My mother-in-law ALWAYS falls for scams… this time it’s breaking the family! | Reddit Stories | EP2109 - ok storytime

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is John. This is Sam, your og Okay Storytime
podcast hosts. We have some spectacular stories coming up, but
real quick, we got a two minute break from our
lovely sponsors keeping this ship sailing. My mother in law
always falls for scams. This time it's breaking my family
don't answer the phone. Grandma. Mother in law lives in Laos,

(00:21):
a developing country in Asia. I was born there too,
but left when I was ten months old. Mother in
law had fallen victim to romance scams in the past,
but only losing maybe two to five thousand dollars. Only
lot the lot. Oh man, the romance scams really get you. Yeah,
that's tough man. We knew she had in the past

(00:42):
six months fallen for another romance scam, but I didn't
think it was serious. By the way, this comes from
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
So.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
My wife has in the past four years and completely
renovated her mother's house, new backyard, new additions to the house,
even left her still relatively new car for her mother.
My wife also sends her about seven hundred dollars a
month for expenses the same amount she sends to her father,
and he says it's more than enough. Mother in law's
not cash rich but has access to properties. Put and

(01:15):
I see you in the chat, see where this is going?
Oh no, I think grandmama is going to Willsome Land
to a dashing stallion on the internet. Oh no, Well,
we would then hear things like how mother in law
is very frugal, lives like destitute person. Mother in law
would constantly be asking my wife for advances in her allowed.
Then we would hear from others that mother in law

(01:38):
told people that we have never sent her any money
at all, not even a dollar, but I'd be sending
you seven hundred dollars a month. Woe is me a
seven hundred Woe is me? Grandma? An attempt to convince
that person to lend her money. Then we start getting
calls from village elders and family members that mother in
law is trying to pawn properties for loans some successfully. Dude,

(01:59):
what's worse giving the property to the person or pawning
them off to try to because she's probably not getting
a good deal, probably just trying to double it off
anyway she can. This is bad. She has no intentions
of paying these loans for the papers we could get.
They take the property after six months of back payments.
Mother in law thinks she will be living in the

(02:20):
US by the time the loans are due and her
great lover will pay off the loans. H oh. No,
she's been able to pawn things that aren't even in
her name. She has pawned in the past month jewelry
ten thousand dollars, four acre plot for twelve thousand dollars,
but the real value is fifty thousand. Oh scooters, one thousand,

(02:42):
rental advance from the business property she owns one sixth
of twenty thousand dollars, my wife's car three thousand, the
real value fifteen thousand. They're roughly fifty thousand she received
from the loans she's already given away to the scammers.
And it's so oh dude, it is so tragic because
not only has she given away the fit fifty grain
in cash, but there's like basically almost another another fifty

(03:04):
grain in value. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
That I genuinely think we should like have forces for
older people who aren't super used to using the internet
to like teach them how to not fall for these scams.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, I mean she's just so probably she's probably just
so lonely, you know, and just like yeah, but this
is like it's.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Just like a huge thing that impacts older people in general,
like falling for scam.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, driver's license and anti scammers license, we need that. Well,
she's also attempted to sell but we're stopped by officials.
Another four acre plot for eighteen thousand dollars and the
real value is one hundred thousand dollars. Her own house
in the capital right now in the central Business District,
tried to sell it for one hundred thousand dollars. The
real value is five hundred thousand or one sixth plot

(03:47):
for the family business property fifty thousand, real value two
hundred and fifty thousand. So she's trying to sell everything,
and it's oh, dude, it's so tragic because, like GOPI said,
she's not cash rich, but she has all of these
all these assets assets, and it's just like pennies on
the dollar, like this could be It's not like I
couldn't take care of generations generational wealth, but these are

(04:07):
things you can pass down. I mean, it may be
a laos like this. Yeah, yeah, I mean this is
like it's like almost like a million dollars in assets.
It feels like we've gone through it, like right close
to it. Yeah, million USD. My wife's family is not
used to confrontations. I think it's actually a cultural thing.
Despite everyone knowing what needs to be done, no one
is leading. So I guess I am. In three weeks

(04:28):
we'll be landing in Laos. I will need an intervention
around ten people, victim impact statements, et cetera. I got
my sister in law and mother in law ex husband
to talk to the officials to make sure the second
farm plot and house and family businesses cannot be sold
as the village officials have to sign off on it.
We will pay off the car loan and then sell
the car. We cannot get back the plot of land

(04:50):
without mother in law helping as she has the loan
papers and these loan people are shysters. So unless mother
in law is convinced she has been scammed, that plot
is gone. If mother in law comes to her senses,
we will use the car money and put in our
own money funds to buy back the land. We stopped
sending mother in law money last month. We pay her
utility bills directly pay sister in law to buy groceries

(05:13):
to put in her fridge. Issue with the house she's
trying to sell is two of her daughters and quite
often one or two grandkids also live there. Losing the
house will not just affect mother in law. Yeah, so
she's kind of imploding the whole family. Yeah, this is
really bad. Amber Sparks made a great comment in chat
AI Boyfriends for Nana's no scamming, no nothing, just AI boyfriends.

(05:34):
That is a great business.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I legitimately think that's a great idea if we market
AI boyfriends and partners for older people and.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Then are you ready, Sophia, Yeah, we also have them
throughout educate them about the scammers.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Whoa there. I love you so much. Did you know
that millions of old people get scammed every day? And
I love you every day of the year.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I love you so much. I want to show you
this example of a phishing email. If you've read this far,
holy thank you. I need help with this intervention. I've
never even done one before. I need some guidance. We
plan on taking her smartphone and replacing it with one
of those brick Nokias. I'm expecting the intervention to last
five to six hours, and also think of not letting

(06:19):
her leave the house even for days or weeks until
she gets it. If she doesn't wake up and realize
what's happening and pawns to how she lives in, we
will not help. I will not put up one hundred
and thirty thousand for this batcrap crazy lady and risk
my own family's financial future. So this intervention, as serious
as it may get, has to work or will be
cutting mother in law completely from our life. I guess

(06:41):
what I'm asking is for those who have successfully got
their family members to realize they were scammed, what did it?
How are you successful? How is the process like for
someone this deep in? And an edit? My wife approached
me with a solution that our sister looked into. I
think we're going to check mother in law into a
mental health substance clinic and hospital referred us to. We

(07:01):
have spoken with the police who will take her to
the clinic. Curious what some people think of a solution
being and we do have some comments from op Yeah
what are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean this is a
hard situation, but I mean kudos to op for being
the one to kind of like organize everyone. It sounded
like everyone wanted to do it, but no one was

(07:22):
kind of like taking that step. But now everyone's like
kind of coalescing around it, which is great to see.
And yeah, like see see if you can get like
an institution like that that is properly equipped and trained
to handle this. Yeah, but I think you I mean,
it's like, I think you need to check in the institution,
but you also, I think need someone to check up
on her after she leaves, the fact that she's staying

