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0:00 - Falcons defeat Steelers, Falcons have a Kyle Pitts problem?9:21 - Shedeur Sanders wins first career start35:24 - Bengals take another L44:12 - Chiefs beat Colts in OT53:51 - 49ers hang on vs Panthers on MNF
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Falcons got on the winning track, Ohoe, by scoring twenty
four to ten over the New Orleans Saints. Kurt First
Cousin sixteen or twenty three one ninety nine, two touchdowns,
one pick.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
He was sacked three times.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
B Jon Robinson had fourteen carries for seventy yards, as
Jerira had twelve or forty four twenty nine carries.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
A buck twenty one.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Mooney has three catches, had a big touchdown over the
top forty nine yards one touchdown.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Ojo.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I watched this game, see just the way this one
game I ain't get to see. It was only so
many TVs out there.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, Chad, if you're a Falcons fan, you know what
I'm about to say is true. Happen Kyle Piss seen
you dropping too many passes? Oh shoe? He he just
I don't know what it is. I don't know what
it is. I mean, he just dropped it. I'm talking
about routine stuff. I'm not talking about no acrobatic catches
where you got to go up. I'm talking about stuff
hitting him dead in his hands. I'm talking about over
the shoulder stuff. He's and he's too talented. He's as
(01:01):
talent of a tight end receiving tight end that I've
seen come out the draft. He's supposed to be brock Bowers.
He's supposed to be McBride. That's what he's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Dropping him clean, clean, clean, hold on.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You talk about clean like contested catches.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
No, he dropping the routine stuff, hitting them in the chance.
Ain't nobody right now? No, he just dropping them, damn.
And I just thought, I just knew this was gonna
be the year that, you know, he shows everybody why
he was a top five pick.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
He went in front of Chase. Yeah, he was number four. Huh.
It's just it's I just I don't know what it is.
I don't know what it is. I just I did.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I did not even vision, especially come off the season
that he had as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Way he went over a thousand yards.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yep, I just knew it, like, Okay, the sky's the limited,
this is gonna be And it just it just hadn't
it just hadn't clicked, just hadn't clicked. Jackson Smith and
Jigba had another awesome day. Oh Jo eight catches a
buck sixty seven against the Titans. He has thirteen hundred
and thirteen receiving yards. He broke a DK's record that
(02:28):
he set in twenty twenty. DK did that in sixteen games.
He's broken the record in eleven games. Smith In Jigba
is on first on pace to become the first player
with two thousand receiving yards in a single season.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
If there's a player that should get it, if there's
a player that the NFL and the team and the
powers that be that control everything, he's one of the
ones you want to do it. He's one of the
players you want to allow to be able to break
that record. Jays Sid is having one hell of a season.
He's having one hell of a season. And the fact
that he's continuing exactly what he started at Ohio State.
(03:08):
We saw him in the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Go for what two eighty, No, he went for three?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
He did, he went for three something and coming to
the NFL, most of the time it's a hit and
miss when it comes to receivers.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But for him to show.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That not only did that do in college, but hold on,
hold my beer, I'm gonna give it to you in
the NFL two every week, not just one week and
then you go missing for two or three weeks. But
I'm talking about back to back to back, and it's
a testament to not only the quarterback but the play
calling that continuously puts him in position to be able
to make these plays and create mismatches so he can
(03:43):
do exactly what he's doing. Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
The Tennessee. Yeah, the Seattle win.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
They moved to eight and three thanks to a thirty
twenty four victory over the Tennessee Titans. Sam Donald was
sixteen to twenty six two forty four, two touchdown. Kenneth
Walker had eleven carris for seventy one one yard. They
had twenty rushers one hundred and fourteen yards one touchdown.
Sharping up, but it was Jackson Smith and Jigba eight
catches a buck sixty seven two touchdowns. They had sixteen
(04:11):
or sixteen completions for two hundred and forty four yards. Man,
he cooked, folks, I mean complete, I mean he is.
He's so smooth.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Man.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I've seen silk. That wasn't that smooth? Don't Joe that joker? Man?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Good God amighty? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Cut he cutting up now?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah? Bad?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
He cutting up? And it don't you know what the
funny thing about it is, it don't matter who it is.
You think, Okay, maybe you're playing against bad defenses, maybe
playing against bade.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It don't matter.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Everybody getting that work, everybody getting that there, everybody. So
don't know about the old man. I locked not this year.
There might be a time down the road that you
say I locked him up. We got this year his
own one. I want to see him get two thousand.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Once you get into a rhythm like this, ain't no
stopping and the play calling is gonna always continue to
be in your favor just so you can get that record.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Ask nobody, is he gonna be the MVP if you
get two thousand yards? No, because somebody had to throw
him the ball that got him two thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, that is true.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So Matthew Stafford right now, I think Matthew Stafford has
a stranglehold. Now I will say this, if Miles Garrett
was on a winning team doing what he's doing, he
would get serious, serious, serious consideration, iteration.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, hands down, hands down, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Because I'm talking about I mean, he might he might be.
Like I said, I think he's gonna be the first
defensive player to win Defensive Player of the Year that's
on a losing squad since qure Tess Kennedy did it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
M hm, oh shit, but can you see me? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I see you now like you hold on, I hit
the wrong button on my computer. Man, Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
But Smith and jig but is having an unbelievable season,
and it's it's it's a pleasure to watch him, watch
him go to work. And it doesn't matter. They see
you too, oh Joe. Okay, the Jags beat the Cardinals
in overtime. We had a couple of overtime games today.
I thought we might get another one with the Cowboys
(06:22):
and the Eagles, but hey, the Cowboys walk it off
thanks to Brandon Aubrey's a forty two yard field goal.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
But we did get two overtime games.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We got Detroit and the Giants, and we got this
one right here, the Jags and the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
As Trevor Lawrence was.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Eighteen to thirty two fifty six, three touchdowns, three picks
and a fumble, so they got four turnovers.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Damn. The Cardinals got four turnovers and still and still
and still lost.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Hey Jacobe with Dylan though Brack.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Oh yeah, thirty three or forty nine three seventeen one touchdown.
Michael ojo again. You see what he did. Now he
get a big play. He spinned the ball. Ball here
his foot rolled to the end. So now he got
to go get it. Now he got to come back
and try to find the official. You see, bro, Come
(07:21):
on man, y'all, come on now, come on, bro, there's
a time of the place to celebrate you down. Why
are you spinning the ball? Do you not understand situational football?
In that situation? Spinning the football? This is not the
first quarter, this is not the second quarter, Bro, This
is over.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
This is over. Time.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
No excite, ah my gosh, he's excited to make them plays.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Hunh.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But you got you gotta know, you got you gotta
be you got you gotta you gotta be away your situations.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The time you remember you remember Pittsburgh, the guy Clayborne,
what what was it? Take lay the receiver from to day.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
They caught the ball and he caught the ball in
Minnesota Chase Claypool and started celebrating on Yoe t.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Time going down.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yes, but I'm looking I'm like I'm just oh, I'm
just looking at him. I'm looking at him like this
here come here, you come. See back of the old
when we played on you you do some like that.
Come in, son, come in.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
No now, if he hasn't already, he'll apologize. Yeah, he apologized, like, look,
I just can't do that. Valuable time is off the clock.
Oh Joe, you got the ball, Just get the ball,
go back. You saved ten seconds seconds.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, handed to the rest, you handed to the ref.
You get even more time on the clock.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But the Jags went to score in overtime twenty seven
to twenty. Even though Arizona takes the ball away four times,
they still lose the game. The Browns beat the Las
Vegas Raiders by the score of twenty four to ten.
(09:30):
Shador Sanders became the forty second quarterback to start a
game for the Browns since they came back into the
league in nineteen ninety nine. He also became the first
Browns quarterback to win his first career start in the
NFL since Eric Zire did it back in nineteen ninety five.
The victory ended a seventeen game losing streak for Browns
(09:50):
in games in which the quarterback was making their first
career start. That was the longest streak by any franchise
since nineteen fifty when quarterbacks start were first recorded. The
wins snapped their thirteen game road losing streak for the Browns,
which was also the longest active streak in the NFL
and their second longest enfranchise history. Shador was eleven of
(10:12):
twenty two hundred and nine yards with one touchdown and
an interception. He was, look, they didn't run the football
worth nothing. Twenty seven rushes sixty seven yards for Ochoe
his ability and he's looking the thing that you have
to like about him. He's looking to push the ball
down the field. He realized, I don't catch big fishing
around the shore. I need to cast way out there.
(10:36):
You see he rolls out of the pocket, frozen over
the top. He's gonna give those guys an opportunity to
make plays. I was very impressed with him, and I
know what everybody said. It wasn't nobody but the Raiders.
But had they lost, he was gonna say, well, he
can't beat the Raiders, how is he gonna beat this team?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That team?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, we won't know how we'll do against this team
of that team, because we know the team that he
played today.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
He put butts in them.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well, listen, I'm a I'm a it was Raiders. It
was Raders. But what I saw from doing tonight, I
mean tonight, it looked good. There's there's room for improvement.
There's there's something that he could do well.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
He would also need his his supporting cast to help
him out. Jerry Judy, I know you want a dead leg, baby,
but just go ahead and get a young bullge.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Just go ahead and get out of the bounds, get.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Them yards that there was some throws I know she
would probably probably want to have back, especially that interception,
you know, staring down, staring down that stick route right
at the snap of the ball outside, Especially when you
can't run the ball. You can't run the ball and
make it dimensional. It's very very difficult on it's very
very difficult. But they were they were they were able
(11:44):
to pull the wind off. I'm sure Shador is probably
not happy glad he got the win. But there's a
lot of stuff you can go back and look at,
and he'll watch film and see where he can improve on,
improve in certain areas. And I like the fact that
he not only got to start, he made he his
story today. He made here today, and he gets to
build on that going into next week. I'm not sure
(12:05):
what's gonna happen with the fans, kid, if Dylan Gabriel's healthy,
if he's going to be the starter or not. You
know how they stuff like that is up in the air.
So I like the way he looked today. I mean,
I'm excited for him. I'm excited for him because the
offense looked different.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It just looked different.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They had a bounce about him. If you think about it,
they got and the defense did their part. They sacked
Geno Smith ten times. Oh, Joe ten, it was ten
ten Miles Garrett had three.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Miles. Garrett has eighteen sacks with six games to play.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Five more, right, five.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
More to break your record. If you keep singling him,
he gonna get thirty. He's got thirteen sacks in his
last four games.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah. Yeah, he gets in that sprintal stance. He getting
out like a track and get down on all fours. Yeah,
he comeing to hunt a quarterback. But I like the
fact that your door was looking to push the ball
down the field. And I think that's what they needed, guys,
because having been a receiver, bro, I want to get
down the field. I want to Hey, thought about Hey, look,
(13:10):
I want to catch the ball. But all this shallow
cross and all these bubble screens and all that. But
come on, man, it's hard to methodically go down the field, Ojo.
And we're gonna talk about this the Chiefs going down
the field. They had thirteen seventeen twelve and they kicking
field goals. But it's hard, especially when you got a
young quarterback and to ask him to be perfect. Tom
(13:32):
Brady could play like that. That's Tom Brady. He's not
gonna make those mistakes. But you're asking a first or
second year got young quarterback to say, okay, we want
you to be Basically we end up being somewhere of
twenty five or thirty three for two hundred and seventy
five yard three touchdown. Nah, you're asking him to do
too much. Let him take some chances. And I thought
(13:53):
you do it. Did a great job of getting outside
the pocket on the one day scored on Ojo.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
He did a great job ows back.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
He's holding his safety just like this here the last
second he turns, and so by the time that guy
catches and gives up, just say, you're like, hold on,
if I come downhill, I ain't gonna get there, So
let me try to get him at a Nah, I
ain't gonna be able to get him because basically, when
he hit that scene, Joe, it was good night Irene.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
It was a rap.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, it was but level of twenty I mean, and
he was like, hey, that's one week of starting. Imagine
when I get an off season. Imagine when that call
plays specifically for me, Imagine, yeah, who's that John Lenning
and said, imagine all the people. But I thought he
(14:42):
played really well. I thought he was really poor poised.
I thought, I know, it was great to see his
dad was in attendance. And Time was like, well, I
don't know, man, you know, Goodwill. Time wasn't missing that
one for nothing in the world. They could have been playing.
If Colorado had had.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
A game today, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Time would have like, man, you know, hey, I ain't
feeling too well. It would it would have snuckle when
snuck out here in Vegas to watch your son. And
that was that was great because you know, this is
really the first time that his dad's not coaching it.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
His dad's not around. Picking up the phone is one thing, but.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Being able to have a conversation face to face, it's
something entirely different. But I really really pleased with the
way he played. I thought he threw the ball really
really well. Isaiah Bond did a great job, Samson what
he called that? Yet I longed that sixty six yarder,
Like you said, Jared, Judy, bro, did you think he
was like? I mean, he was just oblivis, like, ain't
(15:35):
nobody behind me?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I don't know what Judy would think about. I don't
know how you forget about the goddamn backside pretty much.
And you know, for Sue, you know they coming, now,
you know they coming? Hey, listen, I'm not sure he was.
