Empty Netter Bros: McDavid's contract, RIP Ken Dryden and Carey Price gets traded.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
We are getting closer to NHL season. You can almost
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(00:26):
up to eight. The guys from the Empty Netters podcast,
Dan and Chris Power is absolutely fantastic. We'll tell you
about their journey not only in a hockey but also
in Hollywood. Some great storytelling and just how a hot
take about the New York Rangers got them in trouble.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
If they're not backing down.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
It'sine Found sixty the new John Candy documentary premiering it
Tiff plus stories involving Matt Rempey, Lane, Rutson, Lane Hudson, excuse.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Me and Ulson?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
Plus Carrie Price being dealt from the Montreal Canadians now
member of the San Jose Sharks. End of an era,
as they say, speaking of Montrelle will talk about another
goalie passing away with Ken Dryden in just a second.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
But JD Connor McDavid another day, more drama.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I've been since captain in the Superstar remaining without a
contract past.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
This upcoming season.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
A potential lame duck scenario McDavid's saying quote, you.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Know, as I said, I put everything I have into
this and deserve to be paid what I feel is fair.
With that being said, this is a salary cap and
my only desire is to win, So trying to figure
out that balance is tricky.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
But then there was this quote, which I do do
radio hits in Calgary.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
They're having a field day with the long term, short term,
no term and just deliciously licking their chops the thought
of McDavid leaving Edmonton after this season. Part of what's
making this intriguing is that there's other major names available
potentially after this year, jack Iicle Corolla, Price Soft, Kyle
Connor or Timmy paneren So.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
First and foremost, what's going to happen here weeks before
the season begins.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Does McDavid agree to a short term, long term or
no term?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Well, first we have to address the elephant in the room.
Is you taking pot shots at Edmonton on that podcast
which I did us to do.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yesterday and I just went there, he is, I can't
wait till I return to Edmonton. Gon we get booed
off the Senate Amazon Oh saying that Calgary is better
than Edmonton, which I mean an hour and you referenced
it by saying an hour and a half from maam,
and I was like, okay, okay, there, Yeah, I'm like there,
Ad ends he's he's towing the.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Line a little bit. But I liked the little pot
shots at Edmonton. I did stay at the bar Scona
injur in the playoffs and right, you know, the finest
that Edmonton had to offer. But man, it's a tough
one with with Connor truly is you know. I think
you know, we were just talking about it before we
came on, and the more you talk about it, the
more kind of this onion gets peeled back of, Like,

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you know, there's so many things he has to consider.
You know, I think he's he's got the NHL PA,
he's got his agents, he's got his family in his ear.
He's probably considering all those options. The PA probably wants
him to take the max deal, the biggest deal, set
a record, because that will kind of then bring everybody
else up. But then you also look at like the
guys that aren't that are unsigned, the Caprice Ops. The

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Caprice Ops gonna set a big number. They Minnesota came
out and they were talking about how he's gonna get paid.
It's gonna be a record deal for him and the team. So,
you know, I don't think Connor wants to maybe show
his cards too early and sign and then Caprice off.
Can you know he sets the market when I think
Connor is one of those guys that he's always going
to exceed whatever the market's at and whatever it's set at.

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So I think he's probably waiting for some chips to fall.
And rightfully so, like I think he's earned, you know,
the opportunity to not rush.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
He doesn't. He shouldn't have to rush. They should.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
If he wants to play out this season, he should
play out this season. H And also, you know, I
just truly think that Edmonton needs to show that, like listen,
this wasn't these two these two years weren't a flash
in the pan. We need to get creative to create
cap space to bring in a team. Because you look
at the team you have to beat who is the
gold standard. It's the Florida Panthers. They got all these

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guys on deals. They have the best team again, I
think in the NHL, So you need to beat that.
You haven't been able to beat that thus far, So
how do we do that? We need to put together
a team that can get through all the West, the whatever,
the Gauntlet, Juggernaut West, and then end up playing Florida
with enough juice in the tank to sorry enough gas

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in the tank to to finally dethrown them if it
is the Florida Panthers that make it in the finals.
But yeah, I just think it's something that has been
probably weighing on his mind since the playoffs and since
the way they got beat. I think their team was
better two years ago than it was last year, and
it can't keep going downhill. It's got to now kind
of get up to It's got to just get back

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to the level it was and be that one win
away from winning a Stanley Cup versus kind of getting
walk like a dog a little bit in that finals
last year against Florida.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
So a lot for him away. I have a weird feeling.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
I want to think he's leaving, but you know, and
I think he will end up staying. But you know,
part of me is really leaning on like, yeah, he's gone.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, let's do some percentages tell you wane as well.
So I'm gonna do each one I'm gonna do long term,
short term or not term, meaning.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
He'll just play out the rest of this year.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So the odds of McDavid's signing a long term contract
in the next month, tell I'm gonna go at five percent,
you go next than j D.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Zero?

Speaker 6 (05:22):
Why would he sign a long term deal? Is Austin
Matthews signing long term deals with Toronto?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (05:28):
So why should Connor McDavid Austin Matthews catching strays.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
I'm not criticizing for its three years at a time. Yeah,
let's come back in three years and we'll do it again,
you know.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
And I mean no, I think I can't see. I
can't see a long term unless somebody caprice off for
one of them signs before I think. I think it's
you know, I want to go. There's always a chance.
That's an obscene number. I'm gonna say tenright.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
No term McDavid does not sign a contract, he plays
out this season as an unrestricted PHAs at the end
of the year, JD.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
I'm gonna put that at.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Zero.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
I think he'll they'll get something done by the end
of the year. Whether it's whether it's uh, you know,
number one, it'll be a sign in trade at the
deadline if he truly thinks he doesn't want to leave,
or sorry, if he wants to leave and he's like
this team, shit, I'm I'm out of here. I don't
think he'll play out this contract. It'll be way too
much noise, especially going to the playoffs. It'll happen, I

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think sooner than we think, but not like all the
way to the end of the season.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
So that means so the deal probably gets done before
the season starts.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
I think I think maybe early into the season, around
Christmas time. It is my highest percentage.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I was gonna say, short term deal I think is
sixty percent chance, Like that's the greatest likely that happens, Yes,
within the next couple of months, and it's two to
four years high av I think dry sales at fourteen,
so in that range fifteen whenever, like at least.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
You get sixteen, yeah, if you get sixteen one, yeah, yeah,
I think. I mean short, short term is the where
where I'm leaning. A one two year deal I think
is what he'll take and see from there.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Think about.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
All right, But to Jad's point, tell this doesn't give
you a whole lot of conference. The Oilers fan like, Okay,
he's here for a year and we.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Got a one more year out of him for sixty million.
You're still pretty tense about this.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Yeah, I was thinking three years fifty million. You got
three years to win a cup basically, and you got
to be and he's got to be the highest paid
player if not, or win of the highest obviously, you
got three years, win a cup. Show me that we're
or at least show me that we're right there, or
he's gone.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
No gruff tal the GM that taking.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
If he needs consultants, I'm available, O Connor Tallbose.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
What's best for the sport is you want a little
action here?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah we should. We should get Cam McDavid on. We
should get McDavid's brother. And I got his phone number.
I got it and I got him in an airport.
I got his number at an airport.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Just tell me Cam, listen.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's better for the sport if he goes somewhere else,
or it's better if he just plays us out. We
need Drava, We need some clicks here. Okay, we know
ten years of oilers, whatever we've seen it. Ultimately, how
big a distraction you think it could be?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
JD.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I mean, you hear this term all the time. You're actional.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Log is it actually is it actually a distraction? If
he's not signed by opening night.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
I think the noise will just increasingly get louder and louder.
I think, Edmonton, listen, this is like, this is Gretzky leaving.
This is listen, this is just this is the best
player in the league. You know, that's potentially gonna shake
up the core of the league, shake up Edmonton fans.

