June 27, 2025 • 40 mins
TJ Houshmandzadeh & James Harrison react to Aaron Rodgers saying this season with the Steelers will likely be his last NFL season, and break down the secrets to NFL training!
01:47 - Introduction
03:15 - Working Out
27:41 - Steelers/ARod
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Man, welcome tonightcat.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
This is day three of the hijacking that me and
my boy Jake Well not the hijack, and I don't
want to even use that term the takeover.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Think three of the takeover. I'm TJ Houshmazada.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's James Harrison and later on in the show we'll
be joined by Keeley Ringo, defensive back from Eagles went
University of Georgia.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Uh from Las Vegas, Nevada.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
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Speaker 1 (00:57):
We got the link to mister uh Well, y'all seeing
anybody that was tuned in yesterday or last night. He
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go ahead and support my boy in his d baut gear.
He's dressed appropriately now, he's not trying to scare anybody
(01:19):
to show off them uh all them muscles he got.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So he got a little T shirt on today, So
we good to go. First off, its good, man, always good.
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Had to do the same thing I do every day, workout.
They ain't gonna work more boys out. They had to
do some field work today. So I did my son
the opportunity to get out there and and test out
his ankle that he had us so secre repair.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So he's doing good.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Speaking of you boys, I don't know if we touched
on this yesterday or not. How is it now that
they're of age and you can actually get on the field,
get in the weight room.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Work out with them instruction?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Are you want to ask are you kind of letting
uh the dude you trained with because I don't know him,
but we're.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Gonna get in. We're gonna we're gonna get in the end.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Also, but how is that just like working out with
your sons now, I'll work out with one of them,
if someone with training the other one, and then I'll switch,
you know, day to day. And to be honest with you, man,
it's all depending on what I'm getting from him.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
If I'm a you know, jump on my butt or not.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I usually have to jump on my youngest buttery a
little bit more than I do my oldest. I really
don't have to jump on my oldest at all, be
honest with you. He's he's more, he's more like me.
He loves to do it. He wants to, you know,
try and do it to the best of the best
of his abilities. And you know, he wants to try
and get stronger every day. My younger one, I just
(02:47):
gotta I gotta push him a little bit. He's he's
just now breaking through the point where he's getting used
to the burn to hurt, you know, the pain that
you got to go through to to build. And you know,
he's he's learning appreciation for it. So it's a little
more motivation, uh, talking to him. Of course, it's in
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my words, my language. It's not for everybody else's kids
for me to coach them, because I coach my kids
as if their mind and if I was to coach yours,
I'm gonna do the same thing if that's what you're
looking for.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But that's the only way I know how to do
a position.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I got linebacker, running back and h safety running back. Okay,
And so I don't know Ian, but I feel like
I know him because of U n R C R
C being Ryan Clark.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
How did that?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Because you, where do you doing in Pittsburgh. I'm just
so I assume I assumed you were still living in Pittsburgh.
But you know they say when you're as you live
in Pittsburgh in if I'm not correct, in Arizona. So
you not playing and you still travel to Arizona to
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train with end obviously now your boys. But even when
you were retired, you were just going out there to
get However, many weeks in what even have back. So
after I was done, I had a workout app that
I had out, so I was doing a lot of
filming for that, and uh, you know, in the process
of building out that I happened doing all the exercises,
so I could have to you know, the whole platform,
(04:23):
ready to go and do all that. But you know,
it's uh, you know, that's like my vacation. You know,
most people they want to go to it. You know,
if they want to go to Florida or somewhere, they're
going to go out and eat and party and do
all that. I want to go to the gym. You know,
if I take a vacation, I'm not leaving no more
than three days. If it ain't got a gym, I
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may not leave at all, Like it's not happening. Like
if I can't get to a gym, we ain't going nowhere.
Like I when did you start training with the end
When in your career?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
What year in your career training?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I was saying, So here's something, so two thousand I
think it was nine. Yeah, sorry, two thousand, oh yeah,
right now, yeah, two thousand and nine, twenty ten. I
started with him, And the big reason I started with
him was he was doing a lot of soft tissue
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work for me. That's when I hurt my back. I
ended up having to get surgery at the end of
the season, and they locked us out. So after I
got the surgery, they locked us out so I couldn't
do none of my therapy anywhere, and I ended up
doing all my therapy here in Arizona with him. And
from that time, you know, for I had just I
(05:39):
just got stronger and stronger.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I got layer and laner.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, he helped me to actually really dial in
my diet and understand what it is that I needed.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
To eat, shouldn't eat.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
There amounts that I could eat, and you know, come
to realize, like you could smash as much he said
anything that you know, runs flies or swore.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Could you can almost eat as much.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
As that, you know, as you want, and then you know,
stay away from anything that I was a you know,
that was a car and I basically went into almost
like a keto dye and dude, I I wasn't close
to working out as hard as I could because I
was recovering from the.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Surgery and doing the therapy of it.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But you know, I dropped down to almost you know,
eight percent body fact in that time, runs flies and swim,
So I get that part of it. So what about
the fruit because that ain't running, flying of swimming. You
can't eat all the fruits you want? Or is it
because it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Carves.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's just you know, it's what they call good sugar,
but it's still carves.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So oh man, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Then I would get like four weeks where it would
just be zero. Any cars that I got was from
the meat and you know whatever else. And then you
would be allowed to get like a you know, like
a half cup of bears. So the only thing that
you know, I was a live was berry so blackberries,
blueberry strawberries. That was the lowest, man, I just ate
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the whole thing a blueberry. I mean blackberries, whole thing,
just by myself right now, I don't know I whatever
I can. I mean, look at you. You one of them
dudes that can eat whatever. Don't gain no way, don't
you know what I'm saying, Like I hate y'all. Well,
no mixed, but I don't like, no, this would happen.
Let me so when we when I retired, I didn't
(07:30):
go to the I didn't go to the doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Bro, no, lie.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Last year was twenty twelve. I went to the doctor.
The first time I went to the doctor after I
retired was twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And I retired in twenty twelve. Right, I'm not lying.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Got all that you paying for insurance and I ain't
using it right, And so I go to the doctor. Boom,
everything fine, no problems. So he was like, we gonna
do your blood work. So I go do my blood work.
And then he called me like a week later and
was like, can you come.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Into the office.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'm like, come to the office the fuck Like I'm now,
I'm nervous, Like, bro, you can't tell me it's over
the fault, old, but come into the office.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So then I drive.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You know, it's like forty minutes away, and he was
like everything checked out fun except your cholesterol. And I'm like,
first thing, I'm like, bro, I don't even eat a
lot of French fries and fried food Like if my
kids going to Chick fil Ai or something, i might
eat a fry or.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Two, but I'm not eating the whole thing. And he's like, nah.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Refine sugar is worse for your cholesterol than fried foods.
And I'm like, well, okay. And every car that I have,
I keep a bag of candy in the middle console
cause as soon as I get in, I'm eating the candy.
And I was probably even when I was playing to
when I was retired, I would probably eat four scoops
(09:03):
of ice cream four or five days.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
A week with like two sprinkle cup cats. So I
was eating that like damn near every day.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He said my cholesterol, and I don't know if you
know the numbers, but I was two hundred and eighty
two and he wanted they wanted to be under two hundred,
and I got nervous, so I literally I didn't eat
any candy, any ice cream. I felt like a crackhead
brou because like I was like feeding for some candy
and some ice cream, but I didn't eat it for
(09:33):
like eight months straight, nothing, nothing, and then I gradually
like every blue moon. Now I'll eat some ice cream
here and there. I'll eat some candy here and there.
But I'm an asshole because or I'm a dumb asshole.
I ain't been back to the doctor since twenty twenty one,
and I keep saying that I'm gonna go back because
I want to see has my cholesterol has a drop yet?
(09:55):
And so I need to see if I had that
type of discipline because we you they think, oh I
look good, but in the inside, yeah you slowly done.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, yeah you got.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You got a lot of guys that look, you know,
looked like hercules on the outside and on the inside.