It was three defensits in front of him, yes, and
he was getting ready to dead leg somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I know the setup.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But you got to understand, you got to have self awareness,
understanding surround us. Man, get that thing, get make a
big decision to take your ass out of bounds one
of the.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Other Yeah, yeah, get out of bounds. But look, I
know the receivers are happy. Oh yes, he's giving them
opportunity to make plays over the top. All that shallow
cross and bubble screens and all that we talked about earlier. Ojo,
this gives him an opportunity to push the ball down
the field and give them an opportunity to make some
big plays. After the game, Kevin Stefanski was noncammental on
(16:24):
the starting quarterback for next Sunday's home game against the
forty nine ers Ojo.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
The video is gone viral online.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Here's Stefanski handing out game balls in the locker room
after the game.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Stayed resilient together. Like I told you, we needed.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
To write stay resilient together, and we fought together. How
about Gage's big putraturnal specialty. How about Corey every single
time you're out there pinning those guys doing your.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Job of facts.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Wasn't perfect, wasn't perfec How about that big play by save.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
It at the ends get I'd be huge play, Q
huge play, Harold making a big play and then another
rookie making his first start.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Nice jomp Shador.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Well there's that old saying save the best for last.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
How about that defense?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Holy is what I have to say about that ten
sacks play?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Our defense. Okay, I got one ball in my hand. Okay,
I got a guy. He's got to get a cold
every week. Okay, you had a cold this week.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Wasn't feel himself three sacks, which gives him eighteen on
the season for eleven games through eleven games, which breaks
his own Browns record. Miles Garrett, So I'll see you
guys in tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Hey, I'll see you one time.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I remember the age, so hold on. Yeah, I'm making
his first start. Yeah, that you didn't really want to
start a guy that you didn't want your organization, right right,
that's all he did, great Johnson.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, you don't get no game ball. Now, you don't
getting no game ball.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Uncle.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
That wasn't his pick. That's not what they want. They
don't want him to succeed. You know that, no respect
the owner told you. They only told you to himself.
Even the head coach, the head coach guy, the head
coaches guy is Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We all understand that. Listen.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Didn't you do it? Make history tonight?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Brown first rounds quarterback as a rook at the start
and win after what since what seventeen?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean you got to think about Ojo. They've had
forty two starting quarterbacks since nineteen ninety nine. No quarterback
making his first start. Yeah, the last seventeen has said.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
We didn't get it. They didn't get it done.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, well listen, it works the game ball o. Yo,
it's Clear's day. Now, it's Clear's day. Like I mean,
we've been going back and forth about this over and over.
Let nit picking the here and then people people say,
oh they hate they're not hating. Oh, Dylan Gables, listen
all that. We know what the play is. The writing
is on the wall. It's always been in the wall.
When when the owner came out and said what he
said about this not being my pick, this is brother
(19:11):
Drew Barry, Drew Berry, right, is that he said, Andrew Barry,
Andrew Berry, excuse me, Andrew Barry was it was his pick,
it was his idea. I mean, we know what it is.
You know, the auds are stacked against you. The auds
are stacked against you. When the opportunity presents himself, he
has to go out there and do what he did.
Do what he did.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
The odds were stacked against him.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
He went out there and had a good game today,
much much more room for improvement. But he gave him
the opportunity to win. He allows him to have a
different style of offensive play calling when he's out there playing,
and that's all he can do.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh, Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I ain't saying you got to get a man in
a car. I ain't say that. I ain't saying you
got to pick the man up on it. I ain't
saying the team need to pick him up on his
shoulders and carry him off the field. But that little bit, oh,
you talking about big time catch hold on and this
is not a knock on. You have fanning, So don't
please don't take it this way. He had four catches
for forty yards. I mean he made two big I
(20:13):
mean Shadua played his ass off level twenty eight, had
an interception. I thought he was very good. I thought
he was very good with his eyes. I thought he
was very good with his feet. Everything was attached. And
that's all you got for the man. Miles Garrett deserved five.
All the football that you brought to brought the Vegas,
give him to it. Say so we're gonna ship ball
all four of these damn football to your house in Cleveland,
(20:35):
Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Whatever. Miles Garrett won't.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
As a matter of fact, Miles you want to pay,
you take your hands make of that getting more caught. Hey,
you need to get fifty million, and he'll get this
record as long as the Browns are able to keep
the game close where teams can't just run front the ball.
Excuse me, excuse me, as long as that as loan.
You see he got five last week. Why because for
(20:58):
the large part of large portion of the game they
had to lead. So if the team got the lead,
over what you gotta do back in the game. When
you see what happened to night they jumped out on
the fourteen another fourteen to three. Now you got the
play aster the ball. You can't from first of all,
your run game is not good enough, and your offensive
line but not good enough to blow people off the ball.
So you got to throw it. And they got a
(21:19):
good enough defensive line that you can't just double. I'm
doubling Miles Gart somebody else might get three sacks, but
it ain't gonna be here in him because he is
a guy that you game playing. Oh yo, we going
there on Wednesdays. They got him circle, he got red
ink around him. This is the guy that if we
don't block, he gonna tear our ass up. He will
destroy our game plan run or pass.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
With that being said, that man couldn't flip you doing football.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
O yo.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
You know the man wasn't flipping him no football. You know,
the man that that is not the individual that they
want at the helm.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
They made that clear long time ago.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
The game that they've been playing in training camp, him
not getting reps.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
We understand that.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
So therefore them, you actually wanted him to give him
credit after the game, that ain't happening. So to me,
it's it's not surprising to me because Okay, we already know,
we already know what it is. We know, we know
you're not our guy. I think Shador even knows that
as well.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
He's not tripping.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'm gonna prepare myself so when the opportunity presents itself,
the end result looks like today, the most important stat
that w that's all that matters.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
On a listen on the next week.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I see you Wednesday, Oh Joe, you and I have
both been in situation. And I know y'all probably the
last guy that y'all want to hear dating advice from,
but we all had We've all had the young.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Lady, Oh Joe. She was gorgeous, drop dead gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, come on, wait, take your time.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Was she I wanted her so bad? Yes? Yes, But
when it didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I realized the other one she was the best for me,
and I needed to give her credit because the one
that I wanted it didn't work out. I understand, Stefans,
you won't Dylan Gabriel, But you got to understand the
guy now is the best for you, and it's gonna
(23:14):
give you the best opportunity to win because he is
unafraid to push the ball down the field, because in
this league that's how you win big plays. I just
I don't get it, o Jo. Sometimes you gotta, like
coachut to tell her. Sometimes I got a fooler. Sometimes
you gotta lie to your team, even if you don't
(23:37):
like your doing, even if you won't Dylan Gabriel, you
won't commit.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I get all that, and I get the semantics. I
get the scheme of it. Ohoe, I don't want.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I want them to prepare for both, knowing damn well,
Dylan Gabriel ain't gonna see that field anytime soon. I
get all of that, But this notion that this thing
is even close, this notion that this was just a whole,
I mean a whole, a whole hum performance, right. The
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guy got no snaps with the guys that he played
with today until Wednesday of last week. Yeah, and he
does that on the road in a hostile environment, and
all you got for him is that.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
And and one thing about it, Listen, you have to
understand coaches had egos too. The owner has an ego too.
The owner and the coach not in calhoots. But they
both wanted their quarterback. They got their quarterback in the
third round. Things and things, things happen, things that work out.
Dylan Gabriel's hurt right now. There is no where in
hell they gonna sit on their hands and show the.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
World that they made a mistake. Ain't nowhere, ain't nowhere
in hell. That's not happening. It happened, though, Joe. It's happening.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
All made mistakes. The thing is not making a mistake.
Do you learn from it? Because remember, oh Yoe, mistakes
with our consequences, there's no lesson to be learned.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You have to understand.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
But how many consequences that they had in the last
what forty forty some years? This is this is the
forty fifth start. This is the forty fifth starting quarterback
for the Cleveland Browns. Since nineteen.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I don't even know forty second different starting quarterback. That's
forty some quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
So obviously they haven't learned their lesson regards to who
the owner is, who grabs, who the head coach is,
and that's how they see fit. We're going to continue
to prove that we made the right pick in the
third round by doing goddamn she do or saying this
somewhat of an injustice, and what they're trying to do
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is likely. The likelihood is probably gonna backfire. It's probably
gonna backfire and not work in their favor.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
All I'm saying is this, I believe the young man
played well enough today to earn another start, no matter
what you think about it, whether you like him or
dislike him, whether you like his brashness is arrogance or
his cockingess, or whatever the case may be. I don't
know whether you like or dislike his father. All I
know is he played well enough today and chat, hey, chat,
Cleveland Browns fans.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
At any point in time.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Did Dylan Gabriel play in his starts as well as
Shador played today. That's all I'm asking. That's what you
have to look at. Avatars when did you judge the starter, Ojo.
I'm not saying a starter could lose. They said a
starter can't lose his job due to injury. Mike Shanahan
said a starter can lose his job because if the
guy comes in and he's playing better than you at
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the time you got injured, that is our new starter.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I have a question, Yes, I have a question. Before
Dylan Gabriel had that concussion, he played six games, right,
he plays in six games.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yes, the best of my knowledge, Yes, okay, at six games.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So I mean it would be hard to compare compare
the two based on real time, real NFL games until
we have Shador play six games as well.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
See.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
The point is, well, Stefanski and that organization allows Shador
to continue to play them game because they don't want
him to prove them wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
That's what they don't want.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
That's why I think the game that them the Fancy's
gonna play is he gonna find out if Dylan Gaber
will he be able to go this week? So we're
not on the wrong on the on the wrong side
of being right.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Well, how about that is being wrong, O Joe, instead
of them, instead of him, let him play because maybe
he proves you right. Maybe all of a sudden he flocks.
I don't believe it will I believe that. I believe
the kid had two months MAXI. I believe that he
believes and the way he was brought up in and
what his dad has instilled in him, and he wants
to be great, not because of his father.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
He's like, my father did what he did.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, but he can't throw no passes for me. No,
he can't slide the line, he can't read anything for me.
Everything that I'm getting now is because it's my own.
I'm doing this, should do it, Sanders. And I love
my father, I love the last name that he bestole
to plun me. But at the end of the day,
he can't throw no passes.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
You do realize him on that owner and that head
coach don't want to be made to look like a
fool by putting this well by there and having twelve
continuously win you games.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You do realize that, right, Make me look like a
food and help me get to the playoffs. Make me
look like a fool and make me be a consistent winner.
Make me look like a damn food and maybe potentially
get me to the man, do you look do you
know if that if you're doing what to get that
get that team into the playoffs, get to the AMC
Championship Game. I'm not talking about this year. I'm talking
about let's just say in the next five years. If
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he were to do that and take that team to
a super Bowl, they'll build a statue. Yeah, I mean
it'll be Jim Brown, Otto Graham should do a Sanders.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You do realize the owner would look like a fool.
You do realize the fancy will look like a fool.
They do not want young bulls to succeed.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Well, if mayans think that damn food now to begin with.
So it don't matter what you look like, they already
think you are. Yeah, all you would do by keep
keeping this going because you so sometimes you got to
keep your mind closed because people will know how big
a damn fool you are. Yeah, I said, boy, keep
your mind closed. Sometimes people might thank you a fool.
But if you're over your mind, you're you'll remove all. Now,
so the Cleveland fans, they don't hold mister Haslam and
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the fans get in the highest regards, so there's not
a whole lot they can do to change that now
if you want to. Now, if you really wanted to
go booing and carry it on, take the young man
out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Take the young man. Don't let him start next week.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Hey, well, now you know the game these folks playing.
You understand you you've been around long enough, so for
him to have the game, he had right to not
only get a game ball for Stefanski to get in
front of the media and still be noncommitted to who
wanted me to start the next week? What does that
tell you? We ain't gotdamn week twelve, were going into
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week thirteen. There's no need to be playing these mind games.
And if we ain't goddamn training camp, you know who
to fucking start. I'm sorry, you don't know who the.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Start is going to be.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's a game. It's a game at this point because
that's not who you actually wanted to help playing quarterback
for your franchise, because you don't want to look like
a goddamn fool.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Oh yo.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
There are very few people. They are very very few people.
With the first person that ras they're bury, Wait who then.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
My grandma say my grandma, say hey, bring that to me,
say that to me. There are very.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Few people that are that are with the person that
initially ras they're bury you be driving the mart You're like, damn,
I ain't never heard that one vote, you know, don't
worry about it.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But anyway, hold on, hold on, no, no, you don't
skip over with me like that.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Give it to me in English now, O jo a Barry, right,
I know Barry.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Jews yeah, Jews, Yeah, yes, a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
How many people that are married or in a serious
relationship that person that they're in that relationship, that is
the first person that piqued their curiosity, that is the
first person that they love, that is the first person
that they wanted to be with. Okay, so third, fourth, fifth,
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Okay, I get it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, so in a situation like that, Okay, but you
know what, just for GP, just to endure to do
unbelievable job, game ball for you?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Right, yes, yes, yes, yeah, you do that when it's
actually the person you actually want, that's a that's a difference,
you understand, that's it. Hold on, you're using that analogy
wrong to un.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
No, because my grandma used to say, my grandmother used to.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Say what you said, Barry, it's cherry, no raspberry.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
You don't ras my berry, which means he don't excite me,
don't worry about it, you'll get it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Hey, hey, that that must be some downside. I ain't
never heard of that. I'm saying down here. It is more
like cherry the first pop my cherry. So you yeah, first,
you don't rasp my berry.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You don't fight me. I like that.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
That's different from I get it. Your door might not
might not have excited them in the beginning. They was
more excited about dealing Gabriel. But at the end of
the day, who makes you wholesome, who makes you? Who
makes your house feel like a home? Who when you
get excited, when you when when you need someone to
talk to and say, you know what, I'm gonna love
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you through all those scars, and I know you got
a lot of them, but come lay your head on me,
and I'm gonna make it okay. That's what this young
man had the potential of doing. Give him an opportunity.
That's what we because a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
We visual, man, We are very visual. Yeah, if you
exports you a big what do I see?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Man? He could throw the ball a hundred.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's why they make so many mistakes at the quarterback
position on Joe, because what can he do? He can
throw them all eighty yards. I saw him on one
knee throw them all sixty yards and hit them up right?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
How many times?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Then be one kneecause if he down on one knee,
that means he down already, so the ball will be incomplete.
