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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Scalable advice for sure. It's hello, welcome to the Not
Even Nice I'm your host, Rob Shooter, and it is
what is it? It is Wednesday, which means our dear
friend Donny Meacham joins us. Hey, Donnie, are you know hell.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Leve leve leve level. Welcome, Welcome, we missed.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You, We missed your last week. Some weeks, I think
we forget that this is like our side hustle. And
even though it's my favorite of all the jobs I have,
it's not the job that pays the bills. And so
when work calls that pays the bills, we have to
dash and do that. So you were working away. I
hear you were interviewing Harry Styles. That's a good reason
(00:52):
to not be available for the Not Even Nice Show.
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
What was it like, Well, so here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So this is what's so funny, because you know how
like we make fun of each other, give each other
a hard time, always like slappy, slappy, sloppy, but most
of the time, like it's an inside joke on all.
It's like in the Nazis note. Now it's like we
messed with each other. But you know, I have audio
issues sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Do, and so we start the show. Sometimes we have
to start late.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We had to restart over because something about this computer
hates it. Well, imagine you have Harry.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Styles on.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
And all of a sudden, your computer's having audio issues
with Harry with us, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
What, we can wait a little bit. You can't make
Harry Styles wait and go.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
You know what, Sweetie, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
What did you do?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Did you just panicked? Panicked?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Panic?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Because I was like, oh my gosh, o god.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So that it's like, imagine that awkward moment of your making. Granted,
Harry's been out of the limelight from but good for him.
He did what Taylor Sweat is now ever exposed. But
imagine telling the most one of the most famous people
on the planet seeing like, sweetie, do you mind if.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You can you just wait for baby? Can you wait
for me? For him?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I restart my.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Was he a gentleman about it?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So? Yes, Love, I mean this man, we I've said
this before, and I think you would agree to. The
more famous.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You are, the nicer you are.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's the high celebrity people heals celebrity me because they've
got nothing to prove, like they're cool. They're like, I
get it. And the professional about it too, like promoting
whatever he was promoting with you.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
That's part of the job here. They've done this before.
They know what it's like to see this celebrity. The
problem is is they think this interview is going to
be like keeps them in the news. They need to
be in the news, they need to be in the papers,
they need to be on you know, click clicks. And
the famous people are like, if we do we do it,
we don't, we don't.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I love it. I love interviewingnalists people. It's so much
easier that you. Most difficult people are the housewives or
Bravo celebrities are the ones that feel fame and then
they're resentful that you don't treat them like they are
Madonna and I trade everybody well, but I get what
you say. Oh, that's a lovely story to start the
show with Harry Styles. Maybe our nicest of the day.
Let's jump into our show. What time is it? My friends?
(03:24):
It is tea time, big story at the top of
the show. So Harry, Prince Harry, not Harry Styles, Prince Harry,
the other Harry can't be trusted, said a loyal staffer.
So now the royal secrets are certainly being kept away
from Harry, particularly after this bombshell interview with the BBC.
We've spoken about it a lot. He seemed to imply
that the King's cancer battle was worse than what has
(03:46):
been suggested. He did a little bit of shady stuff.
If the truth be told, you can go on TV,
you can talk about whatever you want. It's your life, Harry.
But I think the stuff with his dad and I'm
not sure how much longer my dad's gonna be around.
That's a really loaded thing to say. It's implying he
knows more. I helophones and my sources saying he doesn't
know anything because they don't trust him and they don't
(04:08):
want him involved in their secrets. That horse has left
the barn, so to speak. And a friend of Harry's
told me he knew exactly what he was doing, even
if it was subconscious. It's over, it's finished. He doesn't
worry about it. He's back in California living his fabulous life.
He's happy. And all this stuff about wanting to reconcile,
(04:30):
it's just not true. If you want to reconcile, it
doesn't matter if you're the Royal family or Donnie on
a date. You will. If you want to reconcile, you'll
find a way. If you don't want to reconcile, you're
not going to. I have this issue a lot. We
talk about it, Donnie. I don't mind if it's yes
or no. Just be truthful. Don't give me a yes
(04:53):
if you mean a no. Don't give me a no
a yes. Just tell me what you want and then
we can figure all out. I used to love it
when our old friend Wendy Williams would say on her show,
which I still miss, say it like you mean it.
