NFL Cover Zero: Broncos Comeback, Eagles Offense, Colts Impress, and Cowboys Cruise!

Matt Jones and Drew Franklin open Week 7 with the Broncos miraculous comeback over the Giants.  This win shows why the NFL is so great.  The Eagles found their offense today against the Vikings, who had an interesting approach to try to stop the tush push.  Micah Parsons had a breakout day for the Packers,  

The Rams made it look easy against the Jaguars in London.  Rashee Rice returns for the Chiefs and Matt thinks they're back in Super Bowl form.  Tua Tagovailoa struggles again and it may be time for change in Miami. How does Drew feel about Cam Ward after the Titans loss to the Patriots? The Bears win their 4th straight game. Another impressive outing for the Colts, could they be the best team in the NFL?

The Cowboys offense is coming together with CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens.  How close are we to seeing a 70 yard field goal? Matt is amazed at the 49ers winning another game with so many injuries.  Will Brandon Graham make a comeback with the Eagles? We wrap up with Monday Night Football previews starting with a great matchup between the Bucs and Lions. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. All right,
it's another episode of NFL Cover zero. We are week seven.
Matt Jones and Drew Franklin had some technical difficulties at

(00:30):
the NFL studios Lexington Branch, so we all went back
home and you're getting to see us in our houses.
My sound isn't as good because I don't have the
modern technology of these other guys, but nevertheless, we're ready
to go. Drew, I wouldn't say the most exciting week

(00:51):
of football ever, but maybe a little bit more exciting
than the last week. Did you enjoy today's action? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
I mean any day I get to watch the NFL,
I enjoyed it. Had a nice day on the couch
where I literally just watched about every snap that I could,
dabbled in red zone. But then I watched all of
my Tennessee Titans. I couldn't miss that one. So a
big day for me. Of Ben at Bennett kind of dislike.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
This for you. For me, the problem with red zone
is I hit there's a red zone nap that occurs
that I simply cannot stop. Five point fifteen pm Eastern.
I'm going to fall asleep. Generally speaking, it's going to
be with the Cardinals are going to be on my screen.
That's going to be my last memory, which means there's
going to be visions of Kyler Murray or today Jacoby

(01:36):
Brissette dancing in my head as I fall asleep. But
the five fifteen Sunday Red Zone nap is undefeated for me.
I usually wake up halftime of the second game, but
I have not seen the second quarter of a four
o'clock game yet this year in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Are you able to doze off though when it's kind
of picking up the pace a little bit? Or is
it just the second quarter of this slend.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I'm locked in for the one o'clock games through the
Witching Hour, and I'm locked in for the beginning of
the of the four o'clock games. But when we get
in the second quarter, the Chargers are going to be
playing on one of the screens. They said the Cardinals
are going to be playing on one of them. I
know that's gonna happen, and I'm gonna drift a sleep
and then I'll wake up. It'll be halftime. Hanson is

(02:24):
gonna be telling me how you know, well, you should
have seen what happened in the Panthers game earlier today
and like and then I kind of get back ready
for the end.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It is a good time take a little break before
we get to the night game. I made a nice
soup during the second quarter today. Yeah, I could still
see the game headed on in the background. What kind
of soup did we make? It's an Italian minnestroni soup.
I saw the rest of the on TikTok. I'm very excited.
I haven't eaten it yet. It was for like for lunches,
so I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
So did you when you say make a soup, did
you mix everything together?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, I think I made three different meals today while
watching football. I couldn't do all couch. The back starts
to hurt if I don't get up, move around just
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
For people who don't listen to our Kentucky show. I
made a goal this year of learning how to cook.
Not been successful. I think that's fair to say, really
not successful at all. I think I might might actually
know less about cooking now than I did nine months ago.
So that's gonna now be a twenty twenty six resolution.

(03:26):
We're just gonna fast forward it to another year and
didn't get it then. Been a busy year.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
But you haven't given up on it yet. I haven't
given up. I mean it's not looking good, but I
haven't given up on it yet. Well, let's go. We're
gonna go through these games. I think you got to
start with the game in Denver. Broncos beat the Giants
thirty three to thirty two, and absolutely unbelievable. Forty six

(03:52):
points were scored in the fourth quarter of this game.
Forty six points. The Giants were up nineteen to nothing
to start the fourth quarter. The Broncos score thirty three
points in the fourth quarter, Giants score thirteen. Normally, that's
probably enough to win in the fourth quarter. I could
sit here and go back and forth, but I would say,

(04:12):
if you were trying to show someone who had never
watched the NFL, why is the NFL great? Wouldn't you
just show the fourth quarter of that game today?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, I mean, sure it had a forty six points
or whatever, but it just had everything. You had turnovers,
big phil goals, guys making.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Plays, sad knickers.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Sad kickers. That was hard to watch. Get to that
in just a second. But I saw the you know,
we're big on the next gen stats. We always have
a big next gen stat. They said that fourth quarter
was the most improbable comeback for the seventh most improbable
comeback since they've been doing next gen stats. That's how
wild it was.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know what, it was nineteen or nothing, then it
was nineteen to eight when they made it twenty six
to eight. I really genuinely. I remember they showed Sean
Payton on the sideline. It was twenty six to eight
and they were like nine minutes to go, and I thought,
Sean thinks he has a chance. How naive is that dude? Like,

(05:13):
look at him over there, acting like they're still in
this game. I was mocking Sean Payton for like looking
like this game wasn't over, and then he ends up
having the last laugh. I think part of what made
it great is bo Nix and Jackson Dart. Neither one
of them. They're both young enough and reckless enough that

(05:34):
you believe in any moment something great or horrific could happen.
And I think that actually is part of what makes
it so interesting because in that fourth quarter, they made
some amazing plays and then they made some really stupid plays.
And I think actually having those two kind of swashbuckling
young chaps actually helped quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, you kids and I they both have a little
bit of swagger, you know. Dart had the full extension
for the touchdown that looked like it would have been
a game winner, but shortly before that he has the
horrible interception. He's still doing like crossfield throws you shouldn't
be doing, but pulling them off. But it made for
an entertaining game. I was I'm kind of a closet
or closet sean Payton hater. Did you see when he

(06:13):
got the fifteen yard pilloty there at the end and
how that.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Did for running out on the show?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I wanted them to lose just so he would have
to sit there and eat it.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean, I actually think that pass interference on
that play was a little sketchy. I'm not sure if
it was. I understand why he was upset. I did
like the debate of was the penalty on the two
and they get it on the one or was the
piloty on the floor and they get it on the two?
It sounded like the announcers were kind of fighting with
each other about it. Brian dayball is like running out

