Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Caron Butler react to the Minnesota Timberwolves evening the series 1-1 with the Golden State Warriors, Stephen Curry isn’t rushing back on his return, & LeBron is still unsure of his future in the NBA and much more!
01:45 - Introduction
04:00 - Warriors v T-Wolves
16:49 - Steph won’t rush return
24:45 - Haliburton celebration
42:38 - Lebron still undecided on future
53:00 - Jayson Tatum shoulders blame
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's more than cable. I will live with anything Draymond get.
If Draymond takes ten threes, I will live with that.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I will.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm not I'm not overreacting to Draymond hitting one of
two threes.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I can't. I'm not kaming comming.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You know, he came in and played really well tonight,
and you're probably gonna see more of him. You might
see a little bit of moode because they got to
try to get production from somewhere GP the second he
had an okay game, but he didn't get rhythm.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I think the thing is what they did a great
job of is not letting anybody get rithm. And if
you see it every.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Early clang clank, clank, clank, clan, well, that's what I
want to happen.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Because Karan said, they're going back home, they're very familiar
with this building. They've been comfortable shooting in this building,
and so I'm my attention one on one.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Look, I'm not sending help with Jimmy. Yeah, y'all got it,
Hamlet Yeah, Like, what are they going to do on
the defensive end of the floor, Like we saw more
zone defense from the Warriors in the series.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Versus the Rockets. And yeah, Green had a tough time.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Because there was no real estate for him, so he
was living with contested threes and long twos. So now
I think that they have to muck up the game
more on the defensive end of the floor. And they
have one of the highest functioning brain speed guys with
IQ on that team on the defensive in the floor,
with Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler. So if they can
anchor it in on that end of the floor, maybe
(01:27):
they generate some points and create some conversion offense. But
I just don't see them scoring enough. You know, stuff
not be available.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Hey, hey, I listen.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Not only we don't see them scoring enough with them
not being available, listen to defensive pressure that the walls
put on the night.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mean to record a ten steel five blocks.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
They forced seventeen god damn turnovers, and that because they
were contesting everything and running all over the place. Correct
me if I'm wrong, and let me know if my
terminogy is right. Kuran, without step on the floor, there's
really no really not that much facing.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's not. Yeah, I'm gonna correct right.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
See, I promise you I could coach an NBA see
that now.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I just I just.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Noticed that the night every everything was so it seems
so cluttered and and and just just out of whack
and out of sword.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, because I'm not worried about I'm not worried about
anybody really hitting ungodly shots because see Steph can get
his own shot because if you try to run step
off the three hill side step or you hit the
ball on the floor and get to his float game.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So he's not like, that's not what buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
See, Buddy is not going to really put the ball
on the floor and try to get to the rim.
He'll try to, he'll pump up fake you, and he
still wants to shoot that three.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But with Steph in perpetual motion, you have to play attention.
You can't because now Dremond a they'll do. They'll put
you in the dribble, the dribble hand off and you
think Draymond's gonna hand the ball, you know, hand the
ball off.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And he'll turn and go and lay it up a dunkey.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So there's so much action going on when Steph is
in the that's what made him so tough. When they
had Steph and Clay and then you threw KD in
the mix. So now what do you do. You got
three guys that can shoot the light side of the building.
As Karan said, Draymond Gurin is a very high IQ guy.
They can run pin down, they can run flairs, they
can do anything they want to do. You're at the mercy.
(03:17):
You just hope they have them off night shooting. Now,
everybody ain't gonna have no off night shooting. And that's
why they were in the high sixties all three years
that KD was there. But when you put Steph into
the mix, he's still the best shooter in the game,
and he's very difficult to defend, and he takes so
much of your focus, so much of your attention, and
not guys getting back on layups.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So and you're getting easy, easy twos. This is Steph.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Curry isn't sure how long it would take for him
to recover from the grade and one left hamstring strain
because it's the first time he's ever had such an injury.
Calling the situation a gut punch, Steph said he has
to be careful and can't rush his comeback given the
tricky nature of hamstring injuries. This is new from all
that I'm hearing learning how quick you can get back.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
There's been some healing process. You can accelerate it more
than than it's telling you.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So it'll be one after week after a week, really
reevaluating every day to understand when it's safe to just
think about playing, let alone, how much I can push it.
Steph is out through at least Game four and will
be evaluated after that. Game five is eight days after
he suffered the injury. Then there's a three day break
between Game five and game six.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
If NETS said which Steph would have twelve total days
to recover.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's a two week recovery. It's a two week recovery.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I told you exactly where it was when it happened,
based on what I saw and said. I'm not saying
I'm a doctor, but you can tell. You can tell
the fact they're able to catch it early and not
able to tear it or have it pulled on you
as much as it did.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
He was able to control it. So normally with that
kind of Grade one injury.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Especially a little twitch like that were pulled real slightly,
it's always two weeks. That first week is going to
be so are that second week you get that dry
leveland you get that cupping, you do your cold hub
and whatever else you need to do outside of that.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
He'll be fine game here.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
He could even come back game four, but game five,
he definitely want to take a lot of.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Those medical terms go for everyday people like when you
when you do a diagnosis and like, okay, yeah, you'd
be back walking and functioning at a high level again.
But to perform in the playoffs at this intensity, I
just think that's a different climate.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh yeah, right back into what I expect to be hampered.
Mm hm. I agree.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But I also think the thing is that what's different
than when an athlete gets injured versus you know, normal people,
is that normal people have pet two to three times
a week.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Professional getting getting pete five times a week around round
the clock.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So they're having someone doing something with Steph around the clock.
He's getting stemmed, he's getting passive stretch, he's getting all ultrasound,
he's getting a laser, he's getting all those things that
normal people might get twice the three times a week.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
But they're not getting that extensive.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They're not getting a laser, they're not getting you know,
they get some of the things, but athletes.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
That's why they hear so quickly. First of all, they're
a little younger. And but Steph saying, look, I've never
had this injuries. And when I came back from those
other things, I was in my twenties. I was in
my prime. I'm not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Now. I'm thirty six, thirty seven years of age.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So it's probably going to take me a little longer
to overcome something like this, considering I don't have I
don't have a GPS, so I don't know what it's
like because I've never had this injury before, and it's late,
and it's late in his career, so things don't don't
bounce back.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Hey, when you were young, k, you might have something
one to two days. Hey man, I'm good to go.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Then all of a sudden that you started getting older,
three to four days, five to six days.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Now all of a sudden, it's ten to fifteen days.
You got some shit that hurt over me right now?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
One? Hey, hey, hey, what was that? What was that
to do?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And you know when you when you pull something, you
hurt something. Oh D M no, no, no, when they
put the you know you do it A K E
K G and put on it stem oh with the ice,
that's yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Feel it pulsing.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, he I'm telling you get that stem, he get
that that Dryneveland.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Get a man, He's gonna be good.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
He's gonna be guarantee if you want to, especially in
Karana when when it's time to come back. Game four,
game five, put some pressure. Put that uh that wrap
what you call it, not Day's bandage, what you call
the thing.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Some people they put Neil free. Some people are gonna do.
But here's the thing. Put that little pressure around the spot.
Probably gonna be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But because he runs so much, Joe, there you go.
I mean, his whole game is predicated that. That's why
you need that pressure. You need that pressure in that
area though. But that's why he needs to make sure
that things healthy because he runs more than anybody wise
in the NBA. So he's not a guy that can
just stand in the corner. That's not his game. His
game is predicated on movement, certain busts, bursts and sudden
(08:09):
stops and cuts. And you know when you got soft
tissue injury, man, they don't like all that starting to stopping.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And it ain't nothing to play with. I was watching
the body language of the whole Warriors bench.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I always look at the bench when I'm watching games,
and he didn't get up much on that bench. And
that was, you know, another sign too, because when guy's
not jumping up and down in the midst of runs,
like saying going to ten two runs or something like that,
like he was clapping, he was engaged, he was out
there mentally, but he wasn't moving on that sideline. And
(08:42):
that's one of those things like, oh yeah, he really
nursing that thing.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's really it's really so yeah, because when you have
a hammy injury, you ain't.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Trying to do a whole lot of movie.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You slow, you dragging you because they tell you, okay,
try to walk as normal as you possibly can. Man,
I'm dragging his leg. But that thing hurt trying to
walk in trying to walk in a normal emotion and
cry you ain't, Oh tell you, I don't know if
you have to spread that on your macrod. I'm sure
you have plenty NBA. Man, you know, walk normal. Man,
I'm walking like a like I'm a pirate man. I'm
(09:14):
I'm walking the home foot. I ain't getting the pook. Yeah,
I'm walking. I'm walk club like I got a club foot.
I ain't getting a toe, no dorm SUPLEXI Uh, it's tough.
It's a lot easier said than done. And the people like,
well you got to do this. People say that that
hasn't gone through that. So when you go through it,
you you know, you know what it's like, Hey, hey,
we counting on you. I don't know what fuff I
(09:37):
get back? What I get back, I get back when
I get back. You try to push through it, but
you know, I mean, and you try to do some
stuff at home, and you see how it feel.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean, it feel pretty good after you get all
that treatment.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
But after a bout five ten minutes when that hey,
all of a sudden, that blood in there and that
thing ain't warmed up.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Who I don't know. I don't know if I'm be
able to go this weekend. That's a different beast.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Tyrese Haliburton was warned over his game to celebrations. Halliburton
expected to be fine for him his dancing celebrations You
Big Boss That was dope Game two winner, but received
on a warning from the league office instead. Halle, I've
been waiting for that. I've been waiting for that, man.
It's just the right in the moment. It was the
right in the moment. Yeah, man, I've been waiting like that.
(10:28):
I'll take that fine gladly. Halliburton fully expected a fine
because the celebration is similar to the one he used
believed he had first brought to the league by Sam Cassell.
Sam Cassell was the first one I actually saw that
when he was in with Houston. Sam can long ago
have Joel such feelings from the NBA. Others have done it. Lebron, James,
Eddie Howse, Drew Randol, Fred Van Fleet more have been
(10:50):
fined for the league as described as obscene gesture.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And that's you know, it's not bad. It's not bad.
And listen all athletes that happened to be watching.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And I'm sure this is gonna repeat over and over
and over and probably go viral, which most of our
stuff does. If you play at the highest level NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, whatever,
it may be.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
The one thing they love to do. They love to
take what they think you value most. That's your money.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
How do we keep these people in the line that
we pay millions of dollars to we take their money.
You know why they want to take your money because
they think that's what they think, that's what you value most.
Enjoy yourself, continue to have fun, celebrate. He listen, this
is the entertainment business the best.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Your question when you're doing that gesture, what is it?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
When he's doing that, just yeah, what is that?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It means I got a horness.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You know that kids watching right what their kids watching?
We talk about basketball with kids to watch it. I
didn't have a problem with it personally, but.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Kid kids who watching nightcap right now?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
You talk about man, but you said he didn't get
he did not get fired. Okay, I want my money
because I got fired thousand for it.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah yeah, a lot of guys that gotten fired for that. Yeah, Okay,
I won't mind. I won't mind back. I won't be
waiting on my check in the mail.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I think because Hannish said he's expected to find and
said now we're not gonna give it to you.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
But don't do it again too. I want reparations. I
want my daddy records.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Look, I understand that that celebration because they were it
was I mean Halle's had I mean Look, he had
the game winner against Milwaukee. Remember he had the game
winning layup. Milwaukee had that big lead and they came
all the way back in. They had the game winning
lay up with like points six seconds to go.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And then.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Look, with Halle is aggressive, they hard to beat because
they're committee. They're not gonna have anybody that have thirty
or forty points. They're gonna have maybe one of two
guys in the twenties, and then they're gonna have a
bunch of teams. They're gonna normally have sixty seven guys
in double figures Karan, So you know you have two
maybe two guys with twenty to twenty three, and then
you have nineteen eighteen, seventeen, sixteen, two and fourteen, and.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Then you get an eight and to six. They do.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
That's how they and that's how they And Halley is
the head of the snake because he's looking to push
tempo every chance he gets. Either he'll take it out
of the net or they'll take it off the rim.
