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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is John, this is them Okay Storytime podcast hosts,
and we have some good story's coming up for you.
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sol of a two minute at break from the sponsors
keeping the show delicious. Hmmm, I found my wife spicy
photo with a male model.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Sounds like it's time to move on.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh goodness. Well, this is such a complicated issue, so
I will do my best to make it complete. But short,
my wife is great friends with one of our city's
high end wedding photographers named Gina sixties or so. She
is supremely talented and also a nice person. We've got
huge discounts on everything from wedding to baby family pictures.
(00:41):
By the way, this comes from Mike twelve and if
you want us to make your own stories, go to
the r slash Okay Storytime cebreddits. So, my wife recently
lost all her baby weight and became really fit by
following a low carb diet and doing a natural movement
workout plan.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
How natural is this?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
It is hunting and for a we find, we hunt,
we pick, we eat.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes, that's your dream diet right there. It really went wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Anything you can find outside and you can actually eat it.
Do you know how many squirrels I'd be eating? So
many squirrels are around here. No, Riley, you can't touch them.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
That's correct, go back home for that. Gina asked her
to come to do a boudoir shoot for her so
she could put my wife's pictures on her website as
an example of a fit and sexy mom. And by
the way, a boudoir shoot is kind of like a.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's like a saloon photo shoot.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You know, something you would do with your mom. I've
seen so many people do with their moms. They're like,
oh my gosh, me my mom, just do this.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Look.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I'm like, oh, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
We had many, many discussions, and I was all for
it right from the beginning because it's hot. My wife
was worried about employers, friends and family seeing them, but
eventually she figured she'd worked hard, there would be no
nudity and what back, why not. It's very important to
know that. We talked about this nightly for at least
a week and went over everything eventually, and I thought
(02:00):
everything was on the table.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Everyone's saying, no, you don't do it with your mom.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying I think it's a more
I don't think this is like a fun little cowboy shoe.
I think this is a more risque.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, what is that then, because I see they're like
the cowboy shoots and then the mom has like.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
That's so different, my guy, what is it gold? That's
a totally different thing. Well, that's what's maybe a saloon
photo or something. I don't know, like, yeah, I mean,
I don't know if the official name of it, but yeah,
I think this is a little more, a little more risque.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Don't do this with your mom. Don't watch the move.
Not the move, ladies and gentlemen. So the pictures are stunning.
Gina hired a spectacular makeup artist, and my wife looks
like a supermodel. I mean, they are spectacular pictures. Minimal
photoshop too. When the picks went up on the site,
Gina sent me a very classy hardbound book of the
pictures with a note, thank you for being so cool
(02:49):
with this. It's one of my favorite things have ever done.
That's a very sweet, thoughtful.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Touch, and I wish it would end here.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Oh no, Riley, the story is not even ten percent over. Literally,
so much left to go. He's gonna like open the
next page. It's gonna be like man doing whatever here.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I'll find you, guys an example to give you.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Guys, can you show everyone or just us? Okay, we're
about to get pictures of what this is. Everyone like,
we all don't have never seen anything like this before.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I've never heard of boudoir shoot in my life.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Oh okay, that's as safe as you can get.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm a little bothered looking at it exactly. This is
not a yeah, not to do it with your mom.
I'm sorry, Auntie PSA, please, No, he put it on there.
Everyone telling he put it on there.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay. So getting back to the story here. Important to
note on the timeline here. Picks were taken in May.
Picks went on the website in late June. I got
the book this week. My wife is out of town
with the baby to visit her mom and dad. Late Wednesday,
I got an email from Gina which basically said, happy
fourth of July. I wanted you to go through these
digital proofs to if there's any others you'd like. It
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was actually a link to a secure site where I
have a username and password. So I logged in and
all of the first series of pictures were variations on
ones I'd already seen, lingerie, implied nude, jim ware and
the like as we now know. Then it got into
a series of full nude pics, which I was like, awesome,
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why didn't these make it into my book? And when
I clicked on the next page, I can clearly see
that in the thumbnails there were two other people there.
I opened one, and it's my wife in a sort
of embrace that looked like the cover of a romance novel.
This guy looked like a model and was super ripped.
So basically it seems like I think they're both naked
and it's a you know, strong muscular man and she's like,
(04:44):
oh my goodness, hello, and he's like, what's up, baby girl?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I got you and is good enough to be in
front of a romance model novel? A romance novel.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's what the fabio like. We're dealing with a straight
fabio type situation over here, dude.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And she did not tell Hubby about this.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It was not a explicit it was like, hey, there's
gonna be shoot, it's it's boudoir. It's like, you know,
risque or whatever. Yeah, he got photos. He did not
get this photo hot take, cheating, cheating, cheating, I don't know.
I think this is just listen, I'll explain it more.
There's some there's some people that be doing some dances
and yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, the perception of this if I saw this, if
let's say, like you know whatever, I see this on
a romance novel, I'm like, oh, that's my friend and
that's not her boyfriend. That's crazy. That looks different because
like that just perceives as like she's not with a partner.
Also in the context like why did she not tell
this to hubby?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's I think the issue that were That's the big
ICU I think we're about to get into, is like, Hey,
there was all of this communication and all this stuff,
why was this photo A not like giving me the
heads up before the shoot?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah? And B why didn't I know about it after
hiding it? You know, it seems like the perception just
looks really off. Yeah, all of the evidence except the
one that you don't want. That's what it seems like.
But we're gonna see.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So with these I was like, okay, but with all
the discussions we had, why didn't she say there was
going to be a guy there. I'd say that the
series is fifty pictures long, with each one getting more
and more. Riscie, my wife ends up going from a
business like suit to just her panties. The guy has
his underwear on and all of them so it wasn't
both nude, just to just to be clear. He's laying
on top of her to look like he's kissing her neck.
(06:23):
His hands are definitely on her front airbags. Oh man,
he's holding her from behind with his hand just out
of shot, and it's implied that he's touching her crush.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, I would like stuff. I would like a pull
after hearing more, John, where are you?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean, this is definitely like you needed explicit, explicit,
explicit consent, and like, Yo, this is what's going to
happen before you go into it. This is like, this
is too far.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I feel like it's a form of cheating, not break
up cheating.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Oh I see what you're saying. You're saying I thought
at first I thought you were saying, like, oh, she's
like hooking up at this guy. Oh no, no, no, no no,
you're saying that this kind of thing is cheating.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, it's like a mistrust, like I am gonna have
a hard time trusting you now. Cheating is like here,
and then this is like here level of trust. What
if your girlfriend did this?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's I mean, I know, I like, like personally, when
I want my my girlfriend doing this, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
When she did do this and not tell you about it.
When you feel like it's cheating, I wouldn't call it.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I don't know if cheating is the right word of
the word I would use here. But it is like
think about actors. Actors literally like hook up. Well, yeah,
but that's like, hey, babe, I just got this movie.
