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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Sam, this is John, and we are
the founding hosts of Okay Storytime podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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get into the episode.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
My late brother in law's girlfriend is trying to steal
my husband, so I shut her down. Don't let her
steal it. Be like a goalie blocket. That's right. My
female twenty five husband male twenty nine has a very
delusional sister in law, female twenty seven, who we will
call Kelly. Now. Kelly is the girlfriend and also my
dad's name. Fun fact, Kelly is the girlfriend of my
husband's late brother. They were not married, but we're allowed

(00:37):
to be called sister in law for the sake of
their four year old son. Hence the title half cooked
sister in law, not fully baked just yet. Oh man,
that is not a great title to have. By the way,
this comes from the user titled Emotional Spirit four nine three,
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay Storytime subred So Kelly was
actually a nice person at first, but her delusional tendencies

(00:59):
just go over the top. She once accused a husband
of my husbands of seducing her because, in her own words,
he was madly in love with her. Receipts maybe not.
That was never true. That was never true, as he
treated everyone the same way he treated her. My issues
with her started when she began targeting my husband and
making all kinds of unreasonable requests. She once asked him

(01:21):
to sleep in their unit because she said her son
was so scared. Hmmm, interesting, mind you, they only had
one bed and it was on the floor in the
middle of a tiny, square room, and that was the
entire unit. We asked her to just come over to
our house, which was bigger and had enough space for
her and her child to stay for a while. Since
we also had a spare room she and the child

(01:41):
could use it. She refused and insisted that my husband
come over to her instead. This is very suspicious. This
is very much giving ICU. I'm seeing it. I'm seeing
what's your ICU That maybe I'm misunderstanding the story here.
This is the half baked sister in law right, so
there's no actual like blood relation she's interested in. Kelly
wants husband, but.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Aren't they related somehow? Just just through marriage?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Right, you're okay? Not tell me if I'm wrong. Okay,
wait here, let's catch up. Yes, chat really quick. Yes.
So basically there is the husband and a sister in
law Kelly. So the sister in law is not related
to the husband, I believe. Making sure she's the girlfriend
of my husband's late brother. They are not related, there's
no connection, but husband's bro passed away. Yeah, so I

(02:30):
think she's looking for a man, and she's just like, hey,
Opie's husband, just come sleep with me in my house
every day. Just my kid is scared.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Can sleep with me enough? Then you'll actually sleep with
me enough. Yes, you know that you sleep next to me,
You'll want me. That's what I'm thinking. It's love byas Moses, Moses. Hey,
if I can't have bro, what's the next best thing you?
Katelee Pulla, Dan says very sus I see you.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. So my
husband refused and told his mom, who then had Kelly
stay at their house for a while. The second incident
was when she insisted that my husband go with her
and her child to the mall and spend some time
together because, according to her, she needed help because she's
a helpless single mother with a fatherless child and her
child needs a father figure. Bear, he's also this kid's uncle.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, so yeah, but I guess it's but I think
it's different to say, like, hang out with my kid
rather than sleep at my house.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, that's a little bit much. Leave my house is crazy. Yeah,
so maybe now it's like everything after that is like
you just keep trying to get time with my man.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, Like Ezekiel is like, sorry, we only have one
bed and the heat doesn't work. I also forgot my pegs,
so we'll have to snuggle skin to skin, Ezekiel.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
That is exactly what I think Kelly is trying to
do right now. Now. My husband asked if I could
go with them, but she made excuses as.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
To why I couldn't. There it is, that's where it gets.
That's a smoking gun. She's definitely trying to move in
on your man's m now.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
My husband then outright refused and suggested that she bring
the maid a sign to her child since my mother
in law sponsored a maide for them about after all
the things they complained about. Yeah, I feel she's she's
set up pretty straight by the mother in law.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Wait, so the mother in law hasn't made taking care
of the kid. But that doesn't take care of like
the Oh, like, I want a father figure in the
kid's life. Hire a father maid, done, hire an actor
to be the father figure. Now we're talking that, dude,
These be a service that real ideas we're putting on
the time. In Japan, they have like rented Grandpa. Why
wouldn't they have rent a father figure in America?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
That dad would go crazy.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Rented dad, rented Daddy would even go crazier. You took
the words right out of my mouth as I try
to Oh god. Now, after all of that, Kelly started
picking on things that my husband likes. He likes when
I wear skin tight dresses and leggings because they compliment
my figure. So she started wearing the same clothes. My
husband enjoys certain dishes I make for him. So she

(04:50):
started learning how to make those dishes and purposely made
them too much so she could send some to him.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Right in front of me.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh my god, smugs. She is literally trying to swoop.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
She's writing her own SOPs.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
She is she is she is making your man and operations,
so she can successfully steal your man.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Full video recordings at all. Now, it didn't stop there.
She also tries to copy me as much as possible.
When I buy something new, she buys the same thing
within three to four days. My husband and I like dogs,
so she adopts a puppy, and what do you know,
she gets one a week later. She copies everything, clothes, makeup, jewelry,
et cetera, et cetera. It was getting a little bit creepy. Dude.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Over time, you guys are gonna look the same. Yeah, like, hey,
she has jewelry. That person has jewelry twin.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Before you know it, your husband might not be able
to tell the difference. Plastic surgery, Oh dude, that's where
it gets really crazy.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
And then you slightly have pictures together and they're slightly
looking more like.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Her over time. Yeah, I don't like this at all.
And then maybe is there anything she can do to
make the wife look less like herself? Yeah, like like
replace her lamps with like UV lights so she gets
like tanner and her hair colored changes, and or like
putting hair putting hair dye in her shampoo. Like there's
so many things we could do here. I should really
stop ide eating. You're giving her too many IM giving
her way too many tips. But then one day at

(06:06):
a family gathering, she outright stated that my husband's nephew,
her child, looks so much like my husband and could
pass off as his kid. My husband looks nothing like
his nephew. His nephew literally has his late father's face.
It's like it's copied and pasted. And I'm guessing husband
and the brother didn't look look like a different It
looks different than a nephew. Meanwhile, my husband and his

(06:26):
brother look nothing alike. I blurted out a very audible no,
they don't, which was followed by my husband's sister saying,
are you blind? They look nothing alike. I would say
he has his father's face, but then Kelly responds, actually,
people would mistake them for father and son. Is she
trying to insinuate, like you look like his dad in fidelity?
Like you look so similar to my kid, it's almost

(06:50):
like he is your child. That's interesting, dude, Is this
the first time in Okay Storytime podcast history where it's
a like a reverse DNA test. It's like it's not
the child his child but she wants everyone to think
think it is, and now they have. Now he has
to get a DNA test to prove that it's not
his kid, reverse paternity tests in the story, that's I

(07:12):
would love to see crazy well. She then proceeded to
whip out her phone and show a wallpaper of my
husband and nephew smiling together. She came prepared. I looked
at the phone, then at her. Oh, is this why
you've been trying to get my husband's attention this whole time? Confused,
my mother in law asks, what do you mean? I
casually said, well, why don't you ask Kelly? She's been
trying to get my husband alone with her for some time. Now,

