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June 11, 2025 61 mins

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & special guest Dribble2much joins the show to talk about his NBA skills training career, Kyrie defends KAT & everyone’s favorite segment Spell-O-Cinco and much more!

01:47 - James Cook
03:00 - Kyrie: Leave KAT alone
08:30 - Wemby went to see monks
12:30 - Dribbles2much interview
34:33 - Rough Draft: Top Excuses to Cancel Plans
39:55 - Spello Cinco
46:50 - Dunk on Unc
57:30 - Q & Ayyyy

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume, Oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
According to Ian Rappaport, James Cook is president at Mandatory
Minicamp and that this seeks a new deal. James Cook
had a simple response to why I like my money.
That's why I'm here Cook, as he plans to fully
participate in training camp.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
They gonna they're gonna take care of him. They're gonna
take and listen at the running back position. You really
can't play that game with them.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Boy.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
No, I'm just being honest, but they do not play that,
even though I we view you thus on the outside
looking in and we view you as a tier one
running back along with Saquon and then McCaffrey and in
the boys. But you really can't play that. They already
don't value the position as it is as well as
you did for the Bills since you've been there. But
they will replace your ass quick and feeling. They can

(01:03):
put they can find someone else, they can do the
same stuff you can do. Nah, I don't do that.
Don't play that game. I'm glad.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm glad he's a mini camp.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm glad that manage.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, three day miss mini Camp over one hundred and
five thousand fins and listen. And you know, but back
back when you and I played ot yo, if you
got fined signed a new contract, the team could forgive
that fine.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Now they can't forgive a fine. Get it.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, you can't forgive it. Yeah, you don't play with
that money. He's gonna be all right. They gonna take
care of him, though, they gonna take care of me.
Gonna you gonna have to wait for it, but they're
gonna take care of me.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh Joe, Kyrie says, leave cat alone. Let's take a
listen to what Kyrie had to say today.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Far I forget y'all gotta stop making in front of
my brother Cat. I'm done with y'all. Stop making fun
of my brother Cat. It's over for that. It's a rap.
I'm letting y'all know. If you repost that shit again
or you meme them up, I'm attacking you. Not like
that physically in GTA, but I'm attacking all right. I'm
attacking y'all. Gotta leave Cat alone, Okay, because y'all don't

(02:01):
know what it's like to grow up in Jersey and
have all of these cultures that you're a part of.
Trust me on that. Jersey is literally one hundred and
thirty miles long. It is very very small state. But
when I get back to my point, I'm going to
explaining this to you, but I'm just saying, leave him alone,
all right, leave our Jersey like because he's Dominican, he's black.

(02:23):
He grew up in you know, a certain area in Jersey,
just like me, and you got to survive out here.
And you have many different demographics of people, so you
got to survive out here, all right. Sometimes I don't,
I don't agree all the time when he be you know,
changing up his tone. Sometimes I don't always agree and
all that shit, you know what I mean. That should
be funny. But on a serious note, he is a man.

(02:45):
He's my brother, and I protect him all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, that's what to be getting on it.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Okay, Hey, I like it.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
It's funny.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I like when you do it.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
I like listen.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I like when he be changing up, when he gets
voice out, Hey, Hey what do you say?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
What do you say?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Fo Hey? I like it. I like it.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I like him he changed his toe um sometimes to me,
it's funny. I like especially there was there was I
don't know whether TikTok or I saw it. On Twitter
where they asked New York they asked Knicks fans, give
it your back, give it your bush.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
And they were spot on.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Hey man, it was dog. I was in tears rolling.
I'm in tears rolling.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
So I listen.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I understand Kyrie saying that's his boy, his boy and all.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But he did from Jersey. It's all expectations. And you know,
you close to home is right across the bridge. I mean,
you know he grew up in that area. Yeah, I mean,
cad a lot going on. He was very he was
extremely close. When you say he was a mama's boy,
he was absolutely oney seventeen million percent of mama's boy.

(03:53):
They were close close and that it took him a
while to get over that. He spoke. You know, I
had him on the party. He spoke about that. I
like it, you know, get an opportunity to talk to
him off camera and just see his manner, hythms and
things like that. I like, I said, I like it.
Do I wish he would get down on the block more. Yes, yes,

(04:13):
And I think you know he did a little bit
more of that, uh in the series against Indiana.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Uh, he probably just you know, do that a little
more but he's a guy.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
He's very, very philanthropic, you know, you know, Joe and
some of the people say that they believe, they believe
he needs to get in better shape so he can
play defense a little bit better than what he does.
Considering he's seven foot tall and had what one block shot?
One block shot from game two to game five. That's

(04:47):
what accepted blow it is he's seven foot tall.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
You're right, you're right, But I know one thing Kyrie cannot.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Don't.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Don't stop him. Don't stop him from changing that tone up. Hey,
that junk is too funny, man, too funny? Oh my god, Hey,
well that baby funny boy?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Oh man, Wendy went to see monks this week, O Joe.
Check out this photo that's Wenby as a showling monk.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Hey, you talking about discipline and structure. I listen when
I na man, listen, if Wimby's gonna do anything, if
he ain't gonna do anything that is similar to what
the monks practice, maybe he might come back and have

(05:44):
fifty points a game.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Y'all. He need to go do a Kareem. You know,
Kareem went and trained with Bruce Lee real Jetsu. Yeah,
you don't remember he was at the movie end of
the Dragon.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Oh that's right, tall lass.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right,
you're right.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's why. Ain't nobody messed with Cap? Ain't nobody messing
with James Johnson?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Sure, James Johnson. Oh that played with the heat.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, he was here in there. Now, if I mess
with Cap, Cap do that thing?

