March 18, 2025 • 57 mins
Glasses Malone joined by Big Steele discuss the power of evergreen content in podcasting, the connection between crime and culture in the Black community, and the role of authenticity in storytelling. The conversation highlights the evolution of Gangsta Chronicles, perceptions of Black culture, and music’s influence on street urban life. It also examines hip-hop’s communal roots, the differences between street and gang culture, and the pressures on artists to represent their communities. The discussion shifts to Kanye West, debating genius versus narcissism, before wrapping up with reflections on hip-hop’s evolution and the legacy of artists like André 3000 and more. Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.
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Speaker 4 (00:47):
Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
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load glasses Malone. So now it's like normally I do
it on Sunday evenings. I do all my pads on
Sunday evening because it's kind of like a slow day.
(01:09):
Usually give me enough time to figure out how to
make a conversation interesting, not like cause you know, I
don't do it like other people.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I don't cover weekly topics.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Do you know?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
This is not like a daily show. So one thing
like going into season five and those seilings. I always
try to wrap the idea and something that's grander, I mean,
a bigger conversation to where if you heard it ten
years from now, the conversation still could be relevant. Like
I'm not knocking nobody who looks at this week's topics
(01:40):
and be like, oh, yeah, well I'm gonna talk about
this week.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's like I try not to do that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I try to. I try my best to make a
grander conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Ain't the wrong with that? At least you're doing something
the recently.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah, you know, and it don't necessarily get you the
instant weekly They don't get you the instant weekly impact
if I talked about somebody fighting today or something that
happened right today. But when you discover the podcast, if
you discover the podcast five months from now, the conversation
(02:19):
is still rich. Like people are hitting me every day
as they discover no ceilings from something we was talking
about in the third season. That's relevant right now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Still what you.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Do evergreen content, you don't have to worry about that.
I'm trying not to really cover weekly topics too, because
just make your podcast get old fast.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I mean to me, like if I was gonna do
a weekly like a like a daily topic, I would
need to do it every day, like the view of something, Yeah,
Monday through Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Then I would cover weekly topics.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
But you know, if we given an eye like you know,
once a week, It's like I'm trying to make sure
the conversation is rich and wealth and wealthy and knowledge.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I mean, some kind of perspective that's unique.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know. Speaking of that, man, I had a dude
hit me up man from Detroit. Man, dude is just
now getting out the Feds. He was a part of that.
Like they had like a multimillion dollar credit card ring
going at Walmart.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Do you remember that. No, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
They was going to go get you know, using the
cars to buy gift cards at Walmart. They bought like
a couple like maybe like five or six million dollars
worth of gift cards or whatever. Yeah, we gonna have
him on the show. Man. I want to you know,
like talking to people like that is just interesting, man.
Just a criminal mind is so interesting. Bro. We got
some real genius people in the community. Bro, And which
(03:54):
community in the black community? Like you know, some of
these schemes these dudes be pulling off the pretty incredible
they don't, you know, don't little bit of stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I try not to say the Black community because it's
such a unique thing. I always try to say Black
America because black community is so disingenuous in thought.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
But yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
It is some It's it's some people that be thinking
of definitely how to pull some stuff off.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
They don't play when it comes to pulling something off,
you know what I mean. So I respect all of that.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, managers now, bro, but.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Do you wonder like still because it is Gangster Chronicles,
Like I think that fits gangst the Chronicles, but it
don't fit the evolution against the rap chronicles.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well, you know what, I think we always got a
place to kind of like us. I think that's where
the show started at it was throwing those type of people. Sure,
I think it's cool to bringing in especially you know
when they reach out to Ukon because they want to
come on the show, you know, and I think that's good.
When I kind of like that, I think it's just
I think I think people make music about stuff like this.
People make music about scamming out, and I think that's
(04:58):
where that's where I kind of been envisioning, like kind
of taking the show is this is getting arcuse. You know,
this is our seventh season, so it's like I think about, like,
way can I do it that nobody else is doing.
I think that's cool to mix like the worlds of
gangster rap with the actual people. That's like kind of
like the muse for the gangster rappers.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Sure, the culture itself.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, the culture yourself. Like this dude was a scammering
and they called They said, what was the name of
the mom? Where were they names? Let me bread this
for you right here. Your family was good. I'm from Detroit.
A few years ago I was making my name on
the music scene managing artists. I had got picked up
by the Fairs and received the six year Since I'm
out now, no snitching. You can look my name with
(05:39):
Rodney gets five six nine two one dash of three nine.
But I have an interacing story and me and my
crew were part of a multi million dollar card ring.
Just google Rodney gets Walmart Detroit. We the reason they
changed the system with Walmart and the AT and T stores.
I feel I got something new to share because the
average story being told is the violence, drug kingpon story,
(05:59):
except no fraud, big story that's never been told yet.
Check us out. And I thought, da this little they
had a little name for their crew, Dog, and they
was they've like influenced rap groups in Detroit and everything else.
And he manages some some dudes now in Detroit and
the Flint that's kind of popping, like Rio to young Og.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And what's the other dude's name on the real assigned
to peasing, Yeah, yeah, he may manage them and stuff.
So I thought it was you know, we got a
really big following in Detroit and Chicago. Man, it's crazy,
like two of the most outside of LA, like our
three biggest markets of our fourth biggest markets are all
cities is known for their gangsterism. Houston, Detroit, Chicago and LA.
(06:48):
That's why I laugh. No, That's that's why I laugh.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
When people talk to me about they talk about some
rapper as They'll be like, oh, this rapper did something
for the culture, and I'm like, what did a rap
orde for the culture? Like all rappers do is benefit
from the culture. They don't do anything specifically for the culture.
But again, that's where that word kind of gets confused
when or like community, because the words themselves been watered
(07:14):
down so crazy, like like the culture is the lifestyle itself.
It's not the artistic expression which is the rapper. It's
actually what's happening when it comes to how people are living.
So like somebody will tell me something like, oh, you
know this artist has been great for the culture, I'm like,
how are they great for the culture?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
And I appreciate that. I think that's where people like
Adam twenty two DJ Vlad, people outside of the culture
dog they see it in its true form, so they
know exactly who to talk to. While people that were
brought up with it and in it their whole life
(07:56):
we kind of trying to Like I had a really
interesting conversation with my homegirl Barbie today and King and
they were just telling me how they felt. They were
telling me how they felt about like you could see
they're trying to move away from the culture. They like glasses. Man,
I don't know what we are supposed to do with
(08:17):
the Crypt store, right, It's like, oh, you know, we
need to make the Malone store. And I'm like, it's
funny because people inside of the culture are trying to
move out of the culture, like they feel like they
have access to mainstream America.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Hold on, I.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Just love like in the middle of class podcast, I
can get up and say hold on. We usually just
keep y' all there waiting, crazy, right. I don't know.
I think I do kind of agree with I think
I do kind of I was just telling the people,
see I think I do. I think we all do
(09:00):
that as we get older, we try to move away
from the culture. Because it's like I always tell you
about the Crypt because all I think about now is
how if something never happened where you know, you did
get him some Like let's say we got in some
shit one day, they would probably try to bring your
crip affiliation up and try to throw you some serious
time at you. I looked at some cat today they
gave some time too. They was talking about he was
(09:21):
a terrorist. Man. I mean, it's definitely gonna be misunderstood
on a mainstream level for sure. But that's kind of
the risk you run, you know, being a voice and
a representation of lifestyle for people in these predicaments. So
you know it comes with it's risk too, you know
(09:42):
what I'm saying. But I think that's the confusion, right.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
You take somebody like Vlad or Adam or Flock or
people that didn't grow up necessarily baptized in street urban culture.
They I don't know if they water it down as
much as they Okay, so there's the people who give. Well,
(10:06):
first off, this is no ceilings. Welcome to the fifth season.
Thank y'all for getting us to this point. I got
my big brother, Steve Peter's on vacation. We was behind,
so we made sure we still got it in to
have fresh episodes. I didn't want to put up a
stream for the lunch hour. You know, there are some
great conversations. I still wanted you to have, you know,
(10:29):
new places to examine and thought, you know what I'm saying,
So here we are.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I think there's part do that.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
You know what I don't know, because I'll give no
ceilings in the lunch our credit shout out to the
lunch Table, but like.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh yeah, but you know the people, the people on
a lunch hour that already heard that conversation, they could
look forward to no ceilings to hear something fresh and new.
You feel what I'm saying. It's like me with gangst
the chronicles. I never put up I try not to
ever put up like used material. You feel what I'm saying.
It's like because it's not good. I think we've been
around too long and our audio audience is way too
(11:04):
big for us just to be kind of bullshiting with
people like that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You know, you know it's funny.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I really feel like I should put fresh material up
on Tuesday, right, and then give them the three episodes
because there's a group of people who never heard the
Lunch Table on YouTube, on digital soapbox, on the stream.
So I notice all of these conversations are so rich
(11:30):
and I mean intellectually they are so special.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So it's like, but back to the point Adams last flock, Oh,
different people they see the value in street urban culture,
not hip hop, where it's the artistic expression of street
urban culture or the elemental expression, but the actual culture itself,
you know, not the round place Master Jay in his essence,
(11:55):
and they see the value in it. Meanwhile, we're running
away from street urban culture.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I'm gonna tell you what all these dudes do, and
they got successful programs supporting y'all call me a hater.
I'm far from hater. I maud with them dudes do.
They do a very good job of what they do.
And I can't really say Vlad, but I noticed Adam
has moved more to urban culture. And it's find that
funny because once he visited the gainst the chronicles, he
(12:21):
went back to his shows trying to do gangster shit
because he just was so like trying to figure out
what it was. And I guess in his mind that's
what it was that we was doing or whatever, you know,
because Alex Alonso to me, he kind of you know,
Alex Alonzo on what's my other man's name? From over
there from sixties from Princeshaw. Yeah, fact, huh, Jev Mac,
(12:44):
keV Mac. I think keV Mac and Alex Alonzo are
kind of like the inventors of the hood blog. You
feel what I'm saying of going straight to the hood
and talking to different people from the hood. I think
what Gangster Chronicles did. I think we kind of was
the evolution of what they were doing, in which we
had people actually sitting down having conversations with them. You
feel what I'm saying the podcast formatte you had a
guy who was kind of like the sociality, just the
(13:09):
police officer with loose, loose morol code. You feel I'm
saying that the crooked officer with somebody.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
When we came up.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
When we came up with gangst the Chronicles, I always
saw it as the criminal, the criminologists, and the person
who saws the crime. So the premise was built on crime, right,
and it made sense for that caz versus like I
always tell you what you eight and let's say somebody
else in gangst the rap, the conversation ship shift against
(13:39):
the rap.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, but you know what, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
But I do think there's a value that other people
outside are they see the value in. But I'm telling
you it's because we don't see value and inspiration. Like
It's funny when I listen to people talk to me
about street urban culture and they see it as degenerates
like I think that's how like like like, uh, what's
(14:06):
the man from a what was Samuel L.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Jackson's character in Django.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Jingo? What's what's his name, Stevens. That's how I feel like,
But that's how I feel people look at like he
would he would have been calling slaves, degenerates or lazy.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
So when I watch somebody like a black man in America,
you know what I mean, who trying to follow the
laws and shit talk about people who trying to get ahead,
like without caring about the laws, they call them degenerates.