With all that being said, a lot of times we
get in awe about what we see. Sometimes the esthetic beauty,
long hair flagship has body. Oh she got Greek degree
stacked on top of the greed uh huh. But sometimes
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it's what's on the inside, is what we can't see,
that's the determining factor.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Tom Brady ain't had no aesthetics.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
He couldn't run fast, he couldn't jump high. Yes he
didn't have He didn't have no awe like Mahomes with
Josh Allen. But what you couldn't see, yes, sir, made
him deadly.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
See.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Sometimes we get we look at the black mamba. The
black mama is not the most dangerous snake in Africa.
It's not even dangerous as the bloom slang or the
common brown in Australia or the Western or the coastal Taipan.
But he had the name. You see them at the
black number. Now he will attack without provocation. Most snakes
that are venomous, they won't attack without provocation. That's what
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makes him so deadly because it is one of the
few snakes that will tack without provocation.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
May get that man a damn game ball.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
It ain't your game ball any damn Way's like you
buy no footballs.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
He got me hot up in here.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I see he don't.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Don't.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Don't let your emotions get the best say you.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Because you think you're mad right now? You think you
mad right now?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Wait until Wednesday and watch the games they play.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Ohay, you remember that song Choe.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
If you're taking lonely, now wait until the night. If
you think I'm mad now, like you say, wait until Wednesday.
They talk about Mary kay Cabin. Come out there and
says Dylan Gabriel is take a snap, boy, I'll break
up everything.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I tell you.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I tell you one thing. You might well get the
breaking right now. You might as well get the breaking
right now because you you understan, you understand the NFL.
You know the games that they play, especially when the
owners come out at the beginning of the season, excuse me,
at the beginning of the season, matter of fact, in
training camp and saying a certain individual is not his
draft pick. That he did say that, Yes, he came
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out and said it. So what does that that lets
you know already what the player is gonna be for
the for see of your future? As long as twelve
is there.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
The outcome that everybody expected.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
The Patriots beat the Bengals by the score of twenty
six to twenty Mike Grabiles New England Patriots became the
first NFL team to reach ten wins. Joe Flacco, Ocho, Chad,
y'all remember I told Ocho, I said, Ocho, Joe Flacco.
He goes start out hot, right, I mean, he gonna
be hotter than he's gonna be hotter than four foxes
in the forest fire.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
But the turnover machine, now.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Now he turned over. He turned it over one time today.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
He turned it. Listen.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Hey, I know, hey, listen, and you know, you know
it's funny. You know it's funny too. Hey that dB cheated.
He wasn't where he's supposed to be. You know that
he cheated up. He stayed up much closer. How could
you not, as a quarterback not see that out the
usually a peripheral, but there was a two shell instead
of instead of going back, and he's supposed to be
at he's sitting down at the line of scripts.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I'm like, man, what is he doing, Joe? Because guess what? What?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Got a little pressure and he throwing late? What happened
when you throw late to the flat?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
It was going the other way every time? Okay, every time? Yeah,
But but listen, the Patriots, the Patriers had. The Patriots
had one hell of a game. They had a good game.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Said Drake may Do, Hey, Drake may do. Jeremy I
got Drake may I got ya. Kobe Brissett, I said,
what you call him? I'm gonna get no TD.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
T Higgins, y'all better be on that prime pick you
made JSC and I say, JS an't gonna have it
at least ninety four got I said that. Okay, you
said that, Okay, I said, Jakoby Brissett, we're.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Gonna have boot. Got that. Drake may playing the Bengals,
got that? I said, T.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Higgins wasn't gonna get no touchdown, no kind of way
because Gonzales.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Had it because he got hurt.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
The feelings.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Hey, but listen, we honestly, well, technically, you know my
team won. Then basically, whoa, whoa?
Speaker 7 (37:25):
What?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Talk about you? Your team? Who your team? You know?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I play with the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
U he played with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Y'all hear the chat? Hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on. I'm just saying I played there.
I played there. Listen, I played there, you know, towards
the end of my career. I were Oh, I was
old as hell, but I played there. You know, you know,
I had to kick the tires a little bit, but
I was there. Chat, What's up here with this man
just saying? I'm just saying it is what it is.
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It's in the books. You the one, You the one
been telling me. Listen, you play with the Patriots, you know. So,
I mean, I'm just throwing it out there. I'm I'm
I'm still a Bangle. I'm still a Bangle. I'm still
a Bango fan at heart.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
But I never knew. Yeah, I mean, listen, you.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Know, honestly, I love everybody the Patriot.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
You told me, you told me you played with them Bangles,
and your heart and your team that you grew up
watching the Miami Guppies, right right, No two teams. Honestly,
what about you went to the super Bowl with the
big with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, you know, you know I said that because I
ain't really do nothing.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I was there.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I would like decoration like Christmas time, you know how
your little ornament on the tree, you know, to on
them on the tree. He really there, but he ain't
really got no no, no, well doing like the starters
at the top. You feel me, Yeah, you know, my
days was really over. I was just out there like okay,
this is why they went all the time, you know,
and you know, having a good time to join the ride.
I ain't really get you know, to be productive or
nothing like that. So I don't really want to claim nothing.
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I ain't really get no work in you.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Sure hope y'all got on that prize pig or that
paray I had. I said that thing out that night
for y'all. I got another one coming for you.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Hey, you know what I want to see too? Unc
Now we talk about the Bengals two and that got
damn h Mitchell Tinsley. Yeah, that got damn Mitchell tinsey
Man every time every time Young Bull in the game,
he making a play. Hey, I need I need to
see him man. Since then, since since the preseason when
he made that one handed catching end zone, every time
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he in the game and he making a play. Unk,
I'm talking about every time that day he beat Gonzo.
He beat Gonzo at the line of swimming. Hey, I'm
about setting like, I'm.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Like, hey, and you know at that at that position,
O Joe, you stop your feet of the corner.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's over.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
It's a rock, it's around over. Yeah, you got you
got to keep your feet alive. You got to keep
you feed the live. So I would love to see
him get a little bit more burn. Ti Higgins went
out to day, Chase.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Is coming back over Burton.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I think jam and Burton, I think it's over, O Joe,
you think so Insinsey. I'm not saying it's over for
him in the NFL, but I think it's times up.
And then he's another healthy scratch again get down the receiver,
Chase and they don't get Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, I don't know what's going on in that area,
you know. I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think
Chase and he did what they could to take him
under his wing. I'm really not in the facility. I
don't know the personal things that may be going on,
but I know he's an extreme talent. He's an extreme talent, simmon.
I'm not not comparing him to Pickings. I'm just speaking
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on He has a lot of upside, a lot of potential,
and I hope he gets on the right check at
on the right track at some point, even if it's
not in Cincinnati, because he can be tremendous. He can
be tremendous for some team once you get things going.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Oh yoall the Ravens beat the Jazz.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
The Ravens have gone for one in five start the
first place tie in the AFC North. Despite Lamar not
had his MVP form, Lamar has been held on the
two hundred yards passing for three straight games for the
first time in five years. He also is going back
to back games without a touchdown pass for the first
time in six years. Lamar was asked if he felt
for he helped fully himself in the recent weeks and
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if injuries are holding him and the offense backs. He says,
I can't call it, but I'm out there, so I
feel like I should still be able to do what
I do. I feel like we just need to execute
a lot better. We're getting great field possession, but we're
not putting points on the board, and that has nothing
to do with no injury. One of the biggest changes
in the game has been the decreation Russian. He holds
the record for the most rushing yards by a quarterback,
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and he's averaging a career low twenty nine, less than
thirty yards rushing per game.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And Deck Henry they carried to oh yo.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Normally this is when you see the Ravens run the
ball thirty four times, it's normally two hundred plus yards. Yes, sir,
they ran the ball thirty four times a day, less
than one hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I mean, hey, listen, it's something weird about this season.
It's something weird about this season when it comes to
certain teams that were used to seeing be very dominant,
especially offensively, the Chiefs, it looks weird. It looks very weird.
The Baltimore Ravens, it looks weird. You know, even even
when they were healthy they started out oh and too,
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they started to so they really haven't been able to
get themselves in the groove before Lamar got hurt. But
the fact that they've been able to come back and
dig themselves out of hole, and Lamar being back now,
it gives them a chance. No matter what, they will
always have a winning chance as long as eight is
back there. As long as they back there, they're going
to be all right. At some point that offense is
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going to have to hit their stride. They're going to
have to their strike. But the defense is playing a
little better as opposed to how they are as opposed
to how they look at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
I don't want to put too much. I don't want
to put too much because they played the canoe.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Let's let's okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, let's a
you called okay, I got you? I got you.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I mean they had twenty fifth cares for seventy six yards. Yeah,
but for the Ravens to run up for the Ravens, uh,
Lamar was thirteen or twenty three. Oh the hot reader
stud of Go So Sweet, and he threw it out
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, did you see. I don't know if you saw that.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Oh Joe the hot Redder study go, Oh Joe her
he run a stutter so sweet.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, and he missed him and Lamar missed him.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yeah, I ain't see I ain't see that play.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, let me get my charger. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Lamar was thirteen or twenty three one fifty three, no
touchdowns nor exception.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
He was sacked once.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Deck Henry had twenty one carries for sixty four yards. Again,
as I mentioned, they had thirty four rush attempts for
ninety eight yards, but they did have two touchdowns. Deck
Henry did get the ball in the m zone twice,
but offensively for something that they just they seem to
be off and I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Uh, well, this is this is this is this is
Lamar what it's only a second his third week back, right.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, it' probably about his third week back.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Yeah, third week back. I mean, I mean as he goes,
the rest of the team goes. So as when he
gets back into rhythm and he starts feeling that confidence
back again, then I think everything will pick up.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Well, he's gonna have to teams beat the Colts for
two quarters, including overtime. Chris Jones and the rest of
the defense dominated the Colts offense, which allowed the Chiefs
to exit Arrowhead with a much needed twenty three to
twenty comeback victory. After the game, it looked like Mahomes
took a shot at the chief coaching staff when he praised.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Lou Almarulo Almarulo Ojo. Take a listen to what Mahoon
Boy had to say.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
Yeah, they definitely do some of the stuff. I mean
that coach Romo is a great defensive coordinator, great coach,
and he has this stuff. But I think what makes
him such a great defense coordinators he kind of tailors
his team. Taylor's his scheme to the team that he
is playing with, and so he wants to go with
their strengths and so getting their guys the best position
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to succeed. And even from some of the trades they may,
they've adjusted their defense as well, and so I think
that's that's something that makes him a great coach is
that he's not stuck in his ways of how he
calls the thing. He adjusted his scheme to the team
that's around him. And obviously they've done a lot of
great things this year.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
If you go back and study Ojo, if you look
at them, what defense has given Patrick Mahomes the most
trouble The Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
It was their coordinator, the guy that's.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
At And you know what's funny is you think about
how difficult the Chiefs and the Bengals games are, how
difficult they make it for Patrick Mahomes, and look at
what he has to work with over there in Indianapolis, Yes,
supporting casts, the players he has to be able to
pull off, making those games even more difficult as opposed
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to the Bengal defense, which most consider, you know, to
be bad, you know in the sin So I mean
to Davious Ward, God damn sauces out there, Zion Franklin.
They got a really really good scar, really really good squad.
When when when Buckner coming back.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I don't know that the possibility he might not come back. No,
not this year.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah oh he man, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
He's he's the he's.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
The disruptor, he's the he's the he's the guy that
you circle says, Okay, we got to deal with him.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
But but Mahome, Mahomes almost almost you know, I think
he was trying to do too much. Mahone was trying
to be Superman today.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
He missed the pros Hollywood Brown had sauce beat bad
on the ball and Mahomes missed it. He had trave
on a on a on the uncovered quick and he
missed it. He had Juju on the over route and
he missed it. So there's some opportunities that are there
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that Mahomes normally wouldn't miss. Good thing rush she right
showed up today. Uh, Kareem Hunt. Look, Kareem's gonna get
your tard hard fault yards. Yeah, he's not. He's not
what he was like his rookie his first two years.
Oh joe, he's not that guy. But he's solid. He's
gonna get you some hard fault yards, some hard ones,
some hard three. He'll break a tackle good on the
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gold line. But oh joe, the problem that they're having
is that when they get into the red zone. O Joe,
they had a seventeen play drive settle for three. They
had a fourteen play drive settle for three, had a
thirteen play drive settle for three. They had a fourteen
play drive settle. Oh Joe, you know this. You kick
phield goals, you get your ass kick if you score
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a touchdown. Now you really really put pressure on an
opposing team. That is the problem. The problem is they
used to be automatic when they got into the redson
o yo.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Every time, hold on, not only automatic when they got
into the red zone. On the creativity between Patrick Mahomes
Andy Reid, it was unbelievable. Remember all the tricks they
used to do, all they go around and doing all.
You know, dude, that's not working anymore because now the
film is out there, him is out there, So it's
a little different. Everything is a little bit more difficult. Yeah,
you know, once you know, want three super Bowls already,
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it's the same offense. Everybody's seen almost everything you have
to you have to day, so therefore it become that
much more difficult. People were talking, Okay, the Chiefs were
down there, five and five, they're five hundred for the
first time, and who knows how long.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
But again, keep talking. My computer's messing up. Do something,
but do keep going, keep going, keep talking about the.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Chief Okay, anyway, Chad, listen, I think when it comes
to the Chiefs, right, as bad as they've been this year,
they're five and five. Obviously we're not used to them
being five and five, but they're gonna be all right.
Anytime you have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes. Anytime you
have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, he can put that
team on his back. Similar to what he did today.
He almost lost the game a little bit because he
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was trying to do too much, trying to do too much,
trying to be too man, trying to carry the load himself.
