The Talented Tyson Barrie: Back from holiday, young guns get paid and JD pissed off Jason Robertson.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart Podcasts.
Great to have you with us here an NHL Unscripted.
We are back, and that's right, folks. We are two
weeks away from preseason games in the NHL, so let's

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do this. We're going back to a new episode every Thursday.
Of course, we'll have previews of all that's happening with
which should be another exciting NHL season, and of course
news as it comes down, and once the preseason games
get going, obviously have a lot more fun. Tyson Barry
is going to join us. What a terrific guy is.
He's got great story Smith's career obviously playing with the
Color of the Avalanche, so many superstars like Nathan mckinnon'
stories of playing with Leon Drystyle and the Oilers, Patrick Waugh,

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you name it. He's obviously had a great career and
can reflect on that now and obviously is new adventures.
He's working on Chili Ones, a new beer. Tyson Burry
will tell us all about that. JD and Chris Chellio's
not even actually Chris Chellio's going to look forward to
that conversation coming up. Plus talk about the Lightning mascot
throwing down against a little kid when mascots attack. See
file on sixty Highest to Lowest, a new Spike Lee

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joint F one, which jd Over reviewed at rip Graham
Graham a great Canadian actor. However, we just got through
holiday weekend, JD worry out on you. Labor Day weekend, barbecuing,
water skiing. How do you celebrate the official end of summer?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I don't you Just can I catch up on work
when people are are out celebrating and obviously you know
Labor Day and Memorial Day and all those things, those
are those are times of reflect and things like that.
But for me, the three day weekend, I like to
catch up on everything that I need to catch up on,
and I feel like I get a leg up on everybody. Yeah,

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and then once the once the week starts, then I
take my vacation where everybody's back to work. So I
like to flip it. No traffic, everything's clean, smooth. I
don't like to go to the beaches when it's packed.
I just you know, I just went to Italy and
we went to every place that's not tourist like to
stay away from the population.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
This feels a little bit like an am I wrong?
Like you look at Labor Day holiday weekend, this is
the time to celebrate the unofficial end of summer. You go, No,
I live in Arizona, so if the weather's still nice,
it is no unofficial end of summer. And I'm with
you one hundred percent of avoiding the beach. People like oh,
Jersey Shore, one last Kick, I go. You couldn't pay
enough dollars together their Labor Day weekend?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
No way? Yeah, now, chance, it's it's it's like going
to dinner Friday Saturday. I understand our lives are some
people's lives. You're working a nine to five and you
know you don't have the opportunity, But like Friday Saturday,
when when everybody's going out and things are packed, I'm
not doing that. I'd rather find a way to be
tired on a Tuesday and going on a Monday night

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just because I know I can get to all the
best restaurants, best places without anybody that ain't of the
riff wrap there. Well, yeah, Jersey, imagine Jersey Shore one
last Kick.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I was watching the news. I was like, Oh, it's
so great out here. You know, I'm just enjoying Ashbury Parking. God, God,
you're like, what are you leaven at eight am to
get their camping out overnight? Like that's a disaster. I
love the beach as much as anybody, but you're right,
Labor Day weekend. I am pro barbecue, though. I think
a good little barbecue is good.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I did a little bit.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, burgers and dogs to the wrong with that little steak.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Okay, I have a POV for you guys for that.
What's your take because you know you talk about like,
you know, getting there at eight a m. Like the
people that go to they'll go to like the beach
you know in Fort Lauderdale or or in Florida or
at these sandals resorts, people run out of like six
in the morning and throw their towels down on the
set of chairs that are like at the front of
the pool. Like, what's your take on that? Like should

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those people be absolutely? Yeah? Right, Like let's off.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
If you're there, you're there, don't don't just hoard it. Yeah,
Like you're just walking your territory.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Just mark You're just marking your territory. And then you
leave and you sit there all day doing nothing because
you want to be close to the pool and get
one picture for Instagram.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
That's weak sauce tow Were you at Labor Day weekend
on the fishing again, you are in a warm climate.
You're in California. You have you have nice lille all
the time. In Jersey, it's different.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
It was brutal, yeah, and the heat was brutal here
over the weekend too. It was I mean, by California standards,
by Arizona standards, it probably wasn't that bad. Yeah, exactly
ninety one degrees, but it was hot.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
It was hot. But yeah, we I.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
It's I feel it feels so long. Like the kids
were off Friday at school here, so it's a four
day weekend. And a buddy invited me to a barbecue.
We went to that. That was about it, and we
went out and tried to just keep the ac on.
I like the beach, but I don't want to go
to the beach on the busiest beach weekend of the
whole year. And I'm not a big lay on the

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beach guy. If I'm going to the beach, I'm in
the ocean and I'm hanging out in the ocean. Yeah, yeah,
my my pale Eastern European lineage will not let me
just bake on the beach for three hours. I can't
do it. It'll be it'll be bad. Yeah, yeah, lobster
face after that. So I'm definitely not doing that. But

(05:00):
we we we had a nice long weekend and but
I'm not like, I'm not going all out or anything
like that.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I was gonna ask, what do you think about school
being started again? You mentioned in California again, in the
East Coast, we start school after labor, which IVE always liked.
They grew up like that in Ontario. Do you like
the mid August you guys go back to school in California.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
It's awful out here too. In Arizona, I.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Was third week of August. I think the kid, the
kid went back to school. I mean I was ready
for it. He wasn't ready for it. I was ready
for it, that's for damn sure. But it does seem early.
It seems like so early it's still summer. It's still summer.
I mean, I, hey, get back to school, kid. I
don't care if it's July.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
But they thrown me a horse camp or something.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
But I feel like if I was going up and
I was like Okay, it's August eighteenth, back to school?
What's going on here?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
This?

Speaker 4 (05:49):
You're like sending me to school on a Saturday. This
makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, it's a little nuts, but I hear you. Mom
and dadd eat a break too. So everyone's back on sweel. Jada,
you're on the icepit a week ago for Body Armor
with Jason Robertson Luke Hughes. How was it those two
young stars again? Robertson's trying to bounce back to season.
He was looking for a new contract. I don't know
how much you want to divulge with your conversations where,
but just how are the vibes of those two guys.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
No, it's pretty It's honestly a really cool I got
a funny story about Jason Robertson at the end, But
it's it's a cool commercial they're doing. I'd say it's
a YouTube. It's a YouTube video, and it's really cool
if the NHL is doing body Armor, and and you know,
it was the smartest thing of them to choose me
to go there to kind of host it because you
know I'll get the most out of them. Thank you,

(06:31):
Thank you, NHL. Appreciate it very smart, well done, but no,
it's we basically like talk to the guys. And Andrew
Ferren's kind of it was his kind of brain child
with a couple other people and he works with the league,
and we basically like asked the guys, hey, like, what's
your kind of What's three things you focus on on
the ice and then in the gym and how do

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those things connect and translate? So it's it's really giving
like more access and more in depth to these NHL guys,
which I think fans love to see because it's a
different mind, Like you get to see inside the of
like Jason Robertson, Luke Ques what they think. Some of
the guys that we've interviewed are like, you know, they're
more like savants where they're like, listen, I don't tend
to think too much about certain things and I just

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kind of feel into things and I feel into the
way I should be moving or working out. Then there's
other guys like Robertson where when this episode comes out,
I you know, he is so a analytical it's it's insane.
At everything single inch he thinks of on the ice
and where his feet are placed, where his sticky's place
and how he watches video to coincide with that. So
it was really cool in that respects and Luke Hughes

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is more like just like I just you know, I
just play and I skate and I feel into it
and I just want to be an athlete. So those
things are really cool. It was a cool format. It
was a little touch and go when I did Jason
Robertson because like when we did that Pro Athlete Golf Tour,
like three weeks before, the Empty Netters guys had me
on and you know, I'd thrown a couple of cocktails

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back and it was the end of the tournament and
we're just talking. You know, the empty and Edits guys
are great at kind of hosting their way through and
they get you to kind of say, shit, that's like
on the edge. And they were talking about Jason Robertson
being in these trade talks and he hasn't signed yet,
and should the Dallas Stars trade Jason Robertson, And I
was like, yes they should. I think his one hundred

(08:21):
point season was kind of a fluke, but I tied
it all together being like he's a great player. He's
a really good player, and I think he's you know,
I just think for what Dallas needs to get over
the hump, they could get some really good players for
him that would fill those other needs because I think
they have a lot of the same player, Jason Robertson
being the lead score of all of them. So what