I'm like that always gives me like like house negro vibes,
you know what I'm saying, Like I don't like that. Like,
don't get me wrong, I'm not encouraging brothers to go
(14:49):
out and commit crimes.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Like that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I'm telling you I don't judge brothers who go out
and commit crimes because I always I realize every law
here has been made to keep us, you know, back.
So it's like, how could you really be a pro
black person in America and be like, well, I'm gonna
follow the rules, Like if you was following the rules
(15:12):
two hundred years ago, you know what I mean, Like,
it ain't that different.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I think it goes twofold little bro. I think it's
like this. I definitely agree with you. I think every
law pretty much written in this country has been written
to impede the black man. I believe that people are intimidated.
I think people are intimidated by us man for so
many reasons. And I think it's kind of like a
guilt guilt trip. You feel what I'm saying That people
(15:40):
know that their answers don't did stuff wrong, and in
most cases they've done stuff wrong. I never will forget
one time. You know. I've always been an executive gee
right boy, and this cat that I work with, man,
you know, from one of the supplier houses. Man, I
keep their names out of us so we don't get suited.
Now with a supplier houses. He had called me about
(16:01):
something that we had to do in Atlanta, right, and
I said, okay. He called me back by asking, and
I figured that because he kind of called me right back,
or I said, you know what, maybe he forgot to
tell me something. I hear him in the background going,
you fucking nigger, you black b word you this and that,
you shit color. He just had so many colorful ways
to call somebody black dog. I was just kind of
(16:23):
like shock. So, you know, you kind of sitting in
the phone and you're listening to somebody, and so then
I just hung up. Then he called me back, like
I said, oh man, my bad. I was talking to
one of my friends and we play around a certain
kind of way, and I just laughed. I said, Man,
if you're gonna be a racist man, you gotta be hard.
I said, that's what I don't respect about y'all praised
(16:43):
as motherfucker's in LA and the West Coast. Y'all would
be prejudiced and the motherfucker but act like y'all like
black people. The white people back home as prazied as
they really praised us. They just said, fuck you. I'm
glad you gird that, you black motherfucker. I can respect
that a lot more.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Don't know about all that I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But think about it. G the people in Ohio to
me aren't the threat. I would be more concerned about
the motherfucker asking like he liked me, and that motherfucker's
moving covertly. The motherfucker back to the crib. I know
where they're staying Mmm, yeah, you see what I'm saying.
I know where they see and they tell you.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
But before we get looser and start going, you know
what I mean, like all over the place. Back to
I digress to the point of like the inspiration has value,
street urban culture itself has value. So I get why
you know Gangster Chronicles has a value. I just think
it'd be better if we like pushed it to SBTV.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Man, I don't know all that changing shit, man. I
think I think it's going where it needs to go
with the gangst the rap stuff. It's like I think
when you overthink stuff, man, it becomes less spontaneous and
it starts you don't think things belong to certain drawers,
not really. I think that's how shit gets.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Stayed your drawers and your T shirt and the same drug.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I think that makes it interesting sometimes because everybody is
putting they shit in certain drawers. Everybody has their life
kind of categorize. But this should be here initially here
when it should be like, just do whatever the fuck
you want to whatever it's dope. I'm gonna tell you somethinghere.
You know that most did you know that most hip?
Let me tell you an interest in fact, most hip
hop records that are hits out the key. You know that, right?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
But hip hop is hip hop is not correct, But
that's what I'm saying. So if hip hop is not correct,
I actually lived my life more with hip hop stock
see g. You know, what's the person For a person
to be so into the culture like you are and
really a part of it, you really more like a
school teacher or something. You probably live your life more
like a school teacher. A person that does a lot
of thinking, real deliver first, not necessarily. I used to
(18:56):
think how you thought where it was just what's dope?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Is?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Now I understand what brings the business to the business, right,
It's like it's like it's like I get why In
and Out does better business than all kinds of.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Other restaurants, especially Hamburger Man.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
So even to say like a mediocre Hamburger as you
referenced it, right, it is doing so well. It's because
it's the consistency and quality and they're specialists.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
We're talking food. Not nobody can see they not you
know what, In and Out is a very California specific thing,
and they're in Dallas. They're not as big and Deablas
as they are out here, they're not in Dallashit. Yeah
they are, yeah there down there.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Then they just started, but it's only a matter of time.
So it's like.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I was having this conversation with the same with Barbie
and King and they were just they they keep trying
to make Walmart, and I'm like, Walmart only works because
it's dirt cheap.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
If Walmart was expensive, wouldn't work.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Like when people spend money, when they invest energy and
time and money into something, they really want a specialist,
you know what I'm saying. So I just think that
I think that's why people do better outside of that
grew up that grew up out of it, Like like
we grew up inside of street urban culture, but people
who grew up outside of it, like they know exactly
(20:26):
what it is, so they've got to play that.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You think about this, there are more people like that
than there are, like people that understand what street coach reels.
That's the problem. Now you got a bunch of weird
motherfuckers watching weird motherfuckers online all get their thing off
what they think street urban coach reels. And it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
But I don't think they even worried about what street
urban culture is. I think the people that do know,
they have the consistency of it. Like no Jumper like
Flad like like those platforms.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So you think, so you think jump street urban coach reels.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, that's why they keep going to get guys from
the street urban coaching.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I don't think they know. I think they go get
people that they do know that they pretty much know where.
I don't think it's them though. I think it's pretty
much the other people on there. It's like this, when
you had the Homies A D and all them over there.
It was the same shit. You know, you keep going
to going to go get the same thing. They made
it crack. But the thing is, you know what I
will say, and I ain't gonna do that to Adam.
(21:25):
Adam is very he's very in tune. Now. I will
say this about that motherfucker. I really fucked with his
show when he was doing the hip hop shit, the
kind of because you know, I like that kind of
I like some of that underground shit, you know, I
think it's very interesting. So you know, I liked some
of that early stuff, Like I liked when he had
(21:45):
like when he was messing with like the the trippy red.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I did Adam, I did Adam with you parking must
died when he was at the bike shop. But he
was also going to the artistic expression of street urban coaching.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It's like.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
It's like soul food versus actually just using the seasoning itself.
So now he's realized, like, I don't got to go
through the artistic expression to get to the culture. Like
I'll just go get shout out to Nami four Extras.
I just go get somebody from the culture. I go
get brick Baby from six to so, I go get
(22:21):
for Extras from forty. I'm gonna go get the culture itself.
I'm gonna get Sharp Sharp as a pimp.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But but all those people really from hip hop culture.
It's like the four Extra dude is. He's a rapper,
but he's more known for this other stuff. I heard
his music and it was very mundane.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
His music wasn't good, but that's not so this is
another I have you asking people what's good? You just
call in and out right a regular mediocre burger.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna say, and I won't say four Extra
is whack. He definitely has something there, but it's kind
of mundane. It's something I've heard before. It's nothing unique
about what he does.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
You missing the point of why it's going to be
successful or why like Jello, Yes, because people don't buy,
people don't just listen. He no more successful as an
online character. Ain't nobody goes streaming that ship? I bet
you that to you.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Donna lost a couple of bets to me, trust me,
I know he's there's nothing unique like when you think
about these other individuals that are in street urban culture.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You want one bet because you know somebody that was
helping on a case. You ain't one through that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
No, I'm telling you about this music because I know
a little bit more about you. I've seen about you more.
It's like, that's the thing about you trying to tell
these images, Bro, that's not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's worked every time for who?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
For who else? You think every rapper that successful really
got talent and rap. Some of them got got good songs.
Hell yeah, Cardi b got good records, cracking ass records.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Had a bunch of people write records.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It was an image, don't They was jamming records regardless
who wrote.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
So you could take so you could take somebody from
street urban culture like a stripper culture. Put her in
with somebody that can write good record as long as
she has a decent and I mean her ship is decent.
She barely could wrap the words, like the words are
too much for her mouth. And I can hear it,
but the average person can't hear it. So all you
(24:24):
got to do is take somebody from the street urban culture,
like a stripper, develop her brand who.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Lets you get off on Cardi like that Cardi do
her ship.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Though I'm not getting off on Cardi. I'm just saying
Cardi is no different than for extras. She's weapon.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
No if.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Honestly, I didn't like when she did Christ, But that's
not what I'm talking about. That's that's not that's irrelevant.
I'm telling you she's not somebody who's a career rapper.
She's not a career writer. She's not this dope MC like.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
She she got some ship to her. She got off
every time I'm talking, but she got some shit to her.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That's not what I'm saying. Still, I'm not saying she
don't have good records. I'm telling you somebody's writing great
record for it. I'm telling you this is a perfect example.
If you take somebody like four Extras who is developing
his brand. People could register what the street urban culture
brand is and you put them with problem and problems
start to write some shit for him. It would be
the biggest thing because this is not about music. It's
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about culture first music, So it would probably it might work.
Then it might work then, but that's what I'm saying.
It might work then I'm telling you now as it is,
and that's if he would let somebody develop him. You
feel what I'm saying, Like, I don't know if that's possible.
Of course it is, man, Everybody can't be taught.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Though. I'll tell you this about that's one album still
and I'm gonna tell you, yeah, she does. She's scared
to put out something else. And that's a whole nother story.
But I'm gonna tell you, like this, bro, the problem
with some of these dudes is you know why I
would never invest into one of these little young dudes
some game culture. You'll lose your money. If I put
fifty sixty Brad, we put fifty two, one hundred racks
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to one of these kids, we lose our Money's they
either be in fucking dead or they gonna be in jail.
This little motherfucker is stupid. Why are you gonna get
a Snoop dog? Now? Snoop as sense dog. It was
a way difference between him and the other dude, Snoop
as sence life. But he also had an immense talent
that got coopled with a dude that was able to
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really mold that talent. Snoop was the ship dog.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I'm not saying I'm telling you what happened to.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Dogs, stupid stealer ship Snoop is.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
We always talk about these to these new people dog,
and that's true. We can do that because it's all
about youth, right. Snoop Doggy Dog is the greatest, probably
the greatest rapper of all time, the most long standing career.
I would say him in too short for the greatest
sport is not as too short, it's not as much
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of an international friend. But these guys have amazing careers. Dog,
They're staying at test of time. Snooper is in the
men's talent. Snoop is a generational talent.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I'm not disagreeing with that, but I keep telling you
your confusion like I was saying earlier is that the
general population can identify great talent, And I'm telling you
they can.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
For the most part, they get it right. They do
a good job of getting the right. No, they don't
because these people that you mentioning, gee, they only go
so far. Like look at this. If people didn't know
what was happening, Kendrick wouldn't be sailing like he do.
