My ex-fiancé and stepsister CHEATED years ago…now my family demands I forgive them! | Reddit Stories | EP2083 - ok storytime

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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me with my stepsister. Now my family wants me to
forgive them.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh way, do not forgive that. Move on greener pastures.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
So when I was twenty three, now twenty eight, I
was engaged to Ryan thirty two now thirty seven, and
our engagement ended when my stepsister, Kelly was twenty four
now twenty nine, begged me to leave him because they
loved each other. But Ryan was too afraid to break
up with me because he didn't want to hurt me
and my family. Maybe try not sleep, stepsister, if you
don't want to hurt people.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
WHOA That is a strong first sentence.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
By the way. By the way, this comes from throw
rafn f on the r slash to Okay Storytime subreddit.
If you want to send in your own, go to
that subredd I send him in. So when I confronted
Ryan about it, he denied it and said that she
had been trying to come on to him for some time,
and he never mentioned it because he didn't want to
ruin a relationship. He begged me not to believe her,
and so he continued how we were the Opie basically

(01:09):
took him at his face value.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay, Kelly grew resentful and made.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Nasty comments about how he was forcing a man who
didn't even love me to marry me because I had
low self esteem constantly.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Wow, this Stepsester sucked, dude, talk about evil Stepsesters.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Disney was right, yep, yep yo cast her right now.
A month later, she sent me a video of them
having spicy sleep in my bed. Oh oh that is
unrefutable evidence. Oh wow wow ooh, and multiple screenshots of

(01:51):
him telling her he loved her, oh, how he wished
she was the girl he was marrying, and how he
hated that I wouldn't let them.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Be to what do you mean, Just break up? Just
break up? There are better ways to go about.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
This, and just to call it out even more, the
using shifting the blame on other people, like oh, yeah,
you know, Op's the one that's keeping you from me. No, no, oh,
he's just autonomy. Op's just sitting there living a life.
You are the one that's making up this insane mental

(02:29):
olympic set that you're doing these quadruple backflips through. Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh man, those those first sentences just got me. I'm
locked in, dude, I'm locked in.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
So I was devastated and angry, but my best friend
convinced me not to go nuclear on them and instead
to quietly move out where Ryan was at work the
next week.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Smart, hey, hey, hey, you know what, self care over pettiness.
Self care over pettiness. Do not seek revenge, seek healing.
The healing ooh, because healing can only happen after you
let go of revenge and be like water.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
True se quote. I think stable Donner. Uh So that's
what I did. I contacted my dad and my stepmom
and asked them if I could move in temporarily. I
removed the money I contributed into our joint account for
the wedding expenses and transferred the rest to him before
closing out the account. Once I got settled in, I

(03:25):
sent all the screenshots she sent to me to all
of our relatives in his And to be clear, this
isn't the spy. I don't say spicy spicy video. This
isn't the spicy text, spicy videos. This is just I
think screenshots of him confessing his love to her over
text and saying like, oh he's getting the way and

(03:45):
all that.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't know, that's a little I think it's a
little trashy. Yeah, they're they're you know. The argument for
doing that is like, you know, uh uh, getting ahead
of the story, Like you control the story, and so
if they start weeping lies about who you are and
what you're doing, you can kind of preempt that.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah. Ba, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I just feel it feels like it feels like the
same reason we got into the Cold War with Russia,
where it's like, oh, like I'm gonna use my nukes
on you, You're gonna like it's like a it's like
like preemptive war. And usually when you do preemptive war,
it's just like a bad move.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, like like you're basically you're like, oh, the other
person's gonna make the shot first, when in reality maybe
no one, no one makes a shot.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, yeah, I guess the better one is Hiroshima. It
was like preemptive war. But like, I don't, I don't,
I don't think that that was necessarily a good move.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Same diseation, dropping nuclear bombs and civilians hot take, hot take.
So Ryan tried to get back together with me multiple times,
but I ended up blocking him when I found out
he had proposed to her with the same ring he
gave me that I left behind.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Recycle read we used. I know I used that joke earlier, like,
but I love that joke.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oo.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I mean, wow, he's gonna buy a new ring.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
I mean, no, man, Godly, dude, what's wrong with you? Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
So, what's wrong with the sister for accepting that too? Well, dude,
step stepsister and talking about my self esteem? You know what,
They're made for each other. They are made They are
made for each are perfect for each other. So honestly,
you're you're doing yourself and them a favor. You do
everyone a favor.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
God. So, now, Kelly is my stepsister from my mom's side.
I have another stepsister thirty six and step brother thirty
eight from my mom's second marriage, as well as half
schipster twenty six. They all went to the wedding whenever
I was their wedding. Wait wait wait wait wait yeah
yeah oh so yeah, yeah, yeah, so he did. I

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thought I thought of people saying, oh, she tried to propose,
she like dumped him, and now she was trying to
get back with me. But I guess it was she
tried to get he tried to get back with her.
It didn't work any work. He's like, all right, screw it,
I'll just subtle for Kelly or I'll get with her. Wow.
Everyone went to the wedding. Wow. So whenever I tried

(06:13):
to express I was hurt by the fact that they
were supporting Kelly slash Ryan as though what they did
to me meant nothing. They would shrug it off and
say that they couldn't cut them out completely because their family.
It's okay their family. You don't have to cut someone
off to just just don't go to the wedding because

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you're like, yeah, I don't approve. Who is she mad
at for going at the wedding? She's so basically all
of us, all of her mom's side of the family
essentially went the mom, yes, her step kids from her
mom's second marriage, like all of those people. And it's like,
yeah to op, which honestly I understand. It's like you
are co signing the insanity of what they did, and

(07:01):
you know what in a in another world where Ryan
was like, Hey, this is the most messed up thing
in the world. But low, KEI fell in love with
your stepsister and.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
And maybe ended it like more elegantly as eloqately as
you can.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
And there's there there's no like truly elegantly, but there
is a the most elegant. There is a better way.
Right if that was the case, that's you know, more
grey area.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
But due dude, So so you would you would say
that like if so a question if you if you
had a sibling that did this, would you not go
to their wedding?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
So if I had a sibling that stole my partner,
not your partner, someone else's partner, but it's their partner,
you got to use the scenario at hand, right, So
so if if my sister stole my wife.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
But I guess I'm trying to think about it through the.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh the fami Okay, So yeah, yeah, yeah, So if
I'm hmm, if you're.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Like, like, if your sister did this, what she would
never do? Yeah, but if she did this, would you
still go to the wedding?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I think if I understood, uh what that, I assume
I'm you know, and I'm somewhat close to this person
and I have conversations to understand how they feel. If
I understood how they felt, I I think I don't
know if I would go to the wedding, you know,