(08:42):
do you think happens? They clip this video the empty
Netters guys. They put it on social media a week
before I'm there, so I look and they're like trying
to get me to collaborate, and it's like me, it's me.
The way they cut it, it looks like I'm like, Jason
Robertson's a piece of shit. So I'm like, oh my god,
I have to go do this. So I'm like, can
you guys take this down? So they ended up taking

(09:05):
it down, I think, or they probably didn't. So what
do you think happens? I show up to Michigan we
were filming where they practice, and the day before Andrew
Ferrens is like, hey, did you talk about Jason Robertson
and like a podcasts and I'm like, yeah, why, what's
for somebody else? I was like, yeah, I did, he goes, Oh,

(09:25):
he goes. I kind of heard it and He's like
you kind of buried him a little bit. He's like
you weren't wrong, but like you kind of buried him.
And I was like, all I said was like when
he had fifty goals, was like a couple of them
were off stick skates, and he's he's a thirty forty
goal scorer. But I think, like, you know, eighty ninety
point guy. So I show up to the rink on
the day we're skating. I walked to the rink and

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Jacob chickering.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Before you say anything, tell if it's me. I completely
backtrack it. Roberts Goes just sound like, honestly, I'm an idiot.
I don't know. I was thinking of that day like
I would before he even says it. Word like I'm wrong.
Go ahead, j D. I think has no more it's
good in the game than me, But go ahead.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Jason Robertson will not be appearing on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I clean it up without really backtracking, say here's what
I meant, but go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Everything was prefaced by me saying I think he's a
great player, like I just it was it. It was,
but the way it was framed in the way obviously
it's cut and I you could. If I'm an if
I'm an athlete, I'd probably take it the wrong I go,
fuck you, like whatever. So I show up and they're
all skating. You know, it's like Nick Robertson, Jason Robertson,
Jacob Chickrien and they skate before we were filming with

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him on the ice. So I know Jacob Chicken. I'm
really close to them, so I didn't even know he's there,
so I kind of I kind of screamed, hey, Chicky
and he's like, oh my god. So he skates over
first thing he says. He goes, hey, Jason Robertson's really
mad at you. I went no, It's like an hour
before we're shooting.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I'm like, oh my god, did you end up collaborating
on the ig or no? Yes?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Where well on the I g like, I didn't collaborate.
This is Oh no, I didn't because I'm not going
to call attention to it.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I'm gonna call away.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah. I'm just like I kind of told him to
take it down and and we'll get the empty netters
guys on. Maybe they'd love to come on and h
and uh and and talk with us, so they'll probably
you know anyway. So so I go, oh shit. So
I'm like, hey, I didn't mean anything. But he's like yeah,
he was like playing it in the room like like yesterday,

(11:25):
and I'm like, oh fuck. And I'm like, here it
is this and this hasn't happened to me since I've
been in broadcasting and stuff because I kind of told
the line well and I try to yeah, because I
understand what it was like. And and I mean there
are some guys that I'm like, I'll never run into.
So I'm just like, you know, here's my honest opinion.
So he comes on. So he kind of like comes over,

(11:47):
and he comes over and I was like, you know,
I'm just like I'm like, hey, man, like are you
mad at me? I'm like, are you passed?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
He's like, no, dress off of the room.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
He's like no, He's like no, all good. He's like
all good, all good. So it's like very but it's
like very kind of a little stand office, and I.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Got doesn't feel it all good. Like it feels like so.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Kind of everybody now is on like pins and needles,
Like the producers are like holy fuck, and like Andrew
Ferrens is like Jesus and I'm like, hey, man, like
I'll address it. So he kind of was like a
little bit like standoffish, and you know, I was like,
oh shit, So I'm like and then you gotta be
on camera. I gotta be like, hey, I'm here with
superstar Jason Robertson. So so we do the intro and

(12:27):
then it was kind of like a light switch and
we started you know, it's for kids and for youth athletes,
and I mean, he was amazing, Like he just kind
of got into depth about talking about analytics and how
he's pissed off that he doesn't get the respect he
deserves through analytics because you know, he might not be
the fastest on paper or stuff like that. So and
we had a great conversation. We did a great job.

(12:48):
He did an amazing job. I think it's gonna be
probably the best, the best episode out of the four.
And he was just great. And then you know, it
was kind of like hey man, congrats, good luck, and
see you after and he was gone. But it was
like I'm like, oh no, oh, now, well listen, you
did top backtrack from your words. You just said we're good,

(13:08):
and he say, yeah, we're good. You're like, okay, whether
we are or not, let's just go ahead and do this.
He was a total prong camera, which you were as well.
To me, that's about as good as it could have gone. Yeah,
it's good other than us having like a beer and
going out and so and then going on. I just
think is as good as it could have went. But
I wish he had.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Only said a little bit of what he was annoyed by,
but were good, like, yeah, I just didn't what you said.
Then you'd be like, okay, Like, let's be honest. You're
a little chap like that.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
That's I'm an air Yeah, yeah, I'm an airing agreements
this guy.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
You go, okay, I totally got dude, Like I hear him.
It is my perfective. I did see you're a great player.
I do think a lot think just my thought all good,
Like just just make the point and then we're totally fine.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
As you know, having working with me, right, And I
won't sit on camera, but I will air grievances if
they need to be aired. And but I'm just like,
it's not from a place of hate, it's just a
place of hay, let's get this all out there.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
And let's get it. Let's get it, let's get it out.
Just air the dirty, launch it. But yeah, he But honestly,
I when I left, I was like and I said
bye to him, and I was like, hey man, I
got a newfound respect for you. And I kind of
was like I hate Crow, Like I had to eat
Crow live in color and just be like this is it.
Like I was like, I was wrong, and I really

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do respect who he is as a player more.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I don't know if you wrong. You were, You didn't
ever you said he's a great player. You're just saying
you can make a move, that's all. So I don't
even think you ate Crow. I think you just said
he's great. I just think a move would be beneficial,
that's all.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Jason robertson over one hundred points next to your Bookhet.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Bucket Demurs motivated demurs. In effect, it makes me think
about a couple of things. One, you know, I asked
Joe Buck once time years ago for advice, and he said,
you know, the best advice is dad Jack Buck gave
him because you know, it's a hard sport, it's a
hard game, and that doesn't mean you have to like
kiss their ass. But if you're going to be critical, like,
you'd better have some backup. So if you say, demurse

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stinks out there, you know, okay, but you better know
what you're talking about, Like, you better be at minus
five and you like have proof that he was looking this.
If you just like this guy sucks, like you better
back it up because, as you said, these guys know
how hard it is. There's this many people in the
world that can do what they're doing. So if guy's
a tough night, it's seven a tough night. I wish
you could better. So, like as you said, you're fine

(15:17):
about towing the line. Your job is to be critical,
to be honest and say he needs me better in
this department. He's a better player than that. But it
is a stark reminder someone's always listening. And my thought
was always this, Jason Robertson has better things to do
than listen to Jason Dumurr's on empty netters. But the
entourage of Jason Robertson will get it too. So a cousin,
a brother, Adam, a friend, that's the guy that goes, hey, yo,

(15:37):
just you know this guy says some shit about you,
You go, oh shit.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, that, you know, like Adam Fox's dad like does
not like me apparently, cause I because I said again,
the line is towed. And I say, guys in the
league said they like playing against Adam Fox in the playoffs,
and I said that it's not a knock on Adam Fox.
That's a knock on the New York Rangers not getting
a guy to protect him. What does the Rangers do

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this year? They go get gabrick Off, perfect compliment to
Adam Fox. I think Adam Fox has a bounce back here,
but his dad heard it. Dad thinks I'm a piece
of shit. Adam Fox's dad apologies. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Well this year, Jason Robinson, Adam Fox coming soon an
NHL and script. I think it's gonna happen. Let's just
stay positive. The good vibes are coming. Great story though
about you, guys talking together. Been two weeks since Frank
Naser signed a seventy year, forty six million dollar extension
to playing just fifty three games the Blackhawks. Plenty of
buzz around this deal falls the trend of young players
getting major term very early. Owen Power seven years, fifty

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eight point four five million Buffalo when he was twenty
your Ice left Cosky's signing his eight years sixty million
with the Habs, Jackson Blake eight year forty five Last season,
UTUH gave Dylan Gunther eight years fifty seven million for
playing seventy eight games, and the big suscension could be
coming soon for Connor ber Dark. What do you make jd.
Young guys cashing in big the term and the dollars.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
And it just means I played in the NHL before
I should have because you know, you're looking at that
your deal a lot more that potential. But it's just
things have shifted now, you know where it's a young
man's league. You're paying for potential. Now you're not paying
for You're not paying for what a kid has done.
Now you know, you know, Frank Naser has played about

