Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 6/2

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Speaker 2 (00:35):
The volume.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
This show is dedicated to the shape of the Earth.
Are you Lloyd Jamar?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
This entire pod is not about current events about us.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
We're strictly here to figure out what.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
The shape of the commercial episode in here.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
They didn't get on the same path as me.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
That was the greatest podcast episode I've ever seen in
my life.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Hold on, but before before we get to that, hold on,
hold on but before wed I watched the three.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Times I subscribed to Professor Daves. I watched his day.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
He's not he's not lying, he's dead serious.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
And I came in here like you're seen what's up
with you?

Speaker 6 (01:30):
And Jamal and the fucking flat arms. What's going on
with the flat arth don't make no sense? Can give
us some about what to shape for the earth is
and this is supposed to be peace to the gods
and the earth flat right? You know what?

Speaker 7 (01:47):
Mocks talk but they breath, go away, don't matter?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Does it affect you to side of the mouth of
the funny.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
The funniest part about all this is this originally was
a zoom and so we was gonna have god.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
And I came in here. I'm like, I think Godfrey
lives in Manhattan. Why are we zooming?

Speaker 4 (02:07):
And it was like you and I said.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Yeah, man, I'm like, where are you at?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
And now he's.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Here in the studio, So thank you for coming back,
No doubt appreciate y'all.

Speaker 7 (02:18):
I know you guys sort of because I was like,
aren't you don't fuck?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I do appreciate that you blindly accept podcast invitations because
when we got on zoom, you were.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Like, ain't you the guys? Yeah coming over there.

Speaker 7 (02:33):
That we appreciate that because I watched and listen regardless
of what happens in this biz, you know, everyone's doing
that thing. Things happen is what it is. Man, I
mean looking with the flat earth the ship. I adn't
even spoken to him and man over over the shape
of the earth.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
That's what's hilarious. You haven't spoke.

Speaker 7 (02:53):
No, I don't. I don't, I didn't do anything. But
well here's the thing. Okay, he was like talking about
the shape of the earth, and I go all right, hey,
why don't you have when we bring it, because we're
going to bring Neil de Grass Tyson on there.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Because that he was going to debate him, because Chuck.

Speaker 7 (03:10):
Chuck Nice, my man, Chuck Nice is his co host
on his show Star Talk.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I've done Star Talk with him. I did.

Speaker 7 (03:16):
Also, I did Neil de Grasson's Neila Grass Tyson's show
on on nat GEO. We shot at the planetarium or eight,
you know.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
So I know that.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
I said, yeah, let's call Neil the Grass because we were
let's put a black man on there to talk to
another black man.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
So and Neila Grass was too busy.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
So he's like, well, this guy, Dave the science communicator
said hey, man, I'd like to debate this dude ahead.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well you're leaving out of park.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
After you guys had that conversation, Professor Dave did his
reaction video to the glass of Kognak in his hand,
which I grabbed some as well.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
To watch that reaction.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm just like, oh no, I'm on board Professor Davis
in the mixto.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
So I was like, this is great. It's science, man,
it's a debate. Who gives a fuck like, and I go, hey,
I got a guy. Because of course I didn't surprise
him some dadda. We said hey, would you like to
He goes, yeah, I'll come through. I said, well cool,
and so he's on there and before I remember, before

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he even got on the screen. Yo, fuck that motherfucker.
I was in a shock. I was like, oh shit.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (04:26):
So I just kept quiet and I'm not trying to
embarrass anybody. You want to battle, and he said, I'll
even go against Neiodograss Tyson. He's not a real astro physicist,
he's an actor. I was like, huh dude, he was,
if you guys, I'm a real nerd. So Carl Sagan
was the original Cosmos Carl said, you know, Carl Sagan
is well Carl Sagan was the well Neiodograss Tyson host Cosmos,

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but the original host of Cosmos was Carl Sagan, this.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
White dude, dark hair, and I love Carl.

Speaker 7 (04:55):
I grew up on Carl Sagan watching Cosmos because I
was into astronomy and shit like that. And so he
was Neila Grass Tyson's mentor. And you know, Neola Grass
is from the Bronx, and he was when he was
studying excited, you know, Neil Grass.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
It was an all state wrestler. It was a free And.

Speaker 7 (05:13):
When I got into science, I met, you know, Carl Sagan.
He gave me like a blessing. But boom, so his
that's how his life has been. He's a real scientist.
And so he goes, yeah, I'll debate anybody. And I said, cool,
this will be awesome. And and what's funny he says, Oh,
I was just doing it for clicks. I go, who

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isn't doing it for clicks? That's how you live. I
need clicks, that's how you get money. And so he
got on there and when he said what he said
before the guy got on, I go, oh boy. So
I just sat there and Dave stood stood his ground,
you know, and he went at him.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
And and Dave is also a very how do I
put it, arrogant? Yes, arrogant with stipulations because what he's
saying is factual, but it can piss somebody off just the.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
Way he sky. Yeah, well, yeah, you understand what a
ball is. Yeah, it's gravity.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Dumb as.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
He's gonna piss somebody, somebody from neuro he's gonna piss off.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
The way he speaks, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:23):
The way he's talking. Yeah, of course. But when you're right,
you're right. That's my thing, and I'm like, you handle it.
I just want to watch. I'm not trying to go
back and forth, you know, because I know science, but
I'm not that deep in it like that, you know,
But you really want to battle this flat earth ship
because for me, I understand why flat Earthers have come

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into play. I understand because we're lied to so much,
just in general. Government lies to what lies was about food,
They lied about everything. So I understand when people go
conspiracy theories. That's where's conspiracy theories come from. Is there
the presence of God? Is there such thing as a Jesus?
You get it because motherfuckers lie a lot. So I
understand the flat earth thing. And what's funny is there's

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some things about flat Earth that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
You go, you know what, that kind of makes sense.

Speaker 7 (07:14):
I like people that, even if they're wrong, they have
some shit that you go, well, wait a minute, and
that makes for good, you know, a good conversation, and
so go ahead.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm a huge conspiracy theorist. They accused me of being
a flat earther for a long time, and granted, I
went and went through the same YouTube rabbit holes that
I'm sure Lord margin as well. I was like, no,
that's probably bullshit, but I still believe in a lot of.

Speaker 7 (07:38):
There is some stuff that made sense, you know, perspective wise. Okay,
if this is this, why don't we see the curvature that?
Then I brought my buddy on, My buddy, Calvin stig Stiggy.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
He's a pilot.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
Jamaican was Jamaican is all hell, and he studied geospace
engineering and he was he protected Obama. He's an air forceman,
like he did the tom Cruise ship that you get
the tricks and all.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
So he goes, he goes. He said, what blood cloud?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
The earth is round?

Speaker 7 (08:12):
I said, Jamaican is saying that ship.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
You gotta believe it. Jaic sit. It wasn't good. I
wasn't anything.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
When they go bumba cloud.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
Gotta believe them, he said, Dude, he said bumba cloud.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
VI said the same, said he didn't kill that. I
was order the ear.

Speaker 7 (08:34):
I showed up, I said, he said, it's real.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
So there is curvature. It is what it is.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
It's like because I don't know, because I don't fly,
I don't you know, So what if what if those
pictures that we have seen of the Earth are fake?
What if they are? Because we don't we're not satellite
we have I haven't. I'm not superman R I can
fly and go, ah, it is round. What if they're
lying to us because we're here on the planet. We

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don't know what the fuck they're doing up there. They
could be I'm saying, they could be lying with the
moon landing.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I you know, the moon landing.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
I'm doubting that ship, you know, especially after those space
cunts went up there. I'm sorry, the cosmic cunts.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
This yeah, called by the proper names, the cosmic cunts.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
The cosmic cunts went up, kid, they go up.

Speaker 8 (09:25):
There was some air and their first.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Of all, where's your helmet?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
At minimum? Like, what's first of all, where's your pressure suit?

Speaker 7 (09:35):
They didn't even have at least motorcycle helmets saw this.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I'm just saying I don't mean to insult them, but
I was just like.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
And you and then you have fucking Katy Perry describing
what the fuck happened?

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Why would you pick her?

Speaker 7 (09:55):
It's like it was just love, love and conduction and
just and we were just that and connect what the
fuck are you talking about? We're talking science, like, hey,
I felt the gravitational pull and then Bezos his wife
with that fucking you would think that she had all
that face ship done, that the gravity would have her.

