It was a great time to be a Memphis Grizzlies fan during the Grit and Grind era and Zach and Tony talk about it
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We made history. And I want you to bring this
up to Killers because we was looking for the Spurs.
We were were we not looking for the Spurs that year?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We wanted the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
What we did end of the season to stap that
right quick for we're looking for him?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We lost? We did game.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
We lost two games to get the Spurs. We knew
we could match up. We could have got the sixth seed. Yeah,
we lost two games on purpose. We get we matched
up so good with him. So it's like, Okay, during
the season, I think what we won? What two games?
We played them three times a year or so we
might have two games or something. But now we had
(00:40):
that motherfucking confidence, like, come on, man, whoever were ready?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That was gangster? Good time out the mud in the
grind house?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Did you did so?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And it's crazy because simply, you know what I'm saying,
us losing two games purposely. You know what I'm saying
a lot of people don't know that we lost purposely
just to get up with the you know san antoin Spurgs.
I mean I was looking at that Genobli matchup, like, yo,
some want to do this your ro. I'm standing on
(01:14):
that eu ro it's clear out with a pick and
roll if he don't got nothing, like I was on
top of that. On the strength of film man, we
picked those people. But how was that match up with
you and Tim Duncan, considering the fact we lost on
purpose just to get that match up, was you exciting
for that matchup or like how that went?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well? Yeah, I'm excited for any matchup.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
But you know, shot the Tim Hall of Famer, Hall
of Famer, one of the best, one of the one
of the best to ever do it, you know what
I mean, one of the hardest, Like I said, him
and Ticket probably the hardest two players I ever had
to guard my career, So I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So when we got the Spurs, like you said, we
just matched up with him, you know what I mean, Like,
we just you know, we dog so we really ain't
giving the fuck, but we knew that we cashed up
with with the Spurs the best. So getting that, you know,
I know, I got to be on my a game.
You know, I know Tim was, you know, getting on
in his career. I know, pop Wan, but Noah, we
(02:13):
we had the business man and our confidence was through
the roof.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Bro. You gotta think that season. We wanted what twenty
more ships? Eight seed?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean right there, guys are still coming to their
own and everybody confidence Mike Young, Mark Young, you know
we more younger, and you know he was ready. You
know what I mean. It came through ship with their confidence. Now,
you're right. Confidence was key and I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm I want to give him as I was right
now and this is out the Mud podcast. Man my boy,
Shane Battier, Man, Well, he taught me some defensively. He
went off percentages. Dog, you know what I'm saying. I
went off of just looking at film. He looked at
a stat sheet and looked at percentages and defended guys
(02:58):
off of percentage. Okay, you shoot thirty percent going left,
you shoot eighty percent going right on your pullups, ninety
percent on your drafts going right, you forty percent on
your draves going left, you twenty percent on your floaters.
He defended players off percentages. So when it looked like
I'm giving them a shot, I'm giving them a shot
(03:19):
only because I read the percentage of analytics he was.
He was farther of analytics. So big shot out to
Shane Battier and I thought he was real instrumental in
us getting that win.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
He has some big shots.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Shame, some big shots shot to shame man, and.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He defended you know what I'm saying, Mono Janobli. He
defended Tony Parker in key moments what we had to
switch up. So I learned a lot from him, man,
and specifically that year when we actually, you know, I
lost the games. You know, Coach Hollins came to us like, Yo,
I like our matchup with the Spurs. You know, we
(03:55):
get anybody else. You know, it's going to be a
dog fight. But I clearly see y'all beating these guys
in the four to two series, And I was like, damn,
like you right, coach, because I was looking back, like
we smoked, they ask this shit. And so for us
to execute that, man and actually bring in more fans,
(04:16):
bringing people to feeling like, Yo, we got a chance, man,
Memphis got behind us. Man, because no, I ain't gonna
even lie bro coming here, bro, I remember coming in here, man,
And that's like previous to that playoff run. I just
remember us coming in here bro it being no fans.
