Monta Ellis | Leaving the Warriors, hooping w Steph & Dirk, having a pure love for the game & more

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yo, what's good. It's your boy ta aka Mi's the
first team. Today we got the Mississippi Bullet no other
than Monte Ellis intense battles. You know, I had to
get my rest with that cat. But yo, head over
the prize picks, use promo cold mud and let's get
ready for the episode. Whoa, I gave it out the

(00:28):
mud nerd put me Land's gonna feel me first, see
me bag, gonna do you worse, gonna get you hurt.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
That's been fixing all my vass still might pull up
and eat it. Change.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I go up and down, feel like that hurt. Bet
I go out like a thud. Bet I'll put something
in a dirt dirt. I came up front the mud
and the it's a down non shirt shirt break the
ben make gonna work straight than my hand from out
up hurt, I gonna ron the mud. They finally found
that diamond in the dirt ice.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hey can I gotta make it kiss out the.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yo, yo, yo, welcome back out the mud. You did
my brother t a. And today we got a very
very special guest, my boy, my bro straight out of Jackson, Mississippi,
twelve year NBA Venner one of the best to ever
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Montealis, you did. Welcome. Welcome, Brother, appreciate, appreciate y'all. Man,
you know how y'all doing out there. Man, we appreciate you.
Blessing the platform now for sure. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
So Bro coming out of Jackson, Bro, you know I've
been always familiar with obviously you know my boy Al
Jefferson from the CEA, that my man Man Man, Honey
grand and so coming to the city of Mississippi. Bro,
I used to always hear a lot about Monte Hela's
Mantela mante helor that Jay Reed told me about you
a long time ago when I when we you know

(01:50):
what I'm saying, when I got drafted or whatever. And
then just to see it full circle having all these
Mississippi guys come out of them, I just want to
let you know, Bro, before we start this show off. Bro,
you wanted the guys. Bro, I had to give my
rest for you. Feel what I'm saying. I'm talking about
the same preparation I would have for like a Kobe.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
You feel what I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Saying, Sir, or any of the elite guards in the league.
I don't want to give your flower.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
I really appreciate you coming to bless our platform. Appreciate that.
G I said, man, you know, go hand in hand, man,
you know shit, like I told you, man, you know,
y'all help me because I was a little guard coming in.
But you know, with my balance and you know me
being able to you know, play the game that I

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play the game, So y'all help me make quick decisions,
you know what I mean, Like if I'm going here,
I could feel your body. Now I can make my
next move, which everybody know is to spind move. Now
when I incorporate that, now they gonna say, gonna do
the spind move. Now I'm gonna do over the top.
So now I'm gonna hit you with all different type
of things. And that playing against physical, bigger guards like

(02:54):
y'all when I first came out, Cause shit, I was
one hundred and fifty four pound when I first came
out of high school. So I had to you know,
grind and get it. But nah, I appreciate that, and
I appreciate you for even you know, making even work
challenge me to gayle sharp of my game because you know,
it's like you know, sharpen the knife every day, like

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when you're going against the grain, and you keep using
that thing and get dull over time if you ain't
got the people to challenge you. So for me being
a small guard coming in and playing your big guards
like that, it kept my knife sharp to where you know,
I can get through those spots iron shop.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
It tell us what it was like growing up in Mississippi.
Bro Jackson, Mississippi, Manu.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Man or rough.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
I was raised by my mom, single mom, and my grandparents.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I got two brothers. Man, it just came from a
hard working family.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
With my grandparents, I stayed with them until I was
like sixteen, so they instilled a live to you know,
work ethic, a lot of old wisdom.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
So my mindset is thinking old.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Like people say, I got an old soul, So I
think wisely and I you know, try to take my time.
Not saying I do it right all the time, but
most of the time I do. But man, you know,
it was rough.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Shit. They get shoes, a couple of pans.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Man, some days, you know lights went on, the gas
wasn't on.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Real struggle. Yeah, so like it wasn't for sure, it
wasn't roses.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
But I appreciate it, you know, being the person who
I am and what I have become in this world
and be able to make it to the NBA in
twelve years and do what I've done, Like I cherished
that because without that, I wouldn't be who I am today.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
You definitely out the bud.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
You definitely playing two rolls and then playing tolf seed
and it grew into a Rolls out the muff show.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, none but the flowers.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
To you on the best of every sear Appreciate who
influenced you, like coming up, you know and jack Town Jackson,
like who, like who is your influence?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
How you get to hooping?

Speaker 4 (05:20):
And like, you know, well, my brother, my oldest brother,
he put the ball in my hand when I was five,
five years older than me.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
So everybody in Mississippi, everybody in jack Toown know the gun.
But yeah, he put the ball in my hand.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
And everything that he was doing in practice, he would
come home and show me and like line drills. We
used to use the cracks that was in the street
to go from curve to curve. And that's how I
did lion drills when I was at that age, so
driveling the basketball and all that. So my brother he
was he was the reason why I actually did what

(06:01):
I did because my brother six eight six', nine that
can do it. All yeah, yeah end, up you, know
hanging with the wrong. Crowd so he blessed me in
a lot of. Ways, man even you know the circle
THAT i, keep the people THAT i hang, around you,
know very very cautious on you, know taking things from

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people like far as, drinks and you know if we
in a setting doing whatever we're, Doing LIKE i like
seeing what he went through and what he had to
go through for so, Long like it made, me you,
know make better. Decisions so everything that you see me,
do picture that at six eight six,' nine and he

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could play the one through. The five, I'M talking i
play both ends of. The FLOOR so i just chose
a different path and it was because. Of him so
HE know i always give him. My flowers, you know,
he know he the REASON why i am THE person i,
am today specially on the, basketball court because if it
wasn't for him to even give me any hope of

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BELIEF that i could even, DO this i wouldn't even
be here right now today.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
For sure shout Out to Antwine that's i'm.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Feel safe he definitely put that battery in your back
on top, ABOUT yeah i AIN'T gonna i could tell
from me competing with you over. The years so when
you say shout out, your brother, it's, like yo who
always was the guy that kind of motivated you.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
To like go hard when you was out there parks.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Or you was open gym and you had a motherfucker
just telling, you, like yeah you could.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Get there so you have battance.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
With him, like man my brother was it was hard
for me to beat my brother when he won on
ones man, no, battles yeah because he was way bigger.
Than me but he also helped ME because i was
always the. Smallest guy that's WHY when i everybody's, like
man you always going there and challenge them big. Old,
GUYS man i was, always Small so i'm not finna
go in there, like man that's a big old jokes.

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In there balance small with a lot of working on.
Your balance once, for ME when i got to the
league and understood balance and to be able to get
stronger but not getting boky to lose my speed TO what,
I had like that was the turning point that what
changed the game. For me LIKE once i got to,
that point it got to put the, SPEED on i

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mean the, weight ON and i was able to keep.
My speed AND now i just got to work on
my my, my, balance stability mobility and stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Like that and when AND when I did i did.
THAT daily i.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
DID that i didn't go didn't go home for three
SUMMERS where i just stayed and trained and just stayed, and, trained,
train train got as MUCH as.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I could we heard you went to the new. High.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
School yeap tell me how how you end up in
high school and how they even come discover you coming
up and where you.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Come, From me i've been around that my.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Whole life my my my family. Went there So the
ella's name and lived near is a. Household name and
it was way. Before me my mom, played basketball my auntie's,
played volleyball so there was a AIN'T before i even.
Got there so my brother was, before ME so i
was the ball ball when he was in. High school
THAT'S when i was around in middle school around that

(09:08):
area where elementary going into.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Middle SCHOOL so i was always. Around THERE so, I lived.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
I could walk to my, high school so like it
was like it wasn't no other places we talked, about
going you KNOW what?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean, so yeah that's how. That happened what school
bro w into high school and still.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
In.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
There, yeah yeah so he wanted you to follow. Them footsteps,
OH yeah i ain't had. No CHOICE like, I said
man was the we was. The powerhouse uh my high,
school coach, You Know warren. State championship, you know also
getting him in his flower if it wasn't, for him,
you know pushing me and doing the THINGS that i
was that he. Was doing LIKE when i, was like man,