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fifty six games, Like that is crazy to me to
expect to get that amount of money after fifty six games.
But they obviously, whether they're right or wrong, the Chicago Blackhawks,
they see potential. They think that this will end up
becoming a bargain because that's what you're typically doing as
a team, as you'll be like, well, if I give
him this much money, by the time the contract reaches maturity,

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will be in a good place, the salary cap will
go up, We'll be fine. And that's what you do
with the youth guys. Now it's not so much approve
it league anymore. I think there are still levels of
that for players, but you know, the young prospects don't
have to prove as much. They just have to kind
of show that there is potential and there is a
ceiling to get to and then you know, I listen,

(18:01):
I'm all for guys getting paid. I know my player,
he's like, fuck this guy. But the taking a step back,
I think it's great for the league. And it's also
it's a lot lower risk for teams to do this
versus pay guy that's twenty six twenty seven pay him
an eight year deal, because you don't know if by

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the time the guy hits thirty thirty one, you know, injuries,
he really falls off a cliff.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's that's what I want to ask you. How much
damage is a cost as team if your ice left
costka ends up being a bust, if he's not an
eight million dollars a year player, if he's a four
million dollars year player, how damaging is that in terms
of the cap, in terms of giving that much term
to that guy for that long.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well, it's it's it can be. But I feel like
teams will take the exit, and I think other teams
are still you look at Zegres in Philly.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
You can you can flip a guy. Yeah, you could.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Still get a trade because people still think, well, there
is the potential there. He can still play out his contract.
He's got a couple of years left on it, and
if he doesn't perform, we just resigned him to a
cheap deal. So there's still that level there where it's
like you haven't out and I think teams recognize that
if now you know you look at myself. You know

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I got signed to a five year deal and teams
that I'm thirty three, thirty four, and teams are like, well,
I don't want to take a flyer on this amount
of money because if it does work out, I'll just
let this contract play out, let this team eat it,
and sign him to a PTO and then if he
makes his way back, then it's great for me. And
it's even cheaper versus a young guy. You're like, well,

(19:38):
I can still get this guy. He's still got eight
nine years left of playing potentially, so this is also
a bargain in itself. So it just it just opens
the door for gms, I think, to be a little
bit more creative, and I think it's a way to circumvent,
you know, not paying the older guys and not getting
stuck with these long contracts when guys are thirty four

(19:59):
to thirty five and having to pay like the Rick
Dpa tros and having to pay guys for ten years.
It's just you just save yourself that trouble. So I
think it's a it's just a sneaky way of GM's
kind of circumventing the cap and finding a way to
you know, have the best team possible.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, like I said, if you're missing a guy, I
can always try to flip him, convince yourself a change
the scenery. He can be walking with someone. As that
does happen, a guy does need to can move on
somewhere else. Bruins lost and Patrice Burgraun mostly been raising
his family since playing his last game in Boston twenty
twenty three. He got fans buzzing online. Last week. Cortex
Hockey released a real Bergoun practicing face offs with Will
Smith of the Sharks and Alex Newhook of the Habs.

(20:37):
Anyone better these young guys could learn face offs from
and Patrice Berghum, do you seem at some point g
to being back in the league, maybe with the Bruins
coaching scouting something that have Patrice burs run back in
the HL. Well.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I saw him three weeks ago and we I kind
of asked him that question. So I was doing a
little journalistic work on top of all the other hats
that I wear. So and he, you know, right now,
he's just worrying about taking care of his kids. Uh,
he's around the rink. His wife is who's amazing, is
is also a you know, she's in school and finishing

(21:12):
up her masters. I think so he's kind of letting
her kind of chase down her dreams and then I
think he's eventually going to kind of slide back into it.
But he looks fantastic. He's he's like doing high rocks
those high rockses and training and could probably still play.
But I think he does have a taste for the
game and loves being around the rink. And a guy

(21:33):
like that will just if he ever wants to, he
ever wants to get a job anywhere. It'll be the
minute he says. Yeah, It's kind of like Joe Thornton,
you know, with San Jose. They just want him around
the rink in any capacity. So I can see him
being an advisor something like that in the next you know,
four or five years and eventually getting into the league.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, Hyena likes highly well liked. Still young enough. They
can relate to all these players, There's no doubt about it.
Last thing before we get to our special guest, Tyson
Barry your Sharks giving away a special Maclin celebrity Will
Smith sleepover Bobblehead this season. If fans want to complete
the set, they can buy a special Tyler to fully
attachment guest of NHL and Scripted to add to the

(22:14):
limited edition Bobblehead. Jad In terms of Bobbleheads, just where
you at in general pro bobblehead, anti bobblehead. You see
these lineups for like a show, Hey a Tani Bibblehead.
Jason demurs Bablehead. I hope is in your home somewhere
wheread you have with the ball Bobblehead Craze.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I don't think I ever sniffed anywhere close to a
bibblehead anywhere in my life, Like, unless I sled you
a bit, wait, unless they want an Ali Baba myself.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I bought created a Jason Demurse bobble Yeah, I mean
I think for the top guys.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, you know, you fans anything to to make a
little cash for the organization. I think fans will buy
it in droves. I don't like just a bobblehead night
every week, you know, I think that's just a little ridiculous.
But you know it's it's just little things that kids like,
and you know, parents buy for their kids their favorite player.
And I'm got indifferent to it. Honestly. It's like one

(23:05):
of those things that it doesn't really you know, doesn't
make my dick hard, but it doesn't make it soft either.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
It's just that's the kind of expression I was opening
a boy, been thinking of bobble heads. But now we'll
always have that in my mind. I can't wait for
the next you know that was something like that. Yeah,
it doesn't make my dick, cart doesn't make it soft either, Like, well,
I can come see it comesaf What do you think
of this bobble had specifically, at least the innovative nature
of it celebrating Smith's sleepover. Do you at least appreciate

(23:31):
the thought process behind it or is it trying too hard?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, I listen, I can't say anything bad about the Sharks,
but it's a lot I just don't. Yeah, it's like
unless it's like unless there's only like ten of them,
you know, like collector's items. You want it to be
collector's items, right, So yeah, you know, I'm like tenn
of they'se you raffle them off. Half goes to charity, Uh,
the Sharks Foundation. You've had a big number, and you'd
probably sell more of them, you know, you'd sell them

(23:57):
for bigger, bigger numbers. Right then people have these collector's items,
if you know, Maclin celebrity and will Smith do what
we think they're going to do and just beat stars.
But yeah, otherwise it's kind of like just an interesting one.
It's like, I don't know, it's a little weird. Too young,
two kids that aren't legal sleeping over.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
It's a little bit like a broke Back Mountain type
bubble mack will Swiss sleep over bubbleief?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Do we not know? The kids? Not twenty one?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
So it feels like.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Just a touch, yeah, just a touch of predatorial, yes,
so not that kind of pat and the older big
brother is in there as well, Tyler and.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
The times at that part, it's just like third man.
I'm I'm not sure if that's necessary. It's a limited
edition where my mind goes and you know, that's just
like I said, I like producer tal has beat red
once again. Nor thoughts on baba, Tell do you collect baba?
You ever had a baba in your house? You must
have a cow was thinking of that Stefan babo head
meets before that time.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
But something I don't actively collect them or anything like
that there. And listen, fans want to get something for free, right,
they're paying a lot to go to these games. They're
collect to bulls. Maybe if you're lucky, you'll get you'll
get your your celebrinee Will Smith sleepover bobblehead, you know, autographed.
I don't know. I think it's a nice touch. I think, look,
all these teams are trying to add a little value

(25:17):
to the overall experience, and this is part of the
way to do it. I think, you know, the sleepover
thing went viral for a little while last season. I
think they're they're trying to get that thing going again.
Who knows, maybe they'll do some more sleepover videos. I
have no idea what's going on with this, but it's
perfectly innocent. Come on, fellas. But yeah, I think it

(25:37):
looks cool. But I think if you're getting it, you
have to get the tyler to fully add on, it's
kind of pointless if you're not going out and paying
to get the addition.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
The getting, The older gentleman added on, just what's.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
The last what's what's an acceptable age for sleepovers? And
what age?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Are they not acceptable for my kids or for so
like your kid?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
What's in a sleepover's age?

