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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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aunt belittles me constantly, so I'm planning to skip Thanksgiving
this year. Be big her I thirty seven female, have
been dealing with passive aggressive to directly aggressive verbal harassment
for my aunt sixty female for years. Growing up, we
used to spend Thanksgiving at my paternal grandparents' house. They

(00:28):
both have passed away, so now we spend Thanksgiving with
my mom's family at her sister's house. By the way,
this comes from Perfect Beat twenty eight on the r
slash Okay story. Tom s upbrought it so Ever, since
I was a child, two of my mom's sisters and
one of her brother in laws have been highly critical
of me. Ever since I was a toddler, their nickname
for me was boss Lady. They knew it upset me,

(00:49):
especially as I got older and understood that this was
an install. No matter how well I was doing, no
matter how many great things I was doing, every get
together would involve one or more of them insulting me.
Or belittling me. In my early twenties, I nearly returned
to the bosom of the universe from a severe infection
which which ravaged my whole body. The infection was so

(01:11):
rare and none of my medical providers had ever treated
a patient with a case like mine. Took over two
years for me to fully recover from it. I say
fully in quotes because for reasons my medical team can't
fully understand. It has left me unable to process dairy.
Not even lack date pills will help. Even if I
as much experienced cross contamination of dairy in my food,

(01:35):
I will be bathroom sick and in extreme pain for days.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yikes.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, ever since we started having Thanksgiving at my aunt's house,
I've dreaded going.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh, you know why, she puts dairy.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
She puts butter, she puts milk in everything you eat.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Everything's gonna have even the smallest bit of dairy. Everything's
gonna have dairy. The fish is gonna have dairy. Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Past five years, I've shown up very late, a couple
of hours on my own. My excuse has been, oh,
I was taking the dogs on a hike. Truthfully, I was,
but I was also dragging my feet because I generally
did not want to be there. Last year, I showed
up late as usual. They know I don't expect them
to hold dinner for me, especially where I have allergies. Well,

(02:17):
the kicker came when my aunt came to me and said,
we put a plate for you in the fridge. I
totally forgot about your dairy allergy, and we used butter
on the turkey. But I put some potatoes, sweet potatoes
and stuffing on a plate. No joke. Plate they put
aside for me was boiled, unseasoned sweet potatoes, white potatoes
and stuffing which I don't trust had no dairy in it.

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As I could not read the box with ingredients. I
politely think her and tell her I wasn't hungry at
the time, but that I would take the plate home. Ultimately,
I threw it out when I got home. My allergies
have been known for over ten years. My mom's other
sister has a chocolate allergy. Funny enough, it was waned
over the years. From the time I was a toddler,

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I would specifically asked for my birthday cakes, which were
not chocolate, so my aunt could have some too. Somehow,
Now my aunt's managed to forget or just totally disregard
my allergy. I've learned to bring my own food with me,
anything from snacks to my own full mills, because I
cannot trust what they will consider, because I cannot trust

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that they will consider me at all. Which if this
bedriddens you or makes you sick or feel pain, totally
you know, agreeable.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah. Also, is there any reason that you are going
to these like Thanksgiving things You're not forced to go?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I think it's family though, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
But like is this really family? Because family treats family
like family.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
The one who had the chocolate allergy often orders pizza
when the family gathers. Fast forward to last month, the
biggest whopper was delivered. How I managed to keep my
cool in the moment was simply because I love and
respect my cousin. She was hosting the family in her
and her husband's new home for their daughter's first birthday.
This birthday was extra special, as their first child a

(04:01):
PREMI has to waigh. This cousin is a saint. I
cannot think of one bad thing to say about her.
Such a beautiful woman and mother. I've been out of
work for the better part of the year. In that time,
I took thirteen weeks worth of coursework to obtain my
professional certifications in project management. I was also encouraged by
peers in the field. The education system that provided my

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training considered me one of their top students, and because
I was going through the coursework so quickly double the
coursework on their dime. I got twice as many certifications
as a result. The job market has been incredibly competitive,
so it has been tough for finding roles that I'm
able to apply for with no formal experience. When I do,
I am one of one hundred plus applicants. My aunt,

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being the one hosting Thanksgiving, asked, how is your job
searching going. I told her what I said above, and
also said I'm staying positive and just doing my best
to network as I know the market is extremely competitive
right now. My aunt's respond well, I've been talking to
my friend who works for insert major tech company here,
and she said project management is extremely hard to get into.

(05:08):
It's like a super high level job. She literally raised
her hand over her head to visibly illustrate how high
level it is. You're not going to get a job
in project management.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Where's the family at here.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, I don't see the support.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Nothing is showing any signs of support here.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
You know, you might as well give up because you're
not getting that job.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Sorry, honey, you're just not good enough.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I was in shock. As mentioned, we were in the
middle of a fun, positive, wonderful family gathering. We were
surrounded by our family and my cousin's in laws, who
we all met for the first time that day. I responded,
I know it's a difficult and competitive field to get into.
I'm working on networking and even hoping that I find

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an assistant role part time so I can build up experience.
She doubled down with the well, it's not going to happen.
Read the room.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Read the room. That's all you have to do is
read the room. Like oh like, oh you've got this,
Oh what car?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
You can do it?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's read the room.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I managed to extricate myself by attending one of the
little kids at the party. I wanted to explode on her,
but there was no way I was going to cause
drama on such a great day for my cousin.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Good for you.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Later, I'll let my parents know what had happened. They
agreed it was not kind of my aunt to say
those things. I said, I'm tired of it. If she
does something like that again, I'm going to speak up
for myself. They told me, no, don't do that, just
let it go. I said, so I'm supposed to take
that kind of nasty and cruel behavior from her? They said, yes,
just don't start anything. It's not Why with.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
That, Now you're enabling the aunt of being bad person.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I just give her a knuckle sandwich. Hey, dude, is
it not to say anything?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah? They didn't say you couldn't tackle your aunt.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, dude, is that you could not be the grab
out of your aunt. I'm so tired of it, as you,
gotten to the point that I can't. So I just
won't attend gatherings with my mom's family until I've taken
my anti anxiety mitigation. I literally pregame with them to
get myself through the gatherings. I never know what is
going to come out of their mouths. With Thanksgiving next week,