(07:44):
there or whatever, Like I mean, like you don't want
her giving away even more money. Like can you also
like restrict her power to you know, like become a
person that looks over her assets or power attorney, power
of attorney, at least in the US. I don't know
what the what it would look like out there, but yeah,
maybe there's some sort of power of attorney that op

(08:06):
OPI's partner can get for her or something like that.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Better plan you set her up on a date with
a real person that she doesn't need to fall for
these romance scams because she's got some.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's got Yeah, dude, you know honestly hire nanny. Uh.
If you hire Nana a full time jigglow, that's probably
cheaper than all of this internet scamming, that is what.
And then maybe Granny would be, uh would be a
little less stressed. Yeah, I mean maybe just to preserve
what you have left. Yeah, just full send it. And

(08:36):
then also now you have someone looking after Granny that's
like a living maid that also gets down to business.
Just a hot mail hot that's basic. Nerd knows what
time is. It knows what time it is, and knows
when it's time to lay some pipe. Yep, not what
I wanted. I'm just saying I feel Granny needs Garnya

(09:00):
needs you know. It kind of seems like that. I
can't even lie. Listen, these old people, those rates of
infection go crazy in these retirements that they do. That
they do, old people will be getting after Yeah, old
people will get a horny too, exact they know. That's
why I've started a new charity. Oh, here we go,
solving holiness for old people. Wow. Yeah, yeah, hopefully it

(09:20):
won't be a long problem for anymore. Every old person
is paired up with a jiggle or just jigglet and uh,
it just has their loneliness and their frustrations completely satisfied.
So they're not giving away their fortune. But we got
more of the story so Op's comments eraser x two

(09:41):
hundred says, Unfortunately, it usually takes them running out of money.
They want to believe what they are being told is true,
so bad Convincing them otherwise is almost impossible. On YouTube,
there's a channel called Catfish. Maybe you can contact them
and have them show that's a scamp and help you respond. Yes,
sad as it is. If this interinvention doesn't work, we're out.

(10:02):
My wife agrees. He's even sold my wife's geolery and
replace them with faith. Why feels constantly betrayed? And a
commenter responds, but if a cultural point, if your wife
was raised and low culture, cutting off her mother would
basically be impossible for her, one of the gravest sins
in their culture, no matter what the parents does. I
don't know her nor your relationship, but I would be

(10:23):
highly skeptical about her alleged agreement to wear out. You
might have agreed to make you happy, avoid conflict, and
move things along, but don't count on that happening so easily.
In the way an American would imagine anop response. Yeah,
you're right. If it came down to it, the kids
and grandkids have places to go. She doesn't. My wife
would probably get a rental and pay someone to fill
it with groceries. And commenter says it's very likely that

(10:45):
even if you seem to get through to her, you
pay off anything, and then she'll go right back to
sell it again and give more to the scammer. We
see this story time again here. The intervention or ultimated
seems to work, but very quickly they go back to
the scammer again because you know, the core suffering has
it been resultd You know, it's not like you can't
shame this person into changing. What they're really looking for

(11:06):
is companionship. And so the only thing I feel like
that could work in the situation is jiggilos for Grandma's
like they can find print. That's a huge thing. Maybe
there is a I think there could be a true
matchmaking that they could, yeah, attempt to help asult a
companionship in all areas of life. Yeah, in every area.
Oh god, I'm trying, guys, I'm trying. I mean in Japan.

(11:29):
So one of the things I'm doing in Japan is
I'm renting an old man.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
And shout out where you got that from?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Stevie? Yeah, our friends, TeV. But yeah, I'm going to
rent an old man. They're like six bucks an hour,
and really, I mean it's like it's just because they
want to hang out with people. I have friends that's
need to like hang out. Yeah. Yeah, And there's so
many old people that want to feel useful, so they
have these old man rental services. Yeah it's so great.
That's so great. Just love it. I'm gonna rent a
hundred Yeah, one hundred old men just for me. Old

(11:59):
men versus Oh wow, that's a that's a thumbnail. But
then you just you know, hang out does hang out?
That's the verses. Yeah. Well, you need to make sure
to protect the house so her kids have a place
to live. An op response. Here's what's more messed up.
The house actually was the family house of her ex
husband's parents. They divorced, but he agreed to not split

(12:20):
the house or have his name on the deed because
he said his kids and grandkids are living there and
he was happy his kids and grandkids could use it
father them as a cool dude and no one blames
him for leaving. An update March twenty ninth, one month later.
Before we go into the update, John, do you think
anything has changed? Not really much. I mean, I guess
it's way better than nothing. Their plan, like, for instance,

(12:42):
they mentioned that Gopi's partner would like maybe put her
in an apartment, buy groceries, you know, so she doesn't
directly have the money, looking at like a an institution
they can put her in. I think it is definitely
way better than nothing. But I think, like you said,
the important part to call out is the core issues
not being addressed or solved by that which is her loneliness,

(13:03):
her want for companionship, and me, I think if we
did all the things that are already doing combined with
trying to address the companionship issue, that could actually has
high potential for fully solving the problem. Yeah, beg. Like
you said, root of the problem needs to be really
needs to be solved. But we got an update one
month later. I never thought there'd be a part two

(13:24):
because I didn't think there would be a points But
here it goes. Guys, we're less than a third of
the way through the store. Oh god, all right, so
the first few days we arrive in Laos. My mother
in law is nowhere to be seen. On day three,
we get one of her friends to ask her to
meet up casually. She says she can't she's in another
city for a funeral of her friend. We then figure

(13:44):
she's hiding out in her country farmhouse an hour away.
So now it's harder to get a lot of people
in my planned intervention. Still, six people pack in a van,
her brothers, her daughters, including my wife and me, and
we head out. Okay, so we're getting into the intervention.
We park and one of our daughters approaches the farmhouse.
She calls out her mom, and her mom answers and
tells us to go away. We surround the farmhouse and

(14:05):
everything is locked. Franny knows what's coming. Dude, this is
like it's like when the SWAT team comes up here. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I won't go. My prices take me live on my phone.
We keep telling her that we just want to talk,
but will break down the doors if she doesn't unlock

(14:26):
the doors. Mother in law refuses to answer. There are
two doors inside. One is boarded up and impossible to
get through. WHOA She does not want to be reached
the other. We use a crow bar to wedge open
the door. We get through the lock, but this woman
has used coat hangers wrapped around the doorknob attached to
something to keep us out. It's almost like she's booby

(14:48):
trapped the house. Yeah, this is like home alone grand
crazy grandma version. So now we spend ten minutes getting
through that. We go through the house and she's locked
in the bedroom. So now we start use a crow
bar on this door. As we do so, she's screaming
that we're coming to un alive her rates. We get
in and she's an absolute mess, hair all over the place,

