Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and artist Samba react to the New York Knicks fire Tom Thibodeau, Jaycee Horn sounding off about nerds talking about the NFL, Draymond Green comments about reaching the finals, and Adam Silver on the NBA All star game change and much more!
01:47 - Jaycee Horn
10:34 - Thibbs fired from Knicks
21:47 - Draymond Green
30:20 - Adam Silver on the NBA All Star Game change
40:49 - Pelicans continue with Zion as face of the brand
46:55 - Westbrook to receive offer from European team
54:14 - Q & Ayyy
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
The pass cornerback. J C. Horn went out from Pro
Football Focus of their top ten cornerback rankings. This is
what happens when you let nerds who never touched the
field feel like they no ball man. Pro Football Focus
rank him twenty fifth in the NFL said Horn is talented,
but it's struggled with injuries in the NFL, despite being
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the league's second highest pad corner. Horn ranks twenty third
in Pro Football Focus at advanced coverage grade over the
last three seasons and twenty third in standard PFF coverage
grade of seventy nine point six across the past two
sauss Gardner's won, Pat ser Taddy's two, Trent McDuffie is three,
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Jalen Johnson, Darryl Stanley Jr.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's five.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
DJ Reid is six, Marlon Humphrey is seven, Kristin Benfred
is eight, jah Ere Alexander is nine, Denzel Ward is ten.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
In fact, let me let me tell you something.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
The fact that you know this list isn't correct, the
fact that Denzel Ward is all the way at ten.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
But then okay, let me ask you this, Oh Joe,
who you taking off this list and putting jac Horn
in front of what number.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Wait, see I needed I can't. I can't see that
from me, Run me, run me the first team real.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Quick assaults gone.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
There's one pass trip flip, but go ahead, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Trip.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
McDuffie is three, Kansas City, Jalen Johnson Barris four, Darryl
Stingley Jr. Tight Texans five. DJ Reed he's with the Lions, Knight.
If I'm not mistaken, he's with the Jets. Last year,
he's six, Marlon Humphrey, Baltimore Ravens seven, Kristin Bedford, Buffalo Bills,
Hey y'ah here, Alexander nine, Green bay Denzel Ward ten.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Now people on that list who you taking off and
putting them on.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I mean they disrespect. I've watched everybody. I watched everybody
who said play.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
And I'm not talking about just watching them on Sunday
them talking about I've seen film of them actually in
practicing what they've done, and I've seen the game film.
Now DJ Reid, I don't know much about. I don't
know much about DJ Reid. I'm gonna be honest. I
haven't seen him play. I haven't watched him. So if
I was to take anybody off it'll be DJ Reid.
Excuse me, I mean, no disrespecting Young Bull. I'm sure
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Young Bull is good because he's on there.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
For a reason. But I know and I've seen J C.
Horn play yeah consistently.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
I'm a big Stanley fan man Hey Stingy the real
deal way Stanley fann Man.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I love.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
I love the way the way you play.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
You know, he reminds me of like well football used
to be when I was in there watching it with
my grandpa as a kid.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
I love his in it you had to bring.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
But honestly, when he come to these lists, sometimes I'll
be trying to understand what's the criteria with some of
these things, Like what are they coming up with? Because
sometimes it felt like they picked somebody because they got
a bigger following on social media or something.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
It ain't got nothing to do with they ned, So.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
I'll be trying to figure out where where does this
stuff come from?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I agree with you, O Joe. I think Pastor Tan
for me, is the best corn in football.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Uh. Stingley obviously had a magnificent season.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Trent McDuffie, he's never made an All Pro team, don't
I think he's made one?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Let me take that back.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I think he's made one, but I don't think he's
ever made a Pro Bowl. Uh. He's sensational, especially in
the slot. Sauce, we know what saut Field. Sauce was
a defensive Rookie of the Year. All these guys are phenomenal.
We know Marlon Humphrey is not as its not what
he was was on the outside. But in that slot. Yeah,
Beffert really came into his own last year. We know
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y'all here what he is, what he represents at Denzel,
a fluid, smooth transition.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Looks really honestly, I mean no disrespect what Denzel. Denzel
is top five right now. I'm talking about in the
entirety of the league. You know, forget this list.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I understand.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
I think he top five, oh chart.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Hey, when we talk about a technique merchant, I'm talking
about Okay, technive, it don't matter, it don't matter who
he playing. Well, he can party, and he's switching up
based on who he playing against, too. He gonna play
everybody different. So I'm sitting there watching him depending on Okay,
let's say when they play the Bengals fences the way
he played T Higgins, he played Chase different and I'm
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sitting here watching this man I'm talking about it's like art.
It's like watching art because he had a different post
depending on who it is every single time. Then the
naked eye, the casual fan can't see it, but I'm
looking at it. I'm like, what the and I'm in
to my to me, hey, I'm him like Seim, I'm
looking like but damn. The defensive coordinatoring in Cleveland and
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Cleveland give him that much freedom to be able to
do stuff like that. Normally, when you get out there
and lineup, you line up the same way the same
time based on the coverage, the coverage of the defense
that's called.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Now, what you like, how you think you would have
reacted if he would have been guarding you? What you
would have did too?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I would have turned that twenty one to twelve.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
With me.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I respect Hey, listen, I told I forgot where was at.
Might have been Super Bowl or something, or I sat
there and told him. I told him about plays.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
He did though.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
He is a tremendous man, the man corner boy, especially him, Bump.
I talk about technical signing when the ball is now.
He never paned man. He played up all your elite
ball skills him and stingy, but got some of the
best ball skills along with certain I've ever seen brouh.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
No, That's why I like Stanley so much, for exactly
what you just broke down. And that's why I got
quiet because you speaking from experience. I'm speaking from a
so you looking at it from you actually playing the game.
I'm looking at it as a fan. But what I
see with Stantley is kind of what you just explained.
He plays different players difference. He can kind of play
both sides of the field. He get to it, he
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get off his line fast, So I rock with him.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He nice.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, I like God. I like God to travel.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Uh. You know, you look at Sauce and Pat, they're
kind of more They kind of like the tall angular guys.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Pat sirs had is so smooth.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
He transitioned extremely well, the way he can flip his hips.
For a guy his size, it's hard pressed and you
probably won't find a guy because.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Sir Tanna's like six two.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean yeah, ain't no, ain't no, yeah, ain't no
six foot he's six foot no, no, no, he's six two.
Maybe even tall Denzel Wards maybe not that tall. But
they kind of got sauce. Pat and Denzel kind of
have the same body type. They're like Finn framed. But
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but uh CD is like as good a technique for
someone he has good a technique like now Revers had
some techniques.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
I was just thinking about Daryl Reeves when you.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
When it comes to playing the position, when it comes
to playing dB, I've always said that.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I've been saying it for years.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I think dB is the hardest position on the field
outside outside of the quarterback. Reavers got the patience at
the line of scrimmage of Sally May because you know everybody.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Still owe them loans for years and years a year.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
That's the kind of patience I spoke God, that's kind
of patience Reavers got.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
You can take all the moves you want.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
He not moving, He's not budging until you go.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Move.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You forget it.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Might he might not bite the second move.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Doc Hey, O Joe, you can, Oh Joe, you could
do all this right, You do it all this right
here that you will.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Still waste because your waist ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Shout out to Josh Norman too, man, Josh, you need
to lock there as well.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Jared Verus troll pooking the coure for looking like Lord Farquhar.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Watch this, y'all, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
We have famous people in the building now, scheg it out,
schigure it out, schig it out.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, Lord Funk partners, Mom got Lord Funk. That's that's
what it's all about. That's what Joe, that's what you missed.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
All that joney that goes on in the Ota, that
goes on in mini camps and training camps and all
this is what you missed.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You can't where're gonna get this from, Joe? When you
leave the game, where you're gonna get it from, You're
not gonna be around.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
It's impossible. It's impossible.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
You try to listen, you try to recreate it with
your friends that have nothing to do with the game
of football that you've known all your life, but it
would be I feel like being in that locker room.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Nope, all right, Sember, we're gonna get to your favorite
We're gonna get to some NBA news.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Five seasons with the Knicks, Tom Fibodeaux went to twenty
six and one seventy four led the Knicks to the playoffs.
Four times, including back to back fifty win seasons, including
Eastern Conference Finals appearance for the first time in twenty
five years, advanced to and they advanced to the East Finals.
That wasn't enough, even Rick Carlisle said today, when I
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first saw it, I thought it was one of those
fake AI things.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
No way, there's no way. Simber when you.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
First heard the news, you read it, he's like, man,
they fired TIBs.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
What went through your mind?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (09:43):
I kind of expected it. I kind of expected it.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I feel like Tibbs And no disrespect to TIBs because
he's a legend, but I feel like his style of
coaching is a bit outdated. I feel he kind of
looks for things that the game doesn't call for anymore,
and he doesn't really go deep into his bench, and
by the time his players get to the fourth quarter,
they gassed. And we kind of seen that in the playoffs.
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We've seen Indiana kind of running him back and forth.
He tried to get deep in the bench. In basketball,
just like football, anything of sports, it's a game of rhythm,
you know what I mean. So you can't just throw
somebody in the playoffs when they ain't been playing all season.
In the third quarter and expect them to knock down shots.
So I think Bruntson could definitely benefit from a different coach.
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The Knicks could. And I don't see I've seen what
you guys are saying the other night. I don't see
why Tim's kind of brought Caddy in if they had
the same issue back in Minnesota. I kind of don't
get where that came from. But I think the call
was a good call. It might be a bit confusing,
but I think it was a good call.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Hey, and the wake up oh you read this, and
the wake of Tims fired. More reports have come out
about the Knicks coaching staff. Multiple Knick players have reportedly
been unhappy with the presence of assistant coach Rick Brunson,
who happens to be the dad of Jalen Brunson per Hoops.
While multiple Nick players have been unhappy with the presence
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of assistant coach Rick Brunson, who happened to be the
father of star point guard Jalen Brunson, what that issue
is exactly has not been determined. Those sources suggest that
Rick has too big of a say in things.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well is he probably gonna be the interim coach or
maybe the coach said that step.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Now they're gonna have a new coach. He ain't gonna
be there in them, he ain't gonna be nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
So you don't think.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I don't think. I don't think they're gonna give him
the job. I don't think if they would have better,
I think Leon Rose and Worldwide West, who runs the
Knicks for Dolan? They're looking, Is it gonna be Bootenholzer,
Is it gonna be local? Is it gonna be you
know one of these guys? Uh uh? What's Mike.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
And Letter say? The funny thing about it is is Timms.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Tims led the the Knicks to one of their greatest
not greatest season, but he took them very far. It's
been a very very long time since they've been in
a game of that magnitude or a series of that magnitude.
And when you look at the records of the past coaches,
I mean, he's done the best.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Again.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I agree with see him based on what out come.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
You know, the little bit of basketball knowledge that I
do have is he does running players into the ground,
and they wore tie it. They were tired, especially when
they got to the back end of the season. The
back end of the series. Yeah, them boys ain't had
no legs.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
But let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Okay, it's like, oh man, they lost to they lost
to the uh, they lost to the Pacers. Had they
had they lost to Boston, would you're still a fired
Because I think the thing is maybe maybe beating the
beating the Celtics, who's the defending champs, Maybe that set
them unrealistic expectations because now, man, we knocked off Jason
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Tatum and Jaylen Brown, the team that won the champions
just a year ago, won sixty games, and now we
lose to the Pacers. But if you go back to
look at the places, they got five six guys and
double figures every game. That's what they do. They're committee.
So you don't know who gonna light your ass up.
For one or two games. It might be si Okam.
Another game, it might be niemanth another game, it might
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be Halliburton. So you you it's hard for you to determine, well,
who do we take away?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Who do we take away? So I think that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I think once they beat the Celtics, everybody's like, oh Nick,
oh man, Nick going to the finals. Yeah, oh, we
got the Pacers. The Pacers just beat y'all last year
in Game seven on y'all home court.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I was one of them people too, right there.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
My bad. This was this was this was a worst
matchup for the next because the thing that the Pacers
do the Knicks don't do well is get back on defense.
If you look at the Pacers, they're looking to run,
make or miss. They'll take it out, take it off
the rim, or take it out the net. You saw
the last game on Joe the Dicks make a basket
and in one past they Pascal Siacame is euro step
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and laying.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Them all up up the floor.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So and you look at it. So now you got
Cat and people can play. They were complaining about Cat
playing defense, when if you known Cata the defensive guys.