(07:15):
I've decided if I am even going to attend. My
mother wants us to be together for the holidays, but
she also doesn't want me to cause any trouble. The
irony is that I'm never the one starting it. I'm
always going in polite and then take verbal abuse out
of left field. If I want to enjoy any kind
of Thanksgiving meal, I'm going to have to prepare my

(07:36):
own beforehand, then bring it forty five minute drive to
my aunt's house. Would I be the a hole if
I told my parents I won't go and we have
an update with some clarifications. Are we going or not? No?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I said it earlier. It's not your family. You're there
your family, but they're not treating you like family.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
She's not your family. Yeah, I understand. I mean if
they're going like out of their way to just make
fun of you. And you know what sucks if OPI
has siblings and all the siblings are like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Good for you.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh, you haven't had a job in two years, that's okay,
you're gonna find one soon, Like what update clarifications? My parents?
My parents are certainly not innocent in this. I'm aware
of that, but I do have to cut them a
little slack. The tax on me often happen outside of
their earshot. I couldn't even tell you who heard what
my aunt said about me never getting a job in

(08:22):
project management because I was in complete shock. My mother
was there but in another room. That being said. My
father had been there, he was working. I have a
feeling he would have said something. As others have speculated,
I think my mom's two older sisters have done their
share of belittling and demeaning my mother. She has seen
the hosting Thanksgiving flat out right off their third sister,

(08:45):
who lives out of state, over something petty. I forgot
what it was. Ultimately, I think had my mother heard
it in the moment, she would have said something, but
finds it difficult to confront her when she wasn't present
for the actual incident. Ultimately, my parents are incredible in
every other rite. My mother has literally saved my life
through a horrible long term illness. My parents both have

(09:07):
supported me and cheered me on through this very long
job search. I wish that everyone could have parents like mine.
This is one area that seems to be a struggle
for them, but I assure you they are incredible human beings.
The conversation had happened before I was prepared. We are
in limbo for now. My mom happens to be seeing
the two sisters who live locally tomorrow. She asked if

(09:30):
I would be joining them. I said I cannot. I
generally have another commitment. She was fine with it. My
dad asked, what should she say to them if they
ask about your job hunt. The reality is that I
am one background check away from being fully employed. The
job doesn't even have a child yet. Because a friend
from the nonprofit I am in literally handpicked me for
a role. He is customizing for me. He has many

(09:53):
things he will be looking for to manage, including project
managing tasks. When my aunt first accused me, I told
my mother she is not to be in the loop.
She has lost the right to know about my job search.
My dad suggests that she just say that I am
still actively working on my job search. The background check
should clear without issue, hopefully on Monday. Honestly, I told

(10:15):
her I still don't want her in my business, good
or bad. If she's going to bully and belittle me,
she has no right to be kept to speed. This
is when I told them I'm not planning to attend Thanksgiving.
I brought up the points I made a buff. My
mother said, she probably doesn't even know that she upset you.
I told her, I can't imagine she did it. I
find it suspect that this cruelty always comes out when

(10:37):
you and dad and my brother aren't present. Sees you
just that. I sent her a message saying that I'm
sorry I won't be seeing you tomorrow as I have
other plans. I just want to let you know that
the things you said to me at the birthday party
really hurt my feelings. I am not sure where she
expects me to go from there. Even if my aunt apologized,
I wouldn't take it as sincere. By the way, hopefully

(10:59):
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like this got a bunch. Then they both said, if
you have nothing else, you should go to Thanksgiving because
you have good news to share. I told them I
still don't want to. My therapist agrees that it is
not good that I need to take meds just to

(11:19):
get myself to slash through a family gathering. Having good
news isn't going to make that better. My dad, to
his credit, did say, well, well, I suppose even if
you tell them you have a job, Bully's sister would say, see,
it isn't a project management job. Like I told you.
I told him I had the exact same thought. She
would twist it somehow. I had Aerond's to run and

(11:41):
told them I would ponder it. I spoke with my
brother on the phone. He's been reading here too. He
agrees that I take too much abuse from them and
should not feel guilty at all about sitting it out.
I plan to stand firm and stay at home. How
future holidays will play out is left to be seen.
I really don't know how reaching out to my aunt
about how she heard my feelings would benefit I don't

(12:02):
see what can be gained from it, and that is it.
That is the end of the story. In facts, don't
don't put up with this with horrible family members.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, and the fact that your family is not like
your parents aren't supporting you how you feel and how
you want to handle things, says one thing as well.
It seems like they're trying to play a neutral party here.
But it's like, come on, but that's the other story.
I learned a secret about my stepsister's cruelty, and now
I can't remove it from my mind.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
What's this dark secret you have? Op?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I lost my mother when I was very young, and
my father remarried to the woman I grew up calling mom.
Mom has an older son and a daughter who's about
twelve years older than me. By the way, this comes
from Consistent Dirt seven eight eight on the art slash
Okay story Times sub reread it. So it was never
a secret that Mom wasn't my biological mother. I see
my stepbrother on the holidays, but I have had zero

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contact with my stepsister. I learn why that was. My
mom and stepsister moved in after she and my dad
got married. I don't remember her being very nice, and
then she was just gone. I was told she had
to go away for a while. And my mom brought
me everywhere with her the store, to her friend's places,
to the zoo, et cetera. She helped me get ready
for school and helped me with school work. She washed

(13:09):
a handful of kids movies in the theater that, looking back,
were likely indecipherable nonsense to her, all three of those
Pokemon movies. For example, she cried at my high school graduation,
even when she promised me she wasn't going to cry.
She was my mom and she loved me to bits.
All the while. She never erased my mother her and
my dad would look at photos of my mother, and
my dad would tell stories, and my mom always said

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she wished she could have met her. My father and
maternal grandfather had it for me after she passed away,
so I had something to remember her bye. I have
that photo album in my apartment, been looking at it
a lot lately. Here's the kicker, It's not the original
photo album. I never saw the original photo album. What
made my mom disown my stepsister is that she burned
the original after my mom scolded her for being rude

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to my father and.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
My not biological mom discovered what had happened because her
and her friends had done it together, and one of
her friends felt so guilty she confessed to her own mom,
who called my mom. My mom kicked out my stepsister
out of the house and had movers take her things
to her dad's house. So I'm assuming there was a
divorce somewhere along those.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
The mom was remarried the mom, yeah, the step mom remarried.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Dad came home to my mom, who explained in tears
what was up. She and my dad then went around
to the family friends close and distant, and even my
mother's alma mater to look at for photos of my
mom to try and make a new album. Dad told
me everyone in their lives had risen to the occasion
and they were able to build a new album even
if some of the original photos and polarights were gone forever.
They had new photos from mom's college friends. I asked

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Dad if my stepsister even apologized or tried to reach out,
and he confirmed she tried, but Mom fundamentally wants nothing
to do with her. I thought a lot about forgiveness
and family these last few months. I never knew about
the original album, so I didn't have much of a
reason to hate her. I do think the album was
likely a last straw from my mom and wasn't a
primary problem, even though destroying the album was cruel and

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of evil. I don't plan on talking to my mom
about it. I think it would be better to respect
her desire to continue not having a relationship of any
kind with my stepsister. My only plan is to make
sure to give both of my folks big hugs. We
have some relevant comments here. How old was Stepsist when
this occurred? Stepsist was eighteen maybe nineteen? Like, what do
you do?

