Conversations About Relevance

Glasses dissects the issue of relevance in hip hop. Who and decides if an artist is relevant or not. Why does this conversation only occur in this genre of music. Joining the discussion is Aja and Britt. Join the discussion in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M Watch up and welcome back to another episode and
No Sillers Podcast with your host now funk that with
your low blasses malone. Relevance the definition of relevance relation

(00:25):
to the matter at hand, practical and especially social. Oh,
practical and especially social apple no applicability. I've never heard that,

(00:48):
but it's relation to the matter at hand. I know
we're not about to talk about what I think what
we're gonna talk about. I just noticed that that's a
you have that people have all the time. And somebody's
not relevant. And if they say, like as artists, right,
an artivist is not excuse me an artimist because I'm

(01:12):
tired today. An artist is not relevant in hip hop
never that's that's so that's a term of you know,
as an insult in hip hop that we said, oh
that nigg is not relevant. Sure, And I've heard this

(01:40):
term over the years, Oh that person is not relevant
this person even recently I've heard I heard twenty one
Savage within context. I don't think he was meaning to
be insulting when he said that. And he said NAS
isn't relevant to him, No, and isn't relevant by that definition,

(02:01):
and and and say I've gotta let me finish, to
jump off the porch because hold up in court on time. Relax.
NAS isn't relevant is what he said. Now, what I
take it to mean is he saying nas Is music
isn't relevant to hip hop today. Even at that point,

(02:21):
I'm going to disagree, right because it very much is
related to the matter at hand. What would make twenty
one feel like NAS music isn't relevant? He would have
to think about maybe it's not being played on the radio.

(02:43):
But then there would be artists that are new that
their new music isn't playing on the relevant like an
NBA young boy whose music is never on the radio
but more than relevant, but it's insanely relevant. Um, I know,
just being used as a way to discredit older artists.

(03:03):
And again that's I don't think that's what Savage was
trying to do because I heard the context of the
whole conversation. They were having a conversation that was complex,
and he was saying as far as what's going going
today versus what he had going on, and I think
he put NAS in his mind into a place that's
above the game. But is it fair to say that

(03:26):
NAS is it making relevant rap music? I don't know
if that's true, because I think there's an audience of
people that listen to twenty one Savage that's still listen
to NAS. If you look at the sales he has
the same. He's actually um, he's He's Gaze to Do

(03:47):
as many records first week as Glorilla, Who to me
is the hottest new artists coming out. No Glorilla, no NAS,
They're both. They're both on on Q to do right
around thirty thousand albums in the first week. Oh right, Well,
I just went to a concert and that's at the

(04:07):
Hollywood Bowl when he was he just was there. Well,
it was State of Mind tour, but I mean everybody
was standing up when he came out. Every time, every
shout out to the home girl Simona. She brought me
a NAS shirt. Yeah, it was. It was a dope concert,

(04:32):
like I feel. I mean, I could be biased, because
you know, I am, like, maybe it was, so it
had to be. I don't know if it had to be.
But he was talking about in regards to his age,
like where he's at. You want to know what I
think because if you watch the clip I watched what
he's talking about. I think he these young guys allow

(04:52):
themselves to be like dragged into certain ships sometimes by
the older dudes. And I think once he started hearing
like the name, I think sometimes the younger dudes start
to feel attack when the older guys start bringing up
the older the older rappers. But well, what people have
to understand is most of these guys that are interviewing,
interviewing him are our age that they're not even interview

(05:14):
on him. That's a part of a conversation or is
that what it was on Clubhouse? So at that point, yeah,
NAS is gonna be relevant. Like I'm checking for NAS.
You get what I'm saying. When they said King Disease
was three was dropping, I'm like, oh, for sure, I
can tell g the same thing. He's like, I don't
give a shit about that. I'm gonna check it out

(05:34):
because that's what you're saying. I'm gonna listen to it.
But he's not checking for it. And then but I
wouldn't even though I'm not checking for you know, hit
Boy and Nass Project, I wouldn't. I don't think I
would say he isn't relevant. See something. No, I wouldn't