So what you gave up getting Michael Bridges all those
draft picks, you weaken your bitch, and in the process
of weeking your bitch, now you got the ride. Guys
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got to play guys extending minutes in the regular season,
and you overload.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Them come playoff time.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
He expanded it, but if you remember the first Coming series,
he was only playing seven guys and then it got
to the point he played eight nine guys, it's too late,
too late.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Agree.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I agree, I think and New York might tear me
up for this, but I think Boston lost that series
more than New York won it. And what I mean
by that was, we didn't see great coaching from Tims.
In the first two games. We seen Boston get comfort
the bull and the Knicks make an incredible comeback twice.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
We didn't see great coaching and great tactics.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
And I think Boston kind of just like what you
just said, how the Knicks felt about the Pacers felt
that way about the Knicks, like, oh, we got the Knicks,
we got this, it's easy, and they kind of got comfortable,
let their feet off the gas, and they suffered in
the long run.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, what happened was that they're shooting all them damn threes,
and you see what happened. Now, when you make them,
that's great, But what happened when you miss them? And
now they don't because they've been so successful making those
threes come crunch clutch time, they can't run no sets.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
They still jacking them a bunch of threes. And you
see the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Operating every time, they getting lay up, they getting whatever
they want to get. Man, I mean teams like with Damn,
I probably we should We probably should have lost to
the sel Things because I do believe, and I could
and I could be totally wrong, Sam, but I believe
because they beat the Celtics they had unrealistic expectations.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
They thought they were gonna have a cake walk to
the NBA Finals.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Yep, I totally agree with that. Let me ask you,
guys this, where do you see Tibbs going? And what
do you think is the nixt head coach for the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
He Well, you got some guys out there.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You got Mike Malone, you got Bootenholzer, you got Frank Vogel.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Hell, give Sam can sale chance. You know what about
Mark Jackson?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Bring Mark back?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
He played in the guard. He's from New York. Uh,
I'm trying to think who I'm trying to think Who's
who's a hot hotare Stephen Smith? Steven Day and tried
to Steve They tried to coach no basketball.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I was like, look, I.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Mean, Sam, Mark Jackson, even hell, you don't even hear
Mark Jackson ain't even mentioned for coaching.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Yeah, it feels like they completely pushed Mark Jackson out.
I think Mike Loan would be great for New York.
I think his style of coaching would be great for
the city. It'd be great for Brunton. But I also
think they got to bring somebody else in there that
can knock down some shots. So Brunson ain't controlling the
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ball so much because I feel it slows the offense
down when he's doing that in the fourth quarter, and
sometimes when Anononobe is getting going, or Cat might be
getting gone, or Bridges might get going. Now Brunton kind
of comes in and he takes the next four shots
and it kind of gets everybody out of rhythm. So
I definitely think they got to bring in another ball
handler or score or something to help complete it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Hey, what about the name mentioned I Doka, Jason Kidd.
Both of those guys have current jobs. Jay R. Brown
former coach Walk Mike Brown like Luke walking that now.
I just saw him on somebody. If you with the Cavs,
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I saw him somewhere.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
New York could tell Luke Walton up on.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
The pistols. Yeah, that's why Jammie bicker Staff.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But you got Bootenholzer who lost the job got a job,
got fired. You have Vogel who had a job, got
a job, got fired. Mike Brown got fired after he
had just signed the contract extension. Budenholder had another four
years left on his contract. Vogel had another four years
left on his contract, I mean eight. Matter of fact, it.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Feels like the last ten years of coaches of the
year got fired.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It got to be the right coach to to deal
with that New York atmosphere. Everybody ain't built flat, definitely.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
H Draymond Green says he was rather losing the first
round than the NBA finals. Black Sports Online tweeted about
Draymond comments, said, I can call this my Lebron theory,
and you.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Can use it for any elite player.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It is better to go undefeated in the finals then
and go to a bunch of finals and lose. If
Lebron was pouring on in the finals of the pools
to four and six, would the perception be different if
the same thing was really symbol What do you think?
Speaker 7 (19:11):
I agree? I want, I want thousand percent agree. Man.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
It's it's that's a tough thing to do, right. You
gotta think about you guys played professional sports. Think about
all the thing that goes on from on the field
off the field, right, and to win a championship or
even to get to the finals playoffs let alone, y'all
got to be on one accord, you know. So to
constantly keep getting there, that shows the signs of greatness.
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Whether you keep failing or not, you still keep getting there.
Everybody like to talk about Mike getting there six times
and him winning the six rings and everything like that,
but he also had a road of trying to get there.
That was a process. Lebron kind of got there a
little faster. So I agree with him.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, because Lebron before and knowing the finals as opposed
to four and six now, that's still four wins.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
If you have people say le Bron got five rings,
if you ask me, I count that in season tournament.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Sim Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Lebron
got four rings in twenty two seasons.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
They're gonna say, what do you do in the other
eighteen seasons? Go to the finals? So I get it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's just like, look, social media and social media has
its place.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
It's done a lot of good.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It's made a lot of people famous, it's made a
lot of people wealthy beyond expectations. But I think the
thing is is that now everybody is a general manager,
everybody is a coach, everybody is a player personnel direct
that everybody is a former NFL player, or former NBA
player or MLB player, and so it gives everybody. Everybody
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has an opinion now, whereas before a lot of these
guys it'll been very injury. If let's just say we started,
we're gonna start social media in the eighties and.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Everybody could have an opinion.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
When Jordan was getting bounced in the first round, I
wonder how they would take that if he's the best
player and he to go, because they're crying him to
go to nineteen eighty nine they said he's the greatest
players we've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
With no finals appearances.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
And the crazy thing about that, I just seen something
the other day. I think, what was it NBA did
to deal with NBC in eighty nine or something like that,
So we didn't even get to see like those first
couple of years of July. Where's the tape of everybody
talking there like we see highlights, Like we didn't get
to see everything.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So it's like, no, you didn't see you didn't see
basketball game.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
There was not a whole lot of you didn't get
a child for you to watch basketball during the week.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
You watched basketball on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Got you now once the playoffs started, okay, that was
a different story. But I grew up in the era
where the games would tape the lay even the NBA Finals,
the playoff with tape the lady, you didn't get an
opportunity to see those.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So and when it first started, the first round was
the best two out of three. You win two games,
and then you advanced, and then you went to the semifinals,
and if you won three out of five, the best
of seven wasn't to the conference finals and the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
And it used to be you.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Got three shots to make two by the free throw line,
so once you got to the bonus, you got three
shots to make two. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
See, I think bron Bron would have dominated in that era.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
It's just like if we look at it, like the
role Lebron had to travel, Right, we're talking about somebody
that's coming in from high school eighteen eighteen years old,
all his criticism on him, and this is like when
the internet is kind of coming into his age, absolutely
got an opinion on him. Mike didn't necessarily have to
deal with that type of pressure. Now, Mike did deal
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with people outside the hotel rooms waiting. No, I mean
newspaper articles. But like you just said, with social media today,
it's one thing. It's a bittersweet thing. Everybody has an opinion,
but everybody opinion is invalidated because they haven't done it right.
I can't come to you and tell you I think
you wrong about anything in football.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
I ain't never played in the NFL. Who am I
to tell you?
Speaker 6 (23:21):
As a fan, I could give you my opinion, and
that's what I always try to speak.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
From from a fan perspective.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Right when we're.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Talking about people that did it at a high level,
sometimes you just got to shut up, you know what
I mean, and listen to what the greats is seen.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I mean, it's not very often that an eighteen year
old gets to come in he's the number one overall
pick and they're handing the keys to the franchise. They said, okay,
we're gonna go. We're only gonna go as far as
you take us. And now he didn't have a whole
lot of experience. He didn't get an opportunity to go
to college and learn on a legendary coach.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
He didn't. I mean, think about what he had.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
He came from a single parent home and he bounced around,
so everything that you see, he's kind of like had
to had to get it on his own, like tal
and he hadn't had you know, Uh, he hadn't had
any missteps for the most part. Yeah, you could say
people like, well, what about what about the decision? Well,
the Girls and Boys Club got five hundred thousand. That
(24:18):
wouldn't have missed that exactly because guess what, somebody wanted
to hear it. I tell you what, if you think
it's missed that, if he wasn't who he was, tell
somebody else to have a decision, Yeah, and see how
they get covered.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Yeah, I'm totally with you. I think, in my opinion,
bron is the greatest to ever do it. I think
he went up against some of the greatest talent, right
like Dwight Howard, We're talking about Baby Shack and his prime, Like,
you gotta go up against that seven games, right, you
gotta go up against the San Antonio Spurs.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
So he beat the Spurs you.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Know what I mean, Like they had to go up
against the Dallas Mavericks, who was incredible. We may not
look at them as the most athletic team with them
as a team, the Dallas Mavericks around that time, they
were incredible. And then to top it off, Kevin Durant
the Warriors. Yeah, you know what I mean, everything we
had to go up against.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Where would you And that's what I always tell people
of all the NBA champions where would you rank that
seventeen eighteen Warriors team? How many teams in history would
you have over them that. Let's just go back to
the nineties. When Jordan won his championships. What team did
he face? Was the seventeen eighteen Warriors for the Seattle No?
(25:35):
Was it Utah?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Was it Portland? Was it Phoenix? I'm just trying to
figure out. And so you looking at it, look, I
mean think about it. On that team you got Steph
and Clay, I mean Stephan Draymond All seventy five team.
You look at Portland, not Portland, San Antonio, Tim Duncans
(26:01):
All seventy seventy fifth Anniversary team, Kawhi seventy fifth anniversary team.
Uh mine was not a seventy fifth anniversary guy is
I don't think so Tony Parker's Tony Parker won. I
don't think Tony Parker won. Yeah, But but they make
it seem like the the only, the only, the only,
the only team that I.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Think they should have beat.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
But when you go back and look at it, the
Mavericks swept, see people sweep this out of the rug.
Sim that Mavericks team swept the Lakers team that had
just went back to back.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
I just said, we we forget about that because they
weren't the most sexy, they wasn't athletic, but that was
a great team.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
They swept the Lakers that had just went back to back.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
They had a gentleman's sweep on OKC.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
But still, for me, I think that was the only
time that that Lebron has probably been favored and he
didn't win, and.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
It's it could have.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
It was a thing I truly believe of him and
d Wade didn't know who team it was yet, so
I think that case, I think they was looking for
each other the lead and kind of who was going
to take the lead, and it was kind of getting
too late by that time.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
The Mavericks had already won two games.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Right, Adam Silver on the NBA All Star Game next
season and the Clippers into it. Don't the All Star
Game will feature some form Team USA versus Team World.
All Star Game now will be in the afternoon instead
of the evening.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
You like that change, Sam.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
I feel like All Star Game is it's been a tragedy.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
The past few years.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Oh man, it's been a tragedy.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
And I think when things keep becoming a tragedy and
you keep trying things and it's not.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Working, just go back to the original way.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Just go away.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
But the thing is, though, to them, they don't play anymore,
see them, I don't want to see no games team
in the NBA. They scoring two hundred points, Sam, But
you know now all of them is dunks and threes.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
They ain't playing no defense.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
But you know why that is?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Hunh?
Speaker 7 (28:17):
You know, like I know, those weekends ain't about the
game no more.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Nah, part of the city it used to be about
the game.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
They not coming in there.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Anthony Edwards had about nine events on Saturday, seven, on Friday, three,
on Thursday, a brunch on Sunday before the game. I'm tired, man.
They got me doing all this. So they got a
final way to bring the events kind of down, a
little bit of something to get these players time to
kind of enjoy their families, enjoy their week off, and
(28:48):
show up on Sunday raid to play and play.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
They gotta play. But oh ya, I said this.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I remember when I when I saw this thing going
left with the Pro Bowl, I said, they're gonna cancel
this before you know. Nah man, Now, I said, I'm
telling you, they not finna keep paying y'all this money
they paying y'all.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Oh jo they payed them one hundred thousand just to compete.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I remember, and we was, oh, Joe, you went shortly
after I left the league, y'all probably was making fifteen
twenty five tops.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
It wasn't that much.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Now they mak it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Now you get eighty, you get a one hundred thousand
if you win, you get fifty seventy five thousand if
you lose.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Ain't got Now they out there playing touch football.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Now they've turned it into a flag football, and they
got all these festivities where you know, you try to
hit the bulls eye and you hit a movie like
come on.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
I was thinking back back then when we played on
I mean everything, it was about competing and it was competitive.
