January 23, 2024 • 23 mins
Celebrating the 40th anniversary of Hulkamania by going over our favorite moments of Hulk Hogan's wrestling career, Rich's Ravens v Chiefs 6-leg same game parlay and Mahomes driven teaser courtesy of DraftKings Sportsbook, after Tyler Bass's missed field goal, fans are creating a positive spin, so we go over other athlete fails we wish could have gotten the Tyler Bass treatment
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome to over Promised, our bonus pot brought to you
by DraftKings Sportsbook. I'm Covino. That is Rich from Fox
Sports Radio from Union, New Jersey. From Franklin Square, Long Island.
We joined forces like sports Voltrons o form this show
along with Spot along with you. Thanks for being here.
Hope you're having a great week so far. This is
the stuff we couldn't get to on the show. I
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have a parlay, don't fail. I have a teaser. Oh sweet,
forty nine ers like life found this. That's when you
know you got a good wife when she's like I
saw a throwback Niner shirt.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I got it for you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Nineteen eighty nine, this is the year Montana had the
drive to win the Super Bowl. So hopefully I have
the same faith this year with Brock Berdy.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We're also gonna get to players who blew it but
wish they got that Tyler Bess sort of treatment. If
you don't know what we're talking about, we'll explain. But
today mark's a very special anniversary. As I hold my
little Hulk Comania action figure here, a little funk copop.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
What you're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Forty years ago? Today we're taking it back.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
January twenty third, nineteen eighty four, the place Madison Square Garden,
Hull Cogan pins the iron cheek and you hear Howard
Finkel Oh no WWF at the time world Champion hul
Cogan and the rest is history. Billion dollar industry we
saw just before that. Netflix now owns Monday Night Raw
(01:54):
for the next ten years for five billion dollars. So
to say that wrestling didn't really start until Hull Cogan
would be crazy. It didn't until until the Hulkster.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Was the guy. It was like just old dudes grappling.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It changed everything. Yeah, we lived in a time where
we weren't even sure if it.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Was real or fake.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I remember being a little kid asking my parents, but
knowing that my parents didn't even know the answer, like
they didn't even all knew at the time. Before all
the fun gimmicks like Jake the Snake and Macho Man
and Million Dollar Man, before all that, it was like
Bruno San Martino fighting Ivan Putski.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's just two old dudes grapple it. So on this day,
Holgan changed history.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well today, as they say, is the day Hulkamania was born,
which changed it all. So if you want to you
started saying your prayers, meeting your well, first of all,
I think you had this as well. Did you have
the Hull Cogan workout set first and first mostlam made.
That's my first true workout before going to the gym
with you after Fox Sports. Yes, I had those little
blue weights, Iran. The hand grips, yeah, I have those.
(02:56):
That's why my forearms are so.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Ripped till this day. And it's funny you bring this up.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's why you were ripping doubles in the gap, right,
I had the arm strength. I was saying my prayers,
eat writing his little wholk of maniac. The toys were
everything back then too, right, the wrestling figures, the thumb wrestlers.
But there's also a few other storylines in the news today. Again,
you already mentioned that they signed a deal ten year
deal for five billion raw on Netflix. That's great, that's huge.
(03:23):
And The Rock also joined the WWE board with TKO
and he now as of today, has ownership of his
name The Rock, so exclusive rights to the name moving forward,
and all this not possible, not possible.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
If not for the Holkster Brother. What you're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So I want to take a look back at some
of your favorite Hogan moments, some of our favorite ones,
in no particular order. You'd have to say that today's
is probably the biggest because it changed everything. Yeah, without
a doubt, when he pinned the iron cheek, it was
like good guy, bad guy.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
This McMahon was like, oh shit, we got something to him.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
By the way, this is when it was okay to
lean into those stereotypes a much different times, right, So
we were all yeah, and he became a hero. But
I think the one that people think of along with
this one is when he slammed body slammed Andre the Giant. Well,
you know, looking back, it was wrestling and we were like, wait,
you're telling me ninety thousand people were in the Silver
(04:21):
Dome watching this happen. Amazing slamming the five hundred foot
pump sid five hundred pound giants. It was a big
deal back then. Man might as well have been five hundred feet.
I was gonna say, as a little kid watching that,
that's how you felt like Andre the Giant. No way
the Hulkster could body slam this guy, and he did,
and we.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
All remember it. Something I remember too, Rich.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I wasn't as crazy of a wrestling fanatic as you were,
but I remember all the hype. There was so much
hype about Hulk Holgan the wrestler now becoming a movie star.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
This star in no Hols Bar.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
This movie was so shitty it was, but what it
did was, well, that's him as a thu the reps
in Rocky three, which by the way, is a another
great appearance by the Holkster.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You know what, why not whole Cogan was it rights?