You know, they you know, they waker than the you know,
a three year old girl. So it's it's and then
they're unhealthy too, you know what I'm saying. It's it's uh,
it's a combination, especially say a three.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Year old child, not a three year old woman. A
child don't like the women. They can't like like uh,
but so I in his health.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
As far as the food part aspect, the strength part
extended your career and that's why you're there with your sons.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, So I'm trying to well my my oldest he
he sort of got the got to understanding what it
was they needed to do after he had to have
a couple of surgeries, so he blew what's at sea joint?
And you know, from that point forward, everything I was
trying to telling him, like, dude, you got to eat right,
You got to take care of your body, you know,
you know, you gotta you want to expire to you know,
(11:12):
go to college and you know, possibly go.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Further than that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So you need to start doing the things necessary now
to preserve and prolong your body. And from that point forward,
last July, he actually just totally stopped eating and he
really refined sugars. He's he dropped us lowest, like one
fifty five after he's up to like two o seven now.
(11:37):
So he put he put on a little over fifty
pounds of bub uh my, wait, that's my weigh this
morning when I woke up seven, You ain't no two seven, hey,
And I told you I was working out. I got
fifty more push ups to do and that'll be five
hundred for the day. And I'm doing my legs tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You ain't listen, you ain't. You ain't no tools. I'm
two o seven I told her two hundred and seven pounds.
I told six six two. How about you think I
like this? I mean, it is possible.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I was.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I was work.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Give you like one eighty five. You know, Oh my god,
that's that's Chad. That's disrespectful, Chad one eighty five. I'm
just saying like I'm looking at like kind of the
same built. Now you see it with Bro, don't play
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with me. You see my shoulders, my shoulders are huge.
They're not like my shoulders are big. See this shirt
is an extra large. The other day I had on
a lars So then I was I was looking bigger.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Than what I am. Come on, Bro, and you and
my son.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And then and then if I still were the same
side shut and then you see this.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Fire power down below?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, oh hey James. When I was up, yeah yeah,
paus real. When I was in uh so, you know,
I went Juco. I went Juco. And then when I
was in college, no bullshit, you know, I benched three
hundred and ninety five pounds.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I did too much.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Listen, I could believe that because a lot of our
skilled dudes when I was in college were super strong.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
There.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I did two twenty five twenty three times. I was
squatting like four fifty. My vert was thirty nine. Yeah, no, lot,
swear a guy. I promise you to see it's crazy
because I had this. Everybody old TJ will slow to
you know what tomorrow will see if I be finding it.
(13:40):
Bro I went, I ran ten five and one hundred
meters in junior college, twenty one to three in the
two hundred Sorito's junior college. Yeah, I mean that's that's
that's cool. That's cool.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You know that. I mean they kind of doing that
in high school right now, but you know.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, yeah, they they much. I'm just saying, yeah, man,
I weighed that nice. I was once seventy eight getting
out of high school. Me and you was around. Hey,
I was wanting not to vear your high school. Oh
so we're about the same weight.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
My player said, I was a you know, it's always
two inchest and twenty pounds, he said.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I was six two two ten. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Hey, And I came into the league at two eighteen
when Marvin Lewis got there cause you know, bick Leboga
was my coach.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
My first two in the league.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Then when Marvin Lewis got to the Bengals, he basically
made me lose weight. So then I got to about
two oh five. He was like, uh, the NFL, it's
not about being big, it's how you move. I need
you to lose weight. And I was ripped. I'm built
like I'm ripped up. I'm like where Lois where at?
And I lost weight?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah? You did? You?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Like on that field, I was drinking that milkshake, those
like four scoops ice creaming and I'm making milkshake sometimes
at night. I just stopped doing that because I the
ice cream and then some nights I'll make a milkshake. Yeah,
And I just lost weight. That's simple, that's easy. All
you got to do is stuff away from the table.
A lot of people don't understand that, Like I.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Don't eat that much. I only eat once a day.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
But you snacking all throughout the day and you tearing up,
you know, three four hundred carbs, you know from all
the high fatty food little chips here, you know, nuts
here and all the other you know, all the other stuff,
you know, trail mix and all that, and they think,
you know it don't really count them Like, yeah, hey,
so what was it about RC when you saw him
(15:39):
that made you want to go work with Ian? Because
he referred? What wasn't that you saw an RC that
made you say let me go try him out. So
what happened is I was having issues with my back
and uh or she was like, Yo, you need to
see my dude. And so that season leading up to
when we played Green Band super Bowl, Ian was doing
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soft tissue work on me, you know, helping me get
through the season so that I didn't have to get
you know, surgery. So that's what initially got me into
seeing him. So I was seeing him like once a week,
you know what I'm saying. And from there after that happened.
I ended up getting my surgery done, and I had
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already made the plans that I was gonna go out
there and train, but when they locked us out, I
ended up going out there and doing all my therapy
out there, and like, I'm so happy that that, you
know that, that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
My recovery.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
The build up was totally different than you know, what
you're going to get you know at the team, how
they proceed and do their therapy. You know, his understanding
of how the body works, what's going to you know,
what you combined with this and what you combined with
that to you know, to get a better result. You
know from you know, just even exercise. You know what
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I'm saying, combining different exercises to get up what city
n in Arizona here and Scott Stale he's sent timping.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Now, man, I might have to go funck with in.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I might have to take my son out because I
had terrible back problems.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know what I'm telling you. If I if I
had had IN at.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
The very beginning of my career, I almost feel like
one hundred percent that I would have never had to
have the surgery. Really no, yes, Like you got to realize,
you know, they say, oh, well, your need is you know,
it's it's wearing tear. The cartilage is scraping, so they
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want to go in and scope it.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well, what you don't understand is not just wearing tear.
Something's not firing right. Your muscles aren't functioning the same
way they were before, so it's causing your knee to
not wear into that same groove, this edging off like this,
and now it's scraping on that cartage. So what they
go in and do is they go in and fix
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what's giving you the paint. They don't actually fix what
causes it. They're not fixing to win and actually did
muscle testing and figured it out. You know what your
your quad, you know you're you're one of your quad
muscles isn't firing right. Let's do what we need to
do to get that back activating firing right. It'll line
that alignment of that knee back up and you won't
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have it, you know, scraping off Carlage, send.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Me he and number. Let Ian know you gave me
his number.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So when I hit him up, he ain't acting like
he don't know who I am.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I doe and let him know. You go ahead, you
go hit him up. But a busy see.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
So it's a bunch of guys out here right now.
So oh no, I'm just it's for the future. I
listen me working out. I'm gonna work. I'm doing I'm
doing Jim Jones workout. Man, I'm going to pull up.
But we don't do that. If that's what you come
and do.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Don't come here.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm talking about for my son, Like wait, I haven't man,
I ain't got under a bench press.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I then not benched at least ten years, at least.
It's it's it's a few.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It's been a number of guys that come here talking
about that. You know, they're ready to get it in
and they go through late day and then we don't
see him no more. See But that ain't me though,
Like mentally, I'm an animal. I'm like the Navy seal
up here, and I'm not quitting with nothing. I'll I'll
die before I quit. That's one thing that I would.
I won't quit like I'm throwing up. You're sign.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Dude won't come back after a hard day that bro,
No no, no, no, no, no no, they don't come back
at all. That ain't me.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
That's think you don't see him no more. Cats get
a weekend there and they're like, yeah, this is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, this what it is. It's work over here and
pp ain't no ho and me, that's what I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
That's one thing like no, no, no, now, I guess
I just looked like this, but I'm coming back.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, you know, come on, I want to be love.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
We love to work like you know delay, I ain't
gonna lie to you. Man, your first couple of leg days,
probably your first two three weeks of legs.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Normally the cycle goes, uh Monday's legs and Thursday's legs
and then uh Tuesdays basically back uh chest back.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
We call it push pul. Wednesdays is cores, it's core.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Friday its shoulders, and Saturdays it's by tries to do
six days a week here.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
My core is strong.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
My core strong is hell because I always had a
bad back, so I made sure that my course. It
ain't no I'm doing all cores like I'm killing that.