Speaker 9 (10:16):
Whole ship would have been like, oh my god, yeah,
the girl just fucked my whole operational her ship would
have been like she would have looked like a fucking yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
It was.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
There was no effect on that.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
So I was like, we're and they were like this,
we're we're in fast. If you're in space, if you're
on a high speed fucking train, you're like this, oh
ship right, if you're oh fucking you know, I do
get off that. You're like, oh ship, god damn, but
you're in space and you're just going.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
Look at my daisy, Oh my god, a deavi men
connect shat And then they came out like yeah, if
you come from space, you're like fuck, yeah that was.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
And then Bassos tried to open the door. They already
opened it over.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
It was like fucking too. Was like yeah we saw it.
No aanks to make sure his wife is okay, yes,
and you.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Know what, and then it's like you can't we our
bodies can't handle those kind of forces, you know, And
you're in an airplane thirty five thousand feet and you're
pressure and then come on, here's pilots that go higher
than that. Fuck you talk. These pilots are up there
with helmets on it oxigenate and you yeah, and you're

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higher than they are. But you're like, yeah, fath final Frontier, Yeah,
these are evens, Like fuck, we have to go on turble.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
He's like this, Captain, I don't think we can make that.
He's like, damn it, V.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
This makes no space look like real space. Like I
don't think we can make them. I think that force
will suck as it spunk.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
We have to get there to spunk, right.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
And these motherfuckers like yeah, yeah, we were there.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
It's love and it's cannot shotting.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Like it was brunt time for feminism in that high altitude.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
The fuck is wrong with you? Any gender thing? Shot?
And what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Not that she found about love of there, it was
the fact that she decided two days later that she
needed to learn how to walk again.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
Did you see that concert she was doing that? It
was trash. Her concert was gabbage straight that she was
so bad? She was she was, I said, maybe she
did because she deliverate crickets.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
They left her.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
Gravitational forces done fun to me. When she was in
that dressed as a fucking that was at least she
should have been dressed in that to go to space.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
But they were all these sexy suits.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
And then there's Gail King, right, and there's Oprah's body double,
and then there's I call her Oprahs stunt double because
if Oprah's like in a car scene and she rolls out,
it's Gail car And there's two scientists were real scientists.
The girl that's the Vietnamese girl who was actually you know,

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she was like sexually assaulted when she was a scienceman. Yeah,
she's gone through a lot. She's actually a real astrophysicist
or whatever. And the black girl. It's the in the middle.
There's the Vietnamese or the Vietnamese shit in the front
that's the lowest. And the black girls they're too real
astral side, so I think they brought them in to
just keep the hoax going. But it was some bull

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They went straight to Katie Perry first, and I said, oh,
this is bullshit.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
They fucked up. Yeah. Yeah, She's like it was just
love and not I'm not, We're just that.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
She was an up Gail like kind of had a
little sassy attitude, like when she.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
She was like this, like she's like, have you been
to space? Then you tell me, I'm sorry, ask you
what happened to your friend? Is Jeff Bezos? Space costs
a million dollars of tea? I just did. I was
just on kayak to get my ticket to go to
North Carolina. You're talking about I was using my flyer
miles and negotiate it. Just try to go to our

(14:27):
flight and you're talking about have you been to slate?
That's what I knew it was. I'm sorry, have you
been to space? So when you get to space, let
me know. Have you been to space?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
No, we haven't. You're the only ones that have obviously
been there.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Because that's why you heard what you're talking about. Flint
doesn't have clean water and you went to space.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
God, I totally forgot about that that Flint didn't No, no,
I went to Flint.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
This space voyage that Gail Kingdom went over the interviews.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
People don't believe it. If you've been to space.

Speaker 7 (15:04):
If I have a friend named Jeff bab a friend
of Jeff Basis, I'll go and.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
He'll pay for my dam But you didn't go to smutic.
Have you been in space?

Speaker 7 (15:11):
You obviously haven't either, because you're not explaining anything to us.
You could have been like, well, the gravitational forces, it
was really amazing we saw then we saw cosmic dust
and just some space talk like you could have been
at least like we I think we saw like Haley's
comic come by and we saw there's asteroid. We were
able to see, you know, the news, the craters and

(15:32):
I mean, I know some science like tell us something.
You were like this, have you been to space? Well,
if you don't know space, shut your ass, and you
know how they use the word space now just in Jail,
I just love this space that we're in.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
You know that we were in a space in space.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
It was sort of a safe space in space, which
was sort of space like Saints Craft.

Speaker 10 (15:57):
So everything's about spacey that I'm spacey from the space,
and in this space I was able to really be
in a safe place for space.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
And this is a good working space for me.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
Yeah. And you know, and people who don't know about
this space know nothing about the space.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
So where are you on the side of I still
want to take Lord Jamara Antarctica?

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Do you remember when they did the experiment recently?

Speaker 7 (16:24):
What thirty five thousand dollars apiece for these flat earthers
to go to because they say that Antarctica there's an
end in Antarctica, there's some other like big fucking land.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Okay, there's a wall.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yes, So this dude's like the romaniles on the other side.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
I'm right, I'm pretty to take careious.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
There's a Child island right there. Go to Google maps.
Is there a Rothschild Island in Antarctica? Yeah? I believe that.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
No, it's a fact snowcastle. Listen, I'm saying that the
Earth is round. I'm also saying that the rough Child's
own an.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
Island like that along with that could be the Rothschild,
the Rock of Felly.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
I believe that now.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
But as far as like he goes, okay, I'm gonna
take you guys to Antarctica, fly you all out. This
guy scientist paid thirty five thousand a piece. Yeah, I
got the money. And then we're gonna sit there and
watch the sun. If the sun stays in the air,
stays out for twenty four hours at the Earth's round,
they were like, okay, bet they camped out.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
That fucking sun stayed there. They were like, that's cgr
that fucking are.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
They all right?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
So they were. They took like flat Earther influencers, like
they took the Kendall Jenner of flat Earth down there,
and then when they got there there was like, yo, no,
that twenty four hours don't exists, Like yeah, yeah, it's
it's real. Then they exiled them like some scientology ship,
like they kicked them out of the flat earther community
because they were like, guys, I was there.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
I promise you that was not they were. And then
they're like it's round. Earth is round.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
It's it's right Wrongati kicked out of the return.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
It's a freak kicked out.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
You're out here you think it's you think it's a spear,
You're right of your asshole.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
And the internet is just the worst place because when
I was here they make their money. Though I wasn't
even looking at the flat air ship. When I started
on that rabbit hole. They were telling me like, yo,
there's no flights from Argentina to Australia, and I was like, damn,
why is that the case?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Then I went on price line. I'm like, no, you
can fly.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Put misinformation as a fact and if you don't double check,
he just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Go to Trinidad. I just found that yesterday they don't.
So it's not a triangle. You look at the jet
you can get there.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
They sold the lines Jet Blue has more lies.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Now we're going at one flat Earth or rabbit hole.
I went down.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
They showed footage of everyone taking off from Australia and
they said they were forcing everyone to put the windows
down so you couldn't see.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yo. But these.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
I gotta give credit to flat Earth.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
There's that. Keep going.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
They'll go like this, but no, and how come the
wing was tilted?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Gets with that?

Speaker 7 (19:15):
That's the flat earth the grab. And then we were
talking about there was a thing about buoyancy. You saw that,
of course. Okay, how come when you dip up the
tennis water ball in a ball of a ball.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
In water like a tennis ball, and you spin it,
the water comes off. How come.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
It does it? The water doesn't fly off the Earth?

Speaker 11 (19:33):
He goes, hey, dummy, because the Earth is a gigantic
fucking mass, a humongous mass, and gravity exists, and there's
a you know, there's a force that keeps us down.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
You know, when you throw a ball up, it goes
fucking down.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
It's like, well, you know where down? He's like, do
you know where down is?

Speaker 7 (19:52):
And in buoyancy in the equation if you can pop
it up the equation for buoyancy, there's a G for
gravity on the other side of the the equal side.
G is in the is in the equation for buoyancy.
It's in the equation. Why do things float? There's gravity

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in the equation.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
I'm stupid.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
So it's not like I'm sitting here like I know everything,
But this ship makes more sense to me than someone
just screaming, hey, a ball can't uh what's their famous line,
can't hold water or whatever the fuck they say it.
And I'm like, no, when they said it, I was like,
that's a great point. I was underly disproven right here.