I say it like I mean it now, Donnie, if
I want to be your friend, I like I want
to be your friend, and if I don't, I don't.
(05:13):
You're quite quite forceful, Donnie. You say what you want.
But I think it's true to say you sugar it.
You put it into a nice way. You're not that
that abrupt.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
No, I mean, I am I can I say I
will for I say what I want or do it,
But I am I sugarcoat things a little too much.
Sometimes I'm a little too diplomatic when it comes to
if there's multiple people involved with the solution here.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But I you know what, I I.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Have such a hard time with this hairy thing because
the problem is this is what people doesn't realize. Harry, though,
doesn't want to look like the bad guy. Yes, because
what happens if King Charles does and then all of
a sudden, everyone's gonna be like, well, you didn't reconcize
it was you. It was you as you And he's
just saying it's not one hundred percent solely on me.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The man won't talk to me, like what am I
supposed to do? Yeah? So this is his truth?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Why so it's so hard because I didn't talk to
my dad forever, and my dad didn't he didn't talk
to me.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I didn't talk to him. But after a while I
forgot he existed a lot of the times.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And so it's like you kind of just move on
because you go this person, Yes it was my dad,
but he stopped caring a long time ago, so at
some point I have to.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Stop caring too. It's it's interesting how life works. It
works the same with friends with lovers, with relatives. If
you don't want me, I don't want you. I do
it first, and I always put up a song and
a dance, and I fight to be in your life.
And I just after the fourth, the fifth, the sixth
time you've insulted me, you've excluded me. I got to
(06:56):
take your lead. They don't want to be in each
other's lives, and you're right, Donny. I'm glad you pointed
that out. It goes both ways. Harry doesn't want them,
they don't want him. It's horribly sad. But the fairy
tale ending that we all want is a lie. They
will never be good. They will never ever sit down
(07:16):
and become a whole, complete, loving family. It's just not
in their DNA. There is way too much water under
the bridge, and that water is therefore a reason, And
so I would stop feeling sorry for either side here.
They've made their decisions. It's terribly sad whenever a family
breaks up. But it's terribly sad. But I think now
(07:36):
we know this is over. Don't even hold hope that
this is going to get fixed. It's not. I told
you here, Rob told you, Donnie told you. It's over.
And so I think the best thing they could both
do is stop talking about one another, which is Harry's
doing more than they are and move on, which brings
us to our whole question of the day. Harry can't
be trusted anymore with the royal secrets? Did he blow
(08:00):
his last chance, his last shot at peace? Hey? Go
vote on our Twitter paget not nice raw by Facebook pages?
Naughty yoursip. I'm sure to check back to my rabit
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working on?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Also goes to show the old Queenie she was the
one really holds.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
She was the last one that power.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah fell ooh anywh Amy Lou would Love's breaking her
silence on the Walton Guggins drummer while she was at
the Mechlla saying it all got very out of control,
so we all have some white lotus.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It was where SNL made the sketch making.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Fun of her basically, and we talked about it here
on the show, and it was it was a low blow.
It was making fun of her teeth and her appearance.
And well Amy's co star Walton.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Liked oh the post about it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Which is a little It's like if somebody was to
make fun of Rob and then I was to go
on and like it you're it was, well, I might
have posted it to begin with, but you know, saying like.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Do you see the optics there?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Doesn't look good good, And so of course it's like
whenever these housewives, one says something about another housewife and
then like there's Teresa going like like like boop. But
they do that because they're shaded. But this is the thing.
So it all got blown out of proportion. And so
while Amy was on the red carpet, she was like, look,
(09:34):
I loved working with Walton.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It was the best thing ever.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
She goes, everything just got out of control because the
thing is this rumors start getting started h about there's
drama behind the set. They didn't like each other. Well,
now Goggins is actually going to be hosting SSNYES.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Saturday coming up, Yes, Saturday.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
People are wondering will Amy make.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
It appe she will be there. I reported exclusively a
couple of days ago will be that she's in talks
with them. So I reported like three days ago they're
in talks. She's staying in New York. I know her schedule.