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It's going to literally be a tsunami of news interviews. Uh,
just so much. So many reporters are gonna make their money,
are gonna make so much money this year because they're
gonna be reporting on Connor McDavid. And the longer this goes,
the more money they're gonna make. So of course, the
reporters and all of us, we don't want it to

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go anywhere because it's we get tons of clicks now.
But I think for him, it's going to become way
too loud. And I just think he is somebody that's
very good at keeping the noise outside and really compartmentalizing.
But this is something that will touch his family, It'll
it'll touch the team and if he truly wants to

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win this year, he's going to sign something, I think,
or tell them like I'm gone. I just I think
the communication. I can't see him sitting out without talking.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And tell one more just to rustle people up here,
reckless speculation.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
If Nick David were to leave, should imagine Panthers, Lightning
Stars Vegas like one of those warm weather USA teams,
rather than you know, Eschewing going to the Maple Leaves
doing Thea's a Richmond Hill guy.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Well, I I want to hear how much the state
tax issue would come in negotiation.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Zach What I was gonna say, It looks a numbers.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
So like I know Ben Klemer, he's a former NHL
player who now is a financial analyst for NHL players
or consultants, and he kind of showed me some of
the some of the numbers that his firm cracked down.
And the number, you know, when you get to that
higher salary bracket in the NHL, the amount of money
you're saving in taxes between like a Vegas and a Toronto,

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like the Mitch Martner effect, it's a lot of money.
These guys can save a lot of money by going
to a place with no state tax compared to a
Canadian market or California, so that that could play into
it as well.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
I think if he goes to a no state tax,
we will see war will Sallas, the next will be
Canada the next day. Canada is at war with the USA.
Not saying it'll be a long war, but we're at
war with the USA. If he goes to a no
state tax, it is fucking see you later. They're coming
down with pitchforks. They're going to Texas, They're going to Florida,

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maybe the Carolinas. They're going to Delaware, Alabama, just going
anywhere there's no state tax, and they are just appsol
going to war.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Any fans in the War of eighteen twelve, we could
see another version coming in twenty twenty six. All Right,
we'll get to the true RD, the true heart, strong
and free. We know what's not wrong here. Okay, folks
like we're living in America, but we're Canadians at heart.
Some sad news over the weekend. Anybody who loves hockey
knows the name Ken Dryden. His legacy within the NHL
pass me at the age of seventy eight. It's one
of the great stories of any athlete of just literally

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hitting the ground running and in a rather brief amount
of time making an indelible impact.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Eight seasons.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Ken Dryden played eight seasons. He won the Cup six
times and the Vesna five times. Retires to the age
of thirty one, which is like Bjorn Borg style.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
He says, Okay, I got a lot of other things
to do. Here's the thing about Ken Dryden, the hockey goal.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
You know, lawyer, author, NHL executive professor and a member
of Canada's Parliament. His first book, The Game Still Concerned,
arguably the greatest hockey book ever. That unbelievable pose of
course Dryden, which's waiting there a net with the stick
resting on his gloves. I'd mean, a true original the sport.
Of all the things I think about GD they'll never
see again. He won the con smythe as a playoff

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MVP in its first season and then won the Calder
as the Rookie of the Year in the next season.
Took a year off during his ANCIL career. Article with
a law from in Toronto. Just a rellly hell of
a guy.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Very very impressive.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Yeah, just an impressive human being. Showing that he's, you know,
bigger than the game, not identified by just hockey a
hockey player. But when he did play, holy shit, was
he good? And I mean to just come out and
dominate the way he dominated and then just think I'm good,
gonna go to some other things, get into the political
sphere of the world and just get a law degree

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and practice law and write books. I mean, just an
impressive human being and showing that a lot of hockey
players are more than just the skates and sticking pads man,
you know, so rip to a good one.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Just did all rankle a bit that he end was
running the leaves for a while, like he has known
so well in Montreal. Obviously this iconic goaltender was ever
odd to that Ken Dryme was running the troll may
be leaefs for of time.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
It's weird. Maybe it's why they didn't win, but you know,
he just was. It was too in love with the
Canadians at heart, so working for the least the least.
Such a tell.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Do you think you should get a statue outside the
Bell Center, Ken Dryden?

Speaker 6 (13:25):
Yeah, absolutely, I think it's I think it's time They've
got four statues out of the building. Outside that building,
you could make the case they should have at least
double that. I think, you know, the Dryden poes you
mentioned is so iconic, I think, and really one of
the most impressive not just hockey careers, but lives in
the history of yea of hot that's in terms of
so many things he accomplished.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I you know, we were texting by the other day.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
I started reading the game and for like the time
when I heard he had passed away and it still
holds up. It's still so good, And yeah, I think
he deserves it. I think the Canadians should absolutely. You know,
there's a lot of buzz around the team now, they're enjoying,
you know, some juice around the league. I think they
should consider maybe installing a couple of new statues starting

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with Ken Dryden'd be.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Very cool to see. Speaking of Canadian's goalies and Canadian's legends.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
A blockbuster trade Carrie Price the Sharks round pick thank
you for prospect gannon la Rock Carry Price has in
placed his twenty twenty two JD due to injuries, so
the deal basically frees up around ten million dollars in
cap space for the Habs, who could look to add
a contract before the season starts. When you think of
Carry Price obviously had incredible moments. Heart Trophy Vesna was

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really the face of the franchise for years. It doesn't
end great, which is often as the case for veteran players,
But how do you associate or just assess Carry Price's
run with the habs.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Well, I mean, is there a guy that I mean
that Heart Trophy season, I mean was just absolutely incredible
and how he just I mean he carried that franchise
for a while. I mean, he was such a fun
goalie to watch, so fun to just the way he competed,
the way he looked so calm in the net. But

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then when he needed to be just this uber athletic
guy and make these acrobatic saves, he had that in him.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
And he's one of those goalies.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
That you know, kind of struck fear in guys, like
you come down and you're like, oh shit, I gotta
shoot on Carry Price, Like I don't know where to go.
I'm just gonna close my eyes and pray. And that's
this kind of those goals you don't see them often
where you know it's it's you just can't figure him
out and and you know that run they had when
they got to the finals. He was there, correct, Yeah,

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he was there. Yeah, exactly right. I'm like, I'm like
getting mixed up a ton, Ken Dryden. I'm thinking of
the seventies, eighties. I'm like, gee, where am I right now?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
It's your kids, it's your kids soon.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's gotta be done about your kids.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
I think he's Yeah, he's just a fantastic well. I think,
you know, talking Montreal Canadians more. I don't love that
San Jose is my alma monitor just went and took
on another contract. I'm like Jesus Christ. But listen, I
think for Montreal they're doing all the right things. Ken
Hughes doing some amazing things there. I think it's gonna

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free up some cap space for you know, Lane Hudson.
Lane Hudson's got one year left. They got a lot
of couple guys. You know, Patrick Lione is coming off
the books next year. I don't think they'll resign him.
I think there's there's opportunity for a blockbuster for them
and really to take a swing here because I do
think made the playoffs last year. I think they're like, listen,
we're right there. We have a very good first line,

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you know in Suzuki Slavkovski and Kawfield. We've got Ivan Demidov.
We need to get some a centermen. We need to
find somebody via trade sign and trade. So I think
they'll be actively looking, and then they're also just going
to show up the guys they need to shore up.
Mike Matheson has a year left as well, so I
think they have to resign him. So that's two big
D men pieces that you know, maybe Matheson walks, but

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I think they'll try to get something done with him.
And then Lane Hudson, I'm sure is going to get
you know, a Dustin woolf s contract esque contract, which
is you know, fifty two million something like that, and
get paid because you know, he's, uh, he's just one
of those D man young demon you're gonna have to
lock up. And so I think they're thinking about all
of that. Now they get another contract off the books,

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and they're the things are trending up many They have
a lot to like in the system in the HL
and and you know, good coach, good front office, good captain.
It's uh yeah, I like where they're going.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Props with Jeff Gordon, Marty see Luis. They try to
continue the positive vibes. We'll do one more topic. We'll
get to the empty their boys after quick break. But
on the topic of goalies. NHL celebrating Goalie Week last week.
For the celebration, NHL dot com conducted a poll forty
two NHL players asking which goalie was the toughest to
score on Andre Vassel last year. The Tampa Lightning basically
on top of that pole, followed by Connor Hellibuk who