People recognize, Okay, he is very good. That's why he's
That's why bro. I listened to the radio today when
I was in the car. Out of ten songs that
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they may play every thirty minutes, six of them, motherfuckers
are his.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You ever know why that is?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yeah, But I think you're conflating different things and dodge
situation again, it's a different situations.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Let's rewind back.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I'm telling you hip hop is street urban culture built
on top of Black music. I'm telling you hip hop
are really is not necessarily the greatest, most musical genre
of music. It's very much a street urban cultural thing
built on top of Black music. Like listening to G
Thing shout out to Dre and Dogg. It's not quite
listening to Leon Haywood. I want to do something freaky
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Like it's still a level of musicality that exists in
Leon Haywood's original version of I Want to Do Something
Freaky to You versus Doctor Dre and Dog's g Thing,
But with dogs and Dre's g Thing even surpasses the musicality.
Like you said, the music version or the talent of
Leon Haywood is in street urban culture, which gives it
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this unique perspective that represents such a minute prop of
the United States of America or even the world's population,
and that type of styling of music with just a
good amount, just a good amount of musicality creates the
biggest records.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Like and this is where me and you always.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Disagree at do you feel like hip hop is about music?
I realized for sure you're wrong. Now I listen to
you your time, but I know you're wrong on this right.
It is more about street urban culture built on top
of black music. So you could have some of the
fast musical people in the world, but they will not
be able to pass and hip hop because hip hop
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first is about it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Let me ask you this, Tyler the creator, like, like,
where is he at? He's not a game band?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
What is game? See now? You're being ignorant, But I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Your whole life of street urban culture. You know, damn
Will Street urban culture don't got nothing to do with
thing is. He's more of a skateboard culture. That's more
skateboard culture, bro.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
So that don't say Tyler because Tyler is a street skater.
He's street urban coaching.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's that's he's a skater dog gun Will Smith very successful.
Tell you he got punched in the face. Who Will Smith?
When he was doing his thing. It's all kind of people.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Give you a number that you keep acting like these
people are not street urban culture, like there's some kind
of musicians.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
None of these people.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
What you're saying is you're saying that the hard body
gang bangers from South Central, if they get mobile, somebody
gonn write them a rep. They gonna be up there.
What they crippled in their rhymes.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
The world Never you're being intellectually lazy. I never said that.
You're being ridiculous. No, I'm just telling you what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
He play it back to you.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Don't worry everybody listening. They gonna realize I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
That that's what they can do. They gonna know exactly
gonna say still, he was right. She was on some bs.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I never said what you're saying. You and Charlomagne favorite
go to is whenever I talk about street urban culture,
you make it about gang banging.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Because that's what it is about you. That's why you
call it. Instead of calling your store Glass of Malone
Store or the Glass of Malone Space, you had to
call it the Crypt Store because you that.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
You because I realized hip hop is not about me.
It's about us. I keep telling you. Hip hop is
not the story of me. It's the story of we.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And the we that I am a part of. It's
crips in bloods of Los Angeles. So the Crypt Store
is the WE store, even though I am the Crypt
the lope, it's the WE store.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Me. What's the kid out of New York's married to
the umbrella? Is married to what's the chicken Umbrella? Is he? No?
But what does gang banker have to do anything that
you just said? You said the street urban culture, the crips. No,
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that's the part that I am. A sap is a
part of the A set. Yeah, asap mobs and hip
hop stuff, good boys and some good boys stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
It's not good boys running around New York terrorizing people.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
He just got off a trial for shooting one of
the members.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, for self defense. He's a man. I didn't say
he was a pussy. What do you think gaming is
shooting somebody? Because it's just what Thursday?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Just because I would shoot somebody.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
G if somebody acting like something a gang banging is different.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Do you think people just to shoot each other?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Colors?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Random ship you're lying to have and I'm and men find.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
That you saying is random? No, But the thing is
is like this. You have people who are gangsters, you
have gang bangers, people who have no sense of just
pressing people for nothing. What's up? Cuse? What's up? Blood?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
That has nothing to do with That's an ignorant person.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
It don't matter if that person was a police officer,
a gang member, anything, He's still an ignorant. Motherfucking he's
gonna be tripping that. Don't you act like gangs has
something to do with it. They don't be like, hey,
go around and just press people.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Everybody else follow the rules. Everybody else tend to follow
the rules of society.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
That don't make sense. We just said Tyler the creator
is a street skater. They're gonna skate where they want to.
That's one of the oldest, not the street skater. And
now I said he was a skater, he'd probably be
skating with guys in Santa Monica for all we know.
So you think he skates where you're supposed to skate
only at.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Oh no, no skater does that. All skaters have a
little All skaters have rebellion within them wherever they want to. Well,
see you equating that the gangster stuff. See, I'm gonna
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Your you're a Quainton Street.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So let me ask you this. The boy that got
a big record. From what I understand, he turned the
ball boy with that whoa whoa, I heard he turned
it out.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Sure is he street urban coaching. Sure his dad is
LeVar Ball. That's like Chris, that's like your son, your
son street urban culture. He didn't grow up in the ghetto,
but you was daddy. Yeah, so he get it past.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Then it's not a pass. But that's what raised some asshole.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Probably he was probably raised with his daddy calling in
my eyes, sohole, carly my nigga at seven, LeVar Ball
when LiAngelo Ball came home at five years old, because somebody.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Was hitting him, and he told Lvar.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
You know what LeVar told him, when you go back
to school, hit that motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
LaVar Ball did not tell that little boy. He did
not tell Jello go find a principal and tell on him.
He said, if somebody put their hands on you, you
need to hit him back. That's the first hip hop lesson.
That's the first street urban culture lesson that most of
us learn. If that though, no, that's not some Pete's mother,
Peat's mother told him go find the principal, and Pete's
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father told him, do not do anything. Don't put your
hands on nobody. I don't want to get sued. I'm
pretty sure. Guess what they're white people. It's black white
suburban Yeah, it's some black suburban people too. I don't
think will Smith told Willow go find the prince.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I think will Smith definitely told somebody if they put
their hands on him, the scrap back. I don't think
will there.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Was no pomp, but you it's not See see how
you're conflating the two. It's not about being a punk.
Street urban culture is not following the rules. It's not
about punks or not punks. There's regular, everyday civilian people
who follow the rules that are not punks. Street urban
culture is when you don't follow the rules, like when
you go to scoorl somebody put your hands on you.
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The rules are to go get a tense teacher or
tell a principal. Right, that's the rules I.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Was talking to put their hands on you. I remember
I was running home one time and my mama was
there talking on the phone. Do you remember how your
mama used to have the phone call with the stretch
way across the house. No matter where they was at,
they could be in the backyard on the damn phone,
the phone stretching out there. She was in the kitchen
washing dishes, and I had to run past the window,
and she saw me run up the things, saw some
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nigga down at the end with a full beer, and
I tried to get in the door. She locked the
door on me, put the lest She said, she said,
what you running? She said, what's you running from that punk?
For it? She said, you better go out there and
whoop his ass. And guess what I did, you whooped it.
I whooped out there and whooped his ass.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Because Irene was raising somebody a street urban culture.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
She wasn't after now, she said, hold on, Betty, put
the phone that's on. Wouldn't do this in the house
and call the police, the proper authorities. So again, you
keep trying to see this. Dude had to be about
three or four years older than me. Yeah, but you
probably was too much.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Is bigger?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, well he had a beard and shit though, that
dude was Leon. Shout to Leon. He's probably in the
prison right now. He was just destined to go on
the wrong path. So all I'm saying to you still
is all to you is street urban culture.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Don't mean you're some kind of gang member, like a
gang member is just an organized bunch of people.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
They're not even organized.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
It's a group of people that are together that break
the rules, even like like a tightler like I tell you,
even a tighter like a skater like from street urban culture.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
They go, they got friends they break the rules with.
If you do something, if you yeah, if you do something,
one of them our future.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Do ask the little singer dude, what's the little singer dude?
That's that's the game.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
He squabbled.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Chris Brown.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Beat Chris Brown.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I don't know if he wanted to fight Chris Chriss
squabb a little bit. But I'm saying he put up
a squabble.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
It don't matter. He didn't go tell them, He didn't
go obey the rules and go tell the police.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
He squabbled him down rules. When you don't upbraid the rules,
you ain't no different than.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
A crypt Oh No, I want to find out why
I'm to squabbing now. Did he touch Christopher Bluey ba
axon or something.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
This ain't no gay, This ain't no gossip column. Still,
this ain't TMZ, I ain't Harvey, ain't no.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, I don't do gossip. That's not what we do
on those sitting We don't gossip.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's not gossip. That's a real I don't care why
they fought. They squabbled, that's all I cared about. They
squabbled each other, they got cracking that shit. It don't
matter what it was over. And I expect nothing less
from Frank Ocean because he grew up in street every culture.
Same thanks for Chris Brown. Chris Brown, it ain't about
the powerby report. You grew up in street every culture,
for sure. His mama told him, don't let nobody put
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their hands on you. That's the expectation gang gang member.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
That's not about gang still, it's Chris and non gang member.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
No, I'm gonna tell you why the people you're trying
to gag member the first time somebody put your hand
on your son, what you tell them?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Go tell the principals exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Hell, you better fight you, but not be letting nobody
put their hands on you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
But not be letting nobody put their hands on you.
He's a gang member. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
What separate me and Chris.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
The fact that you at Krip What that means you
are a criminals smooth standing in the gang, supposed stepping
with still a villain smacking up all the holes.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Anyway, I'm just saying, I know that you have this
ridiculous expectations of gangsters or gang members or gang bangers.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You know what, For me, I'm surprised I'm not a
gang banger man, because I'm gonna tell you this, All
my friends, every friend I have, with the exception of
probably one or two, are from somewhere and not saying
that the most prolific gang bangers, but they're from a
gang and what.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
They're supposed to be because we all grew up in
the coaching.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
They are from a gang. There the game that I'm
just arounded by criminals.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That's what happened. I just don't understand.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
And it goes back to the point that I'm saying
Still it's like, I I just hate that when I
say street urban culture, y'all automatically go to gang bangers.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Well, I think that's what you're talking about. Bro. You
promote a lot of gang stuff. How I can't promote it.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
You have to say at the Crypt store because it's
about we, it's not the ray kuin stores, the Woo
Tang store.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Well, wake Down probably got his own store though.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, but it ain't popping like the Wu Tang store.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Because it's a different I would probably agree.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
So how y'all will get mad because I understand the
wire And this is what I read.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Don said it's the movement the week, but he said
it ain't no Big three, it's just big me. He
single week and like Dang with the program, but his
movement is PG Lang and power rules. See again the
gang stuff for the pow room now big group of friends.
Since he let people know that there was the prior
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program over there, he saw the game more records. That's
because more people can be PI rules than they could
just be one person. I want to be represented. Still,
we get mad when we get a person in position
that don't represent us. Imagine a black man going out
just doing whatever you want to, like Kanye, you get mad.
You want them to represent you. That's what makes hip
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hop special compared to other genres. It's let me heard
this hip hop on the line, he teetered the line, Yes,
he's about far away from me. Bro. I see the
stuff that Kanye be doing. Man, but I don't know
if he hip hop more so that is he's a
narcissist or something like that.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Hip hop people could be narcissists.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
He's a very narcissistic dude. Man. I love Kanye's music,
you know, like Kanye is in Craig that's genius. But
I think he's very narcissistic. I mean, you don't know him. Huh,
you don't know. I know from what I see. From
what I see he has a narcissistic viewpoint. Is how
he's marketing himself.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Mm hmm. All you know is how he's marketing himself.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
It's like McDonald's one hundred percent beef patties because that's
how they market himself.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
I will tell you this about Kanye West, man, Kanye
West got some of the best music of this last century,
the last hundred years.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I wouldn't go that far, but I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Kanye got some call stuff that Beautiful Morning. It's okay,
beautiful Morning, man, that's that song is dope. I like
Ultralight being more than that on that album The Flashing Lights.