She doesn't leave New York until I think Sunday your Monday,
which is an unusual choice. Normally they come in and
out for the met Most of the celebrities have left already.
She's staying. This would be brilliant because it would be
(10:19):
really sort of what is it called two birds with
one stone. She would be able to confront her friendship
with him, and also the joke on SNL. This was
the place where that joke was made. I think this
would be a brilliant, brilliant thing to do, a brilliant
pr move. I'm not sure these two will ever be friends.
Our sources say they did not get along. They worked
together well enough, but he's a method actor and so
(10:40):
the whole six months he was in Thailand, he didn't
break character. Well. Unfortunately, the character he was playing was
a bit moody, and so he wasn't that much fun
to be around. But I don't think you have to
be best friends with people you're working with. I think
in show business we all think, gosh, they've got to
be best friends. Look at the person sitting next to
you in the office. You might like him, you might not.
(11:00):
You don't have to be best friends. The same is
true of people making movies. Okay, moving along. Michelle Obama
has confirmed that she's back in therapy. I told you
this story again. Gosh, I'm doing well today. So a
couple of days ago we reported on my substack that
Michelle was back in therapy. She said, she's in a
new phase of her life, and she's in therapy right
now because of the transition. Really smart, she said, she's
(11:22):
working through old guilds and habits, bad habits that she
wants to get riddle in order to enjoy this new
phase of her life. I can't imagine what it must
be like to have been the first lady or the
president of the United States and then you're still very young.
You've still got a lot of living in front of you.
A lot of the older presidents, by the time they
(11:42):
had retired, it was sort of getting towards the twilight,
the end. But I don't think that's the case now
because we have younger, younger presidents. Maybe the current one
exception of that rule, but Barack Obama is still I think,
in the sixties, and she's in her sixties too, she's
sixty one, so they've got a lot of living, So
why not live the best way you could? She also said,
(12:03):
and I love this. She pushed back on the rumors
that she's getting a divorce. I've told her they are
not getting a divorce. Like every marriage, they have their
ups and downs. And she said, if I was having
problems with my husband, everybody would know about it. I
would be problem solving in public. I think that's really
really fun. Michelle says it like she means it. These two,
(12:24):
you know, they're gonna have ups and downs, their lives
have transitions. I think it's something to be proud of
to be back in therapy, not to be ashamed of.
What do you think, Tony, Yes, I mean, look, this.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Is the thing we knew anything about Michelle Obama. She
did not hold back. She Michelle is not She was
not Hillary Clinton first a lady. She's not you know
where is Milania first lady? Michelle had no problems being like,
Barak is annoying me today and you know what, he
texted me three times and I was busy and I
(12:56):
told him to relax. So she's always been like that. I,
on the other hand, have a bit of a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Maybe he could be wishful thinking.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I think Michelle Obama is finally going to run for
president in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I think she's read to herself.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
She didn't, isn't she all these podcasts, all these appearances,
Maybe I don't know. She has said though, that politics
is not for her. But we shall lait and see,
okay quickly before we get a break down. A Barry Diller,
who is a mogul. You might not know him. He's
eighty three years old, has been in the business world forever.
He owns The Daily Beast, he owns Newsweek. He's search
(13:37):
an inspirational sort of kind of character in New York. Well,
he's married to Diane von Furstenberg, the fashion designer. But
at eighty three he's just come out as gay. What's
he have to say?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
He says that Diane Furstenberg was his one true love.
He said there has been many men in his life,
but there's only been on woman, and that was Diane Furstenburg.
My question, though, is how did Donny Diller sound dn fabulous?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Fabulous?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It's a fact I like that people are live in
their truths. I get an older generation sometimes it's very
very difficult, and I do think too, there's something really
beautiful about this. We saw it on Will and Grace.
