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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Cowboy Sam and this is ye how John,
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to help this show stay alive. My mother in.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Law demanded a paternity test. I gave her a legal wake.
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Up jokes hun her using.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
A throwaway so I can get an impartial opinion. Since
the two halves of our families are so completely split
over this mess, I apologize for the length of this post.
I'm twenty female and getting married in an official ceremony
in a few months to my legal husband twenty one
mil of two years, and his mother has been planning
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the real wedding difficult since the day we got engaged.
By the way, this comes from mild Nasty and if
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of inplied by the title, My husband and I initially
became engaged due to an unexpected pregnancy that popped up
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while we were dating, and now we are the proudest
parents of twins who are now one year's old. I
honestly don't blame mother in law for her initial negative reactions,
since we had been seeing each other secretly and husband
and his family learned about the pregnancy at the same
time when my sister twenty female kind of lost her
crap after finding out and went over to their house
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to punt his butt and started a physical alteration that
ended with husband going to the emergency room for minor injuries.
It was an entire mess, but after a lot of
talking and arguments, I won't lie. Husband was excited to
be having kids despite the timing and circumstances. We got
engaged immediately since he's fairly religious and wanted to avoid
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the social stigma around having kids out of wedlock, especially
since it was something that badly affected my family growing
up due to rumors started about my parents, partly by
his mother. Mother in law actually fought then with husband
about the children belonging to him, and after some things
were said, he moved into my family's home, where we
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stayed until we moved into our own place. Context mother
in law has doubts because for many years my parents
were in lavender marriage situation.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Basically just means that one of one or.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Both were gay and we're doing IVF while also mutually
dating a third and my father was separately seeing his
own partner during this time. My brothers and I don't
look much like our legal father at the time. If
I'm going to be honest in all likelihood, and in
all likelihood, our biological father is my parents' third. However,
my parents didn't care how we were conceived and raised
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us as my father's children in every way. My mother
in law and mother were friends for years before falling
out badly and were in the same social circles. Mother
in law took personal offense to the unconventional dynamic in
my family and made a spectacle of my mother every
time she had a child before remarrying. My husband knew
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for a fact that the babies were his, however, and
trusts me when I told him as much. We had
her own kids and plan to get married before they
turned one. A husband's schoolwork and family issues we both
had to deal with on top of our raising the
twins meant we had to rain check our first attempt.
Now just a few months before our official wedding. Mother
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in law raises the issue again about a paternity test. Ooh,
my son looks exactly like my husband, especially in his
old baby photos, aside from his eye color being a
darker shade and his hair having a curl to it.
Inherited from me, She's.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Like, I don't trust that this is your husband's because
it kind of looks like you, and it should only
look like your husband.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
My daughter, on the other hand, looks just like mother
in law. I swear, I'm not kidding. She has my
hair color, but aside from her eyes, she has husband's
eye color, and she looks like mother in law in
a miniature. Despite the physical evidence, She says there is
obvious doubt due to my mother's history and implied that
I was unfaithful to my husband in the past because
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of the example I grew up with and the fact
we didn't start our relationship the right way. Aside from
not seeing husband for two months when we got into
a major fight and some cruel things were said about
by both of us, we have talked and settled this fully.
I have known him my entire life and spent half
of it being his best friend and the other half
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in love with him. Even with my parents completely agreed
upon family dynamics. I saw firsthand the questionable nature of
the paternity of my brothers and I led to years
of drama until they divorced and resulted in a lot
of insecurity that we had to cope with. I loved
my husband and never wanted him to experience even a
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moment of doubt in his head about the day depth
of my feelings and loyalty. My mother in law chose
the day of the announcement of our wedding date to
approach me in private to push for the DNA test
and completely brought down my mood in seconds. Since I
thought we were long past all of this. She spent
so much time with the twins in the last few
months before asking for the test, and now I have
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to worry about how she treated them when we weren't there,
and if she said anything bad in front of them.
She kept using my daughter's appearance as an example of
my indiscretions and insisted the only reason my son looks
like my husband is because my mother shares features with him,
and that they and that when they get older, their
true father's features would come out and her son would
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come out to his senses.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
She's like, Oh, they just happened to share features. That's
why they're not Pokemon. They're not gonna look completely different
as they evolve. It doesn't make any sense. It looks
like your husband because it's your husband's child.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
She said she wouldn't let her son be subject to
what occurred between my parents, and that she would fight
for him even if he lost sight of reality because
I was just as loose as my mother and wrapped
him around my finger. So she even had the gall
to imply that if both of the twins had been girls,
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husband would it be as inclined to believe he was
the father and would have called for a separation.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
This girl, this woman is wacky.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
How about you worry about being like the best grandma you.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Post can be to you? Why would she? Why won't
she give it up? Give it a rest man.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It was around that time that I lost it on
Her husband adores our daughter just as much as our
son and has talked about wanting more kids in the future.
She's brought this up in my parents' house as well,
since they hosted the gathering where we announced their wedding date,
which made my blood boiled because she didn't have the
dynecy to wait a while so she wouldn't disrespect me
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in the home I grew up when grew up in
I called her a min witch who couldn't stand the
thought of other people being happy in their own relationships,
and told her if she had that much doubt about
the twins paternity, then she wouldn't be around them any more. Okay, exactly, okay.
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I like her telling, yeah, man, you might as well.
There would be no DNA test, and if one was
conducted without my permission, then I would pursue legal action
and drag her name through the mud.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
In returns drag.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Her name, that's how we do it.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Get the law on your side. Man.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
She wouldn't be going to the wedding either, since she
was so determined for it not to happen.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Here.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I know I was in the wrong because I didn't
talk to husband before disinviting her. More personal things were said.
The entire fight got loud for some people, all family
thankfully to overhear me, all but punting her out. Thankfully,
she left without too much of a fuss, likely because
of the scene it would have made. But afterwards husband's
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brother twenty five mil chimed in that I reacted too
harshly and should just do the test to reassure their
mother and move on. Their grandfather also agreed, saying it
would settle the matter once and for all, and putting
it off so far has brought on the exact suspicion
that I wanted to avoid it in the first place.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I say, I think you get that DNA test, and
then you go, no, conduct, that's what it costs. Yeah,
you go, okay, fine, you can have your DNA test,
but then after I want to see you guys. Ever again.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
My stepfather threw husband's grandfather out afterwards, as he worn
out his welcome by then, and ended the celebration. My
family reassured me in the aftermath that I was well
within my right to be angry that she brought up
the DNA test, But I noticed that husband stayed to
the side with the twins and didn't respond even when
we went home not too long afterwards. I think he
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might be upset with me for how I treated his
mother and is waiting for a good time to bring
it up. Since it's likely a fight might start, and
we always try to make sure the twins aren't around
when they happen, we're dropping them off at their maternal grandparents' house. Later. Well,
I'll be hearing his feelings on this then, By the way,
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you can hear us talk about feelings in other people's
situations on your favorite freaking podcast platform. What do they
gotta go to?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I Radio, Spotify have a podcast and so.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Feel What eleven letters do people have to type in
order to get to their favorite podcast?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Okay, story time.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And boom there will be a plethora of stories just
as this one for you to listen to.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yes, it's true.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, no contact.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Honestly, if they keep pushing the issue, I think you
tell them. I think you could say, like, hey, you
can I have your DNA test, but it will cost
this relationship.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Is that worth that to you? I don't think there's
a sport.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You just got in contact. Yeah, I think that'd be
a pretty good I think that'd be a pretty good guess.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I'm worried that even if I was right for being upset, Yes,
I went too far by getting so heated and raising
my voice, as well as for throwing out personal bars
when I should have tried to stay calm and refuse
her like an adult. I really regret calling her what
I did and plan on apologizing for that no matter
what judgment I get here. So am I the a hole?