(15:08):
just general unkempt. Her older brother tries to talk to
her really really calm, like a good guy, being nice calm.
He gets the old one two from marriage. He's getting
ba ba ha yah. She's also a heavy set woman,
probably hurt a little even if she's elderly. So I
sit down and I totally think I got this right. Dude,
I don't know, I would not be thinking bad. Well,

(15:29):
I've seen some screenshots of her phone that people have
managed to take was able to piece together the possible story.
So I lay down on her. Common enough romance scam.
Scammer sends her something gets stuck in customs. She sends money,
but it's still stuck, and the story escalates to the
scammer coming to visit her, then is arrested and needed bail.
Now it's her fault and she needs to send money
to bail him out. It's okay. When he's out, he

(15:51):
will pay whatever cost she incurred, and the fly away
to another country and live happily. Ever after, I spend
three hours over logic and reason, like why can't at
this guy call his embassy if he's stuck. Doesn't say
a word, but does look at me when I talk. Finally,
at hour five, everyone is tired and giving up. I
give her a hug. She absolutely breaks, and we've gotten
through to her. WHOA okay? He starts crying, telling us

(16:13):
he believes us everyone hugs each other, which has not
happened in this country. People are crying. I'm like, yeah,
I got this. Who wants to spend another night at
the farm? Though? I get that she's lost someone like
she's lost, like this person that she thought was her lover.
She's grieving it. Yeah, one hundred percent, this lover that
no longer existed and who never loved her. He needs

(16:34):
to grieve. Do we believe it? I? Yes, you can
stay here, but I'm staying with you. Yeah, I think that.
And I'm taking your phone and taking your phone. Yeah. Yeah.
It's like kind of a give and take, like, hey,
I'll stay here with you, you know, let's have us
one more night. But I'm going to take your phone
because like I want to want to ensure that you're
not to go. But yeah, I feel like this is

(16:54):
all a ploy to just get them, just get him
off her back. Ten thousand. I asked for her phone,
but she doesn't want to give it that night. You
will give it tomorrow, but promises not to contact the scammers.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh well, we should definitely believe her.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Oh pie, please tell me you took away her phone.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Please at this point, if you don't take away your phone.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
You're just stupid. Yeah, you're getting scammed. That's true. She's
learned from the best. Everyone leaves a good spirits. I
see you, I see so you're so silly. You're silly billies.
People seem happy, and dinner's had. Next day, mother in
law returns, I see her for maybe five minutes. Everyone
seems good. I decide to go the route of starting

(17:40):
on the family recover part, and a few days later
go for the financial part. We are staying in a hotel,
not with my mother in law. So the next day
family dinner has had. People are happy to have their
mother back. Two days later, bigger family dinner. Mother in
law seems happy. She agrees to talk about the financial
part the next day. This whole time I did not
get the phone back from her. I was so focused
on getting the family part back. Oh I see you,
I see I see you. Oh my gosh. All right,

(18:03):
misstake at the table. I sit myself, mother in law,
and her daughters. I start with a simple you do
still believe us and not the scammer? Kevin? Right, He
replies with I don't know what you're talking about. There
was never a Kevin, so yeah, he's still talking to
the scammer. Now everyone's pissed. One of her daughters throws
photo copied text conversations between her and the scammer while

(18:24):
yelling at her mom, Oh, yes, that was Kevin. I
can't believe this crap is happening. I try to keep
everyone calm, but everyone is upset. What's crazy is that
she seems to realize the scam, but the same time
still believes the scammer. We ask for property titles so
she can't pot or sell things, and we recover some things,
but she only gives us partial documents or photocopies, so
everyone is more pissed. He keeps denying having any loan papers,

(18:48):
but the loan sharks kept them all. We don't believe it.
She takes out her phone and starts to go through
it to find one of her loan documents. My wife
decides this is it in lunges at her mother for
the phone. WHOA. My wife might be slim, but she's
active at the gym, and I, of course naturally have
to go at it too. So now three people are
wrestling over the phone, which we do manage to take.

(19:10):
My wife quickly goes over the conversations with the scammers
and the loan sharks. My wife reads aloud the messages
and confirms that it was the same scam story that
we thought. At this point, everyone seems calm. Mother in
law seems resigned to the fact that we now have
her phone and are going through it. The rest of
the family is bewildered and how obviously faked the lies
and images that the scammer sent over to her were.

(19:31):
But no one is yelling at her. The scammer is
apparently American head of medicine at some Boston hospital. Of course,
why wouldn't a forty something ahead of medicine want and
my elderly, nearly obese mother in law. At one point,
my wife sees that my mother in law asks the
scammer why he didn't go to the embassy for help.
The scammer said that there were no embassies from his

(19:51):
country where it was being held. We questioned the mother
in law, but she's not really talking much. Maybe that
was like the mother in law trying to see if
what her family was saying was true. That seems like
he's losing at least a little bit of faith, you know,
I mean, maybe it's like I could see her having
questions like, oh what about this? What about this? But
I feel like the power this gammer has over he is,

(20:13):
like even if she asked questions, he's able to like, yeah,
use it, so yeah, not great? Not great?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, finally she says he's in Germany. Everyone is still calm,
though I show my mother in law that there is
a US embassy in Germany, a half dozen consulates and
dozens of offices. Definitely, she applied that she's going to
have to let Kevin know about these options that he
didn't know about. No, oh, that's not does she not know?
That's not the takeaway? Does she not know? Just totally,

(20:43):
It's like the mental facilities are not there. She still
believes this dude. I show her that the plane tickets
they sent to show he had a jet set life
didn't exist. These images were so ridiculously faked that anyone
could google and see why a NonStop ticket from kazakst
on Tennessee on UA one thirty four. Everyone is still
trying to convince her and stay calm, though my wife

(21:05):
scrolls to the loan sharks. Financially, we are mostly where
we think we are. Accept who's managed to pawn the
country farmhouse? We didn't think she could because the ex
husband is on the title and he did not agree
to that. People are furious, and I am tired of
holding them back. They verbally lay it onto her. We
put down on paper what the debt is, and I
don't think he flinched. We did when we totaled it

(21:28):
seventy thousand for the properties and items worth three hundred
and fifty thousand dollars. And think about it. They're in
Laos right now, right, so like think about that relative worth,
Like that's that's like so much over four uk USD
like that could be like millions relatively speaking. Yeah, Oh
my goodness, wow, wow wow wow wow Wow to the sun.