(20:37):
It's a great point.

Speaker 7 (20:38):
You know it's not.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
I have a lot of love and respect for Lord Jamar.
I don't want to make it.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't want I don't want to make it seem
like you're not a large I was on his side
in the beginning, and I thought in the like, yo, listen,
you make it up some great points. And then Professor
Davis just was like, dog, all right, let me break
this down for you.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
And and and Neil de grass Tyson.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
You know, have you heard when him and Terrence Howard
wrote some stuff, some sign tipic theories, and Terrence is like,
I believe that that the planet there's no such thing
as zero, because if you see, I've done a lot
of calculation.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
You know, he sounds like skin. That's what he sounds like. Skinn.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
I love Terrence Swry. He sounds light skin, though I
sound like a dark skin. He sounds light skin. See
nobody dark skin?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Thunds like that. He hits.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
Here's the thing, though, you have to understand the philosophy
and astronomical calculation.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
I've done this for a long time. He sounds like skin.
That's what I love.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
But he ain't no joke. He don't play that bullshit
though I love will smack ship real deal. He ain't
no fucking He ain't no bump. That's what they whether.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
He was playing a pimp, a rapper with He wears
the same thing and looks exactly the same every role.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
And I love him to be that guy. That Batman
thing where he meets Batman, like he goes, what's up Batman?

Speaker 12 (22:05):
He goes, it's Batman. Okay, that's what I said, Batman.
That ship is his direct a lat But but when
you think runs with conviction like he does.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
Right, Because Neil the Grass actually looked at at the
paper he wrote and said, I looked at it, but
I just didn't have time to you know. But there's
some things that he said that didn't They weren't right,
But I give him credit for his effort.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
You know, there's this thing they call what's the theory?

Speaker 7 (22:34):
They call where you you think you know enough, you
think you know something, but you don't have enough information
to really know, and you don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
There's a there's a theory was it was? It called.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
It's now, it's not cognitive dissonance. It's ship.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
It's it's a theory where you narcissism.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
You don't know.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
Right where you have you think you have a certain
amount of information to make you think you know everything,
but you.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Don't have enough.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Something like that, District attorney, Puffy's lawyers, Okay read that?

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Can you read that?

Speaker 5 (23:18):
The phrase you don't know what you don't know highlights
the limitations of human knowledge and the potential for gaps
and understanding. It emphasizes that there are often things we
are unaware we don't know, which can lead to misunderstandings
or flawed assumptions.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Right, So it's that.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
And so Neil de Grass said, that's what he has.
He has that you know, you'll get.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
That's what he has. But I love his But I
we're scientists. We do We've done experiments over and over
and over.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
We this is what we do.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
And I'm not knocking him, but what you're talking about
is wrong because.

Speaker 7 (23:55):
I'm a fucking scientistic because I know what about acting,
like Arren' is an amazing actor.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
He's like, that's like me telling you about acting.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
You don't know it like I do.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
And so so that was really interesting that you know,
and and it's and and my thing is science is
there to be debated.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Is nothing wrong?

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Even though they've they've since the days of Einstein and
and and and and Boor and all these scientists that
have you know how they have all these different types
of they have, they have their own theories, they have
their own calculations and equations. Even back then, these are
I mean, madam cured. They all did science experiments over
for tons of them. So these motherfuckers know what they're

(24:37):
talking about, and it's okay to debate them.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Just be ready to get wrong, right, Just be ready
to be worth their actual job. Like right, just get ready,
you know, you know, it's like getting in a scene
with Denzel and be like, I know how to act?

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Are you sure about that?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Are you sure?

Speaker 12 (24:54):
So?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
What are we going to do?

Speaker 4 (24:55):
We're gonna work.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
You're gonna keep your mouth shut? Is that what let me?
You think?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
You know?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
You know? And now I'm sitting here like I don't know?

Speaker 7 (25:03):
That said what do I need to do to be
at coming actor? He said, learn, shut up, turn off
your phone, practice train?

Speaker 3 (25:16):
It was who was a men of Society who directed that?
Which Brothers was Hudland?

Speaker 5 (25:23):
I think it was the Yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Was it Hudland Brothers?

Speaker 5 (25:25):
No, oh, no, it was was it Bill Duke?

Speaker 3 (25:27):
No, Society is the Brothers.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
You know you think you know you don't fucked up?
You know that one right with Bill Bill.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Hughes Brothers.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Bill Duke was the one who said, you know you
didn't fuck it?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, he was so Alan he was doing a podcast
I think it was like with Neil Brennan maybe, and
was talking about directing Denzel for the first time, and
anytime he had any type of note or real direction,
Denzel would just show.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Thirty two thirty two.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
He'd do it for the whole week.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
And then Alan he was realized he was saying the
amount of movies he's done and saying, shut up, shut
the fuck up, thirty two thirty two. Don't tell me
what the fuck I'm doing right now?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
That is oh, yeah, hilarious, thirty two dinner for a
whole week.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
He was called thirty two, thirty two, thirty two crazy,
you know what? That's what I was like, Shut the
fuck up, Yeah, let me do what I got. You
just saw me in a Gang of Movies. Got an
oscar quick, right, let me do what I do.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
What I'm doing.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Everybody, he's like, can you like, no, yeah, no, I
can't do you see me directing you?

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (26:45):
You know it's in the thirty's. It happened to me.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
I was on a sentence. And when it comes to comedy, like,
I just feel like those people can't tell.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
The difference for you between let's say, standing.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Up and then situational comedy. Yeah, it's I can. I'm
good at both, you know, not everybody. A lot of
comedians can transfer into acting. That's one thing. A lot
of comedians can go from stand up to like sketch
comedy and stuff like that because we have that timing thing.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
We do character work on stage, so we can adjust easier.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
I'm not saying we're all gonna be the greatest at it,
but that's why they pick a lot of comics on
a lot of sketch stuff, because we kind of know
because a lot of sketches come from comics that they've watched. Oh,
they'll steal a joke and just extend it into a sketch.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
You feel me.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
So a lot of times, a lot of writers from
the snls and whatever will go to comedy clubs to
get premises.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Oh yeah, and you'll go, wait a minute, it looks
like my shit, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
So that's why we're real.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
We can we can think in sketch too, because a
lot of comics are writers.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
You got Michael Cha, you got Colin Jos. They're all comics.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
You know.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
There's a lot of my comic friends, right, a lot
of sketches. They're all comedians.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
So even though John Lenny was the head writer sketch, yeah,
he's a stand up.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
So a lot of us are stand up. Colin Quinn
was a stand up. Dennis Miller a stand up stads.
So we can get into acting. A lot of comics
can become dramatic actors too, you can because we're angry.
First of all, we're fucking angry. Comedy comes from anger,
pain and ship like that. You look at some great actors,
Robin Williams, you look at Michael Keaton was a stand
up Really what native Yeah, Michael's stand up comic, Michael Keaton,

(28:31):
who's one of the best greatest actors of Michael Keaton's
stand up?

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Kevin Pollack a stand up?

Speaker 7 (28:37):
Who else was. Richard Pryor was a good actor. Richard
actors asshole, you got, Eddie Murphy, you got. We can
keep going. There's a lot of stand ups that can
become actors. Rosie o'donald was a stand up comic. Rose
Ambarr stand up comed We could just it's easy to
it's easier. It's it's harder for an actor to do comedy, right, yeah,

(28:58):
for sure, but drama week it's easier for us to
get into that ship.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
You see Robert de Niro try to be a comedic actor,
and it's funny because Greg he's doing mafia movies. I like, listen,
I like but he But you remember the actors trying
to be a comedian.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
There was a show called The Actors Studio with James Lifton.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I love that. Papel did it.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, and he asked de Niro, what's the hardest thing
for you an actor?