The commentators talked about it. I'm sure he knows as well.
But Rashi Rice had one hell of a god damn today.
Day to day he was eight foot he had what
eight for one one kareem hunt with thirty one four
and shoot, that's it, so chatty, just me and y'all right, Now,
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welcome to night cap with O Cho.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Are you still there?
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Are you back back?
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (49:19):
You good? I got it the rest of the way,
go ahead and chill.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
The Chiefs had a seventeen play drive sixty four yards,
three points down eighteen. They had a thirteen play drive
that took eight minutes and twelve seconds three points. They
had a ten play drive that eighty four yards eighty
one yards three points five, and then they had five.
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Then they fumbled. Then they had an eleven play drive
eleven eleven play drive that resulted in a touchdown, and
then ohoe. The end of the game, they had a
fifteen play drive. Yeah, for eighty seven yards, and at
that point in time they were just trying to get
it to get got the field goal and then the
field goal to end to win the game.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Oh joe, another twelve plays.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
So that's twelve let's say twenty seven, thirty, forty one,
forty six, fifty one, fifty four, sixty four, seventy seven,
ninety four. They had ninety six plays. Let me see it,
my man, because I was quick in my head, you
know what. Try you know I'm saying. You know, I'm
just I'm just, you know, I'm speeding do the things.
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Let me see.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
The hell they had ninety one.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
So minus the penalty, they had ninety ninety one actual
actual plays.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Oh, you don't normally see that many plays in an
NFL game.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
No, not today.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Sixty five seventy is is the norm.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, sixty sixty five is norm. Ninety one actual call plays?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, it's crazy. Damn. What what what do you think?
Speaker 3 (51:02):
What do you think the issue is with the Chiefs
not being able to score once they get into the
red zone. They were automatic before.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Okay, they run they won the wildcat with Travis Kelsey
and then you know John's uh pulled the guy's helmet.
They call it back, So you got to settle for
a field goal. Words before they were, like you said,
the creativity. They were able to get the ball into
the end zone some razzle dazzle play, flip it here there,
you know, shovel pass to the tight end, shovel pass
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to the back. They will always quick screen, you know,
jail quick screens get the ball into the end zone.
Now it's a struggle once they get inside the twenty
because now it's condensed and so and they're not getting
the home run because you remember old used to remember
how they used to complete the big play over the top.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
They had Tyree.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Now once they got rid of Tyree, the offense completely
changed because they have anybody that can get.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Over the top the top. Yeah, everything with like ding
ping ping ping, ping ping ping.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
And the funny thing about it, even though they had
the pingett and t I called I'm gonna call that
Tikki taker. They had the Tiki taker all the way
down and goddamn field. But because you have packtic mahomes,
you're still able to have success just doing that because
you can make the right decisions with the ball and
not make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
But see what happens when you play that type of game,
o Jo, you gotta be perfect.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
You see.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
The thing is, I mean, he tried to go with
a quick pass. Guy gets his hands up, picks it off.
Now he's got the ball. They got the ball in
one yard line. That's now, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, and see, but here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
What did they telling the mojo The ball's gonna come
out quick, So get your hands up.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Get your hands up.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Yeah, Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
Upcoming schedule at Cowboys, Taxes at home, Chargers at home
at Titans, Broncos at home at Raiders. A schedule again,
Thanksgiving at Cowboys, then that Sunday Night football, they get
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the Texans at home, then they got Raiders at home.
Then they're on the road Texans, excuse me, Titans. Then
Christmas they get the Broncos and then TVD Raiders. Damn well,
by that time the Raiders, everybody be living in everybody
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be living in the hotel because they be then to
pack their stuff up.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
They ready to go. O yo.
Speaker 3 (53:33):
Hey, Well, honestly, listen, if you playing Vegas, it really
ain't no, ain't no need to really rush back home
if you in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
But you just want to get away, O yo, because
you've been in the grind. You've been you've been here.
I just want to get away. I can always come back,
but I'm done right.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
I got you, I got you, I got you, I
got you.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
The forty nine Ers beat the Panthers twenty to nine.
Krista McCaffrey against the old team that he used to
play for that drafted him as a top ten pick
out of Stanford. CMC had one hundred and forty two
yards from scrimmage. He had eighty nine of those yard
twenty four carries eighty nine yards long of seventeen one touchdown.
He had seven kedules for fifty three yards. So he's
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on pace oho to do something that only Heed, Roger
Craig and Marshall Faulk has ever done rush and received
four thousand yards in a single season. All those guys
did they those guys did it once. If McCaffrey stays
on the pace that he's on, he'll do it for
the second time. So something very very special. If something
bears watching. Oh, here's the forty nine er schedule at
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Brown's times at home, at Coats, bear Seahawks at home,
So they got a pretty nice schedule. They got what
what is that, twelve twenty two, so that's a Monday
night They got the Coats on Monday Night football, and
then they followed that up nbc A five to twenty games,
so that's a.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
That's a Sunday night game.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
So but this game, O Yo party party was pretty awful.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Listen not only was pretty awful, though he threw in
the septs in the first half.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
J C.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Horn played out his goddamn mine, the defense played out,
they got damn mine, and the Panthers offense it failed
us tonight. On the Panthers offense failed us tonight. I'm
not sure what was wrong with Bryce Young and team
McMillan and some of the receiving Jimmy Horn, but they
were off their communication this far into the season. You
shouldn't be having mental errors like that or or mistakes.
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Mistakes like that, especially in the passing game because he's
throwing the players that are running one route and the
players are going a completely different way. Yeah, so a
lot of players were missed down on the gold line.
Bryce there was no need to throw that ball, but
you got you've got none of green grass in front
of you.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
But even if he throws, the thing is, you know
when you roll out o yo, you cut half to
feel off. So now they're flowing. They first of all
down there. Oh Joe, you're not finna throw it all
the way back pyline. You rolled into your right. You've
got to release that ball. You don't have to take
a full roll because the further you roll, the field
get condensed more if more condensed. Yes, that's why the
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guy on the front side was able to fall off,
because you brought the bright side tight end to him.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
You got to throw that ball earlier. Yeah, you run
out of real estate. He didn't. He didn't even have
to throw the ball at all.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
But you wants nothing but green grass in front of him,
nothing but green grass in front of him. Obviously his
eyes were locked in on the receiver and in the
back of the end zone.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Outside of that.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
This isn't. This isn't This wasn't Panther football tonight. This
is not this is not the this is not the
Carolina Panthers that we've we've been watching that when the
last five of their last five of this last seven
games that they lost one to night. But it wasn't good.
The defense did what they needed to do. Offense. Offense
left left a lot of points, a lot of players
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out there on the field.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
Yeah, I thought that.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I thought Carolina got away from the running game a
little bit too early.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
They didn't have the ball a whole lot. Uh what
looked like they had the ball forty two total plays.
That's not a whole lot. But when you look at it,
O yo. I think the thing is is that let's
let's let's talk to forty nines first.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, Jennings.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
When you run, when you run that that over route,
if you gain ground, you're gonna allow that corner back
to jet it or undercut you.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
And that's what he did, the dig route, the dig rock.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Oh Joe, you can't. You can't run that now.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
If you run that route like that, if you gain ground,
he gonna right up under.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
You, especially somebody like Jase Horn. Jesse has someone that
that that is as sound as him. He has good eyes,
good discipline, and he's gonna play. He's gonna he gonna
stay on hes gonna stay on your inside hip every time.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Yeah, get it right.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
He rounded by damn that four five years.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
I'm like, you.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Gotta keep, you, gotta keep, because once I got it
here with you, I got to keep him on my
head up, yeah, because if I let him up underneath
on that square square in, that's what it's called squad.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
It's a square in, square out square, So on.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
That square on you, I gotta keep him on my
hip because if I give him, if I give him
any leeweight, he's gonna undercut it, or he might grab
me and slingshot himself, grab me by my waist, pull
himself forward right there underneath the throat.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
And you know what another thing that a lot of
receivers need to get out of doing too, Uncle, They
get them top of them routes they doing doing all
that wiggle. They do that wiggle instead of just getting it,
getting up to your point and just snapping that thing off.
When you play against a good corner, I'm talking about
the good ones. And when you do that wiggle, all
they do is they stop their feet. So if they
stop in their feet and you sitting there wiggling.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
He's gonna drive on it. Let me ask your question.
You can't do that with the good dvs. Let me
ask your question.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
You run a go ball like that, so you get
to you get a ten yards and now you all
of a sudden, you're.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
Doing this on the go ball.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
No, everything it's got, it's gotta look the same every time.
Everything got to be. Even if you don't run full speed,
give the illusion, give the illusion that you are running
full speed. Get the way you got to and snap
that thing. Of all them tricks and all that. It
works on your average corners. But when you go against
the best, the better DB's, the j C Horns, you know,
the passertain the Denzel Awards. You not pulling that off,
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they gonna get that. Yeah, any indication you give them
they stopping their.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
Feet and you're driving, yes, because that's the indicator you get.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
I mean, you know you're taught to give an indicator
to your quarterback, but you're also giving an indicator to
your to the dB. Also, McMillan, there's a reason why
we say you to keep your arms tight. You see
how he got his arms out, what that dB do
ojo put tugging where he would have been. He hit
twenty seven right in the chest. That's why they tell
you to keep your arms tight because.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
They grabbing anything always. They're gonna grown and.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
They're not gonna call it every goddamn time.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
They're not gonna call it. They're not gonna call it.
But this was a really floppy game. I was surprised
how sloppy the game was. Party did not look good tonight.
Twenty three or thirty one touchdown, three interceptions.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Uh, that that was just awful.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
That was just off of his defense bailed him out
because they got to turnover and then Bryce Young comes
right back and gives it right back to him. They
got to look, Carolina really has a very small margin
for era. Yes, because they're such a young team, and
they're not they don't they don't have top five talent
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at any position on the offensive side of the football. Okay,
so with that being said, you can't do what they
did tonight. You can't turn that ball over like that
on the road, No excuse.
Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
You can't. You can't, especially not with the way the
defense is playing. You can't keep putting the defense out
there on the field, putting them in harm's way. Obviously,
when they they're getting stops, you getting the ball, you
had turn them on. They got three points off of
three turnovers. They got three points off of three turnovers.
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
You got, you got.
Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
You got to get more than that, because they give
me the ball back and give you the opportunity to
not with the game away, but at least extendedly enough
to have a chance on the back end.
Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
And they give you and give you short feels. Yeah,
you got to get something.
Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
You got to get something more than Okay, let's just say,
for the sake of argument, Oh, how you're only gonna
get three out of each one? Okay, that's nine points.
But you gotta come away well three turnovers. You got
to come away with more than three points.
Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Something.
Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
You got to It'll be nice if you cash one
of one of those guys in for a tug. But
three points. And like I said, I just didn't I
thought they ran. I didn't think they ran the ball enough. Yes,
I mean you got Dalbo back there. You got you
a Hubbard run the football.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
And I know you're probably thinking about whether you know,
they don't have those pass rushers, they don't have Bosa, uh,
you know, warners not in there.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
There's some things that we can take advantage of.
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
They don't have the most outstanding corners run the football.
Run the football. That is your that is your friend.
When you're on the road, you need to run the football.
But the forty nine of Look, the forty nine ers
keep there. They got to stay attached to the Rams
and the Seahawks eight and four right now, So with
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that's when they leap. They leap over Detroit for the
seventh seed. Not Detroit falls back to the eighth seed.
But they haven't had their by yet. I think Detroit's
had their bye. Haven't Detroit had their buy? Because Detroit
seventy four, So that means they had to buy already.
(01:02:33):
Because the forty nine ers haven't had there. That's why
they're twelve. Yeah, they're like, we might go ahead run
this thing all the way through.
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
And yeah, it was. It was a it was a
sloppy game on you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
I expected the forty nine ers to play a lot
would be a lot crisper than what they were. Hell,
I thought Bryce Young considering what he had came, what
he had done. I mean, what that four for? Who's
that against the Falcons?
Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Had they were down fourteen and came back?
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yeah, so he had he had started to play really well.
I really like McMillan's game. McMillan is really good. He
can really really play oho and he's only gonna get better.
He's doing this in his rookie season, so I can
just imagine in two or three years what he's gonna be. Like, Hell,
he might who knows, he might even take a leap
like a JSN did. Now I'm not saying, look that
that's I'm not saying that's gonna happen. But he's on
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pace to have over two thousand yards on one hundred
and twenty five catches. So he's he's doing he's and
he's in that zone right now. I just wanted once
you Jo, you know where you got a special season going.
Everything just seems to go your way and catch every
deep ball care m you catching everything just just it's
just zening. It's just perfect. Whatever. McCaffrey. Oh, oh, that's
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why they was fighting. Huh at the end of the game.
Oh okay, oh ah man Jennings, that's why they were
fighting at the end of the game. But dB punched
him into the the fire pole.
Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Oh I missed that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I missed that. Yeah, yeah, that's that's why at the
end of the game.
Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Yeah, I was I was setting it up.
Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
That's gonna cost him, that's gonna cast him a find.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I mean, that's gonna probably cost him like twenty five
fifty thousand.
Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
Holder.
Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
What kind of fight we talked about, like like a
little shoving.
Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Well he put Jenny's was blocking in and he ah, okay.
So at the end of the game, they got into
a little tussle. But you know, they got cameras so
they see all that. Theek the refs might have not
called it, but them twenty two cameras they.
Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Got, Yeah, they called it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Gonna see it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So don't
even don't even Hey, save your time, don't they Hey
that tuesday that you was gonna call in to appeal.
Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
That yeh, go golfing.
Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Don't waste the time.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Yeah yeah, go golfing because it ain't gonna help. But yeah,
this was this was a game I thought would be
a little better. Uh. It wasn't clean, I mean, but
you get five five total turnovers, sloppy game, slapping game.
