Nightcap - Hour 1: Thunder Destroy Nuggets + Celtics Down 2-0 to Knicks

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and NBA Legend Joe Johnson react to Round 2 of the NBA Playoffs featuring, Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets getting blown out by Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game 2, Jayson Tatum and the Boston Celtics falling behind 2-0 to Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks, and much more!

01:47 - Introduction
04:00 - OKC v Denver
19:10 - Knicks v Celtics
57:00 - Antman’s effort called out by coach last night

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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us
for another episode of Nightcap.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
We are so so sorry about this game tonight, but he.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
We're here one forty nine to one oh six.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
OKC dropped forty five in the first quarter, forty two
in the second quarter, eighty seven points the most points
scored and a play for and a half of a
playoff game. And then they dropped another thirty seven for
good measure in the third quarter, and we knew it
was over. Well, we knew it was over in the
first quarter, but we had to watch anyway. But we
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get into this exciting game. The thunder pommel, the whoa, uh,

(02:41):
it's been a while, you know what I remember, Joe.
I don't know if you remember this old shoe h
in game four, Uh in twenty seventeen. I think that
was the first year KD was in Golden State. In
Game four, Cleveland dropped eighty six in the first half
against against Golden State, and it kind of reminded me
of this situation Like this most points in the first

(03:04):
half of a playoff game in NBA history. I thought
they had an outside a chance to break the Celtics record,
because if I'm not mistaken, I think in a game too,
the Celtics scored one to fifty seven against the Knicks. Now,
they weren't the same Celtics that you know they were
winning championships in the eighty but they were still a
good team. They had started the age, but they dropped it.
Did a number on the Knicks Shae Gilgers. Alexander was sensational,

(03:26):
and they showed you why he's going to win the MVP.
Thirty three points in thirty minutes, eight assists, eleven of thirteen.
He was perfect from the field pre throw line eleven
of eleven. I don't know if I've ever seen a
stat like this. Joe plus fifty one and plus minus
plus fifty one plus minus, Chat Honer plus thirty four,

(03:48):
Jaylen Williams plus twenty three, Isaiah Hartenstein plus nineteen, Shae
plus fifty one, Lou Dort plus thirty four.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
They had eight guys in double figures.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Everybody, if you touched the floor for the OKC Thunder,
you scored in this basketball game. Have a matter of fact, Hell,
I wish I were in attendance by Hey, I wore
by some George they about today?

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, Hey, Sga is the first.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Check this out, Joe, the highest plus minus in playoff
history since the play by play era. Sga is the
first player this century century to belee plus fifty in
a playoff game, and he did it in three quarters. Joe,
I mean, we got to talk about it, but it
damn sure. He must to talk about I mean from
the look, this is how you make amend.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
You don't deal it down there around You let one
slip away.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
The other night you had the game and control and
you bulldived around and you let them get You miss.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Two free throws.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
At the end, bron rebounds, the ball, passes out the Russ.
Russ gets to the head of Aaron Gordon. He knocks
down to three and you lose a game. They didn't
do well on it. All they did was come out
here and drop one forty nine and say, you know what,
that was an operation. You're gonna have need to be
on your best behavior if you want to get rid
of us. When you watch this team play tonight, what

(05:07):
impressed you most about the thunder Man just how poised
and resilient they were to start the game.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
They came out with that desperation that you.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Need, you know what I mean, Like, we know we
wonder won in game one, but we can't let we
can't let this from game two get by. So I
thought they came out man with so much energy and
they just fed off it. Now Shade Levin for thirteen,
I thought he kind of got off to a great start.
He got off to a great start, putting pressure on
the defense, getting into the teeth of the defense, not
only getting his own but making plays for others. And

(05:39):
the one thing I love about OKC, man, not only
did they control pretty much the whole game, but man,
they so un selfish and play for one another.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
They look like so much fun, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh man, they were moving that ball, but they know
when it's time to get it to their money.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
They get it to their money, which is shade.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
And I love how you get to the spots sunk
and oltr he get to it and he raised up
and shoot.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Ain't nothing you can do about it, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
So tonight, collectively from a team standpoint, they always hit
on all cylinders. Everybody was shooting pretty much, you know,
in the high fifties or you know, from the field.
I thought they'd done a great job tonight, you know,
just really bouncing back knowing that they had to win
this game too.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
About the girl to go on the road to Denver like.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
This, This was a pivotal win for them. Nicola Jokic
had his worst night minus thirty six plus minus lowest
plus plus minor physicist career. He had six files, six turnovers.
He had six buckets. I agree with you. I thought
everybody came out with with a system of urgency, with
a purpose.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
They are they unselfish.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
They only had nine turnovers, but they turned the nuggets
over twenty times. And when you turn a team over
that many times, you can get some easy buckets. You
get easy buckets. And all of a sudden, you got
the crowd into the game and they didn't stop every everything.
I mean, they got so many easy shots, you cashe
was eleven or thirteen.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Hartenstein six of seven, Jaylen Williams six.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Of eleven, one of two, one of one, one of
I mean yeah, I mean you got the role players
coming in. But for the most part, at one point
in time, they were shooting fifty nine sixty percent.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
From the floor.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, it's just you let a team shoot sixty percent
from the floor, You let a team shoot over forty
percent from the three, and you let it shoot a
team shoot over ninety percent from the pre throw line.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
This is what you're gonna get, O Joe.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
If y'all like you got a guy throws for three hundred,
he got a two hundred yard Russia and to receiver
withs over one hundred yards. Well, they're gonna have Debiel,
They're gonna have forty plus points. Yeah, oh Joe, you
look at your nuggets one hundred and six points. Considering
how well they played to come back and win that game,
what did it? What was most disappointed about what you

(07:44):
saw from the Nuggets?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean, obviously they allowed Sga to set the tone.
I mean the entire team. There was really nothing Nigga
do it was, there was really nothing. Yogis obviously had
a bad night. Yogis had a bad night. Porter didn't
do much. Aaron Gordon, he ain't done much of this series.
We go ahead, he hasn't. But I think it's not
what the Nuggets can do. But it's what it's what

(08:08):
it is. What okayc did? They came out on fire, boy,
they came out on fire, and they understood, you know what,
there was no reason we were supposed to let that
first game.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Y'all was supposed to win the first game. We come
in here, We for the player around, We for the
bull drive around.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
We Fina set the tone earlier and everything coming, everything
starting stops. Well, g man, he sent the tone right
away on how eleventh he was eleventh, eleven from the line.
Then he left for thirteen the field goals. Then he
had man, he was a fishing all night. Then you
got the bench, the goddamn bench going crazy.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Joe. Yeah, the boys.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Coming in, they scoring, So I mean, I don't think
there was anything that nothing could have done to win
this game tonight.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Absolutely not. I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think the thing is is that he's the head
of the snake, and so when he goes all of
a sudden, he see a couple of shots go in.
Everybody saw a couple of shots go in. She got
off to a really great start start. He a tone
for those two free throws. I'm sure he'd like to
have those back, but unfortunately you don't get those backs.
He was perfect from the free throw line. I mean
they was thirty three or thirty six. So even though