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Man.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Okay, he got with him a black belt.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I think he has a black belt in Kareem black belt.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
I'm talking about James Jhnsa.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I think he.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think Bruce leeh disciplined with Jetson coon h No,
what was Kareem? Kareem don't have no belt, just a
brown belt to hold his pasts up. He probably ain't

(06:59):
got nothing.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Oh, Joe, would you ever go on a spiritual awakening?

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Oh? How many days?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Is it's there's some factors that I need to know
before I go on a spiritual awakening. How many days
is gonna three to five?

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, but three to five?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, I could do that.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, I don't think I'm going to who that who
that went up to the mountains and played stayed up
there for like forty days or something. Forty days is
the Bible? Who that who that went up into the
what that mountain? All of them they went up to
that George? Somebody went up there a honey and locusts. Man,
Please send me to that shall and temple?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Where for uh hey are.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
They and chicken up there?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Now? I need to know a nigga chicken breads, uh thighs?

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Three or five day?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Tails?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Rise?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I mean what were eating up there with yoe?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Three to five days? I can live in any environment.
I don't care how bad it is. Anything over that
I can't.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
I ain't.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I ain't doing it a spiritual journey.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
I'm ready for that man Jordan talking about he go
to church? Hold, lord man, what happened? Yeah? That was

(08:41):
John the Baptist, John the Baptist? Or was Moses unusual
food such as honey such as locus and wild honey?

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Hey, locus locus is yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I ain't asking that as yet. I'm tried to figure
out how long did he go? How long did he go?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
George?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
A few days? He wasn't up there in no damn
forty days?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
See what a garment of camel's hair and a leather belt,
and they had camel's way back then.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Huh, and he a fly he put that shit on.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Hold On, hold.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
On, Titus boy, he said, camel here and a leather belt.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
And I like that. Yeah, I like the idea.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Let's let's do that spiritual retreat. And we could do
the We could do the spiritual retreat, right, both of us.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
We can talk about it on nightcap.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Hold On, they said he lived. He lived in the
wilderness till he was about thirty. I show hope he
went up there when he was twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Hey, I don't like that, but we went in there
like a child.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Hold on, anybody, no chance?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
How long is how long did John.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
The Baptist spand the wilderness? Thirty years?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Noah, come on, man, uh huh.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm just saying to say, hey, so he disappeared in
the widows for thirty years. Now, I ain't throw off
in to hold you.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I ain't even buying that one.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I probably got three to five days. Yeah, three to five.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I could do that in the wilderness, in the mountains.
I don't care where I'm at, rigid, rigid, cold temperatures.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
A last. No, I don't need I need. I need
the idea. I ain't trying to do. No, I ain't
trying to do. No extreme temperatures. I ain't trying to do.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
No extreme heat, no extreme cold.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I don't like the cold.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
No.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh I love, I love. I love extreme cold.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I like seventy two and sunny.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
No, no, I need I need to be I need
to cold. I need to have it cold.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
All right, Oh, Joe, we got a very special guests
joining us, joining us NBA skills training to the NBA
and College Stars.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Dribble too much, dribble?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
What did you do?

Speaker 4 (11:09):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Everybody? Man?

Speaker 4 (11:10):
I appreciate you guys having me here now.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I appreciate you coming on. Well, do you go by
Johnny or do you want to go by dribble?

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Either way, whatever you whatever you want. Dribble was cool.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Okay, Well let's start with this.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
How did you How did you get into training NBA
stars college stars? How did you?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
How did this profession come about?

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, man, you know, chasing the dream and you know,
growing up in my environment with nobody going to college
and my family and being a Haitian American in my neighborhood.
I just fell in love with the game, man, and
uh no, it kept me out of trouble and did
a lot for my mom's part, staving here, keeping me
out of the streets and on that basketball court. So

(11:53):
from there, you know, my goal was to play in
Division One. I end up playing at Liberty University with
Seth Curry and I ended up chasing the dream to
go to the league and playing in Mexico and getting hurt.
And I feel like God pushed me to really be
teaching more than playing and I just committed two feet
into that and I started a brand called Handlelight.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, so your goal, so was your goal of eventually
was to play in the NBA. Did you want to
play in the NBA. Did you have aspirations of playing
in the NBA?

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yes, I had aspirations to play in the NBA. It
was my goal to get there. And no matter what,
you know, and playing in Mexico and the horrible floors,
it just it gave me strest fractures and it messed
up my journey. And I just didn't feel like, you know,
it was time for that anymore. And I just felt
felt like it was calling me, you know, to invest

(12:42):
into these kids, these young kids. Yeah, you feel me.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Hey, listen, when you were a kids. Mann you from
you from? Are you from down here in the crib?
You're from Boying?

Speaker 7 (12:54):
Now hold on, why ain't know you was from the crib?
Boy five sixty one? I said, that's how you're do. Oh,
you're right down the street where you went to high
school at I.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Went to Boy and High Marks. Okay, so Lamar went
to boy too, Uh? Lamar Yeah, Lamar Jackson, Travis Hunter.
I played with Travis, so okay. I was the I
was the receiver on Boy and High with Travis Hunter's dad,
So okay. I think people know about what Travis Hunter

(13:29):
dad was doing out here.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I know about seeing you. I know about seeing you. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Hey listen, listen. Your client list reads from all It
has an all star Battley. You got Chris Paul Tomorrow,
the Rose, and you worked at Kobe White and more.
When a future Hall of Famer walks into your gym
and decides to get work, how do you how do

(13:51):
you decipher what's someone that is already established needs to
work on as opposed to someone that comes in that's
new man. That's an amazing question.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
And for me, when it's like that type of skill level,
I'm really confident in what I can do and what
I'm teaching and how the people to get better. But
I take those opportunities to really ease into like building
a relationship with them because I'm really there to learn
even more from them. Because you know, even though I'm
a trainer, these guys are seeing different defensive rotations. They're