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We have one comment? Come at one, not the a hole.
Tell mother in law you'll get the paternity test with
the understanding that when it comes back that he's the father,
she will never contact you again. No visits to the house,
no texts, nothing. On a side note, wtf does your
mom's spicy life have to do with you? Opie says
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she is thoroughly convinced that I'll somehow forced my husband
into an open marriage of some kind due to what
my mother did, despite my mother and I situation being
completely different. Guys, that's the end of that story.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
My sister in law tried to take my house, so
I revealed the truth. I cast spell Reveal Truth. Wooh,
throwaway for obvious reasons. This happened two nights ago, and
I'm still feeling some type of way about it. Background.
My thirty female husband thirty two male has a younger
sister sister in law twenty five female sister in law
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is currently going through divorce with four children. My husband
and I also have four children. My husband and I
live on a very quiet country back road in our
little town, us and his family being the only residences
on the road. So both his sister and their families
and his parents live within walking distance upper house. By
the way, this comes from throw that asterisk on the
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r slashowkay storytime separate it. So. My husband and I
have been married for seven years and have four young children.
My husband bought the land we live on from his
parents when he was eighteen wow. And when we got married,
we built a house on it. We designed our house
with a big family and mind and designed it to
be our forever home. It has never been a thought
to move or look elsewhere. My sister in law is
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going through a She is struggling, to say the least.
She was in a very toxic relationship with the rex,
with her contributing just as much as he was, and
he filed for divorce and moved out, leaving the four
kids with her. My mother in law called my husband
two nights ago and asked if we could come over
for a chat. We get there and my in laws
and sister in law are sitting on the couch like
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they were staging some kind of intervention. It was just
really strange. My mother in law didn't beat around the
bush at all. She explained how sister in law's ex
was getting the house in the divorce and they would
be homeless within the month if we didn't give her
our home. It honestly took me a second to comprehend,
which she even said because it was so out of
left field. Husband didn't need that second and look at
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them straight in the eyes and said no. In law
started telling us things like, you guys don't need all
that house. You guys can move into one of the
new neighborhoods in town. You guys could just build a
new house. I offered to open up our playroom and
guest bedroom to them. Yeah, that's a sensible solution until
they could find somewhere to live. We have air mattresses
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and the guest room as a full bath. But that
wasn't good enough. Apparently that's when we got up and left.
They began yelling after us, saying we don't care about
the children. Family helps family, We're being greedy and selfish.
I'm honestly so proud of how we reacted, because my
first instinct was to go off and say some hurtful things,
but we went home to our home. We love sister
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in law's kids and obviously do not want them to
be homeless, but they don't need my house at the
expense of my own children and family. I don't know
why sister in law's family deserves my home. What about
my kids? Now the in laws are calling and texting
saying we don't care about the kids. We're selfish and greedy.
We're making her homeless. And I'm wondering if maybe we
were too quick to say no. So am I the
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ale for not giving my home to my sister in law? No,
don't give your home to someone that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
It would be very different if they were like just
for like a temporary stay, however long they need to
get back on their feet.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, don't give up your home. Also, touch to your
sister in law directly and say hey, we'd be happy
to host you guys. Have you here until you can
get back on your you know, find someplace. I'm not
going to just give you my house.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, you don't get you just to have my house.
You can just move into one of the new neighborhoods.
Is one of the most insane things I've ever heard.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Insane relevant comments. Cruel summer not the ale. You can't
be making someone homeless when you have literally offered them
space in your own home. Yeah, sister in law is
making herself homeless by turning down offers of assistance because
they aren't exactly what she's going for. She's really the
selfish and greedy one because she insists on displacing your
family rather than humble herself to live temporarily in someone
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else's home. Sometimes it sucks to suck, and for sister
in law, this may be one of those times. But
word to the wise, take your offer off the table.
You've already seen that they are willing to resort to
anything to get you to bend and cave. They aren't
interested in respecting you, treating you with dignity. When sister
in law gets desperate, she may finally agree to your offer,
but that doesn't mean the bullying will stop. Likely it'll
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get worse, and she'll try to make your life miserable
from within your own home until you're forced to consider
consider punting her out, And then the guilt trips will
get a thousand times worse as you are now literally
punning her out onto the street instead call ther bluff
and say, we are very disappointed with how little respect
this family has for our family, our children, and our
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own home. In light of this, the previous offer to
open up the playroom to sister in law is no
longer on the table, as we feel it would be
a mistake to try and share space with someone who
clearly has no respect for us. We rest easy in
knowing that all of the rest of you, who are
clearly not as greedy or selfish as us, are likely
waiting with open arms to accept sister in law and
her kids into your homes so she will have somewhere
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to go without her offer. Ooh, that's a nice response,
Opie responds, My husband has already told sister in law
that she isn't welcome anymore. But honestly, if it came
down to it, I would take the kids in a heartbeat.
They didn't ask for this and they're struggling so much.
But sister in law can sleep in the shed and
sushi MENO. Box says, how is the ex getting the
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house if she's the one with the kids, assuming that
they're his kids, that is, Opie says, the house is his,
bought and paid for by the hymn without her contributing
a cent, so that definitely factors in. But from my understanding,
she can't buy him out because she has no money,
and the in laws can't or won't buy him out either.
And I'm also understanding that he is paying quite a
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pretty penny in child support, so I don't think she
would get the house paid for by him and child support.
She may have had to pick one or the other,
and I can say with certainty she would choose child
support money.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Go figure.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah, dog mother one two three says, your in laws
are old, their family is grown up now, they don't
need their house. They should stop being so selfish and
move out somewhere smaller so their daughter can out their house.
Why are they making they're homeless? Why don't they care
about their grandkids? How is any of that reasonable? Not
the able?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, exactly them being like, you're breaking the kids homeless.