(08:29):
just because how about a parent. You're a parent, my parent?
Wow if my parent did that? Or no, you are
the parent. Oh I'm the parent. Yeah, okay, that's it.
I will say it is. It would be hard being
the parent and not going. Yeah. So so maybe if

(08:51):
anyone's POV, I understand the mom the most because it's
like it's just like not going to your child's wedding. Yeah,
just feels like that's just like a dream I think
probably every parent has. But so like I understand where
the mom will be coming from there, but it also
sounds like it wasn't addressed to OP. Yeah, like, hey,

(09:11):
I know I'm like going to this wedding, but like, hey,
I want to see my sister. I want to see
my daughter get married. But I also understand OP basically
is like, oh, I'm like unseen, like I my hurt
doesn't matter to you all. Yeah, I want to.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I guess like Eli, if this was my sister, I
would be like Hey, I think you started this in
like the worst possible way. I don't know if this
is a good marriage. I don't want to like, I
don't want to support it.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, that's also hard to do as though. Yeah, that's
also hard to man.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's tough. It's a tough situation to situation question if
your family member did this or you were if you
were the parent of someone who did this, would you
still go to the wedding?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Light up that keyboard. Let us know in the comments
and let us know too, Chap. So Uh. I haven't
spent a single holiday with my mom's side since, neither
has my older biological brother or sister. I only see
my mom and half sister when I invite them over
to my place. As Kelly and Ryan moved in with
my mom and my stepdad a year after they got married.
Our relationship is very rocky, but I've gone closer to

(10:06):
my dad and stepmom and their children, an older stepbrother
and two younger half siblings, who have all been very
supportive since it's all happened. So it's not been all bad.
On New Year's Day, my boyfriend now husband proposed to me,
so we had a small engagement party, which I invited
my mom and my half sister to so so not Kelly. Yeah,

(10:26):
the worst of it, but yeah, they never turned up
because I was excluding half of our family.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Wow, this is the wedding you choose to conscientiously eject from.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I never invited my stepdad or step siblings because they
were pretty hurtful when it came out that Ryan and
Kelly were sleeping together. They claimed it wasn't their fault
and that I was the one who got in the
way of their true love. Never let your what is it?
Never let your stepsisterb me providing your Yeah they're.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Wrong, common dude.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
They made me out to be some sort of vindictive
Disney villain for being angry with them. We were planning
to have our wedding ceremony this summer, but in late
February my husband suggested we postponed until next year because
he was concerned the VID could get worse and we
would have to cancel a reschedule it anyways, So I
ended up finding out that I was pregnant a month
before our original wedding date. When so we had a

(11:24):
courthouse wedding on that date with the plan to hold
the ceremony next year. Only my dad's side of the
family were aware of both the pregnancy and the wedding.
So my mom likes to knit, so she's been making
stuff for the baby. Recently, she's posted about the things
she's made on Facebook, with the caption talking about how
excited she was to have another grandchild soon. Do we

(11:47):
I see you? I see you? What is about to happen?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I mean you're gonna get cut out. You're getting cut out.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
You don't get grand baby time if you are horrible
to me? No, no, I can you support the person
who stole my partner, the person I love? Yeah, I
hope he's going to play that boundary down so hard.
I'm very excited for And I was tagged in the
post who she said, I'm gonna tag you like a chew.

(12:15):
I have zero issues with the post. I never told
my family I wasn't going to inform my mom's side.
It wasn't that I intentionally hid it from her. She
just never really seemed interested in my life slash relationships
though I never brought it up. It seems like they're
just like in not as heavy contact because she's been
stopping on her boundaries. My mom called me an hour
later to demand to know if I was pregnant and

(12:35):
how she couldn't believe I had old her she was
finally going to be a grandmother. She has since invited
me and my husband over to her house multiple times.
I've declined every single time for the obvious reason, which
is that Kelly and Ryan, you know, the people who
screwed her over live there. My stepdad, who I've barely
spoken to it five years, has reached out to me
to tell me how excited he is to meet the

(12:58):
baby and my husband, and saying with my bio sibling, nope, nope.
Even Kelly reached out to my husband congratulated. No not again, no,
not again. He's like, I got you a little president.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, we gonna have to come over and see it.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh god, emphasis on the over. I was furious, so
the next time my mom and stepdad called me, I
fully laid into them. I told them I don't want
them to keep inviting me over when they knew I
would be forced to see Kelly slash Ryan if I
came over. I told them how hurt and angry I
still am over what they did and how my quote

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unquote family dismissed my feelings. I told them how they
wouldn't throw Kelly and Ryan away, but they were so
quick to leave me out to rot whilst I was
going through the worst betrayal I'd ever experienced in my life.
And I told them I wasn't even sure if I
wanted people like them in my child's life. Quick pause

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there chat saying thoughts on on all that.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean, yeah, they they get they I mean not
only they like f you over once by going to
this wedding of this person that destroyed your life, which
I think may be able to be forgiven, but then
they doubled down by not going to your wedding like

(14:24):
like that. That like that doubling down that that's showed
you everything that you need to know to to to
you know, put your boundary down. And uh, definitely talk
to them a whole lot less.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh yes, and and Opie this like, oh I laid
into them, but I feel like op just kind of
very explicitly laid out, Hey, here is why I am
so hurt and feel so betrayed and unsupported. Ye yeah, man,
you gotta and at that point they need to know, Yeah,
I think so. Yeah, if they don't know. So my

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mom was crying a stair and kept saying I was
being cool and I couldn't deprive her of her first grandchild.
The thing is, my baby isn't her first grandchild. Here
we go. My sister has two adopted daughters.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yep, yep, oh my first real grande babies. No, no,
those are your real grandbaby.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh God, but if you had a heart that wasn't
shriveled and blackened like the great, then you would know that.
Just saying, uh, my sister has two adopted kids already,
who my mom doesn't even try to bond with WHOA.
She kept wailing about how I might be the only
person in our family to even give her grandchildren. My

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stepsisters are both having a hard time getting slash staying pregnant,
and my half sister has her proclaimed herself to be
child free. Oh so, my stepdad got angry and defensive
at me. He claimed I was petty for holding onto
something that happened five years ago. He pointed out how
I had found someone else, so I should understand how
love works and sometimes two people just can't help themselves.

