Andi Petrillo on the Mic: Jumbo Joe Stories, Dan "the Man" Muse and the Two-Horse Calder Race.

With former teammate Joe Thornton being inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame, Jason Demers shares his favorite Jumbo Joe stories. He and Adnan Virk also discuss the struggling Capitals, Dan Muse's work in Pittsburgh and the Calder Trophy race between Matthew Schaefer and Ivan Demidov. Then Andi Petrillo shares her favorite on-air moments, the challenges female broadcasters face and the time Brian Burke yelled at her in Afghanistan. Finally, the guys get into the devastating Blue Jays loss and why the Seattle Kraken won Halloween.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
The Toronto Blue Jays.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
In addition to that, we have an outstanding guest, Andy Petrilla,
a friend and colleague of both me and JD's on
Prime Monday Night Hockey and on Coast to Coach.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
She is an excellent new book.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Out called Just Call Me Andy, Sports Stories from a Trailblazer.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
You can get that book out now.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's absolutely fantastic and of course lots of great hockey
talk with.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Her and other stories and also some goalies getting taken
care of. The kids are all right.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
But we begin with the Vets JD Hall of Fame
in Toronto on Monday. The latest class in the Hall
will be inducted. This year's class, how about Zadano charge
just a mountain among men. Joe Thornton will get to
Jumbo Joe story Sminia second, Alexander mcgilney, who for years
I'm like, how's this guy on the f All he
did was score goals. Finally, and now finally you're gonna
get Almo in there. Let's talk Jumbo Joe. People think

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of you, that think of the Sharks, that think of
San Jose. What are your favorite memories of your time
of Joe Thorn.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
I mean there's a there's a bunch of them. I mean, Jumbo,
there's so many stories. Uh, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna,
we're talking. I can't wait to talk to Andy Petrello today.
But we're gonna share some Jumbo Joe stories together, me
and her. But one that always comes to mind is
is my first year in the league. You know, you're
on the road and you're you know, you're staying in

(01:39):
a hotel and and uh, sorry, not my first year is,
but my second year, you're staying in You're staying in
the room in the hotel and and you know, after
practice it's the wine down time. You maybe get lunch.
Just before we had lunches at the rink, so you
maybe order lunch from the hotel and just hang out
a bit. And I get back to the hotel room
and you know, Jumbo Joe knocks on the door, and

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and uh I opened. I said, yes, oh Joe, what's up?
And he goes, hey, walks into the room and goes,
let's order some food. So I'm like, okay, so you know,
we order some I order some food. And typically every
time we did that, I footed the bill, but he
would always he would pay any other bill, any at
any restaurant we were ever at, or any bar, he

(02:22):
would pay the bill. But if it was in the
your hotel room, you paid. And he came in literally
ordered a movie on demand, which you know at those
hotels they're like nineteen ninety nine at that point, they're
like the most expensive movie ever that you're renting on
the TV. So he rents. He rents the hurt Locker.

(02:42):
Now he rents the hurt Locker.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
And pet Catherine pig a look great.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Movie, Yes, great movie, yeah, Jeremy Renner. And this is
after he ordered food. Orders the movie gets under the covers,
my covers. The bed was made slides underneath it kind
of shimmys himself under, so he doesn't undo the rest
of the bed, just kind of gets gets in a
little burrito, needs to take a nap, takes a nap
through I would say three quarters of the movie to

(03:10):
the whole movie. The food the food is ordered, yeah, exactly,
So now I'm sitting here on this couch with a
Hall of Famer next to me, sleeping, and I'm like, well,
I guess I'm watching the hurt Locker today. So I
sit there watching it. The food comes, I deliver the food.
It's in front of his it's right in front of
his bed. He wakes up, you know, last thirty minutes,

(03:33):
eats the food, watches the movie, takes a shit in
my bathroom, and then says hey, but that says that
says hey, Bud, thanks. He takes off, and I'm left
to sit there being like, how do I unpack all
of this right now? I don't understand it. I was
like that, you know, and it's just that's jumbo Jo.

(03:56):
That's just there's so many great stories of him from
you know, one of the other good one I have
that I always like to tell us. He was worried
that the team wasn't close enough. I can't remember what year,
so he decided to at the San Jose Sharks at
the SAP Center at the game rink.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
He had a.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Wild idea to take off the the bathroom doors completely.
So we got on his back with a drill, took
off all the bathroom doors and left and left the
shitters exposed. So if you were to go and if
you were to go and take a deuce, uh, you

(04:41):
would be exposed to everybody like you were in prison,
and like you were sitting.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
In prison.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
And it lasted, I think like a week, but guys
were like, I think that was the most poop scared
you've ever seen. Guys were like going like different places
in the ring. And of course you don't Jumbo, there's
the Jumble's not doesn't have an ounce of shyness in
his body.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
You know, he's just sad eyes.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
And again you gotta remember, like the shitters are close
to the shower, so you're coming out of the shower
and you're like, what the hell is going on right now?

Speaker 4 (05:15):
And coaches are.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Walking in like looking like she like so, and guys,
you know, like I said, guys are like running around
the rink. So finally they put the doors back on,
but he was on there with like a drill taking
the doors off to get the boys closer together. And yeah,
it's just one two of the million stories of Jumble.
When you come into the rink and just every day

(05:37):
was to be a two year old kid and I
think he still has kept that and I mean it's
amazing to see him. He's gonna cry one hundred percent there.
I can bet anything that he will be crying at
that event because he's an emotional guy and he's like
it's just one of those things. He's just wears his
heart on his sleeve. So amazing draft class when you
look at the not draft class. Sorry, yeah, Hall of

(05:58):
Fame inductees. Just amazing, amazing group. So it's congratulations too,
all of them.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I love those stories. I did not think we're going
to go in the shitter, but that was.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, a lot of poop stories, Yeah, a lot of
poop stories for uh, there's a lot of poop stories
for for that that era team that we.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Had scatological sense of humor. All right, Yeah, pretty good
weekend for the kids. Both called their front runers, Matthew
Shaeffer and Demodov, huge moments of the respective teams. On
Saturday night, Demodov scored the tie goal against Ottawa two
and a half left in regulation. The next day, Shaffer
scores twice, including the game time goal sixty seven seconds
left in regulation against Columbus. He becomes the youngest defenseman

(06:37):
in hockey history of the multi goal game passing Bobby Orr,
Shaeff red and assists Tuesday night against Boston. Demanoff one goal,
one assist against Philly feels like right now, JD. The
Calder's a two man race. Everyone was talking about the
demo got the start of the year. You were in
on Shaeffer.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
This is really really impressive stuff so far.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, did I did I take Schaeffer early because you
said demoof You're like, it might be a little bit overrated.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
You know, I'm not crazy with him for Calder, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I wouldn't keep it a flyer on Schaeffer because once
he has the team, You're like, why he.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Was supposed to be a fifth or six defense be
he's their best player.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, he's their best player.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
They what I what I do like recently, Well, there's
like some games that he plays a little less he
was playing.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
I mean, he's playing a lot of minutes.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Man, I think I honestly think it's it's Schaeffer's right
now as much as Demitov. As you know, Devnoff has
the electric factor, like you know, you you watch I
watched that game last night. Uh, that comeback. I mean
they had what I think it was four goals on
like nine shots. It was something crazy. They were just
getting their ass handed to him by Philly, and but

(07:37):
they he has that capability as.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
A game breaker.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
And when you have that game breaking ability, it's just
so fun to watch those guys because every time they
touch the puck, whether they're having the worst game ever
or they're you know, they're lighting the world on fire,
they're just so at the moment's notice, they bring you
out of your seat and Mike Johnson shout out to him.
You know, he kind of captured that beautifully last night.
He's just like he's one of those players that just

