March 21, 2023 • 45 mins
Glasses is back this week joined by Peter Bas discussing the need for some people over exaggerate themselves in society. Are their parallels to cockiness and confidence? Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no
Sillers podcast with your host. Now, fuck that with your
low classes. Malone Pete goal was the deal. There ain't one,
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I ain't one. It all out of weather down there.
It's nice, it cooled off. We got a little rain
last night and it's dipped down into the into the seventies.
So I have to get my jacket ready. Not dip
down into the seventies. Well, it didn't come up into
the seventies. I'll tell you that much. Here from one direction,
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it's been so cold and at La we'll be getting
so much necessary water and rain, and all the aguaphers,
all the aquifers are being refilled and replenished, the lakes,
all this one full water, you know what I mean,
because it's so overcrowded here. Now we're finally getting it
back and motherfucker's is still complaining that we are replenishing
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all of the water. Yeah, people are going to be
mad about that. There's a lot of money in drought
in California. They're still withholding the water from a lot
of the Central Valley reservoirs. That's your boy. Your boy
is a mafia member who's that Governor Jesus ain't my boy,
and he's the head of the you know what mafia.
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You can't go around saying that man might want your favor,
that whatever. He can come down here and try to
fight me through Ron. Ron gonna take his ass out,
and Ron don't play him, and Ron gonna line it up.
Who'll win? Who will wear Newsome iron in the fade? Oh?
Ron all day. Ron's got that blue collar mentality. I
think that if I think that with Newsom, Newsom's a
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kind of more defense. All the body work he go,
he go do all the body work early in the fight.
When I look at Newsom, he's the epitome of the
of the Mike Tyson quote. Everyone's got a plan until
they get punched in the face. And ronalds in the military.
So Newsom is gonna be good with the jabs on
his feet, on his toes, bouncing, and Ron the Santus
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is like Marvin Hagler, all body work, just to the
rough and tough body work. Just don't care, fell on
the way at the body, Rocky Marciano type stuff, all
of it. You know, none of these people got hands.
You think they gonna rock our boy? Tomorrow they might. Yeah,
I think probably that motherfucker boy he gonna come out.
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See came out and then they I thought in my mind,
if they locked Trump up, he need to be up
in Marlago, right and he needs to make sure they
come take him out of theory. They need he need
to make him raid the house. He can't do the
traditional white people meet down there, arrestue if he do that.
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He missed the Conservatives no more. You hear about like
sort of like random like tiny offenses of like conservatives
that they like show up with like helicopters and full
blown like bulletproofessing like long rifle out. Trump gotta come
out spitting in the camera with his hands behind his
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back like y'all can't fuck with me. I'm big tea.
He gotta do all. He gotta go off like if
he don't come out and use this tupop moment, get me.
He needed to have a fresh out on Bill. He
need to have a first day out speech, rode out
on bail speech Rod. He needs to have both of
them ships wrote like right now, it's funny he was
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the guy who was starting to actually let some people
out of prison too. Kind of ironic. Yeah, yeah, I know,
code that go go crazy, code that gonna be like
out and lock the hum me up. Man, you better
I'm gonna lose some respect for him. If you don't,
is the wife Fo's gonna wild out? I don't think so.
I don't think they want to give everybody an excuse.
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You know, they understand the whole the whole trigonometry here
is to create a strain so that it's the same
thing like you're seeing like right now, like now the
paper works coming out more about January six, it's like, yeah,
there was dozens upon dozens of FBI agents there. They
released a small amount of the information in the videos.
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At first, there was paid agitators there. They wanted to
create a narrative that there's a group of people here,
this a problem, we're going to be extraordinarily heavy handed,
and we're gonna use, you know, to borrow a quote
from my man, George Gilder, emergency socialism, which is what
the playbook's been since mid twenty twenty. Yeah, I gotta
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get you with a I need to see you in
the extreme left wing. Guy argue, Well, I don't think
you can use the term left wing we'll say left
wing person artist Yoh, you can't say left wing extremists.
You can't say guy. I'm a love it to get
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in this hit because these white people politics shit is serious. Yeah,
try to lay you trying to line me. I'm trying
to line to Crisp. I'm changing the name of human
beings to huge person beings. You're not a human anymore.
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You're a huge person. You're a huge partisan. You can't
say huge man. I saw somebody doing the fucking who
was it a fisherman? Was it fucking a deal? It
was somebody? It was so corny, but they was like, oh,
I grew up. I wanted to be a fisher person.
They didn't want to say fisherman. It's like, I want
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to be a fisher person. I don't like, Oh it
was Sam Smith because Sam Sam is way. You're the irony.
This conversation to what I want to talk to you
about this shit just led right into it, right and
uh so no ceilings. Gl my man Peter in the
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spot for me getting back to the intellectual, the intellectually
stimulating street and top dog conservative thoughts. Now, ye, I'm
not gonna say that it's glasses thoughts, because Peter, as
much as I think of you as a conservative, I
don't but you are a conservative person, but you're not.
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You're really a futuristic person. So I don't even want
to label you that. So I'm not gonna do that
doing what we do. Listen, So we've changed the topic
from yesterday's pre topic. Yeah, fuck that, this ship was.
I'm gonna tell you why, because this ship was with me.
We could do that too, though, we gonna do that.
We need we need it still for that. But okay, look,
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so let me first get this off and then I'll
tell you how I came up with this thought. Okay,
but I saw Sam Smith talking, right and then I've
been looking at Sam Smith over the last twelve months.
Right now, I was as an American, especially as a brother.
I felt like I was early on Sam Smith. Like
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I remember hearing a lot of his early stuff. I
was like, man, this this white boy could really sing,
like he has a really dope voice. And I found
out he was gay pretty early. You know, it didn't matter,
like you know, I mean like he's from England, he's white,
you know what I mean? Like that probably meaning you gay,
That means the person that comes to mind the most.
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You know what I'm saying, is Elton John. So that
means your music is gonna be pretty fucking outstanding, you
know you and Freddy and Mercury, George Michael. Yeah, they
have a white gave me in England is when it
comes to music and white gay men, they are batten
some shit them. Motherfucker's get busy. Freddy Mercury is out
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fucking standing, Elton John is outstanding. Uh, George Michael, you
know what I'm saying, Like I fuck with George Michael.
I fum um so. I knew he was gay early
and I never gave a fuck. It was like this
motherfucker boy could sing like Dre b playing his motherfucking
the studio doctor dre plays saying Smith's music and it's
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still there, like, yeah, this motherfucking tough. You know what
I mean, He tough, he gets busy. So I was
fucking with him. But over the twelve months, I've noticed
this weird shift where it's like it's greatly exaggerated. Now
I ain't gonna say it's greatly exaggerated because as an artist,
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I can relate. I felt like I was holding back
a lot of things for a while, and now everybody
since two nineteen two POC must die. Moving forward, everybody's
just getting glasses pure, like there's no I'm not watering
it down. So maybe that's what Sam Smith is doing.
He's not watering it down. But I've noticed over the
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last twelve months with this conversation, y'all should looking up
where he doesn't want to say fisherman. He says like
fisher person, and it sounded so fucking lame, Like it
just was like, Bro, you can say fisherman. It don't
mean like you know, man. I get the thought behind it,
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but that's just a waste of fucking time. And then
I saw him at the Award show where he was
like trying to like act like he was going to
Hell or addressed, like I guess his idea of evil
or the devil or whatever he thought he was doing.
It just was fucking corny. It was just dumb. And
he was like provoking himself to be like sexy. I
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think in his like I guess and gay and gay lord,
that's sexy. But it just, Bro, you're not a sexy person.
