November 15, 2025 • 61 mins
The guys sit down with Ricky Davis for a powerful “Out the Mud” episode, diving deep into his journey from a challenging upbringing to life in the NBA. He reflects on his college years, getting drafted, and his transition to Cleveland during the early LeBron era. Ricky shares what it was like fighting for his spot in Boston, the experience of being traded to Minnesota, and how the league has evolved since his playing days. He closes with an inspiring look at the Ricky Davis Foundation and his commitment to giving back, offering listeners a raw and motivating look at his story.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Whoa, I get it out the mud dirt put me.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's gonna feel me first, she'd be bag gonna do
you worse. Babo is gonna get you hurt.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's been fixing all my vass still might pull up
in either church.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I go up and down.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Feel like that hurts better.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I go out like a thud.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Bet I'll put something in the dirt durst.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I came up from the mud and.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Then it's a down no shirt shirt break the ben
make go work straight than my hand from out up her,
I gonna run the mud. They finally found that diamond
in the dirt ice.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hey kid, I gotta make it just this out the
mud man.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
What's good y'allshure boy t a man right now here
with my boy z bo yo yo out the mud.
We here it did. But today were getting blessed on
the platform with Tricky Ricky what they call him. You understand,
one of the best scores that I have seen on
the one two pull up side in the league with
my eye.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What's up? Man, Appreciate y'all having me on this thing.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Man. You know, first off, I like to congratulate y'all
for getting y'all. You know Jerseys, hunging and risers. Man,
it's that's love and just saluting you know, give y'all
y'all flowers and what it means to achieve something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So I just want to congratulate y'all off the rip
for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Real talk killer growing up in Chicago, moving an hour.
Talk to us about that transition, because a lot of
people say, well, they look on your on your bio,
you from out you got.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Man, So just tell us about your.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, man. You know, I was born in Las Vegas, Nevada.
First off, uh, and you know, my father was in
the military. So we moved from Vegas to Chicago, and
you know that's when the lights went on. Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You know, in Vegas we lived good. We was in
the house of our own.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But moving to Chicago, we moved with Granny and you know,
she already had four or five families in the in
the house and it was rough, you know, and got
the realized what it was to be in the city.
And you know, you know, thank god, you know, five
six years later, Pops got us out of the city
and moved to Iowa. You know, that was probably the
(02:10):
best thing that ever happened in my career mentally and physically.
Uh you know, because growing up in the shy Is
it's a monster. And coming up from from Vegas, you know,
where they property like l a type thing and you know,
with the with the with the accent and sounded like
the white boy type thing.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So when I got to Chicago, it was like a
culture shop.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You know. I had already knew he was from and
visited there, you know for weekends, but just realizing what
kind of monster it really was, you know. So so yeah,
I'm from the shot you know me. I'm still on
eight eighty eighty fifth and Morgan, They're still there. So yes, sir,
right there, Pops in them from the Wild Hunts and
(02:53):
Mom and them from El Gail Guard from from the greensantastic.
So that's all we know. What was that culture shock?
What was it like moving to Iowa? Man?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It was it was good.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It was It was something kind of like what Vegas was,
you know, kind of like with peace. Uh you know,
you ain't got you know, the white people on one
end chasing you with the racism and the gang bangers
on one end chasing you on one corner. So it
was just kind of like I was able to grow
mature and start playing sports and something I love. So
(03:29):
it helped me because I know, you know, we really
moved from Chicago because my older brother was, you know,
tied into the streets. So Pops wanted something different. So
to be able to move us all to Iowa and
get the opportunity that we want to live, right and
I look up your shoulder every second, you know, that
was a blessing. So thank god we did more than Iowa.
(03:50):
And then just getting there, it was it felt like
it was a cake walk, you know, coming from the show.
It just felt like everybody wasn't on my level and
just you know, just started being that dog. And that's
where it started.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Chicago roots getting in your bone.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Man. But I get a little wit so when you
moved out there young and so I'm pretty sure when
you was in aau, was you playing basketball any other sports? Man?
I wasn't even playing basketball. Then you just started playing basketball.
I moved to Iowa. My pops played. He played all
(04:27):
the time, but he didn't force me into it. I
played baseball, so I was I was hitting home runs,
all American baseball player. And then about sixth seventh grade,
I started playing basketball when we moved to Iowa, and
I just got better and better every summer. Start playing aau,
Pop started coaching, and then it just got better and better.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You know, just got good.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I start, you know, training and working out with Pops
every day, and then just just got good. I start
going to abc D camps and Nike camps, and you know,
just start Once summer I took baseball off because I
was playing baseball in the summer and I wasn't able
to play basketball. I wasn't able to go to ABCD
camp my freshman sophomore year that I was playing baseball
(05:10):
in the summer. So I said, you know, let me
try this basketball thing full time, because baseball started getting
little boring, you know, sitting down the sun bacon all day,
eating some flower seeds. You know, he was good at it,
but it just wasn't like basketball. Once you start playing
and and getting that rhythm and started learning how to play,
they start getting fun or you know, So that summer
(05:31):
in my junior year, my sophomore junior year, I was
able to go.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
To the abc D camp and Nike camp. Man, it
just get it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Just some of the players that was down there when
you went there. I'm pretty sure you're trying to get
up in the rankings.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, Kobe, all of them was there in my year.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Kobe, Paul.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Shake Cotton, that boy Lord. I saw guy.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Right there. He was a man child then. So uh yeah,
Greedy Daniel was. You had Tim, Tim Thomas, all them
guys out there, Lester Earle, Chris Burgess, all them guys
down there.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Big boys was And that's when.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It started started getting noticed, started getting let us come
into the school, coming in from everywhere. And I think
what really set it off that year was my senior year.
I didn't make it to the McDonald's tournament. Yeah they
got me in the make the Magic Johnson tournament, but
they didn't they didn't. They didn't let me get into McDonald's.
So from there I just was on a vengeance. Then
(06:34):
I was just you know, upset working out and you know,
from there, I went to Maggie Johnson got m v
P took over. That was the year T mac was
coming out, So I was thinking myself, Ship, if I
can go here and go at T mac, ship, I
might be able to come out. Was projected the number
one pick, number one pick coming out that year. So
I looked at Pop said I might try after high
(06:56):
school to come out. He said, boy, you crazy, He said, Man,
that man already been you know, rooted to come out,
and he's been publicizing a lot of politics and Pops
is hollering that, Sonny macare a little bit. So he said,
just do one year in college and you know, come
out then. So but that's what started all of the
hype that you was.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Averaging your SCE like what in high school?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, Man, I would think I was averaging like thirty five.
You ain't made it, damn made? What was you? And
I was playing center. That's crazy, center, nod you everything.
And that's what took me so long, man, to get
(07:40):
my shot, my handles. And when I got to the league, man,
because I was playing center. Bro I was playing center
all the way up to college. Yeah, and got to
college and he moved me to the three. What y'all doing?
What you're doing high school? I mean state titles you get.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
None, get done? And I got there every year man
and blew it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Man. Yeah, Man, we had a we had a coach. Man,
I love to coach. Coach else he was Spanish, didn't
know what the hell he was doing. Every man year
we are twelve points, he's stalling with seven minutes later
that's man come back.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And two years in the row.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
My my college roommate beat me every year, Dean Oliver. Man,
Dean Oliver, he smoked me every year because he was
from Iowa and it didn't win it, man, So winning
the chip just wasn't it for me? Yeah, it was.
It was your college process, like college was quick, man,
and I was. You know, I was so young man,
I was still when I started college, I was sixteen
(08:37):
years old. I don't know. I think when I went
from Chicago to Vegas or or I think when I
went from Vegas to Chicago. I think they bumped me
up or something. I couldn't tell you. I don't even know.
That's that's interesting, really, and they be too old.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You got to catch out, Yeah, you was.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Actually I really didn't know how So my senior year,
I was sixteen years old. Then when I got to college,
you know, my stept birthday in September, I turned seventeen.
And then then I got drafted. I went it was
just like a semester and a half. Man.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I was in there going to class, not really going
to class.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
No I wasn't going to do that one at all. Man.
The dude kept saying, Rick, Man, you're gonna go to class.
You ain't gonna be eligible.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
For next year.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And you know all I kept next year, ain't no
next year. I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So man, the season was over. Bro. I threw my
books in the garbage and I went to the coach
and I said, hey, coach, I think I'm gonna put
my name in the draft. And I kid you not.
My Pops was in there, and he was like, well, Rick,
if you don't tell on me, I won't tell on you.
And I kind of looked at Pops. Yeah, but anyway, coach,
(09:49):
we're gone. Were out of here. Man, I ain't know
what I'm saying. I ain't know what he was I
still to this day really don't know what he's talking about.
I'm out of here, coach, whatever you're gonna tell, I'm out. Yeah.
I just wanted to let you know. I just want
to let you know before you hear about it on
the TV. But then from there on, I went to
l A. I started working out, and I was only
(10:09):
seventeen years old. Yeah, what you tell on me that
you wouldn't start me for the first five games. Say, man,
so I ain't say nothing. I'm out of here anyway.
So man, I was out. Man, What what made you
choose over all the other school? What was well? I
was supposed to go to UCLA with Baron, Yeah, but
(10:32):
my pop sat me down. He said, you know, you
can go to school with these other guys, and you
know it's gonna be a fight. You know, you got
five all Americans going there, you know, so your chance
is going to the league, you know, is you got
to battle, he said, So I suggest you go somewhere
where you can be a dog, you know, and you
can do what you want to do. And I thought
(10:54):
about it, and it took me a while to kind
of think about it, and I kind of got to like,
you know, you're making sense. Yeah I can go there.
I have it twenty thirty and then I'm gone, you know,
because since they know who I am, I've already been
in the draft talking to these people doing all this stuff.
So and he said go ahead, I said, I think
I'm gonna try. Iowa. So I committed when I was
(11:15):
a sophomore. Damn, my sophomore year I committed. I said,
I could change my mind if I want to, but
I'm gonna commit. See what happened. They still was coming,
but I stayed loyal. Went to Iowa, I said, I
went one year and was gone, just like it was playing. Yeah,
and that's when I got drafted. Use my og and
(11:35):
just saying that you're giving me all that insight. Man,
you've been had, that seeking destroyed mentality, you've been had that.
I'm getting a bucket. Man, it's already been already. Everyone
left that like a motor feet. I mean, just like
you said, just being that underdog and always been that underdog.
(11:56):
I think that was my fire, you know, always lit
that fire to me. And just being so young I was,
you know, I still was seventeen years old. I still
think I'm the third youngest ever to be drafted in the NBA.
But they don't put that out there. They don't give
me that love. I'm gonna start telling me put that
out there, man along. But just just going out there
(12:19):
and just being that underdog, you know, going to the draft,
people now knowing who I am. You know this guy
from Iowa, you know, did them workouts. I went to
like twenty five workouts, like nights. It this, Yeah, like
thirty nights and I destroyed every one of them. Yeah,
(12:41):
and that's what it was. That's what it was. I
made sure I was in shape. You know, I was
playing football and baseball and all that stuff anyway, so
I was already in shape and just going out there
and just saying, hey, popstep me. Somebody got to sit down, man.