(07:34):
good thing, your son's not an it.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
In front exposing family, exposing it, showing it in the light,
showing this weird behavior in the light.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Is this a good idea? I think this is too much,
and I think it's an emotional reaction because she keeps
being pushed and pushing pushed. Yeah, not that it justifies
it at all.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I mean she's the one, the sister in law
is the one pushing like that is is Kelly needs
to stop? Kelly needs to stop. I wonder if this.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Is just going to bring more drama to Opie because you're.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Doing crazy things around crazy people, it's just gonna escalate.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
The crazy person will always be crazier than you.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's that's a bar right there. That is a Barry.
What did you say again? I literally just forgot.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I think Sam said it better. The crazier person will
always do something crazier than you.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, absolute facts. So then Kelly shouts, what the heck
is your problem? I was just trying to give my
son some normalcy and experience and having a family and
a father, so I said, by trying to take my
husband oo ooh, can do that? Can do that? You're
a home wrecker in the making, a stalker and a creep.
No wonder, no one would date you. God, your child

(08:41):
will be better off without this witch of a mom
in his life. I yelled back at her. All right,
all right, Opie, you're it's a little bit too much.
I don't know. I don't know if this is going
to end well getting right to it, but yeah, you
and you are saying the truth, Opie? Is is the
truth need to be said? She a living one. My
I'd say a little too authentically. Yeah, maybe a little

(09:03):
bit too Yeah, maybe keep some of those thoughts to yourself. Oh.
So I stood up, thanked everyone for their time, and
proceeded to leave with my husband. On the way home,
my husband told me what I said wasn't nice. I
asked if he was defending her. He said no, He
agreed that Kelly deserved to be told off, but not
in a humiliating manner and definitely not in front of
the kids.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Oh, that was in front of the kids. The whole
family was in fornt of the kids.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Literally everyone was there and she's just going crazy, which
but I think husband had a great response. It's like, yes, uh,
sister in law needs to be said straight, but not
that way in front of the kids and the family.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Your poison Tonic says she got a backbone, and like, yes,
but a backbone in the wrong arena at the wrong moment.
I think I think it is important to set a
boundary and say something, yes, for sure, but say it
one on one, not around kids that are gonna like,
hear this terrible show about their mother, and uh, maybe
say it in a little like criticize the action rather
than like her dating life.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, and then two, it's like, now you know you
you probably want support from like a mother in law
and everyone else in the family. Now they're looking at
you like, well, you're acting kind of crazy. Maybe you're
the real problem, and exactly not going to support you
and trying to, you know, fix this whole Kelly issue.
If you don't have context, you look worse, yes, exactly.
And he's looking that great, pretty bad, right, that great.

(10:19):
Now I'm here typing on the toilet. I just really
couldn't take her to Lulu self anymore. So that's why
I exploded. So am I the a hole? By the way,
sorry if this is confusing. English really is my first
language and I'm still learning. And we have an update.
But let's answer Opie's question. Is Opie the a hole?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I think with the outbursts, Opie became the a hole.
Was not the a hole before up until like at
that moment, Yeah, took on a little a.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Holary your poison. Tonic in chat is saying everyone's an
a whole lmao. I think sister in law Kelly definitely
an a hole with how she's been trying to encroach.
You know, I will say this doesn't this does not
at all co sign her behavior, but like losing her husband,
she's raising a kid. I feel like she is trying
to look for something, but it's just like, it's so
you cannot do that. It's it's so bad trying to

(11:07):
steal someone else's relationship. Yeah, particularly your brother in law
who's already married. Like yeah, just absolutely insane. But I
do feel for her a little.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Bit on Yeah, Yeah, and I think there's there maybe
there's some grace that should be given to her. But
I also feel like OPI has given her a ton
of grace.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah. Again, Opie should definitely entitled to lay down the law,
just not quite in the way she did it. Yeah,
and chat's voting as well, or not the ahle or
not the A hole? We want to know.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
We have one volt for a whole and four votes
for not the A hole. Chad might Chad might be
saying not the A hole. We're over here saying the A.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Hole, though so far they're saying not the ale. Yeah,
that's what you're saying. So far.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
You might disagree, but let us know what y'all think.
Put your answers below how much.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Below, But we've got the snicked updates Thanks for all
the comments on the votes. This is gonna be a
little update on what happened in the past few hours.
I get where I maybe they he's a self classifying,
but what the feelings I had, it was just not
possible to hold back. I have anger issues, though they've
gone down a bit because I got some help, and
I also have the support of my husband, but there
are times where I just can't control it. My husband

(12:14):
and I had a little talk about the incident. He
said I wasn't wrong in correcting her, but I was
wrong in insulting her. Agreed, great greed. I agreed. He
was just a little disappointed with I handled the situation,
letting my anger take control of me. As for my
mother in law, she called us and asked if I
was okay. She did reprimand me for my actions, but
was also sympathetic to the fact that I was offended
by Kelly. She asked if Kelly and I could come

(12:36):
over and have a talk to straighten things out and
see if Kelly needs any help. Another W move.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
That is a W move, yes, because she I mean again,
if we're looking at this behavior and getting a little
curious about what's going on, behind the behavior. This person's
probably struggling massively and this is yes, a misguided way
to act out and find support. But at the end
of the day, this person just wants support. She just
she just needs she needs someone for her son, someone

(13:04):
for herself, and maybe giving her a support structure will
help her act out in less of a weird way.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
What's gonna get? What's the ultimate solution we're trying to get?
Have Kelly stopped like Badi and the husband. This seems
like a path there. This definitely seems like a path there.
Mother in law explained that while Kelly's actions might not
be favorable, her situation is something to feel pity for.
Mother in law believes that losing her son, Kelly's husband
ish and having to take care of a child alone
was too much for her. That's why she asked if

(13:31):
I would be willing to talk to Kelly and explain
to her why what she did wasn't okay. If Kelly
refuses to listen, mother in law said that she would
have to handle it herself. Again, great w mother in law. Dude,
mother in law is crushing it. This is this might
be the best mother in law okay. Storytime mystery. I
mean this is this is off the charts here, I
mean yeah, and she's also like offering to be like

(13:52):
an arbitra. Yeah, of like, what's going on here? A
little liaison? This is great, This is great. Ask for
my husband. He understands I'm not if I'm not ready
to face Kelly, but thinks that it would be the
better option. He suggested that we go low contact with
her for a while, not completely cutting her off, for
the sake of the child, because remember that's still his nephew.
Ot the day, both of them.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, and again another cash money move right here, low
contact over no contact. You have a you know, tiered
boundaries with that kind of stay.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Must be a fan of the show. Yeah, they're doing everything,
all the core tenants. I'll update you guys if anything
else happens. And oh Sam, yeah, oh there's updates. See.
The thing is this next part isn't an update? Ohlway?
Is it from the other other signment from Kelly? No way,
Kelly has entered, the sister in law has entered. Oh
I love these. I love it.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
It feels like the Timmy Turner Jimmy Neutron crossover.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
You know, dude, it's always they're rare, but when they happen,
it's it's.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Always a rise. I am so excited. Well, well, what
are your thoughts do you think? Do you think Ope
is overreacting and Kelly actually has some truth to what
she's like? You know, maybe we've only gotten one side.
And the person who's saying I'm not crazy it's actually crazy.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Is Opie's husband actually secretly in love with Kelly and
Ops just you know, getting in the way. Yeah, yeah,
walking because you guys think Op's the a hole right
a little bit?