Maybe might have been an All Star game, it might
have been a Pro Bowl where you know those that
were selected. But when it was time to play man, hey,
Sam Boy, it was real. You know when Kobe and
them boy and then shock them boys when they made
off when it was they had All Star game, Oh
(29:54):
they was finna play.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
I feel like too.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
It was a different level of focus in your time
because it wasn't so many distractions, so everybody was kind
of like zoned in on their craft, zoned in on
what it is they did. So when they came to
play with the OCHO right when Charles Woodson got a guard, Oho,
you want to prove his point out there?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
And I tried to prove mine.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, Now, I TOLDO, I said, look, when I went
across that water, I was looking to light somebody asked
up one on walk if I didn't want you to
think you get back to the mainland and could cover me.
You couldn't come me across the water. You can't come
me on the mainland. So don't you come with with
that bull drive NOWA that's but I was just like
and and and and and the thing is like you said,
(30:37):
now it's a layup or three boy shot.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Oh, but I said, bro y'all, y'all quit the hollow. Jordan,
y'all quit the haller. Kobe, y'all don't say nothing about it.
When it comes to the All Star Game, y'all don't
mention Kobe or Jordan. But y'all quick, that's all about
They was killers. Yeah, okay, when y'all goosed to be
turning some killers of the doll Star Game.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Yeah, I think it's just a different time now.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Unk.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
Like, Man, I've seen this.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Shout out to Jason Crow Junior, a young player coming
up out here in California. I went to one of
his games, and I've seen a few players and they
was just talking and one of these kids was like,
as long as I get.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
An nil deal, I don't even work worry about going
to NBA.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Yeah, And I was like, man, like, the competitive nature
of just grinding and wanting to achieve your goal and
that process is gone now because these kids getting so
much money. You go to some of these colleges, the
parking lot look like a Ben's dealership, like it does.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
It's different.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It ain't it, ain't no more, ain't no more scat pass,
no hell cast and all the track halts, them jokes
got ferrari, they got lamboles, they got colored in there.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I'm like Daniel, listen, Sam, that's a that's a short dream.
You short changing yourself. The big dream, the big money.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I mean it's a n I l A that's gonna do.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
That's good money. That hey, that hold yo, I'm trying
to get the fifty set up.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
There got the mill until you see everybody else you
played with getting two hundred fifty million and you talking
about some man.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
She speaking speaking of that quick question for both of you.
What's something from you guys's childhood that fueled you'll work
as it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I ain't have no running water, that'll do it.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Going outside with the mosquitoes biting you, and you gotta
take raid and spread to keep the mosquitoes off you,
and you gotta put a you gotta put an overcoat
on to go go out in the woods. That a
motivation you. You ain't got no indoor plumbing, you ain't
got no running water, you ain't got no air condition.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
That a motivation you?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You? I mean you go like a warehouse and they
got seamen floors. That's what we had. That a motivation.
You got a tin roof and you can look up
and you can see the sun. That a motivation. Sometimes
an empty stomach, it's all the motivation you need.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I had kids early, bro, I had kids early, and
obviously my dream. My dream was to play in the NFL.
And I put in too much work as a little shorty,
as a legit.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I had to make it. I told myself, I'm gonna
make it to the league.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
I remember telling coaches in high school, remember telling teachers
I was gonna make it. They told me I was never.
I never was gonna mouthed nothing. I needed that he
gave me and gave me a little chip, So I'm
gonna make it. Obviously, and having kids early shady, I
got to take care of these kids.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
He had no choice. And I wanted to be good
at my craft. I wanted to be good. I didn't
need the best.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
But whenever I left the game, people gonna say, boy,
he was one of the one of the best to
ever played.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
That that was that was motivating.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
An empty stomach and an empty wallet. What more motivation
you need?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
With fact?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
And they ain't need somebody else too.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
You know what you need? That's it. Your Grandma's like
a hey boy, ain't got no lights. I ain't got
no phone, the phone off because you can't pay a
fifty dollar phone bill and they ain't got no lights.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
So you know you gotta you gotta.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
My grandma gotta jug some stuff around and you gotta
make it do until she can come up till the
next payday. Yeah, oh yeah, all right, son, you got
to go go out there and get some ads because
we ain't got no eggs. So now we got to
go out there and get eggs. You gotta find agg
you got to run the gens off.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
The eggs man.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
You know that I hate sem and it's people that
you know it needs to be done right, but you're
with your friends to do it. Like there's no self motivation.
You can't get nothing done unless somebody else is doing
it with you. But that means you fooling yourself, you fully.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
And I used to I used to have that same problem.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
I used to have that same problem because I was
afraid of feeling, and I was afraid of feeling by myself.
So I was like, I either want to win with
somebody or we fail together. And one thing I had
to learn is like that don't bless me, you know
what I'm saying. So you might bring in the wrong person.
You might have the wrong person that you're trying to
walk into a situation that he don't belong in.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
And it's like, God ain't.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Gonna grant you what you looking for because you bringing
you bringing damaged goods to the table of what I'm
trying to set for you. So I had to I
had to learn how to develop that confidence for myself
of just sitting in that studio writing and being in
this room and you know, looking at my son in
the face like I'm doing it for you, bro, I'm
not doing it too because I'm afraid no more or
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bringing all these people with me for validation because I'm
afraid of what might happen if they're not there. Like now,
you got to get up and go do it. If
you failed, just fall forward and get up and keep going.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, I remember happening when I had dreams about being
something and it wasn't a whole lot of people in
my dream. I'm like, well, damn, I guess he tried
to tell me something m I wasn't supposed to bring
a whole lot of people with me.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
M oh Man.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Even even the biggest planes can only carry so much
of a load. Even the biggest planes, oh Joe, even
with the biggest cargo planes, there's only they can only
carry so much.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Oh, that's so that's so true.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
My mom.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
My mom says something to me the other day to
stick with me. I was telling her she was trying
to introduce me to somebody, and I was like, my
own't even like meeting too many people no more, because
they come around with these expectations and they think you're
supposed to do something. And I remember wanting to be
in this space and be like, when I get my shot,
I'm never gonna be mean or turn people down.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
I'm gonna take every picture. But people take that for granted.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
And my mom says, I was like, it's hard for
me to get along with people to now I feel
like they don't understand me. And my mom said, uh,
she said, she said, when you growing, she said, it's
not that people don't love you. When you're growing, you
hard to understand. Right, If someone hasn't tried to grow,
(37:03):
you're going to always be hard to understand because they
stuck at where they at and you're trying to go
somewhere else, and they may see that as all you changing,
and because you not adopting the ideologies they have now,
you feel like they feel like you devalue them when
it's just like, nah, bro, it might be a better
way we could grow together. So that's something I had
to learn right there.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Uh, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
It's tough because you know, a lot of times you
want to the people that were around when you didn't
have anything. But a lot of times those people their
minds doesn't grow like yours grow. They think just because
they're around, they're supposed to always be around. But at
some point in time you can look. I understand, but
there has to be value that comes along with something.
(37:49):
The New Orleans Pelicans will continue to move forward with
Zion Williamson as the face of their franchise. Per Joe Dubars,
I've had some real artist conversations with him, some real
direct and honest conversations. We're going forward with Zion. He's
going to continue to be the focal point as we
go forward.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Sim Since Zion and Milwaukee, man, you gotta you gotta
get it. Not for your honest let him go play
with you, but you gotta get him out of New Orleans.
You got all that good food out there. You gotta
what's that place? Dragons?
Speaker 7 (38:26):
They got that, the big oysters over there. You got.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
The crab, the crab.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Oh my god, you got all that good food. Man,
get Zion where they got vegan options.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
You gotta get him.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
You gotta get him out of New Orleans immediately. I
think the run is done. I think that the time
has come for them to kind of blow this thing
up and let him move on.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
It's over with.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Oh Joe, Hey, you know, we we talked about Zion
in length, you know, for a very long time now,
and he hasn't spoken at all.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
You know, We've all had our opinion.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Obviously. I want to see him playball. Whether it's New Orleans,
I don't care. I don't care where it is. I
just want to see him on the court because I
know what he can do once he's out there, when
he's healthy. Whether whether it be New Orleans, I'm not
sure what's gonna happen. You know how this business works,
and mostly the players have all the levers. So unless
he says he doesn't want to be there. He's going
(39:25):
to be a Pelican. If he's going to be there,
I just want to see him on the court. Pro
that's it.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's hard to give up a superstar, trade a superstar
unless you're going to get one back in return.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
And that's why the star, he's a star. I'll be
a star player.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I mean, it looked we had they like, damn, we
had a D, we lost a D and the next
year we get Zion.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Ain't nobody, ain't no stars coming to New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
And so that's why when these small market team when
they when they land one of these big fish, they
try to hold on to him as long as they
possibly can. That's why Milwaukee bending over backwards, trying to
make sure, what do you need you need ten Harley
Davidson's we'll get them for you. What do you what
do you need? You need an Airbnb and and and
and and and believe we'll get it for you. Because
(40:14):
think about it, you go Kareem and then Kareem leaves.
I think in like seventy six, seventy five, seventy six,
it's thirty years before you get Yannis. So it's not
You're not La. You got Will, you got Jared West,
you got el Jim Baylor, you got Kareem, you got Magic,
(40:34):
you got James Worthy, you got Kobe, you got Shot,
you got Lebron, you got a d Now you got Luca.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
It don't work like that for it don't work like
that for everybody, see elf.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, So when I get a guy, I'm gonna do
everything I possibly can.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
So Cleveland got Lebron. They a.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
You want to build us? You want you to be Okay,
we'll build our trainshial close to where you living Afrod Okay, cool,
no problem. You want access, no problem. You want your
mama to sit here, no problem? Because what's the likelihood
of you ever getting another Lebron James? If you Cleveland.
(41:18):
So with that being said, you move heavy and earth
and you do everything you can to make sure they're happy. Look,
I agree with you, o, y'all. I just wanted to
be healthy. I wanted to be healthy for two years
in a row because I believe he can turn the corner.
Because Aillan can't be more than what twenty five, yeah,
twenty four, twenty five.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
He's some He's somewhere around there. Somewhere.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
But I'm telling you, Unk, in order to keep them healthy,
you gotta get them out of New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Man.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
You gotta get them some vegan options. We gotta get
them some Asai bowls. We gotta get them healthy out there, Unk, Like,
we all want to see them ball, we want to
see them play, but it's always been a dilemma and
they just they can't seem to get it together.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Well, good luck with that, Joe, dude. Look, Joe Dubars
has been around the game. He been I mean, he's
been around the game forty plus years. He's played with
some great players. He put some teams together, and so
we'll see what he can do. Euro Cup champion Tel
(42:26):
Aviv are expecting to make Russell Westbrook an offer never
before seen in European basketball. Should russ accept the money
or stay? Basically, he's gonna be on a mid level
or a minimum contract. O Joe, sim does he take
the big dollars to go overseas or does he stay
right here?
Speaker 4 (42:46):
You say big dollars? How much are you talking?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I mean, I mean, in order to make it make sense,
it's probably gonna need to be twelve fifteen millis.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Not well considered he make four five million in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Hell no, absolutely not, not for someone of his caliber.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
What's the most money somebody's made the European basketball? Can
we find that we need to get We need a
AI anybody want to advertise so we can just pull
that up and it just pop up on my screen.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
So no, I think I don't think Russ need the money. Man,
you know, Russ is invested in a lot of.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Don't need the money.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
Yeah, I don't think he'll go out there and play
for the money.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
And then he don't want to be away from his family.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
He ain't move with his family overseas.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
I think it's white the name. He got kids, he
got twins, and that not he going.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Uh, absolutely not makes no sense. And they couldn't offerim.
They couldn't offer him enough.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Oh hell now, the most money anybody's ever made in
Europe is four million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
It's over that. They might as well.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
They might as well get that to me.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yuh, look, get up to me.
Speaker 7 (44:01):
I go out there, give them twelve or ten.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
I give him am.
Speaker 8 (44:06):
Hey, you know it can get crazy. Now if the
Saudi's had a league. Now they oh like they like,
they got like they got they could pull you, they
could pull some NBA players and fire of there.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Oh yeah you see what Renald over getting man? Please
two hundred million a year? Hey yeah, Lebron to leave
for two hundred million a year.
Speaker 7 (44:29):
A year, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, I going over there, Hey, going over there for
a quick for five.
Speaker 7 (44:37):
Years there are here, unc I ain't never coming back.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah, a matter of fact, getting me with no tax
I don't think. I don't think. You probably don't play
taxes on it. And they gave a jet and they
gave him uh uh, what's it called, like a car everything?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, they gave a house.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Yeah, and that money over the different man, they got it.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
They got it, big money.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Sam. But check this out. Apparently, Oh Joe was in
the gym today and he was tossing around some one twenties.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Apparently we got video evidence we got here.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Hey, I'm strong.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
I'm just trying to figure out. I don't see no
sing I got we got to zoom in. We gotta
see it the one twenty because.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Them could be damn them damn weights bigger than my
damn chest.