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won the Vesna and the hard Igor schusterkin Cergei Bobrovsky,
Jake Ottinger, Jeremy Swayman, and Thatcher Demko both received one
vote each in the poll.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
How accurate you with that list?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
You? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (18:09):
I mean, listen, the players have spoken, and I think
more than writers, I think the players understand. You know,
I don't know which forty two you took. Now, if
you took forty two of me when I played, I'm
sure we would it would have been a little bit
of different.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
But I'm sure they.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Took a lot of the top guys in the league,
and this is kind of what you get. I think
a lot of those top four goalies are interchangeable, you know, Bobrovsky,
Igor Hellabuck, and Vassilevsky to me, I kind of in
the same I put them in the same category. And
then I have the Ottingers and Swaymens that are kind
of just tickling just on the edge of that.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
So there's a lot of guys.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
You know, I don't think that thatcher Demko when he's healthy,
I think he's up there, but you know, he hasn't
really had a healthy year and he really needs to
get some semblance of consistency.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
But yeah, I like that.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
You know, it doesn't really move the needle a ton
for me, but yeah, I uh, it's it's really something
that Andrey Vaskos. I'd like to see Veaslevsky be a
little bit better than he's been. I just don't think
he's found the form that he once had, but you
could see the respect that he still has around the league.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
So yeah, as you said, there was no shocking omission
I think. I mean, if you just said, informally talked
with friends best goalies in hockey, you're gonna get a
list of Bob Schisturk and Hellabuck, and as you said,
Basilevsky's so interesting.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
How that should we talk about Dustin Wolf getting signed too?
That just that What do you think of that? What
do you think of that deal? We talk about young
guys getting big deals.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Well, the thing about Wolf and Calgary is that watching
that team a bunch having gone there for Amazon, like
it was honestly remarkable work by Ryan Hoskin.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Even in the playoff mix.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I couldn't believe, like the second last game of the
season the Flames could be in a playoff spot because
they were so offensively challenged.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
So to have a rookie come in.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
And play at that level and it doesn't mean they
weren't playing strong team defense or other aren't good players obviously.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Now he's in a great year Mackenzie Eager, et cetera.
But like, I love seeing a player who has that
kind of an impact on the.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Team already beloveding Calgary undersized goalie this year's Mike Vernan,
et cetera. To get locked up like that, Like there's
there's no reason to hesitate for me. If you Calgary,
you already know he's the guy get it done.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yeah, Goalies at a premium I I mean, what are
your thoughts on just and tell if you can check
the numbers on wolf seventy years fifty two point fifty
two point five, okay, I mean the signings of the
youth after playing one year. We had Frank Nazar. You know,
we're probably gonna have Lane Hudson to these ridiculously big

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contracts for the amount that they've proven. You know, I
was sitting with a couple guys having a couple of
cocktails the other day, some ex players I can't say who,
but older guys that were just irate with the GMing
being done in the league because they're they don't understand
why they're giving these guys. You know, Frank Nazar played

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fifty six games, he gets seven years. Dustin Wolfe great
season call their season only played one year. You look
at Laanehudson, He's gonna get a big deal, probably max
out something one year. It's like, you could get these
guys in a two three year deal, have them prove it,
you know versus when I played was really you know,

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you had to you didn't get paid till you're twenty eight.
Now it's a different league now, but there is like
I feel like there could be a happy medium.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
No, yeah, I mean the town has been an interesting point.
Go ahead, tell where even still the fact he can
still sen another big contract.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Yeah, I just sent av a little message. He's twenty four,
so he's gonna get a chance to get one, you know,
one last big deal after this deal. And the only
thing I was gonna say, I mean, think about how
many strong franchises there are whose fans are going crazy
about trying to find a goalie, you know, whether it's
the Leafs or the Oilers, and so I think especially
you know, looking just across the province, you know in

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Edmonton and the just the saga they've had trying to
find their goalie the Flames, I'm pretty sure figured we
got our guy. Like this is the guy who they
almost made the playoffs because of Dustin Wolf last season.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
So you know, I think it was a no brainer.
Let's wrap this guy up long term. I mean, he's
the foundation of the franchise. So that's what that deal
is all about.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, what's take a quarterback in football? If you got
your guy, go ahead and just lock him up and
figure out the.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Rest lock that bitch up. JJ McCarthy style.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
There you go big pin for the vikings with the Bears.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
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Couple of brothers hosts one of the most popular hockey
shows in the potto sphere. They build themselves as a
couple of beer League beauties and NHL fanatics. Were thrilled
to have the bomb this week. It's the host of
Empty Netters, Dan and Chris Powers. Let's start there, Dan,
beer League Beauties. That's like, that's pure hockey speak.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
For when you know someone's down for the cause.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
Listen, we always say it. Everyone ends up in the
same league eventually, so making sure that you have beauty
status at that final stage is the most important thing
in the world because that's where you will eventually meet everybody.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Well, well both of you talk a little bit about
your hockey journeys though, first, because and how the hell
you got into this world, because you guys are just
have a rich tapestry backgrounds and just amazing how you've
ended up where you've ended up.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
Yeah, it's a wild journey. We you know, the spark
notes of the hockey world. Born in Maine. Both played
New England Prep School. I'm actually repping it right now.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, nice, nice, nice.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
Both played New England Prep, both played Junior's college. And
you know, eventually the well drives up, as it does
for most of us. And we actually moved to LA
to get into the movie business, started writing movies and TV.
Been doing that for over ten years now. And what
Chris three and a half years ago, yeah covid right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We had written a TV pilot about hockey that some
execs read, loved it, thought we were funny, thought we
could maybe whip up an Instagram page and a podcast,
and next thing, you know, here we are and unbelievable,
people like you find us interesting enough to keep talking
into a microphone.

Speaker 8 (24:26):
So like it was crazy though at the beginning, because
Dan's right, it was just a page. Like at the beginning,
they just wanted us to post memes on you know,
make jokes about the hockey season, and entertainment was completely
shut down. So we were like, whatever we're doing, we're
shooting pucks in our backyard all day anyway, we might
as well make jokes about this.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
We legitimately it was like we just would post memes
and then highlight compilations to like E EDM music and hockey.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Like this is sick and it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Somebody in Hollway's going, you know what, can you guys
just a traplet this a little bit longer. These memes
also put this into a teleplay. It comes to that
natural passion, right, Chris.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
Absolutely, right, man, And there was head tation honestly at
the beginning when they wanted us to take it to
that next level of do a pod because at the
time it wasn't our face at all, right, we were
just this faceless page and pretty quickly because I guess
that was the AVS year, the AVS Cup year that
we started, and it was just the page. And then
going into that Vegas season, we were like entertainment was

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coming back by then, and I was a little worried
that if we dove headfirst into this next thing. I know,
we'd be in a studio head meeting about a movie
we wrote and they'd be like, is this you on.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
The phone, And I'd be like, Yeah, God, that is me.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
That is me.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
That's me and JD in Fort Lauderdale.

Speaker 8 (25:42):
I don't know what happened, you know, so you know,
it's leap of faith a little bit.

Speaker 7 (25:47):
But it were sitting in the sitting in the bed
MGM lounge.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
Oh, just chopping it up, getting me in trouble with
Jason Robertson.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
We'll get to in a little bit.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
But yeah, I mean talk about like you know, now
that you've been doing it for a while and you know,
I mean, the craziest thing when you when you're guys
that aren't directly in the NHL and you're doing a
hockey podcast is the reticence of players to kind of
open up to you and and and be kind of
your buddies. And you've managed to and because you're great

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guys number one, but you've managed to like rub shoulders
with so many athletes you're really close to true Dowdy,
like talk about that, like how how is your entry
point and how did you guys kind of attack this
a little bit to be like we got to make
sure that like we're doing right by the players but
also providing good content.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
Yeah, I think for us it was you know, once
we got at the beginning, it was so scary, yes,
making takes and and claims about the NHL things that
we think are gonna happen, because in the beginning you
definitely have that feeling of where new faces we didn't
play in the NHL, our NHL fans gonna look at
us and go, what the hell do these guys know? Like,

(26:58):
I don't you know we say something's gonna happen that
might upset a fan, they're gonna lose their minds, call
us idiots.

Speaker 8 (27:05):
So we were a little which still happened exactly.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
So when it came to getting players on, Matt Dushane
was our first guest, and when when Duchy was coming on.
We had always said we wanted to be a players podcast.
We wanted to make sure that we were gassing up
these guys rather than tearing them down, because we can't
stand local radio TV hosts people like that who just
make a living off of trashing on players, trashing on teams.

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So our big thing was every time you see these
guys do interviews, they're so pr trained. They do the team, team,
team thing. They never talk about themselves. They know exactly
what they're doing. What they're supposed to do. They follow
the lead of guys like Sid who have paved the
way on how to be a professional. So we kind
of thought, let's figure out ways to get these guys
out of their shell. And JD honestly like, the the

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easiest answer to that is to do what we do,
and it's just talk to them like human beings. So
we don't need to talk about the power play all
the time, we don't need to talk about the fan base,
talk about their favorite food, talk about the music they're listening,
and all of a sudden, these guys start to be like,
oh cool, we're just having a conversation here. And you know,
our goal whenever we have an interview, we always say
is to get someone to say, while you've done your research,

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or that's an incredible question. And those are those moments
where we do feel like you see their shoulders drop
a little bit in the interview and they go, we're
just snapping it around. We're just having a blast, And honestly,
with the guys like the way, we've been so fortunate
to develop relationships with people like you, JD, with with
guys like Drew, it's just these are our people.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Right.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
It's like I remember so clearly the day we had
been out here for almost a decade in la I mean,
working in the movie business, which is very political, you
got to figure out ways to navigate how you talk
to certain people, whether it be a massive producer or
an actor on the come up, there is a way
to sort of navigate that that takes a lot of finessing.

