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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no
Sillers podcast with your host. Now funk that with your
low glasses Malone. So look, I know you know y'all
looked at the tidy. I was like, glasses is tripping. Ye.
(00:23):
I didn't even get to look at it because he was.
So you put your phone now. People be complaining when
you're on your phone and you know what what I'm saying,
and you'll be doing a podcast even though like this
ain't no YouTube show. We're not pay potentional with people watching,
but they want you to be gaged in the conversation
if they're gonna listen. So they aired the final epilogue
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to the R. Kelly Ship. Oh I missed it? When
did that come out? It just came out last week?
How do I miss it? Well? It was it was
I don't know many episodes my at four or five,
but this one is a two or three part okay.
So I went through it again now because sometimes I'll
be thinking, like maybe as a man, sometimes I'm like,
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am I just you know, am I just cool with
R Kelly? Or am I okay with this? Because I'm
a man, we may have different preference when it comes
to women and said, but am I just okay with
this as a man? Why is this show rubbing me
the incorrect way? So I went and made some notes
at a notepad, right notes, damn said, note put them
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in my phone. Was like, so I was looking at
all the girls who were on the show. I think
you talked about it last time, like you were talking
about their ages and there, like, yeah, now we got
time to talk about it last week was on some
other ship. And the reason it was because the term
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predator is thrown around with R. Kelly. Right, look at
the word predator six please get define that um. And
the whole premise of the show was R. Kelly is
a predator to under age women. Is it fair to
say that that's the whole Okay? So I noticed in
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the first two episodes they spun a lot of time
talking about two people who couldn't be in the motherfucker.
Oh and the girl that the little fourteen fifty gritty piston.
Why not why because she's not sing but she was
all in for the action. She was bull That's really
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the truth she has. He regrets, at least publicly. She
says that she hadn't um and so I went down
all the girls age roughly it's one, two, three, four
or five, six, eight, nine, ten, twelve. That pretty much
the whole show was built off around twelve girls. So
I was like, da, let me really look into this, so,
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you know, let me be fair, Let me be a
just tyrant. I mean as a tyrant. I want to
be just. So the main girl, right, who pretty much
leaked that R Kelly gave her her pies. Her name
is Faith Rogers. Faith Rogers when R Kelly Matter was nineteen, okay,
so she was legal Kitty Jones, right, that was the
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lady I think from Texas. She was on radio and
she was thirty three when they met. M hm okay, Lizette,
she was seventeen when they met. Okay, mind you, in
the state of Illinois, the legal age of consent is seventeen.
You know, most states in America, the United States of America,
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every state is different. There are over thirty states in
the United States of America the legal age of sexual
consent is sixteen, Nevada and Washington being some close ones
to US. Okay, so wait, if he did this with
the states, he did with a seventeen year old, but
he wasn't in Illinois. It just depends on the state,
but I think he met her in Illinois, right. Jazz
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Jasmine was nineteen, Area was seventeen when they met. Gironda
was sixteen, but she was at his court case during
school hours and she was lying said she was nineteen.
Mm hmm. Lisa was eighteen, Landa was twenty four, Andrea
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was twenty. That's his wife. The dancer Assanti when they
met was thirty five, Holly was twenty and Dimmed a
little stud looking young lady. She was seventeen. Okay, so
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what are you trying to say? So you're trying to
say that they were It's just weird that the whole
premise and ambiance of this show was r Kelly is
what was his charges? Nothing to do with So the
main charge that has something to do with under a
sex is a child pornography law, and that's if a
girl is sixteen or under the age of sixteen, I
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think it is, and you recorder having sex, it's called
child pornography. But that's not the think of his you know.
The charges that got in locked up was racketeering, trafficking, trafficking, trafficking.
How did they hide that trafficking. I don't know because
it's not a pimp. R Kelly was a different than
You couldn't even look at his bitches. They wouldn't look up.
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But no money you could give them. Wow, That's what
I'm saying. So how did they come up with these charges?
Finish you couldn't give money. So and then he got
charged with the Man Act. We talked about this. The
Man Act is what they charged Jack Johnson with. It
was a it was a racist law created by the
FED the government to stop black men from dating white women,
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particularly Jack Johnson, because he was busting all the white
holes and taking across their lines, doing unscrupulous things to him,
getting the head and even pussy and ship. And he
was like, all that is im moral acts cross the
state line. They charged because with that, Yeah, all right,
but I'm just saying, but the whole I'll be honest
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with the show. The whole looming thing is he just
like underage bitches. So they're trying to say that he
what's the racketeering? What is that? This is? This is different?
So so what I genuinely believe happened the federal government
felt pressure when them sisters came together and made that
show in lifetime, and it rallied up all the women
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who didn't listen to what was going on a glasses.
I just heard the show, didn't listen, So when I
finally listened, you know what I mean, I stopped acknowledging
what it sounded like and exactly what I was listening to,
And I realized pretty much every girl was a legal
age consent when he met them, except the two girls
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at the beginning too episodes, and neither one is on
the damn show. One he married and he didn't, did he.
