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March 14, 2023 51 mins

Glasses Malone is back joined by Aja and Britt to kick off Season 3 of No Ceilings. They're discussing illusion of thuggin' and the lack of accountability from those who take thuggin' too far. Tune in a listen to the perspectives of the No Ceilings crew and join the conversation in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wash up and welcome back to another episode of No
Sillers Podcast with your host not fuck that with your
low classes Malone in twenty twenty three. Motherfucker's just talking bad.

(00:23):
If you're just saying exactly what happened. If you say
what happened, you're talking bad. So King fucked up the
moonlights in the in the in the studio. He fucked
him up two days ago. May you ain't been up
in this motherfucker. He fucked him up two days ago
and never told me. So I couldn't have Bill come
out and you know, figure out what's wrong, right, because

(00:44):
it is pretty easy to be the little damn right
up here, Sonny and so. But I was sure because
King was just saying he was like, uh, he was saying, like, uh, man,
she I got my mic queued up right, you know,
just in case he talks shit and I'm like, you
talking shit, And I'm like, nigga, you really fucked up

(01:06):
the mic? How was that me talking shit? It's the truth, man,
you messed up the whole vibe. Where's the mood lights?
Where the mood lights? I'm glad we got King back.
Welcome back, King King. Oh it's a pleasure being back.
Now now you putting on his left the I'm like,

(01:26):
what's going on now? Is King just my radio voice? Now?
It's my radio voice? And they ain't got no list,
no more than nothing like I know your bondics and stuff.
King is the original engineer for No Seilers. But then
he just laughed randomly. Africa. Yeah, I want to mental journey,

(01:49):
spiritual journey. How was that? Oh beautiful? Wow? The jungles
of the city is crazy. Wow? Wait what party? Yeah,
we gotta talk about that. Yeah. I went to Compton
and you know Inglewood. Yeah, that's the Angel was here

(02:12):
to help. So Angel was on the US. It's Angel, right, yep,
Angrew was on the splitter. So we had to do
something different with no siblings. If you're watching it today
is uh I have a teller tending reconstruction surgery. It's
where they actually replace attending that goes from your knee
to o'shin. So they screw it down into yoshin. It's

(02:35):
attending from a cadaver, a dead body, and they screw
it down into yoshin bone and then they put anchors
in your knee cap, which is called the pateeller. And
then they put the tending together and tied up and
put it down. Oh my god. Yeah, that was like
real life surgery. Then it was a major surgery. It

(02:56):
was a major surgery. That's almost kind of crazy because
the doctor made me think like I was gonna pop
back up becausin like a week. He's like, you're gonna
have to not like walk in right, but like you'll
be rehabbing in a week because it's been too much.
Has it been like six weeks? And yeah, it's been
a minute, And you know me, I'm not like yeah, right,

(03:19):
but I told but we told you that ge. We said,
like knee surgery is like knee surgery, and shit still
got knee surgery that nigga was walking in the week.
But I don't know, you got like this different type
of Yeah, it's a complete tending reconstruction. So how did
that happen? Like hooping myself up too big into and

(03:41):
probably because like you were supposed to have that done
a while ago, so you probably made it worse by
not having it done. So the first month, we're supposed
to get it done in a week, so whatever day
pass a week was too far. Oh yeah. But my
point is I ain't complaining. I'm glad we got king
back feel me. Shit. So we're up in this motherfucker

(04:03):
for the start of season three, and y'all was saying
something to me that was crazy. I was like, man,
because Charlotte Mane said the same thing. He like, gee,
I think you could have a podcast bigger than Joe's
Joe Buddons. I was like, well, I don't really get
the theme of how podcasts worked to even know if
it could be good or not. Man, you know what
I mean, I don't quite know, but I didn't like it.

(04:25):
This is the third season. I think we're like, um,
a hundred and like forty episodes in, so it's like
I'm just starting to kind of like it. How could
you not like like you you always have something to say,
nothing that could you not like you have opinions about

(04:46):
a lot of different things. So this is gonna be crazy, right,
this is it's gonna surprise you motherfuckers. Okay, right, I
don't like talking. You could have fool me where what
I know, It's like, it's like crazy to believe that
Glasses Malone. Don't like talking, Get out of here. Don't

(05:08):
like talking. Okay, it just sounds crazy to people because
if you know me, you like what glasses talks to me.
I ask most people who don't know me, I don't
got nothing to say to the motherfucker's I don't like
when I'm build. Yeah, like I won't talk to you
like what's up? What's up? That's it. That's it belief

(05:32):
that I like talking, And I think because as I
think any any positive sale, you know, the job of
a healthy sale is to share information. So I try
my best to share information. You share good stuff. I tried, right,
but I think it made people believe somewhere alone the
line that I like talking. But I think it's good

(05:53):
because people get to like hear you and like understand
like who you are. Because yeah, if you if you
don't talk, like you said, I don't, you know, I
don't talk unless I know you. So now you know,
the podcast to get a chance to see what's what's
going on in your mind, and it bothers me more
like so this is crazy, right, I don't like talking. Right,