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yes, yeah, right now, both parties are the a hole,
and op made an a hole move towards the end.
We understand why that happened, you know, like maybe there's
there's justified a holary, but a holary nonetheless.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
If that's the case, Kelly's probably gonna make a lot
of sense, and we're probably gonna side with Kelly.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Oh I don't know, at least right now, I'm not
sure if I'm going to side with Kelly, but we'll see.
I would be impressed. I would be impressed.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I would be impressed, As says Sam, just had a
full body Oh darn too. Not the first time with
that that's true. That's true. Just by thinking, just by thinking,
that's right, that's right, y'all, true fans will know about
the genre street.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, mine's coming up next. Yeah oh yeah yeah, John
signed up. There we go. Dude, man, we're both going
to be owen in the cities chairs. I'm going to
be centered in a few months. Guys, just you eight.
All right, let's get into this next part with response
from sister in law Kelly. So sister of Kelly here.
Oh sorry, this is Kelly's sister. Oh, Kelly's sister. Okay,
you know, still reddit Christmas the other side, still from

(16:11):
the other side, but not like, not as Christmas y.
But we're gonna get Kelly's perspective, hopefully, hopefully. I don't
think Lexi is the a hole here. I think that's
you're talking about, Opie. My sister has been a nuisance
to everyone. You think she did all that because she's grieving.
Heck no, she's been cheating on her boyfriend even before
he passed away.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh oh, dude, cheating on a guy and that's passed
away is so much worse.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, that's that's some context right there. Yeah, she even
wants to terminate the pregnancy because she doesn't know who
the father might be. Oh yo, so but she lucked
out because the kid looks like her passed away boyfriend.
The witch even went out of her way to steal
my boyfriend, so she's been stealing herself friend as well. Pattern.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Wow, at least she's bad enough at it that it
doesn't seem that successful or rate is low at least,
although although to go after your family significant others is like,
that's like that's cheating on hard mode.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
It's a ultimate final boss.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
It's a final vas. So you know, maybe she does
have game at lower level.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Now. The last straw was my ex fiance, whom she
eft after the passing away of her boyfriend. That's is
that that's better? Is it? Still? I guess it's not?
Is it cheating? Still? I mean that is the questioning,
would you.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Rather be cheated on like when you were before you died,
before you passed away, or after you pass this.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Letter of the law versus spirit of the law. Letter
of the law. Yeah, it's not cheating spirit of the law.
What the are you? Yeah? You need a little water period?
How long after how long? It's not even the time,
it's it's her. It's she slept with her sister's ex fiance.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Her sister's ex fiance right after after the death. I
just heard ice episode right after death. Didn't even hear
ex fiance. That's double bad.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, wow, yeah, wow, yeah, oh my god. After that,
none of the family members would talk to her, not shocking.
They actually cut her off completely. Man, I, on the
other hand, did keep tabs on her. She's crazy. Op,
tell me what time you're going to meet with mother

(18:29):
in law in that witch, I'm gonna be going in
with you. Ooh, so now we're going to some revenge.
Kelly's sister is like, you know, I'm coming in and
back up for you, Like I'm on your team. Wow.
We do have some realivant comments. Any conspiracy theory predictions
on what's gonna happen in this meeting? Oh? I mean,

(18:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I'm like, what what do you say to someone whose
first reaction to their significant other passing away is let
me just rifle through the trash of my sister's most
important relationships and do a little little post post funeral hookup.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Like, I mean, it's absolutely insane.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I don't know whether this is someone can that can
be spoken to.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
And I wonder if mother in law or other people know.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, this almost feels like, hey, we're we're we are
against pettiness, you know, we're against the public flaming. But
at certain point, someone is so prolific, someone is such
a philanderer that you need to do a public PSA yeah,
to say warning, do not go near this, this is
a fire, this is poison.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Please.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
And I think we've gotten to that level here break
glass in case of cheating emergency.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, And we have.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Gotten to the breaking class. We've gotten to the caution tape.
We've gotten to the place where we need to say, hey,
you know, bottle label poison.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yes, I agree, I think at this point, And honestly,
I do wonder if mother in law knows, because now
now before it's like oh dude, w move my mother
in law. Now I'm like, I feel like this is
almost like we had this in a story yesterday where
it's like if you sometimes when you stay neutral, it
actually sides with the aggressor.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
You know, if you see this kind of behavior again
and again, yes, and you're not protecting the people that
are getting hurt by it, then you're really just supporting
the perpetrator.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Of Yeah, that evil.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
So, as Eagle says Sam, maybe that's how she agrees
when I'm sad, spicy sleep definitely makes me feel better that,
you know, get a jigglo or something like just.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Someone's not Wait wait wait, wait wait what jigglo gigglow, gigglow.
It's a male spicy spicy worker. Oh I thought that
was what's the thing in fiction?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
A gamp a gamp? Different, different but different, potentially same energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, anyway, we've.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Got some real comments. Your voice why.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Says she grieves with her legs wide open, colored heart
open legs.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Hey, to get over someone, you gotta get under one,
get six feet under. The guys stoping so hard. It's
getting hot in here. Okay, anyway, let's get into these comments.
So comment number one, My brother in law passed away
and my sister in law attempted to take my husband too.
What is the thing? Apparently all the kids are doing it.

(21:29):
He almost fell for it in his grief over losing
his brother. The fact that your husband is standing his
ground is good. That is the craziest way to say.
My husband nearly cheated. H he almost fell for it.
It's crazy. That's crazy. Meet with Kelly and the mother
in law. Then limit your contact with her, but set
up a visitation schedule with the child and your husband,

(21:52):
because that is a relationship that will matter going forward,
and you should be the one who does the pickup
and drop offs, not your husband. What do we think
on that planet? Quick? Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
So it's like, hey, let's have a relationship with this kid,
but you are not touching growing anywhere near my house.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Schedule to see the nephew, and I am basically the
wall between you and my husband. I like it. I
like it. I like it. I like it like a lot.
Comment turn number two. Everyone sucks here, especially Kelly. Oh god,
Obviously Cistern Lawn is a huge ahole, and she's embarrassing
and desperate. She may need mental health assistance since her
strange obsession is increasing, that is true. Let's see if

(22:27):
we can get her some mental health.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, oh god, sheeds wow.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Like all over twenty four to seven for a while,
the premium package, the plan yeatin therapy. You did mishandle
the situation, and you were unnecessarily cruel about it, and
it absolutely was inappropriate in front of kids, especially hers. Agreed.
We said that. We said that, indeed, this sounds including
your attack on her like some trashy Jerry Springer, low class,

(22:54):
race to the gutter, have some dignity. Your husband is right?
All right? Well that was that was a little harsh.
But I do agree with the points. Yes, I do
agree with the points too. There's a reply. But husband
should have shut that crap down a long time ago.
He didn't. She did not the a hole. I think, like,
especially where has the husband been, especially after OPI points

(23:16):
it out, like, Yo, your sister in law is like
trying to get in with you. You got you gotta
shut that down, like you know, or like let's do
something here.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't know, like, yeah, why hasn't the husband been
vocal and putting boundaries up?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
And maybe he did, but it did something, but we
we haven't really gotten a good description.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I mean, it could be the classic oh my husband
is completely oblivious, which we've seen before.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, or maybe he like feels bad because it's like, hey, yeah,
her her husband ISSU passed away. It definitely is a
complicated dynamic for the husband for sure, because again it's
his brother's kid. He wants to make sure he maintained
some kind of relationship, but definitely like this should have
been something. Yeah, another reply, how is Opie desperate if
it's sister in law who's fishing for a new baby