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crazy man like y'all WANTED how i could come in
there and run? All, Day man man's run us for.
Three hours i'm talking about every part of running you
talk about from suicide to seven means to run in
the bleacher for, Twenty minutes i'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
All that so like with him.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Like, it WAS and i, always LIKE like, i said
we were the power how they went out the, state
championships so IT was i was always gonna. Go there
but he took he took my game to a whole.
Nother level by the discipline part. Of it LIKE when
i Got, TO lee i appreciate IT because i ain't
never had a coach as crazy as.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
He was but, you know with you from, The, art yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
He ain't had no choice because we was our single
single mom raised and then when, the hood like we
in the hood with, gang bangers drug.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Dealers, and killers and so he had to be.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Like that that was the only, you know male figure
that we had outside of like, my grandfather my uncle
bug and, you know a couple of my uncles. In
law but other, than, that though he was he had
to be. Like That and i'm talking about but man
may listen and to me and that we, got older
like we.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Appreciated THAT so i appreciate her. For that so that
was the school you always wanted to.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Go To you that's so it wasn't no other schools in,
the city and none of that old kid Tried all.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I'm, HERE yeah i got THIS when i was.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
A kid i always dream of Playing this and it's
just like going into like a bud. The rim see
we used. To BEFORE when i, GOT there i never
played in the. Old gym SO when i, got there
it was the new gym they. Just built but see the. Old,
gym jump here's the GYM that i fell. In love
that's the one with the. Court man, YOU think i

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promise you think you was in the bud.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's how.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
It was and the lights were dim, like that the
floor was like shining brown like with, our logo and it.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Was crazy yeah we was, in there but you felt like.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
You was.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
But then we had great competition though throughout. The city
though that wouldn't even make it even, Better though like
we had great competition throughout, the city like. You was
you was always playing for for, full name like like
every night that we. PLAYED throughout i got to, high
school like my senior year and when it got to
coming down because all the upper CLASSES that i was

(12:21):
always played against the.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
UPPER kids i never really played with the kids in,
my class but they was all gone and.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
All that but man throughout my freshman year of my
junior year and.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Great basketball great basketball that she was because she Was
Named all parade your sophomore, junior.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Year yeah one that my. Senior year yeah made. The teams, yeah,
YEAH man i put, IN man i put in. Some.
Work man who who was some of the who are.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Some of the cats in the like in the you
know the rankings that you was pretty much looking for
hund down or you always was top dog in, that situation.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
NOT just I never i never looked at nobody else
always worried. About, me okay SO when i went in,
THE gym i just put it in the work, like
so and then it's just time to TELL because i
DIDN'T play.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Aau basketball didn't know that was my that was my reason.
For questioning, I'M like i just knew you was, you
know we had.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
A lot of guys been through That all, americans status
and just to know that you didn't even Play, You no.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
So what happened with coach?

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Would do he'll, get, like uh, couple ball like eight
of us or nine of us around in. The area
we'll go on one team and we'll play like if
they had the Big tournament vegas and they had the
big tournament out In in orlando, out there and those
the two tournaments we'll. Go to BUT playing aau just traveling,
LIKE that i never. Played basketball that's out. THE mud

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i love to, tell, kids man.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Like that's out. The MUD like.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Au basketball all it's nothing. But basketball it's nothing in.
Today's game it ain't nothing but kids disrespecting the game
of basketball because every time, you score you got to
celebrate like it's only it's only.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
A bucket like what are we? Talking about my kids.
About seven. That's it it's.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
One bucket like at the end of, the game then
what we're talking about it it's just one bucket and
and and that's how, that's why that's WHY the nba
is taking a turn the way it is when they
Talk about european Players and american players because the circuit

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basketball have become. A circus like most of the parents
want to live through their kids never played the game of,
baut basketball but want to tell your kid how to
play the game. Of basketball and then when they get
somebody who try to be real with him, and coaching

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oh he hating on.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Your kid like.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
The fundamentals IN the iq is gone because we're not
doing repetition of skills and fundamentals. Every day they like,
daily vitamins and when you're not getting those, daily vitamins
then your body is it's. Functioning differently that's how basketball

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is the. Same thing like you can't go teach a
kid trying to do a spin move.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
If they ain't never dribble.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
To basketball you can't teach them a year ro if
they don't even know how to do a, Spin move like.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's steps in its level.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
To it that's why the ones that, get it that
stands out the. Other ones they just like crab in,
a barrel just trying to, get out trying to find.
A way and it goes back down to fundamentals of
the game AND the aau circuit Is killing.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
American basketball mm and.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's crazy you ain't play none of that seventy two
points in, one game talking about two, state championships Talking About,
All Parade, First Team all american and get To The
all american. McDonald's game explain that to the to, the,
LISTENERS man i was your Experience In, all american.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
It was. It was it was a time, to, remember man.
Crazy thing.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
GIVE me i had so much hype going into THAT
because i had we had just Played against louis william
and him just played in front of like twenty, Nine
scouts so like the buzz was there in Practice coach
rin Six.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Man, williams, Yeah Yeah louill yeah he came out of high, school. Too.
Huh yeah we.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Played each other my my senior year and it was
a big old thing At, the collegeum that's when we
had like twenty, nine scouts thirty scouts at.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
That, GAME yeah i ALWAYS bro i gotta keep, You,
guys man guys who came in high school give me.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
A respect that's a, Brave. Move bro it is cats one.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Coming out of, High, school bro and coming UP when I,
was hooper you had to have a great support system
around you gat to.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
That decision you make, That.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
DECISION bro i mean so many Guys that i'm talking
about even tried it and and. And failed you See what,
i'm saying were talking about it camera like guys like
guys who actually took that opportunity and it won the.
Best decision and just to see the fact that you
took that, so, serious bro and worked on. Your game
you even talking about the game, Still. Today bro it. Impresses.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Me, Bro, yeah MAN because i had a chip on
my shoulder WHEN when I after i, Got, drafted YEAH
because i was told one thing and then another. Thing
happened like THAT'S when i first. Learned.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Politics business i'm gonna clean up the business, Of, basketball
yeah the business.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Of basketball BECAUSE when i.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Came out you KNOW what, I mean i didn't know
anything about, You, Know sonny like Everybody kneho Sonny WAS
like i didn't Know who. Sonny was so when They
bring sonny, to, me, like hey, You, know sonny can
you know get the?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Right place?

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Woo Whoop and, i'm like who? Is, He like i'm Coming, From.
Jackson MISSISSIPPI before i got to, THIS point i never.
Seen PEOPLE before i got to, THIS point i never.
Seen people so when they bring him, TO me i,
was like so WHY should i give him a piece
of SOMETHING that i worked so hard FOR that i

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never seen any there in.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
My life SO when i didn't make, that move that's when.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Everything CHANGED so i ended up going second round and
my draft, PART everybody i had like.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Three hundred, people there you KNOW what.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I mean by THE time i, got drafted it was
probably twelve and all them with my. Family members, my
grandma she, started crying, my mama she. Was upset and
the ONLY thing i, TOLD him i got my foot in.
The door THAT'S all i needed with my foot in.
The DOOR because i knew my work AT that i
knew my MINDSET like I wasn't i wasn't drinking and

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smoking and DOING like i wasn't. Doing THAT like i
wasn't doing that my first three years in. The LEAGUE
like i didn't do none of THAT until i was
twenty one two. Years, old YEAH when i was in. The,
LEAGUE man i TOLD you i stayed in. The gym
like THAT'S why i say. You do you got to
be mentally, locked in and then you got to have
a good, support system and you gotta and you're gonna

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have To have you're gonna have to put on your
big board draws and have, some nuts because is it.
Gonna have there's gonna be some things that you're gonna
have to put. In place, but, like no that ain't.
Gonna work now you ain't going. With Me now i'm
gonna do this, like this like you're gonna have to.
Do that but when, you do you just gotta know
that you having to right people around you and the
to the. Young, Boys, man man y'all making a lot,

(20:18):
Of money please get y'all some good people. Around y'all
they're gonna tell y'all win. Y'all wrong the yes dudes,
around y'all y'all need to get them away from. Around
you by the time you really figure out what's, going
on it's gonna be. Too, late, so man get your
support system with people that gonna.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Tell you when you're doing wrong and listen, to them
because at the end of, the day everybody can get
better and grow what you? What you so you went
to the you Went To, Das camp Weaston.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
High SCHOOL now i WENT to i Went to nike
my the first two years and then we end up
GOING to UH which i think they had started getting
sponsored BY.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
THE ABC.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
D cap i think they started sponsoring them After the.
Adidas LEFT so i went there. One year, but.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah because she was ranked because you was you And,
LITTLE williams i was the.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Top two he was. One two and that's how we
ended up playing each other in high school at the one. Two,
Things Yeah joe green was in that draft To.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
J miles we had a bunch of, j yeah, uh
yeah we had, a.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Man we had a Bunch of what was your?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Draft process like you talked about a lot of stuff
going wrong in the Processing that like how Did that
did you work out with a lot of guys throughout
the draft or was it.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
JUST like i worked out with like seven Teams Never
golden state never was one. Of THEM like, i, said
MAN what i was TOLD.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Where i was projected, To go.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Like THAT'S why i always went Into With, Chris Paul,
Darren williams. RAYMOND felt i was always parado with them
and every workout that we, went to so.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like, it was.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
It was up, and down like you DIDN'T like i
told YOU when i didn't want the food with With,
with sonny. Everything changed the whole dynamic of the whole.
Situation changed SO.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Now i just had to go.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Through it and at that point my my mission was
it's just to do enough to. Be seen so that's
that's that's what, it was like my, main THING like
i at, that, TIME man i was so mentally locked
in and so determined to make, my life my family.

