Dahlia Wilde goes on a journey with her Wonder Dog to better understand the universe.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome vinkommen yin venido y venu benvenutiaduti. Welcome one and all,
Thank you for joining me. I'm Galli Wild and this
is the Oh My God Particle Show where we talk
about science and art and music and good good good
vibrations and all matters near and far. So ready or not,
(00:33):
unpack your imaginations and get ready to rumble through the
universe that we are so so lucky to live in.
We are the stars.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Warning, despite the best efforts of iHeart, the chaos in
this podcast has increased exponentially since being published. If such
chaos has rendered the podcast effective, listeners shall not hold
iHeart hosts or its subsidiaries responsible. Claims in this regard
should be directed to the International Space Station Monday through
Friday six pm to seven pm grew to meantime.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm da Yail, the host of the Oh My God
Particle Show. I love to create as much as I can.
I love science and art and where they intersect, like
many beautiful languages describing the same thing. I wonder a
lot about the universe, like where did we all come from?
How did the Big Bang happen? How are we all connected?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
What the heck is my place in this giant soup
of infinite possibilities. For the last few years, i'd been
alone to my three x three closet with my beloved dog,
Higgs Boson, Hi Higgs. Oh my good boy. So I
started daydreaming a lot about going back to the Large
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Hadron Collider at CERNE. That's the Center for Research Nuclear
in Geneva, Switzerland.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
You see, I'd been there a few.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Years ago as a large Hadron Collider creative fellow. I
was mentored by this great particle physicist, doctor Mark Cruz
from CERN and Duke. I went a third of a
mile underground into the large Hadron collider. Luckily it was
turned off, for the particles in my serre bellum would
have been smashed to kibbles and bits. Doctor Mark and
(02:15):
CERN supported me so generously as I wrote infinite drafts
of my particle physics play called the Oh My God
Particle Show. You see, the universe is kind of large,
so it's a big topic for one play. I was
determined to understand some particle physics and share it with
my audiences so I could show people that science is
(02:37):
really cool. Lucky for me, doctor Mark's favorite expression is
there are no dumb questions in particle physics, because, trust me,
I asked him quite a few doozies. So I was
back at home in La La land, right the world
was shut down because of the pandemic, and I had
a screwball idea to apply for an iHeart podcast. I thought,
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why not base it on my Oh my God particles
show theatrical extravaganza. Well, you're not gonna believe what happened.
I actually won this freaking contest. Apparently everyone wants to
make a podcast, so it was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Can you believe?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
They call it the next Great Female Podcast Award from
iHeart and Seneca Women. No pressure here. But there was
a snag. I'd actually need to leave my closet, take
my dog, and get on a plane back to cern.
Where's my passport? Well, I'm freaking out of the way
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to the airport, right, So I decide I got nothing
to lose. I'll go right to the top and give
Will Pearson a call for a little pep talk. What
you don't know who? Will Pearson is president of the
iHeart Podcast Network. Come on, he oversees the whole enchilada
of iHeart podcast shows as Will Ferrell and his big
money player shondaland Arlamine, The God and The Black Effect.
(04:01):
And that's just for starters. I heard podcast Network rings
up two hundred and fifty million or more downloads the month.
I mean, that's a ton. That makes iHeartRadio the number
one commercial podcast publisher globally. I know, right, But before iHeart,
Will was one of the hit Houn shows That's Stuff Media,
and he created Mental Flaws, a media company that he
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launched in his Duke University dorm room. Basically, this guy
does it all. It's not only a laid back genius,
but he's super nice too. Let's see what he has
to say. Hi, Will, it's all your wild.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Oh yeah, so good to hear from you. How are
you today?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'm kind of freaking out a little. You are so amazing,
like you taught us so much at the iHeart Seneca
Podcast Academy, But I need you to remind me what
are we doing? Why did you start this amazing program?