(06:42):
Sean Payton's running out. You rarely see though the coach
arguing so much. He hits a flag. That's like something
you see in the NBA with technicals. You don't see
that a lot in the NFL, and in such a
key moment. But they ended up winning the game, and
so it didn't matter. A couple of things that stood
out to me. First of all, Jackson Dart threw one
of the worst interceptions of all time. I mean, he

(07:03):
almost came back and it didn't matter, but that interception
he threw. I mean basically, as long as he doesn't
throw an interception, they probably win that game. But by
throwing an interception, they get the ball in the twenty,
they're able to score quickly. If they punt there, I
think they probably run out the clock and are not
able to win the game. You could not have had

(07:24):
a worst sequence there by Jackson Dart, who otherwise played
very well.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
It was a horrible interception. It would like a guy
made a play or batted ball. I don't know what
the hell he's looking at. I mean he just threw
it directly to the linebacker.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
The linebackers like it feels like you'd seen just for
sheer wits on the side.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I feel like you wouldn't have seen him directly in
front of him to horrible, horrible look for him. But
as you said, it's kind of what you're gonna get
when you've got a gunslinger that just took over the reins.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
He also had two touchdowns scored off deflected passes that
and both of them deflected passes where it deflects and
the guy catches it in stride and keeps running like
that is again, if you just want to see the
absurdity of football, you throw an oblong object and bounces
off one guy, the other guy catches it, he acts

(08:14):
like he was supposed to happen, and then everybody celebrates.
I also need to ask a question about Jackson dark.
You know, I black that people wear under their eyes.
Start with this question, what is it supposed to do?
What's it? What is the it testures the race?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
People say that, but I know I tend to think
that's nonsense.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
The light hits this and stays here and keeps it
out of your eyes.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Do you believe that? Not really, I don't believe it.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
It's more like war paint.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, I don't believe it does anything. First of all,
I've never played a sport where I felt like things
were bouncing off my cheek and going into my eye
and it was and it was somehow that was a distraction.
But all right, fine, you have eye paint whatever. Jackson Dart,
though he only has on one cheek. This is why
I'm a little skeptical of him. Does he only want

(09:11):
to keep the sun out of one eye? He's fine
with the other? I being like, I don't understand Jackson
Dart's eye paint, And as soon as I saw that,
I thought the Broncos would win.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, the eye paint is kind of becoming. It seems
like costplay for some of them, almost like a wrestler,
like they're putting that on. You might have a guy
looking like staying here before long Jackson Dark. He's more
looking like a fifth member of Kiss than the actual
reason where you're supposed to put it right under your eyelids.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Billy, your guys. Scataboo scored a touchdown for the Giants.
He's becoming like a folk hero to people. Can I
be the one person that's anti Scataboo. It feels like
everyone loves Scataboo. Can I be con Scataboo? No reason,
just hater mentality. I don't. Everyone likes him too much,

(10:00):
and I just want to say I'm I'm anti Scataboo.
He's done nothing to me, but I've decided Drew anti Scannaboot.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I love him, and he's good. He's real good. He
had probably close to one hundred total yards today. But
I mean, he's just one of those guys will just
run through anyone, just lowering his head and he is
barreling three knocked over the defensive lineman. A couple weeks ago,
had a couple more plays like that today. He's just
so fun to watch, an old school football player, all right.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
So that brings me to the moment that most stood
out to me. Of course, the Giants score. They go
up two with twenty seven seconds left and the guy
misses the extra point. Now they I believe the Giants
signed the coup kid from it was on Atlanta, right.
I think he is on their squad. Now. I couldn't

(10:49):
be wrong about that, but let's just go with it
and say, in case I think he's on their squad.
I think he's on the practice squad. Bringing him up.
What is the kicker's name who missed two extra points?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
You're right about Coop Graham Godot has been their kicker,
but he's hurt.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
But they have three kickers.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, Jude Macca, Timmy. I believe.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Jude Meca Tammy's Jude not gonna be on the team anymore.
Tomorrow is his name? So he misses. He's apparently a
former Rutgers kicker. I saw in the postgame that he
said his dream was to play in Giants, or was
to play for the Giants and hit a game winning kick,
which is a wonderful dream for a guy that goes

(11:32):
went to Rutgers to have. But then what happens when
you don't hit the game winning kick? You actually miss
two chip shots and you lose because of that? Did
you and the cameras were not giving the guy in mercy?
They showed him twenty five times in the last thirty seconds.
Did you think it was a little much?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I did. And it's not just that they kept showing him,
which the camera. The camera people are already vicious when
they do this, but it's almost like they staged a
sad area for him.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, no one he came and talked to him.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
But there's like this long bitch. He was sitting on
the very end, like hanging on. No one was near him.
I think they dimmed the lights around him a little bit,
and then they just had the four K shot of him.
I felt terrible for him. I mean, you got to
make your extra points, but the tight shot of zoom
and in over and over it was actually breaking my
heart a little bit.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
It felt like, honestly, the way it was staged, it
felt like Sarah McLaughlin should be singing in the background
in the arms of an angel. It was like those
old commercials that she would have about pets that were
being neglected. It was really sad. And the other thing
was kicking is such a like solitary, terrible lifestyle. Nobody

(12:45):
was even trying to act like it was okay. I
mean you could see on the people's faces they were like,
get him out of here, we hate him. Jackson Dart
I think put him in a locker after the game
was over. I felt really bad for him. I don't kickers,
like right now, they're literally on the highlights. They're showing him.
One guy taps his head and then just walks off.

(13:05):
Not good day for him.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So I was wondering this as I'm watching him. I'm
on my twentieth minute of watching him, sitting there sad
because they keep showing him, And I wondered if if
he just literally walked out and didn't go to the
locker room because he knows he's fired.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I'm just so he's gone. This means gets up and open.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I mean if he literally just fired himself, like didn't
go back to the locker room, and walked out to
the parking lot in his pads and got an uber
and stayed.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
In Denver, I mean I would like that. How would
that work? And you also miss kicks in Denver where
apparently like anyone could kick at seventy five yards. He
misses them both, and of course they end up winning
the game. Brian Dayball. I don't know if you saw
when the kick was made, he throws his hat on
the ground like he was. It was almost like a
comic anger moment. He throws his hat on down, throws

(13:54):
his headset That's that may be the game that we
look back and say That's why Brian dave Ball gets
fired because if they win that and they're three and
four with some momentum, it might have been different. Now
two and five probably not happening for it.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, I was thinking Giants are going to go blow
out a very good Denver team through three quarters there
and that Dave All is gonna be fine. They're building something,
and now two extra points could go the other way.
Some coaches. You'll see him comfort the kicker, you know, Sorry, pal.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
We'll get him next time.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Now, not Davo.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
That happened out. He's like, kid, find a job. We'll
see what's next. The Eagles beat the Vikings twenty eight
to twenty two. Jalen Hurts had, you know, people had said,
where's the Eagles offense? Found it today? Devonte Smith one
hundred and eighty three receiving yards. That's a crazy amount.
And then aj Brown, who's of course been topic of