It's like, how about you? No, you you are also
doing that.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I knew you. My husband has been dealing with his
parents and sister. I've been ignoring all the text and calls.
But but from what they're saying, their house is too small,
only two bedrooms, and they need something bigger for the
kids to be able to thrive. So obviously that means
my own kids have to be moved out of the
home they've all lived in for their whole lives and
just go somewhere else. Well, my husband and I still
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pay for them to live in our house because sister
in law doesn't work and has no plans to.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And there is an update.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But man, oh man, how entitled these people who don't
have the funds to be this entitled? Yeah, like you guys,
don't you You cannot be this entitled when you literally
have nowhere else to go.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well, it sounds like because the their setup was from
an inheritance situation right where it's like the land at
least was inherited.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
No, it was the grandfather.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Well from what I understood, I think maybe the parents
had narrated and Opie's husband bought it when he was eighteen.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, he bought it from them, bought it when he
was eighteen, That's what I said. I feel like they're
either there's a wealth disparity going on here that's driving
this entitlement where they're just like, well, you already have
all the money.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's like, just make more money and buy another house.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
But there is an update. So as a lot of
you and myself thought sister in law was lying about
a thought. Not going to go into too much detail
because it's seriously years worth of lies. But my husband
and I call the ex brother in law and we
one hundred percent fully believe everything her ex told us.
He has no reason to lie to us and said
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over and over he just wants the best for his
kids and he's trying his best not to do anything
that could possibly harm in a court of law. She
lied about him getting the house, lied about how much
she was going to get in child support, lied about
how often she would have a children. Something else that
came out is that her oldest child is not even
her ex's child.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh my god, this lady, why are her pants on fire?
Could she do? She a liar?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Just so many lies. We feel so incredibly stupid and
deceived and disgusted. To be honest, we told my in
laws everything he had said, and they were upset to
find out she has been lying, but they kind of
doubled down, saying she must have a good reason. She's
backed into a corner. She's really going through a tough time.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Golden child had a.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Bunch of other nonsense. Sister in law was called and
asked to come and join us. She of course took
zero accountability for the lying and sneaking, and was screaming
at us about how gross we were for going behind
her back to her ex how she'll never trust us
again because we betrayed her. Oh no, boohoo. She also
let us know that she was asking for our house
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because she truly feels like we had actually built it
for her. That's so funny, because I didn't. They didn't.
Our kids' rooms were how she would have designed them herself.
She would have loved to cook in my kitchen, she
loves my bathroom layout. Basically everything about my house is
how she would have built it herself. And she thinks
that I must have somehow known she would have needed
a home in the future.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
All right, mental help she needs. I don't know, she heads,
I don't know she needs therapy. But like that is
one of the most insane things billionaire's mansion.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Wow, you really, you really knew I would want all
of this? Oh my god, you did all this for me.
This is exactly what I should have I would have
done the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
No, we know this is our this is our this
is our house.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Bye. At that point I was just done and so
was my husband. Can't argue with batcrap crazy. We left
a whole lot of screaming about no longer being family
and did not expect to see them again.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Thank God, we don't want to.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Honestly, I think never seeing them again is the only
way to go from here. It's been a crazy few
days since then. We hired a friend of my husband
to put up a privacy fence around our entire property
and added extra cameras to our security system. We have
a good family friend, friend of our family not husbands
on the police force, and let him know the situation
so he knows if he gets a phone call from
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us that it's serious. I think sister in law thought
that she could out my house because she loved it.
That's kind of it. She wanted it, so she thought
she deserved it. I guess she was either planning to
sell her house at some point or maybe rented out.
I have no idea, and I really don't think she
had thought that all the way through. She just thought
if she told us all she was losing the house,
then we would feel obligated to help in the way
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Speaker 2 (21:39):
It is what we want, what we want, but.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
There's a little bit left to the story. I think
we all know you're not the egg hole, though.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well I would be.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
This level of derangement is like, I'm concerned that you
for one second seriously thought that, uh, we were just
gonna give you the house because you like it.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yep, just ignore her. No contact, low contact, one of those.
But let's finish this off. So I hope this clears
up some questions. I know I feel at peace with
the situation. My husband has been grieving a bit. He's
sad that his parents have chosen a liar over a
man who has done everything for his family, never hesitated
to help, and only ever been a doting son. But
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I think this is for the best. They don't treat
him the way he deserves, and I'm glad to be
rid of him. I'm sad for my kids and the
situation this puts them in, but my family has enough
love for everyone Thank you to everyone who took the
time to comment and message and give advice and ask questions.
Hopefully you guys won't hear from me again, and that
is the end of that story. It looks like we
didn't hear and we didn't hear from you again, So
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I'm gonna assume that it all worked out.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It did. I'm gonna mentally say that it all worked out.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
All worked out, and you got your beautiful house with
all of your kids. Yeah, my mother in law lied
about my wedding. Now I'm the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Ooh ooh, she turned it into Billie Eilish Shell.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I am a longtime reader, first time posting. It has
been a few years since our wedding. However, I told
the friend our wedding story recently and realized how actually
crazy it was, so I thought I would share. First
of all, we did not have a traditional wedding and
never would. My future husband and I had our fill
of weddings that take lots of effort and money. We
literally wanted our families to turn up, celebrate with us,
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have a nice time, and then leave happy. By the way,
this comes from indubitably doubtful and if you want to
submit your own stories go to our slash Okay storytime.
Separate it. So the plan was that we would have
a celebrant to marry us in a family friend's cocktail bar,
have drinks, cocktails and some food, and then people could
come back to an apartment we had rented for the
after party fun immediate family only and done our idea
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of perfect We also did not have much money and
I have a very large extended family Andrew plus, so
we were very strict immediate family only. I would invite
my immediate family, and future husband would invite his immediate
family and his aunt and cousins from one side of
the family because he does not speak to the other side.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
No friends.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You invite one friend, then you have to invite them all.
Simple and small. My family was fine with us. Future's
future husband's family was not drama number one.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
The date.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
We had limited time to get married due to paperwork
deadlines and my sister was going overseas for a long period.
We had about one to two months of prep time
and the choice of two saturdays, one on my sister's
birthday and the other four days before or after future
sister in law's birthday. We picked the latter, but we
were firmly told that this was inappropriate because it was
future sister in law's birthday weekend and therefore, hey, what
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ruin our birthday? My sister was fine, so we got
married on her actual birthday instead. Yeah, because she's an adult. Right.