He didn't have the rights to hell E. Vince was
like Stallone was like I'm making thunderlips absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I mean that's a good one spot, but I'm thinking
this piece of junk movie. But you know what it did, though,
you could say it was shitty and Zeus tiny, Zeus Lister.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It wasn't a good movie.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
But what it did was it paved the way for
the Rock and John Cena and Stone Cold and Bautista
and a lot of these guys to actually say, maybe
I could be.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
An actor too.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I just remember so much promotion, so much hype went
into it. The movie was lackluster, like you said.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But they've brought Zeus so ww. He doesn't say Zeus
became a household name.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And you really, as a kid, you were like, this,
dude's scary, right, so you were way into that rich
I know something else that you were way into and wo.
It was high school for me. And I remember thinking,
we're sort of tired of Hogan being the good guy.
He pulls the old switcheroo, turns heel whoa bruh, get.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It for the money?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I don't like you kids, and everyone's throwing water bottles
and popcorn at him.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Hogan becoming a villain gave him a whole second life,
a whole second life. They ran with that gimmick.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
He was dying his beard and he was the bad guy,
and everybody bought into it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It was great how did he not do it just
for men? Commercial? Would that beer? He should have been
on the box failed opportunity?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Now absolutely, if you're a wrestling fan like I was
of the eighties, I think one of the funniest moments
was because Hogan couldn't lose back then, right, If he lost,
it had to be because someone was cheating. He'd half
back guys and dropped a big legup. Do you remember
the twin refs, the Hebner brothers and one of them
was bought out by the million Dollar Man, and Hogan's.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Like, which ones are your brother? Who are you brother?
Like this this.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Ship was the funniest thing to me because the only
way in the mid eighties Hogan could lose is if
there were twin referees that cheated. Yep, because he was
unbeatable until until when they got Ultimate.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Eleven.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Twelve year old little me. Yeah, I'll admit it. Now,
I might have shed a tear, might have when the
put money on it that you did when the Ultimate
Warrior beat the Hulkster, I was like, this can't be.
What was the over under on richest tears, This can't be.
By the way that moment lives in meme form that is,
wait to say, what's the going on there?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Making back? This is a little questionable. Maybe the Halkster
did win? What is going on? My goodness?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, anyway, WrestleMania six was probably the most watched thing
when we were kids. Right, Hogan lost to the Ultimate
Warrior fair and I remember though Ultimate Warrior was the
greatest intercontinental champion of all time, he was no schlub.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
This guy was shredded.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So we were buying into The Ultimate Warrior two at
that time. But these are the moments that stand out
to us on this very special day. Me personally, We've
had the honor of interviewing the Hawkster a few times.
I'll never forget one of the first times we interviewed him,
seeing as they seemed like twenty six inch pythons, and
he tapped me on the bean bag and he.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Said, all right, brother, we gotta fit my arms into
this picture. His arm, You guys go nuts to butts.
Look at his arm compared to me. Look at this.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Look how big this dude is bigger than Rich's entire
Torso look at that.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Hey, nuts to bus, brother, we gotta fit it in.
Shout out. Look how he squoshes us in there. Shout
out to the Holkster brother.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Congratulations on a stellar career and for changing all of
our lives. Really, even the casual wrestling fan had the
toys or was impacted in some way by rest, no doubt.
And it's forty years today, so Phil old Jet forty
years ago today, the birth of Holka Mania. Now let's
turn our attention to DraftKings, because this weekend, here's what
(08:42):
we're gonna do. We do two over promised a week right.
This week we're doing Tuesday and Thursday. Today I'm breaking
down the AFC. We'll worry about the Niners Lions on Thursday.
Let's start with what I'm calling what should I call this?
Mahomes won't keept blown out in the playoffs teaser?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Little wordy, but I'll roll with it. A little wordy,
little wordy. I uh yeah, yeah, you know what I'll
call this.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I'll call this Mahomes does not get blown out in
the postseason teaser.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Wordy, but we'll go with it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Okay, it's a seven point teaser, so you're wagering a
little more one forty to win one hundred. But I
love the Chiefs getting ten and a half because I'm
convinced that they could very well win this game, and
I think they're both going to score, so score, Uh,
they're kind of score. So I look at this and say,
go over thirty seven and a half. Take it from
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forty four and a half down to thirty seven and
a half, and take the over, and then go from
three and a half to ten and a half on
a seven point tease. Again, you're wagering a little more,
and people hate these sucker bets, but this is a
game that's so unpredictable to me. But the one thing
I feel confident in is that the Chiefs will not
get blown out by double digits Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs.
As I'm calling it, the Mahomes does not get blown
(09:56):
out in the postseason teaser.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean, wordy but effective.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You underestimated him last week and it was a part
of me and a part of everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Is like, you know what, He's still Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, still the Chiefs. You're seeing some of that magic
come back. I don't see any blow out either. And listen,
this could be Lamar's year MVP. He could go on
to win the super Bowl, but Mahomes, unlike the Ultimate Warrior,
will not go down easy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
He but it seems like Mahomes is Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Can you see him in the playoffs losing by twenty
or soing, No, I just don't see it. They'll find
even if they lose, it'll be a valiant effort by
Patrick Mahomes, Kelsey and that Chiefs team Andy Reid will
not get out coached that much. So I like, I'm sorry,
stop the holkster's distracting me. Is he in pain or
in total bliss?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right there? Figure that out?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That is not spot Get rid of that. So yeah,
plus ten and a half over thirty seven and a half.
