Episode 379 | Iceman Got A Bomb - New Rory & MAL

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Speaker 2 (00:35):
The volume.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Willie in the Moon and the Moonhoun, she can move
down the drive and it doesn't drive.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
That does to a set of us.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, yeah, she playing a lottery with the kiddy, don't
end up doing t Yeah, but the way that they
put out the side man swe does see two medions
on a free kick, set up the camera, let's make
a free take competition and put the bits in the
sweet sticks.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Baby you know, said baby Houston Houst. What's up baby?
Not baby d that's Maris. I I posted a fly.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
I don't really know who Maris is. I know I
know Demarius, I don't know who Maris is. I know
who Baby D is.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
People very close to me call me Maress.

Speaker 7 (01:25):
Okay me, y'all ain't really on the first nickname basis
like that, y'all know my work.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
We're not on the first nickname basis. Me and Rory
are not on first nickname base my work.

Speaker 7 (01:34):
Name, and y'all know my government name. Y'all don't know
what like the streets called me.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
You act like it's all you did was take away
at d n E.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's what you did.

Speaker 7 (01:43):
It's different, that's all you did. Got a different energy,
they different street code.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
They only know that, yo, Baby D. So how was
your first of all? It's good to see you, see Josh.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
How you doing on a party fly? I mean, yo,
y'all don't know about it? Secret?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, obviously we were. We were going.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
We were in La working for beats what shout out
to everybody. Then came out to the BT media room,
got to see some friendly faces, old and familiar.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
And some people were asking where the Maras was and
we were like, oh, she was in the budget chair
right there.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
For took out her gig. Yeah, she went to burgers
and bottles. It's sure enough. While we in La. You know,
I'm going through you know, the phone, and that's sometimes
I've seen the DMC what they saying, cursing me out
whatever I see? Yo, baby did out here burgers and bottles,
looking like something going crazy on? Like what they're like, Yeah,
y'all got to get her from around that desk. I
was like, what baby with you with? First of all,

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what was you wearing?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I had on?

Speaker 7 (02:34):
I had on my god Peach Design designed me a shirt.
I had a shirt that said baby D on it
with my little doll. You guys know about about my doll.
And I just had on some some Levi's shorts that
Levi you know, cut for me.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
And at some point, no, why I feel that at
one point when I saw you doing cartwheels in the
end zone, I felt like it was a different outid.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
No, it was short shorts and a crop top.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Okay, shorts and the crop. BABYD was thinking about that
outfit all week and she was juicing. You know, it
is juice. And I said, your baby, go ahead, man,
you're gonna squeeze.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Ye little ass.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
And that thing.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
She took chat GTT as a trainer and it works, okay, bab.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
So you had fun at burgers and bottles. I was.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I had the ball.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
The event went off without a hitch. It was It
was perfect. It was absolutely perfect.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
I was the weather held up.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
No, it rained a little bit, but niggas had umbrellas.
We didn't care like we were having a ball.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
And you weren't bottles, you know, ga either you were
under the stage.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Yeah. But I went out.

Speaker 7 (03:39):
I went out and was when I could touch the people.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I went out, shut in touch to people, took
some photos.

Speaker 7 (03:45):
I went out when I could, and you know, I
saw a couple of new Rory and Mow fans there.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
They were very sweet.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
They saw you too. They let me know, this is
why we're talking about this. They let me their tickets.
They let me know that you were.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
You know that you were, you were in the building
and attendance, and that you were very sweet.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
You were very nice and.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Said, okay, baby do you were out there? She holding the
flag high, she doing her thing.

Speaker 7 (04:07):
We had a good time. You guys gotta definitely come
next year. Rory was supposed to be there with me
this year, but E t weekend.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I definitely went.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
If we weren't a bet, yeah, I had I had
a ball. Y'all seen me krt willing through the field.
I had a ball, you know. I'm here to tell
y'all know for everybody that go to burgers and bottles
that there's the women have been.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
The women have thighs.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
And I didn't know it was burgers, bottles and thighs though, Baby,
I just thought it was burgers and I don't see
a burger all bottle.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah. What's funny is I had a woman that Demaris
sort of recently met so doesn't know her that well,
and saw one of these photos and said, I see
Demarus is doing the red hair thing. And I was like, listen,
you don't know red hair, man, you don't know that
was a different That's when I met to Mary. That
was a different era. That's blood, baby. I didn't she
saw the photo before I saw it, and I thought

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to myself, mediate like, wait, they unleashed redheaded debarrass at
that part.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
He was thought that he was a blood that's Rory.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
No, Rory, I had to Rory.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
Alex came to me the next day. Alex came to
my house.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
She said, you need to take that fucking red hair
out immediately.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, it was times, but you electing, you was cutting up, baby,
what you was doing just a different person.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's why you don't know where toxic situation ship like
for sure.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
And then I come in here, you singing mariahs Mariah scientists,
blue burning Blue. That's all you've been singing for the
past twenty seven minutes. Like I know what that means.
What's his name? Where he's from? Live in Brooklyn?

Speaker 6 (05:33):
Don't kiss me off.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I'm sorry, I know what that means.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
My bad, you doc Queen's nigga queens.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
There's no there is nobody there's he could have been Vernon.
You never know, there is nobody there.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
You put somebody from the Vernon, not money earning.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
You ain't me somebody in money earning Mount Vernon, baby,
d Now we're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Please. He definitely lied like Denzel mount his street.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, history sign is yeah. You know what they got
the local jo, they got the brown streets.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
So yo.

Speaker 7 (06:08):
Anyway, the event went off, Well, these women do these
things where they walking up the niggas and like dapping
up the tens. Let me tell you hold something. Next
year one of you bitches dap up my tin?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yo, Yo, what is happening right now?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
She just said she ain't meet nobody in money earned it.
You talk about somebody dap up my doves.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Alex was taking out that red hair because the red
hair demeris I know would not stand for that.

Speaker 7 (06:37):
Yo, dapping bitches? Was that I'm booking at videos? Bitches
dapping up to dap up my ten next year and
barn sure Berger's and bottles.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Why you ain't dapping first?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Then?

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah, you're supposed to take your dom and put them
in your pocket going on, that's your problem.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
We had a ball, we had we had a we
had a great grandle time.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'm glad you shout out to Yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
It was over five thousand people there at the even
went off out a hitch other than some people shaking
the burning Blue.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
At one point everything shaking the burning blue.

Speaker 7 (07:05):
Niggas was shaking the burning Blue. I said, what the
fuck is going on?

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Everybody just cheating? That's why anybody cheating and lying to
each other. That's what it is. If y'all stop cheating
and lying to each other and life would be better.
You wonder why you stretched your face keep breaking out
in all kind of shit.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Y'all lying and cheating to each.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Other with phones in your hand anything can be captured. Yeah,
but I'm glad you had a good time, had a
good time when we were sitting at BT on Sunday.
That was what was keeping me entertained, was just her
ig story. And I'm in her close friends. So I
saw like some ass shaking video. Yo.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Why I'm not in your close friends, baby, d I'm yours.
I don't have a close friend.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
You think Mall is a close friends You think that.
I think you knows how to turn that on. Yeah,
like you think I have.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Close friends on this girl, I'm close friends.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
I close friends.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, I want to see what's going on. But I
did some creepy ship while we was at BT. So
she posted you screen recorded a close room. No, oh,
mentally that I did. Okay, she posted some woman shaking
ass in an amazing way, like she got on some
like director Spike Lee angles and ship like it was.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
It was.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, he could see cervix.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, it was a very very very well put together
video from both ends, all parties involved, no notes. I
thought it was great. I found myself then on her
I g story trying to match what the outfit of
that girl was so.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I can try to you was on your CS. You
was trying to.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Her her friends. I was like, all right, that girl
close friends. I was like, black tights, I can't see it.

Speaker 7 (08:40):
I just I just sent it to Josh. Josh could
pull it up. She won't mind y'all playing it on here, But.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
After having your close friends, she won't mind having.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
Any broadcast because people won't know who she is. They
won't really be able to find.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
They're going to go to the photo recap on Berger's
Boules website and fire. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, just like I used to go on this seven days,
seven nights.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Yo, finding acuties on seven days, seven nights.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Hit it, Josh.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Remember this is why I wasn't paying attention during being
team was okay? Yeah, then I was trying to find
her head scarf. Couldn't I couldn't find that the whole
play together, Okay, yeah, okay, then I'm just going through

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like America's followers.

Speaker 7 (09:27):
Yeah, but yeah, I did miss you guys and l A.
It was a couple of people y'all interview that was
pressing me, Like, Yo, where you at.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
A couple of people that we we're gonna get.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
To Rory No, but anyway, oh yeah that is true. Yeah, yeah,
a few.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
There was a few that was that was looking for
baby d not the interview.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Oh no, they were looking for something not Okay, I
get it, I get it. Well, before we get into it,
we want to send the rest in peace pres condolences
to the family of Ananda Luis. If you're an eighties
baby like myself, Ananda Luis was a big part of
the of the crib of the house coming home from school,
watching teen Summit, most a lot of shows on BT

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then obviously she was a VJ for t r L
had MTV. Ananda Lewis was probably one of my earliest crushes,
television crushes. I may have a post of Ananda Luis
on my locked in high school. That's you know was
she was just one of those TV personalities that every
boy just was in in love with. Beautiful, beautiful spirit,

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super talented. I had a chance to actually have a
conversation with her a couple of years ago and just
give her flowers and tell her how much you know,
she meant to me growing up and the shows that
she was hosting like it really kind of helped helped
growing up in New York as a kid. You know,
a lot of the shows on BT. And it was
funny because when we were interviewing people, I was asking
what are some of the earliest memories of BT, and

(10:49):
teen Summit was in video soul was probably some of mine. Yeah,
and then we get the news Tuesday that it was
a Wednesday Wednesday that no Lewis that's the way, So
rest in peace to Nonda Lewis, you know, again, just
a beautiful person, beautiful spirit, beautiful energy. Was definitely saddened

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to hear about her passion. And I'm pretty sure that
BT is gonna tribute and honor her in a very
special way because she was a.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Very big part of BT in a very early stages.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah. Absolutely, And while we were at the BT Awards,
Slidestone passed away as well.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yes, the legendary slid Stone.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Rest in peace changed the entire world. Yeah, it was.
It was definitely two back to back heavy losses surrounding
everything in music and BET to begin with. So, you know,
rest of peace and condolences to their family.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yes, it's I hope BT, you know, has the time
to properly do something for her. But yeah, it was
a it was a very BG weekend to say that, very.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
BT weekend, we were at Beat the BT Awards in
the media room once again. This year we got a
chance to have some conversations with a few people. Uh
saw a lot of old friends. Yeah, absolutely that we
haven't seen that I haven't seen in a minute. So
it was cool to see the people.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
And yeah, no, we're we're gonna get straight to the bullshit.
But right before we do that off Road featuring Massego
and Freddie Gibbs, second single for my second album out
right Now There you Go. Peach played it at the
beginning of the episode. Yeah, I feel like I always
forget to plug shit dig plug everyone else's ship.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah ship. And gotta gott a Heat Rock coming with
Vince Can I say that?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Sure? Okay, got it, he's independant. There's not a major stop,
all right, cool? Got a Heat Rock Coming with Vince
Staples was well. I was.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
I was honored and privileged enough to be invited to
a Rory studio session.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
You are a fly on the wall. I was a
fly on the wall.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
I was a fly on the wall, went out to
the to the studio. Rory had a session with Vince
in l a while we were there.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
That was my first was a podcast and it's no listen.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Anytime you in a room with Vince Staples, just prepared
to have a conversation that's gonna be funny, educational, insightful.
D Vince is just one of my favorite people for artists.
He's just one of my favorite people. Anytime I get
a chance to see Vince and kick it with him,
it's it's always fun. And I didn't have Vince's number,

(13:14):
so I showed them my phone. I had two old
numbers for Vincent. He sold those numbers, just started laughing.
He said, you know, I changed my number every month.
I'm like, I didn't know that, Vince, But thank you
for I'll just.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Get random yes this is yes, yes or random DMS
hey changing my number like he's one of those but.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
You gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta heat rock
coming with him. No, that's a really good record.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
I like that record.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Definitely excited about that. So it's a productive, productive week.
I mean, I feel like with the off Road record,
am I allowed to do the cheesy ship like, yo,
I think we got one?