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Life better that was my, Main goal like it was tone.
Of vision everything else was just on. Our side m,
that's huge and.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
That's big you got to say you got, the support,
a system you got anything there to keep you.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Locked in. That's real, it's, huge man. It's.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Huge MAN like i tell these, young, kids man a
dream with no work ain't nothing but.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
A thought got work.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
For this one day you're. GONNA be I thought i was,
gonna be this was gonna be. THAT shit I thought
i all gonna be here at. THIS time i thought
it was gonna be. Like this that's all. It is
if you don't put in, the work you can't you
you won't be able to buck the.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
System to try to get to the league if.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
You're NOT like i tell people this all, the time
and order for you to, be different you have to.
Be different in order for somebody to call, you different
you have to be doing something. Totally different they, be,
like hey doing something different than, everybody else and it's
gonna show one thing about it.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Hard work you can't. Hide it sacrifice got the work.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Hard man sacrifice is the bigger thing that means IF
today i might don't play the video, GAME today i
might go out there and shoot one hundred jump Shots
or and it's for the, younger kids because once you
get on up to college it should be more.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Than that but it's just for the younger, kid now
who really think.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
They doing something like that's sacrificing the, video game sacrifice in, your,
phone sacrifice even hanging out with. Certain FRIENDS because i
was in, high, school man, like basketball everybody KNEW what,
i WAS where i WAS when i was in. High
school everybody KNEW what. I was just man with my
tell man probably, sues basketball probably over there on the

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crate over there on the.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
All, around yeah probably bike on the bike rim over
there on.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
The, back yeah they knew it out and SHIP and
i shot basketball in the, garbage, can man like Dedicated
and i'm Talking about i'm putting myself in in game
Situations like and that's another thing kids. Gotta do tap
into your imagination, Mm hmm like you have to. See
it you have to see. The game you got to

(24:53):
understand play the game and see. The game you gotta
tap into.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Your imagination if you don't tap into, your imagination you're
gonna struggle or. A while.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
That's real you got to tap. Into, it yeah being
and being that free, manned man your your. Rookie year,
You know i'm pretty sure. You was you, was had like,
you said had a lot. To prove how was those
matchups with with some of those elite point guard that you, Just,
named well you're looking for those guys and tell us
your out the mud welcome TO the?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Nba, moment man it was like my welcome TO. The.
Nba uh trying to SEE because i know it's been
a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
OF time, I mean i made you go to the
crib just wondering what The hell i'm gonna. Do next
but other, than that like you Know what, i'm, SAYING
man i, ain't no because.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Is non for, Real THO like i tell people, like
this like my game IN, the nba it's the SAME
way i played in.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
High school, SO like i ain't never really. HAD no
i TOLD you i had a chip on, my shoulder
so like whatever came, WITH that. I knew i knew
that y'all was big. AND stronger i. Knew THAT but
i KNEW what i had to do in order for
me to compete in. This LEAGUE and i. Did THAT like, i,
LIKE so i AIN'T never i guess having. A moment my,

(26:19):
MOMENT was i could. Say this my moment was IS
when i first Went to vegas for summer LEAGUE and
i had to. Go in, we had, you know you
give it. The team then they do they let. Work
out you gotta go in the one room and THEY
and i went. In there couldn't lift twenty five pound. Dumb, Ball,
Man man i'm, telling, You, man johnny, hey man Big,
JOHN no i. Ain't lying i'm talking. About that they

(26:41):
were his. Exact word he, was, like man we drapped this.
Fucking kid he can't even. Drap me can't pick up twenty.
Five pounds so it was this. Whole thing but he
THE one. I was he he was with me for
out of my. Twelve years johnny was with me for.
Like ten.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
And the balance and all. That stuff he taught me
so much. Of that so in the summer time they
took me Out of. SUMMER league i ain't. PLAY summer
i Played One summer league game and from that day
they started preparing me for to get ready to Start playing.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Snydavis Coach coach davis not talking about the, strength Coaches Specially.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Johnny Murray. Big john he was our he was our.
Strength coach he was. Our security he.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Was, everything yeah, Big Jump big john had the security
sout out the. Big Jump. Yay nah he showed he
showed me all that with the balance and.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
All that showed me a little moves to be able
to get the bigger guards. Off me, YOU know i
ain't gonna give you, my secrets but you know THAT'S
how i was able to.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Create contacts and things.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Like, that man he showed me like we was in
the gym a lot my first. Three, YEARS man i
seen my, chi practice my my suits and my and
my Spring coach JOHNNY and i used to call them.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
My eighteen That's.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Doctor stein lenny and Then Uh gigi gina forgot her,
last name BUT they i used toee them six days
out of.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
A week i was your, Ship, THOUGH man i.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
HAD to i had to take care of my BODY
because i KNEW that i was gonna play forty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Or more, tell, me bro what that ship.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Was like, you know you Come, from jackson Come From
south what was the culture shock like going To? The bay,
you know you know they, yay yary the big class
and they turned Up If max drake coming from. The
country you don't know nothing about this because it was
a culture shock for Me from indiana Going.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
To portland SO when i, got out you Know what.
I'm SAYING so, I know i know, you're like what? The?
Fuck hey not to be honest, with. You, ma'am, HEY
Bro i i'm right.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
At home like that's why the beyar like my, second
heart loved the mayor shout out to that they love.
Me too we got like that's my. Second home if.
It wants if it wan't so high, DOWN there i
might be living up. RIGHT now i wouldn't. Be HERE but, i,
mean man it was it wasn't nothing but A. Bigger
jackson if you. Asked me THAT'S why i said blue.

(29:21):
Collar people.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
They wasn't. THEY wasn't i mean they.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
WAS cool i ain't never had no problem with, you
know nobody in the bear or nothing.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Like. That man they showed.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Me.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
LOVE man i went in there as a as. A.
Kid man it came out of a young man and
a young man that had to learn a.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Whole.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Lot man even though even though how it, went down,
you know like, it was, it was it was. GREAT
man I love THAT'S why i got a chatting on.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
My back and like, you said you. Was there you you.
Grew up you grew up in. The bay you know
you said you came out a man and you're a real,
One too so YOU know i know about, YOU know
i spend time.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Of sacking that's some.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Faul me you a REAL so i know they. Cuffed you, come, on,
yeah man that's a.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Little broke, you know he mad no problem Man everywhere
and it's just all about just being just. Being man
that's that's it really telling.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
About, it well who is some of your your? O
gs like who's like you know when we came. Into
LEAGUE when i came to, THE league i had Guys Like,
paul pierce you Know what, I'm Saying, ricky.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Davis that was. My vet who is? Your vets when you? Came,
In man, Team.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Man Yeah bed Stack.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Jack man the guys really Pretty So.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Jason richardson, shout outside my boy. Bone man you guys
well he had the guy real. Welcome. Man, yeah yeah, Those,
guys man those guyslearned, a, LOT man i learned. A,
Lot YEAH and i could say he was a good.

(31:04):
Hand man. Were man we. Was. Good now we ain't had. No.
Problem man we that that we believe. Team man we.
Came together we like we built.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
The bond that was so crazy in a short you
know amount. Of time when, You Know don nelson counted.
Us out he said we weren't. Gonna win he, was like.
Forget it so, YOU know bd had us all. Meet
up we all met up, and, say man we got
this amount of. Games left we can. Do this if we,
do this this and the third and from that day

(31:39):
they got the last twenty one games. Or something we
end up winning like seventeen or somebody that jon't ended
up getting the.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Eight seed, but man they That, we yeah that was
a that was a.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
WILD year i was looking that's that's kind of like
the situation we was and when We got antonio, that
year we was. A, seed yeah and we got. Popped
once see we knocked, them off so we kind of
like matched up with, them better so, we like we
damn don't want to get.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
With. Them now that's how y'all was LIKE doing i
remember it doing.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
That, popping yeah they had the, best record but see
the crazy thing yet we had beat them already that.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Regular season it gives you a feel. Straight up but
we Also Had don nelson that knew everything that they
was doing.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
That series like it was. No other though he coached
that series like it was. No other he told us
everything that was exactly what's, gonna happen and, it happened
and we just stuck. With it BUT like, i said,
the chemistry the bond that we had built over the
time going into, that run it.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Was crazy, BUT yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I, Mean, THAT yeah i mean look back Man don nelson.
Pretty much but we heard it from Our our he
just wanted he just wanted to. Get back, he SAID
mant i just get out of.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Get back.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
That's, IT hey i ain't a main coach that series
To the tito like and then after that he was.
On vacation don't then we had to, play utah yeah
done and gone what?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Done? That yeah don't all in maw with, now maybe
but nah shout After. Dun, nelson man he did a lot.
For me he gave me.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
An opportunity he came in, and said some boys that
was making twelve fifteen million dollars, and shoot at, THAT
time i wasn't making number three. Hundred thousand and he,
Was like i'd rather lose with this kid than louve
with y'all getting paid millions. Of dollars and so THAT'S
how i ended up. Start PLAYING so i give shout
out to, You Know. Done nelson. Appreciate him shout To.
Coach nelson.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
He was a real.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
One too he put me in my place one TIME
and i was going in THERE and i try to
tell my son the same thing about always your body
language and, your power your.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Hands and all, of that all that flailing sh.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Doing it so day he was in the game, and
whatever and he took me out, or whatever and he knew,
our man he gonna come, in there gonna. Tell myself
he come, over there all the way over there. To
me he, gonna, SAY yeah i know you got. An
attitude what you want me? TO do i put a
fucking arrow over here, and, say hey look, At me i'm.
Fucking powdered and from that day all, was, like okay,

(34:19):
All right so, He talked he challenged me in ways
that that helped, me out AND and i was like
for him to be able to do that when the
COACH that i, came from it wasn't, as bad so
it was.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Easy for me to, Be, LIKE okay i just need
to DO what i need. To do you know what's?