(08:01):
every time you touch the puck, you're kind of on
the edge of your seat. You're lifting up, You're ready
to jump in a moment's notice, because he's just plays
the game with such a you know, a level of
you know, carelessness, but that paired with his skill is
just it's so amazing. Like he doesn't know, he doesn't
believe that he can make a mistake, if that makes sense.
And when you when you have that belief, like even

(08:22):
when you are making a mistake here, it's the water
off your back and you go right to the next play.
And I mean, he's he is very he's something special
in terms of the electricity that he provides for that building.
And I mean, there's nothing better than watching a Habs
game when they're in Montreal, when they have a guy
like that that they love and their cheer and demmy god,

(08:42):
dab damn me, Like there's no better feeling and no
better atmosphere to watch. So he's he's for sure. But honestly,
what Shaefer's doing is absolutely incredible. I mean, eleven points
in thirteen games. He's playing first power play, penalty kill,
a second penalty kill, he's playing big minutes, playing against
the top units, and he's producing at a high level.
So to me, it's it's very much. Ah, I'm on

(09:07):
the you know again, I can't say Norris, that'd be
way too much. That'd be too crazy to say that
he's in that conversation, but because I still think he's young,
but I just think he for me, he's the calder
right now, hands down.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
We're in Montreal a couple weeks ago for saber STAPs.
I asked Marty about Demondoff. I said, you know, this
guy's gonna call the demigogue before he's even done anything,
Like how do you how do you shield him away
from those expectations and he goes, well, we're not aware
of it. I said, what do you mean you haven't
heard him? And he goes, no, I now that you
say it, I'm sure people are saying it goes. But
we don't focus on that, Like we don't get up
and read our own headlines like I know in Montreal
I do.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's what I said. I go, I think most players
would be aware.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I'm always reading my headlines.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Kid me, I go, you tell me guys don't read
the Montreal Gazette. He's like, no, they just get up.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
We're just playing.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
We try to block out limit distractions, like go, I
don't know how you can do that because you're a
hyper on. This guy's pretty insane, and I would think
it's around his support staff and coaches to go forget
about what they're saying, just focus on the task at hand.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
That's easier said than done, especially in a city like Montreal.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, I think, and to his point, he's right, because
in Montreal, Toronto and Canada there's media training. You have
to stay out of that stuff because it'll drive you
nuts because that's the fan base. Is a lot of
that fan base, that's their life, Their life is following
that team. That's the fandom that we talk about. It's
just next levels. It's just really there's not much like

(10:24):
it when you're a part of it. So you have
to kind of find a way to disconnect because when
it's good, it's great, but they can make you feel
like you're you know, I've always said Canadian teams overvalue
their players, so they think they're players the good players
are you know, better than Connor McDavid or whatnot or
you know, obviously Edmonton thinks con mc table's Conwick tabd.

(10:44):
But like they'll overvalue and overhype their players to a
point where it's not even sustainable, Like they can't match
that level of of of adoration and admiration. So it's
it's it's very difficult to you can't watch the good
and you can't watch the bad. So I agree, and
I think, you know, Demidov, I don't think is he's

(11:04):
got decent English, but I don't think he's you know,
reading the Mareal Gazette in French right now, which is
perfect so for him shout out to Lapress.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Let's talk about the Capitals right now.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Pire Lukedubois al for an extended period of time lower
body injury. The old LBI Washington was the top seed
in the East last year. They're now six five and one.
Dubois Ovechkin overrated now, I'm kidding. Two goals in his
first twelve games sucks. Connor McMichael one goal is first
twelve games. He scored twenty six last year. Anthony Pavillier
two points his first twelve games. They have great defense,

(11:36):
but they're twenty eighth in offense. They're twenty seventh on
the power play. Neither you or me called them to
win the division, so I feel like we kind of
called the regression, But I didn't necessarily think they'd be
this bad.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I just think there's other teams that really surprised more
so than like, yeah, they didn't have anything compared to
what they did last year as a regression in terms
of the hot start they had, and I think everything
went right for them last year. Now there's a couple
of things that go wrong. You're getting your resilience tested,
but you got to believe that there's enough veteran leadership
there that they'll pull they'll you know, they'll start pulling away.

(12:09):
They're just they're getting unbelievable goaltending. Like Logan Thompson's on
my short list to be uh, you know, the starting
goalie for Team Canada at the Olympics. The way he's playing,
he's very you know, they just can't get run support.
So when you can't get run support, eventually you got
to think it turns with how much high powered offense
in scoring you have, especially ov you know, ob Ob

(12:30):
is the offensive driver on that team, and he's really
done next to nothing. He hasn't been able to I've
watched a couple of the games. He hasn't been able
to get open uh and get a shot off. So
I feel like that'll change. But if you look in
the metro and then and tell it's surprising, you know.
I think the Dan Muse, the emuse boosh loved.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Muse. I did not know what he looked like. So Monday,
did you talk to him? J D? I felt like
such a prick. I was about to be like, who's
this guy? This is equipment?

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Like that's have you heard him talk?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Though?

Speaker 4 (13:03):
He's got his deepest bear, deepest voice.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Doesn't look like this voice is unbelievable. I was like,
I was just that was my biggest take. I can't
believe that's Dan music and that's Dan Mus's voice.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I know he's got a hammer for sure, Big Dick,
Dan Muse. I mean he's swinging it for these banguins
fans man, Big Muse. Is that a break because you
look at him and you're like, this can't be an

(13:36):
NHL coach, and then you talk to him and you're like, oh,
this is an NHL coach.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
This guy's a coach. He's he's great man Like, honestly,
he's the structure.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
And I to be hard to bring this one back
on the rails, but uh, you know, I keep saying
it throughout training camp. He was talking about being connected,
and I think that they're playing such a good brand
of hockey and they're getting really good golden at times.
You know, obviously not last game. I thought they should
have walked away with that Toronto game, and Goalie just

(14:10):
kind of crowned made a comeback. But you know, you
look at them, you look at the devils. You know,
I think we all had the devils thinking that we
weren't sure what they were going to do. We said,
a healthy Jack Hughes and a healthy Devil's team is
very good. They're proving that in spades. You know, Columbus
is surprised. We knew the Rangers would be, you know,
probably not making the playoffs this year. None of us
had high hopes, and the Islanders have kind of surprised

(14:34):
at six five and one. Honestly, I think the way
they started as well, like how they've kind of brought
this back on the rails and they're playing good brand hockey.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
So the Metro is a lot more.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Even though I still think it's the worst division in hockey,
there's still a lot there's still a.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Lot of open space there. So I don't know how
this is going to play out.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I don't know if Pittsburgh can hang on, but I
definitely think Washington will finish higher than where they are now.
It's just going to be a question of can they
get that. You know, you never want to waste good goaltending,
so I think it sucks, but it sucks that you
you know, if you're a goalie and you're giving up
less than two goals a game and you can't win.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
It's like there's something wrong. So but I think they'll
write the ship.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I did want to tell you my quick Crosby story.
How often did you mess with your stick when you
played it. I'm just curious as far as your blade.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
I never my blade. My whole thing was my grip.
So I used to spray.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I used to spray paint my stick because I didn't
like I didn't like the natural stickiness of it. So
i'd spray paint it. And when you spray paint it,
i'd spray paint it all black when I was in Dallas,
so then it was really smooth. But then I would
put the I can't even say that word anyway, we
put the beater on it. It's a big it looks
like a bludget. It's all this tape that they they