(05:54):
say he isn't relevant. I don't think he meant it
is not relevant. I think what he was trying to
say was he was like, this is what I think.
I think what he was just trying to say was
he's not relevant to our generation of hip hop. But
that's but that's not true. That's not even true. But

(06:15):
that's what But that's what I think he was saying. No,
and I can not agree, but I've thought about it,
and I'm like, that's not true. There are certain artists
in the landscape that are relevant, beyond relevant, like a
jay Z. Now I've I've been on record, We've talked
about jay Z's last album, and I was like, I
think it's a pop album. I wouldn't necessarily call every

(06:38):
album because I think if a rapper is rapping about
mainstream topics, oh yeah, you know what I mean, I
think it becomes pop. It's like you Two's album, you
know what I mean. So I do think there's a
level of weirdness when you when you lose, when you
don't care about what's going on culturally in the streets,

(06:59):
and you're like, like, if nas is on the album
rapping about doing mergers and big business deals, that wouldn't
be hip hop. M Like to see. The culture itself
is hip hop. The people that come out of the
culture are representatives of hip hop. They're representatives of the culture.
But your life can also change, and you can go
to a mainstream space to where you stop even talking,

(07:19):
like because some words go pop, Like what's up at
one time with slang white T shirts? At one time
was hood hoodies. At one time street that ships in
h and them. Now you pop out with that is
not thugging no more. He is not a part of it.

(07:40):
So again, there are certain things that move past the
landscape of hip hop. So so I think NAS is
like jay Z is forever relevant. If something happened to NAS,
it would be a bigger story than something happened in
the twenty one Savage. It's a huge story. Yeah, and

(08:04):
you got Yeah, you got old heads. So the young
the young people may not be checking for Naas, but
we're checking for Nas plus um, you know some younger
you know, I don't even think it's just us though,
I think it's everything everybody. Like I think he has

(08:27):
that he's always and always and we meet him go
back and forth about you know, who's better JA or
NAS and nothing, And I've always told him because because
he always says Jay is better than not. But what
I always tell him, and I will always stand on this,
I said, as popular as Jay is, and as much
as he's loved and all the things that he's accomplished,

(08:48):
I believe and he says no, but I believe Nas
is more revered than Jay in in the culture and
will forever be more revered than Jay in the coach.
I don't even think that's true. I think if you
ask most rappers whose life would they rather have, they
would say and career. That's because that's because Nas has

(09:08):
never really put his ship out there like that. He
put it out there. He started too recently. He didn't
really used to really just talk about the money he had,
like he started trying to do that. Like when he
started doing that was when he started doing like, uh,
what's that more patent leather jumpsuit and you can That's
my point. He was trying to do something at that
point when he did that bullshit like he don't even

(09:29):
like that record. You like that record, you can aid
me now it's awesome. It's not a good record. It's
not indicative, Yes it is. It's absolutely not. It's not
the person you want him to be. Nas Is like,
is is the truth? Nas Is like, it is what
you love about him, that's not who he is. Nas
ain't been. Nas Is like since way before. Nas Is

(09:50):
like like, that's who we We want to keep people
where we love them, in these positions where they just
know is that's not what these guys are. Like I
listened to Naas but I didn't. But I'm not. I'm
not most most women, most women didn't listen to nas

(10:11):
or or exactly him or method Man. You guys looked
at them more than you listen to That's that's fair. Yeah,
I just said, nasty, na What are you talking about?
I just said that. Yeah. Now yeah. He was like, no,
you don't want to go to this concert. No, she
was like, you don't want to go to this concert.

(10:32):
I want to say I didn't say that again, I think,
And that's the conversation. That's slight of relevance. Um, there
are artists right on the West Coast to me that
are hyper relative on the West Coast, like if something
happened to them, it would be a travesty. You could
put that same artist in New York and of something

(10:53):
happened to them, nobody would bad and I like who.
You can put that same person in Kansas and nobody
was bad and not like who. A ton of guys
so kind of guys are super dominant in l A.
You mean do well in the morning. That are relevant
you're saying, but there they would be considered not relevant.