But they're pushing tempo and you've got to play like that.
You've got to get back because you celebrate like oh yeah,
you hold that three up there like that and they'll
laid it up on the other end and the coach
looking at you like, bro, you got to get back.
(13:33):
All they're doing is looking to push. And they got
young athletic guys that can get up and down, they
can defend. They look Nie Smith and nim Hard, they
got ci Ocam, they got guys that you know, you know,
try to funnel you to a Miles Turner. But their
thing is predicated on offense. They're predicated on offense, and
they could go on a run at the blink.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Of a Hasten space, or they can play in the
half court what you touched on and I think Holly
as really the elevated to a whole other level. You
use that as a few when everyone said that he
was over there or whatever. And you know, you play
for the respect of your peers and when people yeah,
that's what they think of you. That ain't no fan
because normally that your life to say, man, that's the fans.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
They don't know what they're talking about. Said that.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I don't think that was real or a hell of
goddamn the players voted.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I really think it's some I think they just put
the title of oh the players.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Voted because you be surprised, Kari.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know, you be surprised what players think of other players,
what we think of.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Somebody being good? Oh your we know, because like how
he made the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Good God, I mean, I'm sure y'all say the same
thing about man. How does this joke and make the
All Star Game?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But that's that's just the way it is, perception of
the person's reality. And some people think, Look, because Halle
is really not a scoring point guard.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We like scoring point guards.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Now, we like Steph and James harden say and Luca see,
we like point guard.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
To go get your forty fifty. That's what we like,
Not Karan.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
We don't like the old school magic Johnson, Jason Kidds,
John Stockton. We don't let no guy give you fifteen
and ten. Nah, give me thirty five and ten.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
How did y'all do the scouting thing in the NFL,
like per player or situation?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, what we did, Okay? The offensive line coach would
address the d line. So he said, okay, we say, okay,
here's Reggie. Reggie likes the bull, he likes the hunt. Well,
he'll start you up. He'll start you up and then
use your momentum the club. You here's a guy that
that's really good with his hands. Hey, he likes the posts.
He can turn you know, he can turn speed, he
can turn power to speed, he can bend the edges. Okay, now,
(15:48):
the tight end would address the linebackers. The running back
coach would addressed the inside linebackers, wide receivers. There are times, Hey,
this guy right here, we're gonna take advantage of him.
He likes the whole. This guy like here, he's nosy,
he's gonna he's gonna bite. We're gonna We're not gonna
do it early, but we're gonna do it late. Because
in the situations t Buck was was what a notorious
(16:09):
one a philosophy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
He gonna he gonna jump something.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
You got, you got more, You got more slams and
stumps than you got go routes. So I'm gonna take
much hand. If you work and you sometimes he gonna
get you. Sometimes he's gonna get him. But that's how
we did it. We looked at But there have been times, Karan,
that guys have made made the Pro Bowl that I
thought other guys were better. Well, you know, the fans
(16:34):
and and so forth and so on, because it's you know,
fans get a vote, the coaches, and the coaches get
a vote, and the players get a vote.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But there have been times that I'm like.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Mm hmmm, and especially when, especially when when when you
watch it on film and you see it in person,
what the hell are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, I don't know who. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't know somebody either this either you just had
an out of like cross, an out of body experience,
or the mother guy some trash that you was playing against.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But one of the two. Yeah, Halli Burn is one.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Of those guys that, like I was getting to the
point of, if you had to do a pregame edit
or a scout on him, he can take up the
whole pregame edit because you think about him in the
blitz coverage, he can make pretty much every pass out
of it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You think about him in the open side pick and roll, he.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Can sweep the defense, he can play against the drop coverage,
he can play in his own coverage. Uh, he can
get escape and reject. He can draw files. So you
got to go over all those boxes that you gotta
check coming off the pick and roll off a live
dribble and he got a pull up game. He got
a geezer, even though a different looking shot, he's gonna
make you come out that whole Kelvin Martin.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
He look like Kevin Martin and it.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Goes in and it's efficient, and he's a yeah, like
he wants the moments you see, big moment like you know,
going around, could have got fined that moment, you know
what I mean? So Wisconsin native, I salute him because
you know, I love I love all my Wisconsin Natives
and the brothers bes hooping at a high clipp and
he's just represented well.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He really is. He's talked Hallly what six five sixty six.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
He's a big guard is he's a he's a big
guard so he can see over coverage.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
He's not noo six one six two guards. He can
see over a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
And he don't let this pops me in the arena.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
He's putting on the show. And the thing is, you
know what it is. I think in the system that
they get up and down. I think the system that
Indiana implements is perfect for him because he wants to
get up and down.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
They play up and down style. It's kind of like magic.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Johnson Leam Magic could have been good in the half
course set because he's so he's six'. Nine we had
never seen anything like magic because normally six nine guys
they were centered in power.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Forward we had never seen a six nine. Guard so
he can see over the.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Defense but once they adopted showtime and they were Byruns
scott and you At Jamal, wilson you had a big.
Game james running the, court running the. Floor it was
it was. Over we had never seen anything like. It,
yeah so he could he could throw the ball the
length of the court and then he could have ay
he coming.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Down take that with you.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And so now and so now with the space that
these guys play, with guys that have speed and Are
unslfie like A Halliburton, mills BECAUSE i believe he's a
he's a he's a true the essence of a point.
GUARD a lot of these guys are point guards. Masquerading
they're actually two guards masquerading at a. Point Joint yard
is a two. GUARD i don't care what y'all. Saying
(19:40):
luke is a two guard shade of a too. Guard
they masquerading its. Points Jason kidd was a Point your,
point pure. Point john stopped The. Badger those were pure point.
Guards these guys, today The John, morans The Russell, westbrooks
those guys were. Twos masquerade now job more so Because
(20:01):
john's a little on the smaller.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Side he's not as tall as A Saint luca And.
Shade shae is bigger than people.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
THINK i don't know why people thought sha was like
sixty two sixty, three EXCEPT i thought.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
HE i thought he was sixty three. Bad he got.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Everything hold, on hold on He, karan don't surprised. Me
the other night we were talking about we were talking about The.
Nuggets he talking About god Damn joka Sixty he is legits,
Man i'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Boy why to his?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Footwork what the? Yeah he has no weakness in his offensive.
Game yogi has no weakness in his offensive. Game he
can get to the, mid he can step out of
shoot to, three he can put the ball on the.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Floor he got touched around the rim with either.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Hand his float game is impeccable, offensively he has no
weakness is a. Game AND i don't know how many,
guys and maybe What elijah want had the footwork like,
that and he was good around the.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Basket But Elija wan didn't have three.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Points, no, no be he really shot the three like
that was really shooting the three Until dirt came into THE.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Nba and so now you have these.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Stretches But Yo kic offensively from the three point line
all the way.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
In he got the.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Med, hey he can. Finish he can finish at the.
Rim he ain't a ball the Rem he can finish
at the. Rem but he got tremendous touch with either.
Hand he for, Me, KARAN i don't know what you,
Think karan for, Me, Look shade has earned THE.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Mvp yokic is the best player in THE. NBA i
WOULDN'T i wouldn't argue.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
That and and to your point about the big uh
you know guy shooting from the perimeter like Like dirt
did uh. De Marcus cousins is a guy that always
Gets we just talked about that the other.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
NIGHT i SAY i said that last. Night, comparison he
was that boy was a.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Problem he had a three year stretch where it wasn't
winning basketball because it was still like in. Transition and but,
MAN i never seen nobody be able to guard. Him,
no he couldn't possibly before before he had That achilles,
injury and then it towards.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Me they couldn't stop.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Boogiing, hey we was actually having a conversation and there
was a real Conversation Anthony davis Or Boogie. Cousins that
was a real. Conversation that was no play, play that was.
Legit and a lot of people, say give Me.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Boogie, yes, yeah you were.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Nice, hey kar you just said something you didn't want
to challenge when he said the best player in THE
nba Was.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Joker now do you agree with that or you do.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Have somebody else in mind when it comes to the
best player in THE nba right.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Now the best player in THE nba right now is
to you the ND p of the. League and who's
going to be THE nvp of the. League that sga.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You IF i gave you a draft right, NOW i, said,
OKAY i will give you one. Player you take. It
that that's a. DIFFERENCE i.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Give you one, player you get the draft one player
the start to sing with right, Now i'm taking back.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
You take, it okayet we respect.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That he he speaking Of, Listen, Karan, koran Work heat
And koran don't even know it's about to, happen you,
know he's in a position where he's a part Of
he's a part of the, organization, right so he doesn't
even know about the conversation and to.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Sit down behind the.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Scenes, yeah THAT i had with was Sposal Mickey irrison
and god damn Pat. Riley so he don't even know
the surprise that's, coming you know this season he's got
so For oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
YEAH i got. Something you, KNOW i sat. DOWN i
sat down With.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Patt i'm telling pat, Listen, patt in order for us
to go where we want to get to and to
get back to our winning, ways you got to loosen
the rains a little, bit, Baby you got to loosen
the rains a little. Bit So patty told, me, Listen
i'm gonna do WHAT i, can and we GOT i
got some surprises and some.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Moves i'm trying to make an off.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Season we're trying to Get yannis And John moran down
here In. Miami, NOW i know you can't say nothing
because it's Conducting melohis to the.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Team so you just listen to. Me it's Called.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Tampa, no that's, yeah he Can't, okay you know, what
let me, stop, stop let me, stot let go ahead
fin it's the.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Show my, Bad my, Bad my. Bad.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah but What, karan WHEN i WHEN i WHEN i
look At, Shay shay got it.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
All shay got a.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Bag he can shoot the, three that mid, range, bro that,
smatch the way he gets you going and just pull.
Back that's. Automatic that damn near free. Throw and it
doesn't matter if it's ten feet fifteen or. Eighteen he
got A he's. Perfected that'sh. Stoppable he can he can,
get he can get all the way to the cup
and he and the thing is now he's in that.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Thing he's in that stretch Like James.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Harden With James harden was getting to the free throw
line ten them twelve times a game plus because he
had most twenty thirty forty fifty point games this.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Season, hey you know, what WHEN i think about, it you,
Know koran and you know who joh remind me?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Of like you know What i'm talking, About John. Morett,
yeah you don't remind.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
ME i, MEAN i, mean hold on, Now i'm About
shade And Ja yeah who else you remind?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You? JOE i knew he wasn't say that because you.
Should you should have saw me in high.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
School we had the same moves like, identical our, movements our,
mannerisms our ability to stop and. Go you, know it's
unbelievable how much you.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Know you ain't don't worry About they got. Nothing you
ain't got no.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Footage he ain't got No, yeah well hey, listen hey
at mighty be seeing. HIGH i scored fifty six to.