That's the Mahomes does not get blown out postseason teaser.
I'm with you. I'd be had a character to see
him blown out like that. Now this one my worthy
as well. I'm calling this my this time, I'll hit
all six legs of my same game parlay parlay. All right,
(11:08):
So these are six things that need to happen that
damn I feel like they will. And this is plus
two thousand. So you bet one hundred, bet a hondo, Yeah,
win two grand? Hey, you bet you know fifty bucks,
win a thousand things to happen. Yeah, tough, but not impossible.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
As you know.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Listen, I'm not the only one, and you know, bet
at your own risk. I'm not telling you what to
do fun, but I can't tell you how many people
are with me and saying well, yeah, dummy, everyone hits
five out of six. Like the last couple of weeks,
as you've been watching the playoff games with me, every game,
I'm like, oh, I just needed this, got to get
eight more yards and I want to hit a six
for six.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
This is the week, all right, this is the week.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So write these down play along at home if you want.
Lamar Jackson anytime touchdown, Lamar Jackson over sixty three and
a half yards rushing. He's been averaging more than that
in the postivon, So Lamar Jackson over sixty three yards
rushing and any time touchdown in the game, guarantee. Isaiah
(12:07):
Pacheco anytime touchdown in the game, guarante the way he's playing,
the way they're giving him the ball, the way his
feet keep moving, guarantee Ravens have a good rush defense.
But I also like Pacheck go over sixty four and
a half yards. I think so man, I think their
ground game, which people question, is looking pretty solid. So
right now, you got Lamar touchdown over sixty three rushing,
(12:29):
Pachecko touchdown right over sixty four rushing. Okay, Mahomes over
one and a half touchdowns. I think he'll get the
ball in the end zone twice. I know Raven's got
a good defense, but Mahomes two tutties. He he's almost
guaranteed for two touchdowns, okay, right, And the last one
is Ravens just themselves, not the both teams, just the
(12:49):
Ravens over twenty point five points. So if the Ravens
can't put up twenty one points in this game, the
Ravens have been scoring thirty to forty points a game.
So six things, one hundred wins, two thousand, that's the
this time I'll hit all six legs of my same
game parlay parlay.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know, I.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Really like this one a lot because you always ask, well,
which one.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Is the most questionable? I don't know. I like all
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Speaker 2 (14:22):
I really like that bet the more I look at it. Yeah,
just listen again. You don't have to do it. I
just like that that six game, the six legs, same game,
parlay spot. If you could throw that one up again.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Because Lamar, if you win, you'll be feeling like Hulk
Hogan in that ultimate Warrior moment.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I know, Lamar, Lamar Jackson. I'm telling you it's I.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Wouldn't touch his passing yards because there have been games
where Lamar's dominated, but it's like hyah one ninety passing yards.
So when it's like, I don't bank on Lamar throwing
for over a couple hundred yards because there are days
where he can rely on his legs in the run
game and playing the clock.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So I still of like this one. So it's a
good one.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Joy and welcome back to Over Promised, our bonus podcast,
Covino and Rich. We celebrate the Hulkster today on this
very special day, and we want to talk about players
who blew it but wish they got that Tyler bass treatment.
Wish they had that I did say, moved you blew out.
(15:23):
Wish they had that sort of support. Now, as you know,
this past weekend, two games came down to very crucial
field goal moments. Andrews Carlson he blew it, blew it.
Matt la Flore said every time he goes out there,
he would just pray. So right then and there, you
know you need a new kick when your coaches saying
(15:46):
I'm praying, yeah, bad news. I missed a forty one
yard field goal. And then he had to feel a
little bit better after that. When Tyler Bass went out
there to hit a forty four yard field goal and
missed wide right. Words the Bills fans did not want
to hear again. And I mean even the casual fans like,
(16:08):
oh no, this moment.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Forty yards Bass, No, he doesn't make it wide right, nightmare,
dreaded words in Buffalo NA, shredded.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Words, and the young dude and you see how sad
he is after the game.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But the fans, dude fans.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I'm not saying hardcore real fans, because I think the
Bills fans did step up. I'll explain getting death threats.
So and that poor helmet heater was locking him being
his name. So he's just sitting there, said and it
looks like ass, Tyler ass, adding insult to injury. Well,
turns out good for Tyler because he's a good guy
(16:53):
and he had certain charities that he worked with, one
of them being the ten Lives Club. Ten Lives Club,
and they spoke out on his behalf and they said,
we stand with Tyler Bass.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Don't bully our friend.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And they said they heard the terrible news that he
was receiving these threats and he was being bullied online.