(11:14):
E got you so relevant in hip hop? Nas is
one of those guys who will always be relevant in
hip hop all the time. Yeah, he's allegend. I don't,
I don't. I don't know, because you recently, not too
long ago, said he's not relevant. We have this conversation.
I've never in my life said Nas is not I

(11:37):
told you Nas doesn't make hip hop. No, that was
a different conversation. I was saying, No, it wasn't. This
was like older, this is what had this conversation all
the time. Never I've never said Jameson he would lie?
Would you he actually know the exact context and the facts,
jay Z, Nas and Snoop are forever relevant. Oh I

(11:57):
think you said no, he doesn't make relevant music. That
was what you said. Now that's true. He doesn't make
relevant hip hop to what the street? That's what it was.
No excit that's the trick. I would like to believe
that's what he's saying, but I think he was talking
about the way NAS is selling. Oh, that's what I think.

(12:21):
I think he's like. But even then, you know, you're
talking about somebody doing thirty first week. That's well, here's
another thing, and this is this is anhing for me
that creates relevance right with especially with Naas, he's doing
something right now that we haven't seen done in hip hop.

(12:42):
Is that dropping these albums at this older age because
older rappers were considered to be old. And what about
Snoop who's been dropping out like this? No, no, no,
so because this is one thing. This is one of
the things that NAS fans does all the time, you
know what, the always start to make up that person here. No,

(13:03):
that's not true. But here's what. Here's the difference with Snoop.
Although Snoop has definitely done that musically, what's kept him
relevant is Snoop does everything is on Hennessy commercials. He's
not used to kick knowledge. As my daughter knows Snoop
because of his voice because he's the voice over on

(13:25):
her cartoon. NS not doing none of that, But he
says Hennessey. Yeah, but what I'm telling you that you're
gonna equate that to someone who does wrestling, who does
a cooking show, who doesn't mean he's not but it's
not like wrestling with like yo, we want. So my
point is I'm not saying is the only one. But

(13:48):
now the Hennessy is not what part of his business
deals keeping relevant him announcing his business deals keeping relevant
him dating nicking manas keeps irrelevant him dating at least
kept him relevant. All of these things go into relevance.
He announced publicly that never with them he professional pictures.

(14:13):
I don't know what happened. Again, I just don't think.
And here's and here's another see what you would like
to believe. What you would like to say is NAS
keeps himself relevant through jazz music. But that's not true.
That's the belief again, y'all have this, but the l
of what NAS does, but the level of First of all,
Snoop has not been dropping every project, these last four

(14:35):
projects not to drop, in my opinion, have been at
a very high level. That's all. That's all preference, because
I would think some of these I would think ill
Maddie still maddic life is good. Are all way better
than Kings diseases way better. It's not even close. I
don't think these are even in the top five NAS albums. Now.
That's not to say that he doesn't make really good albums. Still, right,

(14:59):
that's not to say he doesn't make good albums, but
they're not Pinnacle NAS. I mean, Floyd maywhether just beat
up Deggi. It just ain't like when he's fighting his
pocket out right. So again, y'all as purious, right NAS,
and I call him purious a NAS puris Nazis, okay,
what they say, a narcissist. He likes to pick up.

(15:21):
He also calls me an East Coast sympathizers. Y. He's
a cultural seller culturist, so as a nabtist, as a
Nazi ful ship. But it's okay. I'm The funny part is,
if y'all ain't realize doing this podcast with me, I'll
be dead serious. And trust me, I've thought about it.