So I took that same motivation and said, hey, somebody
got to sit down. So I'm going out here and
(13:01):
somebody gonna go sit down. Yeah, And that's that's what
started it off. And so the NBA process was always
in the mindset it was, it's cool about that situation, bro,
your old man, he's staying down with yeah, buying in.
I know, we was off camera talking about, you know,
our sons. You know how we separate the two from
(13:21):
being dad and the training. You actually went through those
tough dog days and you know what I'm saying I did.
It's crazy that how they all paying it out going
to the draft, give us that experience. What that was
giving you know, shout out the pops, uh shout being
down and you know, because he didn't know his pops,
so him being able to stop that that generational curse
(13:43):
right there and being down for me. And I've seen
I get to see the power of him being coached
and all the guys staying over at his at our house,
you know, because they didn't have Pops.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I got to see that power and what it did.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And you know, now, like we said, raising our kids
is and putting that same knowledge and and stuff we
got to put to to raising boys and being man.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
You know, that's what it's all about. So it was
good popsules in my side.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Or that draft process, like oh, man said the crib,
I say, at the crib, just in case. They said, look,
if you don't get drafted first round, you know they
ain't no. So I said, all right, I'm gonna stay
at the house just in case, you know, walk to
the thing. I stay at the house. So we just
had a party at the house. Everybody came to the
(14:33):
house and man and top ten went down and I
just started getting nervous. Man, it got to about the
fifteenth pick. I think I disappeared when I did myself
in the room somewhere and I did the thing. Was
nervous because that's all you kept here. You're gonna be overseas.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Don't do it, Rick, what you doing?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna show you what I'm doing. But man,
was just nervous when you got nerved. First pick. Oh lord,
yeah it was. It was on and popping man, trying
out the room. Everybody was happy, ran down the block.
It was.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It was on and poppular. It was yeah, man, it was.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It was a celebration for the family, the hard work
that we put in and they put in for the support.
It was amazing. Yeah, we had flast.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It was it. Man.
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
East Rookie Year was it was it a shock as well,
like coming to the league that young man, because at
that time now you wouldn't but nineteen, Yeah, it was eighteen.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Last year lock Yeah, that was a year lockout, Kurt.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, so it was. It was crazy. Guys were still
in LA working out, and it was kind of good
for me because instead of playing eighty three games, I
only got to play fifty games. So it was kind
of like a gift in the Kurks for me because
I'm like, I ain't got to go through this long
season and then you know, we played these fifty games.
(17:42):
It started like in December, I think we started, but
the guys are just meeting and I was getting to
know the whole league by guys just.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Meeting in LA and hanging out.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So it wasn't bad for me getting to know a
lot of the people that you know, wasn't just on
my team getting drafted and guys how it was sticking
together and sticking to that same stuff to get there
what they wanted in that lockout, and then it started
and it was fun. Man. I had some good vets Man.
It was all about them vets Man. It was amazing.
(18:12):
Real Brown j R. Rider No, No, I'm sorry, what's
his name from North Carolina?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I can't think of j R. Riding it's a riding, no, no,
but j R man.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
People Elden, David Wesley, Bobby Fields, Eddie, Eddie Jones. Yeah,
it was man. We had some real vets. We had
some really much crazy and something that was focused. Yeah,
Anthony Mason probably went out every night, every night, but
you know what, he was the first one in the gym. Yeah,
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so I was like, yeah, how you do that? Yeah,
I just seeing a few hours ago. Yeah, he in
there in the steam room, you know. And that's why
I learned it. You gotta, you know, you got to
be able to handle both tides. It my rookie year.
So we have some good vets that taught you know,
how to survive and become. And that's where the long
devity came in in the league was the vets. Yeah.
(19:18):
So if you you come in the league, you ain't
got no good vets, you know, you might not stick
in the league too long. It's interesting, bro, because that's
been a discussion for us today. We say it needs
to be more veterans in the locker room. That's pretty
much you know, in your favor. You had the right
way to, you know, get through the league. They say
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it's harder staying anyway, you know what I'm saying. You
get there, that's hard. The harder part is sticking. So
it is you gotta train, you know what I'm saying.
You gotta be able to get in there and do
the little things and keep you you know what I'm saying.
And then you got to deal with the politics. That's
the biggest part. You know that you don't that you
learn at a later age, but you know it's it's
(19:59):
it's tough ticken in there. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Did you get to play much of your rookie year?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I did. I my me and my me and Baron Day,
not Baron Brad Miller. Me and Brad was rookie. So
we got to like fourteen fifteen minutes a game, maybe
maybe ten fifteen minutes, and we got kind of the
junk points. Whenever they was blowing guys out, they went
to they went to the like the second round that year.
(20:25):
I think that was the year Glen Rice was got
traded in some crazy stuff that year. So, uh, yeah,
we got to play, so that was good. Yeah, me
and Brad we was killing in the last game we
scored like thirty something points, last game of the rookie year.
They us play the whole game that was against Boston.
I remember that, Danny Ainge and each way he said,
(20:46):
Danny ain't said that's the reason why I traded for
you that game right there.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That was like six years ago.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I guess, yeah, never know who watching talk about us
first introduction to the politics and business of basketball and
you know, transition to other teams because when you you
only stayed in Charlotte for hollow a year and a half.
In Charlotte, I was part of that big trade with
Eddie Jones and moved to Miami. So just kind of
(21:15):
learning a little bit of politics like that, Like damn,
why did they get traded? You know, I was just
getting comfortable in Charlotte, and they like, look Brook, you know,
they just throwing numbers in, people in to add the
numbers and you know, make sure it match.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Sometimes it just you get thrown in.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You ain't got no choice, and you know from there
my second year, I kind of knew somewhat of the
business of basketball, you know, but I think my, h
let's see, my my probably my first time learning the
business basketball was Cleveland. My big experience with that Lebron
and being traded and all that stuff, just seeing how,
(21:55):
you know, before he got drafted the year of what
kind of team you get at high You know, you
got a good nucleus of team that could survive in
the East, that can make it to the playoffs, you know,
but we you want us to lose, you know, and
it makes sense, you know, and it worked for what
they tried to do.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So yeah, moms boozers, Yeah we.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Had yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah, that was it.
And you know what, I clear the air for some
of them, you know, because what they were saying was
real from a basketball a basketball standpoint, Yeah, yeah, there
is no rookie gonna come in here and help you win,
(22:41):
no championship.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'm just being honest. And what they were saying at
the moment was real.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You know, it panned out to be twenty years later
the greatest player player, you know, So you know it
looked bad you play old films, but you know that's
what they was. That's what they were saying, and you
know it was real the moment, So that's what that's
was it? Any like that was that a distraction though
in the locker room. I know it probably was irritating
(23:09):
at the egg game. Yeah you think Lebron to help
this ball class, it is probably, y'all. It was a
little bit, but not for me. I was still on
business exactly. Yeah, I got get this. Yeah, so I
really wasn't even tripping. I was on business, man, I was.
That was a year I was having twenty four points.
I was on business. So I don't care who you draft.
Bring them on. We need them, we need them, Bring
(23:32):
them on. He can help us.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I'm out here scoring and doing all this by myself.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Actually we might, we might be nice to get you
feel Yeah, come on, help me get these bunches. You
know what I'm saying that that's what you're doing. Yeah.
So I was ready for it, but he ain't paying
out politic wise, it wasn't it. Yeah, you know, it's
only one way because when you bring them in that
year I'm scoring on need no plays. I figured that
(24:01):
game out. I don't need you don't got to run
me no plays. I figured out. I figured out my
third fourth year. If you're over there waiting on the
coach to call your play, something wrong, Yeah, something wrong?
You shoot them. Man, as soon as you pass that ball,
I'm live. Yeah, And that's what I do, was my mentality.
So it didn't matter, you know. So when you bring
(24:22):
him in, when you pass me the ball, I'm scoring. Bro.
We look up, I got twelve fifteen points in the
first quarter off pull up. Yeah, right, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And he's like okay.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
They thinking like this ain't gonna work, Like, okay, how
we're gonna get Lebron to score points now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Because yeah, he when they pass it, he passed it
right back.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah. And that's what he was doing his rook. He
was getting dimes back, he was getting in, he was scoring.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
But I was on fire. Yeah, you pass it my way,
I'm a score. So they figured out, you know, we
gotta kind get Rick out because if Rick keep going,
then I don't know the pace of how we're gonna
develop the young fella. How we wanted to be the
best player in the world, you know, And you know
how it go. When you got all this money invested
in something and these guys coming up, you gotta you
(25:16):
gotta play the you gotta play the stuff. So hey,
I got to ask you what you was thinking with
the triple double. The tip I was one. I was
on one, literally no, but man, you know I was.
It's a story to it. I was five games away
from the triple double. That's what they don't say, though.
(25:39):
They won't go back and look I was five Look,
five games away from a triple double. Whether it was
one rebound or one assists, I always had the points.
It was one rebound or one assist, five games straight.
All right, kid, you not so now I'm trying to
get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It's the fifth game in a row. It's eight minutes left,
and you know they got the stats over there, milk
flashio look up.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And say you need one more rebound.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Nigga, look up, Oh it's eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I got this. Man, next thing, you know, damn't miss.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
They ain't missing, Okay, so damn trying to go get
every rebound. He go, big man, get out the way.
Booze is stealing all the rebounds. Man, I look up,
it's like two minutes left. I'm like, ah, Jesus, coach,
don't take me out. In a minute. We're up by
twenty already. Coach did take me out though. But now
it's look up, it's thirty seconds left, and I'm like,
(26:34):
ah shit, now it's out of time out and I'm
over here plotting and playing it.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm gonna get this triple double.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Do I go down there and throw it off the
glass and try to get it back real quick. I'm
gonna shoot it fast and try to get it back.
I say, now, shing work all right, So you know what,
I can go back on my real That's what I'm
thinking in my time out.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I'm probably like twenty years old, you know, I'm wild.
I'm like, I'm gonna go back and just shoot that
joking hit my rebound. Man, that was the worst thing ever.
They talked about the talk that day ever, man, right
now to this day. But I told him, you know what,
I'd be the one to try to chase triple doubles.
You know, I'm chasing triple doubles.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
But you know what, you know they made a big
deal about it. In a month later, Bobby Surah did
the same thing a month later. Why he don't get
the same thing. Bobby Sarah did the same thing, kid,
you not huh? Yeah, check it out?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Check it out.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, And our Greek freaking them there. You know, that's
what they're doing, they chasing, you know, triple double. But
that was the story on that triple double. Yeah, Man,
Sloan was crazy. He was doing nuts over there.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I was telling him it was I wasn't even thinking
about that game. I was in my own little bag. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I'm telling you had that many.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, I was in my own I mean, you had
to be man in that league. You got to turn
that beast on. You eventually got to Boston and pretty
much like you said, Danny Ainges had already seen games,
and you know, how did that feel coming in Boston
because that was what two thousand two, two thousand and
three seasons? Yeah, two two three season and you got there?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
How was it? It was good? It was good getting there,
you know.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And they had Paul already, so I figured, you know,
instead of playing behind Brook, I'm gonna go play behind
somebody's season already ready to go to work. So I
went over there and was, you know, like like robbing
to Paul for a while. And it was good. Boston
was good. The fans, you know, they they they called
on to me well and accepted me. I was coming
(28:49):
in balling man, so for sure. Yeah, it was fun.