That's hard. Oh man, I'm gonna tell you. Can't tell
me that. It is probably one of the hardest hip
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hop songs of all time.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
It's his song. But I like what you know about
that more and can't tell me nothing. Sign producer.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I think everybody would disagree with you want that.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
I don't, man, Look y'all don't really have soul.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I have soul. So see that's you. If somebody don't
agree with you, everybody is wrong and you right. Yes,
another narcissistic ways, your narcissistic crypt ways or God sent
me to be yourherd. That's what your things should be.
That's what your name should be. Glasses the n C
and your like GM no more G No you know
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what n seed the Narcissistic.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Crypt Narcissistic Podcast, Narcissist Narcissistic because I don't let you
have ignorant ideas around me.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
You just want to have narcissistic view. I'm asking if
you don't agree with him, you don't have no soul.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Listen, I'm telling you you got mad as I said
a difference, and you could have just left it there.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
You could have said, you know what, that's your song.
You know what you did?
Speaker 4 (44:04):
You tell me the rest of y'all don't agree, Oh well,
you know more people that don't mean y'all. Right, y'all
really have ship taste. Y'all may make Donald's no more
restaurant in the world.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
So you didn't like Father stretching, stretch my hands.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I think it's cool. I'm not a big into that.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
That's a dope because you know you don't want to
see you like the easy hip hop pep it ain't
going fump, but the Crypt.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Like being on that Old Lady and the Babies. I
like Altright being on that album more. It's a song
before that, and they got more soul. Old Lady and
All the Babies with my three eighty frantish I'm burning
with the dirty hand.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
That's what she was like like this.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I like like being on that album. That's a song
or two before that that has more soul.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Did you like Niggas and Pears? Sure, it's my god,
that's the hippo boy between it. Yep, shout out a
little bro. Did you like Carnival? Uh? I like it?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
I like everything that Ty Dollar songes.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
How about Flashing Lights is another Genia song.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
It's one of my favorite Kanye songs. That was my
favorite Kanye West album is Yay?
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah Kanye. You know he got some good albums, man. Yeah.
I think though, I think, you know, with Genia is
like him. I think Kenner Lamar is probably surpassed where
he at now, though, would you think so?
Speaker 4 (45:39):
I mean, what's funny is before gn next, I had
a hard time putting the homie on the same level
as the guys I grew up to. I thought he
was their version of their generation. I mean, their version
of this generation. That's the Snoop and Cube of their generation, right,
So I looked at it that way. Now I have
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to kind of after after this last twelve months, now
he's slipped into my generation. He's like on the guys
that I grew up enjoying. He's on their neck. He's
on dogs neck, he's on cubes neck, he's on Dre's neck.
He's on like the best of the best guys that
I grew up listening to here on the ass.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
So then you know what, I you something dope hip
hop breeds the other dope hip hop because every generation
we have a dude that's like that dude, right, then
it's somebody younger that comes and kind of does a
little bit better than he did, you know, not necessarily
smashing or whatever, but hip hop. I'm really excited now
to see where hip hop is gonna go. Man, I
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think hip hop is gonna be just fine. I think
hipp I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
I don't think J Cole had stepped out of there.
And when at what Niles and his predecessions are, he
hasn't quite.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Fantastic.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
But I'm saying he's more of a generation than he
is becoming all time when like I haven't found the
right reasons to make him pursue not like put him
in the same category as Nas all his predecessors, the best,
the best of his predecessors, so like he quite hasn't
had this outcast moment, his his NAS moment. You know,
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those the big guys in his styling of music.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
You knew who I think you know who I think
Dotty is right now. I think that is where I
three three thousand was in the culture. But like just
more don't even have a solo album, so we're not
gonna do that. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That
is more magnified. But that sounds a lot like him.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
You could tell there is no Andre at three thousand,
there's only our casts.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
You sound ridiculous. One of the greatest raptors ever. No,
he's part of one of the greatest group seven he
doesn't have. So he's a great artist. He's a very
lauded and critically, you know, critically acclaimed. They love him.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
No outcast is critically a claim. He doesn't happen any
great rappers.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
They always mixed nine three three thousand. That's because they're ridiculous.
He's not a solo rapper. They don't agree with you.
They mixed him for a reason. He's very dope.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, but they also ignorant. That's cool, they're just wrong.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Who's wrong? So everybody. So all these great writers and
bloggers just they just got it wrong. You got it right.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I mean you would at least would imagine somebody needs
to have a solo song to be in this conversation.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
He wanted to the man didn't want to rap no more.
You know what I think happened to them?
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Why he never put a solo song before this?
Speaker 1 (48:43):
He did have a solo song. He did, Yes, he did. No,
he has one solo song, Mom and dad, because they
understand he had a whole album. That's not that's an
outcast album. He had a whole album on an outcast album.
But he had a whole one. But you miss me exactly.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Listen, and.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
He doesn't even need to have an album. It's just
a McDonald album. All you're doing is McDonald's to me.
All you're doing is telling me McDonald's I don't care
about what I'm telling you, and has went out of
his way. You speak, let me speak without you catering
to people's ignorance. Andre three thousand has went out his
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way to not be a solo artist, only for you
to keep trying to.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Make him a solo artist.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
I'm not doing it. Out Cast is one of the
greatest critically acclaimed acts of all time. Andre three thousand
has a flu album. I don't quite know the critique
or that's his solo album. There's no rapping on it,
not even one verse.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
And you know what, and his verses were so potent
in the group that he's.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Just one hat.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
His versus are just one half of a great song.
Is one third of a great song. Big Boy is
a great verse, and there's probably a great hook. I
don't understand. Look, man, sometimes we don't have to do
(50:20):
public opinion.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
I ain't doing public opinion. I'm gonna tell you what
it is. I mean, three thousand might actually be the
go prime Mindree three thousand was so artistically phenomenal Andre
three thousand, it is. He's a He's a phenomenal artist.
It ain't nothing going with Andre in that company. There's
(50:43):
no Andre three thousand. That's only Outcast, Outcast, Andre three thousand,
three thousand, it's one of the greatest raferences of all time. Gee,
where you.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Getting the greatest groups of all time?
Speaker 1 (50:56):
No, he is. You're trying not to get it to
him because you probably never even listening to him. I've
heard every Outcast album what's his verse on players ball
stop as it's a verse on a great song. It's
beginning to look a lot like ones follow my every.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Doing one half of an outcast song for me, I
know outcast album. I'm telling you there's no Andre three
thousand albums, so to compare Kendrick, who has six or
seven solo albums.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Then the corner of my cadillact my heart does not
gonna put the pat for no rat. I'm leaning back
my elbows out the window because I can ENDU feels
my body. Where's the party? Oh? That nigga was hard
dog the way y'all disrespect, I hope big boys slap
you on your face. Big boy is hard too, Like, no,
(51:50):
don't do what you're doing herd y'all because y'all are
y'all are the greatest disrespect to Big Boy ever in
this great one. It's one of the greats of all time.
They booth was great. They're a part of our make
Big Boy look bad. There is no Andre. Andre is
(52:11):
a flu Andre three Stacks is a flutist as a
solo actor. Andre three Stacks as an older man, that's
what he choose to do.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
No, he only asked one album as a solo album,
and it's a flu album. He's a flutist.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
He's a rapper. He come back and rapp anytime he
wants you. You don't hold on. This is what Genius
says about him. Often regarded as one of the best
rappers of all time. Atlantic George is Andre and Atlanta
George is Andre and Loren Benjamin, better known by his
stage name Andre three thousand. It's also a singer, songwriter,
(52:48):
record producer, multi instrumentalist, and actor, best known for his
work as one half of the hip hop dual Outcast
along with his partner and Ryan big Boy allten. Regarded
as one of the greatest rappers ever, Genius said.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
This, I don't understand why you're telling me what Genia.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Said, because there's a million other people who agree with me.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Y'all ignorant. There's a million people that think niggas just
still all the time too.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
No, no, gee, he's a good rapper. Why you why
you refuse that solo? He's not a solo act. Itbody
comparing He didn't have.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
I got to have own, so on, hold on, you're
comparing it to a solo act. I'm telling you he's
part of one of he's probably part of the greatest
rap group of all time. I'm telling you he didn't
do any more heavy lifting than his partner or the
production was very heavy lifting. So you said carry big boy.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
No, I didn't say that. You just what is he doing.
I'm gonna tell you now that he got one of
the best catalogs in hip hop brother solo.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
There is no solo, so it's only our cast, one
of the greatest catalogs.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
And Grade three thousand, one of the greatest rappers ever.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
He's not. He's not a solo artist.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
It don't matter. He don't have to be. He don't
have to be to be a great rapper. Talking about that,
so you're saying, because you're saying records, record sales are
quit quite greatness, what does record sells have to do anything. No,
because you said that he was a solo artist. So
you're saying will say that the niggas that don't sell
records of white too.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
No, I'm telling you he's not a solo artist.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
He could be if he wanted to. I don't agree.
I don't think he thought he could if he was.
So if he was, he wasn't so selfish, So just
not a meat person. See you a meat person? You
know I'm gonna do the solo album. Mister, you're mad
because I won't name my website after me, and I
name it after us, and you mad about it. Name
(54:56):
that cryptstory dot com criminal organization?
Speaker 2 (55:02):
So was not Turner? You mad at him too?
Speaker 1 (55:05):
No, what Matt Turner was rebel for a cause? You
don't think that. I you don't think I rebel for
a cause. I think the crypts Do you know for
what it stands for? A Yeah, I don't think everybody
out there cripping for necessary for justice? So then why
are you telling me what everybody else doing? I don't
think so. You might be one of them. You might
be one in a million, one, one in twenty thousands
(55:29):
in L A G. Maybe a couple tens of thousands.
You don't think it's hundreds of thousands, no special special everybody. Oh, Charles,
I just.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Don't understand what what like?
Speaker 1 (55:48):
When did that?
Speaker 4 (55:49):
That's crazy? You just get on these things and just
be entertaining. I thought you'd be really having a real conversation.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
You just be having a real conversation. Bro, I'm telling
you what's on my mind. I think I am free
and the other agree with me, so I can't be
too far off. He is one of the greatest rappers
of all time. A lot of things. People will agree
with you on stef Yeah, they agree with me on this.
But you can do a poll. You can do a pole.
It's Andre is put up there in the polls Andre
(56:16):
three thousand and top five rappers.
Speaker 4 (56:19):
You don't think there's something wrong with asking the general
public something that they don't have information on.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
They do, they know what they're like to here, but
they don't. They never heard and thousand. They never heard
an Andred thousand songs before? Yes, they have there. What
was the one he had? Use you all that man?