Speaker 9 (45:33):
Somebody you know what big Yeah, there was some big weights. Okay,
oh yeah, yeah, I'm strong now, I'm strong.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
I just like this.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
For it's a it's a life finding. No, we don't
do anything less than sick.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
We don't do anything when I go in there tomorrow, right,
Tomorrow's legs for me, right, but Sam, just for him,
I want to show him.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
I saw Aaron.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Donald doing one thirties, right, so I'm like, okay, Aaron don'
doing on thirties. I know I could do one twenties.
I could do five. So tomorrow I'm gonna go to
one forties. I'm gonna do a set while I'm fresh.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
You ain't gonna do nothing to me.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
You told me I couldn't do one twenties and I
just gave you five right there. But he did it
on the incline, do the in class.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
This is mean.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Look what you mean?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
What the difference?
Speaker 3 (46:32):
It's me? It's me.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
I could do that.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Man.
Speaker 5 (46:35):
You keep telling me what I can't do, and I
keep showing you I could do it. You told hey, Sam,
you're gonna see me tomorrow, right. I'm opposing Tomorrow's leg day.
But I just want to show un I could do
one forties and I'm gonna do it on inclan because
he just told me I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
He He sounded like my teachers in high school. They
told me. Now I'm on nightcap.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
I mean, there it is.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
He said, he go do it tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
I would let it. I would let him have it.
He gonna catch me.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I'm gonna sneak in the Florida one day and catch
him in the gym. Let everybody see what I for.
What they do? It real bad?
Speaker 7 (47:11):
What you what you're putting up in there? What you're
looking like?
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Nothing?
Speaker 5 (47:16):
We didn't Listen, we live the same amount of weight.
And no, we're about the same size right now, but
we live the same amount of weight. Uh Sam, Still
right Sam? Right now, I lost I lost about twenty pounds.
They got a little something going on right now. But
give it, give it, give it, give it. Give me
a little bit of time. I'll get past that. I
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deal with you downed road.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
Listen, you done lost weight and I'm gaining weight. But
it's cool, That's okay.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I still I probably still could do those one twenties.
I ain't at the one fifties like I used to be.
But give me, give me fifties.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
You do one fifties, Okay, then I do one fifties tomorrow,
just to show you where I'm at. Man, you really listen, hey,
seem you know not on no funny ship. You could
see you can see the frame. Man, I'm sculpting like
a like a Greek, like a Greek god.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
Good, you really can't see it. And you know my
girl be tripping by having my.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Shirt Offso now I thought you. I thought you had
what you call him night cap tattooed on your chest.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Oh you got to.
Speaker 5 (48:19):
Hooeyut bad damn you? I was he really liked that
got tattoo. Yeah, hey, listen, I'm ready. I'm ready for
the summer, man, I said, when the summer start.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Summers June twenty, June twenty first, twenty second official a.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Boy from what you stopped.
Speaker 7 (48:45):
Summers.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Here, I see some nice soft legs today. Some's here
you see it? What some nice soft legs somesion, ain't
I appreciate. I appreciate y'all for having me. Man, big
fan of the show, as y'all already know. Love, We're
going up tomorrow for the NBA Finals. Shout out to
the Payoffs. Scouts Big Watch party tomorrow. Love what y'all
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doing here at Nightcap. Man, appreciate you, Oh appreciate you.
Y'all keep killing, Tell them where we can find you.
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Tell us where we can find you at the real
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we like to do something before to something.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
That's what I'm talking about, Sam. We appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Man, all the best, continued success when you get some
time stop back by gearing for us.
Speaker 7 (49:39):
Definitely will appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
All right, guys, Oh Joe, we're gonna get you out
of here on this one, and that's time for our
final seven of the evening.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
It's time for Q and eight. Hey gin.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Un thing but nice and clean and nice and slow too.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Quentin Mobley said, Oh Joe was having a season with
them one twenty dumb bells today that ball was shaking
worse than a woman in the area. Twenty nine hashtag
muchee him talking. They making jokes, but I wasn't shaking.
I was nice and slow and perfect form.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Shake it.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
I don't think you know it's funny. I think people
don't really understand how heavy that is. Huh. I mean
you you see it all the time, You've done it
all the time.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
But I think people that go to the Cancil gym
where they don't even have one hundred and twenty pounds dumb.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Bells, I don't think they understand how heavy that is.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
I'm really like that.
Speaker 4 (50:37):
I told you if she.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Ain't won eighty Uh, doctor Frankie L.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Bell, behave fam What's one thing today players do better
than your era, And what's one thing they'll never touch
from your generation?
Speaker 3 (50:50):
That part talent?
Speaker 2 (50:51):
That yeah, it's called it's called technology.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Show what happens.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
They got better die, they got better training, they got
a better they got they got they started from a
better foundation. I do think we have a better appreciation,
but I ain't finn to see them say, oh, look,
there are certain players that were talented, but I'm talking
about overall the talent in all sports. Because they got
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better training, they got better nutrition, they got better technology.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Just the way it is.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
I mean, think about how Look. Think about when Tiger
Tiger nineteen ninety seven burst on the scene. Think about
how far he was hitting the golf ball. He's the
only one they could do it. Now they got twenty ball,
twenty guys, thirty guys. They can hit the golf ball
as far as Tiger. Look at the guys when we
were in Awe the way Reggie Miller and Larry Bird
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and Mark Christ them guys shot the ball.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Man they got got they got free folk. Guy of
a team that I shoot the cut off the ball.
It is what it is, Oh Joe, I accepted.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
I don't know if you know. Man, my generation we
did with did, but they got better technology. Now they
got more. It's called advancement. You know how I know.
Look at medicine. They don't do surgery the same way.
Oh Joe, ain't no guy missing. Your career is not
over when you have ACL Your career is not over
when you have the killes injury.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
I mean stuff that used to people were done. Now
guys come back.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Kevin. Look at Kevin Durrad. If somebody didn't tell you,
you wouldn't know. Kevin Durant came came up. The Achilles
injury Lady Red finally back, Uh, Lady Rad, Hey, guys,
love and Shallon's tea.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Who's your favorite Simpson character? Mine is Ralphy?
Speaker 1 (52:59):
Who Quo Bark Yeah, Holmer Bark Leaf, Marge.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
You can't name all of them. We say who's your
favorite one?
Speaker 3 (53:14):
But I'm just saying. Ashley was asking me, do I
know characters? Look?
Speaker 2 (53:20):
I like the Simpsons, American Dads? What about South Park?
Stewie give me, give me Stewie, give me Stewie.
Speaker 7 (53:29):
Story.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Funny you watch South Park? I watched a little bit
of You have a favorite character? You don't know most
of them?
Speaker 2 (53:37):
I don't really know the care I used to watch
what what's the one that come on m t V?
Beavers and Bad? So if I had to say Holmer Man,
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the Simpsons been, Oh damn the forty they was coming
on because.
Speaker 5 (54:06):
Funny and for some reason, the Simpsons are very good
at predicting history. But they they're close to it every time.
There ain't no goddamn coincidence every time. Nope, you're right,
here's her said Uncle Ocho. You were both leaders in
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your locker room. How would you have handled the Dolphins
bullying scandal? If that would have happened in your locker
rooms in devil Baltimore, Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
Well, first of all, that would have never happened. Ain't nobody.
Ain't nobody gonna be saying all that? What what happened?
Speaker 2 (54:42):
They said it wasn't bullying, but there was some racial
appitet being being thrown around in the locker room, not
to the extent of it. I don't know. I wasn't there,
but that ain't what we did.
Speaker 4 (54:53):
We're talking about bullying, win, I know.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
I guess a Richard Richard, Yeah, needle and and and.
Speaker 5 (55:02):
Madam bully, you've grown ass man man in the NFL,
you three hundred some pounds, talk about somebody book get
your ass.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Yeah, wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
But even if it wasn't bullying and wing'na, we ain't
gonna be hurling no racial lepodas.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
I don't remember that part. Okay, my bad mm hmm Lillie.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Well, look, holy they got it resolved. I mean, look,
our locker room was harmonious. Did did guys right there?
But the fall over you know, they fall in the
locker room. Damn training cap. We had to get Tracy.
You know, hey, you say the wrong thing or you
know something. You know. Hey, look, I think sometimes don't
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your people think because you make X amount of dollars
that some of the same things that will set somebody
off that doesn't make money.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
We'll set the person off that make money. And I'll tell.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
You, guys ain't gonna let there's a certain level.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
I don't care how big you are, how old you are.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Certain guy ain't gonna just let you blatantly disrespect them,
because no matter where you are, the number one currency
is respect. So Casey Taylor, start, Bench, cutt Duce mcauster,
Wark done, Brian m Brian Westbrook, this is for you.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Uh so ojoe, you got Duce mccollus to war.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
He said, he said, no, no, no, this is no
he said for you. I got Algiae, Crumpler, random, McMichael,
Chris Cooley. So I got the tight end, you got
the running backs. You want me to go first?
Speaker 4 (56:44):
Yeah'm gonna go first.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
You want me to go first, and you're going first.
I'm going first. Okay, I'll take you. I'll start Algia
crumpler six and one hand, half a dozen the other.
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I guess i'd go McMichael, bench chairman and cut Cooley.
Speaker 3 (57:16):
But you can go either.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
I mean, I mean, I probably should start Bitch Cooley
and uh Randy McMichael.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
But I'll go I'll go Algaie Randy or Cooley.
Speaker 4 (57:28):
So I got Duce McAllister, walk Done and.
Speaker 5 (57:31):
Brian west Oh my god, Nah, it's my start is
out of Brian Westbrook and and work Done.
Speaker 4 (57:42):
I just I'm trying to figure out which one.
Speaker 5 (57:46):
Because Brian west very simple, egregrated to say the same thing,
very similar guy who was a little bit more dynamic.
Brian Westbrook was nice. Walk Done was nice as well.
They both laid the same and can catch the ball
out the backfield.
Speaker 4 (58:03):
Mccallouson was a big back.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
Uh huh, yeah, he is.
Speaker 4 (58:09):
A big boy. I wonder who had the better career
at UH at Warwick.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
And that's because you know, Warrick had started at Tampa
in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (58:20):
I remember Dan, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
Well give us a good ass.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna go with. I'm
gonna go with Warck Done soon before what he does
in the community. I'm gonna start war work done a
bench at my bench Westbrook, and I love I love
du That's my boy, my new Orleans Saint Dogg.
Speaker 4 (58:45):
I'm gonna cut deuce.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
Damn Circase said, my guys, should Michael Parkson's plays sit
out until he gets his contract? Well, look, he's at
ot As. I don't know if he's doing it. I
don't know if he's like participating, but I know he
shows up. He's getting his work out in, probably doing
his conditioning, but he probably not doing anything on the field.
I think they're gonna get something done before he goes.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
He keeps telling them it is a David Muga letter.
Uh is his agent. Jerry is trying to get it.
You know, Hey, I cant talk to michaelh blah blah blah.
No you didn't you But he didn't do all this stuff.
He didn't do this with with that. He didn't try
to go to Dak say dad, let's work this contract out.
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He went through Todd Pratt.
Speaker 4 (59:29):
But he also also what he did is he waited
to the last minute.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
But I'm saying he trying to circumvent like he gonna
He didn't do that with Tony Romo. He didn't say, hey, Romo,
now all of a sudden he want to do that
about it is Mike ain't falling for it. If you
know Mike. No, he didn't do that with Mike. He
didn't do that with Mike. He didn't do that with Emmy.
He didn't do that with Troy. He didn't do that
with Time. I'm trying to figure out now why he's
trying to do this.
Speaker 4 (59:54):
If you know Michael personally, he ain't falling for that.
He's not falling for that now.