Speaker 7 (29:26):
He goes comedy. It's it's so difficult, Denzel said it comedy. Comedy.
Kim Bassenger said, comedy. It's harder than drama, and it
doesn't get rewarded the way it should be. I think
a funny movie should be rewarded for because that's hard
because you already go into when you're going to go
see a funny, funny movie, you already got attitude. This

(29:46):
should better be funny, right right, ship, You know you
don't go into the drama going I better cry like a.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Because the notebook an me snotting bubbles.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Baby, I bet a cry like a bitch. Do I
want to?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
I want to lose breath in this motherfucker?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
You never do that.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
Yeah, you just go drama as a drama. You don't
always go to funny ushit wouldn't even funny. It's way
harder because there's an expectation. You know, a drama you
can have laughter, you can hear. If you cry, you
can hear. Comedy is like I just I come for
one fucking reaction.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
So you grew up.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
You grew up in Chicago. What's the Is it tougher
like the comedy scene, the comedy clubs in Chicago? Is
it tougher than New York? Or is New York by
far the toughest city for comedy right now?

Speaker 7 (30:34):
I don't know the landscape of comedy as far as
coming up because I'm like, I've been doing it over
twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
So I don't.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
But I knew in Chicago. I mean New York had
just more stages.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
Okay, New York and I've been coming up during the
deaf jam times and not it was I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
The urban shit was wild as fuck, Like what these
New York motherfuckers were.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Like, give a fuck? Yeah, I didn't even go up
yet they went to move. They'd be like, I'm just
letting you know what's about to happen to your son.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Don't be corny.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
I had what the gods.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
All you see was pale jackets and fucking echo jackets.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
And ship like that is like this ship like make me,
make me.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
N you go like this, Yeah, you're like, damn, what
the fuck you?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Brooke?

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I was did all.

Speaker 7 (31:24):
But in Chicago we had our urban circuit because I
came under Bernie Max Club. So it was me, Dion
cole h I would see Dean Cole, Corey Holcom, d
Ray Davis, I see Mike Caps would come from Indianapolis,
Edri would come from Saint Louis. So we was under
Bernie Max Ship. So we were doing urban. Like Chicago

(31:45):
urban scene was like, you know, we had Bishop don Juan,
you know the guy that hangs out with Snoop. I
know before Snoop though, he knew me as an amateur.
When I shot Soul playing with Snoop, Bishop came on
the set and greeted me first.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Wow, he came on.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
He said, baby Man, I'm proud of your baby Man.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
You've been man.

Speaker 7 (32:04):
I remember when you first started baby representing Chicago and
Snoop was like, how fuck you know? I said, I'm
from Chicago, Snoop. He goes, that's why I fuck with you, dog,
I love Chicago.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
I said, yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
We used to do pimp shows in Chicago with the
pimps to come Bernie Mack and it would be the
Chicago Bulls. When we was winning, we was giving the
next hand in it they had.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Boy, that was the greatest playoff shit ever.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
But that was the time when I was coming to
New York wearing wearing Jordan T shirts just being an asshole,
and Cats was like, no, fuck you man, I go, yo,
I'm not playing in the game.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
We say that to Jordan, Man say it to me.
I'm right here telling jokes. Bro.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I did ship like that.

Speaker 7 (32:50):
I dug myself in a hole every time I'd be
wearing Jordan shit like Jordan had like real special, like
he had a store. It was Jordan's had his restaurant
and there was T shirts you could only get from that,
so I would buy these exclusive. So I had one
where He's a cyborg Jordan the Greatest, And I came
off stage with that ship in Brooklyn other Brooklyn I went.

(33:11):
I think I went up after Chappelle or DC Betty
went up. There was like, he'll fuck Chicago.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
I go, You're losing.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
It does no good. Jordan's still going to score fifty.

Speaker 7 (33:23):
You you being mad here and this comedy show is
going to do You're no good, my friend, he was
still score fifty. Did you know the only reason why
you're in Madison Square Garden is for Michael Joey exactly?

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Don't forget exactly go ahead.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Did you know in Chicago at that time, because that
list you just named off coming, this is all Bernie Mack.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Bernie Mack was like the guy and my boy, Evan Lionel. Evan,
my big brother, is the one that got Bernie had
hooked Bernie up. People don't know Evan. Evan's like this
old Chicago dude, my big brother who started like the
black comedy circuit when he was in college and just
put he was the first guy to put money in
our pockets. And he's the one that brought Bernie into
the scene. He got footage on Bernie doing open mics. Wow,

(34:07):
he got shit on Bernie doing open mics. I've seen
it wo when Bernie wasn't rich, when Bernie was just
funny with his little glasses and shit some.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Of them a bitch fuck you. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
Yeah, he got footage on all of us when we
first started. Evan Lionel remember that name. He's the one
that stopped Bernie from a life of crime. He's the
one that went to high school with Bernie, Chicago Vocational
High School.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Bernard McCullum. You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
He said, Bernie, Man, come do my shows. Do that
You're talented. That's the dude. We need to talk about.
Evan Lionel for real. He brought us all into that,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (34:43):
He's still in LA and anytime Chicago, Chicago, anything that
happens with Chicago, we always let him know why I'm
in town. You know, he looks out for Chicago shit.
So deray, all of us came through there. I saw everybody. D. L.
Hugley came through the everybody. Then we had a club
call All Jokes Aside, which was all black comedy club
for like seven years, and it was all black, and

(35:06):
it wasn't Black Knight at a white establishment because most
of the Black Knights at a mainstream.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Establishing Urban Knight.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
I'm sorry the.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
Rough Nights economically, but what's your dream. The funny is
the urban Knights are what keeps the clubs open. Absolutely
they make the most money, but they won't say anything
about that because and and what's funny is most of
the African American headliners are the reasons why a lot
of these comedy clubs survive.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
It isn't the white ones.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
It isn't the like it's like the black ones always
kept ship going because the urban Knights made more. It
was packed because it was like, oh this is all night,
you know, and yeah, that's that's where that's where I
came from watching all of the Mark Curry.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
I just watched all the greats come through there, man,
like it was like holy shit.

Speaker 10 (36:00):
No yet.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I didn't have much service and the Wi Fi was
down where I was at, so there was only a
few times I could see what was pissing everyone off
per hour, but I did, but I did see Complex.
Anytime Complex puts any list out, you know, the timeline
is gonna melt. Everyone's gonna stop what they're doing on
a Saturday, say fuck their kids, fuck.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
The plans they had.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
We need to argue about what Complex has to say,
even if it is a third party writer ten ninety nine,
that doesn't even work.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Does anyone even work at Complex anymore?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I think it's bots that just make They just do
a AI generated lit like what would piss the time chae?

Speaker 3 (36:37):
What would piss the timeline off? Like?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Just leave tupac off exactly. That's what chatchubt sput up. Well,
to be fair, Pak is not from LA, which we'll
get there. Yeah, Complex Best LA Rappers of All Time list.
I don't know if this is going to start the
city by city thing that we're gonna get for the
rest of the year, but I'm not mad at them.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Start with LA. We'll just go through the top five
real quick.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Well, the funny thing go ahead, because this is the
top fifty LA rappers, right, Yes, a lot of these
rappers are not from LA. They're from California, but they're
not from Los Angeles. Okay, how we you know what
I mean? I guess that's when I saw the list out,
Like I looked at it. I was like, Okay, but
this is from LA. A lot of these guys are
not from LA. I Snoop us from Long Beach, Kendrick

(37:25):
is from Compton, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
It's kind of like where we Okay, I see what
you're saying.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
But if they did the Greatest New York City Rappers
of all time and Jadakiss was on the list, I
wouldn't be like, no, he's from Yonkers. I wouldn't say
that he's still New York City rapper. Long Beach is
still I understand that those are not in the LA County,

(37:50):
or maybe it is LA County, but it's not a
Los Angeles address. Compton is its own city, Long Beach
is its own city. It's still the LA Greater area.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Like I mean, I just know people from from these
places that they've had these same They like, Yo, that's
we're not LA. This is that's not LA. He's not
from LA. Okay, they're saying this like he's not from LA.
He's not from LA. They where he's from. They don't
even fuck with La. Like it's a lot of that going.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
On, of course, and I get that politics, especially with
La of any other city, but not even to get
on the Amoretta shit. But like, if they were to
do the best rappers from Atlanta, Andre three thousand can't
be on it now because he's technically not from Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Well that's why you go best rappers from California.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
You got that now.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
But then that's insane because you're getting into the Bay
Like that's a big California is like the third biggest state.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Uh okay, yeah, I'm not I'm not hearing nitpick, but
I'm just you know, it was reading the timeline and
seeing what people were saying, that's all.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Like, if we can't have rock him on the Greatest
New York City Rappers, why wouldn't you He's from Long
Island exactly, that's New York though it would be the
New York City, it wouldn't be New York City, it
would be New York. Oh then if we're get in
New York State, then we have to put in Griselda there. Yeah, okay,
not cool. So we just state by state you would do,

(39:15):
I would just do the whole New York. Okay, No,
I'm not stay in New York fair enough.