(14:22):
really out there. So I collaborate with Chris Paul and
I let them have the floor and then I turned
that into a drill and I add my skill to
it and it just becomes like a collaboration on the workout.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Okay, So what's your opinion on the criticism with personal
trainers and AAU ruining American basketball. While we see the
European players, we haven't had an American born MVP and
I think seven years.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
So you hear Lebron said, you hear I saw Richard
Jefferson say say it.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I've heard Dwayne Wade said, I heard a lot of
guys say AAU and personal trainers are ruining it, beigcause
and we see the uptick in European players starting to
dominate the league.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Well, I would say AU is almost like it's like
when we was back in the days on that outside
court until the light's coming off, playing ten thirty forty
game on concrete. Right, it's just a new age in basketball.
But my opinion on it is there's always going to
be a chance to play. Now, you're always going to
have a game to play. So to me, what they

(15:30):
do over overseason Europe is they really care about the
development and teaching the game and playing the game the
right way, and then everything just starts to develop even
more so my opinion about it is I care more
about the development. I think trainers are all the social
media kind of you know, gay training of like a

(15:51):
bad and red a little bit because some guys are
just out there doing it for fun. They're not really
like committed to really learning the game and then giving
back to the community and helping them get better and developed.
It's more might it might be a content play. Okay,
I'll show you how to do these three moves, like
you know, millions of likes I do this trick, and

(16:12):
it's just like it's a messing world right now with
social media. And I come from the old school man.
I put the work in the sweat equity. I just
happen to have a million followers by my skill. So
that being stead, I think if you focus on developing
your craft, having a good skill and hard work, the
followers will come. And I think that's a little bit

(16:33):
far removed right now. People think they got to be
on a you know, social media channel, have this type
of collaboration now, put up the work, put into work,
and there's a lot of resource now resources now no
matter where you play, they will find me. So that's
the positive thing about it. There's always games to play,
but the development needs to take a real hit in

(16:53):
my opinion.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
That's that's a good thing that you just said that too.
In all, obviously for for all the parents that might
be watching, how are they supposed to tell a difference
from those that can hit that are trainers that can
help with the child development and improving their game, and
those that are just taking money for content purposes.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, Man, it's like it's really hard to discipher sometimes
because it is a business and coaches gotta make money
because they're invested, and so they got to kind of
pull their way. But man, it hits far from removed
from community basketball and not coaching your community that you
know that's still working. There probably right now. You guys
probably know a coach that helped you out when you

(17:34):
was younger is still in that same community. And I
think with the resources and the opportunity with basketball and
the money involved in all of these things, it just
takes out that love just to help in somebody just
because you want to see them make it. You kind
of start seeing like a benefit out of it, like
if you help this person. And I come from an

(17:54):
era where you know, at eas l Hester and Beach
Community Center, that's changed my mind. I still got coaches
now that I go back every year and do campus
and clinics there. I think the coaching is just it's
just it's just a different world.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Man.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
I'm still I'm still learning it.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Man.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
You guys are doing a credible job with the media.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Man rich of that. When you look at handles, how
do you I mean, how do you rate handles? Do
you look at somebody that could just pack the ball,
like like Kyrie. Kyrie has tremendous handles in and out

(18:35):
the heads. He's great with either hand. He might be
the best below rim finisher in NBA history because of
his skill set and the way he can spend the
ball in the English, he can put on with either hand.
You look at there have been great ball Rod Strickland
could handle the ball, Isaiah Thomas could handle the ball,
Tim Hardaway and Alan Iverson had to cross over. So

(18:56):
how do you judge handles man?

Speaker 4 (18:58):
First of all, do you have hands?

Speaker 6 (19:01):
No?

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Because the way you describe it, man, I'm an on
the floor right now. Yeah, I'm I'm the hooper. I'm
the hooper. I'm the hooper. I'm the hooper of the crew. Okay,
bad man, handles man. The game has changed because now
you know every if you can dribble the ball and
space out of the floor and getting that thing and
kick out for three, like everybody is trying to handle

(19:23):
the ball. And I think the Warriors really changed the
game when Draymond started running that point. It just made
people even be more aware of handles. Along with the
guards that are were winning back to back years from
like Stephen Curry and Kyrie Irvin. These guys are being
successful with handles. So I think you work on handles,

(19:44):
you work on everything. But the game is really about reaction.
Even those guys that you see doing the highlights, they're
really reacting to defenders. So with handles. I like to
teach kids on how to control the ball, like starting
from the feet out, you know, ball control, footwork, show
their ball manipulations. You learned all of that to get

(20:06):
to A to B really quick and as somebody stopped that,
then you got C and D. So I think it's
just about how people are teaching the kids to be
involved in the game and use their handles. Whatever position
it is, and every position, you got to handle the ball.
To me, even if you're a big man in a
dumber spot and you catching the ball and you got
to take one dribble to finish on the other side,

(20:28):
that's still ball handled it. If you got to do
a euro and pick it off, pick it up off
the ground, that's still ball handling. So I think it's
really a part of the game that's really lift up
in the community in basketball, and a lot of people
are seeing the advantage of having good handles.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
But what we see now with handles, we didn't see
the guys guy's got handles now to get their shot off.
You look at Steph Curry, he's in and out back. Hey,
James hard really started it where he would go and
then get that up. Guys didn't really have guys had
handles to like break down the defense.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Now guys have handles to get a shot off.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
You look at a Kyrie, you look at a James Harden,
you look at a Steph Curry. You look at these
guys with the pool Kevin Durant with with the huge
crossover to get to his spot.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Did when did that transition happen? When do we go.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
From because you know, guys back down and this turnover
and shoot over one shoulder the other. When do we
get to the guys and get the shot?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
That's such a good question, man, that's a early good question.
I just I just to think. I just think the
game started evolving and the defense started getting you know,
like with the game involving with like Kevin Durant putting
pressure on another big fella. He's taking advantage back to
the basket against a big fellow his size, he might

(21:44):
get that contest right. But if he bring him out
there and he's been working on his handle all summer
and he feels comfortable. Now you forcing somebody that's out
of position to guard somebody like a guard. And I've
worked with Kevin Durant and he moves like he's six foot.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, he's smooth.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
He got little pockets he could get to off the
pull up, and it's just much easier. If you can
handle the ball. You still got the bump fade, you
still can create space. But if you can move that
ball like a guard without getting turnovers and being efficient
with it, you cause problems and you win championships at
that position. With Kevin Durant, in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Ain't shave with the snatch and got that snatch now,
I mean, bro that snatch.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Hey, hey, do you see I like street ball?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Right?