(09:08):
they shot, they shot thirty six threes. Thirty six from
thirty six free throw attempts tell me their extres still
extremely aggressive, Joe. Because when you shoot that many threes,
that's telling me you are extremely aggressive. Even though you
still got thirty plus three point shots up, you got
thirty six attempts from the free throw line. So I'm
not settling heat, Boston. We're gonna get to you in

(09:30):
just a second. Them putting pressure on the defense, Hey,
you're gonna have to slide, continuously slide. And guess what
the on the glass? They were on the glass tonight
they get second chance. They were diving on the floor,
they were getting loose balls. They were not going to
let this game slip by them tonight, and they won
the ball game. I thought they were gonna win by fifty,
have another fifty point win, because if I'm not mistaken,

(09:52):
they beat Memphis I think the first game by fifty plus.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, and looked like they were about to have another one.
But when you.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Score forty forty five, forty two thirty seven, that game
was over. I mean, by the time your starter is
gonna be set down, but it will be chilling because
what SGA played thirty minutes. Nobody else played more than
thirty minutes. SGA played the most. Hongern played twenty six,
Jalen Williams played twenty six, Hartenstein played twenty two, lou
Dort played twenty seven, and then you got your role

(10:19):
players playing twelve the most. I say, Joe, he played
seventeen he had fourteen points. But that's good because the
next game is what Saturday? I think the next game
is Saturday. So now you get a head start on rest,
you get recovered. The guy's probably with you know, pat
ice on their knees in the ankles to start, and
now you get two days off, so they're gonna huh

(10:40):
oh the game is Friday. Okay, what hell? This was
the easy game for them. This was the easy left.
This was like a shoot around, yeah, because it was okay. See,
this is good for them, though, you know, a good
confidence booster getting ready to go on the road. You know,
playing in Denver, it's gonna be a tough atmosphere, you know.
You know, Denver was gonna play a lot better at home.
You know, hopefully he plays better him and Gordon.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I'm not so sure. I wouldn't start Russ. I mean
I've seen that.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I mean, at some point in time, you gotta get
I gotta get more out of him, Joe. I mean,
I'm getting zero points, I'm getting two points in the
first half.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
That's not enough.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
But don't you think it's better to have Russ coming
off the bench to give you that energy, that spark.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I know you're giving that energy, but he's given you energy.
You're so far in the hole. Yeah, yeah, you see
what I'm saying, because you see you spotted him. I mean,
you have a two enough to lead and the next
thing you know you're down is twenty to four, and
the next thing you know, it's thirty, it's thirty six
to twelve.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I don't think they're gonna do that though, Okay, oh yack,
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Then they don't keep Westbrook come off the bench because
of his his spark, you know, his emotional leadership that
he brings. They need that. They don't need him in
that starting line up. I'm sorry, I don't want to
see him in the starting lineup. I want to see
him continue to come off the bench. But I think
if you denver Man, you gotta kind of just ball
this on up and throw it out the window. Brot

(11:57):
want to watch him, Ben Joe, you can't even watch
film on this and we down. I mean, it ain't
there's no pluses that you could take away from it.
You just gotta you just gotta be happy with the
fact that you went to ok see, you won the
first game, you got one, so to me, it kind
of looked like they just kind of, you know, they
they were it looked like they were satisfied with that side.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's exactly what they looked like.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
They were kind of satisfied a little bit as I'm
watching it, because they ain't had that that bite, that
bite back of the sense of urgency that you need
to compete on the road. And I'm like, man, being
down fifty on the road, that's crazy in the playoffs,
Like I've never seen it like that.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Like, okay, credit for this moment. Mm hmm. I know
I young and Joe, I know it's really early.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
But the Thunder official and now themselves as a legit
finals threat or do you still think them is gonna
come out with the series?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
They been?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Did that?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I mean, you don't win as many games as they
won and not be a serious contender. They're still the
youngest team in the NBA. But if you look at this, ohto,
they've beaten a lot of teams like this in the
regular season.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
But it's a se game series, though it's different, it's
the playoffs seven game series. Can they can they continue
to do this throughout throughout the series? Though tonight no
nobody can do that. This is I mean, there's a
reason why. Think about what they did. Think about what
you just said. Can they continuously do this? But yeah,
can they continuously? They won sixty seven games for a reason.

(13:17):
They beat the best teams in the NBA, and they
beat them decisively. If you look at that plus that
plus margin of victory, it's been sensational. It's been one
of the best in NBA history.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
So absolutely, they've been announced themselves because if you think
about it, last year they kind of underperformed because a
Luka and Kyrie did a number on them. They're really young,
they're still the youngest team in the NBA, but they're
absolutely you know what you're gonna get. They got those
two bigs and they got the MVP. Now, Jalen Williams
had his best game, but if you think about it,

(13:50):
he still didn't shoot. He wasn't that efficient. He's better
than he's an All Star. He's better than what he's
been showing in the postseason. So what happens when he
gets it going. This was Shaye's best game that Shaye
had played some games, but he was shooting forty one
percent coming into this. Get what forty percent forty one
point seven. So now this is more like the shade

(14:10):
we're used to seeing a guy that can give you
thirty or fifty plus percent shooting, that's what we're used
to seeing. Yeah, him playing like that. No, do I
think they're gonna get the one forty nine nine? Probably not?
But do I think they can play it? Just even
if you don't score one forty nine, you can still
play well and not get one forty nine. You can
play well and get one twenty one, twenty five, one thirty,

(14:33):
but you have I mean, think about o Jo. That's
the most points in NBA history and a half.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah. Yeah, so the NBA they going on for seventy
seven per cent down in eighty years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
So the Nuggets, Nuggets, the Nuggers team, they don't have
nothing to be worried about. Nuggas fans. Is it a bag,
it's just a bad Is this a bad game? Or
should they be worried? They should be worried there, I mean,
the thunder was the number one seed. Point.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Reason this is they're not a fluke, They're not this
this is this has been this has been building. Yeah,
and it goes you know, last year where they probably
was a year early. Right, they've ride, They've arrived, they believe.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I think they they.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Definitely have arrived, but uh, you know they've been tested
because now they got to go on the road to
play against a tough Denver team, and they have to
win in Denver. They gotta want to get their home
court back. They gotta win, want to get their home
court back. So, uh, look, I think coming into this
series with okay See being off for such time, uh
in Denver, you know, going through that grueling seven game

(15:35):
series with the Clippers, they came in with a little
momentum and uh you think they kind of hit okay
See in the mouth and it shocked them. Now I
think they, you know, took a step back, but today
they took a step forward as far as you know,
regaining their confidence coming out playing ok See basketball, playing
that the pressed up, dolled up defense from start to finish.
I mean, this this was an awesome game by okay See.