(06:15):
What I'll be trying to do is if we have
something going on, like for example, let's say the giants
dousing Joey, Right, that's the la Johns is a rap
group that I've been helping, you know, helping the market
their own stuff, they own label, and I'm talking to
them like I'm calling them, and I think there's a
belief I want to talk to you because I don't
want to talk to you. I just have to because

(06:37):
we're trying to accomplish something. So if I'm sharing information
on Twitter, right, I'm just trying to be you know,
a healthy sale with share information. But then I find
motherfucker's be crazy. And I'm starting to really realize, like
head always say people stupid, and I don't think people stupid.
I just think people are intellectually lazy. They don't have

(06:58):
the time or they just lay then don't want to
make the time to think. You definitely got to make
the time to think. Yeah, and that's a lot of
that's a lot of time you need. You don't need
think about it. If you work eight dollars, you can't
really think because you think you can't think on you
can't think. You're not really thinking about anything you want

(07:19):
to think about when you at your hard job, when
you BET's drive through traffic rid you you know what
he just how much time? Man? I mean as shoo.
I'm like, okay, let me get this together. You know,
I got about fifteen twenty minutes to think. I try

(07:40):
to get up like thirty minutes before, you know, for work,
like that hard trip on down there to the office
to man, you know what I'm saying, I gotta you know,
steps get read as crazy. It's all kind of stuff.
Might be like, you know, maybe some toys. You know. Wait,
did you say traffic? Yes, this food work at home.

(08:06):
She goes from her bedroom to her office. That's what
she was saying. So much traffic. Oh my goodness, you
know nah, but no, you I mean, you know, I
really thinking like that. Yeah, I mean, I don't think
people are well, maybe people are stupid, but I don't
think people are you know, that's stupid. I think that

(08:27):
it does. There's a lot of times where it's like, um,
I don't always think I just kind of just just
do autopilot, just go. Yeah, I can feel I can
feel that I was just telling Uh. I mean the
point I was making no worse podcasting that I think

(08:47):
you genuinely have to enjoy talking to some degree to
have a great podcast. So I'm trying to find more
of a space, but joy. When it's something that you
want to get, those times will come in. Be like, man,
I've been thinking about this all weeken, Like that's when
you want to talk about shit. You may not want
to talk about shit all the time, but you do
have a moment where really ill be wanting to read

(09:09):
about it. To be honest, like when I figure out something,
but let me go read about this. My first thing
ain't to call y'all to black Nick. Let me tell
you what happened nomation after you read it, because if
it's a healthy sale, so I share information, but I
don't call King, like if I called King to talk

(09:30):
to him it's something I need to talk about. I'm
not finding something black men, I need to talk to
you about this shit I just learned. Look at this.
It has to it has to come along within whatever
we're doing. But long, straight short, I have made it
my purpose in season three to to really try to
push us over the top, to get the Cousins podcast,

(09:52):
going to get read alert, going to get what's your thing?
Brit Kitty Corner will say, yeah, fucking raglar, I know
no ceiling. Season three, Red wise Up, Red Wise Up?

(10:16):
Going on in this motherfu glasses out today. That's because
I putting on them contacts, you'd be I'd be laid
I'm being laid up man Glasses because oh, I mean,
it's not like a name that don't it's really a
hold up. First of all, because I didn't. My name

(10:39):
wasn't meant to be cool. My name was a joke
with the homies, like they were making fun of me
because I couldn't see, and I had a pair of
glasses for like two days when I lost them and
where your glasses at? And then Pluck being an asshole,
started calling me glasses wow, and then glasses low became
my name from just seventeen streak. But you fight enough, motherfuckers,

(11:02):
you pop some pistols, you go to jail, hold your
ship down, Glasses becomes a different thing. It's like, oh
that nigga glasses. But yeah, it wasn't I didn't choose mine.
I would have chose a lot cooler names too. Yeah,
I would have chose a lot cooler name than Glasses.
I like my name could have been you know, uh,
you know, Cryp captain. I sound like a hard cryp name.

(11:25):
It's the honey for sixty His name crip Charlie. That's
the hardest name in the river. Charlie Crip Charlie. That's
a hard game banger. Glasses glasses glasses low, very big
glasses luck too. So like I'll be thinking about shit
like that, Like if I would have picked my name,
I would have picked a cooler name. I could have
been like a so Plug wanted me. They wanted me

(11:46):
to be little Plug, but pluck was crazy. So I
wasn't being cused little. I wasn't sign enough for none
of that. That nigga was crazy. What could have been
my gang name? Let me take off so you can
see scripping. You can see this cripping. Oh, I can't

(12:10):
even think of a fucking name, right, So I was
thinking about different names, but oh no, what's your what
you come up with? I didn't come up with no
name because it was like I always feel like a
name was something somebody should give you. Niggas be naming
their selves. Some cool niggas a name themself. Names that

(12:31):
don't fit nigga nigga NA, it'd be a blood nigga NA.
C k red he hasn't killed one crib shout out
because I don't know it's really a nigga. Nak I
killed a lot of crips, not you, because I'm saying
if a nigga named itself, he gonna always he not
gonna name himself appropriately. But when they usually call a
nigga spooky is because he dark. Oh okay, like yeah, Moon,