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Aaron Owens, can I get my birthday shout out? Is
my twenty ninth birthday? Aaron, Happy twenty ninth. Hopefully you
did so. I don't know if it was yesterday or
is it today, because if you're on the East Coast,
it's today or it was yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
But whatever the case may.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Be, hopefully you have a blessed and enjoyable birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Celebrate many more of these things.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Hopefully you did something fun got an opportunity to share
with family, friends and loved ones. So happy birthday, Eron
and thank you for sporting Nightcap. That completes this episode
of Nightcap. We want to thank our special guests Tron Armstead,
the pro bowler. He retired after years in New Orleans
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and Miami. He says, you know what, body just can't
take it anymore. I got a standard in which I
played to I can no longer play at that level,
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After Game one of the NBA Finals, Indiana Pacers travel
to Oklahoma to take on the OKC Thunder. We'll see
you tomorrow after the game. I'm un he's ocho. See tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
The volume
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
The pass cornerback. J C. Horn went out from Pro
Football Focus of their top ten cornerback rankings. This is
what happens when you let nerds who never touched the
field feel like they no ball man. Pro Football Focus
rank him twenty fifth in the NFL said Horn is talented,
but it's struggled with injuries in the NFL, despite being
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the league's second highest pad corner. Horn ranks twenty third
in Pro Football Focus at advanced coverage grade over the
last three seasons and twenty third in standard PFF coverage
grade of seventy nine point six across the past two
sauss Gardner's won, Pat ser Taddy's two, Trent McDuffie is three,
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Jalen Johnson, Darryl Stanley Jr.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's five.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
DJ Reid is six, Marlon Humphrey is seven, Kristin Benfred
is eight, jah Ere Alexander is nine, Denzel Ward is ten.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
In fact, let me let me tell you something.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
The fact that you know this list isn't correct, the
fact that Denzel Ward is all the way at ten.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
But then okay, let me ask you this, Oh Joe,
who you taking off this list and putting jac Horn
in front of what number.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Wait, see I needed I can't. I can't see that
from me, Run me, run me the first team real.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Quick assaults gone.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
There's one pass trip flip, but go ahead, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Trip.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
McDuffie is three, Kansas City, Jalen Johnson Barris four, Darryl
Stingley Jr. Tight Texans five. DJ Reed he's with the Lions, Knight.
If I'm not mistaken, he's with the Jets. Last year,
he's six, Marlon Humphrey, Baltimore Ravens seven, Kristin Bedford, Buffalo Bills,
Hey y'ah here, Alexander nine, Green bay Denzel Ward ten.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Now people on that list who you taking off and
putting them on.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I mean they disrespect. I've watched everybody. I watched everybody
who said play.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
And I'm not talking about just watching them on Sunday
them talking about I've seen film of them actually in
practicing what they've done, and I've seen the game film.
Now DJ Reid, I don't know much about. I don't
know much about DJ Reid. I'm gonna be honest. I
haven't seen him play. I haven't watched him. So if
I was to take anybody off it'll be DJ Reid.
Excuse me, I mean, no disrespecting Young Bull. I'm sure
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Young Bull is good because he's on there.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
For a reason. But I know and I've seen J C.
Horn play yeah consistently.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
I'm a big Stanley fan man Hey Stingy the real
deal way Stanley fann Man.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I love.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
I love the way the way you play.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
You know, he reminds me of like well football used
to be when I was in there watching it with
my grandpa as a kid.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
I love his in it you had to bring.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
But honestly, when he come to these lists, sometimes I'll
be trying to understand what's the criteria with some of
these things, Like what are they coming up with? Because
sometimes it felt like they picked somebody because they got
a bigger following on social media or something.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
It ain't got nothing to do with they ned, So.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
I'll be trying to figure out where where does this
stuff come from?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I agree with you, O Joe. I think Pastor Tan
for me, is the best corn in football.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Uh. Stingley obviously had a magnificent season.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Trent McDuffie, he's never made an All Pro team, don't
I think he's made one?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Let me take that back.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I think he's made one, but I don't think he's
ever made a Pro Bowl. Uh. He's sensational, especially in
the slot. Sauce, we know what saut Field. Sauce was
a defensive Rookie of the Year. All these guys are phenomenal.
We know Marlon Humphrey is not as its not what
he was was on the outside. But in that slot. Yeah,
Beffert really came into his own last year. We know
(04:00):
y'all here what he is, what he represents at Denzel,
a fluid, smooth transition.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Looks really honestly, I mean no disrespect what Denzel. Denzel
is top five right now. I'm talking about in the
entirety of the league. You know, forget this list.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I understand.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
I think he top five, oh chart.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Hey, when we talk about a technique merchant, I'm talking
about Okay, technive, it don't matter, it don't matter who
he playing. Well, he can party, and he's switching up
based on who he playing against, too. He gonna play
everybody different. So I'm sitting there watching him depending on Okay,
let's say when they play the Bengals fences the way
he played T Higgins, he played Chase different and I'm
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sitting here watching this man I'm talking about it's like art.
It's like watching art because he had a different post
depending on who it is every single time. Then the
naked eye, the casual fan can't see it, but I'm
looking at it. I'm like, what the and I'm in
to my to me, hey, I'm him like Seim, I'm
looking like but damn. The defensive coordinatoring in Cleveland and
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Cleveland give him that much freedom to be able to
do stuff like that. Normally, when you get out there
and lineup, you line up the same way the same
time based on the coverage, the coverage of the defense
that's called.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Now, what you like, how you think you would have
reacted if he would have been guarding you? What you
would have did too?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I would have turned that twenty one to twelve.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
With me.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
I respect Hey, listen, I told I forgot where was at.
Might have been Super Bowl or something, or I sat
there and told him. I told him about plays.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
He did though.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
He is a tremendous man, the man corner boy, especially him, Bump.
I talk about technical signing when the ball is now.
He never paned man. He played up all your elite
ball skills him and stingy, but got some of the
best ball skills along with certain I've ever seen brouh.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
No, That's why I like Stanley so much, for exactly
what you just broke down. And that's why I got
quiet because you speaking from experience. I'm speaking from a
so you looking at it from you actually playing the game.
I'm looking at it as a fan. But what I
see with Stantley is kind of what you just explained.
He plays different players difference. He can kind of play
both sides of the field. He get to it, he
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get off his line fast, So I rock with him.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He nice.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, I like God. I like God to travel.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Uh. You know, you look at Sauce and Pat, they're
kind of more They kind of like the tall angular guys.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Pat sirs had is so smooth.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
He transitioned extremely well, the way he can flip his hips.
For a guy his size, it's hard pressed and you
probably won't find a guy because.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Sir Tanna's like six two.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean yeah, ain't no, ain't no, yeah, ain't no
six foot he's six foot no, no, no, he's six two.
Maybe even tall Denzel Wards maybe not that tall. But
they kind of got sauce. Pat and Denzel kind of
have the same body type. They're like Finn framed. But
(07:00):
but uh CD is like as good a technique for
someone he has good a technique like now Revers had
some techniques.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
I was just thinking about Daryl Reeves when you.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
When it comes to playing the position, when it comes
to playing dB, I've always said that.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I've been saying it for years.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I think dB is the hardest position on the field
outside outside of the quarterback. Reavers got the patience at
the line of scrimmage of Sally May because you know everybody.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Still owe them loans for years and years a year.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
That's the kind of patience I spoke God, that's kind
of patience Reavers got.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
You can take all the moves you want.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
He not moving, He's not budging until you go.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Move.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You forget it.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Might he might not bite the second move.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Doc Hey, O Joe, you can, Oh Joe, you could
do all this right, You do it all this right
here that you will.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Still waste because your waist ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Shout out to Josh Norman too, man, Josh, you need
to lock there as well.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Jared Verus troll pooking the coure for looking like Lord Farquhar.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Watch this, y'all, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
We have famous people in the building now, scheg it out,
schigure it out, schig it out.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, Lord Funk partners, Mom got Lord Funk. That's that's
what it's all about. That's what Joe, that's what you missed.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
All that joney that goes on in the Ota, that
goes on in mini camps and training camps and all
this is what you missed.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You can't where're gonna get this from, Joe? When you
leave the game, where you're gonna get it from, You're
not gonna be around.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
It's impossible. It's impossible.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
You try to listen, you try to recreate it with
your friends that have nothing to do with the game
of football that you've known all your life, but it
would be I feel like being in that locker room.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Nope, all right, Sember, we're gonna get to your favorite
We're gonna get to some NBA news.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Five seasons with the Knicks, Tom Fibodeaux went to twenty
six and one seventy four led the Knicks to the playoffs.
Four times, including back to back fifty win seasons, including
Eastern Conference Finals appearance for the first time in twenty
five years, advanced to and they advanced to the East Finals.
That wasn't enough, even Rick Carlisle said today, when I
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first saw it, I thought it was one of those
fake AI things.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
No way, there's no way. Simber when you.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
First heard the news, you read it, he's like, man,
they fired TIBs.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
What went through your mind?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (09:43):
I kind of expected it. I kind of expected it.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I feel like Tibbs And no disrespect to TIBs because
he's a legend, but I feel like his style of
coaching is a bit outdated. I feel he kind of
looks for things that the game doesn't call for anymore,
and he doesn't really go deep into his bench, and
by the time his players get to the fourth quarter,
they gassed. And we kind of seen that in the playoffs.
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We've seen Indiana kind of running him back and forth.
He tried to get deep in the bench. In basketball,
just like football, anything of sports, it's a game of rhythm,
you know what I mean. So you can't just throw
somebody in the playoffs when they ain't been playing all season.
In the third quarter and expect them to knock down shots.
So I think Bruntson could definitely benefit from a different coach.
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The Knicks could. And I don't see I've seen what
you guys are saying the other night. I don't see
why Tim's kind of brought Caddy in if they had
the same issue back in Minnesota. I kind of don't
get where that came from. But I think the call
was a good call. It might be a bit confusing,
but I think it was a good call.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Hey, and the wake up oh you read this, and
the wake of Tims fired. More reports have come out
about the Knicks coaching staff. Multiple Knick players have reportedly
been unhappy with the presence of assistant coach Rick Brunson,
who happens to be the dad of Jalen Brunson per Hoops.
While multiple Nick players have been unhappy with the presence
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of assistant coach Rick Brunson, who happened to be the
father of star point guard Jalen Brunson, what that issue
is exactly has not been determined. Those sources suggest that
Rick has too big of a say in things.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well is he probably gonna be the interim coach or
maybe the coach said that step.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Now they're gonna have a new coach. He ain't gonna
be there in them, he ain't gonna be nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
So you don't think.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I don't think. I don't think they're gonna give him
the job. I don't think if they would have better,
I think Leon Rose and Worldwide West, who runs the
Knicks for Dolan? They're looking, Is it gonna be Bootenholzer,
Is it gonna be local? Is it gonna be you
know one of these guys? Uh uh? What's Mike.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
And Letter say? The funny thing about it is is Timms.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Tims led the the Knicks to one of their greatest
not greatest season, but he took them very far. It's
been a very very long time since they've been in
a game of that magnitude or a series of that magnitude.
And when you look at the records of the past coaches,
I mean, he's done the best.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Again.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I agree with see him based on what out come.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
You know, the little bit of basketball knowledge that I
do have is he does running players into the ground,
and they wore tie it. They were tired, especially when
they got to the back end of the season. The
back end of the series. Yeah, them boys ain't had
no legs.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
But let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Okay, it's like, oh man, they lost to they lost
to the uh, they lost to the Pacers. Had they
had they lost to Boston, would you're still a fired
Because I think the thing is maybe maybe beating the
beating the Celtics, who's the defending champs, Maybe that set
them unrealistic expectations because now, man, we knocked off Jason
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Tatum and Jaylen Brown, the team that won the champions
just a year ago, won sixty games, and now we
lose to the Pacers. But if you go back to
look at the places, they got five six guys and
double figures every game. That's what they do. They're committee.
So you don't know who gonna light your ass up.
For one or two games. It might be si Okam.
Another game, it might be niemanth another game, it might
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be Halliburton. So you you it's hard for you to determine, well,
who do we take away?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Who do we take away? So I think that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I think once they beat the Celtics, everybody's like, oh Nick,
oh man, Nick going to the finals. Yeah, oh, we
got the Pacers. The Pacers just beat y'all last year
in Game seven on y'all home court.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I was one of them people too, right there.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
My bad. This was this was this was a worst
matchup for the next because the thing that the Pacers
do the Knicks don't do well is get back on defense.
If you look at the Pacers, they're looking to run,
make or miss. They'll take it out, take it off
the rim, or take it out the net. You saw
the last game on Joe the Dicks make a basket
and in one past they Pascal Siacame is euro step
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and laying.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Them all up up the floor.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So and you look at it. So now you got
Cat and people can play. They were complaining about Cat
playing defense, when if you known Cata the defensive guys.
So what you gave up getting Michael Bridges all those
draft picks, you weaken your bitch, and in the process
of weeking your bitch, now you got the ride. Guys
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got to play guys extending minutes in the regular season,
and you overload.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Them come playoff time.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
He expanded it, but if you remember the first Coming series,
he was only playing seven guys and then it got
to the point he played eight nine guys, it's too late,
too late.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Agree.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I agree, I think and New York might tear me
up for this, but I think Boston lost that series
more than New York won it. And what I mean
by that was, we didn't see great coaching from Tims.