(14:42):
a lot of conversations, one hundred and twenty one yards,
two touchdowns. The quote after the game, Jalen Hurts said,
after looking around, he quote uncovered his swag again. I'm
not sure what that means, but maybe it means the
Eagles are back on track.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
He can call it swag. I think it's more they
just opened the offense a little better. Got You mentioned
Smith's big game, but aj Brown got two touchdowns. He
even had a moment he yelled something after his touchdown
with a mic caught him, like, see what happens when
you throw me the ball? So instead of just kind
of running up the goat with Saquon and Tush pushing
in their way through the season, I think they're finally
realizing that Hurts throw it around a little bit. He
had a perfect passer rating today and they.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Flipped the Sween. He played great and for people who
want to make the case, we often talk on my
ESPN show about how the top four quarterbacks in the
league are generally settled, and then the question is always
who's fifth, because once you get past Mahomes, Allen Burrow,
and Lamar, who's fifth. Jalen Hurts made the case for

(15:45):
fifth today. You mentioned the touch push. Let's talk about
the biggest takeaway of the game to me, which is
the Vikings tried to figure out the Toush push. It
reminds me of in hockey when people would say, well,
why don't you just get a goalie that's really fat,
Like that's always the for people who don't watch hockey.
I like the idea of, okay, we want to stop

(16:05):
the tushu, let's just have someone lay down. You did
you like that?

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Did uh?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
It drew a false start. But even Jason Kelsey I
saw he came out and he kind of explained why
they would try it and said, you know, that makes sense.
They're trying to get low to the point of contact,
just you know, block up every space they can. But
I wondered how you go up to that guy like,
hey man, you're a great player, we love you, but
we literally just need you to lay here.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Just lay down, just sacrifice yourself.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, just you know, I don't know if there's more
of an injury potential there for him, but that's that's
quite the ass to just lay you down at the
line of scrimmage there and have your teammatesuttal over here.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
He did a little Conway tweety lay you down and
softly whispered that they weren't going to get the toush push.
I like the creativity. I mean, you know, for people
who think the toush push shouldn't be illegal, I think
it probably should. But for those that think you don't,
you go, okay, what inspires this this creativity that got
the false star which got him out of the way.

(17:02):
So I just thought it was pretty good. Did you
think the TJ. Hawkinson touchdown? Do you think it should
have been overturned on review? He was very, very very
upset after the game.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I like to call it first, and then I saw
how mad he was, and I'm terrified if you know,
his rage, so I'm gonna side with him.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah. I kind of thought it probably was a fumble
or probably wasn't a catch in completion, but I don't
think I'm surprised they overruled it because the call in
the field. I didn't think it was definitive. I never
understand the whole. If it's not definitive, we change it.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I leaned that it was the right one bets and
it was very close.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Do you feel after all these years you know what
a catch is? No, Like I real the rule about
the follow the completion of the catch where you have
to like lay in, roll over, do your taxes, and
then finish it. I still don't. I still don't really
get it. I still don't really know the moment, especially

(18:05):
when you're talking about on the goal line, where I
thought if you cross the goal line the play was over.
So I've never really understood how that rule works.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, if you're running back, and if you're running you
just get the nose of the ball to barely good.
But a receiver has to roll over three times and
make sure they hold onto it for six seconds.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Works like a dog. I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's very inconsistent depending on the crew.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, well the egos win. Carson Wentz playing the way did,
I think makes it more likely that JJ McCarthy's given
that job when he comes back, But still you could
maybe see it going either way. Did you see there was.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
A Carson Wentz blooper real all from this one game.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
It was like, I see that.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
It was like a season's worth of bloopers all from
just this game. So definitely got.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
To get rid of him. Well, Carson Wentz did get
engaged at the castle in Versales, Kentucky. And for those
of you that aren't from Kentucky, that whole sentence may
sound strange that there is a castle and that then's
name is for Sales and not Versailles, But go look
it up if you've never seen it, There's a castle

(19:13):
and Carson Wentz got engaged there. So I didn't have
a lot, It doesn't have a lot to do with
this game. I just felt like that was something that
I needed to throw in there.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I took his move. I did it a month later,
kind of copycat.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
You got engaged there.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Too, Yeah, like really a month after Carson Wentz.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
You got engaged at like Nate Bargatzi show. Well, we
we went there after.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, we sell you there.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, So Carson and I we're kind of the same
when it comes to the romantic stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
I think you should have gotten engaged at Nate Bargazzi Show.
I think that would be a lot. I think that
would be a better story and probably something your your
wife Abby would have been joined Crackers, h and Cardinals.

(20:05):
This to me was the Micah Parsons is a Packer
now game right, he had three sacks. I was kind
of surprised first game of his career where he had
three sacks. I think I would have assumed that that
had happened in Dallas, but he also it was definitively
when you knew when he was on the field. I

(20:25):
mean on the Cardinals' final drive where they were driving
to try to win the game. They take him out,
they throw a twenty five yard pass, he comes back in,
the announcers go Michael Parsons back in next play was
a sack. I mean it was like literally you in
that drive could see the difference between having Micah Parsons
and not.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, that was, you know, Michah Parsons at his best
that last drive. He absolutely wrecked them. It seemed every
play if he wasn't getting a stat he was forcing
them into make a mistake. He was in the backfield.
It seemed like every time they dropped back. Kind of
been quiet there in Green Bay. He's been fine, you know,
he's had the injury, getting acclimated of things, but that
was by far his breakout game. He's still a nightmare

(21:05):
of a pass.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well. Had kind of been surprisingly, like almost shockingly quiet
up until this point. You felt it today. And he
needed to play well because Jacoby Brissett was very good,
had three touchdown passes. Cardinals had a chance down the stretch,
just couldn't quite make the plays. While the game was fun,
I think the more interesting thing to me was that

(21:28):
the Packers had to sit on the runway for five
hours before they came to the game, So I guess
there were mechanical issues that made them have to sit
on the runway before they came to Arizona. You know,
I had a couple thoughts. First of all, have you
ever been on a plane, Drew where they tell you
they have mechanical issues before? Yes, I have two. I