There's the icy sleep seeing that's the see that's and
I think that's the difference where it's like at least
it's like well and like the actors obviously fully know,
(07:43):
and I'm sure it's a conversation and like if you
marry an actor, it's like you kind of know. Honestly,
I've always been like, dude, how do actors and actors
partners do that? Like it's I I don't know how
they could do that.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
The best example of that was Fifty Shades, Like the
main actor his wife hated it, she like legit hated it. Yeah,
Like I saw like a thing. She's like, okay, maybe
I'll like we talked about it. I was okay with it,
and then she saw the first film and she's like,
well that was a lot, and I didn't like, yeah, yeah,
one hundred percent. We also have a pull up cheating
or naw that Kean just put up. Yeah, I don't know,
(08:16):
ke On, what do you?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
What do you think? What's your vote? I know if Carly.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Asked me and told me like all like, hey, this,
this is this is gonna happen, I will have to
do a shoot with this person. I would have to
meet the person first, Like I would meet this guy, like,
what's his notion? If it's just professional work? Still if
he yes, I'm still very iffy. If she did behind
my back, I'm I'm upset.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, yeah, I'm upset. And I think I would be like, hey,
I'm not comfortable with this. You know what do you think?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I got some people on my side. All right, we're
we're gonna get back into the store.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
We might get more details too, So okay, that might
that might grow your cheating your cheating up. But guys,
if your vote is cheat, comment below, why yes, let
us know Riley is trying to rally his troop. Okay, so,
by far the worst is the very last picture, where
it's just a picture of her butt with his face
and the top of her thong in his teeth, sort
(09:11):
of pulling it away from her body. I looked at
the pictures absolutely stunned for thirty minutes. That's lot, dude.
I emailed Gina the photographer, saying, basically, Gina, what is this?
This is way more than I thought it was going
to be. She has not replied, and I tried to
log back in and my password has been changed. Okay,
now it seems like a cover up. Gina won't send
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me another one. So I tried to call my wife,
but she hasn't answered and says she's too busy to talk.
I texted I had questions and about what went on
on the photo shoot, and she replied at first sexiness
you like, are you liking at sexy? I don't think
he likes it.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
H yeah, hot take, don't think he likes it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I don't think he likes it. Now she's not responding
at all. So my guess is Gina told her about
the slip up and she doesn't know what to tell me.
So she's not kidding me getting either, She's pro come on,
it's China. It seems like a you know, a coerce
attempt to you know so bad. Yeah, I'm lost, like
literally lost. My wife has so many chances to tell
(10:12):
me that that that was a plan. If it was
that all along, I don't even think I would have
said an outright no, but just asked for some boundaries
like don't have the guy's lips near your butt or
second base. If my wife didn't know and Gina sprung
this on her, why didn't she say no or even
enforce her own boundaries? It looks like she was having
a great time in the picks. If these are the
ones Gina accidentally sent me, are there more do they get?
(10:35):
Like literal hardcore? My wife is probably panicking as well
right now, as I assume Gina is neither will speak
with me. Wife comes home Sunday morning. How do I
even begin to have this conversation with her? What do
I say when I see her and we have an update?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So what's the poll right now? Riley really wants to
break it. So the poll right now is thirty one percent?
Sheeting sixty nine percent. Noah for Riley. We will do
another pole. We will do another pole. I will say Denise, Denise,
and the chat says it's soft corn. This absolutely is
soft corn. Yeah, I would say this is soft corn.
So the same pool, Riley.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah. Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Let's see if Riley can get it this hour. Guys,
this is let's go. It's like we're running for offices
team now your team, you're team cheating. This is you're
still not I think like lips, but it could be.
Here's what it is. Squares and rectangles. Okay, a what
is it? A square is always a rectangle, A rector
dingle is not always a square?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Sorry. Squares and yeah, squares and rectangles. I thought you
said circles for a second. Oh my god, yes, yes,
you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I mean, like, is this something I would want my
my girlfriend doing? Absolutely not? Is this soft corn? Absolutely yes?
Did she break his trust and now she's hiding it
and is it bad? Absolutely yes? And right now Riley
has officially won the most winning cheating for president. Cheating
is won by sixty two percent at least as of
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's just messed up. It's like hiding it and then
not want to talk about it. It just it's a
form of cheating. It's not like a form of cheating
where you can't come back from this, but a lot
of trust is going to have to be reworked. Yeah,
in order to be okay.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, I think like and chat might flame me for this,
but think about like I think about like an emotional
affair where there's no spiciness involved, but where they've basically
checked out on your relationship, They've fully emotionally invested in
the other person and they like want to get with them. Like,
I don't know if i'd say that's worse. I don't
know if it's productive to compare them, but like that,
I would definitely consider like emotional cheating right where it's
(12:34):
like I don't know, honestly, I'm definitely more torn. You
might win me by the end of this By the
end of this episode, have you been swayed one way
or the other?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I'm still indifferent. I still need to see what's going on.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
If you would like give the thumbs up to do it.
But if like, if you're in Opie's position now, like
seeing after the fact, does this do you think this
falls in the cheating category? Or is it more one
of the like lying to try.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm still like I gotta I feel like it's not
the cheating, Like I'm still not on board with cheating
just yet because it's tasteful. Like that is again like
that's the line of work that you sign up for.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, there are horn stars, yeah that are married that
do that. Yeah, but they've had a conversation, yeah, a
set exactly. The The whole big red flag here is like,
not only did they not tell them, but now it
seems they're intentionally didn't tell them and are totally trying
to cover it up.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
MJ. Grove not cheating, but keeping secrets like that is
definitely not okay, A little bit down, Sorry, I'm going down,
okay right here. Red bull Rana says, why the deliberate
hit this because she knew her husband would not be
okay with this? Also go down a little bit more. Yeah,
and someone else said snorty and Catnip says, remember they
spent a week every night talking about it and she
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did not bring it up once.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I mean again, she's in the wrong here, Like there's
in my opinion, there's like no questionable doubt that she
is absolutely in the wrong with what she did.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Again, it could be the potential that maybe the photographer
brought the model in, like we don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But yeah, that she sprung an honor and the wife again,
like Opie said, she should have like spoken up and
said like hey, I'm not comfortable with this, but also
like her like springing the model on, and like I
don't know, maybe maybe the model did that and he didn't,
you know, ask, I don't know, but either way, like,
the one thing I think we can all for sure
agree upon is a wife is absolutely in the wrong
here and is like trying to cover it up. It's
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a breach of trust. All of that jazz. This is
an interesting discussion. This is a really good, u really good,
really good topic.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I'm interested to hear her justification.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I want to hear what she says first, until I
put my eggs in one specific basket.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Well, we've got enough go So I've been getting tons
of different advice on the last post, so I guess
I will make this one as well and may get
ripped apart. Anyways, So I've been sweating this since I
first saw the pictures I wasn't supposed to see on Wednesday,
almost zero contact with my wife. We're not sure how
far out, but I'm guessing at least a day maybe,
which is crazy. Part of this was she was busy.
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Part of it was because they were at a lake,
and part of it, she admits now, was because she
was avoiding the conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Wait, who's they good question?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I don't know. She was busy at a lake with
who that's the question. Hopefully we get that answered to.