In the first two games. We seen Boston get comfort
the bull and the Knicks make an incredible comeback twice.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
We didn't see great coaching and great tactics.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
And I think Boston kind of just like what you
just said, how the Knicks felt about the Pacers felt
that way about the Knicks, like, oh, we got the Knicks,
we got this, it's easy, and they kind of got comfortable,
let their feet off the gas, and they suffered in
the long run.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, what happened was that they're shooting all them damn threes,
and you see what happened. Now, when you make them,
that's great, But what happened when you miss them? And
now they don't because they've been so successful making those
threes come crunch clutch time, they can't run no sets.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
They still jacking them a bunch of threes. And you
see the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Operating every time, they getting lay up, they getting whatever
they want to get. Man, I mean teams like with Damn,
I probably we should We probably should have lost to
the sel Things because I do believe, and I could
and I could be totally wrong, Sam, but I believe
because they beat the Celtics they had unrealistic expectations.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
They thought they were gonna have a cake walk to
the NBA Finals.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Yep, I totally agree with that. Let me ask you,
guys this, where do you see Tibbs going? And what
do you think is the nixt head coach for the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
He Well, you got some guys out there.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You got Mike Malone, you got Bootenholzer, you got Frank Vogel.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Hell, give Sam can sale chance. You know what about
Mark Jackson?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Bring Mark back?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
He played in the guard. He's from New York. Uh,
I'm trying to think who I'm trying to think Who's
who's a hot hotare Stephen Smith? Steven Day and tried
to Steve They tried to coach no basketball.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I was like, look, I.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Mean, Sam, Mark Jackson, even hell, you don't even hear
Mark Jackson ain't even mentioned for coaching.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Yeah, it feels like they completely pushed Mark Jackson out.
I think Mike Loan would be great for New York.
I think his style of coaching would be great for
the city. It'd be great for Brunton. But I also
think they got to bring somebody else in there that
can knock down some shots. So Brunson ain't controlling the
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ball so much because I feel it slows the offense
down when he's doing that in the fourth quarter, and
sometimes when Anononobe is getting going, or Cat might be
getting gone, or Bridges might get going. Now Brunton kind
of comes in and he takes the next four shots
and it kind of gets everybody out of rhythm. So
I definitely think they got to bring in another ball
handler or score or something to help complete it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Hey, what about the name mentioned I Doka, Jason Kidd.
Both of those guys have current jobs. Jay R. Brown
former coach Walk Mike Brown like Luke walking that now.
I just saw him on somebody. If you with the Cavs,
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I saw him somewhere.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
New York could tell Luke Walton up on.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
The pistols. Yeah, that's why Jammie bicker Staff.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But you got Bootenholzer who lost the job got a job,
got fired. You have Vogel who had a job, got
a job, got fired. Mike Brown got fired after he
had just signed the contract extension. Budenholder had another four
years left on his contract. Vogel had another four years
left on his contract, I mean eight. Matter of fact, it.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Feels like the last ten years of coaches of the
year got fired.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It got to be the right coach to to deal
with that New York atmosphere. Everybody ain't built flat, definitely.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
H Draymond Green says he was rather losing the first
round than the NBA finals. Black Sports Online tweeted about
Draymond comments, said, I can call this my Lebron theory,
and you.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Can use it for any elite player.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It is better to go undefeated in the finals then
and go to a bunch of finals and lose. If
Lebron was pouring on in the finals of the pools
to four and six, would the perception be different if
the same thing was really symbol What do you think?
Speaker 7 (19:11):
I agree? I want, I want thousand percent agree. Man.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
It's it's that's a tough thing to do, right. You
gotta think about you guys played professional sports. Think about
all the thing that goes on from on the field
off the field, right, and to win a championship or
even to get to the finals playoffs let alone, y'all
got to be on one accord, you know. So to
constantly keep getting there, that shows the signs of greatness.
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Whether you keep failing or not, you still keep getting there.
Everybody like to talk about Mike getting there six times
and him winning the six rings and everything like that,
but he also had a road of trying to get there.
That was a process. Lebron kind of got there a
little faster. So I agree with him.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, because Lebron before and knowing the finals as opposed
to four and six now, that's still four wins.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
If you have people say le Bron got five rings,
if you ask me, I count that in season tournament.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Sim Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Lebron
got four rings in twenty two seasons.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
They're gonna say, what do you do in the other
eighteen seasons? Go to the finals? So I get it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's just like, look, social media and social media has
its place.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
It's done a lot of good.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It's made a lot of people famous, it's made a
lot of people wealthy beyond expectations. But I think the
thing is is that now everybody is a general manager,
everybody is a coach, everybody is a player personnel direct
that everybody is a former NFL player, or former NBA
player or MLB player, and so it gives everybody. Everybody
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has an opinion now, whereas before a lot of these
guys it'll been very injury. If let's just say we started,
we're gonna start social media in the eighties and.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Everybody could have an opinion.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
When Jordan was getting bounced in the first round, I
wonder how they would take that if he's the best
player and he to go, because they're crying him to
go to nineteen eighty nine they said he's the greatest
players we've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
With no finals appearances.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
And the crazy thing about that, I just seen something
the other day. I think, what was it NBA did
to deal with NBC in eighty nine or something like that,
So we didn't even get to see like those first
couple of years of July. Where's the tape of everybody
talking there like we see highlights, Like we didn't get
to see everything.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So it's like, no, you didn't see you didn't see
basketball game.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
There was not a whole lot of you didn't get
a child for you to watch basketball during the week.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
You watched basketball on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Got you now once the playoffs started, okay, that was
a different story. But I grew up in the era
where the games would tape the lay even the NBA Finals,
the playoff with tape the lady, you didn't get an
opportunity to see those.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So and when it first started, the first round was
the best two out of three. You win two games,
and then you advanced, and then you went to the semifinals,
and if you won three out of five, the best
of seven wasn't to the conference finals and the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
And it used to be you.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Got three shots to make two by the free throw line,
so once you got to the bonus, you got three
shots to make two. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
See, I think bron Bron would have dominated in that era.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
It's just like if we look at it, like the
role Lebron had to travel, Right, we're talking about somebody
that's coming in from high school eighteen eighteen years old,
all his criticism on him, and this is like when
the internet is kind of coming into his age, absolutely
got an opinion on him. Mike didn't necessarily have to
deal with that type of pressure. Now, Mike did deal
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with people outside the hotel rooms waiting. No, I mean
newspaper articles. But like you just said, with social media today,
it's one thing. It's a bittersweet thing. Everybody has an opinion,
but everybody opinion is invalidated because they haven't done it right.
I can't come to you and tell you I think
you wrong about anything in football.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
I ain't never played in the NFL. Who am I
to tell you?
Speaker 6 (23:21):
As a fan, I could give you my opinion, and
that's what I always try to speak.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
From from a fan perspective.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Right when we're.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Talking about people that did it at a high level,
sometimes you just got to shut up, you know what
I mean, and listen to what the greats is seen.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I mean, it's not very often that an eighteen year
old gets to come in he's the number one overall
pick and they're handing the keys to the franchise. They said, okay,
we're gonna go. We're only gonna go as far as
you take us. And now he didn't have a whole
lot of experience. He didn't get an opportunity to go
to college and learn on a legendary coach.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
He didn't. I mean, think about what he had.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
He came from a single parent home and he bounced around,
so everything that you see, he's kind of like had
to had to get it on his own, like tal
and he hadn't had you know, Uh, he hadn't had
any missteps for the most part. Yeah, you could say
people like, well, what about what about the decision? Well,
the Girls and Boys Club got five hundred thousand. That
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wouldn't have missed that exactly because guess what, somebody wanted
to hear it. I tell you what, if you think
it's missed that, if he wasn't who he was, tell
somebody else to have a decision, Yeah, and see how
they get covered.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Yeah, I'm totally with you. I think, in my opinion,
bron is the greatest to ever do it. I think
he went up against some of the greatest talent, right
like Dwight Howard, We're talking about Baby Shack and his prime, Like,
you gotta go up against that seven games, right, you
gotta go up against the San Antonio Spurs.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
So he beat the Spurs you.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Know what I mean, Like they had to go up
against the Dallas Mavericks, who was incredible. We may not
look at them as the most athletic team with them
as a team, the Dallas Mavericks around that time, they
were incredible. And then to top it off, Kevin Durant
the Warriors. Yeah, you know what I mean, everything we
had to go up against.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Where would you And that's what I always tell people
of all the NBA champions where would you rank that
seventeen eighteen Warriors team? How many teams in history would
you have over them that. Let's just go back to
the nineties. When Jordan won his championships. What team did
he face? Was the seventeen eighteen Warriors for the Seattle No?
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Was it Utah?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Was it Portland? Was it Phoenix? I'm just trying to
figure out. And so you looking at it, look, I
mean think about it. On that team you got Steph
and Clay, I mean Stephan Draymond All seventy five team.
You look at Portland, not Portland, San Antonio, Tim Duncans
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All seventy seventy fifth Anniversary team, Kawhi seventy fifth anniversary team.
Uh mine was not a seventy fifth anniversary guy is
I don't think so Tony Parker's Tony Parker won. I
don't think Tony Parker won. Yeah, But but they make
it seem like the the only, the only, the only,
the only team that I.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Think they should have beat.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
But when you go back and look at it, the
Mavericks swept, see people sweep this out of the rug.
Sim that Mavericks team swept the Lakers team that had
just went back to back.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
I just said, we we forget about that because they
weren't the most sexy, they wasn't athletic, but that was
a great team.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
They swept the Lakers that had just went back to back.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
They had a gentleman's sweep on OKC.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
But still, for me, I think that was the only
time that that Lebron has probably been favored and he
didn't win, and.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
It's it could have.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
It was a thing I truly believe of him and
d Wade didn't know who team it was yet, so
I think that case, I think they was looking for
each other the lead and kind of who was going
to take the lead, and it was kind of getting
too late by that time.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
The Mavericks had already won two games.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Right, Adam Silver on the NBA All Star Game next
season and the Clippers into it. Don't the All Star
Game will feature some form Team USA versus Team World.
All Star Game now will be in the afternoon instead
of the evening.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
You like that change, Sam.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
I feel like All Star Game is it's been a tragedy.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
The past few years.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Oh man, it's been a tragedy.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
And I think when things keep becoming a tragedy and
you keep trying things and it's not.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Working, just go back to the original way.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Just go away.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
But the thing is, though, to them, they don't play anymore,
see them, I don't want to see no games team
in the NBA. They scoring two hundred points, Sam, But
you know now all of them is dunks and threes.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
They ain't playing no defense.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
But you know why that is?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Hunh?
Speaker 7 (28:17):
You know, like I know, those weekends ain't about the
game no more.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Nah, part of the city it used to be about
the game.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
They not coming in there.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Anthony Edwards had about nine events on Saturday, seven, on Friday, three,
on Thursday, a brunch on Sunday before the game. I'm tired, man.
They got me doing all this. So they got a
final way to bring the events kind of down, a
little bit of something to get these players time to
kind of enjoy their families, enjoy their week off, and
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show up on Sunday raid to play and play.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
They gotta play. But oh ya, I said this.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I remember when I when I saw this thing going
left with the Pro Bowl, I said, they're gonna cancel
this before you know. Nah man, Now, I said, I'm
telling you, they not finna keep paying y'all this money
they paying y'all.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Oh jo they payed them one hundred thousand just to compete.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I remember, and we was, oh, Joe, you went shortly
after I left the league, y'all probably was making fifteen
twenty five tops.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
It wasn't that much.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Now they mak it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Now you get eighty, you get a one hundred thousand
if you win, you get fifty seventy five thousand if
you lose.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Ain't got Now they out there playing touch football.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Now they've turned it into a flag football, and they
got all these festivities where you know, you try to
hit the bulls eye and you hit a movie like
come on.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
I was thinking back back then when we played on
I mean everything, it was about competing and it was competitive.
Maybe might have been an All Star game, it might
have been a Pro Bowl where you know those that
were selected. But when it was time to play man, hey,
Sam Boy, it was real. You know when Kobe and
them boy and then shock them boys when they made
off when it was they had All Star game, Oh
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they was finna play.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
I feel like too.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
It was a different level of focus in your time
because it wasn't so many distractions, so everybody was kind
of like zoned in on their craft, zoned in on
what it is they did. So when they came to
play with the OCHO right when Charles Woodson got a guard, Oho,
you want to prove his point out there?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
And I tried to prove mine.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, Now, I TOLDO, I said, look, when I went
across that water, I was looking to light somebody asked
up one on walk if I didn't want you to
think you get back to the mainland and could cover me.