Speaker 3 (15:18):
This?

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Probably was the final straw. There's maybe some jealousy. This
seems like it's between the mom and her daughter.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
The Opie's step sister.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Opie can be nice and like be like okay, cool, like.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, OPI didn't even know about this photo album yea,
until further down. I guess she just left. I think
this was not a great way to handle a child.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, but she was eighteen, she knew a little better.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I mean, we've all been eighteen. We've all done him
and made stupid mistakes, and you learn, you live and learn.
But we don't know the what got to this point.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Kind of Yeah, we don't know the other context.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
But I feel like maybe she was upset about a
new family moving in, probably sister new dad that she
doesn't care for or knows.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
We just don't. We can't assume, Yeah, we cannot. But
we have an update. I made a post a few
days ago about learning about how the photo album made
of photos of my deceased mother was actually a replacement
album after my stepsister her bio daughter. So we have
an update. I texted my mom that I knew about
what happened, and I asked if I could call her
to talk about it. We talked and clarified some things
my dad likely forgot. Even before she had started seeing

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my dad. My mom and stepsister were having problems.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
All right, some contexts, okay.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
We had We kind of assumed here. Her ex husband
was a fair weather parent and wasn't very supportive. My stepsister,
during her last two years of high school, became part
of a clique of girls who were always in trouble.
Mom had to field several accusations of bullying and otherwise
poor behavior. She tried to get her into counseling or therapy,
but she refused point blank, and at a certain point,

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you can't force someone if they don't want to go
into therapy. She tried grounding her and taking away privileges.
She had also been lying about applying to colleges, so
the final few months before graduation were a mad dash
to apply for schools before throwing the towel and having
her apply to community college. When she married my dad
and moved the both of them into my dad's house,
the only expectations my mother gave her were be nice

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and be tidy. She was never expected to babysit me well.
She couldn't follow those guidelines and clashed almost every day
with my mom and my dad and would raise her
voice at me, I was six years old at the time,
for watching TV or playing in the backyard. My stepsister
only lived in that house for over a month before
my mom sent her away. The breaking point was reached
even before the photo album. My mom told her ex

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husband he had to take her for a while. Stepsis
was pissed because her father lived an hour away and
she wouldn't be able to see her clicky friends anymore,
but Mom put her foot down that she couldn't stay
there with the way she had been treating everyone else.
My stepsister must have found the album and called her
friends to meet up with her, where they burned it
in a bonfire.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
It was a legit burn book.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
What why that? Why not something else?

Speaker 2 (17:54):
It was, I guarantee you it was to get at
her mom and to get at this new family that
might like you move out and I'd to go away
to dad. And you're being controlling parent. YadA YadA, YadA.
You suck mom. And this is like a middle finger
to them, to you.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Why didn't you egg their house? Why didn't you slash
their tires? Why did you have to do that?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Don't do any of that? Actually I would.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I would have been way cooler if she would have
done that. Fact that she's burned that book.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
The fact that you're an eighteen year old and you're
burning legit photo album of someone's deceased parent, what's wrong
with you? When Mom asked why on earth she did it,
my stepsist thought it would be a funny prank to
take something from my father and I that we would miss.
Mom ended up kicking her out right there and calling
movers that day. She was furious and upset and felt

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the two of them having some distance apart would be
for the best. Mom was also panicking because she thought
her marriage had just gone up in flames literally. However,
my father never blamed my mom for what had happened.
Mom told me she just didn't have the desire to
reconnect with my stepsister when she reached out a few
years ago. She can't let go of my stepsister's deliberate
cruelty to not justify her and my father, but to me,
my stepsister was an adult when she did what she

(19:02):
did in her absence. She had a wonderful husband and
two sons, my oldest stepbrother and I who were kind
to her. My relatives all loved her.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
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Speaker 1 (19:25):
I just want to know what happened to the sister now.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
But the fact that the mom, like if this is
your kid, and yeah, do we get updates from like
the ex husband.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
We're about the un we got to see.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Let's just go straight into it. She admitted that her
mental health had improved considerably without my stepsister around. She
had wanted to prioritize the people in her life who
weren't toxic. She assured me she hadn't left her with nothing.
She had full access to a college fund that my
mother set up for her when she was born, and
she will still get inheritance. Mom finished the call by
telling me she still felt horrible about what happened to

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the photo album and wish those memories of my mother
weren't gone forever. I told her it was okay and
I appreciated the links. She and my dad went to
replace it before telling her I loved her. To address
a few comments, I did not and still do not
have any desire to talk to my stepsister. I just
wanted the whole story, and that is the whole story.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
That's it. Everybody.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Wow, I hope the stepsister learned from her mistakes. Yeah,
that's one thing. But yeah, you did. You did a
really fed up thing.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, facts, facts.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Opie has a good family, Yeah, a great mom.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Oh yeah, I's seen the story and this an episode.
If you love us, make sure to subscribe.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
We love you and see you tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
My mother condoned my husband and sister cheating, so my
father divorced her.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, it shouldn't it be fine because Mom said it
was okay.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Mom said I could cheat on her with her if
I wanted to, so as long as I was home
by ten, Dad, Mom said it was okay. This has
been the most traumatic year of my life, and I'm
wondering if I'm being too harsh or if I'm justified
in my choices. I female thirty five. I was married
to my husband Mail forty two for eight years. We