(16:10):
Not helping Stepdaddy, you love you love basically is what
he said. He said Kelly and Ryan were happy together,
so I was happy for them the way they're happy
for me and my husband. The ironic thing is my
sister told me Kelly and Ryan looked like they were
on the verge of divorce. Oh. They argue constantly. My
mom complains to her about them, and how my siblings
all hate him and pretend like they like him, just

(16:32):
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But we have a little bit more to the story,
and I'm gonna dive right, let's do it. I ended

(16:53):
up hanging up because I was so angry, and when
I got angry, I started crying. I didn't want them
to think they got to me. Since I've been receiving
text and calls NonStop from my mom's side of the family,
they're all essentially telling me that I should be over
all of these things already. It's gotten to the point
where me and my husband have switched phones so he
can screen my messages for me and I don't have

(17:15):
to read them. Wow, that is I've that's insane. How
do I make my family understand just how unforgivable what
Kelly and Ryan has done to me? I would prefer
not to go completely no contact, but is that my
only option here? So let's answer.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Again they you need to send a memo and just
and I think uh, I think uh. We do their
classic iPhone lock screen method where it's like, hey, here's
a memo. This is why I'm so hurt. This is
how I want to be treated. If you're willing to
treat me like that, I would love to have you
in my life. Every Like, if you don't treat me
like that, I'm going to have to put more distance

(17:58):
and kind of like see what happens.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I Am going to say, this might be entering the
gray zone where it's like they've already I feel like
that's when that's like like a it's like the first
or second or third like response. It sounds like they've
already committed, like their their rap sheet, they've they've committed

(18:22):
felonies already, right, So it's like if you've committed a
thirteen felonies already. Am I gonna give you community service?
Or am I just gonna be like, yo, you've had
your chance, you got you did the crime, You got
to do the time. The only reason of and innocent.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
The only reason I'm thinking about doing this is it
sounds like OPI doesn't want to cut their family out.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
That is true. Open is that my only option?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I'm like, okay, like, yes, give op one more right, yes,
before they have to do what they really don't want
to do, which.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Is totally fair. Like I, you know, like shout out
to op after all of this, you know, trying to
be empathetic and think about her family. But yeah, man,
I think I wonder if OPI's doing that out of
once or obligation. Obligation. That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
That's a good point if you Op could be like, no,
I'm supposed to be close to my family, yeah, and
that's whatever should I do this? And I think the
answer to that is, I mean, just like everyone else
in your life, your family has to like earn their
their place. Yeah, and if they are, if they are
constantly wearing you down or hurting you, then you just

(19:32):
have just as much a right to put a boundary
up as you would anyone else.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
In your life. Couldn't that a better myself?

Speaker 2 (19:39):
But I'd love to know what you guys think. I'll
put your answers in the comments below and we'll get
into this next story.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I started dating my mother's friend, but my friends think
it's weird Bobby mummies friends with benefits. Well. March ninth,
twenty twenty five, am I wrong to go on a
date with my mother's friend. My mom is in her fifties,
I'm thirty five and and Clara is forty three years.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Old for carl okay, so that's kind of in between.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
My mom helps run a few clubs for her church
at the community Center. One of those is a hobby
club where they try all sorts of arts and crafts
and activities. Clara joined the club around a year ago,
and a few months back, my mom and Clara got close,
so she started inviting Clara over to hang out at
her house alot. I met Clara when my mom invited
her to dinner, and I was over that night. Woo.

(20:25):
By the way, this comes from chaff Champion, and if
you want to submit your own stories, go to our
slash okay storytime. So after a while, whenever Mom and
I would plan to hang out, Clara was always included,
and I suspect this was intentional by my mom trying
to play matchmaker.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Wait, so so mama's setting them up.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, Mom playing matchmaker worked and a week ago Clara
asked me out. Oh. I asked my mom if that
would be awkward for her, and she laughed and told
me that she thought I should do it.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Okay, so we got like a consent on all side.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
We've got the co sign. That's great. So Clara and
I made plans for a date and the plane is
to go out in a couple of days. Thing is
is I mentioned this to some of my friends and
their partners, and they all seem to think it's weird
of me to date someone who is a friend of
my mom. Yeah, get over it, it's fine. Screw them.
Yeah yeah. Oh god. Everyone I've spoken to about this

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other than my sister and mom are creeped out by
me dating Clara, and I can't understand why. I just
get big, Oh, you're being weird, creepy or it's just
dick when asked why this is wrong? When my even
my mother approves of it. Am I missing something here?
And we've got some comments, but just super quick, nothing

(21:38):
wrong here. I think it's fine. I think I think
all right. Your mom is a right.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
First of all. First of all, it seems like your
mom became friends with this person almost to set you
up with her. It's like it's like it's like, oh,
I met this girl at my hobby class. Let me
invite my son over and then they can link up.
I feel like it was her playing match maker from
the beginning, and this friendship was part of the matchmaking process.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, and it's what eight years bad math? You know,
it's not it's not crazy. It's not a crazy. It's
especially crazy, especially when you're like in your you know,
mid to late thirties. I feel like that like kind
of also changes the dynamic drastically for big age gaps. Fine,
so it's fine.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
It's like eight years from him and then about ten
years from the mom, if that makes sense. So it's right,
it's frighten themental.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, it's not too bad. But we have some comments.
Maybe they think differently. A commenter says, you're missing that
no matter what you do. Judgmental people will judge you
for it. Go have fun on your dates. Yeah, I
think it's fine. I think it's fine. Opie says, You're right,
people will judge over anything. I'm surprised my friends are
all against this, and I can't get a clear answer

(22:53):
as to why. Out of them, A commenter says, absolutely
not wrong. Your two adults. What's weird or wrong about?
Parents have been playing matchmakers since time began? It's lovely
that your mom introduced you and Nope says yeah, my
mom loves being a matchmaker. She introduced my sister to
my brother in law and they are perfect for each other.
You mom has got a track record. Who commenter says,