NIGHT i, mean from my freshman and senior. YEAR i
was finished physy six twelve and. Ten look at look it,
up looking at.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
It with a serious face, though he BUT i don't.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
LIE i lie for you. Before that's the.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Thing you got to be serious because then if you
weren't serio where you were pathological.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Line so you got to have. Something, hey you gotta
have you got to have some discernment like, oh, man
might be might be telling me.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah every TIME i say something on, here, right people go, back,
Karan people go back and look at it and google
it or YouTube it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And say and it be right there and be right
there in your.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Face because some of the STUFF i, say some of
the STUFF i, say some of the STUFF i did
in the, past it's not believable because people Think i'd be,
Playing but then they go and do their homework and
they be, like, WELL i be.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Damned this is believe because it's not. True now it's.
TRUE i, mean think about. It think about some of
the great.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Players lebron didn't average fifty, six At man did average fifty,
six and in the day That luca you take some
of the Greatest kareban career R. K what people don't
Realize kareem was the greatest high school basketball player. Ever
kareem lost one game in high, school lost two games in.
College so let that thick in for a fourth eight
years for where he couldn't play his freshman year because
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freshman couldn't play back. Then But kareem's freshman team beat
the varsity team that won the national. Championship so for
for for seven year, Period kareem lost three games in
college in the high. School so he's the greatest high
schoo and college basketball player.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Ever fifty. Six who told you that his? Number the
numbers say.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
THAT i, mean what will my numbers? Say i'm better than?
Him So i'm trying to figure out where you Got
You were you.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Gator Rye player of The year In Florida High were
You Gatorade player of The?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Year BUT i, PLAYED i played, back then get.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
It they get. Rate but we had check. Soda, okay so.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Gatorade we have question where you fail to a check
Soda player of the.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Year you, had we had check. Soda we couldn't afford.
Gatorade ill, ta, no, Lie i'll ask. You were you
checked soda player of the. Year, YES i was checked.
Soda we're looking for that right. Now google. It google
has them because he. Checked, HEY i dunked on YOU
d when he was At Miami High you THE.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Ud he was scared of me out there on the. Court.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Man they couldn't do no With i'm telling you you
did tell you asked you THE I everd finished sixth,
finty sixth twelve and tend in high.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
School lebron.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Topic lebron still isn't ready to make a decision about
HIS nba, future one week after The lakers. LOST i
haven't had a conversation with the family yet as far
as me going forward or whatever the case may.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Be but we'll see what.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Happens lebron has a fifty two point six million dollar
player option for next, Season, carian do you think he'll
pick it? Up does he opt? Out take less money
to try to get more. Help what do you what
do you see lebron?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Doing, YEAH i think that he's gonna do what whatever's
best for the organization BECAUSE i think that they have
a great collaboration over, there and they did go Get,
luca AND i think that he's in constant communication just
just from an observation, standpoint While pelinka and everyone's on
the same. Page he's pretty much having his, way you,
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know with you, Know bronny being over there in the
roster that he's been wanting to build out for the
ever since he's been In Los. Angeles AND i think
once you Get luca, committed then you can go down
that pack in order and you, know check the other
boxes and if it is some space for flexibility and
you might need him knopped out to take less.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Or whatever for the better good of the, team than
you do.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
That BUT i think the ball is in his, Court
like you, know Lebron he's earned the right to do
exactly what the hell he want to, do AND i
think they're gonna work with him in every capacity to
make sure everything work and they don't check those.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Boxes brian averaged twenty four and a half points a,
game eight point two assist some point eight rebounds per.
Game in his twenty FIRST nba, SEASON i Think Vince
carter had averaged the most. POINTS i think he averaged
like seven in his twenty first. Season about with the
addition Of, LUCAS i can See lebron playing another two.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
YEARS i can see him actually playing with two of
his sons on that.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
ROSTER i wouldn't be, surprised you know.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
WHAT i and a lot of people, like oh, DAMN
i totally forgot About, bryce you, know but that makes
the most sense to me in the world that he
would wait to you, know he only got one year
probably he's gonna do at the university where he's going
to arizonas. Something, yeah so he knew a year, there
he jumped ship and now he on The laker or
or in the league and playing against his dad and.
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BROTHER i, mean some more history to be made this following,
season and then obviously they have a realistic shot at
competing for a, title being one of those top six
or seven teams again going into the next. Season so
and then you can ride into the sunset however you
feel like. It But lebron is definitely capable of playing
at least the way he's going now at least another
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two to three years at a high, level BECAUSE i
just DON'T i don't know how significant the knee injury,
is but he's never had injuries and he takes well
good care of. Himself so and plus here like he's
just he's ahead of everyone from a mental, standpoint AND.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I, THINK i think you, know them taking him off the,
ball Letting lucap be the primary ball, handler Letting ar
be the primary ball, handler so that's less Where tearedy's
body so he can dive and. Cut, Uh he's he's
added a three point shot to his. Bag so now
he's about to be top five in THE nba three point.
Shots and that's how you stay a long time because
you have a particular.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Time let's think about.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
It lebron is gone like two to three different eras
of basketball did and he's. Evolved the greatest treat the,
Survival the greatest key to survival is, adaptability his ability
to adapt to the, type because this is What lebron,
was a get to the basket. Guy he still, can
but not nearly as efficient or not nearly as much
as he once. Did if you notice Now lebron shoot the,
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three he still can play with his back to the.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Post he's still a turnover that right shoulder and let
the thing. Go he's still.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Top but as break, points, yes.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And he's still and he led him fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Scoring, yeah that's. Wild and you're and you're twenty, two that's, Crazy,
no twenty. Two, yeah because he's a twenty he's a twenty,
twenty twenty one Time All. Star, yeah twenty one. Time
so you're you're you're. Right but the question Is karan
here the question and building this team Out Lebron, luca they're,
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similar But luca wants lob. Threats lebron wants facing in
three point. Shooters so how do you build a Team
because it seemed Like Mark williams would have been a
great BECAUSE i knew they were in.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Trouble they really didn't have a big. Cause now you're
only Playing Jackson hayes, ten, ten fifteen.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Minutes now you go ruer And lebron once playing the,
four the others playing the. Five you got NO remp,
protection you got no help side, defense and Really luca
first dribble that now be. Goe they gonna get By
luca either the first or the second. Dribble ar isn't much.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Better lebron is a year twenty, two so we can't
expect him to sit the. Chair so they REALLY i Mean.
Vanderbilt when you Got.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Vanderbilt he's a good, defender but you're really playing four
and five on the offensive. End Phinney, smith he could
have some, offense but he's so, inconsistent so up and.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Down so how Does rob go about building.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
This team to make everybody happy and best put this
team in position to compete port.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
CHAMPIONSHIP i think that's the reason why he left craigs
dinner spot with all those of paper that in that,
folder you know WHAT i, Mean like he's looking at
every roster spot and looking at all the guys that's
possibly available in the market and someone that you, can you,
know add on that could be an asset to that. Organization,
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uh you're going to have to have a lob, threat you,
know For. Luca and people will say, that you, know
a lob threat is going to take away to real.
Estate it actually, not because you're gonna put a lot
of pressure on the rim and that's going to put
the weak side guy always tagging and trying to take
away the dunk and that's going to open up the
two on one on the back side of. Court so
that's exactly what they. Need and then you talked about perimeter.
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DEFENSE i thought Hodch moore did a great, job but
it's always room for. Improvement and you, know and the
challenge For luca going into you, know the, summer which
it seems to be very, potent is just you, know
working on his, conditioning working on being the best possible
version of itself and trying to move the needle on
the defensive end of the floor so you're not responsible
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for so many advantage that you AND i think he's
going to take that, challenge you, know he you, know
people here to, whispers you, know as as as coaches
as as a former. Player, uh it's true in every
joke when people tell tell you, about you, know some
of the things you can do better on the defensive
end and the, floor or you're not sharing the, ball
you turn over, prone whatever the case may. Be you
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go to the back to the lab and when you're
working on your craft with your player development people in the,
pods you're, like all, RIGHT i got to sharpen the
tools a little a little differently going into the, Season
SO i think he's just going to be a lot.
Better and, uh you, KNOW i think the team is
going to be a force to be reckoned. With i'm
looking forward to seeing them next.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Year BECAUSE i look at it seemed like every year
in the, Playoffs, luca we're.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Down it seems like at each.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Age game game, one he's, fresh and in game two
he starts to he starts to move older. Though it's
like he's aging by, it like He's Benjamin, button but
he's going the other. Way Benjamin button came down to a.
Baby it seemed like he was a baby and going
to an old ass. Man because it seems like after
game one is like game, two game three that, like,
damn game, four he could barely. WALK i thought he
was gonna break it bad.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
There and we'll say this too, though and a lot of,
people you, know it's you, know no lack of empathy for,
anyone but it's like when trades. HAPPENED i don't know
y'all ever been traded in the middle of the season
or Stinks it, takes especially in the way that he,
was but, yeah it takes a toll on you like
no other and then the responsibility to immediately be at
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the forefront of. Everything you're the headline in the story
across the, association and all of a, sudden you got
to perform at this optimum level with you, know arguably
the greatest player of this. Generation and then all of a,
sudden it's just like the expectations is.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
DIFFERENT i you, KNOW i.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
DON'T i don't take that lightly BECAUSE i see it
from a different lens being in the locker room and you,
know being an advocate for the. Players SO i do
have empathy for him and in that space, too BECAUSE
i was, traded you.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Know, before AND i had to go through that.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Shit so it's it isn't, easy and you, know players,
robots and there's a reason why is you, know mental
spaces for you, know players to kind of you, know
get through decompressive talk about.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
It, YEAH i totally get, it because it's a. Situation
it's one thing to get, traded IF i request the,
trading it's something entirely different WHEN i Think i'm gonna
spend my entire career with one. Organization he's a, Guy
he's a dirt. Guy as long as he wants to
stay In, dallas he stays In. Dallas BUT i didn't want.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
To get, traded and you traded me like two months
before my twenty sixth, BIRTHDAY a five time first Team
ALL nba.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
SELECTION i just led a team to THE Nba. Finals
i've been a this many Time All star and you're
telling me what it's a?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Shot, yeah it's a, shot.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Definitely Jason tatum showed it the blame for his struggles
of the first two games versus the. NICK i take
full ownership of the Way i've played in this, series
AND i can't show code.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
ANYTHING i need to be. BETTER i expect to be
a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Better guys work really hard on their game and their
craft and prepared to be in those moments to hit open,
shots and it just hasn't happened the last two. Games
but you can't lose your confidence, Either, tatum jumper has abandoned.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Him thus.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Far he's made just twelve or forty two shots that's
twenty nine. Percent is frequently settled for three parts where
he's shooting five or twenty twenty five. Percent he has
taken only nine free throws in two, games and he
has eight. Turnovers see the free. Throws telling me he's
not being. Aggressive he's telling me he's. Settling, yeah, okay, hey.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
You live with.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
That.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Hey he always, said you, know one of his, idols
someone of you admired and looked up. To i'm assuming
he would love The models game after. Him That's, kobe
That's Jellybean. Bryant so the first thing For tatum when
he got to go back and, think, well that starts up.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Here this.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Cirtain this is something That kobe got that you can't be,
taught it can be. Coached it's already in. You that,
MENTALITY i, mean mamba, mentality whatever you want to call.
It that ain't nothing but a, Dog that's all it.
Is they just changed the name when they came To.
Kobe that's already in. You so for, one your approach
to the game of basketball in this series it has to.
Change you got to go in there with that same.
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Mentality he suddenly, stop stop stop putting up the, Three
stop putting up the, threes put the ball on the,
floor call for, io wait for the. PICK i, mean
do whatever you got to do to get yourself in,
rhythm to get the game. Going you supposed to be
the face of THE nba or one of those type of.