They were trying to say that he was holding or
from what I saw in the movie that that he
was holding the women there, But that's not even like
hostage because that the families were saying that the girls
weren't saying that. The girls pretty much when they got tired,
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they just packed up their bags and went home. Assanti
specifically said she just got tired of waiting how this
Nike was treating and then she just got her pack
the rags and left went on. She said that in
the documentary the TV SITIS, it was weird. I was like, okay,
so what's the predator defined? Predator for me secen six. Alright,
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so hold on, hold on, no seilings, glasses low in
the house, glasses malone red, what's happening? Bread? Wass up? Six?
What's the deal? Or to do what I think it
six is? It is my partner. I may be me
at the beginning when I first started making music your
west side thing on the east side, Nik, but we
have figured out somehow how to come together and make
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a process prosperous Los Angeles relationship. As a homie. He's
a pretty diligent father, really smart hustler. So run that six.
Give me the definition of predator or as three of them?
So the first one is an organism that primarily obtains
food by killing and consuming other organisms, like a lion,
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an animal that praised on other animals, or one who
injures or exploits others for personal gain or profit. So
I think the conversation is exploitation. R Kety is exploiting
these women for but what's his? What's was a personal gain?
Or but what's the profit? Though maybe it's the China
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the game personal game. Maybe exploiting them for China. I
don't quite know because it's R Kelly, But they were
trying to make it seem like he was pimping. Then, right,
that's why it's just weird because it's not true. R Kelly.
You couldn't even look at the girls. But I thought, pimp,
you can't look at the girls. No, no, no, R
Kelly wasn't selling these girls. You. I don't know if
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it was. Yeah, I don't think he was selling that.
Kelly is not selling. I don't think he was selling.
I don't think of all his bitches to himself. That's
why he had them all up in the house in
different rooms. None of these can below to y'all. It's
not like we could have had him on the weekend
and then they went back. No, your minds, nobody was
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locked up just there after, you know, like they could
have just left. But but again, that's the the concept
of they did a really good job of mega. Sure
they did not say that, but you felt that. M M. Yeah.
So I was thinking about it and I was like,
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why would a nigga like R Kelly want young girls? Right?
And I came up with two things. He's either insecure
about his sexual package. Like niggas when I was growing up,
they wanted young girls. They used to say ship like, oh,
she's young and tight or something, and I'm like, so
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I would always think if you would look at young
girls and he was older, you might have like a
little little john Nay want to they just not like
that's nothing having to do with nasty or none of that.
That don't make sense. What do you mean? No, that's
not nasty. They're disgusting. Why are they disgusting? Because those
are they're young girls? Like why are you looking at
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Why is a grown man thinking about looking at a
young girl? Why would you look at you? I'm grown?
What does that mean I'm talking about? I think it's
what do you think changes from your vagina at eighteen
and now? The miles on? It? Just a thought, man,
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because I love when y'all like, you know the emotional replies.
So he's disgusting, Well technically not really, but why is
why do you want someone that is much younger? We're
talking about men that are like forty five, that like
a sixty that like old women eighteen year olds, nineteen
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year olds? What the predator? No? No, what's the words
you just said? The separation between her at eighteen and
her at the miles on it? Do you feel the
same way about cars. Literally, about to say that, like
when you buy a car, Let's say, let's say you
old man, he gotta he didn't get you the car
that you've got. What's about the two thou he got
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you the night out of Trump? M hm, okay, seven thousand?
About who want that? Where are we going? Yeah? But no,
if this person is specifically going for that, only cars
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you want the new cars? Why something? You want to
think something? Maybe something happens. I don't want the car
all these other dudes and droves. You're like, you're dying
what he has the means to go buy the new car?
Why would I want the Why would I want the
teen year old? Seeing there's young girls that be getting
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their thing. You don't know, but I'm just saying it
doesn't you know they might got miles too. There's no
young you have miles? What to have miles? I mean,
I mean, I didn't have a baby and ship, But damn,
what the fuck You're just gonna put me out there
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like that. I'm not hearing you out there. I think
that's some of that is like learned behavior. I don't
think so that's that's the point I'm saying I'm trying
to get you all to actually see logic. It's gonna
be hard because naturally y'all gonna gets logic and it's
just about how you feel, and you're not being honest.
What's wrong with the it's old? H it's old? I
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mean what, I don't know. So if you fifty and
your old lady was was she's the nineteen eighty model,
and then you can get to two models, what type
of besides sex? Excuse me, there's nothing somewhere? What's the
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point now? See that's and that's where I wanted to
get to because Glasses needs something besides sex, not our Kelly. Well,
then you say you can't like reading ship like that
or something like that. That's that's probably why he wants
a younger or or he because somebody years open and
it isn't even I'm saying he don't have too much.
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They weren't young, though. I think that he just wants
somebody to idolize him and do the ship that he
wants them to do. Because what the other girl was
thirty three and you and it was come on, man,
it was I wasn't about to be fucking drinking pet
and I am never. I don't give a funk who
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you are. That ain't happening, don't want to. I saw
on the last what it was like to celebrate the
one year anniversary, shipped on the plate and was like
dinner served. Shut the fun up? Are you serious? Who
is it degrading too? Why would you want someone to
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eat your ship? And why would you tell someone to
eat your Why is she why is she eating her ship?