They're like, yo, why don't you donate on his behalf?
Step up, do something different, And fans started donating twenty
two dollars, so he wears number two. Yeah, And people
started donating twenty two dollars at a time and had
(17:28):
raised over fifty thousand dollars for cats already just because
of this dude. So, turning dilemmas into dilemonade a nice
sort of silver lining to a really crappy moment. And
then you think about all these other crappy moments. Man,
we just just destroyed these people in the past. Yeah,
there are people that wish society what well, listen, while
(17:49):
social media is the most evil place out there. Back
in the day, you made a mistake like that, you
didn't get kind people being like.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh, you know, this is like your charity.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
He's a positive, nice twist on a really unfortunate situation
for this young guy.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
He's still just a young man. He wanted to make it.
We got to keep that in mind.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But we were so tough on these players, so it
made us think of other players who blew it and
should have got this treatment.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But did it.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I mean I number one, you gotta think of He
finally got he finally got redemption, but it took way
too long for Boston to be like yo, Bill Buckner.
He was such a great player, don't worry about it.
It's the biggest shame because he was such a great
play You look at his stats. The dude was solid
his whole career, and he's defined by this terrible, terrible play.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And behind the bag gets through.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I don't think he got officially sort of forgiven until
he started going out.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
There and he was on Curb your enthusiasm. Yeah, now
that they were.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
They made light of it later, but listen, we're talking
about a good almost twenty years until the Red Sox
won the World Series. Boston gave this guy a rough time.
He's an Idaho guy, right, he's up there chilling and yeah,
and he recently passed away. But he was forgiven and
people did love the guy and he was a great player.
It was just an unfortunate, fortunate error for him. And
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this is when goat meant you blew the game. The
definition has changed throughout the year now he was the goat,
meaning the curse was on him, and he brought that
Chicago Cubs curse over to Boston back then. Another one
that comes to mind, and we sort of elluded, helped
it and alluded to it before Norwood Scotty Norwood Buffalo.
(19:36):
I think if they had not gone to four Super
Bowls and is what does Bill stand for?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Again? Boy, I love losing Super Bowls four in a row.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And you know what, You look back and you say, well,
they were outmatched big time when they played the Cowboys Washington.
The Redskins at that time had a good team, but
this wide right Norwood against the Giants, that was the
team that was better. That was a Jeff Hostel Giants
team that didn't match up. So this was their chance
where they should have could have won and Scott Norwich
(20:07):
and he was a good kicker, and that's all we remember.
Unfortunately it's unfair, but that's it with sports. I mean,
no one forced him to be a kicker. He could
be the hero, you could be the zero, the worst
guy in the world. And another moment for the Vikings
in ninety eight, Gary Anderson, Gary Anderson, This this is
(20:28):
a team that I mean, if you're a Vikings fan,
you've had some rough moments.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
People weren't saying he was number one that day.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, I mean your twins give you a couple back
in the eighties and nineties. But the Vikings have always
fallen a little short. And this is their best year
if I remember correctly. They were fifteen and one. They
were running past everyone, they were killing it and a
game they should have could have won. Gary Anderson just
came up short. And that was the year the Falcons
went to the Super Bowl with the Dirty Bird and
(20:55):
they got crushed by the Broncos. But this was Minnesota's
year to deal is it's too late to donate to
one of his favorite charities?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Can we make good on this?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Because we were terrible people to these players and uh,
can I think.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Of speaking of players, can nominate a team?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I mean you could say the entire team that you're, oh,
four Yankees that let the Red Sox come back down
three to oh. I think a team deserves to be nominated,
Like Yo, Yankee fans were not forgiving you.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Guys had all.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Those World Series, so there was you. People didn't get
down on you enough. But that was they blew it.
I mean, anytime you talk about comebacks, you bring up
that team, you bring up the Red Sox or did
they beat the Yankees?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
That was miserable, and you know you want to bring
up a team.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I think of the one team because I felt like
the Yankee should have won two thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, but what they didn't blow it? He blew That
was a good That was a good Mary. You have
Rivera on the.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Bure out there, you had moh and it was two
thousand and one, just after nine to eleven New York.
The whole country for once was kind of rooting for
the Yanks.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
That's sure a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
But either way, when you think of really blowing it, yeah,
that twenty fourteen, we're talking about people that probably wish
they got the Tyler Bass forgive me forgiveness treatment. Let's
wrap it with maybe the biggest fail choke of all time,
because there's so many, so many ways that this game
could have knock got out of control, but it did.
The Atlanta Falcons. Tom Brady's epic comeback only happened because
(22:36):
Atlanta let them hang around twenty eight to three. We
all remember the image twenty eight to three and then
the final score thirty four twenty eight Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Thrady comeback? Thirty one unanswered points? Brady comeback?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Oh, legendary, legendary, So sad for the Falcons?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Hawn'd you bean? A Falcons fan?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's like that was your can't ever say a team
was closer to victory two minutes up to the third quarter.