I mean that, like you don't have the body that
gives off sexy person. You know what I mean. I'm
a straight man. But you know, I said if he
had abs or you know, shit like that. You know,
outside of that, it's just like, bro, you just sing
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really good, you know what I mean, and you like
work that you seem good. Right. So, but I was
having a conversation with DJ Head and the conversation was
about Vanity and he was like, man, gee like, so
I called him first, I'm gonna look back to the
Saint Smith and loutle bit back in. I said, Man,
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I was watching this documentary on Netflix. It's called M
three seventy. It's about the plane that disappeared, you know,
over there in Malaysia. Yeah, and I'm watching this whole
thing and it's like a dope on Netflix. Shout out
to the people that produced it. Shout out to Netflix.
That shit the fly. Netflix keep dropping them documentaries. Jab,
can we say it's fly? Is that insensitive? Low key? Right?
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So I'm like, yo, this ship is hard, Like this
is a really good documentary. I thought it was great
and I'm like watching it. But what I noticed was
the arrogance of human beings. I was reminded of the
arrogance in human beings. The reason I'm saying that. So
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I'm watching them, right, and they were saying, the plane right,
the pilot, something happened, the evidence the plane goes in
a different direction over the ocean. Yeah, And I'm this
is all the different people with the evidence, multiple governments, right,
it's Australian government, Chinese government, America, all the people Malaysia,
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all these different governments who would never get alan to
make a scam like this work. Right. So they're like,
oh man, they're hiding information. They're hiding information. If they weren't,
we would have found the bodies, we would found all
the planes, all the debris. And I'm like, it hit
me how arrogant human beings are when it comes to
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Planet Earth. The fact that motherfuckers don't realize that this
planet is mostly water and it's so much shit going
on that we do not know. But I think we
are convinced that we got this motherfucker mastered. That is
the root argument against the activist climate stabilization movement. I
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think they think we got this shit mastered. And I'm like, so,
out of all these gallons of fucking water that's on
this motherfucking planet, you mean to tell me, it's hard
for you to believe that it would be tough to
find a plane if you didn't have the pinpoint local
to where it went down. Yeah, all this fucking water,
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you mean it, which is moving by the way. Huh,
which is moving by the way. It's not like finding
something in an empty field. Yeah, it's like, it's not
like in a fish tank. Yes, motherfucker got currents anybody's
And they don't even And that's the point. They didn't
know where it was. They have an idea roughly of
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where it could be by hundreds of miles, where it's
millions on top of billions of acres. I excuse me,
gallons of just fucking water. Just but the families of
the and you know, I get it, you know, it's
it's a trauma that goes with this shit. It's like, damn,
my family is gone. I'm sweating somebody, the Malaysian government,
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fuck them. And I'm like, oh, like, this is not
nothing to do with the Malaysian government. They are not
the type of society that is sophisticated. I could see
if we're talking about the Mary, Russia, China, some really
sophisticated government too. Beyond some bullshit. But Malaysia is not.
That's not the thing, you know what I mean. They're
not like this crafty ass government of trying to hot shit,
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lord knows, you know what I mean. Like this motherfucker
went into what probably would be water somewhere and everybody,
the families was mad the news and mad. You guys
are hot, Like they knew where the plane was at
and was just fucking lying. That's how much the average
human being trust governments to where they think they are
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all knowing, Like we really think we got this motherfucking
marble mastered. Yeah, that's the nerve of human beings to
think that they have this planet mastered and under control.
It's fucking hilarious to me. Louke back around to getting
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back to Sam Smith. So I'm telling him, I'm like, man, Hen,
you need to wash this. He like, gee, most human beings,
you know, exhibit some sense of vanity. He was like,
you have to, he says, especially the business win And
I'm like, you think most artists have to be He's like, yeah,
because it requires people have to think, see you believe
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in yourself, because they live vicariously through you. They either
need to see that you believe in yourself and it
makes them believe in their self or they need to
hate the fact you believe in yourself so much. And
he said, it's the way to create. And this is
something I've always told him about polarity where you're you're
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not in the space of indifference. You know what I mean?
You people love you or hate you? Yeah, right, because
you exhibit so much vanity, Like everything about is this
excessive pride and um looping back to Sam Smith, I
think that's what's happening with him, where he's going out
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of his way right to exhibit a certainty about lifestyle
that he's living to where he's just over the top
with a goal of hoping it emotionally moves the audience
one way or another. Now it's vanity because do I
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believe he's around his life saying fisher person. Fuck? No,
fuck is a fisher person. You know what I'm saying.
But it just made me think, like, damn, it's vanity
a necessary thing because when we're trying to advance, or
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when we're trying to get human beings to buy into
us and believe in us. Yeah, if you're just selling yourself, sure,
I mean, it's even true in boxing. I mean, the
best boxers are the ones with the greatest aura. You know,
especially from a ticket standpoint, you know, you always see it.
The guy who's who projects the most amusement of some
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variety or another get the nod as being considered greater
than the quiet guy you never really see talk. And
he's worth more money and he has more eyes on him.
And it's true with that. It's true with music, is
true in a lot of areas. Do you think it's
for the same reasons that he'd think that people live
vicariously through it and they know golds and villains. Yep.
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Mike Tyson was unbelievably popular because he personified the courage
that everybody else wishes they had. Mike Tyson never looked
scared once. He scared everybody else, and he was scared
the whole time. He talks about it all the time,
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but he wasn't talking about it then, Fluemewe. It does
speak about himself and a third person all the time.
He does. Who was the greatest boxer of the nineteen
sixties and seventies was Muhammed Ali by a mile. Muhammed
Ali split with a lot of fighters, but he was
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the one you remember. I mean he certainly you remember
him a ship ton more than you remember Larry Holmes
to that much. I mean, like for his the degree
of historical impact of Ali versus Holmes is certainly exponentially
larger than the degree of ability as boxers. And not
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to say Holmes is that close to being Muhammed Ali
as a boxer, But they're not seventeen light years apart.
Like the one guy everybody knows the other one you
have to really be in the boxing even rememberho the
hell he was. They're not that far apart. But let
me ask you a question, Okay, why don't people like
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us need that like to be a fan like I
think Scarface is. Now, maybe I don't know Scarface, but
from a fanatic perspective, because I'm a fan of Scarface.
I don't think I ever got vanity from him, No,
but I think I got more vulnerability, And that's kind
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of what made me. Really, you know, there were times
where his certain words where I felt like he dealt
with things. He'll have a song like Never right on
scar Face as of an album called Made, And there's
a song called Never, and the song is I will
never violate the code to the streets, and I will
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never make a promise that I know I couldn't keep
shit like that, just real simple human being traits. Hi,
I'm saying of greatness as far as how you know
I would. I try to be as a person, you
know what I'm saying. So I don't think he was
over the top like Bragger, Oh she's I don't think
I ever care. So why is it people like us
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like I think I know how close Larry Holmes is
Tom Muhammad Ali as a fighter? Right? Why do I
not need to buy vanity like the average person? Is
it because I don't lack confidence in myself? Or I
don't What is it? I think it's a number of things.
I think for your average person, it's easier to dream
than to be. And I also think that, Yeah, people
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who are self assured, like I'm not ultra confident. I
know what my strengths are, I know what my weaknesses are.
I understand that I'm honest with myself about it. And
you want to talk shit about everything I failed to do. Yeah,
I'm well aware. Yeah it's I'm not. Oh my god,
you knowing my squawked by is We're just got in
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the world. Yeah, he is. I'm not, that's the end
of it. Yeah, But I think a lot of people
a lot of themselves about who they are, you know,
that's for sure. And there's a lot of people that
just for a minute, I want to pretend. Man, I
wish that I was not the guy with these two
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of the settle of seven deadly sins that I have
that I'm aware of that I don't like. And man,
that guy over there, he doesn't have any of those.