(15:45):
unwind all this tape backwards onto a knob of a stick,
and the turn you'll see it on the side of
the benches, and it's like it's very sticky and you
rub it on your stick and it gives you grip.
So I would put just a little bit where I
felt I liked to have a little bit of stickiness,
but I would do that would be the weirdest thing
I do, and then I'd kind of always mess with it,
but I'd always be in the room spray painting.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
My stick's black.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
That's probably why I have some head fogginess now and
some some weird weird, uh weird thoughts and sleeps at times.
But yeah, but anyway, tell me about Crosby because he's better.
Nobody wants to hear about me. Jason Emmer's seven hondred
game age levans and spray bend and sticks. They want
to be like, tell me about Crosby, You're a fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
So the fact he's now at seventeen hundred points and
Jody Schellen are asking him about his blade because he said,
your backhand is so great.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Do you mention the blade?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
He goes, never, he said, Nate does a lot. McKinnon's
always fiddling with his. He goes, I never do it.
He was the reason why is the backhand is such
a weapon for me that therefore they have to respect
the backhand that becomes strict to the forehead. And he goes,
you know, I keep the stick way up here like this,
like on his chest, and he's like, I never wanted
to fiddle too much of it because to me, he
goes and it kind of goes back to what Marty
told us last week in control, he goes ninety eight

(16:53):
percent of the time the puck is not on your stick,
so he goes amount of right. Think of that, like,
think how often you were playing, how often Jason News
actually touched the puck. It's this quick boom a lot
if you're worried too much, if the stick is how
it's impacting the pockets, like oftentimes you're away from the
play anyway.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
So it's like, it's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
The sticks feels like it's like almost extensive use a
hockey player, right, It's like a boxer's gloves.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's who you are, and.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yet some guys are constantly tinkering and it sid doesn't.
I just found that interesting. And you were a guy
who just messed with the grip but not the actual blade.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yeah, I would, if you know.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Whenever my kids starts playing hockey, I definitely I think
starting with a straight or blade for all kids should
be learn how to play with like the dry title
and the Crosby blade. Learn to learn to play with
a backhand first. Everything right now is like the sackic hook.
You're trying to get that release. But learn how to
play with both sides of the puck, because you see

(17:49):
these kids now they get on their backhands, they can't
make a pass, they can't do anything. So learn how
to kind of control that get a good shot when
you have a stick that just you know doesn't help you.
And then from there, when you kind of add a curve,
you're gonna it's gonna open up some stuff for you.
But I mean, yeah, he's, uh, he's an anomaly. And
you know he's because you look at like ov Ovi

(18:10):
has the curve. It's like looks looks like a shopping
you know, like a shopping store, a mini mart broom
like you're doing how do you how do you? It
looks like a hile I racket where you just kind
of how do you have shoot this thing? It's just
like impossible to shoot. So so yeah, so I just
think it's the backhand is a weapon and should be

(18:30):
used more. And I mean, no one does it better
than said So he's the man.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Cross me off to a blazing store.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Penguins didn't have a three nothing lead that fell apart
against the least as they came back to win that
game four to three in regulation. Still to come here
on NHL Unscripted. Andy Petrillo one of our favorites. Her
book is called Just Call Me Andy Sports Stories. Betrail
Blazer makes you check it out, find out why Brian
Burke chastised her in Afghanistan.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
All that more coming up next.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Our special guest has covered practically every sport for practically
every major broadcaster in Canada and was the first ever
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Speaker 2 (19:15):
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Speaker 1 (19:16):
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Me on Prime Monday Night Hockey Amazon. Her book is
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Speaker 2 (19:27):
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see you.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
I can't believe I'm on. This is so exciting to y'all.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
With you guys, ad Man, you number one. You did
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Speaker 1 (19:39):
That's right, that's when the demers Patrolla match happens continue
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Speaker 5 (19:44):
We've had some memorable moments, one which still makes the
highlight reels of Jason and his short shorts Hall you're missing.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Out wardrobe choices, sometimes good, sometimes bad. Andy, you know,
talk a little bit. Let's start obviously the elephant in
the room here, the book. How did it come to
get and for you, what's been the response so far?
You're talking about before just being with a publicist. This
is a kind of new territory for you.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
It is so bizarre. Yeah, because this is my first book,
so the whole process is completely new to me. But yeah,
I said I would. I would say I started writing
this in January of twenty twenty three. I had a
literary agent reach out to me, and he's done a
lot of books for a lot of men in Canada,
like right from like James Duffy, you know, Ken read
Bob Mackenzie. So he's helped a lot of those guys

(20:33):
put out books. And he's like, hmm, I don't think
a woman in Canada in sports has ever done this.
So he reached out, and I wouldn't say it was
like a lot of convincing, But at first I didn't
want to do it because I thought, who the heck
is going to want to read what I've been through?
I don't know, like you always think, like if I
throw a party, is anyone going to show up? So
I'm like, if I write a book, is anyone going
to read it? But you know, he kind of convinced

(20:55):
me I had some stories to share, and then I thought,
you know what, I do want to write this because
you know, in the first part of your career, and
oftentimes it's in the first part of your life, like
it's about you what can I do to make myself better?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Well?

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Can I do to progress my career? What can I
do for me? And that's not necessarily a bad thing, right,
But then there comes another point in your life, that
second half where you think, Okay, even though I'm still
learning and evolving, how do I give back? Now I'm
at that point in my career, how do I give back?
And I feel like the book is just a really
good way to do that because I touch on some
topics storylines that I feel are beneficial for a lot
of young broadcasters, obviously, especially women. So I just I

(21:31):
hope that my sharing of my experiences can help them
get through some things here in the industry too, So
it's also my way of giving back.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I was lucky enough to work with the Andy at
MLSCA for a year back in nine. So what I'm
doing to try to help the pub for the book,
as I told her the other day, is I'm screenshotting
whenever a person is mentioned, then texting them. So Steve Colius,
I screenshot it and circle like, look you got mentioned
Andy's new book, Hoping they we'll take the hit and go,
oh my god, where's the book available?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I gotta go get that.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
So for Andy, I've done this down to David Amber,
I've don this to Steve Coulius. I send this to
Mike Johnson, I've done this to James DOTHI why.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Has been like, oh where can I buy the book?
Send me a link?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
But eventually we're going to crack one brow. But listen,
you are a gifted writer. There's no question about it.
And I mean I know you studied English back there
at Yorkshire to York Yeoman, Back of the Day, now
York Lions. But you're a gifted writer and a great storyteller.
Like what I love about the book is, and I've
got thirty pages left, is it's quick. It's just story
from this snapshot, from this, here's the Olympics, here's soccer.
It's not like you know, Cradle to the Grave, Andy Patrillo.

(22:29):
It's like really entertaining and breezy and fast paced. So
let's get to some of those great stories. By My
favorite story right now is I just close wise, I go,
what's the first thing you think of Afghanistan? Brian Burke
tell the story?

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Oh my goodness, Brian Burke was a hero in Afghanistan.
So this is when so working for Maple Sports and Entertainment,
Tom and saw me. The CEO loves our troops and
for years he was organizing trips to Afghanistan to bring
the Stanley Cup, to bring former and echellers and really
just lift the spirits of those defending our freedom. And

(23:03):
one of those trips I was on and Brian Burke
was was on it as well, and it's it's it's
sad and it's uplifting because what's sad about it is
he had just lost his son a couple months before
we left on this trip. And I remember saying to him, like,
I can't believe you're still here. I think people would
understand that you would have to like throw in the
towel on this trip, and he said, no, these men

(23:24):
and women are putting their lives on the line for
us every single day, and I promised them that I
would be there, so I'm going to be there. And
I always liked Burkie, but like that trip just brought
it to a whole other level where I'm like, Wow,
you just lost your son and you're you know, you're
you're still sticking to your word and your promise here.
And he was great. And one morning, you know, he

(23:44):
woke up early. I mean not that the not that
a war zone ever sleeps, but you know, he was
up early, and there was a Timmy's on base, because
of course there has to always be at tim Martin's
on base for the Canadians, and he just stood there
and just bought everyone their breakfast, whatever they wanted. He
just stood there for hours. And even when I went
up there and I wanted to help, I'm like, you

(24:05):
know kind of He's like, no, listen, like we got this,
don't you worry. Just make sure that you know, you
take the orders, make sure all the troops all their
orders are being taken and no one gets left behind there.
So you know, he would do things like that. And then, yeah,
so a bit of a funnier story that I share.
I didn't really grasp that I was in a war zone.
I still wanted to treat it like I was at home.