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:36):
And do you think do you think someone that plays
streetball or loves the game of street ball can transition
into playing organized basketball even though some of the habits
are frowned upon in organized basketball.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Do you see a mixture of.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Both being able to to coincide together or you don't
think so? Absolutely? I think streetball is really.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Unteachable. You gotta almost be in that vibe. There's some
things now that I might do with the basketball and
try to teach NBA guys on how to do it.
And if they ain't grow up in that era of
watching in one mixtape, get to my Little and all
that kind of stuff what I grew up with. Yeah,
the rhythm is a little off, like back in the day,

(23:24):
I'm popping in a mixtape and I'm watching it over
and over. This is like street ball. They carrying the
ball over they you know, it just makes you more
comfortable with the ball, and it also brings out your personality.
And nowadays in basketball, especially with everybody trying to dribble

(23:45):
the ball, they gonna box. They could box you. They
could box you when you're only doing this right, and
then you got to work on your handle on the
low and then when you pop out, everybody's see it.
But I think it just opens up your personality. And
street ball it's all I remember rest of us to
escalate it, even to them, like it's big big boys,
the handle of the ball, being able to create space,

(24:06):
move like a guard. Some of the things that street
ball things can carry over a lot and people who
ask that player like it's that, you know, even even
Stephan Curry does a couple of street ball moves.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
A lot of them guys have adopted that.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah, they adopt like, but they can't they know how
to use it efficiently. You know, they might do a
street ball move and see it online, especially now with
all these one on ones and all this stuff. I
got NBA guys, they're watching one on one battles like
we used to watch back DVD battles. They like, they're
watching one on one and they're taking the things from

(24:44):
one on one battles and they're applying it to the NBA.
So they're definitely like in the community and the new
and one now might be these like amazing players like
that are playing one on one like next Chapter and
all these other guys doing it. That might be the
new street ball, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, it's like the figure of go ahead, O Joe,
go ahead. I just by that.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
I just had one more question. Listen, you you're a
basketball spahn. So if you were to have a favorite player,
not all time, just who's your favorite player right now
in the game?

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Do that you just love everything about their game from
A to Z. Kobe White, I just I've been on
the process, man, I've got him. When he first came
into the league and he had a little shoulder injury,
he went from averaging nine points to jumping up to nineteen,
to jumping up to twenty and he never missed the
summer and I've watched the process. I got clips that

(25:40):
I can show you from training and working on reaction,
working on his handle to translating and doing against Lebron
one of his own idols. Right, So it's like that's
the special part for training for me is being able
to see these guys getting the lab, work on something
I help them create, and then now they go in
the game and they put it out there forever the

(26:02):
world to see. And I'm able to be that middle
person to show the youth be like, hey, Cochin White
most is the ball just like you. He goes hard,
he gets tired, just like you. But all the working
put in that lab. That's why he's my favorite player
because I know how much hard work he's put to
be Perusa. And so Kobe White is one of my
favorite players. Chris call is one of my favorite players.

(26:24):
Of course my clients, right, I get it. I feel
like the clients that I have, Chris Paul, the Marty Rosen,
Kobe White, these consistent clients that I have, they are
a true professional. And I think there's a difference between
being a pro athlete and being a professional athlete coming

(26:46):
every day and doing all of the things that you
need to do to be great at this game.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
So no, professionally is your occupation? A pro is how
you go about the occupation?

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yes, sir, I like that.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I look at and we talk about this a lot,
and you said you said something very interesting. I think
it's hard to not get incrementally better if you put
the work in. I'm not saying that you're gonna go
from a guy that averages ten points to all of
a sudden averaging thirty three points. I'm not gonna say
that you're gonna be a guy that comes in and

(27:18):
be you know, you know, a.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Six or seventh player of the all of a sudden
be a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
But it's just hard for me to see a guy
put time in in the gym and he's not get
incrementally better. Because I see shape, I see a guy
like an Oustar Reevez. I see some of these guys
that you can tell that they put the work in.
But I can also see guys they haven't gotten any
better offence their rookie year.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Why you think that shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Because see the thing you're what you say, see I
see better than what I see better than not here.
I heard what you told me, But I see your
game has not evolved. And as a matter of fact,
you're worse now you're three year four than you were
you're one year two because you're.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Not putting the time in in the gym. Then I'm not.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Saying that you're gonna be all of a sudden be
Lebron or Staff or one of these great players. But
it's just hard for you to put any amount of
time into anything and not get better at it.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, that is, And I think like the adversity that
comes with it and the timing, like those two things
are very important because while you're getting better, there's gonna
be adversity. Your guys. Sometimes you'll feel like oh man, like,
for instance, me all that Liberty University and had the
best handles in the team. You know, I felt like

(28:34):
I was the best player in the team, and I
didn't get it much planning time I rolled the bench.
I had Steth Curry as a freshman in front of
leading the country and scoring, and the coach, coach, my
coach wanted me to get paint touches and find people.
But when I got recruited, I got recruited as a
as a scorer, So it was hard for me to

(28:57):
like translate that. And I think people it's all about
that circle of people that's around you. Like you might
be in a situation where okay, coach just wants you
to run to the corner shooting three of play defense,
but you've got this whole bag that you can go to.
That's like a fine balance between doing what the coach
needs you to do and then get it in your bag.