He is great. When does confidence become vanity? When does
he become excessive? He ever thought about that? Yeah, I
think that when it goes from literal to theatrical, literal
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to theatrical. Yeah, I mean like a guy saying I'm
the I am the best welterweight in the world today,
I am the greatest pound for pound fighter that has
ever walked this earth, you know, and guys say the latter.
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But do guys said that usually are not even in
the running. Like, let's take it out of boxing, let's
go back into hip hop. Yeah, when Little Wayne says
I'm the greatest rapper alive, right, not the greatest rapper
of solf I'm the greatest rapper alive. Is that vanity
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at that point? Or is that him marketing? Or is
marketing vanity? Is that him marketing? This is what I
want you to think, and then I'm gonna put in
the work for this to be a consideration. I don't
think marketing is vanity. I think vanity is marketed. And
I think in a lot of cases, particularly hip hop
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has to do more with like the optics. So if
Wayne comes out with Wayne's not maybe a great ample
because for a run he really was it. For sure,
there's a real conversation about Little Wayne being the greatest
you know, hip hop artist, rapper of all time. Yeah,
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there is a really real there's certainly a subjective case.
If I was his lawyer and I and I had
to defend his case, I'd have a fucking briefcase full
of shit it. It'd be tough for a jury to
not Yeah, I mean like, it'd be tough for for
a jury to not hear hear my thoughts and and
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you know, vote my way. Yeah. Yeah, I think maybe
more like And there's kind of the difference between because
it's hard talking about rappers because certain rappers, like the rapper,
the artist and the guy aren't always quite so close,
you know what I mean. But I would say, you know,
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when you're talking about vanity, it's like like Rick Ross
type of proclamations, you know, of either things you intend
to do or like stuff that you like. He didn't.
Rick never said I I moved five birds and whatever. No,
he says something about he's friends with Noriega, the real Noriega,
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you know what I mean. Like, that's a lot. It's
definitely a lot. It's definitely a lot. But but so
so is that vanity being marketed or is that really
just storytelling? You know what I mean? Like is that
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just him? Like when is it okay to tell a
story about anything? Let's say you're trying to convey ideas
to the general public. Like, right, I've had this conversation where, like,
my whole career is I've been pretty much just keeping
it straight on course, probably up to two thousand and eighteen,
I've just pretty much said exactly what out what it was.
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But what I realized was the average audience is so
disconnected from culture, you know, I mean from the culture
that we were talking about. That this has been said
so many times that's not even special with like they
can't even get into the story because they're like, okay,
blah blah blah, versus exaggerating the idea so people can
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come to the conclusion of what's simple. I mean, like
what it is Like this is gonna sound crazy, but
it's simple. Like right, Like what I started doing was
I would always wear glasses, right, but when I got
these really big glasses. Now, these glasses is four hundred dollars.
They not cheap glasses, but they don't look like they
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cost some money, right, which is you know, my glasses, right,
So I realized that when people said my name, I
need that. T Paine told me this a long time ago.
He's like, hey man, your name is glasses and you
will not wear glasses. That's crazy. And when I finally
got them, I will wear glasses, but you just couldn't
tell until I got these really big ass glasses. And
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that huge when you see him. But that's the only
way I see why they called him glasses. People started
saying that, and it comes I see why they call
him glasses. Yeah, they almost kind of looked like it
very search from the movie, like the glasses that Robert
de Niro wears at the end of Casino or something
like that. He warmed there Oceans e levin, remember the
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man that plugged him up with it. He wore them.
Oh yeah, they're really expensive glasses. They not know punker
as glasses. But I realized they were so big that
they screamed glasses. I realized about five years ago that
whatever you're trying to tell people you have to it
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has to be overtold, It has to be oversold for
people to just get the simple idea of it. Yeah,
like my glasses needed to be big and crazy for
you to realize my name is glasses. Because if I
wore glasses that just fit, they just people just miss them.
And maybe it's because you know, again people seeing people
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with glasses a million times and it doesn't mean as
much as it once did. Versus when I wear these
big gass glasses, you're like, man them glass. Oh oh
that's why his name is glasses. Yeah. Um, back to
back to the point, Um theatrical and literal. Give me
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an example, give me another example of that, Like, where's theatrical? Like,
so it's at that point are we're saying Rick Ross
is vain? That's how I say, I don't know between
the artists and the guy, say Rick Ross, the artist,
Like if Rick Ross and I forgot its real name,
had different social Security numbers and we really knew that
Rick Ross was his own I think it's William Robert Stanley,
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William Roberts mhm h. If that guy just was his
own guy and Rick was his own guy, then yeah,
I would say. Vanity is putting on all the designer
clothes you own in the same outfit and driving seven
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Lamborghinis of different colors down the street doing zigzags on
your way to wherever it is that you're going. As
it looks that's how you travel, is portrayed by your
video something like that, you know or you know in
cases for like one thing I think is pretty straight line.
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It's like women now have seen female artists where like
it's like like performance makeup you have to wear, not
regular makeup if you're going to be on the stage
who are looking at you from far away. Well now
they wear that ship to work. M And that's a
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manifestation of an artist's vanity coming They prostitution culture, Oh yeah,
they are impeding on prostitution culture and get mad when
they get the same energy as fucking hilarious to me,
I agree, But I've heard that a lot of times
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where it's like you don't judge a book by its cover.
It's like that's always been a goofy expression because books
have covers for that exact reason. Yeah, that was the reason.
Why did you need to cover? Yeah, and to the
extent that it's a scenario where a person is controlling
how he looks or she looks. They could have looked anyway.
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They chose that way. Yeah, they chose a well spoken
perspective or a well spoken for look. Yeah. Very true.
Um people like Kanye West, um jay Z. I do
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think I am. I think the more I thought about
what he was saying, vanity is and I think we
see it as vanity because we get the point right immediately.
You didn't need to oversell us. But I don't know
if the average human being would think of certain people
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like Rick Ross as vain, like the rose the character
the rapper, not the human being that's rapping the wraps,
but the character as vain. I think they just see
him is all day long, things like oh okay, he's
a drug dealer. But but I had this conversation I
talked to you about it where a guy was asking
me did I really sell drugs? And I'm like, yeah,
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I really sold PCP and crack, I mean in marijuana.
He's like, well, why don't you dress like Rick Ross?
And I was like, drug dealers don't dress like Rick.
Then it hit me. TV is what's programming people to
believe this is all they know. But TV is also
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great to make sure that the average person who doesn't know,
you know what I mean, gets the picture. Yeah. So
if I'm telling him real drug dealers, I'm telling him
real drug dealers don't dress like this because I know,
really rich drug dealers. Yeah, and I ain't never seen,
you know, these people dressed like none of these characters
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in a film or Scarface or you know, none of
this stuff. And to him, all he knows is the
character that is Scarface, you know what I mean, from
the movie. And then he said Rick Rows and Rick Rose.
His whole marketing plan as a as a as a
rapper is I'm gonna dress like Scarface because the rap
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excuse me, the movie Scarface is a Miami drug dealer
like niggas in Miami is not wearing Linen. Yeah, And
I think also part of it is, like you can
see it in the popularity of minor league sports. You know,
there isn't any So for the American consumer, they only
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want to even just hear about the most prolific. So
if there's going to be like a show made about
a drug dealer, it's gonna be made about meats. They're
gonna be made about one hundred million dollar novelty that's
the most interesting, not about the five million dollar guy,
which there's you know, a thousand of them out there,
or for five or about the government there are you know,
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So I think that plays into it as well. So
then I think because of that reality, because the USFL
failed because no one goes to the minor league baseball
game and Little Rock, Arkansas, now you have to say,
all right, well, if I'm going to project an image
to market, I need to project the image of all
images to market. I have to be the biggest deal
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of whatever type of deal I am. If I'm provocative,
I have to be the singularly most provocative human that's
ever been born, or no one cares. And you kind
of saw that before, like we were kind of talking
about that. Maybe in a different context with um oh Man,
(33:46):
who's the rapper who's black and gay, who did the
Cowboys song Oh Little nas Yeah, he tends to maybe
be a little bit provocative as well, also with the
devil theme. I think at one point sure, but see
his his his rhetoric was, Oh, everybody is telling me
I'm going to hill anyway, so lett me blah blah blah,
(34:08):
which was what was the deal with the other guy.