(21:52):
immediately want them to cancel the fight. I mean when
they say we're having mechanical issues, and especially the longer
it goes, I don't think there's any reason for it
to fly. If you had been on that runway for
five hours, would you have wanted to take off? No?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
And I wouldn't have want have been on the runway either.
I don't understand when they have the mechanical issues. Can
we not step off? Why you all figure this out
and I'll go inside to Chili's Two? Why do I
have to sit here in this hot airplane while you're
figuring out this mechanical Yeah, they don't.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
They don't. They won't let you leave again, that like
almost never happens. I'm with you. I don't like the
mechanical issues, and I also don't understand how they can
just fix it while you're out in the middle. I mean,
I would think there would be need to be a
garage or they need to lift something up. I've never

(22:44):
Every time they do that, I feel awful about it,
and I also start to get in my head when
that happens.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
So I'm impressed the packers were able to get over.
Oh yeah, they did the walkthrough. I saw they played cards.
But the craziest part was they had two planes and
the other one had like staff, not coaches, and players,
just like random staff members, and that one too off
and got the Arizona.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
It's like, why not let the other players turn around
and then let the players go first? Like you have
the media crew and the social media team gets to Arizona,
but your players and coaches. I'm thinking order of personnel
should have gone first off the runway there.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, that'sh I like that, though. The social media people
need to set up and then the players get there
when they get there. The day started in London with
the Rams beating the Jaguars thirty five to seven. There's
very little to say about this game. I mean, Matthew
Stafford played awesome. The game was actually never competitive. I mean,

(23:43):
the Rams were up fourteen to nothing early Travis Hunter
DIDs for his first touchdown ever for the Jaguars. But
it was just it was brutal and it also they
say there was I noticed on social media someone said
that fans in the stadium started singing random songs during

(24:04):
the game, not songs about the game, just people were
starting up songs and they sang apparently Bruno Mars and
they sang Robbie Williams. I guess a British singer that
doesn't happen in America, but it does in Britain. Belli.
Robbie Williams is got to be one of the only
people that is massively famous in Britain. And only thing

(24:28):
people know about him here is they made that movie
with him as a monkey. That was the only thing
that which I also don't think anybody saw. But they
just decided to make a biography of him where he
was a monkey, and he got good reviews. Actually, but
did you see that movie? No, I have no idea
what you're talking about. You don't know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
But no, you're gonna have to explain this one to
me a little mill.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Do you know what I'm talking about. There's a cgi
movie about Robbie. It's an autobiography of Robbie Williams, but
he's a monkey. You are looking at me like I'm crazy.
Do you not know about the Robbie Williams monkey movie.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I do not not at all.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Look look it up. There's a movie where Robbie Williams
is a monkey and it got like really good reviews
and it's called I don't know what it's called. It's
called Monkey Robbie Williams movie, but it exists. I'm not
just crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Although I have to give Travis Hunter one shout out
on it. I don't think he played much defense today,
but they did throw at him one time on DeVante
Adams and he made a crazy cornerback play past breakup
in addition to his big receiver.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, that was a big play. This was This was
his best game for if you're kind of waiting to
see when Travis Hunter was going to have a game.
Even though they lost by twenty eight, this was the game,
all right, Chiefs Raiders, Chiefs thirty one Raiders Nothing where
she Rice comes back after six games suspension, immediately scores
a touchdown. This was Billy's Survivor League pick, which made

(25:57):
him get to move on as well as I won
mine as with the Patriots too, so he and I
are both involved. You are still out of it, Drew
she Rice was gets a touchdown and Mahomes was pretty
excellent throughout the game. There are very few things I've
done my Chris collins Worth with Mahomes the only Tony Romo.

(26:18):
He doesn't moan and pant quite like Collin's Worth, but
Tony Romo starts giggling like a schoolboy with Mahomes as well.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, he looks so good today, and that was someone
that was doubt him earlier in the year. I just
got apologize and admit that I was an idiot for
not considering the importance of Worthy and now Rice in
that offense. I mean, they went to Rice right away
first touchdown the game. They get two in the whole game.
But the Chiefs don't look like they've missed much as
much of a beat since getting those guys back.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well, offensively, they look like the Chiefs three years ago.
I mean, I know they made the Super Bowl. He madeven,
won the Super Bowl two years ago, made it last year,
but they really haven't looked like the Chiefs of the
first two Super Bowls. They really haven't looked like that
since then. But there's I think the last two weeks

(27:07):
they have and today was maybe the one that was
the most impressive to me. I mean, it felt like
they could have scored forty five and obviously if they
kept Mahomes in the game, the Raiders had no answer.
You know, I ranked them last week number one, as
did you. I kind of feel more confident about that
today than I did before.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, I guess you could. Nothing changed for me really
being the Raiders. The Raiders look so bad. At one
point we had Kenny Pickett in. I don't know if
you saw that, Kinny picnict Picket literally took a snap
his first snap as a Raider and fumbled it and
Chiefs recover.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's one of those days, so it happens.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I still wonder about the Chiefs defense a little bit.
Chris Jones had a fun moment that went viral on
the sideline today. I don't know if you saw that too.
He was having a good time. But just a blowout
win for them and they're so back, not that they.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Were left thirty first downs for the Chiefs today. The
Raiders only had thirty plays. That is one of the
more amazing statistics that I can ever remember in a game.
Thirty first downs to thirty plays Romo. I think the
most viral moment of the game, though, is Patrick Mahomes,
who they go to do the thing which he's right

(28:21):
never works, which is where you try to draw the
people off sides and do the hard count. He does it.
You hear him over the broadcast curse, did they have
a microphone on Mahomes? How in the world did that?
How in the world was that so loud?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, that seemed like it was part of the bit.
It was so loud. He says, I hate this. Never
bleeping works.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
And it never really and so Romo's like, oh, it
doesn't work, and then he fakes him out and they
actually run the play and they get the first down.
First of all, Amy Reid is brilliant. I love that
entire sequence just.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Shows they're just toying people now, having so much fun
out there. But that one the Raiders really it truly
fooled him because you can see their defense kind of
stand up, like they're thinking, you know, to go on
and punter. What ever, But I've pulled it off.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
It's a regular.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Ashton Gentz is having a great year. He ran the
ball six times today. Like they're just wasting that guy.
He's having a rookie season.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I genuinely believe if you're not a good team, then
you shouldn't be allowed to have good running backs because
we we we we have no idea if ashion gent
is good. I mean, we just have no idea. And
he he really is wasted on a bad team. It
should be a rule that teams that are bad should

(29:36):
not be able to to draft first round running backs
because because it is a complete waste. He is the
biggest waste of a player and it's not his fall.
But if you don't have the offensive line, it's not
gonna matter.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, you've got a guy who could be special, it
could be Rookie of the year. But then there that
offense is also invested in Gino and Pete, who need
to hang it up. That's showing that that's not working
out for those two.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, harsh to Gino. I love you. I like Gino.
Ain't gonna be so mean.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Rough year for Gino.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
The Browns beat the Dolphins thirty one to six, forty
mile an hour wins in Cleveland. I think we've learned
that's probably where they play the best, best game for
Dylan Gabriel. In those thirty mile an hour wins. Cleveland
had not scored more than seventeen points in the last
eleven games. It had been what'd you say since nineteen