(15:44):
This is not like you don't. It's not tongue in cheek.
So when I'm talking to him about NAS, I have thought.
That's why I knew. I've never said NAS is irrelevant,
A selling Hennessy on the television, right, You did say
he makes irrelevant me. I said his music the Red
Curtis made younger. Gonna start talking crazy to you. Watch you. No,
we're not Donal No, I'm telling the truth. All the

(16:05):
niggas know I funk with Nas as much as you
can funk with the nigga. You don't necessarily that's not
your favorite. I think not like if I had to
put Nas and now wouldn't be in my favorite guys.
But I'm not in your top five, No, not mine.
And he's not in the top five my top five
of all time for everybody, and it's not even number
one out of queens my top five. Who's in your

(16:28):
top five? Who's in your top five? Or is anybody
relevance there? He's relevant, But you just tried to shoot
my nigga Snoop relevant. I didn't try to shoot He's
relevant because he does all this stuff with the I'm
saying that's what's made him more relevant. It's not the
music that's it. The music. It just announced the biggest

(16:49):
re launch of a record label. NAS launched the new label.
We didn't know about it. He did Project is what's bigger.
The relaunch of Death Row and really Snoop Dog. That
doesn't That doesn't mean that he's relevant through music? Was
it not? Death Row was all about music. He's about
to bring that back. He hasn't really done anything. He

(17:11):
released albums one three, No what he's been three three?
Just because you didn't know, Just because you don't keep
up with Snoop, you don't really This is the dude
keeper because I listened to the last let me tell
you about that was another one. Let me tell you
about relevance. Tell me I don't listen to let me
tell you about relevance because you're so by what Snoop

(17:34):
second album? Uh? Doggy Style? That's his first album? Dog Father?
What's his third album? Uh? Dog Style? Dog Father? Is
that the Uh? You know why you don't know? I'm
trying because he went to fucking no limit. That's why
I don't know what I mean. He's not Snoop Dog.
I wasn't paying attention to him at that point because
he left Death Row and I know what was going on.

(17:55):
I don't even think I liked the singles at that time,
so I don't remember. I can tell you Blue Parker
treatment this is crazy. I can tell you whether was
third Nasa, I'm here, tell me you've asked you a
third was NA third? I I don't remember his either
Imatic Nostra Dames written, this is a fake fan. He

(18:23):
really just grabbed it on purpose so he didn't look
like a nazis. That's literally what just happened. Don't let
he fool you. Like either thought that nigga could run
off NAS albums, but no, I was just saying people
are like dog and the legends are relevant because they're
always gonna Snoop is always a record away. NAS is
always a record away from being being relevant right in

(18:46):
the record space. So so even if the thought the
fact they're both coolest fu still that's what that's what
hip is. Yeah, that's what it's called hip because them
two niggas are hip. Hove is not hip anymore with them,
but the big Yeah, that's not hip. Now you're just

(19:07):
being racist. No, that's not hit. Two black women just
agree with I'm not feeling that. I'm not feeling women
because black women sell out fast. I don't even do.
It's like that. I love my black man is color
is always it's actually becoming of him now, Like that's
not you just used to see in it because it's there.
I ain't going nowhere. But it's not hip. It's just

(19:31):
him growing up. That's how I look at it, Like
it's who don't know no other fifty ye old man
with that here? Good huh. I don't know that that's
not a haircut. He's literally he's literally growing bosk yot
hair so that that's literally the only person doing it
at fifty. Said his own trims are usual, and I
don't think that's that's got a lot of here to do.

(19:53):
He definitely has a lot of hair Kodak. He said,
that's not a flex though. That's not a flex. It's
not somebody cannot make me feel proud to have hair
as an adult. It should or hair. I didn't do
nothing to earn this. God did this, That's what I'm saying.
That's a blessing. God did God every I don't know

(20:15):
what he was thinking, like, you need this extra hairline
for whatever reason to impress you niggas or some ladies.
He still got his hairline. What the funk benefit is
this hairlinek eatoke vagina, This hairlinek paid bill? Probably it
probably yeah, exactly, it gets you vagina though somebody get
you younger, I don't know somebody. Pussy is so irrelevant

(20:41):
now at that point, because you got a nice hair hairline,
got me pussy, pussy, it is irrelevant now talking about relevancy, right,
literally podcast where I said pussy is worth the same
price as Netflix nine, that's where it. Pussy with a
stocking to be there, because that's all you gotta use

(21:03):
to get some pussy Netflix. Right, You can get some
pussy that easy, right. But if if somebody don't give
me some pussy because I got a good hairline, pussy irrelevant.
But okay, so let me hear everybody. Okay, back to
the topic relevancy. So why why is hip hop the