Why they never know that? That don't make no sense.
That is sick. Some sums off with her. Some him
Kevin Gate said, if the woman is fine enough, he
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wants her to piss in his mouth. He's at my
pissing during like squirting or something, or he just said,
piss like I go to shower. He said, you know,
Kevis just be saying sometimes I believe that is ridiculous. Man,
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I'm just asking. Okay, So back to our Kenny before
I get into what weird is going through his on
to make him? How you kiss the person that ship?
I don't even want to know that even if they
ate my ship, that's just crazy. I don't even like
kissing people after they sucking my dig and just what's happened?
But I find I find a way to do it.
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It's a little bit different. So for sure, I'm not
shipping places. It's different. Hand Kelly, he deal with this cover.
I wouldn't, That's what I'm saying. Eighteen would you at eight?
R Kelly ship? I wouldn't know, And my daughter wouldn't
eat nobody's ship crimb eighteen Asian primate tree rid Okay,
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who was the Michael Jackson No, I'm not eating Michael
Jackson ship. Jesus, did you want to go to heaven? That?
I just try to salvation? Yeah, I'm gonna seat ship
for salvation. But Jesus, Kelly, I'm Michael Jackson. They're not Jesus.
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I'm just asking where so my points the exactly they
worship that's crazy it So it's R Kelly sick for
asking said if you and this is really what they said,
that rhetoric rus if you want to show your loyal
to me, dinner reserved? That's like, um, what do you
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call it? Um? Club like initiations to ship people do
crazy time fraternity soarty things like that, you know. So
that so what I was thinking was I mean what
she she wasn't didn't have a gun, puts her head.
There was any no intimidation though, But but I don't
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want to get to that. What I want to focus
on is the mind state. So I thought about he's
insecure by the sexual package because you think maybe something
happened to him. Yeah, but he's not. He's not a pedophile.
I know the word pedophiles going around a lot, but
pedophile means you're in some kind of sexual situation with
a pre pubescent and present. That's really but that's how
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they're trying to that's how they're made. They're making it.
Eliah was under age, they said, and the other girl
and speaking up R Kelly's Elvis daughter died, the wife
who was thirteen that he married and brought back overseason
that we just act like that didn't happen. He married
m Marie. No, he's not his daughter, her mother under age? Yeah, right,
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she was Elvis Elvis. I'm just just throwing it out
there because Okay, he married, but that's this. So moving
on right back to R Kelly marry even older Aliyah
then Mr President was Priscilla when he married. Um, So
I think either he has to have us an insecure
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sexual package, so he wants something tight, so he could
feel like he is to his intellect is super questionable,
so he needs somebody he could feel smarter than. So
you know, I think it's power. I don't. I don't
think it has power. I think it's who. I think
it's yet power. Whoever is going to do whatever whatever
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you want to feel superior. You know, he's not the low.
He can't just walk in the room and just like me,
he's saying. He's like me, prove it, like you know
what I mean, Like he wants you to be dead
and he's the king. Like your favorite word of this
new decade is loyalty. That's some kingship to do, Like
kings were pieces of ship at concubines and ship they
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like people like kings and queen. Well, what about the
concubines because every story of kings that I remember had concubines.
Definitely right, Okay, So, or he's insecure about getting old.
So a lot of the older homies I know used
to bust on bitches eighteen nig come back to our school.
They were fearful of getting older. So they're they're claiming
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the fan was like, oh yeah, you see these young
but still like I still got it. And that's because
the women the age or the girl's the age or older,
it ain't working with them. Or this got Miles, this miledge,
I get it, Like I think my packages is okay
enough to where I'm not insecure about that. So I
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don't think it matters what the miledge is. I'm good
with cars. I will fix that shup, not the classic
out of it you could have, Miles. When I got you,
we're gonna who We're gonna go through that thing, break
that thing down, fresh boats, fresh nuts, repod of coat
that you know, Sam, blast that thing, if that thing fresh,
put that thing together, gratched that thing back up. We're
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gonna draw that thing like if fresh pull around the
block again. But he got that classic, so I can
tax some ship that was from sixty four when I
had that thing. Everybody pull out on the shawl with her.
Everybody's gonna like, look at that thing right there, right so,
but that's Glasses. Glasses is a enthusiast of this type
of ship. I'm not worried about getting older. You wrote
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fear of getting older, m So I'm not looking to
live ucariously through no little young goofy girl. Right, I'm okay,
we're getting older. But I thought about that, and those
are the three things that I thought about. It could
be the behavior to they could have seen their fathers,
their grandfathers, the uncle. You know people. I mean, women
are attractive. Let's be honest. Women is attractive. Sixty, I
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guess it's some sixty. I met a c CEO girl
in Germany. Guy was attracted. She was trying to get
me some play. And I couldn't get past that she
was under eighteen. It didn't matter what the law was.
