Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis say they “support victims” after it was revealed that they had written letters in support of leniency in Danny Masterson’s sentencing. New claims about Joe Jonas nude photo requests are also coming to the surface. 191The only person that has a faint chance of reconciliation with Prince William and Harry is Kate.
Rob is joined by his dear pal Garrett Vogel from Elvis Duran and the Morning Show with all the scoop. Don't forget to vote in today's poll on Twitter at @naughtynicerob or in our Facebook group.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Shooters. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show.
It's Monday. It's Monday, which means joining us today is
our long lost friend. We've not spoken in two weeks.
It's been a vacation for our mates. But he is back.
The one, the only Garrett Vogel.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
The Summer of Garrett is officially over Robshooter. I am
back in action. I'm all yours until you kick me
out of here. I thought you were going to change
the locks and the password on the zoom room, but no,
here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
How are you you're going nowhere? Hey, I'm glad you
had a hot girl summer. I'm glad you had a
hot boys summer. You were out there dancing and singing
seeing shows.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh yeah, And I have a question, is is things
okay in the home front? Because I saw that Bruce
looks like he picked up another job.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
He was furious working. Are you thank you for asking Bruce.
My husband is a songwriter, a playwriter. He has a
show coming to Broadway called Harmony, and it's a lot
of work. They started rehearsals last week. They opened the
box office. I shoved him in the box office window
with his collaborator Barry Mandelo. They sold tickets and then
(01:21):
they started rehearsals. It was wild. They had like a
line around the box office. People don't go to box
offices anymore. They buy them on ticket Masters, So we
wanted to recreate this like old school feel. And so
the two of them were in the box office. I
think they signed like the first hundred tickets, maybe more.
They didn't leave until the line was done, which was
an awfully kind thing for them to do. But it
(01:42):
was really exciting. And then on Saturday, I was lucky
enough to sneak into rehearsals. So everything isn't just okay, Garrett,
It's flipping fabulous at the moment.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Let me tell you a little little hint about buying
tickets at the box office. If you come to New
York or go to any Broadway show, you save. I
love the extra charger, all those charges, you know, the
the forty five dollars tissue fee, you know like that
you get online, Like the sixty five processing fee to print.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
A digital ticket.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
My mom has. Every time we get Broadway tickets from
my mother and she goes to the box office, she
drives into the city, she buys just say she probably
she probably loses the money on the calls and she
breaks even at the end of the day. But but
still it's the it's the idea of that.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's a good tip. Go to the box office. You
don't have to pay those fees. Okay, let's jump into
a show. What time is it? My friend's tea time? Okay,
this is a serious story. At the top of the show,
so me, Lacunas and Astro and Kutcher are now saying
they support victims following the backlash over their letters supporting
(02:49):
Danny Masterson. Let me explain. So Ashton and Mila, they
wrote several letters asking for leniency in the Danny Masterson sentencing. Now,
let me remind you what that is. Masterson was sentenced
to thirty years in prison after being convicted for two
(03:11):
counts of rape. They starred alongside him in the seventies show.
So they sent letters to the judge, to the court
asking them to be lenient in the sentencing. Now those
letters have come out and these two are really in
a firestorm. This is now a convicted rapist that it
(03:32):
looks like they were supporting. They said, quote, we are
aware of the pain that has been caused by the
character letters that we wrote on behalf of Danny. We
support victims. We have done this historically through our work
and will continue to do it in the future. Now
you know things are bad, Garrett when they have to
(03:52):
issue a statement about.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That immediately, not like a week, It was immediately. And
it's interesting because then the stories start coming out too,
of people going, I don't know, though, he might be
a good guy for the past thirty years, but what
about thirty years ago when he was acting this crazy?
And I mean even Lea Remi was chiming in, going, well,
(04:16):
it looks like scientology can't help him out here here.
So I mean, we hear about these underlying stories like
oh the dark Hollywood, but now we're actually, you know,
seeing it in this you know, like did you see
the clip of Conan O'Brien from a few thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, he seemed to know there was a secret, he said,
one day, you'll be caught. Christina Ricci too, She put
out a statement on social media really slamming Ashton and Miela,
saying that sometimes we can love people who do horrible things.