I'm not Smith really just copied the same idea. It
was corny, I don't. I don't think it really worked
out for him. I didn't. I didn't feel the boom
of it all. Maybe it worked in the white community,
but I didn't feel the boom of it all like
I did with Little nas X. I didn't feel the
(34:30):
same boom. Yeah, I think it was used. I see see.
I think in real life, like when you first see something,
it don't have to be over the top. It's the
first time you've seen it, so it is over the
top exactly. I mean, the first time you saw Snoop
Dog as a gangster rapper, he didn't have to be
(34:51):
over the top. If he just wore a couple of
the pieces, you never saw it before, so it's like, oh,
this is the first time versus fast forward thirty years.
You know what I'm saying, You like, I've seen that before.
What does it look like over the top? Yeah, And
I think that's also sort of not to cut you off, uh,
(35:14):
because from five to five c Mac, it's it's it
seems over the top vein, you know what I mean,
like the Hoover killer on his head, like he's just
you know, the the greatest destruction of another gang there is,
you know what I'm saying, And that's the the average person.
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But he can't believe that. I hope he don't really
truly believe that, because you know, you're talking about another
community with you know, thousands of members who you know,
they've been around as long as street life and and
and you know, urban Los Angeles has been around, you know,
as far as black people go. I'd imagine if he
(35:58):
believed that, really, it probably wouldn't be here, Yeah, because
at that point you would be out trying to carry
out the mission and you're gonna pretty much run into
bad luck eventually pretty fast. Yeah. But I agree it
does come across excessive, you know, the way he speaks
(36:19):
you know he's gonna put the five be five me,
not before me be five me. So I guess it
is this excessive pride in the community where you know,
but see it's hard for me right even as an artist,
because it's like I was always taught the genuine article.
(36:41):
Don't got to put it on like that. Like the
richest drug dealers, I know, they didn't never buy designer clothes.
And these niggas where millionaires. They're also not an entertainment
nor wanted to be coming to America. Great, that was
(37:06):
the spoon. That was the swoon. Oh fuck. And I
think that's something that we maybe society has lost a
little bit of, um a grasp on is the difference
between walking like I talk it because there's no show
(37:26):
about what I do and you know, people who's earning
of a living, isn't the show about what they do?
Is the show? Is? This is the show? You know?
Like there's hedge fund guys worth nine figures all over
the place, not all over the place, but where they
(37:48):
are in concentration, they are all over the place. It's
like I think there's like regular guys. I mean, they
have a little bit more, but you wouldn't think, well,
if that guy would thirty or forty million dollars, looks
like that. That That guy's got four hundred million dollars. What
must he look like? He looks like a regular guy. Hmm.
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But when head said it to me, just like when
you said it to me, vanity, the only way the
general population can get it, even at his most basic level,
is it has to in the intellectual mind that's presenting
or processing. It would have to be vanity. It had
(38:34):
to be presented and damn that's fucked up. It would
have to be the sent in vain. Yeah. Well, because
like you kind of said something earlier, like first. But
I think that the motto sort of is you either
got to be the first or the biggest, you know,
otherwise who cares? You're just there? You're just another bladograph
(39:00):
on the lawn. Yeah that makes sense. But isn't vanity
a sin? Yeah? Some of that stuff with the Bible
has contextual evolution that is different. I think that if
(39:22):
I would have bet vanity as a sin, meaning that
you're so vain that you feel that your role in
your own life is greater than God's, not necessarily that
you like everyone to look at you at the restaurant
when you walk in the door. And Christian teachings vanity
(39:44):
and it is an example of pride, one of the
seven Daily sins. Yeah, because it's like I was listening
to as. Actually it's Ben Shapiro talking about Juda as
or something like I said the Lord's name in vainue'
I supposed to say the Lord's name in vain. When
we take it as like, don't say like God, damn it,
(40:04):
you know what I mean. But I guess the classical
meaning of that suggestion is that you don't take the
Lord's name in vain, saying I am doing this thing
because God told me to do this thing, when that's
not true. I've always said that people the Bible is
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a very serious literature book, and a lot of people
that we have teaching people about these teachings, these words
are not equipped to translate, you know, the texts like
these are truly big, serious words. I think we do
meet people that are spiritually discerned for the role, but
(40:49):
it probably should require a level of education, Like I
don't like I like a lawyer. You know what I mean.
You're dealing with some serious language and it's serious. It's
serious as hell, So it says vanity of vanity, says
the preacher, vanity of vanities, all is vanity. The Hebrew
word for vanity use is this verse literally means vapor
(41:11):
or breath. It can also be translated to meaningless, emptiness,
or futility. Sure, yeah, like an effort in vain. So yeah,
vanity is Yeah, I guess in that sense it's meaningless
or valueless posturing and representation. I think in the sense
(41:36):
that it's akin to like to pride as pride being
a seven dely sinners, you have more pride that you
have too much pride in yourself to understand the proper
relationship between your role and the role of God. M
sure that would that would make more sense in English, Yeah,
(42:00):
m hmm. But yeah, we live in a completely sick world,
like I said, watching that show, and people really think
that we got the Earth under control. Yeah, it's people don't.
It's amazing to me how little people have, like just normally,
(42:26):
like like reverence for scope either of space or of time,
Like people don't understand how big a large place really is,
and they don't understand how long a long time really is,
like at all you know what that bro That is
actually the truth. There is such a mute minute understanding
(42:52):
of what a long time is. And you know what,
that's the vanity and us as humans because we quantify
based off of our existence of what a long time is.
You don't quantify it off the existence of let's say Earth.
Even what we know about Earth existence we quantified based
off of our time. Like, what's a long time? I
(43:15):
was waiting on you a long time? It's thirty minutes. Yeah,
I get thirty minutes within the grand spectrum of time.
You know, this Earth has probably been alive. Shit that
might not even that's not even the wink of eye
for this motherfucker. Yeah. I mean, like just like a
(43:37):
perspective that I has like jumped out to me. People
say gender is a social construct, Like all right, oh,
that's interesting. We've only really had a modern social construct
over the course of human existence for a blink of
an eye. I mean, like I think Jordan Peterson was saying,
(43:58):
you know, and that thing he was talking about with
the lobster and the brain chemical that we divested evolutionarily
from that about fifty five million years ago. We've only
been like literate as a species for about seven to
eight thousand years or something like that, right, So if
you were to look at the evolution from like backwards,
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like Homo sapien to like Homopyrus Homo habilis, all these
different evolutionary phases which are one hundred plus thousands of years,
men are more durable in those of one hundred thousand
year period. Men are physically more durable for ninety nine
of the hundred thousands of years, you know, to the
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extent where it really really really mattered. So now within
the last thousand years it's a social construct when the
construct was defined by ninety nine thousand years before it
of roles that were mind by the physiological constraints. No scope.
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low classes. Malone Pete goal was the deal. There ain't one,
(00:24):
I ain't one. It all out of weather down there.
It's nice, it cooled off. We got a little rain
last night and it's dipped down into the into the seventies.