It was like what but she barely don enough to
drive rode this dick. I couldn't do it. You couldn't
legally ride this dick in California. That is the different motors, right,
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just got your permit. That's how I see a girl
that's inexperience. This is right, here's a different ride. But
you just playing s haranging around this motherfucker about to
fall off and hurt yourself. Baby, you got to go
through some of them. Look let them look. Yeah, gonna
put you some mileage on that thing. I need that
thing broke in. You need that broken something is like
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the cars zero. I'm not mad. I don't think like this.
Car I had car Z Romans, a few of them.
I like them. Motherfucker's with the way. We got to
at least get the dirty and drow this time you
know what to do with it. Last got you and
now it's broken. It's my fun ready for donuts. I
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agreed to for for for man. Yeah, but that's what
I wanted. And then that's the point I was getting
to because I was getting to that point, what the
fund is wrong with the alias of the world? In
both for y'all world Leah, y'all was young dating some
old nigga. I didn't What did you think I was young,
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over eighteen dating older guys? Yeah, and I didn't. Oh
oh wait, my son's father is but four years four years,
four years, that's not old. Four years is not old.
And I was with him from what to Why you
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didn't get a Nike in that show? Age? Because I
liked him he I met him, and I liked him.
But I did date guys my age before him. My
boyfriend was my age. I was crazy about him like
that was you know, but that I met Like what's
the mentality between under like a young girl? Like when
y'all was so like for me, I like dating guys
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that were older because they had cars and they had
money and they had we could go places, you know,
we can go to eat, we can leave out of
the city. So you know, like you know, it wasn't us.
It was just like but I wasn't like, oh, I'm
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not going to talk to guys my age, Like I said,
I did talk to guys my age. The guys that
I did talk to my age, though, I did find
that they were they did they were like more mature.
They weren't like their age. I don't know why. I mean,
that's just what I was attracted to. And I think
like for I think like for me like growing up,
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I know, like it was more I'm not gonna say
it was acceptable, but we kind of like brushed it
under the rug. Like guys would like like grab you,
like you know what I'm saying, Like you'll be out,
like say you go to a club or say you're
like a like at a function or whatever. You at
your home girl's house and ate uncle or whoever like
might touch you or be like hey girl, come in here.
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You know what I'm saying. Like I was a little
more passive, like okay, no, like you know, but I
wasn't like, why the fund you're touching me? Whoop? Whoop?
Do what? I was just like more passive. And I
know now, like what i've seen with this generation, the
girls aren't. They're not like that. It's like you're touching
me like like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, they're not.
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Don't touch me. You know, I don't like my picture,
don't give my MS. I want you to like what
is wrong with the Aliyah and you that makes you
look at the older man and be like this is
And me only dated one older guy when I was younger. Okay,
what was you thinking? Was you thinking? I mean I
told you already, you asked me this before and they persisted. Yeah,
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the older guys are more very down. He didn't make
you think of your dad and ship with that old
right he was literally like like like she said, like
three or four years older or something like that. When
that old? When I got over eighteen, I dated guy. Yeah,
when I seen years like t why what do you mean?
Why oh what you mean old? Why would you be
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looking at it? But I wouldn't. I probably wouldn't have talked.
I don't know. I didn't get anyone. I was like
when I was eighteen, I was nineteen and he was
I think he was like thirty. Yeah, what did you
see in him? Oh? Yeah you did? I you know what?
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Like I um, I liked him. But the issue I
didn't like him that I didn't stay with him and
he was just it was just like he was so
persistent and just kind of swept me off my like
feed like, oh, you know, he lived in the Marina
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and it's like, oh, you're gonna go to my house
Marina and he um, you know, at that time, he
wanted to buy me a g wagon like and I
didn't take it, but this is where, you know, and
so I chose to be with someone else. And he's like,
you're gonna be You're gonna be broke for the rest
of your life because because he, you know, had money
or whatever. But it was just more of like he
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he weighed me down. But at the same time, it
was like, Okay, I can go hang out a way him.
I'm getting into the club. I'm not twenty one. I'm
walking in the back door with him, and now I'm like, okay,
this is cool, Like you know, but I didn't I
knew that it wasn't gonna be like long term, like
I couldn't. I could have married him, we could have
been together, but that just wasn't me like and I
knew I wasn't happy like being with him. I just
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it was just something to do and I didn't want
to hurt his feelings. But then when I broke it off,
he was tripping, tripping trip trip yeah, m yes, And
I didn't um because I'm trying to think what would
go through a girl's mind and I was high. I
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didn't smoke, and he had bomb weed. I didn't smoke,
and I would smoke and I would, honestly somewhere else
I was. I don't know. That was the whole thing
where it's like, why am I doing that? I was
over eighteen, I was nineteen. I had a kid, so
maybe I was like, no, I wasn't nineteen, I was,
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I was. I wasn't nineteen. I was like twenty because
Roland was no. Maybe I was twenty one and I
was drinking wine at the time and I would get
buzz off wine. It was like I was just having
a good time. Well for me now, um, I didn't
really start dating the older guys until I got a
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little bit older, like in my my twenties, Like when
I was in high school, I did have an older boyfriend.