Speaker 3 (34:38):
So crazy he always tell my son about that. Body
langers for you to speak on that body language shows.
A lot you could be quiet and tell everything about
your body lange with. My son, HE loving i tell
him to get mad his face. And hands, so yeah,
that's real though not. For real you gotta tell.

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Speaker 1 (36:01):
Your game so being a part of that we believe
team and you know the energy and that. Racle arena
can you can you explain to the fans how it
is now because we played in the era we You,
know stephan You know Dre, and be you know coming,
that spot. Been jumping so can you tell us?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
About? That, OH man i ain't gonna hold you. Man,
me man they the best fans in in. The league
AND what i say that Is the oakland, fans now
the new the new fans.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
THAT sitting i, love y'all but y'all just don't bring
that same type of energy and vibe like it used
to be on.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
The riga, but, man man the people used to like we,
was terrible like. We. Were man them folk were selling out,
every night like it. Was crazy they sold out, every.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Night man and, that's why like we was really trying
to win, for them like we was really trying to
win for them because many they some. Lawyer fans i'm
talking about, lawyer FANS like I can i don't EVEN
think i can see one time when we was playing
bad and they. Booed, us, boy yeah we used to get. Towed,

(37:10):
Up man we used to get. Towed up but they
were still being that then that we believed when We
played man, at home they just sit down the. Whole,
game man it was shaken. In there you were thinking
it was an. Earthquake outside they was. It was it
was just that loud, in there and.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
That oracle used to be really really it's got the real.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Soul.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Feeling man you could just tell it been there. For
ages you could just. Feel it you Could you it's.
Just different it was. All authentic you could say it's
All any, it wasn't, you know with all the bells
and the whistles and.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
All that it was. Just authentic the fans made, that
arena not the arena you Give what. I'm, saying sure
they just they. Deserved it. I'm glad I'm glad stephane
was able to, get one though. They cannot they kind
of like hate me. RIGHT now i don't KNOW if
i could GET a g pass. From you That's why

(38:07):
i'm really bringing. That.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
UP uh i, TELL you i went out there one day,
my take, AND uh i was so focused trying To
lock clay down, one day RIGHT and i walked in
between the kids while they. Were performing by THE time
i look, BACK up, I realized, i'm, like yo the
time out.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Ain't no, you KNOW the tv timeout long than the,
mother man you Know what. I'm saying long, AS hell
i walked out both thinking this about.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
That ship didn't. DO that i walked through a. Whole
perform many kids out there. Doing anything he walked through
the whole perform Even know, Oh wow i'm.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Asking you for A g pan may give me back
straight with. Them people.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
You.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Know y'all you know y'all gonna get, my man good
good sort, of, guy man real, real one real out them.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Up man in, all, seriousness, though man you eventually became
most improved player of the year that you got, acculated
there eventually signing a, six year sixty seventy something million.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Dollar deal look at.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
The deal let's, just say, UH so i always wanted
to know what was your love and support for, you know,
that team and just pretty much what that did for
your family as as a whole from.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Your, mission man they changed my family life still to,
this day you KNOW what. I MEAN and i don't
win and play the other teams got out, the contract
but that contract right there still take care of my
families to. This day and them giving me the opportunity
when they never seen me, work out they only see
me play on. The floor i'm an eighteen year old

(39:43):
high school kid coming out at one. Fifty four they
taking the biggest risk of. Their Life now i'm expendable
because it ain't a, bigger contract like they can write
that off on. Their taxes but like they took a chance,
on me AND so I Love, golden state you KNOW what,

(40:03):
I mean like they gave me. My opportunity the way
it went down is what what really hurt me or,
affected me and and it's similar to what Happened. TO luca,
i mean that's what that part of the business that
you really don't know nothing about it unless you really
be a part, of it or if you just have

(40:25):
somebody that was close to you that has been Done
TO but, I mean i had my good days THERE
and i had my. Bad DAYS but i had more
good DAYS and i had. Bad Days and i'm always
gonna give them, they flowers they respect and and everything
they have done for me and. My family so So

(40:49):
Now golden state are always gonna be in.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
My heart that first one took a chance, on, YOU
man i feel Like About, paul out the rest of.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
One gave me A Bankro, Chris Mullin Pete. Rod Higgins,
h man it's. The boy then they went to back
and then you came Big money mitch all. Good guys yeah.
They yep and then they wouldn't even like they had

(41:22):
so much confidence in me to where they wouldn't even
send me TO The.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
G league like where it WAS The d league.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Back, then yeah, right then but you know send. Me
that they, were like we rather for you to be
right here and soak up. All this so when they told,
me that they gave me that opportunity to do that
when they could have sent me, DOWN there i. Cherished

(41:49):
that so THAT'S why i worked the WAY that, i
worked JUST so i can show them appreciation for taking
a chance and, you know giving me.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
The opportunity and so that's what helped you for because
your second you had you go For not ballington. Turning
on so that's what, helped you huh like turn up.
Like that, you know surroundings they give you. The Confidence
And don nelson came in with.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
A System killer mommy cut, you off, but killer you
had probably one of the fastest, adjustments too and grasping.
The league bro and guys that coming out of, HIGH
school i ain't gonna lie like. Normal guys take two
three years like you instantly Caught on bro once they whoever,
IT was i know you was about to Get Into
don nelson in. The SYSTEM but i do want to,

(42:33):
applaud That, like bro just watching you like you caught
on quick guys, like, MYSELF shit i was still, you
know learning how to, you know defend penn downs at.
The time whereas in, Your Situation, brorainona loe you from
being out of.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
High school that was impressive coming right in being part of.
A system i. Appreciate it but see that's one that
they go.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Back to my high school coach, to man we had
three and a half practice every day to where THAT'S
where i go BACK when i, say fundamentals it's. Daily
vitamins we worked on those, every day like every day.
In practice in those three hour we's going over the
same thing, every day repetitions the same thing, every DAY

(43:12):
which i try to get my kids.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Into there now it's boring, to THEM like i try.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
TO ship i want my son to see this.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
For real but that's that's where it goes. Back to
it goes back to the fundamentals of the. Other game
so my coach was all fundamentals. And repetition, that too
you Know what. I'm saying like we practiced even in. High,
school man we Practiced. On sundays It was Monday, through
sunday like every day, we practice and we practiced for
three and a. Half hour then don't let them be
mad for some on, guard reason we might go for

(43:49):
five or six.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Hours like so we did. That daily so that's what
fundamentals is. So important and.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Right build right, Up, there yes because when you getting
them what they was playing? Small, BALL yeah i gotta
remember talking about that. Small ball yeah that it was a.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Good thing the hundred. Motherfuckers too there was the eighth seed. Move, man,
yeah man we had him, To man i'm talking about
we was averaging like one hundred and like twenty someth
points like in that run from them games are we
want to know at the end? Going? Today, seed man

(44:31):
we was going one hundred and. Twenty east that SHIP
was i. REMEMBER that i Really Was jamar crubbers on the, team, Too, right, no, no,
no no yet he came after all they broke.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Him up, oh yeah now that's too much about The
next then THAT'S why i Left the knicks to we
got TRADED from i went To.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
The clippers he came.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Out, there, yeah meanwhile tell us about the you know
it's out.