So wife decided to come home early, so three hours
or so ago now, I got a call from her saying,
I'm on the way home. We have a lot of
talking to do. Can you please get us Jimmy John's
because I'm not stopping to eat and I'm already starving.
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I was like, seriously, what the f but avoided the
temptation to get into it with her on the phone,
which I'm glad I did that. I got her sandwich.
She got home an hour later, and we put our
son to bed and then got into it as best
as I can. This is her side of the story.
We're getting the other side of the coin here playing
back the episode with the other character. So Gina again,
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the photographer had mentioned that if my wife was interested
she would love to see how the shoot with another
friend of hers who was a guy went. Wife her
name is Nicki, said that she was not at all
interested because she was nervous enough about the boudoir and
fitness gear. She arrived, had a glass of white wine, relaxed,
did the makeup. She had a great time during the shoot.
(16:18):
My wife, Nicki is the one who suggested that she
would like to do the full nude stuff. Let me
let me just triple check. Yeah, wife, okay, yeah, yep.
So they did that. It went really well, and the
conversation came up that maybe she'd like to try shooting
with the male model. Nicki swears to me that he
was not present, but Gina was able to call him
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and he was able to be there in an hour.
Nicki says it was a huge mistake not to call me,
but she said she was so in the moment that
she didn't consider all the ramifications.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, there was an alcohol involve.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean, I think to like, I mean, for short,
the biggest failures on the wife's part, because it's like
it's your relationship to your responsibility to like think of
and communicate these things. Failure on Gina's part because I'm like, dude,
why are you? It was already this, Like Gina knows
the communication that went into it, Like you think he
would just like automatically opt in without checking in with
him at all about it, Like had.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Bro on call too. She was like, I'm not interested
in that. Yeah, I had him on call, ready to go.
Who's there within the hour?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, with in the hour. That's hm hmm, yeah, that's
like this this is fishy. So the dude shows up,
he's twenty two six', three amazing, build blah blah, blah nice.
Size but my Wife nicki says he was an absolute,
professional so much so that all the fun she was
having with the solo stuff went out the window because
the guy was literally like just a living. Mannequin when
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she was shooting, solo there was, dancing laughing, jokes but
with the, guy it was just like put your hand,
here hold. REPEAT i, SAID i saw one of the
pictures and it didn't look like that at. All she
said that there were probably also a few hundred of
her looking absolutely terrified and ashamed that didn't make it
to the. Proofs at this, POINT i demanded to see
all of the Pictures nikki logged into the secure site
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and there they, were ten or so more past the original. Fifty,
basically it was like a sequence from the guy pulling
the underwear off with his, teeth to her turning, over
spreading her legs oh, no and ending this shoot with
both of them on the side looking like he was
taking her in the missionary.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Physician, yay that's what you wanted to. See why are
we asking for more? Photos?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah this is, oh this is so because like we've
had all these like cheating. Stories, right here's the, Question,
right we've had all these cheating, stories right is it
better the cheating stories where they just hear about it
or this guy who's like they're not literally hooking up
but it fully looks fully looks like. It oh, man
the perception so. Bad the, visuals the visuals. Crazy uh,
(19:01):
well there was a third. Party it was a professional.
Shoot i'd rather them do this than SHE i. DID i,
know it's so. Hard and the other thing, too is, like,
okay you know, what like even AND i don't think
we should give her a pass for like when she
called the, guy but, like, okay let's say you get
up to the point where the guy is there and
then you you, know you go from like maybe both
standing like you, know kind of like you, know bad
(19:23):
boys style, whatever to starting to get into the you,
know more risky. Stuff do you not stop at? That
do you not stop when he has your underwear and his? Teeth,
yeah and he's like bending you over into missionary like
is there any? Poe?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Like, hey can we, like CAN i? Pause i'm good,
Here i'm not. Comfortable if this was, filmed this would
be the intro of a. Corno, yeah, yeah. DUDE i
asked her to promise me there weren't more and it
didn't go any further than, That so she said it
didn't that the GUY i never even took off his.
UNDERWEAR i asked if it turned her. On she, said
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in a physical sense of feeling skin on sinks it
did turn her, On but on an emotional, level she
was terrified of WHAT i would think and it was
so business, like there was nothing organic happening at.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
ALL i told her this was all so. Fishy because
the shoot happened In, May she's had almost six weeks
to tell me maybe. More she says that she just
couldn't find the, words but was really working on. It, oh.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's a hard one to.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Trust, yeah THAT'S i think she might have taken this.
One do the. Grave Her ingina were locked in on
the secret to the too six feet? Deep oh, man
almost as deep as the model. Went, Okay so now
the thing that's sort of gross is that our spicy
sleep life has been, amazing AND i think that the
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correlation is about when the photo shoot.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Happened, oh she saw something she. Likes.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Uh, oh she's gonna use that in her. Mind oh,
God oh that's not. Good, wow thanks. KEONK i sees
it LIKE i had attributed it more towards our son
finally sleeping more than three hours at a. Time but
Now i'm not. Sure part of me thinks that she
was seriously turned on by the whole thing and took
(21:09):
that out quote unquote on. ME i told HER i
wanted her to swear to me that she doesn't know
this guy from anything, prior hasn't kept in touch with him,
since and has no plans to in the. Future and
so she said the guy actually brought up his girlfriend
with him to the, shoot and she was a gorgeous
volleyball player for the local. University and she's pretty sure
that he's not trading a six to one voluptuous volleyball
(21:30):
player for a thirty year old mother with a thirteenth
month old. Baby, okay what are looking for trades? Here
this is that's not the?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Focus, like, yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Not now back to the. STORY i asked if the
girlfriend actually watched the. Shoot my Wife nikki said the
girl was in the, room but sat and scrolled on
her phone and seemed bored by the whole. THING i
asked who else was in the. Room she said it
was Just gina and her assistant who held the lights and.
Such after some surfing Around gina's main sight and finding
other things the guy had done for, her we were
able to find his In facebook. Page to this, Guy,
(22:02):
dude this guy is torturing. Himself he's a college student
and certainly does appear to be dating a very attractive
college volleyball. PLAYER i asked What gina was going to
do with those, pictures because to, me it was crazy
That nikki was initially hesitant to even do the boudoir
shoots because of people seeing her to taking what essentially
appears to be softcore in less than a, week that
(22:23):
WHICH i would also totally agree with, That like she
was even iffy about doing the spicy photo shoot to begin.
With then you bring in, this you, know almost nude
ripped six' three male model and his underwear is in.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
His, Teeth gina, come on what are we? Doing here?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Come on trying to?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Get, more also what is This benefiting? Gina for what
is she doing with?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
This concert or SHE can i don't know. SELL it
i don't. KNOW photographers i do not feel Good about.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
GINA whatsoever i would know her intention, of it because
wouldn't you just want to get those photos and then.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Be done, she's, Like well i'm sure she's doing it
for some some sort of purpose other than just sending It. To,
ope YEAH because i thought that was what she was,
gonna do and she sent over. The book but that
was just like a like, a trinket you KNOW what.