(21:26):
only one that cares about that ship? Is it because
it's what's hip because black people are hip the corner
Black people make everything hip. Yeah, but that's not the point, right.
So a nigga, a nigga like twenty one Savage from
England arguing about what's hip. It's what black people do
because we are think he thinks teasing crumpets are hip. Nigga,

(21:51):
take that knife off his motherfucker face and stab you
with it. It's funny because I was laughing about that.
I was like, yo, it's a Canadian jew and the
Englishman this insisted, go with the anti Semitism. Where's where's
Michael rappaport man? I was rolling when I listened to
it the other day and I was cracking up. He

(22:14):
was He was for me. There's something for me. And
that's what I was asking you, like, what would the
Remember I came in here and I said, what is
he talking about? Is this like some Roman ship? Remember?
I asked you and you said you had listened to it,
yet I hadn't heard it. Right now, you want you
do something for me? I was like, Okay, this is

(22:36):
some weird I was, but again, you gotta understand, this
is Unamerican stuff. This is a Canadian Jewish kid, Jewish man.
He's a He's a golden child, a Canadian Jewish kids,
an Englishman. Savage is English. You don't forget what the
word the word that Drake gets to use too, which
makes me even more word a Jewish kid that gets nigga.

(23:01):
But that's not the point. The point I'm saying is
that I cannot culturally, I cannot culturally try to compare
what Drake and twenty one would do because it's not
really for me. It's for like a mainstream people who
want to be niggas. It's like an Englishman and the

(23:21):
Canadian men talking tough. Now, I'm not saying twenty one
is not tough and Drake don't need to be tough.
Drake is tough in the in the booth comes from
place where they stabb niggas all the time. Damn got
they stabbed you ask that? So them nigga's over there
and some ship. But the level of thuggery going on
between that, I can't really relate. Thuggery like that is

(23:43):
real international thuggery going on. They get cracking over there too.
So I understand the relevance of you know again, it's
it's two countries coming together to make American music, Canada
in England. But he said he grew up in Atlanta.
You know. He was like, you can't tell me that

(24:04):
bloke don't do it because that really you come see
me your big sausage Tyson Fury. You guys ever listening
to him talks. So what I'm saying is that that's
the point of relevance, like it just depends. And I've

(24:26):
been thinking about it more and more and more and
more and more. And it's just like people like Nah,
Snoop jay Z, they are going to be relevant forever
they have. They're the first level of hip hop. LLL
co J two facts l probably the one probably close

(24:49):
to it. Iced Tea he's another guy that's super relevant. Yeah,
and those guys have expounded past hip hop into a
space of permanent relevance because their mainstream, so mainstream things
appeal in hip hop. See everything hip hop don't appeal
in mainstream, but everything mainstream will appeal in hip hop.

(25:10):
That's because it became pop culture. Yeah, and at that point,
we're gonna make it. We're gonna use it the way
we use it. So Nas, Nas jay Z, Snoop, l
l q J, Iced t Uh, possibly even Ice Cube
have ascended into pop culture. So it's the fair to
say their Bill Collins, their YouTube, they're they're that generation

(25:32):
of what happened with rock where it's like they're bigger
than life at this point Aero Smith was. So it's
hard to ever deny. So it's hard to ever deny
that they will be relevant within our culture. They will
always be because they haven't sent it past. It's like
Taylor Swift is relevant in our culture hip true, Like

(25:53):
as crazy as it sounds like, but I'm just saying
it's not even just that. It was like it's more
than that. It's like pop things matter in hip hop.
Is Kim K relevant permanently? Permanently? She's like Marilyn monroever
whatever that really means. I mean, let me ask you

(26:14):
a question, because I don't know what. I never looked
into it. What made Marilyn Monroe? Why was she? Why
is she popular? What did she do? She was an actress,
but was she like a real actress like I'm talking
about like one time maybe a Julia Roberts type actress.
She didn't have. Yeah, she wasn't like that because it