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His, ship man you know that us about the scooter
incident because following the, big deal you know you.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Got, THAT cheese i. Got, THAT yeah i.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Got.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Bankroll man, but, Nah man i've been riding mo pears
and stuff all, my life like just that's what. We did,
my grandparents my great grandparents had five acres ride, four
wheelers you know that. All DAY like i was shoe
driving on the highway shoe for about an hour before

(45:34):
that accident't. Even HAPPEN like i was just wasn't popping
wheelies or doing no crazy stuff. LIKE that i was
just going to slow down to turn into the park
because we was about to go in in the park
or whatever. WAS slippery i ain't had no. Pothole nothing
it just lost. The trolling it just fell on. My foot,
SO yeah i did that and got a.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Panic mode and because because they right away at, the
moment yeah they could.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Take it how? Did that how did that.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Like instantly LIKE because i know you was probably like
blow or, tweak it like what's?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Going on what's, gonna happen, My bag but that's something
that could have. BEEN prevented.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I told i don't. THINK so i think that's just
every day living now. Rotate right BUT like, i.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Said it wasn't the street, wasn't wet like it ain't had.
NO pothole i wasn't.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
GOING fast i was going like five miles. PER hour
i was turning to go into. The park it's like
it was.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Meant for it.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
To happen you get that, Little, slick YEAH like, i
had man slick are.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Like it's certain THINGS that i won't talk about, on
there but at, that time it was some THINGS that,
i would you KNOW what, i mean DOING that i shouldn't,
be doing and it probably would you know the reason
why that. Did happen but it was a life. It
was it was definitely life changing. LIFE change, i mean

(47:06):
it definitely made me me STRONGER because i Had to
it took me like eighteen months for to get that
mother back one hundred WHERE like i was in the
cast for like. Ten months so man to where it
don't give me. NO problem i got broke screws and
tight ropes and plates and all.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Of, It man IT'S like, I said it just made.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Me stronger it made it made my mission even more
DOABLE because i was more and more focused and locked
IN because i wanted to prove. Everybody wrong people thought
that that was the end of, my CAREER and i
still went on.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
To play what ten years? After? That, Yeah, great yeah
that part.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Of yes AND then i walked away from The game
like the game didn't. SURPASSED me i, just got, you
know tired of the business part of. The.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Basketball, Yeah, POLITICS yeah i understand that.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
For sure you got a chance to Play. With, steph
yeah how was? That experience did you see that he
would become the guy who he?

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Is? Today not?

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Did IT but i knew he worked, Hard though like
he definitely would pay attention and the things THAT that i,
was doing he paid a whole lot of attention, to
it and he put that in. His, game now when he,
came around it was just it. Was messy he just
came in a, messy situation. Message environment you had teammates

(48:31):
who was talking stuff to the owners about what the
players were doing at, this time this and this.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
And that so he. Came in it. Was messy BUT
did i know he was gonna?

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Be?

Speaker 4 (48:41):
That nah but he did work, hard though so now
seeing it not surprised.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Because of the. Work perfect.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Like even with him though he came, in small once
you figured out how to be able to get strong and,
take physicality that's when his.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Career changed when he first came into, the, league like
they wasn't.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Like that so when he got stronger and and can
can can take, that physicality and that's when this game.
Took off because that's what as us the small guards
coming into a physical lead or a, bigger, league.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Like that's going to be the.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Main thing it's getting stronger because you won't be able
to if you don't go, get, stronged like you won't
be able to sustain that throughout the eighty two. Game
season and if y'all we played it like you have
to be on it for you to have an eighty
two game season to where like and you gonna have
a bang like you're gonna be banged up and, all

(49:45):
that but for you able to be able to play
a full season, like nah you gotta that's the main
thing that.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Strength career, and, yeah MAN, the nba y'all need to
get back to.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Doing that get the freeway back in, the man get
their guys of machines out of there with the.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Bad, Press, man.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah, MACHINES man i stayed doing it.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Like, THIS man i used, TO ask i used to ask, my,
training like, but yees. They good. It's good it's good, For,
stuff bro. IT'S not i. Never know just like theucker
with the bands be doing like all this for.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
The balance, the balance it's good. For, it yeah but
it's not good to. Talk about for me to talk
about bench, press now it's not good. For that and
that's why they're having all these made dog.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Every.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Time man that's why y'all gotta get bad free, ways,
man freeways.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
H, freeways man, for, real man you got to stayed on.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Them freeways speaking of, the, waists man, TWENTY eleven i
think you averaged like twenty four points was first and
minutes third?

Speaker 2 (50:55):
And steals? Did it? Did? It upset you didn't make
all team? That? Year? Oh man.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Upset, me shoot EVERY chance i had the opportunity to,
make it to, make it it.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Upset me but that's one reason.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Why when it got to that twelve, year man it,
was like you, know what out of fight with a good,
old fight you KNOW what?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
I MEAN like i. Appreciate everything the lead are done
for me and my family and still do for me
and my family with my benefits and all that that.
We GET but i was.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
For, a while, you know UPSET that i FELT like
i could at least got one. Of them and the
thing about the reason why the THE The Nba All
star game is the way it is, not man because
they gotta you gotta get you gotta get some new
fresh faces.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Of.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Opportunity man and it's no knock to to the ones
that make it fifteen. Sixteen times but it's other players
that go back home and they go work on their
game and come back and have a good season and
don't get that opportun that's, Not fair like, you can't
like even in the TIME when i was coming through
That The tony parkers And the Genobody's Making all star
but they numbers are still the same. Every year and

(52:14):
because They Got Tim duncan Hall of fame and they
win it like they automatic gets off an, all start
all start one from its all about. The stats it
ain't have nothing to do with all. Other, stuff now
if we ain't gonna, call it we ain't gonna go. Buy,
stats now we should call it a, popularity contest and
that's gonna come back, Down, to yeah, the media they

(52:35):
get to pick who, they want and there it's gonna
be the ones who will get that sit down and
get in the interview and get all the things. They
WANT and i. DON'T don't i never thought that that.
Was fair but, you KNOW like, i.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Said it is what.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
It is ONE thing i always told MYSELF when i
tell my son this all, the time how long as my,
peers know that's all. That matters and one.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
All star one of the best to ever Do it
me and? Range game what do you think about the? Today's?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Game, Bro, uh man it's it's all over. The place
no more. Mid range your mid range. Is deadly you
know he had that. Mother fucker but the crazy, thing,
is man it's like it's like you playing one on.
One defense like it's like you get the ball and

(53:29):
everybody else just stay out and they just had the
lane wide open and you gotta go with, That man
like it wasn't Never, like bro we had x out
like you had to, you know push that like You
have you know what it? Is?

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Though right what because the big on the pick and
roll isn't dropped the whole time they switch or.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
They, switched yes it that's the. Main thing they. Gonna
switch you See what.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
I'm saying like and, and boy there's no way you
could on you man talking about switching the big yourself, for.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Dude, On me, come, on man it's head, we HEAD.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Like i tell my like even, my bigs like nose on,
the ball like when you defending, the screen nose on,
the ball like you have to be there. The guard
you gotta chase over at the time of my going
under and all, that wind you gotta chase.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
The, bottom man you better be.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Over, now man the, GAP defense i don't, play GAP
and i don't. Know more it used to be one
time you gotta have both one foot in, the past
one foot out.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
The paint now it ain't that. No more it's, just
huh it's on, you man you. Gotta stop they be
over there with their hand on their on their knees
and younger watching. The dude, so man it's just it
definitely lost. The test and it ain't like they always say.
We behaving BUT like, i SAY the au circuit have

(55:01):
messed up basketball because it's all about, the oohs. The
ODDS like i tell my kids this.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
PAST weekend, i say y'all played basketball for what, it
brings like the money and, the cars the girls and.
All that that's why y'all play the game like y'all
gonna lose every time with that mentality because you're not
working towards.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Something meaningful i'll let you go.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
Get that doing any other jobs right in order for
you to get to that next level or anything that.
YOU do i don't care if it's, a, lawyer doctor
you could be. A janitor if you don't love what
you're doing or enjoying what, you're doing you're not gonna
get better. At it because one THING about i don't
care who. You are you can't do nothing while. You're
frustrated you can't think straight while. You're frustrated no. ONE

(55:52):
can i don't care who. It is no one can.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Like.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
No one so you gotta you got to. BE mental
i tell him this basketball is ninety. Percent mental it
is ten percent come for all the skills and the
bello and.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
All, that definitely because the days that you go in
there you don't want to, do it you gotta be
mentally stroll to get. Through it the days when the
when the ball not going in at the time and
you the, mission fifteen you'd, Be, like MAN should i
take the? Sixteenth, one no you gotta. Have, it yeah
you gotta. Have it i'll tell. You, THAT.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
Yeah i missed, one hundred was gonna go UP like
i got to just.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Hit, it yeah that's the, mentality now and that's how
and that's what it, Is.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Though like, so, yeah, man man it's definitely a Lot
OF like, i said it's the fundamentals, FOR me i think,
you know in, the game the fundamentals is. Very high like,
you said it's a lot of it's a lot of
things they, are missing.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
You KNOW what.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
I mean it ain't the grit on there like, you
said you taking, the bump you know, your heart you're coming.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Into paint you're looking for, the contact, you KNOW like. I,
told like even like if you're on a circuit team
or eybl team or whatever, it is.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
It's very rare that you got a club that have
a facility to where they could practice four or five days.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
A week it's. Very rare now.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
We get all the good kids in, the area put
them on one team. We want we either gonna have
one practice or we're gonna have a get together and to.
Get together we're gonna meet up at, the gym get some, shots,
around talking then, we finish.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Go play. That's it so where do you learn the
skills and? The development like where?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Is?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
It like what are you?