(12:55):
my older homie Moon. His face is kind of alone,
like nigga's really got really real. People were really calling
him this and it just stuck with Yeah, niggas, but
you shit, like you know, yeah, it's like a nigga
name Buggie, but he can't dance, right, that's not a
cool I don't know no buggies that can't can't you know, Buggie? Yeah,

(13:20):
but I was thinking about that. You ever thought you
ever met a nigga name who name don't fit? I'm sure,
I'm sure I have your whole life. His name just
don't fit a thug nigga, like that's your name? Like huh, Well,
I knew a guy named Brandy. Brandy No, like a

(13:44):
thug name, that's his his hood name. Brandy? Oh what
was his name? No? Like a name that could be
a game bagging name for nigga drank too much yeah, yeah,
Brandy yea not from not not no hood name. Yeah,

(14:04):
that would kind of be you know what I'm saying, Hey,
Brad ain't gonna work you ever better? Nigga nigga? Oh shit,
no that's not a hood Is that a hood name?
Six pack for sure? That's okay. Yeah, no, nigga didn't
drink that. That should not have been his name. It

(14:25):
didn't fit drink. I think she's thinking of that. Oh oh,
I'm thinking thinking a six pack. The promoter he never
had a six pack, or did he? I don't So

(14:45):
you didn't think it was about at I don't know.
I didn't think it was you ain't got no abs, nigga,
that's what you thought? Okay wait I didn't Well, I
wouldn't have thought that, but yeah, I didn't even think
about that. They name thugging the ship was like they
just change a bitch as name. Well, my ex like
rest in peace. Um. I didn't understand why I called

(15:06):
him too too. Oh oh that's something you call somebody
when they little, but it's stuck with him like that's
his homies called him my homeboy, my homeboy named Boody Brown. Oh.
The niggas a grown ass crep in the prison and
did all condemn. We still called the body. I hear
stone cold load did time ain't ten body, but it's

(15:29):
got his hood name. That's a good name. Wow Boo
Boody Brown, Booty Brown, I think it, but I think
that's his auntie's. I think that was a character from
like an older thing and it stuck. But you know
what I mean, Like my homeboy run round name Run
Run Yeah, okay, Casper, my homeboy Casper, name Casper because

(15:50):
he light skinny, but okay, that go. Yeah. I don't
think nobody really got to name. They still name myself.
I bet you did, bet you, But yeah, somebody could
get the name too too, because it just kind of
carry on with your little kid and people call it mookies.

(16:12):
Is like that us somebody they parents called the mookie
and it just kept going. I love SOMEONEI think I
know two mookies. Yep. I do what y'all think about
thugs in general? What you mean just nigga stugging? What

(16:32):
you love about? I like that thug love, not just playing.
Let me stop. I don't like what do you mean what?
Because I'm saying, what is thug loving particular. I was
about okay in particular because as a thug, I just
didn't know what I should have. I mean, I could
just tell you what I like, what I called thug loving.
What is it that real rough like grab you up

(16:55):
and shit, like take you with choke you you know,
like yeah, sometimes that might worry slap you know, none
of that, you know, smack your ass or something gets
the wall ship like that thud love you know, ain't
no rough, yeah rough, just take it from me. Yeah
that's that girl. When about that shit today? But when

(17:16):
does it become like where it could be like right,
we like no and he just keep going in there.
Oh no, that's what I'm talking about. That permission. Yes,
of course that's not fucking thugging, man, I mean you're saying,
but I mean sometimes I might he might be like
come here, girl, I'll be like, oh I was fucking
not thugging. Okay, So don't switch fast, switch slow, always

(17:38):
switch slow, don't switch on everything. Thud love, I mean
the passion thud love whatever. Yeah, that's you know, that's
for me. You ask for me because asking I'm asking, Okay,
Well that's for me. That's what I kind of just
make it rough. Yeah, you know what I mean, A
lot a lot of squares. They don't know how. They
don't do that. I'll just take it from they don't. Yeah,

(18:00):
they don't take it. Or they might want to, like
make love to you, and shit, you might want the
thug love that night and he might be like, oh baby,
just want to corresh you, and you might be like no,
like I want you to just be like come here,
like yeah, but sometimes you want him to corresh you. Yeah,
but sometimes you do. You should be able to switch
it up. I believe you should, but your nerves to

(18:20):
be thugging sure, just take off his glasses and his
pocket protector and just get out of the streets for
the nigga. You gotta be able to have him, you know.
You gotta be able to do both. You gotta be
smart though, too. You gotta be very smart. Like I
gotta be loked out. I can't help it. No, that's
just fucking silly. I know sounds wrong with me. I've

(18:41):
I've openly admitted it. I know something that's wrong with me.
And it's altogether what you mean, We're not gonna do
this today. It's not, but it's not a gender wars.
It really if women really do want everything at once,
you really feel like a nigga should be like rough,
but don't take it too far, but take it just
far enough to run. Well, Yeah, because you should, Yeah,

(19:02):
you should know what I like? Just silly? You know,
we're having fun? It's not. Why is it not fun?
Why do you always say that it's fun? Gee? It
can be fun? Yes, it is. What do you do
over and over that's fun outside? What what do you
do outside of your spouse that you do over and

(19:23):
over and that's fun. Tell me something you do it's
cooking fun, Like I'm having fun? Everything's fun? Well, cleaning cleaning,
I'm cleaning up, but don't have fun cleaning. No, but
it's different. Tell me something you do all the time
that's fun all the time, every day, every day, that's fun.