You couldn't come me across the water. You can't come
me on the mainland. So don't you come with with
that bull drive NOWA that's but I was just like
and and and and and the thing is like you said,
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now it's a layup or three boy shot.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Oh, but I said, bro y'all, y'all quit the hollow. Jordan,
y'all quit the haller. Kobe, y'all don't say nothing about it.
When it comes to the All Star Game, y'all don't
mention Kobe or Jordan. But y'all quick, that's all about
They was killers. Yeah, okay, when y'all goosed to be
turning some killers of the doll Star Game.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Yeah, I think it's just a different time now.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Unk.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
Like, Man, I've seen this.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Shout out to Jason Crow Junior, a young player coming
up out here in California. I went to one of
his games, and I've seen a few players and they
was just talking and one of these kids was like,
as long as I get.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
An nil deal, I don't even work worry about going
to NBA.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Yeah, And I was like, man, like, the competitive nature
of just grinding and wanting to achieve your goal and
that process is gone now because these kids getting so
much money. You go to some of these colleges, the
parking lot look like a Ben's dealership, like it does.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
It's different.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It ain't it, ain't no more, ain't no more scat pass,
no hell cast and all the track halts, them jokes
got ferrari, they got lamboles, they got colored in there.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I'm like Daniel, listen, Sam, that's a that's a short dream.
You short changing yourself. The big dream, the big money.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I mean it's a n I l A that's gonna do.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
That's good money. That hey, that hold yo, I'm trying
to get the fifty set up.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
There got the mill until you see everybody else you
played with getting two hundred fifty million and you talking
about some man.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
She speaking speaking of that quick question for both of you.
What's something from you guys's childhood that fueled you'll work
as it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I ain't have no running water, that'll do it.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Going outside with the mosquitoes biting you, and you gotta
take raid and spread to keep the mosquitoes off you,
and you gotta put a you gotta put an overcoat
on to go go out in the woods. That a
motivation you. You ain't got no indoor plumbing, you ain't
got no running water, you ain't got no air condition.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
That a motivation you?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You? I mean you go like a warehouse and they
got seamen floors. That's what we had. That a motivation.
You got a tin roof and you can look up
and you can see the sun. That a motivation. Sometimes
an empty stomach, it's all the motivation you need.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I had kids early, bro, I had kids early, and
obviously my dream. My dream was to play in the NFL.
And I put in too much work as a little shorty,
as a legit.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I had to make it. I told myself, I'm gonna
make it to the league.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
I remember telling coaches in high school, remember telling teachers
I was gonna make it. They told me I was never.
I never was gonna mouthed nothing. I needed that he
gave me and gave me a little chip, So I'm
gonna make it. Obviously, and having kids early shady, I
got to take care of these kids.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
He had no choice. And I wanted to be good
at my craft. I wanted to be good. I didn't
need the best.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
But whenever I left the game, people gonna say, boy,
he was one of the one of the best to
ever played.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
That that was that was motivating.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
An empty stomach and an empty wallet. What more motivation
you need?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
With fact?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
And they ain't need somebody else too.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
You know what you need? That's it. Your Grandma's like
a hey boy, ain't got no lights. I ain't got
no phone, the phone off because you can't pay a
fifty dollar phone bill and they ain't got no lights.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
So you know you gotta you gotta.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
My grandma gotta jug some stuff around and you gotta
make it do until she can come up till the
next payday. Yeah, oh yeah, all right, son, you got
to go go out there and get some ads because
we ain't got no eggs. So now we got to
go out there and get eggs. You gotta find agg
you got to run the gens off.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
The eggs man.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
You know that I hate sem and it's people that
you know it needs to be done right, but you're
with your friends to do it. Like there's no self motivation.
You can't get nothing done unless somebody else is doing
it with you. But that means you fooling yourself, you fully.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
And I used to I used to have that same problem.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
I used to have that same problem because I was
afraid of feeling, and I was afraid of feeling by myself.
So I was like, I either want to win with
somebody or we fail together. And one thing I had
to learn is like that don't bless me, you know
what I'm saying. So you might bring in the wrong person.
You might have the wrong person that you're trying to
walk into a situation that he don't belong in.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
And it's like, God ain't.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Gonna grant you what you looking for because you bringing
you bringing damaged goods to the table of what I'm
trying to set for you. So I had to I
had to learn how to develop that confidence for myself
of just sitting in that studio writing and being in
this room and you know, looking at my son in
the face like I'm doing it for you, bro, I'm
not doing it too because I'm afraid no more or
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bringing all these people with me for validation because I'm
afraid of what might happen if they're not there. Like now,
you got to get up and go do it. If
you failed, just fall forward and get up and keep going.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, I remember happening when I had dreams about being
something and it wasn't a whole lot of people in
my dream. I'm like, well, damn, I guess he tried
to tell me something m I wasn't supposed to bring
a whole lot of people with me.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
M oh Man.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Even even the biggest planes can only carry so much
of a load. Even the biggest planes, oh Joe, even
with the biggest cargo planes, there's only they can only
carry so much.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Oh, that's so that's so true.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
My mom.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
My mom says something to me the other day to
stick with me. I was telling her she was trying
to introduce me to somebody, and I was like, my
own't even like meeting too many people no more, because
they come around with these expectations and they think you're
supposed to do something. And I remember wanting to be
in this space and be like, when I get my shot,
I'm never gonna be mean or turn people down.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
I'm gonna take every picture. But people take that for granted.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
And my mom says, I was like, it's hard for
me to get along with people to now I feel
like they don't understand me. And my mom said, uh,
she said, she said, when you growing, she said, it's
not that people don't love you. When you're growing, you
hard to understand. Right, If someone hasn't tried to grow,
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you're going to always be hard to understand because they
stuck at where they at and you're trying to go
somewhere else, and they may see that as all you changing,
and because you not adopting the ideologies they have now,
you feel like they feel like you devalue them when
it's just like, nah, bro, it might be a better
way we could grow together. So that's something I had
to learn right there.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Uh, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
It's tough because you know, a lot of times you
want to the people that were around when you didn't
have anything. But a lot of times those people their
minds doesn't grow like yours grow. They think just because
they're around, they're supposed to always be around. But at
some point in time you can look. I understand, but
there has to be value that comes along with something.
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The New Orleans Pelicans will continue to move forward with
Zion Williamson as the face of their franchise. Per Joe Dubars,
I've had some real artist conversations with him, some real
direct and honest conversations. We're going forward with Zion. He's
going to continue to be the focal point as we
go forward.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Sim Since Zion and Milwaukee, man, you gotta you gotta
get it. Not for your honest let him go play
with you, but you gotta get him out of New Orleans.
You got all that good food out there. You gotta
what's that place? Dragons?
Speaker 7 (38:26):
They got that, the big oysters over there. You got.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
The crab, the crab.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Oh my god, you got all that good food. Man,
get Zion where they got vegan options.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
You gotta get him.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
You gotta get him out of New Orleans immediately. I
think the run is done. I think that the time
has come for them to kind of blow this thing
up and let him move on.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
It's over with.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Oh Joe, Hey, you know, we we talked about Zion
in length, you know, for a very long time now,
and he hasn't spoken at all.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
You know, We've all had our opinion.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Obviously. I want to see him playball. Whether it's New Orleans,
I don't care. I don't care where it is. I
just want to see him on the court because I
know what he can do once he's out there, when
he's healthy. Whether whether it be New Orleans, I'm not
sure what's gonna happen. You know how this business works,
and mostly the players have all the levers. So unless
he says he doesn't want to be there. He's going
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to be a Pelican. If he's going to be there,
I just want to see him on the court. Pro
that's it.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's hard to give up a superstar, trade a superstar
unless you're going to get one back in return.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
And that's why the star, he's a star. I'll be
a star player.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I mean, it looked we had they like, damn, we
had a D, we lost a D and the next
year we get Zion.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Ain't nobody, ain't no stars coming to New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
And so that's why when these small market team when
they when they land one of these big fish, they
try to hold on to him as long as they
possibly can. That's why Milwaukee bending over backwards, trying to
make sure, what do you need you need ten Harley
Davidson's we'll get them for you. What do you what
do you need? You need an Airbnb and and and
and and and believe we'll get it for you. Because
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think about it, you go Kareem and then Kareem leaves.
I think in like seventy six, seventy five, seventy six,
it's thirty years before you get Yannis. So it's not
You're not La. You got Will, you got Jared West,
you got el Jim Baylor, you got Kareem, you got Magic,
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you got James Worthy, you got Kobe, you got Shot,
you got Lebron, you got a d Now you got Luca.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
It don't work like that for it don't work like
that for everybody, see elf.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, So when I get a guy, I'm gonna do
everything I possibly can.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
So Cleveland got Lebron. They a.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
You want to build us? You want you to be Okay,
we'll build our trainshial close to where you living Afrod Okay, cool,
no problem. You want access, no problem. You want your
mama to sit here, no problem? Because what's the likelihood
of you ever getting another Lebron James? If you Cleveland.
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So with that being said, you move heavy and earth
and you do everything you can to make sure they're happy. Look,
I agree with you, o, y'all. I just wanted to
be healthy. I wanted to be healthy for two years
in a row because I believe he can turn the corner.
Because Aillan can't be more than what twenty five, yeah,
twenty four, twenty five.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
He's some He's somewhere around there. Somewhere.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
But I'm telling you, Unk, in order to keep them healthy,
you gotta get them out of New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Man.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
You gotta get them some vegan options. We gotta get
them some Asai bowls. We gotta get them healthy out there, Unk, Like,
we all want to see them ball, we want to
see them play, but it's always been a dilemma and
they just they can't seem to get it together.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Well, good luck with that, Joe, dude. Look, Joe Dubars
has been around the game. He been I mean, he's
been around the game forty plus years. He's played with
some great players. He put some teams together, and so
we'll see what he can do. Euro Cup champion Tel
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Aviv are expecting to make Russell Westbrook an offer never
before seen in European basketball. Should russ accept the money
or stay? Basically, he's gonna be on a mid level
or a minimum contract. O Joe, sim does he take
the big dollars to go overseas or does he stay
right here?
Speaker 4 (42:46):
You say big dollars? How much are you talking?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I mean, I mean, in order to make it make sense,
it's probably gonna need to be twelve fifteen millis.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Not well considered he make four five million in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Hell no, absolutely not, not for someone of his caliber.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
What's the most money somebody's made the European basketball? Can
we find that we need to get We need a
AI anybody want to advertise so we can just pull
that up and it just pop up on my screen.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
So no, I think I don't think Russ need the money. Man,
you know, Russ is invested in a lot of.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Don't need the money.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
Yeah, I don't think he'll go out there and play
for the money.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
And then he don't want to be away from his family.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
He ain't move with his family overseas.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
I think it's white the name. He got kids, he
got twins, and that not he going.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Uh, absolutely not makes no sense. And they couldn't offerim.
They couldn't offer him enough.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Oh hell now, the most money anybody's ever made in
Europe is four million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
It's over that. They might as well.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
They might as well get that to me.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yuh, look, get up to me.
Speaker 7 (44:01):
I go out there, give them twelve or ten.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
I give him am.
Speaker 8 (44:06):
Hey, you know it can get crazy. Now if the
Saudi's had a league. Now they oh like they like,
they got like they got they could pull you, they
could pull some NBA players and fire of there.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Oh yeah you see what Renald over getting man? Please
two hundred million a year? Hey yeah, Lebron to leave
for two hundred million a year.
Speaker 7 (44:29):
A year, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, I going over there, Hey, going over there for
a quick for five.
Speaker 7 (44:37):
Years there are here, unc I ain't never coming back.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah, a matter of fact, getting me with no tax
I don't think. I don't think. You probably don't play
taxes on it. And they gave a jet and they
gave him uh uh, what's it called, like a car everything?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, they gave a house.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Yeah, and that money over the different man, they got it.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
They got it, big money.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Sam. But check this out. Apparently, Oh Joe was in
the gym today and he was tossing around some one twenties.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Apparently we got video evidence we got here.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Hey, I'm strong.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
I'm just trying to figure out. I don't see no
sing I got we got to zoom in. We gotta
see it the one twenty because.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Them could be damn them damn weights bigger than my
damn chest.