So I have to get my jacket ready. Not dip
down into the seventies. Well, it didn't come up into
the seventies. I'll tell you that much. Here from one direction,
(00:47):
it's been so cold and at La we'll be getting
so much necessary water and rain, and all the aguaphers,
all the aquifers are being refilled and replenished, the lakes,
all this one full water, you know what I mean,
because it's so overcrowded here. Now we're finally getting it
back and motherfucker's is still complaining that we are replenishing
(01:11):
all of the water. Yeah, people are going to be
mad about that. There's a lot of money in drought
in California. They're still withholding the water from a lot
of the Central Valley reservoirs. That's your boy. Your boy
is a mafia member who's that Governor Jesus ain't my boy,
and he's the head of the you know what mafia.
(01:37):
You can't go around saying that man might want your favor,
that whatever. He can come down here and try to
fight me through Ron. Ron gonna take his ass out,
and Ron don't play him, and Ron gonna line it up.
Who'll win? Who will wear Newsome iron in the fade? Oh?
Ron all day. Ron's got that blue collar mentality. I
think that if I think that with Newsom, Newsom's a
(02:00):
kind of more defense. All the body work he go,
he go do all the body work early in the fight.
When I look at Newsom, he's the epitome of the
of the Mike Tyson quote. Everyone's got a plan until
they get punched in the face. And ronalds in the military.
So Newsom is gonna be good with the jabs on
his feet, on his toes, bouncing, and Ron the Santus
(02:24):
is like Marvin Hagler, all body work, just to the
rough and tough body work. Just don't care, fell on
the way at the body, Rocky Marciano type stuff, all
of it. You know, none of these people got hands.
You think they gonna rock our boy? Tomorrow they might. Yeah,
I think probably that motherfucker boy he gonna come out.
(02:44):
See came out and then they I thought in my mind,
if they locked Trump up, he need to be up
in Marlago, right and he needs to make sure they
come take him out of theory. They need he need
to make him raid the house. He can't do the
traditional white people meet down there, arrestue if he do that.
(03:06):
He missed the Conservatives no more. You hear about like
sort of like random like tiny offenses of like conservatives
that they like show up with like helicopters and full
blown like bulletproofessing like long rifle out. Trump gotta come
out spitting in the camera with his hands behind his
(03:27):
back like y'all can't fuck with me. I'm big tea.
He gotta do all. He gotta go off like if
he don't come out and use this tupop moment, get me.
He needed to have a fresh out on Bill. He
need to have a first day out speech, rode out
on bail speech Rod. He needs to have both of
them ships wrote like right now, it's funny he was
(03:50):
the guy who was starting to actually let some people
out of prison too. Kind of ironic. Yeah, yeah, I know,
code that go go crazy, code that gonna be like
out and lock the hum me up. Man, you better
I'm gonna lose some respect for him. If you don't,
is the wife Fo's gonna wild out? I don't think so.
I don't think they want to give everybody an excuse.
(04:12):
You know, they understand the whole the whole trigonometry here
is to create a strain so that it's the same
thing like you're seeing like right now, like now the
paper works coming out more about January six, it's like, yeah,
there was dozens upon dozens of FBI agents there. They
released a small amount of the information in the videos.
(04:34):
At first, there was paid agitators there. They wanted to
create a narrative that there's a group of people here,
this a problem, we're going to be extraordinarily heavy handed,
and we're gonna use, you know, to borrow a quote
from my man, George Gilder, emergency socialism, which is what
the playbook's been since mid twenty twenty. Yeah, I gotta
(04:54):
get you with a I need to see you in
the extreme left wing. Guy argue, Well, I don't think
you can use the term left wing we'll say left
wing person artist Yoh, you can't say left wing extremists.
You can't say guy. I'm a love it to get
(05:19):
in this hit because these white people politics shit is serious. Yeah,
try to lay you trying to line me. I'm trying
to line to Crisp. I'm changing the name of human
beings to huge person beings. You're not a human anymore.
(05:40):
You're a huge person. You're a huge partisan. You can't
say huge man. I saw somebody doing the fucking who
was it a fisherman? Was it fucking a deal? It
was somebody? It was so corny, but they was like, oh,
I grew up. I wanted to be a fisher person.
They didn't want to say fisherman. It's like, I want
(06:01):
to be a fisher person. I don't like, Oh it
was Sam Smith because Sam Sam is way. You're the irony.
This conversation to what I want to talk to you
about this shit just led right into it, right and
uh so no ceilings. Gl my man Peter in the
(06:24):
spot for me getting back to the intellectual, the intellectually
stimulating street and top dog conservative thoughts. Now, ye, I'm
not gonna say that it's glasses thoughts, because Peter, as
much as I think of you as a conservative, I
don't but you are a conservative person, but you're not.
(06:47):
You're really a futuristic person. So I don't even want
to label you that. So I'm not gonna do that
doing what we do. Listen, So we've changed the topic
from yesterday's pre topic. Yeah, fuck that, this ship was.
I'm gonna tell you why, because this ship was with me.
We could do that too, though, we gonna do that.
We need we need it still for that. But okay, look,
(07:09):
so let me first get this off and then I'll
tell you how I came up with this thought. Okay,
but I saw Sam Smith talking, right and then I've
been looking at Sam Smith over the last twelve months.
Right now, I was as an American, especially as a brother.
I felt like I was early on Sam Smith. Like
(07:30):
I remember hearing a lot of his early stuff. I
was like, man, this this white boy could really sing,
like he has a really dope voice. And I found
out he was gay pretty early. You know, it didn't matter,
like you know, I mean like he's from England, he's white,
you know what I mean? Like that probably meaning you gay,
That means the person that comes to mind the most.
(07:52):
You know what I'm saying, is Elton John. So that
means your music is gonna be pretty fucking outstanding, you
know you and Freddy and Mercury, George Michael. Yeah, they
have a white gave me in England is when it
comes to music and white gay men, they are batten
some shit them. Motherfucker's get busy. Freddy Mercury is out
(08:15):
fucking standing, Elton John is outstanding. Uh, George Michael, you
know what I'm saying, Like I fuck with George Michael.
I fum um so. I knew he was gay early
and I never gave a fuck. It was like this
motherfucker boy could sing like Dre b playing his motherfucking
the studio doctor dre plays saying Smith's music and it's
(08:35):
still there, like, yeah, this motherfucking tough. You know what
I mean, He tough, he gets busy. So I was
fucking with him. But over the twelve months, I've noticed
this weird shift where it's like it's greatly exaggerated. Now
I ain't gonna say it's greatly exaggerated because as an artist,
(08:57):
I can relate. I felt like I was holding back
a lot of things for a while, and now everybody
since two nineteen two POC must die. Moving forward, everybody's
just getting glasses pure, like there's no I'm not watering
it down. So maybe that's what Sam Smith is doing.
He's not watering it down. But I've noticed over the
(09:18):
last twelve months with this conversation, y'all should looking up
where he doesn't want to say fisherman. He says like
fisher person, and it sounded so fucking lame, Like it
just was like, Bro, you can say fisherman. It don't
mean like you know, man. I get the thought behind it,
(09:39):
but that's just a waste of fucking time. And then
I saw him at the Award show where he was
like trying to like act like he was going to
Hell or addressed, like I guess his idea of evil
or the devil or whatever he thought he was doing.
It just was fucking corny. It was just dumb. And
he was like provoking himself to be like sexy. I
(10:01):
think in his like I guess and gay and gay lord,
that's sexy. But it just, Bro, you're not a sexy person.