(24:02):
daddy inside of the family, not the ahole. And now
we're getting into the updates.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
And this is the update from original op uh, not
from the.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Sister in law sister. We're back to OPE and I
think this is the point where we're going to have
the you know, the internet the G six convention. Yeah,
everyone meeting together and coming to the final conclusion. What
do we do with sister in law kem Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
And again is the sister in law sister going to
come in with OPE and you know, fight some power.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Literally her her own soldiers are just shooting for the
other side. What's going on? Let's get into this update.
So I finally have an update for you guys. I
went out to speak with mother in law and Kelly.
She brought her kid along with my husband and Kelly's
sister Kayla, and Kelly's friend and neighbor Pat. This all
happened at mother in law's house. Ohbaby dot dot might

(24:56):
shorten some of the parts. To those who were wondering
about father in law, he passed away do due to
the vid Pat is Kayla's connection to Kelly and her
husband's nephew. And again that is the neighbor in Kelly's sister.
Also trigger warning about the things that I'm about to mention.
Also to those who said it's not real, I really
wish it wasn't so these things wouldn't be true, but
they are. I even thought this kind of thing only

(25:17):
happens on TV shows are on Family Court, Judge Judy
or Jerry Springer, maybe doctor Phil. And again, sorry if
this is confusing, I am besiyah and not really great
in English grammar. I hope I said that right. So
for starters, mother in law asked us about the incident
and why it led to me name calling Kelly. But
let us know that everything is being recorded by her,
which is honestly good because you can get into this
arena where it's like I didn't see that you said that,

(25:40):
and you know, you get like to gaslighty phrases and
having something that it's like, let the record show what
was said by be good, this is what was said.
I told her that it may not be obvious to her.
But Kelly has been openly trying to get my husband's attention,
like how she wants him over at her house, and
how she wants him to go somewhere with their only
the three of them, to make it see as though
they're a perfect family. Kayla snorted, laughing at the perfect

(26:04):
family comment and said, really, I thought you already have
a guy for that. Wasn't his name David or was
it Michael? Oh wait, it's got to be Rashid, you know,
the Indian guy you introduced your son to. That comment
got my mother in law's attention. There's a lot of
a lot of the roadtanning door. She asked Kayla what
she meant by that, to which Kayla said, do you

(26:24):
know why Sam late brother in law didn't want to
marry her missus mother in law? Is the cheating that
they knew about? It's because he knew of all her
cheating escapades. Oh that's smart boy. Yeah, honestly, basically, it
say like Lokia sounded like together for the co parenting. Yeah.
And furthermore, Sam was my ex whom she stole by

(26:48):
opening her legs. Oh oh, so this was the fiance
the ex fiance that she slept with after the funeral. Oh,
Kayla is unleashing, which I feel like honestly, being family
makes I feel like she can do it a little
bit with more impunity than op he could.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Oh yes, yeah, sister unleashing or unloading. Oh god, she's
had already. We got to decrease the loads.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Mother and law then looked at Kelly, to which she
said it wasn't true and the reason why he won't
marry her is because of Kayla, because Kayla was seducing
her husband. Again, that is Kelly's sister, I believe. Sister
in law chimed in to say, in which part are
you his wife? You claim my brother is your husband,
and yet you're the reason why he passed away? What

(27:37):
brother in law passed away of a heart attack after
a very heated argument between them where she threatened to
take the child and forbid him from ever seeing the kid.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Oh wow, I don't know if we can say you're
the reason, yes, because that's a little you know, the
real reason is that that little ticker, you know, you know,
maybe not doing enough cardio or something.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Is there is there a correlation? Yes, it looks like it,
but is there causation. I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I don't know if I want to go that far,
you know, the like I guess the thing is, you
have so much to go off of and so many
valid points, you know, I don't know if you need
to bring in things that are a little bit more conjecture.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
But oh my god, maybe if you weren't cheating on
him with five different guys, Yeah, his heart would feel
a little bit better, he would have a little stress.
But oh, wow, you've destroyed his HRV. Well, you've destroyed
Sam's HRV. We finally figured out what it was. So
in our country, if the child is below seven, he

(28:42):
has to stay with the mother unless the mother is
no longer capable of taking care of him. Wow, so
Kayla shouted back. He was only waiting for the child
to be at least seven years old to get him
off your filthy, abusive claws. In all the chaos, mother
in law is just sitting there and shocks by all
of them revelations happening in front of her. She thought
that she could redeem Kelly's character in the talk, but

(29:05):
turns out there's no redeeming qualities in her. So that's
when her sister Kayla said something about Kelly abusing the
young son. She said that she just couldn't hold it
and then hit Kelly, which made Kelly fall over. WHOA,
this is getting way overheated right now. I'm not mentioning
abuse of the kid went through. It's quite horrific and
will only be available to the lawyer. Kelly shood up

(29:28):
with tears of anger and said, fine, you want that
beaster of a child, you can have him, swallow him
up if you can. I don't need any extra baggage
with me and took off, leaving the child in mother
in law's care. She's like the worst, she is, She's
the worst, worst, She's the worst. But again, maybe this
is the best thing that could happen. I think so,

(29:51):
And I think the family needs to huddle together and like,
you know, we need to. We need to help and
heal nephew. We have to. You know, it takes a village.
Let's let's band together as a family to to help
help raise nephew and focus on that. And just I
think for now we need we need to cut off
contact from Kelly as much as possible to focus on

(30:13):
healing the child and working together as a team as
a family. Yeah, to figure this all out.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Sophia ben A Zoo says, thank god this is recorded
that is to be used to get custody.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
That is so true. I get custody for sure. That
is so true, Sophia. That's definitely uh not capable of
handling child. That is absolutely falling under that category. Mother
in law almost also had a heart attack after everything
had happened. She was so mad that she had been
the reason why this has been going on. In her words,

(30:46):
I encourage her to stay for the sake of the child.
I should have filed for custody even before we told
her it wasn't her fault. So basically mother in law
was kind of blaming herself. Like here, I was like
trying to like work with her and keep her included
when we should of like got her out of there,
protected the child and you know, kept moving. But like
like Opie said, it wasn't it wasn't her fault. She
didn't even know. She was just concerned about the child

(31:08):
since he has lost his father. But after that, mother
in law hauled up her lawyer friend and asked for
help getting custody of the child. She is now on
the process of filing for custody with the basis that
the mother is a danger to the child and had
and had Kayla and pat as wisnesses. This is great,
This is great, Thank god. This is the absolute best
case scenario. As i'veless says, yes, yep, this is what

(31:31):
needs to be happening. We also had a therapist schedule
for the boy another fantastic review to help him process
everything that's currently happening and for him to recover. My husband,
on the other hand, wanted to get the child and
adopt him as his own after everything settles down. I
have to say, I love how the family's uniting to
make sure this kid is okay. Yeah, like shout out

(31:52):
to everyone, but this is a insanely traumatic scenario for
the child and and everyone involved, but mostly mostly the child,
and everyone is like doing their part here, which I loved.
This is amazing. This might be my last update, but
we'll be posting if anything comes up. Thank you Internet
strangers for letting me share this very unusual and crazy
situation I had. And we do have update number two coming. Wait,