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Getting it you're not so now once we leave, From
there now you gotta go to. School Ball school ball is.
More organized now you're struggling with that because when you're in.
The summertime people don't understand summertimes when you. Get better
it's not it's not when the c, start, that oh
when it's time for us to go back.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
To, School, bot no it starts in. The summer that's
when you.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Get better THAT'S why i say with the whole a
you and the kids traveling and doing, all that it's
so many kids that's missing all of these things because
they're doing all the traveling.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Like it it's just it's just. Watered.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Down man, that's, Interesting bro not. For real you keep
in tune with. The youth i'm, telling you my son
will be watching. This episode there's a lot. Of jewels
you traveling for.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
The youth not, for, Real man i've been doing this
for eight YEARS and i tell people this all. THE
time i do it for.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
The kids And when i'm doing this as, A kid i'm.
The mentor i'm a father to some. Of them i'm
a spiritual. Guidance form like it's a lot, of, things
therapy a lot of a lot of HATS that i
wear with this, right HERE and i take. It proudly
and it's all because of. The KIDS because i didn't.
HAVE that i ain't have no one to come back

(58:58):
and show me to this and, do that like take.
THE time i specially at my level being in. The
league we didn't.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Have That so i'm.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Coming back like, You said i'm giving you. The test
i'm giving you. THE test i did have did it all,
the RIGHT and i have did.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
The wrong i'm giving you. The test it's on you to.
Take IT like i.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
LOVE this i, love basketball EVEN when i correct kids
with all the flashes like that's DISRESPECTUL what i mean
by disrespectful to, the games disrespectful to the game because,
it's unnecessary like you acting like you've never done. It
before once a kid that scored a basketball and they.
Celebrated it you never done. It before that's why you're.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
So EXCITED like i don't. Get it it's just.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
A BUCKET like i tell, people, like man why you ain't?
Done that because a layup count for two points the
same where as it don't do you KNOW what? I,
MEAN me i broke it down to a science when
it come to, this basketball when it's talking about with
these kids and, all that break it all the way
down to a sign because it steps. To it we
ain't cutting. No corners and let's let's mention because you

(01:00:05):
you really.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Is involved you know, your, family man you got your
son sixteen plays and also let the people know you
got a gym, around here like you are really involved
with these kids.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
And oh yeah you know this. Basketball, THING yeah i
got ill as a leader Academy And.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Compel texas so it's probably like fifteen minutes from here
where we're at, right NOW and i go from all
the way from three all the way up to see
my pro or like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
And shoot were in.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
The gym we're in the gym seven days a week
if we ain't got nothing Due on Saturday, and sunday
so we.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
IN there i. Appreciate.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
THAT proudly i got my academy with my classes start
at five thirty to Eight thirty Monday, through thursday, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
YEAH well i Know about i'm definitely. AROUND here i
have my son right with YOU because i know the.
Right way bring them on. This, summer man the hotel
right in front of in, the facility right. In frame
get some that, work in come on. THE basketball i love.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
DOING this i love giving back to. The KIDS that's i.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
It's my it's my calling to give back as MUCH as,
i could back to. This GAME and i told people
THIS when i Was, in indiana THAT the nba was
gonna Be all european players and light skinn ball with.
No tattoos in the next ten to. Fifteen years only
been only been out of the league going on the. Ninth, year,

(01:01:30):
man look we just had the lowest interest and and
And then nils got something to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Do, too yo.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
What's good it's tample some picks with. The grandpap you
guys already know what. To do head over the, press
picks download the app and use promo. Cod up you
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(01:02:01):
get to. My picks We got Game two warriors and The.
TIMBER woods I know steph, is Out so I'm Taking
jimmy butler more. In points he guts to get. It
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Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
More, Points now let's head over To The eastern.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Conference where we Got The cleveland cavaliers And The. Indiana
pacers this is an easy one. For me, You Know
donovan mitchell been doing all, That score he's gonna have
to continue scoring more.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
In points he's gonna have to keep carrying that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Scoring low heading over to the Other series Celtics, And
knicks i'm going more in Points. With tatum let's get.
It now those are my picks that you hear it
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Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Feel how you feel? About that though? ABOUT that i
AM bro i mean it's good and. It's bad and
that's with anything like it's it's like even with. Social
media social media be good until people start using for
it to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Be bad so it's the same thing. With that but
what is creating though no work, at. It, damn now
what is creating is is what we call back when
we were coming up back in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
It's.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
A musters and the REASON why i say That is
i'm gonna break that down. To you reason why you
just make a bust thetys.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
And the REASON why i.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
Say yeah and the REASON why i say that is
because now they're just following.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
The MONEY like i tell people all, the time if money,
MOVES you i gotta get away from, straight, UP like
i gotta get away. From it and that's all. It
is that's. Transferred port look at staying what seven thousand
kids in a transfer for load? Of them the, business like, come,

(01:04:15):
on man the. Business like so THAT'S what i mean
by there's no, loyalty like it's, no, commitment like it's no,
Work ethic LIKE if i can get, four million let's
just say they know they going to the, second, round
right they getting four million in n il second round
in the lead with making what? Two million LIKE ship
i ain't. Familiar with but just it's about two million

(01:04:38):
now BECAUSE when i came here with, three hundred they would.
Kill me take the. Fight away, yeah yeah but that's
that's that's what it. Is now so who?

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Going you are You thinking i'm a leader four million
here to go over here and take The two AND
then i got more DEMANDS than i got. OVER here
i gotta. Do it just go to class and don't
mess up. Over, here shoot you got. A lot there's
a lot on. This time see THAT'S why i don't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Like it bro this world, over here this world is
totally different from. THIS world i don't. Like IT but,
i say matter, Of fact i'm gonna sound. Like it
i'm just saying it should be in. Center. Based YEAH
if i give you, This bread i'm expecting you at.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Least average over fave rebounds at Least average you're gonna
have to average at least over ten twelve. Thirteen points,
come On and i'm gonna need You to i'm gonna
need you to, be durable and i'm gonna need you
to make these these individual workouts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
On time, Oh yeah i'm gonna treat this like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
The real lead you always get a pink slip in,
your seat et any, Workouts, on like you gotta gotta
keep these.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Kids home THAT'S why i, say, that, bro no for
real though. You're not you're not right, about that because
it should make, them commit like it should be a.
Better Commitment but i'm telling the, young boy they lucky
they Ain't Have david stern.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Straight.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Up, mother, yes yeah some of them boys would be
straightened up. Real, quick yeah he gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Make it he makes. An example i'm gonna make an
example out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Of.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
You, yeah yeah you're the. First one. Did, it yep
you're gonna be the first One that. I'm finished you
ain't gonna do it? No, more yeah now now, for
real because she. Deal it, boy man they be wild.
And man but THE n i l is good and
it's good things to a. Bad thing but it's good
money for some of. These kids and THAT'S why i

(01:06:33):
say it's a good ain't gonna get a. Good thing
but it also like pretty much you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Can set, your dreams your, your goals and everything is stop.
Right there it don't go. Beyond IT like i ain't
trying to get TO the nba.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
NO more i was trying to get TO the NBA
because i can make money NOW that i can make money,
IN college i don't really. Need this so that's basically what.
It is the numbers to, the numbers tell.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Me numbers Tell me for some of the guys that's on, the,
borderline right go back to, college because like, you said
the ones that know they gonna, be that they gonna
be that any man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
For, real, meanwhile me you played For the bucks And
the mavericks And, the, pacers right two of your teammates
ain't gonna lie at one point was my favorite players
of the league at, one Point the Winisky And. Paul
george can you, give us, you know some similarities that

(01:07:33):
those you know guys had when you play, With.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Well dirt i'm gonna say. He, Different YEAH like, i said.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
HE different I wish i would Have had dirt early
on in, My career, like yeah because the things that
he was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Like. Was INCREDIBLE like i was like like, his room
his routine that he. HAD daily i, was, LIKE man
i SEE why i see why he. Liked, that yeah
it was foster training, or.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Development even how he took care of, His body like,
you know he wasn't never one of those players that
really said nothing unless he really wanted to say something
like if you made. A man if he, was frustrated
then he would. Say something other, than that he would
just go out there and just. Shure it but the
work that he put off the court. Was crazy the

