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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hell, living and low and Low. Welcome to the Naughty
but Nice. I'm your host, Ram Shooter, and it is Thursday,
which means our dear friend Mark Lupo joins us. He
are you there?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Lupy lewis here?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Brab Harry is? How are you my friend? We haven't
had a catch up in a while. How's your mmy Doris?
You know I adore her has the boyfriend Kevin Jonas.
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Everyone's great. We're going to Greece in two weeks, so.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, very very Are you Greek?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, you're Cuban, half Greek, Italian and Irish.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Oh nice combination, Nice combination. We'll have a lovely time
in grease. And I know you're going to get up
early there to do the show. Mark. I'm sure you
have your microphone.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And I also know I'm tried and I try to
do my best, so we'll see.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You always do your best. I'm kidding. You're allowed to
have a week off. Okay, let's jump into as show.
What time is it? My friends? It is d time.
Big story at the top of the show. I really
like this story. So William and Kata determined to protect
Charlotte and Louis from Prince Harry's Spare Trauma. So Harry
really laid this out in the book. And even though
the royal family really did not like this book, they
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were really angry about the book. What are the good
things about the book is it pointed out what it's
like to be the spare. We all know, some of
us know, if you've got an older brother or sister,
if you're in the middle, or if you're the youngest,
there's sort of feelings you have about that. And so
Harry made this really clear, and I think for the
first time ever, William realized, you know what, my life's
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different than Harry's because I was always going to be
the king. I was always treated kind of really special.
Now I'm not saying Harry was not treated special. People
bowed down when they saw Prince Harry. He still was
a prince. He lived in a palace. It's a lovely life. However,
it wasn't quite as lovely as the life his brother had.
He said when they would go to Belle Morrell, William
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would get a better bedroom because William is going to
be the king. Well, what William and Kate did with this,
which I think is really lovely. They looked at their
kids and they said, little George will be king, But
what about Charlotte and what about Louis? Will they grow
up feeling like a spare? And so they're trying really
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hard to make sure that's not the case. And sources
tell me the way they're going about this is to
let them know they are important, that their role in
life is not just a way to round in case
their sibling dies, but their role in life is to
find a purpose. They want them to learn languages, they
want them to travel, they want them to get jobs,
they want them to have a career, they want them
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to have passions. All the things that would have helped
Harry but weren't necessarily done for him. We should also
point out that Charles's brother, full Prince Andrew, he has
the spare syndrome too. And I'm not saying I excuse
Andrew's terrible behavior, but he grew up in a really
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odd way. I can't imagine growing up I'm the youngest
of five. I can't imagine growing up thinking, oh, the
only reason I'm on this earth is in case my
other four brothers and sisters die, and then they'll need
me to be the king. I'm a spare I'm just
sitting around waiting for a job that probably is never
going to come along. Harry, to his credit here and
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I loved that book. A lot of people didn't. But Harry,
to his credit, has given Kate and William a master plan,
a master education in how not to raise a kid.
And I think they've actually thought about it. And so
although they do not like this book, I'm being clear here,
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they haven't had an epiphany and suddenly love Harry and
love the book. That's not true. There is a silver
lining to this book, and it's taught them that their
own children. They love their children, love Charlotte, they love Louis,
they love George too. Of course they love all three,
but George has a very different life than the other two,
and they want to make sure that all their kids
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feel like they're valued. It's actually kind of a sweet story.
What do you think, more tragic but sweet?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
It is a sweet story. And I will say that
I think with these changes with Harry and Megan, everything
that's happened in the past few years, I think people
recognize that they have to modernize the way they approach
the royals and how they approach work. And you know
what I love about the family is like, you know,
you have to acknowledge Princess Anne, who is the workhorse
of this family, and.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
She's the backbone.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
She's the backbone. And I would say if I were
you know, Kate and William, I would say, look at
your aunt, your great aunt. Look at the work she's done,
how many jobs she's taken and how many rules she's
taken on. And she was not ever going to be
probably you know, the queen, but she still worked really
hard for the family. She shows up and I think
to your point, Rob two, it's recognizing their strengths, their
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interests and then developing that. So it's if you know,
Charlotte lakes languages, if she likes certain things, and we
build the foundation around that, we do something to encourage
her and develop her and recognize that she is important
like you're saying, and that you're not just a spirit,
but you have a place in this world.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a hard job. By I'm not going
to have this job. By I don't want children, it's
not going to be my thing. But the youngest of five,
I never felt like the spare. In fact, I felt
sort of special being the youngest. Now, my older sisters
and brothers might disagree with me here, and I often
think good grief. If we had been born into the
Windsor family, if we weren't shooters but we were Windsors,
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would I be resentful that I was not going to
be the king my brother was. I have three older sisters.
