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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You are now in June to respectives with big Bang Bang.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Let's get straight to it.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
In order to direct your path, you must edit your circle.
Welcome to the space with Bank Today, I got my
partner wrecked the cricket in the building. How you feel
in the can.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And I feel amazing? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Where you live elevated, you know, on a high level.
You know, I don't really deal too much on this plane.
You know, I just hover and I see what's going
on down there. Dig you know what I'm saying. That's
why I'm not I'm.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Up there, but people might not know who you is.
You know what I'm saying. Give us a brief description
of shit.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Notoriously known for director music videos ship for at least
sixteen or seventeen years in Atlanta for anybody you could
think of. I guess we could name Little Baby, started him, Thug, Migos, Guchi,
Fat Gucci, Skinny Gucci, Waka Jeezy, NBA, You and boy
Yo Gotti. It's an extensive lists. You know what I say,
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It's a blessed list. I've been blessed for the last
sixteen seventeen years in Atlanta to be able to do
music videos for the who's who in the A and
having a good.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Hand in it. But you started in Detroit, the right.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
In Detroit, that's my hometown. Did not do a video
in Detroit. I did music. I came to Atlanta thinking
I was going to be a super producer because I
was a music producer in Detroit. You know, fucked with
Eminem good friend of mine, Royce five nine, discovered him,
discovered j dill A, the super popular producer from the Crib.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I had a hand in that.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, And I came to Atlanta with dreams of being
a super producer by way of my kid's mother, who
had a situation with Dallas Austin, and that didn't happen.
I fell in love with the energy of the city
and I never left. So when you pick up a camera, okay,
hold on, I did leave. I caught a case. I
caught a case. I caught a case, and I went
back home. When I got out of jail, came back
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in two thousand. I was trying to mess with the
music and it was real segregated. It wasn't what it
is now in Atlanta, where it's a camaraderie in brotherhood
and from there, it just seemed like it was no
way in and I was like, man, I forget this,
I'm gonna do something else. So I pivoted. I liked
to write, started writing scripts and stuff like that from
thought I was terrible, and that led into filming and
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it just worked out. Tapped in with the White Phillips
from Atlanta, Olympic loan jump champion, five timego medalists. He
saw the vision by where a note, honorable note. My
brother put us together and he funded a studio with
all equipment, hired some white kids that went to school
for it, and that's why I got my education. And
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it wasn't no looking back. It was no looking back.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So what made Atlanta the city you wanted to be in?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I fell in love with the energy of the city
when I came in ninety two ninety three. I was
tapped in with Kenny Burns and one of my one
of my big homies from Detroit was you know, down
with Kenningham and they had this thing called twenty six
twenty kb KB the Dream is Real. They was rocking
the Phoenix, the Warehouse, the club over there on Dang,
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I want to say West Old Marietta Street or something
like that. But anyway, came out here kicked it with them,
and it's like, dang, this energy is crazy. It wasn't
like nothing I've ever seen in my life, and knew
I wanted to be a part of it. And uh,
like I said, I got in trouble, I went home,
and it just never left me. I was like, damn Atlanta, Atlanta,
Atlanta and two thousand. I said, mana, I'm going to Atlanta.
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I told some of my homies, they big homies, rich
and shit. I was like, bro, I'm going to Atlanta.
It was like, I got a situation in Atlanta, Let's
do it. So we came out here, mob deep with
a bunch of cars, tour buses, the whole nine yards,
and we worked that thing for a minute.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
And I never left. I never left. What was the
early challenges of like trying to be in there.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Oh acclimate into the difference. You know, coming from Detroit,
you know, it's real city, real robust. Knew all my
hustles and had everything in line on how to survive.
But when I got to Atlanta, it was a culture shock.