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Is that the name of it? Off Road?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yes is the name of the record. Not with Vince. No, No,
it gives out now the summer record.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I'm a good record.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Dare I say? I mean it's probably song the summer already. Right,
it's been out for Yeah, it's been out for four hours.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
I met to this. It's it's been eighty eight degrees today.
I think your song set off to something that.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
It was raining all of May. It was when I
was trying to, you know, work with the labels to
put it out. It was raining the entire time. Now,
the moment it got cleared, son came up sunshine eighty
eight degrees beautiful today and pretty much the premise of
the day after tomorrow you set off.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
You started the summer with that record. Rory, you got
to take that credit.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
My father went through the snow from Philly to New
York to save the record. Yeah, and it ended Global Warming,
the stupidest fucking movie anyways. Off road available now. All
DSPs shot out to give the Missago. Thank you guys,
so so so much.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Sego happy birthday and Massago too. You celebrated a birthday
a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
A cool yeah, produced by child myself and my man Hawk,
who's an incredible horn player. He actually did the horns
like one of our live shows. So okay, yeah, you know,
excited about that one third single. Soon it's coming together.
But there was a lot of hey, yo, we need
to connect and get a session at the BET Awards.
I boy, did I small talk my fucking life away. Yeah,

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you know the first day. So I got there early,
early on the first day, just because we didn't know
what the setup was going to be, and you know,
wanted to make sure peage was good. I had some
equipment because we split, you know, that whole ship within
five minutes before anyone even got there. I went and
sat back in the car because I was tired of
small talking. I sat in a hot car instead of

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wanting to just talk to people.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Yeah, damn, well Berg said fake kicking it. What he said,
He like a lot of fake kicking it this weekend.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
The amount of time and like the amount of people
that just walk by and don't even ask you if
they can record your face.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, like just doing this Like no, But it was
a content We were in a content hub.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
It was a lot of interviews, and then there was
interviews away from the interviews, and then it was just
bts and it was everybody had a camera everybody had,
you know, some some some content to create. But I
like the you know we did this is our second
time doing it. I like the vibe of it though,
because it is it is fun to kind of have.

(15:57):
It's like, you know, media day at the Souper. You know,
everybody's in the room. You gotta kind of go around,
get an interviews, this, that and the third. But it's
a little different now because you know, through our platform world,
we've been able to make personal relationships and connections with people,
So it makes the interview thing kind of fun and cool.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
And a lot of things that happened relief from them too. Yeah, like, yeah,
I have a good tell me album.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
We're not trying to get nobody jammed up and no conversations,
just here to kick it bet weekend, here to have fun.
It was fun to have people walk past us we
were interviewing, yelling at us, saying what's up that we
actually didn't interview, but still, you know, show love.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
So it was cool. We had a good time in
the intermedia room.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Do you feel like cash Doll purposely skipped over us?
I just felt like she was busy. I feel like
she's in a relationship. Everything maybe that's like you know all,
she didn't. All relationships have rules like not nothing crazy,
but just some some things. You know, you may be
on that list.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Yeah, like you can't interview with niggas that want to
fuck you, bro.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Which I think is on her man's behalf. And I
think that's a very fair rule to have a relationship.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
When when did I ever say that you thought it though? Well,
I mean, you can't kill me from my thoughts, I
mean made you can kill me for what I say.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I didn't say.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
There's some things that you ever heard the term safe
to assume that when safe.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
That's a safety. Yeah, that's a safe safe assumption. Absolutely no,
she looked cash looked great. Didn't get a chance to
kick it with hell, but she looked great.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Let's just let's go with the elephant the roomant. I
forgot who we were finishing up recording with. I stood
up for a second and somebody tapped me on the
shoulder and said, hey, I got Ravon right over here,
would you? Isn't it out like that? He was out.
It's not an elephant like it's out. I know what
I want to give, Like the the behind the scenes
version of leading up to that, and I was like, yeah,

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of course, because even though you know, some things were said,
I never thought it was like any type of on
site situation.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
No, man, that was that was never the energy from
from us or from me. Never did energy. You know,
I understood what the whole situation was with the battle
and last the last year in hip hop, everybody picking
a side and then obviously the Joey Badass versus what
the Joey Badass twenty v one we can call it that,
even though you know, some guys from New York jumped

(18:15):
in and kind of expressed their opinions as well.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
But the raven one goes a bit deeper because that
that was before the entire battle, Like he was saying
shit on Twitter a year and a half ago when
the battle was happening. Yeah, that was just some odd stuff.
But when his manager said that to me, I was like, yeah, cool,
let me talk see Males okay with it, which I
figured you would have been.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
But I'll talk to anybody, man, I don't I'm not
one of those people that you know, I'm like, nah,
I'm not talking to Well, there's some people I will
never talk to.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
But Rayvaughn is not on that list. It never was.
But we had a good conversation off Mike before we
even sat down.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I could tell that all all parties energies were on
the same page of like, nobody really feels a way
right here.

Speaker 7 (18:54):
Man.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Listen, man, I don't think there's anybody that.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
Could ever take something I say like and really like,
you know, want to throw hands or get physical, because.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I'm just saying in general of like we took this
too far with words and this is going to.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Be like awkward. Yeah, no, I don't. I don't think
it was.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
We're trying to make them, Like with Ravon, someone is
trying to make a moment out of this to double
down on the disrespect and then it's like, all right,
what the fuck? Yeah, And I didn't get any of
that energy. We were obviously not with that energy.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
And never know, but after after meeting Ravon finally and
us having a conversation before we actually sat down and recorded,
it was the same.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
You know, It's the same everywhere. Man.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
You see guys that you have a little you know,
back and forth with online that doesn't go you know,
too far into disrespect. Ship talking is cool. I'm with
shit talking, but I never felt like it was like,
you know, too disrespectful. And then you know, once Ravon
walked up, it was laughs, it was DAPs, it was
you know, it's just it's raps man, It's just you

(19:55):
know what I'm saying. And I was like, I totally,
I totally get it. I totally understand. It's nothing but
respect for me. I understood the situation and the moment
I understood. You know, it was just that energy. It
was a very competitive, very I'm on this side, you
on that side type of thing, which is fine.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Like I think that we can have those moments and.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Have those those those those times where you know, we
have to pick a side, but still when we see
each other and we come together, it can still be respect,
it can still be love, It could still be a
great conversation. Like I think we need to remove that
aspect of you know, well, if you picked this out
or you said this about me, then when I see you,
it's on.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I mean, you just stupid. Do you feel like you
are the joy bad Ass of podcasting?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I feel like both of you guys were jumped by
the West Coast and you have been you know, confronting
healthy at that.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
I love what Ravon said to me. He said, you know,
I only said something to you because I respect you,
and yeah, but she.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Was also saying with the battle of like because I
think we asked him why he didn't reply to certain people.
He's like, well, I don't like respect their reps exactly,
so you're not reply. I understand it.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Man.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Again, I'm a little older than you know, you guys,
I've been around a few more summers than you, so
I understand when it's something that's really intense and really
you know, can be something crazy, and then when it's
just words and just you know, the moment, like, I
never felt any ill feelings towards Rayvon, you know I'm saying,
obviously I spoke to his talent before any of this,
with his LA League's freestyle. I still think he has

(21:16):
one of the best ones. And I never had no
ill feelings. I understood with the moment was he's tde
I get it. I totally understand. It was great to
finally meet him face to face and have a conversation
on and off Mike, and you know, we're looking forward
to having him here in the studio when he's in
New York next time.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Peg accused me of being a little chippy in the beginning,
like I was trying to start problems.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Well that's the white boy, and you love to see
black on black crime. I can't believe.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Nah, I was defending my man's who happens to be black?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Ally? Who's ally?

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, I mean Ray Ray's black two. Oh yeah, I
don't know if you notice, Yeah, I'm Moll's ally. I'm not.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Yeah, yeah no, But it was it was you know,
I understood what you were doing, but it was again,
let's get it all out. We're here, face to face,
let's talk about it. You tweeted this, Rayvaughon, you said
this in your ROMs. We said, baby box me.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
Up like a team movie, box up like packet see
me personally, it was a good bar. It was a
good bar out depressed, you know, y'all was cool.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Boxing like like what it was a bar?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
What?

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I don't wrap I talked, so I can't really. You know,
if I rap, I would have round a booth that night.
If I was a rapping Rayvons, I would have found
a booth that night.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
And you know what I'm saying. But we had a
conversation about.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
But then there's no win for losing in that situation
because you're in front of cameras in the BT media
room and it's like, all right, so you say you
can box me, and it's like we're doing this here,
like then you just look weird.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Regardless, that's a fun y'all, y'all know me a little
bit of that album.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Y'all would never if Rayvon sat down with aggressive energy,
I would have laughed and just looked at him like
I got cologne on it.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
We had BT, what are we doing, Like we're gonna
do this right here? Like come on, fam, like you
know what I mean? Like we're not doing so to
exit like we were in our boost.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
If you got it shake in with somebody and you
wanted to leave before the cops came, show me an
exit plan. Let's take you about an hour and a
half to get out of here.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Remember, but listen, it was nothing but the energy in
the room was nothing but positive the entire weekend.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
And then imagine trying to escape before the cops came
and you had to small talk with everyone on your
way out, like listen, I just knocked somebody out. I
need to leave.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah, Nah, it was It was never gonna be that,
not for me, like I and I didn't feel like
it was that from Rayvaughon, but team shout out to
take it on the West Azike.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I really liked that.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
In a conversation with.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I like him a lot. I like his music and
like I said, he was my favorite feature on gn X.
I like him as a person. I had never met him.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
Cool guy, very cool energy, very very good energy about him.
He's one of the people that we sat and talked
with that aside from you know, his his ability, his
rapping ability. He's one of the people now that I'm
kind of paying more attention to just because I like
his energy and I like him as a person, Like
I thought he was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Berg aka hit Maker he uh he roy Lex Peede
me definitely happened. I thought we had made amends for
my mistake, and you know, Berg and I had had
a rocky moment as close friends, and I thought we
had squashed it. But he brought her up right back
on Mike like he wasn't over. I was like, oh,
this is Alex Fel was that face since that we

(24:19):
had been on face hime?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, no, that's all.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I'm glad The funny thing is I wanted to bring
it up on Mike, but I would have preferred it.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
He did want to do it, yea, he beat you
to it.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I wouldn't have. I wanted him to bring it up.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Because I you know, and he did and yeah, great conversation,
and I apologized again, Yeah, as you should what you
do wrong.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
My intentions were not like malicious. But then when it
was explaining to me after I understood why Berg felt way.
I was with hit Boy in Baisley in the studio
and he played me his like control producer version off
the Alan Hippoy tape where he like, this is all
the producers. So I hit He was like, I can't

(25:00):
put this out, Like could you post this on your Instagram,
like as a way for a rollout thing? So I said, yeah,
but let me hit Burg because Berg is my mass
Like you saying his name, I just want to make
sure he's cool with that, because you know that's my guy. Yeah,
get on the phone with Berg, play it over the speaker.
I don't even think Berg necessarily heard the whole thing,
but he was like, it's cool, bro, it's whatever. But

(25:21):
there's a line in there that talks about a certain
situation with Berg and like a chain and that whole shit,
which was like a real situation. So I get why
Berg felt away like he was dissing the producers on
some music shit. You said something personal about me, yeah,
and then yeah, Berg barred me up. He said, oh
you got you got the clout. You needed a lot
of mic drops in my text that night were fun.