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have two kids together, a son nine and a daughter seven.
I thought her life was stable and happy until everything
unraveled seven months ago. By the way, this comes from
clicking pop on the Okay storytime subpured it so I
found out that my husband was cheating on me with
my younger sister, twenty four. I didn't discover it through
subtle clues or intuition. My son overheard an inappropriate conversation

(21:27):
between the two of them at a family gathering and
came to me confused and upset. I mean traumatizing w son.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
How old does that soun? Do we have any information
on that? It's probably nine nine nine, dude. These kids
are like little used geniuses.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
When I confronted my husband, he denied it at first,
but eventually admitted to the affair. I was utterly shattered.
But what made it even worse was that my mom
sided with husband and sister. She defended their actions, saying,
your sister is young, she doesn't know any better.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Girl.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
I'm twenty three and I know better. What are you
talking about?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Their own mother defended that behavior.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
She's not a baby, she's twenty four years old. You're
crazy and your hat's been must have felt neglected to
fall for someone else. Then she had the audacity to
suggest I forgive them and keep the family together for
the kids.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I know why she's crazy now I remember the title
of the story.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
But she's a cheater too. My dad, on the other hand,
was furious. He called out my mom's behavior, told her
she was enabling betrayal, and eventually filed for a divorce
from her because he couldn't tolerate her lack of morals.
He's been one of my few sources of support through
all of this. I filed for divorce immediately and cut
off my mom and sister completely. My kids have been

(22:47):
struggling with the fallout. My son is especially angry and
has told me he doesn't want anything to do with
his dad. My daughter is quieter, but has been acting
out in small ways, and she's seven. We've been going
to therapy to get and I've been doing everything I
can to help them navigate this while also trying to
heal myself. Over the past few months, I've started putting

(23:07):
my life back together. I focused on my kids, leaned
on my dad and close friends for support, and even
started dating someone new female thirty six. She's been incredible, kind, understanding,
and supportive. She's great with my kids and they've grown
to lover which makes me feel like I can finally
see a light at the end of the tunnel. But

(23:28):
the chaos isn't over. My sister's relationship with my ex
husband has completely fallen apart shocking. Right now, she's blaming
my mom, saying she encouraged the whole thing. I mean,
she did, like owed up to your own actions, but
she did. My mom, meanwhile, is blowing up my phone,
accusing me of tearing the family apart by refusing to

(23:48):
forgive them. She says my new relationship is a slap
of the face to our family and claims I'm being
selfish for not letting her or my sister back into
my life. To top it off, my ex husband has
been reaching out, begging for forgiveness and asking for a
second chance. He's telling me it was all mistake, and
then he misses me and the kids. Of course, they
all come crying back to ope, but ohp he's in

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a happy relationship.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I miss my own life before I completely ruined it
by my own actions.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
It's the consequences of your own watch.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I'm now the ghost of relationship past because it's not
in your present or your future.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Stupid, you don't goofed it up when you cheat it
on her.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
My son and daughter both want nothing to do with him,
but I'm conflicted about how much of a relationship, if any,
they should have with their father. My dad and friends
say I'm doing the right thing by cutting out toxic
people and focusing on rebuilding my life, but the guilt
tripping from my mom and sister is starting to wear
me down, and I'm wondering if I'm being too harsh.

(24:49):
You're not your mom's crazy and your sister's awful to you.
Should I try to reconcile with my mom and sister
for the sake of my family. Should I give my
ex more of a chance to be involved the sake
of the kids. Am I the a hole for divorcing
my husband, cutting off my mom and sister and moving
forward with my life and new relationship? And there is
an edit, and I believe an update. But why do

(25:12):
we say to Opie?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
I mean, I don't think you're the a hole for
like leaving this guy and wanting nothing to do with him,
But it's like, no, you're not an a hole, because
also you brought up the fact that you are concerned
like about the impact he could have on the kids,
and I think that's really important and needs to be addressed,
probably in a clinical setting, like by a therapist.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
I think they're going to therapy.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
I think, yeah, So it's like that is where that
decision needs to be made, maybe that the kids don't
want anything to do with their dad yea, and they
come to that decision on their own, and then you know,
you can move forward by trusting their intuition and their feelings.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I do think that like going forward, it's trying to
figure out how to co parent the best way possible,
which doesn't mean that you're like together at all. Like,
don't ever get back with this man.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I definitely would not go back.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I don't think, op, he's going to go out of
the way to like try to turn the kids against
the dad.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Anymore than he's already done it himself.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
The son caught them. Yeah, so that's already kind of tricky.
It's like you can't do much there, but there is
an edit. But you're not the ale op edits. I
have changed my number and I'm currently moving. No, I
don't speak to any of my ex husband's family, and
apparently the snitch was my aunt and her husband. Are
we shocked, So I'm officially not speaking to them. And
for the people complaining about the fact my kids no

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my girlfriend, so what my children adore her. Also, for
the custody, it's sixty forty, meaning I can choose which
schedule the kids can have with their father since I'm
the primary. No, I'm not forcing my kids to not
speak to their dad. They've told me numerous times that
they don't like going to my ex husband's house, and
I respect that. I'm currently going for full custody. For

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the people telling me to get a restraining order, my
lawyer said they haven't done anything to endanger my children,
so illegally can't get one. My dad also has some
suspicions that my mom cheated on him, with how she
was defending the affair. Yeah, I believe that.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
I would be extra suspicious of her. Yeah, she's there
after hearing those she must.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Forgive someone if they cheat, know that I would ever
do it.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
He wasn't meeting your need, Oh you.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Want meeting his clear? I mean he was being neglected just.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Like I am in my relationship.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Boooo.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
But there is an update, so let's get into it. Wow,
there are a lot of homophobes in the replies. I
want to first say thank you all for the kind
messages and some are kind replies. Now for the update.
The people that suggested my mom may have cheated slash
had an affair were correct. Apparently my mom cheated on
my dad early in the relationship, but said she stopped

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the affair when my dad found out spoiler she didn't.
We aren't exactly sure if my sister is my father's child,
and quite frankly, we hope she isn't, as or my
ex husband. Yes, he is allowed to visit his children.
He just refuses to see them because my kids hate
being around him, not because I'm restricting it as people
are claiming. I have sixty forty custody and the judge

(28:11):
granted me full permission to set a schedule on when
my kids see their father, as long as he isn't
completely out of their lives. It also might help that
the affair he had with my sister, no one knows
how long it went, but my son has spoken to me,
which is hard for him and said that he's always
seen his daddy talking to my sister, so it's definitely