That great? That's four rappers on the Yeah, he had
(56:46):
the heart. Watch Guard your heart, three stats. Just watch
your heart. Watch y'all for G three stacks, Watch y'all
for G. Watch y'all for G. To see three stats,
Watch out for G, Watch out for G three stacks,
Watch out for G.
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Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
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load glasses Malone. So now it's like normally I do
it on Sunday evenings. I do all my pads on
Sunday evening because it's kind of like a slow day.
(01:09):
Usually give me enough time to figure out how to
make a conversation interesting, not like cause you know, I
don't do it like other people.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I don't cover weekly topics.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Do you know?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
This is not like a daily show. So one thing
like going into season five and those seilings. I always
try to wrap the idea and something that's grander, I mean,
a bigger conversation to where if you heard it ten
years from now, the conversation still could be relevant. Like
I'm not knocking nobody who looks at this week's topics
(01:40):
and be like, oh, yeah, well I'm gonna talk about
this week.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's like I try not to do that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I try to. I try my best to make a
grander conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Ain't the wrong with that? At least you're doing something
the recently.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah, you know, and it don't necessarily get you the
instant weekly They don't get you the instant weekly impact
if I talked about somebody fighting today or something that
happened right today. But when you discover the podcast, if
you discover the podcast five months from now, the conversation
(02:19):
is still rich. Like people are hitting me every day
as they discover no ceilings from something we was talking
about in the third season. That's relevant right now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Still what you.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Do evergreen content, you don't have to worry about that.
I'm trying not to really cover weekly topics too, because
just make your podcast get old fast.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I mean to me, like if I was gonna do
a weekly like a like a daily topic, I would
need to do it every day, like the view of something, Yeah,
Monday through Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Then I would cover weekly topics.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
But you know, if we given an eye like you know,
once a week, It's like I'm trying to make sure
the conversation is rich and wealth and wealthy and knowledge.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I mean, some kind of perspective that's unique.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know. Speaking of that, man, I had a dude
hit me up man from Detroit. Man, dude is just
now getting out the Feds. He was a part of that.
Like they had like a multimillion dollar credit card ring
going at Walmart.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Do you remember that. No, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
They was going to go get you know, using the
cars to buy gift cards at Walmart. They bought like
a couple like maybe like five or six million dollars
worth of gift cards or whatever. Yeah, we gonna have
him on the show. Man. I want to you know,
like talking to people like that is just interesting, man.
Just a criminal mind is so interesting. Bro. We got
some real genius people in the community. Bro, And which
(03:54):
community in the black community? Like you know, some of
these schemes these dudes be pulling off the pretty incredible
they don't, you know, don't little bit of stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I try not to say the Black community because it's
such a unique thing. I always try to say Black
America because black community is so disingenuous in thought.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
But yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
It is some It's it's some people that be thinking
of definitely how to pull some stuff off.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
They don't play when it comes to pulling something off,
you know what I mean. So I respect all of that.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, managers now, bro, but.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Do you wonder like still because it is Gangster Chronicles,
Like I think that fits gangst the Chronicles, but it
don't fit the evolution against the rap chronicles.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well, you know what, I think we always got a
place to kind of like us. I think that's where
the show started at it was throwing those type of people. Sure,
I think it's cool to bringing in especially you know
when they reach out to Ukon because they want to
come on the show, you know, and I think that's good.
When I kind of like that, I think it's just
I think I think people make music about stuff like this.
People make music about scamming out, and I think that's
(04:58):
where that's where I kind of been envisioning, like kind
of taking the show is this is getting arcuse. You know,
this is our seventh season, so it's like I think about, like,
way can I do it that nobody else is doing.
I think that's cool to mix like the worlds of
gangster rap with the actual people. That's like kind of
like the muse for the gangster rappers.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Sure, the culture itself.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, the culture yourself. Like this dude was a scammering
and they called They said, what was the name of
the mom? Where were they names? Let me bread this
for you right here. Your family was good. I'm from Detroit.
A few years ago I was making my name on
the music scene managing artists. I had got picked up
by the Fairs and received the six year Since I'm
out now, no snitching. You can look my name with
(05:39):
Rodney gets five six nine two one dash of three nine.
But I have an interacing story and me and my
crew were part of a multi million dollar card ring.
Just google Rodney gets Walmart Detroit. We the reason they
changed the system with Walmart and the AT and T stores.
I feel I got something new to share because the
average story being told is the violence, drug kingpon story,
(05:59):
except no fraud, big story that's never been told yet.
Check us out. And I thought, da this little they
had a little name for their crew, Dog, and they
was they've like influenced rap groups in Detroit and everything else.
And he manages some some dudes now in Detroit and
the Flint that's kind of popping, like Rio to young Og.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And what's the other dude's name on the real assigned
to peasing, Yeah, yeah, he may manage them and stuff.
So I thought it was you know, we got a
really big following in Detroit and Chicago. Man, it's crazy,
like two of the most outside of LA, like our
three biggest markets of our fourth biggest markets are all
cities is known for their gangsterism. Houston, Detroit, Chicago and LA.
(06:48):
That's why I laugh. No, That's that's why I laugh.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
When people talk to me about they talk about some
rapper as They'll be like, oh, this rapper did something
for the culture, and I'm like, what did a rap
orde for the culture? Like all rappers do is benefit
from the culture. They don't do anything specifically for the culture.
But again, that's where that word kind of gets confused
when or like community, because the words themselves been watered
(07:14):
down so crazy, like like the culture is the lifestyle itself.
It's not the artistic expression which is the rapper. It's
actually what's happening when it comes to how people are living.
So like somebody will tell me something like, oh, you
know this artist has been great for the culture, I'm like,
how are they great for the culture?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
And I appreciate that. I think that's where people like
Adam twenty two DJ Vlad, people outside of the culture
dog they see it in its true form, so they
know exactly who to talk to. While people that were
brought up with it and in it their whole life
(07:56):
we kind of trying to Like I had a really
interesting conversation with my homegirl Barbie today and King and
they were just telling me how they felt. They were
telling me how they felt about like you could see
they're trying to move away from the culture. They like glasses. Man,
I don't know what we are supposed to do with
(08:17):
the Crypt store, right, It's like, oh, you know, we
need to make the Malone store. And I'm like, it's
funny because people inside of the culture are trying to
move out of the culture, like they feel like they
have access to mainstream America.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Hold on, I.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Just love like in the middle of class podcast, I
can get up and say hold on. We usually just
keep y' all there waiting, crazy, right. I don't know.
I think I do kind of agree with I think
I do kind of I was just telling the people,
see I think I do. I think we all do
(09:00):
that as we get older, we try to move away
from the culture. Because it's like I always tell you
about the Crypt because all I think about now is
how if something never happened where you know, you did
get him some Like let's say we got in some
shit one day, they would probably try to bring your
crip affiliation up and try to throw you some serious
time at you. I looked at some cat today they
gave some time too. They was talking about he was
(09:21):
a terrorist. Man. I mean, it's definitely gonna be misunderstood
on a mainstream level for sure. But that's kind of
the risk you run, you know, being a voice and
a representation of lifestyle for people in these predicaments. So
you know it comes with it's risk too, you know
(09:42):
what I'm saying. But I think that's the confusion, right.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
You take somebody like Vlad or Adam or Flock or
people that didn't grow up necessarily baptized in street urban culture.
They I don't know if they water it down as
much as they Okay, so there's the people who give. Well,
(10:06):
first off, this is no ceilings. Welcome to the fifth season.
Thank y'all for getting us to this point. I got
my big brother, Steve Peter's on vacation. We was behind,
so we made sure we still got it in to
have fresh episodes. I didn't want to put up a
stream for the lunch hour. You know, there are some
great conversations. I still wanted you to have, you know,
(10:29):
new places to examine and thought, you know what I'm saying,
So here we are.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I think there's part do that.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
You know what I don't know, because I'll give no
ceilings in the lunch our credit shout out to the
lunch Table, but like.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh yeah, but you know the people, the people on
a lunch hour that already heard that conversation, they could
look forward to no ceilings to hear something fresh and new.
You feel what I'm saying. It's like me with gangst
the chronicles. I never put up I try not to
ever put up like used material. You feel what I'm saying.
It's like because it's not good. I think we've been
around too long and our audio audience is way too
(11:04):
big for us just to be kind of bullshiting with
people like that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You know, you know it's funny.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I really feel like I should put fresh material up
on Tuesday, right, and then give them the three episodes
because there's a group of people who never heard the
Lunch Table on YouTube, on digital soapbox, on the stream.
So I notice all of these conversations are so rich
(11:30):
and I mean intellectually they are so special.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So it's like, but back to the point Adams last flock, Oh,
different people they see the value in street urban culture,
not hip hop, where it's the artistic expression of street
urban culture or the elemental expression, but the actual culture itself,
you know, not the round place Master Jay in his essence,
(11:55):
and they see the value in it. Meanwhile, we're running
away from street urban culture.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I'm gonna tell you what all these dudes do, and
they got successful programs supporting y'all call me a hater.
I'm far from hater. I maud with them dudes do.
They do a very good job of what they do.
And I can't really say Vlad, but I noticed Adam
has moved more to urban culture. And it's find that
funny because once he visited the gainst the chronicles, he
(12:21):
went back to his shows trying to do gangster shit
because he just was so like trying to figure out
what it was. And I guess in his mind that's
what it was that we was doing or whatever, you know,
because Alex Alonso to me, he kind of you know,
Alex Alonzo on what's my other man's name? From over
there from sixties from Princeshaw. Yeah, fact, huh, Jev Mac,
(12:44):
keV Mac. I think keV Mac and Alex Alonzo are
kind of like the inventors of the hood blog. You
feel what I'm saying of going straight to the hood
and talking to different people from the hood. I think
what Gangster Chronicles did. I think we kind of was
the evolution of what they were doing, in which we
had people actually sitting down having conversations with them. You
feel what I'm saying the podcast formatte you had a
guy who was kind of like the sociality, just the
(13:09):
police officer with loose, loose morol code. You feel I'm
saying that the crooked officer with somebody.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
When we came up.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
When we came up with gangst the Chronicles, I always
saw it as the criminal, the criminologists, and the person
who saws the crime. So the premise was built on crime, right,
and it made sense for that caz versus like I
always tell you what you eight and let's say somebody
else in gangst the rap, the conversation ship shift against
(13:39):
the rap.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, but you know what, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
But I do think there's a value that other people
outside are they see the value in. But I'm telling
you it's because we don't see value and inspiration. Like
It's funny when I listen to people talk to me
about street urban culture and they see it as degenerates
like I think that's how like like like, uh, what's
(14:06):
the man from a what was Samuel L.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Jackson's character in Django.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Jingo? What's what's his name, Stevens. That's how I feel like,
But that's how I feel people look at like he
would he would have been calling slaves, degenerates or lazy.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
So when I watch somebody like a black man in America,
you know what I mean, who trying to follow the
laws and shit talk about people who trying to get ahead,
like without caring about the laws, they call them degenerates.