That's gonna be the easy day for me.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
All right. I'm telling.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I'm telling you I just if I really worked out,
I'll be built like you. I just today I heard you.
Don't get me wrong, You'll make it through it. But
you I know I'm gonna make it. You gonna hurt,
no question, Like i'mna act like it don't hurt. It's impossible, man,
and bro crimise is impossible. I'm pulling up. I'm pulling up,
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so the he he doesn't got and then when my
son get of age, I'm bringing him out there for sure,
for sure, start up young.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You know r C sign Jeorde.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah he's yeah, yeah, he's all he's out here right now.
But you know, he went to Arizona State, so he
actually got to do when he was in Arizona State,
he got to work with him. And I don't know
if I just like work with him from day one,
you know what I'm saying. And RC is still going
out there working on like he playing or she got
his thing too little DV precision though, yees see.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So I trained. I trained a lot of guys for
the draft every year.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I've been doing it now, like five years, all receivers,
and I don't trained probably like in the last five years,
probably thirty first and second rounds.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Okay, that's what's up.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, Like knock on Wood the last four years, that
guy right there, I done trained through the top freaking
receiver of the league the last four years. Okay, okay, yeah,
And that that part of it is fun.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I like.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I like the being able to teach him and the
why Okay, look when he plays you this way. These
are the things that we want to do. These are
the things that we are looking for. We understand zone,
where to sit, I'm looking, I'm teaching them protections. I'm okay,
I want you to look inside. If it looks like
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it's a blitz and it's going to be picked up,
understand what you can do. If it looks like it's
a blitz and it's not going to be picked up.
You can't be dancing that the line of scrimmage. If
you have press covers, the quarterback gonna be on his back.
We kind of go through everything, and now when my
guys do the interviews, I got coaches now calling me
like GJ Buddy sharp, he knows stuff like a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I'm like, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Then we going over protect going over what the middle
linebacker job is covered for, what the safety job is
cover for? What is in cover three? Cover three, Scott,
what's the fire zone? We're going through all that, that
part of it. That's partly why I'm probably not chubby.
I got too much party to get chubby. But when
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they when I know the training is coming around, I
gotta make sure I'm I'm in shape because I got
to move around with them like tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I ain't gonna lie to say I got fat there from men.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So but hey, tomorrow, I'm hopping on the track and
I'm running hopping on the track and I'm gonna run
for a good hour to get it in. Dude, Yeah,
I'm too heavy to run that long?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
How much? Cho way I dropped? I so you about
two fifty I'm not at like two fifty five to six?
What was you like two eighty?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh, Chad just text meal. Oh he don't want no problems.
I'll knock his ass out. Yep, he'll get tired in
the first round. Till chat him down there, Till chat
them down to two fifty five. Okay. He said he
wore a tank top yesterday. Thought it was gonna scare me.
He realized I ain't get scared when he put a
T shirt on. Nah, it's my suppling to company, me
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and my partner in its optimum me and fast.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, they gonna go.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, the people's gonna go click, and they gonna they're
gonna support you the d boat here and the optimums
and lift it up a little bit more, lift it
up a.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Little bit more. E had fax. There we go, there
it is, So let's get let's get into some football.
Let's get us some football.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Show your hometown team, the team that you will be
going into the Hall of Fame as representing this team,
Pittsburgh Steater. So Aaron Rodgers, she say, I don't want
the attention. When I'm done playing, you won't see me. Uh,
when it's all, when this is all said and done,
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it's Kayser soul saying, you won't see me. I won't
be in public. In public, I won't live a public life.
That's why it's so strange what's going on right now
in my private life, because I don't want to live
a life in a public eye. I'm not gonna be
in a public GUYE. When this is done, I'm done,
you won't see me, and I'm looking forward to that. Right,
But then, why you gonna do the Pat McAdie show
(25:26):
every Tuesday during the season. Why didn't you sign when
the Pittsburgh city is a long time ago? Because the
longer you wait, you know you're gonna constantly be talked about.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
How one do you believe that too? How is it
going from a player?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And when you're a good player as you were, and
I was you in a public eye, you can't. You
can't go to the grocery store, anywhere you go you
sign an autographs. Do you believe that's possible for Aaron Rodgers?
Do I believe it's possible for him to go off
the map and be not sicking?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Do you think he'll do that? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
He body want to go into the drug and do
what he was doing with Fold, Like, I mean, that's
what I mean, that's possible.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I would think so, But does he really want to
do it? If I know him better?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And then just all the stories I hear, from all
the stories I hear, I don't believe there's no way
in hell.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He believed he's saying what he actually fills.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Okay, you don't know Aaron Rodgers, but you played with
Ben Roethlisberger. Is is that like no comparison, No, no,
no comparison at all.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
No, Man, that that's that's that's why? Why is that?
To explain that? From the what I.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Get from the media with Aaron, Ben is not it's
nowhere near there. You know what I'm saying, Like the
caliber of just you know, over the top thiss and
and and kind of just calling guy out and throwing
cats under the bus, you know, coaches and all. I
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just didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I didn't. I didn't get that from Ben. You know.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
It may have been situations in circumstances where he may
have said something and it was it was taken by
the media as that, but I'm you know, almost ninety
percent sure he probably set it to ing behind closed
doors before it was even said.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So I just didn't.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know, the only thing that may have happened with Ben,
like in his when he was younger, was you know,
he may have exaggerated how hurt he was or something,
you know, so he wanted sympathy. No, So it makes
you look a little tougher men. You know, Ben is
(27:53):
a tough dude no matter what. Like, you know, he's
sitting there, he's taking the hits, he's doing all that
his biggest fuck right. You know, some times he may embellish,
you know, a little bit of what's you know, what's
going on? You know, so that when they go out
there and the dog.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Y'all, you know, like, oh my god, he played through
so much. You got the three so it's great. So okay,
now you played well, you played for Mike Tomlin. Do
you believe Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
They can make this relationship, this partnership work knowing.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That, so I think they can make it work if
they win it.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
If they started losing and it's looking like they ain't
gonna make above them five hundred, I think it gets
you real, ugly real fans, like to the point of
like they don't think about what I'm saying, to the
(29:02):
point of like they may just be like, you know what,
let's let this dude go mid season for Aaron, Like,
let's just get him rightdy to put one of these
other quarterbacks in.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
You know, Mike t ain't going over. Mike t ain't
going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So everybody that believes, you know, my team needs to
go somewhere, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You got a coach right now. You don't believe it's possible.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You don't think it's in the realm of any possibility
that Aaron Rodgers can get Mike Tomlin fired at all.
No only person to get Mike tom Mike tom If
he goes and you know, and puts up a couple
losing seasons, then I don't see him getting fired.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
You know, he has a number of years left on
his contract.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I could see the possibility of them not renewing him,
but not fired. That's just something that the Stiller is
not going to do, especially after having you know, this
much success over that long a time frame without a
losing season. Don't get me wrong, Yes, I understand, man,
we have not won a playoff games since twenty sixteen,
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and then it ain't gonna wait one this year either,
and that is a huge That is a huge drought.
But you know, you got six and one half half
a dozen of the other you know what I'm saying,
Grass ain't always green on the other side, And you know,
maybe a lot of people don't want to go over.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
There and check it out, so I don't yeah to me,
I see it work.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
When you win covers up a lot, covers up a lot,
covers up a lot. When you start losing, then it's
gonna come out because man should have signed earlier. Motherfucker
waiting til Mini count to sign. You'd have been here
in the OTA's and have something to say when you
start losing. But when you win and it kind of
(30:49):
just covers up, it comes all all the bs. It
covers up all the bs, It covers all the stuff
in the locker room. As soon as you start losing,
the first thing the media is in there doing and
is they watching?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Now?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
They're looking. You think the Steelers can make the playoffs?