Guys but you're not playing like that.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Guy Oh, joe let me ask you a. Question why
didn't you stop eating McDonald's because you had? Success because
you had success doing what you? Do so why should he?
Shops why should he stop shooting? Threes he's had, Success
he's won a, championship he's he's about to be a
four time first Team ALL nba, selection, right he's won
two gold, Medals so kill me why he.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Should stop While i'm not gonna tell you this.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
ONE i had a lot of tools in the tool, bag,
Right so if at any point the McDonald wasn't working for,
ME i had a PLAN, b AND i had something
ELSE i can go to just in.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Case you know, WHAT i can't do this no more, so,
Boy i'm gonna reverse you. Why i'm gonna tell you
why it should have. Changed i'm gonna tell.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
You why because right now you're, down oh, Too and
what you do on the pad two games ain't motherfucker my.
Bad i'm sorry for the. Curson what you do the
last two games ain't. Working so What i'm gonna, Do
i'm gonna go on a. TOOLBOX i.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Know COULD i SEE i seen him do.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
It let me ask your. Question your game was predicated on? Quickness, yeah,
yeah yeah? Yeah did you play? Physical did you play through? Contact?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
No that WAS.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Could if you saw WHAT i did The Ray, LEWIS
i could where everybody saw.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
That that grand stage still on your, BACK i ran
it To.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
RAY i THINK i kan so.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
If, you if, so tell, me if this, You, koran
you are who you?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Are you are All you're An All, Star you're An
ALL nba, Selection you've Been you're, champion you won gold,
medals and you're in a shooting slump like, this and
it's come at the, worst at the most inopportune of,
times because it came when you're at. Home you down
owe to you and you're about to go on the
road for the next two and there's a chance when
you come back To boston you're gonna come back to
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clean out your. Locker if this, you you're in this,
situation what's your mental? Approach what are? You what Is
Karan butler saying To Karan.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Butler i'm gonna leave an effort where there is no,
regrets like the effort THAT i can live, with effort
THAT i ain't tossing to turn and sleep trying to
sleep With AND i think, that you, know one of
the things BEFORE i get like dive into the mental
aspect of, It i'm thinking about what is his health like?
(40:41):
Concern you, know because he did take the. Hit is
he nicked like? From why is he? Settling but you, know,
obviously when you're, available when you you, know you take
whatever you know for your elements and you get out
there on that, platform you, know all bets is. Off
SO i think that he just got have to play.
AGGRESSIVE i think he know who he. Is he don't
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need no one to remind, him and he just has
to be, confident you, know in the, moment and you,
know take on The Jason tatum. Mentality you, know you
you your own, man you, know and go out there
and do what you gotta.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Do and you're the leader of that ball.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Club AND i think that you, Know brown is gonna
step up in a major way. Too you, know he's
the guy that usually answers the bill and takes a
lot of pressure Off tatum in the in those.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Moments AND i think they're gonna do it by.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Committee they got a lot of guys that's battle tested
holiday as. WELL i think you're going to see a
better version of, him you, know the defensive end of the,
floor because the struggles is that they sent in a
lot of bodies At.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Brunson he's a guy.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
And he's been the guy on that floor for this,
series and, somehow some, way one of the other faces
of the, league which Is Jason tatum and And, brown
they're gonna have to step up and, say, hey there's
three guys on this, floor you know WHAT i. Mean
AND i Think cat is going to have something a
little say in this series, too once they go back
To New. York but it's really going to be on
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the shoulders Of brown And, tatum you, know to take
them and get them back in the.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Series, hey, HEY i GOT i got a. Question, Right
so you think about it that The celtics is down oh? Too?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Right, yeah The celtics in both games had a twenty
uh The knicks had a twenty point. Deficit they you,
know they were down down by twenty four games and
came back and.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Won. Right, Yeah so The celtics haven't been playing.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Well, hell The knicks haven'tue played well yet, Either but
just so happened towards the end of the. Game jalen
bruston and collected you as a. Group The knicks found him,
up found a way to.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Win, mister playing exactly how they want to, play, Though.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Ojo this is the way they, plays exactly the way
you look At so you think that The knicks supost
to have like one hundred and twenty hundred and twenty five, points.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
That's not, them that's not.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
They they want to mook the game. Up they want
the game to be. Close, yeah clutch, situation the last five.
Minutes just have a, chance that's.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
All. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yeah but THEN i have a question, Though so think about,
this the fact that they haven't played.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Well The sexon haven't play.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Well, right they had a two they had a twenty
point leading bowl game and still lost towards. It now
you're going to the, garden, Right, Yeah so let's say
what happened if this time The knicks do play better
basketball as opposed To, WELL i told you The celtics
was gonna go home.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
ANYWAY i told you the problems THAT i HAVE i
really meet.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Me of all the teams that, play and there's some
teams that don't have very good, records The celtics are
the teams THAT i least like to watch play because
all they do is chunk up.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Threes they chunk up.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Three now they got that twenty point lead by running,
plays getting to the, rim, finishing doing a lot of good.
Stuff and then all of a, sudden it's, like you know,
what this is not who we. Are We i'd rather.
Lose i'd rather lose our, weight jacket up. Threes thann
win by doing by running plays and get into the.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Basket.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Uh the first, Half Jason tatum had two. Points the second,
Half Jaylen brown had three. Points Jason tatum And Jaylen
brown are combined two of nineteen shooting in the fourth.
Quarter The knicks have come back from twenty down twice
outscored The celtics by twenty two points in the final
quarter thus. Far, see that's that's your, problem your two
bad your two big. Guns the guys that you're counting
(44:10):
on are misfiring in the most important quarter of it,
all that's the fourth. Quarter and you see what. Happened
Jason tatum got himself and got himself in a, pickle
didn't know what to, do got up in the air
like oh what? What oh, boom And Michael bridges right.
There Michel bridges played. Sensation he had zero points through
the first three quarters and then he pops out with fourteen.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Fourteen but the biggest.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Difference in this ball, Game karan Was. Cat cat shot
one three. Pointer he got his butt down on the,
block he got it on the, move and he Punished Al.
Horford that's That's. Cat See Carl anthony town shoot. Three
cat punishes. People they're two different. Guys they're the same,
person but they're two different. Guys he's so talented, man
(44:53):
he but see remember last year when people Said, cat
they ain't got nobody on the, gaffer can't guar you
likely can't guard.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
You they don't have anybody can guard. You why are you?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Settling they're copplauding, you they're bringing you, cookie they're bringing
you gifts for shooting those. Threes get down on that,
block your party. Show don't settle and he. Settled what
you think game? Three you think your celfiic is getting
this thing figured? Out or did they keep jacket up
threes not in the? GUARD i think it all depends
on how The knicks were.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Success you, know do you go back and you know
still have that same urgency and not pretend like you're
playing with house money and you know word success well
and still have that same dog and that that, tenacity
because you have to understand that you're gonna Receive boston's,
best like they gotta win this coming with the, everything
(45:48):
and they gonna throw everything at you in the first
coort for first half, basically and if you could.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Sustain, it so be a game of.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Runs and if you can sustain, it if you keep
that energy electric in that jump in that, arena then
you have a chance in the second half to you,
know make a game out of. It and if it
come down to a possession ball, game you know you
got mister, clutch mister fourth quarter on your. Side and
he's been the best player in this series this. Far
he can get you over the. Hump BUT i really
(46:14):
do think That brown And tatum and Also holiday is
going to have a huge say so in this game
Because holliday has always been the guy that you can
just put on the best offensive player and he can
wipe them out and wash them out and then him
And white take turns.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
One But brunson has been a little.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Different he beats you up, offensively he know how To
he's so crafty he's so tough to, officiate and you,
know now he has a, grit a good feel of you,
know just controlling this.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Series it's gonna be interesting to see what is going
to be like going In game.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Three the problem that The celsics have had is that
they had a twenty point, lead and The knicks don't
feel that there's no lead safe that The celtics, Have
so it doesn't matter if The celtics jump out to, ten,
ten of even. Twenty The knicks, says, hey we've been
here the first two, games that was in their. BUILDING
i know we can feed off the energy in our
building and chase them down if.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Necessary but what happens if they can't build that twenty point?
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Lead see the Longest see the problem is that with
The celtics is that most of the time this season
they were blowing teams, Out so you, know those guys getting.
Rest now all of a, sudden The knicks got them
out there in deep, water and they've had them out.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
There for an extend period of. Time, see everybody can
swim to the.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Shore if you jump out the middle, eight if you
jump out the boat in the middle of the, lake
you can swim the shore because you're not. Tired but
let me, see after the fifth, time after the sixth,
TIME i drive you back to the, middle can you
make it back the?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Shore so that side The.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Knicks The knicks, say you know, what let's get them
in the fourth quarter again and clutch. Situation the last
five minutes of the ball. Game it's a nipping tuck ball.
Game it's a basket of to one way or. Another
let's see if they still still feel like those shots
gonna go, in because, boy they. Would, hey there was
some why open threes in the first two.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Games in the last five minutes of the game looked
like me shooting and me and spikes animals out there
being spikes out, HEY J B J t looked like
BEING spikee saddle friends.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Drug that's a good one all over the top of the. Back.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Boy shout out To Paul pierce making good on his.
Bed he walked From ensino To Central city today in a?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Rode did he? Really? NO i ain't, no.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Probably drove he probably drove all but the bolot did
they get they he dropped him off And harry did
catch him.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Walking, LISTEN i Love, paul that's my. Dog but you
know how far And sino. Is, hell, YEAH i know
how far it. Is ain't listen if anything for content.
Purposes he started off walking drive a little, bit show another,
show another spot Where i'm At drive a little, bit
show another spot where they.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Take Paul pierce two days to walk from the seat
on the.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
City you know how fun at? It, YES i, KNOW
i see from. City hell, yeah Walk, Cam we're gonna
Get we're gonna get you out of. Here on disc,
once what was your reaction when you found out The
mavericks had Trade Luca dancic to The lakers For Anthony.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Davis, oh, MAN i. WAS i didn't think it was.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
REAL i was actually, uh we was on a flight
and we just got our WiFi back on the plane
AND i.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Saw it AND i, said oh ship Like sham.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
SAID i was, like oh they, tripping he got hacked
or something that ship.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Broke that it was it was.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
OFFICIAL i actually reached out to a couple of folks and,
uh The mavericks organization just to confirm.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It still ain't hurt back from, Him so, yeah, man it's.
Real it's.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Crazy wow Anything Kuran, man thanks for stopping, by.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
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thank you for giving some sum of your. Time, man stop,
back stop back by any time you.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
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Speaker 1 (50:08):
Bro, congratulations good. Luck, hey you're next in line to
get with them head coaching. Jobs, Bro thank, you, BROTHER
i appreciate.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
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you slut dug the.
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Speaker 2 (50:25):
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Speaker 4 (50:46):
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i got my ball right here, too. Nine that's WHAT i.
Do and my ball from who gave you that? Ball
you're sure who gave you that?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Ball and? You, HEY i got. It lebron gave me
this fifty CAME.
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I swear To god it's the fifty came. Off this is, It.
Kuran this is the real. Ball this is the real.
BALL i promise. YOU i WOULDN'T i wouldn't like to
tell you you gotta get.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
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Speaker 3 (51:24):
Here.
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by any, time. Yo the volume
He's more than cable. I will live with anything Draymond get.