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Like I have fun, buddy, my kids nowhere close to sleepover.
He's about to turn six. I'm about like twelve, maybe
twelve going over it?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Teenager? And at what point is it two? Always because
I have a sleepover?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
My friend, you got a little on eighteen forty five?
Did you just have a sleepover recently?

Speaker 4 (26:21):
I did not. I did not. I'm just that's just
the number.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Tell the body and they just had a sleepover. I
beg your pardon, like they have like a tree house.
I just got it together.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Question tell question for you what do you do with
the mic are you? Are you like touch auto muting
and unmuting yourself. That's the button right there. That's it.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
That's the button. I don't know if you're if you
have the same model. It turns it's green when it's
it's green when it's on, and it turns red when
you when you touch it. That's what I've been.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Doing, folks listening the technology scary.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
It dovetails perfectly the next topic because sadly my microphone
was not green when I touched it. The audio not ideal,
But you're gonna love this se interview. Nonetheless, Tyson Barry
is a terrific dude. He's got great stories from playing
with the Avalanche. Interesting story with the Leafs, Patrick Wad,
the oilers, all that more. Tyson Burry recently retired on
to his next adventures. It's coming up right after this

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our next castwer is draft in the third round, sixty
fourth overall by the Colorado Avalanche of the two thousand
and nine NHL Draft. He quickly turned into a standout
offensive defenseman, collecting five hundred and eight points in eight
hundred and twenty two games with the Avalanche. Maple leaves oilers,
petitors and flames before recently announcing his retirement. We're thrilled
to have him here. He's a very patient manager in
addition to being a terrific hockey player. Tyson Barry, good

(27:46):
to see you, buddy.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
How you doing, Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate
you guys. Troubleshooting the last time.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
We'll forever being dead. It's your patients for techo difficulties. Listen, man,
congrats are an awesome career. I know it's tough maybe
in some ways to reflect on everything. But what's it
been like for you since making that big announcement.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Well, it's honestly been been great.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
You know, obviously very very grateful to have played in
the league as long as I did, but kind of
taking a load off and the initial announcement there was
a lot of you know, congrats and a lot of
really nice messages, a bunch of interviews to get through
and stuff, and then it kind of settled down and
really just kind of enjoying some downtime on the island

(28:27):
here and yeah, really it's kind of just chilling out.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Was it like a long decision because I know you
kind of joked that it was a mutual decision between
you and all thirty two teams. But was it something
that you had kind of been thinking about and did
you kick around maybe going to Europe and continuing to play,
or was it just you know, you felt it in
your bones that it was time.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Obviously, last year free agency I didn't have much I
went on a Pieto to Calgary that obviously kind of
didn't go the way I would have liked it. So
about after I'd been health bomb for like ninety straight days,
I thought that retirement might be on the horizon. So
I had a good kind of runway to wrap my
head around it. I thought about going over to Switzerland.

(29:13):
There was a team that I was really interested in.
They decided to go a different direction, which was devastating,
but that's okay. And then after that I just kind
of thought, you know what, I'm just going to hang
them up. I got been very blessed to play a
lot of years and make a good living, and I've
got two young kids, and I just you know, I've
got a lot of other passions and interest outside of hockey,

(29:35):
So it was just kind of a natural, natural progression.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Hey, man. Definitely making the right decision. Tyson. Let's reflect
in your career obviously so many great moments. You know,
you're a key young player in Colorado. After you get
through the rest of that course is to come in McKinnon, Landiskog,
Ranton and mccarr who stuck out for you the most
when you were there.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
In Colorado, like as people are players, because I either
I think as players. I mean I think if if
you've been watching following the game at all, McKinnon and
mccarr have been pretty good for the last round. No,
I mean, Nate's one of my best friends, lands Coogg,
Eric Johnson, really good people, Miko Granton and uh I play.

(30:14):
I mean I played with so many guys there and
so many good teammates. But yeah, just to watch kind
of Nate turn into a bit of a generational player
and Kale and you know what they've been able to do.
You know, they obviously hoisted one there and then individually
they've kind of collected it all.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
So, uh, you know, really.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Grateful I got to start my career there and kind
of piggyback Nate to a couple of big seasons, And yeah,
I always always love going back to Denver, and I
feel like as a second home for.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Me to talk about, Like, you've played with so many
superstars and and you know, some would call him like
very you know, you talk about the Nates, and we
hear stories about Nate, how serious he is and and
how dialed in he is. And you're a very serious
guy on the ice and you're playing, but you're also listen.
You you joke, you're lighthearted. You you want to keep

(31:01):
things light in the room. So it's like, for you,
how did that always work? Coming in and dealing with
guys like that and making sure that you know you're
an integral part of that team as well, and those
teams because you're able to keep things light and keep
those guys not so serious.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I think Nate's obviously very detailed and super you know,
dialed when it comes to hockey, and there's a time
and a place for me for that. But the majority
of the time, I was just trying to keep keep
it light. And you know, I think you could laugh
or cry as kind of the saying, and I just
always chose to laugh.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
And even when things.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Got a little bit I probably laughed sometimes when I
shouldn't have, But I think guys appreciate that, and it's
okay to you know, kind of find the humor in
most things and keep it.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Light coming in. You talked about Nate dog Like, you know,
talk about those teams early on when when Nate was
there and how he changed the vibe. And also just
you know who for you was somebody when you came
into the league that really helped you kind of get
your feet and teach you things that you might have
learned when you're in Colowna.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah, two fold a question. I think I'll start with,
you know guys that kind of brought me in and
put me under the ring wing right away. Paul Stasney.
I had the chance to meet him when I was
like seventeen. He was golfing out on the island and
I went and had some beers with him and his
buddies and he was awesome. And then I got to
Colorado and he you know, invited me over to his house,

(32:28):
took me to the bar, was inviting me to dinner
and just kind of you know, Paul was a great
leader and he showed me how to operate, and you know,
he was always super hard working, dedicated at the rink,
and then away from the rink, it was you know,
good times and fun and so I'm always grateful to
STATS for that. And then Ryan O'Byrne, a local island guy,

(32:49):
he got traded from Montreal to Colorado, so he he
grabbed me right away, put me next to him on
the plane, and you know, he was a true pro,
but same kind of thing, you know, kind of taught
me how to have fun away from the rink and
be a part of the group and and be a leader.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
So very grateful to those two guys.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I'd love to say I learned how to I'd love
to say I picked up a few things on the
ice from Ryano Burham, but I was, yeah, I still
don't look the other way to follow. Uh, you know,
Wolves is great. And then with Nate, I think Nate
came in he was raw. I met him when he
was seventeen and we roomed together his first year, and

(33:30):
you know, we both had lots to learn. Oh, And
I'd be remiss if I didn't say Ryan o' riiley
as well. He was he was the same age, but
he'd already been in there. Factor was already on the
on the team for two years when I came in,
so he was he felt like a veteran and he uh,
he was one of those guys that you know, we're
the same age. We were good buddies right off the hop.
We both love music and and a couple of pints.

(33:51):
So that was fast friends, easy cam. But yeah, Nate
was uh, you know, Nate was so good when he
got in, and you know, he and then we we
started to have a lot of fun, and I think, uh,
maybe a bit too much. He went away one summer
and came back and it was just dialed.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I think he put up ninety nine points the next year.
He just you know, just kind of flipped the switch
and something clicked where you know, he thought, I think,
you know, I can be a really good player. I
can be a great player. And he made that decision
and he hasn't looked back. So it's been a pleasure
to kind of watch his growth.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I mean, is it true Ryan Factor? I call him
Ryan Factor, but Ryan O'Reilly cares his guitar with him
everywhere he goes on the road. And I was privy
to a few of his his concerts, and.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Well, you took a few of his concerts.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I did I did. Yes, Yes, we had a couple
of nice ones though with him, right. And you know,
how what were some of the bands you guys bonded
over and still bond over because I know, of just
looking through your instagram, you're pretty tight with a few
that you know, the Lumineers and City and Color And
how did those kind of come to be? And how
fun is that, you know, musician athlete relationship that when

(35:04):
it happens, it seems to be these like bonds for life.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, me and me in factor, I think we both
just loved all kind of alternative rock right off the
hop and it was always going in the mornings in
the room, and you know, my morning jacket was a big,
big one. And like you said, City and Color and
Band of Horses and we would cut coffee just we'ld
always try to catch bands when they come through town.
It's such a great way to kind of like disconnect

(35:30):
from the grind of a hockey season, go out and
have a few beers and and catch a live show.
Was kind of our favorite thing to do. So yeah,
that made it. That made it easy. And then as
far as you know, like relationships with artists and stuff,
it's Uh, it's it's really cool because there's a lot
of similarities kind of between what they're doing and what
we're doing. There's a lot of differences as well with

(35:51):
as far as how much structure we have and stuff.
But I think if you're going to be in a
good band and a successful band and one that has
a bit of longevity, it's it's almost like being on
a team. So you need to kind of understand how
everyone operates and what makes them tick and and you
know what's gonna make your your show or your album
and the whole thing as good as it can be.
And there's a lot of bonding that goes on in

(36:14):
those conversations. And yeah, and then just I think also
a love of music and sports, and yeah, they're just
kind of normal people like we are so easy to
easy to have a few beers or a nice bottle
of wine.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
With the girl by City in Color All Time, great
song by.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
The way, fantastic tune. Yeah, Dallas, that's nice to have
you back.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Don't We're gonna edit this part out, so we're gonna
end up your saying that was gone, but I'm saying
the acoustic part and the fast part Dallas Green unbelievable song.
Well then they broke up, so the song is a
more of a heartbreak song regardless. Patrick wwat Tyson, I
want to ask about Patty Wah fiery emotional, Uh, Thomas
Sicky's got great story smith with the Islanders. What was
w like with you?