(32:14):
we have another update. It's not over. We still got
a good like thirty percent of the story left here.
Oh my god, yeah, oh my god. I mean that
last update was a bombshell. I can only imagine what
the next one is.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yes, I also have been seeing people having issues with
the TLDR. Should we give a quick TLDR for for
everyone right now?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
So quick TILDR. Basically, there's this crazy sistern law. At first,
she was trying to steal Opie's husband. That's why I
kind of kicked all of us off. Opie got mad
at her, said some things she should know what was
kind of mean. But turns out that the cistern Law
has been cheating left and right, stealing everyone's man, and
also had a very bad situation with her taking care
of the child if you catch what I'm saying. So basically,

(32:57):
they had a big family meeting all of this got exposed.
Now the family is coming together, rallying to protect the
child and basically pushing Kelly, the crazy sister in law,
out of their lives. Great, so it looks like we're
on the path to the absolute best possible situation. Yeah,
have the kid.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, and I think you know, exposing this all to
the family in the correct setting, yes, was perfect, Like
that's what should have been done.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yes, you know what.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I think what op did before was just blurted out
emotionally and then it kind of didn't do anything. But
then when there was a actual moment of hey, let's
get these people together and talk about and arbitrate like
what is happening, the crazy came out. Yeah, and then
it could be dealt with in a in the proper way.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
And you know, mother in law was beating herself up
about it, but it's like, hey, this all wouldn't have
happened if you hadn't have scheduled this. So shout out
to mother in law. Let's get into update number two.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Hey, it's Sam. We're going to get back to these stories.
But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
So I'm making this post to address people's concerns and
also talk about what happened after the filing for custody
for the people asked if Kayla and Patt knew about
Kelly's abuse of the child, why didn't they report it? Well,
they actually did. Kayla was the one who reported it
after Pat told her she even had pictures. However, after
she reported it, the officer did a welfare check and
didn't find anything. Kelly explained that the kid was just

(34:18):
clumsy and that was a result of it. They believed
the statement without asking the kid and left without further investing.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
What kind of check in is that that you're not
doing your job?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Literally literally completely useless. Furthermore, Kelly had filed for harassment
against Kayla. What again? This is the crazy sister in
law filing for harassment against her sister who's like, yeah,
trying to help fix this insane situation. So pat was
the only way that Kayla could keep tabs on the
kid in Kelly the neighbor. She documented everything along the way.
We also found out that Kelly was toxic to Sam,

(34:53):
accusing him of cheating and even laying hands on him.
The guy was too nice to ever do anything back
to her. Guess they got that from their mom. The
cheating part, though, might be from their dad. He cheated
on mother in law multiple times, twice when she was pregnant,
oh gee, with Fredlund, the husband's sister, and again when
she miscarried a due to finding out about father in

(35:15):
law's infidelity. Oh dude, God, like the nicest people with
just the most nuclearly toxic people just.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Being insane yea, And I think that's when you know,
like you're super nice and don't have boundaries, that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
It's like you just get wrecked. They'll keep infiltrating because
they can, because they can stop all over your boundaries.
Keep them up later, Keep them up. For those who
asked how brother in law passed away, I didn't mean
he passed away then and there. He was hospitalized after
suffering from the heart attack and later passed away. Brother
in law wasn't really the type to follow his diet,
which might explain why his health declined so rapidly. While hospitalized,

(35:51):
we found out that he was diabetic as well as
a result of a very unhealthy lifestyle. He drank soda
like it was water, rarely ate anything healthy, and mostly
lived on fast food. I mean that paints some context.
He also didn't take his meds on time because he
believed that they would make him pass away. One now
for the events after the custody final husband's sister, Fredlund

(36:13):
and her husband came to our house for a visit.
We all had a little talk while the brother in
law had a word with my husband. According to my husband,
he was asked why he never stopped Kelly's crazy antics
from the beginning. Remember that question we asked the beginning
of this episode, like why didn't the husband Yeah, I
feel like he Like we were like, couldn't he be
more vocal exactly like a brother in law did when

(36:35):
she started flirting with him. Well, my husband replied that
he thought Kelly was just a grieving widow with a
fotherless child. He didn't want to offend her, assuming that
it was just her way of coping with the loss.
So I guess the argument is, like, if she's actually
not flirting and just like trying to that, would he
find a connection that would be like pretty pretty painful? Yeah,
to which I think is fair. Yeah. Yeah, Again, it's

(36:57):
a very tough situation. Maybe at that point you can
sault with wife and you're like, hey, I'm between a
rock and a hard place here. I feel like she's
learning with me, But I also don't want to accuse
a grieving widow of trying to sleep with me, so
I agreed any advice, to which I replied, so you
really aren't in it? Just a little bit classic case
of the slightly or not so slightly oblivious husband. We've
seen it before. He was a little offended, but he

(37:19):
accepted it, saying that he should have stopped things as
soon as they started getting too ak. Sister in law
also talked to me about the kid. She asked us
not to adopt him as it might cause complications in
the future. I asked her why since the child didn't
inherit the sins of his mother. She said that might
be true, but choosing not to adopt him and leaving
him with mother in law would be the better option

(37:40):
as it wouldn't feel any more of Kelly's crazy and
toxic behavior. Is that?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
I mean, I think the mother in law is just
as good an option as ope.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
And yeah, but like but is that true? Maybe Kelly
is so cuckoo for cocoa puffs that it's like something
like she's like, Oh, first you tried to my man
away from me, now you're taking my child. Maybe yeah,
maybe maybe I wish we had more insight onto like
again like maybe yeah for the child TENRILLI in percent

(38:11):
and then for the family too, yes, yeah, which hopefully
she would be able to get that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Well, I think we have enough, we have enough evidence
for it. Absolutely, Yeah, I think you get to adopt
the kid and it would be fine.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, yeah, Obi says I told her I would discuss
it with my husband and consider all of the factors
at play. And if you want to consider that, we
have two thousand full episodes that you can binge to
your heart's content. So many go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts
or your favorite podcast app search. Okay, sorry, time to
binge those right now, or I'm gonna be angry. I'll

(38:43):
have two thousand pounds of anger thrust upon her. But Sam,
before we get into the finale of this story, do
we obviously a horrific thing that's happened. Are we feeling
good about the family's new plan to, you know, protect
the kid and kind of work together. There's a team
moving forward. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I mean, regardless of whether the kid falls in the
mother in law's hands or Ope's hands, I think the
kid is going to be in a much better spot.
I think the family is now communicating finally, so I'm
pretty happy with where we're ending. I mean, this is
ending much better where we started. Most Definitely, the kid's
going to be better. The crazy person is going to

(39:25):
be removed from this situation. I think we're we're going
to better better past years now.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, and it seems like there's like mother in law,
there seems to be a lot of people that are
like really trying to do the right thing and executing
on it, living up to their word. Yeah, so let's
get into the final part of the story, all right,
Opie says, So, first thing tomorrow, I'm going to talk
things over with my husband. I just hope he understands
and will consider system law suggestion. Wish me luck. I'll
update as soon as I can with what's happening. Also,

(39:50):
I think I might be pregnant. Oh, there's a lot
going on. The plots ending like and we just close
it up. No huge plot.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Twist, and I think it's my husband's what.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Loving Riley's comments on today's episode, I haven't had my
period for three days now, and I'm really craving mango
dipped vanilla ice cream with chili toppings. Oh yeah, you're pregnant. Yeah,
guaranteed my mom was a foot long meatball subs. But
that's it. Still I'm gonna physically what where did that