But the forty nine Ers win moved to eight and
four Carolina six and six, uh, San Frae twenty Carolina
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nine
Falcons got on the winning track, Ohoe, by scoring twenty
four to ten over the New Orleans Saints. Kurt First
Cousin sixteen or twenty three one ninety nine, two touchdowns,
one pick.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
He was sacked three times.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
B Jon Robinson had fourteen carries for seventy yards, as
Jerira had twelve or forty four twenty nine carries.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
A buck twenty one.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Mooney has three catches, had a big touchdown over the
top forty nine yards one touchdown.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Ojo.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I watched this game, see just the way this one
game I ain't get to see. It was only so
many TVs out there.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, Chad, if you're a Falcons fan, you know what
I'm about to say is true. Happen Kyle Piss seen
you dropping too many passes? Oh shoe? He he just
I don't know what it is. I don't know what
it is. I mean, he just dropped it. I'm talking
about routine stuff. I'm not talking about no acrobatic catches
where you got to go up. I'm talking about stuff
hitting him dead in his hands. I'm talking about over
the shoulder stuff. He's and he's too talented. He's as
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talent of a tight end receiving tight end that I've
seen come out the draft. He's supposed to be brock Bowers.
He's supposed to be McBride. That's what he's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Dropping him clean, clean, clean, hold on.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You talk about clean like contested catches.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
No, he dropping the routine stuff, hitting them in the chance.
Ain't nobody right now? No, he just dropping them, damn.
And I just thought, I just knew this was gonna
be the year that, you know, he shows everybody why
he was a top five pick.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
He went in front of Chase. Yeah, he was number four. Huh.
It's just it's I just I don't know what it is.
I don't know what it is. I just I did.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I did not even vision, especially come off the season
that he had as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Way he went over a thousand yards.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yep, I just knew it, like, Okay, the sky's the limited,
this is gonna be And it just it just hadn't
it just hadn't clicked, just hadn't clicked. Jackson Smith and
Jigba had another awesome day. Oh Jo eight catches a
buck sixty seven against the Titans. He has thirteen hundred
and thirteen receiving yards. He broke a DK's record that
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he set in twenty twenty. DK did that in sixteen games.
He's broken the record in eleven games. Smith In Jigba
is on first on pace to become the first player
with two thousand receiving yards in a single season.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
If there's a player that should get it, if there's
a player that the NFL and the team and the
powers that be that control everything, he's one of the
ones you want to do it. He's one of the
players you want to allow to be able to break
that record. Jays Sid is having one hell of a season.
He's having one hell of a season. And the fact
that he's continuing exactly what he started at Ohio State.
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We saw him in the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Go for what two eighty, No, he went for three?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
He did, he went for three something and coming to
the NFL, most of the time it's a hit and
miss when it comes to receivers.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But for him to show.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That not only did that do in college, but hold on,
hold my beer, I'm gonna give it to you in
the NFL two every week, not just one week and
then you go missing for two or three weeks. But
I'm talking about back to back to back, and it's
a testament to not only the quarterback but the play
calling that continuously puts him in position to be able
to make these plays and create mismatches so he can
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do exactly what he's doing. Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
The Tennessee. Yeah, the Seattle win.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
They moved to eight and three thanks to a thirty
twenty four victory over the Tennessee Titans. Sam Donald was
sixteen to twenty six two forty four, two touchdown. Kenneth
Walker had eleven carris for seventy one one yard. They
had twenty rushers one hundred and fourteen yards one touchdown.
Sharping up, but it was Jackson Smith and Jigba eight
catches a buck sixty seven two touchdowns. They had sixteen
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or sixteen completions for two hundred and forty four yards. Man,
he cooked, folks, I mean complete, I mean he is.
He's so smooth.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Man.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I've seen silk. That wasn't that smooth? Don't Joe that joker? Man?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Good God amighty? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Cut he cutting up now?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah? Bad?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
He cutting up? And it don't you know what the
funny thing about it is, it don't matter who it is.
You think, Okay, maybe you're playing against bad defenses, maybe
playing against bade.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It don't matter.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Everybody getting that work, everybody getting that there, everybody. So
don't know about the old man. I locked not this year.
There might be a time down the road that you
say I locked him up. We got this year his
own one. I want to see him get two thousand.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Once you get into a rhythm like this, ain't no
stopping and the play calling is gonna always continue to
be in your favor just so you can get that record.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Ask nobody, is he gonna be the MVP if you
get two thousand yards? No, because somebody had to throw
him the ball that got him two thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, that is true.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So Matthew Stafford right now, I think Matthew Stafford has
a stranglehold. Now I will say this, if Miles Garrett
was on a winning team doing what he's doing, he
would get serious, serious, serious consideration, iteration.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, hands down, hands down, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Because I'm talking about I mean, he might he might be.
Like I said, I think he's gonna be the first
defensive player to win Defensive Player of the Year that's
on a losing squad since qure Tess Kennedy did it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
M hm, oh shit, but can you see me? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I see you now like you hold on, I hit
the wrong button on my computer. Man, Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
But Smith and jig but is having an unbelievable season,
and it's it's it's a pleasure to watch him, watch
him go to work. And it doesn't matter. They see
you too, oh Joe. Okay, the Jags beat the Cardinals
in overtime. We had a couple of overtime games today.
I thought we might get another one with the Cowboys
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and the Eagles, but hey, the Cowboys walk it off
thanks to Brandon Aubrey's a forty two yard field goal.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
But we did get two overtime games.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We got Detroit and the Giants, and we got this
one right here, the Jags and the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
As Trevor Lawrence was.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Eighteen to thirty two fifty six, three touchdowns, three picks
and a fumble, so they got four turnovers.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Damn. The Cardinals got four turnovers and still and still
and still lost.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Hey Jacobe with Dylan though Brack.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Oh yeah, thirty three or forty nine three seventeen one touchdown.
Michael ojo again. You see what he did. Now he
get a big play. He spinned the ball. Ball here
his foot rolled to the end. So now he got
to go get it. Now he got to come back
and try to find the official. You see, bro, Come
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on man, y'all, come on now, come on, bro, there's
a time of the place to celebrate you down. Why
are you spinning the ball? Do you not understand situational football?
In that situation? Spinning the football? This is not the
first quarter, this is not the second quarter, Bro, This
is over.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
This is over. Time.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
No excite, ah my gosh, he's excited to make them plays.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Hunh.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But you got you gotta know, you got you gotta
be you got you gotta you gotta be away your situations.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The time you remember you remember Pittsburgh, the guy Clayborne,
what what was it? Take lay the receiver from to day.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
They caught the ball and he caught the ball in
Minnesota Chase Claypool and started celebrating on Yoe t.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Time going down.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yes, but I'm looking I'm like I'm just oh, I'm
just looking at him. I'm looking at him like this
here come here, you come. See back of the old
when we played on you you do some like that.
Come in, son, come in.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
No now, if he hasn't already, he'll apologize. Yeah, he apologized, like, look,
I just can't do that. Valuable time is off the clock.
Oh Joe, you got the ball, Just get the ball,
go back. You saved ten seconds seconds.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, handed to the rest, you handed to the ref.
You get even more time on the clock.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But the Jags went to score in overtime twenty seven
to twenty. Even though Arizona takes the ball away four times,
they still lose the game. The Browns beat the Las
Vegas Raiders by the score of twenty four to ten.
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Shador Sanders became the forty second quarterback to start a
game for the Browns since they came back into the
league in nineteen ninety nine. He also became the first
Browns quarterback to win his first career start in the
NFL since Eric Zire did it back in nineteen ninety five.
The victory ended a seventeen game losing streak for Browns
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in games in which the quarterback was making their first
career start. That was the longest streak by any franchise
since nineteen fifty when quarterbacks start were first recorded. The
wins snapped their thirteen game road losing streak for the Browns,
which was also the longest active streak in the NFL
and their second longest enfranchise history. Shador was eleven of
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twenty two hundred and nine yards with one touchdown and
an interception. He was, look, they didn't run the football
worth nothing. Twenty seven rushes sixty seven yards for Ochoe
his ability and he's looking the thing that you have
to like about him. He's looking to push the ball
down the field. He realized, I don't catch big fishing
around the shore. I need to cast way out there.
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You see he rolls out of the pocket, frozen over
the top. He's gonna give those guys an opportunity to
make plays. I was very impressed with him, and I
know what everybody said. It wasn't nobody but the Raiders.
But had they lost, he was gonna say, well, he
can't beat the Raiders, how is he gonna beat this team?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That team?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, we won't know how we'll do against this team
of that team, because we know the team that he
played today.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
He put butts in them.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well, listen, I'm a I'm a it was Raiders. It
was Raders. But what I saw from doing tonight, I
mean tonight, it looked good. There's there's room for improvement.
There's there's something that he could do well.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
He would also need his his supporting cast to help
him out. Jerry Judy, I know you want a dead leg, baby,
but just go ahead and get a young bullge.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Just go ahead and get out of the bounds, get.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Them yards that there was some throws I know she
would probably probably want to have back, especially that interception,
you know, staring down, staring down that stick route right
at the snap of the ball outside, Especially when you
can't run the ball. You can't run the ball and
make it dimensional. It's very very difficult on it's very
very difficult. But they were they were they were able
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to pull the wind off. I'm sure Shador is probably
not happy glad he got the win. But there's a
lot of stuff you can go back and look at,
and he'll watch film and see where he can improve on,
improve in certain areas. And I like the fact that
he not only got to start, he made he his
story today. He made here today, and he gets to
build on that going into next week. I'm not sure
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what's gonna happen with the fans, kid, if Dylan Gabriel's healthy,
if he's going to be the starter or not. You
know how they stuff like that is up in the air.
So I like the way he looked today. I mean,
I'm excited for him. I'm excited for him because the
offense looked different.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It just looked different.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They had a bounce about him. If you think about it,
they got and the defense did their part. They sacked
Geno Smith ten times. Oh, Joe ten, it was ten
ten Miles Garrett had three.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Miles. Garrett has eighteen sacks with six games to play.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Five more, right, five.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
More to break your record. If you keep singling him,
he gonna get thirty. He's got thirteen sacks in his
last four games.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah. Yeah, he gets in that sprintal stance. He getting
out like a track and get down on all fours. Yeah,
he comeing to hunt a quarterback. But I like the
fact that your door was looking to push the ball
down the field. And I think that's what they needed, guys,
because having been a receiver, bro, I want to get
down the field. I want to Hey, thought about Hey, look,
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I want to catch the ball. But all this shallow
cross and all these bubble screens and all that. But
come on, man, it's hard to methodically go down the field, Ojo.
And we're gonna talk about this the Chiefs going down
the field. They had thirteen seventeen twelve and they kicking
field goals. But it's hard, especially when you got a
young quarterback and to ask him to be perfect. Tom
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Brady could play like that. That's Tom Brady. He's not
gonna make those mistakes. But you're asking a first or
second year got young quarterback to say, okay, we want
you to be Basically we end up being somewhere of
twenty five or thirty three for two hundred and seventy
five yard three touchdown. Nah, you're asking him to do
too much. Let him take some chances. And I thought
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you do it. Did a great job of getting outside
the pocket on the one day scored on Ojo.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
He did a great job ows back.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
He's holding his safety just like this here the last
second he turns, and so by the time that guy
catches and gives up, just say, you're like, hold on,
if I come downhill, I ain't gonna get there, So
let me try to get him at a Nah, I
ain't gonna be able to get him because basically, when
he hit that scene, Joe, it was good night Irene.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
It was a rap.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, it was but level of twenty I mean, and
he was like, hey, that's one week of starting. Imagine
when I get an off season. Imagine when that call
plays specifically for me, Imagine, yeah, who's that John Lenning
and said, imagine all the people. But I thought he
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played really well. I thought he was really poor poised.
I thought, I know, it was great to see his
dad was in attendance. And Time was like, well, I
don't know, man, you know, Goodwill. Time wasn't missing that
one for nothing in the world. They could have been playing.
If Colorado had had.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
A game today, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Time would have like, man, you know, hey, I ain't
feeling too well. It would it would have snuckle when
snuck out here in Vegas to watch your son. And
that was that was great because you know, this is
really the first time that his dad's not coaching it.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
His dad's not around. Picking up the phone is one thing, but.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Being able to have a conversation face to face, it's
something entirely different. But I really really pleased with the
way he played. I thought he threw the ball really
really well. Isaiah Bond did a great job, Samson what
he called that? Yet I longed that sixty six yarder,
Like you said, Jared, Judy, bro, did you think he
was like? I mean, he was just oblivis, like, ain't
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nobody behind me?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I don't know what Judy would think about. I don't
know how you forget about the goddamn backside pretty much.
And you know, for Sue, you know they coming, now,
you know they coming? Hey, listen, I'm not sure he was.