It's very complicated. It opens up this whole discussion, doesn't
it that just because somebody's nice to me does not
(04:52):
mean they're nice to other people, right, And you've got
to really take that into account. If you want to
write a less a reference, a recommendation for a friend,
really think about it. Really think about what your words
are saying and what you want the outcome to be. Here,
Like now, I think it's quite an easy jump to
(05:13):
put the dots together and to argue that Meela and
Ashton believe somebody who committed two rapes should get a
light sentence. Now, that's what their letter is saying. I
know they wouldn't say that personally, and they're pushing back
on that really hard, but it feels a little bit
like they want it both ways.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, that's why they wanted it. And the other interesting
thing too, is do you remember the e true Hollywood
story one wants all around that that seventy show about
the dynamic of the cast on and offset. Everyone thought
that Telfer Grace was just a complete diva able because
he wasn't hanging out with Meela and Ashton and Danny
and Wilmer, and everybody's like, oh, he's secluded from the cast.
(05:53):
Tolf it looks like Taufer is coming out on the
positive side thirty years later because he saw this way
of acting and he's like, not.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
For me, want part of that? Yeah, it's really interesting.
Careful who your friends are, Be careful who you hang
out with. It does say a lot about you. I
don't want to take the emphasis of him here. I
don't want to take it off. This awful this this danny,
this monstrous person. But Miela and Ashton did it to
themselves by sending these letters. Legally, they didn't have to
(06:25):
send them, they wanted to send them. It's very interesting.
I'm trying to think of another example of this, and
I remember when Katie Kuric found out about Matt Lauer
and all the terrible things that Matt had been accused
of doing. Matt did not go to court, though, let's
point that out. Katie said she didn't know this Matt,
the Mat that she knew wouldn't have done this. However,
(06:46):
she totally believed what was being said. She totally supported
the victims, and it changed her friendship fundamentally with this person.
I think Katie handled it maybe a better way than
Ashton and Mela. Well.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I think they're a little bit blinded because again they're like,
you know, we know it's kind of true, but we
also he's our friend, you know, and we're gonna we're
gonna support our friend to the end. And it's it's
just such a It's one of those things that confuses
your mind because Ashton and Mila, you know, you know,
are such big advocates behind stopping sex trafficking, yes, and
(07:26):
and all these things, promoting people that that that are
being affected by by, you know, sex crimes and underade sex.
And then to see them support this, you're like, what
that's what you get. There's no right answer, and there's
no yet Like it's weird.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's weird, isn't it. That's what I'm talking about it
here on the Naughty but Nice Show. We're friends here,
we can we can do this. But it brings us
to our whole question of the day. I want to
know what you think about this. Amela and Ashton say
that they do support victims following the backlash over their
letters supporting Do you think they want it both ways?
Do they want it both ways? That's a tough question. Hey,
(08:05):
go vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob
at Facebook pages naughty gossip and be sure to check
back tomorrow to hear your results. Another tough story, Garrett,
What are you working on? All? Right?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So we all know Joe Jonas, Sophie Turner, the back
and forth up until last week of are they married?
They're not married? Well, they are getting a divorce unfortunately,
And it turns out that all these other stories are
coming out now of like a Nickelodeon alum, Alexa Nicholas
said that Joe Jonas, she was on Zoe one on one,
by the way, with Britney Spears's sister back in the
(08:39):
day that when they were teenagers, Joe Jonas asked for
nudes on Twitter or X I met Joe Jonas when
we were teens. Let's just say he's the guy who
who wore a purity ring but asked for nudes. Here's
my feelings towards that. I get that it could have happened,
but why why now? Why not that up then in
(09:01):
the midst of a divorce. You know, he's not getting
divorced over these these pictures or the claims. It's just
it feels like bad timing on that one. But Joejonas,
even on over the weekend, him and the Brothers were
out in Dodger Stadium and Joejonas kind of addressed all
the rumors that are out there pretty much just said,
if you don't hear it from my mouth, don't believe it,
(09:23):
which you could take it anyway you want, but at
least he kind of addressed it because there are some
crazy rumors coming from both sides of the Sophie Turner
Joe Jonas divorce, of ring cameras and drinking, and so
Jojonas kind of addressing it, which you really don't see really.
Everybody just normally stays quiet and let their quote unquote
friends and closest sis talks with them, right.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Talk to people like me. I sort of agree with
you here. However, Joe didn't tell us anything. Telling us
only to believe what he say is right is something
that I'm not totally buying here. He's not the messiah
like Joe. Just because you don't say it that mean
it's not true. Like Joe didn't really tell us about
the divorce reporting did. Joe didn't tell us about these
nude pictures. The lady in the Nickelodeon show did. So
(10:08):
there's a lot of really good reporting out here. I
think what's going on there when you talk about timing,
is that when they broke up, it felt to a
lot of people, maybe even Alexa, that Joe's team, Let's
not say Joe, let's say his team. His friends were
pushing this narrative that Sophie was a terrible mother. He
(10:28):
even had some paparazzi pictures taken of him and the
kids in La being all perfect together. They looked very
stage to me. And then we hear about a doorbell. Well,
there's not a lot of people who can know about that.
