Mike Knuble on Gretzky and Ovi: Our favorite guest moments from Season 1.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
Welcome to NHL Uscripted episode number forty two, Coming at
you Jason de Burz on his honeymoon that's read a

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year and a half later off right now, enjoying the
wonderful country of Italy. So we'll get reports back from
JD when he is back. But it's me and Tal
coming at you right now here on Unscripted. And you know, listen,
every great show has a little clip show right the
highlights the best of whether it's the Tonight Show.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Or a Tonight Shall Unscripted, we want to show you
what really was season one. So tell it's been a pleasure,
my friend. I think this will be a fun episode, right,
A lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I think it'll be cool to look back on and
everything that's gone on since we started the show at
the beginning of the season and just going through these clips.
I actually even forgot about how fun some of our
guests have been since we got started.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
So it'll be a lot of fun going through all
these always a good feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
By the way, our special guest today brand new content
has always unscripted is Mike Knuble was a seriously terrific
player for a long time the NHL over a thousand
games and has great stories. Great to job by talent
digging up the fact that he is the only player
ever to assist on goals by both Wayne Gretzky and
Alexander Ovechkin, the two greatest goal scorers in hockey history.

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You hear what Canneble's thoughts are about that? And plus
what was really a storied career? So Mike Cannuble's coming up.
But first, some clips the best of NHL Unscripted Season one,
including our first guest who is hysterical, the kid Mirro
talking about Dominicans loving hockey. I love the fact, kid,
you mentioned the past how old men in the Dominican
Republic follow hockey stats religiously.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
How does that happen?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yes, because here in America we have recently well well
I mean in nationwide, we have recently legalized wagering on sports,
and the Dominican Republic wagering on sports has always been legal.
So nothing will motivate you to learn how many points
miras loft Chatan has in the season. And then a

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little scratch, you know what I mean. So that was
literally the anecdotal story was me, what, so they're called
bankas in dr Like you can just walk into like
a little kioskue and like put in, you know, fill
out a ticket with whatever, parlay do do whatever. And
I saw a guy in there taking the over on
mirrorslapshintan goals for like at thirty or something like that.

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He had forty that year.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
I was like, damn. I was like, hey, Bartolo hit it.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Like, I'm seeing this guy fill out a ticket and
it's like mirror slaps. I was like, what it's like
Buffalo City, the whole nine. I was just like, yo,
this guy does not speak a word of English.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Where are y'all this are you? How do you get.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
NHR network here in the Dominican Republic via satellite?

Speaker 6 (02:52):
Like?

Speaker 7 (02:53):
What are y'all doing?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Most recently, he was a member of the national team
the Bottle Goal for America and the double IHF World
Championships the first time since nineteen thirty three. Welcome Connor
Girl in the NHL in descripted how you doing man, good?

Speaker 8 (03:04):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 9 (03:05):
Guys.

Speaker 10 (03:06):
You've represented US now for a couple of tournaments, say
the least. What was different about this team? For you
and and and what was just the feeling in that
locker room from jump?

Speaker 8 (03:19):
You know, the two other teams I was on had
a lot of success. We went, I believe six and one.
We won about eight games in a row and then
lost in the Semish. The other team we went undefeated
to the Semis. So the difference about this team was
we kind of got, you know, beat pretty good early
on in the tournament by Switzerland, and then we were

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up five to one against Norway and we ended up
having to win in overtime.

Speaker 11 (03:44):
They scored five straight the third.

Speaker 8 (03:45):
So after that game, we kind of we had a
lot of changes, We worked on some stuff in our system,
made a couple of lineup changes, and as a group,
we kind of bought in and it was just nice
to have a wake up call and kind of get
your teeth kicked in by Switzerland early on, and we
had we had a lot of veterans that proud and
we weren't going to be another US team that lost
in the quarters or you know, so we were really

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proud of how we bounced back after that.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
How about Tage Thompson's overtime winning the celebration after that,
how sweet was that.

Speaker 8 (04:12):
Yeah, it gives me goosebumps when you say it, like
at my neck.

Speaker 10 (04:15):
It's the greatest.

Speaker 8 (04:17):
It's the greatest feeling I've had in the game. Uh,
you know, I I I've lost a lot in the
semi finals or finals in my career in junior and
a very good league and the NHL last year we lost,
so it's to get on the other side of it.
Was such a great feeling. I was I was up next,
I was changing for him, so I was sitting kind
of trying to focus, uh, trying to figure out I

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thought Filla was coming out. So I was like, oh,
this is gonna be a tough task on the big ice.
And uh, someone one of the coaches, I believe it
was night Or was right behind me and he just said,
you know, f and finish it. And I was like,
please finish it. So when when when you know, when
I heard him yell first it was I couldn't get
over the boards fast enough. It was a great, great feeling.

Speaker 10 (04:58):
You guys did such a classy move at the end,
Uh with the Johnny goodrou jersey.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Was that something planned?

Speaker 10 (05:03):
And and you know it was a guy that's smaller
in stature but plays a big game. You know, what
did Johnny mean to you and what did that moment
mean to you as a whole.

Speaker 8 (05:14):
Yeah, I don't believe it was planned. I believe Zach
went and got it himself. And when he when he
brought it out, the captains we got around, we said,
let's take a picture with it with the trophy. Awesome,
And we went up there and I remember him telling
the guy who was representing the IHF that, you know,
we're not we're not taking a normal photo. We're gonna
have the jersey, and uh, you know, it was pretty cool,

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pretty special to be a part of that. It's just
Johnny was, you know, kind of embodied USA Hockey. I
think USA Hockey's really trying to change what the World Championships.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Means to a lot of players.

Speaker 8 (05:45):
It's, you know, used to be kind of a vacation
and you go over there and you play and whatever
happens happens. Now it's, you know, we want a lot
of guys, you know, our top end players to go
and try to win each year and and be a
powerhouse and and uh, you know in international hockey. So
he was one of the guys that would always go
when he wasn't in the playoffs. And for me personally,
I met him on my tour. I was fifteen years

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old and Jerry Yorke brought him out of their locker
room to introduced him to me, and it was like
seeing you know, my idol.

Speaker 12 (06:12):
It was it was unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (06:13):
He's one of the first guys at that size that
you know, undersize used to be five nine, five ten
and I'm five, you know, seven five eight, and that's
what he was. So to see somebody at that stature
dominate college hockey and then the NHL, it just gave
me so much motivation. And uh, you know, he was
a special, special player.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It is BIZ, nasty ladies and gentlemen. Paul Albert Bissonette,
It's great to see him.

Speaker 9 (06:33):
Man love the middle name and definitely loud, you know,
not a lot of not a lot of intelligent information
coming on my mouth, but definitely loud.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Well, it's a great point you make, Biz, because it's
a lot harder than people think when they ask you
to be candid, be outspoken, be authentic.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
These are all words that TV executives use, and.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yet if you truly are going to be as you said,
you're stravling that line all the time.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, when meeting everyone fired, this is the question.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
We don't know what's the I want to see. The
closest came meeting fired. But what was a comment that
you said that They're like, eh, biz, next time, maybe
refrained from.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
That, oh man.

Speaker 9 (07:04):
And there was a lot I called in a decent
amount in my first year, first year and a half
with T and T, and uh yeah, I was just
like okay, like sorry, like you know, like I don't
really know what to say, Like I'm just kind of
an idiot, and I'll just kind of say what I'm thinking.
So that's kind of how I was on the podcast
and still am obviously because barstool doesn't give a shit.
Uh So yeah, I just uh, I can't remember anything

(07:27):
in particular. I did obviously get some calls with the
Babcock stuff where they were like, hey, like what's going
on here? And I'm like, listen, I go. I've had
players reach out. I'm talking on behalf of the players.
I understand if you have to let me go, but
this is what I'm hearing, and I'm sticking to my guns,
and they road they stuck by me and I'm forever

(07:47):
grateful and uh, that was probably the most chaos that
we went through in like a week, week and a half.
Columbus should be thanking me. They got their guy. Now,
they got Dean Evanson. There they're they're a wagon. Now
they're scary to watch Man. They're a hell of a team. Yeah,
no more bab cut see you later. Yeah, that's the side.

(08:07):
What was that I want to ask you before? What
was that audition? Like, do you remember your audition for TNT. Yeah.
I went in and it was Liam and Ace and
we just they kind of just were throwing softballs and
you know, you just kind of do your thing and
you leave and you don't know. I thought it was
a joke when I got the email to go for
the audition, I thought it was we got a prankster.
Foley is one of Yan's and Wits buddies from Boston,

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so he's really good about pranking players. Like when Yans
was playing in Florida, he was texting x Flad acting
as the team chef and that he was going to
come over and cook this meal for like twelve of
the guys, like six players are excuse me, six of
the guys and their spouses, so everybody obviously was in

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on it other than x Flad, and he's calling and
canceling this whole like, you know, steak lobster dinner as
he's hosting it at his house and x Flad's freaking out.
So this prankster guy is notorious for messing with the players.
So when I got the email, I was I was like, Okay,
this is Foles for sure messing with me, and then

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obviously it ended up being true. So so yeah, I
don't know how I got into the full story, but
basically he's a prankster and it was the real deal,
and I went for the tryout and it all worked out.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Tusks up, Tyson Nash. Great to see you man, Thanks
so much for the time.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
It's funny sooni as I talked to enforcers and tough guys, right,
Jody Shelley's too grimston and off the ice, it couldn't
be nice write sweethearts, much like yourself, engaging, funny, chrumming
guy on the ice, classic instigator, great shit disturber.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
What's the most you ever pissed off an opponent?