(23:14):
I don't necessarily think it's wrong, but think about this.
If things don't work out between you and Clara, be
it after a date or two, or even a messy
breakup after a long term relationship, how will this affect
your relationship with your mom? She the type of person
to hold a grudge, choose her friends over you, try
and convince you to stay together. Also, if Clara and
your mom are good friends, how would you feel about

(23:35):
Clara sharing details about you in intimacy with your mom?
I mean one would pray, pray that Clara would have
the wherewithals to.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Not yeah, a little separation there, I think. Again, I don't.
I think they were. They became friends because of the matchmaking,
not because of like that.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
This is some deep, deep friendship. Yeah yeah, or like
even if they didn't, I feel like she probably like
seized the opportunity and it was like, oh yeah, a
nice attractive young lady from my son. I don't think
it's an issue. Now. I'm not saying all this would happen,
but it is a possibility. Opie says. The potential issues
with a breakup and her being mom's friend are why
I was hesitant, But my mom and I spoke about it.

(24:19):
She assured me she wasn't worried and thinks that even
if things don't work out between Clara and I, everything
will be fine, and my mom would shut down any
attempt at mentioning him to busy with me. Thank God,
she walked in on me and a girlfriend in high
school and that memory haunts both of us. Stay and
The top comment on the post from Buckworm thirteen twenty

(24:39):
four says, this isn't abnormal at all. Before online dating,
it wasn't uncommon for people to meet through family, friends
or through people's parents other than you socially that were younger,
who had similar age kids they wanted to introduce their
child to, et cetera, et cetera. This is just a
long form version of that basically. Plus you don't have
to stress about her liking your mom if it gets serious,
true she already does. Sounds like a win. When and

(25:01):
we have an update, I think something might go horribly wrong.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I think they're gonna go get a happily ever after.
I think we got a little cougar, a little steed
riding into the sunset.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Because usually because because hear me out here, right, So,
like the stories with like the most insane you know,
roller coaster nose dive openers, those are the ones that
can like end up the best at the end. Right,
We've been smooth sailing so far. Like it's just like
friends making some some comments off the side.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Like yeah, you're like, we're gonna we're about to take
the nose dive. If you haven't had a nose dive
in the beginning, you're gonna have it in the second half.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
We've been we've been doing this. You know, when you
just climbing up the little wooden roller coaster. All right,
let's see update three days later for context. I am
thirty five mail. My date is forty three female. We
actually met because she's in a hobby group with my
mom and a courage to go out together to my
friends and their girlfriends did not approve when they found out.
At first, it was because she was a few years

(26:01):
older than me and because she's a friend of my mom's.
But after pointing out that our uh, that our age
of eight years is not a big gap, and my
mom was supportive, they just started calling it weird and
creepy for me to date her. Eventually, after everyone else
I asked seem confused about the problem like I was,
they came clean and admitted that they had been talking

(26:22):
to my ex that left me a year ago, and
she had been missing me. I knew there was something.
There was something. There was something.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Also, why does the ex just say something directly?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Why are you passing note so in fourth grade? Honestly,
I feel like OP needs someone more mature. Maybe eight
years older.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, or maybe what's forty seven minus twenty seven? Twenty
years older?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
W do you guys ever do that will you ask
your friend to ask out a girl for you?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Uh, like when I was in eighth grade, maybe yeah,
or like not ask.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Out but but like okay, you know that's again in
a hypothetical world, like you can have a homie like wing.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well I've definitely asked, like my sister like, hey, like
is this this person that you know, like like sets out.
The vibe is that it could there be a potential vibe. Yeah,
And Sofia is usually like, I don't know, ask them,
so fair, come on help my brother out. To be clear,

(27:26):
she's been very helpful. She usually just says, nah, okay,
it was great.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
But so my ex is friends with the two disapproving girlfriends,
and they had all been planning to try and get
us back together like some kind of ashy romance plot.
My ex left me after we were together for a
year because she didn't feel right.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Oh feel right.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
It hurt like heck at the time, but I've moved on.
I've run into her a few times, have been polite,
but I have no interest in a relationship or even
a friendship with her. She's not part of my life anymore,
and I'm keeping it that way. My friends made me
feel like I was crazy and weird for wanting to
go on a date with a woman I get along with.
We've hung out a lot in other settings, just not
a date yet. Also, they could try and force my

(28:16):
ex back into my life. X texted me this morning, Oh,
asking if we could meet up and talk, and I
told her that I wasn't interested in anything she'd have
to say and I would like to keep my distance
from her. M Is that a fair response? Ah, I

(28:37):
think you could.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I think there's like maybe a nicer way of saying that,
but I think it's somewhat fair.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, I think yeah, yeah, like UH could have had
uh you know, yeah phrasing. But I feel like the
general gist of it is like, yeah, hey, you hurt me,
and like I yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Basically, I think like if I was to get if
I was to think of the most empathetic thing to say, like, hey,
appreciate you reaching out, but I just don't feel ready
for you to be back in my life right now.
I'll reach out if that ever changes.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, but you kind of know what
her game is. She may have like got her little
goons together and said, hey, so here's the game plan
to get them back in my life.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, which is weird. Which is weird.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
It's also are your goons? I think, like, like I
feel like those friends are Are those friends your friends?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
That's the are we gonna are we gonna end up
completely imploding because like it came from his two girlfriends.
What it was sounding like was it kind of was
like caing coalescing into a pressure from like all the
friend group, even if it wasn't like explicit. Yeah, yeah,
I know it.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Well, yeah, the friend group is like acting on behalf
of the X to maybe do things that are not
the best interest of op Yeah. So yeah, who are
you really friends with? Very weird, weird. It's oh at your.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Mom's hobby club. Oh god. I'm also putting some distance
between my two friends who were playing along with the
girlfriend's stupid game. On the plus side, I'm really looking
forward to our day tonight, dinner, drinks, and a walk
through town to enjoy the nice weather that we're getting.
And some of Opie's other comments, the top commenter says,
trying to manipulate you into a canceling a date because

(30:23):
they care more about the feelings of the girl that
dumped you doesn't really sound like something real friends would do.
They aren't my closest friends, so I'm strongly considering just
moving on from them completely. Commenter says nothing says cheat
on me more than taking back X. Oh god. Opie
says she wasn't a cheater, it just wasn't working out.