(21:52):
I'm about to get this scammon business. Yeah John John grannies. Oh.
We try for two hours to talk sense into her,
but she's still fully committed to believing the scammers. There's
just one property left, not Pond, the one we're currently in,
the one that only has her name but is actually
her ex husband's childhood house. Everyone leaves frustrated, and my

(22:15):
wife and I tell her that she would never see
us again. He asks for her phone back, Do not
give it to her? Don't do it? Our reply, was
it nice? My wife worries her mother is going to
commit self harm, but she doesn't. The next day, we
meet up with the father in law, whom I always
thought was the stand up guy. Everyone thought he would
be upset, but he was just disappointed. He goes on
to explain that he removed his name from the house

(22:35):
title in the Capitol because he didn't want his children
or grandchildren to think he would try to pump them
out of it in any way, as his ex wife
had repeatedly said it was something he would do. He
was in tears and said he just wanted good things
for his family. We agreed to meet up again the
next day to start a plan to get the police
to arrest mother in law for selling the farm property
that father in law did have his name on the title.

(22:57):
Maybe they could get it back maybe, Oh yeah, I
wonder if you're like, hey, like kind of like pleading insane,
yeah yeah, or like you know, this is a false
deal like this she wasn't her Yeah, housed upon Yeah,
interesting because like in the Poor Poor Father and like
he was like, I want to keep this before the family,
and then she tries to get rid of it. But yeah,
maybe maybe there is a chance they could get it

(23:19):
get back yeah yeah. Yeah. Well, life goes through the
phone and we get an even clearer picture. Turns out
these loan scheisters weren't nearly as bad as we thought,
even the one that accepted a properties collateral knowing that
father in law wasn't involved. There were two main loaners,
and each loan to them started typically enough for the
two properties, but the mother in law started asking to
see if they would take a loan from the house

(23:40):
in the Capitol. Ball said no, staying they didn't want
any of the properties, they just wanted the interest in
the loans. They started questioning if she was being scammed,
telling her to talk to her family. She kept telling
them she was fine. They kept insisting she'd get her
and family involved, and she said her family was why
she didn't have anything and needed the loan. We call
the loan people. They seem able and actually concerned for

(24:01):
mother in law. One only wanted the principle back, the
other seemed willing to accept the principal in a month's
interest instead of everything that's accrued. My wife asked me
if I remembered the jewelry gifts we got for our wedding.
I replied that I didn't until she mentioned it. Now, good,
then you won't miss them because Granny pawned them away.
Got them the next day. My wife plans to pay

(24:22):
the loan to get her car back. There's already a
buyer the sale of the car and the jewelry is
enough to cover not everything, but at least the two
farm properties. I guess I shouldn't be annoyed at losing
the jewelry. Definitely annoyed at mother in law though, Yeah, duh.
Annoyed is the understatement of the century. Yeah, I mean
she's caused all of this to happen so much, and
I mean she's pawned like so much money. It's so sad. Yeah,

(24:46):
because it's not just the dollar of value alone is
insane and would cause anyone to be upset, I think.
But I think like the home father in law wanted
for the grandkids, the jewelry that had the sentilementtal value,
all of these things have a lot of emotional value
and connection that's so painful to lose. Well, sure enough,

(25:07):
midday we get a text message from the scammer on
mother in law's phone, which we have, asking why he's
getting texts from another number claiming to be my mother
in law and that is the new number to call.
We throw a few curveball scammer, but yep, mother in
law had a backup phone, which explains why she wasn't
wrestling us back for the phone. If only mother in
law used all of these scamming tactics for the family,

(25:29):
like that she's using on the family for her own
self betterment, he might have been fine, Like like like
what I mean, she's literally hoodwinking this entire family that
she's oh, yeah, like I'm not going to talk to them. Oh,
here's my phone, Like she has a backup phone. She
obviously has enough wits about her to scam the family,
so she can get scammed by the scammer. Yeah, you know,
like like if only she used those wits to protect herself. Yeah,

(25:52):
like Granny clearly understands says something that technology Like Heidi
says dementia. I don't think so, Like it seems like
she's she has enough wits about her to hoodwink the family,
So I don't think it's dementia. I think she actually
is pretty sharp. Yeah, we we're no experts here, but yeah,
maybe it's it's something like not dementia, but something else,
like in her brain chemistry and mental health. She's lonely.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Maybe it's like a Killing Eve situation.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
What break there to the show Killing Eve where Sandra
I think she's like hunting down Eve, the killer and
then she falls in love with Eve.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
So it's like kind of like Stockholm syndrome a bit
where it's like, oh, I know this person is like,
you know, scamming me and doing all this stuff, but
I just like I still crave it. I still yeah,
And I think there's something mental going on where Drainey's
still sharp. Obviously she's sharp enough to like do all
this planning and this movement maneuvering, but does not have
her like wits about her to understand that this is
like so damaging, This is so bad for her, for

(26:45):
the family and everything else. It is a bad situation.
It's a bad situation. Well, so she's re talking to
the scammers. Yay. Two hours after this, my sister in
law puts her phone up to show me and my
wife alive scene from the security cameras of the house.
A lot of people in this country still believe in
animalism and spirits, et cetera. And the conversation goes like

(27:06):
this sister in law, she's opening up all the windows
in the house. Why that nasty witch. Yep, she's got
them all opened, and she's got some incense. Now she's
lighting them outside the house and waving them. Oh f r,
I'm so out of her life. What kind of mother
does that? Me scratching my head, what's going on? She
just wished all the evil in the world come to
you and your wife. Oh wonderful, Thank you for reading

(27:28):
my rant. Well we're here for another week. Let's see
what crazy crap happens now. Hoping my mother in law
does get arrested. I think it's likely, but maybe not
before we leave. You guys actually read this all the
way through and the next part is interesting. I'll put
it out so we might have another update. And it
looks like we do. Oh, looks like we do. Yeah,
I mean this is something that can just crazy stuff

(27:49):
can keep happening. Yeah, because of where a granny's at,
which is not a good place. Oh boy, well some
of OPI's comments, So commenter, the picture you paint is
one of a person who is not mentally well. She
needs medical intervention. Op That is the picture we get
as well. I've suggested this to the family before they
declined it. It seems like a good idea to suggest

(28:11):
it again at it. Recall now why they decline. Mental
health treatment is non existent here. The one place that
would take her is for substance rehab and it's pretty grim.
And we got a mini update March thirtieth, twenty twenty
five the next day. Oh so, commenter, I would not
bail her out of her loans with your money. She'll
just do it again with the same scammer or a
different scammer. I would move on with your life and

(28:32):
stay out of hers. And nope. Response the deed for
the farm as my father in law as well on
it will be transferred entirely to my father in law. Okay,
that's great, that's good. Apparently this can be done without
mother in law's consent as long as officials agree. It
looks like they will agree. The other farm that is
entirely in mother in law's name will hopefully be transferred
to my wife eventually, as she is the one who

(28:54):
actually paid for it, but we need mother in law
to agree. Seems she won't agree anytime soon. However, we
actually get to keep the title from the loan or
after the debt's paid, so she won't be able to
pawn anything without the title. As for the house in
the Capitol, father in law's childhood home, father in law,
along with the entire family will be meeting with officials
to have the title change to be only under father