(29:20):
So I think, like you know, with development, you gotta
like to for that confidence to get better, it gotta
be a lot of factors that's hit. It gotta be
your upbringing, it gotta be you know, the adversary on
how you handle it, how you take direction. It's more
than just putting that ball in that basket. And you
know working. We know a bunch of dudes from our neighborhood.

(29:41):
They can they good, but it's a lot of things
to get better in basketball. It's not just basketball, you know.
It's like you got to learn how to play this game,
and you got to learn how to be a professional
at it.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Dribble, all they wanted was a janitor or cashier and
you trying to be VP CEO.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
All they thought, that's all.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
That's all they were looking for. That's all they was.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
They ain't saying you're gonna be that, that's you, They
just said they need you that to be that for
right now?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Can you do how many how many stores have we
heard somebody starting out in the mailroom, somebody starting out
at the bottom floor, and all of a sudden they're
CEO of the company. Because a lot of times we
can't see past our own situation. We can't see the
box that we're in as far as we can see.
Sometimes you have to think outside of the box and

(30:32):
see yourself beyond where you actually are.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
And being humble and having a great routine that keeps
you mentally strong and keep you chasing your goal even
if it's not right now you know.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yep? Well, jobber, thanks for coming on tell us Chat
where they can find you out on social media, Man,
you can find.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Me at dribble too Much on social media or handle life,
or you can find some training tools if you want
to on handlelife dot com to get your handles better.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Man.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I appreciate it all the best continued success. Man, Thanks
for giving us a couple of minutes moments of your
time tonight.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
We greatly appreciate it. Continued success, bro.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Man, thank you and continue having that great success on
the show. I can tell why it's a great show.
Some of the questions that I've got asked on this show,
I've never been asked in my life. So you guys
are doing an incredible an incredible job, and keep it up.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Thank you, man, I appreciate it. Man.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
You's yes, sir, all right, I s it's.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
All right, Oh Joe, nice time for rough draft. Today's okay,
we got the animation, we will get elemation. All right,
oh Joe. Today's questions. Top excuses to get out of plans.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Oh, oh, that's a good one, that boy. Ah.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
You know, Hey, I'm going and I get to go first.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I won't the last one.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
It's not who go? Won you go?

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Who go?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
We rotate?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Hey, hold on, if we play basketball and not make
the shot, it's make it take it, which is talking.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
About first of all, ash been giving you as been
giving you first for like the last okay.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Go ahead, well you know what, you know what, you
know what? You can go first because you're gonna lose anyway.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh your bad? Oh your man? You know man, I
got a headed go yo, Yeah, I can't do it tonight,
can't go okay go okay. Uh you know what, Hey,
it all depends what those plans are.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, that that too, that too. Hey, give me a minute.
I'm gonna call you right back. Okay, I'm gonna call
I'm gonna call you right back. I'm gonna let you
know right right back. Man, don't never don't never call back.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Oh, your son came up.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Some came up. Yeah that that listen. That ain't better
than man, I ain't got.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Nothing to well.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Uh, well, you know what, man, I'm just tired, man, tired, tired, tired.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
I don't don't nobody ever say they tired. You lie,
you lied, man, I ain't heard I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Uh you heard it before.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Hey, you know what I'm Hey, why am I ain't
gonna be but I ain't gonna be able to make
with saw boys and night Boy.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
I got a check. I gotta chill with him, old
Lady Bryan.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, that's a good one. That's to keep the keep
the peace o choke.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, to.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Keep mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Hey, hey, something came up. I'm tired, Yeah, I use
I'm sick. Okay, damn, I mean a head. They ain't
really sick, you know what? How about this? Uh damn,
I don't really, I don't really do the whole lot

(34:18):
of excuses about YAE. I just now I ain't gonna
be able to make it and lost already.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Now I done told y'all, I told you you can
go further. You're gonna lose anyway.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Nah, you know what about Yoe my dog? My dog
sick though?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Man, you know Titus Man been pooping all over the place.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Okay, ship boy, what's up? Why was y'all boyfriend to
do the night?

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Right?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Y'all gotta well Boobo trip well club live boy ship
But y'all boy tripping boy at the beginning of the month.
Boy rent dude, Why I came up while y'all tripping?

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Hey, I'm like dee bo y'all ain't never got no money,
he ain't so became up up tired by dogs sick?
What else could I use? Like I said, Man, I
don't Oh, oh, Joe, car man man, the car man,
this car man. I don't know what's wrong with this car? Yeah,

(35:17):
I ain't got more car all of them on the break? Yeah, Hey, Gord, trouble.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Hey, I ain't. I ain't got to listen. But what
y'all y'all trying to get into by hold on? You
know you got to hear them with that.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I said I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I got tired.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
I ain't say I was tired. Boy, I ain't even
get the excuse yet.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
But you know, a nigga tank on the boy, you
got to swing it all.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
For your boy.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
You're going you're going back to talking like when we
was in high school.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, my take on eat boy, I ain't really got
it right now, Bright.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I want this one, Joe. I think I got this one.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
No you no, you ain't get this one.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, I got this one. Ah uh uh, I think
I got this.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
I told you.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
I told you was gonna lose before we even started.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, man, you know car bad A, the car man,
that car trouble man get you every time.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Hey, not having no gas, not having no.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Gas, but you know, but see the thing you got
you got some homeboy.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Hey man, you got two dollars on you because you
know back then, not now, but when I was coming up,
you get by four y'all y'all get two dollars each,
ride all night, Hey, that way that was funded. Ain't
going nowhere, just spending just riding around.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
That was a good one, all right, Chad, what y'all think?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I told you? I told you what it was. You know,
you know I want that one. I won that one
before it even started. I could just all right, well
we got guess what we going to your favorite? Now
it's time for spello slinko?