(01:08:31):
way he handled hisself off the court and on the
court was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Mind blowing but it also had, me, thinking like that's what,
a like that's what a. Legend is like you've seen
it and he heard he earned every bit of IT.
AND pg I. Got pg for a couple. OF years

(01:08:56):
pg played extremely hard on, both ends. Work.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Hard understand he took his his growing like it's it's
growing pains like a g because that that leg is
was a different a. Different animal and for him to
be able to get, THROUGH that i mean it. Was
amazing but you've seen his work at, the though like

(01:09:21):
he had a great work.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
At IT h i think at that TIME when i,
got there his Time in indiana was ready. To, go
yeah they wanted that's what they wanted. To play that's
what they wanted, to play the, Small bass so they
wanted him to play. The four so he wasn't. With
that so like he he worked hard man everything that

(01:09:47):
he got like he. Deserve it he. Deserved it SHOT the.
PG guy a lot of kids IN the au mimic
the game. After him you Know what. I'm saying you
had got to play.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
With, him yeah he can handle, the ball he can shoot.
The ball all lady worked and every year you could
tell that he worked on. This game he got better,
and better even when they was like he couldn't pass
the ball as good as, like that but he worked.
On that so one thing, about, it man if you
see anybody that improving, that game you could tell. They
working you can't do nothing but. Respect THAT like i

(01:10:23):
tell you can't. Hire work so he definitely was a.
Hard worker.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
And we used to fish a, Lot too so you
know that's how you knowing? Right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
There man you KNOW what i wanted to ask you
to bro what? Was IT because i know my FIRST
time i, GOT traded i. WAS shitty i just. Seen,
it germunt what was your first did you know it?
Was coming tell me your reaction and how you felt
when you first got traded for Go?

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
To, STATE man i, was pissed and not only not
only that BECAUSE like, i said it was a Lot
of it was a lot of behind the. Door stuff
that was going on with, YOU know i ain't gonna
even get this team, made up no type of, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Recognition. Or whatnot but he was going back doing throwing
rocks and hide in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
His hand and when he was, DOING that i, was
like it's time for it's time for me to go
because you know he was, he was he.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
Was different and so through that, whole process through, The
summer i'm, ASKING them i want to get OUT because
i can't play with this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
This dude and.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
That's when They Hired mark jackson And, He Bongo mike
malone and, all that and they came down and met
Me and menshi for. Three hours we sat down and
they talked me out of, you know asking for the trade.
Or whatever they told me they'll take care. Of him
they ain't gotta worry about it because they know We
had stephan all. Them coming so they, were like we'll

(01:11:59):
wear it. With him you ain't got to worry. About that,
and SO like, I said i love. THE beer i
ain't want to, go nowhere you KNOW what. I mean
but it's CERTAIN things i could, deal with CERTAIN things
i can't. Deal with and throwing rocks and high, your
hand that's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
One THING that i can to. Deal with and so when,
we talking we was on a. Little run we had
like two games out OF the. A seed we. Were
jailing we was WORKING and i Was in sacramento and trade.
That Line so i'm in up in the Hotel because i'm, in,
LIKE damn i don't know. What happened so we get on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
The phone they, were like we ain't. Trading you it
was like we got like two games out of. A
SEED think i don't know how many games, we had
like twenty something. Or whatever and they, were like we're
just gonna ride. It Out so i'm, Like cool like
we're jaeling. Right NOW so i ain't, Even TRIPPING like
i ain't, going. Nowhere, Man yeah i'm, LIKE cool i
ain't want to go, nowhere anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Going nowhere but she from THE time i got from
off that phone call and hung up, for them she
had going down to the bus and ride To the
they didn't traded, me already that ain't, hold on, hold,
on bro they ain't told me nor. My.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
AGENT man i get in the and what's The Name.
Daminic maguire, He, said bro they just. TRADED you, i, said,
no brother they ain't, TRADE me, i said we was
getting TO the i was getting into the the TO
the i was left from the hotel to go into.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
The game we. Got passed are you on. The, Bus
yeah i'm going on to the bus to.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
THE way i just left about the hotel getting ONTO
the i just on the phone over them leave it
out of the hotel. Room closing they go to, the
Game right so by THE time i closed, that door
got on, the bus they headed to. The game they have,
traded me they, told me, so, McGuire, like brother, THEY trade, i, Said,
BROTHER now i ain't, trade Me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Said brad just CAME. On espn, he said look, Turned
around bro came at the bottom of. The Screen Then
mark jackson want to come in there telling. MY skin
i talked, to, you, said man you ain't got nothing
to say. To, ME man i can see it right here. A.
Minute damn THAT'S how i got Traded At. Golden state
that was that was that's that's that's that that messed.

(01:14:08):
Me UP though i gave.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
THAT city i gave that city, everything throughout even the,
bull crap even with my leg and. All that for
me to be able to put my body through the
THINGS that i Put my bay through to get myself,
back right and for that the owner to come in
and do it, like that that was that. Was weak
it was sooud about that for a while, this week
and IT wenttil i Got, the DALLAS until i really

(01:14:32):
got back to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Playing, BASKETBALL no, i mean that's. Definitely understandable THAT'S how
i first. Got traded you don't want to for you
there for a period of time to get.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
That love you don't, want, to, Man nah so they
did it, Like that but it is what. It is what.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
It is just make, you realize like, you said it's, a,
business business you KNOW what.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
I mean so that's how.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
IT was i mean my FIRST time i, got traded
everybody got this. Story though he, teld, me what don't
make A but i ain't gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Lie though you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Him and steph in that, back court if you would
have Stayed in stephan come to, its owner.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
That's, SCARED yeah i mean it. Was scared that would have, Been,
AMAZING yeah i mean it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Could have like we never Knew that steph was gonna
be This because steph had, ankle problem real, real bad
like they so we.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Never knew forget. About, this yeah like we would be
in the, game.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Man he'll pull up in the game because it ain't gonna,
came out so we didn't know what. It was AND like, i,
said man it had got so messing between the front
office and, all that and then the player that was
DOING the, bs man it WAS just i guess it
was just.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Destiny, Dude yeah skoy's playing don't Work, That, WELLAH man,
i AIN'T like, I said.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
I played twelve years in, the, league man straight out of.
High school jackson meanship.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
THAT time i. Can't get but you are really, never,
retired bro you never officially you look.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
LIKE bro i just left, the, game man like the
love won't there? No more LIKE once i fell out
of love with it, like that it wasn't it wasn't there.
No more so my love go back to. The kids so, everything,
like yeah move around with. THE kids i play around with.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
The kids but, like that that joy that loved it. Was,
gone man it. WAS gone i. LEFT it i ain't
talking about turning over time, and paper none. Of, that
man y'all can. Have, it Man thank god. Bless you
look at that look killer he used to be with and. One, too,

(01:16:39):
YEAH yeah i ain't get the marketing like this man and.
ALL that i ain't. Gonna lie it wasn't. For me, for,
me YEAH because. I AIN'T but, i, DON'T man I
just i just like to go do.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
MY job i could get on up out, of there
you KNOW what. I mean all the other accolades and
everything come, with it come. WITH it i was just
always that kid that was always in my own lane and.
MY ship i never played basketball to be this person
right here. Do this it was an OPPORTUNITY that i
SEE that i seen that could make my, family BETTER
and i.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Took it that's all. It was so when all that
other stuff came, With it, I'M jacksman si know nothing about. All,
THIS like i just want to. Play, basketball man. THAT'S
it i just want. To, play yeah it want. Nothing
else you bring it to me in and do this
and we can make it. Work out just. Do it other,
THAN that i can't do that. ONE though i mean.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
It is it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Could have it could have been bigger than what. It
was it JUST like i just never looked at it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
LIKE that i just looked at it me just playing
the GAME that i LOVE and i could change my.
Family LIFE so i took it as far as the game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Was gonna take me and we we don't talk about
that because we spoke About Getting raphel austin on the podcast,
and uh and it came up in your bio that
you eventually signed, with them but transition to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Signing Them? With? Jordan correct how did that Even? Transpri man?
My man reggie shout Out to reggie, and uh sending prayers, your.
Way Brother.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
But reggie talking to him close to, my agent and
we built a relationship and he ended up seeing me
all of THE combination i PUT when i was With,
the warriors and then he, WAS like i, like that
and then he ended up talking.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
TO him i ended up getting The deal. Jordan, did
yeah Wanted, to jordan which. You came you want to?

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Enjoy, THAT man.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
I, tell you y'all, y'all want y'all want all these other,
LIKE man I think i Wanted with jordans.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Man to. The day. That's all i'm Worried. That jay
i'm talking about Every day i'm getting ON some js.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
FOR real i ain't gonna lie when we were talking
about Them from james one thing, for show you, Was,
CERTAIN man i ain't. Gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
LIE bro i dropped out of SCHOOL because i couldn't, Win,
No james That's what i'm trying to. Tell you the
offect that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
We're talking we always talk about what order, you got
you know you Probably got kobe got, but see but
See what i'm finna. Remix it, That is i'm gonna
ask you give me your Top five. Mississippi players Top five. Mississippi, players, yeah,
man yes, and man that's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
The. Real floor This whole i'm saying we're gonna miss
out on. Some people man. In it we need to
hear mante, alright, man, Yeah Okay SO i'm I say
i'm gonna See Me, chris jackson shut out, my move Shout.