Gay men love women. It's a real myth out there
that gay men don't like women. The actions one's opposite.
All my friends and Donnie are women, except I love
(14:32):
being around women, and so like, I can totally understand
having a love like that, not a sexual love, but
a really deep, profound love with somebody that you're not
attracted to physically. And so I think this is just
so beautiful. It's you know, it's your world. Everybody, live
your life, decide the life for you. What I think
we should point out there, And I think this is
a really important part. Diane knew, She's known for decades,
(14:57):
she knew when she first met him. This isn't sneak
behind her back. I'm told she's even met some of
his boyfriends. Like she knows. She's comfortable with this. He
is comfortable with this, So why the hell do we
any of us have a problem with this. Good for them,
they're not hurting anybody. Okay, we're going to take a
quick break and we will be right back. Welcome back
(15:19):
to the naughty, but nic shabby Hestor, I'm sure to
her dear friend, Donnie Meetcham. Hey, Donnie, let's get to
the polls that da Let's show he talks about chicky.
Prince Louis my favorite never seems to get told off
by the royal family. Is this a mistake? So if
you've got a young child who disbehaves adorable when they're
six and seven, eight, what happens when they're eighteen? Is
it a mistake? Seventy percent said no, it is not
(15:42):
a mistake. He is adorable. I agree. Don't forget to
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And now it's time for annisest of the day.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So Megan Marcos celebrated Archie's.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Sixth birthday, six adorn years. Oh yes, she went on
Instagram because you know that's what you know, that's what
you do when they celebrate their kids these days, it's
very different. We were growing up ours just as they
woke up in the morning. Have birthday son. Now you
just go on Instagram, she goes our son, our son
(16:30):
s O, n our son s you because the pictures
in front of a sunset sunset of Archie happy sixth
six years.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh, it just flies by. Could we forget at the
end of the day. Megan and Harry have a lot
going on.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You can say what you want about them, but they
are parents and she's a mom, he's a dad.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh, it's beautiful, it's beautiful. The pictures lovely. It's on
my sub stack if you want to check that, rob
shoot around substack and nicely the day and now I
noticed the day naughty, naughty. Just then Babe skipped them.
I met Garla with his wife, Hayley, so he could
watch a hockey game. So what is her telling me
that this marriage is not in a great place. She
really wanted to go to the met ball. She begged
(17:11):
him to go with her. He said no, he wanted
to stay home and watch hockey. This is what the
problem is, Insiders are saying. They're now living progressively more
isolated lives. He does what she wants, She does what
she wants. And if there's nothing where you meet in
the middle, relationships end, They fade away. You go in
(17:33):
different directions. You know, make an effort. If she really
wanted to do this and wanted you there, You've got
the money to fly into New York on a private
plane and stay in a great hotel and get a
great designer suit. I would have done it. She loves fashion.
She looked like she was having a good night. I
know some people spotted her at the event and said
she she actually looked a little lost. I think she
(17:55):
wanted just in there with her, but alas he was
too busy watching the hockey. This is not a good sign, Donny,
not a good sign at all.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
The that thing is is, though, is they know if
he would have went, she would have not been able
to have fun, because every question would have been like.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What's wrong with what's going on with Beaber? What's going
on Beaver?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And she's just like, at what point is she allowed
to have fun herself, live her own life. The sad
thing is is during all of this, we've all seen
what's going on, all these pictures of him, he's obviously
having a mental moment right now, the moment we always
forget they just had a child.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Awful, awful, so sad. It's also heartbreaking. I do think
though she is allowed to enjoy her life. I'm told
she is that she's getting kind of used to being
a single person. Just to be careful, because if you.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Don't show up, it's hard to go back.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
People move on. Okay, let's end with a moment of
Rob you Rob. Consistency is the secret, no matter what,
no results, keep going, bad results, keep going, great results,
keep going. The secret is not perfection. It's not instant success.
It's showing up again and again, no matter what the
(19:08):
school board say is progress is built in the repetition
and real success it comes to the ones who can't stop.