Speaker 13 (39:21):
Some niggas from Binghamton who'll get it.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
In for sure, from Binghamton, like rapping get it in.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
She's not talking about rapp Okay, flood, Who's who's rapping
from Binghamton?

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Like I missed that whole that movement.

Speaker 13 (39:37):
I'm just saying, you know, we get Rory's point, though,
I was.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
More so on the side of the rappers that are
straight up not from the LA area period. Okay, So
we'll get at least to the top five, and then
from there I think it brings up immediately somebody that's
really not so at number one is Kendrick Lamar, number two,
Snoop Dogg three, ice Q four, Doctor Dre five, Tyler,

(40:03):
Creators six, DJ Quick seven, iced T eight, b Real nine,
Easy E Tennifcy hustle out the gate. To your point, Mare,
I know Iced Tea very much made his career on
the West Coast. It is a representation of the West Coast.
He's from Norton, New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
M hm.

Speaker 14 (40:18):
He would be iced Tea would be from Newark, New Jersey.
Why do you say that because he acts like he's
from Flort, New Jersey. That makes so much fucking sense.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Is he likes white girls? No, not just that because
he pimps out white.

Speaker 13 (40:31):
Girls because of the type of you know, we love
Coco of course.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
How do you feel about the top ten outside of
the regional debate between iced Ta and Newark, New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
I just think having Game not in the top ten
is blasphemy. I completely agree with you, you know, Dennis,
the more I look through the list, who would you
replace them with a game?

Speaker 13 (40:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Oh, I think Game can be in the top.

Speaker 13 (41:01):
Who would you replace him in the top five?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
I'm fine with Tyler going down to six if I'm
keeping their order and just bumping where games should be.
I'm not mad at the top five if it's no
matter the order. Kendrick Snoop ice Cube, Doctor Dre Game.
I think that is a very fair, fair top five.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Okay, before we do that, what is the criteria?

Speaker 5 (41:21):
We're just talking.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
It's complex, so you never get one.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Okay, So we don't know what the criteria is.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Because as much as I hate beatots list, at least
he puts a criteria at the bottom and says it's
because of these things. Complex is just throws shit out
and makes us all argue without any context, no context,
and complex is what happens every.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Time they know that we're gonna do what we're doing
on our platform and dissect this list and keep saying
complex over and over and over.

Speaker 14 (41:45):
Exactly, we stuck to three core principles when sorting our ranking.
This is coming from complex skill as a hip hop artist,
strength of a catalog, commercial impact, and lasting influence. They
say by skill they mean the entire rat package, delivery, presence,
pen game, overall artistry. They're focusing strictly on rappers, so
while artists like Nate dogget Ti, Dallas and an iconic

(42:06):
LA artists their fundamentally singers, not rappers, So hip hop skill,
strength of a catalog, commercial impact, and lasting influence.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
If you're focusing just on rappers and skill, then is
Doctor dre An Easy allowed on the list as they
do not write their own raps and have both admitted that,
and it's like I'm fine with it, I'm I don't
really care. They made incredible music and are the two
probably biggest icons in the LA rap scene. Ever, but

(42:35):
if you're going off skill of rapping, off their criteria,
not mine. Well, but doctor dre and Easy, are they
allowed to be on the list.

Speaker 14 (42:43):
Yes, because they explain that by skill they mean the
entire rap package, delivery, presence, pen, game, and overall artistry.

Speaker 13 (42:50):
It takes more to be a rapper than But if.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
You're you're taking out one complete pillar where every other
person on this game is the biggest that's.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Artists on here would cover every single pillar period those two.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
An entire pillar is gone, yeah, gone gone?

Speaker 5 (43:09):
And the pillar if the pen is the pillar. Like
as a rapper, that's what you have. You have your
pen as your sword.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Like if you want to talk about the two most
important people in LA rap history dre and Easy, And
I'm fine with that, But if you're going off that criteria,
I don't know if doctor Dreyan Easy you are allowed
on this list.

Speaker 13 (43:24):
I think they're allowed on the list. I just don't
think they should be as.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Far up game.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Not in the top ten is crazy. I mean that's
that's to me.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
We could just talk about that, Hey, take out the
pillar shit and it should be Kendrick snoop icequ dre
and Game for sure.

Speaker 13 (43:38):
I don't know LA politics. I'm not from over there.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Is there? Just like, do they hate Game?

Speaker 14 (43:45):
Because I feel like he's so disrespected by LA but
so uplifted by New York in other places.

Speaker 13 (43:51):
So that's why is it a thing?

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Or I mean Game, I wouldn't ever discredit what he
was doing in the Bay and in LA before he
broke with G Unit. But I mean why I think
Jimmy even put him with G Unit outside of Gunit
being on fire at the time.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Is that he sounded and rapped like he was from
New York.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Of course he sounds like he's from LA, don't get
me wrong, the way his delivery and lyrical content when
he was on clue tapes, If he didn't constantly say
where he was from, I wouldn't immediately believe that he
wasn't from New York. I think he's even talked about
that he rapped like he was from New York, and
I think that's probably why we all gravitated to him
so much. And I think the record that made him

(44:35):
pop per se was what the Jim Jones certified G's
or whatever, which I mean has yeah, yeah, which has
LA aspects. But he was with Jim Jones when the
world was really introduced to him, not just LA. So
I think New York has always had a better appreciation
for Game than maybe the rest of the country.

Speaker 13 (44:56):
But I hear you.

Speaker 14 (44:58):
But if that's the case, then Tyler the creator doesn't
always sound like he's an LA artist. He does sound
like he's an LA artist, but he doesn't always sound
like he he He definitely led.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
The newer generation of LA. They call it weird.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I wouldn't call it weird, but that separate, like this
isn't the stereotypical LA scene. He led that for sure,
which is where you get some of the new scene now.
But Game at the time, LA had been non existent
for quite some time. Game single handedly brought the West
Coast back and put a bunch of people on this list,

(45:34):
including the number one artist on their first mixtape on
their first tour, Nipsey everyone Like. Game not only did
that shit by himself, he brought a bunch of people
with him. He wasn't on some selfish it's just me
Like I remember Game mixtape shit when kay Dot was
on it. He was meeting with top with the j
rock shit like Game. If he's not top five The

(45:56):
only other way he could be was higher. Yeah, Vince
State was an.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
M betweenty three is pissing me off. Let me just
go ahead and say it. He needs to be a
lot higher.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Say the pillars again.

Speaker 14 (46:09):
The pillars are skill like total skill, strength of a catalog,
commercial impact, and lasting influence.

Speaker 13 (46:16):
And I think number three might be.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
The commercial impact.

Speaker 13 (46:20):
Yeah, might be what's keeping him?

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Who has all right, look at the people ahead of
Vince and who has more commercial impact than him, who
has a better catalog in.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Him catalog is you're gonna be tough? Yeah, school Boy
does have a great catalog.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
YG does.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
Yeah, I love Dom Kennedy. He's not above Vince Staples.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Some could argue with commercial appeal and Vince Stables Tom
has a great catalog.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
Vince Staples has a great catalog, and he has an
adult flick show fair that's not commercial.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
But they're focusing on the rabbit.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Come on, man, Vince needs to be high in that.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I appreciate Nipsey being at ten outside of him just
being above the game, which is kind of nice. If
Nipsey does not pass, is he at number ten? Lasting influence?
I fully understandless deal with what's standible. I mean over
game is insanity, but even over YG game, Nipsey respectfully, Yeah,

(47:25):
I got to go to LA in a couple of days.
I'm not suggesting that Nipsey does not belong on this
list whatsoever. He has hit every criteria there. But I
don't know if against YG with everything, if that, if
we're going off what they said, not off what the
allure of everything is to the public.

Speaker 14 (47:43):
So we've had this conversation before when people say that
j Z wouldn't be ja Z if Biggie had never died.
But we'll never know because Biggie died, right, So we'll
never know if people would have if the mass majority
of America would have noticed how talented Nipsey was because
he was severely underrated before he passed, they wouldn't have.