He was like, like I said, like four or five
years older than me. But other than that, it just
was more mature, Like I didn't have anything in common
with the guys that I went to school with. It
wasn't It wasn't like I don't know, it just happened
that way. We met and just we hit it off.
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Just what it was. But I had a I had
a boyfriend that was high school. Maybe he hadn't he
was just stupid asked me letters and my little boyfriend
it was it was school with me. He was. I
liked him, he was well, he wrote me too many.
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I feel bad because I found out later when he
had was autistic. No he was. That's not funny, you said,
because not because she no what is it called when
Nate when you it wasn't even like that, Okay, So
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he had dyslexia. He had dyslexia whatever, and he was
and I felt, no, I'm telling I'll be a real ship.
Like I felt really bad later when I found out
because I was so you know why, because you were
fucking young and immature. I wasn't young immature. I didn't
know what the funk that was. Just felt like this
take time to really go to school. In class, he
was outside passing letters when he should have been working
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on the alphabet. I don't know, I'm saying trying, But
what I'm saying was I didn't know until later sending
me the candy man, right, you so sweet, but no
real ship. But I think, honestly, it just comes with
he just wanted something different. And like she said, I mean,
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I think I was naive. I was naive. I was
she will be honest with you when you don't take advantage.
I'm not meaning like I just I'm just cause somebody
asked me that I think R Kelly was taking advantage
of these girls, and I was like, no, he could
have possibly, And I was like, what is he taking advance?
R fucking Kelly, What do you mean taking? If you
(30:42):
go to R Kelly, I've been listening to R. Kelly
since I wasn't fucking junior high, maybe in middle school
for sure. If you know about R. Kelly, he talked
about sucking. So if you're a fan of R. Kelly,
you're a fan of sucking. But I didn't know, you know,
it's I wasn't. Yeah I was, I wasn't. I didn't
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know what sex. I knew that, but I wasn't having
sex like that. We would, you know, but you knew
what the fucking songs were about, right, And so if
you're a fan of R. Kelly, you're a fan of fucking,
baby making, baby making, whatever, what's the difference. I'm just
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I don't think you're if you you don't have to.
I wasn't even sing like that. I wasn't it not whatever.
It's a lot of times you could be a fan
of you could. You could be a fan of a
basketball player. I don't mean you could who. I didn't
say I didn't know how to have sex. I said
I wasn't having sex. Missing the point what I'm saying,
you don't have to be a pro at something, or
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even great or even experienced to be a fan of something.
If you're a fan of R. Kelly, you're a fan
of fucking because all this music is about sucking. He
makes a thousand different ways to talk about he said,
put a key in the ignitionition, Like, how many more
times you gotta make songs about fun as Now that
I'm older, I can say, Okay, damn, yeah, he was
really talking about just fucking. But back then I'm really not.
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You know, but I'm not. I just wasn't. I wasn't.
I wasn't really you know what I'm saying. I wasn't
pay attention. I was just in and I was attention
because because look, when Honey Love came out, I was
at least able twelve or something. Wasn't uster society, right,
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Wasn't that when he was with um oh yeah, what's
your name? And Ja? When he was sucking, it was
they were that was they was suing. You know what,
sometimes people be like glasses man, you just go so
hard that somebody tell me I'll go to our for you,
and I'm like, I go too hard on you. I'm like,
that's just a lie. What I don't accept is silly ship.
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Some of these things be obvious. It was an obvious thing.
Mar Kelly always talked about sucking. But as I got older, yes,
but when I did different thinking about you knew he
was talking about fucking, but you just wasn't sucking. And
then the more you start sucking, the songs even start
making more sense. And I'm like, I like, because all
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your experiences, you'd be like, oh, this is what this
nigger was talking about. The key and that ignition. So
if you're a fan of R. Kelly, you're a fan
of fucking. I'm not saying you when you first heard
of Kelly fucking, I'm saying us a nasty motherfucker. If
you're listening like an arcady, you have to be somewhat
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nasty as a human being. To like Mark Kelly, you
have to be. He's just a nasty ass man. He's
a really nasty motherfucker. But that's not all he has,
not every song. I believe it was thirteen years after started.
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I don't know anybody been talking about sex. And if
you where he was in the studio thinking of y'all.
Had he put them dances in the video to make
y'all think that's what he's talking about. He said, if
you didn't give no pussy, he was gonna step man
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round around, hit the backs. I don't know. All I'm
saying is I've just been thinking about that and I
was thinking, like, Okay, if you are Leah in this situation,
what do you look at R Kelly for that's eight. Well,
the guys your age. Let's say if Alia was pretty,
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I ain't gonna say she fast, because I don't know
what she was sucking. But Elia looked apart. It was
a lot of wine and then a lot of pretty
you know, and advanced moves for that age, a lot,
a lot of hips. She knew she had hips. I
don't think R Kelly was her first resent peace for
give me a live, But I just don't think R
Kelly was Elia's first. I've probably been on it. You
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think that if a woman knows how to wind her
hips and stuff that No, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying it's a confusing thing to invite sex in
because wind of your hips is a very sexual thing.