(25:44):
But you know, well, yeah you do.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
That was a bad call on your behalf.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
I didn't view it that way, and I did call him,
so I thought it was okay. Yeah, but in retrospect, yes,
I woud feel way to it.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
But that's the right.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
You make mistakes and things happen. But you then meet
up at BT weekend and sit down with an old
friend and of course you got to throw that shot
out there. But then we have a conversation to realize, yo.
So it's still all love, nothing but respect for Bert.
Shout out to Burg, shout out to his new artist
toy En and was it von e ron E. Yeah,
I couldn't really hear when he was talking, like, you know,
you got that R and B shit is you know,

(26:18):
R and B niggas talk with like a real smooth.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I went and looked up Shorty's record with Vice Cartell
first She's dope, Yeah, and she just put out some
new music I think yesterday, two days ago. Berg is
a great ear but also has a great eye for talent. Yeah,
knowing when somebody's gonna be nice. So she's she's fire.
But it was cool. Joy was great.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Shout out to Joey Taylor. Definitely want to have her
on uh sometimes sometimes soon to talk don't know ball, Yeah,
with Joey, I think that would be great.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
But we did not go to the actual awards, y'all run.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
No.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
They gave us tickets on on Sunday Day Hendry tickets,
but it was black tie and I didn't come prepared
and I wasn't about to just go rush out and
get that on a Sunday night and morning, and I
just wanted to get home. But I mean I did
watch the awards. I thought they were great. I thought
it was a great way to you know, honor the anniversary.
Shout out to Ashley too one on six and Parks Sports.
I think that's incredible.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Shout out to Ashley Nicole. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Preparing Cam Newton correct. Yeah, that's dope.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Did you watch the awards because I know we were
in the air. I went to watch the clips on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I saw I saw all the clips on YouTube. I
didn't see the show live though, but I saw the
clips on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, but no, shout out to everyone. You know that
that was honored, performed one awards coten relations with Jamie Fox,
Yeah he had. They had Stevie one to give him
an award and still didn't give Stevie. Listen, man, listen man,
b T.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I love y'all, Thank y'all for a beautiful weekend.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I get that.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Y'all gave Stevie the first in augurule award of the
first BT Awards.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I gave him. I don't even know what the name
of it was, but it wasn't the Lifetime Achievement Award.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
We gotta do Stevie right, y'all had Elton John go
out there seeing Steve, Jamie Fox made fun to.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Him, Steve al all of that cool.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Let's do it right though, Let's get Let's get STEVEE
got achieve more. Let's get saying Stevie got achieve Yeah,
he ain't doing enough. Still, Someone on the checklist man,
listen man. But yeah, I think we gotta we gotta
honor Stevie the right way.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
B T.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
We got to create some a big moment for who
is probably the and Rory would agree, the one of,
if not the greatest musician who has ever lived.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Uh Stevie wonder Like, we have to on him the
right way.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I completely agree. And while that was happening, you did
drop a bomb on Twitter, which I do want to
get to, but I did want your review of my
performance this go round rather than last year when I
was sitting with a blank stare because I had found
out Kia was pregnant four hours before we had to
do media room.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Are you a little more sociated ship?

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Your energy was a little more you know, present, He
was more socialoting seemed like you were being as socially
awkward as the first year we went. It seemed like
you were more engaged with people. So yeah, you definitely
this this Rory was definitely a more upbeat in the
moment in tune, Rory.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, I definitely had the blank stare, like, all right,
so I just found out and then I just left
to go to the pet Awards and I'm already the
worst spother ever heard. And I think he was sick.
I was sick as yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it was
that was just an interesting.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah, no, you were sick. It was a lot going
on for you know this This this time felt more,
felt more. I felt more energy and more like, Okay,
I'm actually in here, I'm in the moment. So yeah,
good job man.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
So so we got home on Monday, and then Tuesday
rolls around. I'm just, you know, scrolling through the timeline
like I usually do, trying to catch up on stuff
because you know, we missed a lot. We were busy.
And I see this this tweet that Iceman got a
bomb with some money emojis, and I thought, I is
Marvel doing a reboot. I did not know exactly what

(30:03):
you were talking about until every single blog picked that up.
As Drake has a huge disc coming against Kendrick Lamar
that's going to ruin his career. Is that what blog?

Speaker 8 (30:13):
That's what?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
That's what all the blogs took that it's not over.
Mal confirms that way at you because you broke this news.
Is that a nickname you gave him? Per Se, I
was not aware. I know the boy, I know Champagne Poppy.
I know six God, I know uh, Jimmy Wheelchair Jimmy.

(30:37):
I know a lot of Drake aliases. I even know
some of his crew, and there in their names. I
have yet to hear Iceman. When did he name himself that?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
That's the name of the album?

Speaker 2 (30:50):
That is that confirmed? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I think he confirmed that. Okay, that's the name of
the album.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Probably has a lot of meanings, I'm sure, uh, but
that that is the name of the of the album
got you. At least I think that's the name of
the album. I believe that's the name of the album.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I mean, I would I prefer I mean, I just
prefer to call him Drake. But if I have to
go with a nickname, allbread it to me is weird
because we're not friends. I feel like that's only reserved
for women. That's sort of know him. M Champagne. Poppy
is just to like, I can't I can't call him
that Iceman. I don't know yet. I still think I'm
gonna go with Drake, but it's a little better with

(31:29):
the nicknames. I'm not gonna call him Scorpion. No, I
think that's the name of the album. Okay, you know,
is their meaning behind us? I'm pretty sure there is.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
I mean, obviously, you know him being from the colder
region in the north of Toronto, Canadon, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
I think they might. It might have a lot to
do with his.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Kind of like we spoke about after the whole battle
went down, kind of becoming more cold, more standoffish.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
And isolated, isolated. You got that one for free, that
the intro.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yeah, I think that that may have something to do
with it as well, too, Like he's he's not as
warm and as embracing as he once was to people,
so he might be a little cold, a little standoffish.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Now. I came in here to ask some questions, but
I am in a few group chats with you behind
the scenes, and when those people asked, you didn't even reply.
So I don't know how much I'm gonna get out
of you on camera. As far as this entire thing.
Did you hear a record? Is that what you're referring
to by bomb? Is it in relation to the battle
or is it in relation to he just has a

(32:32):
great record coming. Is this a red button moment?

Speaker 5 (32:36):
No, the battle is over. I think I don't think
his mind or his energy is in that space anymore.
I think this is a you know, this is the
official moving on, moving past that. That's in my rear view.
Just good, just great music, okay, just great music. Yeah,
so this tweet was a Iceman got a bomb. I mean,

(32:56):
it has nothing to do. It's not a battle going
that Kendrick Bond. I don't know why blogs. You know,
well I know that, but no, it's not that. This
is this is just great music, this particular record. I
think maybe the record, well, I know this record is
gonna go number one. It's just that type of record,
and obviously he will surpass. I think Michael Jackson was

(33:16):
his next number one.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Okay, so yeah, well I'm excited to hear music. You
do you do know what happens at this point right
when you post stuff.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Like this, maybe a little bit okay, I like doing
she didn't you know, I don't really tweet much. I
like shaking up the tomline.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
And then a little l like one point eight million views.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Going back, going back to when when decks in the
you know what I'm saying, the induction induction stove in
the crib.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
You know, you gotta win dex that thing after you
wipe it off, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I will just say this, this podcast in general is
completely hypocritical because all I do is talk about how
this battle like actually kind of ruined hip hop, and
I think it's made media weird. I think it's made
the fans weird. I wish we'd all stop talking about it.
But then I do ship like, hey, djhad you want
to battle mall on on camera? And then obviously this
is this tweet, which you know, I'm happy you're the
one breaking this news, but of course it's going to

(34:04):
be tied to the beef. No one read that and
was like, oh, we're gonna get a Drake album that's
focused on the future and not what's going on in
the past.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
No, he might be mad at me for that tweet,
but it's all good. I just can't.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
I mean, I was listening to this record and it
was just like Jesus Christ, like big record, big record,
But yeah, I mean that's all it was.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
He calls nothing to do with the beat? Is it
an ass shaking record?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Like, oh, yeah, you can shake ass to it, but
it's not, you know, it's I mean, I got to
shake some mass to some time. Stamp Records. Well, I
mean how you're feeling like, you know, that's if that's
your thing, Rory, not even Dallas just gets me. It
gets me, moving, gets the body.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, you start joging for sure.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Looks like Americans close fronts.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Yeah, man, nah, big big record, great record. I think
it's the perfect sentiment moving forward.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah. And I'm just I'm just happy, man, I'm just
happy that, you know, we got some good, some new, good,
good music on the way.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, while we stay in young Money. On Friday, the
Carter six, seven, eight, nine, ten. I'm not good with
Roman numerals after five, like I'm good with the one, two, three, four.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
Sometimes we get tricky because Rocky four is one of
my favorite movies. That's why I know five is just
the V So I like that, I know, But after that, dude,
I this could be eleven for all my fucking know. Yeah,
Carter six dropped on Friday.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I know it's it sounded like an excuse in the
media room with the amount of people off Mike. They
were saying what you think of I was like, I
really haven't had time to listen, and everyone thinks when
you say that, you're trying to be polite and saying
as trash, I hadn't, but I did end up listening
to the Carter six. And while I may share some
sentiments that the Timeline did for the entire weekend, which

(35:48):
was I don't just trying to ruin a legends legacy
off of projects. It's not as fucking bad as y'all
made it seem to be.

Speaker 8 (35:58):
It is.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
The production is a little all over the place, and yes,
we do know Wayne to experiment, but sometimes experiments go bad,
and sometimes you should take that experiment and go, well,
we tried it, let's delete it.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yes, I had some moments on there for sure, but
it was not as fucking bad as we made this
out to be. On the Timeline, Like I was going
into that thinking this was horrendous, yea, and the first
two records, I was like, this is dope and then
started to take a few turns. But I don't with
certain rappers. And maybe it's a little hypocritical because I

(36:34):
am very critical of Eminem and I think his first
four five albums are incredible. After that, it just is
a shit show. Wayne. Shouldn't Wayne get a little bit
more grace from us if he does drop a dud, Like,
I don't what do we expect outside of Nas and Hove?
How have we seen hip hop age well as far

(36:55):
as desography.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Though, But that's the thing, Rory. When you're like you said,
Nads and Hove, you put them. You put those names
out there in regards to Lil Wayne, So you're you're
putting little Wayne in a space where these are the
best of the best. So when you're in the responsibility
comes with that when you're deemed one of the best
of the best. Some people have him as being the
greatest rapper ever.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Some people have him being, you know, better.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Than jay Z, better than Nads, better than whoever you
have at the top. Some people have Wayne number one.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
And while I don't agree with that, I can see
somewhat of a certain age and where they were in
their life liking Wayne more than a Hove. And I
think he's done enough to be in the goat conversations.
I just don't think he's better than over Nas, but
he's there.

Speaker 6 (37:38):
What nothing, Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
So yeah, I think I think M's last. However, many
albums have kind of fucking sucked. I think you could
maybe even make a case that m may have more
bad albums than good ones, but based on that run
that he had, if somebody said Eminem is the greatest
rapper of all time or should be in the goat conversation,
I mean I'd say, yes, you have every I have
to say that. So I think Wayne deserves that same grace,

(38:03):
even though this may have not been up to bar Well.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
That's why I'm always on the side of Tom Will
Always Tell, and I'm with people saying Wayne is their
favorite rapper. But when you get into the field of
saying Wayne is the greatest rapper, that's why I always
get people push back like.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
He can be your favorite rapper. Fine, I'm totally fine
with that.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
But when you start saying he's the greatest rapper, and
then now we can go to catalog, we can go
to you know, songs, we can go to things that
can kind of like make this more realistic and more reality,
and when you get to somebody like Wayne, I always
felt like Wayne could rap. No argument there. I just
never felt like Wayne was as great of an artist

(38:48):
or rapper as some happen. He's one of my favorites
personal favorites, for sure, but when you start talking about
the greatest of all time the goat conversation.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Well, I mean, that's all objective, but I think it
is objective. I feel like, even in a non objective way,
I think Wayne should be in that conversation, which to
me gives him the grace of not doing what the
internet did over the weekend based.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
Off Nah, nobody's nobody's exempt from the greats, exempt from
that rory.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
You're never exempt from that, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I'm saying, he out, hear me out. I feel like
Wayne also being from the era where you have to
have so much output, whereas Nas and Hove in the
beginning and middle of their career, they were in the
regular album cycle shit, where it's like I put an
album out, I go on to her, I disappear for
a year, rinse and repeat. Wayne was at the time
where you had to put out three mixtapes while you

(39:38):
were rolling out your album. Like, his output was based
off the era he was in, and when you have
so much output, there's a high chance that some of
it may suck. So I don't think it's an even
embarrassing can then, I remember when I was a teenager,
when Nas, when I was a teenager was the time
when people started to question NAS A bit. I was.