If Draymond takes ten threes, I will live with that.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I will.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm not I'm not overreacting to Draymond hitting one of
two threes.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I can't. I'm not kaming comming.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You know, he came in and played really well tonight,
and you're probably gonna see more of him. You might
see a little bit of moode because they got to
try to get production from somewhere GP the second he
had an okay game, but he didn't get rhythm.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I think the thing is what they did a great
job of is not letting anybody get rithm. And if
you see it every.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Early clang clank, clank, clank, clan, well, that's what I
want to happen.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Because Karan said, they're going back home, they're very familiar
with this building. They've been comfortable shooting in this building,
and so I'm my attention one on one.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Look, I'm not sending help with Jimmy. Yeah, y'all got it,
Hamlet Yeah, Like, what are they going to do on
the defensive end of the floor, Like we saw more
zone defense from the Warriors in the series.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Versus the Rockets. And yeah, Green had a tough time.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Because there was no real estate for him, so he
was living with contested threes and long twos. So now
I think that they have to muck up the game
more on the defensive end of the floor. And they
have one of the highest functioning brain speed guys with
IQ on that team on the defensive in the floor,
with Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler. So if they can
anchor it in on that end of the floor, maybe
(01:27):
they generate some points and create some conversion offense. But
I just don't see them scoring enough. You know, stuff
not be available.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Hey, hey, I listen.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Not only we don't see them scoring enough with them
not being available, listen to defensive pressure that the walls
put on the night.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mean to record a ten steel five blocks.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
They forced seventeen god damn turnovers, and that because they
were contesting everything and running all over the place. Correct
me if I'm wrong, and let me know if my
terminogy is right. Kuran, without step on the floor, there's
really no really not that much facing.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's not. Yeah, I'm gonna correct right.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
See, I promise you I could coach an NBA see
that now.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I just I just.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Noticed that the night every everything was so it seems
so cluttered and and and just just out of whack
and out of sword.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, because I'm not worried about I'm not worried about
anybody really hitting ungodly shots because see Steph can get
his own shot because if you try to run step
off the three hill side step or you hit the
ball on the floor and get to his float game.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So he's not like, that's not what buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
See, Buddy is not going to really put the ball
on the floor and try to get to the rim.
He'll try to, he'll pump up fake you, and he
still wants to shoot that three.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But with Steph in perpetual motion, you have to play attention.
You can't because now Dremond a they'll do. They'll put
you in the dribble, the dribble hand off and you
think Draymond's gonna hand the ball, you know, hand the
ball off.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And he'll turn and go and lay it up a dunkey.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So there's so much action going on when Steph is
in the that's what made him so tough. When they
had Steph and Clay and then you threw KD in
the mix. So now what do you do. You got
three guys that can shoot the light side of the building.
As Karan said, Draymond Gurin is a very high IQ guy.
They can run pin down, they can run flairs, they
can do anything they want to do. You're at the mercy.
(03:17):
You just hope they have them off night shooting. Now,
everybody ain't gonna have no off night shooting. And that's
why they were in the high sixties all three years
that KD was there. But when you put Steph into
the mix, he's still the best shooter in the game,
and he's very difficult to defend, and he takes so
much of your focus, so much of your attention, and
not guys getting back on layups.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So and you're getting easy, easy twos. This is Steph.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Curry isn't sure how long it would take for him
to recover from the grade and one left hamstring strain
because it's the first time he's ever had such an injury.
Calling the situation a gut punch, Steph said he has
to be careful and can't rush his comeback given the
tricky nature of hamstring injuries. This is new from all
that I'm hearing learning how quick you can get back.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
There's been some healing process. You can accelerate it more
than than it's telling you.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So it'll be one after week after a week, really
reevaluating every day to understand when it's safe to just
think about playing, let alone, how much I can push it.
Steph is out through at least Game four and will
be evaluated after that. Game five is eight days after
he suffered the injury. Then there's a three day break
between Game five and game six.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
If NETS said which Steph would have twelve total days
to recover.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's a two week recovery. It's a two week recovery.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I told you exactly where it was when it happened,
based on what I saw and said. I'm not saying
I'm a doctor, but you can tell. You can tell
the fact they're able to catch it early and not
able to tear it or have it pulled on you
as much as it did.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
He was able to control it. So normally with that
kind of Grade one injury.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Especially a little twitch like that were pulled real slightly,
it's always two weeks. That first week is going to
be so are that second week you get that dry
leveland you get that cupping, you do your cold hub
and whatever else you need to do outside of that.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
He'll be fine game here.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
He could even come back game four, but game five,
he definitely want to take a lot of.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Those medical terms go for everyday people like when you
when you do a diagnosis and like, okay, yeah, you'd
be back walking and functioning at a high level again.
But to perform in the playoffs at this intensity, I
just think that's a different climate.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh yeah, right back into what I expect to be hampered.
Mm hm. I agree.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But I also think the thing is that what's different
than when an athlete gets injured versus you know, normal people,
is that normal people have pet two to three times
a week.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Professional getting getting pete five times a week around round
the clock.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So they're having someone doing something with Steph around the clock.
He's getting stemmed, he's getting passive stretch, he's getting all ultrasound,
he's getting a laser, he's getting all those things that
normal people might get twice the three times a week.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
But they're not getting that extensive.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They're not getting a laser, they're not getting you know,
they get some of the things, but athletes.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
That's why they hear so quickly. First of all, they're
a little younger. And but Steph saying, look, I've never
had this injuries. And when I came back from those
other things, I was in my twenties. I was in
my prime. I'm not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Now. I'm thirty six, thirty seven years of age.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So it's probably going to take me a little longer
to overcome something like this, considering I don't have I
don't have a GPS, so I don't know what it's
like because I've never had this injury before, and it's late,
and it's late in his career, so things don't don't
bounce back.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Hey, when you were young, k, you might have something
one to two days. Hey man, I'm good to go.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Then all of a sudden that you started getting older,
three to four days, five to six days.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Now all of a sudden, it's ten to fifteen days.
You got some shit that hurt over me right now?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
One? Hey, hey, hey, what was that? What was that
to do?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And you know when you when you pull something, you
hurt something. Oh D M no, no, no, when they
put the you know you do it A K E
K G and put on it stem oh with the ice,
that's yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Feel it pulsing.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, he I'm telling you get that stem, he get
that that Dryneveland.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Get a man, He's gonna be good.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
He's gonna be guarantee if you want to, especially in
Karana when when it's time to come back. Game four,
game five, put some pressure. Put that uh that wrap
what you call it, not Day's bandage, what you call
the thing.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Some people they put Neil free. Some people are gonna do.
But here's the thing. Put that little pressure around the spot.
Probably gonna be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But because he runs so much, Joe, there you go.
I mean, his whole game is predicated that. That's why
you need that pressure. You need that pressure in that
area though. But that's why he needs to make sure
that things healthy because he runs more than anybody wise
in the NBA. So he's not a guy that can
just stand in the corner. That's not his game. His
game is predicated on movement, certain busts, bursts and sudden
(08:09):
stops and cuts. And you know when you got soft
tissue injury, man, they don't like all that starting to stopping.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And it ain't nothing to play with. I was watching
the body language of the whole Warriors bench.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I always look at the bench when I'm watching games,
and he didn't get up much on that bench. And
that was, you know, another sign too, because when guy's
not jumping up and down in the midst of runs,
like saying going to ten two runs or something like that,
like he was clapping, he was engaged, he was out
there mentally, but he wasn't moving on that sideline. And
(08:42):
that's one of those things like, oh yeah, he really
nursing that thing.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's really it's really so yeah, because when you have
a hammy injury, you ain't.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Trying to do a whole lot of movie.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You slow, you dragging you because they tell you, okay,
try to walk as normal as you possibly can. Man,
I'm dragging his leg. But that thing hurt trying to
walk in trying to walk in a normal emotion and
cry you ain't, Oh tell you, I don't know if
you have to spread that on your macrod. I'm sure
you have plenty NBA. Man, you know, walk normal. Man,
I'm walking like a like I'm a pirate man. I'm
(09:14):
I'm walking the home foot. I ain't getting the pook. Yeah,
I'm walking. I'm walk club like I got a club foot.
I ain't getting a toe, no dorm SUPLEXI Uh, it's tough.
It's a lot easier said than done. And the people like,
well you got to do this. People say that that
hasn't gone through that. So when you go through it,
you you know, you know what it's like, Hey, hey,
we counting on you. I don't know what fuff I
(09:37):
get back? What I get back, I get back when
I get back. You try to push through it, but
you know, I mean, and you try to do some
stuff at home, and you see how it feel.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean, it feel pretty good after you get all
that treatment.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
But after a bout five ten minutes when that hey,
all of a sudden, that blood in there and that
thing ain't warmed up.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Who I don't know. I don't know if I'm be
able to go this weekend. That's a different beast.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Tyrese Haliburton was warned over his game to celebrations. Halliburton
expected to be fine for him his dancing celebrations You
Big Boss That was dope Game two winner, but received
on a warning from the league office instead. Halle, I've
been waiting for that. I've been waiting for that, man.
It's just the right in the moment. It was the
right in the moment. Yeah, man, I've been waiting like that.
(10:28):
I'll take that fine gladly. Halliburton fully expected a fine
because the celebration is similar to the one he used
believed he had first brought to the league by Sam Cassell.
Sam Cassell was the first one I actually saw that
when he was in with Houston. Sam can long ago
have Joel such feelings from the NBA. Others have done it. Lebron, James,
Eddie Howse, Drew Randol, Fred Van Fleet more have been
(10:50):
fined for the league as described as obscene gesture.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And that's you know, it's not bad. It's not bad.
And listen all athletes that happened to be watching.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And I'm sure this is gonna repeat over and over
and over and probably go viral, which most of our
stuff does. If you play at the highest level NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, whatever,
it may be.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
The one thing they love to do. They love to
take what they think you value most. That's your money.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
How do we keep these people in the line that
we pay millions of dollars to we take their money.
You know why they want to take your money because
they think that's what they think, that's what you value most.
Enjoy yourself, continue to have fun, celebrate. He listen, this
is the entertainment business the best.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Your question when you're doing that gesture, what is it?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
When he's doing that, just yeah, what is that?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It means I got a horness.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You know that kids watching right what their kids watching?
We talk about basketball with kids to watch it. I
didn't have a problem with it personally, but.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Kid kids who watching nightcap right now?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
You talk about man, but you said he didn't get
he did not get fired. Okay, I want my money
because I got fired thousand for it.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah yeah, a lot of guys that gotten fired for that. Yeah, Okay,
I won't mind. I won't mind back. I won't be
waiting on my check in the mail.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I think because Hannish said he's expected to find and
said now we're not gonna give it to you.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
But don't do it again too. I want reparations. I
want my daddy records.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Look, I understand that that celebration because they were it
was I mean Halle's had I mean Look, he had
the game winner against Milwaukee. Remember he had the game
winning layup. Milwaukee had that big lead and they came
all the way back in. They had the game winning
lay up with like points six seconds to go.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And then.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Look, with Halle is aggressive, they hard to beat because
they're committee. They're not gonna have anybody that have thirty
or forty points. They're gonna have maybe one of two
guys in the twenties, and then they're gonna have a
bunch of teams. They're gonna normally have sixty seven guys
in double figures Karan, So you know you have two
maybe two guys with twenty to twenty three, and then
you have nineteen eighteen, seventeen, sixteen, two and fourteen, and.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Then you get an eight and to six. They do.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
That's how they and that's how they And Halley is
the head of the snake because he's looking to push
tempo every chance he gets. Either he'll take it out
of the net or they'll take it off the rim.