(01:20:08):
Out Chris, h mo will you shout? My? Boy mo,
hold on wait, a minute let's run.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
It back let's run it back my move ye, will,
yeah yeah you put yourself on. That right that's three?
All right then a little.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Laugh back, come on, come on You Got al jefferson.
THROWING big i gotta put. BIG out i gotta throw big.
Out there and then my. Last, one man it's it
can go to a lot. Of, people man ah, mm,

(01:20:53):
hmm man. That's. Hell yeah look from, the, ship yeah

(01:21:14):
he from he from He From. Lismall. Town louisiana right,
Over there barber looks, and yeah he Is. From, louisiana
yeah now He's From louisian yeah. Right there, on that He's.
From mississippi now, on, that boy, you, know boy that
DON'T cant, i mean, YOU know, i mean we want

(01:21:34):
to count he. Can count ain't. Nothing against but you
know he won't be in my. Top, five man, my
MAN if i got to give me, another BIG if
i got to give me, another big we ain't going
no position about throwing in. The post this is just.

(01:21:57):
Your fine, you're fine give ME all i give my.
Last one y'all probably ain't gonna know him the. World
AFTER no I get i'll get the. Last. SPOT damn
i can't. Do, That, NO no i can't wat.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
Shout out no, boys, Jobs man I'm gonna i'm gonna.
Go peach i'm gonna Go With jay reed the last
shout rest.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Of people i'm gonna go With j Reed On. Western,
PEACE yeah i can't go Wrong with i'm gonna go
With j reed. On, That yeah i'm. Gonna go i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
Gonna go kids, out there got a lot of talent,
To manna.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
I'm gonna Go With. Jay Reed j reed was. A
beast i got a lot of boy you can. Like
that God Damn. Darris rice you got a lot OF
guys i. Know that it's a Lot. Of, lindsey, yeah
man it's a lot. Of Thing jonathan. Bender too yeah about,

(01:23:17):
For real Hollywood Got. Ryan, lockt yeah we had a Bunch.
OF man i don't want to. Miss nobody We. Had,
mississippi man we used to have the runs back in

(01:23:38):
the DAY when i was. Coming, up man that that
what made. You better.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
You know don't pick up runs and then you go
to practice and put it all together once you get.
The fundamentals, but, yeah man before we get out, of,
HIM man i just want you, to explain, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
To everybody you Know what, i'm saying what the, academy
like what like, break down how they can come?

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Sign up? Break down you Know what.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
I'm saying what's the what's the, you know the focus
before you even, get there what's the mindset when you,
get there and what you accomplished leaving this academy that
you run and ye.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
All right so you can go to ELS elite ba.
Dot com you can Go To Ellas league Basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
On instagram uh and basically what we, do Is like
i've been saying from, day one skills. And development so
we break it all the way down from the bottom
and be your way all the way to. The top we,
build character, mental, toughness discipline because you're gonna come in
Like like i'm all all about. Their respect you're gonna

(01:24:43):
you're gonna, Get that you're gonna. Earn that, and, BASICALLY
man i just tell parents when you bring, your kid
this is. A process so don't think it's just gonna.
Happen overnight like you gotta continue to. Bring me and
when you got a situation where you taking your kid

(01:25:03):
to an organization or somebody who trained and you see them,
getting better then you in the. Right, spot well if
you taking your kids somewhere and you don't see them,
getting better in, no progress it's time for you to.
Move on but the main focus, is though you have
to trust the process because it's a. Long process i'm
telling people all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
The, time MEMBERS where i was twenty ONE when i
got my, first contract THAT'S when i.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
Got blessed so for those from the age of FIVE
until i was, twenty one that's. Sixteen years it took
me sixteen years to get my blessings AND what i worked.
Hard for so it's a, loan process, loan process and,
it's blood sweat. And tears and the main thing about
all that when All the, bend said you're gonna have, to,
Sacrifice sacrifice you're gonna have to. Sacrifice, something yeah you can't.

(01:25:53):
Go too you can't go to the next level if
you don't, sacrifice something because you gotta put in.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
The work you gotta put.

Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
It in so that's my main thing is skills, and
development build, a, character, respect uh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Hold yourself accountable like.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
WE like i do all, those things and it's and
IT'S basically i put it in that form because those
are of, life skills basic life skills outside, of sports
because you're gonna need that whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
To do so that's my main thing that makes sense
and No other i've.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Been saying you could probably implement this. Your, ACADEMY bro
i GOT the i got the answers to. The text
he ain't told me. Tell, them man IF anyway i
could ever be assistance or even bring my son.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Down, Here bro i'm definitely looking forward to. Doing. That Man, So,
MAN man I got i got ten Camps that i'm doing.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
This summer they all up on, the website they're On the,
instagram page, so yeah you go all of us, on
there and, uh, yeah man bring, them down.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Man down so it ain't just.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Do girls so we do girls all. The, ages man we.
Do it we do. A lot i'm about to start
the volleyball part, of it so.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
The recovery part and very, you know strict on the
RECOVERY because i think that's the main part. Of longevity
we have a. Long career.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Covery, is, important, yes SIR and i think that's that
cover that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
COVERED everything i even got a little little man in
Basketball The fisher, price, GO yeah i. Got those so
we we, We, always man we're touching it all the.
Way down And then i'm gonna try to get to.
This summer it's gonna be my first trial of trying
to do pro, workouts here getting pre draft workouts before

(01:27:57):
the guys get ready.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
For draft so we're gonna see how they gonna. This summer,
but man we touching. Our.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Areas, man man you need to show them a lot
of film, because man you was one of the best
ever do at ANGLES at midi and that heart, so man,
you know out. THE muff i show, the, kids man
you got to attack.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
The. Mangles man once you figure out the mangles, angles
TOUGH so i tell them you got to go to see. The. Mangles,
NO man i appreciate y'all guys for having. Me, on
man it's.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
Definitely PLEASURE like, I, said man y'all help me be
the PERSON who. I am, you know playing the game
THE way i play, the game AND because i had
to get stronger and with your mentality and how y'all played,
the game it made me have to step my game
up because we battle Boy the Memphis And Yoda state

(01:28:46):
boy like We battled man and then me coming back
home well Close to jackson and then you know my
wife Being from memphis and have a.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Family there like the game was always hyping. And cool,
SO man i. Appreciate, Y'all, man man appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
You comfortull A, CIRCLE bron i ain't gonna, live real.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
MY guy i watched her AD like i Watch a.
Kobie bro i'm trying. To you you had to get.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Your restaurant he knew what he's what we had. We
gotta we had a video guy here a coach now
big Time j marsh YOU.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Know J, Marsh, MAN Hey. J martin i used to, Be,
like YO who? I got we got That mante. Ella's
kid you know he's been tearing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
As man.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
MAN knew i was going up against like so it's the.
Same thing, you know they give us our sky report want,
be here so you knew who.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Was GOING so i had to do the. SAME thing
i had to prepare myself like one thing. About it he.
ONE thing i had. MY pants i was ready for.
THE war i had my arms on, from hey all
ready for.

Speaker 4 (01:30:01):
THE man i was tripping that, People, like man you
ain't say nothing, On, COURT man i have to, say,
no no.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Say, nothing man the basketball gonna Speak for. That's, IT
man i ain't got nothing to. Do that he paying
it up all that this like a trying to run me,
off screen wearing down man. LIKE him i, Kept, coming
man no bullshit man. Could man but, Yeh, man no
it was a. Good. DAY man i so. Appreciate, It,

(01:30:30):
well man we appreciate. You.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Too man, Once, again man so since you wanted the
cast that actually identify out the mud from, our standards
Me and Max bow bro we got some funny Brother appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
After month, oh, yeah appreciate, Appreciate, man man the baby
man straight up The. Mud man ya, you, did, Yeah.
Baby yeah we appreciate one At jack town find it

(01:31:08):
you know? Day, Long man. THANK you i really. Appreciate.
It man but there you, Have, It Man Monte, ellis
man one of the best to ever. Do it out of.
High school man came and blessed out The mud man And. Z.
Bo man how you? Feeling? Today man you liked. THIS
episode i. Appreciate.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
It man grace us with. Your presence you ain't been
doing on. Our podcast you wanted the guys.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
A man we.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Appreciate. You man it's one of the best ones you ever.
Do it, appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
You, Brother man. Appreciate, Y'all man. Thank you you sure
have some people mad on. This one

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
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