I mean that, like you don't have the body that
gives off sexy person. You know what I mean. I'm
a straight man. But you know, I said if he
had abs or you know, shit like that. You know,
outside of that, it's just like, bro, you just sing
(10:23):
really good, you know what I mean, and you like
work that you seem good. Right. So, but I was
having a conversation with DJ Head and the conversation was
about Vanity and he was like, man, gee like, so
I called him first, I'm gonna look back to the
Saint Smith and loutle bit back in. I said, Man,
(10:45):
I was watching this documentary on Netflix. It's called M
three seventy. It's about the plane that disappeared, you know,
over there in Malaysia. Yeah, and I'm watching this whole
thing and it's like a dope on Netflix. Shout out
to the people that produced it. Shout out to Netflix.
That shit the fly. Netflix keep dropping them documentaries. Jab,
can we say it's fly? Is that insensitive? Low key? Right?
(11:10):
So I'm like, yo, this ship is hard, Like this
is a really good documentary. I thought it was great
and I'm like watching it. But what I noticed was
the arrogance of human beings. I was reminded of the
arrogance in human beings. The reason I'm saying that. So
(11:31):
I'm watching them, right, and they were saying, the plane right,
the pilot, something happened, the evidence the plane goes in
a different direction over the ocean. Yeah, And I'm this
is all the different people with the evidence, multiple governments, right,
it's Australian government, Chinese government, America, all the people Malaysia,
(11:55):
all these different governments who would never get alan to
make a scam like this work. Right. So they're like,
oh man, they're hiding information. They're hiding information. If they weren't,
we would have found the bodies, we would found all
the planes, all the debris. And I'm like, it hit
me how arrogant human beings are when it comes to
(12:16):
Planet Earth. The fact that motherfuckers don't realize that this
planet is mostly water and it's so much shit going
on that we do not know. But I think we
are convinced that we got this motherfucker mastered. That is
the root argument against the activist climate stabilization movement. I
(12:42):
think they think we got this shit mastered. And I'm like, so,
out of all these gallons of fucking water that's on
this motherfucking planet, you mean to tell me, it's hard
for you to believe that it would be tough to
find a plane if you didn't have the pinpoint local
to where it went down. Yeah, all this fucking water,
(13:04):
you mean it, which is moving by the way. Huh,
which is moving by the way. It's not like finding
something in an empty field. Yeah, it's like, it's not
like in a fish tank. Yes, motherfucker got currents anybody's
And they don't even And that's the point. They didn't
know where it was. They have an idea roughly of
(13:26):
where it could be by hundreds of miles, where it's
millions on top of billions of acres. I excuse me,
gallons of just fucking water. Just but the families of
the and you know, I get it, you know, it's
it's a trauma that goes with this shit. It's like, damn,
my family is gone. I'm sweating somebody, the Malaysian government,
(13:49):
fuck them. And I'm like, oh, like, this is not
nothing to do with the Malaysian government. They are not
the type of society that is sophisticated. I could see
if we're talking about the Mary, Russia, China, some really
sophisticated government too. Beyond some bullshit. But Malaysia is not.
That's not the thing, you know what I mean. They're
not like this crafty ass government of trying to hot shit,
(14:12):
lord knows, you know what I mean. Like this motherfucker
went into what probably would be water somewhere and everybody,
the families was mad the news and mad. You guys
are hot, Like they knew where the plane was at
and was just fucking lying. That's how much the average
human being trust governments to where they think they are
(14:33):
all knowing, Like we really think we got this motherfucking
marble mastered. Yeah, that's the nerve of human beings to
think that they have this planet mastered and under control.
It's fucking hilarious to me. Louke back around to getting
(14:55):
back to Sam Smith. So I'm telling him, I'm like, man, Hen,
you need to wash this. He like, gee, most human beings,
you know, exhibit some sense of vanity. He was like,
you have to, he says, especially the business win And
I'm like, you think most artists have to be He's like, yeah,
because it requires people have to think, see you believe
(15:19):
in yourself, because they live vicariously through you. They either
need to see that you believe in yourself and it
makes them believe in their self or they need to
hate the fact you believe in yourself so much. And
he said, it's the way to create. And this is
something I've always told him about polarity where you're you're
(15:39):
not in the space of indifference. You know what I mean?
You people love you or hate you? Yeah, right, because
you exhibit so much vanity, Like everything about is this
excessive pride and um looping back to Sam Smith, I
think that's what's happening with him, where he's going out
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of his way right to exhibit a certainty about lifestyle
that he's living to where he's just over the top
with a goal of hoping it emotionally moves the audience
one way or another. Now it's vanity because do I
(16:22):
believe he's around his life saying fisher person. Fuck? No,
fuck is a fisher person. You know what I'm saying.
But it just made me think, like, damn, it's vanity
a necessary thing because when we're trying to advance, or
(16:42):
when we're trying to get human beings to buy into
us and believe in us. Yeah, if you're just selling yourself, sure,
I mean, it's even true in boxing. I mean, the
best boxers are the ones with the greatest aura. You know,
especially from a ticket standpoint, you know, you always see it.
The guy who's who projects the most amusement of some
(17:06):
variety or another get the nod as being considered greater
than the quiet guy you never really see talk. And
he's worth more money and he has more eyes on him.
And it's true with that. It's true with music, is
true in a lot of areas. Do you think it's
for the same reasons that he'd think that people live
vicariously through it and they know golds and villains. Yep.
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Mike Tyson was unbelievably popular because he personified the courage
that everybody else wishes they had. Mike Tyson never looked
scared once. He scared everybody else, and he was scared
the whole time. He talks about it all the time,
(17:53):
but he wasn't talking about it then, Fluemewe. It does
speak about himself and a third person all the time.
He does. Who was the greatest boxer of the nineteen
sixties and seventies was Muhammed Ali by a mile. Muhammed
Ali split with a lot of fighters, but he was
(18:14):
the one you remember. I mean he certainly you remember
him a ship ton more than you remember Larry Holmes
to that much. I mean, like for his the degree
of historical impact of Ali versus Holmes is certainly exponentially
larger than the degree of ability as boxers. And not
(18:39):
to say Holmes is that close to being Muhammed Ali
as a boxer, But they're not seventeen light years apart.
Like the one guy everybody knows the other one you
have to really be in the boxing even rememberho the
hell he was. They're not that far apart. But let
me ask you a question, Okay, why don't people like
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us need that like to be a fan like I
think Scarface is. Now, maybe I don't know Scarface, but
from a fanatic perspective, because I'm a fan of Scarface.
I don't think I ever got vanity from him, No,
but I think I got more vulnerability, And that's kind
(19:20):
of what made me. Really, you know, there were times
where his certain words where I felt like he dealt
with things. He'll have a song like Never right on
scar Face as of an album called Made, And there's
a song called Never, and the song is I will
never violate the code to the streets, and I will
(19:40):
never make a promise that I know I couldn't keep
shit like that, just real simple human being traits. Hi,
I'm saying of greatness as far as how you know
I would. I try to be as a person, you
know what I'm saying. So I don't think he was
over the top like Bragger, Oh she's I don't think
I ever care. So why is it people like us
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like I think I know how close Larry Holmes is
Tom Muhammad Ali as a fighter? Right? Why do I
not need to buy vanity like the average person? Is
it because I don't lack confidence in myself? Or I
don't What is it? I think it's a number of things.
I think for your average person, it's easier to dream
than to be. And I also think that, Yeah, people
(20:28):
who are self assured, like I'm not ultra confident. I
know what my strengths are, I know what my weaknesses are.
I understand that I'm honest with myself about it. And
you want to talk shit about everything I failed to do. Yeah,
I'm well aware. Yeah it's I'm not. Oh my god,
you knowing my squawked by is We're just got in
(20:49):
the world. Yeah, he is. I'm not, that's the end
of it. Yeah, But I think a lot of people
a lot of themselves about who they are, you know,
that's for sure. And there's a lot of people that
just for a minute, I want to pretend. Man, I
wish that I was not the guy with these two
(21:13):
of the settle of seven deadly sins that I have
that I'm aware of that I don't like. And man,
that guy over there, he doesn't have any of those.