It was like a new new brush, fresh fresh breath
of air for me. An established team that was, you know,
going to the layoffs and stuff. So it was fun.
It was fun that following following year. It was my
rookie yeah huh. And you know, I've been keeping up
(29:11):
with Celtic history since then, old baby before then, but
I never seen the a fans section in the Guard.
You had your own fans sect, the Ricky Davis section
that was so lit man, but it's never been done. Yeah,
it was killing me. Bro I did funny man. I
always liked the fans and you know, giving back with
(29:33):
the foundation stuff and the kids, and it was an
opportunity to do my own little fan section and I
had little fans come out and do auditions and all
kinds of stuff to get these tickets. And man it
was coming off with the shirts off and painted stuff
and drums and man, it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
The Ricky Renne gaze, man, it was. It was lit man.
It was in there.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Cheering all crazy time. Yeah, when I wasn't in the game,
they knew automatically, just our cheering Ricky David and hey,
the coach hated it so much. He hated it. That
was the man. That was it. Man.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
It was crazy, and uh yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
So I tried to do it everywhere I went and
tried to get the fans involved in. I think that
was what it was all about. And nowadays seeing some
of these fans these days, man growing up different. Yeah,
a few of them I know now owning construction companies
and doing all kinds of stuff. And you know, just
from showing them, you know that that love. And then
he was your rookie. Yeah, he was a came in me, Paul,
(30:47):
this boy. I was like, yeah, yeah, out here getting it.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Better watch out.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Oh boy, man, he was out there right there.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I'm going to this field.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So when I come in into the into the you know,
the camp or whatever. I guess Ricky was pushed to
the bench or whatever, and he was like what.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, who starts?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Who started? What's going on? So I'm looking, I'm like,
take ta said, they said, you're well he said, he like,
watched this young on my team. Man, when I tell
you this man, your wealth like it came seven and
(31:36):
I'm talking about boxing one. As I took that from
off the treating this like the game like it won't. No,
I want to let you know that, Brom. You go
hard no matter what, no matter what. Man Doc made
(31:58):
me so mad man, and then he sat me down,
was like we thinking about taking you off the bench.
And I was like what, man quit? I was like
for what? He was just like what the something I did?
He was like, no, well we need some scoring off
the bench. And you know we we we just we
need help, you know, off the bench. And I'm just
like I was really looking like, man, that's a you
(32:20):
know how it is to get the he bro, come on,
man quit it. So you know what, I accepted it. Man,
I went out, boy, but man quit. I let him
have it. I turned the second team up. Boy. We
was over here, second team monsters. They had every day
(32:41):
like Rick chill Man practice. Yeah it's my game. Yeah,
it's on the cracks and that's what like, Man, they
giving them all Yeah yeah, second team. I'm going he
got your man, looks we was all the ball. Let
(33:02):
me put that down. This man ain't passing to nobody.
I'm talking about man oh Man. When he got it,
I just crashed to the glass. I was going to
get it, but he was that figure I got the
fan section. You feel me averaging a dub off the bench? Man,
(33:25):
I want to get it. I magine I was going
to show them every day in practice y'all made the
wrong decision. Yeah, every day. I'm gonna show you. Yeah,
you better not have practice, lea imagine that though fishing games?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
No, what was that?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Man? And that's what we got our game at man
quit front of the game.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I don't if I don't practice, I feel I ain't.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, yeah, that ain't gonna get that feeling. Yeah, them
days off they hurt me some days and days off
from two days off.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm gonna go and get me some shots. Yeah, because
I'm finna come out. I know.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
You play with some haller famous with with you know
the Truth and GP? What was the experience? What you
learned from playing with them guys? Oh?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Man, Man, just the truth? Man, just I learned truth.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Just always be professional, you know That's something I learned
about the truth, you know, about what's going on. Just
always be professional. And he ain't let all that ride
Rod and all that nonsense of what's going on get
to him. And that's what I learned with him. You know,
GP just just a vet you know, just always we
(34:47):
called him at his later years, but you know, just
just being that Vet all day, got that voice always with.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
That leadership around.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
He was a voice. He was a voice man, and
he made sure he might not be in practiced, but
he made sure everybody else over there he ain't. He
invented the show he did. Yeah, he's like, nah, I'm cool,
but he's gonna give you what you know he wanted
now in the game, the game. That was it. But yeah, man,
(35:18):
playing with them all stars, playing with KG Man, that boy. Yeah,
that's why I learned that. I thought I had a
good work ethic. Man, but that guy, true, that's where
I really learned. No days off, no practice off, no
time off, no nothing that got really subs nothing. Yeah,
(35:38):
he ain't playing different. Yeah, it's a whole difference. It's
another level that was to it. And you get that
level you own. I took that, put it in my
little belt. Yeah. I mean I already had a work ethic,
but that right there, because you know, you go hang
out after the game, put the flip flops on coach team,
(36:00):
minutes were done. Now we're getting this work. Yeah, And
that was it for eighty two games. That's what you
had to do. Mm hmm, yeah, or baddy or be
hurt grandfather in the building. And you already know. We
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no safe like simply Safe. Who is some of the
hardest players you have to guard in the league? Man, Gosh, Jesus,
man Ai chasing that dude? Oh Jesus, yeah, yeah, because
he wasn't a point guard. I kept looking at the
coach like, why you got me on him? You know,
(37:40):
I'm not the littlest on the floor. Why you got
me on Chuck?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
You know your size and your quickness.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
And I was just so confused, man, because I'm not
really a defensive player, you know, But why you got
me on Chuck? You know? He moving fast, He coming
on five screens, then he get the ball. He got
you on an island. Oh Lord? And Reggie Miller mm hmm,
going off them screens. Oh man, the walls, the break
wall of China. He had Dale Davis, him and the key.
(38:09):
They didn't like the Shoty passed back and come off
three more and they they all scream. Man them legal screams.
Is happening. You get to knee, the shoulder, the elbow
around to give you the butt. Yeah, man calls whatever
they do these days.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
But yeah, that girl that yeah, you know, oh man,
that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Then getting to go to Minnesota was cold.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Oh man, it's freezing. It was we got the way. Yeah,
you got to walk away, surprise trader. You knew it
was gonna happen. Uh what was Minnesota? No, No, that's
when I wanted to Uh. They Boston was kind of
falling over. So yeah, they games doing all this stuff,
and they everybody, everybody traded you out. Yeah, just he
(39:15):
traded everybody. And I was like, you know, I'm gonna
just go play with KG. See what that do? M
And then we started going to war the same thing.
You know, half these teams, the gms and the presidents,
they just they're confusing. I don't know what they you know,
they be changing teams this year, trying not to change
(39:36):
the team, win the championship, get rid of some guys.
It's just confusing on what they be wanting, you know.
But uh, but it was cool. I went down there
with KG balling.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
That was good. That was a good experience learned that
that work ethic that dog Bro tell me about that
that epic dunk contest was Vince called man that you
bring to the light round the dunk content. Man, what's
c TV? That was it? That was that was the
start of it, right there, boy, and and Vince. Man,
(40:07):
it was I was sacking after Vince. It was Jerry
Stackhouse right after and me right after that. The crowd
was still cheering for Vince.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Dang, yeah, man, like it's still rocking.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I'm still cheering, like, yeah, let me calm down, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, man, But that was it. That was a good
part of that.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Man. To be part of that epic dunk contest, you know,
one of the best.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
So I always thought, Man, I'm dunk contest.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It take a good level of focus.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Bro. You got a figure, Bro, the weekend when you
go to Allstar, we probably hitting the party appearances or whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You hitting the parties.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Then you got to be focused on this technique to
go out here to get these folks to get there.
Ain't no warm up. Then you can't go out and
warm up your dunk that you really want to do.
You know, the arena cold, you know, because you're playing
on the ice, you know. Yeah, so it's it's hard.
You see where it's sat now though, right yeah, the
dunk contest Now we're putting YouTube players in the game.
(41:07):
Oh yeah, they're doing for real. I mean what it's
bad when you got the G League guy coming up
to win the dunk contest, that's bad, dude. It looks
like for him skateboarder, Bro. He dunking the hell at
the ball? What's Matt mcneck man like a skateboarder, Bro.
He'll jump over your cop for for what I said. Man,
(41:32):
But we got the NBA going, Bro, we should have
players they got ready to do that.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Take to fix that. That's what I'm acing, man, I
have no idea. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I don't want to at the bank, Bro, they don't
want to do get it out of the bank, Broy.
It just same for everybody, I guess. And Magic Zion
getting joint crazy. That's what they want to That's it
right there. Put John in there, put Zion. Oh yeah,
mm hmmm, that's what we want to see. Everybody's scared
(42:04):
of losing these days. A lot of people say it
is they want to see that a little bit. Yeah
they started yeah, yeah to stop. Yeah, yeah, he ain't never. Yeah,
well you know, Lebrin got a lot of dunks. Yeah,
out the mud. You might just win just by doing anything. Yeah, yeah,
(42:28):
they got to.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
When you.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Experience was good. It wasn't bad. It was it wasn't bad.
I think it could have been better, you know, but
the G League and all that stuff and d Lee
was just starting. But I think it's it's not bad
guys getting an opportunity, but I think they kind of
trapped the guys a little bit for me, don't don't
(42:54):
pay them enough, don't let them get out the contracts enough,
and it's kept real politickets just go almost harder to
getting the G League than it is the NBA these days,
which don't make no sense. But I think it's a
good platform for the guys to have something like that,
you know, to be able to have that access, to
(43:16):
be able to try to get up to that next
level of the NBA. But my experience was good. I
got to meet a lot of young guys, uh there,
you know, I still talk to this day. So it
was good. That's when that's when I realized I wanted
to coach being in the G League, because that's why
I was doing most of the time anyway out there
on the floor coaching those guys and putting them in
(43:37):
the right spots and realize when when when I like
to coach. Yeah, we read about those matches between you
and Kobe and lay about those workouts were in those
run Oh yeah, man, that was that was the battle.
You know them U c l A runs man show.
That was it. Man.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
They still going to these days.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Uh, you know, but the battle or you know, going
at Kobe every summer, you know, that was it. You
know when he came in that gym, you know you
had to be ready. And you know I was going
at the gym's every summer. You know, like whoever came
in there, I was on them. So you know, to
see Cob coming there and go at him, it was
(44:21):
it was, you know where I realized that, damn, I'm
pretty damn good. You know, I'm going at this guy
and he would the best to ever do it, and you know,
just giving him trouble, not stopping him, but just giving
him trouble and making them guard. It was a battle, man,
you know, that's that was some days. It started with magic.