Drama Number two the invite list. Future husband's family has
a very long list of family friends and was upset
that we did not invite them. They were also upset
that future husband decided not to invite this to the
family that no one likes. It was very much we
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must keep up with a parents' conversation. The issue of
not inviting the other half of future husband's extended family
continued until future husband gave his parents an ultimatum, either
one side comes or none of them do. I was
very proud of how he stood up for himself. I
was not really a part of this, but it was
very stressful. I am good friends with future husband's relatives
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that he was inviting, and they approached me saying they
would not be offended if we did not invite them
because they could see it was causing drama. So clearly
there were lots of mine the scenes discussions regardless of
their clear dislike of our plans. We went ahead, but
then it just got worse. Drama. Three cake gate, not
the cake. Future mother in law casually asked one day
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if she could make the cake. I did not even
want a cake because they are a complete waste of
time and money. And future husband said he did not
want or to because he just wanted everyone to relax
and not do anything. We did not think anything of it.
Later I had breakfast with a friend future husband's relative,
and they said that future mother in law was upset
I would not let her make our wedding cake. Why
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would I not let future mother in law make our
wedding cake? All this again with no discussion to my
face about it. This escalated the point where we went
to shop, took future mother in law tasted cakes and
she bought us one a cake that I could not
eat because of my food intolerance. But whatever, I did
not care. Dram Another four the dress. I made a
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very simple wedding dress with my mom, had a great
time making it, and we'll keep those memories closed for
a long time. Future mother in law and future sister
in law ambushed me in the kitchen one day asking
a bunch of questions about why I was doing what
I was doing, and suggested I check out x y
Z website if I wanted something cheap, or maybe she
wants something that she made with her mom.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, maybe she wants something beautiful. She already has it
done and is already ready to go.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (26:55):
But that was not the point. I just reiterated that
I was happy making my dress with my mom. They
were not happy with this. On the actual wedding day,
future husband and I got ready together and met everyone
at the bar. The only stressful thing about the wedding
was literally the in laws, but the actual wedding day
made it worse and I have spent a lot of
time trying to focus on the good things, but it
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was very hard. Drama number five so surprised. Future sister
in law has this tone of voice she uses when
trying to be sincere. It's like Regina and Mean Girls
when she gives a compliment, but internally Hazza. The tone
of voice is always accompanied by nice a smile and
a high pitched tone. I've witnessed many Christmas presents accepted
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with this insincere tone, only for them to be returned
the next day, So future sister in law walks into
the bar, gives me a very socially appropriate kiss on
each cheek, and then says, in her trying but feeling
to be sincere tone, oh oh pee, I'm so surprised
he looks so nice. I think it's safe to say
that one thing every wedding guest is expected to do
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is say nice things to the bride, regardless of how
casual the wedding is. That was not a great start today,
and it was just an overall mean and witchy thing
to say, regardless of how I looked.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, it's very rused being like I'm surprised you look nice.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Surprise you look nice.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I didn't know you could look that nice.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I expected you to look terrible today, but I guess
you look all right.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Drama number six speech My future father in law made
a speech that somehow included a discriminatory joke and finished
with a series of sestaball and chain jokes about how
my future husband would no longer have any money or
a life of his own, et cetera. My mom told
me later that she felt very uncomfortable and that the
things he said were unnecessary. She was right, and it
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made me feel like his family thought I was some
kind of gold digger, which, as I was the only
person currently employed in our relationship at the time, could
not have been further from the truth. Drama Number seven,
the Little White Big Lie, was the icing on top
of what was generally a pretty crap wedding experience for me.
Despite our good intentions to have something fun and relaxing,
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there will always be someone there to bring it down,
I guess. After the wedding, both my husband and I
were confronted with the fact that my mother in law
had lied to all of her friends and family about
our wedding. My husband found this out when he was
interrupted at dinner with a relative. After starting to talk
about our wedding, mother in law proceeded to tell an
elaborate story about how it was all a surprise, how
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we just invited them for lunch, how brother in law
was in on it because they flew interstate for the
surprise lunch, and how they all turned up shock but
it was lovely. She said, we practically eloped, and that
they were sorry and they could not come. My husband
had to sit and listen to this unravel. He went
along with it because the alternative was telling his relative
that his mother was a liar. Tell them, yeah, let
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him know, be like, oh mom, what are you doing?
That's not how it went, you know that. Lots of
discussions followed about how we felt his family was ashamed
of our choices. They denied it, but we then found
out they continue to perpetuate the lie. I experienced a
similar situation with some different family friends who asked me
why we had a surprise wedding. I was caught off
guard and went with the lie. But I was annoyed
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and approached mother in law the next day. Stop going
with a lie. But you know it's not a lie.
You can listen to full episodes and stories just like this.
Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeart Radio and
search a Pokey story time.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
And that is the truest thing I've heard all day.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
But do you have any final thoughts?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Man, Like, don't be afraid to put people on blast
when they're blasting you, dude, Like.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Actually, I mean like she's not even there, Like just
be like, no, that's not true, who told you that?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And then you don't have to be like and she's
a disgusting, despicable, irredeemable lie.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Just so, I like, you don't even have to call
her out by name. We can just say, oh, no,
we did it like this. I don't I don't know
where you hear that.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, I don't know why she thought that. That's weird though,
that she thought that. But that's not what happens.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
That's not what happened. Yeah, stop going on with along
with the lie. Oh, he continues. I was upset and
asked her why she liked to everyone. She said she
didn't want to anyone's feelings to be hurt, that they
were not invited, and that it was not a big
deal because I lie all the time. I even lied
to my husband just this morning.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Okay, side, what a wonderful partner to have.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, wow, yikes, safe to say I have some trust
issues now ha ha ha. But my husband and I
are happily married and stronger than ever. And on that note,
I think I should leave it there. I should go
focus on the good things, right, Yes, And that is
the end of that story.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Hey, it's Sam. We'll get back to the stories. But
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Speaker 4 (31:35):
I forbade my fiance to go to dinner with her boss.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
She got furious.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I'm basically at the point of breaking off my relationship
with my fiance. WHOA, because I'm so frustrated by this
whole thing. I guess the question is among my last
solvos to see if I'm being an a hole and
unreasonable or if the problem is on her end. By
the way, this comes from Amma the Ahole John And
if you want to sumit your own stories, go to
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our Slashowkay story Time Separate It. So been with fiance
for several years now. She recently graduated and got an
amazing char job with a pretty high profile we get
Your UI Charges Dropped type law firm. The guy who
started the firm is known across as being an ambulance chaser,
chaser sister, and scammer because very frankly, he's trying to
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portray that in his commercials. I've met him a couple
of times, and in person he's a little better, but
I still feel kind of like I need a shower.
So right after New Year's wife came home and announced
that lawyer dude is taking the whole staff out to
celebrate on January twentieth because it was the firm's biggest
years ever. This is the timeline as near as I
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can remember. January fifth, She tells me to keep January
twentieth open because s o's are invited. Ool, I can
do that. January eighth, Sorry she was mistaken. It's just
a work party. She tells me. It's cool if I
make other places that night, no problem. January thirteen, she
lets it slip. It's not really a party for the
old office, just for the people. Boss think we're part
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of the success. I'm starting to get a little WTFI here.