But they're pushing tempo and you've got to play like that.
You've got to get back because you celebrate like oh yeah,
you hold that three up there like that and they'll
laid it up on the other end and the coach
looking at you like, bro, you got to get back.
(13:33):
All they're doing is looking to push. And they got
young athletic guys that can get up and down, they
can defend. They look Nie Smith and nim Hard, they
got ci Ocam, they got guys that you know, you know,
try to funnel you to a Miles Turner. But their
thing is predicated on offense. They're predicated on offense, and
they could go on a run at the blink.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Of a Hasten space, or they can play in the
half court what you touched on and I think Holly
as really the elevated to a whole other level. You
use that as a few when everyone said that he
was over there or whatever. And you know, you play
for the respect of your peers and when people yeah,
that's what they think of you. That ain't no fan
because normally that your life to say, man, that's the fans.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
They don't know what they're talking about. Said that.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I don't think that was real or a hell of
goddamn the players voted.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I really think it's some I think they just put
the title of oh the players.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Voted because you be surprised, Kari.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know, you be surprised what players think of other players,
what we think of.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Somebody being good? Oh your we know, because like how
he made the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Good God, I mean, I'm sure y'all say the same
thing about man. How does this joke and make the
All Star Game?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But that's that's just the way it is, perception of
the person's reality. And some people think, Look, because Halle
is really not a scoring point guard.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We like scoring point guards.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Now, we like Steph and James harden say and Luca see,
we like point guard.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
To go get your forty fifty. That's what we like,
Not Karan.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
We don't like the old school magic Johnson, Jason Kidds,
John Stockton. We don't let no guy give you fifteen
and ten. Nah, give me thirty five and ten.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
How did y'all do the scouting thing in the NFL,
like per player or situation?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, what we did, Okay? The offensive line coach would
address the d line. So he said, okay, we say, okay,
here's Reggie. Reggie likes the bull, he likes the hunt. Well,
he'll start you up. He'll start you up and then
use your momentum the club. You here's a guy that
that's really good with his hands. Hey, he likes the posts.
He can turn you know, he can turn speed, he
can turn power to speed, he can bend the edges. Okay, now,
(15:48):
the tight end would address the linebackers. The running back
coach would addressed the inside linebackers, wide receivers. There are times, Hey,
this guy right here, we're gonna take advantage of him.
He likes the whole. This guy like here, he's nosy,
he's gonna he's gonna bite. We're gonna We're not gonna
do it early, but we're gonna do it late. Because
in the situations t Buck was was what a notorious
(16:09):
one a philosophy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
He gonna he gonna jump something.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
You got, you got more, You got more slams and
stumps than you got go routes. So I'm gonna take
much hand. If you work and you sometimes he gonna
get you. Sometimes he's gonna get him. But that's how
we did it. We looked at But there have been times, Karan,
that guys have made made the Pro Bowl that I
thought other guys were better. Well, you know, the fans
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and and so forth and so on, because it's you know,
fans get a vote, the coaches, and the coaches get
a vote, and the players get a vote.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But there have been times that I'm like.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Mm hmmm, and especially when, especially when when when you
watch it on film and you see it in person,
what the hell are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, I don't know who. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't know somebody either this either you just had
an out of like cross, an out of body experience,
or the mother guy some trash that you was playing against.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But one of the two. Yeah, Halli Burn is one.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Of those guys that, like I was getting to the
point of, if you had to do a pregame edit
or a scout on him, he can take up the
whole pregame edit because you think about him in the
blitz coverage, he can make pretty much every pass out
of it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You think about him in the open side pick and roll, he.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Can sweep the defense, he can play against the drop coverage,
he can play in his own coverage. Uh, he can
get escape and reject. He can draw files. So you
got to go over all those boxes that you gotta
check coming off the pick and roll off a live
dribble and he got a pull up game. He got
a geezer, even though a different looking shot, he's gonna
make you come out that whole Kelvin Martin.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
He look like Kevin Martin and it.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Goes in and it's efficient, and he's a yeah, like
he wants the moments you see, big moment like you know,
going around, could have got fined that moment, you know
what I mean? So Wisconsin native, I salute him because
you know, I love I love all my Wisconsin Natives
and the brothers bes hooping at a high clipp and
he's just represented well.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He really is. He's talked Hallly what six five sixty six.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
He's a big guard is he's a he's a big
guard so he can see over coverage.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
He's not noo six one six two guards. He can
see over a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
And he don't let this pops me in the arena.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
He's putting on the show. And the thing is, you
know what it is. I think in the system that
they get up and down. I think the system that
Indiana implements is perfect for him because he wants to
get up and down.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
They play up and down style. It's kind of like magic.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Johnson Leam Magic could have been good in the half
course set because he's so he's six'. Nine we had
never seen anything like magic because normally six nine guys
they were centered in power.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Forward we had never seen a six nine. Guard so
he can see over the.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Defense but once they adopted showtime and they were Byruns
scott and you At Jamal, wilson you had a big.
Game james running the, court running the. Floor it was
it was. Over we had never seen anything like. It,
yeah so he could he could throw the ball the
length of the court and then he could have ay
he coming.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Down take that with you.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And so now and so now with the space that
these guys play, with guys that have speed and Are
unslfie like A Halliburton, mills BECAUSE i believe he's a
he's a he's a true the essence of a point.
GUARD a lot of these guys are point guards. Masquerading
they're actually two guards masquerading at a. Point Joint yard
is a two. GUARD i don't care what y'all. Saying
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luke is a two guard shade of a too. Guard
they masquerading its. Points Jason kidd was a Point your,
point pure. Point john stopped The. Badger those were pure point.
Guards these guys, today The John, morans The Russell, westbrooks
those guys were. Twos masquerade now job more so Because
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john's a little on the smaller.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Side he's not as tall as A Saint luca And.
Shade shae is bigger than people.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
THINK i don't know why people thought sha was like
sixty two sixty, three EXCEPT i thought.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
HE i thought he was sixty three. Bad he got.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Everything hold, on hold on He, karan don't surprised. Me
the other night we were talking about we were talking about The.
Nuggets he talking About god Damn joka Sixty he is legits,
Man i'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Boy why to his?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Footwork what the? Yeah he has no weakness in his offensive.
Game yogi has no weakness in his offensive. Game he
can get to the, mid he can step out of
shoot to, three he can put the ball on the.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Floor he got touched around the rim with either.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Hand his float game is impeccable, offensively he has no
weakness is a. Game AND i don't know how many,
guys and maybe What elijah want had the footwork like,
that and he was good around the.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Basket But Elija wan didn't have three.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Points, no, no be he really shot the three like
that was really shooting the three Until dirt came into THE.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Nba and so now you have these.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Stretches But Yo kic offensively from the three point line
all the way.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
In he got the.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Med, hey he can. Finish he can finish at the.
Rim he ain't a ball the Rem he can finish
at the. Rem but he got tremendous touch with either.
Hand he for, Me, KARAN i don't know what you,
Think karan for, Me, Look shade has earned THE.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Mvp yokic is the best player in THE. NBA i
WOULDN'T i wouldn't argue.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
That and and to your point about the big uh
you know guy shooting from the perimeter like Like dirt
did uh. De Marcus cousins is a guy that always
Gets we just talked about that the other.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
NIGHT i SAY i said that last. Night, comparison he
was that boy was a.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Problem he had a three year stretch where it wasn't
winning basketball because it was still like in. Transition and but,
MAN i never seen nobody be able to guard. Him,
no he couldn't possibly before before he had That achilles,
injury and then it towards.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Me they couldn't stop.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Boogiing, hey we was actually having a conversation and there
was a real Conversation Anthony davis Or Boogie. Cousins that
was a real. Conversation that was no play, play that was.
Legit and a lot of people, say give Me.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Boogie, yes, yeah you were.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Nice, hey kar you just said something you didn't want
to challenge when he said the best player in THE
nba Was.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Joker now do you agree with that or you do.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Have somebody else in mind when it comes to the
best player in THE nba right.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Now the best player in THE nba right now is
to you the ND p of the. League and who's
going to be THE nvp of the. League that sga.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You IF i gave you a draft right, NOW i, said,
OKAY i will give you one. Player you take. It
that that's a. DIFFERENCE i.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Give you one, player you get the draft one player
the start to sing with right, Now i'm taking back.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
You take, it okayet we respect.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That he he speaking Of, Listen, Karan, koran Work heat
And koran don't even know it's about to, happen you,
know he's in a position where he's a part Of
he's a part of the, organization, right so he doesn't
even know about the conversation and to.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Sit down behind the.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Scenes, yeah THAT i had with was Sposal Mickey irrison
and god damn Pat. Riley so he don't even know
the surprise that's, coming you know this season he's got
so For oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
YEAH i got. Something you, KNOW i sat. DOWN i
sat down With.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Patt i'm telling pat, Listen, patt in order for us
to go where we want to get to and to
get back to our winning, ways you got to loosen
the rains a little, bit, Baby you got to loosen
the rains a little. Bit So patty told, me, Listen
i'm gonna do WHAT i, can and we GOT i
got some surprises and some.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Moves i'm trying to make an off.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Season we're trying to Get yannis And John moran down
here In. Miami, NOW i know you can't say nothing
because it's Conducting melohis to the.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Team so you just listen to. Me it's Called.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Tampa, no that's, yeah he Can't, okay you know, what
let me, stop, stop let me, stot let go ahead
fin it's the.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Show my, Bad my, Bad my. Bad.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah but What, karan WHEN i WHEN i WHEN i
look At, Shay shay got it.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
All shay got a.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Bag he can shoot the, three that mid, range, bro that,
smatch the way he gets you going and just pull.
Back that's. Automatic that damn near free. Throw and it
doesn't matter if it's ten feet fifteen or. Eighteen he
got A he's. Perfected that'sh. Stoppable he can he can,
get he can get all the way to the cup
and he and the thing is now he's in that.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Thing he's in that stretch Like James.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Harden With James harden was getting to the free throw
line ten them twelve times a game plus because he
had most twenty thirty forty fifty point games this.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Season, hey you know, what WHEN i think about, it you,
Know koran and you know who joh remind me?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Of like you know What i'm talking, About John. Morett,
yeah you don't remind.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
ME i, MEAN i, mean hold on, Now i'm About
shade And Ja yeah who else you remind?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You? JOE i knew he wasn't say that because you.
Should you should have saw me in high.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
School we had the same moves like, identical our, movements our,
mannerisms our ability to stop and. Go you, know it's
unbelievable how much you.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Know you ain't don't worry About they got. Nothing you
ain't got no.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Footage he ain't got No, yeah well hey, listen hey
at mighty be seeing. HIGH i scored fifty six to.
NIGHT i, mean from my freshman and senior. YEAR i
was finished physy six twelve and. Ten look at look it,
up looking at.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
It with a serious face, though he BUT i don't.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
LIE i lie for you. Before that's the.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Thing you got to be serious because then if you
weren't serio where you were pathological.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Line so you got to have. Something, hey you gotta
have you got to have some discernment like, oh, man
might be might be telling me.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah every TIME i say something on, here, right people go, back,
Karan people go back and look at it and google
it or YouTube it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And say and it be right there and be right
there in your.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Face because some of the STUFF i, say some of
the STUFF i, say some of the STUFF i did
in the, past it's not believable because people Think i'd be,
Playing but then they go and do their homework and
they be, like, WELL i be.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Damned this is believe because it's not. True now it's.