They've changed the rules now. It used to be the
boys and then the girls, but now it's strictly in
age order. So I would be literally the last choice
to be the king. You're the oldest of you and
Jonathan your brother, Yes I am, and does he have
spare issues about you?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, it's funny. My parents are very much always been equal.
There's never been like a your younger or older. You
get this, You get that I've always gotten the biggest bedroom,
and that's you know, that's deserved and I will not
give that up. That's just I'm kidding, but you know
it's true. Like you do have some privileges as an alter,
you know, sibling, but you also have privileges as a
younger sibling. You see the mistakes they make you learn,
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and you don't, you know, hopefully replicate those those mistakes
and you do better.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah. Yeah, isn't it wild that of all the people,
Harry is someone that has pointed this out, Like, I
don't think that was his intention. In the book. It
was about Harry. This book was about self growth for him.
It's his book. There's nothing wrong with that. But in
the process of writing this book, they suddenly figured out,
Oh my goodness, this Spare curse should we call it
(06:45):
a curse? The Spare curse? It's real, and we have kids.
We don't have one, we have three, so we have
to be really careful about all of them, but particularly
Charlotte and Louis, which brings us to our whole question
of the day. Prince William and Kate are determined to
protect Charlotte and Louis from Prince Harry Spare trauma questions
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very simple, but a very complicated one. Can they end
the curse? The fact they're aware of it? Anything in
life that you are to change, the first step is
being aware of it. So the fact they're aware of
this now and they really were not until this book
came out. The fact they're aware of it, that helps,
But is helping enough? Can they cure the curse? Hey?
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back time out RAU to hear your results. Okay, we've
got a Diddy update. We're going to have lots of
Diddy updates. I think this trial's going to go on
for about eight weeks. But there's explosive, explosive details every day.
We're not going to get too much down in the
weeds of it. We're just giving the really really big
(07:53):
stuff that all your friends are going to be talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
What's happening, Mark, this is crazy. So an extra porastar
is claiming he wass sex sleeve and signed a five
million dollar NDA with a rapper. Okay, let me explain.
So a resurfaced case involving an ex porn star, Jonathan
odddy is now directly tied to Sean Didtycomb's with a
bomb shut revelation that did he allegedly signed a five
(08:16):
million dollar NDA with the rapper. Now, this porn star
is claiming that to police that he was a sex slave,
saying the mogul instructed him on how to have sex
with his then ex girlfriend. His then girlfriend, I should
say Cassie Ventura. He said, I had sex with Cassie
and Sean and this was in a chilling kind of
video where he explained it. And now a copy of
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this NDA has been released. He signed this in twenty
fourteen in Miami, and it looks like that is the
reason why his financial situation turned around. Now, Rob, this
video was going around social media for quite some time.
I saw this and I was wondering why no one
really was paying attention. But this is really kind of explosive.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
What do you think It took a minute to breakthrough.
So we're in the legit media, even this silly little
show of ours. And so often I see stuff online
it bobbles up. I think they call it the dark
web and places where you have really no business going.
It's normally orcan's pitspiracy theories. However, a few things do
start there and they take a while to get into
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the mainstream. The best example of this, I think historically
was Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. That story was going
around Washington. It was sort of really before websites had exploded,
but it was a website, the Drudge Report, that broke
that story. It turned out to be true and so
I often look at this stuff. I was aware of it,
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but now because the trial's going on, and I think
it's because the NDA, the non disclosure agreement allegedly it
looks real, has been posted. And so why is did
he wise did his team paying somebody five million dollars?
You don't do that because you just feel generous one day.
There's something that he knows. I would imagine that NDA
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is void now because of the criminal investigation. You can't
hide behind an NDA when it comes to criminal enterprise activity.
So I would not be at all surprise if this
young chap is called to testify. And let's be honest
to Mark Welcome, we're careful about it on this show.