(26:36):
was just beautiful. She was white people curvy. Yeah, but
she was a thick asshote girl. Though she did a lot.
She was getting knocked down by the president. I wasn't
mad at him. So she was like she was like
her time, like Madonna of her era. No, she's like
Kim K. John is actually talented. Yeah, Like I know

(27:00):
nigas talked about Madonna because we like, oh, but Madonna's
actual Okay, So Marilyn Kim. Kim and Marilyn might have
had a little bit more. Kim is pretty don't She
was like, she's pretty smart and terms of like didn't
she go back to law school and all that, but
that her dad wasn't even a good attorney. But she
got to do with why do you do that? You

(27:23):
cannot do that. That's wrong. You know, that's why you
know out there, especially that one did that had to
do with her. I'm not say because you brought up
her father. I didn't bring her father, I said she

(27:43):
I did not. I said, she seems smart when it
comes to her being an attorney. Was not an attorney.
She became attorney. She literally went back to school and
got her and she went to law school. She's not
an attorney. She passed the baby bar. She's going to
be taking the bar, the baby bar, the baby wi
She's almost there. Hey, Kim, let Kanye see his kids. Man,

(28:05):
don't be like that. I'm not gonna get into this.
I'm not. It's not We're not doing you. Yeah, it's
the most relevant human being on the planet Earth. I'll
never buy another pair of deeds, which we're not gonna
do that on this plot. It's not a political stas,

(28:27):
but we're talking about relevancy. He is relevant to the
most ratio period. But but the point I'm saying is,
I'm not saying Kim okay. So that sounds bad, but
I'm not saying that. I'm saying, you would not let
Kim represent you in the criminal trial? Why not? Pretty good?
Did not? Who was it? Nobody? She's not going to
who'd she get out of jail? She got representing? She

(28:53):
uses her celebrity to leverage cases. She's not like, she's
not in the law library. You look at the books
and she's like, you know what this right here? And
get people out? Did Trump get Kodak black out? Of?
Trump is different? Trump is is the guy 'all he
is is the male version of of of Kim Kardashian.
He ain't got no talent. What's his talent? Trump? I

(29:16):
don't know about no damn talents. Like Trump is like
Thanos and he started cutting checks again, let's put him back.
He's the world's greatest villain, But I don't think I
don't think the world has six like he may be
a greater villain. He maybe what's funny is I think

(29:37):
he may be a greater villain, greater villain than Hitler,
and Hitler actually did fucked up ship Like right now,
people don't look at Biden more funked up than Trump,
and Biden did like atrocities to the black community. You
know why, you know why his Biden is goofy, but
it's it's I'm just telling you. Trump may be the

(30:00):
world's greatest villain ever. I mean, and that could be
an American perspective. He's for sure running on America's greatest villain,
like more than Satan Man. Like if you did a pole,
people hate more Trump or Satan niggas a picked Trump,
but he's going to be what depends if the Dams

(30:21):
try to run Biden. Trump is another person that's really
great at maintained vance. And you're right, like does he
have a talent. I don't think he really has a talent,
but um, one thing he's really good at is well,
I guess he is like Kim Kardashian. That's fair, said
he actually was rich, Well, then that might not. She's

(30:43):
rich to know she wasn't rich like that at first.
Her mom was rich. Her mom always found a way
to get rich that she wasn't rich, Daddy wasn't rich.
They lived in Calabasas. They had money Alabas is the fact.
That's okay, But that that you have to have money
to live over there, really well, I couldn't afford it.
I'm not I'm not looking. Look, I get it that

(31:04):
there's these social norms that we all just go with,
but then there's a reality to it. And I'm sorry
if at times when we do these podcasts, I stick
in the reality. Just because you live in Calabasas don't
mean you're rich. It doesn't mean that, and wasn't you
madn't never be rich, but you are well off if
you live. I think they live a great life, right

(31:26):
because there is an attorney. It was higher than than
middle class, hands down, I agree, But again, rich is far.
Rich is far. I'm not saying you didn't live a
upper class, but everybody in upper class is not rich.
She had a little money. I mean, yes, her dad
was the third or fourth line and the half free