(30:41):
seventy or something that was a different stat but eleven
straight games where they had not scored seventeen. They score
thirty one today in the worst whether they've played in
throughout the whole thing. Probably more of an indictment on
the Dolphins. By the time people listen to this Monday morning,
Will Mike McDaniel still be the coach?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
This is the third straight Sunday who done this? How
is he still here now?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
He said it, He said he's not focused on his job. Quote,
I'm focused on my team. Maybe he should be focused
on his job.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, this has to be the nail on the coffin.
I mean, I don't know what he could do anyway
with two is looking like the worst quarterback in the league.
He has hit another three turnover game. It's his third
three turnover game this season, which is outrageous. So Mike
McDaniel doesn't have much help, but I don't think there's
much much time you can keep in there any longer.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, two was particularly awful, especially after the Latin comments
last week about leadership and all that. I think you
I expected him to play a little better, and he
was really really bad, and the Browns defense got to
the quarterback a lot. I think they're completely in quip mode.
And if I think you have to get rid of

(31:55):
Mike and Daniel if you just want to like Salvage
having a decent year bigger picture, I kind of wonder
if two is the quarterback in Miami. I mean they're
gonna end up getting a high pitch. I mean you're
probably drafting his replacement, right, Yeah, you have to. I
mean quinn Ewers came in the game, took over and
looked better than Ta today. So I think the Tua
area is over and that's probably good for Tua. Go

(32:17):
enjoy retirement to It was fun to watch you for
a long time, but it's he seemed to have lost it. Yeah,
I think that's unfortunate, but you're probably right. I'll as
I seem to do every week. Let me hand the
floor to you. Patriots, thirty one Titans thirteen, your former
coach Mike Rabil comes back to Nashville. Did you find

(32:38):
yourself pulling for the old guy?

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I wouldn't say pulling for him, but it was the
outcome I expected. Titans actually jumped up early. I was
surprised got an early. Phil Golden went up ten to three.
I actually started talking myself into our new coach, Mike McCoy.
If even told you in the past, my old Peloton.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Name Mike McCoy, Yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
My old Peloton name was Bike Vrabel. I thought about
fired up Bike McCoy. I was so excited there for
a quarter. But then the Titans became the Titan. I
mean they lost Big jeff Jeffrey Simmons, the one player
that can do anything. He got hurting. At that point,
the Patriots did whatever they wanted.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
What about What about Drake May I mean there was
a time where it looked like he was like looking
at a potential percentage record. He was twenty one of
twenty three. I mean, are we seeing him hit? We
talked about this last couple of weeks, but are we
seeing him kind of hit like superstar status? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I think so. I saw a good graphic today comparing
his stats last year. In the turnaround he's had, it's
really incredible. He made some great throws today, hit a
long TD that really separated the game. While on the
other side, I've got cam Ward, first year guy that
I hope could make that stuff like Drake May, but
he's backpedaling and fumbling for a scoop and score, looking

(33:56):
like he couldn't tie his shoes. So it was just
all systems failure. After we got up ten three in
that game, had a little.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Bit of hope. Are you giving up on on cam Ward?
I mean, are you seeing any signs that of positivity
or are you starting to question it?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
It's it's the same thing with Will Levis. It's the
same thing with whoever is after him. The entire operation
is so bad they cannot expect anyone to be good
in that position. So sometimes when you see these sloppy turnovers,
remember our guy Levis, you know he had some. He
became a meme last year trying to throw it out.
He's going down a few times. I think they get
to desperation where they're just trying to make plays because

(34:31):
the offense is so bad. So it's really hard to
judge any of them.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well, and this is the third straight guy who was
the quarterbacks from Liberty. Uh what was his name before?
The one before Levis? That led us?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Oh my goodness, Yeah, I went to the Packers. Why
am I drawing to Blake?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
He was our big draft pick. He was our future
Milik Willis.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, Blake Yeah. So I mean you've had three straight
of these guys at some point, maybe it's not their fall.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, and Willis was supposed to be it.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, Mike Rabel, they didn't honor him. What do you think.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
The crowd honored him there? The Fray chants were very,
very lowed through the TV is, mostly at the end
of the game as he was leaving. But he got
a lot of love from the hometown crowd. Not surprised
that the organization didn't honor him with the way that ended,
but Nashville let him know that he's loved.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah. I saw when he came out, he just kept
shaking everybody's hand and he was getting much I think
more people in the stadium were cheering by first of all,
how many people even knew who Mike McCoy was when
he walked out. I mean, do you think any of
the any of the fans even recognized who their coach was.
God had to be a cool moment for Brabell. You
always liked seeing the coach return to the place where

(35:44):
he did, where he won. As a matter of fact,
that happened for a defensive coordinator as well. Dennis Allen
for the Bears was able to get the victory against
the Saints, even though it was at home. The Bears
win twenty six to fourteen. They kind of were rolling
throughout most of the game, led twenty to nothing at
one point, but then the Saints make at twenty fourteen.

(36:04):
I start to get nervous, but the Bears defense bears down.
And now Caleb Williams has played multiple good games in
a row. Bears are four and two. Are you on
my Bears train?

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I'm believing they got the young offensive talent. Was this
four wins in a row, four wins in a row,
should have won that week one game close there?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, I'm a believer.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I've even poked fun at you about Caleb Williams in
the past, thinking he's not the answer. But even though
it wasn't the best version of him today is still
a big win, and they're hot right now.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, I really like what I see. I think he
Ben Johnson's made such you could see flashes last year
that Caleb could play. But I love the decision making
and I love the creativity in the way they use him.
I think they use him absolutely perfectly, and it's nice
to have. It's nice to watch Chicago fans with hope.