(28:32):
gone on since she was early twenties, which is yikes.
My children are completely fine. They're currently in therapy for
this and other stuff. No schoolwork has been affected, and
my girlfriend certainly isn't affecting them. Matter of fact, they
love her in the few times she's here. For those curious,
my son is turning ten soon and he heard more
than one of these conversations. He only told me about

(28:53):
this one because he understood what they were saying, which
is traumatizing for a child to literally listen to. But
you know what, you should always listen to us and
join us live every week to have three pmpst on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, and.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Twitch will whisper sweet Nothings to You or sweet some Things.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Who knows. You'll have to join to find.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Out who's the same. But there is a little bit
left of the story. But that's pretty tricky. I mean,
like it seems like they truly don't want anything to
do with their dad right now.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, and you know you gotta respect that in that moment,
it's like you don't want to pull them either way.
I think it's smarter the chord to be like, well,
you guys, you can have like the full plan. You
can you can make the schedule. Yeah, as long as
he's not completely cut out, because it's like to be fair,
it's like at some point the kids could change their minds,
Like they got a lot of life left and right

(29:41):
now it's probably really raw for that.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Oh yeah, I mean they like again the sun heard
it is probably still realizing more stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
From the sound of it.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's like realizing that, yeah, they've been talking for a
long time. Oh they were always talking. Daddy was always
talking to her and stuff like. So it's hard, but
but I think you're on the right track here.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
I think you're gonna figure it out. And there is
a little bit left. A massive FU to the homophobes.
My children adore my partner. No, she isn't like a
second parent to them. She also loves them as well
and is in no way trying to take on a
fatherly role in their life.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Shout out to all of those people and shut.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Up, yeah, shut up, and freaking shut.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Up, shut your stinky trash mouth.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
And for the people claiming this is Ai a lord,
I wish it was I'm flattered you think my life
is fake. I wish it was, but sadly it isn't.
And that is the end of that story.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's say I, we're going to get back to these stories,
but here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. My
mother and stepfather pulled a horrible prank on my brother.
I want to sue them. No, it's bad when you
gotta go to court, when the legal system is involved.
I don't know if that counts as prank or rehea.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
It's all jokes, not in the eyes of.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
The law, buddy, your honor, I was joking.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I twenty female, am an older sister to my little
biological brother, seventeen male, who finished high school last year.
My little brother and I are really close. He says
I'm the best friend he has and he loves me
more than anyone.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Of course, this is not true. He has many friends
of his own.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
By the way, this comes from user Jamie Doo on
the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So, my brother has
been asking our stepdad and mother if he could get
a new car for his grad party since last year,
and he said he'd pay fifty to seventy five percent
of it with his own hard earned money while they

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paid the rest. They said, no, I have a car,
but I had been working for one and they helped
me pay it off. So my brother's arguments with our
parents got heated after a while. One time I told
my brother that I'd help him pay off expenses for
a good car once I got my own. He hugged
me and said I didn't need to worry in that
he owed me way more than I owed him. But

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he continued to press our parents all of last year
until they gave in and said yes, like they did
for me. Note that our stepdad and my brother have
a negative relationship for the most part. Our bio mother
and stepdad got together soon after our biodad and mom
divorced when we were little. My brother thinks that stepdad
and mother were seeing each other before our real parents divorced,

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and to be honest, I think that might be true. Anyway,
my stepdad, my mother, and brother compromised and said they'd
get him the car in twenty twenty one so that
people don't gawk at him at the graduation party June
of this year. My brother and stepdad slash mother are
still on about the car. Now, the arguments are getting
loud and lasting hours until the evening. My stepdad was

(32:37):
getting into screaming matches with my brother over it, but
they reached a final compromise of the car being bought
last week. The fateful morning comes and my brother wakes
up to our stepdad and mom guiding him.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Outside to a car, but not his are mother's.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Stepdad used his and my brother's money on a dumb prank,
bought a completely different model of car and said it
was for our mom. Our mom and stepdad just laughed
and kissed each other. My brother didn't lose it or anything.
He didn't even look angry. He just looked directly into
our stepdad's eyes and said, and I'm not joking verbatim.

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You might think I'm effing stupid, you might think whatever,
But I'm.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Just better than you, bro. You know that.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
I know that, And our mom is an e thing
idiot for staying with a prick like you.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
But I'll make you wish you'd never effing met us.
I promise you. You might be laughing now, but you'll
be crying later. Woo wow. And then he waded away
wattle waddle.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Until the very next day.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Wow, because again this is a prank that was such
an appropriate callback to the old Internet.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Because the duck was playing a prank on the man.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
The man said, no, we just sell lemonade, but it's
fresh and it's squeeze and it's all homemade. Will you
give it a chance? The duck said. He then walked off,
not even looking back at them as they stared horrified.
They asked me what was that about, and I, feeling
terrible for my brother, said they had it coming and

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not to be surprised.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
So now they grounded both of us.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I've had to explain the situation to my friends as
I can't see them anymore. But I feel so bad
for my baby brother, and they backed me up on
this and asked me to comfort him as much as possible.
But our parents are so mad and they can't see
that my brother had his heart crushed?

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Am I the a hole? How could you be the
a hole here?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Buddy?

Speaker 1 (34:34):
I think your parents are whack.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah, we're gonna get you one. Nope, it's for your mom.
And also I think they stole his money.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, did they take his money?

Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's a question I have. Did they take his money?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I mean maybe the prank is that they're saying it's
for the mom, but it's not.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
I don't know. This was confusing. I thought the prank,
to my understanding, was like, oh, we got you a car,
never mind for your mind.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Right, I think that is, but the car exists.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, we'll find out soon whether or not the prank
is the car is your mom's or it's like haha,
it's not the car that you thought it was gonna be,
or maybe they're gonna share it. I think regardless, if
you're gonna do the prank, you need to also clarify
like pretty quick, like like it is your car, buddy,
it's yours, right, it's your car. Relevant comments from Jick.