(19:48):
I don't do it. I don't do anything every day.
I mean you've done. Was going to school fun? When
you was in a school all the time? Was it
fun all the time? So the point I'm making is
that ship is probably not fun because it's pretty much
the same shit. Right, that's just relating the material. It's not.
It don't have to be the same thing all the time.
It's the same thing all the time, okay, And it
don't have to be the same thing all the time.

(20:10):
How could it not be, because now you're gonna have thug,
you're gonna be doing some different thing. Thanks you just
black your eyes. Why are you guys watching about that?
We're just talking about nah, not just you know, because
y'all know thugging is against the rules. Yeah, you know,
if you set the rules and he doesn't go against it,

(20:32):
it's not really thugging. But if they have to do it,
if we gotta do what he you know what he
say to Doe, you feel me and we win it.
I mean even when you don't want to, you know.
I mean that's what comes with relationships. You ain't gonn
always want to do. Give me some just good just
good texts. Yeah, there you go. I mean that's the
good too, good loving. But he said, what I think

(20:55):
about thugs, I said, I don't really know. Just I
know that, but it's job Miranda thug who John morand
the basketball one with the one with the gun, the
flash the gun. Oh no, I don't think he's a thing.
So that what's the thing, that's what I'm said, because

(21:15):
because because y'all, y'all just gave me the concept of
thugging where it's like based off your permission and whatever
you approve of. And I'm like, well, what if you
just want to wap your ass upside the head in
the middle of it. You're like, nah, that's too far,
But that wouldn't be thugging. Okay, so it's with permission,
it ain't so okay, what's the thing. So the way

(21:38):
I look at it, the thug is somebody who just
doesn't mind the rules. Okay, you're gonna do what he
what she gonna do, ain't gonna mind the rules for me.
So if you if you mind the rules, you know
what I mean, you're not thugging. Right. Oh So I
used to like the I used to like THEX, but

(22:02):
now no, I just like you. You know, you gotta
be reformed, like you gotta have a little bit in
you when you need it, a lot in you, I know,
a little bit a lot. Yeah, No, we're not breaking
any rules. We're not we're not doing all that. So
you don't like, yeah you know, no, I guess not said,

(22:23):
but you said reforms. So they used to let Yep,
they used to be. They're not breaking the rules now.
You just want to know they broke the rules before.
Tell me about them stories, baby, no about you know
back when I was, you know, dating thugs, I didn't care.
So you know you like that when he broke the rules,

(22:45):
like that, break the rules? Yeah me, uh no, I
don't know. They always attracted me. It was it was
on you like, hey, like, oh okay, I just think
the cornerstone. I just think the cornerstone of why women
like us because I've been noticing a lot of different

(23:06):
people doctor boys, watkins, different people like speak hard against
people from the streets, and they're like, oh man, you
know if you like that kind of guy. The reason
they liked that kind of guy is because those guys
are experienced at protecting themselves and protecting things. So women
naturally go for providers or protector, somebody that's gonna earn
a lot of money, you know what I mean, and

(23:27):
provide a lifestyle that that you know, he gonna provide
your lovelihood or protector somewhere where you're gonna go with
somebody somewhere and you know, y'all not both gonna get
your last what Yeah, So I think that's the natural
thing to where you look at him like all right,
I'm gonna be all right with this nigga. Oh yeah
for sure, because uh that's I dated someone and I knew.

(23:49):
I was like, oh no, I can't. I said that time,
and I said I saw him get baked up, and
I was like, oh no, yeah, he can't be together.
Like you ain't gonna beble to protect me. I don't.
That's a big thing though, Like you like, do you

(24:09):
want to feel protective for like that's like my man,
I have to feel like safe, like I think most
women will want that, Like I just won't feel safe
like I feel like you know, I mean he might
mean things, and I know anything can happen, but still
just to know that your your dude is a protector,
it's mean a lot for me. I mean, you know

(24:33):
he's strapped, you know how. That's what I'm saying things.
Yeah you good, it's asia just don't be wanting to
pick up the pistol, but you feel me it's she's there.
Oh no, I wasn't even turned what I wasn't turning

(24:53):
about my situation saying you got I'm just saying no protector.
I don't even know sector protected. I know that I
definitely have exactly. Yeah, So I just feel like thugging
just been taking a hit at I was looking at

(25:17):
something and Troy av and Uh Taxton was going back
in for folk social media. Troy Avers a wrapper from
New York. Taxton was a podcaster that's from the East Coast.
Two real dope brother but um, they got into the
whatever shenanigans that happened in New York and somebody got shot.
And before this whole case happened, Troy Avenue was like

(25:41):
he was big thugging on every record, he got ship
moving in the streets, He's selling dope, he got a song.
All that shit was about selling dope and thugging and
the street lifestyle, you know, things like that. And then
he gets into this situation and tax Don gets arrested,
and now I was looking crazy where like Troy Avenues