It feels now like her team are saying, if you
want to play this nasty game, we'll fight back. I've
been through this. I went through it with Jessica and
Nick when I was Jessica's publicist. Jessica played rough. Jessica
(10:52):
played rough. I went through it with j Lo and
Ben Affleck. Jennifer doesn't lie down either. So I'm not
saying too much here. But what I am telling you
is that when these divorces happen, you have a choice,
and you have this in your private life. You don't
have to be a celebrity to agree here. Do you
want this to be decent, and do you want this
to be amicable or do you want to play dirty
and your feelings are hurt. You're probably upset, you want
(11:14):
to slap somebody. You want to throw a punch, not
a pinch. And that's a horrible spiral that I think
these both of them are going down.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
If it's any anything amicable, you would think at least
in some form of way. Yes, they put out the
quote unquote joint statement together, but you would think after
you see these stories of you know, Sophie just likes
to party, she does like to be around the kids,
Joe Jonas would at least say, you know what, none
of this, none of this is true. Yes he said,
(11:43):
you could say he kind of addressed it over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
But I would have gone further.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
But then the other interesting thing, and I think you
could tell us a little bit more too, is you
were talking about him being outside having lunch now in
La of all places. And I've learned that if you
want to be caught having doing anything, you.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Eat outside, they can't catch you inside. Yeah. Right, If
I take you out for lunch for dinner, and I
insist that we sit outside and we sit in the window,
there's probably a paparazzi across the street. Now, if we
sit in the back of the restaurant, there's no paps.
So this is all feels very very staged to me.
It makes me, you know, as a gossip columnist, I
love all the drama. I love talking about this, but
as a human being, it just makes me sad. And
(12:25):
that's why all these stories are coming out now, because
people feel like he is attacking her, the mother of
his children, and that's why people are coming out for
their Joe's stories. Okay, let's move along. We've got so
much to get into today's show. Jimmy Fallon has apologized
after accusations of a toxic work environment, and now an
old video of Martin Short rest in him has gone viral.
(12:47):
So Martin Short was talking to Jimmy years ago and
was really sort of having a few digs at Jimmy,
saying that he knows that Jimmy only pretends to be
a nice guy. So he made these jokes a long
time ago, and I must admit they look like jokes
to me. And Martin is known to do this. He's
(13:09):
known to make fun of celebrities, but with Jimmy, He said,
I know, you pretend to be a nice guy, implying
that you're not really a nice guy. And now people
are saying, oh, did Martin Short know? That's the question
that everyone's asking inside NBC. NBC is a small building,
thirty Rock is pretty small and everybody that I know
who is working there, I'm not doubting that Jimmy was naughty.
(13:30):
He's apologized, he's admitted he was not a great guy.
What they're saying now is who knew about this? Did
Savannah and Hoder know? Did Lester Holt know? Who knew
about this?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Here's how I also look at it too, because you've
been I've seen some other viral clips too, where it's
like just a few people you know, and then others
are like Jerry Seinfeld even came out and said how
ridiculous the Rolling Stone story?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
He did? He did, but Jerry did did defriend Kramer
for using a racist term too. So Jerry's not the
best baby barometer here on defending people. He has defended
sort of some some shady things in the past.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Well, yes, and and and I can't argue that part
part of it. But I also see that you know,
I liked how follon quickly. He didn't. He didn't wait.
He didn't wait a month. He didn't let this thing
die out. He goes, you know what, I'll get in
front of it. I am sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
He got, he got.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
He got everybody on zoom like during a whole strike
where you're not getting paid. Everybody got in the Zoom room.
For him to make a public apology.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, no he did. He jumped on it quickly with
his staff, but not the public yet. Should he sit
down on the Today Show? Should he do a statement?
Should he tell us his made mistakes? Ellen did eventually,
but he took her a while to get there. I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I don't think so, because here's the thing. I mean,
I think we know how the show, the show dynamic works, right.
It's not like everybody that works for the show reports
to Jimmy. Jimmy has, you know, kind of like a
a source around him, like a like an outside layer
of producers, executive producers, and then they come to him with, Hey,
here's the idea, here's what we're doing. So they're just
(15:03):
watching Jimmy like Jimmy might come in and we've all
come into work like all and then people judge, you
know what I mean, Like you're not necessarily interacting with Jimmy,
you're seeing him walk down the hallway, and then you're
forming an opinion based off of that.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
By now. But people are not saying that he's not friendly.