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Patty was. Patty was great.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
I think his first year we won the division. Things were,
things were awesome. I mean we we had a really
good team, a really good goaltender Varley I think got
snubbed for the Vesna that year, but he was I
mean he was first Star and maybe fifty of our
games he was out of control.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
We were we had a good team, but we weren't
that good.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
We had a really good goalie and we could score,
and Nate was good and we had a really good
uh you know, chemistry.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
The team really really bonded. Patty was. Patty was super passionate. Obviously.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
I found him to be a really good motivator. He'd
get you fired up before games. And that first year
it was fun. You know, we were winning, we were
we were kind of rolling along. We'd he'd go down
to the lobby on kind of a green light night,
and he'd already be there with his duffel bag heading out,
so he kind of understood the program and let us
run a little bit, which was great. And then I think,

(37:48):
obviously we I think we lost to Minnesota that year
in the playoffs. I got a ruthless knee from Matt Cook.
He took a seven game beyond me. I was playing
good hockey, as you always are. Yeah, never played a
bad game ever. And then the next year, I think
we came in and the expectations were really high, you know,
which was a lot different than the year before. And yeah,

(38:11):
he started he started bagging us pretty good, and it was.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Let's say, it wasn't quite as smooth sailing.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
As it was the year before. The the the practices,
you know, I don't think that first year, we you know,
the second half of the year, we were barely on
the ice. It was just play day off, play a
day off, and then it kind of became a play
lose a game, get on the line. Yeah. I got
a little weird there the years two and three, and

(38:38):
then I think he saw the writing on the wall.
We weren't very good, so he kind of he pulled
the pin on himself and.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Then the worst team of all time we put together.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
So I really liked Patty, though I think we uh,
I'm not surely loved my game all the time.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Needless to say, I don't. I didn't love his coaching
all the time.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
So as a as a guy, he was great to
around with and a really good motivator, and I appreciated
my time I spent with Patty.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Listen, speaking of coaches that are great motivators, I mean,
you had a little touch with Mike Babcock in twenty nineteen,
you go to Toronto, I mean, and then also that year,
you know, it's the COVID season, So talk a little
bit about that change going from Colorado, which you know,
I consider Colorado that like medium sized market just because
of the success they've had now. But you know, Toronto

(39:31):
is just a different world. And how was that? You know,
obviously just sitting in with Mike Babpok and that Toronto
team that you know, it was a little bit of
a helter skelter year there.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Yeah, for all was a weird one.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I mean, that was my first first trade, which is
always tough to kind of you know, you play somewhere.
I was almost five hundred games in Colorado, and then
you know, you get dealt and it's all flipped on
its head. So I come in and I wouldn't say
it was a soft landing for sure. I kind of,
you know, I had a meeting with Babs and he
kind of told me Morgan Riley was here and I

(40:04):
here and he and he wasn't sure what he was
going to do with me. And that was my one
of my first meetings with.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Them, and I was the best conversations ever.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, I called my dad after I said, hey, I'm
in one. My god, Well, sure enough, it didn't that's
I'm not going to sit here and bag on Babs.
I think that's happened a lot over the last little while.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
But yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
It was a tough transition. But I mean, I love
the guys in Toronto. What a great organization. They treat
you like gold. I made some you know, friends for
life there, and the coaching change happened. I started to
play a little better hockey and and got some got
some looks, and then COVID hit and shut us down
and then we went into that weird bubble and the
Toronto year was eventful, really really eventful. Year, but you

(40:52):
know it was it was fun to be a leaf.
And I think a lot of people still you know
know who I am because I was a leaf for
one weird year, So it's it's cool.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah, sometimes it happens that way, Tyson. This is kind
of a random question, but I remember, you know, when
your dad partnered with Orring Coolish course land Burier dad
to buy the Lightning the year before you were drafted.
And I remember if the whole Barry Melros experience haven't
worked at es Pandean Barry Melris a bit like it's
very rare and only coaches get fired, players get traded,
and you just took the high road. Things happen to
move on. But like Melars was so blunt, it's just like,

(41:22):
I don't care. I'll never coach again. I'll work with
those guys. That was obviously something that stuck out. But
what do you remember from that experience, any advice that
your dad gave you?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Loaded He's always given me lots of advice, Very very
grateful for my dad's hand he's had in my career.
He's been super supportive, gave me every opportunity and coached
me all through minor hockey and then you know, kind
of guided me through junior and obviously him buying a
team while I was in junior was an interesting, interesting

(41:52):
path that was kind of made waves. But yeah, I
remember he was he owned the team when you know,
I was drafted and he called me from the draft
for and said, hey, I just like, I know you
told me not to pick you, but like, I'm here
with all of our scouts. You're the next guy on
our list, Like, let us take you. That's pretty cool

(42:13):
that yeah, yeah, it was like late second round. He's like, hey,
Tyst like, I'm not it has nothing to do with me.
You're the next guy on our scouts list, like, and
I said that, I'm like, please, please do not take me.
I'm like, I am, I worked really hard and I
think I'm close, Like please just like let me do
this on my own.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
And so they didn't take me.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
And then I went, you know, maybe eight picks later
or something to the abs. But yeah, that was a
that was an odd time for sure. There was a
lot of moving parts in that one.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
How was it being in the room with Peter Warrel?
Was it? Oh? Yeah, something that was.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Was all time.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
When I was a young young guy in Florida. I
pretty much lived at the rink with my dad and
he was awesome to me. He'd picked me up and
throw me in the laundry machine and he was just great,
a lot of fun to be around.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's interesting when you look back at your career and like,
you know, certain memories of players you played with. We
focused a lot of the guys that you were with
and stories like that. But Tyson, for you, like, what's
a memory that will always stick out? Something unforgettable. It
doesn't have to be a goal or assist. Perhaps it
is like, what's a moment that you you know what,
that's something I can always take pride and that I
can sleep well.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
At night, you know what I think.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
It's honestly, it's it's just as simple as my I
remember my first NHL game and then how nervous I
was played the Blackhawks when they were on an absolute heater,
they had all the big dogs there. I was so nervous.
I didn't calm down the entire game. But after the
game I went to dinner, a late dinner with my
parents in Denver, and it was just kind of like

(43:46):
I'll always remember that feeling, you know, like I made
it and it was really cool. My parents were really proud,
and it was just, you know, there was the very
beginning of the journey and something that will stick with
me and just kind of that, you know, you know,
I did it, and there was one game or whatever.
I didn't know what was in stores still, but it was.
It was just that first time playing in the NHL

(44:08):
was very substantial.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Did it. You know, I'd say a lot of the
memories were shared. I was kind of looking through your stories.
You and Leon were kind of dry citle, we're messing around.
I think Leon probably did one of the best congratulating
guys retiring I've ever seen with you, I mean talk
about Leon playing with him. I mean, you once said
one of the funniest things I've heard in the league

(44:33):
is you were like, and I think Leon was there
when I had this small tryout in Edmonton. You were like,
Leon's probably one of the best players in the world
when he's on, and you're probably one of the worst
players when you're off. And just your relationship with him
and how you kind of pushed each other.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yeah, I mean, I love Leon. He's got an incredible
sense of humor. Obviously, we don't need to talk about
how good of a player is it was, It's pretty evident.
But yeah, he can, I mean he is, he can
is he can be the best player in the world
one night and then he can just lay one of
the biggest eggs you've ever seen.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
And and well, the thing.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I love about it most is he'll when he's not
feeling it because some of the plays he makes that
make him the best or you know, they're the backhand,
no looks through the slot, they're the they're high risk
and they I mean credit to him. More than often
they work out. But when he is not feeling it,
he is not not trying those plays. He's going to
continue to throw backhands up the middle that are gonna