January fourteenth. Miraculously, all the people going to dinner with
the boss are under the age of thirty and female.
Now alarm bells are really going off. January eighteenth, the
list is down to two people, my wife and another
new attorney. So if I'm hearing this correctly, the two
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people mainly responsible for this twenty year old company's biggest
year ever are both recent college grads, both female, and
both around twenty five. Beyonce says, aren't you proud of me? Today?
The big day? The boss texts her at like eleven
am and says, hey, since this is supposed to be
a celebration. Don't drive, I'll send a car service for you.
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Beyonce still doesn't smell anything fishy, so I ask her,
just for my own edification, to ask what he says.
If she tells him, that's a great offer. But my
fiance knows the restaurant and he can drive me. Boss
replies back in seconds. Sorry, I had to change restaurants
at the last minute. I'll send the car. My fiance
looks at me, apparently without the screeching submarine claxon and
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cleag lights that are going off in my head, and says, see,
it's all cool. I'll just take the car service. I'm
freaking the f out. I told her that she can't go.
She called me a controlling ale. I told her that
the whole thing has been shady as f and I
relaid out the timeline I just posted above, using my
texts and emails from her as evidence. She said, that's
me ording evidence like this is an example of how
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I'm a controlling a hole, and she wants to go
to dinner mill more than ever. I told her I
might be an ahole, but I'm not stupid. She told
me over and over again. He's married he can't do
anything that will affect his marriage. So you're being the
stupid one that leads me to believe that even she
understands the larger implications that are at play here. She
locked herself in her bedroom and hasn't come out for
at least an hour.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
She's like, he's married exactly.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I think that. I mean, like she's definitely naive, like
that's a fault, but like I think, I think she
might just be naive.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's so naive though I know, well he's married and
no one's ever did on there spouse.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I agree. I agree. I don't know what to do.
I can't beat the door down or yell at her.
And I think if this is one of those situations,
whether she was on the other foot, she'd be freaking
the she'd be freaking the f out. And I see
her reaction and just call it off. Am I the
a hole? And there is an edit? It's five point
thirty here. The car service picked her up at five fifteen.
(35:28):
I guess it's up to fate now, whether I'm controlling
a hole or if she just didn't see whatever was
coming uh and at it too. She just got home
and only said I don't want to fing talk about it.
She's back talking to who I assume is her sister.
I'm defying my every desire at Evesdrop. So I don't
know what happened. It's only eight forty five, so I
don't think anything super crazy happened. I'm just glad she's home.
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If it's appropriate, I'll update again when I know more.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, it looks like she figured it out.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
But do you do you think that she went into
it knowing you now?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I think I think she did go into it being
like this no one.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
He just won't accept that I'm just like the best
worker ever and that I'm so cool and my boss
wants to give me a million dollars because I'm just cool.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah. I think that she was so defensive and being
naive and then she went there and probably he hit
on her and she's.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Like once sometimes bosses are like that, but not I
don't in this case.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Sometimes yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Like there's very rare, Like the bosses are like really
cool and they do like I'll take I'll like it's
gonna be like a team dinner or like it's a raise,
you know, or like you know what, happy like happy
birthday or happy holiday, something like that.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I honestly think that if OPI had like I'm not
blaming it on Pe, but I do think that if
he had approached the conversation with her differently of like
less emphasizing that she was being stupid. And again, it's
not his fault because like she was being I.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Don't know of any level of to be naive enough
to be like, he's married, there's nothing that could happen
because he's married.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Absolutely absolutely, but it is sure.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
That's crazy, but it's a delusion. That's not even naivety,
that's your being. You're deluded.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I think it would have probably been a more effective
conversation if he had been like, let's focus on your
safety rather than you're stupid. He's trying to look up
with you. Another edit, This really doesn't pertain to am
I the ale anymore, just people asking for an update.
She gets to dinner and it's just her, a coworker,
and her boss in a private dining room at a hotel.
The boss straight up says he's banging another girl and
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wants my fiance to join them.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh, congratulations, you've earned the quarterly reward.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Also, I feel so sad yeah, this woman.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
No, that sucks.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I feel so so like this literally like hurts my heart.
He has an understanding with his wife and says he
can do amazing things for my fiance. She's pissed. She
didn't see this coming, but she's still mad at me
for being controlling. She's not happy at all and is
talking about breaking up. Sucks all around, But I'm relieved
she's safe. Just giving her some space for a while,
and there is an update.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
If she breaks up for you for this, that's the
most ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Thing I've I think that this was all just like
the conversation was not had in an effective way. Update
fair enough. She didn't speak to me all day Monday,
and the last words I heard from her were Sunday night.
After she got home, she slammed the door to our bedroom, saying,
you're still a controlling a hole and we're breaking up. Wow.
Her nuclear bomb is always saying we're breaking up whenever
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she doesn't have the upperhand in an argument. So I
didn't make much of it.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
That's leave this really, that's unhealthy. I get out of there,
get out.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
In reality, I was just relieved that she was home
and apparently nothing bad happened at the dinner, so, like
I said, Monday, she didn't say a word to me.
I was only able to get into our bedroom into
our bedroom to grab some clothes, and I couched it
again Monday night.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
She was pissed, she was embarrassed that she didn't see
it coming, and she was angry at me. I figured
i'd give her some space, so I did. Tuesday morning,
I noticed she was getting ready for work. I couldn't
keep my mouth shut any longer, and increduous, incredulously asked
if she was really going back to that effing job.
She said, why, what a't I? I told her because
the affing owner of the company had spent a month
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manipulating her into a threesome with this other little side piece.
She said, I was an effing idiot. I was flabbergasted.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Is this law? Because that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Your girlfriend is a cutthroat and she will stop at
nothing to attain more levels of power and prestige.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
She's a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
If anything, she's probably more mad that you're together, so
that she couldn't have like manipulated that opportunity in her favor.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Somebody, I don't I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I mean, I'm not condoning the boss's actions.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I'm just saying when I didn't realize this whole time,
I saw a comment that said something about lawyers.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I think that the fact that she's a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Is like that a lot of that makes sense to
me just because of lawyers, not because she's a woman
or a man or anything.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I just I think that, like, separate from this, I
think they should break up because clearly the communication is
just so like not there and her being like, oh,
I'm breaking up and hop people be like, oh yeah.