(31:47):
lunch in Calabama. I'm sure I got a relevant questions
since we sell Relevancey you think Chloe is O Jay's daughter?
Look like I think so? She a little bit. She
got the black You know, she looks the most what's
your hands? It looked like old Jay I haven't seen,

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but she's a big girl. You know, it's so cold.
She actually seemed like the coolest one before. She actually
like had all that sh happen to like once she
decided I will not talk abouts on my podcast. We're
talking about you can't bring up relevancy and they're not
talking about people who are they're relevant now moving on,
I'm not going to You have to have talent for

(32:39):
me to be talking about you, like I'm only gonna
talk about Trump so long. Chloe definitely has talent. She
has no you want to know what her talent is.
She has this remarkable just outstanding level of patience she do.

(33:00):
She keep taking them back back. She got a few guys,
that's her thing. All I'm saying is what I'm saying.
That's not bad. I mean, that's she's a cardash just
talking ship bro. So I'm just saying certain people past
simple relevance, right, So I get what he's said. He

(33:22):
was saying, was NAS relevant in the landscape. That's modern
hip hop. NAS is a pop icon. It's no longer
a hip hop store. He's a pop icon. People love Nas.
He is one of those guys, so pop icons are
relevant in hip hop. I don't watch regular TV. Are

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you telling me that there's Hennessey commercials right now? Regular
like channel narrating the motherfucker? Really? Oh see, I don't
watch r F TV plays and ship. Nas is in
business inside vs OP probably because he don't know he
sails all Hennessy. Of course, he says, So you mean

(34:07):
to tell me that your favorite most conscious rappers selling
cone Yes, the destruction of the community and the coach
he is empowering it. You bought it all and he
don't knows. We need you to come to no ceilings
and talk to glasses. I don't have nothing to say
but congratulations. I always knew who Nas was. Y'all believe

(34:28):
he was Jesus Christ and second Coming. I only know
that scar face. You know what? Though? His voice right
now I'm thinking about he's like Marlon Brando. He has
that voice. Nas has ascended into a place of pop
that nobody could really understand. He's a pop I didn't realize.
What's funny is he's literally done that over the last
few years. Like it wasn't like he was always that

(34:50):
pop icon. You could say, well he wasn't. Um it's
happened probably within the last ten years. It's weird to
say it because he he came across the people as
an underground rapper for so long. But I think again,
that's I think that's the nacissist thing. They want to
keep him like, oh, he's ours, and it's like, bro,
he's been left y'all the second album when he did

(35:10):
If I Were the World, he left him, but they
want to hold him down at thematic like hip hop.
I understand that underground hip hop. And then he did
you owe me something? Chi Wally? Mm hmm. I know, man,
why are you guys all hate said? He said the

(35:37):
bodyguard versual best we here you go with that bullshit?
The verse was hard. But but I think NAS hasn't
sent it into pop icon and I think at in
pop HICN status, you're always relevant. Hell, Steven Tyler died
right now. They might take the day off of work,

(35:58):
the one of the lead singers in rock and roll.
Who yeah, I'm saying some people are saying to pop
icon status and when they pass away, you know what
I mean? Like when when they relevant all the time.
Like I think somebody like Ellen John is relevant and
hip hop. You just don't seem like it, but if

(36:20):
something happened, it'll blow your mind. Motherfucker's trip out and
even kids. Madonna is another one, like hip hop rapper
Snap with her. Hip hop rappers slept with her relevant
Ivan's um A, Now you guys saw that. Um so

(36:45):
he is. I don't know. I hate to introduce him
like this, but that is him Amber Rose's baby daddy.
But he's a sheer. That's another person. That's another person
that's relevant. That's what I was thinking of. Right, Yeah,
she's not ready, but I think she's She's world sharing,

(37:11):
you know what, she is a big deal. Do you
believe serious? She hasn't did anything. I'm gonna tell you.
I'm gonna tell you what's called Sunny and Share were
like the white version of Bobby and Whitney. Really, I

(37:34):
don't really know too much that but I just thought
it at their own separate careers and she was so beautiful. Yeah,
but Funny and Share they did. That's a trip out.
This nig just trying to share to Whitney Houston. I

(37:55):
didn't I think they was it violent? Or they fight back.
There something I don't remember. I don't know that. You
don't gonna put that on my mom that my mus
from my mom used to they had some violent altercations.
It came out. He is pretty random, stay correct. That's crazy, ship.