(35:22):
Not the A hole that was really cruel and they
used your brother's money for it. But also, how can
you be grounded when you're twenty years old? Opie says, well,
I still live with them, So it is what it is.
Finny Keepistrano says info. So, if I'm understanding correctly, they
took your brother's money, put it towards a newer car
for your mom, and are giving your brother your mom's

(35:44):
old car, not the A hole. What your mom and
stepdad did is deceitful, cruel, and borderline criminal, and both
you and your brother would be one hundred percent justified
in going no contact with these demented crooks. So Opi responds, Yep,
but they gave my mom's old car away months ago.
She had to use public transport to get around terrible situation.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
So they did just steal this kid's money.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Which is insane because I don't know. This is kind
of annoying because on the one hand, if they literally
could not afford to help their son buy this car,
they should have just said that. She just said like, sorry,
we can't, like we can't even afford to get mom
a car right now. Instead, they played this terrible prank
and stole his money.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Which is not a prank.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
This is just a Fela ivery again, your honor, I
was joking.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
It was a prank.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
It was so few you should have been there, your honor.
It was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
It's not a prank if you actually do the thing.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, what, Vinnie Capistrano responds, So they used your brother's
money to go towards a car for your mom, and
your brother still has no car. Opie responds, Yep, but
stepdad said that mom and my brother can share the car,
which doesn't make things better. Westcott says, info, I don't
understand the most important part of the post. Did you
say your stepfather stole your brother's money and bought your

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mommy a car? Opie says, no, he didn't steal it.
I'm sorry I should have clarified better before stepdad purchased
the car. My brother and stepdad pulled the money for
the car to spend in a single purchase.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
But no, no, no, no, Dad.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Is stealing because they had an agreement that the car
would be his. That stealing.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
What are we doing If I give someone.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Money and I say, hey, this money is going to
be spent to buy me an apple, and then they
go and take it and buy themselves a watch. I
don't know why that watching the apple at the same price.
I'd be like, hey, you stole my money.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Snarky Goblin eighty five says not the a hole. I'd
move out with my brother if I were you and
cut ties with them. If not now, then as soon
as feasibly possible, Or if your dad is in the
picture still, then maybe see if he can step.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Up for you and your brother. They stole your brother's
money to buy themselves a vehicle and laughed about it.
They're grounding you at the age of twenty because you
called them out on it.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
There was no respect in that house. I wouldn't feel
comfortable relying on them for anything. I wouldn't want to
go to university when at any minute they could renege
on whatever fiscal agreements you guys had made. Also, that
isn't a prank. This is a crime. But your honor
we laughed. We laughed your honor, which makes it legally
a prank. OPI responding to that is a crime.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
It is. I'm taking this very seriously.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Do you think I can tell on my stepdad to
the police. My brother and stepdad agreed to put the
money away for the car that my brother wanted. The
issue was that he made a purchase he didn't want.
Is this illegal? When asked how she thinks she is
the a hole in the scenario, my stepdad thinks I
insulted his pride, and my mother is offended. I took

(38:43):
my brother's side on this so it might make me
look bad in their eyes, and like a bad child.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
You're not a child. You are not a child.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Your mom and your stepfather are toxic.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Incredibly so. The fact that he's a you insulted my pride.
What who carest care about your bride?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, my dad, why are you proud?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
You literally just stole money from a seventeen year old
boy to get your wife a car. You're pathetic when
told to leave and move in with the biodad, OHP responds,
thank you everyone. All of these insights mean a lot.
I'm working on talking to my brother on a potential
legal action, like a lawsuit to get the expenses back
from our stepfather. My biodad is generally nice and loving

(39:26):
to us. I think he barely tolerates our stepdad and
his ex wife our mother, and he'll take us back
in full time if the law allows it. If not,
my brother and I will move in together to our
own place. Right now, I'm trying to be there for
my little brother as much as possible, lots of cuddles
and free food, but he won't stop bawling his eyes out.

(39:47):
I'm worried psychological harm has been done to him. And
there is an update, let's dig.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
In, dive in the.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Time away from the post. It kind of blew up lmao.
My brother and I appreciate everyone tuning in with their insights.
I took a break away from work today to call
my biological dad. Since I'm over the age of eighteen,
in our state, custody arrangements aren't as stringent on me
and my brother.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
In a few weeks.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
My biological father legally sees us forty percent of the
time and my bio mother gets sixty percent. I have
the legal right to choose if I should stay with
my biomom and her husband and my biological dad, who,
in my opinion, is a much better fit. My brother
and I have agreed our biological dad is the only
way out of this madness, so we're going to move out.

(40:35):
We'll raise the issue in court if need be, and
we need to get away from this madness. Right after
writing the posts and getting comments suggesting legal action, I
talked to my brother about it. He's still kind of
feeling awkward about it, but he feels certain that that's
the route he will take, so as not to pass
any statute of limitations since in a few weeks he
will be an eighteen year old. I'm certain a few

(40:57):
weeks is fairly safe, though, lol. I'm not legally smart
at all, Nor is my brother, nor am I. But
we're getting good at this stuff. He got robbed and
he deserves his money back.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yes, absolutely, make an agreement and you spend money on it.
You would hope that agreement would have some follow the.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah, it's like that's and it's not a little bit
of money, he said, No, it's he said seven fifty
to seventy five percent, So that's at least we're talking
thousands of dollars. A few comments mentioned the setting up
of a go fund me. My brother wants everyone to
know that he appreciates the gesture, but asks people not
do that to themselves. He's adamant about taking his stepfather

(41:37):
to court over this, and said that the messages of
support were extremely touching. He wants everyone wanting to donate
somehow to him to keep their money and use it
to better themselves and their families. If at eighteen I
had strangers on the internet being like, I'll give you money,
I would have been like, give it.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
This guy is very mature.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, And all of the offers of free cars from
working mothers to him.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Working mothers were offering him cars, he.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Said, people with families deserve their cars more than he
does at his age. Wow, this guy is a stand
up kind of guy, and he better fight his stepdad.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
And we're on the.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Courts, within the confines of the law.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
We would like Op's brother to fight his stepdad, and
we would also like you to not fight us when
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Speaker 4 (42:42):
Just tap it and you're in.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
We might have been live right now.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Lastly, I end this by saying thank you to everyone
for my brother's sake and for my own. We realize
what a terrible situation we're in, but we're taking steps
to get away and it means a lot.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
And there's an edit if this is meaningful to anyone.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
The car my baby brother wanted was around eighteen thousand dollars.
Seventy five percent of that purchase, so thirteen and a
half thousand dollars was pooled with the remainder of the
money my stepfather had. My father purchased a cheaper car
with his own and my brother's money. Is thirteen thousand,
five hundred dollars worth going to court over.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah, that's like life savings for certain people. Relevant comments
says consistent Winter sixty seven. Is is that worth going
to court for? I'd go to court for a tenth
of that. Reluctant Seal says, I feel for this Op.
She's really naive. If this is real, I'm glad she
reached out in some way instead of just going with it.
She's twenty and still talks like she actively follows a
custody agreement, and yeah, that is true.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
I feel like this is infantilized. I'm a mage.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Fight Me says, Yeah, if this is real, I have
to assume that Op has been incredibly incredibly sheltered, probably
raised in some sort of religion that is very strict,
because even if an adult is still living with parents,
you can't really ground them. So that plus the idea
that she was still not following a custody agreement at twenty,
plus not realizing that the theft of over thirteen thousand