Speaker 11 (09:43):
Oh my god, I'll never forget.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
We were in the playoffs against the San Jose Sharks,
and Tony Twist was retired at the time, and he
was back in Saint Louis and Kelly Chase came up
to me and Tony Twist's as wife was apparently playing
cards in the room and when they were in sam
or in Saint Louis the game before, and you know,

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I kind of embellished the whole story, and I'm like,
oh my god, Tony Twist's wife was in your guys'
hotel room playing cards, So I'll never forget I think
it was I think it was Owen Nolan. I said, hey,
I'm just telling you. I know you and Twist he
used to be good buddies, but he is going to
absolutely murder you and everyone that was in that hotel

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room with his ex wife.

Speaker 11 (10:33):
I go, I don't know what happened in that hotel room,
but I was. I know it was nothing good.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
And Tony Twist is going to lose his fucking mind
on you. And I mean, Tony Twist is one of
the toughest guys to ever play. Literally every face off
for the first twenty five minutes of the hockey game,
one of them came out there and was like, we
did nothing with her. We didn't touch her, we were
just playing cards. She's a friend of ours. I don't
know what you're talking about. What's going on?

Speaker 7 (10:57):
This is a joke.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
And literally after the game, the second the game ended,
I had about twenty text messages on my phone and
calls from Twister going what did you do? What did
you say? So I know they went on the other side.
They were on their phones going we didn't do anything.
This is a total joke, National stirn up Ship and
like literally they couldn't even focus on the hockey game

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that night.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
This is the same.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
We absolutely drummed them, but.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
We ended up losing the series, but sadly, but oh
my god, it was so it was so freaking funny.
But Kelly Chase just wound me up, set me out
there with all this material, and it didn't take much
to stir them up.

Speaker 10 (11:38):
What's the what's the best chirp you've heard thrown your way?

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (11:43):
Man, I always want, I got yeah.

Speaker 10 (11:46):
I always Brady called me a keith yandle wannabe and
I was I was in Arizona, I was dying.

Speaker 9 (11:56):
Good.

Speaker 11 (11:57):
Oh yeah, I mean I've heard them all right.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
I mean, I I have I have a nose that
kind of gives it away. It's like a big potato,
like his focus regard in the shower. But I remember
Jason Strudwick one time he goes, hey, I heard Larry
Kolow offered you a million dollars or a nose full
of nickels. I mean, it's pretty bad when your whole
team right on your bench is laughing at you and

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laughing with the other team.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
So it was, yeah, it was. It was a pretty
good one.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Ladies and gentlemen. Steve Leaevey Leaves is great to see him.

Speaker 12 (12:29):
Man, Hey, how you doing, guys. Good to be with you,
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
We talk about the sort of the the heyday that you.
I mean, you've been a part of so many great
eras of ESPN, but for me that this is Sports
Center ads through the years are just so incredible, so iconic,
and you, of course star in a great one with
a younger Alexandra Ovechkin where he kind of plays a

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Russian spy. So I can't speak to how well the
ad has aged over the years, but it's a classic.
I'm sure you get asked about it frequently. I'd love
to hear any stories about being on the with Ov
and Semon Varlamov of course, Yeah, make that ad.

Speaker 12 (13:09):
So that's been that's gotten controversial by the way, Yeah
because of what you mentioned, Yeah, what's going on in
the real world. And we did run it back a
few times recently, you know, after he went for the chase,
going for the chase and gets the goal. So the
two quick stories about that and man, were you on campus?

Speaker 11 (13:25):
Would you have been on campus that day?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Now one of the day I did see a match
in the one day. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (13:28):
So they wound up building the set on our basketball court.
It looks like it's a copy room right with the
copy machine and files and stuff like that. But because
of the goof of having to have him go through
the roof the ceiling there, they couldn't do it in
a real building. They had to set make a set
outside and rig the contraption there. And because of the

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contraption and building a set outside of the basketball court,
I was told it was the most expensive This is
Sports Center promo ever made because of all those things
and the other really cool thing and this not surprise anyone.
We had a stunt double for Ovi. We had a
real stunt, double full Uni pads, same height, weight with

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color hair at the time, all that stuff standing right there,
and OVI refused to let him in. Ob I do
my own stunts.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
He's Tom Cruise. He figured that out, you know that
kind of thing.

Speaker 12 (14:24):
So uh, those were the two really cool parts about
that commercial. And and people still come up randomly, like
I get a text from Neil Everett out of the
blue Ji Perferson and the only line is late night filings.
You know, like it because that's.

Speaker 9 (14:39):
What he says.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
He adds the s for some reason, you know, like
it's just it was.

Speaker 12 (14:43):
It was a classic.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Those are fun to be in.

Speaker 12 (14:45):
Guys anchors like myself, not like myself. Other anchors would
jump over themselves to get in the building when they
knew they were filming. Like guys would come back from
vacations early. I don't care there was their day off.
They don't care. They're coming to work because they wanted
to be in these things. It was so such a
big deal. And the last one I'll tell you about

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this the athletes did not get paid. Ladanian Tomlinson through
flew coast to coast on his own dime because he
wanted to be in one and that would be really
cool with the mailbox. You gotta talk about the story
about this one.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, I hit it.

Speaker 12 (15:23):
Yeah, that's a goof with Ladanian Tomlinson is we're in
the mail room and he wears the shaded shield the
visor in his helmet. Okay, So he's putting the mail
in all the wrong places and all the wrong slots.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
So I'm like, hey, lt you know what.

Speaker 12 (15:37):
Are you doing. That's not for me, that's not me,
that's not me, and that's oh he's sorry. And they
keeps putting it in the wrong thing. So that's how
it ends. But his PR person is right there, as
they often are, and the PR person's a young person,
I guess, and they don't really get the goof and
they're pleading with the director and the producer. He can
do one with his helmet off, okay, And everybody's like, well,

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then he's just an idiot.

Speaker 13 (16:02):
Why would he be putting the mayor The whole goof
is because it's the shaded shield right that he can't
see what if he has no helmet on, why would
he be putting it in the wrong Then he's just
an idiot. And so the producer to try to please
this PR person does.

Speaker 12 (16:20):
A whole other spot. You know, just at that second,
it's not funny. It never aired. I'll be surprised there
was even filming the camera at the time just to
sort of appease that PR flack at that moment. But
those who are blast to do and again, same deal,
I'm not funny. Like they gave us the words to say.

Speaker 10 (16:38):
He was my landlord when I had hives Brad Richardson,
ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 14 (16:44):
Thanks, I was going on intro jay, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 10 (16:47):
When you guys won that cup? What's her from that
kind of cup run? And the post you know, the
celebrations afterwards, what was your favorite like celebrity meat that
you got in like and favorite celebrity story from that.
You don't have to get into the details because leave
it for the birds, but like was your celebrity link.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Up like one quick one?

Speaker 14 (17:06):
Like I mean, we had a lot of people hanging
around like, which was really fun and it was cool
to have. Like it was cool because you know, they
come down and like they want to like say hi,
do you after and it made you feel good and
that everyone was caring about it. So much, but probably
the one it was kind of like a weird night.
We had a copy, We had a party and like
just a kind of a friends and family party, and
then we were going to this place called Beacher's Madhouse.
It's at the Roosevelt and really cool spot back in

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the day, and we're walking in. We had David Beckham
with us, and he was like, we're just shooting the ship,
walking in me and him, and he doesn't. They don't
let him in, No, I swear to God. So I'm like,
what the hell's going on? We walk in like just
like we're David Beckham, but he gets shut down. I
couldn't believe it, so that I had to get David
Beckham in the in the Beach's Madhouse.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's nice.

Speaker 14 (17:49):
So that was like, you know, feather in my cap.
I'm like, fucky, you know, I'm feeling pretty good tonight.
But it was it was kind of like that we
It was that was a funny one, but there were
so many great people. I'm actually staying at Roosevelt tonight.
So I'm a little reminiscent kicking in right now.

Speaker 10 (18:03):
I mean, so when we played you guys that year,
I'm i always waited out in the hallway before we
went on the ice before every period. So I'm out
there before we go out for the first period. So
I'm sitting there and I'm getting ready and i see
these two kids walk by me and they're like, hey,
what's up. They're wearing King's jerseys. They're high five and
I'm like, hey, kids, what's up. So there's nobody else
out there but me and the PR guy. Yeah, all
of a sudden, I see this the dad walk by it.

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It's David Beckham and he goes, hey, what's up, mate,
And I'm like, oh, what's up.

Speaker 15 (18:29):
Doing, Dave.

Speaker 10 (18:31):
He's like, hey, can And this is like a minute
before we go in the ice and the coaches are
about to walk out, and he's like, hey, can I
my kids get a picture with you? And I'm like uh,
And I'm looking at the PR guy and the PR
guys like kind of hands up, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, let's do quick, let's do it quick.

Speaker 10 (18:44):
So I was like sitting there, I'm like taking a
picture and I'm like, you don't even realize. That's what's
cool about the Kings is that like the celebs are
such fans and like these guys that are larger than
life characters like Beck who was an athlete, or these
die hard hockey fans because of you guys.