I remember coming here being we played the Lakers it's
(04:37):
more Laker fans here than it is Memphis fans. I
remember coming here being more Lebron fans than it is
Memphis fans. And for us to change that narrative and Man,
GRI's nation, get behind one hundred and ten percent of
our grind, bro and keep the movement going. Bro. I
just I just think that season was, you know, solidified.
(04:58):
You know what the really makes this the groundhouse, man,
and I really appreciate that year specifically.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Man, what that was like?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Man, we won our first series, Bro, when we beat
the Spurs and number one seed.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Man, that shit was phenomenal. If you ask me, Man,
you know all I can remember from that series, Man,
you doing that jam jab jab jam jam fatal way shot,
you understanding to get us what we need to be. Man,
I'm twenty five fifteen series. Man, you may make make
Dice retire. Bro, Like I looked up. I said, damn
(05:32):
next year, make Dice retired. It was because of you, Bro,
I'm talking about simply. You carried us through that whole series.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And if I couldn't pinpoint anything, Man, all I can
remember is Coach Popovich looking back saying them Memphis Grizzes
will never beat me again. You get know what I'm saying,
And it was all because of you, homie, and just
your work ethic, the way you grind, the way you
approach the game. Bro. You had the whole city following
(06:03):
mac Bow. You feel what I'm saying. And I looked
at that like, damn, this ship everything I envis when
I first signed the contract. I'm looking at that like
like boat was really see us about seeing you in
that motherfucking sweet over there saying, Bro, We're gonna make
some noise this year. So it all made sense both.
So it's like, damn, bro, we just beat the number
(06:26):
one seed. Is the ac we purposely lost on purpose,
just to get to that number one, to get to
that number one seed and just to move on to
you know, just understand that what happened when we first
left them folks and we beat them. You know, all
I can remember is having a good time, straight up celebrated.
(06:46):
But you just tell me about like how it felt
for you man, just winning our first series and.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That shit felt good cole On, like you said, just
one of my that was my first series ever I won,
So you know, you a champion. So I know you
it wasn't for you, But for me, it was a
different because I never been in this position, you.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Know what I mean. Come here, I got the city
behind me.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I'm the old from the vet, the young guys looking
up to me, so I had to handle the business.
So coming out here playing that final home game against
the Spurs, in the last game of the series where
we could win it.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Man, I came out of game my best man. I remember,
I remember mc dice bro it fucking me up.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, Dice strong with the motherfuck shot up my
boy Tony on mc dice, man but strong, and we battled.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know, he kept elbowing me. You know, it's a
different NBA. It's the old NBA. Duncan giving me shots.
So you know I'm playing physical. Man, we balance, you know,
I could know. All I know, man, is you know
I was. I was gonna say, Man, they gonna they gonna,
god damn, at the end of the game, they gonna
we lose or win, They're gonna have to drag me
off the court.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Because I'm gonna be tired, man.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And I just left it all out there on the court, man.
And that was probably one of the greatest moments, like
just seeing winning that first series, bro, and seeing the
crowd and that energy.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
That ship gave me goose bumps. Brouh And I remember
the last shot I hit. I think it put us up.
Him duncle was guarding right and on the right and
the clock going out, bro, and I'm like, Ship, I'm
trying to.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Pass it, but duncan like you trying to pass because
I was open on the cut.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well you know I'm gonna get you on the cut.
But that time of the game, Broay, but I'm in
the motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I'm right here to three.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Tim Dunky, he like, shoot that motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I'm like, yeah, now shot there three hit that motherfucker
squashed for hitting.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Nothing but bottom on the face.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Sid, Yeah, that motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Really that wasp that put us up. That was it.
That was that was a stick to forking right there. Shot.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So man, after that, man, just you know, we we
celebrated and our confidence we knew wasn't over with, but
our comfortence was so high. You know, we had some
dogs the next round, but our confidence, our confidence was
so high, and beat the number one seed.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He couldn't tell us we.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Wasn't gonna run through the through the NBA playoffs because
in my mind, that's that's what my mentality and confidence was.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
But man, we're about to funk over everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
We just beat one of the best coaches ever to
ever coach the game, when best players, best power forced
every play the game.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Man, what's up.