Everything was different, you know. Yeah, it was hustling and
stuff like that. But you can't just jump in to
what people got going on. So just learning my way
and finding out what would be my means of finances
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to sustain in Atlanta at the time, and like I said,
I was hoping it would be music didn't work. Made
a pivot to the film Yeah, turned into music videos,
which was education for me. The music videos taught me
how to do film and television more than I could
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even imagine, you know. It took me there and gave
me the opportunity to use money to create stories and
tell stories as well as learn the terrain, learned Atlanta,
learn the people, learn the energy, you know, and bed
my self in it. So you self talk, self talk
everything YouTube and shots out to my boy, Troy White Boy.
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Troy is my guy. His parients spent probably like fifty
sixty thousand and shoot. Me and him are sitting there, smoke,
drink and he showed me everything he knew. So I
got a nice ass education off of Troy.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
So when did you shift from like shooting videos to
like just want to do films?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And well, film was the film was the mission all along,
that was the gold, that was the straight up goal.
That's what I intended to do. I had an opportunity
with a producer, very early stages of me getting into it,
and he was like, yeah, bring me a script. Let
me check it out. If it's good, we'll produce it.
Took him the script, he bread it, gave it back
to me. It was read.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I was like, what's the red markets He was like,
everywhere it's red. It's no good.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's the whole fucking script. So I learned that it
was a lot that I had to learn. And at
the time, the woman I was with, she believed in
me so much. She went and bought a lot of books.
She was real instrumental to the cause. So she bought
a lot of books to help self educate me. And
I did it. I ate it, you know, and music
videos started taking off. I think my first look was
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Shorty Low. Shouts out to Shorty Low. Shorty Low gave
me my first look. I did a video for him
and Johnny Cabell and he let me cut it, and
then from there it was up. Brought the future through
him at ESCO and man, I mean I turned into
him pretty fast. It was I mean, you had decayed
in in, you had motion family, you had It was
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a lot of great guys that was in the in
the midst of you decayed. It was some more fat cats.
I might be forgetting a couple of visual that was
fat cat visuals. So you know, when I got into it,
I had more than everybody had because of the investment
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situation that I had.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I had the building with the walls.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It was a five hundred Bishop Street right in midtime
was idea for everything. And I tried to partner with
a lot of people, you know, and it's just like, well,
you know, and everybody felt their way how it was,
and I was like, well, fuck it, I'm gonna take
this ship.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Why speaking of that, why do you think so in
every in every business set and his ego?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Basically right, everyone, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Why you think it's like because a lot of video
niggas be tripping.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like I mean, back then, I understood the reason why
the money was so sweet. It ain't ship now, but
it's something though, and if you could get your hands
on something, get it. But I think it was the
money thing. And it was like, uh, it was the
first taste of celebrity like individual you know, being a director,
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because yeah, I'm doing this for such and such.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So it gave you bragging rights, and it gave you
something to stand on it for people to be able
to acknowledge you for being able to do something. So
I think that was a lot of the well, like
a lot of the ego came from, and that was
the that was the catalyst for me. It was the
type of equipment I could play with.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
That was my thing. That drove my ego.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Like Nigga, I'm playing with the motherfucking red Nigga. We
got the new lenses, you know what I'm saying. It
was that type of deal for me. I really didn't
get too caught up in who I was shooting. It
was like it was a rush. It was a blessing
and I got to shoot all the big dogs and
it happened so fast. I never really dialed into it
like a lot of the other brothers. They dialed into
it like I'm shooting this person, I'm shooting that, and they,
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you know, used it to catapult the platforms. I was
just really in it for the I want to do movies.
I'm gonna make these motherfuckers look like movies, and I'm
making some money.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You know that was my whole.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
But nigga, I could fuck around shoot the video with cricket,
Nigga shoot on noth Nigga mad at me.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I mean, I really didn't get I really get too
mad at people because I understood.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I learned early. I learned early that it ain't no
loyal to you in this.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Dish on you though.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Well, if a nigga like you out a video for me,
it's business, you know, you know, like, but you don't
sign it to me.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well, I just made you.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
That's how that ship over gave you that one. You
look great, bro, Gotta you up. You're gonna start tripping.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think I think that that ship came from you
know a lot of uh, a lot of dreams were
sold in those rooms.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know what I'm saying. You're locked in.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta figure it's the hustle on the hustle. Yeah,
so the artists hustling the ship out of the director
and you're gonna do about three of these bitches.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Nigga got you, bro.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know what I'm saying. You're like, nigga, fuck it,
I do it for this, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you're done. Did it for the woolp? Now he over
there with them, You're like, bro, the fuck going no?