(29:14):
in law's name. So we're taking a lot of power
away from granny right now. Plan is going to get
mother in law arrested and put away until she regains
her senses. I don't know if you will. Can't believe
it's come to that, but I don't see any way
to get her to go back to her senses. Apparently
she's throwing garbage all around the house and plugging laundry
if someone is using the machine, just making the lives
of her daughters still there miserable. The daughters are still

(29:35):
there living with her, right yeah, because remember that I
think that was the house the father in law was like, hey,
I want this for all the grand kid Like I
want this for the family, you know what I mean.
And she's just like been, you know, pimping it out
to get money and now like making their lives miserable.
So messed up the whole time, screaming at whoever is
there that soon she will have everything and we will

(29:56):
see she's rites. I previously told the daughters go easy
on mom, but today I told them to go at
it if they want. They are not defense as women.
They've been holding back. He's going to be put away.
It seems like one way or another. And we got
another update April eleventh, twenty twenty five, one and a
half months later and two and a half months from
the OG post. Okay, that's a lot can happen. Yeah, yeah,

(30:16):
and we're getting up to the present day. Yeah, well
the recent this update isn't as exciting as the second
update where we were breaking down doors, growbars and my
mother in law was putting a hecks on us. But
that's probably a good thing. I pushed getting her arrested,
but apparently Laos it's not that simple. You have to
go to the village elder. They have to get the
village police involved, and then an actual arrest can be made.

(30:37):
I'm not sure if it really was this complicated or
if the family just didn't have the appetite for it.
Of all the things she had pawned, we were interested
in resolving four items that were pawned or suspected to
be my wife's car, two of the farm plots in
the house in the Capitol. We paid three thousand dollars
to get the car back, which included the loan and
the interest. We then sold the car. My wife also
sold the wedding jewelry we received many years ago. This,

(30:58):
together with the proceeds of the was enough for us
to pay back the loan and interest for the two
farm plots. The papers were all signed in front of
the village officials. We had no idea where the deed
to the house and the capitol was. Turns out the
loan people had the deed all along. My mother in
law was so desperate for money that she offered to
take five thousand dollars for a house worth five hundred

(31:18):
thousand dollars. I'm hoping that these loan people are nice
enough to not like to give that back. I mean,
I wouldn't have the faith that, you know, a super
loan sharkster would do that, but I'm praying the loaner
declined but held onto the deed, which was given back
to us. Okay, that's kind of smart. The loaner's like, hey,

(31:40):
or or like basically, I'm not going to give you
back this loan until I see someone with higher mental
faculties right right, because then it's like maybe the government
rest or whatever they're out, whatever cash they spent. The
laws at LLAOS don't make any sense to me, and
I'm not sure how we're able to do the things
we did after. The first farm plot is six acres
and owned by my mother in law and ex husband.

(32:02):
Mother in law managed to pawn the property without her
ex husband knowing, so now we're going by official judgment
from their divorce. One and a half acres will be
given to mother in law, but the title will be
given to one of her daughters to hold. The second
farm plot is five acres. It was one hundred percent
in my mother in law's name, but was paid for
by my wife years ago. Title will now be transferred
to my wife. As for the house in the Capitol,

(32:23):
it's one hundred percent in my mother in law's name,
even though it was my father in law childhood home.
This was because she had repeatedly accused him of in
the future selling the house and leaving the grandkids with
no place to go. Funny how it was actually the opposite.
We're working on putting father in law back on the
title while one of my wife's sisters holds onto the title.
My wife used to give her mother a five hundred

(32:44):
to six hundred dollars a monthly stipened but stopped a
few months ago. He's told her sisters that she will
still help pay for utilities and putting groceries in her
mother's fridge. Wife's niece and nephews also use the house.
We have to pay utilities directly now, as the lights
were just turned off recently because mother in law didn't
pay utilities for four months. She won't see her son
again either, and she has numerous photos of him in

(33:05):
her house. We knew she had promised the scammers to
get him money in April, so we tried to get
ahead of that. She traveled to Thailand. That's some relatives
for money, but we told them ahead of time not
to give any money. Smart put this woman on like
a do not give money list. We need, yeah, we
need a list. We need a list, We need a list.
In the end, she begged them for bags of rice

(33:26):
to take home, which they gave. She also recently went
to visit her son to ask him for money. He
was at home, so she asked for five dollars from
her daughter in law's mother. Five dollars. He's literally been
selling like half you know, like a half a million
dollars at least maybe a million dollars worth of stock.
Now she needs five dollars. Come on, she's going to
several friends asking for financial help, telling them that her

(33:48):
kids abandoned her. So now we will have to call
those people and tell them that mother in law has
been scammed. But we still put food in the fridge.
Mother in law believes the scammers. She wants to desperately
believe she did not give the scammers our final tallly
of seventy thousand dollars. She really wants to believe her
lover is real. She has nothing enough to pawn. Since
we have all the documents, I can only hope that

(34:09):
within six months the scammers will stop talking to her
once they realize she has nothing left, and maybe she
will come to your senses. By the way, you should
come to your senses by listening to full stories just
like this. Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite
podcast app and search. Okay, story time, there's another elevant update.
Hey it's Sam. We're gonna get back to the stories.
But here's three minutes bads from our sponsors. Well, let's

(34:31):
discuss John. Yes, sir, my goodness, what a saga what
a roller coaster we've been on, my friend. Yeah, geez,
Louise Trapez, I am happy that we are. Seems like
we're on the other side. Yes, they were able to
get back a shocking amount of shocking him out. Shocking
him out probably very unusual and lucky. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

(34:52):
and luckily some of these loan sharks were less sharky
than we may have thought at the beginning. Yeah, but
my goodness, why.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Did they ever like contact the scammers.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
They had them on the phone or one of the
other phones, I think. Yeah, and the house that was
like five k for five hundred K. I think they
were like directly involved somehow. Yeah. So, yes, they were
really able to finesse in a multiple things. So, like
Op said it, like he's like, I don't know how
this really works. But we were to get all this stuff.
But we got a little bit more of this story.
Here we go. It's been exhausting, but I'm glad we

(35:23):
were able to get all three property tiles back, so
at least mother in law and niece and nephews don't
end up on the street. I was born in Laos too,
but left when I was one years old. But I
get the culture. We had planned a five week trip
that spent almost four weeks cleaning up this scam mess.
The whole point of the trip, prior to realizing my
mother in law was being scammed, was to do a
baby blessing ceremony to be attended by hundreds of people,

(35:43):
very wholesome, positive event, something my wife has been looking
forward to for a year. We didn't do it because
there was so much bad energy. It wasn't until we
flew to Bangkok for a few days that we felt
we were on vacation. My wife used to fly back
to Laos once a year, sometimes twice. He's made it
very clear he won't be going back for a while,
and that is where that story ends. Wow. Hey, you know,

(36:05):
as terrible as this saga was, at least we kind
of got into a little bit better of a place. Yeah,
potentially a lot better with getting everything back and all
the stuff that, you know, and cutting the mother in
law off from having more funds to give to these
camera Just give her, give her groceries, yeah, and utilities.
That's that's it. Miss Woozy said they got so lucky
with the lone people. Yeah, for sure, Oh my god.