Do I think the Steelers can make the playoffs? Yeah? Really? Yeah?
Who they gonna who they gonna knock out? Because let's
just go through it right now? Right? Mm hm?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
We got the Chiefs in there, right yeah, right? The Chargers. No,
they made it last year. Jim Harball got lucky. No, no, no,
Jim Harball his second year as a head coach. Everywhere
he's been has been a huge jump. You think that
jump is not gonna continue or you think it stops
just this year?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Every every place he's big. No, I'm playing with okay,
would I'm not putting.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Hold up, Litten. We're gonna go through the AFC, and
I want you to tell me who they gonna knock out.
So we think the Chiefs, the Chargers, the Broncos. That's
the AFC West because those all three were playoff teams
last year. Bow Knicks in his second year, he's probably
gonna be better with Sean Payton. No, you gonna have
that sophomore. Let them off ward swamp huh okay. And
then you go to the AFC East, the Bill's gonna
be in. So that's four teams that made it AFC North.
(32:06):
We probably gonna pick the Ravens for sure. That's five teams.
And then you got the a FC South, whether it's
the Texans, the Coats, the Titans, whoever it is.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
You gotta realize something. Of all those teams.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
You said, I feel like our defense can play better
and if we get a quarterback that can. Actually, I
don't believe y'all defense was better than the Broncos defense
last year.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
They wasn't better in the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
The Broncos had one of the best defenses in the
league with two of the better pass rushers in the league.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I said it could play better. I didn't say it
was better.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
But if they didn't play better last year and you
got the young defense that got better in Denver, because
now this is what this how I look at it.
The Steelers gonna be competing with these teams because it's
gonna be one spot for all these teams. I'm about
the name the Miami Dolphins, then New England Patriots, and
the Bengals. Those three teams Yeah, we got all them. Huh,
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we got all them.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Ya can't y'all not beating us? Mhm, y'all not beating us?
Come on now, they're not gonna beat us. Yes, y'all
can't stop us. Stop lou.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Joe Burrow, Jamar, Chase t Higgins, Chase Brown, Mike Deseki,
y'all not stopping us? And then that and then that
old line we had last year. Huh we had last
year one and one, I'm saying. And the bad part
is the game that y'all won. It was uneffing bro
We let Russell Wilson shred us for four hundred yards
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in the air. Best game of the season. We got
new defensive coordinator. I'll bet money on that we're gonna
beat you'all last ball games this year.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Hey, you know what now that.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
We're talking about the Steelers and beingles producer, say, y'all
got the clip that we was talking about yesterday when
I did my shoes, So we can get in that
real quick before Kivy ring go get.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
On, y'all got y'all got that?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Okay, hold up, Paulsey, Paulsey, Paulsey pauses right quick, paulsa
right quick?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So let's go backstory, right. So that season we were
one of the best teams in the league. Were all young.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Carson our quarterback, myself, Chad Chris Henryette receiver made me
rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
We was damned the unbeatable.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Our offense was top three in the league, if I'm
not mistaken. Our defense total yards weren't good, but they
were number one in force turnovers. And uh we played
the Steelers in Pittsburgh, and I forget. The hotel we
stayed at was a big ass hotel at Pittsburgh. Man
and I get on the elevator a bunch of Pittsburgh
(34:47):
Steeter fans and then you know, they talking shit, but
they being super cool. So I told buddy, they had
terrible towels and they're just waving them and I'm just
joking with them and whatnot. And I say, he let
me buy that from you twenty dollars. He's like, no,
I said one hundred dollars. As I said one hundred dollars,
he said yeah. So I gave him one hundred dollars
and he gave me the terrible for nineteen from where
(35:10):
I'm about to get on the team bus to go
to the stadium right then.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, it's so uh.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
We come out for pregame. We come out for pregame,
and I got it on to my left side as
a streamer.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
So I'm warming up with that thing, you know, with
that thing now, and Marvin walks by me and he
snatches it.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So I turn around because I'm to myself pregame.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I turn around, like, Mark, give me it back. Bro
with you.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I'm like, I'm trying to take it back. He wouldn't
give it back to me. So the whole game, obviously
I didn't have it. So the game ends, by the way,
I had a great game. I had two touchdowns over
I think I had over one hundred yards, but I
know I for sure had two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So as we walk.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Into the tunnel, it was hanging out at I guess
he must have given it to a huge It was
kind of I could see part of it hanging out
the back pocket of his pants.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Man, I'm pulled that ship right on out. I'm running
off the field like this, and then I get.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Towards the tunnel and I was like, let me sit
down and just do this now, y'all go ahead, play it,
go ahead, play it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
So I just start doing that. Just it was just
kind of impromptu.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I hadn't thought about it, and I didn't think anything
of it.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, that was what down for right there, Baby, I
didn't I didn't think anything of it. I was just
having fun. Right, You never heard the Curse of the
Terrible Time? Hey, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Real It's real crazy because I'm I talk a lot
of video I play video games, right, just Madden. I'm
in a Madden chat right now, the chat. Damn there
every player in the chat that is from Pittsburgh. They
all love the Steelers. And so when they because I
don't tell people who I am, so when they found
out it was me, I know them boys hate me
(36:55):
because I'd be talking shit, they be talking. I just
lost one of these motherfuckers and the uh AFC championship
game too, by the way. But anyway, explain to the
people the listeners. So we played, y'all. We had a
home game. We ended up playing Cincinnati Bengals Pittsburgh Steelers
in a wildcard game. We were at home. We should
(37:17):
have won that game. We were winning that game. So
I didn't even get to play all that game or
got hurt.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yet, Like.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
That was my super Bowl, because had that not happened
to Carson when they introduced me, they would be saying
super Bowl champ tj Wuschmanzada because nobody was beat nutst
that year.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
If you didn't, if you didn't grub up your feet
on that time, Oh, we lose a game.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Carson Palmer gets hurt first play, Chris Henry gets hurt
the first play, which was at fifty sixty yard bomb.
If you recall first play the game, we bombed the
fuck out of y'all and both of those guys go down. Now,
let's rewind explain because I've heard it so many times,
but bits and pieces of it, Bill Coward and head
(38:02):
coach explain all that that led up into it, and
then he'll really be honest with you. I really couldn't
recall exactly what he said in the in the meeting,
but it was pointed out and the video was shown
for sure, Like yeah, it was shown, And like I said,
(38:22):
I think I got hurt the very first play, like
on kickoffs, and then the next play I think is
when uh oh dude got y'all quarterback got hurt at
m Chemo.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Hitting low, cheap cheap shot at him. Nah, you know,
Quo don't cheap shot cheat. No, he's a he's a
stand up dude. I wasn't. He didn't cheap shotting purposely.
But it was a late hit and it was low.
It was low.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
I don't know how lady was. He was kind of
falling into it, so towards a cl Yeah, it was.
But with that being said, I believe we were up.
It was either seventeen seven at halftime or seventeen ten.
We still should have won the game. We had a
lot of uh, we had a lot of mishaps at halftime.
(39:09):
Chapter explain that to y'all when he comes back, he
can explain that to y'allf we want to, y'all ask Chad,
you know what the mishaps were had halftime. But yeah, man,
that that was the year. So I'm young, that's prop.
That's my third or fourth year maybe, so I'm thinking, Oh,
next year, we're gonna be right back here. We're gonna
be right back. We got the same team. No, it
(39:29):
don't work like that, bro, It don't work like you think.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Catch Catch. Don't understand and realize all of the nuances that.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Go into each season and each game and each play and.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
How this play right here could have turned out differently.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
And they don't understand how hard this get back, especially
when you get there like young. You know, it's like
a no, that ship, that ship is. I was like,
we're gonna be back next year and never got back.