(26:01):
could get in trouble for whatever he did that day
at this place unless he actually implicates tax done in
the crime. And so ever, since this happened, I've watched
Troy Avenue go on this motherfucking tangent because of talking
down about street life. You know, and it just blows

(26:24):
me away. Somebody could be thugging that hard before, but
then now when it's time to be the actual main
thing that makes thugging work, which is accountability, is I
want to avoid myself of accountability. And somewhere along the
line somebody has to think that that's masculine. Oh he's
being a man. You ask if everybody cut the fucking

(26:48):
phone off and you didn't. He was he didn't want
he doesn't want to be accountable. And I was in
the comments zone academics page and it was like, I'm like,
please don't tell dog. And somebody said, well, gee, you
want him to take the blame for all I'm like, no,

(27:09):
I don't want him to take them. I want him
to be accountable for whatever he did that day and
let the state prove their own case on anybody else involved.
I don't want like you're like, you're if you get
in trouble, it's because of what you did exactly. See,
thugging and gangsterism is still all rooted in accountability masculinity. Right.

(27:32):
It's like, I don't care about whatever laws this government
sets up for me. I'm going to go pass it
and I'm going to thrive or I'm going to do
whatever I need to get done because this is the
best I know how, right, or this makes the most
sense to me, But it also means you got to
be accountable. So somebody like that, right. I was looking

(27:53):
at Troy ass situation right where he's taught, where he thugging,
and now it's like you got in trouble. It's like
you don't want to thug them all. The streets are
a myth. No, they wasn't. That's why you got shot.
The streets are not a myth, Nigga, These motherfucker's It's real.
Because if you had your ass somewhere where the streets wasn't, that,
you wouldn't have got shot. You know what I mean,

(28:13):
keep your ass up there. You can take your ass
to dumbbo or any other place where it's cool. Do
you won't get shot? Maybe? He said maybe, maybe, because
you can't get shot. And I was looking at that,
and I was looking at John marand where they're like, oh,
well John marand they really a thug like that he
grew up playing basketball, And I'm like, well, he looked

(28:34):
like he's trying to subscribe. So I don't know, whatever
y'all want to say. And it's like, oh, well, why
would he want to do that? And I'm like, well,
I don't know. And then I was looking at the
Sean kempshit. Oh yeah, that that was some weird stuff.
I just still didn't understand how he got I said
it was a drive by racist. There was some racist

(28:55):
shit king king is uh from up there where shine
them be at? And they said the dude shot at him,
and he shot back at the dude. I saw the video.
I saw this shot back at him. So what happened?
What what what had happened was, um, somebody stole his

(29:19):
property and he tracked his iPhone to the location. And
when he was getting up on the car, they say,
somebody popped on his ass and then he popped back,
so they dropped all the cases. But it was weird
that they called it the drive boy. That's what I
was saying. Like he wasn't like leaning out the car
and busting on foods or nothing like that. I guess

(29:41):
because he drove up, you know, he wasn't he got
out his car walk. Yeah, I'm seeing got his car
got the car walk. I think that was raceship. But
the point I was saying, and like these last few weeks,
I've been watching thug and taking a hit and as
a proud thug, as a proud gang member, right like

(30:02):
proud like right? I mean you are definitely that. I
just feel like the cornerstone is accountability. The final thing
is like, what you did, what you did? Okay? Are
you willing to deal with whatever you did because you
know we're operating outside of society's rules. Yeah, I don't
think you should get involved in anything if you're not

(30:24):
ready to um to what might have that may happen that, Yeah,
do it. So let's say if you was dating to
god read, Let's say the guy you're dating and uh,
some shit happened, he's somewhere they own scene, doing anything whatever,

(30:47):
and they get into a situation with a nigga and
they get to popping. Boom boom boom. You know your
guy is potting boom boom. Maybe somebody trying to take
their car, maybe not buy with a gun, but they
trying to take their car, trying to steal their car.
They get the bum boom boom, and get the bust
on him. Dude die, the dude who was trying to

(31:08):
steal their car. So right, your guy get away, but
the guy who was the other guy shooting, there was
no the other guy get away that was shooting. So
they get your guy, right, but they don't get the
other guys. The police the police, and they're saying like, hey,

(31:30):
we will give you ten years. We will give you
ten years or less. Time. We know your bullets didn't
go on the guy even though you were shooting. We
got your shellcases from the scene, but it is a
felony murder. But we want the guy who actually pulled
the trigger and killed them. And your guy knows who
that guy is, right because they were together. They friends,

(31:52):
And like, if you give us that guy, we'll all
let you go. What do you do as a girlfriend?
What do you mean what I do? Do you encourage
your god to tell no? Why would I know? I mean,
I'm like, damn, I don't want. I mean, you know
what I'm saying, this whole situation to happen, But no,

(32:12):
I'm never gonna be like even though you got a
little baby, you got to raise his baby yourself for
the next twenty years. Thing do you encourage him to
be like, gon't tell no, I'm no I'm gonna be like,
we're gonna get we need a lawyer that's gonna freaking
fight this that you know what I'm saying, we don't
have to worry about doing that. And what if the

(32:34):
lawyer says, look, because he's trying to get to the bottom. No,
it's true though, Like, so let's sell your attorney. Say look,
he said, love, I can get this thing. I can
get him to offer you. We can get this down
to fourteen years. He won't do twenty five to life.