(40:00):
I was young for the golden erab Nas still madic.
I was young. I was like the first NAS project,
I like, remember was there the entire thing? Godson was great,
but one Streets Disciple, which I think is a good
album hip hop is dead Untitled that Run. Even though
I like those projects, people from your era were like, Nah,
that ain't it. But I never saw anyone Wayne, No
I'm saying Nash, I never saw anyone completely shit in

(40:23):
discredit NAS's entire legacy the week that Untitled came out,
mm hmm. And I just think it's unfair what people
are doing. Wayne. If you dislike it, cool, I feel you.
I get it, and it's okay to say that artists
to be judged. But I saw like it was a
next level of Wayne teardown. Yeah, none of Carter two
doesn't exist.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
Like I think that that would happen from any of
the greats. I think right now Nas put out a
dud that Tomline would kill him. I think right now
Jay Z dropped the dud that Tomlin would kill him.
I think right now, if Drake dropped the dud, the
Tomline would go I think that's reserved for the greats,
Like the greats are not supposed to drop duds. That's
just that's just what comes with being labeled as one
of the goats. You can't drop a dont now. You
don't got to drop a classic every time out. We're

(41:04):
not saying, give us a classic album every time you release.
But I can't sit here and give Wayne any you know,
an any rope and any slack. When we watched NAS
put out six albums that were incredible.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I agree, So this is this is That's why I
try to bring up the time when we didn't know
the run that he was going to go on with
King Disease and Magic, like before we got to Life
is Good, which I think is a cult classic, that
those three albums before that, Everyone's like, well, I mean
he's still NAS, but like this is just the latter
half of his career. We thought at that time, Yeah,

(41:40):
why can't we just give that same grace to Way.
I don't like it either, but that doesn't mean I'm
shitting on his entire existence. Yeah, everything he's ever done.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
You can't shit on.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
You can't anybody trying to shoot on Wayne's entire existence
in careers. Just you're just looking for attention on the
timeline and trying to row people up. But you know,
Wayne is still one of the goats. He's still one
of the greatest. He's still a little Wayne. Let's let's
keep that very clear. I just think that, you know,
the timeline heard the latest project and weren't happy with it,
didn't like it. You know, expected more, expected better from Wayne.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Some production was just all over the place.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
But that but those are things that you know, again,
when you want you create art and put it out,
the consumers will you know, they will judge it, they
will give you up their opinion on it. A lot
of people didn't like the project. I've seen some people
that did. But that's not make any mistake about it.
It's still little Wayne.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
At least it wasn't Ai. That's a whole other conversation.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Like, at least Wayne is actually still writing and still rapping,
and it's still him.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Like I'm just picking the experiment.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Look at what we had. Well, we're just grateful for that.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
We're grateful that the artist actually got into booth and
actually spit some bars into the microphone. Like we're just
grateful for that. But there's a couple jumps on there.
I like the Flex Up I believe it's called flex
Up record.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
It was another one that I liked, but a lot,
you know, a lot of it I probably won't go
back to, but those those two.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
It flecks up. And it was another one that I
really like.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Bell was walking to the Carter first of you joint
Welcome to the Car, I think, or that one. I
like that Yo Ban from n O. I didn't fully
understand because he's already smoked the band from TV be
on No Ceilings.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, Like I just don't get it.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
But I mean, I thought it was great that Nicky
came right away when when the hate train was happening
and remixed it within twenty four hours. Like I think
their relationship is cool to watch because and hip I
usually this many years in between two artists and one
signed you that's usually a shit show, Like there's beef

(43:36):
at that point. Everyone hates each other. People doing Vlad interviews,
Like I love that Nikki still you know, whatever Wayne needs,
she's showing up because she understands what Wayne you know,
did for her, which she talks about constantly.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Oh man, we talk and I talk about that constant.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I admired Nikki for always making sure everyone knows what
Wayne did for everybody Wayne Wayne, I appreciate Nickcky does
that type.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Wayne is forever one of my favorite people for what
he did when it came to Nicky and Drake, Like
for him to be Lil Wayne and just have those
who are assigned to him, but then for him to
have the ability to tuck his ego because he's Lil Wayne,
but for him to tuck his ego, move out the
way and allow Nikki to become Nicki and allowed Drake

(44:18):
to become Drake. That speaks to Lil Wayne the man
more than it speaks to Lil Wayne the artist yet.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
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That's unlimited talk, text and data just at twenty five dollars.

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Speaker 2 (45:00):
Well, I love your prediction of what Timberland is going
to do with Tata. Do you think he'll get out
the way and just let her download?

Speaker 3 (45:08):
I think that's what you do with Ai'll.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Y'all got no ego with Ta, you can do it.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Just just just upload the beat and let Tata do
what she want to do.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Like you know that, cause I had to play catch
up over the weekend. Of course, that caused a lot
within not just hip hop, but the producer community. Timberlin
announced that he has his new AI artists partnered with
with Stage zero I believe it is, and he's introducing
Tata that is a living learning music artist. They tried

(45:42):
to flip it in the press release that it's not
AI to the point that I started reading like, oh,
wait is an artists that they're using AI with, And
then I got to the end of the articles like, no,
this is a made up person. They said she's They
said she's living and breathing. No she's not.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
She's not an avatar, she is not a character. She
is Tata is a living learning autonomous music artists. Autonomous
music artist. He wrote this for them too, built with
wrote this, Tata is the start of something bigger. You
don't say she's the first artist of a new generation.
A pop is the next A pop is the next
cultural evolution, and Tata is its first icon.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, I saw uh as I knew I would. I
saw Guru on a I g live.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Shouts to Guru. Also a great example of you can
have just honest conversation with each other without dispect because
it is not, of course, but I love that Guru.
Like even in the comment he left under this release
of how this is problematic, Like, Tim, I love you.
I'm having this. I want to have this conversation with
you because I love.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
You and all of us we all love and respect
and appreciate it. To take that information, Yeah, it has
given us. That goes without saying.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
I gave Timbling the thumbs down when we sit with
JD and I asked him about this at BT weekend.
I still give Tim a thumbs Now, Tim Timbla is
not supposed to be attached to a part of any
of this. Is this is not the way we want
to go with the music. We are already with the
music industry and the music business being the way it is,
in random way, its is for us to now be
implementing artists and songs and music to this type of technology.

(47:14):
I just don't think Tim Bland's brand should be a
part of this.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I mean, Swiz brought up an interesting point that I
guess I agree, because I do not agree. I'm on
the side of Guru with everything that he said about
how these AI artists are legitimally just digesting catalogs of
music to create how good they are, and no artists
a producer, we don't even know what they're using. Like

(47:38):
you can legitimately upload an entire catalog to create this
a shit with no back end to the artists at all. Like,
how is that fair if I give you jay z
and Na's computer and they're like, they have the ability
to be just as good as fucking insane, right, and
you don't give credit to any of the artists. Very
detrimental to the community of creatives. But I do see

(48:00):
what Swizz is saying on the tech side, This AI
shit is happening regardless, and you even saw he didn't
mention this part, but I knew what he was getting
at Black artists were late on the streaming side. We
even saw what would Hove had to do with title
to try to keep up with what was going on
with Spotify and Apple and how everything was switching to streaming.

(48:20):
Everybody's late. If the white artists are already going to
use it and are ahead of it, why can't Tim
get in there as well? Because it's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Yeah, but that don't mean a lot of shit.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
And when the rules start to change the way streaming
has where that is the only way the biggest community
consumes music. Yeah, a lot of people thought streaming may
be detrimental and weren't getting paid enough, and there was
different slides of who's getting paid this and paid that.
If you don't set the rules now and make sure
that all the communities are represented and everything is fair
in this, it could get even crazier when AI becomes

(48:54):
the standard the way streaming became the standard.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
And I'm not saying Tim is doing this because he
definitely didn't mention that in the fucking press release, Like
this is to make sure black creatives are taken care of.
This bitch is a k pop video game, and no
dispect to k pop yet I've been attacked by enough
I was, I was gonna say, been attacked by enough
groups over the past few months. I think it is

(49:18):
safe to say that K pop is very much influenced
by black culture. Is that a crazy statement? No, you
could make the statement a bit crazier than the word influenced.
But with that said, I see what'sw wass the saying.
I don't think that's Tim's intentions at all, But I don't.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
I don't think that Timbaland Swiss, any of our greatest
producers and musicians have to do anything with AI artists.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
I don't think. I don't think they have to at
all at all. I get I get AI as a
technology that is here, that is happening and all of this.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I get that.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
But when it comes to musicians and making music and
things like that, God bless is so oh. I find
it very hard to even fathom or think that Quincy
Jones would have ever been a part of anything like this.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
I don't think Stevie Wonder is Stevie Wonder will ever
lend his musical ability to anything AI.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
But yeah, I agree, But you don't know the Stevie
Wonder that is born in twenty twenty two, and this
is already close to what a standard is with certain
music business twenty twenty five. When that kid grows up
in this era, that's all they'll know, Like it'll just
be it. Like if Stevie was born in twenty twenty

(50:40):
five and then in fifteen years when he started to
like want to become an artist, this is going to
be a standard.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
So I don't know Steve would have been like, Nope,
I don't I don't believe. Yes, I think I think
it's keys for.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Me, Like he'd be coming up in a society, in
a music world where this wasn't taboo. This is just
what's being taught to you. I don't think so, I
hope not. I hope I'm wrong about that, but.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
Yeah, because I don't think that. I don't shit, I
don't think you would ever do anything with a AI.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
But I see, I don't know that because even before,
like I love the paywall shit, and I think streaming
is that's right, we talked, We've been talking for ten
years about how much it fucks over artists. I have
to use it like it's it's in it's the era
that I'm in. And a kid, yeah, a kid that
wasn't in the streaming.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
That's different than having an AI artist that's not a
real person and you just implement your musicianship. And as
Timbling goes and takes his production and puts it into
a file and they tak an artist running through a program,
I can't even call it artist AI running through a
program and now you have a record.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
I just don't.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
There's so many musicians that we're taking We're taking the
soul out of music. We're taking the soul a lot
of musicianship, we're taking the soul out of artistry. Like
if we're just going to use a program to create
a song and to create it's like, I just don't.
There are a lot of musicians that I think young
musicians that I don't think would ever be a part

(52:03):
of anything like this.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
I don't. I just don't see it.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Yeah, I mean I saw a lot of other people
that are very much pro AI and it's here now,
so I'm gonna utilize it and I'm not gonna be
left behind. Say this is what people said about sampling,
is what people said about autotune. Yeah, it was said,
but this is Apple's and bowling balls like I can
see why some artists were mad about sampling outside of

(52:26):
it if you were actually stealing, but just how it
took away from music. And even when Prince said, at
what point we're gonna get that the sample is being
sampled by the sample of the sample, but print sampled
as well, but he was just saying, it's getting a
little too ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (52:37):
Now.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Auto tune as well, that was frowned upon, even though
people were using autotuned at a very light level and
no one knew when when all the way up it
was killed. And now it's a standard. I still don't
think it's the same as as Tata.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Yeah, but it's a standard. It's a standard for people
that can't really perform to a certain level. AutoTunes as
a standard for somebody that can't singing key, somebody that
can't stay on tune, somebody that it's okay, you felt
this is kind of out of key.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
His no was a little flat.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Let me this technology to adjust it to make it
sound good. Whitney Houston didn't have that problem. No, Beyonce
doesn't have that problem. Sure, like you have the great.
So Jazzmin Sullivan is not auto.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Tuned, but there's also musicality is not auto tuned.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Fair and I think there that's a stat that they
have and should be proud of, and we should honor
and make sure that people know that they get their
own musicians. There's music that I love that uses some tune.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
I'm not I'm not saying this. I'm not saying this.
I'm not saying this music that doesn't use it that
isn't good. I'm just saying it's not the standard.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I've heard Kendrick Drake and Cole use a ship ton
of tune on stuff that I've.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Loved, absolutely, but it's not the standard.