(45:30):
get back to.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah, imagine we're not feeling it tonight, up the middle
every time.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Up the gut, up the gut, turnover, turnover. No, it's
it's fun to be able to joke with him, and
then you know his I love his approach. When he
does lay an egg like that, he you know, gets
on the plane or whatever and opens a beer and
just has a laugh, moves on and next night he
goes out and him and Connor have six points combined
or something stupid.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
So, yeah, Leon's a really good pal of mine.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
He's a he's a great a great player and a
guy with a great sense of humor.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
So it's nice to uh, nice to be able to
poke at each other a bit.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Speaking of having a beer, what can tell us about
chili ones? Oh, I can tell you.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Yeah, let me ruthlessly plug it.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
No, it's just chili ones is an idea that came
from just that's what we called beers when I was
in Colorado. It's what we call beers in Edmonton. Kind
of took on a life of its own, and Edmonton
guys were just screaming chili ones at each other before
the game and just dumb stuff like that. So I
just put it in my notes, it'd be fun to
do a beer with my friends called chili ones and

(46:31):
drink our own beer. And we kind of did it.
So I think there's about eighteen active and former NHL
guys in on it, and it's a lot of fun.
I'm really enjoying the beverage industry. Every meeting starts with
the beer, ends with a beer. Everyone's generally happy, so
it's right up my alley.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah, how you have eighteen guys on board? How long
have you How long have you been? How long did
you start it? Ago? Yeah, guys, how long ago did
you start it? And where are you at with it?

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Hanging there.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
I go there about two years ago, kind of like concept.
It was pretty quick to get it into a can
and get the I had a pretty good idea of
what I wanted it to look like. And we've been innovating,
you know, the last six months or so, doing some
different things, just kind of finding our feet in the
beverage industry. But yeah, it's it's been about two years

(47:23):
and we're about to launch kind of a bigger launch
in Alberta, BC, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and we're running some pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
Campaigns with some cool people that I won't announce yet.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
But yeah, we're doing a lot of stuff on the
non out side too, which is great.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
It's me, so just you guys know, it's me. What's uh,
what's been the most challenging thing about this You've seen
that's like kind of just you were like, oh shit,
I didn't even know this.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Would Oh there's a there's like a oh shit moment
every day on the business side, I am. I got
my grade twelve and it was sort of handed to
me because I was a good hockey player, So I
am not. I don't have a college degree or anything
like that. So I'm learning the business side of things.
But the surprising thing I think is just you know, people,
you have to have the right people. It's not it's

(48:10):
not any different than I think building a winning team.
You've got to have the right people in place. And
you know, we've gone through some changes of people, which
has been interesting for me, So I think the business
world is a little more cutthroat than i'd realize. So yeah,
it's yeah, yeah, just learning, you know, not to trust everybody.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah. I mean I've been building a business for two
years as well, and it's exactly all those things. We
weren't mood lighting as ves. Oh and I gotta deal
with av every day, so building that shit is is difficult,
dealing with people, but you can't just rely on you know,
making a breakout pass and having a good game. It's
it's a lot more. It's not as black and white

(48:51):
as hockey, I find. But speaking of other skills, I mean,
you weren't mood lighting as a CEO, but you also
weren't moodlighting as a skateboard efficient on. Yeah, so tell
me about that. You picked that back up A couple kickflips,
a couple, allis what's going on there? I thought you'd
just be a finger skateboard guy, but it Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah, no, I was a big tech decker back in
the day, but no deck. I grew up skateboarding.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
I grew up skateboarding, snowboarding, you know, wakeboarding, all that
kind of stuff. Was that was honestly my favorite thing
to do. And hockey got serious, so I did kind
of tuck it away. And over the years, I've always
wanted to skateboard, and I just never have. I've never
allowed myself to own a skateboard because I know that
I would probably break my ankle or do something stupid.

(49:37):
So upon retirement, I immediately grabbed a skateboard because I
miss it and I love it, and yeah, it's fun
to mess around a little bit without like the the
overarching theme of if you hurt yourself, you're probably in one.
So yeah, I'm just kind of going to do some
things that are a little more high risk that I
haven't been able to do.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
The last fourteen years.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
We just found your next sports venture, skateboarding.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
This is the next frontier, right, Yeah, I'm not exactly
like I don't have the build for the five ten
two ten isn't exactly the ideal skateboarder build.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
So I'm just gonna, i think, have some fun with it.
I'm gonna get up in the mountains do some snowboarding.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
But yeah, I'm I'm probably a little heavy to take
skateboarding anywhere and a little old. But I did get
in the gym the last two days, so I'm tightening.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, it's still looking great. Tyson Barrier, this was a
ton of fun, man, Seriously, congrats and a wonderful NHL career.
You're a great storyteller, obviously a great guy, and I
appreciate the entrepreneurial spirit along with the self deprecation. Nothing
wrong with a grade twelve education. I see bright things
ahead for Chili ones and skateboarding and all the rest
of it. Again, congratula in your family having two little ones.
Like you said, it's good to have your priority straight.
Thanks so much, dude, really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
Yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks Shady, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Guys, all right, PINCHASKI you're on the clock. I read book.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Your book.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
You gotta read mine. Centophile is now out available wherever
bookstores are selling it. You can go online Amazon to
Mango Publishing Group dot com. Quite frankly, I get more
money from there, So please go to Mango Publishing Group
dot com. You don't go to Amazon.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Law.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
I'll appreciate that. Bezos will appreciate those dollars coming his way.
Barnes and Noble chapters back Home, North of the Border chapter.
Nothing like a little book tour. I think I've done
about nine podcasts now, and I got to tell you,
like my friends have come through. Ryan Rosillo is the
Tim Kirschens. I reached out the Buster only said Ya'll
have you on Dan Lebutard this week. David Samson. Everyone's
were really good. But sometimes a rando is surprise you, JD.

(51:30):
I've had more than a few guys just be me
and I'm like, listen, if you want me in your podcast,
if you buy the book, if there's proof of purchase,
you have me. So I did one guys yesterday it
was okay. I was like, I don't he bought the
book because he was on his on the shelf. Maybe
ask My wife said, maybe he'll return it. That could
be true, but the questions are like very broad. It
was kind of like, hey, have you seen Happy gil
Moore two? And I'm like, no, I haven't. No, Like

(51:52):
I think if you know me and my movies, I'm
not rouses happy to go more too. No, He's like, oh, man,
Sailor's awesome. I go met him once, super nice guy,
Love uncut Gems. I'll tell that story. I said. He
was at the screening for it. My buddy Ben Lyons
Sadler walked around efforts. I told him, man, I love
Punch Drunk Love, which is kind of my way saying
I'm not a big fan of yours because everyone else
mentions the water boy Billy Madison, and I'm like, yeah,
I don't like that stuff. I like this stuff when

(52:13):
you're different, like you actually acted with Paul Thomas Anderson.
So I love Punchrick Love and on cut Jimps is
a great movie. Benny Saftie comes around the director and
I go, hey, man, how have a movie. You're a
real tyg It's got one thing is yeah, I go,
there's what a mistake in the movie. He's like what
face already turning white? And Ben lines like, you can't.
I know, I'm going, I said. Sandler goes upstairs and
he comes downstairs. He's watching the NBA game. He goes, say,
I put ESPN back on. I go, it's a Western

(52:35):
Conference game. That's TNT. It's Kevin Harlan's voice. He literally
pulls the phone out and like, here's the time going
to watching the thousand and Ben's gonna be like, why
did you say this? Like I work at the Pin,
I'm Tonney right now. There's no like Eastern Conferences like
you know, Celtics, Cavs, Mike Driek. I'm like Western's always
going around SAFTI sees his like, ah fuck fuck, it's

(52:56):
like this guy just said the premiere. But Jemps, you ruined.
I didn't ruin this night. He can fix it. He goes,
I don't think he can.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
He was.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
This is not one of those fixing postings. They go,
they can fix that. They didn't fix it, and somebody
did pick it up. So where they did give me credit,
They go, Adnamberg was the person that noticed blah blah
blah blah. Anyways, happy come more to I didn't see
But one guy was great though Chills with Will podcasts.
I gotta thank him, dude. He read the entire book.
The interview was awesome. He was like, hey, page two
twenty one, Deckloge, I go, now, this is what I'm
talking about. When I had an aufor on, I made