And what can I do to make sure my podcast
is in and sync with all those awesome ideas that
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you and iHeart and Seneca have that you want to
amplify women's voices, So could you tell me what to
do please?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Well, as I may have told you before, the good
news is you already have a fantastic podcast idea and
you were one of only ten people selected out of
the many hundreds of people that applied for this program.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
So you should feel very confident about that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But we are excited about trying to amplify women's voices
in podcasting. You know, we have a responsibility and there's
a lot of excitement to take on this responsibility of
trying to bring underrepresented voices into podcasting, and that can
take on, you know, we can handle that on any
number of fronts, whether that's you know, trying to find
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those that have had not had the opportunity to be
in podcasting, or in this case, recognizing that there needs
to be more.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Women's voices in podcasting.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And so we started this program with Seneca Way in
order to try to find the most interesting emerging voices
from women podcasters. And so we're excited to have this program,
loved that you applied for it, loved your idea for
the podcast, and are thrilled to see a company thank
you again.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And I thought that was really interesting when Sey to Garrett,
who was one of the other nine women. She actually said,
what do I have to say? And then all of
a sudden I started to think what do I have
to say? But I did realize something that I guess
because there's so much noise in the world and it's
a little bit kind of nerve racking with the criticism
(06:37):
and haters. I know one shouldn't be deterred by that,
but I feel like I was always a leader, you know,
it was Truman scholar. I went to Oxford and Duke,
where you also went. Yay Duke, But I feel like
I became really quiet and like I wanted to just
hide in my cave. After being alone two years on
my own with my beloved dog. Ten people died, including
(06:58):
my mother and I, And your program was so helpful
because I started really to think about I better find
something to say. I have something to say, and if
the somewhat decent people don't speak up, we're just gonna
have more of the same in the world.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So, when I was looking at your videos of you
in two thousand and seven at Google Talks, was it
and you invented a podcast right in a blog in
your dorm room at Duke. But you are so confident,
So what would you recommend for girls and women to
be confident about their voices.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's part of why why we're here is to recognize
that there are so many interesting voices.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And it was definitely no easy task trying to decide.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Which, you know, which of the entries to pick to
get behind in terms of making podcasts. And fact is
Kim Azarelli who's the founder of Seneca Women and a
very close partner of ours here at iHeart and creating
this program. As she has said before, the hardest part
about this and the most painful part about this, frankly,
(08:02):
was having to narrow this to ten podcasts because we
know that there are hundreds and thousands and tens of
thousands and potentially hundreds of thousands of fantastic podcast ideas.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
From women out there, and we're just scratching the surface.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
But we're also just getting started and we're really excited
to see this program evolved. But we felt that it
was really important in selecting the ten women podcasters that
we were ready to get behind and help launch shows,
that group of those selecting them would also be a
you know, a committee of women helping make those selections,
led by Kim and some of our fantastic executive producers
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here but I know, and coming up with the qualifications
for it and deciding, you know, what would be our
guiding principles and selecting these podcasters.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
We wanted to find a range of ideas.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You know, it was not just that we were looking
for good podcasts, but we wanted to make sure that
we saw, you know, podcasts across so many different subject areas.
And part of what we were excited about in hearing
from you was your very real interest in the sciences,
and you know, we wanted to make sure that we
were inspiring people across the board from science to politics,
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to social justice to comedy to you name it. Wanting
to think about a breadth of subject areas and thinking
about the shows that came on board. But fortunately the
team really didn't have to focus too much on that
because it just sort.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Of fell in place.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Was we started evaluating all the different great ideas and
deciding which ones would be part of the program, It
just somehow naturally happened that there was a really wide
range of fascinating ideas and pitches and talent that came
in as part of the submission process.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Thank you for explaining that so well as you The
first time I saw you on the zoom, I was
just struck by what a great guy you are. And
it's really important to me that even this is a
women's Voices initiative, but to really honor the great men
that are supporting women, and then we can kind of
model that for other people, men and everyone else to
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support you know, their other halves.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that, And we obviously want
to get to a place where, you know, we want
to try to inspire confidence and creators. You mentioned, you know,
having seen that that Google talk, and and my experience
of presenting what we were doing the brand or the
magazine at the time was called mental floss. And you know,
I think the benefit for us was the stage in
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life where we were that we were too young to
have been told what the rules of the magazine industry
were or what we could and couldn't do, And so
part of it was honestly being a bit naive, just thinking, Okay,
we have an idea for a magazine, why why shouldn't
we try to go start it? And so I think
part of it in starting a program like this is
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to take both those who maybe again maybe they are
too young to realize what they you know.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Should or shouldn't be doing, and what the rules.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Of the podcast industry are, but then also to try
to give life two ideas from those who may have
been in the industry for a while or in some
field for a while, and maybe you know, have not
quite had the confidence or the realization that they two
are very much capable of starting a podcast. And so
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we were simply just trying to find the most interesting
creators we could and to do what we can to
put the resources behind those shows, and then hopefully over
time you have a generation and a community of women
who are also interested in starting podcasts and hearing from
brilliant creators like yourself and the other nine women who
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were selected to create podcasts as part of this program,
hearing those shows, and then thinking, you know what, I
can do this too.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I also have a great idea.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So part of it truly is not only educating, but
trying to inspire confidence in a community and a generation
of creators.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's such a huge gift and I'm so grateful and
I'm extremely interested in that concept of the voice too,
not only from when we go to CERN, you know,
talking about vibrations, and also where do all these podcasts
go our aliens listening to our sound vibrations. I need
to find that out. But I often like meet young
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women and I try to encourage them to use their
imagination to evaluate the universe instead of you know, there's
so much time that we our focus goes to other
things that might not be the most productive. Even though,
did you know that the Internet was actually started at CERN?
There were so many particles being smashed that there was
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so much information it was actually kept on one man's head.
His name was mister memory man, I'm not kidding. And
then but he couldn't remember anymore, so they put it
on a computer, then a lot of computers, and then
the computers need to just talk to each other, and
that's where the Internet started. And this is a message
to myself too, because I still, even though I'm trying
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hard to have more discipline, the internet is really wastes
a lot of our imagination. And so to give girls
courage and women anyone of any age to use that
imagination to evaluate the universe. And a lot of women's
scientists also say how they were told they were absolutely crazy,
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like when we all know about like Marie Curie, but
how they, you know, went on these journeys by themselves
and found these inventions and new formulas. So there's one guy,
John Rasmussen who's he's came discerned with me and he
said that it's and he advises a lot of world
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leaders and comedians and and me. And he said that
the feminine part of the brain is so important for
discovery just because of the way that women see things.
So it's from a different part of the brain. So
that'll be exciting to inspire hopefully, Yeah, somebody will be listening.