(36:57):
I think the Bears fans have been sort of not
down for so long that they almost didn't believe that
this would work with Caleb, and I think it had.
And the Saints like they continue I mean they're one
in six or whatever, but they continue to be competitive
in these games. Chris Olave had a big game today
as well. I still think the Saints are going to

(37:18):
beat somebody at some point this year that it's going
to be a big loss for that team because of
the bad teams. I mean, they're much better than the Titans,
They're much better than the Jets, They're much better than
the Dolphins. I actually think they're the sneaky good bad
team this year.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, and Olave has been great. I don't know if
they wanted to use him as a trade piece at
some point or something. But he's another guy just being
wasted on a great team or on a bad team
because he's great.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I saw it.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Even though they've been close and knocking on doors. It
is their worst start since nineteen ninety nine, So it's
bad times down there in New Orleans to start the season.
Spencer Ratler got hot there for a while, but I
think he cooled off for us.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, he's actually I don't think Spencer Rattler is all
that bad either. Again, compared to some of these other
bad quarterbacks that are playing, I actually don't think he
is as bad as a lot of those guys Panthers
and the Jets. You know, when you see Panthers and Jats,
first of all, you know what you're in for. But
I don't think you knew you were going to be
in for the sound quality they had. It sounded like

(38:17):
an old school AM radio broadcast of a church in
rural West Virginia. They said they were underwater, they had
some sort of technical issue. I kind of loved it.
I felt like I was watching a game on local
broadcast television in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
How about the Panthers Now above five hundred, they're win
a big time and I saw poor mew Mix. They
shut down meow Mix and the Panthers are three and oh.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I'm glad you brought this up. I want I wanted
to talk about meow Mix. First of all, if you
remember a few weeks ago we talked about the Panthers podcast,
meow Mix decided randomly after week four of the season
to quit. Weird time to quit three or four weeks
into the season. I think the Panthers have turned it
around in honor of mew Mix. And I want to

(39:05):
say to the people who run me we have been
trying to get in touch with you. I've been trying
to get in touch with We've had the NFL trying
to get in touch with you. Meow Mix is now
officially in What happened to them? Are they being held hostage?
Where is meo Mix? And what? And now they don't
get to celebrate. What is a Panthers turnaround?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
No, they're they're doing what they have to do. They're
taking one for the team. If they come back and
then the Panthers lose, the fan base will kill them.
So they just have to stay hidden. The Panthers are
three and oh. Since they've been gone, there's no way
they can come out now. They have to stay quiet
forever because they're they're stepping away. Actually worked, and I'm looking.
I don't know many Titans podcasts, but if there's a

(39:46):
Titans podcast out there, I need you to unplug and
go away.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Its gonna work for us.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Maybe we'll string off three wins in a row.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
You did get a moment today where it was Andy
Dalton versus Tyrod Taylor. I think that is. Actually it
is twenty twenty five and we had an Andy Dalton
Tyrod Taylor game. I think that in and of itself
should he celebrated.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Imagine you weren't watching the game to see, you know,
Fields get pulled and keep it up with things, and
you just happen to be scrolling through and Tyrod Taylor's
throwing against Andy Dalton on your television with bad solid quality.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Exactly well, you would have thought it might have been
a game from two thousand and six, and you just
happen to have turned it on. But yeah, it's exactly right.
You are looking live at an empty Jets stadium for
Panthers versus Jets. Justin Fields, by the way gets benched.
Is his time done now? Maybe his time as a
quarterback period. I mean he's now had kind of three

(40:42):
failed opportunities in a row. You do kind of wonder
if maybe today was one of the last two ros
for Justin Fields period.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I think that was it. I mean he's looked bad
all year. I mean a couple of times he's made
some plays with the speed, but he just can't see
the pass rusher of Buetz coming at him.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, and you fail with a with the Mayors and
Steelers and the Jets when you're one and six and
you're getting benched for Tyrod Taylor has been in the
league forever. Probably not the best side, No, no, no,

(41:25):
Probably the most impressive result of the day. The Colts
go to the Chargers thirty eight twenty four, a huge winn,
and they were up big the entire game. Daniel Jones.
At this point, you have to say it's real, right, Like,
it's not a fluke. When they're six and one, they've
got the most wins in the NFL, they would be

(41:46):
the AFC home field advantage, and they're winning games on
the road like this, definitively, it's not a fluke anymore.
Daniel Jones said. The meat clearly the media didn't know
because they don't know anything about football and saying they
weren't going to be good. I don't know how anybody
could have predicted this. You're officially impressed.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Right, Oh yeah, actually been impressed a couple of weeks
because the teams are beating Art Flukes. So they're not
just out there beating the Jets and the Dolphins. They're
beating good teams. They're not turning the ball over. I mean,
they've had that stat They went three weeks to start
the season without turning the ball over. He didn't have
any today, and then his running back, oh, just another
three touchdown days. So the Colts are for real. It's

(42:25):
crazy to say they could be the best team in
the NFL, but they literally have the best record.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Are Yeah, I mean I don't think they certainly, they
certainly impressed me today. I had that game on a
lot of the time, and even though Justin Herbert had
four hundred and twenty yards, right, so that looks like
an amazing game. I feel like the Colts were on
him the entire game. I mean, part of the reason

(42:49):
he had four hundred and twenty yards. They were playing
from behind the entire game, so he had to throw.
But the amount of pass rush that team gets is unbelievable.
Herbart got beat up. I mean, I don't know what
his final total of sacks he took was, but he
got hit an un believable amount of times. And you
show that defense with Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones. I mean,

(43:13):
I keep waiting for the other shoe to fall, But
I don't know, Drew, maybe it's not gonna happen. Maybe
all you had to do was get rid of Anthony
Richardson and you have a good team. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
I think the Colts are for real, and I think
the Chargers can still get back to play better. They've
lost three or four, but as you mentioned, that offensive
line is so bad. I don't know what they can
do to go out and find help. But they have
to go out and get help on the offensive line
because the moment all got hurt a few weeks ago,
and they have a few others. His stats have been
like he's has the most pressure, sacks, hits everything. I mean,

(43:45):
he's just getting absolutely killed and running for his life
these last three or four weeks.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
I do want to note on a crowd shot during
the game, they showed someone in the Chargers crowd and
they had a sign and here's all that The sign
said fun. That was it. It just said fun. He
didn't say let's have fun. It didn't say having fun.
It just said the word fun. And I was sitting

(44:10):
there thinking, what is the mindset that leads somebody to
bring a sign it was hand painted to the game
that just says fun? What can you What is it
that they could have been thinking. It reminds me of
many years ago. WWF had a pay per view in
Cleveland called Invasion, and back then Drew you know this,

(44:34):
in wrestling, people would try to make the most creative
or vulgar or like Innuindows signs possible. And my friend
DJ and I snuck into the fourth row of Invasion
and we were very excited, and then this woman sitting
behind us said you don't have tickets here. Those are
not your tickets. And we were like, oh, they're not,

(44:55):
but will you not kick us out? And she said, well,
you're tall only if you hold my sign up in
the air. So like next to me was a person
who said who had a sign that was like rock
bottom my face and the other one was like stone
cold twenty four to seven, whoop, And I had to
hold up her stupid sign which was glitter, and all