(10:23):
The term ex porn star and sex slave, that's a
lot like that gives me pause, Like you know what
a proud I am. We never swear on this podcast,
and we really don't like to talk about sex because
I don't like to talk about it. It's just not
my thing to be shattering God about that. I could
talk about anything, but not that bark. And so I
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was a little blushing when I when I saw those words.
I mean, it's a bombshell accusation. And what it does.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
This just keeps adding to this narrative of Diddy being controlling,
of making people sign nddas of this very very elaborate,
toxic sex life. Now he's saying that, yes, he does
have a very wild sexual life, but it's all consensual.
(11:15):
It's not it's not illegal. And so that's where I
think he's going to sort of he's not going to
deny this, I don't think, but he's going to be saying, yes,
I did pay to have sex with pornographic stars and
I did video them and that was turned me on.
That's my kinks. But that's not against the law. It's
just adding to a messy this all is, isn't.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
It It is? And I think you know, when he
first came to the police, the exed porn story, that
was and I believe eighteen, no one really knew what
he was talking about. People refused and it kind of
just sounded like a wild tale. And you know, the
context now of what we've learned about did he in
present day really I think adds gravity to these claims.
(11:55):
And yes, it's of course it's it's you have consensual
sex and you've told the people that you were having
sex with They're going to be recorded, that's one thing,
but that's not what's being alleged by many others. There
were secret recordings, and so that is the case with this,
and I think he has a bigger problem on his hand.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, he has a big, big problem. Okay, moving along,
Disney are going to open in the desert. So they're
opening their new theme park in Abba Dabi, which is
I think the only reason I know anything about this
place is The Sex and the City Girls with very
one of their films. So I'm not that I think
Lindsay Lowad lives there. Is that Dubai No she lives
in and so they're going to open up there. It
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just goes to show you that it's a big world
out there. They're going to put a ton of investments
in this. The company is thrilled for written what I was.
I hit the phone and I saw sort of really
smart friends at the trades, the business organizations, the outlets,
and they told me that America now is just one
market for a global company like Disney and a car company,
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and that's why trade is so difficult. On what we're
going through right now, we're no longer isolated we are
a globe, and they make more money from Disney movies
overseas than they make here in America. So when they
put out a movie now, often the gross overseas is
greater than the gross here in America. And we see
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this quite often with the Mission Impossible franchise. They don't
open them in America first, they opened them in Europe,
or they opened them in Japan, or they opened them
somewhere else. And so it's so interesting, Mark, we're part
of this massive world, whether we like it or not,
we really really are. And Disney have figured out now
the future might not necessarily be here in America, it
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might be overseas. I would love to go to Disney World,
Abbot Doll, wouldn't you? Or would love to go?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It sounds fabulous, and you know, I agree. I think
also beyond the fact that media is kind of contracting
and movies and TV or not selling the way they
once did, you know, it's the experiences. And in this
particular instance, Abu Dhabi is saying they'll pay for everything,
They're going to build a park and then Disney will
just license their their IP. That's that. So it's a
one win for everyone. I think.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oh if anyone in Abadaba is listening and wants the
license there naughty but nice, Mark and I will turn up.
We'll ride a camel, do whatever you want. Mark, we
will turn up you and oh lovely, Oh be lovely.
We could take everybody else like the Sex and the
City Girl's part too. Okay, quickly before we get a break.
There is lots of drama with the Beckhams. What is
(14:23):
Kevin on? Try and break this down for me, Mark,
It's quite complicated, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So Brooklyn Beckham's wife, Nicola Pelt has had enough. According
to our sources, she's pointing fingers directly at her mother
in law Victoria Beckham, calling her a narcissist whoa okay,
so sos Saint Nichola is done playing nice. She's been
holding her tongue for years and she's fed up with
the constant mind games and fake texts from Victoria and
(14:50):
then insider state. Nicola has become Brooklyn's fiercest defender, refusing
to be pushed out of the family's talks and confronting
the Beckhams directly.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Wait.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yes. The source has also said she's always talks back
to the family and stands up for Brooklyn, and that
drives Victoria crazy. Nicola refuses to be quiet, and she's not.