We was always good on offense, though I will say
that we were still running and gunning on offense. We
(40:06):
is out that bitch like the patis of the Golden
State Warris. We just love the pacers, We like the words,
but we just the points.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
We just we won't winning. You'll only go to four.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, we wasn't do to state because that's winning championships.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Man, welcome tonightcat.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
This is day three of the hijacking that me and
my boy Jake Well not the hijack, and I don't
want to even use that term the takeover.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Think three of the takeover. I'm TJ Houshmazada.
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That's James Harrison and later on in the show we'll
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University of Georgia.
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(01:19):
to show off them uh all them muscles he got.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So he got a little T shirt on today, So
we good to go. First off, its good, man, always good.
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Had to do the same thing I do every day, workout.
They ain't gonna work more boys out. They had to
do some field work today. So I did my son
the opportunity to get out there and and test out
his ankle that he had us so secre repair.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So he's doing good.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Speaking of you boys, I don't know if we touched
on this yesterday or not. How is it now that
they're of age and you can actually get on the field,
get in the weight room.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Work out with them instruction?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Are you want to ask are you kind of letting
uh the dude you trained with because I don't know him,
but we're.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Gonna get in. We're gonna we're gonna get in the end.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Also, but how is that just like working out with
your sons now, I'll work out with one of them,
if someone with training the other one, and then I'll switch,
you know, day to day. And to be honest with you, man,
it's all depending on what I'm getting from him.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
If I'm a you know, jump on my butt or not.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I usually have to jump on my youngest buttery a
little bit more than I do my oldest. I really
don't have to jump on my oldest at all, be
honest with you. He's he's more, he's more like me.
He loves to do it. He wants to, you know,
try and do it to the best of the best
of his abilities. And you know, he wants to try
and get stronger every day. My younger one, I just
(02:47):
gotta I gotta push him a little bit. He's he's
just now breaking through the point where he's getting used
to the burn to hurt, you know, the pain that
you got to go through to to build. And you know,
he's he's learning appreciation for it. So it's a little
more motivation, uh, talking to him. Of course, it's in
(03:08):
my words, my language. It's not for everybody else's kids
for me to coach them, because I coach my kids
as if their mind and if I was to coach yours,
I'm gonna do the same thing if that's what you're
looking for.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But that's the only way I know how to do
a position.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I got linebacker, running back and h safety running back. Okay,
And so I don't know Ian, but I feel like
I know him because of U n R C R
C being Ryan Clark.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
How did that?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Because you, where do you doing in Pittsburgh. I'm just
so I assume I assumed you were still living in Pittsburgh.
But you know they say when you're as you live
in Pittsburgh in if I'm not correct, in Arizona. So
you not playing and you still travel to Arizona to
(04:02):
train with end obviously now your boys. But even when
you were retired, you were just going out there to
get However, many weeks in what even have back. So
after I was done, I had a workout app that
I had out, so I was doing a lot of
filming for that, and uh, you know, in the process
of building out that I happened doing all the exercises,
so I could have to you know, the whole platform,
(04:23):
ready to go and do all that. But you know,
it's uh, you know, that's like my vacation. You know,
most people they want to go to it. You know,
if they want to go to Florida or somewhere, they're
going to go out and eat and party and do
all that. I want to go to the gym. You know,
if I take a vacation, I'm not leaving no more
than three days. If it ain't got a gym, I
(04:45):
may not leave at all, Like it's not happening. Like
if I can't get to a gym, we ain't going nowhere.
Like I when did you start training with the end
When in your career?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
What year in your career training?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I was saying, So here's something, so two thousand I
think it was nine. Yeah, sorry, two thousand, oh yeah,
right now, yeah, two thousand and nine, twenty ten. I
started with him, And the big reason I started with
him was he was doing a lot of soft tissue
(05:18):
work for me. That's when I hurt my back. I
ended up having to get surgery at the end of
the season, and they locked us out. So after I
got the surgery, they locked us out so I couldn't
do none of my therapy anywhere, and I ended up
doing all my therapy here in Arizona with him. And
from that time, you know, for I had just I
(05:39):
just got stronger and stronger.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I got layer and laner.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, he helped me to actually really dial in
my diet and understand what it is that I needed.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
To eat, shouldn't eat.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
There amounts that I could eat, and you know, come
to realize, like you could smash as much he said
anything that you know, runs flies or swore.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Could you can almost eat as much.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
As that, you know, as you want, and then you know,
stay away from anything that I was a you know,
that was a car and I basically went into almost
like a keto dye and dude, I I wasn't close
to working out as hard as I could because I
was recovering from the.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Surgery and doing the therapy of it.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But you know, I dropped down to almost you know,
eight percent body fact in that time, runs flies and swim,
So I get that part of it. So what about
the fruit because that ain't running, flying of swimming. You
can't eat all the fruits you want? Or is it
because it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Carves.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's just you know, it's what they call good sugar,
but it's still carves.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So oh man, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Then I would get like four weeks where it would
just be zero. Any cars that I got was from
the meat and you know whatever else. And then you
would be allowed to get like a you know, like
a half cup of bears. So the only thing that
you know, I was a live was berry so blackberries,
blueberry strawberries. That was the lowest, man, I just ate
(07:08):
the whole thing a blueberry. I mean blackberries, whole thing,
just by myself right now, I don't know I whatever
I can. I mean, look at you. You one of them
dudes that can eat whatever. Don't gain no way, don't
you know what I'm saying, Like I hate y'all. Well,
no mixed, but I don't like, no, this would happen.
Let me so when we when I retired, I didn't
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go to the I didn't go to the doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Bro, no, lie.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Last year was twenty twelve. I went to the doctor.
The first time I went to the doctor after I
retired was twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And I retired in twenty twelve. Right, I'm not lying.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Got all that you paying for insurance and I ain't
using it right, And so I go to the doctor. Boom,
everything fine, no problems. So he was like, we gonna
do your blood work. So I go do my blood work.
And then he called me like a week later and
was like, can you come.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Into the office.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'm like, come to the office the fuck Like I'm now,
I'm nervous, Like, bro, you can't tell me it's over
the fault, old, but come into the office.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So then I drive.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You know, it's like forty minutes away, and he was
like everything checked out fun except your cholesterol. And I'm like,
first thing, I'm like, bro, I don't even eat a
lot of French fries and fried food Like if my
kids going to Chick fil Ai or something, i might
eat a fry or.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Two, but I'm not eating the whole thing. And he's like, nah.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Refine sugar is worse for your cholesterol than fried foods.
And I'm like, well, okay. And every car that I have,
I keep a bag of candy in the middle console
cause as soon as I get in, I'm eating the candy.
And I was probably even when I was playing to
when I was retired, I would probably eat four scoops
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of ice cream four or five days.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
A week with like two sprinkle cup cats. So I
was eating that like damn near every day.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He said my cholesterol, and I don't know if you
know the numbers, but I was two hundred and eighty
two and he wanted they wanted to be under two hundred,
and I got nervous, so I literally I didn't eat
any candy, any ice cream. I felt like a crackhead
brou because like I was like feeding for some candy
and some ice cream, but I didn't eat it for
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like eight months straight, nothing, nothing, and then I gradually
like every blue moon. Now I'll eat some ice cream
here and there. I'll eat some candy here and there.
But I'm an asshole because or I'm a dumb asshole.
I ain't been back to the doctor since twenty twenty one,
and I keep saying that I'm gonna go back because
I want to see has my cholesterol has a drop yet?
(09:55):
And so I need to see if I had that
type of discipline because we you they think, oh I
look good, but in the inside, yeah you slowly done.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, yeah you got.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You got a lot of guys that look, you know,
looked like hercules on the outside and on the inside.