It was three defensits in front of him, yes, and
he was getting ready to dead leg somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I know the setup.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But you got to understand, you got to have self awareness,
understanding surround us. Man, get that thing, get make a
big decision to take your ass out of bounds one
of the.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Other Yeah, yeah, get out of bounds. But look, I
know the receivers are happy. Oh yes, he's giving them
opportunity to make plays over the top. All that shallow
cross and bubble screens and all that we talked about earlier. Ojo,
this gives him an opportunity to push the ball down
the field and give them an opportunity to make some
big plays. After the game, Kevin Stefanski was noncammental on
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the starting quarterback for next Sunday's home game against the
forty nine ers Ojo.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
The video is gone viral online.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Here's Stefanski handing out game balls in the locker room
after the game.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Stayed resilient together. Like I told you, we needed.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
To write stay resilient together, and we fought together. How
about Gage's big putraturnal specialty. How about Corey every single
time you're out there pinning those guys doing your.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Job of facts.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Wasn't perfect, wasn't perfec How about that big play by save.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
It at the ends get I'd be huge play, Q
huge play, Harold making a big play and then another
rookie making his first start.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Nice jomp Shador.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Well there's that old saying save the best for last.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
How about that defense?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Holy is what I have to say about that ten
sacks play?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Our defense. Okay, I got one ball in my hand. Okay,
I got a guy. He's got to get a cold
every week. Okay, you had a cold this week.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Wasn't feel himself three sacks, which gives him eighteen on
the season for eleven games through eleven games, which breaks
his own Browns record. Miles Garrett, So I'll see you
guys in tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Hey, I'll see you one time.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I remember the age, so hold on. Yeah, I'm making
his first start. Yeah, that you didn't really want to
start a guy that you didn't want your organization, right right,
that's all he did, great Johnson.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, you don't get no game ball. Now, you don't
getting no game ball.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Uncle.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
That wasn't his pick. That's not what they want. They
don't want him to succeed. You know that, no respect
the owner told you. They only told you to himself.
Even the head coach, the head coach guy, the head
coaches guy is Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We all understand that. Listen.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Didn't you do it? Make history tonight?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Brown first rounds quarterback as a rook at the start
and win after what since what seventeen?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean you got to think about Ojo. They've had
forty two starting quarterbacks since nineteen ninety nine. No quarterback
making his first start. Yeah, the last seventeen has said.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
We didn't get it. They didn't get it done.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, well listen, it works the game ball o. Yo,
it's Clear's day. Now, it's Clear's day. Like I mean,
we've been going back and forth about this over and over.
Let nit picking the here and then people people say,
oh they hate they're not hating. Oh, Dylan Gables, listen
all that. We know what the play is. The writing
is on the wall. It's always been in the wall.
When when the owner came out and said what he
said about this not being my pick, this is brother
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Drew Barry, Drew Berry, right, is that he said, Andrew Barry,
Andrew Berry, excuse me, Andrew Barry was it was his pick,
it was his idea. I mean, we know what it is.
You know, the auds are stacked against you. The auds
are stacked against you. When the opportunity presents himself, he
has to go out there and do what he did.
Do what he did.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
The odds were stacked against him.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
He went out there and had a good game today,
much much more room for improvement. But he gave him
the opportunity to win. He allows him to have a
different style of offensive play calling when he's out there playing,
and that's all he can do.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh, Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I ain't saying you got to get a man in
a car. I ain't say that. I ain't saying you
got to pick the man up on it. I ain't
saying the team need to pick him up on his
shoulders and carry him off the field. But that little bit, oh,
you talking about big time catch hold on and this
is not a knock on. You have fanning, So don't
please don't take it this way. He had four catches
for forty yards. I mean he made two big I
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mean Shadua played his ass off level twenty eight, had
an interception. I thought he was very good. I thought
he was very good with his eyes. I thought he
was very good with his feet. Everything was attached. And
that's all you got for the man. Miles Garrett deserved five.
All the football that you brought to brought the Vegas,
give him to it. Say so we're gonna ship ball
all four of these damn football to your house in Cleveland,
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Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Whatever. Miles Garrett won't.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
As a matter of fact, Miles you want to pay,
you take your hands make of that getting more caught. Hey,
you need to get fifty million, and he'll get this
record as long as the Browns are able to keep
the game close where teams can't just run front the ball.
Excuse me, excuse me, as long as that as loan.
You see he got five last week. Why because for
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the large part of large portion of the game they
had to lead. So if the team got the lead,
over what you gotta do back in the game. When
you see what happened to night they jumped out on
the fourteen another fourteen to three. Now you got the
play aster the ball. You can't from first of all,
your run game is not good enough, and your offensive
line but not good enough to blow people off the ball.
So you got to throw it. And they got a
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good enough defensive line that you can't just double. I'm
doubling Miles Gart somebody else might get three sacks, but
it ain't gonna be here in him because he is
a guy that you game playing. Oh yo, we going
there on Wednesdays. They got him circle, he got red
ink around him. This is the guy that if we
don't block, he gonna tear our ass up. He will
destroy our game plan run or pass.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
With that being said, that man couldn't flip you doing football.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
O yo.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
You know the man wasn't flipping him no football. You know,
the man that that is not the individual that they
want at the helm.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
They made that clear long time ago.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
The game that they've been playing in training camp, him
not getting reps.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
We understand that.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
So therefore them, you actually wanted him to give him
credit after the game, that ain't happening. So to me,
it's it's not surprising to me because Okay, we already know,
we already know what it is. We know, we know
you're not our guy. I think Shador even knows that
as well.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
He's not tripping.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'm gonna prepare myself so when the opportunity presents itself,
the end result looks like today, the most important stat
that w that's all that matters.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
On a listen on the next week.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I see you Wednesday, Oh Joe, you and I have
both been in situation. And I know y'all probably the
last guy that y'all want to hear dating advice from,
but we all had We've all had the young.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Lady, Oh Joe. She was gorgeous, drop dead gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, come on, wait, take your time.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Was she I wanted her so bad? Yes? Yes, But
when it didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I realized the other one she was the best for me,
and I needed to give her credit because the one
that I wanted it didn't work out. I understand, Stefans,
you won't Dylan Gabriel, But you got to understand the
guy now is the best for you, and it's gonna
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give you the best opportunity to win because he is
unafraid to push the ball down the field, because in
this league that's how you win big plays. I just
I don't get it, o Jo. Sometimes you gotta, like
coachut to tell her. Sometimes I got a fooler. Sometimes
you gotta lie to your team, even if you don't
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like your doing, even if you won't Dylan Gabriel, you
won't commit.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I get all that, and I get the semantics. I
get the scheme of it. Ohoe, I don't want.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I want them to prepare for both, knowing damn well,
Dylan Gabriel ain't gonna see that field anytime soon. I
get all of that, But this notion that this thing
is even close, this notion that this was just a whole,
I mean a whole, a whole hum performance, right. The
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guy got no snaps with the guys that he played
with today until Wednesday of last week. Yeah, and he
does that on the road in a hostile environment, and
all you got for him is that.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
And and one thing about it, Listen, you have to
understand coaches had egos too. The owner has an ego too.
The owner and the coach not in calhoots. But they
both wanted their quarterback. They got their quarterback in the
third round. Things and things, things happen, things that work out.
Dylan Gabriel's hurt right now. There is no where in
hell they gonna sit on their hands and show the.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
World that they made a mistake. Ain't nowhere, ain't nowhere
in hell. That's not happening. It happened, though, Joe. It's happening.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
All made mistakes. The thing is not making a mistake.
Do you learn from it? Because remember, oh Yoe, mistakes
with our consequences, there's no lesson to be learned.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You have to understand.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
But how many consequences that they had in the last
what forty forty some years? This is this is the
forty fifth start. This is the forty fifth starting quarterback
for the Cleveland Browns. Since nineteen.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I don't even know forty second different starting quarterback. That's
forty some quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
So obviously they haven't learned their lesson regards to who
the owner is, who grabs, who the head coach is,
and that's how they see fit. We're going to continue
to prove that we made the right pick in the
third round by doing goddamn she do or saying this
somewhat of an injustice, and what they're trying to do
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is likely. The likelihood is probably gonna backfire. It's probably
gonna backfire and not work in their favor.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
All I'm saying is this, I believe the young man
played well enough today to earn another start, no matter
what you think about it, whether you like him or
dislike him, whether you like his brashness is arrogance or
his cockingess, or whatever the case may be. I don't
know whether you like or dislike his father. All I
know is he played well enough today and chat, hey, chat,
Cleveland Browns fans.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
At any point in time.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Did Dylan Gabriel play in his starts as well as
Shador played today. That's all I'm asking. That's what you
have to look at. Avatars when did you judge the starter, Ojo.
I'm not saying a starter could lose. They said a
starter can't lose his job due to injury. Mike Shanahan
said a starter can lose his job because if the
guy comes in and he's playing better than you at
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the time you got injured, that is our new starter.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I have a question, Yes, I have a question. Before
Dylan Gabriel had that concussion, he played six games, right,
he plays in six games.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yes, the best of my knowledge, Yes, okay, at six games.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So I mean it would be hard to compare compare
the two based on real time, real NFL games until
we have Shador play six games as well.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
See.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
The point is, well, Stefanski and that organization allows Shador
to continue to play them game because they don't want
him to prove them wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
That's what they don't want.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
That's why I think the game that them the Fancy's
gonna play is he gonna find out if Dylan Gaber
will he be able to go this week? So we're
not on the wrong on the on the wrong side
of being right.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Well, how about that is being wrong, O Joe, instead
of them, instead of him, let him play because maybe
he proves you right. Maybe all of a sudden he flocks.
I don't believe it will I believe that. I believe
the kid had two months MAXI. I believe that he
believes and the way he was brought up in and
what his dad has instilled in him, and he wants
to be great, not because of his father.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
He's like, my father did what he did.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, but he can't throw no passes for me. No,
he can't slide the line, he can't read anything for me.
Everything that I'm getting now is because it's my own.
I'm doing this, should do it, Sanders. And I love
my father, I love the last name that he bestole
to plun me. But at the end of the day,
he can't throw no passes.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
You do realize him on that owner and that head
coach don't want to be made to look like a
fool by putting this well by there and having twelve
continuously win you games.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You do realize that, right, Make me look like a
food and help me get to the playoffs. Make me
look like a fool and make me be a consistent winner.
Make me look like a damn food and maybe potentially
get me to the man, do you look do you
know if that if you're doing what to get that
get that team into the playoffs, get to the AMC
Championship Game. I'm not talking about this year. I'm talking
about let's just say in the next five years. If
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he were to do that and take that team to
a super Bowl, they'll build a statue. Yeah, I mean
it'll be Jim Brown, Otto Graham should do a Sanders.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You do realize the owner would look like a fool.
You do realize the fancy will look like a fool.
They do not want young bulls to succeed.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Well, if mayans think that damn food now to begin with.
So it don't matter what you look like, they already
think you are. Yeah, all you would do by keep
keeping this going because you so sometimes you got to
keep your mind closed because people will know how big
a damn fool you are. Yeah, I said, boy, keep
your mind closed. Sometimes people might thank you a fool.
But if you're over your mind, you're you'll remove all. Now,
so the Cleveland fans, they don't hold mister Haslam and
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the fans get in the highest regards, so there's not
a whole lot they can do to change that now
if you want to. Now, if you really wanted to
go booing and carry it on, take the young man
out of it.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Take the young man. Don't let him start next week.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Hey, well, now you know the game these folks playing.
You understand you you've been around long enough, so for
him to have the game, he had right to not
only get a game ball for Stefanski to get in
front of the media and still be noncommitted to who
wanted me to start the next week? What does that
tell you? We ain't gotdamn week twelve, were going into
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week thirteen. There's no need to be playing these mind games.
And if we ain't goddamn training camp, you know who
to fucking start. I'm sorry, you don't know who the.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Start is going to be.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's a game. It's a game at this point because
that's not who you actually wanted to help playing quarterback
for your franchise, because you don't want to look like
a goddamn fool.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Oh yo.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
There are very few people. They are very very few people.
With the first person that ras they're bury, Wait who then.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
My grandma say my grandma, say hey, bring that to me,
say that to me. There are very.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Few people that are that are with the person that
initially ras they're bury you be driving the mart You're like, damn,
I ain't never heard that one vote, you know, don't
worry about it.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But anyway, hold on, hold on, no, no, you don't
skip over with me like that.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Give it to me in English now, O jo a Barry, right,
I know Barry.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Jews yeah, Jews, Yeah, yes, a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
How many people that are married or in a serious
relationship that person that they're in that relationship, that is
the first person that piqued their curiosity, that is the
first person that they love, that is the first person
that they wanted to be with. Okay, so third, fourth, fifth,
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Okay, I get it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, so in a situation like that, Okay, but you
know what, just for GP, just to endure to do
unbelievable job, game ball for you?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Right, yes, yes, yes, yeah, you do that when it's
actually the person you actually want, that's a that's a difference,
you understand, that's it. Hold on, you're using that analogy
wrong to un.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
No, because my grandma used to say, my grandmother used to.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Say what you said, Barry, it's cherry, no raspberry.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
You don't ras my berry, which means he don't excite me,
don't worry about it, you'll get it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Hey, hey, that that must be some downside. I ain't
never heard of that. I'm saying down here. It is more
like cherry the first pop my cherry. So you yeah, first,
you don't rasp my berry.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You don't fight me. I like that.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
That's different from I get it. Your door might not
might not have excited them in the beginning. They was
more excited about dealing Gabriel. But at the end of
the day, who makes you wholesome, who makes you? Who
makes your house feel like a home? Who when you
get excited, when you when when you need someone to
talk to and say, you know what, I'm gonna love
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you through all those scars, and I know you got
a lot of them, but come lay your head on me,
and I'm gonna make it okay. That's what this young
man had the potential of doing. Give him an opportunity.
That's what we because a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
We visual, man, We are very visual. Yeah, if you
exports you a big what do I see?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Man? He could throw the ball a hundred.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's why they make so many mistakes at the quarterback
position on Joe, because what can he do? He can
throw them all eighty yards. I saw him on one
knee throw them all sixty yards and hit them up right?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
How many times?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Then be one kneecause if he down on one knee,
that means he down already, so the ball will be incomplete.
With all that being said, a lot of times we
get in awe about what we see. Sometimes the esthetic beauty,
long hair flagship has body. Oh she got Greek degree
stacked on top of the greed uh huh. But sometimes
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it's what's on the inside, is what we can't see,
that's the determining factor.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Tom Brady ain't had no aesthetics.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
He couldn't run fast, he couldn't jump high. Yes he
didn't have He didn't have no awe like Mahomes with
Josh Allen. But what you couldn't see, yes, sir, made
him deadly.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
See.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Sometimes we get we look at the black mamba. The
black mama is not the most dangerous snake in Africa.