(24:27):
So I woke up early. I was a little jet lag,
and I'm like, I need a shower. So we're in
like port like we're we're we're in like portables, right.
I don't know you guys have portables, right, you're overflowing
in school. You're not in the class. You're in these portables.
So that's kind of what they were, these makeshift portable barracks.
And then across the way it was another portable that
had the proper shower facilities. So I go across. It's

(24:49):
probably like five in the morning or something. I take
my shower, which is also a way too long. I
do not know how to take a military two minute shower.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Like oh you want you said the one female officer
while you were getting undressed. When in undressed shower, it
was already out and.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
I'm still like shampooing my hair. I'm like, how did
she do that? That was incredible? And I'm like, you know,
using up all the hot water for these soords. I'm like, oh,
they hate me for life. So I go to get
dressed and what do you know I didn't bring a
change of clothes, and foggy brain doesn't think to put

(25:23):
her pjs back on because I brought pj's. Like what
else am I going to sleep in in Afghanistan? I'm like, oh,
get my pj's. So I'm like, I'll just go with
my towel. I'm like, it's five in the morning, everyone's sleeping, like,
not a big deal. I'll go in my towel right
across the way, go back into the barracks, and well,
what do you know? First thing I do when I
opened the door, truck of soldiers is just driving by,

(25:43):
and all the dudes are like, what the actual heck?
There is a naked woman on base and they were
all just kind of like turning their heads, going, oh
my god. Right, and I think, oh geez. And the
next thing I hear is somebody just giving it to
me right, like what the f patrol? What? And I'm
like what. I look up and there's Burkie. He can't

(26:04):
sleep either. He's like, what in the actual hell are
you doing? Put some freaking clothes on. I'm like, I shall,
and I thought it was early. He's like, it's a
bloody warzone. Nobody's sleeping. He's like, of course when you
walk anyway, So he was just like it was great.
Berkie was great. It was sad, but he was just wonderful.
And I just you know that that trip was eye opening.

(26:26):
So many of those. There's other stories that I share
in there of like just you know, going visiting the
hospital and just you know the damage that war does.
So there's a lot that I learned there. And there's
also a story when I was in Afghanistan about I
may or may not have lost to Stanley cup Ring.
So you have to read that.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
You know, I wanted to ask you a little bit
about about talking about Burkie and people seeing another side
and you know, you kind of as a broadcaster and
somebody who's in the locker room, you see the other
side of guys, You see the other side of girls
that are that are playing professional sports. Do you feel
like sometimes you owe it to kind of show them
in the best life possible? And then is that something

(27:06):
that's a little bit more nuanced and something you had
to learn kind of as you kept you know, growing
into the into the game, so to speak.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Sure, because the more you get comfortable in your own skin,
and you get comfortable like talking to people and interview
skills and whatever, you feel like you can bring out
the best in others. And I think, you know, sometimes
that takes time. Some people can get it right away,
but I also think it takes time because the players
themselves have to just learn to trust you to show
their personality. So that's why I do like, I love

(27:36):
I love features. I think features are the best way
because it's really hard sometimes to get anyone to show
their personality when they have like ten microphones jammed in
their face in a scrum setting. Like that's difficult, right,
or even if I'm doing like my intermission interviews, you know,
some guys can show personality the other night because I
mean obviously they were they were leading. But again he's

(27:56):
a veteran like Eric Carlson was hilarious in.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
That Firm's good.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Yeah, but like not every guy can do that either, right,
Like it's hard. So that's why I do to your point,
I love the feature part of things, and because that's
the other side of athletes and they have a little
bit more time and a little bit more room to
show themselves. And I think in general, the NHL does
a really good job with that, especially in the beginning
of the year when they do a bunch of things
with players and then put that out. But I think

(28:23):
it's important to show that because sometimes in the world
of sport, you know, I mean, and I knows this
as a broadcaster, Jason, you know this. As a player,
you can become numbers and that's it. And I think
people sometimes forget the human. They forget the son, the brother,
the husband, whatever. And I maybe I'm just getting sappier.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
The older I get, but it's true.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
I love to talk about the like remind even if
you have a crappy game and it's my job to
say that was a horrible play by Jason pinched to
her whatever led to the goal, I still will say
it in a way where it's like, well, nobody's more
upset than Jason about that play, right, I'm not gonna
hammer you like you're not a human. So I think

(29:05):
it's really important to highlight that with a lot of
these players.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Again, the book is called Just Call Me Andy.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Sports Stories from the Trail Blazer Andrea Patroller her formal name,
she has gone by Andy.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Let's go to the Uh yeah, did you learn that? Wait?

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Did you just learn That's why the book's.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Called Just Call and the Hell.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I just like hearing that Andrea just call me and
our personal and and he's like, wait, wait, what's going
on here?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Who's who's the the ket of the bag? Some of
the best stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Again, I think it's important not only for aspiring broadcasters
and for everybody, but particularly andy for women.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
This stuff is really important.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Social media chapter I thought was particularly interesting because as
you're doing something which no one has done before, being
a trailblazer hosting these shows, you're going to get a
lot of negative feedback. And as you said, you were
reluctant to join Twitter, as was I. You don't have
a Facebook page, nor do I. You were reluctant to
do on Facebook girls, but you and I both feel like, well,
it's part of the product, and we're working for the company,
and they want me to repost. We probably should, so

(29:58):
you feel an obligation. That's why you started doing it
at twenty level MLSC. But this is the kind of
stuff that you have had to resort and I'm glad
that you actually included the exact tweet. This is a
revolting example that was sent me after Brian Trotcy was
a guest on my radio show, Slavic Supremacy. Who's dick
to this privileged white woman suck to get this job?
Of the thousands of males out there that earn and
deserved this job, they find a pussy to a man's job.

(30:21):
So I'm to believe this vagina loves Trotcy and hockey
more than a man. And as you said, this is like,
this is an avalanche of stuff that's so bad.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
For years you've been getting this stuff. I hope it's
less now.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
Well maybe maybe not. I don't know, because something else
I point out on the book is I shut my.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Mentions, turned off the notifications mart you learn.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
To control your social media, which you can control it, right,
So I turned my mentions off on Twitter. I don't
check dms on Instagram. I used to even have mentions
off on Instagram, so unless I followed you, you couldn't
even put a message on my Instagram page. I changed
that because again in this day and age, I go,
when you work with brands, they want to see analytics,

(31:01):
they want to see those numbers. But like, I also
feel like I got into this social media game when
I was older so I was already through my formative years,
and I feel like I have the mental capacity a
little bit stronger to deal with these things. The kids
coming up like this is just their world, this is
their their life, and I, oh, my heart breaks when
I think about it. But yeah, I mean there's and

(31:22):
there's been so many studies done, and that's why I
wanted to highlight it because I know that men deal
with a lot of stuff too, and I can only
imagine what you guys get. The difference is that there's
always some sexual undertone with women, Like oftentimes when men
get attacked on social media, not all the time, but
oftentimes it does have to do with the job at hand,

(31:43):
even with the athletes, right, Like if an athlete gets attacked,
a male athlete, it's because he had a bad game.
If a female athlete gets attacked, it's often it's not
necessarily results based. It's just like you're a whore, or
you deserve to be raped, or even if people think
they're being complementary, it's like I just want to do X,
Y and Z to you and it's horrific, you know,