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And then how about so what is it about podcasts
that keep people coming back? And what makes a really
good podcast? And I heard that people since they're listening
in their cars and in bed, they feel like they
know the podcaster. But what can I do to really contribute,
Just be myself and be honest.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's funny that you you know, you mentioned people getting
to know or feeling like they get to know the podcasters.
It's always a funny experience for us when we're at
public events and fans meet podcasters. It's very different than
you know, at iHeart. We get a chance to see
this across a wide spectrum. So when fans meet their
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favorite musical artist, for example, there's this crazy excitement and
it's like they've met this celebrity that feels almost intangible
to them. But when they meet their favorite podcaster, the
number of times we've watched them just walk up and
just start a conversation like they've known them forever. There's
a different kind of relationship that's established between a podcaster
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and their audience. And we sometimes over use this word
intimacy when we talk about this sort of feeling of
listening to a podcast, but it's a really accurate word
because it's a very different experience. Most people are listening
to the podcast in their earbuds. They might be out
on a job, they might be cooking dinner. But it
feels like you're getting to sit in on a conversation
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between two super interesting people, or just hearing someone that
you find very interesting, you know, communicating a certain message
or some information. And so, you know, I feel this
myself when I tend to listen to podcasts when I'm
out on a jog or something like that, and you
finish it, and you do just feel like you've been
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part of a conversation or getting to listen in on
a conversation. And the best podcast as really do make
you feel like you know that podcast host. And I
know that this is going to come through with the
way you communicate as well, because you have this very authentic,
you know, communication style to you that people feel like
they get to know you very quickly. And so the
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important thing in producing a podcast is not losing that,
making sure that it doesn't feel overproduced, making sure that
it feels very real. And there's something about podcasts that
accomplished that that it's almost I don't want to use
the word amateur quality to it, but there is something
(16:37):
that feels like, again, it's not overproduced, like you're just
hearing a great conversation, You're just hearing a great communicator
that I think is really really.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Important, and I think that's what's worked with podcasting.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I think in many ways, when you think about the
evolution of media, our CEO Bob Pittman here at iHeart
talks about, you know, people's eyes are or sort of
tapped out, like we're overstimulated.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Everywhere we look, there is something to see, there's a
new form.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Of entertainment, and so we're sort of done in terms
of new ways to find entertainment on the visual side,
and there was something about audio that sort of found
these gaps where we have these moments where we're getting
dressed for work, or we're cooking dinner, or we're out
on a run, or we're doing you know whatever, we're
in transit, and there was an opportunity there for people
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to find companionship in those moments.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And that companionship came through.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
You know, came by way of podcast, came by way
of you know, people communicating certain information. And so we've
seen that just really explode over the last five to
ten years, and the way that people were communicating or
the format has been interesting to watch it evolve as well.
There was a point where, you know, maybe seven or
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eight years ago, where people felt like the definition of
a podcast was always just two people sitting in a
microphone to host, you know, having that conversation, and that's
still a great way to communicate.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
We found there's other opportunities as well.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
We've experimented with a lot of short form podcast where
maybe it's a daily five to seven minute thing, or
maybe it's a comedy podcast where there's a whole you know,
troop of five or six people communicating, and it's been
really interesting to see that form develop. And I think
that's been part of why it's exploded is there was
there was a gap there where people were saying, you
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know what, I have room here in my life for
this short form thing early in the morning as I'm
getting ready for work, or this thirty minute thing as
I'm on the treadmill, or this thirty minute thing as
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
The car headed or in the train headed to work,
whatever it may be.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So I think it was, you know, an interesting space
that people you know, made available to.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You know, to fill with this kind of entertainment or information.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Thank you. You explain things so well.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
And you gave me actually a lot of courage and
confidence to actually start where I am. Like I was
pretty scared to actually get on a plane. I mean,
having been alone this whole time and also writing and
all these really solitary endeavors. It was fun for about
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the first two years, but this past January I was like, okay,
time to get out of my house. But you gave
me so much confidence because that is really for me Anyway,
when someone says this is where I am, I'm scared.
I don't know what I have to say, but I'm
going to try it. So maybe you can come along
with me on the journey, and maybe I can give
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you some permission to actually talk about what's important to
you and we can start having conversations about new things.
And that's what my Oh my God particle show play
is about dreaming a new reality into being. And hopefully
I really love that Samantha Wilson from the Black Effect podcast.
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He's been an amazing mentor. And I'm hoping because I
grew up in New York in a Spanish Harlem and
my dad was a doctor in Harlem and an engineer
diagnosed first case of AIDS, and Harlem worked on Adam Baum.
But I really hope that the Women's Initiative, I know
the issues are so serious right now, but that we
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can still be lighthearted and that we can not alienate men,
but also that all the different diverse voices that we
can be like a united nations of podcast voices or
just all of us. Hopefully this time is going to
pass where I guess everyone needed to strengthen their voice
and their identity, but it just feels awkward to me,
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and that's my hope that we can move forward to. Actually,
one of the big principles of my play is that
if we're all made of God particles, which are basically
called the Higgs boson, which is the building block of
the universe, if we're all made of the same stuff,
hopefully we could all get along eventually, you would hope.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
So, yeah, you might think just getting something out there.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I think one of the other things that we encourage
podcasters to do is is to not feel like you
have to have perfected the craft before you start a podcast.