(48:03):
We don't know if they would have eventually figured that out.
They could have eventually figured that out. He could have
had a hit that went off, everybody went back to
his catalog and said, oh my god, Nipsey has been
one of the greatest for so long. That could have happened,
or he could have continued to be underrated. We will
never know because he did die.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Of course, and let me be clear, I think the
Victory Lap album was the one that was going to
start his rise. I think that's when he finally got
the recognition, commercial recognition that he deserved. He was about
to be the intro of a Kalide album. Like Yeah,
Nipsey was on his way for sure. I'm not saying
because he passed, that's when everyone started to give a fuck.
So I'm not saying that whatsoever. But over somebody like

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Game and YG by those criterias is a little crazy
to me, even school Boy, if we're going to get
into it. As far as the older acts, I saw
Punch tweet something I wish they do it in eras.
I agree with him because it is very tough to
compare Corrupt to Vince Staples. It's just completely different times

(48:59):
and like it's it's odd. I don't even know how
you would go about this. I also don't even know
how you put a list like this together to begin with.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
But you know, chat GBT, chat GBT, you know how
to put it together.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Man, if we're going off skill alone, the fact that
Blue is at forty nine is insane. The fact that
Crooked Eyes at forty six is nuts.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Will I am.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I think most of his impact did not come from
anything RAP related whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
I thought ras cast was from the Bay. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
I could be wrong. I don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
With this list.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Dragiel ruler for impact. Everyone in LA raps like him.
You could make a case that he could be a
little higher when it comes to impact.

Speaker 13 (49:48):
L A gonna kick our ass because they probably gonna
be like, no, you're wrong.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
You're fucking wrong.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
All of LA was saying they were wrong. I mean shit,
Game Game included then Game put his own list together.
Game did put his own list together, which is such
a game thing to do. And I appreciate when Game
does stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
They got Game outside the top ten, which is crazy.

Speaker 13 (50:06):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 14 (50:07):
And that's what I'm saying, Like it feels disrespectful. And
that's why I'm wondering if there's like an underlying issue before.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
We get to games. Is it weird that Tupac is
left off when people like Iced Tea corrupt who's from
Philly but of course moved to LA and that's where
he made his career. Exhibit is from like Detroit, New Mexico,
like literally not from La whatsoever from Albuquerque, Like when

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you have people like that on there, but then say
Tupac isn't there, I can see why that would upset people,
even though Tupac maybe lived in LA for like form,
I think I've lived in LA longer than Tupac did,
like I've stayed at the Mandrian longer, and I always
felt like Tupac if he was claiming the West Coast
was more of the Bay than he was Los Angeles.

Speaker 14 (50:58):
So they talked about as well, and in the article
they say that this putting together putting this list together
wasn't easy. La as a transplant town. So what qualifies
someone as an LA rapper? They said, for this list,
it's an artist who creatively came to life in the
city and reflects its ethos and their music.

Speaker 13 (51:15):
That's why some big names didn't make the cut.

Speaker 14 (51:17):
Tupac may seem like an LA rapper, but he only
lived in the city for a couple of months. Although
he had some big hits under the deth Ro banner,
he was a fully formed, platinum selling artist by the
time California Love came out. So I think why they
left some transplants on there and not Tupac. Is it
because is because Tupac was already a fully formed artist
before he moved to LA whereas the rest of them

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came up in LA.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
So I feel like that's fair, not terribly mad at that.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
And again, if it was California, I'd be fine with
Pac there because he spent so much time in the
Bay and that's where he started his rap career for real,
was in Oakland, Yeah, Marine County.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
So all right, I'm not mad at.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
The left off the list. Why his first rap name
was MC new York.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
You can't have a rap on your top l a
list of all time and his first rap name was
MC new York.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Okay, but all right, it can't do that just because
you had a nickname. Like what find me the vinyl
press of the MC new York record? Like, yeah, that
was a thing he said somebody. He said that in
his head when he got to Baltimore. Like, that doesn't
mean that was your rap name. I mean you can't
find an EMC New York song.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
So now you're saying, now you're telling Tupac what his
rap name was. See, that's what you white people do history,
no matter what, even when we're telling you.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
I fully, fully disagreed with what his mother was doing
and everything.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Like I'm just saying he said his rap name was
MC New York.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Yeah, but you can have a name because you can't
find a vinyl with two because he didn't recording music
under that exactly what I'm just saying.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
That maybe that might be what Complex was, Like, Nah,
we can't do.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
That, Okay, but based off what they're saying about exhibit Corrupt, Yes,
those guys moved to LA and that is what started
their rap.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
I'm sure Corrupt was rapping.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
When he was in Philly when he was a kid,
but you can't find those So I'm fine with that criteria.
Tupac got to the Bay, got with Digital Underground and
was Tupac. He wasn't EMC New York with Digital Underground,
he was Tupac. So I don't think it's because that
was his name. I think it was because he really,
honestly spent like six months in LA. He wasn't like

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really there.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
He was with a gang from there, So where is
he from?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I think Pawk is one of those hybrids that just
moved around. That's one of those people you can't really
say where they were from. I think that's why he
like not not like click hopped, but he did.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah don't.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I don't think he ever really had a place that
he could call home. That's why he rode for death
Row so much, because he finally found a group of
people that he could like also had his back. He
went from New York to Baltimore, to fucking Marin, to Oakland,
then to jail, then the fucking l A and in Vegas.
I think that was just his mentality was with different

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gangs like he just he never had a place that
he could call home.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
I mean, these lists are always interesting though, because you know,
just just just hearing the conversations going on around the
people that's on people that maybe should have been on there.
Ah trump Is the song is hard, Yeah, that ship
pretty for the production is crazy. That's one of those
I want to hear, Like, I want to hear a
few rappers take that and do something to that.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah, that would be if this was still the freestyle era,
there'd be twenty radio freestyles right now over that ship.

Speaker 13 (54:35):
They've been asking us to get on it.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Who's us?

Speaker 13 (54:37):
Me and Rory?

Speaker 5 (54:38):
Who's asking for that? Whose days you gotta stop saying
it new hurry of moment.

Speaker 14 (54:45):
Nobody play off of our back that we did when
we immercenated, when we impersonated push Up. They've been asking
for us to jump on so Rory, we gotta we
gotta do that this week. Yeah, Ballerina's doing perrottas my
snow globe is something I would have said.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
There's not nothing you would have said. There's absolutely nothing
You've never said that. You've never said nothing close to that.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
When I heard When I heard nas Rewind, I was like, oh,
I would have done that too. No, when talking about
you never said anything I would have. I would have
approached the p s A beat the same way.

Speaker 13 (55:18):
J He like what I'm just saying, That's something I
would have said.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
That bar is crazy. Malice went fucking off on this record.

Speaker 14 (55:24):
Niggas is my son said. That's not repeat. Definitely something
I would have said. But yeah, Malice went crazy and
he didn't cursey his entire time. He's bringing real hip
hop back, Real hip hop.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
Okay hit.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I feel like they even cursed the rappers the like
only only Will Smith didn't curse in his reps Broken
Vals everywhere. That's explicit content for sure. Yeah, no, that
was crazy talking about snow Globe shit too.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I really loved the record. I was a little nervous
with the whole Chad and Pharrell thing. Of course, we
know Farrell has produced plenty of shit by himself, but
that was a thing coming up to this, Like, all right,
we're getting a Farrell produced Clips album again, but there
is no Chad involved in this.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
I'm not mad so far. He's one.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
For one, Farrell is probably the best. Him and Swizz
are the best at making the most simplistic beats sound incredible.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Yeah, this, No, the production on this on this record
is incredible.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Like, I like this record a lot, like the approach
and pockets that they both picked. I'm really really excited
for this album.

Speaker 13 (56:30):
What's your favorite uh, lyric? Are your favorite bar?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
It's the snow Globe shit for sure. But the Ali
Baba to the Lady Gaga ship was insane to me too.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
I mean it's people on line to say malice he
got pushed on this one, but.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
That's not I mean, Push got way better posts the
Clips with his solo career.