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And the day we started really getting ingrained in this
NHL world, talking with players, talking with coaches, you just realize, like,
I love this community, I love hockey people. And it
was just so quick snapping back into this is these
are the type of people we grew up with and
spent our entire lives with, so to now be back
in it was such a cool blessing.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's really well said.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
One of the great scenes in the Sopranos early on
Tony is lamenting to Melfi. He's like, you know, I
didn't get in at the ground up. He's like, now
the mob is not what it once was.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Not struggling.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
So you guys have seen this and again JD me
t how we've all been a part of corporations, organizations, projects,
When you.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Get to see the growth from the ground up. It
becomes much more fulfilling.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Chris, talk about that moment, certain players, certain moments you go, Okay,
this was just a thing we were doing as a lark,
me and Dan having a good time.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
But now it's actually become a thing.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
Man, I will never forget. There's a couple answers to that.
That's a great question. It's a good job.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Oh you got good job. And he got in he
got in lark.

Speaker 8 (30:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's really good. So, Uh, there's a couple
of moments for me. I think when we first started
to get play our guests. As Dan was articulating, that
was a cool thing because it was this definitely inflection
point in the pod where first it was just us
and now some guys are coming on. And then even
that first year, that first year went so fast for

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us where we had at Winter Classic. We emailed someone
at the League being like, Hey, we have this show
and if you will give us because it was at
Fenway and we were home anyway, so I was like,
if you would give us passes to Winter Classic, Uh,
here's all the type of content we could get for you.
And they emailed us back right away and they were
like absolutely not. I have no idea who you are.

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And I was like that's awesome, okay exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
So we were like, all right, whatever.

Speaker 8 (30:54):
So Dan and I we decided to go ourselves. Let's
just buy tickets and we'll shoot all the content we
were gonna shoot that we can with a regular ticket,
and then we'll send it to them and just say
here's what we would have done, you know, or whatever.
And we did and then they answered that email with
passes to All Star Game in February and they were
like unbelievable, we want you to be here.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
And I was like, okay, dude.

Speaker 8 (31:14):
And then the fact that it was like that year
we were at media day, you know, and I'm sitting
in front of Kale maccar literally shaking av with a mic.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
You know.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
It's that scrum of media and there's like everyone's there
asking the most serious questions and I'm looking at our script,
which is like the dumbest shit, like oh could you
shoot harder than Happy Gilmour? You know, And I'm like,
oh god, dude, like are we about to get escorted
at here?

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Like whove them?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
They passed?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Who are they? You know?

Speaker 8 (31:39):
And it's like the guys like it though, when when
you aren't just the normal thing, and I will I
will text you guys video after one of my favorite
moments in our whole careers, that first Stanley Cup, because
the same thing happened where a more media passed at
the Cup, right and at All Star it kind of
worked because it's it's All Stars.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
Was that Miami that year?

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Dan?

Speaker 8 (31:59):
I think, yeah, right, yeah, So it's like at All
Stars we ask goofy questions.

Speaker 7 (32:03):
All the boys laughed.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
We're in Florida, it's the break.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
Who cares?

Speaker 8 (32:06):
Now It's the night before Game one of the Cup
and I'm at media day and I'm like, oh, dude,
I don't know if they're gonna laugh anymore, right, Like
this is now quite serious and Jack chel is sitting
there and I like to let the reporters ask their
real questions first. I kind of wait till it's fins out.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Ye, they're doing.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yes exactly, Although it gets scary because then you wonder
if the players like annoying and the wants to leave.

Speaker 8 (32:32):
And these guys there, these guys are pulling them out,
you know what. I'm like, So, so Jack's there and dude,
I'll text video he's like this, and he's like uh
huh yeah, like all the questions about the cop and
it's your first time and all this stuff. And that
season Dan and I had a running bet going about
however many points Jack I go score? Dan had to
eat that many shrimp cocktail because we were we bet

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on and over under. So Jack is like sitting here
so bummed out. And then it gets to me and
I'm like Jack, Jack and he looks up and I go, Yo,
me and my brother have a bet with how many
points you score? He has to eat one shrimp cocktail.
I want to know does it extend the playoff points
or was it just regular season? And dude, you see
him like light up and he goes jumbo shrimp or
medium sized?

Speaker 7 (33:15):
What are we talking about here?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Boys?

Speaker 8 (33:16):
And he's just like so happy to just like chop
it up with the fellas instead of being just all
these boring cup questions. And I think for me, I
will always remember that moment where A it was such
a boost of confidence, but B it was such a
clear insight too. They just want to have fun too,
you know. And it really gave me a belief in
what you guys are doing, what we're doing what this
whole space is and that was that was awesome. I'll

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never forget that moment.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
I mean, that's Jack getting Jack Eichel showing any kind
of emotions.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Great.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Yeah, Dan, you talked a little bit about like, you know,
towing the line and hot takes, and you guys have
had a couple and you know, I go back to
the you guys out in the Edmonton oilers in the
playoffs about going to dinner before I was supposed to
when I worked this one playoff show two years ago.
You guys were supposed to do the show and you
kind of had a take that was fine in the moment,

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but like you know, obviously there's overreactions everywhere, But like,
was there any takes where you guys are like, oh shit,
we're we're like done or this. I don't even know
if we can post this, oh.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Man, probably definitely repeat them out and repeat them.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
What was your worst take of all time?

Speaker 4 (34:26):
No?

Speaker 7 (34:26):
I think I mean listen that that's the the benefit
of not doing a live show is if you get
too crazy with something, you can be like, oh, maybe
walk that back. But I don't know, I think the
I think we've been pretty good about. Anytime we've posted something,
there'll be times where people go nuclear in the comments, you.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Know what, j D.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
The first one was this, I stand by this take.
I think MSG is an incredibly overrated arena. Wow, And
and we there you go. And we posted that and
obviously New York Rangers fans went zerk in the comments.
And what was funny is that was pretty early in
our days. And you know, one thing about the empty

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Netaris community is there the greatest army in the world.
The engagement is always incredible. And that was early days.
And it was an Instagram post that had like eight
hundred comments and I was like, oh my god, we're
gonna get these people are gonna come at us with
pitchforks and torches to our front door. This is horrible.
And that was an early day of the you know,
being on the internet where our bosses were like, no,

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this is good, this is what you want. But we
did kind of have a chat after that of being like, listen,
I stand by that take.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
But it was more rats than fans in that building.

Speaker 8 (35:43):
Correct, And some of them are both.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Like firing up New Yorkers.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
Yeah exactly. Oh trust me, I make a business out
of it now. But no, we did kind of have
a talk in that moment of saying, let's not let's
not become this. Let's not go oh wow, that was great,
look at this engagement. Let's keep posting stuff like that.
So yeah, I mean, I'll we'll throw a hot take
here and there, but I feel pretty confident in that,
you know, over ninety five percent of them. If the

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person or the group that I was talking about that
I riled up came to me and said you're wrong,
I would stand there and defend it. And frankly, in
at Four Nations, during all the fights, you know, like
we we were posting videos of the fights, and I
think we posted something of the Brady the Brady Sam
Bennett fight where we captioned it like, you know, Brady

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with the with the knockout or something and God bless
him the you know. Two nights later, bumped into Brandon
Hagel and he was like, that wasn't a fucking knockout,
And I was like.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 7 (36:48):
I was like, you fucking hip tossed him and took
him down, and like the fact that those boys will
be able to just shoot the shit and joke around
like that is the best JD.

Speaker 8 (36:56):
Though I will add to just answer that in another
light to it has been hard, not hard, But he
had an adjustment of after that first year, maybe how
much the guys in the league see and are watching,
Like I don't think that first year, oh man, dude,
like because I wouldn't even say something that contentious, like

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I'd just be like that was a terrible play or whatever.
But then it's like the dude or his agent or
somebody was started reaching out being like they were pissed
about that, and I was like, oh my god, and
that not terrified me as just like a fan of
the league first of all, and second of all, as
a person running the show, you do have to walk
that line, or at least we feel like we do.
I know some people on TV just let it rip,

(37:38):
but I'm like, listen, I am not here to piss
anyone off for the most part, you know, so that
that's tricky.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Well.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
The thing with it, too, Chris is like it's not
that the guys watch it, it's their dad.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Their mom, their friends.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
And then you just get bombarded with like I don't
know how many times I had buddies like text me
be like, oh my god, I'm gonna who is this guy?

Speaker 3 (38:00):
I'm gonna kill him.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
He's he's saying you're just the worst player ever, and
I'm like, ah, it's and then he's like in the comments.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Like where do you live?