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hey kill, let us know what's the Ricky Davis rule. Kim,
what the hell is the Ricky Davis rule? The rule?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, what they say, it's a Ricky Davis rule. Room
mail after you'll have to do it.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Uh you're trying to get your uh trible.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
That's the rule.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
What they do to the you can't get they get
the trouble double Now listen, list the Ricky David listen.
Just go right for reading all. Let me read it, bro.
Ricky Day refers to the unsports like essentially, shout basket.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
You didn't know this, No, this is in the question.
That's crazy. They got rules, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, they gonna get to give me my realatives on that.
Then you didn't give my life, give me the fines
for the loan? People matter, not do the Ricky days. Okay, yeah,
we need all that. You see how they do? You
tell you they need to be Ricky and Bobby. Then
(47:02):
I'll tell you so you said you you know you
were into coaching and things of that nature. Right, Yeah,
can you give rember We was in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
What was that coach name? Who was was it? Brandon?
Speaker 1 (47:13):
We was doing the top one hundred, Yeah, coach Brandon. Yeah,
And I'm telling you look, I was so having so
much fun at the camp. And it's funny that you
still inspired by just teaching the youth.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Bro. I love it, just teaching, spreading the game to
the youngest.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Love that it is.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
It's just kind of like a passion, you know.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
And when that was realized, when it going there was
the first time I realized, like, I like it. You know,
I had it's a lot of time management with it,
but I like it. Just giving back to knowledge and
now with my kids giving them back. And that's where
I kind of practiced the giving back to knowledge and
you know what they need to know, and you know,
bring them the men. It's fun for me and I like,
(47:55):
I like the younger age. You know, you can tap
into them because by the time they get teenagees and
seniors and juniors, it's too late. You know, they picked
up a lot of bad habits and you know they
don't they're doing the wrong things. So you know, it's fun. Man,
I love it. It's like you like when the game
with basketball is right now, I don't.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I don't. It's terrible.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
You got a lot of kids that know how to
work out, you know, and that's that's that's what the
game looked like. It just looked like a lot of
workout moves out there. And you know, we grew up,
were playing in the parks, we played the game. We
ain't had nobody, a lot of trainers around the people
working the crowd every day. And you know some of
these guys they don't even play, you know, they just
work out all day long. So the game is you know,
(48:40):
they losing the real concept of the game and details
of the game and you know how to take advantage
of the game and they skill set. So I don't
like where it's at, but I think eventually they come back.
You know, once guys figure out that training ain't it,
you know, because if you can't take what you're training
(49:01):
and putting it into the whole game, then why you're
training so much.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
We heard a few guys playing is the best way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Learning learned the game five and five where you you know,
we got beat up by them old wine heads at
the park. You know what I'm saying. That was cold
come and beat you up. Yeah, and that's what you
have to get on the court, you know. And when
you when you lost, it took an hour to get back.
You know what I'm saying, So, you know, that's that's
(49:32):
how we grew up, and that's where we learned that toughness.
That's where we learned the game, the game of basketball.
That's point because we had that same discussion with k
Was on the show, and you hear that all the
time from the whole generation. The game is not in
a good place. But then you can argue the players
are better in today's.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Game, more skilled, you know, they just they work out.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
They polished the moves so much that they got a
lot of workout moves. But when you put somebody on
you can you do that same stuff that they just
you know, they are they're more skilled, but they really
don't know how to play the game, you know, And
it's a big difference when you're playing five on five
and you got to come through pin downs and picks
and run this play rather than just catch the ball
(50:17):
and do this move. You know, you got to learn
the tricks of the trade and you know how to
duck in on the weak side. You know, you can't
learn that training, you know, unless you got a training
teaching in duck in, you know what I mean. So
it's it's they are more skilled, yeah, they are, you know,
but can they play? And are they tough? That's the
(50:38):
thing they say. You know, back in the day, they
can't play back in the day, and now back in
the day can't play now.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
You know what I'm saying. So that's how I look
at it.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, we get Ain't nobody looking for the mid range quick? Yeah,
that's a lost art. It's funny you say that, bro.
You know how they stick the pick and roll? Now
they go under. No, no, they switch, either they switched
or the biggest always in the back. That's pull up heaven.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Man, you're gonna like them boys.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, it's over analytically, we're saying, Ricky beat us across
the head beautiful pause.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah that one was a pause. You know what I'm saying.
And I'm gonna beat them every time.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Yeah, that's a good knife for the beauty thing. That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
That's an easy bucket as a defender.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Though. If I'm sticking you, bro, and and we're giving
you that, I'm upset we're giving them naturally you're gonna
go over come on. I'm you know I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'm fortunately you left there. You got it.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
I gotta I gotta look they got a big, tell
a big you can stay the drop. Yeah, but when
he come back right boy left. You know what I'm saying,
that's what they couldn't do. I mean to go excellent,
it's there. But talk to us about the Ricky Davis Foundation. Man, yeah,
fees your health sections.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Foundation been going for about twenty some years. I started
the first year my my my career, and it's just
been going every year. But now, you know, me as
a player, didn't really know how to run foundation stuff
and what it was all about and the power in it.
But you know, now learning how to run it and
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got my family set up and me and my brother
and my mom's and my wife, we've been running it
strategically and getting sponsors and the city and the mayor's
and everybody. You know how a foundation supposed to be run.
So just being able to get back and help people,
it's always been the passion. But you know, we started
(53:09):
something in COVID that everybody was doing challenges, push up challenges,
car challenges. So me and my brother were sitting there
one day like, man, let's start a challenge and it's
gonna be a Fejia City Challenge and what it is
is basically taking celebrities and influencers and getting them to
buy into it and we come out and feed your city.
(53:31):
And it was during COVID, so we was giving away ppe.
I mean, the whole city was shut down and we
ended up feeding about five hundred thousand people. Man, I
mean it was ten thousand people per state. Yeah. Man,
it was an amazing thing and we got to see
a lot of people who needed help and all the stuff.
But a lot of celebrities stepped in and you know,
(53:52):
fed the city and accepted the challenges.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
So it was good.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
And we've just been running it ever since and keeping
it going and doing homeless stuff, doing all kinds of
stuff to just you know, get back when we came. Man.
You know, so when retirement came, was that that was
how you just ventured into that?
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Or was yeah, how I ventured into it all the way?
Speaker 1 (54:10):
It was because it just kind of you know, life
after ball man, that stuff rough. You know, not having
the knowledge and the toolage that you got, you.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Know, to find out on your own. It's rough.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
So you know, we should start building on the foundation
and doing all kinds of stuff, trying to build the
brand and doing all kind of stuff and found out
the power and the foundation and how I could take
care of the whole family and build it up and
create that legacy. And that's why we call the Regadators
Legacy Foundation. Be able to help others help themselves, and
that's what it created. So it's a it's a good
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tool for the kids and homeless people. And we do
a lot of homeless stuff, homeless drives and all kind of.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Food initiatives with the food desert food deserts and.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
All kind of stuff. So heavy in the community. Yeah,
heavy in the community. Man, m yeall was heavy too,
uh with them braids in the head man said that
was it? Yeah, I started. It's gone. I wish I
had it up. No, but yeah, starting that whole swag
(55:15):
man with the braids and the head band. I said,
we was before our time, washing and show the belt
buckles and we was out there getting it. Thinking about
that fashion now and today it's scary starting to come
back around a little bit. But it was showing me
for a minute it was tight. Yeah, well I tried
(55:39):
it a few times skinny jeans, but while it was poking.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Out and yeah, no, man's coming back around.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Man, but yeah, man, it's it's fun. Man. Who gave
you the name tricky Ricky? Man, I don't know where
I got tricky from. Man. I think I just went
from slick rick to tricky Ricky. I don't know if
that was Jay Hart. I don't know where I got
(56:09):
trick from.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
It just Man, that's trick Jelannie McCoy. Yeah yeah, women
you was was you was in the Clippers with BD
and uh huh bo oh yeah yeah yeah, crazy Stirling
over there? Yeah nuts.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
Who you like? Who you like in the league right now?
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Man? I like that boy with that mid range game
like that. Yeah, that boy nice.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
I like a few people in there. They holler Burke
before balling, uh Mitchell. I like the trade when he
went from there to Cleveland kind of yeah, you got
to do what he wanted a little bit.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Seemed like open it up for him. But yeah, that
some young killers.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
And I've been watching in the game. We could to
see what he's gonna be like next year though, you know,
coming out of the injury.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
I don't think he's coming back. I think he's coming
back this year.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
I mean, you get hurt that late year, maybe halfway
the whole season. I think so, I think so. I mean,
don't be back though he's gonna bounce back for show.
He was a problem and there he was a whole problem.
And I'm talking about his whole game was just set up.
It's either I'm easy, go down, hit you with it
(57:30):
late or pulling three. I'm getting somebody involved, that's it.
And when he went down, it was over. Rick Carlin coach.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
That's interesting with Hallibird. Yeah, you can play what the helly?
What the boy got the whole song out there, don't he?
Speaker 1 (57:45):
Yeah? Boy creating it. Bro, what's the hardest match up
you had to face? Man? Something? This food right here?
Birth this food all time time going to gainst him.
We knew what time it was when I was on. Yeah,
we played against each other. And then hold on, wait, man,
(58:07):
what what you mean off saying.
Speaker 6 (58:15):
All day that boy played without the ball? Boy the
question because you know I'm slipping, you know I'm cheating
it over there. Man, Man, I'm trying to Oh man,
we're telling that straight trick.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Hey sold that trick, right, He going through it this week?
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Right? He killing killing but he like there they keep
taking me out the game. I got I got eighteen.
I'm trying to get this done right. So this whole
week they just man, it was like bro doing so
(58:57):
we had get in the game. Second he on the
staked unit, but he six man, he shooting six years.
So the game they we end up coming back Tricky
over there, I'm getting on storm, don't starve every shot
(59:19):
I shoot feel heavy than the month. But he talking
about don't stop me. I'm like trying to get back.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
In the game, to get back here.
Speaker 7 (59:29):
I can't over there right there as a rookie, I'm
already you know, I might take some rids back to
the crib with him the bush with the minutes that
I need to be playing more than I was understanding
the business through that though, Like when contract year come
that that's when I learned all they'll play.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
With your mini. You know what I'm saying, contract You
knowee what I'm saying, don't we don't want we want
you to kill, but we don't want you to kill
that much. Yeah, he trying to get the choice.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I learned that around you don't kill.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
It ain't gonna You always had careers, but you always
was in that more fucker just tricky Ricky Man, they're
trying to go get it. And that was that was
the politics of the basketball. Man, that I had to
learn what it was all about, you know, because I'm
so amped up about the game and you get in
(01:00:23):
your own thing about the game.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
But it's a game inside the game.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
You know that you had to learn. And I'm glad
I learned it at a late age, but you know,
that's what I'm good teach kids about it. Man, you
show you know, you definitely out the mud man. You know,
we're here to give your flowers. Me and and you
had a hell of a career. Man. Always was a
competitor and always was a real one, always out the mud.