Speaker 14 (18:59):
Yeah, no, you're right, that's that's a funny story.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
But you would have got in trouble for that.

Speaker 11 (19:02):
I'm sure if they would stop, darn would have.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Saw that you would him be playing.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
He is currently enjoying a career season for the upstart
Blue Jackets. He's not only the conversation with the Norse Trophy,
but he's also the conversation for the Heart Trophy.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Zach Wrensky, Welcome to NHL and SCRIPTO.

Speaker 16 (19:16):
Great to see it, man, Yeah, thanks for having me on, guys,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
I wanted to ask a little bit, you know, going
back to the start of your career in Columbus and
you know, obviously I'm sure you've had to tell a
million Tortorella stories, but I just wanted to ask more
on the note of like, what's one thing that you
kind of learned from torts that you're like, not many
people know about him, that that's why he's had such
a long career as a coach in the NHL.

Speaker 16 (19:41):
Yeah, I mean, I think the thing with torts, and
it definitely gets mixed up in the media a little bit.
Is just how good of a person he is. I
don't think people understand that. Can you talk about a
family guy or a guy that wants you to be
around your your family like he's he's the one. He
gives you so many days off just to be home
with you know, your your wife and your kids and

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whoever there. And my first year in the league. Actually
this is not a sad story, but it kind of said.
But my first year in the league, we were I
think five days away from playing my first game at
home in Detroit at Joe Louis. My grandfather passed away,
and I told towards that and he's like, go home.
I go home and skate by yourself, Like we don't

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want to see you be around your family. So for
like five days he just gave him my year, didn't
didn't He called and checked in on me, but didn't
really care. He just trusted me, let me go home.

Speaker 17 (20:33):
I was skating alone.

Speaker 16 (20:34):
And then the first game at Joe Louis, he starts me,
you know opening and I haven't practiced with the team
at all, And I just think that goes a long
way right, Like he could have been he could have
been like, hey, once we land, you can go home
for a few hours or go home for the night.
But he was like, no, I'll get out of here,
like you don't need to be here. And that always
luck with me. My first year, I think I was
two or three months in a manhl career and that

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was a moment for me where I just had a
lot of respect for him and that always luck with me.
And I feel like people don't see that side of him.

Speaker 10 (21:02):
Yeah he doesn't.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
He doesn't get enough of it.

Speaker 10 (21:04):
And you know, everybody kind of tells the funny stories
but never like what he's kind of how he's impacted guys.
But you know, I wanted to, you know, finally touch
on I know we touched on Johnny a little bit,
and you know, I've interviewed Adam Fantilly and then I've
also interviewed man Giapane, and you know, we kind of
asked just about at the end of the interview, like hey, listen,

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you know, Johnny's gone but not forgotten, and we just
want to know more of like a lighthearted, like a
funny story that would give a little bit of insight
into Johnny and a cool memory that you have that
you've taken with you, you know, being around him a
little bit.

Speaker 16 (21:37):
Yeah, No, there's so many good stories. Only play with
him for two years, and I thought I've played with
him my whole career, from sitting across fromhim at the
card table on the plane calling everyone a.

Speaker 8 (21:48):
Donkey, and.

Speaker 16 (21:50):
You know what, Like my first year, he actually used
to drive me nuts because he would be the last
guy to show up to the rink and the first
guy to leave. And I was always like, like, why
is he doing this? And it was just because he
wanted to get home to his wife and kids. And
I think I've learned so much from that where now
like I don't go to the rink longer than I
have to be at the rink, yeah, And I feel

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like more people should kind of take advantage of that.
Like there was times I'd sit at the rink and
be like, oh, I'm a pro, I'm just sitting here.
I'm at the rink for four hours, but I'm not
getting anything done. Yeah, And I think what I've learned
the most from john is like, go to the rank
and joy it. Be there for an hour or two
hours and do your stuff and and get what you
need to get and then get out of there, get

(22:33):
home and be around the ones that you love. And yeah,
I've learned. I think that's what I've learned the most
from him in that short amount of time. And honestly,
I think it's a big reason why I'm having success
this year too, is I'm not just spending hours at
the rink for no reason and thinking about hockey all
the time. And so yeah, no, I mean, he's he's
awesome and we miss him, but yeah, he's gone, never forgotten.

(22:55):
I love sharing stories on him and talking with the
guys about him.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
That's such a cool story.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I love that. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
It works smarter, not harder, necessarily more efficiently, and obviously
family first.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
All right, it's certainly some great clips there.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
We're going to take a quick time out here and
we come back some fresh new content here. Mike Canuble,
what was a fantastic career being around so many great players.
We're talking the Red Wings in the late nineties. What
kind of impact those players had on him all the
way up until playing with Wayne Gretzky the New York Rangers.
Mike Knuble is up next to an NHL inscripted after
this our special guest today, a fourth round pick seventy

(23:37):
six over brawl by the Detroit Red Wings and the
nineteen ninety one NHL draft.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
He won the Stanley Cup with Detroit.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
We're going to collect tour and seventy eight goals and
five hundred and forty eight points in over one thousand games,
one thousand and sixty eight to be specific, Red Wings, Rangers, Bruins, Flyers, Capitals.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
It is Mike Knuble. Mike, great to see you, man.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Oh good, that's good to be here, guys, thanks for
having me today.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Obviously an amazing journey that you have. I want to
go to when you arrive in Detroit. You win the
Stanley Cup as a rookie and a team where your
coach is Scotti Bowman. Your teammates are Steve Agerman, Nick
litchtrom Cirgei Federalf Brendan Shanahan, Larry Murphy, Eagor, Larryana and
Slava Fatisa. How on earth did you handle all that
star power?

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yeah, that's like eight or nine Hall of Famers there, right,
And that's the difference between the teams are constructed now
and and how they wear back in the day. Could
hord players like that even better? My first game was Detroit,
Colorado when the goalies fought, you know, when Patrick Wah,
Mike Vernon, we had that big brawl, Darren McCarty, Claude Lemieux.
That was my first game. So I'm coming from Adarandack

(24:35):
about a year and a half in the American League,
maybe a year and two thirds in the American League,
and that's my first game. So h they had some
history from the year before Chris Draper was hit from
behind by Claude Lemieux, and then I don't know, for
some reason, they picked my night, my opening nights, to
really settle everything, and so that was my well, you
know they always say what's your welcome to the NHL moment.

(24:56):
I'm like, it smacked me in the face like first
first like ten minutes. So it was like, oh my god,
here we go. So it looked like an American League game,
you know, it looked like a typical American game at
that point. But you know, you didn't see that much
in the NHL anymore.

Speaker 10 (25:09):
Did you have any indication coming into the locker room
that that shit was about to pop off.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
You know, it was you know, I had you know,
I'm sure Ja, when you played your first game, you
got your own issues. You're like, you know, you're you're
like sitting there like what, I can't believe this is
happening right now, you know, And so I felt that
I think you felt some electricity in the building. And
then there were like a couple of fights quick, and
then I was like, okay, because they played the week
before and it was pretty quiet, and I think there

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was still another game on the schedule, maybe in Colorado,
and then and then uh, Colorado went up like three
to one or four to one, and then of all
the guys, Peter Forsberg and Igor Larryanoff set it all
off in the second period and they got into it,
and then that's when the goalies came flying out and
it just went you know, and then the irony is
Darren McCarty dragged Claude Lemieux around the ice, hit his

(25:58):
head off the boards like really and got like a
four minute rough four minute double minor roughing and then
scored the overtime winner to win the game. To boot
like we won five four or six five or something.
So it was it was I think not only in
Detroit history, but I think in the NHL history. It's
a game a lot of people know. So I'm very
proud to have been a part of it. A small part,
got my eight minutes or whatever, but it was a
small part of it.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Well, it's amazing if all those veterans that you guys mentioned,
you know, who is the one that you felt Mike Again,
it's hard when you're coming, as you said, you're focused
on yourself.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
They've got thrown issues. But was there any of those
guys you spelled specifically was healthy to you as far
as mentoring you was a memorable teammate?

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Well, I think you know, you know, Steve Eisman was
a great captain at that time and for that team,
you know, having Scotty as a coach, you know, you're
just trying not to I mean, he didn't talk to
you regardless, it didn't matter, but he didn't want him
to talk to you in a negative way. Probably if
he was gonna say something's gonna be negative. But you know,
so is Steve and Brennan. And then you know you
had Slava fatisof and Igor Larryanov. So those were guys

(26:55):
that you know, we're we're playing in the primes and
really good players, you know. Then he had guys like
Joey Kosher, He had some secondary second tier guys, Joey Koser,
Kurt Maltby, you know, dra Broscod We were kind of
all the same age, Darren McCarty and so we were
about the same age. And so they were a little
head of me in the development path there and their

(27:16):
spots in Detroit, which was fine. So I think I
was just learning and watching and trying to see how
to stick there. You know, it's one thing to get there,
and then it's like, I want the career that those
guys were having, and that was it. So I mean,
I think all you had to do was look around
the room and there was tons of influences everywhere. You
could pick out guys at various levels of very talent levels,

(27:36):
various talent levels, and then just pick any of them
and look at them. Things were going the right way
with that group.