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Are we doing?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Where your hat at?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Oh? You have you have? You do? I need to
call to get your hat back.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
To she she threw it away? Man the way, it's all,
it's all good. It's all good.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
We'll get you another one.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, it is all good. I talked, I told them
with all the other day.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Y'all cool still?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah yeah we cool?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Were cool a dog. We don't have a dog. You know.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
You want to see you want to see people, you know,
living and and being happy and stuff.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's my dog, all.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Right, O Joe. The first word is differentiate. Huh differentiate differentiate.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
B I F F E R E N T I
A T E.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Listen, I know how to spell. Now, I know how
to spell. Don't do me like that don't say, don't
do me like that.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Now, I know this is what I do now, okay,
and it somebody put a stop cheating, don't ye.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
As soon as you said the word, I started spelling,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I know that's that's that's why they say, stop cheat,
don't yo. The next word is anesthesia. Anaesthesia.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
This is tricky.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
It ain't that tricky.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
No, it is because there's a there's a there's a
there's an h in there somewhere.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Anesthesia.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Hey, I know, I'm listen. I'm gonna mess this one up.
And I know I'm gonna be pissed because I know
it's an h in there somewhere and aestheesia A n
uh A n t h stezia and a ste Steve

(38:50):
and uh and a seza and uh and uh anestheza
and uh. All right, A N A A n E
t h E.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
S I A man, God damn man A n E
s t h E s I A anesthesia.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I'm I'm gonna get that one. I won't gonna get
that one. I see and I see anesthesia so much.
And I still spelled the wrong ship. Okay, I got
the next one though, don't worry about I got to.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
The river horse of Africa. Hippopotamus.

Speaker 8 (39:25):
Hippo okay, h I p p o hip po hippo
pa hip hippo yip okay h I p p O

(39:46):
p A T T.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Why I asked, laughing at you, laughing he that man
added about three T to hippopotamus.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
No, then I just say, I didn't even get through
the T part.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
You.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
I just say, hippo so I T T Huh.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
You just said T T.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Hippo potter hippo h I p p o puh puh.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
P a t A m u s h I p
p o p o t a m u s hippopotamus
one T.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yes, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
All right, I got this one. I promise you I
got this one.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Handkerchief handkerchief h.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
A h A n k E r c A c
f h.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
A n d k e r c h h I
e f handkerchief.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Where the fucking d come from?

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Win a DCA. You gotta pronounce it the right way
you said.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
You said handkerchief, that's what it is pronounced.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
No, it's not hand it's not handkerchief, it's handkerchief.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
When you need to spread. No, that's not the that's not.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
The silent handkerchief. No handkerchief. The D is silent.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
You can't do that. You can't do that. I spelled
it how you said it?

Speaker 1 (41:22):
The D is silent.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
No, that that's not gonna work.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
That's not gonna work. If you they work, you need
to say hand kerchief if you want me, it's.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Not handkerchief, it's handkerchief. The D is silent.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
They butchered the English language. That with me that way
before my time as gouten bird. Yeah, Lee, okay, how
about this one?

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Haiji? Oh haiji, that's easy.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
H y g I n e e wait h y
g i e n e.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
H y g i e n e.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, I need listen. Now, that's one thing I don't
play with. That's I know how to spell that one
right away.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
I don't play.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Oh Joe, you were two out of five.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
I'm sorry, chat, I apologize, I apologize.

Speaker 9 (42:10):
I'm sorry, And now it's time for dunk on up.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Okay, okay, let's go. Now, I've been struggling reading a
little bit. Hey, hey, before we started doing it, can
I can I tell you something that really what nobody
really knows you know, I can't.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
I can't even see how I'm right eye. You know that?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Right? Really?

Speaker 4 (42:48):
And that's all my mom and my grandma rest in peace.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
I know I play around on here a lot, but
it's one of the few things I really don't share
with nobody. And people say, well, why you always wear
shades all the time, or why you are I can't
see out my right eye. And most of the time,
even if I'm focused, and let's say I'm looking at you,
if I stare in the object long enough my air,
my eye veers off to the right.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Oh so you gotta so you gotta eye that focus
in a slide eye, then go and hold on.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
It's been like this is high school.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Huh Yeah, like what you call from Artie Jason. You
gotta you gotta eye that scan the room. You see
people that coming in the room, you focus on looking
at Jordan and then you see you coming the door.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
You see him bringing the food at the back.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
But you you would you would never notice it because
nobody ever notices it. But just sometimes when when I'm
when I'm on camera, when if I sit here and
lock in long enough, it looks like I'm looking at you.
But all of a sudden, this one if you're off
to the right, because it has it has no focus.
It's really not looking at anything. Okay, it's weird. It's weird.
But anyway, anyway, back to matter of fact. You know what,

(43:47):
I really I played my whole career with one eye.
And something you can notice if you ever go back
and watch film, always notice how the ball. I don't
catch the ball until it gets right up on me.
All my balls are caught right spear instead of reaching
my hands out because I can't see it until the
ball gets close enough.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
It's weird. I had to throw that out there, fun fast.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I appreciate that. Appreciate you searing that.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Yeah, anyway, okay, here we go, dump going on. No,
I'm dead ass, I didn't say that, said yeah, yeah,
and see I put it up mo Ma man grandma.
So you know I ain't playing.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, I know you.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I know you tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Okay, okay, here we go, dum going on, baby, here
we go, Here we go. Who holds the record for
the most points score in a single NCAA men's basketball
tournament game? Oh my god, Yes, Who holds the record
for the most car God damn it.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Give give it a give me kip with Jorde.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Okay, come on, man, listen, they have to stop briefing you.
Before we threw the shows. Nobody brief you is first
of all, as back at nineteen seven. There's no way
you supposed to know this. Why am I not supposed
to know that?