(15:57):
And it's just you know, momentum going in the Game
three and them the Knicks storm back to beat the Celtics.
The Knicks are going to lead in the number two
seed Boston Celtics twenty point come back consecutive days. This

(16:17):
is the first time this has happened and the playoffs
since the tracking started in nineteen ninety eight. Jalen Brunson again,
nine points, three or six, two or two from the
free throw line the Knick I mean, huh, seventeen points. Oh,
this is fourth This is a fourth quarter station.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
The Knicks have scored two hundred and twenty six points
in the fourth quarters this postseason. This is the most
by any team. There's a reason, the reason why Jalen
Brunson won the Clutch Award.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
He's that.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
But I thought the guy that really saved them was
Michael Bridges. Mcial Bridges had no points and in the
fourth quarter he goes and gets fourteen. And the Celtics
not gonna learn. You keep saying that they won the championship.
At some point in time, They're gonna realize. You see
what happens when the threes don't fall point lead and
you keep shooting breeze. The last thing you know, if
the twelve point lead, if an eight point lead, and

(17:08):
now all of a sudden they got a one point
lead or three point lead on you.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well, hold on.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I gotta I gotta question, Joe. Listen, if you live
and die by the three, at what point do you
make adjustments? Isn't that on the head coach? If you
if you know you have a team, you have players
that can play, you have offensive players that you can run,
and you stellly just chucking up three and they're not
going in the point, do you call the time out
and change some.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Much ojo ojo. They ain't got nothing to do with
Joe Missoula. They ain't got nothing to do with the coach.
I put the honest and blame on Tatum and Brown.
You know, yes, because they are the most talented duo
that we have in the NBA right now. Nobody can
guard them too. It took it took them halfway through
the first quarter before Jalen Brown decided to go mid posts.

(17:55):
And you know he got an an one from the
mid post. He be shide the ball, got an an one,
come right back down. He in the midpost again, he
scored another bucket. Well, that kind of got him going.
Then next thing, you know, he and his bag to
start off, he got off. I think he got off
to a great start. He was ready.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, man, it's like, then, what happened, Joe?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
They start jacking up threes. It's like, start gotting up
all these threes. I'm like, bro, y'all gotta keep going
to the wheel, you know, keep getting water from there, man, Like,
keep milking that because even though New York got some
wings that can guard, I don't.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I just don't think.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think if Tatum, I think Tatum and brown got
another level they can go to, and I think they
just letting them dudes off the hook man going with them,
step back, jump shots.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Let me do something, ten eleven, twelve, fifteen threes a game.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
O own your win in the playoffs, man, Like, I expect,
you know, the best, the cream, the rise to the
top as far as talent wise, and I look forward
to Tatum and Brown man starting to get to that cup. Bro, Like,
you can't keep selling for all these threes. You know,
the MIDI I always talk about the mid range game,
but it's always open because they got a lot of
their bad And what we gotta do is give New

(19:03):
York a lot of credit. Dog, giving New York a
lot of credit for them guys sitting down, switching on
defense and just playing man to make good one on
one man the man defense and making them.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Dudes take tough shots that when you look at it.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
McHale Bridges in Game two, in the fourth quarter he
was sensation of fourteen points. All of its points came
in the fourth quarter. He had seven rebounds, five assistant,
two steals. But like you said, Jason Tatum five of
twenty from the field, Jaylen Brown eight of twenty three
from the field, two or seven from the three.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
One to five.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Al Horford has been bad the first two games. Al
Horford has been bad, you know, and you see, this
is the cat I've been asking for.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
What did he do with Joe? He took a big
butt down to the posts. They gave it to as Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was selling for no threes.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
He shouldn't seller for the three he attempted one three tonight.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah one. He was aggressive.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
This is see, this is cat Carl Anthon the towns
like to shoot threes. Try like to get his big
butt down of the block and punish folk they got.
Nobody can guard him. Don't let us off the hook.
Yeah yeah, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Say, oh hey, cat, cat control the interior man against
the Celtics all game long. He out rebounded the Knicks.
I mean, hold on, he he out rebounded the Knicks.
I mean the Knicks. He out really rebounded the Celtics.
Damn there all by itself. Yeah, thing seventeen that I

(20:34):
still don't understand, Joe and un I don't understand when
we go when we play two halves, right and we
going the halftime, the first thing we do if something
not working are what we normally do.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
We scrap it, we go to something else.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
So y'all to sitting here telling me this is the
way they played and they gonna live and die by
the three.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Well, something got to change because this is looking y'all
told me, both of y'all told me that the Celtics
was gonna win this series, and the way he's looking
right now, it's about to be a gentleman sweep the
other guy there, white.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
O Joe, hold up, now, we do have to pause
a little bit because this series ain't over. Bro Boston,
I know, I know, I know, but down two that
makes it that much more difficult. Yet, but they the
best road team in the NBA. For whatever reason, they've
been the best road team in the NBA and they
play well on the road, whether it's just because it's
just them players in their locker room. I don't know

(21:25):
what it is, but they squandered away two games. So
I look for assistant desperation coming from the Celtics when
they go to New York. Now, New York gonna be live.
The people are gonna be in there ready, Man, They're
gonna be in the yeah and best legal act of
the dawn for man. Man, it's gonna be looking to
do the right thing. You'l days however, you want to say,

(21:45):
if the fight go be on one, Yeah, a Joe,
I'm glad you just said that.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
You said the Celtics now would be in an active desperation.
So what's the first thing when a team that is
definitely what's the first thing they're gonna do? Go to
what they know how to do best?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Right?