(01:00:48):
Appreciate that. We appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Yes, sir, thanks for having me boy shut love
Whoa, I get it out the mud dirt put me.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's gonna feel me first, she'd be bag gonna do
you worse. Babo is gonna get you hurt.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's been fixing all my vass still might pull up
in either church.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I go up and down.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Feel like that hurts better.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I go out like a thud.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Bet I'll put something in the dirt durst.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I came up from the mud and.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Then it's a down no shirt shirt break the ben
make go work straight than my hand from out up her,
I gonna run the mud. They finally found that diamond
in the dirt ice.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hey kid, I gotta make it just this out the
mud man.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
What's good y'allshure boy t a man right now here
with my boy z bo yo yo out the mud.
We here it did. But today were getting blessed on
the platform with Tricky Ricky what they call him. You understand,
one of the best scores that I have seen on
the one two pull up side in the league with
my eye.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What's up? Man, Appreciate y'all having me on this thing.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Man. You know, first off, I like to congratulate y'all
for getting y'all. You know Jerseys, hunging and risers. Man,
it's that's love and just saluting you know, give y'all
y'all flowers and what it means to achieve something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So I just want to congratulate y'all off the rip
for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Real talk killer growing up in Chicago, moving an hour.
Talk to us about that transition, because a lot of
people say, well, they look on your on your bio,
you from out you got.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Man, So just tell us about your.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, man. You know, I was born in Las Vegas, Nevada.
First off, uh, and you know, my father was in
the military. So we moved from Vegas to Chicago, and
you know that's when the lights went on. Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You know, in Vegas we lived good. We was in
the house of our own.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But moving to Chicago, we moved with Granny and you know,
she already had four or five families in the in
the house and it was rough, you know, and got
the realized what it was to be in the city.
And you know, you know, thank god, you know, five
six years later, Pops got us out of the city
and moved to Iowa. You know, that was probably the
(02:10):
best thing that ever happened in my career mentally and physically.
Uh you know, because growing up in the shy Is
it's a monster. And coming up from from Vegas, you know,
where they property like l a type thing and you know,
with the with the with the accent and sounded like
the white boy type thing.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So when I got to Chicago, it was like a
culture shop.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You know. I had already knew he was from and
visited there, you know for weekends, but just realizing what
kind of monster it really was, you know. So so yeah,
I'm from the shot you know me. I'm still on
eight eighty eighty fifth and Morgan, They're still there. So yes, sir,
right there, Pops in them from the Wild Hunts and
(02:53):
Mom and them from El Gail Guard from from the greensantastic.
So that's all we know. What was that culture shock?
What was it like moving to Iowa? Man?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It was it was good.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It was It was something kind of like what Vegas was,
you know, kind of like with peace. Uh you know,
you ain't got you know, the white people on one
end chasing you with the racism and the gang bangers
on one end chasing you on one corner. So it
was just kind of like I was able to grow
mature and start playing sports and something I love. So
(03:29):
it helped me because I know, you know, we really
moved from Chicago because my older brother was, you know,
tied into the streets. So Pops wanted something different. So
to be able to move us all to Iowa and
get the opportunity that we want to live, right and
I look up your shoulder every second, you know, that
was a blessing. So thank god we did more than Iowa.
(03:50):
And then just getting there, it was it felt like
it was a cake walk, you know, coming from the show.
It just felt like everybody wasn't on my level and
just you know, just started being that dog. And that's
where it started.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Chicago roots getting in your bone.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Man. But I get a little wit so when you
moved out there young and so I'm pretty sure when
you was in aau, was you playing basketball any other sports? Man?
I wasn't even playing basketball. Then you just started playing basketball.
I moved to Iowa. My pops played. He played all
(04:27):
the time, but he didn't force me into it. I
played baseball, so I was I was hitting home runs,
all American baseball player. And then about sixth seventh grade,
I started playing basketball when we moved to Iowa, and
I just got better and better every summer. Start playing aau,
Pop started coaching, and then it just got better and better.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You know, just got good.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I start, you know, training and working out with Pops
every day, and then just just got good. I start
going to abc D camps and Nike camps, and you know,
just start Once summer I took baseball off because I
was playing baseball in the summer and I wasn't able
to play basketball. I wasn't able to go to ABCD
camp my freshman sophomore year that I was playing baseball
(05:10):
in the summer. So I said, you know, let me
try this basketball thing full time, because baseball started getting
little boring, you know, sitting down the sun bacon all day,
eating some flower seeds. You know, he was good at it,
but it just wasn't like basketball. Once you start playing
and and getting that rhythm and started learning how to play,
they start getting fun or you know, So that summer
(05:31):
in my junior year, my sophomore junior year, I was
able to go.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
To the abc D camp and Nike camp. Man, it
just get it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Just some of the players that was down there when
you went there. I'm pretty sure you're trying to get
up in the rankings.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, Kobe, all of them was there in my year.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Kobe, Paul.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Shake Cotton, that boy Lord. I saw guy.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Right there. He was a man child then. So uh yeah,
Greedy Daniel was. You had Tim, Tim Thomas, all them
guys out there, Lester Earle, Chris Burgess, all them guys
down there.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Big boys was And that's when.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It started started getting noticed, started getting let us come
into the school, coming in from everywhere. And I think
what really set it off that year was my senior year.
I didn't make it to the McDonald's tournament. Yeah they
got me in the make the Magic Johnson tournament, but
they didn't they didn't. They didn't let me get into McDonald's.
So from there I just was on a vengeance. Then
(06:34):
I was just you know, upset working out and you know,
from there, I went to Maggie Johnson got m v
P took over. That was the year T mac was
coming out, So I was thinking myself, Ship, if I
can go here and go at T mac, ship, I
might be able to come out. Was projected the number
one pick, number one pick coming out that year. So
I looked at Pop said I might try after high
(06:56):
school to come out. He said, boy, you crazy, He said, Man,
that man already been you know, rooted to come out,
and he's been publicizing a lot of politics and Pops
is hollering that, Sonny macare a little bit. So he said,
just do one year in college and you know, come
out then. So but that's what started all of the
hype that you was.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Averaging your SCE like what in high school?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, Man, I would think I was averaging like thirty five.
You ain't made it, damn made? What was you? And
I was playing center. That's crazy, center, nod you everything.
And that's what took me so long, man, to get
(07:40):
my shot, my handles. And when I got to the league, man,
because I was playing center. Bro I was playing center
all the way up to college. Yeah, and got to
college and he moved me to the three. What y'all doing?
What you're doing high school? I mean state titles you get.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
None, get done? And I got there every year man
and blew it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Man. Yeah, Man, we had a we had a coach. Man,
I love to coach. Coach else he was Spanish, didn't
know what the hell he was doing. Every man year
we are twelve points, he's stalling with seven minutes later
that's man come back.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And two years in the row.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
My my college roommate beat me every year, Dean Oliver. Man,
Dean Oliver, he smoked me every year because he was
from Iowa and it didn't win it, man, So winning
the chip just wasn't it for me? Yeah, it was.
It was your college process, like college was quick, man,
and I was. You know, I was so young man,
I was still when I started college, I was sixteen
(08:37):
years old. I don't know. I think when I went
from Chicago to Vegas or or I think when I
went from Vegas to Chicago. I think they bumped me
up or something. I couldn't tell you. I don't even know.
That's that's interesting, really, and they be too old.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You got to catch out, Yeah, you was.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Actually I really didn't know how So my senior year,
I was sixteen years old. Then when I got to college,
you know, my stept birthday in September, I turned seventeen.
And then then I got drafted. I went it was
just like a semester and a half. Man.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I was in there going to class, not really going
to class.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
No I wasn't going to do that one at all. Man.
The dude kept saying, Rick, Man, you're gonna go to class.
You ain't gonna be eligible.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
For next year.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And you know all I kept next year, ain't no
next year. I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So man, the season was over. Bro. I threw my
books in the garbage and I went to the coach
and I said, hey, coach, I think I'm gonna put
my name in the draft. And I kid you not.
My Pops was in there, and he was like, well, Rick,
if you don't tell on me, I won't tell on you.
And I kind of looked at Pops. Yeah, but anyway, coach,
(09:49):
we're gone. Were out of here. Man, I ain't know
what I'm saying. I ain't know what he was I
still to this day really don't know what he's talking about.
I'm out of here, coach, whatever you're gonna tell, I'm out. Yeah.
I just wanted to let you know. I just want
to let you know before you hear about it on
the TV. But then from there on, I went to
l A. I started working out, and I was only
(10:09):
seventeen years old. Yeah, what you tell on me that
you wouldn't start me for the first five games. Say, man,
so I ain't say nothing. I'm out of here anyway.
So man, I was out. Man, What what made you
choose over all the other school? What was well? I
was supposed to go to UCLA with Baron, Yeah, but
(10:32):
my pop sat me down. He said, you know, you
can go to school with these other guys, and you
know it's gonna be a fight. You know, you got
five all Americans going there, you know, so your chance
is going to the league, you know, is you got
to battle, he said, So I suggest you go somewhere
where you can be a dog, you know, and you
can do what you want to do. And I thought
(10:54):
about it, and it took me a while to kind
of think about it, and I kind of got to like,
you know, you're making sense. Yeah I can go there.
I have it twenty thirty and then I'm gone, you know,
because since they know who I am, I've already been
in the draft talking to these people doing all this stuff.
So and he said go ahead, I said, I think
I'm gonna try. Iowa. So I committed when I was
(11:15):
a sophomore. Damn, my sophomore year I committed. I said,
I could change my mind if I want to, but
I'm gonna commit. See what happened. They still was coming,
but I stayed loyal. Went to Iowa, I said, I
went one year and was gone, just like it was playing. Yeah,
and that's when I got drafted. Use my og and
(11:35):
just saying that you're giving me all that insight. Man,
you've been had, that seeking destroyed mentality, you've been had that.
I'm getting a bucket. Man, it's already been already. Everyone
left that like a motor feet. I mean, just like
you said, just being that underdog and always been that underdog.
(11:56):
I think that was my fire, you know, always lit
that fire to me. And just being so young I was,
you know, I still was seventeen years old. I still
think I'm the third youngest ever to be drafted in the NBA.
But they don't put that out there. They don't give
me that love. I'm gonna start telling me put that
out there, man along. But just just going out there
(12:19):
and just being that underdog, you know, going to the draft,
people now knowing who I am. You know this guy
from Iowa, you know, did them workouts. I went to
like twenty five workouts, like nights. It this, Yeah, like
thirty nights and I destroyed every one of them. Yeah,
(12:41):
and that's what it was. That's what it was. I
made sure I was in shape. You know, I was
playing football and baseball and all that stuff anyway, so
I was already in shape and just going out there
and just saying, hey, popstep me. Somebody got to sit down, man.