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Scalable advice for sure. It's hello, welcome to the Not
Even Nice I'm your host, Rob Shooter, and it is
what is it? It is Wednesday, which means our dear
friend Donny Meacham joins us. Hey, Donnie, are you know hell.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Leve leve leve level. Welcome, Welcome, we missed.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You, We missed your last week. Some weeks, I think
we forget that this is like our side hustle. And
even though it's my favorite of all the jobs I have,
it's not the job that pays the bills. And so
when work calls that pays the bills, we have to
dash and do that. So you were working away. I
hear you were interviewing Harry Styles. That's a good reason
(00:52):
to not be available for the Not Even Nice Show.
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
What was it like, Well, so here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So this is what's so funny, because you know how
like we make fun of each other, give each other
a hard time, always like slappy, slappy, sloppy, but most
of the time, like it's an inside joke on all.
It's like in the Nazis note. Now it's like we
messed with each other. But you know, I have audio
issues sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Do, and so we start the show. Sometimes we have
to start late.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We had to restart over because something about this computer
hates it. Well, imagine you have Harry.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Styles on.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
And all of a sudden, your computer's having audio issues
with Harry with us, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
What, we can wait a little bit. You can't make
Harry Styles wait and go.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
You know what, Sweetie, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
What did you do?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Did you just panicked? Panicked?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Panic?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Because I was like, oh my gosh, o god.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So that it's like, imagine that awkward moment of your making. Granted,
Harry's been out of the limelight from but good for him.
He did what Taylor Sweat is now ever exposed. But
imagine telling the most one of the most famous people
on the planet seeing like, sweetie, do you mind if.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You can you just wait for baby? Can you wait
for me? For him?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I restart my.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Was he a gentleman about it?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So? Yes, Love, I mean this man, we I've said
this before, and I think you would agree to. The
more famous.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You are, the nicer you are.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's the high celebrity people heals celebrity me because they've
got nothing to prove, like they're cool. They're like, I
get it. And the professional about it too, like promoting
whatever he was promoting with you.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
That's part of the job here. They've done this before.
They know what it's like to see this celebrity. The
problem is is they think this interview is going to
be like keeps them in the news. They need to
be in the news, they need to be in the papers,
they need to be on you know, click clicks. And
the famous people are like, if we do we do it,
we don't, we don't.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I love it. I love interviewingnalists people. It's so much
easier that you. Most difficult people are the housewives or
Bravo celebrities are the ones that feel fame and then
they're resentful that you don't treat them like they are
Madonna and I trade everybody well, but I get what
you say. Oh, that's a lovely story to start the
show with Harry Styles. Maybe our nicest of the day.
Let's jump into our show. What time is it? My friends?
(03:24):
It is tea time, big story at the top of
the show. So Harry, Prince Harry, not Harry Styles, Prince Harry,
the other Harry can't be trusted, said a loyal staffer.
So now the royal secrets are certainly being kept away
from Harry, particularly after this bombshell interview with the BBC.
We've spoken about it a lot. He seemed to imply
that the King's cancer battle was worse than what has
(03:46):
been suggested. He did a little bit of shady stuff.
If the truth be told, you can go on TV,
you can talk about whatever you want. It's your life, Harry.
But I think the stuff with his dad and I'm
not sure how much longer my dad's gonna be around.
That's a really loaded thing to say. It's implying he
knows more. I helophones and my sources saying he doesn't
know anything because they don't trust him and they don't
(04:08):
want him involved in their secrets. That horse has left
the barn, so to speak. And a friend of Harry's
told me he knew exactly what he was doing, even
if it was subconscious. It's over, it's finished. He doesn't
worry about it. He's back in California living his fabulous life.
He's happy. And all this stuff about wanting to reconcile,
(04:30):
it's just not true. If you want to reconcile, it
doesn't matter if you're the Royal family or Donnie on
a date. You will. If you want to reconcile, you'll
find a way. If you don't want to reconcile, you're
not going to. I have this issue a lot. We
talk about it, Donnie. I don't mind if it's yes
or no. Just be truthful. Don't give me a yes
(04:53):
if you mean a no. Don't give me a no
a yes. Just tell me what you want and then
we can figure all out. I used to love it
when our old friend Wendy Williams would say on her show,
which I still miss, say it like you mean it.