(32:06):
sexual descriptions of things that they want to do. Like
there's always that type of undertone where you know that
whole sexual violence is still used as a weapon against women,
and in social media it's very, very prevalent. So if
any man wants to dismiss me as a woman in
sports broadcasting, they just resort to that. They resort to,

(32:30):
you know, the sexualization of me. So dismiss me because
I'm too pretty, too fat, too ugly, you know, I'm
I'm bangable. I'm not bangable, Like everything is judged by that.
I could have just given the most incredible analysis. That's
not what they see, that's not what they care about.
So and that's really hard on women. And it's also

(32:51):
really friggin scary because when somebody attacks you in that way,
you start to look over your shoulder because you're like,
is that person around. I'll tell you this. This wasn't
in the book, but I remember one time, this is
a couple of years ago, I did get uh And
the only reason why I opened it was because I
saw that it was somebody who worked in the Union

(33:13):
of people that we use in broadcasting, and I went, oh,
is this somebody I know? Like they sent me a
DM and me like, open this up. And it was
a dick pic and it was somebody who works in
the unions, so a group of people that we use
in the sports broadcasting world. So now I'm definitely a

(33:34):
massive union. It goes like across Canada and I think
it's even in the state, but like either way, I'm
now I'm freaking out because I'm like on location at
a place where I know we use these people, and
I'm like, is this guy somewhere here? Is he here?
Like yeah, actually the one now like helping me out?
What's like? So it gets it can enter your real
life and it can be really scary too.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
A couple of quick thoughts on that one.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
I loved the quote from Dave cadell or old friend
used to run the fan who said if a male
mispronounced his name.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Or makes a mistake, they go, oh, he just made
a mistake. But if a woman does it, she doesn't
know what she's talking about. She's a woman. I thought
that was bang on, like that happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
And also I like your point, but comments turning off
notifications for positive comments, I agree with that too.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
That can get in your head. Oh, i'd NaN's killing itself.
Even viz are so awesome.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Oh, so then you get lazy or whatever, like no, no,
I don't want to hear anything. I don't want positive
or negative.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Just go andy.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
You know, talking about that too, like how important becomes
like wardrobe because you know in the book you mentioned
you wore leather pants social media you face a ton
of backlash, Like how does that then become I can
only imagine like you're picking out your outfit and you're like,
I gotta, like one, be presentable, show myself, you know,
be a woman at the same time, like I have to,
to your point, be looking over my shoulder and then

(34:48):
also face backlass.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
You got to kind of like toe that line.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
But before you even answer, I want to just say.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Andy quotes The Devil Worst Product when she talks about
the fast there's a chapter on fashion. There's this brilliant
in the movie The Devil Worst Pot where Anne Hathaway's
character snickers at Meryl Streep's character as the latter is
putting together a fashion look.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Take yeah, love that segment because and this is where
it's far more deeply psychological when it comes to what
women wear than I think even women themselves recognize. But
you're right, you are again as a woman, your credibility
is judged based on what you wear. And I obviously
talk about some men who wear some wacky fashions. And

(35:27):
even though people are, sorry, Jason, even though people will
comment on the wacky fashion, that man's credibility is not
judged by it, but a woman's is. So she's showing
too much skin, that means she lacks credibility. Even if
she's covered up too much, she's too prudish. Let loose
a little bit, right, like a woman. It's very hard

(35:48):
for a woman to win when it comes to what
to wear. And I even acknowledge that in my book,
where I'm like, some of you might be wondering what
the actual heck are you doing including a chapter here
all on clothing. But that's how much stress it can
cause for a lot of women. And of course, you
know a lot of women have also been told there's
a certain way to dress in order to feel sexy
and beautiful, and that way to dress is to attract

(36:11):
the male gaze. So I know, like people are very
quick to be like, oh, look what that woman's wearing,
or she's got cleavage, or her skirts too short, and
I'm like, yeah, but I also think she doesn't even
realize because it's generations even before her. That's what she
was told to wear in order to be attractive. That's
what she was told to wear in order to attract

(36:32):
the male audience. Which as much as we have a
ton of female viewership, right, it's still dominated by men.
And that woman she gets dressed thinking that she's dressing appropriately,
but she's actually dressing for men. Is she even really
dressing for herself? Is she even even really dressing for
other women? So I find that it's really a deeper

(36:54):
psychological thing than I think some people even know about
or are even willing to dive into. So again, it
took me a long time. I didn't even know this
right out of the gate. I was I would dress
a certain way, and deep down inside I know I
always felt uncomfortable. I'm like, well, why do I have
to dress this way? And are you sure that this
V isn't too low? Because I kind of think it's inappropriate. Nah, Nah,

(37:14):
it's great. People think it's great. Like who thinks it's great?
Like the male athlete that I'm interviewing, and now his
eyes are like, you know, like that's not right either? Right?
So like it took some time to break away from
that kind of belief system that in order to feel,
because let's face it, we do. Everyone wants to go

(37:36):
to work looking good. I want to go looking beautiful.
You want to go looking handsome, like we all want
to do that. We all want to go feeling our best.
But what is beautiful? Because I think for women we've
been told it's a certain something which may be more revealing,
maybe a little bit more risque. And again, if you're
a woman who loves to dress that way, you do you, babe,
like you do you. But I just want you to
think a little bit why is that you? And that's

(37:58):
that that you're talking about with the Anne Hathaway because
in that beautiful scene Anne Halfaway, her care character Andy
thinks she's being rebellious by like, you know, rebelling against
the fashion world. And I just love how Streep's character
turns around and says, you're wearing what we picked out
for you years ago and you don't even know it.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That's all. Yeah, yeah, that's right, the cutchhrase, that's all
I know.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
I love much.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
An example what a good writer, Andy is this is
called the lead. So this's when you're, you know, writing
a chapter, you get a great lead sentence.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Joe Thornton is the.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Reason why I developed an obsession with watching the Maury
Povid Show, and Marty san luis the reason why I
almost broke my ankles.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
How about the stories of both.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
Those It was just fun stuff. We for two summers
in a row, I got to spend some time with
those two. We actually would shoot hockey us. So the
first year was ball hockey, second year was hockey, and
we just shot instructional videos that were then sold in
Kellogg's boxes, which was hilarious. So the second year, obviously
we knew each other very well. At this point, we're

(38:59):
having some fun and I had the bigger dressing room
as I should get and Jumbo Joe didn't appreciate that,
hence his name jumbo Joe. He's like, I need more space.
So he just took over my room and he just
like he's like, that is now mine, that couch is
now mine. And when I came back from shooting one
of my solo things, you know, there he was. I

(39:21):
thought he was passed out, pretty sure he was snoring,
and I went to change the channel to watch Days
of our Lives because that is my guilty pleasure. Okay,
I like to watch Days of Our Lives. That's the
soap opera I've been watching since I was ten years old.
Shout out to my cousin Jenny, who got me hooked.
And I changed the channel and he woke up right
away and he's like, put it back. I need to
know who the baby daddy is. So what the heck

(39:42):
are you talking about? He was watching more Povich and
he's like, I've been waiting. He goes, I don't care
about the show. He didn't care about the show. He
just wanted to know the end if the guy was
the dad or not the dad. So then we had
to sit there for like the final seven minutes. And
then I got hooked. I'm like, this is drama because
I grew up also watching Jerry Springer.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Okay, okay, and I.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
Know I needed to. I'm like, oh my goodness, how
have I not watched Maury after Jerry's Springer starts. So
I got a little hooked on Maury and that was
a ton of fun. And then I mean, Marty Saint
Louis to your point earlier Jason about getting to know
the personalities. So, guys, this guy is a ham like
he loves cracking jokes, he's at he is really funny,

(40:32):
and he was like he was pulling all kinds of
pranks those two summers all the time. And then one
of them was also this video game, I think the
Wii or whatever that you had the handle and I
had never played it before, and he convinced me that
I needed to keep my skates on and run back
and forth to do this one particular tennis thing and
like my ankles are just bending back and forth and
he's just like having a snicker in the corner. Just

(40:53):
thought it was the funniest thing. But like that's the
kind of stuff that he would do all the time.
So great personalities by both those guys, and we had
we had a ton of fun those two summers. So
those are just some of stories that I share too,
because there's like a lot of great guys that you
meet along the way.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Well, you're not the only person that Joe Thornton has,
you know, taken over his TV. He used to come
into my room when we're on the road and literally
take a nap and put on a movie and then
I couldn't change the channel. I have to sit there
in silence. I mean, well, I'm watching the hurt Locker. Now,
I'm watching the hurt Locker.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Now.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
That's what he does, and he does it in such
a way where you're like, I don't are you supposed
to be here? Should I be kicking you out?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Life?