People are saying that he was really toxic. And there
is a difference. Like I would guess if you interviewed
everybody that worked with me for me, around me, you know,
maybe twenty percent of them would say he can be bossy,
he can be grumpy. It's all true, but I'm not toxic.
I mean, I know the difference, Like you know the difference.
We've all got jobs. Think of somebody you work with
(15:38):
who's difficult. We've all got them in our office wherever
we work. But there is a lion, and I think
that's what happened with Ellen. I'm scared that that's what's
happened with Jimmy here. And I think apologizing to the
staff is smart. I think he should sit down with
Savannah and Hoder and tell the world that that Jimmy
is no longer and moving forward, this is not the
(15:58):
way it's going to.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Be, you know, And I think that's the that's the conversation.
The whole world is having just about everything in life,
you know, Like there's a bunch of people where you know,
just in life, everybody's not going to be happy, right,
you know what I mean? And everybody wants the best,
you know, And there's some people and I think we
all work with them too where it's like I deserve this.
(16:20):
We're in a world right now where you can turn
to Rolling Stone and Rolling Stone goes. Let me get
my pen and paper.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
In defensive roaming Stone though. And I do know people
that work there. They are a real news outlet. Like
you can't just call them up and say, Jimmy was
rude to me at Starbucks. Like you can't just call
up and say, oh, as a waiter and Jimmy was rude.
They're fourteen staffers. We've got to take a quick break
and we will be right back. Welcome back to the
Naughty but Night Show. I'm up to shooting. It's a
different Garrett vocal. Hey, Garrett, let's get to the polls.
(16:51):
So tonight show staffers claimed that Jimmy Fallon is a
erratic and often seemed drunk in a toxic workplace. I
question Mark, should they replace him with Tina Faye. What
do you think about that? Is it time to have
a female in late night on the network? I know
we have Samantha b Or we did. I don't think
her shares around anymore. And Chelsea Handler we had her
(17:11):
on cable. Is it time to have Tina Fay? Let's
have a look. Eighty two percent said yes, it is
time to switch Jimmy out and get Tina in. Don't
forget to vote on today's poll. Go to our Twitter
page at not too nice rob at Facebook page is
not what he got him? I'm is sure to check
back tomorrow to hear your results. Now it's time for
our nicest of the day.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
All right, here we go. Well, let's talk about Marilyn
Monroe too. I mean I've only seen pictures. I wish
I kind of was around when she was there, just
to see the impact she had on the world, from
from dating to movies being captured every sec. I feel
like that's what kind of like a Kim Kardashian is
(17:56):
right now? You know what I mean? Marilyn or and role.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
See what you saying? No, it's excitement, it's that star power.
We don't have movie stars anymore do we We don't
have Maybe Julia Roberts is the last one, or George Clooney,
maybe Brad Pitt. But she's a movie star.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So her Brentwood home out in LA was granted a
temporary reprieve from demolition. Uh, you know you got you
gotta love real estate moguls out in count nell A.
You know what, Let's let's take Marilyn Monroe's home, the
history behind it and just knock it down. Knock it down,
put up a two family you know, like.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Why they're gonna knock down Marilyn Monroe's house?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
What like you you would like but but you know what,
if you go on the Hollywood Tours, Rob, that would
no matter. If there's a brand new house there that
was Marilyn N there.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'm glad it's been saved. I'm a big fan of history.
If we're going to save a celebrity's house, let's do
Marilyn Monroe's and nicest of the day now and not
is the day naughteen? Naughty naughty, Yes, the only person
who could actually manage to facilitate peace between William and
Harry I know that person. I guess you have a
guess you. Oh my god, No, I'd cost more trouble.
I'd cause more trouble, and I'd make them do peace
(19:09):
on this show so we could listen to it. They're
saying it's Kate. So Kate is a peacemaker. She was
spotted in twenty twenty one after the Oprah interview trying
to make the brother speak again. Now, Diana's former butler,
Paul Borella, who I know, is saying Kate is the
only one. There was a time when these three were
so close. He called her, Harry called her his sister. Now,
(19:34):
maybe Kate can fix this. There's a lot of pressure
there on one person. Let's end with a moment of
rob rob. Almost everything will work again if you unplug
it for a few minutes, including you. I love this
quote because it just reminds you that it's okay to unplug,
it's okay to reset. It's OK's head. Smack it in
(19:57):
the head, pull the plug out let, rest for a minute.
If you feel like your brain is going to explode,
if there's too much going on, too much to process,
turn off the computer, go and have a cup of tea.