Speaker 10 (27:42):
What was one of the greatest pieces of advice you
got from one of those veterans early on in your
career that kind of stuck with you.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Well, I don't know, I think I don't know if
it was advice, it's funny of all things. Bob Rowse,
while we were doing autographs signing, he said, you signed
your tax records with that autograph. He said, you got
to have two different autographs. That's like one thing. That
that would be like one statement, Bob Rouse, of all guys,
he said, I want to sign different autographs versus your
official documents. And I carried that with me to this day,

(28:10):
and I try and tell my kids that. I'm like, hey,
you know what I learned when I was a kid,
you know, when I was a young player. I'm like,
you have an autograph, and then you've got to have
like a real thing, like when you buy a house
or something. It's got to be different. And now these
days it's really easy to see these autographs. You could,
I mean you can scan them and copy them. His
harder back in the day, but that would be one
stupid I don't know why that sticks.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
They get stupid smart.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, yeah, So it was non hockey. It was kind
of life related more than hockey. But Bob Rowse, of
all guys, isn't that funny? I don't know. That just
popped in my head. I wasn't even ready I was
kind of like.

Speaker 10 (28:41):
Well, yeah, that's so funny that that's the thing that
you go to. But I mean, I guess going back
to the you know, winning a Stanley Cup is a
rookie and being on that run. Just just talk about
that team, and you know what what separated you guys
from those other teams? You know you mentioned Scotty and
was it the X and o's or was it just

(29:03):
that you guys were just a tighter team than most.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Yeah, I mean I think first and foremost. I mean, look,
you go up down that roster. So I got there
late ninety seven. I didn't get credit for any of that.
I didn't play at all. You know, they beat Philly,
I didn't get my name on the Cup. I made
the team. The next year, I got my name on
the Cup. So it was kind of going from from
ninety seven. You know, it was just the guys on
the team. That thing was on autopilot, you know, and
it's like once you know, I'm sure Paul Maurice could

(29:29):
say the same thing. He said once. I once my
team is rolling in the right direction and everybody in
the organization knows it, it's like get out of the way,
you know, you don't want to, you know, like Scotty
would tweak things, you know, and he'd poke a guy
here and there, and he'd do something, you know, just
to kind of keep the thing on the tracks. But
it was barreling down the tracks on its own. And

(29:49):
it was a very player led right, and so you
go through that roster, it's just so veteran led tons
of experience, NHL experience, international experience. I mean, the guys
had it all, you know, and then you know then
like Mike Vernon leaves for free agency after ninety seven,
Chris Osgood steps in and then he wins it ninety eight,
you know, and so then there was layers two of
guys that would come in and you know, I think

(30:12):
Brett Gil Chris came in, a guy or two, you know,
strikeing free agency, nice contracts. They leave after ninety seven
and they get a couple of guys, you know, for
the next year. And we had that tragedy with Vladimir
constantinof after the ninety seven thaying that was a big
inspiration kind of playing for him the whole year. So

(30:33):
it was just like one of those you know, when
the group's special, the group is special, and it's uh,
you just know it. You look around the room and
be like, man, there's some great players in here, and
it's up to us, you know, up to us to
mess this thing up or or go out and claim it.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Well, speaking of special, Mike, it's amazing your career.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You know, over a thousand games, play on all those
different teams, and we're an excellent player and we're around greatness.
As we're discussing, this is an amazing stat You're the
only player in hockey history to assist on goals by
Wayne Gretzkin Alexandrovechkin.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
First off, just just chew on that for a second.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Secondly, how was it personally seeing ob break Gretzky's gold record?

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Yeah, that was you know, it's kind of that that
little fact he brought up. We kind of started talking
last time, my brother and I just having beers and
just kind of you know, shooting the shit or whatever
and talking about stuff, and then I kind of took it.
I was in Washington for an alumni, huge alumni national
alumni event, you know, celebrating their fiftieth year, and talking
to a guy in the media and he said, you

(31:28):
know what, I'm gonna, I gotta And then he called
me like a month later and he's like, I did
some digging, like you were right, you're the only guy
that played with those two, you know, and then you
bring the point thing, you know. So it was a
lot of fun. Like when Obi was chasing this thing down,
I thought it would be Christmas maybe this year, twenty
twenty five, you know. But he, you know, he got
to get the guy. Oh my god. I mean he
went out and got he dent back into the record.

(31:49):
He attacked it right like he like was like a
shark and he hunted that record down. So it was
it was a lot of fun. And then it was
you know that it started to come out. I got
a little traction with that little factoid, you know. And
so I mean, I mean I was on Sports Center
for you know, I was I was on the main
sports like the real Sports Center asking me about this.
So I had my little five minutes of coketail Ov

(32:12):
coattail fame there maybe the early part of April. So yeah,
it was fun to watch him, and it was you know,
and just the way he was attacking it, like he
was not backing into it, like he was going for it,
and that was really fun to watch him just going
to get it and his team. The guy's really rallying
around and they I thought they did a really there's
some high pressure. You know, that's the strong kid, the center,

(32:33):
like you know, that's that's a lot of pressure to
be like, you know, being the main pivot on a
guy who's chasing an immortal record, right, And so I
give those guys a lot of credit really pushing him
over the top too.

Speaker 10 (32:47):
Well, especially a guy that needs it in his favorite spot,
you know the majority of the time, like you got
to put it there, like and you know he had
backstrom me. It's so many guys making good past him.
But what if you know, I know you weren't in
the room with them on the chase, but you know
you played with ov and you know you've probably heard
about his development as a leader and stuff like that,
And how was it playing with him, you know when

(33:10):
you did, and what was some of the things that
you noticed about him that were just that we're just
the separators.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Well, he you know when I played with him, he
was he had all the international stuff, he had all
the individual stuff in the NHL, and you know his
rocketb Shard, and he was just that, you know, like
you know, really like coming into his own as a player.
And then I was you're getting kind of worried. The
year I was there, I think my first year there,
we won the President's Trophy. George mcfeed loaded us up.
We got like Jason Arnot, Scott Walker, Roman Hammer Lick,

(33:40):
we got some guys Scott Walker, some guys at the
dead deadline. So we had we had veteran, we had toughness,
we had young star guys moving into their becoming stars.
We had everything, and we and we and we messed
it up. And but so you're getting to this thing
you're like, well, I hope Ovi's gonna win one one day,
because you don't want to be that guy who's going
to set all these records and then not have one.

(34:02):
I think I think him him winning the Stanley Cup,
you know, really set that was a huge box to check,
I think personally, and then you know, everything else was
kind of gravy after that. And then he's stayed on
a heater, I mean a couple of year long heater
to get close to within a shot of Wayne's record,
and then I think he really got hungry to go
after it. So I got a real kick out of

(34:23):
you know, when I was there, it was like him
backs from Green like they were young, and they were
the young guns, and they were out having a good time,
and you know, you're like, you guys are good hockey
players and stuff, and you're great, you're going to be
great hockey players, and you're young and we've all been,
not necessarily me, but some of these younger guys, like,
you know, they're stars in the league, and they they
have a great time on the ice, they have a
great time off the ice, and it was really good

(34:44):
to see. It was really cool to see Ov like
become the family guy, you know, and even I brought
up that alumni thing we went to last fall, and
Nick Baxstrom's a father and they got kids around, so
it's pretty cool to see the evolution. And then OV
was really really enjoying celebrating with his kids and his family.
I thought that was a really cool evolution of him
being and like the consummate pro and you know, like

(35:07):
a hockey dad and all that and enjoying it with
his family. I thought I was very happy.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
For him in that respect, no question about it. He
breaks Gretzky's record from Detroit. You went to the Rangers.
That's where you played with Gretzky as a teammate. Kenny
Albert was telling the story, you know, when Gretz is
around it because he's a great storyteller. He enjoys telling stories.
Everyone enjoys been ring wing Gretzky. The stories are legion.
Anything specific you can tell us about playing with grets.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah, I mean it was so sometimes you know, you know,
where you'd be on a bus, there's a little more
busting around these coats. He might bust to Jersey, you know,
the bus to the island, so you're on the bus
a little bit, you know, when you're playing with the Rangers,
even come back from an airport or something. And then
he would just hold court in the back, you know.
And as the teaking in, you know, we had John
Muckler who was coaching there, McTavish, Hodey teaking in, Adam Graves,

(35:54):
gretz booka boom, So there was this huge like Edmonton
connection right from back in the mid eighties. And then
you know, just Gretz would hold he would sit in
the back and Kevin Stevens would get him going, you know,
and then guys like that, he just they just tell stories.
Dave Simenko and you know, he thought he was a
really good player, and it's you know, he was this
big policeman for a long time. And talk about Marty McSorley, uh,

(36:15):
you know, and just the guys that he played with there,
and he just just how much he revered those guys
and how happy you know those times were in Edmonton,
and how much you know they were young guys and
and and and just the name dropping and you just
so as a young player, you know, you're pushed up
towards the front of the bus, but you know you're
constantly like turning backwards trying to you know, if there's
an empty seat, maybe a roll or two behind. He

(36:37):
kind of say, hey, can I sit right here? He's talking.
I'm gonna listen to him talk a little bit. So,
you know, he just give him a couple of beers.
And it's funny he was endorsing one type of beer
but really didn't like it, so he'd always have the
other kind of beer there. Then he'd be drinking those.
So I'm not gonna tell names or anything, because I
do remember which ones it was, but but he was like,
you know, he kind of uh, you know, it was
just great man. It was like storytime regrets on the

(36:58):
back of the bus. It was just priceless. And he
could speak freely. You know, he knew his role in
the public and how he had to talk. But that
need to speak a lot freer, you know, amongst the guys,
which is great.