I think it's really important to get something out in
the world, and I think listeners, if they like the
concept of a podcast, you know, listeners are excited to
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be part of the evolution of a show, and I
think that's really important. We'll sometimes see creators that just
keep delaying and delaying because they want to create the
perfect thing before they get it out there. I actually
think there's really something fun for the listening audience to
be a part of that journey that when you launch
a show, it's not going to be the perfect thing
that maybe you envision from the very beginning.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Any successful podcaster.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
If you were to ask, you know, one of our
biggest podcasts, stuff you should know the people behind it,
Josh and Chuck, or a show stuff you missed in
history class with Holly and Tracy.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
You know, four brilliant podcasters.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
If you were to ask them, you know what they
heard if they went back and listened to their first episode,
or their tenth episode, or even their fiftieth episode, they
would say with each one of those, you know, it's
kind of funny to listen how you know, how new
they were and how much they've grown over this period
of time and in some cases almost embarrassed by what
they heard the first time. But the important thing was
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that they got something out of the world, and they
allowed it to evolve.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And I think their listeners have, you know, get a
chance to grow with them.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm actually excited to see how my voice develops on
this journey back to CERN and how I start growing
and finding more confidence about what I have to say
and we can talk to you hopefully again.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I just can't think of anything more exciting than being
in a place like that to, like I said, try
to uncover what every thing is made of and how
it all works, and from the large hatdron collider to
every other part of what's happening there. It just I
don't think it gets any more interesting than that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Maybe we'll discover a new particle or something. Thank you
for taking the time and putting me at ease and
telling me that I wasn't totally nuts. So I'm gonna
make this happen. I'm gonna make you proud.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Will.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I might have to call you back again.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I would love to hear from you, and I'm super
excited for your podcast and congrats on getting to this point.
I'm excited to see it evolve, and yeah, please do.
I look forward to hearing from you again.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Have a nice day you too, Take care.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I like this guy.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
What a super mench I hope they make a lot
more incredible human beings like him. I'm gonna cook up
the best podcast that I can.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
What did he say?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He said? Start where I am, Just be myself whoever
that is, keep it basic, and have a darn good time,
and maybe if I'm extra lucky and use my noodle,
I will find him the iHeart particle. I'm off to
see the Wizard at the large Hadron collider at CERNE,
the Center for Research Nuclear Geneva, Switzerland. Okay, y'ah, ein't
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fightryops wunderba ah. I haven't seen one of these in
a while.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Wow, that was weird.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Holy podcast vibrations.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
What's this?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Einstein's favorite limerick? A funny facts from Frank at the
black Hole back office. Okay, Einstein's favorite limerick. There once
was a lady called Wright who could travel much faster
than light. She departed one day in a relative way
and returned on the previous night.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
That there's a door to the space time continuum.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Of course there is. It's me, heady Lamar. Oh you
you heady Lamar.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I thought you were resting in peace.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I was.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I mean, I am in the space time continuum. All
the space time happens at once fully podcast vibrations. That's
a lot to unpack.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
How did you do it all?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Your film career, your inventions?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
It was different.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I guess maybe I.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Came from another planet. Who knows, huh?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But whatever, ky In whenchin's are easy for me to
do here gorgeous, I have to admit it's a little distracting.
The brains of the people are more interesting than the
looks I think. I concur people have the idea that
I'm thought of a stupid thing. That's not true. I
know what incredible things that you did. My podcast couldn't
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have been made without the frequency happing technology that you invented.
You're the mother of Wi Fi and GPS and Bluetooth.
Your contributions were instrumental in the invention of the Internet.
See what internet is that for fishing?
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
If he is a search engine, an engine that searches.
I like this idea. Could you help me with this podcast?
I mean, what should I tell people whose genius has
been ignored? Yeah, gives the world the best you've got
and you will be kicked in the teeth. Gives the
world the best you've got anyway, Do it anyway, because
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it's in the doing that you've changed the world that
you all find the meaning of life.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I better get hard for.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
The search engine.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Obviously, I may have a lot more to do.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
A vets in Darling love Donkashun Heady, I love you,
and I thank you who. That was an interesting quantum phenomenon.
I better get back to this reality show. Let's get
on with it. I got a lot of support I
got presidents, Seneca women, a funny facts from Frank at
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the black Hole, back office, science angels from the Space
time Continuum, my wonder.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Dog Higgs Boson.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Come on, good boy, grab your podcast gear. We're off Concern.
Let's you and I try to comprehend the universe. That's
a good boy. We got this on the road again,
the return Tocern. Remember keep looking up, stay positively charged.
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We are the stars. Goodbye for now. Adios a rivederci.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Biento.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's our show. Join us next week and we'll be
talking a more mind blowing guests. We've got artistic scientists
and scientific artists. You'll meet my brilliant mentor particle physicists
doctor Mark Cruz from CERN and Duke University, and two
incredible astrophysicists, doctor Chris lind Todt from Oxford and the
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BBC show The Sky at Night, an exoplanet genius doctor
Hannah Wakeford. They wrote a fantastic book called Bang, The
Complete History of the Universe, with legendary rock guitarist from Queen,
Sir Brian May, who's also an astrophysicist.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
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resulted from adhesive failure. The Oh My God Particle Show
is part of Seneca Women Podcast Network and is produced
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Welcome vinkommen yin venido y venu benvenutiaduti. Welcome one and all,
Thank you for joining me. I'm Galli Wild and this
is the Oh My God Particle Show where we talk
about science and art and music and good good good
vibrations and all matters near and far. So ready or not,
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unpack your imaginations and get ready to rumble through the
universe that we are so so lucky to live in.