So I took that same motivation and said, hey, somebody
got to sit down. So I'm going out here and
(13:01):
somebody gonna go sit down. Yeah, And that's that's what
started it off. And so the NBA process was always
in the mindset it was, it's cool about that situation, bro,
your old man, he's staying down with yeah, buying in.
I know, we was off camera talking about, you know,
our sons. You know how we separate the two from
(13:21):
being dad and the training. You actually went through those
tough dog days and you know what I'm saying I did.
It's crazy that how they all paying it out going
to the draft, give us that experience. What that was
giving you know, shout out the pops, uh shout being
down and you know, because he didn't know his pops,
so him being able to stop that that generational curse
(13:43):
right there and being down for me. And I've seen
I get to see the power of him being coached
and all the guys staying over at his at our house,
you know, because they didn't have Pops.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I got to see that power and what it did.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And you know, now, like we said, raising our kids
is and putting that same knowledge and and stuff we
got to put to to raising boys and being man.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
You know, that's what it's all about. So it was
good popsules in my side.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Or that draft process, like oh, man said the crib,
I say, at the crib, just in case. They said, look,
if you don't get drafted first round, you know they
ain't no. So I said, all right, I'm gonna stay
at the house just in case, you know, walk to
the thing. I stay at the house. So we just
had a party at the house. Everybody came to the
(14:33):
house and man and top ten went down and I
just started getting nervous. Man, it got to about the
fifteenth pick. I think I disappeared when I did myself
in the room somewhere and I did the thing. Was
nervous because that's all you kept here. You're gonna be overseas.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Don't do it, Rick, what you doing?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna show you what I'm doing. But man,
was just nervous when you got nerved. First pick. Oh lord,
yeah it was. It was on and popping man, trying
out the room. Everybody was happy, ran down the block.
It was.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It was on and poppular. It was yeah, man, it was.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It was a celebration for the family, the hard work
that we put in and they put in for the support.
It was amazing. Yeah, we had flast.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It was it. Man.
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
East Rookie Year was it was it a shock as well,
like coming to the league that young man, because at
that time now you wouldn't but nineteen, Yeah, it was eighteen.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Last year lock Yeah, that was a year lockout, Kurt.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, so it was. It was crazy. Guys were still
in LA working out, and it was kind of good
for me because instead of playing eighty three games, I
only got to play fifty games. So it was kind
of like a gift in the Kurks for me because
I'm like, I ain't got to go through this long
season and then you know, we played these fifty games.
(17:42):
It started like in December, I think we started, but
the guys are just meeting and I was getting to
know the whole league by guys just.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Meeting in LA and hanging out.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So it wasn't bad for me getting to know a
lot of the people that you know, wasn't just on
my team getting drafted and guys how it was sticking
together and sticking to that same stuff to get there
what they wanted in that lockout, and then it started
and it was fun. Man. I had some good vets Man.
It was all about them vets Man. It was amazing.
(18:12):
Real Brown j R. Rider No, No, I'm sorry, what's
his name from North Carolina?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I can't think of j R. Riding it's a riding, no, no,
but j R man.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
People Elden, David Wesley, Bobby Fields, Eddie, Eddie Jones. Yeah,
it was man. We had some real vets. We had
some really much crazy and something that was focused. Yeah,
Anthony Mason probably went out every night, every night, but
you know what, he was the first one in the gym. Yeah,
(18:55):
so I was like, yeah, how you do that? Yeah,
I just seeing a few hours ago. Yeah, he in
there in the steam room, you know. And that's why
I learned it. You gotta, you know, you got to
be able to handle both tides. It my rookie year.
So we have some good vets that taught you know,
how to survive and become. And that's where the long
devity came in in the league was the vets. Yeah.
(19:18):
So if you you come in the league, you ain't
got no good vets, you know, you might not stick
in the league too long. It's interesting, bro, because that's
been a discussion for us today. We say it needs
to be more veterans in the locker room. That's pretty
much you know, in your favor. You had the right
way to, you know, get through the league. They say
(19:38):
it's harder staying anyway, you know what I'm saying. You
get there, that's hard. The harder part is sticking. So
it is you gotta train, you know what I'm saying.
You gotta be able to get in there and do
the little things and keep you you know what I'm saying.
And then you got to deal with the politics. That's
the biggest part. You know that you don't that you
learn at a later age, but you know it's it's
(19:59):
it's tough ticken in there. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Did you get to play much of your rookie year?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I did. I my me and my me and Baron Day,
not Baron Brad Miller. Me and Brad was rookie. So
we got to like fourteen fifteen minutes a game, maybe
maybe ten fifteen minutes, and we got kind of the
junk points. Whenever they was blowing guys out, they went
to they went to the like the second round that year.
(20:25):
I think that was the year Glen Rice was got
traded in some crazy stuff that year. So, uh, yeah,
we got to play, so that was good. Yeah, me
and Brad we was killing in the last game we
scored like thirty something points, last game of the rookie year.
They us play the whole game that was against Boston.
I remember that, Danny Ainge and each way he said,
(20:46):
Danny ain't said that's the reason why I traded for
you that game right there.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That was like six years ago.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I guess, yeah, never know who watching talk about us
first introduction to the politics and business of basketball and
you know, transition to other teams because when you you
only stayed in Charlotte for hollow a year and a half.
In Charlotte, I was part of that big trade with
Eddie Jones and moved to Miami. So just kind of
(21:15):
learning a little bit of politics like that, Like damn,
why did they get traded? You know, I was just
getting comfortable in Charlotte, and they like, look Brook, you know,
they just throwing numbers in, people in to add the
numbers and you know, make sure it match.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Sometimes it just you get thrown in.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You ain't got no choice, and you know from there
my second year, I kind of knew somewhat of the
business of basketball, you know, but I think my, h
let's see, my my probably my first time learning the
business basketball was Cleveland. My big experience with that Lebron
and being traded and all that stuff, just seeing how,
(21:55):
you know, before he got drafted the year of what
kind of team you get at high You know, you
got a good nucleus of team that could survive in
the East, that can make it to the playoffs, you know,
but we you want us to lose, you know, and
it makes sense, you know, and it worked for what
they tried to do.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So yeah, moms boozers, Yeah we.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Had yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah, that was it.
And you know what, I clear the air for some
of them, you know, because what they were saying was
real from a basketball a basketball standpoint, Yeah, yeah, there
is no rookie gonna come in here and help you win,
(22:41):
no championship.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'm just being honest. And what they were saying at
the moment was real.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You know, it panned out to be twenty years later
the greatest player player, you know, So you know it
looked bad you play old films, but you know that's
what they was. That's what they were saying, and you
know it was real the moment, So that's what that's
was it? Any like that was that a distraction though
in the locker room. I know it probably was irritating
(23:09):
at the egg game. Yeah you think Lebron to help
this ball class, it is probably, y'all. It was a
little bit, but not for me. I was still on
business exactly. Yeah, I got get this. Yeah, so I
really wasn't even tripping. I was on business, man, I was.
That was a year I was having twenty four points.
I was on business. So I don't care who you draft.
Bring them on. We need them, we need them, Bring
(23:32):
them on. He can help us.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I'm out here scoring and doing all this by myself.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Actually we might, we might be nice to get you
feel Yeah, come on, help me get these bunches. You
know what I'm saying that that's what you're doing. Yeah.
So I was ready for it, but he ain't paying
out politic wise, it wasn't it. Yeah, you know, it's
only one way because when you bring them in that
year I'm scoring on need no plays. I figured that
(24:01):
game out. I don't need you don't got to run
me no plays. I figured out. I figured out my
third fourth year. If you're over there waiting on the
coach to call your play, something wrong, Yeah, something wrong?
You shoot them. Man, as soon as you pass that ball,
I'm live. Yeah, And that's what I do, was my mentality.
So it didn't matter, you know. So when you bring
(24:22):
him in, when you pass me the ball, I'm scoring. Bro.
We look up, I got twelve fifteen points in the
first quarter off pull up. Yeah, right, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And he's like okay.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
They thinking like this ain't gonna work, Like, okay, how
we're gonna get Lebron to score points now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Because yeah, he when they pass it, he passed it
right back.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah. And that's what he was doing his rook. He
was getting dimes back, he was getting in, he was scoring.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
But I was on fire. Yeah, you pass it my way,
I'm a score. So they figured out, you know, we
gotta kind get Rick out because if Rick keep going,
then I don't know the pace of how we're gonna
develop the young fella. How we wanted to be the
best player in the world, you know, And you know
how it go. When you got all this money invested
in something and these guys coming up, you gotta you
(25:16):
gotta play the you gotta play the stuff. So hey,
I got to ask you what you was thinking with
the triple double. The tip I was one. I was
on one, literally no, but man, you know I was.
It's a story to it. I was five games away
from the triple double. That's what they don't say, though.
(25:39):
They won't go back and look I was five Look,
five games away from a triple double. Whether it was
one rebound or one assists, I always had the points.
It was one rebound or one assist, five games straight.
All right, kid, you not so now I'm trying to
get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It's the fifth game in a row. It's eight minutes left,
and you know they got the stats over there, milk
flashio look up.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And say you need one more rebound.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Nigga, look up, Oh it's eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I got this. Man, next thing, you know, damn't miss.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
They ain't missing, Okay, so damn trying to go get
every rebound. He go, big man, get out the way.
Booze is stealing all the rebounds. Man, I look up,
it's like two minutes left. I'm like, ah, Jesus, coach,
don't take me out. In a minute. We're up by
twenty already. Coach did take me out though. But now
it's look up, it's thirty seconds left, and I'm like,
(26:34):
ah shit, now it's out of time out and I'm
over here plotting and playing it.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm gonna get this triple double.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Do I go down there and throw it off the
glass and try to get it back real quick. I'm
gonna shoot it fast and try to get it back.
I say, now, shing work all right, So you know what,
I can go back on my real That's what I'm
thinking in my time out.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I'm probably like twenty years old, you know, I'm wild.
I'm like, I'm gonna go back and just shoot that
joking hit my rebound. Man, that was the worst thing ever.
They talked about the talk that day ever, man, right
now to this day. But I told him, you know what,
I'd be the one to try to chase triple doubles.
You know, I'm chasing triple doubles.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
But you know what, you know they made a big
deal about it. In a month later, Bobby Surah did
the same thing a month later. Why he don't get
the same thing. Bobby Sarah did the same thing, kid,
you not huh? Yeah, check it out?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Check it out.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, And our Greek freaking them there. You know, that's
what they're doing, they chasing, you know, triple double. But
that was the story on that triple double. Yeah, Man,
Sloan was crazy. He was doing nuts over there.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I was telling him it was I wasn't even thinking
about that game. I was in my own little bag. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I'm telling you had that many.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, I was in my own I mean, you had
to be man in that league. You got to turn
that beast on. You eventually got to Boston and pretty
much like you said, Danny Ainges had already seen games,
and you know, how did that feel coming in Boston
because that was what two thousand two, two thousand and
three seasons? Yeah, two two three season and you got there?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
How was it? It was good? It was good getting there,
you know.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And they had Paul already, so I figured, you know,
instead of playing behind Brook, I'm gonna go play behind
somebody's season already ready to go to work. So I
went over there and was, you know, like like robbing
to Paul for a while. And it was good. Boston
was good. The fans, you know, they they they called
on to me well and accepted me. I was coming
(28:49):
in balling man, so for sure. Yeah, it was fun.