Speaker 5 (38:06):
I'm gonna come kill you, And you're just like my
dad's like, does is not sleeping at night because some
forty year old three hundred pounds slobs that I had
a bad, bad game or something like that. So it's
just like it's just your surrounding environment. But it does
get to you, like a little bit. And but it
is tough to walk that line because you want to
be honest, but you don't want to make guys look
bad either because it is such a hard league to

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play in all sports.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
But it's absolutely it's really toning that line.

Speaker 8 (38:31):
Especially in the like the finals, when so many eyeballs
are on the game and it's like someone has I'll
say an example, there was a stretch where it's like
I thought Stuart Skinner was playing badly, you know, and
it's like I'm like, oh man, McDavid must be pissed,
where he's like if I only had a goalie, you know,
And then I'm getting people talking to me like, dude,
Stud's like the nicest guy I've ever met, and you know,

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he's going.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Through a lot of stuff.

Speaker 8 (38:54):
He's like, I'm like, dude, I'm so because I don't
want Stuart Skinner to meet me one day and go,
I literally hate your guts because you were just gunning
me all playoff and I'm like, you're right. So there's
just I think there's ways to talk about it educatedly
but also politely, you know, and I try to always
air that way.

Speaker 7 (39:12):
You know who I'm afraid of is the wives. They
see everything and it's like, yeah, you start railing on
a team. Next thing, you know, you go to the
game and all the wives walking by you glaring at you,
and I'm like, oh god.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
It's like a game of phone Tech, right when one
gets worse and worse by telling first seething bad. All right,
let's test a little hot takes then McDavid. Everyone's still
talking about it. Dan, fire some people up. Where's he
gonna go? He's not going to Toronto?

Speaker 7 (39:35):
Right, No chance, absolutely no chance. Listen, I I've fired
up oilers fans plenty. I think I think he's staying.
I think we're gonna get a short term deal done
two years, thirty million. I think, Oh, you mean you

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mean thirty total. No, No, I think the PA. I
think I think he'll sign between sixteen and eighteen AAV.
And I think it's gonna be short term. I think
it's gonna be two to four years. I am officially
at the point. As much as I want to rip
a hot take here, I wish people would leave this
guy alone. Like it's just like every signal second he's

(40:18):
getting microphones shoved in his face, Like we can talk
about it, we should talk about it, but it's like
the poor guy's coming off a practice skate and it's
just like when you assigning, when you assigning, where are
you signing? But I will say I give him so
much credit for that no term comment like that was
that was, in my opinion, Connor McDavid's furthest effort of

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saying shut up like he said that to be like
I can do whatever I want, and that is that's
that's as rude as he will get. And I respect
that so much about him.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, he's gonna say stoking the flame.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
It's interesting though, Chris, because it's like you imagine every
single older sense. Wait, no, term like no, it's his paranoia,
it's hysteria, like, don't.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Say that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
But like he's earned the right set whatever you want
to do. I just I can't imagine the situation when
he leaves Edmonton, but it's a lot of fun to say, Hey,
I'm in Florida. I can't imagine Dallas, imagine Vegas like those.
I don't see him going to like a major market
in Canada. I don't think he's you know, clamoring somebody
should to arguement go to Tonoi's from Richmond Haileys.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I don't think he gives a shit Like no, I
think he wants to go.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
He flies to Toronto on the days off when there's
two days off, so he's fine.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, JD. I think you were getting
to it. I could totally see him leaving.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
I don't think he's.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Going to I think he's I'm I think this is
him testing management to finally he's like, what are you
guys going to do?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
And then he's also when.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
You're thinking about it, he's like, well, if I take
sixteen to eighteen, do we have any room left? Like,
who do we is a room left to sign somebody.
He's like, we need you know, we need goaltending. We
need D, we need D. We need listen. We we
made it to the finals, but I could argue that
their team was better two years ago than it was
last year. And I know the Hyman injury is huge,

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but he's probably like, show me what you're going to
do and I will sign then. And I and I
think he's earned that right completely to be like, listen,
they made it to the finals by committee, but large
in part because of him and Leon. I mean, it's
it is what it is, and sure they do other
worldly things. So I'm just like, you know, I think

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it's really him taking a step, taking a step back,
which I think he's deserved and earned, and being like,
fucking show me something like show me that we're gonna
say competitive Chris.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
To me, it's like someone says, what do you want
more the most money or to win and the.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Answer is yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want both.
I deserve the most so you figure it.

Speaker 8 (42:42):
Out, which he does, and I'm I'm aligned with you, guys,
But I one question or act to JD. I'll ask
you this because obviously the players are signing your own deal.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
And I'm interviewing you here, not the other way.

Speaker 7 (42:52):
Yeah, this is how I work my days off.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
So is there.

Speaker 8 (42:58):
As a player who's, you know, as a star player,
who's obviously like you're signing your own deals, but you're
discuss it with your teammates and your friends. If Connor
were to leave, certainly now, but even if he signed
a two year and then left, is Leon.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
Like, what the hell, dude?

Speaker 8 (43:12):
Like, Clearly there was conversation when I signed my eight
year ticket right or was there was there no conversation?

Speaker 7 (43:17):
It doesn't work like that.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
I I want.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
The only reason I believe where I haven't fully said
he's gone is because of Leon. Because I did a
thing on Amazon Coast to Coast where after they lost
the first year, and like Leon like leaned over to him.
Leon was like, and I was just joking that. Leon
was like, don't worry, buddy, I'm gonna sign here for
like ten years. We're gonna play forever together. And then
Connor just turns around and leaves the next year. I

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think they're too good at friends. I think they will
get it done. But I think, you know, that's the
only reason why I haven't fully just been like he's
fucking gone, and I know everybody's saying he's gone. I'm like,
people underestimate how close knit that core group of guys
as an Edmonton They're really really good.

Speaker 7 (43:57):
It would be the most a two brute move of
all time. Yeah, if Leon signed, like is Leon was
the guy when was like I could see him if anywhere,
and then if Connor did, it'd be crazy. But what
you guys were talking about with we were looking at
it just yesterday on the pod. It's like I think
coming off the books for them is Connor, Henrik, eck Holme,

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and then a couple of like three or four role players.
So it's like that money is like what you're gonna get,
you know, a bottom six and a third pairing guy
with that money. Henrik not making that much and ech Holme,
like you got to replace Eckholme's output. He's thirty five
right now and he's making four million less than that

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type of caliber player. So if you're trying to replace that,
it's gonna cost way more. Connor's number goes up. He's
got the PA and his agents in his ear being
like you can't take some crazy team friendly deal, it's
gonna fuck over everybody else.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah, that's the shitty part about that. It's brutal. It's
brutal in his ear exactly.

Speaker 7 (44:58):
So it's just like, yeah, it's you know, it's tough
because I agree with you JD completely is. I think
he is very much at this point. The guy just
wants to win more than anything. And I think he's
looking at Bowman and that team and going, how are
you gonna make this happen? Because they do not have
a lot of money and if he signs for seventeen mil,
they have no money. So it's like, all right, what

(45:21):
do you do now?

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I do want to squeeze a little bit of movie talk
before we can let you guys go. Obviously, people often
talk about hockey movies, and I don't want to be
a contrarian cris Like, obviously Slapshot is great, and you
can have an argument for Miracle and Muddy Ducks.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
But the one that I throw out though, the people
can go, huh, I got.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
The Rocket, which is a great film, which is me Rocket,
like you can a really deep hockey movie, really good
movie Rockets. I think Rocket's a great movie. And the
other one of course again, being Canadian is goon.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
What do you think more people.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Know because of Jay Bearshell and Liev Schreiber. But talk
to me about The Rocket. I think it's a great movie.

Speaker 8 (45:53):
Dude, such a deep cut and great call by you.
Awesome pick. I would say less. I wonder what you
think about this, I would say less commercial, Like, if
you are a hockey fan, you love it. But if
I just show, like Jad you mentioned mister Lascar earlier,
we'll watch hockey movies with our friends that have never
seen them.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Darkenest movie ever. Yeah, it's crazy crazy.

Speaker 7 (46:15):
The movie is it's really yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:18):
But yeah, I was gonna say, I'll show movies like
that like Ducks to friends who aren't hockey people, because
I'm like, whatever, this is Hollywood, a fied enough that
you'll love it. But if I have a hockey fan
who's never seen The Rocket, I'm going I'm probably going
Miracle first, but then I'm going Rocket too, because it's
it's that awesome. If you're if you're in it already.