I'm a huge fan in this I've really learned the
power of being still and just for a couple of
minutes doing nothing. Hey, that is it for today. Thank
(20:21):
you so much for listening to the Naughty Bit Nice
with Rob and Garrett Show. Welcome back, Garrett. Thank the
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me hear you singing along. If you're going to be nice,
(20:43):
it's not even nice with Rah
Shooters. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show.
It's Monday. It's Monday, which means joining us today is
our long lost friend. We've not spoken in two weeks.
It's been a vacation for our mates. But he is back.
The one, the only Garrett Vogel.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
The Summer of Garrett is officially over Robshooter. I am
back in action. I'm all yours until you kick me
out of here. I thought you were going to change
the locks and the password on the zoom room, but no,
here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
How are you you're going nowhere? Hey, I'm glad you
had a hot girl summer. I'm glad you had a
hot boys summer. You were out there dancing and singing
seeing shows.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh yeah, And I have a question, is is things
okay in the home front? Because I saw that Bruce
looks like he picked up another job.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
He was furious working. Are you thank you for asking Bruce.
My husband is a songwriter, a playwriter. He has a
show coming to Broadway called Harmony, and it's a lot
of work. They started rehearsals last week. They opened the
box office. I shoved him in the box office window
with his collaborator Barry Mandelo. They sold tickets and then
(01:21):
they started rehearsals. It was wild. They had like a
line around the box office. People don't go to box
offices anymore. They buy them on ticket Masters, So we
wanted to recreate this like old school feel. And so
the two of them were in the box office. I
think they signed like the first hundred tickets, maybe more.
They didn't leave until the line was done, which was
an awfully kind thing for them to do. But it
(01:42):
was really exciting. And then on Saturday, I was lucky
enough to sneak into rehearsals. So everything isn't just okay, Garrett,
It's flipping fabulous at the moment.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Let me tell you a little little hint about buying
tickets at the box office. If you come to New
York or go to any Broadway show, you save. I
love the extra charger, all those charges, you know, the
the forty five dollars tissue fee, you know like that
you get online, Like the sixty five processing fee to print.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
A digital ticket.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
My mom has. Every time we get Broadway tickets from
my mother and she goes to the box office, she
drives into the city, she buys just say she probably
she probably loses the money on the calls and she
breaks even at the end of the day. But but
still it's the it's the idea of that.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's a good tip. Go to the box office. You
don't have to pay those fees. Okay, let's jump into
a show. What time is it? My friend's tea time? Okay,
this is a serious story. At the top of the show,
so me, Lacunas and Astro and Kutcher are now saying
they support victims following the backlash over their letters supporting
(02:49):
Danny Masterson. Let me explain. So Ashton and Mila, they
wrote several letters asking for leniency in the Danny Masterson sentencing. Now,
let me remind you what that is. Masterson was sentenced
to thirty years in prison after being convicted for two
(03:11):
counts of rape. They starred alongside him in the seventies show.
So they sent letters to the judge, to the court
asking them to be lenient in the sentencing. Now those
letters have come out and these two are really in
a firestorm. This is now a convicted rapist that it
(03:32):
looks like they were supporting. They said, quote, we are
aware of the pain that has been caused by the
character letters that we wrote on behalf of Danny. We
support victims. We have done this historically through our work
and will continue to do it in the future. Now
you know things are bad, Garrett when they have to
(03:52):
issue a statement about.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That immediately, not like a week, It was immediately. And
it's interesting because then the stories start coming out too,
of people going, I don't know, though, he might be
a good guy for the past thirty years, but what
about thirty years ago when he was acting this crazy?
And I mean even Lea Remi was chiming in, going, well,
(04:16):
it looks like scientology can't help him out here here.
So I mean, we hear about these underlying stories like
oh the dark Hollywood, but now we're actually, you know,
seeing it in this you know, like did you see
the clip of Conan O'Brien from a few thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, he seemed to know there was a secret, he said,
one day, you'll be caught. Christina Ricci too, She put
out a statement on social media really slamming Ashton and Miela,
saying that sometimes we can love people who do horrible things.
It's very complicated. It opens up this whole discussion, doesn't
it that just because somebody's nice to me does not
(04:52):
mean they're nice to other people, right, And you've got
to really take that into account. If you want to
write a less a reference, a recommendation for a friend,
really think about it. Really think about what your words
are saying and what you want the outcome to be. Here,
Like now, I think it's quite an easy jump to
(05:13):
put the dots together and to argue that Meela and
Ashton believe somebody who committed two rapes should get a
light sentence. Now, that's what their letter is saying. I
know they wouldn't say that personally, and they're pushing back
on that really hard, but it feels a little bit
like they want it both ways.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, that's why they wanted it. And the other interesting
thing too, is do you remember the e true Hollywood
story one wants all around that that seventy show about
the dynamic of the cast on and offset. Everyone thought
that Telfer Grace was just a complete diva able because
he wasn't hanging out with Meela and Ashton and Danny
and Wilmer, and everybody's like, oh, he's secluded from the cast.