I say it like I mean it now, Donnie, if
I want to be your friend, I like I want
to be your friend, and if I don't, I don't.
(05:13):
You're quite quite forceful, Donnie. You say what you want.
But I think it's true to say you sugar it.
You put it into a nice way. You're not that
that abrupt.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
No, I mean, I am I can I say I
will for I say what I want or do it,
But I am I sugarcoat things a little too much.
Sometimes I'm a little too diplomatic when it comes to
if there's multiple people involved with the solution here.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But I you know what, I I.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Have such a hard time with this hairy thing because
the problem is this is what people doesn't realize. Harry, though,
doesn't want to look like the bad guy. Yes, because
what happens if King Charles does and then all of
a sudden, everyone's gonna be like, well, you didn't reconcize
it was you. It was you as you And he's
just saying it's not one hundred percent solely on me.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The man won't talk to me, like what am I
supposed to do? Yeah? So this is his truth?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Why so it's so hard because I didn't talk to
my dad forever, and my dad didn't he didn't talk
to me.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I didn't talk to him. But after a while I
forgot he existed a lot of the times.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And so it's like you kind of just move on
because you go this person, Yes it was my dad,
but he stopped caring a long time ago, so at
some point I have to.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Stop caring too. It's it's interesting how life works. It
works the same with friends with lovers, with relatives. If
you don't want me, I don't want you. I do
it first, and I always put up a song and
a dance, and I fight to be in your life.
And I just after the fourth, the fifth, the sixth
time you've insulted me, you've excluded me. I got to
(06:56):
take your lead. They don't want to be in each
other's lives, and you're right, Donny. I'm glad you pointed
that out. It goes both ways. Harry doesn't want them,
they don't want him. It's horribly sad. But the fairy
tale ending that we all want is a lie. They
will never be good. They will never ever sit down
(07:16):
and become a whole, complete, loving family. It's just not
in their DNA. There is way too much water under
the bridge, and that water is therefore a reason, And
so I would stop feeling sorry for either side here.
They've made their decisions. It's terribly sad whenever a family
breaks up. But it's terribly sad. But I think now
(07:36):
we know this is over. Don't even hold hope that
this is going to get fixed. It's not. I told
you here, Rob told you, Donnie told you. It's over.
And so I think the best thing they could both
do is stop talking about one another, which is Harry's
doing more than they are and move on, which brings
us to our whole question of the day. Harry can't
be trusted anymore with the royal secrets? Did he blow
(08:00):
his last chance, his last shot at peace? Hey? Go
vote on our Twitter paget not nice raw by Facebook pages?
Naughty yoursip. I'm sure to check back to my rabit
he get your results. Hey, Donny Love, what are you
working on?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Also goes to show the old Queenie she was the
one really holds.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
She was the last one that power.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah fell ooh anywh Amy Lou would Love's breaking her
silence on the Walton Guggins drummer while she was at
the Mechlla saying it all got very out of control,
so we all have some white lotus.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It was where SNL made the sketch making.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Fun of her basically, and we talked about it here
on the show, and it was it was a low blow.
It was making fun of her teeth and her appearance.
And well Amy's co star Walton.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Liked oh the post about it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Which is a little It's like if somebody was to
make fun of Rob and then I was to go
on and like it you're it was, well, I might
have posted it to begin with, but you know, saying like.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Do you see the optics there?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Doesn't look good good, And so of course it's like
whenever these housewives, one says something about another housewife and
then like there's Teresa going like like like boop. But
they do that because they're shaded. But this is the thing.
So it all got blown out of proportion. And so
while Amy was on the red carpet, she was like, look,
(09:34):
I loved working with Walton.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It was the best thing ever.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
She goes, everything just got out of control because the
thing is this rumors start getting started h about there's
drama behind the set. They didn't like each other. Well,
now Goggins is actually going to be hosting SSNYES.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Saturday coming up, Yes, Saturday.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
People are wondering will Amy make.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
It appe she will be there. I reported exclusively a
couple of days ago will be that she's in talks
with them. So I reported like three days ago they're
in talks. She's staying in New York. I know her schedule.