Speaker 10 (37:07):
Talk about the kids. And I know you got some
athletes in the family.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Now, yeah, our oldest Cam won a national title there
at Western Michigan, did a five year thing. We worked
on his masters. Was a real plugger, like not a
ton of love, like not a big time score in
on the lineup, and then chose to go back for
a fifth year to work on his NBA start as masters,
and then was named an assistant captain and really anchored

(37:32):
their fourth line. Their line scored I think the game winner.
I think they got the game winner. He assisted on
the game winning goal. And in Saint Louis they BEATBU
in the final, and they had a real nice team
the second half of the year. They would just you know,
you know what it is, it's everybody's doing their job.
You getting great goaltending scorers are scoring. Defenders are defending.
Sometimes at a one game series though, you can get

(37:53):
that weird bounce and something hits a skate and screws you.
You know, you play best of five. Usually the best
team will kind of come to the top a little bit.
But but they were. They got through and need a
great He's sorting through some pro options, probably be East
Coast level or something like that, and he's doing that.
I have a daughter. We just moved. He could be
a second grade teacher in Chicago, which is a lot
of fun. We just moved to Chicago. And then our

(38:13):
younger guy, Cole is at Notre Dame. He's a Flyers
draft pick. Just got back from development camp and had
a nice second year of there. He's about to enter
his third year and really enjoys it down there. And that's,
you know, like two hours from us. So it's been
a lot. Every weekend, I'm pretty much on a college campus,
which is a lot of fun too.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
You know.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
See it all takes you back to the day.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, is that does it?

Speaker 10 (38:38):
Did you ever have any thoughts, you know, being a
Michigan of having the kids be a legacy or it
was kind of you wanted them to kind of choose
their own route.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yeah, no, it's you know, and things work, things work
out the way it was like Cam was originally in
Michigan State and then you know, then you know, sometimes
things don't work out as well as they should. And
he went to then exchanged to Western uh and then
Cole you know, he was in a different spot, like
he was a big time score in the usah all,
you know, and National Junior Player of the Year. So

(39:07):
I had too on two different paths and he was
lucky he had. He had basically could have gone anywhere
that he wanted to go. And so he's a smart kid.
I think sometimes at Notre to Aim it's like no
joke and he probably you know, he's probably shaking his
head like this is no joke here. You know, there's
no place to hide. But we're very very proud of

(39:27):
that and that he wanted to go there and and
that experience there. So that's something that'll stay with him forever.
So it's you know, any play and you know, he
got to play for Jeff Jackson there who stepped down.
Now brock Sheen, his younger guy is going to take over.
So it's kind of a new generation, so he gets
to lift through that too, or a new era. So
I know he's really looking forward to that.

Speaker 10 (39:49):
Talk about your days at Michigan and do you get
a favorite Red Bearnson story.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Well, there's a lot of them. Red Red was like,
you know, he was like a pro coach. He'd come
from Saint Louis. He took over a floundering program in
the late eighties where they were kind of a joke
on campus and kind of straighten them out. So by
the time we got there in the early nineties, he
had the ship going in the right direction. A ton
of guys end up playing the NHL. Coming through. There

(40:16):
are a couple of classes in front of me, to
the couple classes behind me. Brendan Morrison won a heisman
or I mean a heisman Hobe Baker. There they won
a national championship after I left. I mean Red Red
just the story, I mean, he's just the he's so
he was so stoic, you know, and so like a
guy you didn't want to let down, you know, the

(40:37):
stories wise, I mean, just the way he talked to
players and just telling an older guy if I could
trade you, you know, like he's like if I could
trade you. I trade you, right, you know, fucking now
and stuff like that. So and I and he met
it with love. He's like, I love you, but I
wish I could trade you. But you know what I mean.
Like in college, they had to. You know, you knew
the kids couldn't go anywhere. You're stuck with each other.

(40:59):
You're stuck with each other back in the day. So
if you didn't like a guy, you had no choice
but to either play him, said him, or to all
of them. And so you know, now it's easy for
everybody to leave and do that. But I'm sure Red
would you know, some of these coaches who are used
to it a certain way probably don't love this nil
stuff and probably don't love the fact that the you

(41:20):
know that as soon as it gets hard a player,
a player can leave, you know, and and so it's, uh,
I'm sure he wouldn't be thrilled like coaching. Uh, you know,
with all this nil and basically everybody's on restricted free
agent every year.

Speaker 10 (41:35):
What what do you make of the HL you know,
the the new rule where you know, kids can kind
of bounce in between and they don't lose eligibility. Do
you find that you think that's gonna be a positive
thing or or you know, how do you foresee that
kind of moving forward.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
I think it's gonna be really interesting. I think it's
gonna be a couple of years before everybody figures out
how many of these guys, how many guys you can
take if guys are ready. I know a lot of
guys I played with in major junior that kind of
quit school in tenth grade. There might be a few
kids now who like kind of a man, I really
screwed off in high school and now it's gonna I

(42:10):
really love to go to college, but it's kind of
biting me in the ass. And certain schools have are
still super high like acceptance terms, you know, and they
can cut some corners to get you in, but at
the end of the day, you've got to be eligible.
I think what Penn State pulled off yesterday or the
other day, you getting adding the shafer kid, you know
with the nil and getting them to come to college

(42:31):
route like Macklin Celebrini. So now you have the high
high you're not getting like mid to early first rounders.
You're getting the top picks for going junior to come there.
And so the CHL has got to be like, this
isn't you know, this isn't great either. And I know
some higher picks who haven't signed NHL deals are saying, well,
do I go back? Do I have a chance to

(42:52):
make the NHL. If I have a chance to make
the NHL roster, do I sign an entry level deal?
Or if I'm close, do I just do a year
college and then go for it the next year?

Speaker 7 (43:02):
You know?

Speaker 5 (43:02):
And so I think it adds It adds a lot
of questions in there. And then you know, if a
kid comes out of the college route as an eighteen
year old, and then do you send them if you
are they American League eligible? Now they don't have to
go back to junior because they're going out of college.
If they want to sign, say Christmas or something. There's
so many variables still, and then it's it's crazy, but

(43:24):
I think it'd take a couple years to really shake out.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I didn't want to ask you with the capitals. You
had dental surgery on camera part of HBO's Oh yeah,
what was that experience?

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Like, well, I think it started in Atlanta. We're playing
down in Atlanta and I'm standing next to the left
post or something. I'm on the ice. Eric Fair, one
of the younger guy, you know, he's a first round er,
takes like a bad angle shot, like no chance of
going in, and it's just like I'm standing there and
it hits me in the chin, you know, and it
kind of knocks on my teeth, and I'm like, ah,
you know, I was like son of a you know, like,

(43:54):
I'm like, you have no chance that shot. That shot
has no chance going in. You got to shoot it
head high, you know, and it hits me right in
the face. So anyway, they bracking me together in Atlanta.
I remember the doctor went to Mesi and I went
to Michigan. So I got my mouth open. He's bracketing
me up talking about Michigan. I'm like, uh huh, uh huh,
you know. But so yeah, so anyway, they you know,
I go back and they put a plate in down here,

(44:15):
they cut down, they put a plate in, and then
I was all wired together. I think maybe that clip
I was going to get him off or something, or
they were looking at him or going to get these
brackets off. And yeah, I mean it's good filler for
the show. It's kind of interesting obviously, shows what the
players go through a little bit and and you know,
nobody likes being the dentist chair anyway, not even for
a cavity. But then he get all these brackets taken

(44:36):
off and see see if your chin's broken or not anymore.
It was, uh, it was good filler and and uh yeah,
the show was a lot of fun. I think it
was a really good time. I think like we stunk,
We're at the bottom, and then like we were going
like this and then Pittsburgh was already on top and
coming then we met in the middle. It was it
was it was a really good show. I'd have to
watch it again. But Bruce got famous for his f bumps,

(44:58):
you know, you know all the one which, yeah, people
ask about it. I'm going he wasn't even mad. He
was just using it like very. He's just like, come on,
like just very guy. You always just using you know,
the fuck is very you know, And I said, we
all use it like that, so it's it's it wasn't
even that mad. He was just kind of encouraging us.
It wasn't that bad.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Exactly, but in the positive way. Yeah, last one for me.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Joe Thornton, what kind of team it was? He like
relationship there in Boston.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Yeah, Joe, Joe always hold dear to me. Because I
got to Boston, I was kind of a third line plugger.
He was playing with Glenn Murray and Sergey Sampson Off.
Sergey Samson off ended up breaking his wrist or something.
They auditioned everybody every forward and they finally got to
me and I ended up clicking with those two, and
Joe and Glad changed my career. So Joe Thornton has

(45:45):
a spot in my heart for till the day till
the day I die. He and Glenn because they gave
me about ten more years in the league. So happy
that he got elected to the Hall of Fame. It
certainly deserved. So Joe was really coming to his own.
I think he had his first one hundred point year
maybe when I was there and he was you could
tell he was gonna be a star, uh for the
next fifteen years and h his his Uh, Jayson, I'm

(46:09):
sure you know Joe never has a bad day. I
don't know if he's ever had a bad day in
his life.