Speaker 4 (41:35):
His whole life, his whole life.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
He lives in the middle, like in this middle purgatory
where we're like, should I say something?

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Should I not? I'm like, it's jump and everybody just goes, well,
that's jumbo.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
He's probably the most heartbreaking chapter, and he's about Wade
Blac because what I thought was really interesting is you
not only wrote about what happened away, but your personal
connection to that and the guilt that sometimes people can
deal with when someone even not as I say, close
to them, someone that they know from their acquaintance with,
ends up taking their lives.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
How tough was that to go through?

Speaker 5 (42:02):
Oh my goodness, you know I still live a little
bit with the guilt of it. I'd be Wade became
like a good friend right away. Again another thing, Jason,
I mean, he's just awesome people, and it was really
important for me to share that mostly because I wanted
people to know that Wade was awesome, Like he was
just an awesome guy. And in an industry again where

(42:23):
even the players themselves sometimes would be nervous talking to
a female reporter on their own because it's like a
it could be like a high school hallway sometimes, right,
like they don't want their teammates teasing them like ooh,
you were talking to Andy for a little while. They're
all was going on, right, So sometimes that childishnesss can

(42:44):
seep into a room. Wade didn't care. He's like, if
I like you, I'm going to talk to you. A
couple times on the road where I would be walking
back to the hotel on my own because the rest
of the media would decide to stay out after dinner,
like I'm walking, you know, it's nighttime, and Wade would
see me and he's like, I'm walking you back to
the hotel room or not a hotel room, but a
hotel And he's and I'm like, why would you do this?

(43:06):
Like people might think. So He's like, I don't care.
You are a woman by yourself on the road, by
the way, now you're walking back to the hotel at night,
Like if anyone had seen one of my daughters doing this,
they better escort them back, because if anything were to
ever happen to them, I would, you know, I'd be
pissed at them. And He's like, and if anything would

(43:27):
ever happen to you, and I saw you walking like,
I need to be a gentleman like he was. That's
what he was. He was an absolute gentleman. He would
clean off my car when we would come back from
road trips because I traveled with the team, so we'd land,
there'd be a snowstorm, everyone's car is covered in snow,
and he would just completely wipe my car off for me,

(43:48):
right like, just things like that. Chivalry was not dead
with Wade b. Lack Right. He was a wonderful human
being in that sense. And then right up until the
last second where he retired. I even introduced him to
an agent I was working with at the time to
get him into broadcasting, to help him out with that.
And then he wanted to return the favor when I
was trying to get my job with Hockey Night in

(44:09):
Canada and he was with Battle of the Blades. So
that was that night where he was trying to get
me to go out. He was with a bunch of
CBC people and he's like, I really want you to
come out meet these people FaceTime. FaceTime never hurts, right,
Like that's what he wanted. And I just kept saying
I was too tired, I was too busy, I was
too tired. And then that was really the last Those
are the last words that I ever spoke to him.
And then the next day is when all the news

(44:30):
started to break and it was just like I think
and I said, like I write this in the book
where you're just in shock, because we were supposed to
have lunch that day, and I texted him and I'm like,
people are saying you're dead, Like is that true? Like
it was just a text because I don't know what
to say. I'm like, oh my god, all these people
are saying you're dead. What's up with that? Lol? Like hey,
where are you?

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (44:51):
And then no response and I just went, oh, no,
like I think this is real, and yeah it was.
It was a really tough time. My grandfather had been ill,
hence why I was tired and couldn't go out with
him the night before. But you know, Wade Wade was
good people, and I want I want everyone to know that.
You know, I'm sure, as you know, his family obviously

(45:11):
knew how amazing he was. But I if they read
that chapter, if they read my book, you know, if
his daughters end up reading it, you know, I hope
they get another like appreciation for how like you know,
their father touched people in the industry as well, like
he was just salt of the earth human being. Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Last one for me, when you wrote the book we
were talking about in Winnipeg, he said, no, there's some
stuff in there, some personal stuff that I disclosed, haven't
talked about. And I thought this was really brave of
you because I have a couple of nieces who I thought.
But immediately when you talked about how some women avoid
playing sports when they're younger because what happens, and you said,
menstruating at the age of ten, you know you don't
understand what comes with that. You're wearing white pants, you
gotta wear this that like some women will forever not

(45:51):
play sports. I thought that was very courageous and brave
of you to mention did you worry about disclosing that
specific incident?

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Oh, I'm sure my mom, you know, she's like, why
did you have to share part the deaths whatever, mom.
But I think it's I do think it's important because yes,
I'm actually one of the young ones. I was ten
fricking years old when that happened. And there are a
lot of girls like typically whatever, like thirteen fourteen, so
they're all and I guess, you know, maybe it's kind

(46:20):
of funny because when I think about it, maybe it's
the fact that I got it so early. I already
joined sports, like knowing how to deal with that, where
some girls they're like thirteen fourteen, fifteen, so they've been
in sports for a few years. Then you know, their
body changes and it's like uh oh, and they don't
know how to adjust. They get nervous, they get scared,
they get embarrassed. But I did, you know, I'm happy

(46:42):
I wrote it because when I was writing that sort
like the amount of women who reached out to me,
even like national team players, and I write it like
one in the book, former national team player reached out
and she's like, you know, Canada makes the Olympics in
soccer two thousand and eight for the first time. She's like,
we are over the moon, We're representing our country. We're
at the freaking Olympics. Man. She goes and I get

(47:03):
my period the night before our very first game, and
what kits to Canada choose to wear the white ones.
So she's like and this is like, these are things
that female athletes have to worry about. So she's like,
here I am playing in front of millions and now
I got to worry, Like, I hope I don't have
an accident. And I know it's worth talking about because
many leagues have now banned white shorts, and they've done

(47:25):
that in the NWSL, they've done it in the Women's
Soccer League. Over in Europe as well, they're starting to
ban them because they realize the amount of stress that
it caused. I mean, everyday women are you go to work,
you know, you're always like worried, Like it's just things
like that, Like that is something that causes stress. Hello,
figure it out. And now, if you're an athlete that's
got to perform on the highest level, that can cause

(47:46):
stress if you're wearing certain colors. And then when you're
young and not everyone's going through it, there's an embarrassment factor.
And when I brought that up that day, I know
I could tell people because again, everyone's always uncomfortable talking
about what the body does. But then they all came
up to me privately and they went, you're so right,
this happen, and then they start to share their stories.
So that's why I'm like, I'm going to include that,

(48:08):
even though my mom will probably be like, you don't
need to prett Yes, I did, Mom, because it opens
a conversation for other women to say, you're right, and
it'll remind some women that there are young girls out
there where if they start to act a certain wad
be like, hey, are you like, is there something you
want to talk about? Maybe it's this, And that's okay