It's not even dangerous as the bloom slang or the
common brown in Australia or the Western or the coastal Taipan.
But he had the name. You see them at the
black number. Now he will attack without provocation. Most snakes
that are venomous, they won't attack without provocation. That's what
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makes him so deadly because it is one of the
few snakes that will tack without provocation.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
May get that man a damn game ball.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
It ain't your game ball any damn Way's like you
buy no footballs.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
He got me hot up in here.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I see he don't.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Don't.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Don't let your emotions get the best say you.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Because you think you're mad right now? You think you
mad right now?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Wait until Wednesday and watch the games they play.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Ohay, you remember that song Choe.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
If you're taking lonely, now wait until the night. If
you think I'm mad now, like you say, wait until Wednesday.
They talk about Mary kay Cabin. Come out there and
says Dylan Gabriel is take a snap, boy, I'll break
up everything.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I tell you.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I tell you one thing. You might well get the
breaking right now. You might as well get the breaking
right now because you you understan, you understand the NFL.
You know the games that they play, especially when the
owners come out at the beginning of the season, excuse me,
at the beginning of the season, matter of fact, in
training camp and saying a certain individual is not his
draft pick. That he did say that, Yes, he came
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out and said it. So what does that that lets
you know already what the player is gonna be for
the for see of your future? As long as twelve
is there.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
The outcome that everybody expected.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
The Patriots beat the Bengals by the score of twenty
six to twenty Mike Grabiles New England Patriots became the
first NFL team to reach ten wins. Joe Flacco, Ocho, Chad,
y'all remember I told Ocho, I said, Ocho, Joe Flacco.
He goes start out hot, right, I mean, he gonna
be hotter than he's gonna be hotter than four foxes
in the forest fire.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
But the turnover machine, now.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Now he turned over. He turned it over one time today.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
He turned it. Listen.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Hey, I know, hey, listen, and you know, you know
it's funny. You know it's funny too. Hey that dB cheated.
He wasn't where he's supposed to be. You know that
he cheated up. He stayed up much closer. How could
you not, as a quarterback not see that out the
usually a peripheral, but there was a two shell instead
of instead of going back, and he's supposed to be
at he's sitting down at the line of scripts.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I'm like, man, what is he doing, Joe? Because guess what? What?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Got a little pressure and he throwing late? What happened
when you throw late to the flat?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
It was going the other way every time? Okay, every time? Yeah,
But but listen, the Patriots, the Patriers had. The Patriots
had one hell of a game. They had a good game.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Said Drake may Do, Hey, Drake may do. Jeremy I
got Drake may I got ya. Kobe Brissett, I said,
what you call him? I'm gonna get no TD.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
T Higgins, y'all better be on that prime pick you
made JSC and I say, JS an't gonna have it
at least ninety four got I said that. Okay, you
said that, Okay, I said, Jakoby Brissett, we're.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Gonna have boot. Got that. Drake may playing the Bengals,
got that? I said, T.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Higgins wasn't gonna get no touchdown, no kind of way
because Gonzales.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Had it because he got hurt.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
The feelings.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Hey, but listen, we honestly, well, technically, you know my
team won. Then basically, whoa, whoa?
Speaker 7 (37:25):
What?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Talk about you? Your team? Who your team? You know?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I play with the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
U he played with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Y'all hear the chat? Hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on. I'm just saying I played there.
I played there. Listen, I played there, you know, towards
the end of my career. I were Oh, I was
old as hell, but I played there. You know, you know,
I had to kick the tires a little bit, but
I was there. Chat, What's up here with this man
just saying? I'm just saying it is what it is.
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It's in the books. You the one, You the one
been telling me. Listen, you play with the Patriots, you know. So,
I mean, I'm just throwing it out there. I'm I'm
I'm still a Bangle. I'm still a Bangle. I'm still
a Bango fan at heart.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
But I never knew. Yeah, I mean, listen, you.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Know, honestly, I love everybody the Patriot.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
You told me, you told me you played with them Bangles,
and your heart and your team that you grew up
watching the Miami Guppies, right right, No two teams. Honestly,
what about you went to the super Bowl with the
big with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, you know, you know I said that because I
ain't really do nothing.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I was there.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I would like decoration like Christmas time, you know how
your little ornament on the tree, you know, to on
them on the tree. He really there, but he ain't
really got no no, no, well doing like the starters
at the top. You feel me, Yeah, you know, my
days was really over. I was just out there like okay,
this is why they went all the time, you know,
and you know, having a good time to join the ride.
I ain't really get you know, to be productive or
nothing like that. So I don't really want to claim nothing.
(38:52):
I ain't really get no work in you.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Sure hope y'all got on that prize pig or that
paray I had. I said that thing out that night
for y'all. I got another one coming for you.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Hey, you know what I want to see too? Unc
Now we talk about the Bengals two and that got
damn h Mitchell Tinsley. Yeah, that got damn Mitchell tinsey
Man every time every time Young Bull in the game,
he making a play. Hey, I need I need to
see him man. Since then, since since the preseason when
he made that one handed catching end zone, every time
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he in the game and he making a play. Unk,
I'm talking about every time that day he beat Gonzo.
He beat Gonzo at the line of swimming. Hey, I'm
about setting like, I'm.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Like, hey, and you know at that at that position,
O Joe, you stop your feet of the corner.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's over.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
It's a rock, it's around over. Yeah, you got you
got to keep your feet alive. You got to keep
you feed the live. So I would love to see
him get a little bit more burn. Ti Higgins went
out to day, Chase.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Is coming back over Burton.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I think jam and Burton, I think it's over, O Joe,
you think so Insinsey. I'm not saying it's over for
him in the NFL, but I think it's times up.
And then he's another healthy scratch again get down the receiver,
Chase and they don't get Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, I don't know what's going on in that area,
you know. I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think
Chase and he did what they could to take him
under his wing. I'm really not in the facility. I
don't know the personal things that may be going on,
but I know he's an extreme talent. He's an extreme talent, simmon.
I'm not not comparing him to Pickings. I'm just speaking
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on He has a lot of upside, a lot of potential,
and I hope he gets on the right check at
on the right track at some point, even if it's
not in Cincinnati, because he can be tremendous. He can
be tremendous for some team once you get things going.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Oh yoall the Ravens beat the Jazz.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
The Ravens have gone for one in five start the
first place tie in the AFC North. Despite Lamar not
had his MVP form, Lamar has been held on the
two hundred yards passing for three straight games for the
first time in five years. He also is going back
to back games without a touchdown pass for the first
time in six years. Lamar was asked if he felt
for he helped fully himself in the recent weeks and
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if injuries are holding him and the offense backs. He says,
I can't call it, but I'm out there, so I
feel like I should still be able to do what
I do. I feel like we just need to execute
a lot better. We're getting great field possession, but we're
not putting points on the board, and that has nothing
to do with no injury. One of the biggest changes
in the game has been the decreation Russian. He holds
the record for the most rushing yards by a quarterback,
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and he's averaging a career low twenty nine, less than
thirty yards rushing per game.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And Deck Henry they carried to oh yo.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Normally this is when you see the Ravens run the
ball thirty four times, it's normally two hundred plus yards. Yes, sir,
they ran the ball thirty four times a day, less
than one hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I mean, hey, listen, it's something weird about this season.
It's something weird about this season when it comes to
certain teams that were used to seeing be very dominant,
especially offensively, the Chiefs, it looks weird. It looks very weird.
The Baltimore Ravens, it looks weird. You know, even even
when they were healthy they started out oh and too,
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they started to so they really haven't been able to
get themselves in the groove before Lamar got hurt. But
the fact that they've been able to come back and
dig themselves out of hole, and Lamar being back now,
it gives them a chance. No matter what, they will
always have a winning chance as long as eight is
back there. As long as they back there, they're going
to be all right. At some point that offense is
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going to have to hit their stride. They're going to
have to their strike. But the defense is playing a
little better as opposed to how they are as opposed
to how they look at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
I don't want to put too much. I don't want
to put too much because they played the canoe.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Let's let's okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, let's a
you called okay, I got you? I got you.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I mean they had twenty fifth cares for seventy six yards. Yeah,
but for the Ravens to run up for the Ravens, uh,
Lamar was thirteen or twenty three. Oh the hot reader
stud of Go So Sweet, and he threw it out
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, did you see. I don't know if you saw that.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Oh Joe the hot Redder study go, Oh Joe her
he run a stutter so sweet.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, and he missed him and Lamar missed him.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yeah, I ain't see I ain't see that play.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, let me get my charger. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Lamar was thirteen or twenty three one fifty three, no
touchdowns nor exception.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
He was sacked once.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Deck Henry had twenty one carries for sixty four yards. Again,
as I mentioned, they had thirty four rush attempts for
ninety eight yards, but they did have two touchdowns. Deck
Henry did get the ball in the m zone twice,
but offensively for something that they just they seem to
be off and I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Uh, well, this is this is this is this is
Lamar what it's only a second his third week back, right.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, it' probably about his third week back.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Yeah, third week back. I mean, I mean as he goes,
the rest of the team goes. So as when he
gets back into rhythm and he starts feeling that confidence
back again, then I think everything will pick up.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Well, he's gonna have to teams beat the Colts for
two quarters, including overtime. Chris Jones and the rest of
the defense dominated the Colts offense, which allowed the Chiefs
to exit Arrowhead with a much needed twenty three to
twenty comeback victory. After the game, it looked like Mahomes
took a shot at the chief coaching staff when he praised.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Lou Almarulo Almarulo Ojo. Take a listen to what Mahoon
Boy had to say.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
Yeah, they definitely do some of the stuff. I mean
that coach Romo is a great defensive coordinator, great coach,
and he has this stuff. But I think what makes
him such a great defense coordinators he kind of tailors
his team. Taylor's his scheme to the team that he
is playing with, and so he wants to go with
their strengths and so getting their guys the best position
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to succeed. And even from some of the trades they may,
they've adjusted their defense as well, and so I think
that's that's something that makes him a great coach is
that he's not stuck in his ways of how he
calls the thing. He adjusted his scheme to the team
that's around him. And obviously they've done a lot of
great things this year.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
If you go back and study Ojo, if you look
at them, what defense has given Patrick Mahomes the most
trouble The Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
It was their coordinator, the guy that's.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
At And you know what's funny is you think about
how difficult the Chiefs and the Bengals games are, how
difficult they make it for Patrick Mahomes, and look at
what he has to work with over there in Indianapolis, Yes,
supporting casts, the players he has to be able to
pull off, making those games even more difficult as opposed
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to the Bengal defense, which most consider, you know, to
be bad, you know in the sin So I mean
to Davious Ward, God damn sauces out there, Zion Franklin.
They got a really really good scar, really really good squad.
When when when Buckner coming back.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I don't know that the possibility he might not come back. No,
not this year.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah oh he man, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
He's he's the he's.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
The disruptor, he's the he's the he's the guy that
you circle says, Okay, we got to deal with him.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
But but Mahome, Mahomes almost almost you know, I think
he was trying to do too much. Mahone was trying
to be Superman today.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
He missed the pros Hollywood Brown had sauce beat bad
on the ball and Mahomes missed it. He had trave
on a on a on the uncovered quick and he
missed it. He had Juju on the over route and
he missed it. So there's some opportunities that are there
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that Mahomes normally wouldn't miss. Good thing rush she right
showed up today. Uh, Kareem Hunt. Look, Kareem's gonna get
your tard hard fault yards. Yeah, he's not. He's not
what he was like his rookie his first two years.
Oh joe, he's not that guy. But he's solid. He's
gonna get you some hard fault yards, some hard ones,
some hard three. He'll break a tackle good on the
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gold line. But oh joe, the problem that they're having
is that when they get into the red zone. O Joe,
they had a seventeen play drive settle for three. They
had a fourteen play drive settle for three, had a
thirteen play drive settle for three. They had a fourteen
play drive settle. Oh Joe, you know this. You kick
phield goals, you get your ass kick if you score
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a touchdown. Now you really really put pressure on an
opposing team. That is the problem. The problem is they
used to be automatic when they got into the redson
o yo.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Every time, hold on, not only automatic when they got
into the red zone. On the creativity between Patrick Mahomes
Andy Reid, it was unbelievable. Remember all the tricks they
used to do, all they go around and doing all.
You know, dude, that's not working anymore because now the
film is out there, him is out there, So it's
a little different. Everything is a little bit more difficult. Yeah,
you know, once you know, want three super Bowls already,
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it's the same offense. Everybody's seen almost everything you have
to you have to day, so therefore it become that
much more difficult. People were talking, Okay, the Chiefs were
down there, five and five, they're five hundred for the
first time, and who knows how long.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
But again, keep talking. My computer's messing up. Do something,
but do keep going, keep going, keep talking about the.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Chief Okay, anyway, Chad, listen, I think when it comes
to the Chiefs, right, as bad as they've been this year,
they're five and five. Obviously we're not used to them
being five and five, but they're gonna be all right.
Anytime you have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes. Anytime you
have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, he can put that
team on his back. Similar to what he did today.
He almost lost the game a little bit because he
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was trying to do too much, trying to do too much,
trying to be too man, trying to carry the load himself.
The commentators talked about it. I'm sure he knows as well.
But Rashi Rice had one hell of a god damn today.
Day to day he was eight foot he had what
eight for one one kareem hunt with thirty one four
and shoot, that's it, so chatty, just me and y'all right, Now,
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welcome to night cap with O Cho.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Are you still there?
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Are you back back?