(45:16):
it said was invasion. That's all it said, invasion. So
everyone else had these creative signs, and I was in
the line of the camera and I'm holding and now
I'm holding a rainbow glitter sign that just says invasion.
That's what I thought of today with the first in
the Chargers just holding up a sign that said fun.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
They were you maybe they were part of a bigger,
bigger operation. They got separated from the group. It was
supposed to say Chargers football is fun, but they got
different tickets and they got lost from the group and
still went through with it.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
And somebody someone was just holding up a sign as
it is, that's all it said.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I went to college game day basketball at Rock many
years ago. I was in college and they had dry
erase signs that they passed out to the student section.
They were part of that real quick. That was bad.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
That's a bad decision.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
They went and took them, passed them all out. They
went and picked them all right back up about thirty
minutes later.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
If Emai knows why the sign just said fun, I
would be fascinated because I've racked my brain all day
thinking why would a sign just say fun? I still
don't have the answer. By the way, I thought on
the camera there, I thought you just pulled out a
cigarette and started smoking. I was like, no, it's like yet,
I didn't even know you smoked, and you decided to

(46:32):
do it tonight at midnight for the podcast Cowboys Commanders
forty two twenty two. Definitively great performance by the Cowboys.
Dak was awesome and it is clear George Pickens and
Cebee Lamb together now that Lamb's back, that is a
that's impossible duo to defend.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
That offense is pretty dang incredibly. I mean even their
running back Williams has been good. Tight end Ferguson has
stepped up Pickens and Lamb. I wonder how they could balance.
You know, Pickens got a little bit of personality, he
had problems in Pittsburgh. Turns out this fresh start has
been great for him. But they are just a nightmare duo.
And it's not that they're just getting open. I mean

(47:12):
they're making some toe tapping highlight reel catches throughout the game.
It was just a fun one to watch as they
piled on Washington today.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Some people think act like kickers are offense because I
guess they're scoring points. Well, that's true, and you throw
in Aubrey the kicker, the combination of dak lamb Pickens
and Aubrey. I don't know how many teams have a
four you know, a four person group better than that.
I mean, the only ones you could say, I don't know,

(47:41):
maybe maybe Jalen Hurd, saj Brown, Sakwon Barkley, maybe you
know Mahomes, Kelsey Worthy, etc. And the kicker who is
given political speeches on the side. I mean, but I'm
not sure anybody would be better than this group.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
And Brandon Aubrey is a weapon unlike anything we've ever seen.
He gets sixty one yards with ease, and it was
like perfectly centered. It went right over the top of
the post. But it would have been good from seventy five.
And when he made it, they said, he already has
the record for most sixty yarders in a career and
he's only been around a few years. From the moment
he got up on the couch when his wife said,

(48:19):
oh you should go try that football thing, and now
look at him I mean.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
He's but I still don't know. We've talked about this.
I don't know how much I buy this now. I
think I think all these records say that the fact
that the kickers now get to massage their balls before
the kicks, I don't think it's I genuinely think we
have to look at it differently, and I wonder if
coaches are coaching differently on it, like now you're in

(48:42):
field goal range when you're at the forty five yard line,
and I think it does. I think it's gonna lead
to kind of a revolution. I'm gonna make you a
prediction the NFL in the next couple of years is
going to do something to make it to where they
because if they don't change something, we're gonna be kicking
seventy yarders regularly.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I'm ready for the Cowboys to try it. I'm hoping
we get a scenario where it's an end a half
or may you're up big. But I want Brandon Aubrey
to get a moment to try to break the record
and kick one from seven.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
What is the record? The record sixty seven.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
And the preseason the guy hit the seventy yarder, but
it didn't count for the preseason for the record. So
the official records in the sixties, but we have seen
a seventy yarder go through this year. Cam Little with
the Javars.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
When I was a kid, I knew very little about
records in sports, but I could have told you Tom
Dempsey had the field goal record. It was sixty three.
It was just one of those things that everyone knew.
It was like you were told, yeah, the record for
most games played is this, The record for field goal
is sixty three. And then I remember I think it
was Jason Elam maybe tied at one time, and then

(49:48):
since then it's like a record I can't keep up with.
It feels like it changes so quickly.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
And with Aubrey, he's just insanely accurate too. He's going
to be one of the most accurate kickers of all time.
I'm wondering when it comes time to get to the
negotiation with table with him, he's so valuable.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
That's a great question.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I mean, when when you can when you have a
guy who, as soon as you can cross the fifty
is gonna get you three points, I mean, that's that's
a kicker that deserves it.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
We've seen the Jerry Jones is very reasonable in negotiation,
so I think that I think it should be I
think it should be no problem to be able to
UH to re sign Aubrey. And you also got to
see one of my favorite things, which is the four
thirty Dallas Cowboys game with the sun through the whole
of the roof. I always enjoy that. You never know
where it's gonna glare. It gives such it is such

(50:39):
a bizarre I don't know if it's a home field
advantage or not, because George Pickens ended up dropping a
pass because of it. What do you make of the
light problem they have when they play these mid afternoon
games in Dallas. It's insane that they haven't fixed this already.
Last year, Ceedee Lamb dropped a routine pass that hit
him in the chest, but in the in the replay

(51:00):
you can literally see that he's blinded. He says in
the postgame press conference, he complained about it. So if
you're all pro wide receivers dropping touchdowns at home and
complaining about it, how have you not already fixed it.
It's not an advantage that's happening to your own guys. Yeah,
Jane Daniels hurt. We still don't as of this moment,
know what's wrong with him. That concerns me a little bit.

(51:22):
The fact that they haven't heard anything suggests to me
it's more than nothing. With Jane Daniels, Marcus Mariota came
in through an interception, picked six pretty quickly. I mean,
the commander's the entire outlook for the team changes if
they're out. This year, there were a lot of people's
pick to go to the Super Bowl. I think they've
been slightly disappointing, and if they lose Jaydon Daniels probably

(51:43):
that's that.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah. I mean, I think ham Streen. I don't know
how long that could keep him out, but Mario has
showed today that he can't hold him on. He gave
him two good weeks a few weeks ago, but that
pick sixty through today was embarrassing. They have no hope
if Jayde Daniels isn't healthy.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
He cut his hair though, by the way, after you
gave him a hard time about that gray hair, he
cut it a little bit shorter. I think you may
have shamed him, which I don't think was very nice
of you. San Francisco, San Francisco and Atlanta plays Sunday
Night football. After a bunch of weeks of banger Sunday
Night games back to back to back, you get kind
of a dud. San Francisco wins twenty to ten. Michael