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Jack up three? And how does that work? The past
two games? I got them, Joe, Joe, you said it, Joe.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
They were doing good to Joe, they were driving the ball,
get the ball to the pay and then all of
a sudden, I mean they got they got through like
three offensive rebound yeah three, miss three, miss three, and then.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Talk about I'm talking about it.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
It's like it's like in the second half, I could
kind of feel it like just dwindling away.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
It's like, I don't know, man, New York.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
You know, in the fourth quarter especially, they just went
into another gear and the only thing New York wanna do.
They just want to hang around. Okay, oh Joe, that
that stick round. They want to be They have a
fighting chance with the last five fants of the game.
And it's like from the Detroit series now to this
series against Boston and you have kept themselves alive. Man,
They've been down twenty points in both games on the

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road and you come back and in the fourth quarter
under five minutes, you have a fighting chance.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
And every time they've came.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Through and clutch moments, they made big plays defensively. Give
Micheal Bridges his props because he's Josh. Get Josh Hart's
credit to if I'm just speaking from Michale making these
huge players at the end of the game one and
the in the game too. Yep, yeah, I don't know.
I got see what happens, oo cho. They had gotten

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so far the rhythm. See, the thing is when you
take so many threes, you you've forgotten how to run
set plays because all you do is used to jacket
up threes. You put the high pick and guess what,
launcher three? They get the switch larger three launcher three.
So now in the fourth and now in the last
final two minutes of the game, when you need something
going to the basket, it's hard to get some. Now

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they got to had a great play with Jason Tatum.
They got the high pick and he split it and
he dunked the ball. They tried to run that same play,
but oh g did a great job of sinking and.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Wouldn't let it.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
So they had him, had him leveled off, and then
they pushed him to the corner, and so he got
there and there, and there's Mitchell Robinson and there's Michel Bridges.
So they had it himed up and he really couldn't
go anywhere. So he's looking to pass the ball mckal
bridges deflected. They got it, throw it ahead. But that's
what happens when you're used to jacket up for It's
like a football game with all you're doing is used

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to run Atlanta. All they were used to doing was
throwing the ball. Throwing the ball. Now, all of a sudden,
O Joe you need to run the ball to take
your time off the clock. Well, ain't got no running
players on yo New England game? Yes, so because guess
what in the second half you threw You ran the
ball less than the New England and they were the

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one that was down twenty eighty three.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
So how is that possible?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
You got you a rush attempts and you up by
twenty five, Ben the team that's down by twenty five.
Make it make sense and you see what happens. Think
about how they got the lead, got a twenty point lead.
They running the ball? Who lay up Holiday doing what
he's doing? The look they trying to get hollered. They
trying to pick Holiday off of Brunson. They want they
want to anybody else they try to get the.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Match up with.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
They're gonna get the match up with Preaching if he's
in there. They won't that matchup if they got Al Horford. Hey, Al,
you busy committed to Hall as your quick and you see, brother,
he has it. He got that handy, he ate he
up faked.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
You jumped again. He going around you.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Now if you sit hand down, Mark Jackson, if your
hand down, man down.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
And he pulling.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
So look at some point in time it looks good,
O Joe. They took and you're not Golden State. Jason
Tatum and Jaylen Brown. You're not Golden State. You're not
Stephan Clay. You're never gonna be known as the greatest
shooting backcourt in the NBA history. It's not gonna happen. Hey,
so I don't care. I don't care if you shoot

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a thousand and three each of you. By I mean
you shoot a thousand. Uh, Derrick White shoot a thousand.
That's three thousand free between those three players. Nobody is
ever gonna confuse you three guys with Stephan Clay. It's
not gonna happen. Man, Listen, we gotta get in New
York credit though. Okay, oh Joe, you know still want
to see the thing that's keeping out and they big,

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you know, limited is because when they run the pick
and roll, they not doubling the ball, they're not doing nonheing.
They switching and they make Nyalen Brown and Jason Tatum
going to their bag. And you're gonna have to show
us something the way if you can score thirty or
forty one on one, Okay, cool, We're gonna deal with that.
But the thing is Boston has had a hard time
Jayalen Brown and Jason Tatum has had a tough time

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against Michal Bridges, Og, Josh Hart, josh O g. You know,
even Cata sat down and guarded Tatum and Brown on
multiple occasions.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
So you know, those dudes are not for the fight, man,
They ain't playing. They come to win, and they've shown
in both games just just such a gritty, gritty, tough team. Bro.
They've been like that the whole year.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
And when you watch these dudes play, you look at
they starting five and all the minutes that they they
packing in.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I'm like they log forty three.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Michael Bridges had forty three to night, Og had thirty eight.
Towns had thirty five, Bruns and had thirty eight. Josh
Hart had forty three.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Maybe it's just me, but Jaylen Brown got the loosest
handles I've seen about NBA Super NBA star player, a
guy that that's good. His handles shouldn't be that loose joke. Now,
they shouldn't be a sixth turno. He had six turn
over the day. Yeah, I mean, I'm talking about his handles.
I mean, and it plagged him. You remember when they
lost the Golden State. It was his handles. He kept

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getting the ball swipe. He couldn't score consistent. And Jason
Tatum was even worse than Jaylen Brown, if you can
believe that.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
But they fixed it. They right or wrong.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
They ended up winning a championship. But they better get
in a The worst thing you can do is give
a guy confidence. Man a goy knock you down in
the fight.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
He might have.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Oh he a heavy underdog. That's the And the longer
you leave a guy round o Joe, Yeah, but more
he thinking you beat you. That's what happened with Buster Douglas.
See all of a sudden, Mike Tyson be getting out
there in the first three and now we in deep water.
I don't know how well you can swim. I know
in the kiddy you can stand your ass up, and
the water's only waist deep. I got your ass right here.
Your feet can't touch the bottom. Hey, listen, New York.

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Don't play on coming back to Boston. Guy.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
They don't play no I do.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
They don't play it on its Listen, it's not looking good.
I don't know how many Celtics fans we have in
the chat that are watching. I would like to know
in the chat if you feel like the Celtics have
an opportunity or chance to come back, Please let me know.
Please let me know, because based on what I've seen
the past two games and the little bit of knowledge
I know from watching the games the past two three years,

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it's not looking good.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Chan, I know you mad, you're upset. Nixon five.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Hey, think about the Celtic shot fifteen free throws. Now
they've missed. They've missed seventy five threes in two games.
Damn seventy five. They shot twenty five percent. They shot
twenty five percent to night. Ask what did shoot the
other night? On my they was fifteen or sixty.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
But hey, Joe, they're not gonna look like that the
rest of the series, though they don't have a game
with Derek White.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
You said they were to look like that. You said
they were gonna look like this in game two. That's
two games I said that they shot.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Guess what they shot twenty five percent the first game. Yeah,
I think I think the I think the Knicks making
an emphasis. You know, I know they I know I
know the Celtics missal a few wide opens. But I
think the Knicks making an emphasis not to give up
wide open. You know, too many wiles. Yes, right, they
contested every year. Yeah, yeah, they're making it tough. Man.
They're making them do his work now, you know, on
both fans of the floor, and uh I'm not sure

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if it's taking their legs, but I'm Boston, do look
a little hobble.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
They got the guys they you know, Tatum don't like
he moving that great. Uhl.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
They don't look like he moving that great. But well,
Holliday is just coming off that ham string, so I
expect him to be. And you know, they're making it work.
I mean the guard Brough, I mean he's taking all
he got because brunts and a they running them off
pigs and they keep picking him and doing all those things.
They're gonna make you go side to side. Cat, this
is what I'm talking about. Cat one three point attempt,