Speaker 9 (45:33):
Somebody you know what big Yeah, there was some big weights. Okay,
oh yeah, yeah, I'm strong now, I'm strong.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
I just like this.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
For it's a it's a life finding. No, we don't
do anything less than sick.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
We don't do anything when I go in there tomorrow, right,
Tomorrow's legs for me, right, but Sam, just for him,
I want to show him.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
I saw Aaron.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Donald doing one thirties, right, so I'm like, okay, Aaron don'
doing on thirties. I know I could do one twenties.
I could do five. So tomorrow I'm gonna go to
one forties. I'm gonna do a set while I'm fresh.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
You ain't gonna do nothing to me.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
You told me I couldn't do one twenties and I
just gave you five right there. But he did it
on the incline, do the in class.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
This is mean.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Look what you mean?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
What the difference?
Speaker 3 (46:32):
It's me? It's me.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
I could do that.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Man.
Speaker 5 (46:35):
You keep telling me what I can't do, and I
keep showing you I could do it. You told hey, Sam,
you're gonna see me tomorrow, right. I'm opposing Tomorrow's leg day.
But I just want to show un I could do
one forties and I'm gonna do it on inclan because
he just told me I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
He He sounded like my teachers in high school. They
told me. Now I'm on nightcap.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
I mean, there it is.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
He said, he go do it tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
I would let it. I would let him have it.
He gonna catch me.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I'm gonna sneak in the Florida one day and catch
him in the gym. Let everybody see what I for.
What they do? It real bad?
Speaker 7 (47:11):
What you what you're putting up in there? What you're
looking like?
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Nothing?
Speaker 5 (47:16):
We didn't Listen, we live the same amount of weight.
And no, we're about the same size right now, but
we live the same amount of weight. Uh Sam, Still
right Sam? Right now, I lost I lost about twenty pounds.
They got a little something going on right now. But
give it, give it, give it, give it. Give me
a little bit of time. I'll get past that. I
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deal with you downed road.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
Listen, you done lost weight and I'm gaining weight. But
it's cool, That's okay.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I still I probably still could do those one twenties.
I ain't at the one fifties like I used to be.
But give me, give me fifties.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
You do one fifties, Okay, then I do one fifties tomorrow,
just to show you where I'm at. Man, you really listen, hey,
seem you know not on no funny ship. You could
see you can see the frame. Man, I'm sculpting like
a like a Greek, like a Greek god.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
Good, you really can't see it. And you know my
girl be tripping by having my.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Shirt Offso now I thought you. I thought you had
what you call him night cap tattooed on your chest.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Oh you got to.
Speaker 5 (48:19):
Hooeyut bad damn you? I was he really liked that
got tattoo. Yeah, hey, listen, I'm ready. I'm ready for
the summer, man, I said, when the summer start.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Summers June twenty, June twenty first, twenty second official a.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Boy from what you stopped.
Speaker 7 (48:45):
Summers.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Here, I see some nice soft legs today. Some's here
you see it? What some nice soft legs somesion, ain't
I appreciate. I appreciate y'all for having me. Man, big
fan of the show, as y'all already know. Love, We're
going up tomorrow for the NBA Finals. Shout out to
the Payoffs. Scouts Big Watch party tomorrow. Love what y'all
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doing here at Nightcap. Man, appreciate you, Oh appreciate you.
Y'all keep killing, Tell them where we can find you.
What are you on our I g we got a Facebook?
You got what you two? What you got going on?
Tell us where we can find you at the real
symbol on all platforms that's th h E R e
A L S y n b A. You can find
that amongst all socials. Men, and keep support Nightcap because
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we like to do something before to something.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
That's what I'm talking about, Sam. We appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Man, all the best, continued success when you get some
time stop back by gearing for us.
Speaker 7 (49:39):
Definitely will appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
All right, guys, Oh Joe, we're gonna get you out
of here on this one, and that's time for our
final seven of the evening.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
It's time for Q and eight. Hey gin.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Un thing but nice and clean and nice and slow too.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Quentin Mobley said, Oh Joe was having a season with
them one twenty dumb bells today that ball was shaking
worse than a woman in the area. Twenty nine hashtag
muchee him talking. They making jokes, but I wasn't shaking.
I was nice and slow and perfect form.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Shake it.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
I don't think you know it's funny. I think people
don't really understand how heavy that is. Huh. I mean
you you see it all the time, You've done it
all the time.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
But I think people that go to the Cancil gym
where they don't even have one hundred and twenty pounds dumb.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Bells, I don't think they understand how heavy that is.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
I'm really like that.
Speaker 4 (50:37):
I told you if she.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Ain't won eighty Uh, doctor Frankie L.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Bell, behave fam What's one thing today players do better
than your era, And what's one thing they'll never touch
from your generation?
Speaker 3 (50:50):
That part talent?
Speaker 2 (50:51):
That yeah, it's called it's called technology.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Show what happens.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
They got better die, they got better training, they got
a better they got they got they started from a
better foundation. I do think we have a better appreciation,
but I ain't finn to see them say, oh, look,
there are certain players that were talented, but I'm talking
about overall the talent in all sports. Because they got
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better training, they got better nutrition, they got better technology.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Just the way it is.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
I mean, think about how Look. Think about when Tiger
Tiger nineteen ninety seven burst on the scene. Think about
how far he was hitting the golf ball. He's the
only one they could do it. Now they got twenty ball,
twenty guys, thirty guys. They can hit the golf ball
as far as Tiger. Look at the guys when we
were in Awe the way Reggie Miller and Larry Bird
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and Mark Christ them guys shot the ball.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Man they got got they got free folk. Guy of
a team that I shoot the cut off the ball.
It is what it is, Oh Joe, I accepted.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
I don't know if you know. Man, my generation we
did with did, but they got better technology. Now they
got more. It's called advancement. You know how I know.
Look at medicine. They don't do surgery the same way.
Oh Joe, ain't no guy missing. Your career is not
over when you have ACL Your career is not over
when you have the killes injury.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
I mean stuff that used to people were done. Now
guys come back.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Kevin. Look at Kevin Durrad. If somebody didn't tell you,
you wouldn't know. Kevin Durant came came up. The Achilles
injury Lady Red finally back, Uh, Lady Rad, Hey, guys,
love and Shallon's tea.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Who's your favorite Simpson character? Mine is Ralphy?
Speaker 1 (52:59):
Who Quo Bark Yeah, Holmer Bark Leaf, Marge.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
You can't name all of them. We say who's your
favorite one?
Speaker 3 (53:14):
But I'm just saying. Ashley was asking me, do I
know characters? Look?
Speaker 2 (53:20):
I like the Simpsons, American Dads? What about South Park?
Stewie give me, give me Stewie, give me Stewie.
Speaker 7 (53:29):
Story.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Funny you watch South Park? I watched a little bit
of You have a favorite character? You don't know most
of them?
Speaker 2 (53:37):
I don't really know the care I used to watch
what what's the one that come on m t V?
Beavers and Bad? So if I had to say Holmer Man,
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the Simpsons been, Oh damn the forty they was coming
on because.
Speaker 5 (54:06):
Funny and for some reason, the Simpsons are very good
at predicting history. But they they're close to it every time.
There ain't no goddamn coincidence every time. Nope, you're right,
here's her said Uncle Ocho. You were both leaders in
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your locker room. How would you have handled the Dolphins
bullying scandal? If that would have happened in your locker
rooms in devil Baltimore, Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
Well, first of all, that would have never happened. Ain't nobody.
Ain't nobody gonna be saying all that? What what happened?
Speaker 2 (54:42):
They said it wasn't bullying, but there was some racial
appitet being being thrown around in the locker room, not
to the extent of it. I don't know. I wasn't there,
but that ain't what we did.
Speaker 4 (54:53):
We're talking about bullying, win, I know.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
I guess a Richard Richard, Yeah, needle and and and.
Speaker 5 (55:02):
Madam bully, you've grown ass man man in the NFL,
you three hundred some pounds, talk about somebody book get
your ass.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Yeah, wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
But even if it wasn't bullying and wing'na, we ain't
gonna be hurling no racial lepodas.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
I don't remember that part. Okay, my bad mm hmm Lillie.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Well, look, holy they got it resolved. I mean, look,
our locker room was harmonious. Did did guys right there?
But the fall over you know, they fall in the
locker room. Damn training cap. We had to get Tracy.
You know, hey, you say the wrong thing or you
know something. You know. Hey, look, I think sometimes don't
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your people think because you make X amount of dollars
that some of the same things that will set somebody
off that doesn't make money.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
We'll set the person off that make money. And I'll tell.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
You, guys ain't gonna let there's a certain level.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
I don't care how big you are, how old you are.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Certain guy ain't gonna just let you blatantly disrespect them,
because no matter where you are, the number one currency
is respect. So Casey Taylor, start, Bench, cutt Duce mcauster,
Wark done, Brian m Brian Westbrook, this is for you.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Uh so ojoe, you got Duce mccollus to war.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
He said, he said, no, no, no, this is no
he said for you. I got Algiae, Crumpler, random, McMichael,
Chris Cooley. So I got the tight end, you got
the running backs. You want me to go first?
Speaker 4 (56:44):
Yeah'm gonna go first.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
You want me to go first, and you're going first.
I'm going first. Okay, I'll take you. I'll start Algia
crumpler six and one hand, half a dozen the other.
(57:10):
I guess i'd go McMichael, bench chairman and cut Cooley.
Speaker 3 (57:16):
But you can go either.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
I mean, I mean, I probably should start Bitch Cooley
and uh Randy McMichael.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
But I'll go I'll go Algaie Randy or Cooley.
Speaker 4 (57:28):
So I got Duce McAllister, walk Done and.
Speaker 5 (57:31):
Brian west Oh my god, Nah, it's my start is
out of Brian Westbrook and and work Done.
Speaker 4 (57:42):
I just I'm trying to figure out which one.
Speaker 5 (57:46):
Because Brian west very simple, egregrated to say the same thing,
very similar guy who was a little bit more dynamic.
Brian Westbrook was nice. Walk Done was nice as well.
They both laid the same and can catch the ball
out the backfield.
Speaker 4 (58:03):
Mccallouson was a big back.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
Uh huh, yeah, he is.
Speaker 4 (58:09):
A big boy. I wonder who had the better career
at UH at Warwick.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
And that's because you know, Warrick had started at Tampa
in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (58:20):
I remember Dan, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
Well give us a good ass.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna go with. I'm
gonna go with Warck Done soon before what he does
in the community. I'm gonna start war work done a
bench at my bench Westbrook, and I love I love
du That's my boy, my new Orleans Saint Dogg.
Speaker 4 (58:45):
I'm gonna cut deuce.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
Damn Circase said, my guys, should Michael Parkson's plays sit
out until he gets his contract? Well, look, he's at
ot As. I don't know if he's doing it. I
don't know if he's like participating, but I know he
shows up. He's getting his work out in, probably doing
his conditioning, but he probably not doing anything on the field.
I think they're gonna get something done before he goes.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
He keeps telling them it is a David Muga letter.
Uh is his agent. Jerry is trying to get it.
You know, Hey, I cant talk to michaelh blah blah blah.
No you didn't you But he didn't do all this stuff.
He didn't do this with with that. He didn't try
to go to Dak say dad, let's work this contract out.
(59:28):
He went through Todd Pratt.
Speaker 4 (59:29):
But he also also what he did is he waited
to the last minute.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
But I'm saying he trying to circumvent like he gonna
He didn't do that with Tony Romo. He didn't say, hey, Romo,
now all of a sudden he want to do that
about it is Mike ain't falling for it. If you
know Mike. No, he didn't do that with Mike. He
didn't do that with Mike. He didn't do that with Emmy.
He didn't do that with Troy. He didn't do that
with Time. I'm trying to figure out now why he's
trying to do this.
Speaker 4 (59:54):
If you know Michael personally, he ain't falling for that.
He's not falling for that now.
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Aaron Owens, can I get my birthday shout out? Is
my twenty ninth birthday? Aaron, Happy twenty ninth. Hopefully you
did so. I don't know if it was yesterday or
is it today, because if you're on the East Coast,
it's today or it was yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
But whatever the case may.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Be, hopefully you have a blessed and enjoyable birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Celebrate many more of these things.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Hopefully you did something fun got an opportunity to share
with family, friends and loved ones. So happy birthday, Eron
and thank you for sporting Nightcap. That completes this episode
of Nightcap. We want to thank our special guests Tron Armstead,
the pro bowler. He retired after years in New Orleans
(01:00:46):
and Miami. He says, you know what, body just can't
take it anymore. I got a standard in which I
played to I can no longer play at that level,
and the bear La base now talented. My boy Simba Sam.
Thanks for stopping by, man, We really really appreciate that.
Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.
(01:01:08):
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