(52:21):
Pennings Junior kind of got hurt at the end. We'll
see what happens with that. Matt Jones plays pretty well,
but the story is McCaffrey seven catches, twenty three carries,
he had thirty different attempts to the ball. He's basically
the forty nine ers entire offense, and it was enough
to get the win today.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, I mean they needed him there, even though Kittle
came back. He was very quiet. I don't even know
if he had a catch tonight. But the team that's
been so banged up and missing everybody, McCaffrey pretty much
was the offense. He went out and won of the
game tonight, So that was huge by him. Mac Jonesty
pretty many mediocre night. It was all McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah. The I am impressed though. I mean there you
have to give San Francisco credit for how they are
able to keep it going with all these injuries, including
a quarterback. I mean, Matt Jones comes in We've talked
a lot on this show about their schedule. I mean,
they can be they can be mediocre and still win
a lot of games, and they're still on pace to

(53:20):
do that. So let's go over some news items to
end the show. Doug Martin passes away at the age
of thirty six. Billy is not able to be on
the mic, but that was his former one of his
most beloved players with Tampa Bay. So of rest in
peace to Doug Martin. We don't know any more about it,
but I know Billy would want to give that a

(53:41):
shout out. Brandon Graham from the Philadelphia Eagles sixteen years
he played, then he retires. They say, Mike, come back.
I don't understand how guys who aren't doing anything for
can just all of a sudden come back after not
playing and be ready to go on a field, especially
in a position like a linebacker.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Yeah, it's taking off so long, but I mean the
answers were in front of us. We just talked about it.
We got Andy Dalton versus tyrod Taylor. We had Aaron
Rodgers versus Joe Flacco. I think everybody's seeing these forty
year olds. I think Brandy Graham is probably pushing forty
thirty seven thirty eight ish. I think everybody's like, well,
you know what, I'm gonna go give it a go again.
If he's old men or in primetime showing off, I'll

(54:23):
give it a try.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Well.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
That Aaron Rodgers Joe Flacco game was kind of amazing.
I have to say. I mean, I'm an Aaron Rodgers hater,
but he was great. And then Joe Flacco, I mean,
Joe Flacco really is an inspiration because Aaron Rodgers is
like an otherworldly talent. He's a Hall of Famer, but
Joe Flacco has kind of just been above average dude

(54:45):
his entire career, and even as above average dudes in
his forties still playing, gets traded in the middle of
the season, then goes and beats Pittsburgh in a game
that was crucial for the Bengals. He might be able
to hold down the fort until Burrow. Joe Flacco just
continues to impress me. I don't think he's ever going
to retire.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
I agree, And that game was so fun. I was
excited to watch it, maybe expecting him be kind of
just two old guys running around trying their best, but
that was a heck of a shootout and combine for
seven touchdowns. And even though Steelers have still de lead
in the division, I'm not sleeping on the Bengals anymore.
After watching Flacco connect with Chase sixteen times in that game.

(55:27):
I mean, that offense looked good. He can keep it
together until Burrow's back. I believe in it.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I think Kirk Herbstreet was saying during the game talking
about Jamar Chase, like are we looking at one of
the best ever? And I kind of wonder, like he
seems as unstoppable. I mean, there were guys in like
Randy Moss who were unstoppable in part because their physical
gifts were so amazing. But like for a guy who's

(55:53):
little the way Jamar Chase as good as he is,
I kind of hate that he's losing bits of his
career when Burrow gets hurt. But he is an he
is to me, he's the most fun player to watch
as a receiver in the entire league.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
And when you're seeing what Flacco's done with him where
you had this record setting night a couple of nights ago,
it kind of makes me wonder, like, Jake Browning, did
you just not see him like he's always opening, Like,
did you not want to throw it to him? You
have jamar face? How are you not able to get
it to him? Just a little bit?

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Poor Jake Brownie. I don't know why I feel bad,
so bad for Jake Browning. But when you have a
job for a number of years, you lose it. A
forty year old man comes in like dipping with Greg
gray Beard and does better than you. It's got to
make you a little bit self conscious. Hi, let's finish here.
Monday Night football. Two games. I don't know. I don't

(56:45):
love the two games because I think it's gonna be
hard for me to stay up for the second one.
But the first one's great Bucks and Lions. This will
be i think one of the better games of the season.
I'm excited to watch the Lions defense against Baker Mayfield.
Who you got.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I'm gonna take the Lions, but if Baker goes in
there and does it well, I'm not shock me. Obviously,
there's a two of the best teams in the league
right now. I'm going to take the Lions to win
it just because they look so good lately. But I'm
I'm about to become a full Bucks fan with Billy.
They've been so fun this year. I'm looking forward to
watching this one.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Lines are five and a half point favorites. That feels
a little high to me. I mean it feels a
little high considering that I think the Buccaneers can win
the game. I'm gonna pick Detroit to win. But I
think if I were to do the game, I think
it would take the five and a half plus Tampa
Bay plus two to twenty five is not ridiculous. The
ten o'clock game is Texans at Seahawks. I love my

(57:42):
guy Dan Orlowski, who I used to do the radio with.
He has tweeted more about the tennis game than any person,
like he's doing the game. And he said to me
or he said in a tweet earlier today, Texas and
Seahawks is the kind of thing that makes you love football.
And I don't know what he means, like, how does

(58:04):
Texans and Seahawks make you want to love football? The
question is can I stay awake for this game? And
I think the answer, since it starts at ten o'clock
Drew is probably.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Now, are you sure he didn't mean Texans at Seahawks
will test how much you love football, Like, we're gonna
really find out how much you love football? Ten pm
a Monday night. Are you in for? It should be
a good game. I don't know if I'll catch it
being that late. I'll give it my best. I'm like
Flackow and Rogers and you. I guess you know I
need my need my sleep that late at night. But

(58:35):
I don't know if this is one that you know,
this loved for football.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Like you said, well, it's a long weekend for football.
I mean, when you're where you go, you start with
Thursday night. Then Louisville played Miami Friday night. You had
a full day of Saturday football games. Our Kentucky Wildcats
played Saturday night. I finished my post game show at
one fifteen in the morning. I got up at nine
am to do ESPN. Now it's twelve thirty at night
and we're doing it. The chances of me staying for

(59:00):
Seahawks Texas, I think that's too much to ask of
any man. So I'm gonna go ahead and say to you,
the NFL zero listeners, feel free to let me know
how it goes, and I will I will make sure
to appreciate all of your comments.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Well, are you're not excited about Sam Donald late night?
He's been pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
You're acting like Sam Darnold is not a part of
my thoughts every late night, and I don't think it's
I think we can take one evening evening. All well, listen,
Thank you all very much for listening. We'll be back
on Wednesday to join you again. Drew, it's nice to
see you. Who is that John Daly behind you there?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
We're oh my nme les.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Is that John Daly?

Speaker 2 (59:47):
No, it's just at the Masters. They have a know
him every year. This is the year I went. I
got to know him.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Oh well, see, I didn't even know that was the thing.
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