She always says that that's messed up. As she stopped
around the house putting on her shoes and makeup, I
told her that if she showed up to the office
today and didn't quit or follow up with the state bar,
he would know that she was okay with what happened,
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at least on the surface, even if she didn't have
spicy sleep with him. He now knew that she had
a really high tolerance for his bs and he was
going to keep working at her. I also reminded her
that she had an MBA with a focus in HR
and it shouldn't take an e fing redneck auto mechanic
to tell her the scrap I own a foreign specialty
auto repair facility with my uncle. Her last words to
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me were, yes, fing Ale, I am the professional you aren't,
and she slammed the door. So Tuesday, I had no
idea what I was going to do. I knew in
my heart I needed to end the relationship. Her situation
with her boss, notwithstanding her methods of fighting, name calling,
silent treatment were just not acceptable, but I still wasn't
sure from her standpoint. A lot of women don't leave
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those situations or even I mean, that was the whole
METO movement. Like a lot of women will not talk
about the situations that happened with people in you know,
positions of power because they don't want to get fired,
they don't want to get blacklisted from things.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Well, it's like it's really easy to have a moral
stance when there's like no actual stakes for you.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
But it's like in this case, it's like.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
There are she's gonna lose her job, she's gonna lose
her reputation, she's gonna lose her Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
It's like, I mean people go.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Around and say, oh, well, she was just a pretty face.
You just wanted to Baffer. But on the other side
of the relationship, I completely agree she's bad at communicating.
She's blaming op for all of this thing, But I
am calling that telling them that they're going to break
up relationship is clearly not working at all.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Yeah, so I feel like that those are kind.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Of anytime you have a case where your partner is
like using, we're gonna just break up, like in an argument,
because like that's listen to them, Listen to them and
break up with them.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
I agree. She got home Tuesday and was clearly rattled
by something. She was still silent, but it was a
sad silent, not an angry silent, if that makes sense.
She absolutely would not tell me what was wrong, but
she didn't lock herself in the room this time. She
sat almost catatonic on the couch watching a Big Bang Theory,
which he hates. My assumption she afked him her or
both she gave in to him. I have no proof
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of this, but after all the bs, after the quick
change in her behavior, it's the only thing I can
think happened. In my head and heart. We are broken up.
It's not just a matter of separating our crap figuring
out what to do with the lease on our apartment,
canceling the small amount of wedding planning we've done, and
oh yeah, telling her she may be feeling She may
be feeling the same way and be done with me too,
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which honestly may make this easier for everyone. Brother.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
She said that she was done.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
She said she was breaking out with you. My heart
goes out to her because I do care about her,
and if she did have spicy sleep with her balls
under his BS pretense, I imagine she feels like crap. But
I tried to warner. I saw it coming from a
mile away. No, I didn't use the correct words and
trying to warner, and I take no pleasure in being right,
but I did try and edit. She's home about two
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and a half hours early. She said she wants to
take a shower and talk after she's done. I really
don't want to do another update, but I will. Obviously,
this is so much passed whether I'm an Ahle or not,
and just into keeping people who wanted to know informed.
For some people, I'm a victim, for others, I'm a victimizer.
I asked for people's opinions, so I will try very
hard to keep both in mind going forward and see
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her thank you for your input. So update. She got
home at three point thirty. She was still very pissy
and told me not to ask her any questions until
she got out of the shower and said she wanted
to talk them. She usually gets home at six pm
on the dot, so I knew something was up. I
said that was fine, but was literally on pins and
needles until she came back to our computer room where
I was working around four fifteen. She comes out with
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a towel wrapped around her head and just one around
her waist. In my head, I figured if she was
really breaking up with me, she wouldn't let me see
or unclothed. It wasn't a spicy related gesture by any stretch,
but it also showed that she wasn't covering up around me.
I took that as a good sign, because I wasn't
sure about breaking up with her as nutty as I
made her deserve it the sound. She has never had
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compunctions about apologizing when she's wrong. She said she wanted
to say she was very sorry for all the things
she had said to me starting on Sunday. She was
sorry for throwing her shoe at me. Oh yes, for
the silent treatment and for doubting my judgment. I told
her that I appreciated it. She told me that she
quit yesterday. I told her that I very much agreed
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with that. She explained that yesterday she went into the
office and the boss, an owner, was waiting for her
in her office. I you know, I just also want
to say, I feel like, oh, Pete did really jump
to conclusions about her screen er boss.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
It was probably more just like a like, yeah, now
I really do have to reanalyze, like what I actually
even want out of this job and what I.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Want out of the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I felt like that was a pretty unfair jump, and
it's clearly but it's again just another great indicator that
this yeah working and y'all to split.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
The law firm is an old converted historic house near downtown.
Most of the staff work and what used to be
the main house, but my fiance's office was literally the
outdoor shed grot. It's a very nice and comfortable conversion,
but it's still separated from the main house, so him
sitting in her office means he had to go out
into the backyard find a key. He doesn't usually have
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unlockerr space and wait for her. On the first day
back from a holiday, he told her he wanted to
make sure there were no misunderstandings from the night prior
and to ensure that all the doors weren't shut or
some such nonsense. She told him that she was deeply
upset by his proposal and didn't know what she was
going to do. I guess. He told her that her
value in the company could either go up or down
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depending on how she decided to proceed.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah, well, and then that walking out after that, that's
a good that's the right move. You can't now you're
you're a hostage. After that point, like she.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
Said that, she walked out on the spot and didn't
go back to work. She spent the rest of the
day with her sister trying to figure out what she
was going to do. That was yesterday, and I guess
she still doesn't know. She spent all day today looking
for other jobs and sitting in the employment office of
her MBA program talking with her advisor. I asked her
why she didn't just tell me any of this yesterday
and why she screamed at me. She said she was
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sorry again, but she was a little shell shocked that
she faced serious spicy related harassment in her first job
out of the gate, and honestly didn't even know what
she wanted to say to me. I told her that
the silent treatment really hurt and allowed my imagination to
run wild. I didn't tell her what I said here,
though she apologized again, saying the way she acted throughout
the entire event wasn't fair. I told her that I
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really do love her, but I hadn't slept in two nights.
I was exhausted, hurt, and didn't know what to do.
So I was going to stay at my uncle's house
for at least a few nights to sleep if nothing else.
You said that was fine, and that she'd wait as
long as I wanted her to. I told her that
I think we need counseling so we can learn how
to talk to each other better. She agreed, so after that,
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I packed up a bag and I'm now at my
uncle's house. She did give me a bare chisted hug
and a kiss him a cheek on my way out
the door, which was pretty nice. But right now I
need some sleep, But I do know I want to
stay with her. I never I need to never use
words like you can't go ever again, I do agree
with that. I feel like you could have again. I
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think it was phrasing too in part. Again she did
not react well. But I think also you can't be
like you can't do that. I think it's I worry
that this will happen if.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
You go there.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
I really do love her. We are fine for money
without her working. I am co owner of an auto
a pair of business with my uncle, and we have
a great few years. And we have had a great
few years. What I don't know and didn't ask yet,
at least, what is she going to do about her boss,
how this affects her future employment, That she will realize
we are fine without her working and that she can
take her time finding a good job with a good boss.