Speaker 7 (53:48):
Yeah, not the complete sound of auto tune, but auto
tune being used originally before people started turning it all
the way up, what it was used for to clear
up like a couple of crackly vocals. People have been
I'm sure Beyonce has used it before. I'm sure Jasmin
has used them.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I'm sure in Beyonce's settings right now there is some tune.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Yeah, that's that's yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
Like so it's just because people are using it more
and more.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Respectful to Beyonce. I don't think she uses auto tune
at all on any of her vocals.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
I don't know. I can't say for I'm sure for certain,
but they they're mixing.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
Vocals or something different. I don't think anybody has to
pitch correct Beyonce's vocals.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
I just don't think so.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I don't feel like so.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
I feel like every artist has a bad day sometimes.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Yeah, but I'm saying Beyonce's bad days, she would just
come back on a good day. Okay, that's that's listen.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I don't know that's I mean even with I'll never
sit here to pretend to know every last thing about
mixing and mastering. But no matter what, in this era,
if you are cutting through pro tools, it's like almost
automatic is going to smooth out some stuff no matter
who you are. I get. I get there's gonna be
a touch somewhere.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I get that. I get that part of it. But
you know the auto tune I'm talking, oh yeah, for sure,
like the artists, but you know the tune them.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I think it works where it works, like I don't
know what did anyone think Zap and Rogers like that
was talkbox was used in a creative way in that
even though it's straight auto tuning, you.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Know, because that was the sound. Yeah, exact sound.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah, playing it through the keyboard, like there's it takes
fucking talent, and what I think t Paying can really
sing for real? I think it just makes the type
of music he was making sound cooler.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Speaking of t paining, Peach, Peach had the most random
his LA trip. Peach texts me, you.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Ran in a Teddy Bender ass peace per text me.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
That's one of my goats, So Peace text me, right.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
Piece, Peach goes. Peach goes, because this is why I
love peage man. He's just the most random text there,
Like whatever, Peace text me.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
It's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
But he asked you to do in the hotel, so
he goes. So p says, oh yeah the cannonball contest.
Yeah yeah he So we.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
Get to La, so Page goes your mall cannonball contest
in thirty question mark question mark. So I'm like, Peach,
first of all, why do you have to prepare.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Before?

Speaker 8 (56:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
He broke it down for me. Gotta do some light callesthetics.
I got it.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
So Peach text me, he goes you at the hotel.
Now this is where my PTSD kicks in, because when
somebody asked me if I'm somewhere, I'm automatically thinking either
something happened or something is getting ready to happen. So
pe text me, Yo, you at the hold. I said, Noah,
not yet. You good because you know that again, P
I gotta make sure. Yeah, just talking with T Paint

(56:31):
at the bar.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Pull up? Yo.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I read that.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Yeah, just talking with T Paint at the bar.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Pull up.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
I'm like, Yo, that's so random, right.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Why like save money and stay at my cousins so
so so.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Then I get to the hotel. P just still at
the bar with a mutual friend.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
He got some drinks to drink him.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
He drank the Peach may have drink he made. He
may he may have, he may have.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
Peach may have drunk every bar at that, for every
every bit at that at that bar. I get back
to the hotel, paid the mutual friends and we all talking.
I go to some I'm time going to shut it down.
I get upstairs. I get to the room. Peach text me,
he goes, T I is down here now. I'm like, Peach,
just go to your fucking room.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Man, Like, how do you go?

Speaker 3 (57:14):
From T Pain one hour and now you're at the
bar with fucking tea.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
I was genuinely doing a one on six in part countdown.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, I'm like, your you've been at a bar too
long to be sitting there with T Pain and then Ti,
you have been there too many hours, sir, It's time
to go to your fucking room. Man's just go to
your room, man.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah, I had no I mean obviously outside of the
media room. I know, like celebrity sightings, because I didn't
do the hotel thing. Lola Brook was on my flight
as far as it went.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Shout the low at the media room. I saw her
outside of the media room.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, I want to talk to her.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
It was cool. Trinerdad James was really cool. But I've
been telling you all that. Yeah, I met him a
few years ago and we've had a cool relationship. Like
it was really cool.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Man. It was good to meet Trinidad James and kicking
with him.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Man.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
He was he was really cool.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
He's he just happens to have an album, like he
was gonna be good no matter what what he was
doing between fashion, between business, like he just also happened
to wrap at one point. Yeah, he's a great guy.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
I gotta hit him. I'm death.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
I wanted to check out his history in Atlanta. I
know he got some some sneakers, some pieces in there
that I might want. So definitely hit him up and
next time I Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
There was outside of some artists, there was some there
was some action in there. I mean we didn't have
any time. Like all we could do was look.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
There for work. We was there to do the lord's work. Man,
We was just there to do the lords.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
This is how, this is how I know that the
standard is in Hell for men as well, not just
for women. There was one girl there that was in
She was in her her bet working get up with
the sweatsuit and the fucking microphones and all that ship
and running around pieces of paper. I was like, who
the fuck is that? Then you showed up and she

(58:54):
walked by again. He went who the fuck is that?
And I said, and she has a job.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yeah. So it's like, look where we're at, like men
just happy that a woman has a job like you.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
Actually she has a job, get her work. Just she
just she was just walking running around work and I'm like,
she's actually on the clock.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Like I wanted to rub her feet.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Yeah, this is the type of woman you you go
home burnt on the bath for and you make sure
the kitchen is clean, the food already done, like cook.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
This is the type of woman that you know. She's
at work a baby.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
How was your day?

Speaker 5 (59:24):
You other skeezers out here that's just doing last years
till my work life is a good show. Out the way,
get out of the way.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Very difficult to put lashes on.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Oh no, it is difficult to lash and that.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Like surgical thing they use that terrifies me.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, the last seon. I mean, shout out to all
the last tick.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Shout out.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
Shout out to anybody that is doing their thing work
and have their own company business.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
It's not easy. I support anybody that is independently working.

Speaker 6 (59:47):
You keep bringing up the last tech. Did a last
tech break your heart?

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Break my heart?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
I mean, I feel like that's happened to all of
us now.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
If a last tech broke my heart at my age,
baby D I failed and like, okay, but in the past, no,
a lash teck has never broken herd. I don't think
the last tick has the ability to break my.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
She he don't know, you don't know break my heart.
That don't be the one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Good hours too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
I'm a vet baby. Dial keep telling you. There's a
lot of things that I'm already I'm past as on.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
There was one girl with her actual ass out and
like I'm not even saying it, like the Taste away
where there's like some tights, it's part of the fit.
Like she had raw Like I could see that skin
ass out hanging out of her dress, and I'm thinking,
you know, she's an artist and doing the artist thing.
I get it. I didn't see her doing one interview.
An hour passed and I was like, Oh, she's just she'
in't here selling ass. Oh she ain't sit down with

(01:00:34):
one person.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
She's working. She's not working the awards, she's working something else,
having your whole at the media every just working at
midnight training to joine period job. It's at the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I was waiting for Trading to go, Hey, you want
to talk to her?

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
I want no, Yeah, listen, you gotta work. I'm not
mad anybody that's working doing anything, I don't care what
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Salute you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
It's hard to get up every day and actually do
something for yourself and work, and so definitely shout out
to anybody that's working, really working.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Yeah, shout out shout out to publicists. Man, that's that's
that's an annoying job as well on days like that
because I know you you guys don't want to do
a small talk shit either, but that's your gig in
that room.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
That was the one thing that I did, uh, you know,
observe in the media room the ship was that you know,
we don't really because I guess we're in it, rory,
we don't really look at exactly how many moving parts
and people and things that are actually in play and
working a lot of the times because we know so
many people on a personal level, it's like no, but
she's here working or he's here working, like you know

(01:01:36):
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
So you got to give respect to that. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
It's good to see people actually doing something and you know,
just just trying because it's it's hard for a lot
of people to get up every day and just try
to do something like you know, we all just in
our own bubble sometimes. But got to give respecting grace
to people for just waking up every day and trying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
I have a question for you and we can close, bet,
but I meant to actually ask you this, like on text.

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Or on air, but let's do it so on text,
So you meant to ask me on text and in
the practice of our home and and but now you're like,
fucking let's bring it here to our hundreds of millions
of viewers and listening.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Okay, because it because it reminded me when you said
so many moving parts. PR is a huge part of
an artist life and also an artist being very good
at PR as well talking to people who looking in
my eyes, having real conversations connect, like actually doing the
networking thing in the right way. Meeting Amory was amazing
and so fucking cool. M h. Do you think she's

(01:02:30):
a fan of our podcast or she says that to everyone?
Because she made me believe we were supposed to stay
with her, but schedules, more so on our end than
it was hers, didn't work out. And you know, we
talked about doing an episode up here. It went past
small talk, and I saw she did the same with you.
I was like, all right, she's either really good at
the other side of being an artist, or maybe she

(01:02:51):
likes our show. I think that, I said, like it
sat with me on the car rise was like she
probably says that to everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
No, she probably. I mean she made me feel like
like she listened, but she made me feel seen. As
soon as I walked in.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
She was like, Hey, I'm so sad that you guys
are leaving. I wanted to sit down, but I'm going
to be in New York and I was just leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
At Amy like not, ma, I wish you were. That.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
It was was different than any industry small talk, to
the point that I wasn't sure if I was being played.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Yeah, no, I don't like if she was brief walk
it felt it felt genuine. It felt it felt genuine
from her. But I you know, I am looking forward
to sitting down talking with her. At the timeline was
killing Amory for her tiny death performance, and I want
to sit down and talk to Amine about it, just
like you know. Listen, man, let's we could talk about it.
Like you said, sometimes people have days where they just
it's not it wasn't a good day. Let's talk about
the not so good days. We all have them, right,

(01:03:41):
She still ain't Marie, when that shit come on, we
still gonna shake gas, the burgers and bottles.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
There you go, shout out to Amy rito.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
She was sweet, though, did you get anything else or
you were just media room and like, did you hit
any events?

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Nah? I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
I didn't and we went to uh I show.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
Shout out to Sean. Shawn is the only person that
could ever get me to go to a club these days.
He was doing a party that was literally two blocks
from the hotel. I literally walked from my hotel to
the club, sat with Sean for about an hour, kicked
it with him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Always good to see my guy, Sean.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
But I got so high that I started getting anxiety
and that hasn't happened in a long time, and everybody
felt like the ops.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
So I had to leave. Okay, Yeah, I thought I
was the only person that happens to Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
If baby, if you ever see me, just leave somewhere.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
Just nock locked eyes with somebody in nfl opps and
I'm like, nah, yeah, like let me get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
I should go left, Like, let me just go back
to my room.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
So I just but I was laughing once I got
out the club because I'm like, I'm literally walking to
my hotel from the club, Like this is crazy, Like
only Sean could get me to do something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
So I went to Shawn's party.