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he punished al on the block. They ended up having
to put Jaylen Brown on him. But Jayl, Jayalen too small,
You're too small. Heiland too small to Jason Tatum too small.
They ain't got nobody to get deal with Cat if
can't make up in his mind and This is what
we've been asking Cat to do. See, this is what
we asked Cat to do against Dallas last year. But no,
he wanted to shoot threes. And the game that he

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went down on the block, they ended up winning.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
O Joe. But then guess what next gave me come
back out there? Hold on, porzingis they can't make that
justin and at the fatal See, he needs some he
needs some cinder blocks in his back pocket. I know.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, so you got to have somebody with some size
and some length in order to deal with Cat. You're
gonna get the same goddamn results.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Hey look here, you not you not catching You not
catching no tuna. Nok ain't pole. So cave pole is
for brill cave for small catfish. But listen, hey, listen
to what you just said. Joe.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
You're not even the coast for the Celtics. Matter of fact,
hold on, you're not even the coast for the Knicks.
But you just said what to do to win this series? Yeah,
do the same thing they didn't. Got nobody to deal
with deal with to deal with Cat, go back to
old Go back to old schootball, Go back to those
had the point guard have brush and bring it up
and had got damn cat ass and that goddamn posts

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or at the instead.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Of the topic.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I think I think TIBs coach Tibbs, he like getting
cat on the move on the goal, Like I don't
think he really wanted to like stand still, you know
what I mean, dumping it down that to him.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Like, I know, they will do it, especially in the
fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
They've done it quite a bit, you know, going down
the stretch, but to start the game off, they trying
to get it moving more pick and roll, picking pop,
you know, things of that sort. But it's kind of
Boston taking that that pick and pop away a little
bit too because they switch everything as well on Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
They got the lead.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Defend, you know, Al normally a better defender than that,
but Darry White can defend. Holliday and Derrick White both
was all on the All Defensive team. We saw Jaylen
Brown do a great job on Luca last year in
the playoffs. Al Horford is normally a better defending than
what he's been showing these first two games.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I think he'll pick that up.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
But the thing is is that, you know, like you said,
you got to give the Nicks some credit the Niggs
executing their offense, especially especially when the rubber needs to
meet the role. This is that. Look, I don't want
to hear how good your offense is or your defense
is if you can't get done what you need to
get done when you absolutely got to happen. We talk

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about this all the time, joein football, Oh, Jo, and
I I said, yeah, man, they got the best offensive football,
but they couldn't stay on the fielding on third down.
They couldn't get a first down, They couldn't they couldn't
get the ball in field goal range.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Well, that don't tell me how good you are.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Okay, my defense, they're giving up ten points a game, well,
while you let them go right down the field and
to score touchdown and win the game.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
So it doesn't matter what yours, your statistics say.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
It only matters can you get done what you need
to get done when you absolutely have to have it,
and right now when the Knicks need to get it.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
I don't know what they are offensively in the regular season.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I don't know what they are defensively in the regular season,
but I know this, when they need to get stops,
they get them.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
I know when they need to get buckets.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
They get it. It's really that simple. I mean, we
can make sports as complicated as we want to. We
can talk about the one you know, we could do
one flap, you know, one flour. We can do the
picking pop and we can do all we can do
all this, we can do flopping, we can do pinning downs,
and we can do players. Call it whatever you want.

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Can you put the ball in the bucket when you
need to? Can you stop them from putting the ball
in the bucket when they need to? And right now,
one team can put the ball in the bucket when
they need to, and stop the team from putting in
the bucket when they need to, and the other team can't.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
It's really that simple. Yeah, I want to play that.
I want to play that Azata real quick, go ahead,
Uncle Joe.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
So think about this now. I'm assuming at some point
that the Celtics is gonna play well, right, Derek White,
gonna beyond Jayden Brown from beyond. Tatum's gonna show up
and do it, do it he's used to doing, right.
But what happens if they go in the Knicks win
Game three? What happens just just so happened? They still

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a game.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Winning four three. Because you said, O Joe, you said,
what happened when the Celtics played well? What happened when
the next play well? The next shot forty three percent,
They shot twenty nine percent from the three? What make
it seem like they playing well? They're not okay? But
I'm just saying. That's why I said, let me let's
play Devil get Advocate game three. What happened if they

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still game three to New York, then yeah, and they
bost him back against the wall. They can't, man, Listen,
they gotta do whatever they can game three to go
into Madison Square and win the game.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Bro, I'll you can win ugly, gonna win pretty, but
you can't win, Ojo. They can. They're going in game
three and come out of it down Old three. Bro.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Nah, they can't. I don't forget. I don't see a
scenario where they winning for straight.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
You don't see a scenario where, uh if they go
down Old three. I don't see a scenario with boss
to win four straight.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Na. See, I told you I should have I should
I knew I should have bet, y'all.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I knew I should have bet because some just told
me everybody, every analyst, every punding, the basketball as first,
everybody had their self just winning and the Nickson proving
everybody wrong.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Well they proved they they proven all y'all wrong. And
I just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I know what I'm seeing, I know what I'm seeing,
and I just, for the life of me, I don't understand. Okay,
the threes on working run some goddamn players. What the
eff are we doing? Not we excuse me, my bad,
but what are they doing?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
It's well, it's kind of oh yo, in the football term,
when you throwing the ball and bro run it. Bro
if if like Kansas City, we saw that in the
Super Bowl. You like, hey man, you gotta take fresh
y'all Patrick home. But they really ain't run the ball
all year. Their office a lot have been bad. Yeah,
and so now you get you get a Pachecko. He
just coming back off injury.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Uh, Clyde.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
It was a layer that had released him because he
had some things going on, deal with dealing with some things.
And they signed some ready, but who I forget who
they signed and they had the guy from Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
What's the guy? Uh with a big deer? I forget.
I forget him. He caught.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
He caught the player in the in the championship game
against Buffalo to run the time out. But when you're
not used to doing something, oh Joe, it's hard to go.
You used to throwing the ball, Boston used to shooting
the three, so it's hard to tell them. Okay, guys,
let's let's just run some sets now. Yeah, okay, well
we've bring jacket of threes all year.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
They can't run sins though, because uh, New York is
switching everything like so they may switch and you may
catch brust and garden al Horford, you know what I mean.
You wanta try to take buns of that. But outside
of that, you know, you just hope that Tatum and
Tatum or Brown'll just take the initiation hip catch five,
catch it at the elbow, catch it at the at