You know, they you know, they waker than the you know,
a three year old girl. So it's it's and then
they're unhealthy too, you know what I'm saying. It's it's uh,
it's a combination, especially say a three.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Year old child, not a three year old woman. A
child don't like the women. They can't like like uh,
but so I in his health.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
As far as the food part aspect, the strength part
extended your career and that's why you're there with your sons.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, So I'm trying to well my my oldest he
he sort of got the got to understanding what it
was they needed to do after he had to have
a couple of surgeries, so he blew what's at sea joint?
And you know, from that point forward, everything I was
trying to telling him, like, dude, you got to eat right,
You got to take care of your body, you know,
you know, you gotta you want to expire to you know,
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go to college and you know, possibly go.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Further than that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So you need to start doing the things necessary now
to preserve and prolong your body. And from that point forward,
last July, he actually just totally stopped eating and he
really refined sugars. He's he dropped us lowest, like one
fifty five after he's up to like two o seven now.
(11:37):
So he put he put on a little over fifty
pounds of bub uh my, wait, that's my weigh this
morning when I woke up seven, You ain't no two seven, hey,
And I told you I was working out. I got
fifty more push ups to do and that'll be five
hundred for the day. And I'm doing my legs tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You ain't listen, you ain't. You ain't no tools. I'm
two o seven I told her two hundred and seven pounds.
I told six six two. How about you think I
like this? I mean, it is possible.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I was.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I was work.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Give you like one eighty five. You know, Oh my god,
that's that's Chad. That's disrespectful, Chad one eighty five. I'm
just saying like I'm looking at like kind of the
same built. Now you see it with Bro, don't play
(12:34):
with me. You see my shoulders, my shoulders are huge.
They're not like my shoulders are big. See this shirt
is an extra large. The other day I had on
a lars So then I was I was looking bigger.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Than what I am. Come on, Bro, and you and
my son.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And then and then if I still were the same
side shut and then you see this.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Fire power down below?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, oh hey James. When I was up, yeah yeah,
paus real. When I was in uh so, you know,
I went Juco. I went Juco. And then when I
was in college, no bullshit, you know, I benched three
hundred and ninety five pounds.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I did too much.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Listen, I could believe that because a lot of our
skilled dudes when I was in college were super strong.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
There.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I did two twenty five twenty three times. I was
squatting like four fifty. My vert was thirty nine. Yeah, no, lot,
swear a guy. I promise you to see it's crazy
because I had this. Everybody old TJ will slow to
you know what tomorrow will see if I be finding it.
(13:40):
Bro I went, I ran ten five and one hundred
meters in junior college, twenty one to three in the
two hundred Sorito's junior college. Yeah, I mean that's that's
that's cool. That's cool.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You know that. I mean they kind of doing that
in high school right now, but you know.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, yeah, they they much. I'm just saying, yeah, man,
I weighed that nice. I was once seventy eight getting
out of high school. Me and you was around. Hey,
I was wanting not to vear your high school. Oh
so we're about the same weight.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
My player said, I was a you know, it's always
two inchest and twenty pounds, he said.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I was six two two ten. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Hey, And I came into the league at two eighteen
when Marvin Lewis got there cause you know, bick Leboga
was my coach.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
My first two in the league.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Then when Marvin Lewis got to the Bengals, he basically
made me lose weight. So then I got to about
two oh five. He was like, uh, the NFL, it's
not about being big, it's how you move. I need
you to lose weight. And I was ripped. I'm built
like I'm ripped up. I'm like where Lois where at?
And I lost weight?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah? You did? You?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Like on that field, I was drinking that milkshake, those
like four scoops ice creaming and I'm making milkshake sometimes
at night. I just stopped doing that because I the
ice cream and then some nights I'll make a milkshake. Yeah,
And I just lost weight. That's simple, that's easy. All
you got to do is stuff away from the table.
A lot of people don't understand that, Like I.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Don't eat that much. I only eat once a day.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
But you snacking all throughout the day and you tearing up,
you know, three four hundred carbs, you know from all
the high fatty food little chips here, you know, nuts
here and all the other you know, all the other stuff,
you know, trail mix and all that, and they think,
you know it don't really count them Like, yeah, hey,
so what was it about RC when you saw him
(15:39):
that made you want to go work with Ian? Because
he referred? What wasn't that you saw an RC that
made you say let me go try him out. So
what happened is I was having issues with my back
and uh or she was like, Yo, you need to
see my dude. And so that season leading up to
when we played Green Band super Bowl, Ian was doing
(16:02):
soft tissue work on me, you know, helping me get
through the season so that I didn't have to get
you know, surgery. So that's what initially got me into
seeing him. So I was seeing him like once a week,
you know what I'm saying. And from there after that happened.
I ended up getting my surgery done, and I had
(16:22):
already made the plans that I was gonna go out
there and train, but when they locked us out, I
ended up going out there and doing all my therapy
out there, and like, I'm so happy that that, you
know that, that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
My recovery.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
The build up was totally different than you know, what
you're going to get you know at the team, how
they proceed and do their therapy. You know, his understanding
of how the body works, what's going to you know,
what you combined with this and what you combined with
that to you know, to get a better result. You
know from you know, just even exercise. You know what
(17:02):
I'm saying, combining different exercises to get up what city
n in Arizona here and Scott Stale he's sent timping.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Now, man, I might have to go funck with in.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I might have to take my son out because I
had terrible back problems.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know what I'm telling you. If I if I
had had IN at.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
The very beginning of my career, I almost feel like
one hundred percent that I would have never had to
have the surgery. Really no, yes, Like you got to realize,
you know, they say, oh, well, your need is you know,
it's it's wearing tear. The cartilage is scraping, so they
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want to go in and scope it.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well, what you don't understand is not just wearing tear.
Something's not firing right. Your muscles aren't functioning the same
way they were before, so it's causing your knee to
not wear into that same groove, this edging off like this,
and now it's scraping on that cartage. So what they
go in and do is they go in and fix
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what's giving you the paint. They don't actually fix what
causes it. They're not fixing to win and actually did
muscle testing and figured it out. You know what your
your quad, you know you're you're one of your quad
muscles isn't firing right. Let's do what we need to
do to get that back activating firing right. It'll line
that alignment of that knee back up and you won't
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have it, you know, scraping off Carlage, send.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Me he and number. Let Ian know you gave me
his number.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So when I hit him up, he ain't acting like
he don't know who I am.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I doe and let him know. You go ahead, you
go hit him up. But a busy see.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
So it's a bunch of guys out here right now.
So oh no, I'm just it's for the future. I
listen me working out. I'm gonna work. I'm doing I'm
doing Jim Jones workout. Man, I'm going to pull up.
But we don't do that. If that's what you come
and do.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Don't come here.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm talking about for my son, Like wait, I haven't man,
I ain't got under a bench press.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I then not benched at least ten years, at least.
It's it's it's a few.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It's been a number of guys that come here talking
about that. You know, they're ready to get it in
and they go through late day and then we don't
see him no more. See But that ain't me though,
Like mentally, I'm an animal. I'm like the Navy seal
up here, and I'm not quitting with nothing. I'll I'll
die before I quit. That's one thing that I would.
I won't quit like I'm throwing up. You're sign.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Dude won't come back after a hard day that bro,
No no, no, no, no, no no, they don't come back
at all. That ain't me.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
That's think you don't see him no more. Cats get
a weekend there and they're like, yeah, this is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, this what it is. It's work over here and
pp ain't no ho and me, that's what I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
That's one thing like no, no, no, now, I guess
I just looked like this, but I'm coming back.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, you know, come on, I want to be love.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
We love to work like you know delay, I ain't
gonna lie to you. Man, your first couple of leg days,
probably your first two three weeks of legs.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Normally the cycle goes, uh Monday's legs and Thursday's legs
and then uh Tuesdays basically back uh chest back.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
We call it push pul. Wednesdays is cores, it's core.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Friday its shoulders, and Saturdays it's by tries to do
six days a week here.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
My core is strong.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
My core strong is hell because I always had a
bad back, so I made sure that my course. It
ain't no I'm doing all cores like I'm killing that.