(32:54):
But if you tell us, if he tells us who
this guy is, we'll let him go. He could come
raise y'all baby with y'all see you know what you
do that. They do that shit and they be on bullshit.
So I will tell that nigga. No, we're getting a
good ass lawyer. Because the lawyer tell you this, we
get another one. What if this lawyer is like, look, man,

(33:16):
like you're going to jail for this unless you tell
you may we may not give you twenty five years,
but I can get you thirteen years as a deal.
That's fucked up. But he did that then because he
already took the risk knowing that I go over here
with this damn baby. I'm seeing that shit on social
media where this rapper baby mama from the one of

(33:38):
Atlanta niggas in that whole, that whole third case of shit.
She was like encouraging a guy to tell like till
we got to raise these kids. And I'm like, I've
seen that. She was on the phone with them, you
whole ass bitch. Yeah, she was on the phone with
them telling them that she she doesn't understand. Like if
you know someone that's in incarcerated or you know somebody
that's done real time, you know, shit is way different,

(33:59):
and this is him. It is fucked up in correct,
Like you can't be and once you signed on to
doing some shit anyway, you already know that there's a
chance or risk for whatever. So everybody know what the
fuck is going on. So no, like you can't. Could
you be with a Snitchell? I just I couldn't because
I I didn't. So if I didn't, you you shouldn't.

(34:21):
Were you a square? Could you be with a sniche?
You found out that nigga talking, I'm a square, But
my man gotta be he gotta be all nigga try
to be the spinach like it like I'm showing different things.

(34:43):
Ain't baby, just some spinach. Check what I'm saying. Taste
slam right here, you know what I'm saying. Taste that
time that Rosemary pick. It's good. Yeah, like, baby, you'll
get a body with this bullshit good hums and weak

(35:04):
the end. Oh that hummas real white lady, b I like, hummus.
I know you put me onto that one that I like,
I don't know about you're doing. That's doing a little Yeah,

(35:25):
that's nasty. I So now I was just asking because
I just, like I said, this whole last three weeks,
stugging just been taking a hit, and I just thought
that was weird to wear people. I think we're going
into a space and I've been saying this of bitch
ass niggas and it's like we talked about this, but

(35:45):
it's almost kind of at full pinnacle definitely, because it's
like they're like, yeah, you need to tell all of
the names, like kid gee, you know, why should he
go to jail, nigga, He's going to jail for his
own crimes. If he go to jail, right, the only
reason he would tell is to avoid his own crimes.
They said he had to tell on this. Nigga, you
still getting this, You're still getting the time you're getting
for your charges, right, would you tell then if you

(36:08):
won't get twenty king, if you won't get twenty years,
no matter what you're like, what if I tell woul
y'all short my time, Like, Nope, you're getting this twenty
but your conscious will be clear, your conscious. You will
be helping us to prosecute people in this society because
you want to come out. That's what they'd be saying. Oh,
motherfucking what's that show me? Nigga told me, man's together.

(36:38):
They scared your conscious was the answer that question. And
I'm going to do the time, sure, and I know
that there's no question about it. But I've said, would
niggas be telling if they got their own twenty years?
Let me tell you right now, in my cases personal cases,
they all told faster than the police given asked who

(36:58):
did it? So like it was that nigga King. Yeah.
I've been in the world where these tough niggas on
the street tell all day long when it comes to
jail time, see, and I've been in the world with
tough niggas actually holding steady together I've seen some niggas
tail though. Nigga told on my moment that it was
her man and if and if you would have told,

(37:22):
she would have only got sixty months. They would have
both got sixty months. Oh wow, but how can you
tell on any woman like that? Like a lot of
bites they soft. Now. I genuinely think in general right
that women should be You shouldn't even have women in thuggery.

(37:42):
There it is right there. I don't give a fuck
how down a woman say she is. I don't give
a fuck if it's Fossey Brown, little Kim, any of
them motherfuckers remy my lovely death. No, nope, no, because
because you can never be considered a snitch. No, but
that's cool. When you see it, you'd be like, and
you don't get the same respect my mama to give respect.

(38:04):
Nobody was like, oh, she didn't even tell. It was
like she didn't tell. She tripping niggas. It'spect women. My
mom though too, she said that they when they raided
our house and everything, she went to jail. Whatever, she
didn't tell or nothing like that. But no, it was
different though they did. They was like, oh yeah, that's
what's up you know you didn't tell, but it was
like it ain't the same, not the same. It's like,

(38:25):
now you didn't tell tripping because you can't really call
no girl, no rat. They'd be calling it's a laddy
that worked with Jay Desert La ladies tall Like, Bro,
you can't call nobody mama a snitch full right, somebody mama,
Like we're gonna raise the kid, the daddy, no this,
Let this lady go get her shit together. Just did

(38:47):
her dad daddy go to jail because she he gonna
need this. But yeah, so I just was thinking about
take them both. Yeah, let the kids raised that system
now just every week now, thugging is taking a hit,
and it's just like super deflating makes me not want

(39:09):
to be a thug. Sometimes I'd be like, damn man,
I need to check out. And they'll just be a
regular civilian. They be calling the police. He know he
can't do that. He be a regular civilian. He's just
throwing that I could be a regular civilian. I'll be

(39:30):
telling all you niggas right now, every time I see
you niggas committed, I would be the best civilians, Like, yeah,
I'll be around this motherfucker like blank man reporting crimes
on you. Niggas couldn't do it, I don't think, But
I don't think that's really nothing wrong like I think
civilians feel me. You supposed to agree with you there,
Yeah yeah, you're not even this, Yeah yeah, I agree.

