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April 29, 2020 58 min

Samara chats with the founder and CEO of The Phenomenal Woman Action Campaign about the power of wearing your values on a shirt, speaking up (and not) when you don’t know enough, why Shine Theory is the answer to everything, and how we can center our own stories and teach it to the next generation, like today.


Host: Samara Bay

Executive producers: Catherine Burt Cantin & Mark Cantin, Double Vision

Producers: Samara Bay, Sophie Lichterman and the iHeart team

Theme music: Mark Cantin

For Stacey Abrams’ book:

For more about Families Belong Together:

 For more about Higher Heights:

 For Meena’s book pre-sale:

 In the meanwhile, here are some kids books we love that do centering well:

The Day You Begin:

What If…:

Fairy Science:

The Proudest Blue:

Julian is a Mermaid:

 For Alicia Garza’s conversation at UChicago:

 For more on Black Lives Matter:

 For more on Black Futures Lab:

 For more about the Crown Act:

 For more about Shine Theory:

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