(30:43):
And we have another update that night. So this is
literally first one was three days later. Now it's literally
this the night of the same day. Okay, I want
to throw out the conspiracy theory. X is not taking
no for an answer and it's gonna go crash. The
eight crashes the date. Yo gets the intel from ragoons
from her two little girlfriends, pulls up on the date

(31:06):
and is like, m why are you with my man?
And then she's like wait, what's going on? And then
she just like confuses, She's like, yeah, we've been dating.
Like look at all these pictures.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I mean, I I feel like that is a worthy
conspiracy theory. My my conspiracy theory on the other side
is the date's gonna go super well and he's gonna
fall in love the cougar and the young buck. You're
gonna ride into the sunset. But one of those is

(31:36):
gonna happen. But I do think, uh, you know, set
boundary with X, and I think, uh uh OPI kind
of already did that, but maybe not in like the
most empathetic way. And then I think also set boundaries
with friends. I don't know if I would completely cut off,

(31:56):
but it would make me.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Want to hang out with them less.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
So I think again like a tear boundaries, like, hey, like,
I don't like that you were doing this. If we're
gonna be friends, you can't try to manipulate me. But
also in saying that I would, I would probably just
distance myself more, especially if they're not like super close friends.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
I'm gonna I'm gonna pull you on me. You have
two two women who are your kind of friends with
but are not in the inner circle, right, so you
see them at at the parties and they get togethers
and everything.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
And they were trying to get me back with my ass.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
And they were trying to manipulate you into getting back
together with your ex. Would you, you know gracefully? Essentially?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
If so, I think what I would be do is like, hey, like,
I don't I don't want you trying to I'm not
trying to get back together with my ex.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I don't want you to do that.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, and I feel like it feels like you value
our friendship less by trying to do that. You're totally
invited to our potlucks or whatever. But I think I'm
gonna do a little space and that's communication. Thanks and gentlemen,

(33:09):
I think that's what I would do. Hey, it's Sam.
We're go get back to the stories. But here's three
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Speaker 1 (33:14):
Well, we have the faded nights the date to update
number two. But I just got home. I did not
expect this much support. Figure out'd let anyone finding this
late checking back in now, the date went very well.
Having had a first date go that well, I think ever,
to be honest, second date has already been planned. I'll
be cooking dinner and we'll be watching a few terrible
movies that we both share a love for. As for

(33:36):
my crappy ex friends, I've already told them we're done
being friends. Yeah, I understand that. Luckily they are part
of a separate social circle from my main group of friends,
so it's a very easy breakup process from there. X
did try calling me. I went ahead and blocked her
everywhere I could think of, not letting those idiots ruin in. Otherwise,

(33:57):
amazing nights. Thanks again for event supportive for words. I
know I made the right call, but it's nice to
be validated. You know. We have another update four days later. Wow,
there's got a lot more tension than it deserved. Came
back to hundreds of messages and people wanting to know
about date number two. It went just as well as
the first. I'd say I made chicken palm and she
got my favorite sighter to drink. We watched Velociraptor because

(34:20):
that movie is truly art at its finest. She's an
incredible woman, and now we're official, so I get to
brag about my awesome girlfriend to anyone who will listen
to me. She's confidence, smart, funny, gorgeous, and she knows
what she wants. She's very straightforward, which I appreciate. Obviously,
it's way too early to tell what the future of
this relationship looks like, but for now, I'm happier than
I've been in a very long time. Also, my mom

(34:42):
is smug ashack and teasing me relentlessly, but my girlfriend
is getting it even worse because Mom and the girls
from the hobby club are ganging up on her. It's
all in good fun. I just think they haven't had
much new relationship gossip in a while. By the way,
if you want some other fun, wholesome new re relationship gossip,
then go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts and search Okay Storytime,

(35:05):
which is a top one hundred comedy podcasts, Top one hundred,
Top one hundred.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Thanks to you. Thanks to you, we were ninety ninth.
Yesterday we hit ninety four on my ninety four That's
Crazy on Monday, shout out to the Okay Storytime Global podcast.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
By the way, Global Podcasts on Apple. That's crazy, that's crazy,
that's banana. So shout out to you guys, and go
check out the pod. You know, there's some you know,
little uh raw on uncut a little bit, so I'll
let you check that out. Anyways, getting into the end
of this exitner friends and my two ex friends seem
to have accepted the breakup quote unquotes, and I don't

(35:44):
expect them to show up knocking on my door demanding
we hang out or anything like that. Like a few
people suspected with those friends out of my life, I'm
no longer likely to even run into my ex as
I only ever saw her hanging out with those particular friends.
Might see her at the store, but that's unlikely because
I go it odd hours to do my shopping. That's it,
no big friend drama. I'm happy, My girlfriend is happy,

(36:07):
family and friends are happy. Life is gun. Thank you
for listening to me yap about my love life on
the tail end of the post that I wrote just
to work off Steve, and we're all happy. We're all happy.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I hope you have a long and prosperous relationship. Does
our boy on Reddit? Is there any updates to this?
Is still a relationship that was everything. My friend tried
to control my wedding, but I'm not backing down.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Stand up, don't say I do so.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I have a small group of friends that have been
my best friends for over a decade. But one member,
let's call her Chelsea, and I've always had some tension,
but we were there for each other when it counted,
so I could always look past the stupid crap like
her immaturity or odd paranoia when it came to any
of us hanging out without her. By the way, this

(36:56):
comes from Sion Rose nineteen ninety one on the r
slash Okay story time subreddits. So she was convinced that
if we spent time without her there, we spent the
entire gathering talking bad about her. It sounds like she
might be a little insecure. Chelsea, get some self confidence.

(37:18):
They're not talking about you, and maybe also, you're not
that important that everyone's going to be talking about you
all the time, which made little to no sense because
when we had something to say to her or about her,
we just told her, like, Chelsea, get a grip you got, bro,
We're not talking about you.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
You're not that important. Get some self esteem. Be glad,
but hi digress.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
In March, at twenty twenty one, I got engaged to
my partner of six years, Woo, and of course I
asked my three best friends to be at my bridal party,
including Chelsea, and we began the excited discussion of what
I want my wedding to look like and what bridal
party attire will be. And I look at Chelsea and
I say, I plan to have my brides maids in

(38:04):
floor length dark red gowns. But you guys can pick
whatever neckline you're comfortable with and what type of sleeves
you want if you want them?