She doesn't leave New York until I think Sunday your Monday,
which is an unusual choice. Normally they come in and
out for the met Most of the celebrities have left already.
She's staying. This would be brilliant because it would be
(10:19):
really sort of what is it called two birds with
one stone. She would be able to confront her friendship
with him, and also the joke on SNL. This was
the place where that joke was made. I think this
would be a brilliant, brilliant thing to do, a brilliant
pr move. I'm not sure these two will ever be friends.
Our sources say they did not get along. They worked
together well enough, but he's a method actor and so
(10:40):
the whole six months he was in Thailand, he didn't
break character. Well. Unfortunately, the character he was playing was
a bit moody, and so he wasn't that much fun
to be around. But I don't think you have to
be best friends with people you're working with. I think
in show business we all think, gosh, they've got to
be best friends. Look at the person sitting next to
you in the office. You might like him, you might not.
(11:00):
You don't have to be best friends. The same is
true of people making movies. Okay, moving along. Michelle Obama
has confirmed that she's back in therapy. I told you
this story again. Gosh, I'm doing well today. So a
couple of days ago we reported on my substack that
Michelle was back in therapy. She said, she's in a
new phase of her life, and she's in therapy right
now because of the transition. Really smart, she said, she's
(11:22):
working through old guilds and habits, bad habits that she
wants to get riddle in order to enjoy this new
phase of her life. I can't imagine what it must
be like to have been the first lady or the
president of the United States and then you're still very young.
You've still got a lot of living in front of you.
A lot of the older presidents, by the time they
(11:42):
had retired, it was sort of getting towards the twilight,
the end. But I don't think that's the case now
because we have younger, younger presidents. Maybe the current one
exception of that rule, but Barack Obama is still I think,
in the sixties, and she's in her sixties too, she's
sixty one, so they've got a lot of living, So
why not live the best way you could? She also said,
(12:03):
and I love this. She pushed back on the rumors
that she's getting a divorce. I've told her they are
not getting a divorce. Like every marriage, they have their
ups and downs. And she said, if I was having
problems with my husband, everybody would know about it. I
would be problem solving in public. I think that's really
really fun. Michelle says it like she means it. These two,
(12:24):
you know, they're gonna have ups and downs, their lives
have transitions. I think it's something to be proud of
to be back in therapy, not to be ashamed of.
What do you think, Tony, Yes, I mean, look, this.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Is the thing we knew anything about Michelle Obama. She
did not hold back. She Michelle is not She was
not Hillary Clinton first a lady. She's not you know
where is Milania first lady? Michelle had no problems being like,
Barak is annoying me today and you know what, he
texted me three times and I was busy and I
(12:56):
told him to relax. So she's always been like that. I,
on the other hand, have a bit of a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Maybe he could be wishful thinking.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I think Michelle Obama is finally going to run for
president in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I think she's read to herself.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
She didn't, isn't she all these podcasts, all these appearances,
Maybe I don't know. She has said though, that politics
is not for her. But we shall lait and see,
okay quickly before we get a break down. A Barry Diller,
who is a mogul. You might not know him. He's
eighty three years old, has been in the business world forever.
He owns The Daily Beast, he owns Newsweek. He's search
(13:37):
an inspirational sort of kind of character in New York. Well,
he's married to Diane von Furstenberg, the fashion designer. But
at eighty three he's just come out as gay. What's
he have to say?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
He says that Diane Furstenberg was his one true love.
He said there has been many men in his life,
but there's only been on woman, and that was Diane Furstenburg.
My question, though, is how did Donny Diller sound dn fabulous?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Fabulous?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It's a fact I like that people are live in
their truths. I get an older generation sometimes it's very
very difficult, and I do think too, there's something really
beautiful about this. We saw it on Will and Grace.