It was like a new new brush, fresh fresh breath
of air for me. An established team that was, you know,
going to the layoffs and stuff. So it was fun.
It was fun that following following year. It was my
rookie yeah huh. And you know, I've been keeping up
(29:11):
with Celtic history since then, old baby before then, but
I never seen the a fans section in the Guard.
You had your own fans sect, the Ricky Davis section
that was so lit man, but it's never been done. Yeah,
it was killing me. Bro I did funny man. I
always liked the fans and you know, giving back with
(29:33):
the foundation stuff and the kids, and it was an
opportunity to do my own little fan section and I
had little fans come out and do auditions and all
kinds of stuff to get these tickets. And man it
was coming off with the shirts off and painted stuff
and drums and man, it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
The Ricky Renne gaze, man, it was. It was lit man.
It was in there.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Cheering all crazy time. Yeah, when I wasn't in the game,
they knew automatically, just our cheering Ricky David and hey,
the coach hated it so much. He hated it. That
was the man. That was it. Man.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
It was crazy, and uh yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
So I tried to do it everywhere I went and
tried to get the fans involved in. I think that
was what it was all about. And nowadays seeing some
of these fans these days, man growing up different. Yeah,
a few of them I know now owning construction companies
and doing all kinds of stuff. And you know, just
from showing them, you know that that love. And then
he was your rookie. Yeah, he was a came in me, Paul,
(30:47):
this boy. I was like, yeah, yeah, out here getting it.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Better watch out.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Oh boy, man, he was out there right there.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I'm going to this field.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So when I come in into the into the you know,
the camp or whatever. I guess Ricky was pushed to
the bench or whatever, and he was like what.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, who starts?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Who started? What's going on? So I'm looking, I'm like,
take ta said, they said, you're well he said, he like,
watched this young on my team. Man, when I tell
you this man, your wealth like it came seven and
(31:36):
I'm talking about boxing one. As I took that from
off the treating this like the game like it won't. No,
I want to let you know that, Brom. You go
hard no matter what, no matter what. Man Doc made
(31:58):
me so mad man, and then he sat me down,
was like we thinking about taking you off the bench.
And I was like what, man quit? I was like
for what? He was just like what the something I did?
He was like, no, well we need some scoring off
the bench. And you know we we we just we
need help, you know, off the bench. And I'm just
like I was really looking like, man, that's a you
(32:20):
know how it is to get the he bro, come on,
man quit it. So you know what, I accepted it. Man,
I went out, boy, but man quit. I let him
have it. I turned the second team up. Boy. We
was over here, second team monsters. They had every day
(32:41):
like Rick chill Man practice. Yeah it's my game. Yeah,
it's on the cracks and that's what like, Man, they
giving them all Yeah yeah, second team. I'm going he
got your man, looks we was all the ball. Let
(33:02):
me put that down. This man ain't passing to nobody.
I'm talking about man oh Man. When he got it,
I just crashed to the glass. I was going to
get it, but he was that figure I got the
fan section. You feel me averaging a dub off the bench? Man,
(33:25):
I want to get it. I magine I was going
to show them every day in practice y'all made the
wrong decision. Yeah, every day. I'm gonna show you. Yeah,
you better not have practice, lea imagine that though fishing games?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
No, what was that?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Man? And that's what we got our game at man
quit front of the game.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I don't if I don't practice, I feel I ain't.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, yeah, that ain't gonna get that feeling. Yeah, them
days off they hurt me some days and days off
from two days off.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm gonna go and get me some shots. Yeah, because
I'm finna come out. I know.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
You play with some haller famous with with you know
the Truth and GP? What was the experience? What you
learned from playing with them guys? Oh?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Man, Man, just the truth? Man, just I learned truth.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Just always be professional, you know That's something I learned
about the truth, you know, about what's going on. Just
always be professional. And he ain't let all that ride
Rod and all that nonsense of what's going on get
to him. And that's what I learned with him. You know,
GP just just a vet you know, just always we
(34:47):
called him at his later years, but you know, just
just being that Vet all day, got that voice always with.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
That leadership around.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
He was a voice. He was a voice man, and
he made sure he might not be in practiced, but
he made sure everybody else over there he ain't. He
invented the show he did. Yeah, he's like, nah, I'm cool,
but he's gonna give you what you know he wanted
now in the game, the game. That was it. But yeah, man,
(35:18):
playing with them all stars, playing with KG Man, that boy. Yeah,
that's why I learned that. I thought I had a
good work ethic. Man, but that guy, true, that's where
I really learned. No days off, no practice off, no
time off, no nothing that got really subs nothing. Yeah,
(35:38):
he ain't playing different. Yeah, it's a whole difference. It's
another level that was to it. And you get that
level you own. I took that, put it in my
little belt. Yeah. I mean I already had a work ethic,
but that right there, because you know, you go hang
out after the game, put the flip flops on coach team,
(36:00):
minutes were done. Now we're getting this work. Yeah, And
that was it for eighty two games. That's what you
had to do. Mm hmm, yeah, or baddy or be
hurt grandfather in the building. And you already know. We
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no safe like simply Safe. Who is some of the
hardest players you have to guard in the league? Man, Gosh, Jesus,
man Ai chasing that dude? Oh Jesus, yeah, yeah, because
he wasn't a point guard. I kept looking at the
coach like, why you got me on him? You know,
(37:40):
I'm not the littlest on the floor. Why you got
me on Chuck?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
You know your size and your quickness.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
And I was just so confused, man, because I'm not
really a defensive player, you know, But why you got
me on Chuck? You know? He moving fast, He coming
on five screens, then he get the ball. He got
you on an island. Oh Lord? And Reggie Miller mm hmm,
going off them screens. Oh man, the walls, the break
wall of China. He had Dale Davis, him and the key.
(38:09):
They didn't like the Shoty passed back and come off
three more and they they all scream. Man them legal screams.
Is happening. You get to knee, the shoulder, the elbow
around to give you the butt. Yeah, man calls whatever
they do these days.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
But yeah, that girl that yeah, you know, oh man,
that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Then getting to go to Minnesota was cold.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Oh man, it's freezing. It was we got the way. Yeah,
you got to walk away, surprise trader. You knew it
was gonna happen. Uh what was Minnesota? No, No, that's
when I wanted to Uh. They Boston was kind of
falling over. So yeah, they games doing all this stuff,
and they everybody, everybody traded you out. Yeah, just he
(39:15):
traded everybody. And I was like, you know, I'm gonna
just go play with KG. See what that do? M
And then we started going to war the same thing.
You know, half these teams, the gms and the presidents,
they just they're confusing. I don't know what they you know,
they be changing teams this year, trying not to change
(39:36):
the team, win the championship, get rid of some guys.
It's just confusing on what they be wanting, you know.
But uh, but it was cool. I went down there
with KG balling.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
That was good. That was a good experience learned that
that work ethic that dog Bro tell me about that
that epic dunk contest was Vince called man that you
bring to the light round the dunk content. Man, what's
c TV? That was it? That was that was the
start of it, right there, boy, and and Vince. Man,
(40:07):
it was I was sacking after Vince. It was Jerry
Stackhouse right after and me right after that. The crowd
was still cheering for Vince.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Dang, yeah, man, like it's still rocking.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I'm still cheering, like, yeah, let me calm down, Jesus.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, man, But that was it. That was a good
part of that.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Man. To be part of that epic dunk contest, you know,
one of the best.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
So I always thought, Man, I'm dunk contest.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It take a good level of focus.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Bro. You got a figure, Bro, the weekend when you
go to Allstar, we probably hitting the party appearances or whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You hitting the parties.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Then you got to be focused on this technique to
go out here to get these folks to get there.
Ain't no warm up. Then you can't go out and
warm up your dunk that you really want to do.
You know, the arena cold, you know, because you're playing
on the ice, you know. Yeah, so it's it's hard.
You see where it's sat now though, right yeah, the
dunk contest Now we're putting YouTube players in the game.
(41:07):
Oh yeah, they're doing for real. I mean what it's
bad when you got the G League guy coming up
to win the dunk contest, that's bad, dude. It looks
like for him skateboarder, Bro. He dunking the hell at
the ball? What's Matt mcneck man like a skateboarder, Bro.
He'll jump over your cop for for what I said. Man,
(41:32):
But we got the NBA going, Bro, we should have
players they got ready to do that.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Take to fix that. That's what I'm acing, man, I
have no idea. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I don't want to at the bank, Bro, they don't
want to do get it out of the bank, Broy.
It just same for everybody, I guess. And Magic Zion
getting joint crazy. That's what they want to That's it
right there. Put John in there, put Zion. Oh yeah,
mm hmmm, that's what we want to see. Everybody's scared
(42:04):
of losing these days. A lot of people say it
is they want to see that a little bit. Yeah
they started yeah, yeah to stop. Yeah, yeah, he ain't never. Yeah,
well you know, Lebrin got a lot of dunks. Yeah,
out the mud. You might just win just by doing anything. Yeah, yeah,
(42:28):
they got to.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
When you.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Experience was good. It wasn't bad. It was it wasn't bad.
I think it could have been better, you know, but
the G League and all that stuff and d Lee
was just starting. But I think it's it's not bad
guys getting an opportunity, but I think they kind of
trapped the guys a little bit for me, don't don't
(42:54):
pay them enough, don't let them get out the contracts enough,
and it's kept real politickets just go almost harder to
getting the G League than it is the NBA these days,
which don't make no sense. But I think it's a
good platform for the guys to have something like that,
you know, to be able to have that access, to
(43:16):
be able to try to get up to that next
level of the NBA. But my experience was good. I
got to meet a lot of young guys, uh there,
you know, I still talk to this day. So it
was good. That's when that's when I realized I wanted
to coach being in the G League, because that's why
I was doing most of the time anyway out there
on the floor coaching those guys and putting them in
(43:37):
the right spots and realize when when when I like
to coach. Yeah, we read about those matches between you
and Kobe and lay about those workouts were in those
run Oh yeah, man, that was that was the battle.
You know them U c l A runs man show.
That was it. Man.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
They still going to these days.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Uh, you know, but the battle or you know, going
at Kobe every summer, you know, that was it. You
know when he came in that gym, you know you
had to be ready. And you know I was going
at the gym's every summer. You know, like whoever came
in there, I was on them. So you know, to
see Cob coming there and go at him, it was
(44:21):
it was, you know where I realized that, damn, I'm
pretty damn good. You know, I'm going at this guy
and he would the best to ever do it, and you know,
just giving him trouble, not stopping him, but just giving
him trouble and making them guard. It was a battle, man,
you know, that's that was some days. It started with magic.