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But you know what, it's always good listening to full
episodes of stories just like this. Just go to Spotify,
Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio and search up ok storytime. But
there is a little bit left to this story. I
don't know if their relationship will work, but I do
think that counseling is a necessity regardless.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
It's just now working out, man, That's all that is. Yeah,
it's just not working out.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
I'm sure there are a million other things I'm forgetting
or questions I'm not answering. I think the mods are
sick on this thread. In comments common one, her nuclear
bomb is always saying we're breaking up whenever she doesn't
have the uphand in an argument. Not really here to
make judgments, but this is a really huge red flag
that your wife is manipulative, and actually it's fiance. She's
threatening you to throw away years of relationship over an
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argument and tries to guilt trip you into backing off.
This can't be healthy.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Agreed.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
I exitded something similar and broke up with me over
one single argument, which makes me realize how damaging and
toxic her behavior was. Edit. I read the update again
and holy crap, it gets worse. I'm a professional. You aren't.
You're a naffing idiot. Your wife is egotistical, weigh in
her head, and is definitely on a power trip. This
wife of yours doesn't care what you think and is
openly attacking and disrespecting not only you but also your uncle.
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And the business that you have to call you not
a professional is laughable. You will become a doormat and
let her walk all over you. If you don't do
something about it, you are definitely not the ale. You
may be blunt, but your argument is well founded. Comment too,
you're the ahle before everyone sucks here, absolutely, But now
you don't know that she's slept with them. He could
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have hurt her, or any number of things could have happened,
and just assuming she's slept with him makes you the
ahle in a big way. Also demanding she not go
back to her job. That's quite a butt move too.
Just quitting a job without notice kind of major consequences.
And if that guy is willing to sleep with his
subordinates in that manner, you better believe he's capable and
probably willing to ruin their lives if they try to
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say anything. I doubt this is the first time he's
done this. Instead of demanding she quit, maybe you should
have talked to her and asked her if she felt safe,
made a plan if you tried to retaliate. I know
she was mad at you, rightfully so, but think how
it felt to be her thinking she was getting rewarded
for a job well done and then getting harassed, because
that is exactly what that dinner was.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Well, I feel like that comment ignores her entire personality
in the way that she's been interacting with OP.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
I think I think that there is there's truth in
many elements of these comments. But I think that to
say one way or the other that OP is an
a hole or she's an a hole is to disregard
the entirety of the story.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
My hypothesis would be like, if he does go to
her and is like, I'm one, I'm looking out, I'm
caring for you, I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
That, she'd be like you gross, you're weak man, or
like and also stop trying to control me.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
I'm fine. Yeah, Yeah, that's probably how she'd been.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
O P says I never once demanded that she quit.
I said, I was incredulous that she was going back
to a job where the owner of the company pulled
a month long con on her that resulted in him
saying openly that he wanted effort. She is supposed to
be the hr professional that people can come talk to
when something like this happens. Now, by tacitly going along
with it and not even calling him out, her professional
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integrity is forever compromised. As long as she stays at
this law firm. She can't be trusted, she can't confront him,
she can't be the ethical voice of re and against
someone we know is a sleezebag. He forever has dirt
on her. Even with that, I didn't demand she quit
her job. And that is the end of that story.
I think that was just a complicated story all around.
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But at the end of the day, I just don't
know if you guys are right for each other.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Really not.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah, you should be with a girl who likes cars,
not a lawyer. Get get with a yeah, get with
a mechanic chick. Well that's the lesson here is, don't
be a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
John here og host. We're gonna get back to these stories.
But a quick three minute break from hops from our sponsors.
My friend became obsessed with me.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
I had to cut our connection, get her out her.
In twenty fourteen, I was a single and or ready
to mangle, and my friends suggested dating apps. I signed
up for one plenty of fish, and my goodness, the
weirdos are there. One guy asked if he could just
come and lick my toilet, while another collected sockfluff. Oh
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my god, h what on earth had I got myself
into ew Hugh.
Speaker 3 (52:01):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
By the way, this comes from user Loki of Asgard
eighty four and if you want to submit your own
stories to the r slash okay story time subreddit. I
met a guy, Dave, who seemed like the only normal
person on the app, and we started chatting a lot.
We became friends. We liked the same things and exchanged numbers.
We chatted every day. Nothing creepy, just good friends. I
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didn't get any weird vibes or red flags. Eventually we
decided to meet and went to the cinema local to me.
It was clear for both of us that we would
just be friends. There was no attraction on either part.
I worked from home as a hairdresser, and we would
chat in between clients. We would attend parties together when
my children were with their father. We only made plans
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when my children weren't home, and never during the week.
I met his friends and he met mine. I met
his mom and dad, etc. If we went out for lunch.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
We either agreed to pay half or I'd pay this
time and he would pay the next.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
You're dating this guy, this is a day You're day
you're describing dating this guy? Any day trips they were
taking day trips. He would cover his part and I'd
cover mine. So and that that sounds like dating. Yeah,
that sounds like dating. I just needed to make sure
I wasn't off points. Sounds like dating and a little dating.
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On alternate weekends, when my children were with their dad,
he would stay over no funny business and be gone
before they got home. Months into our friendship, things took
a turn. We had already decided that we would only
be friends and that we would both be supportive of
each other. When we found a partner, we agreed we
would always be friends. I had met someone and was
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eager to share the news with my friend. He was
far from happy about it. His demeanor completely changed. He
started not going to work, claiming to be sick, but
would turn up at mine after the morning's school run
and stay most of the day until school pickup. It
was awkward for my clients, and he would be in
the front room so I could work. I didn't mind
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at first, but it quickly became stressful and I started
to feel suffocated. He also started staying longer even when
my children were home from school. They liked him, so
I thought it wouldn't be a problem for them to
meet my friend. However, he began staying late into the
weekday evenings and I felt it was impacting my time
with my children, so I very nicely suggested a bit
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of space and keeping our hangouts to the weekends. He
was fine with that. I mean, everything that has been
listed could definitely be platonic. Yeah, but also if it's not,
like made extremely clear that it's all platonic, it could
be very easy to confuse this with being like, am
I developing well?
Speaker 4 (54:40):
But the thing is that they did. They were like friends.
We're friends, right, We're gonna be always friends.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, but it's like we're gonna be friends forever. It's like,
but you've only only known this person for a couple
of months. After chatting with my girlfriends about the situation,
they suggested he might have a crush on me.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
I laughed it off. There was no way.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
We didn't think of each other like that. My girlfriends,
A and K our family and made sure we would
spend at least one night a month having a catch
up at my place with movies and nibbles when the kids.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Were in bed.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
No men were allowed. But he started to be But
he started turning up on these girls' nights, which raised
eyebrows and red flags. They thought he was nice, but
a bit odd. One particular weekend, I had planned to
spend it with my friend Ka and had not made
plans with Dave. He was fully aware of my plans
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and had made his own elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
My children weren't.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Home, so we bought copious amounts of wine and sat
around my fire pit, letting all hair down. She was
staying over and it was a great night. Around midnight,
we were still having a little drinking poo and I
got a text from Dave asking if he could come over.