(36:27):
But that's not where this episode ends. Oh no, we
got another story for you. Yeah, we're not scamming you
out of that. Let's go started, all right, boys and girls,
we gin and we get a next story. My mother
is doubting my sister in law's pregnancy and it's getting uncomfortable.
Stop making me uncomfortable, Mama, make me comfy. Hi, red it.
I'm in a bit of a bind with my family.
My mother has always been a bit critical and controlling.

(36:49):
She and I have never seen eye to eye, but
my brother and her have had a wonderful relationship, especially
as he's gotten older and wiser. However, a big snack
to this came when he proposed to my now sister
in love. By the way, this comes from Baby Throwaway
Central and if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash. Okay, storytime, stop brending. So,
my mother felt like her family was included in a

(37:11):
lot more in the festivities, and she felt incredibly slighted
by this, I guess way more than her. After they
got married, she made this no secret to them. After
it happened, my brother and sister in law were very
taken aback by this. She had never indicated her disappointment
until the moment when she unloaded it on them. My
brother was very upset and they didn't talk for a while. Well,

(37:33):
not long after he told us that he and his
wife were pregnant. We got a baby. Yes, yes, so
we love babies. We love babies. John John Hay's babies
and thinks I love babies so much. They are just hey, listen,
I was the The reason why I can say this
is because I was the ugliest baby. I was black

(37:55):
and blue and not looking brand new, even though I
literally was. I was a brain baby coming out. But
it was tough, so I knew this was coming. As
they wanted to start a family right away. While everyone
was excited, my mom was very angry. That's not good.
She started telling me behind my back that if it
happened a little later, she wouldn't have been doubtful. But

(38:15):
since it happened right after their marriage, she was conceived
as a bachelorette party baby. Air go to break this down,
what modding Yeah, Mom is insinuating that, oh, she hooked
up with someone at the bachelorette party because of this timeline,
therefore she was cheating. But god, she could have slept
with her her husband to be at any point during

(38:38):
this time. So this is a I mean, Sophia, what
are you saying? This seems like a huge, far fetched
reach by the mom.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
So so so yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Also, I've never I don't think we've ever really heard
the term bachelor ate baby. Yes, that feels like a
new one, which I kind of like it. Which but
and we have the accusation, but I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we have heard of in scene the bachelorette and bachelor
party cheating. Oh wait, so we have We restarted the
GDR because I think it's still I don't know why

(39:08):
our tel dr about friend is struggling. Chat let us
know if URTELDR about friend gives us gives you what
you're looking for, struggling, and we will look into that.
Let's give it a stop and a restart, right, because
it'll still at least get the the and I'll do
with FELDR in that. Yes, all right, quick tal DR
on everything that's happened up until now. So p Opie

(39:30):
has a sister in law, right, and the mother in
law is very doubtful they fell in love, they got married.
The mother in law is thinking that because they had
a pregnancy announcement with the timeline of the wedding. She
is now accusing her of basically having a bachelorette party
affair baby, cheating at the bachelorette party, and conceiving the

(39:53):
baby bachelorette baby. Bachelorette baby, which is a new one.
That's one, which is a new one for us. We
love that term. So we're going to see if we
think she's full of crap. Okay, but we're gonna see
if there's any any truth to this. All right, So
I was a bridesmaid in the wedding, so I went
to the bachelorette party. Okay, so maybe O who knows. However,
everyone knows I dislike clubbing. It's just not for me.

(40:15):
So I went back to the hotel early to soak
my feet and relax. I told my mom this when
I came back, no other details, since I had cut
my foot at the bachelorette dinner and she saw the
cut a few days later when she was visiting me.
So she used that tiny tidbit of info to infer
that sister in law was screwing around while she knew
I wasn't there. Now, in the past few weeks, my

(40:38):
brother and sister in law have really been making an
effort to repair the relationship. They've been getting better. But
I'm sure it's very obvious that she's not very excited
about her first grandchild. Well, everyone else in the family is.
I think they might chalk it up to the fight
they had and her still being mad about it. What's
the fight? We need more details there, so they have

(40:59):
no idea that my mom always tells me and my
dad that she doesn't want to get excited for a grandchild.
That quote unquote isn't hers. I mean, I think that
sentence is like makes sense, but the context of it
does not. Dude, like it is such a reach. Yeah,
You're you're going off like no information at all, zero information,
zero information. Yeah, I would be asking her, like, where's

(41:21):
your other proof, Like, other than there was a an
hour or two I wasn't there with her directly, You
think that's really what's causing her to that she actually
cheated in that amount of time. I mean, that's all
the proof she has. I mean, it's nuts to extrapolate
that much. Absolutely, maybe there's other information that someone else else. Well,

(41:42):
every time they have an ultrasound. My brother takes videos
of it, and one video even the doctor says, given
the sighs of the baby and development, it looks like
it was conceived the week after the wedding. Okay, but
you know doctor's doctor's paid off. You know he had
on yeah exactly. Of course. Of course doctors can be bought.
He was one, he's the father, so he's fully incentivized.

(42:04):
So you know, make up all the lots. Yeah, the
doctor's a stripper on the side. Oh, I got to
pay for medical skill. He's a doctor and a doctor
and a doctor. Someone order the doctor, let me heal
you baby. The bachelotte was three weeks before that, but
my mom just twists it and says the doctor doesn't
mean it and is just going off. When sister in

(42:25):
law claims, quote unquote her last period was I know
my brother knows something is up, and my mom is
constantly screaming about what a which sister in law is
and how can I support a niece or nephew that
isn't mine That is getting on my nerves. I told
my mom to just tell my brother her concerns if
it's that bad, But I know in the end she
doesn't have the goness side stone. She don't got those stones.

(42:50):
She'll never hurt her firstborn son were hispanic. It's always
going to be sister in law's faults. Should I tell
him that she's feeling this way, I'm worried it'll destroy
them forever and that he'll never talk to my family again.
And if my mom finds out and I told him,
she is going to freak. We have a mini update,
we have comments, but before we dive into all of that,

(43:12):
should op say something? Should Ope go to brother and
sister in law and be like, hey, mom is over
here freaking out saying this kid is not your brother?
I mean, and what like is are we trying to
prevent some kind of scenario from happening by saying this? Yeah,

(43:33):
so basically and a little recap here too. So the
brother and sister in law don't know that Opie's mom
is throwing all this shade, is trying to accuse the
sister in lawn. It's a bunch of it's a bunch
of gossip. She's just been yapping and opeasier about all
of this. So I guess the implication is like she
could make this child's life terrible. She doesn't believe it.