Speaker 8 (01:04:52):
That was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Sunday night. Sunday night, went to Shawn's party, and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
My immature ass in those situations at Shawn's party confront
ops and ruined the party for everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
Nah, But it wasn't no ops. I was just anxious.
I had smoked some really good weed and I was
just like, oh no.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Last time. I was well, not last time. But when
I was at Highlight Room, that was an op and
he was talking. He was just doing it passive agrestling
from table to table, not knowing that those people were
going from that table to Yo, you got an issue
with him. I was like, I guess I do now, Yeah,
damn yeah. Sewan had to break that one up. I
felt bad.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
It's cool his event. Shout out to Sean and Shawn.
I told Sean said, Sean, you're the only person that
could get me to go to the club. I do
not go to clothes at all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Yeah. I mean, I didn't feel bad that I didn't
go to one single event, But you know, I don't
know Jerker Joe Off I would have liked to go
to that was walking distance that I still was too tired.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I was supposed to shout out to Belly.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
I tried to make it my point to see Belly
anytime I'm in La go by the studio, kicking with him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
I was Friday night. I was supposed to go to
his crib. I was just so tired. I called myself
taking a nap. Around nine o'clock. Woke up. It was
like three point thirty in the morning. Every light was on,
bathroom light was on. It was just bad man. Shout
out the bellied or I didn't get to see my
god his trip, but shout out to my guy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Yeah, I'm sorry. There is one more bet thing we
have to get to. How did we not talk about
this earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
The biggest news out of the BT Awards.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Yea, I gotta leave my guy Wile alone.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
Yeah, I think he had had a day. He did
this to himself though he did. Yeah, man, he wasn't.
Wile ain't supposed to approach Ky about no ship like
that man about what they was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Passing making him look crazy. Oh all right, Well that's
the end. Let's let's start the beginning for those that
that weren't aware while he was already in heat with
the Kendrick fans for the entire day, and then he
was at the BT Awards. Looked like him and Ki
were both in some type of parking garage, probably staying
in the same spot and past each other, and KYI
was doing the live stream, gets back in his car

(01:06:48):
after dapping Wiley and talking about Nintendo. His man says
that was as well as the comments, and Kyle was like,
what does he do? And then wile A already having
a rough morning, continues for the remainder of the day
of just Walley talk all over the timeline. I felt,

(01:07:09):
what did do after that? Exist?

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
I just know he looked crazy for approaching Kyle like that.
And y'all know, I fuck Wiley, that's my nigga. But
while not supposed to approach kyb out nothing like that,
Like Kyle's not Kile is not supposed to know who
is if we're being honest.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
He probably knows his name, but not his face. And
I don't think that that's that crazy. No, he didn't
even know. He didn't even know what no, because when
they told him what was, he was like, what what
does he do?

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
K didn't I didn't know that he didn't, but he's
not supposed to know who is. Yeah, he was like
Wally like because then the chat he was like that
was Wally. He's like, he's like, what does he do?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
At first, I thought it was like somewhat of a bit,
but then I think they just capitalized on it because
it became a Nintendo AD. So shout out to Walla
and Kyle for taking that situation and I think making
some money off of it because they clipped that shit
and it kept putting ad everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Well because while was playing a Nintendo when yeah, no,
that's what they were talking about as well. Yeah, but yeah, no, Le,
he wasn't supposed to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Maybe the timing, but you know, in those environments like
it's tough. But he was in the middle of talking
to Stup. I can see the map perspective, but I
guess Way maybe didn't think the mic was on.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
But even if he didn't, you know, shout out to
Kyle Bronch legend. But I mean, Kyle not supposed to
know Whyley why?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I know, I understand it's twent three years old. I
gu yeah, but that's what I'm saying, But what at
what point? Because again, I have made peace with that
media used to be music fans. Now they're fans of entertainment.
They're not music fans. They're fans of entertainment, and the
fans of them are fans of entertainment. They're not fans
of music. If that music becomes entertainment i e. A

(01:08:52):
rat battle, they're fans of it. The new media people
are not like you think Aiden Ross was like really
as a kid, like engulfed in the music. Do you
think all the top streamers were music fans going on?

Speaker 8 (01:09:04):
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
But here's the thing though, But I still think that's
crazy that in this space. And it's not a Kai
thing in particular. And I'm not saying every single streamer
needs to go fucking study from kras one to now
or anything like that, but for all the streamers to
be so much in the hip hop space when it's
convenient and gets clicks, you should have some type of

(01:09:25):
knowledge and respect for certain things. And I'm not saying
specifically with the Kai and wil A thing, but it
is an example where I saw was like, he's twenty three,
and I get that point, but there's no way you
could throw on bad lotus flower Bomb and Kai has
never heard that song.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
Rory, there's a lot of songs you're throwing right now.
But if the artists walked in the room, I wouldn't
know they were for sure. What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Yeah, but I'm saying it was an example, not specifically
with Kai, but more so with a lot of the
streamers that there is no real actual knowledge of anything
going on.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
And I cannot blame and not blame that on these
rappists for going on these streams, jumping on these streams
with niggas who don't know wh y'all aw, but y'all
want to use their platform to pump y'all shit.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
These young things is in their fucking house, in their basement,
just turning their camera on. They're not supposed to know,
you niggas. What Kyle might not know Whoel COOLJ.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
Is if he walked past them, Yes, and that I
was the first fucking rap superstar. So like it's not listen, man,
We got to get to a point where we just
understood listen, we ain't as famous and that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Like who gives a fuck about that shit?

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
Like Kyle didn't do anything wrong, He just did he
genuinely didn't know whoile A was, and that's fine. I
just think that while shouldn't have approached him like you
got you making you made me look crazy, I think
you think because should have approched him and said, damn, bro,
you don't know who I am and just made it
a fun, like light moment, like like I'm gonna send
you some of my music, Like listen to my music.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
This is who I am, this is what I do.

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
Or he could have, I wouldn't have did that. I
would have did it more like, damn, y'all, I'm really unk.
I'm really unk out here like something. But to approach
to me be like, yo, you got me looking crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Yeah? Nah, bro, you don't approach Kyle like that like
he's a young boy, like he don't he not support
I don't know if Kyle would know Nas if NAS
walk past them. Okay, No, I think you dragging that
a little bit. I think you're dragging it. Honestly, I
really don't you think I'm dragging it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:11):
I think you're dragging it. There's a very and this
is not disrespectful. While they we all know, there's a
very big difference.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
But I think if NAS was in that same situation
in that parking lot, and he walked right past Kyle
while Kyle was walking to his car.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
I don't think Kyle would have recognized that that was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Not and I don't think Nas would have recognized.

Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
I think that that's different because Nas is from New
York and Kai is from New York. I think it's
a little bit different.

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
Nas is.

Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
Also, it's like jay Z and then Nas, Like you
know what jay Z and Nas look like. You might
not know the rest of them. Yeah, but the people
you know who they are, and you know who they are.
But let me tell you something, when you see these
people for the.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
First time in peron life, Yeah, sometimes you wore right
past that was who, Like, oh shit, I did that
a lot this week at BT.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Yeah, I was like, that's who.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Like damn, Like she a lot smaller than I thought
she was, Like she's tiny.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
It happens like I don't again, that's you know, it's
just it just it just comes across the way. It's
almost like it's almost like your ego is saying that
people are supposed to know who you are some as
they see you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
And I felt that, but that's just that ego.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
That's the nasty But that's the nasty stigma that comes
with an interaction like that. It's like, are people supposed
to know who you are? You feel like he's supposed
to know you? Why do you feel like he's supposed
to know you? I can, I mean, I can disagree
with the move.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
I don't think it was the right time to say
that at all, but I can respect what was going
on that day, Like that was a long fucking day
for what And we already know. I don't know what
else was going on outspoken while a has been how
he's felt about his career and the credit and flowers
that he has deserved and maybe hasn't gotten. Yeah, it

(01:12:45):
was already it was a long day on the timeline
for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Yeah, else all the way, I don't know, I know
what else you talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Clips was a lot of the Kendrick situation, like and
we already know again post battle how stands are. So
it was it was a long day of killing Walle.
And then I'm sure Walle after all that put his
phone down, got a suit on. I was like, all right,
be outside, at least your little drink, will have fun

(01:13:12):
at the BT Awards. Let me put my phone down,
it's been a long day. And then you go and
run in the fucking guy on your way out of
the hotel and then open your phone when you get
to the awards, like all right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Like he don't know, he don't know who he didn't
know who you were.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
It happens, man, Yeah, I feel for Walle like, yeah,
I think it was a lot going on that day
for him on socials while he's in the midst of
trying to be seen because he's putting music out like
he's purposely doing you know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
But then here That's why I said I would have
approached that differently from wal It goes from Yo, you
didn't know who it was, bro, all right, listen, we're
gonna we're gonna sit down, We're gonna we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
I'm gonna show you who I am. I'm gonna teach
you about wait.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
I mean he did say we'll chop it up later.
But I think the first initial part of like, yeah,
you got me out here looking crazy and no, to me,
that's a little unfair because I doesn't know who you are,
Like that's not coy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
But that's why I'm different.

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
What Kyle did didn't have while looking crazy, well, while
they did after that while.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Looking crazy, But he was where the conversation started. And
I still look at entertainers as human beings that have
fucking feelings. The conversation immediately after that moment turned to
the timeline telling everyone why Kai should not know, while
in a very negative way, like it was just shitting

(01:14:32):
on Wile, like why would Kai know while a he's this, this, this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
This, like all the but that's you know, those are
those people. They don't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Online thrashing before because while he was on Twitter all
day replying to people with the Kendrick shit like he
and of course it takes two like while they engulfed
himself in there, but he's done that his whole career
and we know that. So yeah, it was just a
back to back difference. I wish why.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
I wish people had got a chance to experience and
meet while ay the way, I've the nicest, coolest guy,
one of the coolest, most humble.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
I think, you know, it's hilarious.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
I think Wile is underrated for sure as an artists,
definitely underrated. His catalog and his ability is way better
than a lot of these other dudes that y'all run
to the timeline and praise like, but that's a whole
nother story for a whole nother episode.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
While doesn't lie when he says all these things, y'all
just don't like the way he says it or goes
because people, it's not like he's lying.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
People are looking for a reason to not like wil A,
which is okay, cool, that's people are gonna not like you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Some people love you.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
My thing with wil A is focus more on the
people that love you and support you and think you dope.
The people that got negative shit to say that, you know,
try to play you, that's that's gonna happen. Let them
people do that amongst themselves. You don't have to involve
yourself in that. Focus on the people that fuck with you.
Focus on your people that support you and show up
for you and speak highly of your name and rooms

(01:15:56):
that you're not in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
And that's what you lock in on these fucking because.

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
Half of these niggas online and if half of you
responding to Box half the time, fake Paige is fake
profiles like you, fuck all of that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Yeah, And I mean that was part of false profits
with Cole and I feel like people have been saying
that to le A behind the scenes and on the
mic for years.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Man, but I can see the side of this is
your art. Of course, you're gonna take it personal when
things you feel like you deserve are not met or
not acknowledged, you're gonna deal with. Yeah, but it's still
your heart the way to kaydo. Like, yeah, I again,
I thought it was wrong with saying you have me
looking crazy out here because I don't. I didn't do
anything malicious, Like, no, it was he just doesn't know.

(01:16:39):
He is just like he really just didn't know that. Now,
it's not like he went like he was shitting on wale.
He just didn't know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
And again, you meet you see people, you meet people
in personal seeing them for the first time in person.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
You may know their music and you know, but when
you see them, you're like, oh shit, that's who that is.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
I've done that with people that I actively talk about
in support, but when I see them sometime in real life, like,
oh ship, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Was you know, It's this is the reverse for me
now with the new artists, I'm just like, oh, yeah,
I heard that song. That's what that's the Oh you knew, niggas.
I don't know y'all at all. Oh no recognized the song. Yallo,
that's it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Oh okay, that's dope, Like you know, but half of you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Speaking of some of the Wikipedia pages they put in
front of us of the media room, I was, I still.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Don't know what this is, yo, the little whipping the
kid he got twenty years for a body, Silento, that
push that's he just got sentenced though.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Oh yeah, but he twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Say he got arrested his cousins though he was.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Arrested, he killed his cousin. Yeah, Silent, I missed that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
He just got twenty Yeah, they hit him with a
twenty piece thirty thirty piece no fries whipping.

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
They no fries is fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Yo whipping naye and you know what fun he got
thirty Yeah, you know how crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
I read that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
I was like, this has to be a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
It's like, yo, this is the book.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
This was like he was like the first he might
have been in first stream rap.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
For like, wait, hold on, because I've seen that. I've
seen that mugshot before and the whole time I thought
that was who's a guy that that?

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
I know?