He is great. When does confidence become vanity? When does
he become excessive? He ever thought about that? Yeah, I
think that when it goes from literal to theatrical, literal
(21:41):
to theatrical. Yeah, I mean like a guy saying I'm
the I am the best welterweight in the world today,
I am the greatest pound for pound fighter that has
ever walked this earth, you know, and guys say the latter.
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But do guys said that usually are not even in
the running. Like, let's take it out of boxing, let's
go back into hip hop. Yeah, when Little Wayne says
I'm the greatest rapper alive, right, not the greatest rapper
of solf I'm the greatest rapper alive. Is that vanity
(22:30):
at that point? Or is that him marketing? Or is
marketing vanity? Is that him marketing? This is what I
want you to think, and then I'm gonna put in
the work for this to be a consideration. I don't
think marketing is vanity. I think vanity is marketed. And
I think in a lot of cases, particularly hip hop
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has to do more with like the optics. So if
Wayne comes out with Wayne's not maybe a great ample
because for a run he really was it. For sure,
there's a real conversation about Little Wayne being the greatest
you know, hip hop artist, rapper of all time. Yeah,
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there is a really real there's certainly a subjective case.
If I was his lawyer and I and I had
to defend his case, I'd have a fucking briefcase full
of shit it. It'd be tough for a jury to
not Yeah, I mean like, it'd be tough for for
a jury to not hear hear my thoughts and and
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you know, vote my way. Yeah. Yeah, I think maybe
more like And there's kind of the difference between because
it's hard talking about rappers because certain rappers, like the rapper,
the artist and the guy aren't always quite so close,
you know what I mean. But I would say, you know,
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when you're talking about vanity, it's like like Rick Ross
type of proclamations, you know, of either things you intend
to do or like stuff that you like. He didn't.
Rick never said I I moved five birds and whatever. No,
he says something about he's friends with Noriega, the real Noriega,
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you know what I mean. Like, that's a lot. It's
definitely a lot. It's definitely a lot. But but so
so is that vanity being marketed or is that really
just storytelling? You know what I mean? Like is that
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just him? Like when is it okay to tell a
story about anything? Let's say you're trying to convey ideas
to the general public. Like, right, I've had this conversation where, like,
my whole career is I've been pretty much just keeping
it straight on course, probably up to two thousand and eighteen,
I've just pretty much said exactly what out what it was.
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But what I realized was the average audience is so
disconnected from culture, you know, I mean from the culture
that we were talking about. That this has been said
so many times that's not even special with like they
can't even get into the story because they're like, okay,
blah blah blah, versus exaggerating the idea so people can
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come to the conclusion of what's simple. I mean, like
what it is Like this is gonna sound crazy, but
it's simple. Like right, Like what I started doing was
I would always wear glasses, right, but when I got
these really big glasses. Now, these glasses is four hundred dollars.
They not cheap glasses, but they don't look like they
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cost some money, right, which is you know, my glasses, right,
So I realized that when people said my name, I
need that. T Paine told me this a long time ago.
He's like, hey man, your name is glasses and you
will not wear glasses. That's crazy. And when I finally
got them, I will wear glasses, but you just couldn't
tell until I got these really big ass glasses. And
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that huge when you see him. But that's the only
way I see why they called him glasses. People started
saying that, and it comes I see why they call
him glasses. Yeah, they almost kind of looked like it
very search from the movie, like the glasses that Robert
de Niro wears at the end of Casino or something
like that. He warmed there Oceans e levin, remember the
(26:38):
man that plugged him up with it. He wore them.
Oh yeah, they're really expensive glasses. They not know punker
as glasses. But I realized they were so big that
they screamed glasses. I realized about five years ago that
whatever you're trying to tell people you have to it
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has to be overtold, It has to be oversold for
people to just get the simple idea of it. Yeah,
like my glasses needed to be big and crazy for
you to realize my name is glasses. Because if I
wore glasses that just fit, they just people just miss them.
And maybe it's because you know, again people seeing people
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with glasses a million times and it doesn't mean as
much as it once did. Versus when I wear these
big gass glasses, you're like, man them glass. Oh oh
that's why his name is glasses. Yeah. Um, back to
back to the point, Um theatrical and literal. Give me
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an example, give me another example of that, Like, where's theatrical? Like,
so it's at that point are we're saying Rick Ross
is vain? That's how I say, I don't know between
the artists and the guy, say Rick Ross, the artist,
Like if Rick Ross and I forgot its real name,
had different social Security numbers and we really knew that
Rick Ross was his own I think it's William Robert Stanley,
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William Roberts mhm h. If that guy just was his
own guy and Rick was his own guy, then yeah,
I would say. Vanity is putting on all the designer
clothes you own in the same outfit and driving seven
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Lamborghinis of different colors down the street doing zigzags on
your way to wherever it is that you're going. As
it looks that's how you travel, is portrayed by your
video something like that, you know or you know in
cases for like one thing I think is pretty straight line.
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It's like women now have seen female artists where like
it's like like performance makeup you have to wear, not
regular makeup if you're going to be on the stage
who are looking at you from far away. Well now
they wear that ship to work. M And that's a
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manifestation of an artist's vanity coming They prostitution culture, Oh yeah,
they are impeding on prostitution culture and get mad when
they get the same energy as fucking hilarious to me,
I agree, But I've heard that a lot of times
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where it's like you don't judge a book by its cover.
It's like that's always been a goofy expression because books
have covers for that exact reason. Yeah, that was the reason.
Why did you need to cover? Yeah, and to the
extent that it's a scenario where a person is controlling
how he looks or she looks. They could have looked anyway.
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They chose that way. Yeah, they chose a well spoken
perspective or a well spoken for look. Yeah. Very true.
Um people like Kanye West, um jay Z. I do
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think I am. I think the more I thought about
what he was saying, vanity is and I think we
see it as vanity because we get the point right immediately.
You didn't need to oversell us. But I don't know
if the average human being would think of certain people
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like Rick Ross as vain, like the rose the character
the rapper, not the human being that's rapping the wraps,
but the character as vain. I think they just see
him is all day long, things like oh okay, he's
a drug dealer. But but I had this conversation I
talked to you about it where a guy was asking
me did I really sell drugs? And I'm like, yeah,
(31:08):
I really sold PCP and crack, I mean in marijuana.
He's like, well, why don't you dress like Rick Ross?
And I was like, drug dealers don't dress like Rick.
Then it hit me. TV is what's programming people to
believe this is all they know. But TV is also
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great to make sure that the average person who doesn't know,
you know what I mean, gets the picture. Yeah. So
if I'm telling him real drug dealers, I'm telling him
real drug dealers don't dress like this because I know,
really rich drug dealers. Yeah, and I ain't never seen,
you know, these people dressed like none of these characters
(31:53):
in a film or Scarface or you know, none of
this stuff. And to him, all he knows is the
character that is Scarface, you know what I mean, from
the movie. And then he said Rick Rows and Rick Rose.