(38:17):
I know she is. You know, I always when she
made that movie about the kid with rock rocky face
and yeah, something like did you think she was attractive? Yes?
For real? Yeah, like when when she was like younger, Yeah,
she used to always look like the Adams, the Adams

(38:37):
family wife. What's her name? The Adam family wife the
kid ain't no, No, that's who Share always reminded me
us mortisan relevant. That's like you were looking at like

(39:04):
I used to share. My people never really looked at
Peg like Peg was hot. She has multiple Yeah, she
was so fine. That was the first white lady I
had a crush on Kelly Bundy, maybe Kelly Kelly that

(39:25):
she just got her star in Hollywood. Finally, she was
the first white lady I had a crush on, like,
he don't tell mom, she was fine for a long time.
She wasn't even find and what was the movie she did?
She did recently as an adult and she was uh

(39:47):
something about the family vacation where she she was fine.
She was already like and what was funny is even
paid Bundy in the Motorcycle Show. She was still fukable
a little little you know, you know who let me
down over time? That is not relevant and you know
that's messed up. Man. See, I gotta watch the podcast

(40:07):
Lark vorhees bro. She was fired. She was fired on
saying by the bell it wasn't she was fired, I
just I don't know what happened, like she didn't age well,
I don't know something. Yeah it didn't work out though, Yeah,
I'm just being honest. I'm not worried out. You know

(40:29):
who actually worked out, not even think it was gonna
work out. Jesse. Oh, Jesse was fine. You know, nobody
ever knew. No, that's when she became the ship. Yeah,
that's when you was like, we seen it when she

(40:51):
did this. What was lark character name Lisa? It was
all about Lisa and Kelly after that fucking movie Nigus
wouldn't he been talking about Lisa and Kelly no more?
It was all about I'm mad that more people back
then didn't represent like nobody like as a Mexican. We
never I never heard the Mexican community Champion um Mario Lopez. Yeah, like,

(41:17):
no one ever talked about that because he was kind
of like a white person. I mean, he was playing
like a white person on the show. But I'm just
saying his name was still Mario. They never talked about it,
Like I didn't find out, Like, first of all, I
never read credits at that age, you know, really, but
then I really never even found out that he was
like spoke Spanish and everything to like his characters. Yeah,

(41:42):
but you would think like that would be something that other.
That's like, that's like Charlie Estevez. That's like people talking
about Charlie Estevez. He's the man though, because he kept
his name, he didn't change. Charlie. That is Charlie Sheen.
That's the point. That's why Mexican people don't celebrate Charlie Sheen. IMMLI,
we do have fast Wait what Charlie she Charlie's real

(42:06):
name is Charlie Estevant. He's Mexican. Yeah, he's no, he's
Martin Sheen. So that's how Charlie put Charlie Sheen changed
to get in the Hollywood. But the like I'm keeping
my name, keeping my name. What I'm saying, start talking like, so,

(42:28):
Charlie Sheen is Charlie is relevant? Do you think Charlos
will forever be relevant? For what if Charlie she ever
changed his name back to Charlie Esteviant would be funny.
He did a press conference, I'm going by charl what's
his name? That played? Uh? A person of color? Charlie

(42:49):
estevis person of Now they're all they're they're very whitewashed.
I've never even heard them speaks bash. If they do,
what if the media est just bust out speech, I
might have it. I might just look at him a
little different because even that that ship don't matter. Spanish
is the conquerors language anyway, but yeah, that Spaniard ship
for all of us, the real language is something I

(43:10):
never understood why y'all be so proud of that, like
speaking English. Like if people be like talking proper English,
I'm like, you don't even talk proper speak American English
English English don't sound like this because they're not relevant.
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