I suggested that he didn't, as I had my plans.
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Next morning, I came downstairs to see k equally hungover,
sitting on the sofa with a shocked look on her face.
Turns out she got up early for water and went
into the kitchen to find Dave sitting at my dining
table on his phone.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Oh, just a casual b and E. He's just gonna
casually be and e into your dining room. Okay.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
So there was a spare key to my house in
a key fob outside, and he did know the code
but had never used it before. I wasn't thrilled to
say the least. He brushed it off, bro, saying I
wasn't thrilled to say the least to a guy, just
like being in your house in the morning is like
way underreacting like you should have immediately been like.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Get out of my house. I told, what are you doing? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Uh? He brushed off, saying he knew he would be
hungover and was going to fix us breakfast. At this
point I asked for space. I started to distance myself
from him and not make myself readily available for catchups.
After some time in space, we decided to meet up
at his friend's engagement party. The gathering was fine and
there were a lot of people to mingle with until
soon to be groom approached me, thanking me for giving
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Dave another chance. He said, Dave had been really upset
the last few weeks when we split up. So yeah,
everyone thought they were dating, including Dave. And it's like, girl,
the way you described it, I thought you were dating
and you met him on a dating app.
Speaker 4 (57:17):
But also but they said friends. They were like we're
friends that.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
However, this goes back into the last story with like
the naivety you meet a guy on a dating app,
and then you're like, oh, someone said that we were
just friends.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
That was a different person, but like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
No, that was the same guy. She met this Dave
guy on the dating app. But then it's like when
they hung out, it was like, oh, we'll just be friends,
but it's like.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
On the dating app. Yeah, and I get it.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
It's clearly he was being duplicitus or there wasn't enough communication,
whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (57:52):
It's not like all on op or anything.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yeah, but it's like little naive not seeing how maybe
this guy could have totally had his signals crossed on you.
I question what he was on about, and he said
that he was made to believe by Dave that we
were a couple and had a lover's tiff and split up.
I explained that was never the case and that there
was no romantic involvement at all. Dave looked very sheepish,
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like he had been caught. I decided it was time
for me to make an exit. Dave knew I had
met someone and was getting to know him. Rumors like
this could lead to disaster. I didn't answer his calls
or text for the week after this incident. I had
explained at the party how I felt about him telling
lies to others about our friendship.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
He had a lot of.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
Explaining to do with the groom about why he lied
after being confronted. Then I got a random text from
Dave saying he was being rushed to the hospital for
emergency surgery and asked if I would come. I couldn't
as I was working and would be picking up the
kids soon from school. I wished him the best and
told him to let me know when he recovered. I
heard nothing until the end of the week, when he
asked if I could pop in. On the weekend, I
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had the kids home, but thought I should go to
make sure he was okay, then head out shopping with them.
We took a train for forty five minutes. As we
got off the train, he was right there. Confusion set
in as he had just had major surgery and was
supposedly in dire straits. Anyway, he wanted to drive us
to his place rather than take a taxi. I got
to his mom's, who is lovely, and had a cup
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of tea and a ketchup. A nurse arrived to do
a dressing change, so the kids and I stayed in
the kitchen while his mom was with him in the
front room. Time ticked on and the nurse left. No
one came out of the front room. I knocked to
see if it.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
Was safe to come in, and the shock of what
I saw has stayed with me to this day.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
He was being spoon fed food by his mother, who
was wiping his mouth like a helpless baby.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
What but like to do his r arms not working?
Speaker 4 (59:46):
Yeah, what's wrong with them?
Speaker 2 (59:47):
Because he drove them if he couldn't just if he
can't feed.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
Himself, that's one thing. But like, I don't know, let's
get back into it. It was cringe worthy, a thirty
something year old man being spoon and fed for simple
boil removal from his butt cheek. Oh so not only
he lied and said that it was emergency surgery.
Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
You might like, oh, like the pass away.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Oh, then you're gonna get the phone coils, You're gonna
get the text message where it's like, this is his mom,
Like he just wanted us. He just wanted you to
know that on as is his last breath, he said
he loved you and like wanted to know if you
loved him back. So it was not a major surgery
or a life or situation. It was just a butt
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cheek boil.
Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
They both acted like this was normal. I made my
excuses and left.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
You should have made any excuses. You should have been like,
this is absurd. You lied to me, you broke into
my house, You're creepy. Don't come near me or my
kids ever. Again.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Red flags were now in full view. Uh, and I
had to act. The constant lies and weird behavior outweighed
the good friendship. I thought I had Things were happening
with the new guy, and I didn't want Dave any
issue with that. So I told him that things were
getting serious with the new guy and I wanted to
explore it. I still wanted him in my life as
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a friend, but I was excited to start a relationship.
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Girl, No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Why dude, you want this guy in your life?
Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Yes? Get him out. Yeah, he's been weird. It's a
weird guy. He's over not listening to your boundaries.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
He threw the tantrum of tantrums like a child. Go
figure the guy getting spoon fed by his mom's thrown
temper tantrums. I was instantly blocked and removed from all
social media I received a texting have a good life,
and that was that or so I thought, no, wo
And you know what's never just that because we're constantly
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adding more and more episodes.
Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Is is listening to full episodes with stories like this.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Go to Spotify or iHeartRadio or Apple podcasts. Wherever you
listen to podcasts, search okay, story time, and you will.
Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Always have a new, unlimited supply of stories because we're
constantly adding more.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Every day, every.
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Single day, we're adding more. So I challenge you to
there is a little bit more story left. I think
we're on agreement.
Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah, force stop playcating this man.
Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
He's a little weirdo. You've told them multiple times, regardless
of like however you've been acting. You told the multiple
times that you only want to be friends. He's telling
people that you're dating, which again, it'd be different if
he was like telling people that, oh, she's leading me
on because we're all doing all these daity things. No,
he's telling people that you're literally dating even though you
have established other friends. And he's getting spoon fed by
his mom. He's breaking your house. Got it off.
Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I felt bad that I had lost a friend so easily,
but he was constantly lying. I later found out he
set up a Facebook page dedicated to mistreated men and
mentioned that I was his, ex claiming I gave him
PTSD and trauma. He later removed it after his friends
posted to that page that it was all fabricated. Now
I'm married to the new guy, wow, and life is great.
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All I know of Dave is that he's an online gamer,
has gained significant weight, and has two kids. I wish
him all the best and Sapie, but likest.
Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Stop pushing the best. You don't need to do that.
That's the end of that story.