(05:53):
Tolf it looks like Taufer is coming out on the
positive side thirty years later because he saw this way
of acting and he's like, not.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
For me, want part of that? Yeah, it's really interesting.
Careful who your friends are, Be careful who you hang
out with. It does say a lot about you. I
don't want to take the emphasis of him here. I
don't want to take it off. This awful this this danny,
this monstrous person. But Miela and Ashton did it to
themselves by sending these letters. Legally, they didn't have to
(06:25):
send them, they wanted to send them. It's very interesting.
I'm trying to think of another example of this, and
I remember when Katie Kuric found out about Matt Lauer
and all the terrible things that Matt had been accused
of doing. Matt did not go to court, though, let's
point that out. Katie said she didn't know this Matt,
the Mat that she knew wouldn't have done this. However,
(06:46):
she totally believed what was being said. She totally supported
the victims, and it changed her friendship fundamentally with this person.
I think Katie handled it maybe a better way than
Ashton and Mela. Well.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I think they're a little bit blinded because again they're like,
you know, we know it's kind of true, but we
also he's our friend, you know, and we're gonna we're
gonna support our friend to the end. And it's it's
just such a It's one of those things that confuses
your mind because Ashton and Mila, you know, you know,
are such big advocates behind stopping sex trafficking, yes, and
(07:26):
and all these things, promoting people that that that are
being affected by by, you know, sex crimes and underade sex.
And then to see them support this, you're like, what
that's what you get. There's no right answer, and there's
no yet Like it's weird.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's weird, isn't it. That's what I'm talking about it
here on the Naughty but Nice Show. We're friends here,
we can we can do this. But it brings us
to our whole question of the day. I want to
know what you think about this. Amela and Ashton say
that they do support victims following the backlash over their
letters supporting Do you think they want it both ways?
Do they want it both ways? That's a tough question. Hey,
(08:05):
go vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob
at Facebook pages naughty gossip and be sure to check
back tomorrow to hear your results. Another tough story, Garrett,
What are you working on? All? Right?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So we all know Joe Jonas, Sophie Turner, the back
and forth up until last week of are they married?
They're not married? Well, they are getting a divorce unfortunately,
And it turns out that all these other stories are
coming out now of like a Nickelodeon alum, Alexa Nicholas
said that Joe Jonas, she was on Zoe one on one,
by the way, with Britney Spears's sister back in the
(08:39):
day that when they were teenagers, Joe Jonas asked for
nudes on Twitter or X I met Joe Jonas when
we were teens. Let's just say he's the guy who
who wore a purity ring but asked for nudes. Here's
my feelings towards that. I get that it could have happened,
but why why now? Why not that up then in
(09:01):
the midst of a divorce. You know, he's not getting
divorced over these these pictures or the claims. It's just
it feels like bad timing on that one. But Joejonas,
even on over the weekend, him and the Brothers were
out in Dodger Stadium and Joejonas kind of addressed all
the rumors that are out there pretty much just said,
if you don't hear it from my mouth, don't believe it,
(09:23):
which you could take it anyway you want, but at
least he kind of addressed it because there are some
crazy rumors coming from both sides of the Sophie Turner
Joe Jonas divorce, of ring cameras and drinking, and so
Jojonas kind of addressing it, which you really don't see really.
Everybody just normally stays quiet and let their quote unquote
friends and closest sis talks with them, right.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Talk to people like me. I sort of agree with
you here. However, Joe didn't tell us anything. Telling us
only to believe what he say is right is something
that I'm not totally buying here. He's not the messiah
like Joe. Just because you don't say it that mean
it's not true. Like Joe didn't really tell us about
the divorce reporting did. Joe didn't tell us about these
nude pictures. The lady in the Nickelodeon show did. So
(10:08):
there's a lot of really good reporting out here. I
think what's going on there when you talk about timing,
is that when they broke up, it felt to a
lot of people, maybe even Alexa, that Joe's team, Let's
not say Joe, let's say his team. His friends were
pushing this narrative that Sophie was a terrible mother. He
(10:28):
even had some paparazzi pictures taken of him and the
kids in La being all perfect together. They looked very
stage to me. And then we hear about a doorbell. Well,
there's not a lot of people who can know about that.