It's not really anything else. It's kind of the purpose
of it. Right, Dancing became an extension of different things. Right,
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people dance sexually. Aliah was a person that danced sexually.
You know, me and the Lia is the same age,
So she danced sexually. I used to look at it
live like damn Alias fuckable the whole time. We just
sme age. So I know if I felt to some
old nigga felt it So what I'm saying is, what
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did she look at? Okay, if she make glasses at
that time, right, if she made glasses at that time,
I'll be trying to fun. So I wonder did she think, like, damn,
all these niggers want the same thing. This nigga is
gonna write my songs too. M hmm. Like what makes
you succumb to giving r Kelly pussy at twenty eight?
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If you fourteen fifteen, okay, let's say you fucking how
are you first? Persistent? How were you? So let's say
some girls write some girls with young fourteen? Remember girl fourteen?
Right sometime go back to the day, back in the day, nigga,
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I said, sex back in the day. Okay, so fourteen fifteen, sixteen, right,
guys want the same thing whether they are fourteen or
forty four? Mm hmm. Is her decision based off this
nigger got a car? M Like why would it not
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be a thing. Let's say if you fifteen and you
want to have sex and the nigga fifteen want that
sex with you want? That says with you one? They
could pick you up in the car nothing, they could
pick you up on his handlebars. It's gonna be how
you mentally connect with that. For me, like how I
mentally connecting with them? And so when I say like
they wear you down, or they're persistent, they're very charming,
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or they're very like I don't think the economics play
a roll into this at all. I mean they are
all the time. Some girls, I mean ship, they like
what they like. She she might want the guy what
they handle bars. I'd be poppy loving ship, or my
other girl might be like, should I need more? Like
I ain't get shipped over here, I ain't working with
you whoop like, hey mama, ain't got ship I need?
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It was never about what the person had. I mean,
it was about they need to have sense a woman
is not about what a guy has. What do you
mean it can't be you mean? I just think y'all
live when I'm saying, I'm gonna say that because I
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don't say, why do I think it's a lie? Don't
say why do I think women care more than about
a true connection versus what a man is earning and
what he could provide? Don't ask why do I think
you're lying when you say the first? For me, I
have to definitely connect with you before any of all
the other stuff is, let's let's just have a real Okay,
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let's have a real I have to connect with you.
But before I'm going to allow myself to connect with you,
I'm gonna make sure these other box are checked off exactly.
That's true. Yes, and that's all I'm saying because sometimes
y'all just get into some ship and we finished just
start lying. You just don't. We don't got a lot
like we could keep it real at this tape, just
like Nigga's look at girl. I don't know what niggas
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look at girls to see a big ask for it
really don't have no function and purpose. I think women
are smarter than me, and I historically went on the
record saying women are smart to the men. I say,
y'all mistake is treating me in like they're stupid. So
y'all looking at the women that have the big ass,
but really not looking at the big ass, just looking
at her because you want to suck. But the ass
makes you want to suck though, right, So it's tricky, right, No, yes,
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and though because you're somebody with no ass. But I'm talking, okay,
like what you're looking at saying on social media. Well,
I think women make quality decisions when they're choose because
they start to care about everything outside of the person.
Can this person provide for me? Can this this person
give me a ride to work? Simple things? Y'all make
decisions on niggas. Don't never think ship like that until
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like modern and then if the nigga do think something
like that, we're gonna call him a bum straight up.
We're gonna be like, man, he's bragging your bis out
of corners. You heard, We're gonna talk bad about you,
which is kind of you. But I always think women
made more quality decisions. So Leah gave some pushy to
the nigger that could write or a whole album that
was a hit record, hit album that will platinum and
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ship they are married, right, he loved her, he had
to love he married this girl. Um, but fun that
we can't get that for how did you get the
pussy because he could write a fucking hit album because
his mental capacity is of at that time of a
fifteen year old probably probably probably thought they was just
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I don't know him and Leah. Leah probably was more mature.
I think probably Robert Robert and everything. Look Robert called
it Cus Robert, Robert, silly, Robert, you need to grow up.
I can hear Leah talking to Cuds right there in
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my mind at least. But I think women make smarter
decisions because we react off of simple things, right. Uh.
It all goes into the innate idea of getting, you know, um,
impregnating somebody. Women who got wide hips look like they
could have kids, even if nigga is not trying to
have kids. That's the innate desire that you just refused.
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But somehow you decided to go through with, you know
what I mean? So I think I get why women
make this decision. I get why Aliyah decided to funk
with R Kelly. You're trying to figure out what the
funk was he thinking. That's why I think it has
to be some level of insecurity. What could this even
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if he not her first, Let's say he was her second,
because he could have been her fifth. It's my four
team and that many niggas, and she's a star. She
on the road. You she ain't sucking everybody. So let's
say Rob was her third nigga. Let's say Kelly was
her third nigga. What could she know? She don't know ship.
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She ain't got no fucking money. He gotta be here.
Wants to be too in in that space too, I'm
not I think most men want to be in control period. Yeah,
but you're saying, you're saying you wouldn't want to fun
somebody this inexperience because you want them to know what control.