I mean it wasn't like. THE purpose i don't think
it was the purpose. Of it because the other guy
is a. PROFESSIONAL model i think these are gonna be
sold their.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Use somewhere does everyone know about that, part TOO because,
I mean i don't want pictures of my wife being.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Sold everywhere, that's yeah one, hundred percent that's that is
not many people would agree, with that, so well we're
gonna get a genus out of the. Story here so
she Said that gena the photographer had no plans for
the pictures, at all that they weren't going to be. Posted,
anywhere okay so actually these spicy photos are not going to.
Be posted they were done justice test Shoots since gina
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is getting backed into badoir and couples photo shoots and
the male model oder, a favor so it was a
great time. TO practice, i asked why not ask me to?
Do it she said she didn't have a good answer.
For that that kind of, makes, IT like i don't
know if that's better or makes it even worse because
it was. So unnecessary it's like you're, just practicing just
practice when you do, the shoot like you don't you
don't get to like do that. To, people yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Exactly implic if you're, doing couples you probably not all
the guys are gonna look like a six y three.
Muscular guys just.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Just do the couples do give someone, a discount and
it's the, first one and then do the n new
more cosy And then jamie.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
The photographer a, Professional, here yes offer doing boudoirs for
both males, and FEMALES but i couldn't include the opposite
sex and shot unless it was with the person's.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Significant other we Have from jamie the, photography chick that
is like verified photographer advice who has done boudoir shoots. As,
well boom you heard it, here, First FOLKS so, I,
Asked obviously ginatt already made one huge mistake sending them
to me or uploading them in my private. Proof page
how do we know she's not going to make another
huge mistake and send it to the wrong person and
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or forget that these were just practice and sell them to.
Someone else get. Good questions My wife nikki said that
we are just going to have to. Trust her, oh
uh there's not too much. TRUST there i don't know about.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
That.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
ONE yeah i TOLD her i was having a really
hard time trusting anyone at, that MOMENT and i would
need more. Than that nicki said that we could Talk
to gina at the first Opportunity. ON monday, i said
would she be willing to pay a lawyer to drop
a contract To keep gina to? Her word she said.
She would then we got into why? The secrecy she
said that she felt so guilty after the whole thing
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that she had no idea how to, tell me and
she knew she was going to see her family, this
week so she had hoped to put off. The SUBJECT
that's i think where she was at the lake house
with the they they was mom. And, dad, Okay. GOOD
yeah i asked her how she found OUT that. I
knew she Said that gina had called Her late wednesday
confessing that she had really screwed up MY wife nicki
claims at this point she went into full panic mode
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and pretty much was either crying or claiming up around
everyone because she felt. SO ashamed i told her how
much the silence almost, destroyed me and she started crying
and said she was so sorry for the, whole thing
and she knew she screwed up and basically begged me
not to, leave her and that she still had more
love for me than she had, for anyone which leads
me to the, next poll divorce? Or not divorce?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Or not she said she.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
WAS sorry i don't think this is a divorce. TERRITORY
yet i definitely think, it's, like hey we need to
rebuild the, trust here because not only was the, trust broken,
but like, for instance, she's, like oh we'll have To.
Trust gina it's, like, no, no, no, No no like we
need to like figure. This out we need to do
some work here to actually get a solution. In PLACE
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and i, was, like well we, tried nothing so that's
all we. Can.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Do now i've been pulling Up to. Gina's, house, HEY
uh i want to see those pictures and then get. M.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Deleted, right, Yeah so. OPIE says i TOLD her i
believe that she, loved me believed that she was acknowledging,
her mistake BUT that i felt like uber disrespected and
emasculated by the. Whole thing she said she could appreciate
that and would do whatever she could to make it up.
TO me i, TOLD her i just wasn't sure what that.
Meant yet she started crying and again begged me not
to make any rash decisions about. LEAVING her, i said
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if she promised she would telling, the truth and it
seems like she. Is that i'm not, leaving Her but
i'm not sure what normal will look like for. Us
now she said she'd be willing to do whatever it
takes or wait however long for me to figure. It
out so here's where. We're at our son woke up
since sleep schedule was messed out from, the drive so
she's tending, to Him and i'm. WRITING this i guess
aside from the lie of a mission about the, whole
thing she's never been dishonest, With ME so i believe
(27:21):
her about all of. THE details, i mean they seem
so crazy as to, be true and that a lie
would be more, like normal if that makes. ANY sense
i THINK basically opi saying like she Admitted, TO hey
I felt i was turned on on skin, on skin
but like, not emotionally and like like.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Makes sense all.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Of it It's it's he's like it's almost like she's
incriminating herself now to a point where like it feels
like the truth versus like what a lie.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Would, Be yeah i'd want to look at those other
photos to make sure she is, looking ashamed because.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
She did he did look at all the other photos.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And she did.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
LOOK terrified, I mean opie didn't, confirm that but that
was that was when the missionary position came Up, at yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Because if she's she's, stayed silent she hasn't necessarily kind.
Of lied she lying more to get herself out of the,
Hole too that's.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
The THING and i Mean like op's, basically, like hey
with all of the context of, OUR relationship i think
she's telling, the TRUTH but i think But, all op
he's also SAYING like i don't know what normal, looks like,
and like how we're going to rebuild this trust because
RIGHT now i don't think the trust.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Is.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
There, yeah no definitely couple's therapy, For.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yes and, even honestly the Comment about gina too is
like a red flag where, it's like are you not
like that's part of this, Whole thing like we want to.
MAKE sure i want to make Sure, That gina like
we can't just sit here and. Do nothing we Can't
let gina. Do whatever, BUT anyway. I digress i still
feel gross about the. Whole thing another guy's touched my
wife's front, air bags my wife has let another man's
breath on, her neck and another guy's laid on top
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of her and several. Different positions if you catch. My
drift we can never be a married couple that can
say we haven't been intimate with. OTHER people, I mean
i get the professionalism, of it but it all. STILL
happened i have to learn to live. WITH that i.
Don't know that's. THE update i don't know if there's
more to say. Or not maybe there will. BE more i.
Don't know i'm trying very hard to sort through my
(29:07):
feelings and not having much luck. At it it's about,
six am totally, sleepless night so based, on comments as
soon as my wife, IS up i am going to
one asked to see her phone to Tell her i'm
contacting the girlfriend as she seems to be the most
neutral party who can verify. Some details three Independently contact
gina and ask to see every photo that was taking. That,
day okay so maybe there are still some photos that.
(29:29):
Hasn't seen. Got it those are by far the most.