(44:12):
dollars is a very obvious crime. It all reads is
someone who has no idea how the real world works.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
This is harsh.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
You a lot of twenty year olds like this like,
very few twenty year olds know how the real world works.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah, I also need to touch on the fact that
because if an adult is living with parents who really
can't ground them, they really can because if they wanted to,
they could just change the locks and be like, there's
a twenty year old outside trying to get in my house.
Her writing doesn't indicate a developmental delay, so sheltered upbringing
makes the most sense. Mother of Puppo's says, seriously, it's
also bananas that OPI thought it qualified as a prank. Well,

(44:46):
I mean that's what they did. Also, what country do
they live in where twenty is considered a minor?

Speaker 4 (44:50):
He never said she was a minor. She said that
her brother, seventeen, was a minor.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Add Angel says, seriously, I kept waiting for the prank part.
This is literal theft.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
But that is the end of that's story. Hopefully Peace
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Speaker 4 (45:08):
I stepped in to make sure my son and his
cousins were safe. Now, my in laws think I overstepped.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Ooh sorry, I was just thinking of the children.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
So a bit of background the starts. I work in childcare.
This is important for later and have been since my
son three male let's call him Marshall thick name, was
nine months old. I thirty one, female Jenny fake name,
had been working full time throughout my five year relationship
for your marriage with my husband, minus my three month

(45:39):
maternity leave. I was working in fast food before my
current job. By the way, this comes from where Wolf
number seventy six seventy two on the Okay storytime severed it.
So anyways, because my husband, twenty nine male Robert, and
I got married in twenty twenty during COVID and had
our honeymoon baby Marshall, neither of us have been able

(46:00):
to meet much of our family's extended family. Also, my
parents are divorced, but I and our son got to
see my mom's side when my grandpa unexpectedly passed away
last year. Last year, my husband's family, spearheaded by my
mother in law, Faith, who I absolutely love, and his grandmother.
Grandgrand decided that it was time to have all the

(46:20):
siblings their families come to grand grands and Papa's for
Thanksgiving the upcoming year twenty twenty four for the first
time in nineteen years. Wow. There are nine siblings and
my father in law Forest is the oldest. Because there
are so many siblings, I will just be referring to
the one that is involved in this by his birth

(46:41):
order number. I don't want to come up with that
many names, and most of them aren't important for this anyways. So,
because my husband Robert and I both work full time jobs,
we had to save up PTO all year in order
to be able to make this trip happen. We wanted
to be able to enjoy ourselves a bit. I made
my plans with my dad Boyd for the first part
of our trip, since we were going to the same

(47:02):
state anyways. We left early the Saturday before Thanksgiving, driving
down from Washington State to Utah, stopping in Idaho for
the night to break our trip before starting early the
next morning. We arrived at my dad's and stepmom's Josie
on Sunday night and stayed for two nights and most
of the third day. We as aforementioned, had several activities

(47:23):
planned and had a really great time so far. Everything's
nothing to worry.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
About everything's lining up, ow for.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
What you have been waiting for. It was previously arranged
that on Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving, the guys will
go shooting while the girls would socialize and make pies.
Being the newest to marry into the family and not
being a social butterfly, I was supposed to be able
to meet the girls in a less intimidating setting and
cook which I love. For further context, my husband is

(47:51):
the oldest of the cousins and so far the only
married one, which puts us myself and my husband in
a bit of an awkward position with the other adults.
We arrived at the airbnb we were sharing with my
in laws and brother in law Henry twenty two male
fake name, Tuesday night, have traveled about three hours to
get there from where my dad lives. Needless to say,
we were pretty tired from our trip already by this point.

(48:14):
Wednesday morning, my husband took her son with him to
grand grands and papause while mother in law and I
got ready. Father in law and brother in law left
extra early to go meet up with all the guys
for shooting, and myself and my mother in law followed later,
as we had to make a stop on the way.
When myself and my mother in law arrived at grand
Grand's and Papause, the guys were already gone, which was expected,

(48:35):
and I went to check on my son. No one
was watching him or the other littles. And he's three.
That is an age you gotta keep an eye out.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
That's like a kind of fag.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
So you commit a crime by doing that, that's neglect.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Number eight m and his wife Sarah fake name, five
children were all downstairs with my son and the older
three early teen to tween age girls. We're too busy
watching a movie in the other room and not keeping
tabs on their younger brother Thomas, six male, their sister
Lily two female, or my son Marshall three males.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
We got a lot of parts in this story.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
As stated in the beginning of this post, I worked
in childcare, and so I felt that I had to
stay downstairs and watch them because no one else was,
even though Sarah was sitting upstairs not participating in making pies,
et cetera, because she's pregnant with number six and too
sick to do anything. After a couple hours of watching
the kids, more family members arrived and thirteen girls and

(49:34):
I had them take over for a while so I
could get into the kitchen with mother in law, grand
grand and the rest of the girls, where I'd hope
to stay for the rest of the day, with the
exception of when my son needed to change slash potty.
We are potty training. While I was upstairs with the girls,
Sarah was complaining and saying she has done enough? Isn't
she like not done anything? Wasn't like the whole point?

(49:55):
She was like, I don't feel well, so I'm not
gonna do anything.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
She's pregnant, don't you know she's done enough?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
I was extremely upset. She hadn't lifted a finger or
gone downstairs to watch her kids, any of the kids
even once. She's a stay at home mom who doesn't
cook or clean at all. She homeschools her kids. Her
youngest daughter was in footed pajamas and clearly hadn't had
a diaper change all day. Why is this woman have
kids if she's not even taking care of the ones
that are out. Also, there are a lot of wood

(50:21):
stairs leading downstairs, and I was seriously afraid that Lily
was going to get seriously hurt. Falling down them, since
not only were they slippery, but her footed pj's were
too big as well. Very dangerous.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
What is this house of horrors?