We are the stars.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
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this podcast has increased exponentially since being published. If such
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm da Yail, the host of the Oh My God
Particle Show. I love to create as much as I can.
I love science and art and where they intersect, like
many beautiful languages describing the same thing. I wonder a
lot about the universe, like where did we all come from?
How did the Big Bang happen? How are we all connected?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Now?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
What the heck is my place in this giant soup
of infinite possibilities. For the last few years, i'd been
alone to my three x three closet with my beloved dog,
Higgs Boson, Hi Higgs. Oh my good boy. So I
started daydreaming a lot about going back to the Large
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Hadron Collider at CERNE. That's the Center for Research Nuclear
in Geneva, Switzerland.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
You see, I'd been there a few.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Years ago as a large Hadron Collider creative fellow. I
was mentored by this great particle physicist, doctor Mark Cruz
from CERN and Duke. I went a third of a
mile underground into the large Hadron collider. Luckily it was
turned off, for the particles in my serre bellum would
have been smashed to kibbles and bits. Doctor Mark and
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CERN supported me so generously as I wrote infinite drafts
of my particle physics play called the Oh My God
Particle Show. You see, the universe is kind of large,
so it's a big topic for one play. I was
determined to understand some particle physics and share it with
my audiences so I could show people that science is
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really cool. Lucky for me, doctor Mark's favorite expression is
there are no dumb questions in particle physics, because, trust me,
I asked him quite a few doozies. So I was
back at home in La La land, right the world
was shut down because of the pandemic, and I had
a screwball idea to apply for an iHeart podcast. I thought,
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why not base it on my Oh my God particles
show theatrical extravaganza. Well, you're not gonna believe what happened.
I actually won this freaking contest. Apparently everyone wants to
make a podcast, so it was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Can you believe?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
They call it the next Great Female Podcast Award from
iHeart and Seneca Women. No pressure here. But there was
a snag. I'd actually need to leave my closet, take
my dog, and get on a plane back to cern.
Where's my passport? Well, I'm freaking out of the way
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to the airport, right, So I decide I got nothing
to lose. I'll go right to the top and give
Will Pearson a call for a little pep talk. What
you don't know who? Will Pearson is president of the
iHeart Podcast Network. Come on, he oversees the whole enchilada
of iHeart podcast shows as Will Ferrell and his big
money player shondaland Arlamine, The God and The Black Effect.
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And that's just for starters. I heard podcast Network rings
up two hundred and fifty million or more downloads the month.
I mean, that's a ton. That makes iHeartRadio the number
one commercial podcast publisher globally. I know, right, But before iHeart,
Will was one of the hit Houn shows That's Stuff Media,
and he created Mental Flaws, a media company that he
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launched in his Duke University dorm room. Basically, this guy
does it all. It's not only a laid back genius,
but he's super nice too. Let's see what he has
to say. Hi, Will, it's all your wild.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Oh yeah, so good to hear from you. How are
you today?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'm kind of freaking out a little. You are so amazing,
like you taught us so much at the iHeart Seneca
Podcast Academy, But I need you to remind me what
are we doing? Why did you start this amazing program?
And what can I do to make sure my podcast
is in and sync with all those awesome ideas that
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you and iHeart and Seneca have that you want to
amplify women's voices, So could you tell me what to
do please?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Well, as I may have told you before, the good
news is you already have a fantastic podcast idea and
you were one of only ten people selected out of
the many hundreds of people that applied for this program.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
So you should feel very confident about that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But we are excited about trying to amplify women's voices
in podcasting. You know, we have a responsibility and there's
a lot of excitement to take on this responsibility of
trying to bring underrepresented voices into podcasting, and that can
take on, you know, we can handle that on any
number of fronts, whether that's you know, trying to find
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those that have had not had the opportunity to be
in podcasting, or in this case, recognizing that there needs
to be more.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Women's voices in podcasting.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And so we started this program with Seneca Way in
order to try to find the most interesting emerging voices
from women podcasters. And so we're excited to have this program,
loved that you applied for it, loved your idea for
the podcast, and are thrilled to see a company thank
you again.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And I thought that was really interesting when Sey to Garrett,
who was one of the other nine women. She actually said,
what do I have to say? And then all of
a sudden I started to think what do I have
to say? But I did realize something that I guess
because there's so much noise in the world and it's
a little bit kind of nerve racking with the criticism
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and haters. I know one shouldn't be deterred by that,
but I feel like I was always a leader, you know,
it was Truman scholar. I went to Oxford and Duke,
where you also went. Yay Duke, But I feel like
I became really quiet and like I wanted to just
hide in my cave. After being alone two years on
my own with my beloved dog. Ten people died, including
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my mother and I, And your program was so helpful
because I started really to think about I better find
something to say. I have something to say, and if
the somewhat decent people don't speak up, we're just gonna
have more of the same in the world.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So, when I was looking at your videos of you
in two thousand and seven at Google Talks, was it
and you invented a podcast right in a blog in
your dorm room at Duke. But you are so confident,
So what would you recommend for girls and women to
be confident about their voices.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's part of why why we're here is to recognize
that there are so many interesting voices.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And it was definitely no easy task trying to decide.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Which, you know, which of the entries to pick to
get behind in terms of making podcasts. And fact is
Kim Azarelli who's the founder of Seneca Women and a
very close partner of ours here at iHeart and creating
this program. As she has said before, the hardest part
about this and the most painful part about this, frankly,
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was having to narrow this to ten podcasts because we
know that there are hundreds and thousands and tens of
thousands and potentially hundreds of thousands of fantastic podcast ideas.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
From women out there, and we're just scratching the surface.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
But we're also just getting started and we're really excited
to see this program evolved. But we felt that it
was really important in selecting the ten women podcasters that
we were ready to get behind and help launch shows,
that group of those selecting them would also be a
you know, a committee of women helping make those selections,
led by Kim and some of our fantastic executive producers
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here but I know, and coming up with the qualifications
for it and deciding, you know, what would be our
guiding principles and selecting these podcasters.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
We wanted to find a range of ideas.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You know, it was not just that we were looking
for good podcasts, but we wanted to make sure that
we saw, you know, podcasts across so many different subject areas.