COMMON responses i will update when they, are done and
we have a thinking update.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Coming, UP yeah i think this is. An update, Another, Update,
sam here we're gonna get back to. The stories but
here's three of it's bads from.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Our, sponsor yeah We've got we've got another edit with
a lot more, potentially juicy. Spicy, details keon are you
staying together?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Or? Not yeah I'M like, i said she, Didn't cheat
like there wasn't like this. Wasn't cheating but this was,
a dea, a BIG huge i, would say just breaking
up the trust in, our relation.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Total, breaking yeah breaking of, THE trust i feel like
is a good way to, phrase it because, it's, like.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
YEAH and i get it that she, was distraught but
you still. Did it you could have said no any
time or during the. Photo shoot you could have BEEN
like i don't feel comfortable with this something. Like THAT
and i know you said some photos you WERE am
i divorcing OR am i breaking up with?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
My partner at? This, point no it's just how do
we go? From, HERE yeah i definitely think like couple,
couples counseling because again too, FOR me i think the
Response about gina, is, like oh she's not like getting
it too like she. MIGHT do i think she is truly,
feels REGRETFUL honestly i do from everything. She Said but
i'm also like part of, it too like obviously like
(30:44):
truly feeling regret that's obviously a very. Important part but
another important part is like like in building back the
trust and all this stuff is, like Hey like, opie's,
like hey it's important to me To contact gina to
make sure she doesn't do anything else with the Photos and, she's,
like well there's nothing we. Can do, YOU know i.
Don't know smells like. A fish oh what it's. FISHY
ah i thought this is gonna be like. Your shirt
(31:07):
oh the lesson. That, shirt yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Great shirt oh but ladies.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
And gentlemen we've got this edit. Number two let's get.
Into IT so i heard my wife crying in the
next room on. THE phone i sort, of eavesdropped and
obviously It. Was, Gina. OOH nicole I. Think nikki the
wife was telling her that she needed to come over
and send all the pictures from the, whole shoot and
divorce was on the line and she had to. Do
this gina is on her way out of town to
shoot a, wedding today but we are rushing over so
(31:33):
she can open the studio before, she leaves so we
can go through all. THE pictures i told my WIFE
that i wanted to look at her phone on the.
Way over she said that. Was fine she's packing up.
Our son we are taking our one year old son
to a studio where my wife was felt up in
order to prove she didn't cheat. On me this has
been the most f week in.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
My life, come, on buddy we're gonna go to a
special studio to make sure your mom didn't do anything
special with. Another person and that's.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Where the model also squeezed her front. Air bag see
that's one thing you guys have. In common you're. Both
fans gotta. Love it, wow graphic.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Pretty.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
GRAPHIC there i can update, later Afterwards but. I'm worried
this is exhausting everyone else as it is. To me
so here's where we're. AT now i looked at my
wife so on all the way Over to. GINA'S studio
i Love how opie's like like a reporter like you
in real. Time, updates Basically, on wednesday at six point,
thirty pm there were seven miss Calls from gina from my.
Wife's phone gina also started a text conversation with her
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about that time, that said please, call me we really need.
TO talk i crossed that with my Email, to gina
which said this was way MORE than i thought it
was going, to be which was sent around six fifteen that.
Same day if, you remember in those, FIFTEEN minutes i
had tried to call My. Wife nicki she told me
that she was too busy. TO talk i texted HER
that i wanted to know what happened in the. Photo
shoot apparently in those Fifteen minutes open needs to start
(32:51):
a true crime podcast. Or something this. Is crazy in those,
Fifteen minutes nicky STILL thought i, didn't know because she
texted back sexiness, you like are you liking a?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Sexy you you WANT me i do?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
For, you hey these front airbags are still. Fully inflated
so Clearly when gina's text started, rolling in she KNEW that.
I knew so their text conversation basically, WENT like i really.
Screwed up not you, loell no this. Is serious please
call can't now? WHAT'S wrong i accidentally put those Picks
with craig Up on thomas's. Preview site what. PLEASE listen
(33:24):
i need to know what you want me. TO do i.
Don't understand tommy just emailed me about the photo shoot
not being what he thought. It was how would he?
Know that the, wife says you haven't told. Him, yet
no not planning on it for. A, while okay so
six weeks out and we're still not planning on it for.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
A while we did another six weeks, the bank probably at. The,
Anniversary hey i'm gonna, you, something yeah. Real quick i've
been a little bit. More, Spicier, RIGHT well i found
some inspiration.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Birth of baby. Number two this is where this baby.
Came from, got, Him so, opie said not planning out for,
A while, gina, said crap THAT'S what. I thought, Nicky
Says i'm i'm still lost than in, All caps, gina
replies he's seen the picks of You. And craig please, follow,
me dude this might, be HARSH but nicki doesn't sound
(34:11):
like the brightest bulb in. The back, she's like let
me spell it out. For you? What how i'm. SO
sorry i was rushing to get proofs OUT and i
accidentally uploaded most of them to his. Preview site? WHAT'S
most i mean almost all? Of them oh, My, God
gina oh. My god what do you want me to?
Do now i'm out. OF town i can't Leave. Until? Saturday,
(34:31):
saturday no WHAT do? I do i. Don't know he's
going to effing. FLIP out i can change the passwords
so we can't get. Back in what if he? Copies
them can't their? Copy protected, opie says please? Do THAT
while I think i'm, So, sorry nicole this is a.
Huge accident do you want me to talk? To him, nicky,
says no this better come, for Me but i'm going to.
THROW up i don't know what. To do i'm, So sorry,
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gina says and that was pretty much the only communication,
between them no other calls. Or anything gena texteditor the very,
next day saying are you okay to? Type Stuff but nicki.
NEVER responded nicki did text her that she Was leaving,
saturday morning but. Nothing else so then we get to,
the studio but the ground zero where it. All happened
gina was rushing around like crazy because she was driving
(35:13):
two hours away to do. A wedding i asked her
to please talk to me about what she. Was thinking
so she took like five minutes and said that she
was so sorry and that the thoughts just got away,
from Her and nicky was doing such an. Amazing job
it seemed like a. Great idea at, THE time i
was at a loss, for WORDS so i just didn't
ask any. More questions gina set us up on her
main computer and opened the file folder of every single
One of nicky's pictures from, that day including the ones
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not included in. THE proofs i think it was exactly,
one thousand two hundred and thirteen.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Pictures from the. Whole shoot from the.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Whole, shoot, okay wow.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
That's usually HOW much.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I mean but just that's, one thousand two hundred and
thirteen moments of pain.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Of.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Them, yeah yeah it's probably like around three thousand or
three hundred.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Three, hundred yeah but still you're skimming.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Through, THEM yeah i know.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
The first nine hundred those. Are fabulous and then comes
with her.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Male. Models. YEAH oh i scrolled through every image and
got to the. COUPLE shots i could very clearly tell
that the mood had changed in the throwaway pictures from
the solo to the couple and all the, Solo shoots
nikki was smiling and laughing and having a good time
even if the pick didn't. Turn out but in the,
COUPLE shoots i could clearly see she. Was nervous she wasn't.
Having fun she had that, same timid almost Annoyed face
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i've seen on her a. Million times. I'd say in the,
couple section it took ten pictures to come up with
the one that looked, halfway decent where her face didn't
look like it was, being interrogated and it got worse
as she was more and. More undressed you can clearly
see that she had a look of genuine disgust when
the guy touches her, front airbags and it takes a
long time for her to make these.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Shots, work Dude If i'm gina in, THIS scenario a
doesn't look like it's, gonna, Fit right we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Call it, i'm SORRY but i feel like as part
of you being the photographer, Is, like okay we need
to make sure that like everyone's, comfortable here, because like
at the end of, the day this is. Your shoot you're,
doing this, and, like yeah it's just the requirement of
doing what, you do, exactly know and look if she
had some you know again single, you know two, single people,
(37:19):
their models they're. Having fun, they're like, oh great do that.