Speaker 15 (46:13):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
Even you could have lost ten in a row. Walk
in the rink. What's up byce, Hey, how are we doing,
you know, and God bless him for that. I mean,
he's just a fantastic human and I respect like he's
just you know, just a guy's guy, a great teammate
and uh, I mean anybody who's met on me. I mean,
he's just an engaging he's always smiled, always happy, like
you said, never had a bad never a bad day, Joe.

(46:35):
You know, no bad day, Joe. That's I mean, it's
it's great, he's uh, it's it's more of us should
have his attitude for sure.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, enviable way to live, no question.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
But Mike Nibble a terrific career in the NHL over
a thousand games.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Obviously, stories for days is Stanley Cup champion, Mike. This
was awesome, man. I can't thank you enough.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Well, thank you, guys. I appreciate it, and uh, anytime
you want to have you back, I'd love to chit
chat again.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
All right, So, lots of great clips you've had here today,
And honestly, we have hockey players and of course these
guys are fantastic, whether it's titles, trafole or whomever talking
about their career as it's going on right now. But
I think it's also pretty entertaining as we have the
non hockey people. And Michael Rosenbaum, friend of Jason Demurs,
is absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
He's an avid hockey fan.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
I need a great story about a celebrity game and
Al Michaels showing a different side of himself.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Do you believe in miracles?

Speaker 8 (47:30):
Why?

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I believe in a very profane Al Michaels. Take a listen.

Speaker 7 (47:33):
I love hockey.

Speaker 10 (47:34):
I just got to play in a charity game.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
For LAFT charity Hockey event Crypto dot com. How incredible
was that, Mike?

Speaker 18 (47:41):
That was I mean, doing it for a good cause
was just incredible. But then you know my line is
MSA is centering us, THEO Fleury is on my left wing.
And it was just and it was packed and I
felt when I went out there, I just said, don't
fall down, man, don't fall down and looks getting asshole

(48:01):
in front of all your friends and all these people
who go, oh oh yeah, you said you played hockey.
And the first shift man THEO to mess to me
one time we're in and I was like, that's it,
I can go home now.

Speaker 7 (48:16):
I just it was it was awesome.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
It was awesome, how great?

Speaker 10 (48:20):
How like you know, you play with those guys and
I always I always try to tell people like you know,
Messy and Flurry and you think like, oh, yeah, they
might take it easy, and you just see them. The
compete level and the level of edge that these guys have,
it's just so incredible to see live in person and
even play with them.

Speaker 7 (48:37):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 18 (48:38):
It was unbelievable.

Speaker 9 (48:39):
You know.

Speaker 18 (48:39):
It's funny because you know, mess was like, oh, I
haven't played forever, and he gets on there and he's
just like, hey, make sure you're in the slot, make
you know, and he's like he's he's having fun. But
at the same time, he's like, you know, I don't
I don't want to come out here and look like idiots.
Let's let's go out there and score some goals. And
it was a blast. It was I mean, you know,
to be on a airing on TV and scoring a

(49:00):
goal as an actor, you know, like guy who always
wanted to play hockey and these guys like you.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
It was it was just my moment to like just
be like all.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
Right, hey, you know, I got I got a little game.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
I got a little no I did a little more
to get in the game like this. You gotta have
more than just a little bit of a game. Who was
your favorite person to me at the event, Dave de Vito,
Vince Vaughn.

Speaker 18 (49:21):
You know, I was more star struck by al Michaels.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yes, do you believe in miracles?

Speaker 18 (49:27):
Al Michaels was our coach and he got in the
in that room, it was just like he was.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
He was like Herb Brooks.

Speaker 18 (49:34):
He was given, he was, he was channeling Herb Brooks
and he was like, get the fuck out there, and
you know, just Amy he.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
Was throwing f bombs and no he wasn't.

Speaker 18 (49:44):
He was. I got it on video.

Speaker 8 (49:53):
I have it.

Speaker 18 (49:54):
I'll have to look, but I I have him saying
that like I was. I was surprised the cameras are
on him. I'm like, well, they're not gonna air this,
but this is. And Danny DeVito and al Michaels sat
right from my, uh where I was sitting in the
locker room, and I just shot the shit with them
for like forty five minutes. They were just awesome. Me
and Danny DeVito were stretching. Who showed me the right

(50:15):
way to stretch? I'm like, come on, you.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Stretch all those jersey Mike commercials, Jordan Martin hook the
Carolina Hurricanes joining us right now, and I'm gonna let
Jad take over the second here, but Jordan joining us
along with his lovely son Chase, which is a classic
move here just bring the sun on. So now we
definitely can't ask anything hard hitting, nothing incriminating.

Speaker 10 (50:35):
I mean, one guy that you probably all want to
win for is not only Stallzy, but you know Brent Burns,
who's been around for so long, and I mean a
lot of people have heard stories about him and I
haven't been played with him in a while, but you know,
I have my stories of him of like, you know,
him getting bit by a cheetah and then getting a
tattoo of it, But like, has anything happened just in

(50:56):
terms of like his preparation and how wild he is
because he does some some stuff that's just so zany
and out there. And anything you've seen or that he's
added that I haven't seen when I played with.

Speaker 17 (51:07):
Him, well, I don't know if he was doing the
like was he doing the coffee you were with him? No,
He's got like his blender that he blends his coffee
and brings all his coffee and his beans and all that,
like that's in one of his He's got like six
suitcases for a one game trip. Like he takes care
of himself obviously to be able to play this long

(51:30):
you got, you got to take care of yourself. But
he's got every machine known to man on him at
all times. And yeah, he's he's each thirty five ounces
of fake usually the night before a game. And yeah,
he's he's one of a kind. And like you said,
that's probably the number one guy that what we want

(51:51):
to win for and he's been around for so long
and it's never won one. So yeah, he's he's the cheatah.
Story is incredible though, and I love that you were
on his team when that happened.

Speaker 10 (52:04):
Oh yeah, he went to a zoo to go get
like a private tour. I can't remember where what zoo
And then he went into the cheat exhibit and they said, hey,
just you know, be careful, you know, don't you know,
get too ornery around the cheetah, And he did and
moved a little too quick, and the cheetah took a
piece out of him, right out of his ribs. And

(52:24):
he came into the ring the next day with tell
happy he's I got a bit by a cheetah. He's like,
it's actually pretty bad ass. I'm gonna get a tattoo.
But he's got a tattoo in his ribs of it.
And it's like, that's just the stuff he did. I mean,
he had his own owlery when he was in Minnesota
and all sorts of things like that. But you know,
switching gears a bit, and you guys are coming down
that stretch for coming into Four Nations and then the

(52:47):
break and everything, and we talk about guys. We talked
about a last episode of Guys going on Break where
they go and obviously we had some great times. And
I told you I was bringing this story of up
of us going to Cabbo for probably one of the
most legendary trips that was highlighted by a picture with
you and Kyle Busch that I wish I still had.

(53:08):
But we almost got a restraining order on us by
Kyle Busch because we were annoying him.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
It was on me, it.

Speaker 10 (53:17):
Was but listen, we're all in it together.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
We're we're you know, we're we're.

Speaker 17 (53:21):
Oh, you guys are hagging me on too. That was
the worst part. We had a few Tequilas on the
golf course and then came back and I'm not a
huge NASCAR fan, but a fairly big NASCAR fan, and
I was like, oh, I recognize that guy, and then
I put one and two together and it was Kyle Busch.
So then I go over and tried to speak out

(53:42):
my ass that I knew everything about NASCAR and.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Just wouldn't let him go.

Speaker 17 (53:47):
He's there with his wife and his kids, and he
just wanted to have a good time with his family
and we're belligerently bullying him about NASCAR and.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
Maybe body part of it.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Well, are you a pro athlete?

Speaker 17 (54:02):
Our NASCAR drivers athletes?

Speaker 5 (54:04):
So I better be careful.

Speaker 17 (54:05):
I'm I'm supposed to go to a race and one
of the guys is hooking me up, so I'm very
be careful.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Saying that he was.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
The pride of Porcupine playing Saskatchwan Kelly Chase Chaser.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
It is great to see how are my friend.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
I'm doing great. I'm doing great.

Speaker 19 (54:19):
You know the amount of times you guys changed this
podcast and everything I thought I was going on with
two Hall of Famers, you guys were doing I'm like,
who are these guys anyway.

Speaker 10 (54:29):
You you I read a story about you and Brett
Hall stealing Bob Berry's car. Oh yeah, his Jaguar.

Speaker 19 (54:37):
Yeah yeah, we uh well he we went to the
game one night and I came to the game with Shanahan.
I lived with Brendan and HALLI asked me for going
out after and or you know, we're going to ride together.

Speaker 7 (54:50):
I said sure.

Speaker 19 (54:51):
So I went up to the offices where he cut
out of the rink all the time. He went in
a different exit out of the rink, and he said,
where'd you park? And I said, I have a car.
What do you mean a car? I said, I'm in
a car, he said, so he said I'll be right back.
So he comes back and he's got the keys to
a car. We go out to the parking lot and

(55:14):
he goes, come on, let's go, and he jumps in
Bob Berry's Jay. So I get in the jag and
him and Bob were kind of close. So, I mean,
I don't know. I mean, I don't think he's stealing
the thing. I just figure, you know, he's just talk
to Bob and whatever the deal they made. He's got
a car. So I get in the car. We go
down down to the landing and.