So that's why I think.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, you know, because niggas making personal, making personal
like my man, like when we shooting it, did my man?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You know what I'm saying niggas.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Niggas has got damn taking pay cuting and we're paying
out our own pocket to eat all types of ship.
Niggas ain't charging the shit they could have charged you over.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Here, and that's what it was. You hit it on
the head.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's that's why I think most of the animosity and
the energy where niggas be upset was because of that.
But I learned real early that Okay, my fucking all
they gonna do is he gonna come holler, let you
see what your ticket is, hollow him him, holler at him,
and they gonna pitch you against each other to get
the best number.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But I never just I just never really played into it.
I was like a lone wolf, you know. I knew
everybody fucked with people, but I was just like, I
fuck that. You want to creak a video, nigga gotta
come see me, you know. So I just tried to
make it boutique, you know, never market it never none.
Everything was worthing off. Yeah, that shit was gravy any
Gucci love cricket man.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Grit.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
But when we shot the video, me, you you shot
met him in bou Dirty.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
That shit was.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Crazy, said you him, boo dirty. That was a squad car. Yeah,
and then that's saying the next day, I think we
shot him off and uh fucking boot dirty them in
the same damn And that shit was crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
He shot like full video that weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Gucci was a month who who was like your favorite
person to shoot?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Oh, I don't know, you know, Future was dope, bro.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I ain't gonna lie. I think I think Future was hard.
You know, Gucci was fun because I knew Gucci. You
know what I'm saying. O, shit turned into like a
relationship like that.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I was my bro.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So we'll argue about personal ship into the video shit.
But uh, I used to I used to. I think
I like I like shooting the future. A lot of
Future was dope. Latest. Fuck, I can't think of a
rapper that was ever on fucking time. I can't think
of one. Gucci was dope because Gucci educated me in
a different way. You know, I used to be mad
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about Ship because he Gucci was the first person to
make motherfuckers pay me real money too, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
He'd be like, yeah, yeah, we're gonna have cricket, shoot
the video here, gonna give him ten thousands, and.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I'd be like, what what niggas just run the bread
right then and there. But it's asked to spend the
whole ten you know, I want to I want the mansion,
I want some girls, I want lambos.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I'd be like, bruh, bruh, she slowly running away from me.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, man, you're eating the whole tea. And then one
day but You was like you're doing it all wrong.
I was like, what you mean, I'm doing it wrong.
He was like, bro, I'm Gucci. You supposed to leverage
me to get a lot of that ship for free.
And I was like, you dumb motherfucker criky, how you
didn't think of that? And when he said that, it
was like boom. And then I just started piling everything
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and I started seeing it for what it was. It's like,
old on, we need girls. Shit, I got Gucci who coming? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, yeah, they hitting.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it'd be a good opportunity.
Y'all got the enxiety car runner, This would be a
great opportunity for you guys to present your cards. Put
it in the video. It be like a little commercial.
Thirty seconds of that on your ship. Everybody want to
come to you. So then I started working it in
that dynamic and it started working.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Niggas a lot of niggas don't think that nigga where
they know now, but back then that nigga was small.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I got with Gucci, damn there, and thought I was
gonna get killed by Gucci. How me and Gucci got
together because I had a video guys. You know video
guy right Bropanne called me. This is how I met
Gucci too. He said, I had the building, I had
all this ship. He said, hey, bro, we need some
we need some lenses. I'm coming to get some shit.
We're gonna break some bread with you.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I was like, let's go.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
They told me who they was doing the ship. I
was like, damn, bro, I want to me Gucci and
walk the fuck that I roll, you know what I'm saying.