I'm like that always gives me like like house negro vibes,
you know what I'm saying, Like I don't like that. Like,
don't get me wrong, I'm not encouraging brothers to go
(14:49):
out and commit crimes.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Like that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I'm telling you I don't judge brothers who go out
and commit crimes because I always I realize every law
here has been made to keep us, you know, back.
So it's like, how could you really be a pro
black person in America and be like, well, I'm gonna
follow the rules, Like if you was following the rules
(15:12):
two hundred years ago, you know what I mean, Like,
it ain't that different.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I think it goes twofold little bro. I think it's
like this. I definitely agree with you. I think every
law pretty much written in this country has been written
to impede the black man. I believe that people are intimidated.
I think people are intimidated by us man for so
many reasons. And I think it's kind of like a
guilt guilt trip. You feel what I'm saying That people
(15:40):
know that their answers don't did stuff wrong, and in
most cases they've done stuff wrong. I never will forget
one time. You know. I've always been an executive gee
right boy, and this cat that I work with, man,
you know, from one of the supplier houses. Man, I
keep their names out of us so we don't get suited.
Now with a supplier houses. He had called me about
(16:01):
something that we had to do in Atlanta, right, and
I said, okay. He called me back by asking, and
I figured that because he kind of called me right back,
or I said, you know what, maybe he forgot to
tell me something. I hear him in the background going,
you fucking nigger, you black b word you this and that,
you shit color. He just had so many colorful ways
to call somebody black dog. I was just kind of
(16:23):
like shock. So, you know, you kind of sitting in
the phone and you're listening to somebody, and so then
I just hung up. Then he called me back, like
I said, oh man, my bad. I was talking to
one of my friends and we play around a certain
kind of way, and I just laughed. I said, Man,
if you're gonna be a racist man, you gotta be hard.
I said, that's what I don't respect about y'all praised
(16:43):
as motherfucker's in LA and the West Coast. Y'all would
be prejudiced and the motherfucker but act like y'all like
black people. The white people back home as prazied as
they really praised us. They just said, fuck you. I'm
glad you gird that, you black motherfucker. I can respect
that a lot more.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Don't know about all that I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But think about it. G the people in Ohio to
me aren't the threat. I would be more concerned about
the motherfucker asking like he liked me, and that motherfucker's
moving covertly. The motherfucker back to the crib. I know
where they're staying Mmm, yeah, you see what I'm saying.
I know where they see and they tell you.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
But before we get looser and start going, you know
what I mean, like all over the place. Back to
I digress to the point of like the inspiration has value,
street urban culture itself has value. So I get why
you know Gangster Chronicles has a value. I just think
it'd be better if we like pushed it to SBTV.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Man, I don't know all that changing shit, man. I
think I think it's going where it needs to go
with the gangst the rap stuff. It's like I think
when you overthink stuff, man, it becomes less spontaneous and
it starts you don't think things belong to certain drawers,
not really. I think that's how shit gets.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Stayed your drawers and your T shirt and the same drug.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I think that makes it interesting sometimes because everybody is
putting they shit in certain drawers. Everybody has their life
kind of categorize. But this should be here initially here
when it should be like, just do whatever the fuck
you want to whatever it's dope. I'm gonna tell you somethinghere.
You know that most did you know that most hip?
Let me tell you an interest in fact, most hip
hop records that are hits out the key. You know that, right?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
But hip hop is hip hop is not correct, But
that's what I'm saying. So if hip hop is not correct,
I actually lived my life more with hip hop stock
see g. You know, what's the person For a person
to be so into the culture like you are and
really a part of it, you really more like a
school teacher or something. You probably live your life more
like a school teacher. A person that does a lot
of thinking, real deliver first, not necessarily. I used to
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think how you thought where it was just what's dope?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Is?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Now I understand what brings the business to the business, right,
It's like it's like it's like I get why In
and Out does better business than all kinds of.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Other restaurants, especially Hamburger Man.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
So even to say like a mediocre Hamburger as you
referenced it, right, it is doing so well. It's because
it's the consistency and quality and they're specialists.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
We're talking food. Not nobody can see they not you
know what, In and Out is a very California specific thing,
and they're in Dallas. They're not as big and Deablas
as they are out here, they're not in Dallashit. Yeah
they are, yeah there down there.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Then they just started, but it's only a matter of time.
So it's like.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I was having this conversation with the same with Barbie
and King and they were just they they keep trying
to make Walmart, and I'm like, Walmart only works because
it's dirt cheap.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
If Walmart was expensive, wouldn't work.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Like when people spend money, when they invest energy and
time and money into something, they really want a specialist,
you know what I'm saying. So I just think that
I think that's why people do better outside of that
grew up that grew up out of it, Like like
we grew up inside of street urban culture, but people
who grew up outside of it, like they know exactly
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what it is, so they've got to play that.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You think about this, there are more people like that
than there are, like people that understand what street coach reels.
That's the problem. Now you got a bunch of weird
motherfuckers watching weird motherfuckers online all get their thing off
what they think street urban coach reels. And it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
But I don't think they even worried about what street
urban culture is. I think the people that do know,
they have the consistency of it. Like no Jumper like
Flad like like those platforms.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So you think, so you think jump street urban coach reels.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, that's why they keep going to get guys from
the street urban coaching.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I don't think they know. I think they go get
people that they do know that they pretty much know where.
I don't think it's them though. I think it's pretty
much the other people on there. It's like this, when
you had the Homies A D and all them over there.
It was the same shit. You know, you keep going
to going to go get the same thing. They made
it crack. But the thing is, you know what I
will say, and I ain't gonna do that to Adam.
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Adam is very he's very in tune. Now. I will
say this about that motherfucker. I really fucked with his
show when he was doing the hip hop shit, the
kind of because you know, I like that kind of
I like some of that underground shit, you know, I
think it's very interesting. So you know, I liked some
of that early stuff, Like I liked when he had
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like when he was messing with like the the trippy red.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I did Adam, I did Adam with you parking must
died when he was at the bike shop. But he
was also going to the artistic expression of street urban coaching.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It's like.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
It's like soul food versus actually just using the seasoning itself.
So now he's realized, like, I don't got to go
through the artistic expression to get to the culture. Like
I'll just go get shout out to Nami four Extras.
I just go get somebody from the culture. I go
get brick Baby from six to so, I go get
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for Extras from forty. I'm gonna go get the culture itself.
I'm gonna get Sharp Sharp as a pimp.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But but all those people really from hip hop culture.
It's like the four Extra dude is. He's a rapper,
but he's more known for this other stuff. I heard
his music and it was very mundane.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
His music wasn't good, but that's not so this is
another I have you asking people what's good? You just
call in and out right a regular mediocre burger.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna say, and I won't say four Extra
is whack. He definitely has something there, but it's kind
of mundane. It's something I've heard before. It's nothing unique
about what he does.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
You missing the point of why it's going to be
successful or why like Jello, Yes, because people don't buy,
people don't just listen. He no more successful as an
online character. Ain't nobody goes streaming that ship? I bet
you that to you.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Donna lost a couple of bets to me, trust me,
I know he's there's nothing unique like when you think
about these other individuals that are in street urban culture.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You want one bet because you know somebody that was
helping on a case. You ain't one through that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
No, I'm telling you about this music because I know
a little bit more about you. I've seen about you more.
It's like, that's the thing about you trying to tell
these images, Bro, that's not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's worked every time for who?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
For who else? You think every rapper that successful really
got talent and rap. Some of them got got good songs.
Hell yeah, Cardi b got good records, cracking ass records.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Had a bunch of people write records.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It was an image, don't They was jamming records regardless
who wrote.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
So you could take so you could take somebody from
street urban culture like a stripper culture. Put her in
with somebody that can write good record as long as
she has a decent and I mean her ship is decent.
She barely could wrap the words, like the words are
too much for her mouth. And I can hear it,
but the average person can't hear it. So all you
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got to do is take somebody from the street urban culture,
like a stripper, develop her brand who.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Lets you get off on Cardi like that Cardi do
her ship.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Though I'm not getting off on Cardi. I'm just saying
Cardi is no different than for extras. She's weapon.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
No if.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Honestly, I didn't like when she did Christ, But that's
not what I'm talking about. That's that's not that's irrelevant.
I'm telling you she's not somebody who's a career rapper.
She's not a career writer. She's not this dope MC like.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
She she got some ship to her. She got off
every time I'm talking, but she got some shit to her.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That's not what I'm saying. Still, I'm not saying she
don't have good records. I'm telling you somebody's writing great
record for it. I'm telling you this is a perfect example.
If you take somebody like four Extras who is developing
his brand. People could register what the street urban culture
brand is and you put them with problem and problems
start to write some shit for him. It would be
the biggest thing because this is not about music. It's
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about culture first music, So it would probably it might work.
Then it might work then, but that's what I'm saying.
It might work then I'm telling you now as it is,
and that's if he would let somebody develop him. You
feel what I'm saying, Like, I don't know if that's possible.
Of course it is, man, Everybody can't be taught.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Though. I'll tell you this about that's one album still
and I'm gonna tell you, yeah, she does. She's scared
to put out something else. And that's a whole nother story.
But I'm gonna tell you, like this, bro, the problem
with some of these dudes is you know why I
would never invest into one of these little young dudes
some game culture. You'll lose your money. If I put
fifty sixty Brad, we put fifty two, one hundred racks
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to one of these kids, we lose our Money's they
either be in fucking dead or they gonna be in jail.
This little motherfucker is stupid. Why are you gonna get
a Snoop dog? Now? Snoop as sense dog. It was
a way difference between him and the other dude, Snoop
as sence life. But he also had an immense talent
that got coopled with a dude that was able to
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really mold that talent. Snoop was the ship dog.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I'm not saying I'm telling you what happened to.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Dogs, stupid stealer ship Snoop is.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
We always talk about these to these new people dog,
and that's true. We can do that because it's all
about youth, right. Snoop Doggy Dog is the greatest, probably
the greatest rapper of all time, the most long standing career.
I would say him in too short for the greatest
sport is not as too short, it's not as much
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of an international friend. But these guys have amazing careers. Dog,
They're staying at test of time. Snooper is in the
men's talent. Snoop is a generational talent.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I'm not disagreeing with that, but I keep telling you
your confusion like I was saying earlier is that the
general population can identify great talent, And I'm telling you
they can.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
For the most part, they get it right. They do
a good job of getting the right. No, they don't
because these people that you mentioning, gee, they only go
so far. Like look at this. If people didn't know
what was happening, Kendrick wouldn't be sailing like he do.
People recognize, Okay, he is very good. That's why he's
That's why bro. I listened to the radio today when
I was in the car. Out of ten songs that
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they may play every thirty minutes, six of them, motherfuckers
are his.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You ever know why that is?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yeah, But I think you're conflating different things and dodge
situation again, it's a different situations.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Let's rewind back.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I'm telling you hip hop is street urban culture built
on top of Black music. I'm telling you hip hop
are really is not necessarily the greatest, most musical genre
of music. It's very much a street urban cultural thing
built on top of Black music. Like listening to G
Thing shout out to Dre and Dogg. It's not quite
listening to Leon Haywood. I want to do something freaky
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Like it's still a level of musicality that exists in
Leon Haywood's original version of I Want to Do Something
Freaky to You versus Doctor Dre and Dog's g Thing,
But with dogs and Dre's g Thing even surpasses the musicality.