TRUE i, mean think about. It think about some of
the great.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Players lebron didn't average fifty, six At man did average fifty,
six and in the day That luca you take some
of the Greatest kareban career R. K what people don't
Realize kareem was the greatest high school basketball player. Ever
kareem lost one game in high, school lost two games in.
College so let that thick in for a fourth eight
years for where he couldn't play his freshman year because
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freshman couldn't play back. Then But kareem's freshman team beat
the varsity team that won the national. Championship so for
for for seven year, Period kareem lost three games in
college in the high. School so he's the greatest high
schoo and college basketball player.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Ever fifty. Six who told you that his? Number the
numbers say.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
THAT i, mean what will my numbers? Say i'm better than?
Him So i'm trying to figure out where you Got
You were you.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Gator Rye player of The year In Florida High were
You Gatorade player of The?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Year BUT i, PLAYED i played, back then get.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
It they get. Rate but we had check. Soda, okay so.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Gatorade we have question where you fail to a check
Soda player of the.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Year you, had we had check. Soda we couldn't afford.
Gatorade ill, ta, no, Lie i'll ask. You were you
checked soda player of the. Year, YES i was checked.
Soda we're looking for that right. Now google. It google
has them because he. Checked, HEY i dunked on YOU
d when he was At Miami High you THE.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Ud he was scared of me out there on the. Court.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Man they couldn't do no With i'm telling you you
did tell you asked you THE I everd finished sixth,
finty sixth twelve and tend in high.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
School lebron.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Topic lebron still isn't ready to make a decision about
HIS nba, future one week after The lakers. LOST i
haven't had a conversation with the family yet as far
as me going forward or whatever the case may.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Be but we'll see what.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Happens lebron has a fifty two point six million dollar
player option for next, Season, carian do you think he'll
pick it? Up does he opt? Out take less money
to try to get more. Help what do you what
do you see lebron?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Doing, YEAH i think that he's gonna do what whatever's
best for the organization BECAUSE i think that they have
a great collaboration over, there and they did go Get,
luca AND i think that he's in constant communication just
just from an observation, standpoint While pelinka and everyone's on
the same. Page he's pretty much having his, way you,
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know with you, Know bronny being over there in the
roster that he's been wanting to build out for the
ever since he's been In Los. Angeles AND i think
once you Get luca, committed then you can go down
that pack in order and you, know check the other
boxes and if it is some space for flexibility and
you might need him knopped out to take less.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Or whatever for the better good of the, team than
you do.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
That BUT i think the ball is in his, Court
like you, know Lebron he's earned the right to do
exactly what the hell he want to, do AND i
think they're gonna work with him in every capacity to
make sure everything work and they don't check those.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Boxes brian averaged twenty four and a half points a,
game eight point two assist some point eight rebounds per.
Game in his twenty FIRST nba, SEASON i Think Vince
carter had averaged the most. POINTS i think he averaged
like seven in his twenty first. Season about with the
addition Of, LUCAS i can See lebron playing another two.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
YEARS i can see him actually playing with two of
his sons on that.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
ROSTER i wouldn't be, surprised you know.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
WHAT i and a lot of people, like oh, DAMN
i totally forgot About, bryce you, know but that makes
the most sense to me in the world that he
would wait to you, know he only got one year
probably he's gonna do at the university where he's going
to arizonas. Something, yeah so he knew a year, there
he jumped ship and now he on The laker or
or in the league and playing against his dad and.
(30:08):
BROTHER i, mean some more history to be made this following,
season and then obviously they have a realistic shot at
competing for a, title being one of those top six
or seven teams again going into the next. Season so
and then you can ride into the sunset however you
feel like. It But lebron is definitely capable of playing
at least the way he's going now at least another
(30:28):
two to three years at a high, level BECAUSE i
just DON'T i don't know how significant the knee injury,
is but he's never had injuries and he takes well
good care of. Himself so and plus here like he's
just he's ahead of everyone from a mental, standpoint AND.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I, THINK i think you, know them taking him off the,
ball Letting lucap be the primary ball, handler Letting ar
be the primary ball, handler so that's less Where tearedy's
body so he can dive and. Cut, Uh he's he's
added a three point shot to his. Bag so now
he's about to be top five in THE nba three point.
Shots and that's how you stay a long time because
you have a particular.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Time let's think about.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
It lebron is gone like two to three different eras
of basketball did and he's. Evolved the greatest treat the,
Survival the greatest key to survival is, adaptability his ability
to adapt to the, type because this is What lebron,
was a get to the basket. Guy he still, can
but not nearly as efficient or not nearly as much
as he once. Did if you notice Now lebron shoot the,
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three he still can play with his back to the.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Post he's still a turnover that right shoulder and let
the thing. Go he's still.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Top but as break, points, yes.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And he's still and he led him fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Scoring, yeah that's. Wild and you're and you're twenty, two that's, Crazy,
no twenty. Two, yeah because he's a twenty he's a twenty,
twenty twenty one Time All. Star, yeah twenty one. Time
so you're you're you're. Right but the question Is karan
here the question and building this team Out Lebron, luca they're,
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similar But luca wants lob. Threats lebron wants facing in
three point. Shooters so how do you build a Team
because it seemed Like Mark williams would have been a
great BECAUSE i knew they were in.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Trouble they really didn't have a big. Cause now you're
only Playing Jackson hayes, ten, ten fifteen.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Minutes now you go ruer And lebron once playing the,
four the others playing the. Five you got NO remp,
protection you got no help side, defense and Really luca
first dribble that now be. Goe they gonna get By
luca either the first or the second. Dribble ar isn't much.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Better lebron is a year twenty, two so we can't
expect him to sit the. Chair so they REALLY i Mean.
Vanderbilt when you Got.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Vanderbilt he's a good, defender but you're really playing four
and five on the offensive. End Phinney, smith he could
have some, offense but he's so, inconsistent so up and.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Down so how Does rob go about building.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
This team to make everybody happy and best put this
team in position to compete port.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
CHAMPIONSHIP i think that's the reason why he left craigs
dinner spot with all those of paper that in that,
folder you know WHAT i, Mean like he's looking at
every roster spot and looking at all the guys that's
possibly available in the market and someone that you, can you,
know add on that could be an asset to that. Organization,
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uh you're going to have to have a lob, threat you,
know For. Luca and people will say, that you, know
a lob threat is going to take away to real.
Estate it actually, not because you're gonna put a lot
of pressure on the rim and that's going to put
the weak side guy always tagging and trying to take
away the dunk and that's going to open up the
two on one on the back side of. Court so
that's exactly what they. Need and then you talked about perimeter.
(33:37):
DEFENSE i thought Hodch moore did a great, job but
it's always room for. Improvement and you, know and the
challenge For luca going into you, know the, summer which
it seems to be very, potent is just you, know
working on his, conditioning working on being the best possible
version of itself and trying to move the needle on
the defensive end of the floor so you're not responsible
(33:58):
for so many advantage that you AND i think he's
going to take that, challenge you, know he you, know
people here to, whispers you, know as as as coaches
as as a former. Player, uh it's true in every
joke when people tell tell you, about you, know some
of the things you can do better on the defensive
end and the, floor or you're not sharing the, ball
you turn over, prone whatever the case may. Be you
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go to the back to the lab and when you're
working on your craft with your player development people in the,
pods you're, like all, RIGHT i got to sharpen the
tools a little a little differently going into the, Season
SO i think he's just going to be a lot.
Better and, uh you, KNOW i think the team is
going to be a force to be reckoned. With i'm
looking forward to seeing them next.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Year BECAUSE i look at it seemed like every year
in the, Playoffs, luca we're.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Down it seems like at each.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Age game game, one he's, fresh and in game two
he starts to he starts to move older. Though it's
like he's aging by, it like He's Benjamin, button but
he's going the other. Way Benjamin button came down to a.
Baby it seemed like he was a baby and going
to an old ass. Man because it seems like after
game one is like game, two game three that, like,
damn game, four he could barely. WALK i thought he
was gonna break it bad.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
There and we'll say this too, though and a lot of,
people you, know it's you, know no lack of empathy for,
anyone but it's like when trades. HAPPENED i don't know
y'all ever been traded in the middle of the season
or Stinks it, takes especially in the way that he,
was but, yeah it takes a toll on you like
no other and then the responsibility to immediately be at
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the forefront of. Everything you're the headline in the story
across the, association and all of a, sudden you got
to perform at this optimum level with you, know arguably
the greatest player of this. Generation and then all of a,
sudden it's just like the expectations is.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
DIFFERENT i you, KNOW i.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
DON'T i don't take that lightly BECAUSE i see it
from a different lens being in the locker room and you,
know being an advocate for the. Players SO i do
have empathy for him and in that space, too BECAUSE
i was, traded you.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Know, before AND i had to go through that.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Shit so it's it isn't, easy and you, know players,
robots and there's a reason why is you, know mental
spaces for you, know players to kind of you, know
get through decompressive talk about.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
It, YEAH i totally get, it because it's a. Situation
it's one thing to get, traded IF i request the,
trading it's something entirely different WHEN i Think i'm gonna
spend my entire career with one. Organization he's a, Guy
he's a dirt. Guy as long as he wants to
stay In, dallas he stays In. Dallas BUT i didn't want.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
To get, traded and you traded me like two months
before my twenty sixth, BIRTHDAY a five time first Team
ALL nba.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
SELECTION i just led a team to THE Nba. Finals
i've been a this many Time All star and you're
telling me what it's a?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Shot, yeah it's a, shot.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Definitely Jason tatum showed it the blame for his struggles
of the first two games versus the. NICK i take
full ownership of the Way i've played in this, series
AND i can't show code.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
ANYTHING i need to be. BETTER i expect to be
a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Better guys work really hard on their game and their
craft and prepared to be in those moments to hit open,
shots and it just hasn't happened the last two. Games
but you can't lose your confidence, Either, tatum jumper has abandoned.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Him thus.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Far he's made just twelve or forty two shots that's
twenty nine. Percent is frequently settled for three parts where
he's shooting five or twenty twenty five. Percent he has
taken only nine free throws in two, games and he
has eight. Turnovers see the free. Throws telling me he's
not being. Aggressive he's telling me he's. Settling, yeah, okay, hey.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
You live with.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
That.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Hey he always, said you, know one of his, idols
someone of you admired and looked up. To i'm assuming
he would love The models game after. Him That's, kobe
That's Jellybean. Bryant so the first thing For tatum when
he got to go back and, think, well that starts up.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Here this.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Cirtain this is something That kobe got that you can't be,
taught it can be. Coached it's already in. You that,
MENTALITY i, mean mamba, mentality whatever you want to call.
It that ain't nothing but a, Dog that's all it.
Is they just changed the name when they came To.
Kobe that's already in. You so for, one your approach
to the game of basketball in this series it has to.
Change you got to go in there with that same.
(38:16):
Mentality he suddenly, stop stop stop putting up the, Three
stop putting up the, threes put the ball on the,
floor call for, io wait for the. PICK i, mean
do whatever you got to do to get yourself in,
rhythm to get the game. Going you supposed to be
the face of THE nba or one of those type of.
Guys but you're not playing like that.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Guy Oh, joe let me ask you a. Question why
didn't you stop eating McDonald's because you had? Success because
you had success doing what you? Do so why should he?