Speaker 7 (55:36):
Mixing.

Speaker 12 (55:36):
You know.

Speaker 19 (55:37):
It's you know, two am, and we're not done. So
we go to the east Side. We're going to go
to Pops. It's twenty four hours joint. So we get
over the Pops and it's like it's the lowest form
of life. It's it's basically it's everybody that shouldn't be
out that is still out.

Speaker 7 (55:51):
Like it's just it's just in place that you just
shake your head. You're like, what the hell.

Speaker 19 (55:56):
And it's a mixture of guys in suits to people
living on the street in this place, you know. And
it's now it's like four point thirty in the morning,
and I'm like, dude, we got to go, Like, we
got to get out of here.

Speaker 7 (56:08):
We got practice in the morning. So he throws me
the keys.

Speaker 19 (56:13):
I get out in the parking lot and I'm having
trouble with the lock and I'm jiggling it around and
the key snaps in the door lock.

Speaker 7 (56:20):
Now we got Bob Barry's Jaguar.

Speaker 19 (56:22):
It isn't like we you know, we got some rental
car that we could just leave over in East Saint Louis.

Speaker 7 (56:28):
Like, there's no way you leave the jag over there
and it's not on blocks.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
When we get back, we go we.

Speaker 19 (56:35):
Go to the security and we finally convinced some guy
at security that he needs to let us in and
and and get over with the door locks and he
needs to make this key. So the guy doesn't believe
it's Bread Hall. Fine, you know, no cell phone, so
we're calling from the desk in the security office at Pops,
which is again these guys are some rugged customers, right yea.

(56:57):
Polly's then holding court out in the parking lot. He's
got a burning barrel going burning whatever is in the
burning barrel, and he's got cases of beer and he's
telling stories and these people are sitting there like they're
having storytime with Brett Hall. The sun's starting to come up.
This guy's making keys. I'm like, this is a disaster.
And he promises that he's gonna get everybody at breakfast

(57:20):
at eat Right, which is just across the river into
Saint Louis, into Missouri, and it's his famous place. It's
just a little it's about the size of my hospital room.
But he's gonna buy everyone breakfast. So I'm like, just
shut up already, and he's like, who cares, don't worry.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
About it, you know.

Speaker 19 (57:39):
So pretty soon they got the door lock unlocked. They
get the door the key made. We get into Bob's car.
We're driving across pull in. I'm like, Holly, we're not
stopping it, eat right. He goes, of course we are.
So we pull in and all of these people, I mean,
guys that are bartender, security, lawyers, that have had a

(58:00):
big night, strippers, you name it. Every form of life
is at the eat right, okay, And it is just
like people are walking. I'm like Jesus, and he's just like,
whatever they want, and he just Harter. This guy's the
shorter chef, cooking way, cooking away, cooking away. Everybody's getting fed.
Next thing, you know, Holly's inviting him to practice. I'm like, Holley,

(58:23):
that's inviding everybody to the rink to practice. So we
practice up Brent with ice rink and we come in
and we're there before everybody, and I just want to
get in and get out of my suit because it's
the suit I wore the night before and I don't
want the coaches to see me. And Holly just walks
in could care less walks right in the coach's office

(58:43):
and throws the keys on Bob Barry's desk, and Bob
Barry goes batshit crazy. He's reported his car stolen. He's
going nuts. I can hear him yelling. All I want
to do is get out of my fucking suit and
get into my underwear. Okay, just not have him see
me in but in this suit. And he comes around
the corner and he sees me just getting out of

(59:04):
my dress pants.

Speaker 7 (59:06):
He looks and goes you.

Speaker 19 (59:08):
You, of all fucking guys, you're not good enough to
hang around with him.

Speaker 7 (59:12):
I'll fucking send you to the miners. I don't know
who you think you are.

Speaker 19 (59:16):
And he starts yelling at me, and Holly's like, relax,
and you know he can't.

Speaker 7 (59:20):
He could care less. He's got eighty six goals he
could carry.

Speaker 19 (59:25):
At that point shit from the coach. He hasn't even
given Brett shit. He's reported the car stolen. But the
worst part about the whole thing was we went out
on the ice and all of these people are around
the glass waiting for Holly Stick like they're banging on
the glass, Hey Chase, you know, great breakfast, And they're
just like security wearing the Orange Pops security jackets and

(59:50):
strippers and and like every single like from Pops, like
just everything. And Garth Butcher was the captain and he
just skated out on the ice and he looked around.
He watched this throw up five minut and he comes over.
He goes, what the fuck did you guys do last night?
I said, Butcher, you wouldn't believe it if I told you,

(01:00:11):
And Holly could care less. He couldn't care that I
was getting it. I got into it. I got all
of the shit for it. But Holly could care less.
He was just like, man, that was fun.

Speaker 7 (01:00:20):
Huh.

Speaker 19 (01:00:21):
And I'm like, dude, they're still here. It's practices over.
Get him out of here.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
Oh what a day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
A teammate, a friend, a colleague, Mike Roup proper, how
we do a big man?

Speaker 11 (01:00:31):
Hey, I love you guys. I'm glad to get on
here with you guys. But uh ann, dude, I was
drafted in the first round. I know I went back
in the draft and got drafted the third round, but
are you gonna strip that from me? So I was
never drafted in the first round. I don't even get
that acknowledgment anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
There's a clip.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
It says on YouTube, Mike Roup calls Jody Shelley irrelevant.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Talk to me twenty ten, you and Jody going head
to head.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
I hate that that clip made it out there. Man,
I do I do?

Speaker 11 (01:00:58):
You know I too because I was coaching my son
when I got done playing all these all these little
punk teenagers are playing at the lockero. I'm like, would
you shut your phone off like it was your phone?

Speaker 9 (01:01:07):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (01:01:07):
They're playing this clip. So let me give you a
little backstory because I play with Jody and Columbus and
you guys know Jody well, Jody. I was on line
with Jody. He's one of the greatest teammates I played
with in the NHL. I love Jody. It was the
battle of the Rangers and the Flyers, and in the
heat of the moment, you do what you things come

(01:01:29):
out right And did I now did I know? So
the full transparency get of that, I knew I was
might I was Mike. Okay that Mike was on me.
And so Mike during this HBO is covering the road
in the Winter Classic, this scrum happens. I'm going after
I'm going after Tom Cistido and I'm trying to fight him,

(01:01:50):
and Jody comes over and shoves me. He's like, why
are you going after the twenty two year old I'm
basically because he's acting like an idiot. Jody's like, you know,
asking me to fight, and so I'm not thinking about
being miked in that moment. I say that. Postgame, I
go up to our PR department and I say, hey,
I need to talk to we need to talk to
the HBO guys. I want that cut, and so they go,

(01:02:10):
all right, we'll talk to him. We'll see and the
HBO guys were like, well, let's see what you're talking about.
And they came back and they said, we can't cut that,
and I'm like, come on, and they're go, we.

Speaker 9 (01:02:22):
Need to leave that in.

Speaker 11 (01:02:23):
So they left it in and so it's kind of
gotten this thing. And I feel bad because, like, you know,
Joey's a great dude. I've worked them and whatever. But
I mean, I think Jody understands in the heat of
the moment. But yeah, man, that thing made its rounds
and I hear that all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
As you said, so frustrated too, like your kid and
his teavk's looking up like put your phone doing okay,
Like I love Joe, He's a great dude.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
It just came out. We've talked before with the Netflix
talk on the Danbury Trashers.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I mean unbelievable. I mean that people on Netflix love that.
Your favorite story reminiscing about that?

Speaker 11 (01:02:54):
Oh man, there's so many. My favorite story about the
Danbury Trashers was, I guess the best way of I
know some people explained it this way. It was basically
slap shot marrying the sopranos.

Speaker 7 (01:03:08):
I remember.

Speaker 11 (01:03:09):
I remember, so I had to play ten regular season
games of qualify for the playoff roster. So I tried to.
I played every other weekend I played in. My former
junior team was Erie of the Ontario Hockey League.

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
So I was.

Speaker 11 (01:03:21):
Playing an Aria, living in an Aria, practice with the
Otters during the week. Every other weekend I'd go play
a couple of games. So I got till ten i'd
be able to play in the playoffs. So anyways, I'm
starting I'm there for a little bit. I'm starting to
see how things are kind of happening here and this
is a really tough team and kind of seeing, oh, yeah,
this is this is a unique situation, and I remember
being on the bus and I was I was doing

(01:03:43):
a three and three in Michigan to bang out like
three games, and I was falling asleep on the bus
and I had my head against the window, and right
behind me the see behind me is you guys know
John Morasti, so nasty. Morasti is a tough guy on
our team. And so what ends up happening is Barry
Melrose and Steve Levy they own that or on that team,

(01:04:06):
and that's in the league. And Barry made a comment
to the media about Tony Soprano running the Danburry trash
as well. Our owner Jimmy Galante didn't like that, and
he said, we're gonna send a message next time we
play them that we were playing on the next weekend.
I was not scheduled to play that weekend. So I'm
sleeping against the window. Rasty's on the phone. He's making

(01:04:28):
a phone call to I think it was Chad Wagner
was his name, and he was I put this together later,
but this is the conversation. I'm here on one side
to Hey, buddy, it's me Nasty. What are you doing
next weekend? Hey, you want to come play some hockey?
Make some money. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like sleeping,

(01:04:48):
I'm like listening.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
And he's like he's.