(40:34):
come from? It's been a minute. Your Bob said, uh,
chat pulled me out, just going that is that? Is that?
The end? Of this episode. The end of the story,
Well where we got we got another story?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Cuffing, cuffing right up? Some might say a foot long,
we got we got one more, we got one more?
Are you ready for this next story? My sister last
pregnancy is suspicious and I can't help but gossip about it.
I twenty two female. I have an older brother, John

(41:10):
thirty two male, who has been with his fiance Jane
thirty female for four years. They have a four month old.
Jane found out she was pregnant at five and a
half weeks and immediately called my mom to tell her.
My mom was confused, but still very excited. Okay, by
the way, this comes from Throwaway Gosha. Darn it and
if you want us to make your own stories, go
to our slash Okay storytime.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Stow about it.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
So, Jane said she was going to tell John when
he got back from his work trip, tell John about
the baby. A few hours later, she called again, sobbing,
saying she has insatiable cravings. Mom made a joke like,
isn't it a bit early for cravings? So maybe suspicious

(41:51):
suspicious timing of the baby, and Jane went off at
her She started yelling about how this was her pregnancy
and no one else's. It was an odd reaction. She
also apologized for outburst by blaming it on hormones. When
my brother returned from his trip, him and Jane left
to stay at her mother's and we didn't see her
until after the baby was born.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Also PREDI to see cravings usually arrive around five to
eight weeks during the first trimester.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Okay, the time I matches, the time I'm matches, the
time I'm matches.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
John said this was because Jane was afraid of losing
the pregnancy and wanted to be with her mom, and
we needed to respect the boundaries. But I feel like,
you know, there's there's some suspiciousness, suspiciousness going on. Whenever
someone would ask about Jane or the baby, they would
shut it down with vague answers, like every pregnancy is different,
or she's caring small, which isn't unusual. They barely shared

(42:42):
anything about the pregnancy, no ultrasound pictures, no baby shower,
and Jane didn't want anyone around during the delivery.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh why, like for what.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I also discovered that every craving she listed came from
one article about pregnancy cravings even listed multiple items in
the same order as the article.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Bro at least like you get to talk with chat
and get just change the variation a little bit.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
When the baby was born, we were finally allowed to
seeing Jane and John and the baby. Of course, it
was very bittersweet, as we all wish we could have
been there for Jane to help out, but Jane and
John both assured us we did help out by staying
away during the pregnancy. The weirdest part, though, is how
Jane describes the birth. She claims she had an epidural
via IV drip into her hand edited because I didn't elaborate,

(43:33):
which is not how those are administrated. Isn't it like
in the spine.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah, they go straight to the spine, straight to the spine,
which we know because we're women experts.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
We're women experts now inside joke, I guess not that
inside it was. It was on the public stream when
I asked clarifying questions, thinking she had gotten confused, which
is understandable, she shut down and refused answer, like how
she would during the pregnancy. So what are our conspiracy
theories here, gentlemen?

Speaker 2 (44:00):
I mean, there's the big fake elephant in the room,
which is there is no pregnancy and no baby. Okay, okay,
but there's a baby.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Well we only saw a pregnant at five weeks and
usually have five weeks. No one's really that showing and
then they didn't see him.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
So is this baby a surrogate baby? Is this baby adopted?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
What do I want to know? Your conspiracy theories? Two
for two? A fair baby, a fair baby. But wouldn't
she be carrying that baby? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
She she's lying. They're saying a baby is adopted. There
is a baby. Yeah, there's definitely a baby. Also, what's
the motive? Like, why is she trying to lock him down?
Like what would incentivize her to do this? Maybe she
wants people to think that the adopted baby is her
real baby mm or or.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
We flip it on its head and op, he's just jealous.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah maybe that. Maybe that Maybe that too, dude. But
to continue, she said the baby had latching issues because
he was born with no umbilical cord stump. Can tech
for me happen, but it's a rare and fatal medical
condition that their baby does not have. So like a
no belly button baby, you don't have an umbilical stump,
So you don't know. The final straw was when she

(45:11):
told us that the baby basically fell out of her
within an hour of being in labor, despite my brother
telling us how hard the birth was and even stating
that was why they weren't going to try for any
more kids. So the brothers in on it too. The
brothers in on it too? What is keel Bo says?
Some women are very sensitive to infertility issues. Okay, hazy leaf,

(45:33):
she's infernal and ashamed. Nick's adopted a fair baby. I
don't know about that one. I don't know if the
math math is maths. Oh oh oh, John had an affair,
knocked someone else up, took that a fair baby, and
then placed it over here.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Because John is kind of acting weird too.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
John's acting. They're all acting weird. Kat, you have no
belly button?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Where'd he go? Where do he goes? You get it?
Tommy talk? Is that possible? I think you get to
Tony talk. Mom almost didn't have a belly button after
getting a tummy tuck. Yeah huh.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
So people would rather remove the belly button than have
a belly button.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I mean, like after your I mean belly buttons are cool,
but like eat it. Well, how are you gonna do
belly button shots? I think that's a really important question.
The last time you did a belly button shot? I
mean last Tuesday, not like that long ago, like definitely
this year. But you don't need a belly wait off yourself? No, no,
but then you know it's always off person. Yeah, okay, And.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
And also like I don't I don't want to. I
don't want to have a belly button shot and balance.
So like if you do a shot off someone else,
then they have to do a shot off you, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Anyway, enough about belly button shots, back to the story.
Hey y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get
back to the stories, but here's a quick three minute
break from ask form response.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Mom is on the same side as me and has
been noting this inconsistency and inaccuracies, but doesn't know how
to bring it up, and their reactions don't help. A
few days ago, my brother their texted Mom saying her
doubt of Jane is disrespectful and they both want full
apologies from both of us for bullying Jane about her
pregnancy slash labor. I haven't made any outright accusations about it,

(47:10):
nor have I said any of this to Jane. I've
only asked questions when she brings the birth slash slash
pregnancy up. Am I the a hole for having some doubts?
Definitely is ob Yeah, definitely not.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, I mean like it's so it's so weird, and
she like flips out anytime anyone asks like wait, so
you have like an epidural in your hand, It's like, nah,
I mean I feel like these are normal, like baby questions,
like how long was the thing?