She's not a pushover, and Victoria is just not used
to that.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It's hard. Victoria's Queen Bee of this family, and Nicole
has come along and the coal now I think she's
Queen Bee. That's really complicating things too. Is Nicole's family
have more money than the Beckhams multi billion hares, so
Nicole doesn't have to just bow down to Victoria here
because she doesn't really need her financially. It's complicated when
you join a family. Kevin Jonas, that's Marx Feller. It's
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not the real Kevin. We should clarify that and get
a legal letter. But his name's Kevin, so we call
him Kevin Jonas. When he goes on the trips with
your family, vacations with your family, it's hard fitting in
because you don't want to mess things up. I tread
very carefully with Bruce's family. I'm Bruce's biggest defender, but
if the family, I'm a little I'm a little softer
with the family. You have to be a little softer here.
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These two don't care. Victoria's not there back in. She
not bucking down. She's a spice girl and Nicole has
more money than God, so she ain't backing down to
Oh it's messy, isn't it. This is gonna make the
palace look boring. This is going to petty, petty petty. Okay,
we're going to take a quick break and we will
be right back. Welcome back to the naughty but nice
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chety head stop shoot with a different modernlupo helu p.
Let's get to the polls. Ah. Last show, we broke
the story that Harry just can't be trusted with the
royal secrets, particularly now after the BBC interview where he
hinted at stuff about King Charles's health Not call Harry,
did he blow his last chance at peace? Seventy five
percent said yes, when you start talking about something as
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private as your dad's health, particularly when you know your
dad does not really want to talk about it. He
very rarely talks about his cancer. I don't know. I
don't know if we can trust Harry anymore. And when
the trust is gone, there's nothing else left. Hey, don't
forget to vote on't today's pole will go to a
page at Naughty, Nice rob at Facebook page has noaded
your sip. I'd be sure to check back tomorrow to
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here your results are. Damn, it's time for noisiest of
the dag.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Oh wow, this is a surprising one.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
It's Benefflick, unusual, unusual for us, But here he is,
and he's speaking out about Britney Spears. So Ben Affleck
has gotten candid about his empathy for Britney Spears, admitting
he was haunted by the media's treatment of the pop
princess during her darkest days. Oh, he said, I really
had a lot of empathy for Britney Spears because I
remember it seemed like these people were following her around
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in a time where she may or may not have
been having some difficulties.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oh. I think we all feel a little like that
for Britney looking back now it's over ten years ago. Mark.
We were part of the media back then, and I
think I was part of the problem, Like I was
obsessed about it. It was like the Amanda Bynes when she
had her breakdown. We ultimately just had to say stop
covering her. She's really in a bad place and we
need to just give this girl some grace. It's easy
looking back. But the problem is been you know, and
(17:59):
I know you're the nicest of the day, so I
don't want to beat more. But you know how I
feel about then, Why didn't you speak out ten to
fifteen years ago when she needed your help? Right? He could,
He could have stood up. He could have stood and said,
on behalf of Hollywood, leave her alone, stop it, stop
hounding car and that would have made a difference back then.
He could have shamed us. But he didn't say anything then,
So it's easy to zoo, I'm sorry, you are the
nicest of the day, begrudgingly. And now man artists the
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day naughny, naughty, naughty, naughty. Prince Harry now has an
American accent. So inside as I saying he's more Malibu
than monarchy, insiders have noticed that the British chap who
used to be a British soldier now is much more
comfortable at NOBU in California, and he started to talk
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with an American accent. Now, I've been in America for
thirty years and my family. Do you think I sound American?
You know how ridiculous that it is naughty? It's most
of you, particularly the American listeners of this show, Mark,
do you think I've gone American?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
No? No, You're fully.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
British, British, British, British. Oh, Harry, he's just trying to
fit in. He seems so lost an Naughties of the day.
Let's end with a moment of roub. You're gonna rub
you a rub. Some people are meant to be a chapter,
not the whole story. It's hard to let go of
people you thought would be part of your forever world.
But the truth is not everybody was meant to stay
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until the end. Some people are only meant to be
a chapter, a lesson, a memory, a turning point, and
that's okay. Not all connections are lifelong. Some are just
long enough to shape you, to teach you, or to
show you what you truly deserve. So when it's time
to turn the page, do it with gratitude, not regret,
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because the story continues and the best parts are still ahead.
I'm really good at this, Mark. I didn't used to be.
I used to try and hold onto everybody, everybody desperately,
even when the chapter had ended. They actually made things
not really very good. When you hold on for too long,
it becomes desperate. And I'm not saying get rid of friends,
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but go with the ebbs and the flows of life.
Remember your your best friend, your new best friend might
just be around the corner. Hey, that is it for today.
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