Speaker 7 (46:36):
Okay, it's just it's just not mainstream, you know, like
there's no there's no big actors in it. It's not
you can tell you. Honestly, it feels like an indie
when you watch it. But yes, it is great and
if you're a hockey fan, you're gonna love it. But
you know what, I was having a conversation with someone
the other day about this other than Miracle, which I
would put up there against any sports movie as possibly

(46:57):
the best sports movie of all time, and I would
I would lightly nudge Mystery out into that bucket as Miracle. Well,
but this is what I mean. Every other mainstream hockey
movie is so goofy and silly, you know what I mean,

(47:18):
Like all the Ducks movies goon like you mentioned Slapshot,
Like they go for this silly slapstick vibe because it
feels like Hollywood for decades was just like no one's
gonna buy into like a dramatic hockey story. You look
at you look at baseball, football, Basketball, All of these
movies are these super dramatic, intense roles. And I'm like,

(47:40):
that's what we need. We need another hockey movie. I
think actually a TV show might get it done. That
just shows how excellent and intense and dramatic hockey can be.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Yeah, I would love to see like uh like, and
I don't know just because they've heard the movie like
just a dark hockey movie, like kind of a south Paw,
like the Boxing movie. It was like even I saw that,
I just saw that. I'm really excited to go see
him the football movie. I just think something like that

(48:11):
really dark dark, because there is a dark side of hockey.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
It is what it is.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
There's a lot of concussion stuff, injury stuff. You know,
there's there's been a lot of tragedy, and it's like
there's there's a dark side that you could really touch
on and really kind of play with.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
That would be wild.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
But I mean, other than you know, Miracle, it's hard
not to say slap Shot. I just think Slapshot is
so incredible for that vein. But this other sneaky one
that I love is his young Blood. I I've always
loved Young Blood because it's it kind of is dark,
but it is like just they don't know what they
didn't know what the fuck they were doing. But Keanu

(48:48):
Reeves is the goalie and it's like, what are we
doing here?

Speaker 3 (48:53):
That movie is so that movie is ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
Yeah, it's so so absurd. I love that dude.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
We're trying to get we Rob like, yeah, we're in LA. Obviously,
we've been trying to get Rob on the pod to
talk about it, and he's a few times he's been like,
I'm interested. So that's that's like my great white buffalo
right now, a young Blood breakdown.

Speaker 7 (49:13):
He's pissed because JD, you know, Chris Nelson Nell, he's
well on a young Blood too, and Rob's not involved,
so he's pissed off.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
I tried to I tried. I tried to get put
my hat in the ring to act in it.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Hell, yes, supporting JD. It's still skate quick with a quip.
He's funny, he's an actress.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
But there's no reason Jada can't do it.

Speaker 7 (49:33):
Then that, right, there is why we can't put our
support behind young Blood too.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
It's like JD's not in it.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, I'm not going.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, Jad was mentioning, guys, did you write for Taylor
Sheridan at all?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Obviously a massive powerhouse right now writing? Is that true?
Do you have Taylor shardan story for me?

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (49:49):
So, well, we worked with Keith Cox is the president
of Paramount Network, and he's just helped crafted that entire universe.
And I mean just seeing like everything that's been built
throughout the Yellowstone Universe with Taylor, all the things that
he's working on, and now it's like, god, what is it, Chris,
he has like fifty shows now, it's dude, it's crazy.

Speaker 8 (50:08):
Because I used to help produced, not produce. I was
on the network side. But with sun Dance TV, we
did a show called Close Up, Close Up with the
Hollywood Reporter, and it was like around award season, you
get a round table of five actors, five actresses, five directors,
blah blah blah, and Taylor was trying to act and
then he wrote he did Sacario, but he had done
Hell or High Water, which I loved.

Speaker 7 (50:28):
I don't know if you got Jake. He's so under
the radar, but it's so good.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
God watch it like five times, dude.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Same.

Speaker 8 (50:36):
So he came on the show for that, and it's
a really close set because usually it's stuff hasn't come
out yet, right, So it's literally like the host and
me and then the producers. So after all having lunch
and then you can hang out with the people and
usually like the big actors take off, but Taylor was
just like kicking around and I was like, hey, dude,
what's up. I really liked the movie and we just
were having a bite and he was talking about yellow.

(50:58):
You know, He's like, I have this plant for this
TV show and I was like, yeah, man, it sounds cool.
But in my mind, I'm like, why, dude, you just
did two sick movies, Like why are you going to
bounce off the TV psych He makes like the biggest
TV franchise of all times, twenty spin offs.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
He's a billionaire.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
And I was like, oh, yeah, that was that was
very good.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
So why do you do that? Yeah? Very good, sir.

Speaker 7 (51:15):
And so you know what pumps us up is, you know,
he's got all of these projects in that incredible world
and that whole like Texas Midwest Vibe. And then recently
we had Taylor Kitsch on the podcast and he'd be
a big hockey player Canadian guy and talking to all
of them about you know, uh, Kitcher is on Friday
Night Lights. He's done these amazing shows. Taylor has this

(51:36):
whole universe that's just like this awesome, intense, gritty world,
and I'm like, this is it, guys, this is how
we make a good hockey show.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Like put it together.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
Yeah, you know, like getting Taylor Kitchen involved like he
he was in Friday Nights as a player. Now he's
at a point in his career where he could be
an amazing coach type character. Taylor's universe is such a cool,
gritty world. I'm telling you, this is how stuff comes about.
So we get that cool dramatic hockey show.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Well, we could have the dramatics.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
And I don't know if I've told you guys about
this about you know the blowback from my Jason Robertson quote.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
If I told you guys about this, I know I
haven't heard what happened. What happened yet, we don't know
the blowback.

Speaker 7 (52:13):
No.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
So I was filming for body Armor in the NHL,
so you know, I was going to Michigan and I
was filming two days with two players, and I didn't
know who the players were. So it's like day before
and I'm like, who are we filming with? And they're like, oh,
we're filming with Luke Hughes and Jason Robertson, And I'm like,
oh shit. And literally as I'm reading it, you guys

(52:35):
post the clap of me shitting on Jason robers It
was a great take and I'm like, and listen, take
or not take.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
You know, whether it was right or wrong.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
I'm like, oh my god, and this is one of
those moments like there's no way he's listening. So I'm like, okay.
I'm like, I asked you guys to take it down.
I don't even know if you did. But so I
get to the rink and Andrew Ferns, who's helping out
with the shoot.

Speaker 7 (53:01):
He'd be line fifth, fifteen out of ten.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Guy, amazing.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
He be lines to me and he goes, hey, do
we have any problems today?

Speaker 3 (53:10):
And I was like, what do you mean?

Speaker 5 (53:11):
He goes, I was like, on the way here, listening
to your Jason Robertson clip and I was like no,
and he's like, He's like, you better hope that Robertson.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Didn't listen to this. So I'm like, holy shit. So
I'm on the ice with him.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
So I walk into the rink and it's Robertson skating
with his He skates with his brother and Jacob Chickrid
so I know Chick. So I'm like, so I kind
of like walk around and I'm just walking and I
kind of yell at Chick like chicky.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
So he like sees me be lines. What's up.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
He's like, what are you doing here? I'm filming with Uh,
I'm just filmed with the NHL. Without missing a beat,
he goes, Robertson's pissed at you right now? I said up,
I said no. He goes, yeah, man, he goes, he's
playing the clip in the room. No, dude, he goes,
he's playing your clip of you shitting on him in
the room.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
He goes, and I was like, oh are you.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
I'm like seriously, and I'm like Jesus, and I'm like,
i gotta nip in the butt. So like now the producers, yeah,
for the show, you know producers that are oh my god,
they're just like all nervous. Everybody's like, oh my god,
like like you got to go smooth it over, like
like we got to get these shots, like we have to.
So Robertson comes on the ice and start shooting and
I'm standing on the bench and he kind of I'm
talking to chick and he be Line's over. And it

(54:24):
was so awkward at the starting because I was like
I just was like I got to go forward facing.
I'm like, hey you mad, I'm like, you mad? At me,
like you mad, and he's like, no, We're good, and
I was like.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Oh this shit, what I want. I'm like I wanted
like a little laugh shirt back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
He kind of like shakes my hand and then he
just takes off, and then he was like really kind
of like asking like what are we doing? Why are
we here? And I was like, oh no, So I'm
like I got to figure out a massage this. So
finally we end up like we start to shoot, and
he ended up being like the best episode because like
I had no idea how analytical he was, to the
point where I was like, I'm a fan of yours now,

(55:02):
And I told him at the end, I'm like, listen,
I get what like your goals and stuff. I'm like,
you study so much of like the little nuances of
hockey that I'm like I understand you now. And I'm like, okay,
I'm like I'm a fan. I'm like I gotta eat crow.
But like I was like, I'm gonna have to fight
this kid, to fight Jason Robertson. You know, it's like

(55:24):
one of those things where he's like playing it cool
and then once they they say, hey, go action. He
was like in a two hand me behind the legs
or something.