Shops why should he stop shooting? Threes he's had, Success
he's won a, championship he's he's about to be a
four time first Team ALL nba, selection, right he's won
two gold, Medals so kill me why he.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Should stop While i'm not gonna tell you this.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
ONE i had a lot of tools in the tool, bag,
Right so if at any point the McDonald wasn't working for,
ME i had a PLAN, b AND i had something
ELSE i can go to just in.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Case you know, WHAT i can't do this no more, so,
Boy i'm gonna reverse you. Why i'm gonna tell you
why it should have. Changed i'm gonna tell.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
You why because right now you're, down oh, Too and
what you do on the pad two games ain't motherfucker my.
Bad i'm sorry for the. Curson what you do the
last two games ain't. Working so What i'm gonna, Do
i'm gonna go on a. TOOLBOX i.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Know COULD i SEE i seen him do.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
It let me ask your. Question your game was predicated on? Quickness, yeah,
yeah yeah? Yeah did you play? Physical did you play through? Contact?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
No that WAS.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Could if you saw WHAT i did The Ray, LEWIS
i could where everybody saw.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
That that grand stage still on your, BACK i ran
it To.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
RAY i THINK i kan so.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
If, you if, so tell, me if this, You, koran
you are who you?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Are you are All you're An All, Star you're An
ALL nba, Selection you've Been you're, champion you won gold,
medals and you're in a shooting slump like, this and
it's come at the, worst at the most inopportune of,
times because it came when you're at. Home you down
owe to you and you're about to go on the
road for the next two and there's a chance when
you come back To boston you're gonna come back to
(40:13):
clean out your. Locker if this, you you're in this,
situation what's your mental? Approach what are? You what Is
Karan butler saying To Karan.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Butler i'm gonna leave an effort where there is no,
regrets like the effort THAT i can live, with effort
THAT i ain't tossing to turn and sleep trying to
sleep With AND i think, that you, know one of
the things BEFORE i get like dive into the mental
aspect of, It i'm thinking about what is his health like?
(40:41):
Concern you, know because he did take the. Hit is
he nicked like? From why is he? Settling but you, know,
obviously when you're, available when you you, know you take
whatever you know for your elements and you get out
there on that, platform you, know all bets is. Off
SO i think that he just got have to play.
AGGRESSIVE i think he know who he. Is he don't
(41:02):
need no one to remind, him and he just has
to be, confident you, know in the, moment and you,
know take on The Jason tatum. Mentality you, know you
you your own, man you, know and go out there
and do what you gotta.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Do and you're the leader of that ball.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Club AND i think that you, Know brown is gonna
step up in a major way. Too you, know he's
the guy that usually answers the bill and takes a
lot of pressure Off tatum in the in those.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Moments AND i think they're gonna do it by.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Committee they got a lot of guys that's battle tested
holiday as. WELL i think you're going to see a
better version of, him you, know the defensive end of the,
floor because the struggles is that they sent in a
lot of bodies At.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Brunson he's a guy.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
And he's been the guy on that floor for this,
series and, somehow some, way one of the other faces
of the, league which Is Jason tatum and And, brown
they're gonna have to step up and, say, hey there's
three guys on this, floor you know WHAT i. Mean
AND i Think cat is going to have something a
little say in this series, too once they go back
To New. York but it's really going to be on
(42:04):
the shoulders Of brown And, tatum you, know to take
them and get them back in the.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Series, hey, HEY i GOT i got a. Question, Right
so you think about it that The celtics is down oh? Too?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Right, yeah The celtics in both games had a twenty
uh The knicks had a twenty point. Deficit they you,
know they were down down by twenty four games and
came back and.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Won. Right, Yeah so The celtics haven't been playing.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Well, hell The knicks haven'tue played well yet, Either but
just so happened towards the end of the. Game jalen
bruston and collected you as a. Group The knicks found him,
up found a way to.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Win, mister playing exactly how they want to, play, Though.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Ojo this is the way they, plays exactly the way
you look At so you think that The knicks supost
to have like one hundred and twenty hundred and twenty five, points.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
That's not, them that's not.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
They they want to mook the game. Up they want
the game to be. Close, yeah clutch, situation the last five.
Minutes just have a, chance that's.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
All. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yeah but THEN i have a question, Though so think about,
this the fact that they haven't played.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Well The sexon haven't play.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Well, right they had a two they had a twenty
point leading bowl game and still lost towards. It now
you're going to the, garden, Right, Yeah so let's say
what happened if this time The knicks do play better
basketball as opposed To, WELL i told you The celtics
was gonna go home.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
ANYWAY i told you the problems THAT i HAVE i
really meet.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Me of all the teams that, play and there's some
teams that don't have very good, records The celtics are
the teams THAT i least like to watch play because
all they do is chunk up.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Threes they chunk up.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Three now they got that twenty point lead by running,
plays getting to the, rim, finishing doing a lot of good.
Stuff and then all of a, sudden it's, like you know,
what this is not who we. Are We i'd rather.
Lose i'd rather lose our, weight jacket up. Threes thann
win by doing by running plays and get into the.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Basket.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Uh the first, Half Jason tatum had two. Points the second,
Half Jaylen brown had three. Points Jason tatum And Jaylen
brown are combined two of nineteen shooting in the fourth.
Quarter The knicks have come back from twenty down twice
outscored The celtics by twenty two points in the final
quarter thus. Far, see that's that's your, problem your two
bad your two big. Guns the guys that you're counting
(44:10):
on are misfiring in the most important quarter of it,
all that's the fourth. Quarter and you see what. Happened
Jason tatum got himself and got himself in a, pickle
didn't know what to, do got up in the air
like oh what? What oh, boom And Michael bridges right.
There Michel bridges played. Sensation he had zero points through
the first three quarters and then he pops out with fourteen.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Fourteen but the biggest.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Difference in this ball, Game karan Was. Cat cat shot
one three. Pointer he got his butt down on the,
block he got it on the, move and he Punished Al.
Horford that's That's. Cat See Carl anthony town shoot. Three
cat punishes. People they're two different. Guys they're the same,
person but they're two different. Guys he's so talented, man
(44:53):
he but see remember last year when people Said, cat
they ain't got nobody on the, gaffer can't guar you
likely can't guard.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
You they don't have anybody can guard. You why are you?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Settling they're copplauding, you they're bringing you, cookie they're bringing
you gifts for shooting those. Threes get down on that,
block your party. Show don't settle and he. Settled what
you think game? Three you think your celfiic is getting
this thing figured? Out or did they keep jacket up
threes not in the? GUARD i think it all depends
on how The knicks were.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Success you, know do you go back and you know
still have that same urgency and not pretend like you're
playing with house money and you know word success well
and still have that same dog and that that, tenacity
because you have to understand that you're gonna Receive boston's,
best like they gotta win this coming with the, everything
(45:48):
and they gonna throw everything at you in the first
coort for first half, basically and if you could.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Sustain, it so be a game of.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Runs and if you can sustain, it if you keep
that energy electric in that jump in that, arena then
you have a chance in the second half to you,
know make a game out of. It and if it
come down to a possession ball, game you know you
got mister, clutch mister fourth quarter on your. Side and
he's been the best player in this series this. Far
he can get you over the. Hump BUT i really
(46:14):
do think That brown And tatum and Also holiday is
going to have a huge say so in this game
Because holliday has always been the guy that you can
just put on the best offensive player and he can
wipe them out and wash them out and then him
And white take turns.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
One But brunson has been a little.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Different he beats you up, offensively he know how To
he's so crafty he's so tough to, officiate and you,
know now he has a, grit a good feel of you,
know just controlling this.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Series it's gonna be interesting to see what is going
to be like going In game.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Three the problem that The celsics have had is that
they had a twenty point, lead and The knicks don't
feel that there's no lead safe that The celtics, Have
so it doesn't matter if The celtics jump out to, ten,
ten of even. Twenty The knicks, says, hey we've been
here the first two, games that was in their. BUILDING
i know we can feed off the energy in our
building and chase them down if.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Necessary but what happens if they can't build that twenty point?
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Lead see the Longest see the problem is that with
The celtics is that most of the time this season
they were blowing teams, Out so you, know those guys getting.
Rest now all of a, sudden The knicks got them
out there in deep, water and they've had them out.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
There for an extend period of. Time, see everybody can
swim to the.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Shore if you jump out the middle, eight if you
jump out the boat in the middle of the, lake
you can swim the shore because you're not. Tired but
let me, see after the fifth, time after the sixth,
TIME i drive you back to the, middle can you
make it back the?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Shore so that side The.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Knicks The knicks, say you know, what let's get them
in the fourth quarter again and clutch. Situation the last
five minutes of the ball. Game it's a nipping tuck ball.
Game it's a basket of to one way or. Another
let's see if they still still feel like those shots
gonna go, in because, boy they. Would, hey there was
some why open threes in the first two.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Games in the last five minutes of the game looked
like me shooting and me and spikes animals out there
being spikes out, HEY J B J t looked like
BEING spikee saddle friends.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Drug that's a good one all over the top of the. Back.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Boy shout out To Paul pierce making good on his.
Bed he walked From ensino To Central city today in a?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Rode did he? Really? NO i ain't, no.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Probably drove he probably drove all but the bolot did
they get they he dropped him off And harry did
catch him.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Walking, LISTEN i Love, paul that's my. Dog but you
know how far And sino. Is, hell, YEAH i know
how far it. Is ain't listen if anything for content.
Purposes he started off walking drive a little, bit show another,
show another spot Where i'm At drive a little, bit
show another spot where they.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Take Paul pierce two days to walk from the seat
on the.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
City you know how fun at? It, YES i, KNOW
i see from. City hell, yeah Walk, Cam we're gonna
Get we're gonna get you out of. Here on disc,
once what was your reaction when you found out The
mavericks had Trade Luca dancic to The lakers For Anthony.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Davis, oh, MAN i. WAS i didn't think it was.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
REAL i was actually, uh we was on a flight
and we just got our WiFi back on the plane
AND i.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Saw it AND i, said oh ship Like sham.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
SAID i was, like oh they, tripping he got hacked
or something that ship.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Broke that it was it was.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
OFFICIAL i actually reached out to a couple of folks and,
uh The mavericks organization just to confirm.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It still ain't hurt back from, Him so, yeah, man it's.
Real it's.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Crazy wow Anything Kuran, man thanks for stopping, by.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Bro we really appreciate. It we know your bus. Tonight
thank you for giving some sum of your. Time, man stop,
back stop back by any time you.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Like.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Bro, congratulations good. Luck, hey you're next in line to
get with them head coaching. Jobs, Bro thank, you, BROTHER
i appreciate.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
It, Hey, bray bring me bring me with you, now
you slut dug the.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Lord you stay away from the lower staying the. Coach
it didn't. Be i'm about to go check that ship.
Too see if you haven't?
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Fit, hey and you too of? Me are you you in?
Mind i'm. Mihamy, hey let's get it one on one.
Tomorrow set your ass. Up, HEY i get, okay but
put some money on. It what you want to? Do?
Sho you? KNOW i got? It what area you AND
i come to? You what? Parking are you a ball
here In Southwest? Ranches i'm break around the corner And davy,
boy what you trying to? Do try to do? Whatever nothing?
Speaker 4 (50:46):
Here trying to do? Nothing BUT i got. You SEE
i got my ball right here, too. Nine that's WHAT i.
Do and my ball from who gave you that? Ball
you're sure who gave you that?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Ball and? You, HEY i got. It lebron gave me
this fifty CAME.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
I swear To god it's the fifty came. Off this is, It.
Kuran this is the real. Ball this is the real.
BALL i promise. YOU i WOULDN'T i wouldn't like to
tell you you gotta get.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Here. Man, bad thanks, man get on out of.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
Here.
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Bad thank, you MAT i appreciate. You. Bad start back
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