That don't mean I can't controller. Yeah, just because it's
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sixty four and Pobbly got all these miles and I
read I still control it. I could control the baddest car.
I could have a thousand horse power. I'm a whoop it.
I'm gonna whoop that hole and this that motherfucker Oprah
Winfrey to be you know what I'm saying. So if
they don't have it, so they doesn't have any horse power,
you're gonna put it together. And that's what he wanted
to do with put them you know why why would
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you go through all that exactly that car That's like
taking a brand new car and then let me rebuild
this car. That's stupid. I'm gonna take a two three,
and some people that they do feel like, oh I
can show them something or oh, you know, like I
can have the way that's what they think I want
them to do that. I I did that. That happened
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to me. Somebody brought that out of me. I didn't
know nothing about that. I was a little like, is
that really? Like? Is that okay? See me ask you six.
I wouldn't be bragging if I made somebody sucking my
dick that never sucked my dick. Now that's just me
because she ain't no ship. The first time I remember
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a girl gave me something, it was the first time.
It was horrible. The last thing I want to do
is go tell something. I taught her dick first, and
it was so bad, like teeth. It was bad, and
teaching her was frustrating. Too fucking grown to be teaching
you how to suck a people. You are twenty three.
Let me tell me you ain't something nobody did. This
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thing might have been she the first one. I'm the
first one. I understand it. But I think that's my point.
That's rudy in a natural ship, right, being somebody's only
at first m you know what I mean. It's weird
to me, but I think that's the order to natural.
My intellect makes me sore past standards standard things like
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that ship, like, oh, it's just more first, not his minds.
I could be your hundreds and his minds, now give me.
That's where I'm at with it. I feel like my
gang that's strong, My ship is strong enough. You could
I could have been your bitch. I'm your twelve hundred nigga,
and you're gonna act with I want you to act.
I ain't gonna make you do nothing. You're gonna get
down because that's what I want. Or I might want
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you to be yourself to see where I'm at in life,
you know what I'm saying. But again, that's also something
that be thinking and reading and line up and not
drinking and not smoking nothing to get out of his
own mind. Like he just I just played games with
my mind all the time. I love challenges, so it's different.
I just don't know, you know, I don't know why
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the funk would you want to teach somebody how to
have sex? And it seems like self esteem, you know
what I mean? He might have low self esteem. That's
what I'm him being r Kelly, right, That's what I think.
So to us, it's like that Kelly, but he like
he the same weird dude that he might have been.
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That's what I'm thinking. Sick that crazy. If I'm Mark Kelly,
I just go out on hall. Bitch. Get up out
of here, bitch. See if you've got nigga, See if
you find a nigg better than me. I'm trying to
let him go. Get off your leaves. Bitch could have
pushed out of here. Get up out of here. Let
me when I came through the all to had bitches
all in my face and ship like bitch Glasses malonea
R Kelly, make your choice, but get up out of here, nigga,
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or you can work with me, are Kelly. That's how
I would be. I'm Robert Kelly. This is Glass Malone.
This crip nig gonna throw your life away. Bitch. He's
gonna bitch. I'm I'm Robert Kelly. Bitch. This nig ain't
got bitch. I had more Platinum Brecords and this nigg
in the first two days, but he's still in secure
enough to wear The bitches can't look to excuse me.
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The women cannot look up at you. M that ship
is crazy that you could still be that insecure and
you'll be Robert Kelly and they can't look up that
So for you guys in here and they in here,
they can't look at you like a pimp. That's what
I was saying, like a pimp. But but that don't
mean you gotta pay to make them look up. Oh okay,
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so they can suck your dick when you pay them.
They can look in your eyes when you pay them,
but not before then. But even pimps is insecure. You
where about somebody knocking your bitch. I'm let this bi
go if you come back, it's truly my bit Some
pimps like that. That's because it's a real so what
I'm saying, so like with Robert Kelly, like this is
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r Kelly? How could this this nigger? And that's what
I think it's not he is insecure. That's what makes
you act like that. I would be. I'd be out
of control if I was Kelly Man, I'd be turning
bitches around. Feel me what he is because he didn't
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really because he never he didn't date anyone or deal
with anyone like on his stature like where they had
the same people, sure though just not telling right now.
They're ashamed. They're not saying he's a lot of them.
You think you think, Yeah, yeah, I think. I don't think.
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I don't think. But they just weren't going ship. Yeah,
that's the thing. But I'm not mad at that. If
you ship and this keeps knockingly ship and then uh,
this little twenty ye old day girl ship and I
like you these ship, I'm gonna get the one that's
gonna ship because he wants the power as he want
the power. I got power over her. But is that
really power? For somebody to eat your ship? How is that?
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How do you like that? Is that not power? Though?
That's a lot of power and control, Like, don't feel
here's the plate, it's not she did what I said,
but for him, I don't even like, not for you,
but for him ship it's enough. So miserable, I'll be like,
oh I thought I had something this pictus crap. If
I did that to a girl, she ain't my ship.