Like you said, the music version or the talent of
Leon Haywood is in street urban culture, which gives it
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this unique perspective that represents such a minute prop of
the United States of America or even the world's population,
and that type of styling of music with just a
good amount, just a good amount of musicality creates the
biggest records.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Like and this is where me and you always.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Disagree at do you feel like hip hop is about music?
I realized for sure you're wrong. Now I listen to
you your time, but I know you're wrong on this right.
It is more about street urban culture built on top
of black music. So you could have some of the
fast musical people in the world, but they will not
be able to pass and hip hop because hip hop
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first is about it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Let me ask you this, Tyler the creator, like, like,
where is he at? He's not a game band?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
What is game? See now? You're being ignorant, But I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Your whole life of street urban culture. You know, damn
Will Street urban culture don't got nothing to do with
thing is. He's more of a skateboard culture. That's more
skateboard culture, bro.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
So that don't say Tyler because Tyler is a street skater.
He's street urban coaching.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's that's he's a skater dog gun Will Smith very successful.
Tell you he got punched in the face. Who Will Smith?
When he was doing his thing. It's all kind of people.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Give you a number that you keep acting like these
people are not street urban culture, like there's some kind
of musicians.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
None of these people.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
What you're saying is you're saying that the hard body
gang bangers from South Central, if they get mobile, somebody
gonn write them a rep. They gonna be up there.
What they crippled in their rhymes.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
The world Never you're being intellectually lazy. I never said that.
You're being ridiculous. No, I'm just telling you what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
He play it back to you.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Don't worry everybody listening. They gonna realize I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
That that's what they can do. They gonna know exactly
gonna say still, he was right. She was on some bs.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I never said what you're saying. You and Charlomagne favorite
go to is whenever I talk about street urban culture,
you make it about gang banging.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Because that's what it is about you. That's why you
call it. Instead of calling your store Glass of Malone
Store or the Glass of Malone Space, you had to
call it the Crypt Store because you that.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
You because I realized hip hop is not about me.
It's about us. I keep telling you. Hip hop is
not the story of me. It's the story of we.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And the we that I am a part of. It's
crips in bloods of Los Angeles. So the Crypt Store
is the WE store, even though I am the Crypt
the lope, it's the WE store.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Me. What's the kid out of New York's married to
the umbrella? Is married to what's the chicken Umbrella? Is he? No?
But what does gang banker have to do anything that
you just said? You said the street urban culture, the crips. No,
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that's the part that I am. A sap is a
part of the A set. Yeah, asap mobs and hip
hop stuff, good boys and some good boys stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
It's not good boys running around New York terrorizing people.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
He just got off a trial for shooting one of
the members.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, for self defense. He's a man. I didn't say
he was a pussy. What do you think gaming is
shooting somebody? Because it's just what Thursday?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Just because I would shoot somebody.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
G if somebody acting like something a gang banging is different.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Do you think people just to shoot each other?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Colors?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Random ship you're lying to have and I'm and men find.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
That you saying is random? No, But the thing is
is like this. You have people who are gangsters, you
have gang bangers, people who have no sense of just
pressing people for nothing. What's up? Cuse? What's up? Blood?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
That has nothing to do with That's an ignorant person.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
It don't matter if that person was a police officer,
a gang member, anything, He's still an ignorant. Motherfucking he's
gonna be tripping that. Don't you act like gangs has
something to do with it. They don't be like, hey,
go around and just press people.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Everybody else follow the rules. Everybody else tend to follow
the rules of society.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
That don't make sense. We just said Tyler the creator
is a street skater. They're gonna skate where they want to.
That's one of the oldest, not the street skater. And
now I said he was a skater, he'd probably be
skating with guys in Santa Monica for all we know.
So you think he skates where you're supposed to skate
only at.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Oh no, no skater does that. All skaters have a
little All skaters have rebellion within them wherever they want to. Well,
see you equating that the gangster stuff. See, I'm gonna
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Your you're a Quainton Street.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So let me ask you this. The boy that got
a big record. From what I understand, he turned the
ball boy with that whoa whoa, I heard he turned
it out.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Sure is he street urban coaching. Sure his dad is
LeVar Ball. That's like Chris, that's like your son, your
son street urban culture. He didn't grow up in the ghetto,
but you was daddy. Yeah, so he get it past.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Then it's not a pass. But that's what raised some asshole.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Probably he was probably raised with his daddy calling in
my eyes, sohole, carly my nigga at seven, LeVar Ball
when LiAngelo Ball came home at five years old, because somebody.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Was hitting him, and he told Lvar.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
You know what LeVar told him, when you go back
to school, hit that motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
LaVar Ball did not tell that little boy. He did
not tell Jello go find a principal and tell on him.
He said, if somebody put their hands on you, you
need to hit him back. That's the first hip hop lesson.
That's the first street urban culture lesson that most of
us learn. If that though, no, that's not some Pete's mother,
Peat's mother told him go find the principal, and Pete's
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father told him, do not do anything. Don't put your
hands on nobody. I don't want to get sued. I'm
pretty sure. Guess what they're white people. It's black white
suburban Yeah, it's some black suburban people too. I don't
think will Smith told Willow go find the prince.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I think will Smith definitely told somebody if they put
their hands on him, the scrap back. I don't think
will there.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Was no pomp, but you it's not See see how
you're conflating the two. It's not about being a punk.
Street urban culture is not following the rules. It's not
about punks or not punks. There's regular, everyday civilian people
who follow the rules that are not punks. Street urban
culture is when you don't follow the rules, like when
you go to scoorl somebody put your hands on you.
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The rules are to go get a tense teacher or
tell a principal. Right, that's the rules I.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Was talking to put their hands on you. I remember
I was running home one time and my mama was
there talking on the phone. Do you remember how your
mama used to have the phone call with the stretch
way across the house. No matter where they was at,
they could be in the backyard on the damn phone,
the phone stretching out there. She was in the kitchen
washing dishes, and I had to run past the window,
and she saw me run up the things, saw some
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nigga down at the end with a full beer, and
I tried to get in the door. She locked the
door on me, put the lest She said, she said,
what you running? She said, what's you running from that punk?
For it? She said, you better go out there and
whoop his ass. And guess what I did, you whooped it.
I whooped out there and whooped his ass.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Because Irene was raising somebody a street urban culture.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
She wasn't after now, she said, hold on, Betty, put
the phone that's on. Wouldn't do this in the house
and call the police, the proper authorities. So again, you
keep trying to see this. Dude had to be about
three or four years older than me. Yeah, but you
probably was too much.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Is bigger?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, well he had a beard and shit though, that
dude was Leon. Shout to Leon. He's probably in the
prison right now. He was just destined to go on
the wrong path. So all I'm saying to you still
is all to you is street urban culture.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Don't mean you're some kind of gang member, like a
gang member is just an organized bunch of people.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
They're not even organized.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
It's a group of people that are together that break
the rules, even like like a tightler like I tell you,
even a tighter like a skater like from street urban culture.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
They go, they got friends they break the rules with.
If you do something, if you yeah, if you do something,
one of them our future.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Do ask the little singer dude, what's the little singer dude?
That's that's the game.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
He squabbled.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Chris Brown.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Beat Chris Brown.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I don't know if he wanted to fight Chris Chriss
squabb a little bit. But I'm saying he put up
a squabble.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
It don't matter. He didn't go tell them, He didn't
go obey the rules and go tell the police.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
He squabbled him down rules. When you don't upbraid the rules,
you ain't no different than.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
A crypt Oh No, I want to find out why
I'm to squabbing now. Did he touch Christopher Bluey ba
axon or something.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
This ain't no gay, This ain't no gossip column. Still,
this ain't TMZ, I ain't Harvey, ain't no.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, I don't do gossip. That's not what we do
on those sitting We don't gossip.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's not gossip. That's a real I don't care why
they fought. They squabbled, that's all I cared about. They
squabbled each other, they got cracking that shit. It don't
matter what it was over. And I expect nothing less
from Frank Ocean because he grew up in street every culture.
Same thanks for Chris Brown. Chris Brown, it ain't about
the powerby report. You grew up in street every culture,
for sure. His mama told him, don't let nobody put
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their hands on you. That's the expectation gang gang member.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
That's not about gang still, it's Chris and non gang member.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
No, I'm gonna tell you why the people you're trying
to gag member the first time somebody put your hand
on your son, what you tell them?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Go tell the principals exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Hell, you better fight you, but not be letting nobody
put their hands on you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
But not be letting nobody put their hands on you.
He's a gang member. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
What separate me and Chris.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
The fact that you at Krip What that means you
are a criminals smooth standing in the gang, supposed stepping
with still a villain smacking up all the holes.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Anyway, I'm just saying, I know that you have this
ridiculous expectations of gangsters or gang members or gang bangers.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You know what, For me, I'm surprised I'm not a
gang banger man, because I'm gonna tell you this, All
my friends, every friend I have, with the exception of
probably one or two, are from somewhere and not saying
that the most prolific gang bangers, but they're from a
gang and what.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
They're supposed to be because we all grew up in
the coaching.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
They are from a gang. There the game that I'm
just arounded by criminals.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That's what happened. I just don't understand.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
And it goes back to the point that I'm saying
Still it's like, I I just hate that when I
say street urban culture, y'all automatically go to gang bangers.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Well, I think that's what you're talking about. Bro. You
promote a lot of gang stuff. How I can't promote it.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
You have to say at the Crypt store because it's
about we, it's not the ray kuin stores, the Woo
Tang store.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Well, wake Down probably got his own store though.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, but it ain't popping like the Wu Tang store.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Because it's a different I would probably agree.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
So how y'all will get mad because I understand the
wire And this is what I read.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Don said it's the movement the week, but he said
it ain't no Big three, it's just big me. He
single week and like Dang with the program, but his
movement is PG Lang and power rules. See again the
gang stuff for the pow room now big group of friends.
Since he let people know that there was the prior
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program over there, he saw the game more records. That's
because more people can be PI rules than they could
just be one person. I want to be represented. Still,
we get mad when we get a person in position
that don't represent us. Imagine a black man going out
just doing whatever you want to, like Kanye, you get mad.
You want them to represent you. That's what makes hip
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hop special compared to other genres. It's let me heard
this hip hop on the line, he teetered the line, Yes,
he's about far away from me. Bro. I see the
stuff that Kanye be doing. Man, but I don't know
if he hip hop more so that is he's a
narcissist or something like that.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Hip hop people could be narcissists.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
He's a very narcissistic dude. Man. I love Kanye's music,
you know, like Kanye is in Craig that's genius. But
I think he's very narcissistic. I mean, you don't know him. Huh,
you don't know. I know from what I see. From
what I see he has a narcissistic viewpoint. Is how
he's marketing himself.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Mm hmm. All you know is how he's marketing himself.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
It's like McDonald's one hundred percent beef patties because that's
how they market himself.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
I will tell you this about Kanye West, man, Kanye
West got some of the best music of this last century,
the last hundred years.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I wouldn't go that far, but I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Kanye got some call stuff that Beautiful Morning. It's okay,
beautiful Morning, man, that's that song is dope. I like
Ultralight being more than that on that album The Flashing Lights.