Speaker 13 (56:55):
Malice was always let's not act like.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Back in the day, no one was ever discrediting Push
as a but Malice was always like the one Push
would get him a few times. But I feel like
Pushes even admitted that his brother was the better rapper.
Push just got much better with his solo career. So
I'm really excited to see this one. But I feel
like Malice got pushed on his last solo project. Malice

(57:19):
Versus was one of my favorite verses of that year.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, twenty twenty two or whatever, Malice is malice though,
like no.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
No, no, listen, I'm very aware of The Clips, one
of my favorite groups, and this you know production with Pharrell.
It's definitely you know, it's good to see them still
working together. And then the thing I'm most suppressed of
is how long they've been at it and how good
they still sound like that's it to me. That's like,
you know, when you say this rapp is a young

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man's sport to a degree, yes, but when you have
you know, the Clips and Pharrell still able to deliver
and give us joints that sound like this, it ain't
no to me. It's no really, it's no, young no
Wyans can't give us this sound, They can't give us
this talk. They can't. They're not even this clever or

(58:07):
this this witty in their in their bars and the
entendres and things like that, Like this is the type
of rap that you know, a certain sector I think
appreciates in the community.

Speaker 13 (58:18):
You gotta learn how to read. You got to learn
how to read. You got to learn how to travel,
and you got.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
To learn how to travel, drug deal learn how to know.

Speaker 14 (58:26):
But this isn't I'm talking about rapping. It's not just
about they're not just rapping about drugs. They had to
have read books, seeing things, experience things for your vocabulary
to open up. This why for you to be able
to make references about things from other countries. And yeah,
you gotta travel, you gotta make money, you gotta read
and even if you don't have the money, you gotta
read about the places that you can't travel.

Speaker 13 (58:46):
Reading is fundamental. And these new rappers don't read.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
They can't read read, they can't even talk.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Have you heard some of these new artists, like in
the interview.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Yo, you feel me, feel me, feel me, feel me,
feel me, feel me, feel me.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Nigga, No, I can't feel a thing.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Film me, feel me, fil me, feel me feel me?
Bro Yo, bro, Bro, this is a female you're sitting
across from. It's a woman. You know, film me, bro, bro, Bro, Bro,
you know what I'm saying, Bro Bro, I mean time,
what time? Get your dumb ass up and shut up.

Speaker 13 (59:19):
But that's because there there on the drug drugs. They're
not selling the drugs.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
They're on drugs. They're selling drugs. They're on the drugs
and they're selling more.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
They selling the.

Speaker 14 (59:26):
Drugs today, friends their friends selling them back. They just
doing like drug fucking switches, drug musical chairs, drug musical chairs.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Like let me hold that pill just sold, same way?
Can I that chain for this video? Let me let
me get just to the perks.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
Now, give me those two perks that just sold you.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
And I mean, labels don't even have the staff to
do media training that's been done. Everyone that used to
get FAB a lot of bullshit. Fab wasnt media training.
He's not good at interviews. The FAB smokes looks like
Einstein compared to it's bad.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
It's bad like they I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
He's Neil de grass Tyson compared to this.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
Yeah, like these these these new artists, these young a
lot of these young casts. They I mean, it's just like,
my god, like you can't even hold a conversation. It's sad,
but you know it's good to hit the clip still
in shape. I'm looking forward to hearing what else they
got on this project. If it sounds anything like this
Ace trump is joint, then you know this is gonna

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be a good listen for me. Like I appreciate this
type of nostalgia and this type of this type of
attention to detail when you talk about rapping.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I appreciate this, and I feel like Push, Malice and
Ross even though there's a million on tendras in this
Ace of Trumpets record, those three rappers, to me, are
the best at saying very simple things and delivering it
in a way that sounds so amazing. Soho shopping Spring
you should have seen it. It's not even that crazy,

(01:00:48):
but I was. I'm like, I was just on Broadway.
How I missed that shit? You should have seen it?
How do you deliver it that good? Like as be
saying some really basic shit, but it sounds better than
all of your favorite rappers when they do complex shit. Pusher,
Malice and Ross are masters at this type of shit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
The very simple delivery.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
You catch every word you may not catch the endra,
but you catch every single syllable word.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
It all sounds amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
The delivery and rap is very important.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Like push as an elite MC. Still where were you
and big niche brought the tigers? Like he has more
memorable stuff like that on top of his entendres that
separates him to me from everyone else. Like they not
doing rappy rap rap rap. They found a very specific
fun fun pocket, a fun pocket that a lot of
people could fuck up like that could get tiresome for

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thirty two bars.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
They are masters at that type of shit.

Speaker 14 (01:01:46):
But see that's why going back rosses to it that
going back to when we were talking about our complex
list and they said skill and the majority of the
pillars of skill only one of them was actual pen.
The rest of it was delivery. The way that you
break it down, like that's a very very important thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Easy as one of the best deliveries ever. Even Dre's
delivery is incredible. That fucking the horrible line if if
I slipped, and I slipped and I'm slipping, I'm still slipping,
awful fucking bar delivered incredibly that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
Ship hit back in the day. Still it's not And
if I got my Nina and then you know shit,
and I'm gonna continue to put the down, put the mac.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Down, snoops fan was crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
I did see we spoke last episode that there was
rumblings about Kendrick Verse from before and then we thought
because of the rock Nation situation that they may have
a jay Z Verse. I saw that stove God tweeted
that he is on the album. We know there's only
two features, so I do not think we're getting a
jay Z feature on this. I believe it is stove God,

(01:02:52):
which is confirmed, and I think that Kendrick feature from
Chains and Whips when they did the Lousvitan fashion show that,
like Jim Jones dis that was the one that Kendrick
was rumored to be on, and then we never heard
anything from it. Push a t went and did an
interview and said that they wanted to put this out
last year, but when they brought it to Death Jam,

(01:03:15):
this was right after the Drake and Kendrick beef and
they wanted Kendrick to more or less censor his verse
because of everything that was going on. Push said fuck
that they got into some legality shit, which led to
the clips getting off Deaf Jam as well as push
a t getting off deaf Jam. Oh wow, because of
this entire thing, and they were able to shop it

(01:03:36):
around and that's why there was a delay. Now, I'm
sure there's always a bunch of different things behind the
scenes that added to this, but that is kind of
fucking insane. Yeah, And according to push or this article,
I believe the bar isn't even that crazy. From Kendrick
therapy taught me how to open up. It also showed

(01:03:57):
me I don't give a up. I don't think it
was the bars per se that they wanted to censor.
I think it was def Jam saying Drake's two biggest
ops are coming together at this exact time to put
a record out, which kind of I don't know. Do
you think it contradicts or helps the lawsuit that Drake
is going through.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
Why would it contradict it or help it that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
I guess this would be proof that they were aware
of his brand and also wanted to protect it in
the midst of this entire thing which could go against it,
but couldn't a lawyer also prove that they were very
much aware when they said that they support both of
their artists and they would never stop an artist from

(01:04:43):
doing anything. This does contradict what Universal said already. Sure,
it does prove what Drake's lawyers were saying. And UMG
was like, what, we would never that's crazy. We would
never get behind in ours. We don't treat any artist
with any type of special privileges or anything. But even
though this is on Drake's side, it still is proving
that that does happen.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
Yeah, but we know that even if this didn't it,
this never came out of push, It never made any
mention of this happen, and we know that that does happen.
I just I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Pushing to me is not a liar. I just think
there has to be more to this than just this sentence.
Because why after a record that calls somebody on your
label that word, would you be upset about or try
to block a clips in Kendrick's song that doesn't talk
about Drake whatsoever?

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Like the damage was done? This would this wasn't gonna
do anything? What was the bar? The only bar that
they mentioned?

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
All right, I'll def jamsparen Comy, UMG said the optics
of two of Drake's biggest enemies linking on wax Push
calls their apprehension stupid, primarily because none of the bars
and Kendricks otherwise excellent verse could be perceived as a
shot or even a sub. It does, however, contain the
stellar line. Therapy taught me how to open up. It
also showed me I don't give.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
A fuck.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
What that's fucking stupid, push Up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I actually love the writing this push it can barely
contain his disgust, recounting the stalemate with def Jam. They
wanted me to ask Kendrick to censor his verse, which
of course I was never doing, and then they wanted
me to take the record off, and so after a
month of not doing so, their lawyer said, well, we'll
drop the Clips, but they can't do that because I'm
still there as a solo artist. If you let us
all go, this is that an order? Sure enough, def

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Jam eventually agreed to release the Clips and drop Push
as a solo artist, freeing the duo up to shop
for a new home with a finished Clips album and
plenty more music in their pockets.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Yeah, I think that was just uh, I mean, could
it be a thing where they just felt like the
song wasn't good?