That's gonna be the easy day for me.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
All right. I'm telling.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I'm telling you I just if I really worked out,
I'll be built like you. I just today I heard you.
Don't get me wrong, You'll make it through it. But
you I know I'm gonna make it. You gonna hurt,
no question, Like i'mna act like it don't hurt. It's impossible, man,
and bro crimise is impossible. I'm pulling up. I'm pulling up,
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so the he he doesn't got and then when my
son get of age, I'm bringing him out there for sure,
for sure, start up young.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You know r C sign Jeorde.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah he's yeah, yeah, he's all he's out here right now.
But you know, he went to Arizona State, so he
actually got to do when he was in Arizona State,
he got to work with him. And I don't know
if I just like work with him from day one,
you know what I'm saying. And RC is still going
out there working on like he playing or she got
his thing too little DV precision though, yees see.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So I trained. I trained a lot of guys for
the draft every year.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I've been doing it now, like five years, all receivers,
and I don't trained probably like in the last five years,
probably thirty first and second rounds.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Okay, that's what's up.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, Like knock on Wood the last four years, that
guy right there, I done trained through the top freaking
receiver of the league the last four years. Okay, okay, yeah,
And that that part of it is fun.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I like.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I like the being able to teach him and the
why Okay, look when he plays you this way. These
are the things that we want to do. These are
the things that we are looking for. We understand zone,
where to sit, I'm looking, I'm teaching them protections. I'm okay,
I want you to look inside. If it looks like
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it's a blitz and it's going to be picked up,
understand what you can do. If it looks like it's
a blitz and it's not going to be picked up.
You can't be dancing that the line of scrimmage. If
you have press covers, the quarterback gonna be on his back.
We kind of go through everything, and now when my
guys do the interviews, I got coaches now calling me
like GJ Buddy sharp, he knows stuff like a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I'm like, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Then we going over protect going over what the middle
linebacker job is covered for, what the safety job is
cover for? What is in cover three? Cover three, Scott,
what's the fire zone? We're going through all that, that
part of it. That's partly why I'm probably not chubby.
I got too much party to get chubby. But when
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they when I know the training is coming around, I
gotta make sure I'm I'm in shape because I got
to move around with them like tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I ain't gonna lie to say I got fat there from men.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So but hey, tomorrow, I'm hopping on the track and
I'm running hopping on the track and I'm gonna run
for a good hour to get it in. Dude, Yeah,
I'm too heavy to run that long?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
How much? Cho way I dropped? I so you about
two fifty I'm not at like two fifty five to six?
What was you like two eighty?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh, Chad just text meal. Oh he don't want no problems.
I'll knock his ass out. Yep, he'll get tired in
the first round. Till chat him down there, Till chat
them down to two fifty five. Okay. He said he
wore a tank top yesterday. Thought it was gonna scare me.
He realized I ain't get scared when he put a
T shirt on. Nah, it's my suppling to company, me
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and my partner in its optimum me and fast.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, they gonna go.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, the people's gonna go click, and they gonna they're
gonna support you the d boat here and the optimums
and lift it up a little bit more, lift it
up a.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Little bit more. E had fax. There we go, there
it is, So let's get let's get into some football.
Let's get us some football.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Show your hometown team, the team that you will be
going into the Hall of Fame as representing this team,
Pittsburgh Steater. So Aaron Rodgers, she say, I don't want
the attention. When I'm done playing, you won't see me. Uh,
when it's all, when this is all said and done,
(25:05):
it's Kayser soul saying, you won't see me. I won't
be in public. In public, I won't live a public life.
That's why it's so strange what's going on right now
in my private life, because I don't want to live
a life in a public eye. I'm not gonna be
in a public GUYE. When this is done, I'm done,
you won't see me, and I'm looking forward to that. Right,
But then, why you gonna do the Pat McAdie show
(25:26):
every Tuesday during the season. Why didn't you sign when
the Pittsburgh city is a long time ago? Because the
longer you wait, you know you're gonna constantly be talked about.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
How one do you believe that too? How is it
going from a player?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And when you're a good player as you were, and
I was you in a public eye, you can't. You
can't go to the grocery store, anywhere you go you
sign an autographs. Do you believe that's possible for Aaron Rodgers?
Do I believe it's possible for him to go off
the map and be not sicking?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Do you think he'll do that? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
He body want to go into the drug and do
what he was doing with Fold, Like, I mean, that's
what I mean, that's possible.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I would think so, But does he really want to
do it? If I know him better?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And then just all the stories I hear, from all
the stories I hear, I don't believe there's no way
in hell.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He believed he's saying what he actually fills.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Okay, you don't know Aaron Rodgers, but you played with
Ben Roethlisberger. Is is that like no comparison, No, no,
no comparison at all.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
No, Man, that that's that's that's why? Why is that?
To explain that? From the what I.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Get from the media with Aaron, Ben is not it's
nowhere near there. You know what I'm saying, Like the
caliber of just you know, over the top thiss and
and and kind of just calling guy out and throwing
cats under the bus, you know, coaches and all. I
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just didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I didn't. I didn't get that from Ben. You know.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
It may have been situations in circumstances where he may
have said something and it was it was taken by
the media as that, but I'm you know, almost ninety
percent sure he probably set it to ing behind closed
doors before it was even said.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So I just didn't.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know, the only thing that may have happened with Ben,
like in his when he was younger, was you know,
he may have exaggerated how hurt he was or something,
you know, so he wanted sympathy. No, So it makes
you look a little tougher men. You know, Ben is
(27:53):
a tough dude no matter what. Like, you know, he's
sitting there, he's taking the hits, he's doing all that
his biggest fuck right. You know, some times he may embellish,
you know, a little bit of what's you know, what's
going on? You know, so that when they go out
there and the dog.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Y'all, you know, like, oh my god, he played through
so much. You got the three so it's great. So okay,
now you played well, you played for Mike Tomlin. Do
you believe Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
They can make this relationship, this partnership work knowing.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That, so I think they can make it work if
they win it.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
If they started losing and it's looking like they ain't
gonna make above them five hundred, I think it gets
you real, ugly real fans, like to the point of
like they don't think about what I'm saying, to the
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point of like they may just be like, you know what,
let's let this dude go mid season for Aaron, Like,
let's just get him rightdy to put one of these
other quarterbacks in.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
You know, Mike t ain't going over. Mike t ain't
going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So everybody that believes, you know, my team needs to
go somewhere, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You got a coach right now. You don't believe it's possible.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You don't think it's in the realm of any possibility
that Aaron Rodgers can get Mike Tomlin fired at all.
No only person to get Mike tom Mike tom If
he goes and you know, and puts up a couple
losing seasons, then I don't see him getting fired.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
You know, he has a number of years left on
his contract.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I could see the possibility of them not renewing him,
but not fired. That's just something that the Stiller is
not going to do, especially after having you know, this
much success over that long a time frame without a
losing season. Don't get me wrong, Yes, I understand, man,
we have not won a playoff games since twenty sixteen,
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and then it ain't gonna wait one this year either,
and that is a huge That is a huge drought.
But you know, you got six and one half half
a dozen of the other you know what I'm saying,
Grass ain't always green on the other side, And you know,
maybe a lot of people don't want to go over.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
There and check it out, so I don't yeah to me,
I see it work.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
When you win covers up a lot, covers up a lot,
covers up a lot. When you start losing, then it's
gonna come out because man should have signed earlier. Motherfucker
waiting til Mini count to sign. You'd have been here
in the OTA's and have something to say when you
start losing. But when you win and it kind of
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just covers up, it comes all all the bs. It
covers up all the bs, It covers all the stuff
in the locker room. As soon as you start losing,
the first thing the media is in there doing and
is they watching?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Now?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
They're looking. You think the Steelers can make the playoffs?
Do I think the Steelers can make the playoffs? Yeah? Really? Yeah?