Speaker 8 (55:33):
Dude, bro, you're so right with I don't even I'll
tell you off air, but because I don't eve want
to bring it up again. But a while ago, but
not that long ago, I said something on a pod
that to me was a nothing burger. No names, I
didn't say anyone's name. I just like told this one thing.
And then after I saw the guys and they were like, yo,
don't do that like that. You didn't ask, and I

(55:53):
was like, oh, like one hundred percent of my bad
I thought that was in play and it wasn't. And
it was the it was like I'm not mad disappointed
type attitude, you know what was what was it? Ship?

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Again?

Speaker 8 (56:05):
No?

Speaker 1 (56:06):
No, but it was like that I came live with
this pot to be over so we find out what
it actually was.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
So you know what I mean. So they weren't.

Speaker 8 (56:12):
I was ready for them to beat me back, like oh,
they're passed. But then they were like, yo, dude, that sucked.
And then I felt awful for a week, you know,
because I was like, sorry, dude, Yeah, so I totally
hear you where you just be mad?

Speaker 5 (56:23):
Yeah, be mad, be bad, but like, like, let's hash
it out, like, let's brow geny as big as he
puts in the airing of grievances.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Just let me know where we're at.

Speaker 8 (56:30):
Yes, dude, totally right, totally right.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
That's no grievances here. Ever, these guys were awesome, man,
Danny Chris Powers. Make sure check out the Empty Nerves podcast.
Hopeing this is not the last time we speak. This
was great, great fun boys. Thank you have an awesome season.

Speaker 7 (56:42):
Absolutely, boys, We'll come back anytime. This is whenever you want.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
This is awesome, all right, More hockey talk was here
in just a second of a real quick cine file
and sixty I Like Me the new John Candy documentary
premiere of the Tip Festival.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Obviously rave reviews there.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Colling Hanks, the son of Tom Eggs, directed it, and
it seems like a real, you know, love affair for
one of Cana's great comics and a guy who clearly
loved sports. Wasn't a huge hockey guy, big CFL guy
John Canyon, former owner of the Toronto Argonauts, and Ryan Relinds,
one of the producers of it. Cannot wait to see it, JD.
I watched the trailer for it. I read a great
book years ago by Martin Nelman. It's called Laughing on

(57:22):
the Outside, and it just talked with John Candy and
all the challenges he had to overcome. Essentially, you know,
he said, when you were that big and everyone was
expecting to be funny, the pressures in the stress would
impact him. Heavy smoker, a drinker, obviously overeating, but beloved
by all.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
And I cannot wait.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Once you saw the trailer, all the people were speaking
about him, obviously. Steve Bart one of my favorite comedies
ever Planing, Strings and Autobiles, which is where they get
the title, you know, Tom Hanks, Martin Short, etcetera.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
This looks like a great documentary that will be all
the fields. If you're fan of Canadian comedy.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
What's your favorite John Canny movie? Plan Strings and Aamoabile,
That's what it is. What's your second favorite?

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Home Alone? No? Not home alone, Uncle Bucks?

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Sorry? Yeah, home alone?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
A cameon Home Alone, Uncle Bob.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
I was like, was he the Pigeon Lady and home Alone?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
I'm gonna go a great outdoors number two?

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Ah? There you go?

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Okay, I mean yeah, he kind of Canadian? All right,
don't CFL. That one got me. Yeah, I know that
he's the big CFL fan, not hockey. That's it's rare
and very rare.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, well you're gonna leave.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
So no, I love the Argonaut's like really like okay,
love Condridge, Holloway him, Bruce McDonald, Wayne Gretzy co owners
back in the early nine He's got rocket, his meal
to the team. I never kept saying Gretzky's involved, like
he's just you know, throw a check in mcdowla.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Okay. John Candy was like the front facing guy. He
was agoing, he was locked in.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
He's like the Jerry Jones of the Argonauts who was
very interested in the personnel and all that was going on.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
So love the CFL.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Interesting comment from Rob Hudson asked about his son, Montreal
Canadian's defenseman Lane Hudson, not being invited to the USA
Hockey Olympic camp. You never know what happens in the future,
the Manitoba born Hudson said on a Habs cast, my
boys are also Canadian, So Papa Hudson seems to be
floading the idea of his son playing internationally for canad
There is press that Evan always knows Brett Hall born

(58:59):
in Belleville, Ontario, but fantasy passed over by Team Canada
for eighty six World Championships and then hell the grudge
the rest of the way like ninety six Wold Cup.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Now I'm playing for USA. You guys passed me over.
This's what we're gonna do. So what are the odds
in this case?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
JD Lena Hudson plays for Canada even though he should
have been invited by Team USI.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
I mean, he ain't getting invited to Canada, let alone USA.
It's so like, you know, there's I do. I think
USA messed up. I think they should have brought him
to the camp. Why not he was I don't think
he was making the team because he's Again, you need
to build the perfect rosters, so you can't have too
much of the same player. They got Quinn Hughes there,

(59:39):
that's his comparable. That's the guy that you spot you'd
be taking.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
He's gone.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Then you got Zach Wrensky as well, so you got
your offense taken care of. You don't need any more
you need, you know, to round out your decour And
then you look in Canada, you got mccarr. You got
Jay Theodore, you got Josh Morrissey a fan of the show,
so you really just you know again, I love the
passion from the parents. You know that's great, but also like,

(01:00:05):
you can't become a hindrance or distraction to your kid.
You got to just take a step back. I know
you're a hockey parent, you understand you're pissed, but listen,
just take a beat, take a breath. I don't think
it was this huge affront against him. I just think
they thought, well, we're just you know, we're just there's
a good chance he's not on the team.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
He's not on the team.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
He's most likely obviously not, So why, you know, other
than the experience, why do we need to bring him
and hopefully it lights a fire under his ass and
you know, he shoves it up their ass. So it's
just like to me, it's it's just funny the reaction.
I love passion from parents, but I'm also like, just
don't fuck this up, like, because like, you're not gonna
play in Canada. So I'm like, I don't know what

(01:00:46):
what you think is gonna happen if you go to Canada.
I hope you got like a Kazakhstanian passport as well,
because once that's done, I mean, you know, it's just like,
don't bite the hand that feeds you a little bit
and just let him get ready for the season. He'll
have a nice break, you'll be able to stay healthy.
All those guys will be worn out coming back. He'll
be able to really get his team to the playoffs.

(01:01:08):
And he's got a long career ahead of him, and
I do suspect and expect him, not suspect. I expect
to see him in the Olympics in the future. So
there's no there's no rush. You'll get there when you
get there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Kiddo.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Work with Brett Hall of twenty sixteen World Cop on
the Spin, of course, my doppelganger and your buddy Chris
Chellio's And I told Hall just I'm a huge fan
of yours. He's a really funny guy. He's unspoken, obviously
an incredible goal scary.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
It just defends me. He did not play for Canada.
He goes, listen, it wasn't my choice. They cut me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
I said, no, but well, you get over that like
it was it was eighty six eventually, go, you know, now,
I'm good now he goes with my dad Bobby Hall.
He was like, you take that grudge of the grave,
so I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Are you a big grudge guy? I'm not a grudge guy.
I think I let it go. Who cares? Fine, because
it's what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
If the ify all the grudge for every coach she
had to fucked me over. I mean I'd be I'd
be in a I'd be in a river somewhere, that's
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I've been a milk carton. One.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Guy's one of the more popular players in the sport.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Matt Rempey all over New York over the weekend six
to nine Rangers for It, made appearance the Nhlster in
Manhattan before attend the New York Jets season for what
a game, by the way, you went there with Adam Edstrom.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Wild game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
There's Aaron Rods still got it Steelers over the Jets.
Rempy clearly a fan favorite. He's all those guys JD.
If you see him, obviously you're going.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
To know who he is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Eight points in forty two games. But do you think
he gets a bigger role with the Rangers? Pun intended
with a new coach and some roster changes, I.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Think you'll have an opportunity. I mean, you can't not
use that size. Him and Adam Nstrom, the you know
Edstrom that these two guys that can are big in skate,
you got to use that size. You look at the
Brian Boyles of the world like there's a role in
if these guys can skate and think the game, which
you know, Rempy took some strides in improving this offseason,
sorry last offseason, in the season, and you know, I