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (49:19):
You good? I got it the rest of the way,
go ahead and chill.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
The Chiefs had a seventeen play drive sixty four yards,
three points down eighteen. They had a thirteen play drive
that took eight minutes and twelve seconds three points. They
had a ten play drive that eighty four yards eighty
one yards three points five, and then they had five.
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Then they fumbled. Then they had an eleven play drive
eleven eleven play drive that resulted in a touchdown, and
then ohoe. The end of the game, they had a
fifteen play drive. Yeah, for eighty seven yards, and at
that point in time they were just trying to get
it to get got the field goal and then the
field goal to end to win the game.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Oh joe, another twelve plays.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
So that's twelve let's say twenty seven, thirty, forty one,
forty six, fifty one, fifty four, sixty four, seventy seven,
ninety four. They had ninety six plays. Let me see it,
my man, because I was quick in my head, you
know what. Try you know I'm saying. You know, I'm
just I'm just, you know, I'm speeding do the things.
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Let me see.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
The hell they had ninety one.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
So minus the penalty, they had ninety ninety one actual
actual plays.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Oh, you don't normally see that many plays in an
NFL game.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
No, not today.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Sixty five seventy is is the norm.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, sixty sixty five is norm. Ninety one actual call plays?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, it's crazy. Damn. What what what do you think?
Speaker 3 (51:02):
What do you think the issue is with the Chiefs
not being able to score once they get into the
red zone. They were automatic before.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Okay, they run they won the wildcat with Travis Kelsey
and then you know John's uh pulled the guy's helmet.
They call it back, So you got to settle for
a field goal. Words before they were, like you said,
the creativity. They were able to get the ball into
the end zone some razzle dazzle play, flip it here there,
you know, shovel pass to the tight end, shovel pass
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to the back. They will always quick screen, you know,
jail quick screens get the ball into the end zone.
Now it's a struggle once they get inside the twenty
because now it's condensed and so and they're not getting
the home run because you remember old used to remember
how they used to complete the big play over the top.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
They had Tyree.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Now once they got rid of Tyree, the offense completely
changed because they have anybody that can get.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Over the top the top. Yeah, everything with like ding
ping ping ping, ping ping ping.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
And the funny thing about it, even though they had
the pingett and t I called I'm gonna call that
Tikki taker. They had the Tiki taker all the way
down and goddamn field. But because you have packtic mahomes,
you're still able to have success just doing that because
you can make the right decisions with the ball and
not make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
But see what happens when you play that type of game,
o Jo, you gotta be perfect.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
You see.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
The thing is, I mean, he tried to go with
a quick pass. Guy gets his hands up, picks it off.
Now he's got the ball. They got the ball in
one yard line. That's now, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, and see, but here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
What did they telling the mojo The ball's gonna come
out quick, So get your hands up.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Get your hands up.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Yeah, Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
Upcoming schedule at Cowboys, Taxes at home, Chargers at home
at Titans, Broncos at home at Raiders. A schedule again,
Thanksgiving at Cowboys, then that Sunday Night football, they get
(53:07):
the Texans at home, then they got Raiders at home.
Then they're on the road Texans, excuse me, Titans. Then
Christmas they get the Broncos and then TVD Raiders. Damn well,
by that time the Raiders, everybody be living in everybody
(53:27):
be living in the hotel because they be then to
pack their stuff up.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
They ready to go. O yo.
Speaker 3 (53:33):
Hey, Well, honestly, listen, if you playing Vegas, it really
ain't no, ain't no need to really rush back home
if you in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
But you just want to get away, O yo, because
you've been in the grind. You've been you've been here.
I just want to get away. I can always come back,
but I'm done right.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
I got you, I got you, I got you, I
got you.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
The forty nine Ers beat the Panthers twenty to nine.
Krista McCaffrey against the old team that he used to
play for that drafted him as a top ten pick
out of Stanford. CMC had one hundred and forty two
yards from scrimmage. He had eighty nine of those yard
twenty four carries eighty nine yards long of seventeen one touchdown.
He had seven kedules for fifty three yards. So he's
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on pace oho to do something that only Heed, Roger
Craig and Marshall Faulk has ever done rush and received
four thousand yards in a single season. All those guys
did they those guys did it once. If McCaffrey stays
on the pace that he's on, he'll do it for
the second time. So something very very special. If something
bears watching. Oh, here's the forty nine er schedule at
(54:41):
Brown's times at home, at Coats, bear Seahawks at home,
So they got a pretty nice schedule. They got what
what is that, twelve twenty two, so that's a Monday
night They got the Coats on Monday Night football, and
then they followed that up nbc A five to twenty games,
so that's a.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
That's a Sunday night game.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
So but this game, O Yo party party was pretty awful.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Listen not only was pretty awful, though he threw in
the septs in the first half.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
J C.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Horn played out his goddamn mine, the defense played out,
they got damn mine, and the Panthers offense it failed
us tonight. On the Panthers offense failed us tonight. I'm
not sure what was wrong with Bryce Young and team
McMillan and some of the receiving Jimmy Horn, but they
were off their communication this far into the season. You
shouldn't be having mental errors like that or or mistakes.
(55:38):
Mistakes like that, especially in the passing game because he's
throwing the players that are running one route and the
players are going a completely different way. Yeah, so a
lot of players were missed down on the gold line.
Bryce there was no need to throw that ball, but
you got you've got none of green grass in front
of you.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
But even if he throws, the thing is, you know
when you roll out o yo, you cut half to
feel off. So now they're flowing. They first of all
down there. Oh Joe, you're not finna throw it all
the way back pyline. You rolled into your right. You've
got to release that ball. You don't have to take
a full roll because the further you roll, the field
get condensed more if more condensed. Yes, that's why the
(56:16):
guy on the front side was able to fall off,
because you brought the bright side tight end to him.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
You got to throw that ball earlier. Yeah, you run
out of real estate. He didn't. He didn't even have
to throw the ball at all.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
But you wants nothing but green grass in front of him,
nothing but green grass in front of him. Obviously his
eyes were locked in on the receiver and in the
back of the end zone.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Outside of that.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
This isn't. This isn't This wasn't Panther football tonight. This
is not this is not the this is not the
Carolina Panthers that we've we've been watching that when the
last five of their last five of this last seven
games that they lost one to night. But it wasn't good.
The defense did what they needed to do. Offense. Offense
left left a lot of points, a lot of players
(56:59):
out there on the field.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
Yeah, I thought that.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I thought Carolina got away from the running game a
little bit too early.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
They didn't have the ball a whole lot. Uh what
looked like they had the ball forty two total plays.
That's not a whole lot. But when you look at it,
O yo. I think the thing is is that let's
let's let's talk to forty nines first.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, Jennings.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
When you run, when you run that that over route,
if you gain ground, you're gonna allow that corner back
to jet it or undercut you.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
And that's what he did, the dig route, the dig rock.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Oh Joe, you can't. You can't run that now.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
If you run that route like that, if you gain ground,
he gonna right up under.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
You, especially somebody like Jase Horn. Jesse has someone that
that that is as sound as him. He has good eyes,
good discipline, and he's gonna play. He's gonna he gonna
stay on hes gonna stay on your inside hip every time.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Yeah, get it right.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
He rounded by damn that four five years.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
I'm like, you.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Gotta keep, you, gotta keep, because once I got it
here with you, I got to keep him on my
head up, yeah, because if I let him up underneath
on that square square in, that's what it's called squad.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
It's a square in, square out square, So on.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
That square on you, I gotta keep him on my
hip because if I give him, if I give him
any leeweight, he's gonna undercut it, or he might grab
me and slingshot himself, grab me by my waist, pull
himself forward right there underneath the throat.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
And you know what another thing that a lot of
receivers need to get out of doing too, Uncle, They
get them top of them routes they doing doing all
that wiggle. They do that wiggle instead of just getting it,
getting up to your point and just snapping that thing off.
When you play against a good corner, I'm talking about
the good ones. And when you do that wiggle, all
they do is they stop their feet. So if they
stop in their feet and you sitting there wiggling.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
He's gonna drive on it. Let me ask your question.
You can't do that with the good dvs. Let me
ask your question.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
You run a go ball like that, so you get
to you get a ten yards and now you all
of a sudden, you're.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
Doing this on the go ball.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
No, everything it's got, it's gotta look the same every time.
Everything got to be. Even if you don't run full speed,
give the illusion, give the illusion that you are running
full speed. Get the way you got to and snap
that thing. Of all them tricks and all that. It
works on your average corners. But when you go against
the best, the better DB's, the j C Horns, you know,
the passertain the Denzel Awards. You not pulling that off,
(59:20):
they gonna get that. Yeah, any indication you give them
they stopping their.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
Feet and you're driving, yes, because that's the indicator you get.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
I mean, you know you're taught to give an indicator
to your quarterback, but you're also giving an indicator to
your to the dB. Also, McMillan, there's a reason why
we say you to keep your arms tight. You see
how he got his arms out, what that dB do
ojo put tugging where he would have been. He hit
twenty seven right in the chest. That's why they tell
you to keep your arms tight because.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
They grabbing anything always. They're gonna grown and.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
They're not gonna call it every goddamn time.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
They're not gonna call it. They're not gonna call it.
But this was a really floppy game. I was surprised
how sloppy the game was. Party did not look good tonight.
Twenty three or thirty one touchdown, three interceptions.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Uh, that that was just awful.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
That was just off of his defense bailed him out
because they got to turnover and then Bryce Young comes
right back and gives it right back to him. They
got to look, Carolina really has a very small margin
for era. Yes, because they're such a young team, and
they're not they don't they don't have top five talent
(01:00:31):
at any position on the offensive side of the football. Okay,
so with that being said, you can't do what they
did tonight. You can't turn that ball over like that
on the road, No excuse.
Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
You can't. You can't, especially not with the way the
defense is playing. You can't keep putting the defense out
there on the field, putting them in harm's way. Obviously,
when they they're getting stops, you getting the ball, you
had turn them on. They got three points off of
three turnovers. They got three points off of three turnovers.
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
You got, you got.
Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
You got to get more than that, because they give
me the ball back and give you the opportunity to
not with the game away, but at least extendedly enough
to have a chance on the back end.
Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
And they give you and give you short feels. Yeah,
you got to get something.
Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
You got to get something more than Okay, let's just say,
for the sake of argument, Oh, how you're only gonna
get three out of each one? Okay, that's nine points.
But you gotta come away well three turnovers. You got
to come away with more than three points.
Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Something.
Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
You got to It'll be nice if you cash one
of one of those guys in for a tug. But
three points. And like I said, I just didn't I
thought they ran. I didn't think they ran the ball enough. Yes,
I mean you got Dalbo back there. You got you
a Hubbard run the football.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
And I know you're probably thinking about whether you know,
they don't have those pass rushers, they don't have Bosa, uh,
you know, warners not in there.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
There's some things that we can take advantage of.
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
They don't have the most outstanding corners run the football.
Run the football. That is your that is your friend.
When you're on the road, you need to run the football.
But the forty nine of Look, the forty nine ers
keep there. They got to stay attached to the Rams
and the Seahawks eight and four right now, So with
(01:02:06):
that's when they leap. They leap over Detroit for the
seventh seed. Not Detroit falls back to the eighth seed.
But they haven't had their by yet. I think Detroit's
had their bye. Haven't Detroit had their buy? Because Detroit
seventy four, So that means they had to buy already.
(01:02:33):
Because the forty nine ers haven't had there. That's why
they're twelve. Yeah, they're like, we might go ahead run
this thing all the way through.
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
And yeah, it was. It was a it was a
sloppy game on you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
I expected the forty nine ers to play a lot
would be a lot crisper than what they were. Hell,
I thought Bryce Young considering what he had came, what
he had done. I mean, what that four for? Who's
that against the Falcons?
Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Had they were down fourteen and came back?
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yeah, so he had he had started to play really well.
I really like McMillan's game. McMillan is really good. He
can really really play oho and he's only gonna get better.
He's doing this in his rookie season, so I can
just imagine in two or three years what he's gonna be. Like, Hell,
he might who knows, he might even take a leap
like a JSN did. Now I'm not saying, look that
that's I'm not saying that's gonna happen. But he's on
(01:03:27):
pace to have over two thousand yards on one hundred
and twenty five catches. So he's he's doing he's and
he's in that zone right now. I just wanted once
you Jo, you know where you got a special season going.
Everything just seems to go your way and catch every
deep ball care m you catching everything just just it's
just zening. It's just perfect. Whatever. McCaffrey. Oh, oh, that's
(01:04:01):
why they was fighting. Huh at the end of the game.
Oh okay, oh ah man Jennings, that's why they were
fighting at the end of the game. But dB punched
him into the the fire pole.
Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Oh I missed that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I missed that. Yeah, yeah, that's that's why at the
end of the game.
Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Yeah, I was I was setting it up.
Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
That's gonna cost him, that's gonna cast him a find.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I mean, that's gonna probably cost him like twenty five
fifty thousand.
Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
Holder.
Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
What kind of fight we talked about, like like a
little shoving.
Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Well he put Jenny's was blocking in and he ah, okay.
So at the end of the game, they got into
a little tussle. But you know, they got cameras so
they see all that. Theek the refs might have not
called it, but them twenty two cameras they.
Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Got, Yeah, they called it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Gonna see it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So don't
even don't even Hey, save your time, don't they Hey
that tuesday that you was gonna call in to appeal.
Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
That yeh, go golfing.
Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Don't waste the time.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Yeah yeah, go golfing because it ain't gonna help. But yeah,
this was this was a game I thought would be
a little better. Uh. It wasn't clean, I mean, but
you get five five total turnovers, sloppy game, slapping game.
But the forty nine Ers win moved to eight and
four Carolina six and six, uh, San Frae twenty Carolina
(01:05:18):
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