(53:22):
sure I read the book. When somebody actually does the
prep work, it's so nice. So I want to just
say thank you to Frank Thanking all the people out
there who had bought the book and enjoyed it, and
a few people I have strong armed at work. They've
done it. I appreciate them taking it along the way
as tal Will as well as first in the f
on sixty f one watchually with my wife my sister
in law again, as I said to him, like they're

(53:42):
just gonna watch it for Brad Pitt being shirtless, which
is okay. I can get over that. My wife fell
a seeve after about thirty minutes, just a lot punted
about halfway through we started that maybe, I mean we
were in San Jose, so it's probably I don't know,
ten thirty, but we were on West Coast time at
that point, and as my sister law was leaving on
what do you think so far? She's like, Eh, I go, yeah,
I really don't like these movies. I said, you know,
there's just so formulaic. I said, it's fine. I go,

(54:05):
I'm enjoying the experience. I'm going to watch it kind
of like as JD SAIDs a good popcorn movie, but
I can't call it a good movie. Like to me,
I'm like, I've seen this movie so many times. Veteran guy,
young guy, he's cocky, love interest, different accents, different people,
different nationalities, And the main thing I have when I'm
watching it, you know, rad pits such a talented actor,
and how have you ever been such a talented actor.
They're just just clearly taking a paycheck like it's fine.

(54:27):
I guess if that's life these days, nobody gives a
shit about movies. You're gonna give you ten million dollars
in Go. But I'm like, even the driving scenes you did,
because I would have said, oh, you know, the driving
scenes will be awesome, and they're well shot, well done,
but they're so choreographed in that it's like POV shot,
watch POV shot well, Like I could already cut it
the way I know they're gonna cut it like, it's
just so that I did not get to run watching

(54:47):
Driven as you had suggested to see what a copy.
But please please tell me what is the scene in
F one that's completely ripping off Driven, because then I'll
go look it up.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Well, it's it's the last scene and when they ask
him like, hey, like when everything's kind of working for you,
Yeah what and he goes, there's like a silence in it,
and then oh yeah yeah, and then Driven and then
Driven it's he goes when he starts humming. It's when
he's in the flow state. And at the end of

(55:16):
the movie when he goes to like win or you know,
finished second third, whatever you want to do it, it's
that same setup where he starts humming and like, oh
my god, he's back. And then with Brad Pitt, it's
like the same thing he has. It's seen where like
all of a sudden he locks in that's a perfect lap.

(55:37):
Yeah yeah, he's flying. Is that like perfect lap? And
that's just where it was. I mean, the whole thing
is very deriven derived from that. Well yeah, derive derived
from that last one. And I just kind of was like,
it's fun, it's exciting. I love Hans Zimmer the score
was good. I'm glad you Hans Zimmer is is my guys.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Looks beautiful like you can.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
It's a popcorn movie, like I said, was I wrong?

Speaker 1 (56:04):
No, but I'm glad you boot of the theaters to
see it, like tal her bullshit, like got I get
out there. I'm like, hey, I'm glad of I just
I've got my sister WI up eight twenty bucks. We've
watched Rentic because I go I wouldn't have been happy
watching the theaters.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
I started. I started watching Eddington.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Oh? I love the way it shot. I love it.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
We're in let's go good antidote to the summer blockbusters,
A good covid believe to pissed people. Offer the liberal
jokes you're gonna love.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
It's hilarious. The best part of it is the Black
Lives Matter sequence. I'm like, oh my god, oh my god,
what was it? The anti white or the you can't
say anti whiter. Anyway, when we looked at the reviews,
it was like two point eight and I kind of
look at my wife and I'm like, I guarantee you
it's it's like people that watched it that are like

(56:52):
pissed off at you know, the liberal the jokes at
the left side. But they make fun of both sides,
make fun of the right just as much as they
do the left.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
That's why I love South Park, Bigger, Longer, Uncut movie.
They took as many shots as the left at the right,
but like they're like, that's that's Shit's hilarious. Look, we're
just going after Altar.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
If they're both, it's all. It's all the sickness both sides.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
As you said to me, once you go, they all
watch your money, and I go, that's.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
That.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
That's why George Carlin was the best, because I don't
like any group of more than three because because then
they get a hat, then they get a button. They
all want you to be on their siding. Is now
I'm not George carl in the classic iconic class tell.
I did see How I to Lowest. I thought it
was terrific. I really enjoyed it. I was so happy
to see a Spike Lee joint back in theaters again.
Was busy with the fam vacation, et cetera. But I said, no,
I'm not waiting to Apple. Plus, I want to support

(57:41):
movies in theaters, so the movie is gonna be out
this weekend on Apple Plus. I was able to get
out to the Regal and Seacaucus, eight minutes from where
me and JD worked to.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Watch the movie.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
I thought I had spikes visual panache to it. I
thought Denzel was terrific. It was so good to see
the United I'm with you completely on New York as
a character. You know, Darren aaron Oski's in the new
movie out, Which'm going to try to see cott stealing.
I mentioned to the scimitar for Maddie Leebatique, who was
shot reckon for a Dream. He did Spike's latest, so
he can definitely sense Aaron offs He spiked both great
New York directors. The set piece, as I told you,
my favorite part was that whole Yankee Stadium trip, which

(58:11):
you had mentioned when Turro Yell's the camera Boston sucks
beautifully shot again like in the Krusawa version. That's like
a real centerpiece movie. So I'm glad the way that
Spike was able to re envision it. It's a little long.
I would have edited a little bit differently, but I
thought overall it was an enjoyable film, and it's nice
to see a great actor director team up again. Good
supporting cast. Jeffrey rd I always loved man. He's fantastic.

(58:33):
Denzel's wife. Wow, he's doing well for himself, both on
Cameron off and I thought overall it was definitely an
enjoyable movie. It didn't. One of my friends a little
bit harsh on it. He goes, I couldn't get over
to the fact teal. He goes, this guy supposed to
be like a Barry Gordy music impressario. I'm like, yeah,
just the plot real simple for everyone.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
He goes.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
He thinks his son gets kidnapped, but instead it's his
friend's son who's kidnapped, and he's faced with this moral dilemma.
Should he put up seventeen point five million dollars and
basically risk his own empire because he's trying to make
a takeover, he's not liquid at the time, etc. Close friend,
et cetera. But like, where's the world a little bit? Lie?
My buddy said to be Tally goes, this guy is
an F seventeen and a half million dollars, like around

(59:11):
if you're that rich, And I said, wow, I don't.
He's a music executive was once big. He's not as
big as he once was. Did you have any issue
with that?

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Well, first off, spoiler alerts for anyone listening, obviously, But well,
I think part of part of that is because he's
and this is in the first minutes well forty five maybe,
but yeah, I see what you're saying. But I think
the reason he hesitates is because, remember, he has like
this big business deal that he's trying to close, right,
and he's kind of like leveraging all his assets in

(59:41):
this one big business deal, and then he has to
fork over a ransom for a kid that's not his kid.
And yeah, so I think they're that that that's why
there's that interesting dilemma that he faces there. Yeah, I
didn't mention Jeffrey right before when I talked about he's great.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
I did.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
I don't know if I've seen has he been with
Denzel and anything before? I thought they were so good together,
as like their buddies, right, their buddies from like back
in the day, who has to maintained their friendship for decades,
And they were excellent together.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
I really like them totally.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
I remember you saying that you thought that your buddy
who sought with thought that Spike made some interesting choices.
I wanted to guess which one of them is, because
I for this to be quote an interesting choice, which
is a negative way of saying crazy about it. A
lot of orchestral music, particularly in the first forty five minutes,
was that what he was talking about, because I was like, man,
you got to tone down the score a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
His words were literally in the middle of the movie,
this score is killing me, he said. But Spike does
that a lot. You'll see he has a lot In
a lot of his films, he has these huge orchestral
numbers that suddenly come in. You're like, I don't know
if this is the right time for I mean, you know,
if you really want to get into the weeds and
you want to put your movie nerd hat on. I
sometimes you hear it like, I don't know if this