Speaker 4 (45:03):
How old were you in nineteen seventy?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I was two? Oh Joe, Oh Joe, I'm telling you
that's what I do.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Oh Yoe, Let me put these on. Who your daddy? Jo?

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Kay?

Speaker 4 (45:27):
I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready. I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Okay, Okay, I got this one. I got this one,
all right, chat, stay with me. Which player holds the
NBA record for the most turnovers in a single playoff game?

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Ain't nowhere in here you getting this?

Speaker 1 (45:42):
James Harden nigga?

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Hold on? Hold on? Well how many?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
That wasn't a question?

Speaker 3 (45:57):
All right?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Well?

Speaker 3 (45:57):
What year was it?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
He did a he turned it over against the.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Uh, the Golden State Warriors. So it is either I
want to say, fifteen or sixteen.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah it's fifteen or sixteen.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, Well you got it wrong. You got to answer
wrong because you can't decide. You can't decipher on what
year you asked.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Me who holds the record for the most turnovers in
the playoff game?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
I gave you James Harden. Then you try to stump me.
Oh Joe, I don't do that.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
I'm not trying to stump me. But we talked about turnover.
So you said it with James Harden.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
But I said it with the end of it. I'm
the two for two.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Go ahead, Come on, wanting up, you cheating man. Who
holds the NFL record for the longest punt in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
History, The longest.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Punt in the NFL history.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yes, ooh, I can't remember, Oh my god, it's actually
it's ninety eight yards.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
As a Buffalo bill, I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
The guy.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Donnelly who I think his name is Donnelly?

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Wrong. The answer that we were looking forward was Steve O'Neill.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Ninety eight yards in nineteen ninety eight yards in nineteen
sixty nine.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I knew it. Not a yard.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
M yeah, yeah, we got you. Now you're not gonna
get another one right from this point on. I guarantee
you that, and you can bet your bottom. Valler, who
was the first player in the NBA history to record
a triple double in their rookie season.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
A triple double in the rookie season?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Who holds? Excuse men?

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Who was the first NBA player in NBA history to
record a triple double in their rookie season?

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Who least started in nineteen forty seven?

Speaker 6 (48:03):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
It's rookie Cason.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Chad.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
We got him, Chad.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
We got him on the ropes, We got him on
the trip.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
But first of all, the triple double didn't become a
stat in the forties. It didn't become a stat until
like the sixties.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, we got him on the rope like Ali trying
to dodge the punches. But he's getting hit with by
Joe Fraser.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
He's getting hit by Joe Fraser.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Foh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Yeah yeah yeah. Let me know if you want to
fold you, yeah, you want to fold. Let me know.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
We got him Will, I don't know will.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Who?

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Who was it?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Bob Coosey?

Speaker 4 (49:00):
No, his name is Wes Unsealed nineteen sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
First player in anybody history record a triple double in
their rookie season.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Oh do you know what Unselled?

Speaker 6 (49:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Yeah, I told him, not getting no more, right, he goes, ready,
here we go.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Who holds record for the most career fumber recoveries in
NFL history?

Speaker 4 (49:20):
And how many did it recover? Ah?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Man, lord have mercy fumble recoveries.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Don't call him the lord, he he, he can't help you.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, ooh, London fled to twenty two.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Ah, that was a good one. But then she was
looking for was Warren Moon? And she was looking for
was Warren Oh?

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Mad so so quick?

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Hey, listen to Will Warren Moon and obviously you know
strip sack and being able to recover the phone app
Yeah or.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
He though of the ball is a snap to it?

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Yeah, bae, we got it. Here we go, Here we go.
Which NBA player recorded the most points in the playoff
debut game?

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Alan, that is absolutely wrong.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Dance you were looking for was Luca Luca Dncik when
they went back to Dallas and he gave him boys
forty two.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Hold on you saying in a debut playoff.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Game points in the player Yeah wait.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
No, a I forty eight two thousand and one. You
showed by that.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yeah, now hold on, let me let me check, hold on,
let me check, let me check.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Forty eight I was the stepover game.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
He gave it Lakers forty eight.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
That game, I don't know. Ash might have to check.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
You said, who scored the most point in a playoff
debut game?

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Not a finals game?

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Debut?

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Yes, his debut, the debut, that's it.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
So you're thinking I was thinking finals.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Okay, Okay, you're right.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I didn't the word fight and then come out, come out.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
In my mind, I was taking finals.

Speaker 10 (51:21):
You only got to right, well, and a and a
and you only got to right. So I was two
for five. You were Tuoper five. So so Luca, so Luca.
Luca played against the Clippers, didn't he?

Speaker 4 (51:33):
No, I said what that was?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Are you saying, who scored the most point in a
return I guess against the former team?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yes, sir, that's not what you thought.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
If I say debut, debut with me and you be the.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
First time you've done something? Right? What debut? But it
was against the Clippers. It wasn't against Dallas. He played
with Dallas.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
No, he said in a debut game, he said against
Lucu to the Dallas Mavericks.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
But what I'm saying, but he did it against the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Right, No, he did not.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
He scored forty two against.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
He scored forty two against the Clippers. He did it
as a Dallas Maverick.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
That's absolutely wrong.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Actually, oh Joe, that was the that was the bubble,
you see, Oh Joe, he was trying to stump me.
He snump his SLF. Y'all see that chat, y'all see

(52:57):
that chat? Tie five, final secret in the evening. It's
tied for Q and eight.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
I mean, you got it right anyway.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
We tied. Finally, I need the breaks up you last time.
Video short says, what's up, nightcap, am? What team?