(39:54):
Civilians shouldn't be You supposed to be a form of
the police owned property. Now, if you start playing with people,
that's different. But if you were serviliant and you see
a lady getting raped, you're supposed to call the fucking police.
I'm supposed to go over there and fucking nick up
she has. Thus I supposed to be the police and
didn't run away like that exactly for the police. Get

(40:14):
he supposed to be leaking this ship. He's supposed to
be baking this shit. I like them. I'm supposed to
go to jail for stabbing this nigga that was raping
this lady, and they're gonna give me less time because
I stabbed him for raping. But we know justice was served.
See that's how they always asking me, like glasses, Look,

(40:36):
if you not spos so, if you saw a kid,
if you knew a pedophile lived in your neighborhood that
was raping four or five year old kids. You wouldn't
call the police that nigga be there? Yea somebody to
be calling the police to come find his dead body.
They need to do a wellness check. You you wouldn't
call the police. Why would I let the authorities deal?
This is too much of a great opportunity to write

(40:58):
a spiritual wrong going on in the world? What about you?
Remember you saw what that lady did right with her
husband found out that oh in jail, she found out
that he was molesting the kids of their daycare and
she shot u. She shot She didn't kill him, but
she she shot him supposed to. Yeah, she got four
years now do a little time. She could have killed him.

(41:19):
They probably got got her out like fire. She lost
a good moment. She she she took it. I think she
tried to do but she shot him in the neck
and um somewhere else. But she I think she was
trying on leg like no, she faking because if you
really wanted to kill them, this girl in the stores
they killed. I think she was trying to shot them
in the lower regions because where she shot him, that

(41:40):
was but I was off. That was hurt in pain
because he cheated. But you know what it is. What
it is is that is God damn, that's not cheating.
What them that she show them the lower lower extremity.
That's not trying to kill them. That's trying to again, right,
that's not trying to kill You can't say this shit

(42:01):
out loud. We're gonna get canceled the first day. I
forgot these words. I forgot so what words I can't.
I can't say nothing to alphabet right, and okay, let
us let us talk for right now. To just hold

(42:23):
up smoote your mic kid, because you getting sucked up.
He said, Blester was cheating on his white That is
not hold if that's not but no, that is Like,
I think the world is a better place when there's
a little bit of vigilante justice. I think without it,
how does slavery? You know, how does anything change without

(42:44):
vigilante justice? Long as this is justice, it can't just
be random acts of silliness, you know what I mean?
Where Like I understand if you still brand from somebody
because you're starving. I get some I get some crimes
what I'm saying, But I do think landing justice is
a necessary thing for any healthy society. Yeah, I mean,

(43:04):
and you gotta be okay. We're going to jail for
vigilante justice too, So that's my point. M I didn't
like it. You know, it's funny. The first time I
went to jail, I cried. I didn't boohoo, but I
was just crying tears, and all I thought about was

(43:27):
my mom was gonna kill Like my mom probably still
top I've probably been in thirty thirty fights with thirty
different niggas my life. My mom still top five hardest punchers,
and I'm talking about twenty of them has grown men.
My mom's still top five. All I thought was the
ship she was gonna do to my face. And I
realized I was eighteen, and I was like, oh cool,
Like I didn't any matter no more. It was like,

(43:48):
that's cool. I used to be so terrified that my
mom whipping my ass. I probably couldn't whoop my mom
till I was like twenty. I had to get about
four more inches, way better hands, and then I could
have whipped it. Not saying I will fight my mom
that's a soul, but just being honest, I couldn't take
her like, not at seventeen or eighteen. She is way

(44:08):
too fast. She'd probably been in fifty fights. Who I
wish I would have swung back one tide she had,
like I've been waiting for this day. Whoop your fucking ass.
You didn't get whooping. That's it makes sense. No, Like
my I can count, like how many whippings I had

(44:29):
or whatever. I used to just get on punishment and
we and my brother used to laugh because my mom
had to work, so we punishment, punishments over as soon
as you leave the house. That's why you was drinking
and driving. Yeah, but that was my late that was worse,
and I was doing it all the other times. You
just never got caught. Like when I didn't start driving.
You know, I didn't start driving, nigga, nigga, You've been

(44:50):
driving over ten years for sure. Yeah, but I wasn't drinking.
I wasn't drinking and driving then I didn't. I didn't
even barely want to drive yet I was driving, but
I wasn't. Like so when it was the first time
you drunk and drive, you drank and drive. I probably
was in my nose. I had to have been, like
in my thirties, so I was kind of scared. Cap
I'm not bullshitting I was kind of scared of drive caps.