That's hard. Oh man, I'm gonna tell you. Can't tell
me that. It is probably one of the hardest hip
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hop songs of all time.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
It's his song. But I like what you know about
that more and can't tell me nothing. Sign producer.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I think everybody would disagree with you want that.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
I don't, man, Look y'all don't really have soul.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I have soul. So see that's you. If somebody don't
agree with you, everybody is wrong and you right. Yes,
another narcissistic ways, your narcissistic crypt ways or God sent
me to be yourherd. That's what your things should be.
That's what your name should be. Glasses the n C
and your like GM no more G No you know
(43:35):
what n seed the Narcissistic.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Crypt Narcissistic Podcast, Narcissist Narcissistic because I don't let you
have ignorant ideas around me.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
You just want to have narcissistic view. I'm asking if
you don't agree with him, you don't have no soul.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Listen, I'm telling you you got mad as I said
a difference, and you could have just left it there.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
You could have said, you know what, that's your song.
You know what you did?
Speaker 4 (44:04):
You tell me the rest of y'all don't agree, Oh well,
you know more people that don't mean y'all. Right, y'all
really have ship taste. Y'all may make Donald's no more
restaurant in the world.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
So you didn't like Father stretching, stretch my hands.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I think it's cool. I'm not a big into that.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
That's a dope because you know you don't want to
see you like the easy hip hop pep it ain't
going fump, but the Crypt.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Like being on that Old Lady and the Babies. I
like Altright being on that album more. It's a song
before that, and they got more soul. Old Lady and
All the Babies with my three eighty frantish I'm burning
with the dirty hand.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
That's what she was like like this.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I like like being on that album. That's a song
or two before that that has more soul.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Did you like Niggas and Pears? Sure, it's my god,
that's the hippo boy between it. Yep, shout out a
little bro. Did you like Carnival? Uh? I like it?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
I like everything that Ty Dollar songes.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
How about Flashing Lights is another Genia song.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
It's one of my favorite Kanye songs. That was my
favorite Kanye West album is Yay?
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah Kanye. You know he got some good albums, man. Yeah.
I think though, I think, you know, with Genia is
like him. I think Kenner Lamar is probably surpassed where
he at now, though, would you think so?
Speaker 4 (45:39):
I mean, what's funny is before gn next, I had
a hard time putting the homie on the same level
as the guys I grew up to. I thought he
was their version of their generation. I mean, their version
of this generation. That's the Snoop and Cube of their generation, right,
So I looked at it that way. Now I have
(46:00):
to kind of after after this last twelve months, now
he's slipped into my generation. He's like on the guys
that I grew up enjoying. He's on their neck. He's
on dogs neck, he's on cubes neck, he's on Dre's neck.
He's on like the best of the best guys that
I grew up listening to here on the ass.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
So then you know what, I you something dope hip
hop breeds the other dope hip hop because every generation
we have a dude that's like that dude, right, then
it's somebody younger that comes and kind of does a
little bit better than he did, you know, not necessarily
smashing or whatever, but hip hop. I'm really excited now
to see where hip hop is gonna go. Man, I
(46:41):
think hip hop is gonna be just fine. I think
hipp I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
I don't think J Cole had stepped out of there.
And when at what Niles and his predecessions are, he
hasn't quite.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Fantastic.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
But I'm saying he's more of a generation than he
is becoming all time when like I haven't found the
right reasons to make him pursue not like put him
in the same category as Nas all his predecessors, the best,
the best of his predecessors, so like he quite hasn't
had this outcast moment, his his NAS moment. You know,
(47:22):
those the big guys in his styling of music.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
You knew who I think you know who I think
Dotty is right now. I think that is where I
three three thousand was in the culture. But like just
more don't even have a solo album, so we're not
gonna do that. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That
is more magnified. But that sounds a lot like him.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
You could tell there is no Andre at three thousand,
there's only our casts.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
You sound ridiculous. One of the greatest raptors ever. No,
he's part of one of the greatest group seven he
doesn't have. So he's a great artist. He's a very
lauded and critically, you know, critically acclaimed. They love him.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
No outcast is critically a claim. He doesn't happen any
great rappers.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
They always mixed nine three three thousand. That's because they're ridiculous.
He's not a solo rapper. They don't agree with you.
They mixed him for a reason. He's very dope.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, but they also ignorant. That's cool, they're just wrong.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Who's wrong? So everybody. So all these great writers and
bloggers just they just got it wrong. You got it right.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I mean you would at least would imagine somebody needs
to have a solo song to be in this conversation.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
He wanted to the man didn't want to rap no more.
You know what I think happened to them?
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Why he never put a solo song before this?
Speaker 1 (48:43):
He did have a solo song. He did, Yes, he did. No,
he has one solo song, Mom and dad, because they
understand he had a whole album. That's not that's an
outcast album. He had a whole album on an outcast album.
But he had a whole one. But you miss me exactly.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Listen, and.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
He doesn't even need to have an album. It's just
a McDonald album. All you're doing is McDonald's to me.
All you're doing is telling me McDonald's I don't care
about what I'm telling you, and has went out of
his way. You speak, let me speak without you catering
to people's ignorance. Andre three thousand has went out his
(49:26):
way to not be a solo artist, only for you
to keep trying to.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
Make him a solo artist.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
I'm not doing it. Out Cast is one of the
greatest critically acclaimed acts of all time. Andre three thousand
has a flu album. I don't quite know the critique
or that's his solo album. There's no rapping on it,
not even one verse.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
And you know what, and his verses were so potent
in the group that he's.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Just one hat.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
His versus are just one half of a great song.
Is one third of a great song. Big Boy is
a great verse, and there's probably a great hook. I
don't understand. Look, man, sometimes we don't have to do
(50:20):
public opinion.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
I ain't doing public opinion. I'm gonna tell you what
it is. I mean, three thousand might actually be the
go prime Mindree three thousand was so artistically phenomenal Andre
three thousand, it is. He's a He's a phenomenal artist.
It ain't nothing going with Andre in that company. There's
(50:43):
no Andre three thousand. That's only Outcast, Outcast, Andre three thousand,
three thousand, it's one of the greatest raferences of all time. Gee,
where you.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Getting the greatest groups of all time?
Speaker 1 (50:56):
No, he is. You're trying not to get it to
him because you probably never even listening to him. I've
heard every Outcast album what's his verse on players ball
stop as it's a verse on a great song. It's
beginning to look a lot like ones follow my every.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Doing one half of an outcast song for me, I
know outcast album. I'm telling you there's no Andre three
thousand albums, so to compare Kendrick, who has six or
seven solo albums.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Then the corner of my cadillact my heart does not
gonna put the pat for no rat. I'm leaning back
my elbows out the window because I can ENDU feels
my body. Where's the party? Oh? That nigga was hard
dog the way y'all disrespect, I hope big boys slap
you on your face. Big boy is hard too, Like, no,
(51:50):
don't do what you're doing herd y'all because y'all are
y'all are the greatest disrespect to Big Boy ever in
this great one. It's one of the greats of all time.
They booth was great. They're a part of our make
Big Boy look bad. There is no Andre. Andre is
(52:11):
a flu Andre three Stacks is a flutist as a
solo actor. Andre three Stacks as an older man, that's
what he choose to do.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
No, he only asked one album as a solo album,
and it's a flu album. He's a flutist.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
He's a rapper. He come back and rapp anytime he
wants you. You don't hold on. This is what Genius
says about him. Often regarded as one of the best
rappers of all time. Atlantic George is Andre and Atlanta
George is Andre and Loren Benjamin, better known by his
stage name Andre three thousand. It's also a singer, songwriter,
(52:48):
record producer, multi instrumentalist, and actor, best known for his
work as one half of the hip hop dual Outcast
along with his partner and Ryan big Boy allten. Regarded
as one of the greatest rappers ever, Genius said.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
This, I don't understand why you're telling me what Genia.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Said, because there's a million other people who agree with me.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Y'all ignorant. There's a million people that think niggas just
still all the time too.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
No, no, gee, he's a good rapper. Why you why
you refuse that solo? He's not a solo act. Itbody
comparing He didn't have.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
I got to have own, so on, hold on, you're
comparing it to a solo act. I'm telling you he's
part of one of he's probably part of the greatest
rap group of all time. I'm telling you he didn't
do any more heavy lifting than his partner or the
production was very heavy lifting. So you said carry big boy.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
No, I didn't say that. You just what is he doing.
I'm gonna tell you now that he got one of
the best catalogs in hip hop brother solo.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
There is no solo, so it's only our cast, one
of the greatest catalogs.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
And Grade three thousand, one of the greatest rappers ever.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
He's not. He's not a solo artist.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
It don't matter. He don't have to be. He don't
have to be to be a great rapper. Talking about that,
so you're saying, because you're saying records, record sales are
quit quite greatness, what does record sells have to do anything. No,
because you said that he was a solo artist. So
you're saying will say that the niggas that don't sell
records of white too.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
No, I'm telling you he's not a solo artist.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
He could be if he wanted to. I don't agree.
I don't think he thought he could if he was.
So if he was, he wasn't so selfish, So just
not a meat person. See you a meat person? You
know I'm gonna do the solo album. Mister, you're mad
because I won't name my website after me, and I
name it after us, and you mad about it. Name
(54:56):
that cryptstory dot com criminal organization?
Speaker 2 (55:02):
So was not Turner? You mad at him too?
Speaker 1 (55:05):
No, what Matt Turner was rebel for a cause? You
don't think that. I you don't think I rebel for
a cause. I think the crypts Do you know for
what it stands for? A Yeah, I don't think everybody
out there cripping for necessary for justice? So then why
are you telling me what everybody else doing? I don't
think so. You might be one of them. You might
be one in a million, one, one in twenty thousands
(55:29):
in L A G. Maybe a couple tens of thousands.
You don't think it's hundreds of thousands, no special special everybody. Oh, Charles,
I just.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Don't understand what what like?
Speaker 1 (55:48):
When did that?
Speaker 4 (55:49):
That's crazy? You just get on these things and just
be entertaining. I thought you'd be really having a real conversation.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
You just be having a real conversation. Bro, I'm telling
you what's on my mind. I think I am free
and the other agree with me, so I can't be
too far off. He is one of the greatest rappers
of all time. A lot of things. People will agree
with you on stef Yeah, they agree with me on this.
But you can do a poll. You can do a pole.
It's Andre is put up there in the polls Andre
(56:16):
three thousand and top five rappers.
Speaker 4 (56:19):
You don't think there's something wrong with asking the general
public something that they don't have information on.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
They do, they know what they're like to here, but
they don't. They never heard and thousand. They never heard
an Andred thousand songs before? Yes, they have there. What
was the one he had? Use you all that man?
That great? That's four rappers on the Yeah, he had
(56:46):
the heart. Watch Guard your heart, three stats. Just watch
your heart. Watch y'all for G three stacks, Watch y'all
for G. Watch y'all for G. To see three stats,
Watch out for G, Watch out for G three stacks,
Watch out for G.
Speaker 4 (57:02):
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