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the high posts or whatever to where they probably ain't
even got to take a dribble to even get a
shot off. But you need them dudes more aggressive, more active,
probably even less picking rolls, and they got to try
to get to the basket. Man. If not, you know,
you know, settle for some of them mid range shots
versus just selling for fifteen threes at night, you know,
a piece, you can't have that.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, they need to play better.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Cat versus Boston, they had twenty one points, seventeen rebounds.
He's the first Knicks, first Nick to reach those numbers
in the playoff game since Carmelo did it in twenty eleven.
Jason Tatum in Game two, he was thirteen points, fourteen rebounds,
shot five or twenty from the field. Is it time
to talk about Jason Tatum because he has not shot
the well the ball.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Well, see we go back.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
And look at those thirty five Oh, he had three
straight games of thirty five points thirty plus more points
against Orlando. But look at the shooting percentage. Look how
many shots he took him to get that. Yeah, he's
shooting forty percent.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
On the floor. Yeah, it's time. It is time to
have a serious conversation about Jason.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Tatum because everybody, see, everybody still want to harp on
what happened in France.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
That happened. We can't go back. We won the gold medal.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, I'm sure everybody would have loved to play seventeen
to twenty minutes, but that wasn't gonna be the case.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
It's never been the case.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Just like on the original Dream Team in ninety six
and two thousand, the redeem team in a row or
whatever the case may be, everybody over there is deserving.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
And well, he got guys on his teammates holiday playing
it and I don't care about that. That's over. We
got the gold medal.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Let's talk about him now in the playoffs and those
shooting percentage they beat on Orlando team that they should
have beat. Now, he struggled shooting the basketball in these playoffs,
and he struggled struggling shooting and again, and it's time
to have a conversation. It ain't about no hate. We're
gonna take the face of the NBA off the table.

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Let's talk about him and his play currently. Yeah, he's
not He's not the fake. We know who the face
of the NBA.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Right, I think I think he still has a chance to,
you know, come out and redeem himself in this series.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Like I said, the series ain't over.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I think that they're they're a great, you know, road team,
and the testament of a true champion is how you
bounce back and defeat, right, I think, you know, if obsolutely.
We know they got a championship pedigree they won last year.
This is probably gonna be the hardest task that they're
gonna have to deal with going into New York trying
to win game three. That's all they need to be

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at this point. Don't even worry about Game four. We
just need to do whatever we can to get Game three,
and uh, that's the biggest challenge at this point.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Get some off of this. They need confidence right now.
I don't care what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Now, they gonna say all the right thing, Joe, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's got like you in the corner and that gotta
beat hell out you for six d you right, that
chail he failed, not coach. Somebody here help it. Somebody
helping it, because I'm looking for the right you know.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
It's only you know, it's only one way for him
to get confidence. Right, Your shots gotta fall in order
for Jason Tedding to get in rhythm. He gotta keep shooting,
even if even if I'm sure, obviously it depends. I
don't know how his mental is. You know, some some
players and Millenie strong, they could be happy, they could
be in a slump.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
They don't care.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
They're gonna keep pulling the sugar if he if he
have a mental block. But this series might be over,
especially if they come to the Guard and they and
they win game three.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Man, I got I got I got I got boss
to show us some grit. I got him.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Sure they they So you whoa hold on, hold on, Joe,
hold on, hold on now, go ahead when it's game
three on Saturday, ship saturdayday. So so, Joe, you got
you got Boston. You got Boston winning game three Saturday.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, I got Boston winning game three. Are you sure
about that? You want you want to put you want
to put a change on that. And you're so flickered, bro,
I'm scared to even bet. But you ain't gonna lie
to you. O Joe, No gonna make it light. How
about you gonna bet it is a light hundred dollars? Nah? Okay,
all right, all right, O Joe little ain't nothing. That

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ain't nothing.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Hey, this is how you know Jason Tatum not being aggressive?
He shot two free throws? Yeah, Jaylen Brown shot four
free throws. Those are your two best players, and they
shot a combined six free throws between the two of them.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
You know, wait, it's hard to get it. It's hard
to get to the whole. It's hard to get to
the paint. It's hard to get in there and freeze. Oh, Joe,
I ain't founding no jump shooter. Hell look, let you
shoot it.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
If you want to stand it, if you want to
stand up there in chunking a if you want to
stay out there and chunk it in the ocean, go
right ahead.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
You ain't doing no damage.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Ain't listen. That's why I say we got to get
New York credit. Man, It ain't it ain't that. It
ain't that easy. Like them dudes sitting down, they playing,
They guarden, they pay to move, you know what I mean?
Like they ain't just giving them dudes on layups. I
just think Tatum and Brown are so talented. They talented
enough to be able to and pose their will as
far as scoring the basketball, like nobody should be able

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to stop them to. They too gifted, Bro, They got
too many tools in their toolbox and they just using
this one.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Rent. Man, you got to bring something that's upbout their toolbox. Bro.
But but Joe, you know, when you have success doing something,
it's hard for you.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You Hey, if Karee. What happens is I be thinking
about it. If somebody could take away that sky hook,
what is Kareem's gonna go to. He's had success with
this skuyhook so much. That's all he knows.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Because they've shot the ball so well from three, they've
made the three.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh you know, when they lose a game and they
shot thirty three, I tell them what the problem is,
we should have shot forty, we should have shot fifty.
So that's ingrained in their mind. So now hey, let's
not go to the basket. Let's not try to get filed.
Let's not try to do that. Let's just stand back
here at jack threes. Eventually they're gonna go in. They might,
but they might not go into this series when they

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are deadly when they're attacking the basket, like I said
early in the game, man, when they were getting to
the cup, making plays, you know, getting getting offense, getting
second chance offensive points, you know, things of that sort.
Because see, when you attack the basket, even if you
don't mention, you give yourself a chance to get a
put back or something. But when you just out there
shooting them long threes, man, and they bouncing off, they
fast breaking it the other way.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah, it's a momentum momentum buster. And uh, that's what
them threes do. That's what them threes are doing. Man,
they lead to, you know, mismatches on the other end.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I'm not I'm not. I'm not Cleo. You know I'm not.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Uh, I'm not really one that's able to tell the future.
I think the final gonna be Nixon Wolves.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
You think Nixon? Who I know, y'all, I know I
probably don't like it. Yeah, I'm telling you, I don't know.
I don't know if the I don't know if the
Wolves can beat the Thunder. What else I'm telling you? Listen,