And part of what we were excited about in hearing
from you was your very real interest in the sciences,
and you know, we wanted to make sure that we
were inspiring people across the board from science to politics,
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to social justice to comedy to you name it. Wanting
to think about a breadth of subject areas and thinking
about the shows that came on board. But fortunately the
team really didn't have to focus too much on that
because it just sort.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Of fell in place.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Was we started evaluating all the different great ideas and
deciding which ones would be part of the program, It
just somehow naturally happened that there was a really wide
range of fascinating ideas and pitches and talent that came
in as part of the submission process.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Thank you for explaining that so well as you The
first time I saw you on the zoom, I was
just struck by what a great guy you are. And
it's really important to me that even this is a
women's Voices initiative, but to really honor the great men
that are supporting women, and then we can kind of
model that for other people, men and everyone else to
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support you know, their other halves.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that, And we obviously want
to get to a place where, you know, we want
to try to inspire confidence and creators. You mentioned, you know,
having seen that that Google talk, and and my experience
of presenting what we were doing the brand or the
magazine at the time was called mental floss. And you know,
I think the benefit for us was the stage in
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life where we were that we were too young to
have been told what the rules of the magazine industry
were or what we could and couldn't do, And so
part of it was honestly being a bit naive, just thinking, Okay,
we have an idea for a magazine, why why shouldn't
we try to go start it? And so I think
part of it in starting a program like this is
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to take both those who maybe again maybe they are
too young to realize what they you know.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Should or shouldn't be doing, and what the rules.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Of the podcast industry are, but then also to try
to give life two ideas from those who may have
been in the industry for a while or in some
field for a while, and maybe you know, have not
quite had the confidence or the realization that they two
are very much capable of starting a podcast. And so
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we were simply just trying to find the most interesting
creators we could and to do what we can to
put the resources behind those shows, and then hopefully over
time you have a generation and a community of women
who are also interested in starting podcasts and hearing from
brilliant creators like yourself and the other nine women who
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were selected to create podcasts as part of this program,
hearing those shows, and then thinking, you know what, I
can do this too.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I also have a great idea.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So part of it truly is not only educating, but
trying to inspire confidence in a community and a generation
of creators.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's such a huge gift and I'm so grateful and
I'm extremely interested in that concept of the voice too,
not only from when we go to CERN, you know,
talking about vibrations, and also where do all these podcasts
go our aliens listening to our sound vibrations. I need
to find that out. But I often like meet young
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women and I try to encourage them to use their
imagination to evaluate the universe instead of you know, there's
so much time that we our focus goes to other
things that might not be the most productive. Even though,
did you know that the Internet was actually started at CERN?
There were so many particles being smashed that there was
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so much information it was actually kept on one man's head.
His name was mister memory man, I'm not kidding. And
then but he couldn't remember anymore, so they put it
on a computer, then a lot of computers, and then
the computers need to just talk to each other, and
that's where the Internet started. And this is a message
to myself too, because I still, even though I'm trying
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hard to have more discipline, the internet is really wastes
a lot of our imagination. And so to give girls
courage and women anyone of any age to use that
imagination to evaluate the universe. And a lot of women's
scientists also say how they were told they were absolutely crazy,
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like when we all know about like Marie Curie, but
how they, you know, went on these journeys by themselves
and found these inventions and new formulas. So there's one guy,
John Rasmussen who's he's came discerned with me and he
said that it's and he advises a lot of world
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leaders and comedians and and me. And he said that
the feminine part of the brain is so important for
discovery just because of the way that women see things.
So it's from a different part of the brain. So
that'll be exciting to inspire hopefully, Yeah, somebody will be listening.
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And then how about so what is it about podcasts
that keep people coming back? And what makes a really
good podcast? And I heard that people since they're listening
in their cars and in bed, they feel like they
know the podcaster. But what can I do to really contribute,
Just be myself and be honest.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's funny that you you know, you mentioned people getting
to know or feeling like they get to know the podcasters.