With them don't do that in. This scenario don't push this. On,
someone yeah this is not need. To happen there was
also a little INTERLUDE where I guess nicki went into
the dressing room to, compose Herself so gina took some
similar shots but with her. Clothes on he was still
in his underwear with the guy and, his girlfriend and
(37:40):
it's very obvious that they both have experience doing this sort.
Of thing you can See that nicky is coming out
of the. Dressing room gina took the pictures of, her
alone trying to get that spark back from the, solo
stuff and in those pics you can see the girlfriend
in the background looking boredous crap on. Her phone after,
The break nicki seemed to be a little, more relaxed
and that's where they got into him lying down on,
her back which goes into the teeth thing and into
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the very suggestive stuff where it appears he's initiating. Spicy
sleep it takes an abrupt end and there's a dozen
shots of everyone who is presenting doing things like flipping the,
camera off sticking their, tongues out and that sort. Of
thing the weirdest one Is of nikki in a bathrobe
and the girlfriend both hugging on the model with smiles on.
Their faces she says she asks for that one because
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it seemed like a cute shoot for everyone to say
we're all cool with. EACH other i was very careful
to check the sequencing of. The pictures gina has them
all nunerically titled with date and a code for customer
and location than a, series number, so basically if they're all,
in order he can see, it like.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Got it it's like, zuzer one zeros ARE two zerso
Four or. Zeruser.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Three, Yeah yeah and there wasn't a sickle. Picture missing
and it would have been an epic Undertaking for gina
to rename a thousand pictures to eliminate ones that were
worse than THE ones i. Already SAW so i am
ninety nine percent Convinced that i've. Seen everything you'd.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Be surprised with what people can DO with.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Ai, now Oh, oh god spread, them apart add three inches. Of,
space uh what?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Is it computer increased jiggliness by forty? Five Percent, oh.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
God not the. Jigle physics turn down the. Jego physics,
so now more, Than ever i'm convinced that my wife
is telling me the truth about all. That happened we
took the full road to get the, full picture and
seems like. WE'RE there i don't think she was cheating
or having. Spicy sleep lots of people will consider what's.
Happened cheating some of them are in this. Very studio,
me me this is a form. OF cheating i think it.
(39:33):
Was professional it was a spur of the moment Thing
when nikki said she would like to try to do the.
Couple stuff the girlfriend was, definitely THERE so i see
no reason to drag her. Into this by, THE way
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(39:53):
Listen to, right now do, your dishes walk, your, dog
go do it. Right. Now guys it's we got more stuff.
Like this, but guys we are almost at the finale of.
THE saga, i mean what a what a journey that
we've taken my Brothers in christ.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Is it cheating or not divorce Or na, Gina's fault
nikki's fall all over.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
THE place i would love to get you're both of your,
closing thoughts maybe starting, With, you riley what's your what's your? Closing?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Thoughts here i'm trying to think the husband overreacted or
not in any, SCENARIO here i don't think that. HE
did i just hope going forward they can put this
behind him and he doesn't like weaponize this or keep
bringing up because some of. THE thoughts i know he's
speaking from, his heart but it's sort of like there
is a bit. Of insecurity but your wife was basically
nudy nude with another nudy. Nude, man yeah so that's
(40:36):
my only concern. Going, forward yeah doesn't cost future, problems
again then just, dig it dig a grave and leave it.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
There.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Together yeah so.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
That's a good, call out like you don't want to
and maybe. It does maybe he can never get out
of his head and it's just kind of one of
those things where they can't. Move, forward keon what are
your what are your closing?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Thoughts HERE like i Said what i've kind of just
kind of standing on the Same thing i've. Said earlier
the trust here. Is broken you need to see how
we can fix this. Moving forward the husband in, this
case op did go to extremes of like let's figure
this out step, by step second, by second and like
see if your story, you know is, you know one hundred.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Percent, correct yeah and we have. The proof we have it.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
All there, we saw we saw the Proof that OPI's wife.
Was uncomfortable this Is, On gina like if she did
clearly didn't see that in.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
The, photos yes you're.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
A photographer if your model is, not comfortable why are
you continuing this?
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Photo shoot it's your job this is.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Your job to make sure your models are one comfortable
and okay with what's being shot.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
On, camera yeah and.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Maybe so more education on you can say no and
walk away feel comfortable doing.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
That, either, YEAH yeah i think having. That discussion, and
two like, you know if this was a, different scenario
it seems like everything was didn't get into like too
redline territory with like, you know essay or anything. Like that,
but yeah. Great points we're gonna get into the finale
of the. Story here, Oh boy so The things i'm
still so. Uncomfortable with would she have ever really told
(42:07):
Me had gina not accidentally shown me? Those picks why six?
FREAKING weeks i think my wife was uncomfortable in, the
MOMENT but i think reflection allowed her to realize that
she actually enjoyed. The experience i'm more convinced of this
than ever with that shot of her with a huge
smile where she and the girlfriend almost looked like they're
members of a burgeoning harem dedicated To hot. ABS mccools
(42:27):
i wish we had that nickname throughout this, Whole story gosh.
Dang it but having, SAID that i do think that
she was embarrassed by initiating, the shoot and she was
very scared of what my reaction was going. To be
but it says a lot that she didn't trust me to.
Tell me so that's where we're. AT now I guess
I'M glad i got to see, the PICTURES but i
don't know if this really cleared. ANYTHING up i think
she's telling me a version of the truth that's mostly.
(42:49):
Factually true but HOW the F can i? Ever know
i'm not leaving her or divorcing her based ON what i.
Know now part of me is very happy for her
that she had a. Good time i'm not Like The
fun police.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Or.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Anything again he was very excited for her to do the, solo, shoot,
like hey go go out there and get. Have Fun
but i'm still feel overall terrible about the.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Whole, thing yeah definitely Go To gina's google review link
a post to this.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Negative, three stars negative. Five, Stars dude gina fumbled. The
Bag samuel donner has just joined. The studio Ladies, AND,
gentlemen o? What's good? What's? Good baby ladies. And gents,
oh well ladies, and gentlemen boys, and girls people around.
The world we are about to Start the, oh Okay story, time,
(43:42):
Podcast right sam came back to FINISH THE. Epi, us
oh this is a. Finisher, finisher oh, so welcome, welcome back. You've,
Magic hello.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I'm, back?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah crazy who is? Right? Here riley but who's? Right here?
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Right now sam did a little. Switcher, room ooh maybe.
We're twins sam's gonna finish.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Us, off guys you guys ready for.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
This one?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
We're ready let me. Get it you just go, for it?
All right my ex introduced me to his. New girlfriend
but something doesn't. Add up what's going?
Speaker 4 (44:14):
On, here elementary my dear. Watching cheating that's all HAPPENED
when i was in high SCHOOL and i haven't seen.