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because here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
If the Wolves play their best in the Thunder play
their best, who you taking, Joe, I'm probably taking Okay,
see exactly.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
That's the thing you told.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Y'all told me it was gonna be a gentleman sweeping
this series and it they down too old.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
So but that didn't okay.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
See, Hey, yeah, I think if you just saying, if
you say, if you said, I think you said, Hey,
we're gonna talk about them in a minute. But don't
you sleep on Indiana now, because Indiana gonna push the pace.
Make a miss, they get it out the basket or
they get it off the rim. But they pushing tipple right,
They're gonna make it. They're going to make you. They're
gonna make you defend.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Quick. They cutting their backs, They doing an unbelievable jobs.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
And Jason Tatum in the first Jason Tatum in the
first half one for seven, two points, Jaylen Brown in
the second half, one for seven, three points, four turnovers.
Now your two best playoffs. That's what they gave you. Yeah,
they need they need way more contribution from them to Uh.
Like I say, man, I just think just they have
to assert themselves into the game, you know, not waiting

(45:29):
for these three point opportunities or these switches and mismatches. Man,
sometimes you gotta go take it, bro. You got to
initiate yourself with it's crashing the glass, getting easy layups,
back doing.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, set and picks, things of that sort.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Uh. Because they too talented, Okay, oh jo, they too talent,
and like I said, they want they approven champion they
wanted last year. This is just a test and a
stepping stone into their legacy as far as how they
want to be remembered as far as people and they
trying to repeat. Obviously they know they got did they
like this deep hole? Which I think they could do.

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The thing I like to tell people all the time, Joe,
I say, there have been plenty of teams that's won
one in a row.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Right to be special?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Go repeat football, basketball, baseball, hockey, it doesn't matter. Repeat.
There were a lot of teams that wasn't won in
the row. Yeah, you gotta be locked in, bro, there's
a reason why you have so many have so few
repeat champions. Go look at the sports now, you know,
I mean way back where it used to get it

(46:32):
a lot. I mean, I think the Islanders, I mean
back in the late seventies eighty they won four straight
Stanley Cups. Basketball, you get, I mean, think about it.
You get the three p Lakers, you get the three peat.
Celtics did it twice. Nobody that's repeated now. The Celtics
ran off eighth straight. But the great, but the great
Spurs team they never repeated that Big Three Celtics they

(46:53):
never repeated. I mean they as a matter of fact,
the Celtics and Spurs never won back to back. It's
hard to do.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
To keep that focus year after year after year. It's special.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
It's hard, you damn right, it's hard because everybody's gunning
for you. Yeah, one slip up now it's I think
it's easier to to to to repeat in series sports
than in football because seeing football, every game, every playoff
game is a game seven.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
You don't have to be the best team that you
just said you have seen that day. That's it.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, see the number the time. The best team will
normally in a series the best. It's hard to hit
for a gun. Get buzzle beating right right, Hey, all
I gotta do a Oh, Joe, I forced a fumble
a kick the walk off game within the field goal.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
It is my season over. Yeah, I agree, but I
know them to be guns. They better start firing. Yeah,
Tatum and Brown, they better start playing better. Listen, all
you got.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
All they got to do is stop shooting threes. Hey, Joe,
you just said it. They got a bag, they got
tools in the box. Get to your spot, get to
the hole. Look, use your MIDI put the ball on
the floor, create space, call for the iol do shothing
just or.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Just watch the film of the two games.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
It's been a tail of two halves, man, Like, you've
been up twenty in both games, you know what I'm saying,
in the third quarter, not the first half, because you
know the first half you kind of throw that away, Joe,
cause you know, because with that three ball, anything could happen.
But you've been up by twenty in the second half. Yeah,
midway through the third quarter and they walk you down. Yeah,
the past two games. I don't know how you let

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that happen, man, especially after the first one. You know,
you think you'll be prepared, but they look shell shocked
down the stretch.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
They looked like they didn't know what to do or
how to do it or get to their spots. Like
it was a lot of indecisiveness that I wasn't used
to seeing from the Celtics. So I expect them to
watch the film and then get back to the drawing board.
As far as you know, game three, I expect for
them to be a totally different team. Meaning I'm not
saying Tatum and Brown probably gonna shoot threes. They gonna

(49:09):
shoot threes, but I expect for them to be attacking
getting to that basket, putting the onus on the referees
to make make.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Plays called files.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
M Yeah, all season fans of bass, what did the
Knicks get for the five first round picks? They got
Michael Bridges because think about it, they gave up all
those picks for him, and that's I'm like, damn, you
give up those kind of picks for a guy like
a Luca, like a KD, like a Shade, a Yannis,
a Yop. Michale Bridges. They had the game winning steel

(49:41):
and then he had the game winning deflection, So.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
I guess that's what you got for.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, this is why you go get Michel Bridges og
because you want them guys to pair and be able
to guard and guard Tatum and Brown and take them
to the break, which they these past two games getting
those two guys and Josh Hart.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
You know, they all take turns by committee.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Defensively, they're doing a pretty good job, man, and they
put they they've left themselves in a in a chance
to where, you know, laid down the stretch where.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
They're gonna win games like when it when it doesn't even.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Look look that pretty like they haven't even played a great,
great brand of basketball by play, you know what I mean,
They still win these other games on the road So
it says a lot about the New York Knicks and
coach Tom Thibodeau, you know, on the Skins that he's
been able to, you know, oppose on the Celtics within
these first couple of games.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
But as the Tills, I mean, you go back and
look at when he coached the Bulls. They won ugly games.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
They're not a team that's gonna you know, esthetically everything
is flowing and looks smooth and everything it looks chaotic,
but they find a way to where they play tough, back,
gritty basketball. And you're absolutely right. We need wing players.
This is why they got mckal bridges. We need somebody
that could guard Tatum and Brown o g could guard
and he got a big body. You can't run through it.

(50:56):
Mchal bridget is long and lanky, got great wings. Fan Hey,
he can deflect a lot of passes, he can can
test a lot of shots. Now and they still have
princess ature. They still got Josh Hart. So like you said,
at most times, they got three guys that can defend
at a very very high level.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yes, and now you got Brunston. You got a guy
like Brunson who's clutch. Last five minutes of the ball game.
Game within five points. Hey, I'm putting the ball in
his head.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
It's hard to find somebody better than Josh Hart than
excuse me than.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
It is in a clutch situation. It is.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
He's shown shown improving, you know over the years, man
laden games.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
He can get to the cups. See he gonna get
you a fire little bucket every time. Yeah, one of
the It's something about them left it though, Joe.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Why the more folks so crafty James hardness like that,
he's like that.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
All the left handed man down r Marlu Jobli jerk.
He has ain't Jaylen Brown left handed? Nah? Who nah?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Jay? No, he should never put the ball in his
left hand. No, absolutely not. He should not trouble love it.
I agree on them lefties. I told you all like
they got an advantage from jumps. I don't know what
it is, but he is so crafty and he turned
into the he turned into the biggest five men I
ever seen in life. When he's getting the paint and

(52:20):
he go to pivot in and yeah it jump hooking
up like man. But uh, he he has been the
hardened their heart and soul. Bro.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
They team you know, for for for the past couple
of years, and he will not let them lose. Nope.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Ad man effort was called out by his head coach
last night. Speaking to reporters, falling to the feet, Chris
Finch said, it starts with ant. I thought he struggled
and you can just take kind of see the light
go out a little bit for a while. But then
Fincher expanded on his thoughts, adding, what is there to
talk about. You're the leader of the team. You got
to come in and set the tone. If your SHOT's
not going in, you still have to carry that energy.