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
I got a body then went on the run and
caught another body while he was on the run making
music about being on the run.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Dude, that was Hurricane Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Hurricane Chris is free. Oh my god, he was just
beating with fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Hurricane Chris was before fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Yeah, he ain't like the fifty came to Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
And I do remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
So it's not Hurricane Chris. I'm talking no Hurricane Carter.
But he was innocent.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
No, yeah, free him, Yeah, he's free.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Tak The whole time I saw that nay nay mugshot,
I thought that was the other guy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Yeah, okay, And.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Maybe I'm proposing myself that all black people look like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
I said, we don't all look alike like that, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:18:54):
That's what I got my mugshots mixed up. Yeah, don't
get your mug shots. Wait, and we don't all have
mug shots.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Yeah, the whippy guys catching bodies, yo.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Silent though silent though silent though, yes, what it is now?
Geek killed his cousin. I was like, what the fuck
is going on?

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
Thirty years silent though, Yo, the sol when the silent
doos is catching bodies.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
I mean to call back to our AI conversation. I
want to make light of murder at all, but clearly,
like you said, the rollout for the younger artists, if
they called a body, do we think that Tata like
if shit isn't moving on the first album, Tim is
gonna have her mark somebody like another AI artist, like
blow up somebody else's computer.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Yeah, they's gonna shut down virus.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
I fired your hard drive, his whole.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Hard drive, give him that LimeWire virus.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Yo, tats out on the run as as an AI person.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
They can't find it in the system like you were.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Is she like Apple has been investigating everything.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
You can't find it no way.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
What's in best by?

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Uh geek squad, y know, we got geeks squad.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
They can't find it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Apple care nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Damn man, my man, silent though, man, thirty joints. That
is crazy. That's a crazy story to know he in
his life ended up like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
I can I can never imagine just hearing somebody tell
me thirty years.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Thirty that was wild this. I learned my lessons soon
as you say thirty years. I won't do it again.

Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
You ain't got to put no rehabit necessary. I'm good,
I am, I am saved, changed man, I am delivered.
I will never do that again.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Thirty years.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
Yeah, that was that was crazy todd about about him though. Man,
such a like fun song. They played at it like
every cookout. If the kids love that whipping they name.

Speaker 6 (01:20:38):
The kids love that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
You can't play Yeah, you can't play whipping Nana at
the cookout.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
No, he got thirty years. He killed somebody, dude, solid though.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
I mean, but the kids were dancing to Mitch catching
a body.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Yeah, that's different. That's different. That's different.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
What's different different?

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
It's different?

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
How's it different? Because this is a song that just different.
The energy in the song Whipping Nay had nothing to violence.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
We didn't understand the tantra.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Clearly.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
I didn't know Silent was out here like that. I
didn't know he was a little more literal with his
Bobby was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Leting you know exactly what it was. This is who
he is.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
What he did was no discrepancies about what Bobby was doing.
But Silent, though, I didn't know Silento was out of here,
laying laying the murder game down.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
That is crazy when I read that ship. Look what
whipping they they got thirty years damn.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Would you have thought the same about Q when he
was djaying and juice.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
He didn't do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
He was there, he robbed the liquor store. He was
in between seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
But you know who your man went crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
My man? No, I mean yeah, that shit man.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
He went crazy and you know Q was dead, but
he and he ain't killed old man will As he
didn't shoot him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
You know you ain't have to do that. Man said
your name fat boy knew he was said today.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Classic movie Juice as.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Also, I love that after committing a murder and robbery,
you run into a dead end the alley. They just
went to a dead end. Yeah, if anybody followed, like
where are we going? Now, that's the stupidest getaway. Playing
a home they jumped and they went to abandoned building
with a dead end. Yeah, they hit the gun that
went to the bandoned building. I'm holding the gun. No,

(01:22:21):
we're throwing that in the river.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Likega. Bishop was like, Raheem's dead.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Nigga, you killed Nigga. I just saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
It's funny as ship Raheem's dead and somebody killed old
man quill As it was shoot nigga.

Speaker 7 (01:22:33):
That was one of our favorite sketches that I ever
that I that we ever did, was you sketch you
murdered that?

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Oh my crib h, we did that. That was very
very very funny. And how you how you get ahead
of like the cops to tell the crime like they
went to grab Q. I got it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:51):
He was a Q No Like, Yo, Raheem's dead and
somebody killed old man Quilla.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
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fuck out of here. No, may you ever been out
to dinner? They asked you to pay the check, they'll
say they get you back later. It's over for that.

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Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
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Speaker 8 (01:24:26):
Go yo, what it is ministerr Boycliff calling in from
East Texas. Man, shout out to the pod. Love what
y'all do? Bro, Keep doing what y'all doing? But I
need some homey advice. So Homie just separated from his
wife for preference. We probably met our wives around the
same time. We was young, probably like twenty four to

(01:24:47):
twenty five something like that. We're thirty now, turning thirty
one this year. So my nigga's back out on the streets.
You know what I'm saying. She took his twenties now
he has his thirties type shit. But anyway, Bro, it's
like I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out what
to tell my bro. Man, I'm trying to. I'm trying to,
like I'm giving him all the like you know what

(01:25:07):
I'm saying, the regular gud vice type shit, like, bro,
get greater or later, Bro, keep your head up, you
know what I'm saying. Keep you know what I'm saying.
And he wasn't that fucked up, but you know, it's
a whole lifestyle change or whatever. And if I'm being
for real, bro, this was a situation we kind of
knew it was coming. Like he the last to know
type shit. But like he's straight, Bro, my nigga, don't
bounce back. He'll be all right in time type shit.

(01:25:29):
But uh, what advice should I give to homie. Man,
should I just be like, you know, knock down the
first thing you see walking?

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Bro?

Speaker 8 (01:25:35):
You know what I'm saying, Just to get the wing
underneath his wings type shit? But I don't know it. Also, though,
he to homie, that's kind of like the serial monogamous,
like my nigga loves a relationship. I'm like, Bro, just chill, hummy,
like you know what I'm saying, But I don't know.
So I kind of I'm trying to like my nigga, like, bro,
you know, focus on you type shit?

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Or what?

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
Man?

Speaker 8 (01:25:54):
What should I be telling the homie at this time?

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Bro?

Speaker 8 (01:25:57):
Love?

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
I mean, should we gear the ad more towards the
gentleman that left the voicemail because he's going to be
the one that's gonna end up in some hot water
if his man's goes out. You have to understand his
girl looked at his friend as this was the couple
that we hung out with as a safe guy. We're
both engaged. I'm sure the girls probably relatively got along

(01:26:18):
like this. I know, if he's going out with him,
everything's cool because that's also an engaged guy, and I'll
be doing bullshit that friend now if he hits the
streets heavy, his fiance is gonna look at him weird,
like what y'all doing out there? That's not the safe
friend anymore. He should be very careful and how he
moves with his friend because that's going to cause arguments

(01:26:39):
in the house for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:26:40):
The idea of hitting the streets just sound crazy to me,
Like it's just so nasty out there right now, hitting
the streets for what, Nigga, if you could get your girl,
go get her back.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
I mean, I don't know. In twenty twenty five, is
thirty one like that crazy to be newly single. Back
in the day, it probably was, but like I don't
people are getting married at least up here. I know
the South is probably a little different, but people aren't
getting married that early anymore. Like it's not that it's
not that crazy at all to get back out there

(01:27:14):
at thirty one.

Speaker 5 (01:27:14):
I feel like, especially like man should get back out there,
Like where are we getting to?

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Like what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
We are?

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
We are?

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
We are we in the club scene?

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
Are we?

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Like you could be in the club at that thirty one?
You can be, but I don't know if you want
to be though.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Ah, But based on the type of club, Like where
do people go, Like, what's a good club to go to?

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
Well, New York has no clubs, right, so like if you're.

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
Down south, you said that she didn't tried to move on,
Like New York has no clubs. That is crazy to
say that this is New York City.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Were talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
I mean the fact that Little Sisters had this run
tells me that because before a club that have two years,
they changed the name and be like, yo, that used
to be CA now room now was this? It's just
Little Sisters just got like that decade run right now.

Speaker 5 (01:27:56):
Yeah, that's it's It's I don't know, man, I mean,
you know, being being thirty one and being single is
not a bad thing, I guess. Just be careful of
where you place your energy though. Don't go out there
just try to jump into the mix.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Of the fuck the first thing that you see, Yeah, don't.

Speaker 5 (01:28:10):
Do that, because that's how you're gonna bump your head.
Don't don't do that. Slow down, go put it in
the new true you know, just just take things easy.
Go out there, you know, observe the landscape, you know,
for learn the lingo. You know what I'm saying, Like
you gotta learn the lingos. Yeah, because you you in
the new this is new territory for you. Even your
whole twenties, you was in a committed relationship. Now you're

(01:28:30):
in your thirties. You don't want to just be out
there just doing anything like you still got to kind
of you know what I'm saying, preserve your legacy a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Yeah, and if he's on the serial monogamous shit, like,
don't go out there and not fuck the first thing wife,
the first thing that you see.

Speaker 5 (01:28:46):
Yeah, that's what I only So just go down here,
go out there, observe, make sure you know who you around,
who you're talking to.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Don't get caught up with the wrong type of women,
Like it's it's tough man.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Maybe even to get your feet wet. Spin the block
with a girl you can trust that's just gonna clown
you for the first night of saying I told you
it wouldn't work out with that bitch, welcome home.

Speaker 5 (01:29:07):
But we spind the black with he was in the
relationship his whole twenties. You spend the block with somebody, find.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
I said, five twenty five they met their fiances. I
think he said, Okay, they're thirty one now, so I'm
sure in his early twenties there was one girl that
that he was walking like somebody you could trust that.

Speaker 6 (01:29:20):
Don't spend the block. Learn from me and Rory. Don't
spend the block.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
But it makes you comfortable coming out of something that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
Don't try to talk over that. R Let let let
the marriage what she said, Let that breathe trying to
pass it. No, no, no, no, we're not getting past
the subject.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Let that breathe.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
That's what she just opened a bottle of red wine.
Let that breathe for a second.

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
Learn from you, and learn from me and Rory.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Spind it now. I promise you. I promise you. We
on a whole new avenue now, Nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Bottle baby, because she takes her ass to one Burger,
one cartwheel and Denzel till.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Now, all of a sudden, nobody better not dim.

Speaker 7 (01:30:03):
With yo.

Speaker 6 (01:30:04):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (01:30:05):
We got new blocks Mount Vernon before. It's whole new
niggas there. I ain't never seen them niggas before.

Speaker 5 (01:30:12):
Fuck the block, baby, I'm gonna tell you right now,
if I see you hanging out with Mount Vernon, I'm
whooping your ass'm.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
She gets your ass out of here, get.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Out of Mount Vernon.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
She's talking like this is some other land. That ship
is up the saw.

Speaker 7 (01:30:27):
Them niggas ain't ship just like us. That's finegas hate
ship smell. I got a new smell, tied the same
old ship.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
Them niggas got front yards and backyards. I will say
that the niggas Maulverna got and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
They take the metro nor if we take the like.
I get why they would want to feel a little
difference a little bit, but they still ain't ship.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Though I know a bunch of niggas maut Verna ain't ship.
That's fine.

Speaker 7 (01:30:48):
But to Rory's point, just Rory telling you to spend
the block because that's what he would do, and me
and him have both learned not to do that anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:30:55):
Because you're a new person.

Speaker 7 (01:30:57):
Go be a new person, Go meet new people, Go
enjoy your life trying to go backwards and relive the
glory days and living your comfort ways.

Speaker 6 (01:31:03):
Don't spin the block. I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
I'm not saying spin the block the way you and
I may have where that then becames the other relationship. Yeah,
like you spend the block. It's like, all right, Well
that didn't work out. So now I'm in a relationship
with the girl I was with before. I'm not saying that,
saying to get your feet wet because you haven't you
been outside fucking a stranger. It can be a little weird.
Fuck someone you can trust. That type of spinning the block.