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Literally, I bit my tongue and said nothing because I
didn't want to make waves with someone I had literally
just meant. But I regret it. If I had spoken out,
then maybe the later drama wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
One of those kids is fallen down the stairs.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Yeah, one of those kids getting hurt.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
After lunch, I went downstairs to just check on Marshall
and the situation downstairs. And I wasn't down there for
more than five minutes when the teen girls who had
been watching the kids all scattered leaving. You guessed it
me to watch the kids again for several hours. You
should have known you can't leave or you can't go downstairs.
It's like a holding up the sky if you take

(51:13):
over a You know, this was difficult because Number eight's
and Sarah's children are free range. Thomas kept trying to
escape and run out onto the street, and I was
terrified every time Lily got near the stairs.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
What do you mean free range? Is that a thing?

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Yeah, it's just they'd run wild. They run them up.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
They're not chickens.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Nope, they aren't. Thomas and Marshall were somewhat playing together,
but Thomas kept taking toys from him and getting upset
when I would tell him that he needs to take turns.
Lily unfortunately copied her brother and started doing the same
thing with Thomas and Marshall. Eventually, my mother in law
game looking for me, wondering what was going on and
why I barely spent any time upstairs. I gave her

(51:52):
the condensed version of the story, being that I had
been stuck watching the kids because no one else was.
She was furious because she knows how shy I am
and I work, so she instantly understood that I could
not just let the kids run wild, despite my desire
to get to know the girls and make pies, et cetera.
Who's gonna be making the pies? I would just WoT
be to make the pies.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
What can't somebody think of the pies?

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Would think? Is so much of the children that we're
forgetting with the pies?

Speaker 1 (52:18):
The delicious pie.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
My mother in law, Faith, my son, Marshall, and myself
ended up leaving early because before the guys came back
from shooting, even though they were gone much longer than
originally planned. To go back to the Airbnb because I
was upset and overwhelmed, but my mother in law had
to go back to making rolls. My mother in law
went back with the intention to let them have it,
meaning in number eight in Sarah, but my father in law, Forrest,

(52:43):
caught wind of what was going on and talked her
out of it until after Thanksgiving. She gave them the
silent treatment the rest of the night. Once my husband
came back to the Airbnb, he told me that I
wasn't allowed to leave the kitchen tomorrow except for bathroom breaks,
which sounds bad, but I think he means it in
a well meaning way. He's like, yeah, gotta stand those
ketchen making me a pie.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
I think he's getting a little cheeky. Yeah. I think
maybe they have a little cheeky dynamic.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
I think they got a little cheeky cheekiness going on.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
There, and that's perfectly fine.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
He absolutely didn't want me watching the kids and wanted
to try and make up for being gone so long,
and I'm unable to switch out with me. Thursday, Thanksgiving
started pretty uneventfully. I was in the kitchen, helping my
mother in law, Faith, Grand Grand and the other girls,
not Sarah, who was still sitting upstairs too sick to
do anything.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
I don't mean to like dunk on the pregnant woman,
but I bet you she ain't gonna be.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Too sick to eat.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
No, she just gonna eat at all.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Bet you she's gonna feel real good when dinner time
comes around.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Number eight was cooking on a smoker outside for several hours,
so he didn't have a chance to rub each other
the wrong way. Much later, after all, the tables got
set up with everything cutlery, plates, napkins, decorations, et cetera,
including glass goblets on Grand Grand's insistent, the last of
the dinner preparations were coming together, and a few of
the adults were socializing at the table, including Number Because

(54:00):
all his cooking was done, Thomas wandered upstairs, and in
fear of him breaking the glass goblets otherwise mess up
the table, I approached him and was gently trying to
convince him to go back downstairs with the rest of
the kids, when Number eight snapped at me, yelling that
he Thomas was fine and he was gonna stay right
there despite him immediately starting to play with one of

(54:22):
the glass goblets. Then grand Grant approached Thomas, and Number
eight yelled at her two his own elderly mother.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
You don't yell at Graham, Graham.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
You don't freaking yell at grand grand or you get
to get the fists, because she was afraid of the
same thing I was. Then I discreetly texted my husband
to intervene and asked him to make sure none of
the kids came upstairs until it was time to eat.
Same thing happened again. Then a couple of the other
siblings said the same thing. You would have thought that
maybe this would have given him slash his wife the hint,

(54:53):
But last no, and there was more shouting from Number eight.
After another half an hour or so of the back
and forth, he finally decided that maybe Thomas should be
downstairs after all. Dinner was an awkward affair, at least
for me, because I could feel the animosity towards me
from Number eight in sarah because obviously everything was my fault,
since I couldn't just let their kids get hurt, et cetera.

(55:15):
As soon as dinner was over, I wanted to leave.
I was supposed to be on vacation and enjoying myself,
but instead I had to watch some unruly kids and
then get yelled at and later snubbed because I was
trying to make sure everyone was safe. And we want
to make sure that you safely join us live every
week to at three PMPST. It's you're to Facebook, TikTok,
and twitch.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Don't do it while you're driving, or flying a plane
or operating a train. Always safely. And you know what,
we might even be live right now as you're watching this,
so go check see if we're live.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
But wait once acond, We've got a little bit more
to the story. So do you have any final thoughts
before we crack it open.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Sometimes it's really hard to tell parents that their kids suck.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Oh that's also true.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
It's kind of really hard.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
What you just said is the nice way of saying that,
which is like, it sounds like these kids are being
actively ruined, and it sounds like they're also not in
the safest environment.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
I was so upset and overwhelmed by the whole situation
that I did not leave the airbnb on Friday and
was overjoyed to leave for home on Saturday morning. Don't worry.
We made it home safely on Sunday and are grateful
our trip is over. So am I in the wrong
for stepping in and making sure that my husband's young
cousins and our son were safe at a family gathering
over Thanksgiving? And that is the end of that story.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Oh P, I just want you to read that one
more time and you can answer that one yourself.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Am I the a hole for making sure that kids
were safe? Obviously not

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