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Last name? Would you change? College of pros me?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I'll say game Cocks in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
It's wild.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
He said, who name would we changed?

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
He want to change the South Carolina game Cocks. Yeah,
so he wanted to change the last name. He don't
wanted to be called a game Cox anymore.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
But the game cock is dangerous. Does he know the
history on game talks in real.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Lif Yeah, that's fighting chicken mass Shoot.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
What a thing, gagster, don't change change that name.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
That's that's dope. I like that.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, I mean when I was growing up, cock fighting
what it's called with really really really really really really
really really really popular.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Hey, yeah, you know they them birds, but they go
for a pretty penny now, uh oh yeah, for sure,
depending on.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Where you at.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
You know, if they had it, they don't have it. Hell,
I'm just saying, depending on where you live at.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Oh, it used to be a big thing. It's still
it's a big thing in Miami. They still have it.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay, Yeah, it's a
it's a big thing. But they have you know, they
have spurs, they have knives, they have boxing, love have
all kinds of things. You put on a spur, yeah,
Keper Dogwood j You said, Oh, I had a birthday.
I listened to the Gold a little way and the

(54:32):
BET Awards was a ten for ten.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
It was h I saw a little I saw a
little bit of it.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Uh Man for me, Wayne still got I mean the
way he puts stuff together, oh.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Joe, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Wordplay Yeah yeah, man, he's specially with it.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yeah, like I like I like Wayne. I think people
have gotten so used to this eraror in the sound
of music in this area. Yeah, yeah, appreciate uh they.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Got the word play, like Wayne, It's just like the
Old Guard when you heard when you heard k r
Is One and you heard Big Daddy Kane and you
heard rock Camp. This guy can't see them with wordplay.
But because you don't remember, you didn't listen to them.
You think these guys saying there, if there's some good rappers,
I don't want to try to I don't want to
diminish anybody. But when it comes to wordplay, when you

(55:23):
start talking about k r Is One and Big Daddy
Kane and and and uh rock Hemp stop it.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Wayne, Wayne is from that.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Yeah, I think just in general obviously too with with
the with the this era of the sound of music
is different. I hate, I hate the word mumble wrap,
but that that's what we're what, what's what's what's hot
right now? And then Wayne coming back with what we
used to hearing from back in the days, and then
not and people maybe not liking the beats, not liking
the beats, but not listening to the words that are

(55:54):
being displayed and that he's saying.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
But again, when you could understand everything they was saying
this rappers, I mean, kr Is One, you can understand
everything he said. You could understand you can understand Big
Daddy Camee what he was saying you could understand what
rock Kim was saying. You could understand even Buster even
though he in Twitter. They going fast, but you got
understand it.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
And Twister understand which the tube.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah, some of these guys. Actually it was Fab five.
Freddy was the first one that had that fast rap.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I don't know if you remember fast for your n
TV rap Fast five Freddy. Uh, but yeah, I like
Wade And you know some people don't like it about men.
He fell off. He ain't fell nowhere to me. Scooty
Puff in the UK and O Joe Kylie and humbly
asked if you will say prayer for our dog Leo.
A large tumor was found in Sadly, we don't have

(56:42):
much time. Leo enjoys his nightcap. He's sending his best
school dad, Bro, you ain't gonna tell me. I know
I've been there, I've been there. I had a bull
Mastiff name Titan. He started walking with a limp. Took
him to the h took him to the vet. Vet
says mister Sharp. He says, uh, I'm looking at his

(57:07):
leg and we took some fluid off it. Say mister Sharp,
I think he got lymphoma. He says, I'm telling you
what I did. I already called the University of Georgia,
and uh, if you can get him there, they'll take it.
I say, say no more, go straight to Athens. Took
him and it just so happened. It was on the weekend.

(57:28):
As a matter of fact, it was the fourth that Monday,
so they weren't gonna be able to see him. Man. Oh,
Joe got him, took him there that Monday. We got
him there that Sunday. It was a Sunday, stayed Monday, Monday.
We went back up there Tuesday, talked to him. My
girlfriend went back up there that Wednesday. They said, mister Sharp,

(57:49):
we can do radio, we can do you know, radiation
stuff like that. But they were gonna have to put
him to sleep. So every time you do a radiation
you're gonna have to put him to sleep.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
And then to say for a year.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
So I'll go end up like twenty five dollars just
to get another I said, I said, nah, I said,
we're gonna come get it. We came and got him
that Saturday. Yeah, called the lady that Monday. Put him down.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
Man.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
That they like family, they like kids, man, And it
doesn't get any easier, but the joy that they give you. Ojoe,
I can't I mean, I ain't gonna lie. I can't
see myself being without a dog.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Yeah see, I don't understand. I can't deal with that pain.
I've been through that pain once, and going through that
pain when I was old enough to understand I don't
feel this again. That was enough for me not to
get another dog.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Hell, you remember when we.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
When we started the show, and you was telling me
you would tell me about the dogs that and listen,
I'm tearing up and you tell me about your dogs.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
They ain't even mind.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
And I'm crying just hearing what you're talking about. So
that'll lets you know how I feel and how unstable
I am, and how I can get for losing the pant,
I just I can't do it no more. I can't
have anything tad to me for that long of that
longer period of time, and then I lose you.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yeah, Scooty puff bro, give him as much love as
you possibly can, let him have his favorite treats and uh.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
And uh you know oof.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Let him go peacefully, because at that point in time,
it's just uh, it's not for it's not for him,
It's for you. He'd suffering, so give him his favorite treat.
If he like ice cream, let him have whatever he
wants steak chicken and.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Uh man, that's tough.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
That completes this episode of Nightcap. We're gonna thank our
special guest Dribble for joining us. She hading some insight
on how he goes about and teaches his NBA and
college players their handles and getting to their spot and
getting their shot off. Y'all know me. I am your
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