(01:31:25):
I'm making it a thing that's scary either way. Thirty
one not saying a ten year toxic relationship. No, no,
no should follow this because you spun the block. But
you know somebody that you know what their pussy sells like, you.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
Have some type of record with them, you can you know.
It's just it's a little comfort zone there, not going
in cold.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
And just you're gonna tease you for a little bit,
but that's that comes with it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
Yeah, No, I'm wrong with a little teas when you
newly single, but get the blood going.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Or I mean, I don't know, man, I don't know
your personality. Maybe the best way to get out of
your serial monogamous shit and this break up is to
just go to fuck a bunch of random civilians.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Mm hmm, all listen to some sugar free.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Take that over.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
You gotta just play sugar free. He'll tell you exactly
how to move.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
But I mean again, I'm nervous for his friend because
if if his decision is to go out and you know,
find some random new pussy and really get out there,
he's gonna he's gonna need his mans with him, and
that puts you in a compromising situation. Yeah, and you know,
like what if if your girl still talks to his
ex Like, that's rough. I don't want to be.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
Involved in that. Yeah, man, I don't know who.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Got who in the divorce. That's always rough too.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
You got to ride with you man, no matter what.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
No, of course, but we've even had voicemails about that
type of situation where he had to like quietly talk
to his man's because his wife was like, no, we
got the girl in the divorce. You don't fuck with
him no more.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
I wish my girl would tell me you don't fuck
with him? Are my man?

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
I've never datedly a girl that I think I think
would do that with your homegirl, that's pretty common.

Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
If my girl was to be like, yo, nah, we
ain't what we off that? What if what if he
violated her gave her something she can't get rid of?

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Oh nah, I see, well that's crazy that's out of
your hands at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
It's like, Yo, your son, you would like yeah, and no,
you can't come back in my house.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Like and the fact that you thought you could gig, you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Can't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:20):
Or he had a baby on her, like that's wow,
you can't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Noah. Now baby is different a baby versus an STD.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Both they're both things that stay with you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Yeah, but it basically not a transmitted disease.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Bro. Like, that's not like I've met some kids that
I feel like, Nah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
I beg y'all look crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:33:39):
Just he just told you tomorrow was throwing ship on
his walls.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
The other day talking about home She's giving us some
colors about other people's kids.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Nah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
But I I mean if if my homeboy was dating
my girl's best friend and kind of was like, you know,
that type of situation and he had a baby.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
On her, that's yeah, you probably have to stay out
of that one. That's kind of nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
But I'm not going to stop talking my homeboy forever
though I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
They're in they're engaged, and he has a cheet says
a child's well, they're engaged. That's yes, that's that's that's past.
Ghannahe I'm sorry, So.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
You wouldn't you would never talk to him again.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
That would be a weird relationship. If my wife friends
with like that was that was our crew of the
four of us for five years. Yeah, that's a very
awkward situation.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
I'm not saying he could come to the crib and
still kick it with you while you're I'm not saying.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Like, imagine, but you would never talk to him. No,
I'm not saying, OK, but I'm saying to be a
tough situation to navigate. Like, imagine you come home from
work and your wife and his ex are chilling because
everyone was friends, and it's like, yo, what you doing tomorrow?
I'm going to his baby shower. Like it's weird. Yeah,
I'm not saying it'd be a weird situation.

Speaker 5 (01:34:48):
He probably couldn't come back in my house because obviously
my girl wouldn't want to see him in our house,
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:34:54):
And she can he can't bring the new bitch round, Neiva,
don't bring your new bitch round around who around me?

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
You can't have your If he goes my girl, my girl.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Would never probably hang out.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
Now if if if the game is on and he
having something at the cribby, like you're all pull up.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
I'm not gonna not go to my man.

Speaker 5 (01:35:13):
Really, you definitely could, but he can't come to he
can't be around my girl like me and that you know,
he can't hang out with me and my girl no more.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
And again this went back to one of the voicemails.
But then like when life situations happened. Let's say he's
married to his wife, they have a kid. Now I can't, like,
can I invite my man's to our baby shower, because
that's gonna be awkward having both of them there.

Speaker 7 (01:35:34):
I feel like that happens so often though in that scenario,
well not that exact scenario, but like when they're.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Like I've been in that situation for sure, where you
know there's mutual friends with ex'es and you guys end
up at the same life events like birthday parties, baby showers, funerals.
Funerals are always the awkward one because like like you're
trying to mourn, but then it's always in the like, fuck,
she's here too.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
I gotta put that ship on and come to the
funeral because I.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Know myke's gonna be Yeah, morning, two things here.

Speaker 5 (01:36:02):
I told you about the time my childhood friend like
didn't invite me to their wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Yeah, because that's not crazy to y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
It is. It is like how close were y'all like
at the time, we were closed, We grew up together.

Speaker 5 (01:36:19):
We all grew up together, but me and her dated
at one point, you know a little bit, and then
they got together.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Like it's left out like one of the biggest Yeah,
but that elements of that entire thing. At first, I
was like, this guy sounds like a real asshole. Now
this guy sounds like someone's trying to have a peaceful wedding.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
But why would it not be peaceful? Though, Like I'm
not going yeah, but this was before they got together. Though,
this was years before they got together.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
I can see it being awkward.

Speaker 7 (01:36:43):
He's he's saying me, awkward. If it was that awkward,
you shouldn't have got with her. If it was that awkward,
shouldn't Like.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
If it's to the point where you feel like because
it ain't awkward for me, Like it's all week. Yeah, man,
we was kid, we were teenagers, bro, Like you know
what I'm saying, Like, what the we talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
I mean, what if they're what if both of them
were fine with it, and maybe he actually had slept
with one of her friends before, but they could passed
the past type ship. But then the rule is nobody
at the wedding that you fucked, and you just you
folded into the mix.

Speaker 7 (01:37:15):
Maybe you were one of a couple on a list
that I'm sure that's a lot of couple people's wedding
rule nobody like even if.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
That's your friend like I, but still just not that
at the wedding. I don't know. Did you ever talk
to him about it? No, Okay, I found out. I
mean it could have been a plate thing. I don't know,
because it costs extra. You're the only vegan and now
the chef has to make one way for someone else.

(01:37:43):
Motherfucker like they got they got a deal from the
place and there was no vegan. I wasn't vegan at
the time for the second time, the time they got married,
I was not vegan, pescatary whatever the fuck I wasn't either, No,
I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
I wasn't bestar. I was still eating chicken and shit
it's some years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:38:01):
Well, I mean, what is our expensive Like if you
got to leave somebody off It's like, I'm not gonna
take my mary off so that the nigga you fuck
could be there, Like no, like somebody something. Everybody can't come. Yeah,
open bar, limit four hundred people. Everybody can't come.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
I mean, I'm not mad, but it is.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
It was kind of like word like, Okay, have you
ever had the opposite of why am I invited to
this wedding?

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
And then it's happen to me twice, and I felt weird,
like if I don't go, that's like rude, it's so
on invice you to their wedding they're paying for Like
that's rude as fuss, don't RSVP. And then I got
and I got there and doubled down on my feeling
why am I here?

Speaker 8 (01:38:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Why would you invite me here? We are not close
at all?

Speaker 6 (01:38:42):
Well, some people don't have anybody to invite.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
There was like five hundred people that way.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
If you ain't got nobody invite to your wedding, shouldn't
be having a wedding. Just go to the fucking Justice
of Peace City Hall and do that shit and getting
over with it.

Speaker 7 (01:38:51):
If y'all was beefing at that wind and y'all should
have been fighting at that wedding. Why why would you
bring that to somebody else?

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Clubs A spot on impression? Yo, wait, Baddy's Africa hold
on caught up? How the fuck do we forget to
add this to the BT story.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
Shout out t b Man, Domin the Body Shout out
to dimond Man.

Speaker 5 (01:39:13):
It was such a pleasure meeting that. She's super cool.
I felt like she would be the watching watching the show.
I feelt like she would be really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Me and Peace. We're trying to see if the footage
would work. We was mid interview. Who are we talking to?
We're song Lrussell and then you just in the middle
just started screaming. I think you might have stood up.
You ain't want to add a frame we had just
wrapped in.

Speaker 5 (01:39:34):
He was like, you gotta come down. Yeah, she had
walked over. Shout out to my girl, dom In the
Body Man. She was really cool talking to her man.
She got a she had a new song coming out
and when she next time she's in New York, she's
so much she wants to say she want to stop
by and come come see us, come kick it with us.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
So I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Okay, So I started Baddy's Africa last night, yes, which
which I texted you. Yes, it's crazy and and because
you know it's similar to like Curb. You can started
at any episode. I started at three because I did
want to watch the episode of them fighting for the beds.
It might be the most offensive show I've ever seen.

(01:40:11):
DeMars in Africa in the backyard right at the Batty's house. Yes,
they have a bunch of Africans standing there in the
whole get up with the face paint. They might as
well have a spear. There's the whole crew of them
as the circle just to watch them fight.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
They might as well had a spear.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
I don't know if I like that. I'm saying it
was the stereotypical.

Speaker 5 (01:40:37):
That was the white is looking at it, and let
me break it down to Demarus, Demarus. What it was
was there was a bunch of kids from a program
that are dancers and singers, and they were welcoming the
Batties to the Batty house. And they were standing in
the backyard and they had on their costumes that they
perform in. Rory is making it sound like these people
were in the middle of the fucking jungle hunting for
their food a very nice house.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
I'm saying. They then took after their dance and made
it the circle at recess to fighting while all of
these kids look petrified but did not break character.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
That was awkward that episode. Yeah, they fighting in front
of those kids like that, Like, yeah, that was crazy.
It was all right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
It was a little too on the nose for Baddies Africa,
That's what I'm saying. Like they took the two that
didn't match it.

Speaker 5 (01:41:22):
Yeah, man, it's the greatest right now, I'm all caught
up who was fighting last night and I watched it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
It was like pretty much if the middle of the
movie Blood Diamonds just broke into a bunch of women
from America beating the shit out of each other in
the village. Yeah, that's what the show is.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
Gotta love it, got it love.

Speaker 5 (01:41:40):
But I am looking forward to Dimond coming on the
show sitting now so we can really talk everything baddies
and and have some fun.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
And we did, uh did that interview come out yet
or that that'll be over the weekend. Over the weekend,
we we did bring up to her about at minimum mall,
you know, being involved with the reunion and being in
the crowd with with lights.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Bobby Lights, Rory, gonna keep bringing that up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
He's the host.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
They're gonna keep bringing that here, Gonna keep.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
You people that are host. It's always the last name Light,
MC Light, Bobby Lights, like Malls.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
Two people my last name and my last name made lights.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
So that as Daylight has been to r L battles
that he wasn't performing in. He was just in the crowd.
Is Daylight? Okay? Sure's fine?

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
Right nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
I actually was kind of shocked. I know that's not
his thing, the media room stuff, but I was actually
kind of shocked Daylight.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
Didn't do something.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Really I didn't expect to see Daylight. Daylight is not
the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
So yeah, but he don't really be outside like that.
He not mixing and mingling like that though. Yeah, that's
never been Daylights. That's not part of his brain.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Well, hopefully when the reunion is filmed, Mall Lights will
be there. I will be, you know, hopefully a plus
one if they don't have me a mic, but I'll
be there in my Zoo's T shirt.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Yeah you got the Zoos security T shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
You feel like if it's if something you have to
pay for on subscription should be blurred. You want to
see baddies titties every time they fight. I'm like, you
guys are too horny. You too horny girls fighting and
you want to see titties? Like, what's wrong with That's
you too horny?

Speaker 7 (01:43:16):
That's not even consent. If they wanted their titties out,
they would show you their.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Titty I'm not saying there should be something in the
clause that your naked body has to be there if
you don't want it. You know, they allowed cursing, they
allowed explicit content, so you should see some some you know,
some of them on the reunion. I wouldn't minded it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
We'll talk to you on a couple of days.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
Good, good to be back home. Good to be back
in the city.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Baby D.

Speaker 5 (01:43:42):
I'm watching you. Like I said, I better not catch
you in the Vernon this weekend, but I would be.
I will had to make sure the homies got their
eye out to make sure you're safe. If you're so
happen to be in the Vernon doing whatever it is
doing the Lawd's work in Mount Vernon because they need it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
We'll talk to you on a couple of days. Be safe,
Be blessed that he's a gentle piece. No Willian now

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