We made history. And I want you to bring this
up to Killers because we was looking for the Spurs.
We were were we not looking for the Spurs that year?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We wanted the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
What we did end of the season to stap that
right quick for we're looking for him?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We lost? We did game.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
We lost two games to get the Spurs. We knew
we could match up. We could have got the sixth seed. Yeah,
we lost two games on purpose. We get we matched
up so good with him. So it's like, Okay, during
the season, I think what we won? What two games?
We played them three times a year or so we
might have two games or something. But now we had
(00:40):
that motherfucking confidence, like, come on, man, whoever were ready?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That was gangster? Good time out the mud in the
grind house?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Did you did so?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And it's crazy because simply, you know what I'm saying,
us losing two games purposely. You know what I'm saying
a lot of people don't know that we lost purposely
just to get up with the you know san antoin Spurgs.
I mean I was looking at that Genobli matchup, like, yo,
some want to do this your ro. I'm standing on
(01:14):
that eu ro it's clear out with a pick and
roll if he don't got nothing, like I was on
top of that. On the strength of film man, we
picked those people. But how was that match up with
you and Tim Duncan, considering the fact we lost on
purpose just to get that match up, was you exciting
for that matchup or like how that went?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well? Yeah, I'm excited for any matchup.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
But you know, shot the Tim Hall of Famer, Hall
of Famer, one of the best, one of the one
of the best to ever do it, you know what
I mean, one of the hardest, Like I said, him
and Ticket probably the hardest two players I ever had
to guard my career, So I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So when we got the Spurs, like you said, we
just matched up with him, you know what I mean, Like,
we just you know, we dog so we really ain't
giving the fuck, but we knew that we cashed up
with with the Spurs the best. So getting that, you know,
I know, I got to be on my a game.
You know, I know Tim was, you know, getting on
in his career. I know, pop Wan, but Noah, we
(02:13):
we had the business man and our confidence was through
the roof.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Bro. You gotta think that season. We wanted what twenty
more ships? Eight seed?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean right there, guys are still coming to their
own and everybody confidence Mike Young, Mark Young, you know
we more younger, and you know he was ready. You
know what I mean. It came through ship with their confidence. Now,
you're right. Confidence was key and I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm I want to give him as I was right
now and this is out the Mud podcast. Man my boy,
Shane Battier, Man, Well, he taught me some defensively. He
went off percentages. Dog, you know what I'm saying. I
went off of just looking at film. He looked at
a stat sheet and looked at percentages and defended guys
(02:58):
off of percentage. Okay, you shoot thirty percent going left,
you shoot eighty percent going right on your pullups, ninety
percent on your drafts going right, you forty percent on
your draves going left, you twenty percent on your floaters.
He defended players off percentages. So when it looked like
I'm giving them a shot, I'm giving them a shot
(03:19):
only because I read the percentage of analytics he was.
He was farther of analytics. So big shot out to
Shane Battier and I thought he was real instrumental in
us getting that win.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
He has some big shots.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Shame, some big shots shot to shame man, and.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He defended you know what I'm saying, Mono Janobli. He
defended Tony Parker in key moments what we had to
switch up. So I learned a lot from him, man,
and specifically that year when we actually, you know, I
lost the games. You know, Coach Hollins came to us like, Yo,
I like our matchup with the Spurs. You know, we
(03:55):
get anybody else. You know, it's going to be a
dog fight. But I clearly see y'all beating these guys
in the four to two series, And I was like, damn,
like you right, coach, because I was looking back, like
we smoked, they ask this shit. And so for us
to execute that, man and actually bring in more fans,
(04:16):
bringing people to feeling like, Yo, we got a chance, man,
Memphis got behind us. Man, because no, I ain't gonna
even lie bro coming here, bro, I remember coming in here, man,
And that's like previous to that playoff run. I just
remember us coming in here bro it being no fans.