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I would never talk to her. That's why they wasn't
really like in relationships with them. He was in a
relationship with all of them every day. Were all his
girls girls or his things? What do you mean that
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though they were under his room? What do you mean
they was all his women? Mm hmm. This is that
could be your woman and she's eating ship and she's
and if he was Kevin Gay's girl, he wants you
to piss in his mouth. I mean, you think a
girl but that. I'm not gonna be in a relationship
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with Kevin Gay. He wants me to piss in his mouth.
Some girls might be like, oh, that's kind of kinky
and kiss him after it, and they spitting pissed back
in each other's mouth and ship that's they thing. But
she might feel powerful, he might feel powerful. You can't
think this. I just thought about that. What you know
what I'm saying, um put you're pissing? Who do you
really like? She like? Nah? Just pissing his mouth? Was
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like look, Nah said, Nah said Brett. Look Na said nasty.
Na said. I can't kiss him after that, though, but
I might. What do he want you to kiss? I
don't give a fun I was kissing the girl's mother kissing.
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I ain't gonna kiss probably. Yeah that's Na, that's not
like piss on me bread. I just think you're so gorgeous.
He just baby shower. Nasty Nas like, okayden shower, you
want a britt. I'm not kissing him, though, I'm saying,
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I don't know if or killers kissing them what she
probably because he probably was. He probably let me tell
you that at that point. But what if he ain't
it with a knife ship chicken and they shared it
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in chicken ships. But it's like that, bro, he stop me. Okay,
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the hope you get what I'm saying. Like so, in
the same breath, Kevin Gates can say, you're so beautiful,
I want you to piss on me. Mm hmm. R
Kelly might say, like, look, if you really want I'm
R Kelly, I am the king of R and B
and I really need my women to be down with
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me to show me. I need you to do something
that nobody else can make you do. They don't have
any self esteem. No one has self I don't think
no one. That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm not
buying that nobody ship. Listen. I had the greatest crushing
history right now. Regina King is the greatest finest woman
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the world to me, Na King, find mother, I love it.
She couldn't give me the ships ever, I don't know
about what I'm blind. I wouldn't need no ship, Regina
King ship ever? What you lying about I don't say
I would need to pussy, but that's just old. But
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I'm saying I was thinking. I was saying, like the
women that I think is the greatest, I still wouldn't
do these things at no age. So I don't believe
it's a fact that they were immature young. They were
desperate to be around or Kelly. I see. The thing
is when this is what I realized about being the Mac,
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right when you were Mac. Women that are desperate to
be around you would do anything to be around you.
I don't think it's you praying on them. I think
we have in the wrong conversations, right, we were saying,
why is R Kelly? Why are the R kelly and
R Kelly's of the world the Elvis presidents of the world.
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Why are they looking underage women? Right? They're insecure? Whatever
they insecure about, is it relevant? But when you think
about the alias of the world and why they're looking
up to it, why they want to sleep with R Kelly,
they're actually making quality decisions. There's just rooted in some
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real ship. It's our fucking Kelly. What was he thinking?
One of them girls look like a little boy, um,
little don look like a little boy, dressed like a
little boy, and all they made a dress like she
was just like a little boy, right, And I'm like,
why would you funk with her? I get why they
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would sun with r Kelly or Kelly the greatest thing happened?
Or Kelly better than that, because she's gonna do whatever
it is that he wants her to do. That's why
he sucks with all of them. But what more could
you want them to do besides give you some pussy
and cook some food? But is it wrong if your
mind is crazy and you can get people to do
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what you want them to do, but to be around you?
Is that really wrong? If your mind, let's say your
mind is let's say you are nigger who like people
that burned themselves? Do you want us every girl you
deal with to get the funk with you? They got
a brand themselves. I want to want them to brand them.
I'm branding a G right here? G you want it?
You want me to give you this dick brand a
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G on them? Am I wrong? Or are they wrong?
For Brandon? Like you could say Glass, why am I
brand that's on that? That's like if you say so,
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That's what I'm saying, I think the legal age and consent.
I understand the conversation. But then once you look at
the true ages and when he met those girls on
that show, all of those girls except one who was
of age. Right, So all the girls on that show,
none of the girls on tape was even you know,
they weren't involved, but all the girl that was in
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the show was all of age. They want the whole
show to make me look at our Kelly crazy. I
knew our Kelly was crazy the first time I heard him.
He talked about sucking on every song. Then he made
another album that he talked about sucking. He made another
album he talked about then he made another album when
he talked about fun and I thought he was a
perfect when I was young. I'm like this, love fucking
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m He don't even He just disguised way to talk
about right. But my question to them is I knew
he was sucked up. What the fund is wrong with y'all?
I never liked that. If Jesus came down, give me
I know we know we love Jesus. We both love Jesus.
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God came and said, hey, Glass, I need you to
eat this ship. We're gonna have a problem. I need
you to eat this ship. Jesus died on the cross
for y'all. Nigga seein. I wouldn't eat to play the
ship to save you all life. I said, hey, Glass,
you need to just play the ship to save all
the humanity. Y'all be some dead motherfucker. Good looking out
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