It's always a funny experience for us when we're at
public events and fans meet podcasters. It's very different than
you know, at iHeart. We get a chance to see
this across a wide spectrum. So when fans meet their
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favorite musical artist, for example, there's this crazy excitement and
it's like they've met this celebrity that feels almost intangible
to them. But when they meet their favorite podcaster, the
number of times we've watched them just walk up and
just start a conversation like they've known them forever. There's
a different kind of relationship that's established between a podcaster
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and their audience. And we sometimes over use this word
intimacy when we talk about this sort of feeling of
listening to a podcast, but it's a really accurate word
because it's a very different experience. Most people are listening
to the podcast in their earbuds. They might be out
on a job, they might be cooking dinner. But it
feels like you're getting to sit in on a conversation
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between two super interesting people, or just hearing someone that
you find very interesting, you know, communicating a certain message
or some information. And so, you know, I feel this
myself when I tend to listen to podcasts when I'm
out on a jog or something like that, and you
finish it, and you do just feel like you've been
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part of a conversation or getting to listen in on
a conversation. And the best podcast as really do make
you feel like you know that podcast host. And I
know that this is going to come through with the
way you communicate as well, because you have this very authentic,
you know, communication style to you that people feel like
they get to know you very quickly. And so the
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important thing in producing a podcast is not losing that,
making sure that it doesn't feel overproduced, making sure that
it feels very real. And there's something about podcasts that
accomplished that that it's almost I don't want to use
the word amateur quality to it, but there is something
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that feels like, again, it's not overproduced, like you're just
hearing a great conversation, You're just hearing a great communicator
that I think is really really.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Important, and I think that's what's worked with podcasting.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I think in many ways, when you think about the
evolution of media, our CEO Bob Pittman here at iHeart
talks about, you know, people's eyes are or sort of
tapped out, like we're overstimulated.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Everywhere we look, there is something to see, there's a
new form.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Of entertainment, and so we're sort of done in terms
of new ways to find entertainment on the visual side,
and there was something about audio that sort of found
these gaps where we have these moments where we're getting
dressed for work, or we're cooking dinner, or we're out
on a run, or we're doing you know whatever, we're
in transit, and there was an opportunity there for people
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to find companionship in those moments.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And that companionship came through.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
You know, came by way of podcast, came by way
of you know, people communicating certain information. And so we've
seen that just really explode over the last five to
ten years, and the way that people were communicating or
the format has been interesting to watch it evolve as well.
There was a point where, you know, maybe seven or
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eight years ago, where people felt like the definition of
a podcast was always just two people sitting in a
microphone to host, you know, having that conversation, and that's
still a great way to communicate.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
We found there's other opportunities as well.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
We've experimented with a lot of short form podcast where
maybe it's a daily five to seven minute thing, or
maybe it's a comedy podcast where there's a whole you know,
troop of five or six people communicating, and it's been
really interesting to see that form develop. And I think
that's been part of why it's exploded is there was
there was a gap there where people were saying, you
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know what, I have room here in my life for
this short form thing early in the morning as I'm
getting ready for work, or this thirty minute thing as
I'm on the treadmill, or this thirty minute thing as
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
The car headed or in the train headed to work,
whatever it may be.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So I think it was, you know, an interesting space
that people you know, made available to.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You know, to fill with this kind of entertainment or information.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Thank you. You explain things so well.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
And you gave me actually a lot of courage and
confidence to actually start where I am. Like I was
pretty scared to actually get on a plane. I mean,
having been alone this whole time and also writing and
all these really solitary endeavors. It was fun for about
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the first two years, but this past January I was like, okay,
time to get out of my house. But you gave
me so much confidence because that is really for me Anyway,
when someone says this is where I am, I'm scared.
I don't know what I have to say, but I'm
going to try it. So maybe you can come along
with me on the journey, and maybe I can give
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you some permission to actually talk about what's important to
you and we can start having conversations about new things.
And that's what my Oh my God particle show play
is about dreaming a new reality into being. And hopefully
I really love that Samantha Wilson from the Black Effect podcast.
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He's been an amazing mentor. And I'm hoping because I
grew up in New York in a Spanish Harlem and
my dad was a doctor in Harlem and an engineer
diagnosed first case of AIDS, and Harlem worked on Adam Baum.
But I really hope that the Women's Initiative, I know
the issues are so serious right now, but that we
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can still be lighthearted and that we can not alienate men,
but also that all the different diverse voices that we
can be like a united nations of podcast voices or
just all of us. Hopefully this time is going to
pass where I guess everyone needed to strengthen their voice
and their identity, but it just feels awkward to me,
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and that's my hope that we can move forward to. Actually,
one of the big principles of my play is that
if we're all made of God particles, which are basically
called the Higgs boson, which is the building block of
the universe, if we're all made of the same stuff,
hopefully we could all get along eventually, you would hope.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
So, yeah, you might think just getting something out there.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I think one of the other things that we encourage
podcasters to do is is to not feel like you
have to have perfected the craft before you start a podcast.