(43:54):
It's her grandchild that will obviously have like make the
brother and sister in law's life terrible. So I guess
it's kind of like, hey, a heads up, a storm
is coming and that storm is named mom. Yeah you know. Hm.
I feel like the mom is definitely out of turn
saying all this stuff. I think probably warning, here's a question, warning?
Is this a what do you think pigeon? Dude? Sophia

(44:19):
took some silly juice today. She's just being silly and
she's just enjoying her own silliness, silliness, just drinking a
gallon of silly juice today. Like I almost feel like,
is it you might might be saying like is this
not my circus? Not my monkey's kind of thing, or
a little bit basically saying hey, I'm tell her or
I will, and you can kind of be bluffing, I think,

(44:41):
at least at first, because right now what is happening
is the mom is putting it on op. Yeah, and
I don't want to hear this. Yeah, Like I don't
want to hear this. I don't want to deal with this.
This is not my circus, So you need to tell them,
and that kind of effectively gets it off of Ope's
back and hopefully will kind of force her hand. Maybe
you bluff at first. If she doesn't tell, though, what
do you do? Maybe at that point you do say

(45:04):
something is hey, you know what, this is this gray area,
but this is your niece or nephew, this is your
your brother and sister in law. It kind of is
your and they seem to have a good relationship. This
is kind of your It's not one hundred percent your circus,
but it's kind of like eighty five percent yourself. I
mean if so, if Sophia was having a kid and
there was all this craziness being said behind her back,

(45:26):
I probably would tell tell her yeah, because I think
what's gonna happen is that there'll be a crash out. Yeah,
so I thought Sophia is hurt by I think crash out.
I think you do do say something? Yeah, And Bobby says,
it's your circus. You're literally one of the monkeys. Ooh
ah ooh. But we have a mini updates followed by
some comments, Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to

(45:47):
these stories. But here's three bits of bad from our
sponsors that keep the show alive mini updates. My mom
just called me and brought this topic up again. I
got really fed up and told her I would tell
my brother. So Op is now at the place we
just talked about there. She straight up laughed and said,
are you going to tell him? It's your fault too?
Apparently because I told her, I, let how is it

(46:08):
her fault? Are you ready? Yeah? Are you ready for this?
Here we go. This is why it's a peace fault.
Apparently because I told her I left the club early
and didn't want what sister in law or anyone else
was up to. I planted the seat in her head right,
She's like, oh, I don't want to stay out. I
don't want to do the clubs. And so sister in
law is like, ooh now I can. Now I got
a free forty five minutes. I can, you know, find

(46:31):
a pad because everyone knows you have to police that
person twenty four to seven exactly. They don't cheat. Yeah,
of course your fault, they do. Yep. So I have
to live with the fact that I told her that
sister in law was screwing around. I said nothing of
the sorts, And now I am really lost. So are
we this is this is insane logic. Op, don't don't worry,

(46:52):
You're not crazy. Yeah, someone else's oh mother in law
or mom. Well, we got some relevant comments too. Weigh
in Commentar number one says this, it seems like a
very extreme reaction for your mother to have had both
the wedding issue and the much bigger now baby issue.
You describe her as quote unquote a bit critical and controlling.
Is what is happening right now consistent with her past

(47:14):
issues or these extraordinary basically? Is this like new? You
know what I mean? Is this new behavior? Were the
red flags before? I do think you should alert your brother.
Your mother is saying really her for one harmful things
and she is bound to say something directly to him
or your sister in law at some point. And if
it were me, I wouldn't want to face that shock
in the moment, i e. When the baby's born, Like

(47:35):
what if she's literally in the hospital room, it just
starts freaking out. That's not a child. Don't don't sign
that to my yah. I mean she is. It is
feeling like unstable behavior and that she's like building up
to something big, but she has she's like kind of
like leaking out of her. You know, it'd be best
for him to address this with her head on. OPI

(47:57):
responds to that this is extraordinary even for her, So
this is maybe she has like kindness, little behavior, but
it's like it's like off the charts. Although she vehemently
denies this, I think she's angry that sister in law's
family is very close with my brother. She keeps talking
about how his new family is excited, but they have
no idea of the truth of their witch daughter. It's

(48:18):
that bad. I think she feels that he was stolen
in a way, but she'd never tell him that. She
always says, I always prayed for him to find a
wife that makes him happy. Why would I be angry
at that except that I would? So we have an update, Uh,
I mean, I think it seems like, oh, he should tell. Yes, Yeah,
I think we're we're all in one hundred percent agreement here,

(48:42):
Opie should tell. But question, what do we predict is
going to happen after this is told? I mean, I
think she's gonna freak. I think she's gonna freak too.
I think it's gonna she's gonna freak so bad it's
gonna end up in a at least a you know,
iPhone lock the timeout scenario or potentially low maybe even
depending on what they feel like them are worth of

(49:05):
timeout area. Yes, like she needs time to chill out. Yeah.
And two I think it could help because she's like like, oh,
my precious little boy, she's rubbed crafting him. If the
precious baby boy. Oh's brother's like, hey, mom, you're completely wrong,
and I'm putting something that will finally make it snap
exactly that that maybe that'll make it click for her.

(49:25):
We can open pray, but we can also know what's
happening today because we have the up. Wow, that is
a close close up. I mean we are really Sophia's
Sophia's just she just like delivered another gallon of silly juice.
It has just been a little little silly goose over there.

(49:48):
All right, let's get into this update. So Hi everyone,
this has been a doozy. I resolved to tell my
brother this info after Christmas. I'm a coward, I know,
but I just didn't want to stress him out any
further this holiday season. I understand. Yeah, yeah, the right
time to tell your brother that it there's absolute craziness
going on. Right, It's hard to say, but right time

(50:09):
replaces important. Yeah Christmas day is not it? Yeah? Yeah Christmas?
But maybe like again early and off ye, Jenny. I
visited him for Christmas and we went to a bunch
buffet with sister in law that sounds fire. While he
and I were getting some food at the tables, he
asked a weirdly specific question. He said, why does mom
keep asking me what the conception was? All right, that's

(50:33):
a direct question that needs a direct answer. This is
the time, this, this is our moment. Later, there's time now.
I knew she had asked sister in law and brother
about this once or twice in the beginning, but I
had no idea she kept doing it. He said that
every time zar on the phone, she asks a question
about it, and not just about dates, but about other
personal things, like sister in law's ovulation cycles, her having

(50:55):
spicy sleep with my brother, her periods, all kinds of
weird personal stuff. Dude, Can you imagine Sophia, your your
mother in law is saying like, hey, can you give
me a chart of your ovulation cycles?