(01:02:56):
expect him to do it again. And I think he's
doing the smart thing, which is saying yes to all
the events and everything for the Rangers.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
They probably asking him.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
You want to become a fan favorite, become undeniable with fans,
and that sometimes will keep you around a little bit
longer than you know most fans would think, because you know,
owners and gms and coaches aren't stupid. They know that
this kid brings energy to this team, brings energy to
the building. At times, the MSG building can be a
little bit of a mausoleum, and I just think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
They second shot by the way MSG this podcast, I
like it. Keep going listen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I love MSG.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
When I played there the one time, the icon the
Walk up the ramp is amazing. Yes, it's a little
dark and the fans are far away. It's just what
I didn't like. I did fight at MSG, didn't last long,
but I was there. The gloves were shed. But anyway,
like Matt Rempey, So Matt Rempey being the Manhattan night

(01:03:58):
that he is now right hobnobbin with all the rich
folks in New York, all the libs, and he's, uh,
he's really endearing himself to the fan base in the organization.
So I think he's gonna he's gonna get a look
for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I like it smart to know as a guy who's
popular on the ice, but also hopefully on the ice
as well. Another topic here for where you're gonna close
this something special for Sabers forward Zach Benson got a
pretty nice return and his deal with teammate Josh Norris.
So Norris is gonna wear number nine this season for Buffalo,
previously Warren by Benson, who's gonna switch to number six? Now,
what are you gonna do for me? Norri's gonna get
Benson two designer bags? Ge do you hear this all

(01:04:34):
the time?

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
In all sports? Guy gets trade hates my favorite number.
Can I buy a Rolex and I do whatever it
needs to be. I've never heard quite two designer bags
in a jersey trade.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
If if you traded your jersey number for something for
your girlfriend or wife, I'm gonna lose it, right if that,
if they if those aren't like Duffel bags, like something.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
You're you, it's designer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
He's like this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
If it's like a.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
Designer bag for his girlfriend or wife, I am just
gonna absolutely lose it because that is no. Take the
role X, take a yeah, take a role X, take
a pair of shoes, take a car if you want.
But like Jesus, don't do this, don't do this. Let's
not do this. Come on, designer, Come on, designer bags.

(01:05:20):
You're making enough money to get a designer bag. Get
her a coach bag until you're ten years in the
league and she's earned it, and then you go out
and get it. You get out whatever the other bags are,
Saint Laurent or whatever it is, the what is it?
What Jenny mccarth's name, I don't even know these these
bag names.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
What are the big bags?

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
But those are like big, But there's there's like another
level above isn't there like Hermes and all that stuff
and anyway, bag, yes, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Burking bag.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Talwold know it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
I knew Talwon know Town's town knows it all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Ben's is twenty not married yet.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
But I guess you see those guys priority go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
Just to wash the taste out of my mouth of
that designer bag, you know, and what I've seen in
my career, you know, I saw guys. I think it
was just guys to get a watch, Just get a watch.
Nice role us that appreciates it, you go. I know
Birkins appreciate too. And it's an investment, but it is
what it is. But to watch it tastes it in
my mouth. We got to talk a little baseball, please,

(01:06:22):
and we got to talk a little bit of cooking.
Oh my god, okay that cooking in the sense of
what is what was your guys take of the home
run that was hit. I think it was the phillies
and the father that grabbed the ball for his son,
and then the Karen that came running and was like
sporating this guy to the point that he gave gives

(01:06:47):
his kids ball away to this woman. She gets booed
out of the stadium. But who's more at fault, the
Karen or the father? The father you caught the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Someone's attacking you saying, no, it's my blah blah blah.
You gonna listen, it's for my son, blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
And then that's it. You just let it go. The
Karen is obnoxious, But what do you expect from the Karen?

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Right, It's like the classic story of the scorpion going
across the river and you know, the buffalo asked for
a ride. Scorpius is no problem, scorpion hits him, they
both die. What do you mean, well, it's in my nature, Like,
what do you expect I'm a scorpion, They're dealing with
a karen.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
What is that analogy? I've never heard of that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, I could have told it better.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
But tewn those are a scorpion in a buffalo.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Yeah, it's in the It's in the Crying Game. Great,
great movie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
But yeah, Forrest Whitaker's the Sira, a prisoner, and Stephen
Racer is telling the story.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
He's like, listen, you know the scorp and the buffet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
They're going across the river and the buffalo is the
scorpion is ta get a ride, and the buffalo is like, no,
you're gonna kill me. He's like no, no, He's like, come on,
he's a guy. We're trying to get across the river.
And so then as he does it, scorp buffalo, they
both died together.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
It's like, what are you doing? I told you I can't.
I can't help. It's my nature. So for the Karen,
it's in her nature to be a Karen. She's not
going to be anything other than that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
As a father, for him to turn turtle on his
son and not stick up fro, I'm like, no, this
is the ball. Like on some level, I get his
level of frustrations, like, Okay, I don't care that much.
There's more important things than a baseball. Like if you're
gonna be a bitch about it, fine, But kind of
he's more at fault. If you want to ask a
very pointy question, who's the fault kind.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Of him, you go ahead tell me.

Speaker 6 (01:08:09):
I mean, I think that the internet is doing its
thing and this this woman is just getting absolutely shelled
shelled everywhere, rightfully, so rightfully.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
So I mean whole behavior.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
You can't really get behind that kind of behavior, and
of course he was caught on camera. I mean, I
thought the dad gave up the ball a little, a
little easily, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I mean, I kind of get it. He's there with
his kid.

Speaker 6 (01:08:34):
He doesn't want his kid to see some raving, lunatic acting,
you know, like that right in front of him, and
probably just wants to avoid a confrontation.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
But I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
It's easy for me to say because I haven't been
in that situation. I haven't taken my kid to a
ball game yet. But but talent, it would be hard
for me to give that up just for some you know,
just for some woman who's just yelling at me. If
someone was like, listen, if there was another kid, or
I don't know, some other some guy in a wheelchair
who knows what the situation would be.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Maybe some in a wheelchair, I like it rolling down.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Can you imagine?

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
I'm just saying, you have to make a more compelling
case for that ball than like, Hey, I'm angry and
I want the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Yeah, I think I look, I think that I said.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
Still, the dad is coming all off way more sympathetically
than this Phillies, Karen or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
They're they're calling.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
I think that I just don't understand why people act
like that in public.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
And I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
Oh people are unhinged. They're just waiting for their moment,
which crazy is. You know you talk like my my dad,
I think growing up I saw him getting too, like
three scuffles because people being douche canoes like like doing
that and my Dad's like, no, I'm not, and and
every time would end in us in the car home

(01:09:53):
being like, you don't let anybody disrespect you, don't let
anybody disrespect you had And we went in to carry
hot dogs in Montreal and it was one of the
all time great stories.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
I think.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
I was like I was with We just finished a
hockey game and I was like ten years old, maybe
ten to eleven, And we go to this to carry
hot talks and we walk in and it's a very
We're in French speaking part of town. We all spoke French,
but we spoke English when we're in public together. Started walking,
we're speaking English. Head's turned. My dad's in his suit
because he he coached us, but he's also worked in business.

(01:10:26):
So we go to get to the counter to order
and there's you know, a big French guys sitting there
and he's got his hand on the table, and my
dad goes to walk by and excuse me, you know,
can I get by? And the guy like kind of
looks back and like giggles, and my dad goes in no, like,
excuse me, I want to go by, and the guy's
like mumbles in French, like dirty English, and then all

(01:10:49):
of a sudden, I just see this guy get dwarf
tossed across across the to carry hot talk. Them just
threw him out of the way and just and just
literally in French screaming like you think I'm English basically,
you know, we're French skated too, and then just a
skirmish ensues. My mom's getting him out of there, and

(01:11:10):
we're in the car and there's like my the kids
that I play with, like two of my friends that
I play hockey with, and my.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Dad's in the car. You know, anybody fucking disrespects you
like that, ever, you don't do that, And I'm like,
come on, get him dead, get him dead.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
And I'm like I just envisioned my dad standing there
and he probably would have dwarf tossed this one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Carold Demers has not taking that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
Okay, Oh he's dwarf tossing this woman across, probably down
three rows to a standing ovation and the crowd goes wild.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Your dad sounds like Joe Peshi and Good Fellas. If
you say one wrong thing to him, that's it hair true.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
Yeah, he wears his suit and then if you piss
him off, it doesn't take much.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Dirty English, Dirty English?

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Hey did I took it from everyone? I dirty English
and I played in the NHL. That was dirty French.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
This was a ton of fun. Thanks once again the
emptying our boys. Those guys were awesome. Make sure to
check out their podcast. Thanks as always a J. D.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Intel.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Once a week we'll be here with you. Great guests
coming up. Make sure you spread the word. NHL Unscripted
coming at you. NHL Unscripted is a production of the

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