It feels now like her team are saying, if you
want to play this nasty game, we'll fight back. I've
been through this. I went through it with Jessica and
Nick when I was Jessica's publicist. Jessica played rough. Jessica
(10:52):
played rough. I went through it with j Lo and
Ben Affleck. Jennifer doesn't lie down either. So I'm not
saying too much here. But what I am telling you
is that when these divorces happen, you have a choice,
and you have this in your private life. You don't
have to be a celebrity to agree here. Do you
want this to be decent, and do you want this
to be amicable or do you want to play dirty
and your feelings are hurt. You're probably upset, you want
(11:14):
to slap somebody. You want to throw a punch, not
a pinch. And that's a horrible spiral that I think
these both of them are going down.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
If it's any anything amicable, you would think at least
in some form of way. Yes, they put out the
quote unquote joint statement together, but you would think after
you see these stories of you know, Sophie just likes
to party, she does like to be around the kids,
Joe Jonas would at least say, you know what, none
of this, none of this is true. Yes he said,
(11:43):
you could say he kind of addressed it over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
But I would have gone further.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
But then the other interesting thing, and I think you
could tell us a little bit more too, is you
were talking about him being outside having lunch now in
La of all places. And I've learned that if you
want to be caught having doing anything, you.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Eat outside, they can't catch you inside. Yeah. Right, If
I take you out for lunch for dinner, and I
insist that we sit outside and we sit in the window,
there's probably a paparazzi across the street. Now, if we
sit in the back of the restaurant, there's no paps.
So this is all feels very very staged to me.
It makes me, you know, as a gossip columnist, I
love all the drama. I love talking about this, but
as a human being, it just makes me sad. And
(12:25):
that's why all these stories are coming out now, because
people feel like he is attacking her, the mother of
his children, and that's why people are coming out for
their Joe's stories. Okay, let's move along. We've got so
much to get into today's show. Jimmy Fallon has apologized
after accusations of a toxic work environment, and now an
old video of Martin Short rest in him has gone viral.
(12:47):
So Martin Short was talking to Jimmy years ago and
was really sort of having a few digs at Jimmy,
saying that he knows that Jimmy only pretends to be
a nice guy. So he made these jokes a long
time ago, and I must admit they look like jokes
to me. And Martin is known to do this. He's
(13:09):
known to make fun of celebrities, but with Jimmy, He said,
I know, you pretend to be a nice guy, implying
that you're not really a nice guy. And now people
are saying, oh, did Martin Short know? That's the question
that everyone's asking inside NBC. NBC is a small building,
thirty Rock is pretty small and everybody that I know
who is working there, I'm not doubting that Jimmy was naughty.
(13:30):
He's apologized, he's admitted he was not a great guy.
What they're saying now is who knew about this? Did
Savannah and Hoder know? Did Lester Holt know? Who knew
about this?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Here's how I also look at it too, because you've
been I've seen some other viral clips too, where it's
like just a few people you know, and then others
are like Jerry Seinfeld even came out and said how
ridiculous the Rolling Stone story?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
He did? He did, but Jerry did did defriend Kramer
for using a racist term too. So Jerry's not the
best baby barometer here on defending people. He has defended
sort of some some shady things in the past.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Well, yes, and and and I can't argue that part
part of it. But I also see that you know,
I liked how follon quickly. He didn't. He didn't wait.
He didn't wait a month. He didn't let this thing
die out. He goes, you know what, I'll get in
front of it. I am sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
He got, he got.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
He got everybody on zoom like during a whole strike
where you're not getting paid. Everybody got in the Zoom room.
For him to make a public apology.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, no he did. He jumped on it quickly with
his staff, but not the public yet. Should he sit
down on the Today Show? Should he do a statement?
Should he tell us his made mistakes? Ellen did eventually,
but he took her a while to get there. I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I don't think so, because here's the thing. I mean,
I think we know how the show, the show dynamic works, right.
It's not like everybody that works for the show reports
to Jimmy. Jimmy has, you know, kind of like a
a source around him, like a like an outside layer
of producers, executive producers, and then they come to him with, Hey,
here's the idea, here's what we're doing. So they're just
(15:03):
watching Jimmy like Jimmy might come in and we've all
come into work like all and then people judge, you
know what I mean, Like you're not necessarily interacting with Jimmy,
you're seeing him walk down the hallway, and then you're
forming an opinion based off of that.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
By now. But people are not saying that he's not friendly.
People are saying that he was really toxic. And there
is a difference. Like I would guess if you interviewed
everybody that worked with me for me, around me, you know,
maybe twenty percent of them would say he can be bossy,
he can be grumpy. It's all true, but I'm not toxic.