Speaker 3 (51:08):
No?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
No, that's crazy, and like you're the mother in law
wouldn't you recognize how insanely it's already It's already insane
if father in law says that, you know, having you know,
not not being a woman at all, but like you,
where's the empathy? Yeah, I mean you've been through that,
but we got more. So I asked my brother what
he thought the reason was, and of course he hit

(51:30):
the nail on the head. Turns out he's known since
they first announced the pregnancy, using the Socratic method for
him to come to his own conclusions. Indeed, he never
revealed anything. Yes, you knew all alone within you. The
answers were inside. He just wanted to run it by
me and see if his suspicions were way off base
or irrational. I told him the full story, how she

(51:52):
has quote unquote reasonable doubt that it's his, and how
she's convinced that sister in law got pregnant at the
bachelorette party, not by him. And I also told him
her plot to tell him if he ever said at
first that her doubts were placed there by me. Oh wow,
So thank god it didn't get there, you know, And
she would have tried to poison the well exactly, and

(52:13):
and OPI and their brother couldn't have like confided in. Yeah,
but I feel like the brother would would have known.
That's true. With WFE, that's true, he said. Even if
she mentioned me, he would have never believed it because
I have nothing been nothing but supportive of them in
their marriage. Dude, when Sam predicts something, he predicts something right.
Why so close? That's crazy? Why so close? He said
that he knew that's what it was. Deep down, he

(52:36):
was just hoping it somehow. Wasn't the case that his
own mother was basically calling his wife. I mean, he's
she was literally doing that. Yeah. But the last straw
was the fact that my mom started asking sister in
law's mom strange questions as well. I guess a few
days ago. I had no idea my mom even went
this far. Sister in law's mom called my mom to

(52:57):
ask about a restaurant she liked and what she recommended. Apparently,
my mom told her, do you think sister in law
and brother conceived before the wedding? They're gay? It is
weird again, dude, she's asking her mom. She's she's like
her mom. Now you're fixated, dude, It's so I mean,
this is we're getting into like a questionable mental health care.

(53:19):
She can't let go. Yeah, this is like obsessive, Yeah, obsessive. Yeah.
Sister in law's mom said that the doctors have said
multiple times that the conception date was a few days
after the wedding, according to how the baby is growing etxetra.
Basically the honeymoon. Yeah, whoa, you know what there was?
There was? There was thirty two minutes that husband took

(53:40):
a bath. Okay, and you know what you can do
with thirty two minutes? You could she get the bell
boy thirty two times? Now you got a pool boy baby. Yeah,
thirty thirty two times, thirty two times. It's that that
frequency has been done. Yep, it has. There are videos
about it. I guess there are twenty four hours twenty
four hour Yeah, wow, what a video. I haven't seen it,
by the way, but I know it exists. Yep. And

(54:01):
that is right. Shout out to that person. I don't
know who you are. Basically, the baby was conceived during
the honeymoon, which is exactly what brother and sister in
law thought. It was very reasonable, not a secret. Sister
in law's mom is not dumb. She knew exactly what
my mom was trying to ask, So she told my
brother right away about how uncomfortable it was, and she
didn't know what to say, because no matter what, my

(54:22):
mom will skew with some kind of confirmation that it
is not my brother's baby. Brother is quite obviously livid.
He is so tired of my mom making these passive
aggressive accusations under the guise of curiosity. Hey, I'm just curious,
you know, curious why your wife is always hooking up
with other people. Why is your wife trying to get

(54:43):
plowed by all the pool boys and having all their babies.
I'm just I'm just curious. Hey, you know, don't don't
get mad at the person who's asking questions? Yeah, yeah,
you know. Do you get mad at Galileo for saying, hey,
you know, is the Sun going around the Earth? Or
is the Earth going around on the sun? Historically?

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Historical did lock him in his house?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
True facts from Sophia Donna. But he just decided to
cut her off quietly. I know some might find this
week or letting her get away with it, But the
problem is my mom feeds off of the conflict and
anger of the situation. If my brother calls her and
basically tells her to shut the f up. She'll find
this his fuel to try to shut him down and

(55:28):
screen but he's disrespectful and that American kids are disrespectful
to their ale elders. We were born in California, but
she was born in the Latin American country, and she'll
have this fuel to paint him in an even more
negative light to the rest of the family. So yeah,
you know, I don't think about this often, but it's
almost saving the other family and other people at like

(55:49):
op for instance, from catching these strays and getting pulled
into the drama by not giving the fuel up. I've
never really thought about it that way. Interesting way to
process it. Sister in law and other agree that letting
her simmer without even acknowledging her is the best way
to go. By the way, you know what the best
way to go is saying what John, it's to go
to Spotify, Apple I heeart are your favorite podcast app,

(56:13):
and just to bliterate some episodes, obliterate, literate, obliterate your
keyboard typing in Okay story time and getting two thousand
episodes with episodes full of stories just like this to
just binge binge to your hearts can have us in
your ear holes for fifty straight days of original content
and then attempt to convince me you've listened to all

(56:35):
of them. I will be skeptical, but do your apois you,
but we will if you have good facts, we will,
you know, potentially give it to you. But we have
still a little, a little chunk left in the story. Sam,
how are we feeling right now with the I mean
I feel yeah, I mean I feel at least no
contact for a period for a bit, yeah, because this
is uh the same. It seems like this this person's

(56:58):
being pretty restructive and the insight like of hey, every
time mom is just trying to like contact all these
people stoke the flames. If we like stop responding basically
to the fuel, does it does it kind of like
die out as Yeah? I think it does. Yeah. Good.
You can't fixate on something that doesn't have like as
much new information, you know, it's or at least it's

(57:19):
harder to do one hundred percent one hundred percent. But
let's find out how this story is. So, I too,
have decided to limit my contact with her. I think smart.
I've always known she is a horrible toxic person. But
no one saw her taking her negativity quite this far.
It makes me fearful for my significant other how she
would treat him, especially since he's not Latino. F that,

(57:40):
I think we will all be happer in the long
run without having to walk on eggshells around her. I'm
just excited for the birth of my future niece or nephew.
I can't wait to spoil hym slash her. Edit. In
terms of cutting my parents off, I am not worried
about losing anything. I am completely financially independent, so nothing
can be held over my head. They've done this before.
Hopefully distancing myself will not be too art. All right, Well,

(58:04):
I mean, at least it seems like you can create
a clean break for the sake of your own mental piece. Yes,
which is good and again great call up by OP.
Help diffuse the situation by everyone not giving her something
fuel to stoke the fire. Stoke the flames with and
maybe this dies down, maybe she has some time to

(58:24):
reflect and maybe and change your mind. Maybe not, but
at least it doesn't get everyone sucked into the drama
and take over your lives. Yeah, I agreed, but that
is where that story and this episode ends. Says so,
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