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
That chains and Whip song was Fire. It was premiered
at the Lois Vuitton fashion show in Paris. That was
the one that Jason Beyonce. You could see they was
writing lyrics in their head to it, like that record
is fire. It's like leak now that not you know,
the highest version of it, but you can listen to
it on YouTube now. And it was rumors at that

(01:07:08):
time Kendrick was already on it. They just didn't play
his verse in Paris. Now that record is that record
isn't too five. I think that that's I don't. I
don't understand any of that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
I understand why why def Jam would even I mean,
if he's not even mentioning Drake in the in the verse,
why would you even ask push it to have it,
to have Kendrick since it like, I don't.

Speaker 14 (01:07:29):
To me to assume no matter what, Because of the
time it was coming out, people would assume everything in it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
Okay, that's fine, people can assume whatever. But for the
label to go to push it and say, yo, like
tell Kendrick not.

Speaker 7 (01:07:40):
What like that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Just to me, that's just okay conspiracy. Did they already
have some type of worry that Drake was going to
sue them or heard rumblings after the beef that that
would happen, and now they're trying to cover their ass
because this would be another point, not to say it
proves anything, but something you can put in the paperwork
of these are two people that have said very disparaging

(01:08:03):
things about me. You're now releasing a record they have
together and putting money behind it. I could see Drake's lawyers.

Speaker 13 (01:08:09):
It could have been added as a little byline in
the lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Not to say that that like really does anything, I
think in Drake's lawsuit because it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
They didn't say anything about him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
But I think I don't know if does it add
more fuel, Like I feel like major corporations, when there's
a possibility they could even be sued down to like
the smallest sample that could be debatable, they're gonna say
no just to cover their ass, like legal teams do.
They don't even want to hear the music. They don't
even give a fuck about anything art related. They're just

(01:08:39):
there to say no. So I could maybe see that
being a thing because they were already heard possible litigation
rumors of what was going on. It's like, we really
can't do this even though I don't think that's really illegal, Matt, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
I just I don't know that's you know, def Jam
doing that is just that's just that seems a little weird.
That's that's no, that's very weird. Actually not a little.
That's very weird for them to approach push it and
just doesn't make no sense, like especially if the line
he's not talking about him, not going at him and
any type. It just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
I mean, but if that's the case, like amazing to
get off the label that way.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
Oh no, I mean I'm sure you know they're happy
about it, you know, like oh shit, like we basically
got a free walk, like we're out of here. But
it's just I don't know, it just doesn't make I
feel like it's more to that story.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
That's just that That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
I'm not saying saying it's false. I just there has
to be more, has to be more to that. It
has to be That makes no sense to me, because.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
What are you censoring in the verse exactly, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
It just like I don't know, maybe he's just trying
to not trying to really get into it and you
know whatever. But that part of the story to me
is it has to be more that that makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Well, I mean between Chains and Whips, I assume now
that they're all def jam that song is definitely coming
out with that Kendrick verse.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
And then we also have the stove Gode feature. So
there's our two features.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
I think there was a I think there's another feature though.
I think the feature you were alluding to what they
were saying, Uh what Pushy was saying, He's waiting for
the feature. M you saying that you think it's a
whole feature. I think nads Okay, I think a NOAs.
I think a NAS verse may be on this album.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Well, they kind of alluded to it in this article
as well. The label love what they heard, except for
the Kendrick Lamar guest verse on Chains and Whips, the
final version of the song that Frailties at his first
LV Runway show. The song, Pushes says was the first
to come out of their sessions. Don't be fooled by
Pushes interviews appealing for one last guest verse, and the
twitter jokes that he went to a GNX toward day

(01:10:53):
to physically walk Kendrick into the nearest studio. Katt's homework
has been turned in for a while now, so I
think that's still coming out, as is the changing whips thing.
Oh yeah, And they said there was two features, so
a nas one would be fire. But if they're sticking

(01:11:14):
of that, I think we're only getting Stoven Kendrick.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
This Stove, God, that feature is gonna be because listen, man,
it's not too many that could talk that, you know. Yeah,
that went to talk that snow white talk like.

Speaker 13 (01:11:29):
Stove in like I am about to make a hundred
thousand next, No.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Now you want to Now you want to be Stove.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
Now you she's about to go We were calling her
Stove missus stovey through she got mad.

Speaker 14 (01:11:42):
So that was her a like okay, because yeah, because
y'all are making fun of Like it's funny when y'all
do it from like people who aren't from my hometown,
Like that's it's not funny.

Speaker 13 (01:11:50):
But yeah, I always support Stove. Were about to flip
some ship.

Speaker 14 (01:11:53):
Boy, I'm about to make a hundred thousand, I swear
to god, I'm about to go crazy. It's about to
be the most motivated song of all time.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
But the I was doing what lashes. We'll do one
hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
She's gonna date a drug dealer that buys her the
last spot.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
No, you know they can't wait to get that boy
in my studio, pay my boo frint.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Push that he might date. I'll bench and yank or
rib out. Push is gonna do everything for.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Our girl.

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
Day chap bitch and pull her rib out, yank.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Or rib out, like buy her new body? You know?
Like is that what that meant?

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
That's how I interpreted, Yes, unless you thought more romantic.
And he was suggesting like an Adam and Eves, like
there she her rib now.

Speaker 13 (01:12:34):
Or she does so much coke that she just gives
real skinny. But I think he meant surgery.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
Yeah, I don't want that girl that does too much
coke that she's skinny now.

Speaker 14 (01:12:41):
But were about to flip a brick. Why the head
is crazy? Her back, her throat always numb.

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
And dry, cotton mouth. I'm cool this stove.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
God, buy a bitch some new hips and yank or
rib out. Yeah, imagine pushed by by your chicks some hips.
Then you come home and there's a rib on the counter.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
Get a body done it. Yeah, I'm looking forward to
that Stove feature. Though I'm looking forward to that. I
got to hear, I got to hear. The greasy talk
on that stove is one of the few that I
feel like probably when it comes to that type of talk,
may be just a little slicker than pushing malage.

Speaker 13 (01:13:18):
Oh shit, that's that's you. Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
Yeah, Like, if you go and listen to a reasonable drought,
there's not many people that could. I was very impressed
by Stove God on that entire project, like his his cleverness,
his wittiness when it comes to that type of again,
that that certain talk is. I'm not saying he did it,
but he had to. He was in the house when
it happened.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
He was.

Speaker 5 (01:13:43):
I'm not I'm not putting on him.

Speaker 11 (01:13:45):
I ain't.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
I'm not doing that because niggas is listening. I'm not
saying he did anything, but he may have been around,
because you can't just talk like that and not have
been in close proximity.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Yeah, And the amount of like coke entendres we've heard
of the last time the years. To be able to
like really revive that genre takes a clever type of person.
I feel like I've heard every coke bar on Earth
and then reasonable Drought came out and I was like, oh, like.

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
What he said, it's what you do after the brick bitch,
I'm Draymon. Niggas don't even talk like. You can't even listen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Listen, listen.

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
No, I'm being serious right now. I'm not even trying
to cause no jokes, no laughs. It's what you do
after the brick bitch, I'm Draymond. Niggas don't rat. They
don't talk like that. You can't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
These rappers are not even they they wi Fi, they bandwidth.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Don't even let them go that to that, like, you
don't even talk like that, Like that's to me, that
type of slick. You know, those lines is what separates
Stole from everybody else. But to have him with guys
like you know, Malice and Push who do that very well,
it's just gonna be interesting to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
And I need to know.

Speaker 5 (01:14:54):
Rappers etiquette. I need to know if Pushing and Malices
verse was done first and after Stove has sent his
verse that they.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
No way you saying that, And I hope so, I
hope so, I hope we keeping.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I think there's a world where Stove gets them, for sure,
I'm saying out of like pushing malice, not chanck.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Theyre probably just gonna sit there like that. I hope not.
I hope they kept it raped, keep it rated. You
don't want you hand it okay.

Speaker 14 (01:15:21):
So as a rappers etiquete, all right, that's rappers etiquette.

Speaker 13 (01:15:24):
You can't change your verse.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
Can't change your verse after I send my zen, because
if I send my verse in and then that a
song come out and your balls is different than when
I got it, we're gonna have a real problem now.
It's like, I don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
No,

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