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Okay? I know you don't really do dresses, but now
we're going to get Chelsea's response. Chelsea says, no, that's fine.
I actually love dresses, but I don't own any currently,
so I can't wear them.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I don't own dresses, so I can't wear them. It
doesn't work me.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Oh okay, cool, and we move along. So it just
sounds like I don't wear it, but I will, I
will for you, I will for you, or.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I don't have any dresses in my closet, therefore it
is illegal for me to purchase the dress to wear.
I think it's the former.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
We'll see. So fast forward to February twenty twenty two. Well,
one day, she and I were hanging out at my
house with my best friend, who up end to be
Chelsea's significant other. Wait wait, your best friend is Chelsea's
significant other.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Ooh, how close to friends are we talking? Oh, Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
That was how Chelsea and I had become friends in
the first place. Okay, connected, And now years later, Chelsea's
significant other was my matron of honor and Chelsea was
a bridesmaid, and we started talking about the wedding, and
my best friend asked what they'd be wearing. Me, Well,
you'll be in a suit, but it'll be black with

(39:34):
red and silver accents, like we talked about a year ago.
Not sure about the tiny details, but you'll be in
black because I want you to stand out as my
matron of honor. And Mike, my other best friend, is
going to be in a red suit, the same color
as the bride'smaid's dresses. A red suit kind of goes hard.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
That's a cool I'm actually loving the also dark red gowns,
super super classic. I like. I like.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, Chelsea and me too. Best friend. You two what, Chelsea,
I'm going to be in a red suit?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Me?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
No, Remember all the bridesmaids are going to be in
long red gowns. We talked about this when I first
asked you, Chelsea. No, I'm going to be in a suit.
Best friend, Chelsea, Chelsea, best friend, best friend, You're wearing
a dress, Remember, Chelsea, Maybe I'm not comfortable wearing a
dress anymore. Me and best friend? When did things change?

(40:26):
This is Chelsea? You know what. I'm not arguing with
you about this. You don't even have a date yet,
not a date for the wedding A date, right, Well, I.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Guess a date me.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
That has nothing to do with this. I've said over
and over I want my bridesmaids in long red gowns
for over a year.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Now, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Chelsea gets up and goes into my bathroom and stays
there for forty five minutes, then comes out when it's
time to leave. So later that night I messaged Chelsea
privately to talk this out with her. I told her
that we have agreed on these gowns and it's what
I wanted on my wedding day. This started a huge
argument where Chelsea told me that it was a double

(41:09):
standard to let my best friend wear suits and not
Chelsea how it was hurtful that I'd forced her to
wear a dress when she hates them, and then she
hit me with So let me ask you this. If
I was trans or mask presenting, would you force me
to wear a dress?

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Then? Big question? Big question? Big question? What do you think?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
What do you think is op being unreasonable by asking
Chelsea to wear a dress or not?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Let us know? Type in the comments below.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I think if Chelsea had said something earlier, like a
year ago, maybe it would have been fine, I think
the key yeah, because the expectation was set, the can
you have expectation was set, and then now Op He's like,
well now I'm like completely confused and I've been like
relying on this plan for a year.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
So so do you think Op's the a hole or
Chelsea's the a hole?

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Right now? I would say I would say Chelsea is
the ahle, although ultimately I don't know if like uh,
Op can like force her to wear a dress, but
I would say that Chelsea is the a hole for
you know, not kind of like it's okay if she
changes her mind, but the way she's going about I

(42:27):
think it's a completely wrong way. Yeah. I mean I
think I think like.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
If I was if I was the bride, who if
I was a bride, I don't know if I would
and I had a mixed set of people being like
bridesmaids and grooms men, kind of like on my side,
I would pro and I allowed some to wear red

(42:55):
suits and then the others to wear red dresses. I
think I would just want every and looking good together.
But I don't know if I would care if like
one of the women was wearing a suit or a
dress as long as it like fit the color scheme.
I don't know if I would try to force someone
into it. But also on the flip side, if I
was told to like wear a suit and the I

(43:19):
only have to wear a suit, then I think that
would be okay with that, And.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
I think I think Op can. Maybe I'm curious at
this is the heat of the moment. What happens like
after you know, the dust the dust settles.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, I'm right right. As of right now, I'm feeling
like everyone's an a hole right here, Like, but Op
is less than an a hole, uh for forcing, and
I think Chelsea's more of an a hole for like
making this the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I'm curious. Maybe I'm assuming that she won't ultimately, uh
like try to force her to do it. If if
she did, yeah, that would be me.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Well, if you were trans or a mask presenting, I
wouldn't have asked you to be a bride's maid at all.
If anything, I'd ask fiance if you could be a
grooms man. And my logic for that was calling a
trans man a bridesmaid would be disrespectful at least that's
how I feel personally. And for the record, we asked

(44:15):
Chelsea if she was questioning her gender identity or if
she was actually trans, and she told us a resounding no,
she was solidly as cists gendered woman. Therefore, she was
trying to use the struggles of trans people to make
me think I was being horrible and guilt me into
giving her her own way. She even got more angry
that I would make an exception for that but not

(44:36):
for her, and that my asking her to wear a
dress was the same thing as saying I hate chick
fil as homophobic practices, but give them my money anyway
because the chicken tastes good, to which I responded, I'm
going to make the argument that they are nothing alike,
and one is objectively worse because one is funding a
company who wants to eradicate an entire community people because

(44:59):
of who they The other is me saying I would
like to wear a dress if you want to be
in my bridal party, and if you refuse, that's okay,
but you'll be a guest instead. I still want you
there and in my photos and stuff.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
So yeah, I will say I am now that I
see op like continuing you stick to the guns, I'm like,
and again you know people's weddings, you know, should they
should basically be able to do what they want. Yeah,
and everything, But I am also like, what's wrong with
the with the suit? Like it sounds like it's like