You're up twenty eight to three, and somehow, some way
you let Brady come back.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Brady come back. That's how legends are born. Well they
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We joined forces like sports Voltrons o form this show
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Hope you're having a great week so far. This is
the stuff we couldn't get to on the show. I
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have a parlay, don't fail. I have a teaser. Oh sweet,
forty nine ers like life found this. That's when you
know you got a good wife when she's like I
saw a throwback Niner shirt.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I got it for you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Nineteen eighty nine, this is the year Montana had the
drive to win the Super Bowl. So hopefully I have
the same faith this year with Brock Berdy.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We're also gonna get to players who blew it but
wish they got that Tyler Bess sort of treatment. If
you don't know what we're talking about, we'll explain. But
today mark's a very special anniversary. As I hold my
little Hulk Comania action figure here, a little funk copop.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
What you're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Forty years ago? Today we're taking it back.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
January twenty third, nineteen eighty four, the place Madison Square Garden,
Hull Cogan pins the iron cheek and you hear Howard
Finkel Oh no WWF at the time world Champion hul
Cogan and the rest is history. Billion dollar industry we
saw just before that. Netflix now owns Monday Night Raw
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for the next ten years for five billion dollars. So
to say that wrestling didn't really start until Hull Cogan
would be crazy. It didn't until until the Hulkster.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Was the guy. It was like just old dudes grappling.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It changed everything. Yeah, we lived in a time where
we weren't even sure if it.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Was real or fake.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I remember being a little kid asking my parents, but
knowing that my parents didn't even know the answer, like
they didn't even all knew at the time. Before all
the fun gimmicks like Jake the Snake and Macho Man
and Million Dollar Man, before all that, it was like
Bruno San Martino fighting Ivan Putski.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's just two old dudes grapple it. So on this day,
Holgan changed history.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well today, as they say, is the day Hulkamania was born,
which changed it all. So if you want to you
started saying your prayers, meeting your well, first of all,
I think you had this as well. Did you have
the Hull Cogan workout set first and first mostlam made.
That's my first true workout before going to the gym
with you after Fox Sports. Yes, I had those little
blue weights, Iran. The hand grips, yeah, I have those.
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That's why my forearms are so.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Ripped till this day. And it's funny you bring this up.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's why you were ripping doubles in the gap, right,
I had the arm strength. I was saying my prayers,
eat writing his little wholk of maniac. The toys were
everything back then too, right, the wrestling figures, the thumb wrestlers.
But there's also a few other storylines in the news today. Again,
you already mentioned that they signed a deal ten year
deal for five billion raw on Netflix. That's great, that's huge.
(03:23):
And The Rock also joined the WWE board with TKO
and he now as of today, has ownership of his
name The Rock, so exclusive rights to the name moving forward,
and all this not possible, not possible.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
If not for the Holkster Brother. What you're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So I want to take a look back at some
of your favorite Hogan moments, some of our favorite ones,
in no particular order. You'd have to say that today's
is probably the biggest because it changed everything. Yeah, without
a doubt, when he pinned the iron cheek, it was
like good guy, bad guy.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
This McMahon was like, oh shit, we got something to him.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
By the way, this is when it was okay to
lean into those stereotypes a much different times, right, So
we were all yeah, and he became a hero. But
I think the one that people think of along with
this one is when he slammed body slammed Andre the Giant. Well,
you know, looking back, it was wrestling and we were like, wait,
you're telling me ninety thousand people were in the Silver
(04:21):
Dome watching this happen. Amazing slamming the five hundred foot
pump sid five hundred pound giants. It was a big
deal back then. Man might as well have been five hundred feet.
I was gonna say, as a little kid watching that,
that's how you felt like Andre the Giant. No way
the Hulkster could body slam this guy, and he did,
and we.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
All remember it. Something I remember too, Rich.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I wasn't as crazy of a wrestling fanatic as you were,
but I remember all the hype. There was so much
hype about Hulk Holgan the wrestler now becoming a movie star.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
This star in no Hols Bar.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
This movie was so shitty it was, but what it
did was, well, that's him as a thu the reps
in Rocky three, which by the way, is a another
great appearance by the Holkster.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You know what, why not whole Cogan was it rights?
He didn't have the rights to hell E. Vince was
like Stallone was like I'm making thunderlips absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I mean that's a good one spot, but I'm thinking
this piece of junk movie. But you know what it did, though,
you could say it was shitty and Zeus tiny, Zeus Lister.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It wasn't a good movie.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
But what it did was it paved the way for
the Rock and John Cena and Stone Cold and Bautista
and a lot of these guys to actually say, maybe
I could be.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
An actor too.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I just remember so much promotion, so much hype went
into it. The movie was lackluster, like you said.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But they've brought Zeus so ww. He doesn't say Zeus
became a household name.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And you really, as a kid, you were like, this,
dude's scary, right, so you were way into that rich
I know something else that you were way into and wo.