I think it's really important to get something out in
the world, and I think listeners, if they like the
concept of a podcast, you know, listeners are excited to
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be part of the evolution of a show, and I
think that's really important. We'll sometimes see creators that just
keep delaying and delaying because they want to create the
perfect thing before they get it out there. I actually
think there's really something fun for the listening audience to
be a part of that journey that when you launch
a show, it's not going to be the perfect thing
that maybe you envision from the very beginning.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Any successful podcaster.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
If you were to ask, you know, one of our
biggest podcasts, stuff you should know the people behind it,
Josh and Chuck, or a show stuff you missed in
history class with Holly and Tracy.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
You know, four brilliant podcasters.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
If you were to ask them, you know what they
heard if they went back and listened to their first episode,
or their tenth episode, or even their fiftieth episode, they
would say with each one of those, you know, it's
kind of funny to listen how you know, how new
they were and how much they've grown over this period
of time and in some cases almost embarrassed by what
they heard the first time. But the important thing was
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that they got something out of the world, and they
allowed it to evolve.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And I think their listeners have, you know, get a
chance to grow with them.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm actually excited to see how my voice develops on
this journey back to CERN and how I start growing
and finding more confidence about what I have to say
and we can talk to you hopefully again.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I just can't think of anything more exciting than being
in a place like that to, like I said, try
to uncover what every thing is made of and how
it all works, and from the large hatdron collider to
every other part of what's happening there. It just I
don't think it gets any more interesting than that.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Maybe we'll discover a new particle or something. Thank you
for taking the time and putting me at ease and
telling me that I wasn't totally nuts. So I'm gonna
make this happen. I'm gonna make you proud.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Will.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I might have to call you back again.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I would love to hear from you, and I'm super
excited for your podcast and congrats on getting to this point.
I'm excited to see it evolve, and yeah, please do.
I look forward to hearing from you again.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Have a nice day you too, Take care.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I like this guy.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
What a super mench I hope they make a lot
more incredible human beings like him. I'm gonna cook up
the best podcast that I can.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
What did he say?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He said? Start where I am, Just be myself whoever
that is, keep it basic, and have a darn good time,
and maybe if I'm extra lucky and use my noodle,
I will find him the iHeart particle. I'm off to
see the Wizard at the large Hadron collider at CERNE,
the Center for Research Nuclear Geneva, Switzerland. Okay, y'ah, ein't
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fightryops wunderba ah. I haven't seen one of these in
a while.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Wow, that was weird.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Holy podcast vibrations.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
What's this?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Einstein's favorite limerick? A funny facts from Frank at the
black Hole back office. Okay, Einstein's favorite limerick. There once
was a lady called Wright who could travel much faster
than light. She departed one day in a relative way
and returned on the previous night.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
That there's a door to the space time continuum.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Of course there is. It's me, heady Lamar. Oh you
you heady Lamar.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I thought you were resting in peace.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I was.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I mean, I am in the space time continuum. All
the space time happens at once fully podcast vibrations. That's
a lot to unpack.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
How did you do it all?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Your film career, your inventions?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
It was different.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I guess maybe I.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Came from another planet. Who knows, huh?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But whatever, ky In whenchin's are easy for me to
do here gorgeous, I have to admit it's a little distracting.
The brains of the people are more interesting than the
looks I think. I concur people have the idea that
I'm thought of a stupid thing. That's not true. I
know what incredible things that you did. My podcast couldn't
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have been made without the frequency happing technology that you invented.
You're the mother of Wi Fi and GPS and Bluetooth.
Your contributions were instrumental in the invention of the Internet.
See what internet is that for fishing?
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
If he is a search engine, an engine that searches.
I like this idea. Could you help me with this podcast?
I mean, what should I tell people whose genius has
been ignored? Yeah, gives the world the best you've got
and you will be kicked in the teeth. Gives the
world the best you've got anyway, Do it anyway, because
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it's in the doing that you've changed the world that
you all find the meaning of life.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I better get hard for.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
The search engine.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Obviously, I may have a lot more to do.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
A vets in Darling love Donkashun Heady, I love you,
and I thank you who. That was an interesting quantum phenomenon.
I better get back to this reality show. Let's get
on with it. I got a lot of support I
got presidents, Seneca women, a funny facts from Frank at
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the black Hole, back office, science angels from the Space
time Continuum, my wonder.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Dog Higgs Boson.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Come on, good boy, grab your podcast gear. We're off Concern.
Let's you and I try to comprehend the universe. That's
a good boy. We got this on the road again,
the return Tocern. Remember keep looking up, stay positively charged.
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We are the stars. Goodbye for now. Adios a rivederci.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Biento.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's our show. Join us next week and we'll be
talking a more mind blowing guests. We've got artistic scientists
and scientific artists. You'll meet my brilliant mentor particle physicists
doctor Mark Cruz from CERN and Duke University, and two
incredible astrophysicists, doctor Chris lind Todt from Oxford and the
(28:23):
BBC show The Sky at Night, an exoplanet genius doctor
Hannah Wakeford. They wrote a fantastic book called Bang, The
Complete History of the Universe, with legendary rock guitarist from Queen,
Sir Brian May, who's also an astrophysicist.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Caution, a sub atomic adhesive holds the fundamental constituents of
this podcast together.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Since the exact nature of this clue is not yet
fully comprehended, its adhesive power cannot be guaranteed. To date,
no known malfunction of the podcast or ensuing injury has
resulted from adhesive failure. The Oh My God Particle Show
is part of Seneca Women Podcast Network and is produced
by Dahlia Wilde and iHeart Radio. Was sound designed by
Paul Mercy, a
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