(01:00:50):
is the right time for a big, sweeping orchestral number.
It just doesn't quite fit. But Spike does that a lot.
He's clearly a big fan. And I thought it was
the same composer, but it turns out it's not. It's
this composer on highest to lowest. I think it's his
first time working with Spike, so yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Will say again spoiler alert asap. Rocky is really good
in the film. I thought that scene Tala is probably
my favorite scene when they go a little monoy monol
there in the recording studio.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
By the way, you mentioned Jeff Right Denzel worked together
in The Manchurian Candidate in two thousand and four, but
this is the first time they worked together, and Spike
and Denzel first time since Inside Man back in two
thousand and six. I would say he got game is
definitely better. But this was definitely an enjoyable film and
I definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Think people will check it out on the Shuttles.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Jesus Solver awesome. Denzel really going out him in that
basketball game. At the end, he said he worked for
like months, like he was like, I'm not gonna let
Ray Allen towards you, and he kept telling Yal, I'm
not very good going to my left, and first thing
he went to his left up the basket and then
he had another hoop and round was like, okay, it's
fucking on it because Denzel was not supposed to get
any baskets. And then Roy Allen took him for the
Winds set at Denzel. I'm getting a couple of baskets

(01:01:57):
of this kid, Graham Green, real quick, great Cadan actors,
seventy three years of age. You know, one of the
great indigenous actors, the guy really putative American and Native
Canadian actors on the map, was brilliant and dances with wolves,
reservation dogs, etc. Just wanted to give a quick shut
to him. Great, terrific Meadian actor passed me a season.
Some posts there, but some of us were particularly obviously,
like I said, dances with wolves great, great chemistry with

(01:02:17):
Kevin Coster. All right, you know my doppelganger Chris Jellios
on Instagram. Great pick the post, as tal puts, it
was a little bit cryptic. Now I know you are
a man of a thousand interests. You've talked about your
burgeoning businesses. You've talked about having interests away from the
game while still being very connected to hockey, NHL network, etc.
But as you posted something special, it's been cooking for
over a year. Amazing to finally filmed the pilot. Big

(01:02:40):
things to my idea writing part Jillian Miller. Of course,
your wife for helping envision this big things to my
musing partner, the chef's name Chris say I believe for
jumping in head first age Yes, amazing work by Banner
Studios helping throughout this whole process. And the special things too,
Chris Chellio's for being a test dummy for this madness.
His tequila's absolute fire should be flying off the shelves.

(01:03:00):
As I immediately posted, happy to help.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
What can you tell me? This an amazing post too,
because it's so funny how I like, I completely forgot
and then as soon as I'm like, oh my god,
I can't get away from bad Denver.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
I kind of wrote this. Came up with this idea
kind of when I a little bit after I retired,
just on the creative side of things, I wanted to
kind of merge food in sport, which it is such
a big part of it, but also just more specifically
around pregame meal. I think pregame meal is something every
athlete eats. I know, it's something every athlete eats, and

(01:03:39):
it's such a big part of the fuel that kind
of drives the ship, so to speak, in your game
and how good of a game or bad of a
game can hinge on what you're eating, whether you're fatigued,
brain fog. It's all tied to food. And my friend
Chris Sage, who is just an amazing chef in La
we met during COVID. Just after COVID, he came and

(01:04:03):
did like a big home He does these like Michelin
star meals at your house. So I had a bunch
of the guys on the team come. He flew in
cooks in your kitchen. We stayed connected. I said, hey,
I want you to be a part of this. I
want to take guys pregame meals and elevate them. And
then as we're elevating them and you're making this amazing
pregame meal that's like worthy of a Michelin Star, you know,

(01:04:28):
Dish one star, two stars, two stars, whatever you come
up with. And we're just going to talk to the
athletes about kind of food in their life and food
and sport and how it's evolved, how their pregame meals evolved.
So we had Chris Chillio's came on and it was
really cool. It's just you know, like I'm really into
getting layers to athletes and because I always consider myself,

(01:04:49):
it wasn't what defined me. It's it's what I did.
And I think anytime I can talk to guys about
their other interest it really gets me excited because it's
just like I just think it's something that fans don't know,
and they know it's for this specific thing that we do,
which is which is hockey baseball. But the thing that
people don't realize is once it's over, it's such a

(01:05:12):
tiny you know. I had somebody say the other day,
it's just a grain of sand in an hour glass,
and it's one grain of sand. Your professional sports career,
the rest of your life. Two thirds is what's important,
all of your other things, your interests, your family. So
we just kind of touch on that and touch on
guys is you know, how food relates to their life.
And it was really good. It was really fun. Something

(01:05:34):
we kind of put together, Me and my wife and
I kind of came up the idea and just kind
of was shopping it around and we got Chris Chillios
and now we're trying to kind of put a sALS
a real together and maybe create a series on either
YouTube or or sell it somewhere. So it's just we
also don't want to do just NHL. We're trying to

(01:05:55):
do all sports, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I love it. Pilets in the cans seeking distribution. Hopefully
more coming soon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah, and I would.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I always think it's fascinating because, like with athletes just said,
you know, there's such well conditioned people and they're so
fixing in certain things and can be not hypochondriacs, but
certainly creatures of habits. So I'm with you, like and
the way that it's evolved that they could be fascinating.
I think if you talk to like former athletes, you
know what they ate back in the day and how
it's changed and what it's like. It's constantly evolving, and
as you said, it's more than just food. It's also

(01:06:23):
the other interests, et cetera. It's hope you love to
Ian Hap, one of our favorite guests because he's asked
as a podcast, loves coffee. Like as you said, everyone
has more interests and some guys are not as willing
to divulge like everyone. I interviewed Connor McDavid, like he
clearly is more than Connor McDavid, but like he just
wants to talk hockey, and I'm like, I get that.
Certain guys just don't want to divulge any of their life.
Dog's wife fix whatever your interests are, Like, no, I'm

(01:06:44):
just want to talk hockey. That's and the hockey answers
were fine. But some guys, I think, like you said,
in certain venues are happy to discuss or other interests,
other pursuits. And food's a big part of it, man,
like you're fuel. If it's on, there's a big reason why.
It's part of your success.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
And if it's off, you shit yourself. What happens to Bava,
which I've done before.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Look forward to more uh more of those episodes hopefully
coming down the pike. Last one. Tampa Bay Lightning mascot
Thunderbird recently spotted throwing down against a little kid in
a youth hockey game. You got to hang out one
of the NHL's best mascots, I think in Sharky. Any
favorite memories of Sharky.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
I mean anytime anytime like a mascot, like you start
talking with him or you know, you're just on the
side and you're like, hey, how you doing, and they're
just like, oh fucking exhausted. The human side of that, Yeah,
it's so funny to me and being like, how you
doing in there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
The raptor's basket. We're having a conversation. His helmet, for
lack of a better term, is off and we're talking
just stick in the hallway exactly saying, oh yeah, wife
drenched and sweat. I'm like, yeah, it doesn't sane what
you're doing. Like you're just like, you know, flying off trampolinees,
dunking basketballs while dress is a dinosaur, like a modern
day Barney and as I feel like he's a christicles
to have a smoke and just start talking about he's

(01:08:00):
gonna hit the strip club. It's like, oh hey, I
gotta go, like because then a kid is gonna be
around the corner. Like the scariest thing to these guys
is being seen with a thread petrify.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Did did you see the Orgon Ducks mascot the Oregon
Ducks one? Just recently he came out of the tunnel
and fell and his helmet popped off for the opening
and he's he's just like he's like he looks like
he's covering himself with secret service so like he doesn't
get sniped running back into the tunnel because like, oh
God forbid that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I've asked if you're like the ballgame, but.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
It's it's just so funny. It's that is an interesting one,
an interesting thought of actually interviewing some of those guys,
but like while they're in costume and just having like
an in depth interview with talking about his life growing
up and we'll cut you into being a mascot and
oh yeah, and the Cardinals sense because you're right, like
they take that off. People don't realize they are pissing sweat.

(01:09:00):
Oh it is so hot. They're running around. I'm like,
that is such a demanding job for one hundred bucks
a game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
That's that's the other person. They're getting dirt, Like these
guys are not getting Some get a lot though some
of them. The Philly fanatic has to be rich. The
San Diego Chicken of course back in the day. And
the one that I think is like totally loaded is
the gorilla with the Phoenix Suns, because that guy's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Oh yeah, he does flips back flip.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Not playing in the league, He's gonna be at least
in the de league.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
This guy's he could be in the deal League easily, right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I'd rather be the gorilla man behind the mask well
unmasked the Gorilla. Next time, perhaps HL unscripted. Thanks for
hanging it out. Thanks for j D and Teal for
their patients in my audio. Thanks to Tyson Berry for
his patience. Thanks to all of you for listening. Lots
more coming down the pike. Look forward to chatting next time.

(01:09:57):
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