(45:34):
you got a whole great vision for people who have
suits and dresses, So like, why not I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, I'm uh, yeah, I'm a little I'm a little confused.
I'm a little confused. I'm a little confused. Chelsea needs therapy. Yeah,
I think also Op is pushing it a little bit hard. Yeah,
so let's keep going. John here og host.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
We're gonna get back to these stories, but a quick
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Speaker 2 (45:56):
We went back and forth, and I continue to tell
her that I am allowed to want what I want
for my wedding and there's nothing wrong with that. And
then if she didn't want to abide by the dress code,
then I understand and that's okay, but that will mean
she'll be a guest at my wedding. She is still
wanted and welcome, and she will be front row in
my photos. And then she told me, well, I thought
you understanding that would mean that what I want and

(46:19):
my comfort level would mean more to you than what
you deem acceptable attire at your wedding. At that point,
I told her that she could let me know what
she decided. Either she was a bridesmaid or she wasn't,
but regardless, I love her and I just wanted to
squash this that we could move on. And her response was,
you really don't want me to make a decision with
the current headspace I'm in, So I told her, I

(46:42):
don't see why not. The options are wear address and
stand up at wedding or where whatever you want and
be an honored guest. The choice isn't wear the dress
or we aren't friends anymore. Yes, but it's like it's
going to hurt your it is gonna hurt your friendship.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah. I feel I feel like op is like miss
really missing the point and just like painting something in
this like very black and white thing where it's like, yeah,
well we'll make like you know what I think is
totally reasonable. Uh that Claire right is the friend Chelsea? Chelsea? Uh,

(47:22):
that Chelsea is like, hey, you know what, I honestly
I changed my mind. I don't know if I feel
comfortable in that anymore. And being like yeah, like at
least even if you don't acquiesce to that being like,
you know what, I understand, you know, but this is
my wedding and I do just kind of want that
vibe of like the all dresses like thing is what

(47:45):
I'm looking for. I don't know, what do you think?
I mean? It feels like I feel like both of
them are sticking to things that don't matter. Yes, there,
and that's why I was.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Getting into this place, because they're both like being like
a holes about it.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
They're just trying to twist the knife only each other.
It's not it doesn't feel like it's actually about the
things they're talking about. They're just trying to kind of
like pedily twist the knife on each other.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
So I almost typed. And I don't appreciate the thinly
veiled threat that is, but I know that would just
drag this out and I wanted it over. And she said,
if you change your mind, you know where I am,
or something equally noncommittal to making a decision. So I
told her that I will accept this as I appreciate
the offer, but I won't be a bridesmaid and will
instead be a guest and now we can move on.

(48:30):
I left it at that and we seemingly moved on
and honestly in full disclosure, had Chelsea come to me
and said, hey, about the dress thing, I'm not going
to be comfortable in addressed anymore? Who we explore other
options for my bridal party attire, like a suit. I
would have said yes because it was approached respectfully, but

(48:51):
she decided to try to convince me I was actually
transphobic and as bad as people who wanted a LGBTQ
her to occur because she wasn't getting her way and
she wanted to guilt me into giving her way. So no,
and we do have an update. Do have an update,
but really quick. I know we're getting absolutely shadow by

(49:16):
chat right now. Yes, but does that not show you
she's being a little bit of the A hole.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Oh like like the fact that she's like, I'm actually
open to it, but I.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
I'm open, but I don't like how she I don't
but I don't like how she asked me if I'm
not going. She didn't ask me respectfully, so I'm not
gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I mean, I wonder here's.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Which I guess is?

Speaker 1 (49:38):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
I feel like that is like a little little a
holy you know, let.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Me let me ask this if she's like essentially like, hey,
she's being difficult in a way that's just kind of
like ruining the dress and suit situation aside, She's like
kind of bringing this this negative energy and stress to
my bridal party. If that's a reason too, Like, that's

(50:04):
a great reason. Yeah, and that's a great reason. I'm
honestly like like going to me like, hey, like I'm
just like trying to if it's already stressful and I
kind of just you know, want to like like feel
feel at peace, and you're kind of just stressing me out,
I'm gonna have to respectfully, yeah, you know. And I

(50:25):
that back from the bridal party.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I I think if that was the answer that we
were just given, I would be like, okay, like that's
totally understandable. But what it feels like is it's like
you didn't ask me in a nice way. There feels
like a little bit of pettiness. Yeah, it feels like, oh,
p actually doesn't care about the dress. What she's what
she's saying is like I would be okay with a suit,

(50:48):
but she didn't ask me in a nice enough way. Yeah, right,
and like, I think that is we want everyone to
be respectful to us, obviously, but and when people are
respectful to us, we generally are more We're we're more
willing to do the things that they ask. But if
we're just being like using our power to kind of

(51:11):
put someone in their place when they're not respectful to us,
I feel and that's the only reason rather than what
John said about like the vibe the wedding being off,
Like I feel like that.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I don't. I don't like. I think that reasoning is
a little whack.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah, And I don't think it's very empathetic and I
don't think it's very kind.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah. And at the end of the day, I think
Op is entitled to do whatever she wants with her
wedding and and for her, like, is it not better
to like, honestly, at this point, do we think Chelsea
is going to make the wedding a better experience for
Op and the other people there? No, I would say no.
So I would be like, let's just get Chelsea out

(51:49):
of the wedding. Yeah, period, because you're ruining the vibe.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I think again, Chelsea I think is an a hole. Yeah.
I think Ope's behavior may have turned up the a
wholeness of Chelsea because she was kind of given some
of that same energy back. And I think from a
self preservation standpoint, if she was maybe a little a

(52:13):
little bit more nuanced in her approach, it might have
been easier. Yeah. I don't know what, Yeah, I do.
What do you agree with that?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Uh? So where do you disagree? I think? Uh? I
don't know if I yeah, I think I think there
was basically some some some pettiness there. Yeah, And it's
like like there there there's some times where it's like
you could you could have like the the more petty
interaction or on the flip side, it's like, okay, let
me just directly communicate with you. And again it's like

(52:42):
it's like, hey, not only are we uh not going
to give Chelsea and not that that's the phrasing about
just to say it, not only we're not we're going
to give Chelsea uh the option to not wear the dress,
but also I just have her not attend the wedding,
not because we want to like be petty, but to
protect your piece. If Chelsea is really like doing this