Who they gonna who they gonna knock out? Because let's
just go through it right now? Right? Mm hm?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
We got the Chiefs in there, right yeah, right? The Chargers. No,
they made it last year. Jim Harball got lucky. No, no, no,
Jim Harball his second year as a head coach. Everywhere
he's been has been a huge jump. You think that
jump is not gonna continue or you think it stops
just this year?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Every every place he's big. No, I'm playing with okay,
would I'm not putting.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Hold up, Litten. We're gonna go through the AFC, and
I want you to tell me who they gonna knock out.
So we think the Chiefs, the Chargers, the Broncos. That's
the AFC West because those all three were playoff teams
last year. Bow Knicks in his second year, he's probably
gonna be better with Sean Payton. No, you gonna have
that sophomore. Let them off ward swamp huh okay. And
then you go to the AFC East, the Bill's gonna
be in. So that's four teams that made it AFC North.
(32:06):
We probably gonna pick the Ravens for sure. That's five teams.
And then you got the a FC South, whether it's
the Texans, the Coats, the Titans, whoever it is.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
You gotta realize something. Of all those teams.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
You said, I feel like our defense can play better
and if we get a quarterback that can. Actually, I
don't believe y'all defense was better than the Broncos defense
last year.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
They wasn't better in the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
The Broncos had one of the best defenses in the
league with two of the better pass rushers in the league.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I said it could play better. I didn't say it
was better.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
But if they didn't play better last year and you
got the young defense that got better in Denver, because
now this is what this how I look at it.
The Steelers gonna be competing with these teams because it's
gonna be one spot for all these teams. I'm about
the name the Miami Dolphins, then New England Patriots, and
the Bengals. Those three teams Yeah, we got all them. Huh,
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we got all them.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Ya can't y'all not beating us? Mhm, y'all not beating us?
Come on now, they're not gonna beat us. Yes, y'all
can't stop us. Stop lou.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Joe Burrow, Jamar, Chase t Higgins, Chase Brown, Mike Deseki,
y'all not stopping us? And then that and then that
old line we had last year. Huh we had last
year one and one, I'm saying. And the bad part
is the game that y'all won. It was uneffing bro
We let Russell Wilson shred us for four hundred yards
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in the air. Best game of the season. We got
new defensive coordinator. I'll bet money on that we're gonna
beat you'all last ball games this year.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Hey, you know what now that.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
We're talking about the Steelers and beingles producer, say, y'all
got the clip that we was talking about yesterday when
I did my shoes, So we can get in that
real quick before Kivy ring go get.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
On, y'all got y'all got that?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Okay, hold up, Paulsey, Paulsey, Paulsey pauses right quick, paulsa
right quick?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So let's go backstory, right. So that season we were
one of the best teams in the league. Were all young.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Carson our quarterback, myself, Chad Chris Henryette receiver made me
rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
We was damned the unbeatable.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Our offense was top three in the league, if I'm
not mistaken. Our defense total yards weren't good, but they
were number one in force turnovers. And uh we played
the Steelers in Pittsburgh, and I forget. The hotel we
stayed at was a big ass hotel at Pittsburgh. Man
and I get on the elevator a bunch of Pittsburgh
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Steeter fans and then you know, they talking shit, but
they being super cool. So I told buddy, they had
terrible towels and they're just waving them and I'm just
joking with them and whatnot. And I say, he let
me buy that from you twenty dollars. He's like, no,
I said one hundred dollars. As I said one hundred dollars,
he said yeah. So I gave him one hundred dollars
and he gave me the terrible for nineteen from where
(35:10):
I'm about to get on the team bus to go
to the stadium right then.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, it's so uh.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
We come out for pregame. We come out for pregame,
and I got it on to my left side as
a streamer.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
So I'm warming up with that thing, you know, with
that thing now, and Marvin walks by me and he
snatches it.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So I turn around because I'm to myself pregame.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I turn around, like, Mark, give me it back. Bro
with you.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I'm like, I'm trying to take it back. He wouldn't
give it back to me. So the whole game, obviously
I didn't have it. So the game ends, by the way,
I had a great game. I had two touchdowns over
I think I had over one hundred yards, but I
know I for sure had two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So as we walk.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Into the tunnel, it was hanging out at I guess
he must have given it to a huge It was
kind of I could see part of it hanging out
the back pocket of his pants.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Man, I'm pulled that ship right on out. I'm running
off the field like this, and then I get.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Towards the tunnel and I was like, let me sit
down and just do this now, y'all go ahead, play it,
go ahead, play it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
So I just start doing that. Just it was just
kind of impromptu.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I hadn't thought about it, and I didn't think anything
of it.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, that was what down for right there, Baby, I
didn't I didn't think anything of it. I was just
having fun. Right, You never heard the Curse of the
Terrible Time? Hey, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Real It's real crazy because I'm I talk a lot
of video I play video games, right, just Madden. I'm
in a Madden chat right now, the chat. Damn there
every player in the chat that is from Pittsburgh. They
all love the Steelers. And so when they because I
don't tell people who I am, so when they found
out it was me, I know them boys hate me
(36:55):
because I'd be talking shit, they be talking. I just
lost one of these motherfuckers and the uh AFC championship
game too, by the way. But anyway, explain to the
people the listeners. So we played, y'all. We had a
home game. We ended up playing Cincinnati Bengals Pittsburgh Steelers
in a wildcard game. We were at home. We should
(37:17):
have won that game. We were winning that game. So
I didn't even get to play all that game or
got hurt.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yet, Like.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
That was my super Bowl, because had that not happened
to Carson when they introduced me, they would be saying
super Bowl champ tj Wuschmanzada because nobody was beat nutst
that year.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
If you didn't, if you didn't grub up your feet
on that time, Oh, we lose a game.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Carson Palmer gets hurt first play, Chris Henry gets hurt
the first play, which was at fifty sixty yard bomb.
If you recall first play the game, we bombed the
fuck out of y'all and both of those guys go down. Now,
let's rewind explain because I've heard it so many times,
but bits and pieces of it, Bill Coward and head
(38:02):
coach explain all that that led up into it, and
then he'll really be honest with you. I really couldn't
recall exactly what he said in the in the meeting,
but it was pointed out and the video was shown
for sure, Like yeah, it was shown, And like I said,
(38:22):
I think I got hurt the very first play, like
on kickoffs, and then the next play I think is
when uh oh dude got y'all quarterback got hurt at
m Chemo.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Hitting low, cheap cheap shot at him. Nah, you know,
Quo don't cheap shot cheat. No, he's a he's a
stand up dude. I wasn't. He didn't cheap shotting purposely.
But it was a late hit and it was low.
It was low.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
I don't know how lady was. He was kind of
falling into it, so towards a cl Yeah, it was.
But with that being said, I believe we were up.
It was either seventeen seven at halftime or seventeen ten.
We still should have won the game. We had a
lot of uh, we had a lot of mishaps at halftime.
(39:09):
Chapter explain that to y'all when he comes back, he
can explain that to y'allf we want to, y'all ask Chad,
you know what the mishaps were had halftime. But yeah, man,
that that was the year. So I'm young, that's prop.
That's my third or fourth year maybe, so I'm thinking, Oh,
next year, we're gonna be right back here. We're gonna
be right back. We got the same team. No, it
(39:29):
don't work like that, bro, It don't work like you think.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Catch Catch. Don't understand and realize all of the nuances that.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Go into each season and each game and each play and.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
How this play right here could have turned out differently.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
And they don't understand how hard this get back, especially
when you get there like young. You know, it's like
a no, that ship, that ship is. I was like,
we're gonna be back next year and never got back.
We was always good on offense, though I will say
that we were still running and gunning on offense. We
(40:06):
is out that bitch like the patis of the Golden
State Warris. We just love the pacers, We like the words,
but we just the points.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
We just we won't winning. You'll only go to four.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, we wasn't do to state because that's winning championships.
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Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
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