Speaker 1 (47:32):
And it was like, oh, like epidural. It's I mean,
it's just it's just it's just weird. And obviously there's
line going on. Yeah, our conspiracy theory is the same
that it's a adopted slash affair baby that was a.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Husband John's affair baby. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Also, this is ug, says I love all the guesses
knowing the answer. John and I have no idea the answer.
We don't pick these stories.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
I mean, yeah, so we we we are in we
are in the dark.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Just the same as you. And also our story picker
is Lana. Shout out Lana. So it keeps it fresh
and interesting. Sophia gang golf. Callen says, I do think
OPI is the a hole? Really wow, Alice says, I've
never asked about my friend's epidural. OPI didn't ask about
the epidural. They brought up the epidural and said it
was through the hand, and they're like, oh, wait, isn't

(48:19):
that usually on the spine?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, I guess it would kind of depend on how exactly, like,
what was the language and what exactly was said when
they were talking about this stuff, because if like OPI
could have been prying and more, you know, into it.
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Well, let's see, let's see Opie's comments comment are part
of alam or comments by all means. Keep in mind
that she may not be a reliable narrator, particularly if
it comes bent medical matters. This is talking about the
fake baby lady. But other than that, just enjoy your nibbling.
This is not a situation where you need to prove
her wrong or set her right, and you're the a

(48:56):
hole if you continue to gossip. Also, why jump to
line which implies ill intent? Ope, he responds, because their
stories change. One day, the labor was grueling, touch and
go twenty four hours and the next day he just
slipped out and didn't even feel it. Labor was an
hour or two max. One day I had an epidural
given via I a V drip in my hand, and
the next it's so quick and easy.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I didn't need pain meds.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
One day he was born without an umbilical cord stump,
so he doesn't watch easily, And the next it was
one hundred percent healthy.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yeah, I think again, like, yeah, maybe, like it doesn't
seem like hope, he's like op, he's like harassing the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Op, he's just like, but don't what's going on? But
also like, you don't need to get to the bottom
of this case. You ain't Scooby Doo. You ain't the
Mystery Mystery Gang and the Mystery Machine, the school Scooby
Doo Gang, Well what do they call themselves? The Mystery
is the Mystery Gang.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, dude, I'll give you grace. Though you didn't watch
it growing up. Yeah, all you had was lines mating.
That's literally all you have. I got a fort blame
me that geo tapes.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I think getting to the bottom of this, like the
Mystery Gang is a whole move. But being like wait,
I'm confused, is I think? Okay, yeah, good distinction. Everything
about it changes on a day to day basis. While
my brother and sister in law tried to insist there's
nothing weird going on, and anyone who merely questions these
changes is a gossip bully. I'm trying to be nice
here and not imply ill intent, But when they jump

(50:15):
down your throat for asking how much the baby weighed,
it's hard not to and Compenter says, you're the a hole.
Sounds like they adopted a baby but are too scared
to tell you, but not afraid to tell her side
of the family because you might judge them. Welcome the
baby and stop being nosy. It's really none of your business, dang.
I mean, yes, I think it's a weird move to

(50:36):
lie about this, for sure, but it's also not your
place to dive into it.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Well, what if your sister was being kind of weird
about her pregnancy? Yeah, I would be like, what the heck?
Why are you lying to me? Yeah, so I think
that might be what she's doing. She's like, these things
are adding up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
I think it's fine to be like, what the heck,
But at a certain point, I think you just allowed
to let it go.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I guess yeah. I feel like, yeah, it's okay to
be curious. But as soon as you start like either
like gossiping or trying to like investigate or like grill them,
that's when we're getting into not good. It's like, what's
the point that you know? Opie says, I mean, I
was adopted and John is a surrogate baby.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
What's that's a crazy como? So I'm unsure about that part. Commenter.
Maybe at this point they are effing with you, and
Opie says, I hope, So, I hope they're really good actors,
and comment you're the a hole. I doubt you and
your mom are reliable narrators, especially considering googling her cravings.
I've had three children, no baby showers, and carried low
with my first. You couldn't tell I was pregnant, and

(51:32):
OPI said, especially considered with the comment, especially considering you
googled her cravings. Yeah, haha, sister and a lot told
me to you kept saying her cravings were common and
to look it up as proof. Then I found said
article and realized she was listing every craving off the list,
and comment says why does it matter? Why not just
ask that they are adopted or use to surrogate if
you want to know so badly? Opie responds, I love
how they're fighting in the comments. I said I would

(51:54):
love to adopt one day. I'm adopted too, but that
surrogacy is also on the table. They both started crying
when family asked they're okay. My brother told my uncle
to shut up, and they left. So I don't know,
and comment to response, I feel like in any situation
it's totally reasonable to fact check, just a question of
what you do with the information. Opi responds, But also
they told me their newborn had this birth defect and
didn't elaborate, so I google it because I'd never.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Heard of it.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
That I find out it has a one hundred percent
death rate. So now I'm assuming this newborn baby is
going to pass away soon, because all babies born with
body stock anomaly live for a few days max. When
I bring it up to him, they tell me, actually, no,
he's not going to pass away, and he doesn't really
have a body stock anomaly. So I went from prematurely
grieving this newborn's death and banicking that he was going
to pass to being told it was actually fine, So like,

(52:38):
how am I supposed to react to news about the baby?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Now?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
More on the body stock anomaly. Body stock anomaly is
a very different thing, and it means it's a defect
in which the abdominal organs develop outside of a baby's
adominal cavity and remain attached directly to placenta. Yes, that
is what they said the baby had. The baby very
clearly does not have BSA, but that's what they said,
and continue to say that baby has flash hats. So

(53:01):
they're continuing doing.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
It, and I'm gonna be honest at this point, like
I wouldn't not do any Like I feel like if
I was in Opie shoes, I'd be like because again
it's like, oh, the baby's gonna pass away and they're
like no, no, no, it's all good. I would be at
least like, what is going on? What is going on?
And kind of like at least just like searching on
my side because I'm like, are you good? Like is

(53:23):
the baby saved? Do you need help? I don't like
all this lying. I don't.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
I mean, like I feel like the commenters are going
into OPI for being like what what's going on with
this baby?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
But I think it could be either way where it's
like there, it's this really weird, crazy situation where like again,
maybe it's in a fair baby I'm trying to cover
it up or whatever the case might be, and they're
kind of like just throwing everyone for a loop. Or
maybe it is something like she was infertile. She feels
really like ashamed about it and just doesn't want to
go public with it and just like trying to you know,

(53:53):
keep people off her back or something. So all right
and til dr for everyone who is asking her a
little fuse basically, ope's is it brother or a sister
in law? I'm forgetting now I think it's just law.
I think I'm just going to double check.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, so Op's sister in law, Opie's sister in law
said that they were pregnant and then disappeared for the
entire pregnancy essentially, And now Op's a little suspicious of
whether the baby is actually like actually, you know, came
from the sister law or if it was adopted or
a surrogate baby. And the sister in law was obviously

(54:33):
lying about where this baby came from, saying like one
day it came out super quick, and another day it
came out super hard. So OP is like asking, am
I the A hole for investigating? And I think what
we're coming to is you're not the a hole for
asking questions, but obviously they're trying to cover this up
and covering up badly. For some reason, I think you're

(54:53):
the a hole for continuing to investigate to a crazy degree.
And I think you know enough that they're a lot
obviously lying, so you don't need to like rub it
in their faces, just be like, Okay, they're lying about this.
I have no idea why. I'm just going to accept that.
I think, yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
As long as no one's seems to be in danger
or anything like that, does it need to be I
will admit. It will be so hard not to. I
think I could, you know, stop myself from like, you know,
kind of like grilling them. But it's just so strange,
Like I understand, I understand the the impulse, but it's
like you can't you can't like grill them.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
If this was my sister, I would be like what,
But it's my sister in law, so I'd probably be
like I would probably.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Wouldn't grill, but then that's your that's your siblings partner though, Yeah,
I would grill up brother, I'll be like, what the
what the heck? Yeah, what's going on? Yeah, grill the partner?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, I I just it's just And then a way
can you highlight that comment again, Riley, OPI is just
a concern for a family member and all the lying
just is needed. If you can't talk to your family
about this, who can you talk to? I mean normal family? Yeah,
and Jellybus says some families aren't normal. I don't know
if I mean, is this Samay seems somewhat normal, but