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hey kill, let us know what's the Ricky Davis rule. Kim,
what the hell is the Ricky Davis rule? The rule?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, what they say, it's a Ricky Davis rule. Room
mail after you'll have to do it.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Uh you're trying to get your uh trible.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
That's the rule.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
What they do to the you can't get they get
the trouble double Now listen, list the Ricky David listen.
Just go right for reading all. Let me read it, bro.
Ricky Day refers to the unsports like essentially, shout basket.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
You didn't know this, No, this is in the question.
That's crazy. They got rules, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, they gonna get to give me my realatives on that.
Then you didn't give my life, give me the fines
for the loan? People matter, not do the Ricky days. Okay, yeah,
we need all that. You see how they do? You
tell you they need to be Ricky and Bobby. Then
(47:02):
I'll tell you so you said you you know you
were into coaching and things of that nature. Right, Yeah,
can you give rember We was in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
What was that coach name? Who was was it? Brandon?
Speaker 1 (47:13):
We was doing the top one hundred, Yeah, coach Brandon. Yeah,
And I'm telling you look, I was so having so
much fun at the camp. And it's funny that you
still inspired by just teaching the youth.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Bro. I love it, just teaching, spreading the game to
the youngest.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Love that it is.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
It's just kind of like a passion, you know.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
And when that was realized, when it going there was
the first time I realized, like, I like it. You know,
I had it's a lot of time management with it,
but I like it. Just giving back to knowledge and
now with my kids giving them back. And that's where
I kind of practiced the giving back to knowledge and
you know what they need to know, and you know,
bring them the men. It's fun for me and I like,
(47:55):
I like the younger age. You know, you can tap
into them because by the time they get teenagees and
seniors and juniors, it's too late. You know, they picked
up a lot of bad habits and you know they
don't they're doing the wrong things. So you know, it's fun. Man,
I love it. It's like you like when the game
with basketball is right now, I don't.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I don't. It's terrible.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
You got a lot of kids that know how to
work out, you know, and that's that's that's what the
game looked like. It just looked like a lot of
workout moves out there. And you know, we grew up,
were playing in the parks, we played the game. We
ain't had nobody, a lot of trainers around the people
working the crowd every day. And you know some of
these guys they don't even play, you know, they just
work out all day long. So the game is you know,
(48:40):
they losing the real concept of the game and details
of the game and you know how to take advantage
of the game and they skill set. So I don't
like where it's at, but I think eventually they come back.
You know, once guys figure out that training ain't it,
you know, because if you can't take what you're training
(49:01):
and putting it into the whole game, then why you're
training so much.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
We heard a few guys playing is the best way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Learning learned the game five and five where you you know,
we got beat up by them old wine heads at
the park. You know what I'm saying. That was cold
come and beat you up. Yeah, and that's what you
have to get on the court, you know. And when
you when you lost, it took an hour to get back.
You know what I'm saying, So, you know, that's that's
(49:32):
how we grew up, and that's where we learned that toughness.
That's where we learned the game, the game of basketball.
That's point because we had that same discussion with k
Was on the show, and you hear that all the
time from the whole generation. The game is not in
a good place. But then you can argue the players
are better in today's.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Game, more skilled, you know, they just they work out.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
They polished the moves so much that they got a
lot of workout moves. But when you put somebody on
you can you do that same stuff that they just
you know, they are they're more skilled, but they really
don't know how to play the game, you know, And
it's a big difference when you're playing five on five
and you got to come through pin downs and picks
and run this play rather than just catch the ball
(50:17):
and do this move. You know, you got to learn
the tricks of the trade and you know how to
duck in on the weak side. You know, you can't
learn that training, you know, unless you got a training
teaching in duck in, you know what I mean. So
it's it's they are more skilled, yeah, they are, you know,
but can they play? And are they tough? That's the
(50:38):
thing they say. You know, back in the day, they
can't play back in the day, and now back in
the day can't play now.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
You know what I'm saying. So that's how I look
at it.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, we get Ain't nobody looking for the mid range quick? Yeah,
that's a lost art. It's funny you say that, bro.
You know how they stick the pick and roll? Now
they go under. No, no, they switch, either they switched
or the biggest always in the back. That's pull up heaven.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Man, you're gonna like them boys.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, it's over analytically, we're saying, Ricky beat us across
the head beautiful pause.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah that one was a pause. You know what I'm saying.
And I'm gonna beat them every time.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Yeah, that's a good knife for the beauty thing. That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
That's an easy bucket as a defender.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Though. If I'm sticking you, bro, and and we're giving
you that, I'm upset we're giving them naturally you're gonna
go over come on. I'm you know I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'm fortunately you left there. You got it.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
I gotta I gotta look they got a big, tell
a big you can stay the drop. Yeah, but when
he come back right boy left. You know what I'm saying,
that's what they couldn't do. I mean to go excellent,
it's there. But talk to us about the Ricky Davis Foundation. Man, yeah,
fees your health sections.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Foundation been going for about twenty some years. I started
the first year my my my career, and it's just
been going every year. But now, you know, me as
a player, didn't really know how to run foundation stuff
and what it was all about and the power in it.
But you know, now learning how to run it and
(52:46):
got my family set up and me and my brother
and my mom's and my wife, we've been running it
strategically and getting sponsors and the city and the mayor's
and everybody. You know how a foundation supposed to be run.
So just being able to get back and help people,
it's always been the passion. But you know, we started
(53:09):
something in COVID that everybody was doing challenges, push up challenges,
car challenges. So me and my brother were sitting there
one day like, man, let's start a challenge and it's
gonna be a Fejia City Challenge and what it is
is basically taking celebrities and influencers and getting them to
buy into it and we come out and feed your city.
(53:31):
And it was during COVID, so we was giving away ppe.
I mean, the whole city was shut down and we
ended up feeding about five hundred thousand people. Man, I
mean it was ten thousand people per state. Yeah. Man,
it was an amazing thing and we got to see
a lot of people who needed help and all the stuff.
But a lot of celebrities stepped in and you know,
(53:52):
fed the city and accepted the challenges.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
So it was good.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
And we've just been running it ever since and keeping
it going and doing homeless stuff, doing all kinds of
stuff to just you know, get back when we came. Man.
You know, so when retirement came, was that that was
how you just ventured into that?
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Or was yeah, how I ventured into it all the way?
Speaker 1 (54:10):
It was because it just kind of you know, life
after ball man, that stuff rough. You know, not having
the knowledge and the toolage that you got, you.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Know, to find out on your own. It's rough.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
So you know, we should start building on the foundation
and doing all kinds of stuff, trying to build the
brand and doing all kind of stuff and found out
the power and the foundation and how I could take
care of the whole family and build it up and
create that legacy. And that's why we call the Regadators
Legacy Foundation. Be able to help others help themselves, and
that's what it created. So it's a it's a good
(54:44):
tool for the kids and homeless people. And we do
a lot of homeless stuff, homeless drives and all kind of.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Food initiatives with the food desert food deserts and.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
All kind of stuff. So heavy in the community. Yeah,
heavy in the community. Man, m yeall was heavy too,
uh with them braids in the head man said that
was it? Yeah, I started. It's gone. I wish I
had it up. No, but yeah, starting that whole swag
(55:15):
man with the braids and the head band. I said,
we was before our time, washing and show the belt
buckles and we was out there getting it. Thinking about
that fashion now and today it's scary starting to come
back around a little bit. But it was showing me
for a minute it was tight. Yeah, well I tried
(55:39):
it a few times skinny jeans, but while it was poking.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Out and yeah, no, man's coming back around.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Man, but yeah, man, it's it's fun. Man. Who gave
you the name tricky Ricky? Man, I don't know where
I got tricky from. Man. I think I just went
from slick rick to tricky Ricky. I don't know if
that was Jay Hart. I don't know where I got
(56:09):
trick from.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
It just Man, that's trick Jelannie McCoy. Yeah yeah, women
you was was you was in the Clippers with BD
and uh huh bo oh yeah yeah yeah, crazy Stirling
over there? Yeah nuts.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
Who you like? Who you like in the league right now?
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Man? I like that boy with that mid range game
like that. Yeah, that boy nice.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
I like a few people in there. They holler Burke
before balling, uh Mitchell. I like the trade when he
went from there to Cleveland kind of yeah, you got
to do what he wanted a little bit.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Seemed like open it up for him. But yeah, that
some young killers.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
And I've been watching in the game. We could to
see what he's gonna be like next year though, you know,
coming out of the injury.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
I don't think he's coming back. I think he's coming
back this year.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
I mean, you get hurt that late year, maybe halfway
the whole season. I think so, I think so. I mean,
don't be back though he's gonna bounce back for show.
He was a problem and there he was a whole problem.
And I'm talking about his whole game was just set up.
It's either I'm easy, go down, hit you with it
(57:30):
late or pulling three. I'm getting somebody involved, that's it.
And when he went down, it was over. Rick Carlin coach.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
That's interesting with Hallibird. Yeah, you can play what the helly?
What the boy got the whole song out there, don't he?
Speaker 1 (57:45):
Yeah? Boy creating it. Bro, what's the hardest match up
you had to face? Man? Something? This food right here?
Birth this food all time time going to gainst him.
We knew what time it was when I was on. Yeah,
we played against each other. And then hold on, wait, man,
(58:07):
what what you mean off saying.
Speaker 6 (58:15):
All day that boy played without the ball? Boy the
question because you know I'm slipping, you know I'm cheating
it over there. Man, Man, I'm trying to Oh man,
we're telling that straight trick.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Hey sold that trick, right, He going through it this week?
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Right? He killing killing but he like there they keep
taking me out the game. I got I got eighteen.
I'm trying to get this done right. So this whole
week they just man, it was like bro doing so
(58:57):
we had get in the game. Second he on the
staked unit, but he six man, he shooting six years.
So the game they we end up coming back Tricky
over there, I'm getting on storm, don't starve every shot
(59:19):
I shoot feel heavy than the month. But he talking
about don't stop me. I'm like trying to get back.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
In the game, to get back here.
Speaker 7 (59:29):
I can't over there right there as a rookie, I'm
already you know, I might take some rids back to
the crib with him the bush with the minutes that
I need to be playing more than I was understanding
the business through that though, Like when contract year come
that that's when I learned all they'll play.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
With your mini. You know what I'm saying, contract You
knowee what I'm saying, don't we don't want we want
you to kill, but we don't want you to kill
that much. Yeah, he trying to get the choice.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I learned that around you don't kill.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
It ain't gonna You always had careers, but you always
was in that more fucker just tricky Ricky Man, they're
trying to go get it. And that was that was
the politics of the basketball. Man, that I had to
learn what it was all about, you know, because I'm
so amped up about the game and you get in
(01:00:23):
your own thing about the game.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
But it's a game inside the game.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
You know that you had to learn. And I'm glad
I learned it at a late age, but you know,
that's what I'm good teach kids about it. Man, you
show you know, you definitely out the mud man. You know,
we're here to give your flowers. Me and and you
had a hell of a career. Man. Always was a
competitor and always was a real one, always out the mud.
(01:00:48):
Appreciate that. We appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Yes, sir, thanks for having me boy shut love
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