Him SINCE so i started dating this guy my sophomore
year of high school and it only lasted about. A month,
TO me i wasn't anything, too CRAZY and i moved
on with, my life believing he did. As well by,
the way this COMES From I love horror. Twenty sixteen
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two years after, our relationship we shared a few classes,
senior year and we were kind of forced to talk
since we were in a, math GROUP and i was
hesitant to start any sort of friendship with HIM since
i was his first kiss in his. First, relationship oh.
First smooch you always remember your?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
FIRST moach.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I do who? Was it i'm not going to say,
their name but it was in ninth grade at a.
Movie theater. Good smooch it was, like awkward and then
she broke up with me the. Next. Week, dan oh
probably not for the, smooch though that was your. First
smooch two? Week, relationship oh it sounds like high. SCHOOL
anyway a.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Mutual friend told me he was a little HURT that
i broke up with HIM since i was his. First
love but one day he told me he had, a
girlfriend which honestly calmed me down and gave me more
comfort in talking, to him believing he was over whatever.
We had, over time we, became friends and he even
offered to help me train for RUNNING because i joined. The,
military honestly RUNNING and i were never, really friends so
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every day after school we would go to a trail
near our school. To train and keep in MIND that
i never twisted his INTENTION and i genuinely had no
other intentions than to appreciate. His help hey it's sam.
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Speaker 1 (45:54):
The show potonic friends hang out. And run here, We,
go okay not on roofs.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
On trails ONE day i got a message from. His
girlfriend the odd thing was it was from his. Phone number,
oh no It's a.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Canadian, Girlfriend dude i'm getting met her. A camp i'm
Getting another, canadian. GIRLFRIEND vibe i had a conversation, with
her not thinking much.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
Of, it honestly if my boyfriend was out every day with,
A girl i would also text them to see. WHAT'S
up i assured HER that i didn't want him nor
wanted to take, him away and she said she liked
me and was perfectly.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Fine with us. Training. Together, nice yeah there.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
We go it's so great when your fake girlfriend and
future fake girlfriend. Get along the, next day he apologized
on her behalf and told me that she really liked
me and would like to continue talking to me and
maybe even. Become friends since she didn't really have ANY
just i Message, only, yeah yeah it's a. VIRTUAL relationship,
i agreed and he said that it had to be
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from his phone since she wasn't allowed to have new
contacts or friends that her father did not. Approve of that,
was odd BUT honestly i didn't think much. Of, IT,
OH p i think you need to start thinking much.
OF something, i mean this is, high school. Right, you
yeah but it's the end of. High, school yeah, it's,
like yeah, come on, Start thinking. Start thinking so me
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and her started talking and texting every.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Breed.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Day now the weird thing was that she started sharing
very personal information about her RELATIONSHIP that i honestly didn't need,
to know especially about their spicy sleep lives and spicy sleep.
Related activities he also would brag about his really good
performance when we would, hang OUT and i would always
try to avoid. That topic, OVER time i started to
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suspect that she might not have been a, real PERSON
since i didn't know anything about her other than what
he would. Tell me he didn't have a photo, OF
her i didn't know what she. SOUNDED like i didn't
know her last name or who her. PARENTS were, i mean, come.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
On she's from.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Camp bro they Met, In, canady yeah they meant. A
camp they met, a camp. Strict parents she has like
social media.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Culture does not have. Last, names yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
And she's like, four, faces yeah or like it's, it's
cultural a. Cultural thing you. Would, understand honestly you're kind of.
A bigot you're trying to get name bodies and pictures of.
My girlfriend i'm trying to do.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Trying to steal. Her away you hear about all this
great spicy sleep and, you're like let me.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
See, WHAT yeah i told you out of the kindness
of my heart about that SPICIES that i didn't. HAVE to,
i DID and i will continue to do even if
you don't want.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Me TO but i didn't. Have to i'm not. Gonna
lie this is the craziest and most Hilarious catfish i've ever.
Heard of i've never heard.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
This before it's the most transparently weird and like OBVIOUS cat, i, mean.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Look you're gonna. Get caught you're gonna. Get caught you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Get CAUGHT but i would also like to add that
she was also crazy rich and from a.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Different, school yeah this is like my actress. Model girlfriend Her. Name,
sindea yeah she.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Doesn't have a.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Last, name yeah, Thank. You SOPHIEL.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
So i didn't know where the, camera WAS so i.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Didn't there she is looking good. LOOKING cute i like that.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
All RIGHT so i HONESTLY thought i was calm for thinking,
like that AND that i read too many picture books to,
even consider especially since they had an ARGUMENT that i
helped them. Work, through yeah we had an argument, about
like you know HOW good i am And yead SHE
said i, was GOOD but I said i, was.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Really babe let's stop the semantics and start.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
The, love yeah, you know there's only one way. Dead experimentation,
over time me and him became, close WHY and i
made the mistake of letting him drive me to our
step classes, Step class, IT'S dance i read that steph
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bro oh oh god classes that were in a.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Different school if you didn't have your, own car you
had to take.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
The bus he even offered giving me rides, of school
TO which i said no since my parents didn't fully.
Trust HIM but i did make the mistake of giving
him my address just IN case i ever needed an.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Emergency, ride well ONE.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
Day i decided to confess to HIM that i had
my first heartbreak from a past situationship that happened. AFTER
him i told him that the other guy was the
first guy fell for and that it broke me when
things didn't work. OUT again i did this thinking that
he was in a. Happy relationship he went silent and
later that night texted me SAYING that i, hurt him
that he, felt used AND that i led him on
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making him BELIEVE that i loved him when we. Dated
again this was two.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Years ago for, a, month dude a month in high,
school relationships, that's like that's like. Ten years that's like.
Ten years i'd give it a good like almost, six
months maybe like a four six times multiplier, Five, months
yeah something, like that four, to six four To six.
I'm saying i'm saying, ten years one, hundred hundred. ONE hundred,
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i mean you're spending every, Day together you're seeing each
other at school. Every day it's definitely a. BIG multiple
i guess mooching in between my first kids was a two,
week relationship, You know and how long does? That feel
how important is that? To? You dude, that well now,
doesn't matter you know at, the time it was at
the time. WAS important i so brit with my HIGH.
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EMOTIONAL iq i asked. Her out the same afternoon she
broke up with her. Other, boyfriend hey because she told
me during, the relationship if she wasn't, with him she
would be dating. Me Perfect and, john's like if one
plus one, Equals two i'm a wrecking. That petition, oh
god it was. SO bad i.
Speaker 4 (51:45):
Don't know it sounds like you saw a little little
opening in the in the goalie, right there and the goalie.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Wasn't there there's.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
WELL there, i mean it's like, it's soccer, you know
the goalie steps out while the.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Game's running days are you gonna? Shoot? It apparently apparently
thirteen Year old john was. Just raised thirteen Year old
john's a, straight shooter, my friend thirteen year old job
goes fin cringing so hard on, my lie you're not
cringe for seizing the moment and carpaying.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Those dams, oh baby never never. Do, THAT well i
told him that was never my intention to, hurt him
but it didn't matter now since he had a girlfriend
and it. Was happy And, then john here we go
the thing we never give it, to coming give it.