It was high school for me. And I remember thinking,
we're sort of tired of Hogan being the good guy.
He pulls the old switcheroo, turns heel whoa bruh, get.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It for the money?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I don't like you kids, and everyone's throwing water bottles
and popcorn at him.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Hogan becoming a villain gave him a whole second life,
a whole second life. They ran with that gimmick.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
He was dying his beard and he was the bad guy,
and everybody bought into it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It was great how did he not do it just
for men? Commercial? Would that beer? He should have been
on the box failed opportunity?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Now absolutely, if you're a wrestling fan like I was
of the eighties, I think one of the funniest moments
was because Hogan couldn't lose back then, right, If he lost,
it had to be because someone was cheating. He'd half
back guys and dropped a big legup. Do you remember
the twin refs, the Hebner brothers and one of them
was bought out by the million Dollar Man, and Hogan's.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Like, which ones are your brother? Who are you brother?
Like this this.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Ship was the funniest thing to me because the only
way in the mid eighties Hogan could lose is if
there were twin referees that cheated. Yep, because he was
unbeatable until until when they got Ultimate.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Eleven.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Twelve year old little me. Yeah, I'll admit it. Now,
I might have shed a tear, might have when the
put money on it that you did when the Ultimate
Warrior beat the Hulkster, I was like, this can't be.
What was the over under on richest tears, This can't be.
By the way that moment lives in meme form that is,
wait to say, what's the going on there?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Making back? This is a little questionable. Maybe the Halkster
did win? What is going on? My goodness?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, anyway, WrestleMania six was probably the most watched thing
when we were kids. Right, Hogan lost to the Ultimate
Warrior fair and I remember though Ultimate Warrior was the
greatest intercontinental champion of all time, he was no schlub.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
This guy was shredded.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So we were buying into The Ultimate Warrior two at
that time. But these are the moments that stand out
to us on this very special day. Me personally, We've
had the honor of interviewing the Hawkster a few times.
I'll never forget one of the first times we interviewed him,
seeing as they seemed like twenty six inch pythons, and
he tapped me on the bean bag and he.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Said, all right, brother, we gotta fit my arms into
this picture. His arm, You guys go nuts to butts.
Look at his arm compared to me. Look at this.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Look how big this dude is bigger than Rich's entire
Torso look at that.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Hey, nuts to bus, brother, we gotta fit it in.
Shout out. Look how he squoshes us in there. Shout
out to the Holkster brother.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Congratulations on a stellar career and for changing all of
our lives. Really, even the casual wrestling fan had the
toys or was impacted in some way by rest, no doubt.
And it's forty years today, so Phil old Jet forty
years ago today, the birth of Holka Mania. Now let's
turn our attention to DraftKings, because this weekend, here's what
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we're gonna do. We do two over promised a week right.
This week we're doing Tuesday and Thursday. Today I'm breaking
down the AFC. We'll worry about the Niners Lions on Thursday.
Let's start with what I'm calling what should I call this?
Mahomes won't keept blown out in the playoffs teaser?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Little wordy, but I'll roll with it. A little wordy,
little wordy. I uh yeah, yeah, you know what I'll
call this.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I'll call this Mahomes does not get blown out in
the postseason teaser.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Wordy, but we'll go with it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Okay, it's a seven point teaser, so you're wagering a
little more one forty to win one hundred. But I
love the Chiefs getting ten and a half because I'm
convinced that they could very well win this game, and
I think they're both going to score, so score, Uh,
they're kind of score. So I look at this and say,
go over thirty seven and a half. Take it from
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forty four and a half down to thirty seven and
a half, and take the over, and then go from
three and a half to ten and a half on
a seven point tease. Again, you're wagering a little more,
and people hate these sucker bets, but this is a
game that's so unpredictable to me. But the one thing
I feel confident in is that the Chiefs will not
get blown out by double digits Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs.
As I'm calling it, the Mahomes does not get blown
(09:56):
out in the postseason teaser.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean, wordy but effective.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You underestimated him last week and it was a part
of me and a part of everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Is like, you know what, He's still Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, still the Chiefs. You're seeing some of that magic
come back. I don't see any blow out either. And listen,
this could be Lamar's year MVP. He could go on
to win the super Bowl, but Mahomes, unlike the Ultimate Warrior,
will not go down easy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
He but it seems like Mahomes is Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Can you see him in the playoffs losing by twenty
or soing, No, I just don't see it. They'll find
even if they lose, it'll be a valiant effort by
Patrick Mahomes, Kelsey and that Chiefs team Andy Reid will
not get out coached that much. So I like, I'm sorry,
stop the holkster's distracting me. Is he in pain or
in total bliss?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right there? Figure that out?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That is not spot Get rid of that. So yeah,
plus ten and a half over thirty seven and a half.