His whole marketing plan as a as a as a
rapper is I'm gonna dress like Scarface because the rap
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excuse me, the movie Scarface is a Miami drug dealer
like niggas in Miami is not wearing Linen. Yeah, And
I think also part of it is, like you can
see it in the popularity of minor league sports. You know,
there isn't any So for the American consumer, they only
(32:39):
want to even just hear about the most prolific. So
if there's going to be like a show made about
a drug dealer, it's gonna be made about meats. They're
gonna be made about one hundred million dollar novelty that's
the most interesting, not about the five million dollar guy,
which there's you know, a thousand of them out there,
or for five or about the government there are you know,
(33:03):
So I think that plays into it as well. So
then I think because of that reality, because the USFL
failed because no one goes to the minor league baseball
game and Little Rock, Arkansas, now you have to say,
all right, well, if I'm going to project an image
to market, I need to project the image of all
images to market. I have to be the biggest deal
(33:24):
of whatever type of deal I am. If I'm provocative,
I have to be the singularly most provocative human that's
ever been born, or no one cares. And you kind
of saw that before, like we were kind of talking
about that. Maybe in a different context with um oh Man,
(33:46):
who's the rapper who's black and gay, who did the
Cowboys song Oh Little nas Yeah, he tends to maybe
be a little bit provocative as well, also with the
devil theme. I think at one point sure, but see
his his his rhetoric was, Oh, everybody is telling me
I'm going to hill anyway, so lett me blah blah blah,
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which was what was the deal with the other guy.
I'm not Smith really just copied the same idea. It
was corny, I don't. I don't think it really worked
out for him. I didn't. I didn't feel the boom
of it all. Maybe it worked in the white community,
but I didn't feel the boom of it all like
I did with Little nas X. I didn't feel the
(34:30):
same boom. Yeah, I think it was used. I see see.
I think in real life, like when you first see something,
it don't have to be over the top. It's the
first time you've seen it, so it is over the
top exactly. I mean, the first time you saw Snoop
Dog as a gangster rapper, he didn't have to be
(34:51):
over the top. If he just wore a couple of
the pieces, you never saw it before, so it's like, oh,
this is the first time versus fast forward thirty years.
You know what I'm saying, You like, I've seen that before.
What does it look like over the top? Yeah, And
I think that's also sort of not to cut you off, uh,
(35:14):
because from five to five c Mac, it's it's it
seems over the top vein, you know what I mean,
like the Hoover killer on his head, like he's just
you know, the the greatest destruction of another gang there is,
you know what I'm saying, And that's the the average person.
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But he can't believe that. I hope he don't really
truly believe that, because you know, you're talking about another
community with you know, thousands of members who you know,
they've been around as long as street life and and
and you know, urban Los Angeles has been around, you know,
as far as black people go. I'd imagine if he
(35:58):
believed that, really, it probably wouldn't be here, Yeah, because
at that point you would be out trying to carry
out the mission and you're gonna pretty much run into
bad luck eventually pretty fast. Yeah. But I agree it
does come across excessive, you know, the way he speaks
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you know he's gonna put the five be five me,
not before me be five me. So I guess it
is this excessive pride in the community where you know,
but see it's hard for me right even as an artist,
because it's like I was always taught the genuine article.
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Don't got to put it on like that. Like the
richest drug dealers, I know, they didn't never buy designer clothes.
And these niggas where millionaires. They're also not an entertainment
nor wanted to be coming to America. Great, that was
(37:06):
the spoon. That was the swoon. Oh fuck. And I
think that's something that we maybe society has lost a
little bit of, um a grasp on is the difference
between walking like I talk it because there's no show
(37:26):
about what I do and you know, people who's earning
of a living, isn't the show about what they do?
Is the show? Is? This is the show? You know?
Like there's hedge fund guys worth nine figures all over
the place, not all over the place, but where they
(37:48):
are in concentration, they are all over the place. It's
like I think there's like regular guys. I mean, they
have a little bit more, but you wouldn't think, well,
if that guy would thirty or forty million dollars, looks
like that. That That guy's got four hundred million dollars. What
must he look like? He looks like a regular guy. Hmm.
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But when head said it to me, just like when
you said it to me, vanity, the only way the
general population can get it, even at his most basic level,
is it has to in the intellectual mind that's presenting
or processing. It would have to be vanity. It had
(38:34):
to be presented and damn that's fucked up. It would
have to be the sent in vain. Yeah. Well, because
like you kind of said something earlier, like first. But
I think that the motto sort of is you either
got to be the first or the biggest, you know,
otherwise who cares? You're just there? You're just another bladograph
(39:00):
on the lawn. Yeah that makes sense. But isn't vanity
a sin? Yeah? Some of that stuff with the Bible
has contextual evolution that is different. I think that if
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I would have bet vanity as a sin, meaning that
you're so vain that you feel that your role in
your own life is greater than God's, not necessarily that
you like everyone to look at you at the restaurant
when you walk in the door. And Christian teachings vanity
(39:44):
and it is an example of pride, one of the
seven Daily sins. Yeah, because it's like I was listening
to as. Actually it's Ben Shapiro talking about Juda as
or something like I said the Lord's name in vainue'
I supposed to say the Lord's name in vain. When
we take it as like, don't say like God, damn it,
(40:04):
you know what I mean. But I guess the classical
meaning of that suggestion is that you don't take the
Lord's name in vain, saying I am doing this thing
because God told me to do this thing, when that's
not true. I've always said that people the Bible is
(40:27):
a very serious literature book, and a lot of people
that we have teaching people about these teachings, these words
are not equipped to translate, you know, the texts like
these are truly big, serious words. I think we do
meet people that are spiritually discerned for the role, but
(40:49):
it probably should require a level of education, Like I
don't like I like a lawyer. You know what I mean.
You're dealing with some serious language and it's serious. It's
serious as hell, So it says vanity of vanity, says
the preacher, vanity of vanities, all is vanity. The Hebrew
word for vanity use is this verse literally means vapor
(41:11):
or breath. It can also be translated to meaningless, emptiness,
or futility. Sure, yeah, like an effort in vain. So yeah,
vanity is Yeah, I guess in that sense it's meaningless
or valueless posturing and representation. I think in the sense
(41:36):
that it's akin to like to pride as pride being
a seven dely sinners, you have more pride that you
have too much pride in yourself to understand the proper
relationship between your role and the role of God. M
sure that would that would make more sense in English, Yeah,
(42:00):
m hmm. But yeah, we live in a completely sick world,
like I said, watching that show, and people really think
that we got the Earth under control. Yeah, it's people don't.
It's amazing to me how little people have, like just normally,
(42:26):
like like reverence for scope either of space or of time,
Like people don't understand how big a large place really is,
and they don't understand how long a long time really is,
like at all you know what that bro That is
actually the truth. There is such a mute minute understanding
(42:52):
of what a long time is. And you know what,
that's the vanity and us as humans because we quantify
based off of our existence of what a long time is.
You don't quantify it off the existence of let's say Earth.
Even what we know about Earth existence we quantified based
off of our time. Like, what's a long time? I
(43:15):
was waiting on you a long time? It's thirty minutes. Yeah,
I get thirty minutes within the grand spectrum of time.
You know, this Earth has probably been alive. Shit that
might not even that's not even the wink of eye
for this motherfucker. Yeah. I mean, like just like a
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perspective that I has like jumped out to me. People
say gender is a social construct, Like all right, oh,
that's interesting. We've only really had a modern social construct
over the course of human existence for a blink of
an eye. I mean, like I think Jordan Peterson was saying,
(43:58):
you know, and that thing he was talking about with
the lobster and the brain chemical that we divested evolutionarily
from that about fifty five million years ago. We've only
been like literate as a species for about seven to
eight thousand years or something like that, right, So if
you were to look at the evolution from like backwards,
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like Homo sapien to like Homopyrus Homo habilis, all these
different evolutionary phases which are one hundred plus thousands of years,
men are more durable in those of one hundred thousand
year period. Men are physically more durable for ninety nine
of the hundred thousands of years, you know, to the
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extent where it really really really mattered. So now within
the last thousand years it's a social construct when the
construct was defined by ninety nine thousand years before it
of roles that were mind by the physiological constraints. No scope.
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