Speaker 11 (01:04:50):
Like, yeah, man, no, no, no, I know you have
no no, no, I know you haven't played hockey in
a few years. No, I know you're not in shape.
It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 9 (01:04:59):
No.

Speaker 11 (01:04:59):
Literally, he wants you to come run around like a
dumb dumb and he's gonna pay you two grand to
come out and play the game. And it's like, all right,
well do you think about it?

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Let me know.

Speaker 11 (01:05:07):
Blah blah blah. Hangs up, and I'm like, what just happened?
So when I left that road trip, I said to
some of the boys, like, go hey, boys, keep me
posted what happens, because I think something's going down. Sure enough,
this Chad Wagner, he's been expelled from multiple leagues and
the like like pros, go look them up. Yes, yes,

(01:05:28):
like one penalty minutes. He's been expelled from all these places.
He came in played that weekend. Yeah he played. Uh,
he played one game.

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
He uh.

Speaker 11 (01:05:38):
He ended up climbing into around X bench and pulled
the coach by his uh, by his blazer and punched
the coach got expelled from the UHL. I'm like, wow,
this is unbelievable. But and there was also times where
we just be driving back or between games and you
stop at a truck stop and you hear the bus breaks,
you know, the.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Doors would open.

Speaker 11 (01:05:59):
You're like waking up. You're like, what are we doing?
And the lights would come on and there'd just be
some dude on the bus and it'd be like Frank
the Animal by A Lois. We're just picking them off
off the turnpike, Like what are we doing? Like is
that is that Frank? Is that by Frank BYO Lois?
And then like he goes playing a game and just
beat the wheels off people and then get stop and
drop them off with the truck stop on your way home.

Speaker 10 (01:06:21):
Literally, Suresy I started watching Shorty. It's literally Suresy phill
am in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
He is now one of the top players on the
best team in hockey this season. Ladies and gentlemen, Dylan
Strom here in NHL unscripted, Dylan, good to see you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Thanks for having me. Boys, appreciate it you.

Speaker 10 (01:06:38):
You talked about Chick there and and I have to
touch a little bit on Jacob Chicken and all of
the things, all of the things he does off ice.
What is he on right now? Is he on the
steak and beef tower or is he doing a kettlebell circuit?
Or is he doing cartwheels? What's he got going on?

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:06:53):
God, yeah, he's beef tallow is the one thing that
that gets brought up a lot here. No, no, no oils.

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 20 (01:07:02):
I honestly don't know. He's a new thing every day.
I heard yesterday that he's no light bulbs. He's doing
a candle candle light in his house. Now, yeah, that's
what that's what his saying thing was yesterday. So he
was on he was onto a bees wax candles, is
what I heard.

Speaker 7 (01:07:16):
Is great for you.

Speaker 20 (01:07:16):
So now now we're we're all talking about bees wax candles.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
No light bulbs in the rink, whatever it takes.

Speaker 20 (01:07:22):
That's what I do him. Like, you can't you can't
have it one way with But I don't know that's
a top topic for a different day. But like there's
lights everywhere, Like when are you talking about no light bulbs?

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Speaking of lights and being in the spotlight.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Uh, Dylan, you've been used to it because you know,
play with Conrack, David, the Erie Otters, the OHL. What
was it like having so much attention again and run
a teammate like that as you're seeing now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
With the Vetchkin.

Speaker 20 (01:07:43):
Yeah, I mean the situations are are are pretty similar. Obviously,
you know a little bit greater of a stage now,
but you know when you're in that moment and you're
on a junior team and things are you know, pretty
crazy around the draft and you know there's talk like
he's the next Crosby and and things like that. So
it was definitely crazy back then. You know, we we
had a lot of fun. We had a you know,

(01:08:03):
I unbelieve team. We made some great pickups of the
deadline that year, and we had a lot of fun.
We made a run to the finals in the OHL
that year, and you know, it was awesome to be
a part of it and kind of see a whole
city kind of get behind a team and you know
how that worked. So definitely some similarities with you know,
the kind of the superstardom you know type type people

(01:08:24):
and players. But I think just you know, seeing it
now and seeing it at you kind of a national
level and seeing it, you know, people are we have
people that come out of you know, after practice, and
there's people from Belarus, there's people from Austria, from Germany.
Someone had to sign last night and said, I'm from
Korea here to see OV and like it's like, you know,

(01:08:44):
people are coming from everywhere near and far to see
this guy play.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
So it's no, it's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
He's one of the best skating pictures ever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
And most importantly, our friend and a colleague at MLB
Network with Intentional Talk, which you can watch weekdays at
four o'clock Eastern.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Ladies and gentlemen rocking a Northeeks Jersey. Ryan Dempster, what
is up, temp?

Speaker 15 (01:09:02):
Yes, I love this mold school right here. Like I'm
actually I've been meaning to go get my tug nut
put on the back that he had seventy three saves
in a game I didn't go against anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Else, So I've got to tell the story.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
We're at the All Star Game last year in Seattle
and in the gym, demp comes in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
We're just kind of loosen up here on the treadmill
and I like, I typ to last time. I God,
I much watch William how about you?

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
And you said to me, I was hanging out with
Eddie Vedder and we're listening to the new unreleased music
of the Rolling Stones.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
That is an all time flex.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
By you.

Speaker 9 (01:09:34):
Dude.

Speaker 15 (01:09:34):
That night was I'll tell this story a little bit
because I think it's I think it says volumes about Ed.
So I get a text from him and THEOSA come
down the house to Ed. He's got he's got his
house in Seattle. And then down the street he bought
the beach house, just kind of down the street and
it's just this nice, beautiful property and it's right on
the water. And so I show up and it's it's

(01:09:55):
him and Woody and uh. He works with the league
and then Chris snow former general manager with the assistant
general manager with the with the flames, and at this time,
you know, he's going through the als. Stuff's hitting him
really hard. You know, he's nonverbal. He can still walk,
you know, harder to move his arms and stuff like this,

(01:10:17):
and and so we're all drinking coronas and it's kind
of that you've got a fire going. And then it's like,
you know, hey, man, you know you're not gonna believe this,
but I got to like he's telling the story. I
got to cut some music for the New Stones album,
you know, like Ronnie Wood called me and I'm like, yeah,
me too. I was busy though, so you know, like uh,

(01:10:37):
and so the sound guy for Pearl Jam works with
the Stone and they're cutting this album, so he doesn't
want to hear a few and we're like, yeah, let's go.
So he plays these and then he's like, all right,
now I'm gonna play this, but you promised you cannot.
Let's like, do not let this out, you know, don't
tape any of them, Like we're we're not gonna tape it.
And he plays the entire Black Matter the new Pearl
Jam album six months before the Pearl Jam album is

(01:10:59):
being released, you know. And I know this for a fact,
and it wasn't it didn't to be said. But the
only reason we heard any of that was because he
knew that Chris only had so much time left on
this earth and that there was a good chance he
wasn't going to hear any of that music. And that,
to me, is why Eddie is one of these iconic legends,

(01:11:20):
Hall of Fame superstars that truly touches other people's lives
in a way that we can only imagine. You know,
and it was just unreal for him to do that,
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:11:28):
And and I'll finish with this.

Speaker 15 (01:11:30):
So we get done at the end of the night,
and then THEO and what are you We got to
get to Chris back then it's cold out. We can't
get him, he can't get sick, you know. We gotta
get him back to the hotel, you know, so he
can't tell us that he doesn't, you know. And he's
kind of like looking at me like like I can
tell and I kind of have had a few to
me chronos. I'm like, go, why we going? Yeah, another album?

(01:11:52):
You can make real quick, ed Like, let's make something
right now, you know, Like we're having a blast. So
we get in the car, we take them back to
his hotel. THEO takes him up to the room. Chris's
wife right drops him off at the hotel. Next day,
I got to text this. It's a group text message
from THEO that said, by the way, I got this
from Chris's wife said, Chris had the best time of
his life last night. Didn't want to leave. Not sure

(01:12:14):
why you guys took him home MS, yes and peace, buddy,
I know you're up there.

Speaker 12 (01:12:21):
Man.

Speaker 15 (01:12:21):
It was a night to never forget man, it was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
All right, thank you once again to Mike Cannoe. Well
fresh new content here an NHL and Scripted. Thank you
once again to tell did a fantastic job gathering together
all these clips, and I hope you guys all enjoyed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Reminiscing here on what has been a fantastic year of
year one. But don't worry.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
We've got more NHL and Scripted coming up next month
once JD is back.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Of course, the NHL.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Schedule is now out, so we want to talk all
about that. Of course, the Amazon Prime schedule on Mondays
is particular focus for me. But we'll look at our
key matches, which teams we think of easy schedules, which
teams have relatively tough schedules. Plus there's always news percolating.
Maybe a move gets happening, you know, some trade, some
free agent, whoever it is. It's a quiet time, but
NHL and Scripted is still all over. It will also
look ahead to the upcoming season at which teams we

(01:13:02):
think are going to have the one step forward, one
stay back. Anyways, thanks so much for check out on
Angel in Scripted for Talpin Chefs to come, Mad Daan Verk,
We'll see you next time. NHL Unscripted is a production

(01:13:26):
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