That's the Mahomes does not get blown out postseason teaser.
I'm with you. I'd be had a character to see
him blown out like that. Now this one my worthy
as well. I'm calling this my this time, I'll hit
all six legs of my same game parlay parlay. All right,
(11:08):
So these are six things that need to happen that
damn I feel like they will. And this is plus
two thousand. So you bet one hundred, bet a hondo, Yeah,
win two grand? Hey, you bet you know fifty bucks,
win a thousand things to happen. Yeah, tough, but not impossible.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
As you know.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Listen, I'm not the only one, and you know, bet
at your own risk. I'm not telling you what to
do fun, but I can't tell you how many people
are with me and saying well, yeah, dummy, everyone hits
five out of six. Like the last couple of weeks,
as you've been watching the playoff games with me, every game,
I'm like, oh, I just needed this, got to get
eight more yards and I want to hit a six
for six.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
This is the week, all right, this is the week.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So write these down play along at home if you want.
Lamar Jackson anytime touchdown, Lamar Jackson over sixty three and
a half yards rushing. He's been averaging more than that
in the postivon, So Lamar Jackson over sixty three yards
rushing and any time touchdown in the game, guarantee. Isaiah
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Pacheco anytime touchdown in the game, guarante the way he's playing,
the way they're giving him the ball, the way his
feet keep moving, guarantee Ravens have a good rush defense.
But I also like Pacheck go over sixty four and
a half yards. I think so man, I think their
ground game, which people question, is looking pretty solid. So
right now, you got Lamar touchdown over sixty three rushing,
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Pachecko touchdown right over sixty four rushing. Okay, Mahomes over
one and a half touchdowns. I think he'll get the
ball in the end zone twice. I know Raven's got
a good defense, but Mahomes two tutties. He he's almost
guaranteed for two touchdowns, okay, right, And the last one
is Ravens just themselves, not the both teams, just the
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Ravens over twenty point five points. So if the Ravens
can't put up twenty one points in this game, the
Ravens have been scoring thirty to forty points a game.
So six things, one hundred wins, two thousand, that's the
this time I'll hit all six legs of my same
game parlay parlay.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know, I.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Really like this one a lot because you always ask, well,
which one.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Is the most questionable? I don't know. I like all
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Speaker 2 (14:22):
I really like that bet the more I look at it. Yeah,
just listen again. You don't have to do it. I
just like that that six game, the six legs, same game,
parlay spot. If you could throw that one up again.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Because Lamar, if you win, you'll be feeling like Hulk
Hogan in that ultimate Warrior moment.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I know, Lamar, Lamar Jackson. I'm telling you it's I.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Wouldn't touch his passing yards because there have been games
where Lamar's dominated, but it's like hyah one ninety passing yards.
So when it's like, I don't bank on Lamar throwing
for over a couple hundred yards because there are days
where he can rely on his legs in the run
game and playing the clock.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So I still of like this one. So it's a
good one.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Joy and welcome back to Over Promised, our bonus podcast,
Covino and Rich. We celebrate the Hulkster today on this
very special day, and we want to talk about players
who blew it but wish they got that Tyler bass treatment.
Wish they had that I did say, moved you blew out.
(15:23):
Wish they had that sort of support. Now, as you know,
this past weekend, two games came down to very crucial
field goal moments. Andrews Carlson he blew it, blew it.
Matt la Flore said every time he goes out there,
he would just pray. So right then and there, you
know you need a new kick when your coaches saying
(15:46):
I'm praying, yeah, bad news. I missed a forty one
yard field goal. And then he had to feel a
little bit better after that. When Tyler Bass went out
there to hit a forty four yard field goal and
missed wide right. Words the Bills fans did not want
to hear again. And I mean even the casual fans like,
(16:08):
oh no, this moment.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Forty yards Bass, No, he doesn't make it wide right, nightmare,
dreaded words in Buffalo NA, shredded.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Words, and the young dude and you see how sad
he is after the game.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But the fans, dude fans.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I'm not saying hardcore real fans, because I think the
Bills fans did step up. I'll explain getting death threats.
So and that poor helmet heater was locking him being
his name. So he's just sitting there, said and it
looks like ass, Tyler ass, adding insult to injury. Well,
turns out good for Tyler because he's a good guy
(16:53):
and he had certain charities that he worked with, one
of them being the ten Lives Club. Ten Lives Club,
and they spoke out on his behalf and they said,
we stand with Tyler Bass.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Don't bully our friend.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And they said they heard the terrible news that he
was receiving these threats and he was being bullied online.
They're like, yo, why don't you donate on his behalf?