(48:28):
because it's very normal that the body is going to
go through that. Let's talk about it and let's figure
out how you can deal with it and still be
able to play sports and not feel embarrassed by it.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
For sure, it's andy, you know, for me lastly, you know,
playing hockey and being a professional athlete and now myself,
you know, being in the broadcasting world. I'm so amazed
at you know, working with hosts that are so good
at you know, dictating traffic. You know, I always tell
people that ask me, you know, how is it how
hard is it.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
I'm like, it's it.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
It's nothing compared to the hosts that have somebody in
their ear that are giving them traffic constantly in your life,
like an air traffic controller shout out the government shutdown.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
But it's it's literally so difficult.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
It's so hard, you know, to do, and I have
so much respect but for you, like, is there a
favorite moment of yours where like you're live on air
and something just kind of went wrong and you had
to think on your feet U.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Oh my goodness. So many times so I call the
producers are the mothership and if we lose, and I knows,
if you lose contact with the mothership, then you're pitched, man.
But if you can still have contact with them and
navigate through audio issues, video issue, anything like that, you
can get through anything. But I've had moments for sure

(49:50):
where oh my goodness, like, so here's a good one,
though not necessarily something went wrong, but I share this too.
So the Pan American Games ended up being a huge
success twenty fifteen, they were in Toronto. It always turned
into Nobody's gonna watch. We ended up having to expand
the hours of our show because so many people were
watching and the baseball team, the Canadian baseball team was

(50:11):
doing so well, and we had like literally a minute
left in the show. But the producers like, we have
to get these highlights in. And these are not MLB players, right,
so it's not like you know these names. And there's
not a great graphics either. But he's like, Andy, we
have zero time to show you these highlights, and we
have no commercial break to show them to you. He's like,

(50:32):
and I don't even have a writer who can get
you these highlights. I Am going to read you the
highlight in your ear and you are going to have
to say what I say. And I said, oh dear god,
this is going to be a Ron Burgundy moment. I'm like,
do not order a sandwich in the middle of reading meetings,
because I will say it right. So that was like
here we go, like he's like, all right, figure it out,

(50:54):
get your brain, you know, whatever level because we've got
twenty seconds here. And then he just said, all right,
coming up to home plate is so and so you know,
he's two for two on the tien. I'm coming up
to hope his own zone is two for two on
the day. And literally just like doing the highlights that
way and I'm looking at them for the very first time,
and uh, it was it was wild. It was crazy,

(51:14):
but we ended up doing that and got through it.
So yeah, like you're you're learning to be present, like
entertaining on air while listening to what somebody's saying here
and then presenting it to the to the viewers. Like
it's crazy. What what goes on in our ear is
complete and absolute chaos, chaos, and then what comes out
you hope is not.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
The first the first sight of the first set of
Coast to Coast we did the first season was like
they somebody accidentally pressed the button you just hear in
the bag.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
We're like, I don't me you and p K, We're
like Jesus.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
Like shout out to producers because they keep a lot
out of our ears, right, Like they speak to us
with just what we need to know. But sometimes once
in a while they'll leave their key open a little
too long and I'm just like, are people being murdered
in that room? What is happening? Right? Those poor people?
But Coast to Coast is wild because I'll have a

(52:10):
producer talking to me, then a director also letting you
know what the camrangles or what's going to be shown.
And then we love our stats people because they're the
ones who make us look like geniuses. Then they're all
tru heed you stuff at the same time, like there
are three voices. My husband makes fun of me because
we'll be in a crowded restaurant and we'll be having,
you know, a lovely dinner, and then I hear everything

(52:33):
he says. Then I'll be like, oh my god, they're
breaking up on that table over there, and He's like,
how the hell do you know that. I'm like, I'm
listening to you, and I'm listening to them.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
I know exactly how to do that because you hear everything.
Now you become superman.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
So it's too much noise.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
The producers and the researchers just honestly doing God's work
out there first. There's no question about The book is
called Just call Me Andy, Sports Story Smith, trail Blazer,
Andy Patrol's book is available wherever you get your books,
So go ahead, run to Amazon, Indigo, wherever it may be.
And last thought, shout up to the fact that you
are a GOALIEUG six five two thirty John Conway, your
lovely husband, the pride of Philadelphia. I got to meet

(53:09):
Sunday huge Eagles guys. Well, that was one of my
favorite chapters. A rare time you cries when John finally
got to be a champion as well.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Very very cool.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Yeah, that was that was emotional because you know the journey,
like personally, you know the journey. So he is. But
I always tell him my first goalie love you like
the cat, the cat Felix Popman. He knows it. Johnny
knows it, he accepts it, he gets it. That's my
first love right there, goalie love. And but then you

(53:37):
know John, John's the lasting love. How about that?

Speaker 3 (53:41):
I can make you cry again if you want. I'll
see you on Coast to Coast with Tyson ash on
this Thursday.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
Joy God, I know between what he dresses, like what
he wears, and what you wear, we should be putting
the show on at one am instead, because that means
that should be Yeah, talk about my television viewing exactly.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
I got something. I got a special outfit for Thursday.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
So you like it, Okay, I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Suspense amazing stuff.

Speaker 6 (54:10):
Congratulations, thanks guys, all right, great stuff there to Andy
Patrol again.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
You'll see Andy wid Jason Version Coast to Coast and
Amazon Prime on Thursday Long with Tyson Nash, Cinephile and sixty.
I don't want to spoil it for JD and Tel.
I just want them to watch mob Land on Paramount Plus.
If you like mob stories, you'll enjoy this. Yeah, you're
gonna enjoy Tom Hardy, Pierce Bras and Helen Mirren. No
spoilers here, ten episodes. You boys are gonna enjoy it.
You like your gangsters, like your tough guys, and a

(54:44):
lot of use to the sea word.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
And that's my question to both of you. Tell I'll
go with you.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Why is it in all these British shows, gangster shows,
sexy beast, whatever it may be. What is this fascination
with the seaword? If you use the seaword in America,
can't be like you can't say that. See you next Tuesday.
In England they use it like saying the word water.
It's just constantly being thrown out there. If you notice
that when it comes.

Speaker 7 (55:04):
The Brits, they do, Guy Richie, My understanding is it's
it's more of a colloquialism.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
In the UK. It's it doesn't have it's not as.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Loaded, you know, it's not as loaded as a word.

Speaker 7 (55:17):
It's like, you know, if I called you a dick,
you know, it's like it's it's like it's not an
endearing term, but it's not you know, we're not going
to cover our kids ears necessarily if one of those,
you know, and that's that's that's what it is, which
is why it's so much fun to see, like maybe
someone who's not as familiar with British culture watching you know,
a Guy Ritchie movie or something like that for the
first time, like, oh my god, what was this?

Speaker 4 (55:40):
You know, So it's just it's a you could barely
understand half the words. There's a great SNL speech with
Bill Hayter and Fred Arni. Yeah, I I was wondering
if be picked that up.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
It is.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
God hey, because normally I'm anti subtitles if they're speaking
English when it comes to this Moblin look o bet
those subtitles on. I have no idea what these guys
are saying. Just cocked the accents their mo put in
a pinch.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah, I have no idea what they're saying right now.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
And now it's English.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Check it out.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
I love don't you? Don't you love that? Towl comes on.
First words of the show is an eighteen syllable word.
Make us feel make us feel stupid?

Speaker 2 (56:23):
No, listen to is a writer. We appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
He's smart. Man.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Quick thought here just in the jase, I mean that
that is a heartbreaking, last Jady, you can three to
two and then lose six and seven at home, and
you were three outs away from the wind, two outs
away from the wim RoHS.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
HiT's the home run of the ninth.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Fans and numerous wers in hockey were watching, including Kings
fans at Crypto dot com arena they watched, and Guerrero
even where Marie Felipe Team Canada Jersey as he entered
Rogers Center before Game seven. I'm sure you've had a
lot of tough losses in your career. That's about as
brutal as it gets for the Blue Jays.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Uh, quickly, you know, I'll make it funny before diving
into mind, But quickly, how relieved do you think the
maple leafs are?