(52:55):
If I got to talk, if I've got to talk
about guys having the right energy coming in the over
the second round, we're not on the same page. And
Man re sparted saying people are going to try to
blame whatever, blame whoever. They can blame me, but we
just didn't play good enough.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Oh Joe, who's like that? You gotta set the table,
you gotta come I mean that. What was he like
O for at one point in time? And Man was like,
oh for nine Yeah, m hm, you can't.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
He can't be that way right now because he he
he ain't look he called out. He said he wanted
to smoke. He yeah, you want that the Warriors out.
He said he wanted to play against the Warriors because
Drakemond talked trash.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Well, you know what, you you gotta step to the table.
You gotta come out with that. Send some urgency.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Bro. Let them dudes know that you're here. You know
what I mean, Like, you gotta come out force if
you have to force it to start out. But you
got to put your market step on the game. And
it took him, It took him too long to kind
of get going. And hey, man, Golden, stay tough, broy.
They remind me a little bit of the Knicks as
far as defensively, how they switch, keep the guys in

(54:06):
front and make you take tough shots. I know they're
a little small down there, but listen, Drake Man and
Drakemond and in them.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Dudes down Butler, Butler, they fighting, Bro, they fighting. And
they even got Buddy He'll think he could play defense man.
But hey, buddy, Buddy, feeling is the game seven?

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Nay?

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Yeah? Hey they got Buddy. Hey, buddy fitting in the
chair your game, you know, and you know that stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Rub about man, when you got them hard, they rubbed
boutf on you in in a way you probably even
know that you know you could do.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
But I'm worried about the Warriors because of because of
step Steph.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Even if he do come back, okay, oh Joe with
a half string injury, y'all him, you know, it takes
time to that.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Thing for a minute and running mm hmmm what his
game is predicated on? Yeah, you see, you see how
I told you exactly what it was. I told you
was a grade boy, It was a grade one actually,
And I said, he gonna miss it, miss a week,
maybe two.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
He's gonna miss this one.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
But I think, and and especially with what coach saying,
you know, every coach can't come out and talk about
your player like that. Every coach can't come out and
say something like that because some of them don't respond
to criticism that way very well. And is a is
a perfect example of a player that can take that.
Not only can he take that, Watch how you answer
to it, Watch how you answer. Don't ask us down.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
He gonna answer to it.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Now.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Listen. The cream always rides to the top, always, And
that's the way.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
That's the way for a coach to say something and
get his player not only motivated, not that he needs it,
but just to keep just through, just remind him not
everything starting stops with you.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
You said you want that smoke.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
This comes with it, include me, include me being able
to chastise you publicly to let you know, come on now.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Normally, Oh Joe, the coach wouldn't call out the best player.
He would call out Bobby. Bobby Mitchell used to say,
uh uh, Paul Brown used to get on him to
get Jim's attention.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
So, but you got to do a better job of
holding on to the ball, well, coach out in fumble.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Jim did, But he called me about But he's talking
to Jim because he couldn't talk to He couldn't say
say what he wanted to say. That's how That's how
Mike was with me. Mike was like, you got to
do a better job at this. I wasn't one to
miss the block.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
I get it. I get it. Well, he called it out, Shannon,
you know he gonna call out yet. I get it. Okay,
I eat it. That's old me. That's old me.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
But your best player, when you ask for something, what
you grab I tell you what, Joe, don't ask for something.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
You ain't gonna be bother spend all my money for
that toy. You better play with that Toyah, don't ask
for that. Don't ask for nothing else.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Thank you, don't you don't you ask me as long
as you damn you know I'm only six, right, Oh, Joe?

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Done for long? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Hey, but when it comes to professional when it comes
to professional athletes, you understand how sensitive players are in
this era. But man, it's one of the few and
it's only a handful on where your coach can come out,
come out and say that the things he said, because
he knows. I know my player, I know how he is.
I know how he's gonna respond to this. He's not
gonna shut down. Most players they shut down. They shut

(57:31):
down when he is something like, nah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
You, I mean, Joe, you know this I mean And
I tell people don't want to hear I say, the
greater the player, the bigger the ego, the greater listen
to me, The greater the player, the greater the ego.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
And you have to walk that balance.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
And you know the way you talk to somebody else,
I mean, oh you could no, no, you ain't talking
to Jordan like you talking to the twelve gallons. No,
you're not cursing at him, You're not raising your voice
at him. You're like, come on, Mike, come on now,
we gotta we gotta have that. But that's what you're
telling him. But you telling, but you're telling what you're
telling the BJ damn right right right right? I totally

(58:22):
But I think go ahead. But that's the really great coaches.
They really understand what to say and who to say
it to and how to say it. Yeah, because you
can't coach everything, you treat them all fair. Coach Davids,
my coach in college, say, he used to tell us
all the time, I'm gonna treat you'll all fair, but.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I ain't gonna treat you all the same, right right,
I ain't. Look I pig you back what Ocho said.
I think he's right.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I think Ann is the kind of guy that coach
he knew that he can kind of call out and
run to like, you know, hey, you didn't ask for
this smoke. Let's step up, let's step up to the right,
like we're here now, and uh, I look forward to
him having a much much better game too. Obviously, you know,
I picked Timberwolves in this series, and I still think
they got a chance. Man, So they got some work

(59:04):
to do ahead of them, but I think they still
got a great chance.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I think the thing is like when Ed gets it going,
not everybody else could relax and they stop making shots
with Ad struggling, Like damn.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
They died in on them all. They ain't given Ay,
he got loose in that second half.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
But for the most party, Jimmy Butler, Draymond them, all
them dudes, Bro, they sitting down, Yeah or GP the
second Yeah, yeah, he picking may Look, you know, he
got that extended pressure on him. He picking him up
full and hey, look like I always say, you want
to just try the word god down, like like, you know,
he's a special talent. We all know that, and we

(59:42):
can't give him nothing easy. That's what the Warriors are saying.
So we're gonna make everything tough. And he has no
and understanding. So I'm sure you know he don't watch
the tape, watch film, and he gonna get back game two.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Oho, he gonna be a different antlement. Oh yeah,