Gay men love women. It's a real myth out there
that gay men don't like women. The actions one's opposite.
All my friends and Donnie are women, except I love
(14:32):
being around women, and so like, I can totally understand
having a love like that, not a sexual love, but
a really deep, profound love with somebody that you're not
attracted to physically. And so I think this is just
so beautiful. It's you know, it's your world. Everybody, live
your life, decide the life for you. What I think
we should point out there, And I think this is
a really important part. Diane knew, She's known for decades,
(14:57):
she knew when she first met him. This isn't sneak
behind her back. I'm told she's even met some of
his boyfriends. Like she knows. She's comfortable with this. He
is comfortable with this, So why the hell do we
any of us have a problem with this. Good for them,
they're not hurting anybody. Okay, we're going to take a
quick break and we will be right back. Welcome back
(15:19):
to the naughty, but nic shabby Hestor, I'm sure to
her dear friend, Donnie Meetcham. Hey, Donnie, let's get to
the polls that da Let's show he talks about chicky.
Prince Louis my favorite never seems to get told off
by the royal family. Is this a mistake? So if
you've got a young child who disbehaves adorable when they're
six and seven, eight, what happens when they're eighteen? Is
it a mistake? Seventy percent said no, it is not
(15:42):
a mistake. He is adorable. I agree. Don't forget to
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be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results.
And now it's time for annisest of the day.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So Megan Marcos celebrated Archie's.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Sixth birthday, six adorn years. Oh yes, she went on
Instagram because you know that's what you know, that's what
you do when they celebrate their kids these days, it's
very different. We were growing up ours just as they
woke up in the morning. Have birthday son. Now you
just go on Instagram, she goes our son, our son
(16:30):
s O, n our son s you because the pictures
in front of a sunset sunset of Archie happy sixth
six years.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh, it just flies by. Could we forget at the
end of the day. Megan and Harry have a lot
going on.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You can say what you want about them, but they
are parents and she's a mom, he's a dad.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh, it's beautiful, it's beautiful. The pictures lovely. It's on
my sub stack if you want to check that, rob
shoot around substack and nicely the day and now I
noticed the day naughty, naughty. Just then Babe skipped them.
I met Garla with his wife, Hayley, so he could
watch a hockey game. So what is her telling me
that this marriage is not in a great place. She
really wanted to go to the met ball. She begged
(17:11):
him to go with her. He said no, he wanted
to stay home and watch hockey. This is what the
problem is, Insiders are saying. They're now living progressively more
isolated lives. He does what she wants, She does what
she wants. And if there's nothing where you meet in
the middle, relationships end, They fade away. You go in
(17:33):
different directions. You know, make an effort. If she really
wanted to do this and wanted you there, You've got
the money to fly into New York on a private
plane and stay in a great hotel and get a
great designer suit. I would have done it. She loves fashion.
She looked like she was having a good night. I
know some people spotted her at the event and said
she she actually looked a little lost. I think she
(17:55):
wanted just in there with her, but alas he was
too busy watching the hockey. This is not a good sign, Donny,
not a good sign at all.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
The that thing is is, though, is they know if
he would have went, she would have not been able
to have fun, because every question would have been like.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What's wrong with what's going on with Beaber? What's going
on Beaver?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And she's just like, at what point is she allowed
to have fun herself, live her own life. The sad
thing is is during all of this, we've all seen
what's going on, all these pictures of him, he's obviously
having a mental moment right now, the moment we always
forget they just had a child.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Awful, awful, so sad. It's also heartbreaking. I do think
though she is allowed to enjoy her life. I'm told
she is that she's getting kind of used to being
a single person. Just to be careful, because if you.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Don't show up, it's hard to go back.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
People move on. Okay, let's end with a moment of
Rob you Rob. Consistency is the secret, no matter what,
no results, keep going, bad results, keep going, great results,
keep going. The secret is not perfection. It's not instant success.
It's showing up again and again, no matter what the
(19:08):
school board say is progress is built in the repetition
and real success it comes to the ones who can't stop.
So keep going. Hey, that is it fall today. Thank
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