Step up, do something different, And fans started donating twenty
two dollars, so he wears number two. Yeah, And people
started donating twenty two dollars at a time and had
(17:28):
raised over fifty thousand dollars for cats already just because
of this dude. So, turning dilemmas into dilemonade a nice
sort of silver lining to a really crappy moment. And
then you think about all these other crappy moments. Man,
we just just destroyed these people in the past. Yeah,
there are people that wish society what well, listen, while
(17:49):
social media is the most evil place out there. Back
in the day, you made a mistake like that, you
didn't get kind people being like.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh, you know, this is like your charity.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
He's a positive, nice twist on a really unfortunate situation
for this young guy.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
He's still just a young man. He wanted to make it.
We got to keep that in mind.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But we were so tough on these players, so it
made us think of other players who blew it and
should have got this treatment.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But did it.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I mean I number one, you gotta think of He
finally got he finally got redemption, but it took way
too long for Boston to be like yo, Bill Buckner.
He was such a great player, don't worry about it.
It's the biggest shame because he was such a great
play You look at his stats. The dude was solid
his whole career, and he's defined by this terrible, terrible play.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And behind the bag gets through.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I don't think he got officially sort of forgiven until
he started going out.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
There and he was on Curb your enthusiasm. Yeah, now
that they were.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
They made light of it later, but listen, we're talking
about a good almost twenty years until the Red Sox
won the World Series. Boston gave this guy a rough time.
He's an Idaho guy, right, he's up there chilling and yeah,
and he recently passed away. But he was forgiven and
people did love the guy and he was a great player.
It was just an unfortunate, fortunate error for him. And
(19:13):
this is when goat meant you blew the game. The
definition has changed throughout the year now he was the goat,
meaning the curse was on him, and he brought that
Chicago Cubs curse over to Boston back then. Another one
that comes to mind, and we sort of elluded, helped
it and alluded to it before Norwood Scotty Norwood Buffalo.
(19:36):
I think if they had not gone to four Super
Bowls and is what does Bill stand for?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Again? Boy, I love losing Super Bowls four in a row.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And you know what, You look back and you say, well,
they were outmatched big time when they played the Cowboys Washington.
The Redskins at that time had a good team, but
this wide right Norwood against the Giants, that was the
team that was better. That was a Jeff Hostel Giants
team that didn't match up. So this was their chance
where they should have could have won and Scott Norwich
(20:07):
and he was a good kicker, and that's all we remember.
Unfortunately it's unfair, but that's it with sports. I mean,
no one forced him to be a kicker. He could
be the hero, you could be the zero, the worst
guy in the world. And another moment for the Vikings
in ninety eight, Gary Anderson, Gary Anderson, This this is
(20:28):
a team that I mean, if you're a Vikings fan,
you've had some rough moments.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
People weren't saying he was number one that day.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, I mean your twins give you a couple back
in the eighties and nineties. But the Vikings have always
fallen a little short. And this is their best year
if I remember correctly. They were fifteen and one. They
were running past everyone, they were killing it and a
game they should have could have won. Gary Anderson just
came up short. And that was the year the Falcons
went to the Super Bowl with the Dirty Bird and
(20:55):
they got crushed by the Broncos. But this was Minnesota's
year to deal is it's too late to donate to
one of his favorite charities?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Can we make good on this?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Because we were terrible people to these players and uh,
can I think.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Of speaking of players, can nominate a team?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I mean you could say the entire team that you're, oh,
four Yankees that let the Red Sox come back down
three to oh. I think a team deserves to be nominated,
Like Yo, Yankee fans were not forgiving you.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Guys had all.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Those World Series, so there was you. People didn't get
down on you enough. But that was they blew it.
I mean, anytime you talk about comebacks, you bring up
that team, you bring up the Red Sox or did
they beat the Yankees?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
That was miserable, and you know you want to bring
up a team.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I think of the one team because I felt like
the Yankee should have won two thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, but what they didn't blow it? He blew That
was a good That was a good Mary. You have
Rivera on the.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Bure out there, you had moh and it was two
thousand and one, just after nine to eleven New York.
The whole country for once was kind of rooting for
the Yanks.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
That's sure a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
But either way, when you think of really blowing it, yeah,
that twenty fourteen, we're talking about people that probably wish
they got the Tyler Bass forgive me forgiveness treatment. Let's
wrap it with maybe the biggest fail choke of all time,
because there's so many, so many ways that this game
could have knock got out of control, but it did.
The Atlanta Falcons. Tom Brady's epic comeback only happened because
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Atlanta let them hang around twenty eight to three. We
all remember the image twenty eight to three and then
the final score thirty four twenty eight Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Thrady comeback? Thirty one unanswered points? Brady comeback?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Oh, legendary, legendary, So sad for the Falcons?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Hawn'd you bean? A Falcons fan?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's like that was your can't ever say a team
was closer to victory two minutes up to the third quarter.
You're up twenty eight to three, and somehow, some way
you let Brady come back.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Brady come back. That's how legends are born. Well they
have it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
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on the East, and we do this twice a week now, yep,
and we'll see you back here on Thursday. Until then,
all right, there you baby, See you in the over
promised land.
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