(45:14):
Do you know why, listen, do you know why I
didn't drive until that long. It's because I was had
a fear of driving, be honest with you. And what
made me go and get my license was after I
had my son and my son got sick and I
had to wait for my grandmother to get off work
to take me to take my son to the hospital.
And that's when I said to myself self, Grandma, you know, self,
you gotta learn how to drive. It not for yourself,

(45:36):
for your kids. And that's what the fuck made me drive.
That's dope. That's why I all the way from they
came to see my cousins in suf That's what I
was saying to you. Read like that's a part of
cooking and stuff, like when you have kids, Like you've
been feeding your kid Artito bip all these years, just
healthy snacks. My kids, they, I mean, carrots ain't good.

(46:01):
Like you know, I make all kinds of steps, but
I just kind of, like, I think, got out of
the rhythm of like cooking because they were gone, so
now I'm starting over. But I mean, I guess, yeah,
like we don't I don't eat like that. What's your
best dish to make? I eat it? You be like
my shit is better than everybody? Tika, that's a lot.

(46:23):
I mean, what's your best dish that you make that
you'd be like? You eat it? You like this ship
is fire? Oh wow? Um, I don't know. I do
not have fun. Probably I don't have fun. Okay, So
look we go wrap this because she over here talking crazy.

(46:43):
I don't you do? What do y'all want to see?
Great mac and cheese? Everybody as your top? Yes? Yeah,
Tomby Brown kind of kind of hard? Yeah, all right, Brian,
all right, he's stipid. Look that up next for me, Greens.
That's a good dish. Yeah, I can make some good

(47:05):
all right? So we go were Gold dragon Ship because
I'm over in pain. I ain't gonna lie. So okay,
season three, what do you guys want to make sure
that we do? What do you want to make sure
we accomplish in season three? Okay? Um? I want to
get into more of just like a lot of our

(47:27):
personal feelings about a lot of shit that's going on,
because I just feel like we're all going through shiit
separately and collectively. I just want to be able to
like express that shit like I want to us to.
I want people to see who we really are, Like
how you were talking about earlier, how people don't really
think that you how people think I like to talk
like you like to talk. But now we're gonna make

(47:48):
you talk. Sure me, I'm gonna try to be more
of more open. You know what I'm saying? Asia? What
about you? Red? What do you want to see in
season three from no Um? Like if we did this
man her ideas? She always I just want to have

(48:10):
fun me too, I think that are you know, I'm
not like a serious type person. I guess probably like
on camera, Like I don't really like to express my feelings.
That's why I say that's expressing my emotion, you know.
So I think I want to be I wants all

(48:32):
to be more vulnerable, you more vulnerable. I don't think no,
I don't think this ya. I don't think what do
y'all want me to be? What do you feel like?
I'm not transparent? But the thing is, though, is because
we have to come with the things, like we really
need to be able to get into like pull things

(48:53):
out from you. But I do think you hold back,
like sometimes certain things. I do think that you kind
of sway what give me um um? I think the
LBG t Q. I don't think I hold back. I'm transfer.

(49:14):
Yeah we know that you're transfer. But I think that's
as transparent as anybody is. I don't think anybody has
publicly declared that the whole time. Wow, So I think
that's as transparent, as obvious as you can. I've even
went into why, like it's not about what we had
to get into. Yeah, there's no personal like I would be. Look,

(49:35):
if I ran into a trans person, like a woman
I thought it was cute that had a penis, I
would tell you the story because it wouldn't mean like
I took the penis. I don't like me and I'm
not sexually attracted me. So if you pull a dick out,
you pretty much ruined it. Like, bro, we got the
same thing. This is not going to work out. Wait,
you just said that you would tell us the story
about if I ran into a trans person. I would

(49:56):
tell you the story, Okay, Like I'm not one of
them kind of people that's in bear about living because
it's like, yeah, once I found out it was that
it was not that what if that would be kid.
What if you guys like kiss I would tell you that,
I'll be like I kissed the nigga dang would really
tell us Stripe, I'm not. I am glass is local.
That's what I'm saying though. But that won't come He's

(50:18):
not just gonna those things won't come out. And that's
what I said, Like, that's where we have to like,
I wasn't. The thing was tear because all I kept
thinking about my mama was gonna stop me. Out right.
I don't one thing I try to do as a friend,
and I like to think this podcast works because we
are friends. I'm going to be honest. I told Manny,

(50:41):
I think I told you when I started boxing, when
I started training my coaches. Baby mama used to beat
the shit out of me. She's gonna knock my fucking
teeth out. She's five four. Yes, we talked about it
on the pod. Okay, I don't. I'm not embarrassed about life.
I just was told, excuse me. I was just telling
brit this. Like I told you this. Earthly love is patient.

(51:04):
If you love life, you gotta be patient with life.
You gotta be okay when shit is not going right,
you know, what I mean, And you gotta be patient
and make sure work itself out. I mean, love is patient. Man.
If you love life, you gotta be patient with life.
Good looking out for tuning into the No Sillers Podcast.

(51:24):
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This episode was recorded right here on the West coast
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