(56:08):
let's see what continues to happen. So top comment on
the post ambitious border in nineo six is the reality
is that nothing much adds up. But there's one reality
you can buy into. Your brother and his fiance have
a baby, that is theirs. You can remain out of
their lives forever, or let your obsession go and enjoy
your niece slash nephew. Your choice, but you would be

(56:29):
an a hole if you choose option one, which I
think we're kinda going to And Opie has voted the
a hole and we do have an update. What a
story this is this is different. Yeah, this is super different.
I mean it's just I mean it is, it's just weird.
It's just weird. It's just weird. I mean, why lie
about your pregnancy? Yeah to this degree? Why lie badly

(56:49):
about your pregnancy? Terry Sapphire Frog says illegal adoption. Maybe
that explains all the lying. I mean, it's not normal
to lie to close family members. Sophia gangolf Kun says,
it's still family if they're adopted, if they're stolen, that
it's not. But that's police matters. I'd let the sister alone.
And this is says I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Oh boy, all right, we're.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Gonna get into the update. You ready, Let's run it
so well. Twenty four days later, update, I was right
to have questions. After I made my posts, I stopped
talking to my mom about the pregnancy, but things still
didn't add up. Fast forward to my brother's birthday. The
whole family's over at mom our aunts, uncles, cousins, and
older brothers were all guests, and during the party, Jane
mentioned how the baby had BSA and our aunt called

(57:29):
her out on it she's a maternity nurse. It causes
huge argument where Jane and John left in a rage.
But it turns out that Jane didn't give birth. The
baby's actually a product of my brother's affair.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Wake all that got husband's affair? Baby? Yes, let's go,
let's go. I mean sorry, but yes, it's always so
graz there. It's like the worst thing possibly, Yeah, guess
HER's on our Wait wait, wait, why is the sister

(58:02):
in law going along with this? I think I have
a questions, I guess. Yeah. My guess would be, like
maybe it's like she doesn't have the self worth and
self respect of like of like, you know what, this
guy is freaking garbagio. I need to get out of
here and just build a good life for myself. I'm
just gonna stay with him and I'll help him hide
it and you know it. That's what I would guess

(58:25):
is happening here.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
But let's see, let's see, let's keep going. He had
been cheating on Jane with some woman for about six
months before she got pregnant. Apparently, Jane and John offered
her a lump sum of twenty five thousand pounds for
her to allow them to adopt the baby when it
was born and to never interact with the baby. Or
the family. Ever, again, they didn't want this cheating to
be found out, so they pretended Jane was pregnant and

(58:49):
moved away. Jane's mom was in on the whole thing,
the kicker, the punter. This all came out because the
woman John had an affair with decided she wants the
baby back. Apparently she hadn't been fully informed about the
agreements legal implications, and she felt pressured to sign it
in the first place. She also barely speaks English and

(59:09):
the contract was all in English. She's now pursuing legal
action against Jane and John to get full custody of
the baby. She said she waited this long because she
was afraid of her immigrant status getting in the way.
All their closed off answers and refusal to engage was
because they were afraid of this coming out. Apparently Jane
was terrified of someone noticing the baby's eyes green. John

(59:32):
and Jane both have blue eyes, but Lucy has green eyes.
By the way, do you want to listen to more
stories just like this, Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or
your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, there's another
elevant update. But let's discuss John.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah, I'm Wow. F lord, Wow, I've never seen a situation.
I mean, it's kind of like a surrogate situation. Ish
it's an affair. It's an affair surrogate. Yeah, but wow.
And again, like to Riley's point, why did she you
go along with it? Like get out of there? Like
that's not the sits.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Well, if they're bribing someone twenty five thousand euros.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Mulah young, mulah baby. Oh, but you're talking about the wife.
I'm talking about the wife. Yeah. But to Riley's point,
is the wife like, listen, I got it made in
the shade, my husby. Have you got them bags of cash? Yeah?
So I don't Maybe I want I don't want to
leave that and I'm willing to and I want a
baby baby, and maybe she also does have fertility issues.

(01:00:29):
Maybe that's that's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
It's kind of like a win win that. I mean
that true, not much win. But Susan and Sharaka says
they use that poor woman.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Mmmm. Yeah, yeah, soup so skeevie of John, This John guy,
very very very skeeve. Yeah, slimy the haye limy John,
tell me about it. Oh wow, But we got a
little bit more to this story, so things have gone
to absolute crap. The whole situation is bigger than anything
I could have imagined. I want to be updating unless

(01:00:58):
something else crazy happens. I don't know if this was
a sign to keep trusting my gut, but dang, I'll
be logging off a few hours. Thanks to everyone. And
this is a commentater.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
You need to get your sister in law out of
that toxic relationship asapp help that girl wake up, and
Opie said, I mean they both orchestrated taking advantage of
the woman. They're made for each other. And another commentar
why didn't they just say they will adopt a baby,
and Obi says, well, that's what they did, under the
guise of tricking the woman. I don't know what the
contract said exactly, but from what I know, my brother
told her she'd be able to see the baby, but

(01:01:27):
a contract said that by taking twenty five thousand dollars,
she'd never see the baby or my brother slash his
extended family ever again. I feel awful for her, and
I hope she can recover and get her baby back.
And another commenter says, yikes, I hope this poor woman
gets her baby back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
In the US.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
At least there's a visa for people who report a
crime and cooperate with prosecuting the perpetrator. It's frequently used
for domestic violence, but don't know the details of whether
they can be charged with the crime given the contract.
Maybe something like criminal coercion. In any case, I hope
mama and baby are united and together. Sorry, you have
to deal with the family mess op and OPI responds.

(01:02:03):
We're in the UK, where paid surrogacy is illegal unless
it's for reasonable expenses. For example, buying your surrogacy maternity
clothes is legal. Paying a lump sum of twenty five
thousand is not. That's not even getting into the fact
that they tricked her and didn't even attempt to provide
a gender diverse latteur contract in her language anything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Mm wow, who crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
So is OP the a hole? Is OP the a
hole for investigating ah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
I don't know that, op, And maybe there was a
little unreliable narrating going on. I don't know that she
that OPI really pulled those past the line here. Maybe
was kind of on the line with being too before
we knew what the actual situation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
I feel like it's okay to ask questions about something
that's like obviously a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
It seemed not interrogating or grilled. Yeah, and it was
just like, waits you this person got this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
But oh, this says guy translator, guys a gender diverse
trans Oh that's not even getting to the fact that
they tricked her and didn't even attempt to provide a
translator a contract in her language anything. But yeah, I
think OP is not the A hole in bold even
before we knew this, if this information never came out,

(01:03:25):
I think still not the A hole. I think I agree.
I don't know that she she she went past but
the comments totally flamed her on Reddit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
It's true. I mean again, there are scenarios where it's
like you're just over again a woman who's infertile and
is like very ashamed in all this. Yes, totally understood,
but Ope didn't go past the line. That is where
I think, from from all that we know, from all
that we know, well we know, but oh wow, and
uh pol a chat has pretty much spoken.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Not the ale, not the A hole, with more votes
coming in in agreement. But yeah, let us know what
you think, let us know where you disagree with us.
We'd love to know in the comments below, and with
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