I mean, I know the difference, Like you know the difference.
We've all got jobs. Think of somebody you work with
(15:38):
who's difficult. We've all got them in our office wherever
we work. But there is a lion, and I think
that's what happened with Ellen. I'm scared that that's what's
happened with Jimmy here. And I think apologizing to the
staff is smart. I think he should sit down with
Savannah and Hoder and tell the world that that Jimmy
is no longer and moving forward, this is not the
(15:58):
way it's going to.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Be, you know, And I think that's the that's the conversation.
The whole world is having just about everything in life,
you know, Like there's a bunch of people where you know,
just in life, everybody's not going to be happy, right,
you know what I mean? And everybody wants the best,
you know, And there's some people and I think we
all work with them too where it's like I deserve this.
(16:20):
We're in a world right now where you can turn
to Rolling Stone and Rolling Stone goes. Let me get
my pen and paper.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
In defensive roaming Stone though. And I do know people
that work there. They are a real news outlet. Like
you can't just call them up and say, Jimmy was
rude to me at Starbucks. Like you can't just call
up and say, oh, as a waiter and Jimmy was rude.
They're fourteen staffers. We've got to take a quick break
and we will be right back. Welcome back to the
Naughty but Night Show. I'm up to shooting. It's a
different Garrett vocal. Hey, Garrett, let's get to the polls.
(16:51):
So tonight show staffers claimed that Jimmy Fallon is a
erratic and often seemed drunk in a toxic workplace. I
question Mark, should they replace him with Tina Faye. What
do you think about that? Is it time to have
a female in late night on the network? I know
we have Samantha b Or we did. I don't think
her shares around anymore. And Chelsea Handler we had her
(17:11):
on cable. Is it time to have Tina Fay? Let's
have a look. Eighty two percent said yes, it is
time to switch Jimmy out and get Tina in. Don't
forget to vote on today's poll. Go to our Twitter
page at not too nice rob at Facebook page is
not what he got him? I'm is sure to check
back tomorrow to hear your results. Now it's time for
our nicest of the day.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
All right, here we go. Well, let's talk about Marilyn
Monroe too. I mean I've only seen pictures. I wish
I kind of was around when she was there, just
to see the impact she had on the world, from
from dating to movies being captured every sec. I feel
like that's what kind of like a Kim Kardashian is
(17:56):
right now? You know what I mean? Marilyn or and role.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
See what you saying? No, it's excitement, it's that star power.
We don't have movie stars anymore do we We don't
have Maybe Julia Roberts is the last one, or George Clooney,
maybe Brad Pitt. But she's a movie star.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So her Brentwood home out in LA was granted a
temporary reprieve from demolition. Uh, you know you got you
gotta love real estate moguls out in count nell A.
You know what, Let's let's take Marilyn Monroe's home, the
history behind it and just knock it down. Knock it down,
put up a two family you know, like.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Why they're gonna knock down Marilyn Monroe's house?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
What like you you would like but but you know what,
if you go on the Hollywood Tours, Rob, that would
no matter. If there's a brand new house there that
was Marilyn N there.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'm glad it's been saved. I'm a big fan of history.
If we're going to save a celebrity's house, let's do
Marilyn Monroe's and nicest of the day now and not
is the day naughteen? Naughty naughty, Yes, the only person
who could actually manage to facilitate peace between William and
Harry I know that person. I guess you have a
guess you. Oh my god, No, I'd cost more trouble.
I'd cause more trouble, and I'd make them do peace
(19:09):
on this show so we could listen to it. They're
saying it's Kate. So Kate is a peacemaker. She was
spotted in twenty twenty one after the Oprah interview trying
to make the brother speak again. Now, Diana's former butler,
Paul Borella, who I know, is saying Kate is the
only one. There was a time when these three were
so close. He called her, Harry called her his sister. Now,
(19:34):
maybe Kate can fix this. There's a lot of pressure
there on one person. Let's end with a moment of
rob rob. Almost everything will work again if you unplug
it for a few minutes, including you. I love this
quote because it just reminds you that it's okay to unplug,
it's okay to reset. It's OK's head. Smack it in
(19:57):
the head, pull the plug out let, rest for a minute.
If you feel like your brain is going to explode,
if there's too much going on, too much to process,
turn off the computer, go and have a cup of tea.
I'm a huge fan in this I've really learned the
power of being still and just for a couple of
minutes doing nothing. Hey, that is it for today. Thank
(20:21):
you so much for listening to the Naughty Bit Nice
with Rob and Garrett Show. Welcome back, Garrett. Thank the
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(20:43):
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