To one no one, saw This, And john i'm gonna
give it. To, you hey that confessed that she the
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love of, his life the girl of, his dreams and
probably only in his dreams.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
And imagination she.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
Wasn't, real, yeah yes. THAT'S right i mean we. Saw
it we saw it coming from a. MILE away a
chat saw it coming from a. Mile away, too obvious,
too obvious but, still fun, still fun. Still fun that
he made her up and it was all a baby.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Old ah he said that he made her up to
cope with everything going on in. HIS life i. WAS
shocked i didn't know how.
Speaker 4 (53:06):
To respond he told me that he had always been
in love with me and that it hurt HIM that
i didn't feel the. Same way he said that he
expected me to leave him like everyone else in his
life and go laugh about it with. My friends there, we,
go smart playing the. Pity card maybe she'll be sad
you and your fake ex girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Broke up they could be. With, you oh this is.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
So bad he said he was sick and passing away
and that he didn't have much time. Left anyways let's
go straight from fake girlfriend to. Fake, Illness, wow hey.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Man's got the. Infinity. Stone bro.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
All, The, stops yeah all the stops except being like
a good. Normal guy, yeah, no, no that's the path.
He's doing all.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
The stops you, KNOW what, i mean next he's gonna
pull like a princess diaries and he's gonna, BE like
i just found Out that i'm actually a prince of a.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
FOREIGN country i have. TO leave i HAVE to i
have to go with. My millions but HE said i was.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
The only thing bringing, him joy but he had messed
it up AND now i was going to, leave him
calling him a. CRAZY freak i felt like crap and
told him that wasn't. Gonna, happen oh, let's go. It's working,
say what, he's. Sick illness he doesn't want to talk.
About it she goes to. Another school it's too hard.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
To Talk, OH god I wish i had, the strength but,
you know. The medication the medications just sap in. My
strength it has one weird side, effect though big Super
COMB like i told you, my girlfriend, my girlfriend that
was the only thing that. WASN'T that, i, like yeah
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it's like, really yea. YEAH yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:56):
I TOLD him i wasn't going, to leave AND that
i understood EVEN if. I didn't i TOLD him i
wasn't going to leave the friendship and that he should.
Get help he said that he would help his f'd
up mind AND that i was.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
His. Cure baby the, doctor said there's totally one cure
for this illness he's. Afflicting. Me baby, it's you, it's you,
he gets, he gets.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
What are?
Speaker 1 (55:27):
You saying your, chest friend honeybe eighty five says he's
a Walking. For dora that's. So true oh, OH yes
i love him, All RIGHT so i stayed. It, worked
hey don't hate, the player hate. The game, OH no
I thought i was.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
Helping him he stopped training after SCHOOL since i told
my mom and she didn't feel safe with me being alone.
WITH him i can. UNDERSTAND that i don't REMEMBER what i,
told HIM but i remember he was a little. Bummed
out he still gave me rides to our, step class
which my parents.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Didn't, know god tell. Your parents this guy is a. Crazy,
person yeah a.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
Little mudge he swore that he RESPECTED that i wasn't,
in damn and that he wasn't going to lose it on.
Me again why do you trust?
Speaker 1 (56:15):
This? Guy, no no he invented a whole fake PERSON
to i don't.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Even know to get, YOUR sympathy i need to tell
you how good he. Has Invented crazy crazy logic has
continued for another few weeks before he lost it again
because he was sick and tired THAT all i did
was talk about. Other guys, he said he had given
me everything. AND more i gave you a, fake girlfriend a.
FAKE illness i drove you to, step classes but you
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won't step. To me he won't be my step to a.
Better life, he said he give me everything and more
and had done the impossible for me to be successful
in my future. Military life he made it his mission
to make me happy and to get me to step class.
On time he told ME that i should look for
my own rides and that he wasn't going to do
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anything for me ANYMORE since i didn't give him anything.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
IN return, i answered, all right we're getting. The retort here,
WE go, I answered i put my.
Speaker 4 (57:10):
FOOT down, I Said I, shane SHANE and i didn't
KNOW that i had to pay him back, for EVERYTHING
since i thought it was never from the well being of.
HIS heart i told HIM that i never begged him
to do anything that he offered to, help me not
the other. WAY around i told HIM that i hated
having people offer to help me expecting something. In return
he told me that he wished me, the best and
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we ended our, friendship There, but john there's a friendship
that should never.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Be ended oh?
Speaker 4 (57:38):
What's that and it's a friendship that can be created
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Speaker 1 (57:56):
Of stories just.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Like this oh.
Speaker 4 (57:58):
That's good That. Is john it is now back. To
me there's another relevant update here. We go but let's
discuss what do we think about. FAKE boyfriend, i.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
Mean this is if you looked up in a textbook
cringe af high school. Boyfriend energy this is exactly what.
That is i'm always looking that up. In, textbooks dude
He's he's he's given us The full schmorgis board of
of all the things, you know the nice guy could
possibly possibly.
Speaker 4 (58:28):
Pull, out yeah the nice guy bingo card is completely, marked, out.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Completely bro we needed just another piece of a napkin
just to, write, yeah, yeah yeah like. The, EXPANSION yeah,
i mean hopefully this is A a, i know this is,
high school, you know hopefully it's a learning lesson, To,
op like, all right these are like things to look,
out for like a good. Learning experience, maybe, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (58:51):
Yeah hey every red flag is an opportunity to not.
Chase him there we, Get again Dame of honor twenty,
twenty five, twenty five and you can, quote, that well
we got a little bit more of. This story so
the weird thing is that we were still in class
together and he would try and make conversation with me like.
Nothing happened he still lived the lie that he was
in a happy relationship. With someone for the rest of the.
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School year he would always have this look on, his
FACE and i always had this weird feeling. About Him if,
I'M honest i didn't feel safe with him after his,
initial CONFESSION but i was scared that he was going
to hurt ME if. I left i know it's been
sometimes since, this happened but honestly still feels, So UNSETTLING
and i don't KNOW what i would DO if i
ever ran into. HIM again i Guess what i'm, asking
is was there any way of? Avoiding this was it actually?
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My fault and WHAT do i DO if i ever
run into?
Speaker 2 (59:37):
Him?
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Again john what do? You? THINK uh opi literally not
at all. Your fault this was fully a. PSYCHOMAN behavior,
i thinks, just like distance yourself as much. As possible
summer's almost, hear hags so, You, know an it's your,
senior YEAR so, i think just like ride it out
and try to get as much space as humanly possible.
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From him you probably won't ever have to see him
again after.
Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
YOU graduate, I mean i think if there was something
to learn from this is trust. YOUR gut i, mean
you you was a little, weird initially and then you
became friends, with him and like all this, whole girlfriend fake,
girlfriend stuff beyond the illness stuff. LIKE that i feel
like that should be setting up red flags for you in.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
The, future yeah you don't know him anything anything for,
that matter but that is where that, Story, Ends JUN
and i think that is where this. Episode ends it is.
It's over.
Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
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