(53:03):
as a a power play or to frustrate you and
like all of that kind of stuff, And.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Again in this sentence here had Chelsea come to me
and said, Hey, about the dressing, I'm not going to
be comfortable in address anymore. I believe Chelsea did say,
like I wasn't comfortable in address, yes, So like you
could preempt this whole thing and be like, hey, are
you not comfortable, like I could help you out, yeah,
instead of giving her the same energy back. But we're

(53:29):
going to go into the rest of the story. So update.
So we decided to wait until we got out of
debt and got more financially stable. So it's still November one,
the wedding, but the year is not set in stone yet.
We're currently still not married because we decided buying a
house was more important than a wedding, but we still
fully planned to have one, and my fiance actually wants

(53:50):
the fancy wedding just as much as I do, so
we're both willing to wait. Chelsea knew we had a date,
and she knew we had decided to wait for the
above reasons. After a while, anyway, in twenty twenty one,
I lost my grandmother, who was one of the most
important people in my life. Then less than a year
I lost my grandfather, lost a couple of cousins and
an uncle, and my niece who I helped raise and loves.
My own child ended up in mental faculties for self

(54:14):
harm and unliving behavior. So I was perpetually mourning depressed
for like two years straight and this cycle has an
ended to this day. A couple months ago, I lost
a good friend to a heart condition. Oh it's been
a lot. Chelsea decided to ask my best friend for
a divorce and resulted in novella of lying, gas lighting,
and manipulation that ended up affecting all of us because

(54:36):
Chelsea left my best friend, then got back with her,
started arguments with my best friend over me, accused my
best friend and I of having an affair, and recorded
a private conversation we had so she could play it
for a friend of hers who did not like me
and who I also don't like because said friendship was
kind of to my face. Then mocked my relationship, my

(54:58):
partner a medical condition I have most recently my job
behind my back. That friend is also narcissistic. Again, I'm
getting like, I don't know, Like is this your Like
you say this person's your friend, but you're talking terribly
about them.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Well, so here's my question. Now, So this is like
I feel like we got the tip of the iceberg
with Chelsea. Now. It's like Chelsea was, uh, it was
going crazy and trying to like accuse Op of like
cheating with their partner and all this. I'm like, why,
why not only why did Chelsea get a wedding invite?
Why did Chelsea get invited to?

Speaker 2 (55:33):
And why are you still hanging out with her? Yeah,
it sounds like you're just hanging out with toxic people.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Like, like I would say to Op, it's like, you're
you're holy entitled to not have to like invite them
to the wedding or to the bridal party, So why not?
Why not protect your peace? And yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Oh, and she flew to another state to spend days
with another woman to lie to all of us about it,
to which she says that she and the other woman
are just friends and it wasn't a fair. Those were
the final straws for me. I was also already spiraling
downward mentally. My fiance even told me he was worried
I was going to hurt myself because I was getting
so bad. And I ended our friendship, probably for the best.
After I did, she admitted to my other best friend

(56:13):
that she knew I'd never had an affair with her wife.
She just said it to hurt us, essentially because we'd
accused her of having one with a woman she had
lied about flying to another state spend time with in secret.
My best friend and Chelsea are no longer together, and
in all honesty, I had started seeing a change in
her on twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, change I didn't like.

(56:34):
But when my grandma passed away in June of twenty
twenty one, I stopped caring because I needed my friends
support just to keep living. Twenty twenty three and I
still have crying fits over my grandmother because we were
so close. So this loss was profound, and dealing with
Chelsea's drama on top of everything was not something I
could do. I would like to add that Chelsea has
good qualities. Like any person, she could be kind and caring.

(56:55):
At one point, she was absolutely a wonderful friend. I
can't say why she changed for certain, as she refused
to speak to me after she left my best friend.
There are, of course, details about her and best friend
I've glossed over or left out because those are just
their stories. But this is pretty strictly just experiences pertaining
to me and what I experienced Specifically. Best friend is

(57:17):
doing better and while I'm still dealing with things. My
fiance and I couldn't love each other more if we tried,
and my best friend and I are closer than ever.
We're very supportive of each other during the current mental
and physical health journeys. My best friend is looking forward
to my wedding whenever it takes place.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Edit.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I got my revenge by getting married without her in
my life. My husband and I found out his mom
had stage four lung cancer, so we decided to do
a small, intimate wedding with just family and bridal party
instead of saving for a big, expensive goth fantasy that
we wanted. I went from gothic beauty to dark romance
and rustic. She and one of her friends stock or socials.
So I posted photos on my beautiful day with my

(57:54):
beautiful bridesmaids in their gorgeous red dresses, my bride's man
in his red suit in my maid of honor, and
all black with a dark red blouse. By the way,
you can listen to full episodes with stories just like this.
Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app
and search. Okay, storytime, there's another relevant update and I'm
gonna go straight into it, unless John, you have anything

(58:14):
you like?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Dad, what do you have talked to me?

Speaker 3 (58:17):
So Opie was friends with this girl after her grandma
died because she needed, you know, friends support.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yeah. I think it's one of those situations where it's
like Opie was going through like a lot in her
life and she's just like, I will take whoever's around
to try to help fill that like emotional hole in
her hearts. Therefore, Chelsea was just kind of like around,
even though Chelsea, it seemed, was just like a little
little cuckoo for Coco puffs and not at all the

(58:47):
best friends. And that that carried all the way into
the invites and the bridal party, which again I would
say that Opie was entitled to not have to invite
her to the wedding in the first place.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
So again, Chelsea a hole for sure. Chelsea a hole
for sure. I think maybe my designation for op is
could have handled it better, but overall not totally an
a hole, but could have handled it better. I would agree,

(59:21):
but let me know if you think I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
I know you will.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
My husband, I had an amazing day, and Chelsea never
crossed my mind once I got the wedding she wishes
she could have had, and I have the healthy relationship
she wishes she could have had, and I got to
share it with my closest friends and family members. My
husband is an amazing person and he felt just as
amazing as I did that day. I love him so much,
and we got an amazing photographer so he would have
excellent photos of our day and his mom in particular.

(59:48):
It was a big deal to me that the photographer
took extra care to photograph my husband and his mom
and siblings together. And no matter what, Chelsea can't take
this from us. She never could have because I have
my loved ones there and that's what matters. My best
revenge will always be being happy and loved and loving
my husband and family in return, and that's where it ends.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
It is. I like our last line, but with that,
I think that is a rap.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
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