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Oh my god, how relief do you think the main
plates are?

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Not to you know, not to the lot, but if
these guys would have won.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
You go, all right, well the blue Jays winning that,
that gives us a few months, Like I'm not kidding.
Before the Amazon Showman's like, all right now the season begins,
like everyone's just been kind of falling the blue Jays.
Now people are gonna start watching Leaves when they were
down three to nothing after four.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
This team sucks. Leaves aren't gonna make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Like now the attention is there, So you're right, if
the Jason won, that would have given them a reprieve
two more months.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
All good?

Speaker 3 (57:34):
No, no, no, I I was saying they were relieved
that the Blue Jays lost because they would have had
to deal with they were the last one to win
while it's been a while they won Joe Carter Holmer.
But yeah, it's except But I'm just like kind of
like I was, like, are they.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Kind of hoping they lose? Like they want them to win?
But they wouldn't be mad.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
I mean, how how about those two I mean the
those two games, the amount of chances they had to
win and things that just went it against him, Like
obviously I don't know his name, but he was the
base runner that yet, Yeah, that got thrown out. I
mean no leadoff. He didn't have a secondary leadoff at all.
He did not have that whatsoever. He didn't leave when

(58:18):
the ball was thrown. He didn't start running. It was
crazy to me that he was thrown out at home.
And then obviously that Pages comes in and makes that
Andy po with the catch of the ages inside catch barries.
His teammate says, I'm the says I'm the captain, now
knocks him out, celebrates before looking back. But yeah, congratulations

(58:40):
of the Dodgers. Yeah, game seven loss. I was part
of one of only four instances in NHL history where
reverse sweep.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Yeah, it was one of the hardest things that I
have to talk I got to talk about once a
year like it's fucking awful.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
It's uh.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
We were and LA went on La went on to
win the Cup that year. So it is that two
thousand and fourteen Stanley Cup, La Kings. We were up
three nothing, three nothing, and they just just reverse swept
us the old the old pants around our ankle, pants
around our ankles, just bent over taking it, taking it

(59:18):
up the tailpipe just by the La Kings.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
And I got to hear about it because I'm good
friends with Brad Richardson, so uh, I you know, and
I see Jared Stole around a lot, and maybe Ray
Richardson was on that team, but I always hear that
every time I talk to Jared still or anything. It's like,
you can't even bring it up with somebody, Oh, did
you guys win? And it's like, no, they won though,
and they reverse swept us, So it was tough. It
was tough, tough, tough sledge. So thanks for bringing that.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Up, though, why I want to see on the more
upbeat note, Halloween, your wife Gillian Muller killed it. Follow
her on social media. As I do, dressing up, you
guys do the tandem together you for those who miss
last week's episode, wasn't sure, but Asian appropriation, I think
you're okay dressed up as a character.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
From what she loved that she that by the way,
she's by the way, I don't like to give you props,
but she was like, she's like, oh, that was such
a good I can't remember the line you said, but
she was like dying laughing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
She's like, that was really good, and that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I'm glad she was listening. I'll give it back to her.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
That was the costume of the ear quite franky dressing
up is Amy Madigan who might win an oscar Tal
has now actually seen Weapons Tal, you can appreciate not
only Jill's work honoring her, but also her performance when
she shows up in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Like what the epp is this old lady all about? Unbelievable?

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
It takes a turn. The film takes a turn when
Amy Madigan shows up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
That is for sure, isn't it weird? Like you don't
know what's going on? And then I mean she is
so creepy. Oh go watch Weapons though great By the way,
yes that's correct. Meanwhile, if anybody has seen the video
and you see her on TikTok or I think she
might have posted on Instagram of like it's husband abuse

(01:01:02):
because I put through the ringer come Halloween for a
fucking two weeks straight of getting content coming up with it,
and half the time she's like, she'll start like, no joke.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
She will start in about a month, she'll be like,
what are we doing for Halloween next year?

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Now? Big?

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
What She's like, we gotta start coming up with ideas
and she's and I'll have the ideas written out and
then every month, we got to figure out what we're
doing for Halloween. Gotta figure out what we're doing for Halloween.
It is her favorite holiday. I like this, she takes
it list.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
It's her favorite. It's her favorite one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Like that she buys like she goes to like home Goods,
and when they put out the like Halloween decor, like
the cups and stuff, and she goes bananas for it.
She's a psychopath. That's fine, much like Amy back in
a weapons Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
In terms of costumes, I love Nick Flinel going.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
It's just doppelganger Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni Connor Badar
Frank Naser one is Thing one and two. Avalanche mascot
Bernie Dress is called out of defense from Brent Burns.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
But how about the Kraken, the Tire Roster, and some.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Of their significant others dressed as their favorite Adam Saylor
characters before the Sandman himself came to meet with him
in their dressing room following his performance in the City.
Bravo to the Kraken off to a great start and
loving Adam Sandler.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Yeah, it was pretty cool he shows up. I mean
my favorite one was there's a guy there's I can't
remember that. I don't know the player, but he went
as he never he didn't post anything on his own
personal socials, but he ended up they caught a team
picture and he went his Trump and people would like
people are going ballistic and like trying to like people

(01:02:41):
like zooming in on the picture and I can't remember
who it was, and I wish I knew, but like,
you know, I can't put him on blast. But I mean, ever,
you could dress dress, dress up whatever you want for Halloween.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
I don't give it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
People take it way too seriously at times of like
I can't do this, you can't do just stress. You know,
if you're in your group, obviously be careful what you're
posting on social media because once you do that, you're
in the public eye.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
But yeah, he was like tucked in the back.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
But somebody like saw the make America Great hat again
and we're like lost their mind.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
They whatckey players do?

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I'm like, come on, it's like, well there's about four
or five Happy Gil wars with Seattle and maybe Ben
ears as Sohan.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Okay, I like how you moved that? You move that along?

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Yeah, Adam Sandler, Yeah, my favorite Adam Sandler. Okay, we'll
keep it PC for you because jeesuise.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
My favorite is Don't Mess With It's the best.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
One of the best underrated Adam Sandler movies is Don't
Mess with the Zohan. It's me Sohan Fizzy but bler Phizzy,
but bler I I walk around the house. Yeah yeah, that,
don't mess with the Zohan. I love the ode to
fifty First Dates. The guy uh not Drew Barrymore, the

(01:03:56):
brother Sean Sean Aston, Shawn Aston with the mess he
had the mess shirt on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Brandon Montour is the brother?

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Tell us yeah, yes, Brandon, answer is the brother? That
was my That was the good the sneaky one. I
liked some of the undercover ones a lot, So it's
like that because you don't want to go like I'd
probably would do either domess with the Zohunter or I
do like Little Nikki.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
I think Little Nicky is another one.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I know that people poo poo on it, but I
think it's a stupid, stupid funny. But that's what Adam
Sandler does. You'd make stupid funny movies that you can
watch in the background. And he tries to touch on
the Nostalgia Bone. So good job by the Seattle Crack
and I'd say they win Halloween.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
No, I think so two things.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
A fantastic job and so even Sandler's character is in
SNL opera Man Cajun Mandlo's options as well. You could
dress up as well, all right, Thanks for checking out
Inhelle Unscripted. Thank you Andy Patrollo again. Her book is
called Just Call Me Andy, Sports Stories, My Trail Blazer.
Lots more in the scripted Coming down the Pike. We'll
see you next week.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
We're done.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
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