I remember coming here being we played the Lakers it's
(04:37):
more Laker fans here than it is Memphis fans. I
remember coming here being more Lebron fans than it is
Memphis fans. And for us to change that narrative and Man,
GRI's nation, get behind one hundred and ten percent of
our grind, bro and keep the movement going. Bro. I
just I just think that season was, you know, solidified.
(04:58):
You know what the really makes this the groundhouse, man,
and I really appreciate that year specifically.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Man, what that was like?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Man, we won our first series, Bro, when we beat
the Spurs and number one seed.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Man, that shit was phenomenal. If you ask me, Man,
you know all I can remember from that series, Man,
you doing that jam jab jab jam jam fatal way shot,
you understanding to get us what we need to be. Man,
I'm twenty five fifteen series. Man, you may make make
Dice retire. Bro, Like I looked up. I said, damn
(05:32):
next year, make Dice retired. It was because of you, Bro,
I'm talking about simply. You carried us through that whole series.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And if I couldn't pinpoint anything, Man, all I can
remember is Coach Popovich looking back saying them Memphis Grizzes
will never beat me again. You get know what I'm saying,
And it was all because of you, homie, and just
your work ethic, the way you grind, the way you
approach the game. Bro. You had the whole city following
(06:03):
mac Bow. You feel what I'm saying. And I looked
at that like, damn, this ship everything I envis when
I first signed the contract. I'm looking at that like
like boat was really see us about seeing you in
that motherfucking sweet over there saying, Bro, We're gonna make
some noise this year. So it all made sense both.
So it's like, damn, bro, we just beat the number
(06:26):
one seed. Is the ac we purposely lost on purpose,
just to get to that number one, to get to
that number one seed and just to move on to
you know, just understand that what happened when we first
left them folks and we beat them. You know, all
I can remember is having a good time, straight up celebrated.
(06:46):
But you just tell me about like how it felt
for you man, just winning our first series and.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That shit felt good cole On, like you said, just
one of my that was my first series ever I won,
So you know, you a champion. So I know you
it wasn't for you, But for me, it was a
different because I never been in this position, you.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Know what I mean. Come here, I got the city
behind me.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I'm the old from the vet, the young guys looking
up to me, so I had to handle the business.
So coming out here playing that final home game against
the Spurs, in the last game of the series where
we could win it.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Man, I came out of game my best man. I remember,
I remember mc dice bro it fucking me up.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, Dice strong with the motherfuck shot up my
boy Tony on mc dice, man but strong, and we battled.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know, he kept elbowing me. You know, it's a
different NBA. It's the old NBA. Duncan giving me shots.
So you know I'm playing physical. Man, we balance, you know,
I could know. All I know, man, is you know
I was. I was gonna say, Man, they gonna they gonna,
god damn, at the end of the game, they gonna
we lose or win, They're gonna have to drag me
off the court.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Because I'm gonna be tired, man.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And I just left it all out there on the court, man.
And that was probably one of the greatest moments, like
just seeing winning that first series, bro, and seeing the
crowd and that energy.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
That ship gave me goose bumps. Brouh And I remember
the last shot I hit. I think it put us up.
Him duncle was guarding right and on the right and
the clock going out, bro, and I'm like, Ship, I'm
trying to.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Pass it, but duncan like you trying to pass because
I was open on the cut.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well you know I'm gonna get you on the cut.
But that time of the game, Broay, but I'm in
the motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I'm right here to three.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Tim Dunky, he like, shoot that motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I'm like, yeah, now shot there three hit that motherfucker
squashed for hitting.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Nothing but bottom on the face.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Sid, Yeah, that motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Really that wasp that put us up. That was it.
That was that was a stick to forking right there. Shot.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So man, after that, man, just you know, we we
celebrated and our confidence we knew wasn't over with, but
our comfortence was so high. You know, we had some
dogs the next round, but our confidence, our confidence was
so high, and beat the number one seed.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He couldn't tell us we.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Wasn't gonna run through the through the NBA playoffs because
in my mind, that's that's what my mentality and confidence was.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
But man, we're about to funk over everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
We just beat one of the best coaches ever to
ever coach the game, when best players, best power forced
every play the game.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Man, what's up.
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