And I rolled video guys shooting and ship. I started
helping the nigga.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's like your nig bro, I help.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't give a fuck, you know. And then he
was like, yeah, I heard y'all boys over there getting
down on them edits. And I was like yeah, So
he paid me for the lenses, and he was like,
I'm gonna let y'all cut this bitch. I was like,
she was called busting jugs.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I was. I was like, hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So I had my young nigga left shouts out to left,
left big, that's real big right now too.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So me and left I remember left, he take the
shoes out of shoot all day long in the zone. Yeah,
and so were smoking. We geeked like damn nigga playing
a Gucci video.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
We geeking like the motherfucking chop that bitch up, pass out,
wake up the video?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
God calling me bro, what the fuck the video?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Everywhere?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I'm like, mot the fuck you're talking about the video everywhere? Like, man,
this ship doesne got leaked.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
We didn't put the past uh the protection password on
the ship. That ship was everywhere, you know what I'm saying.
So he called and he called them propane calling the
on me. I'm like, I ain't telling this nigga. I
ain't no hold no, I understand nigga, but I ain't
no whole ass nigga. He gonna just keep calling me
like it's like it's smoked. You know what I'm saying,
Fuck all that, nigga. I understand that. You know what's
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going on?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah? My bad? Right? And then Gucci called. Now I've
never talked to Gucci in my life. I don't. I
just know. I'm like, that's Gucci. Man, Like, hey, motherfucker,
you talking about my ship? What that nigga? I was
getting thirty from the label. Nigga, you owed me ten
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motherfucking videos. Motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I was like, fuck, hung up the fall, I yelled,
and sleep from a sleeping So we go through it
and then started thinkings like hold up, we're about to
do ten videos for Gucci.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You know what I'm saying of that?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And I remember the first night he called me, it
was latest. Fuck man, this man has no regards for time. Man,
you gotta love it. Man, cow motherfucker called me. It
was probably like midnight, one o'clock. I don't even you know,
I'm still like nigga, this this Gucca. They smashing niggas
fucking niggas up, so you know, I know all the
horror stories. Nigga like meet me at patchwork. I'm like,
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all right, grab my pistol, like, fuck it, it's gonna
be what it's gonna be. You know what I'm saying.
I get over there, get in there as him as
a toven. He played like they played the shitty player
song me what I would do with it? I told him,
play another one. I asked me what I would do
with it? I told him and he was like, I
want to shoot them tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I was like, tomorrow. This is my introduction to Gucci.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So I don't know he would have shot that night. Yeah,
mechanic and ship right, And I was like damn. And
then he went in his bag and he threw me
a wire bread. It was about that fucking big.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I was like, what the fuck. And then I walked out.
I was geeked.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And then I went back in and he was like,
what's wrong. I said, Bro, I ain't taking your money.
I can't hide this ship done by tomorrow, Bro, shoot
too videos. I'm not I'm not ready for that. He
was like when can you do it? I said, probably
like Thursday. This is like a Monday or Tuesday. He
was like, all right, Thursday it is.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
And I was like and I was looking at the
money and she was like take it, and I was like,
all right. Cool.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So Marl of the story is I shot a million
videos for me, pay me for everything. I never did
the ten videos for free. Got a lot of game
from him, you know. Uh ship. That led into the
the little Babies, the young Thugs, the bank roved freshest
young dogs, the Pee Wee long Way ship. Pee long
Way paid for a video Gucci made his ass paid
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for a video for thug.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Uh yeah, I was a little bit. We on top,
we on top.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, it was crazy. And then weeks later Pee Wee
rapping it was crazy. Yeah it was a little duke.
It was a little duke. And yeah who was on top?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
And it was that one. Yeah that's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Y'all had bathom. Yeah you killed that video. Yeah, I
think that was thought for a video.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Who's on right? First real video, real video?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And that was my I remember when when Gucci brought
him because we used to be you remember over there
Zone six and shipped the building he had the one
building that a lot. Yeah that month, God damn Anyway, though,
I remember when the ship.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
That building is where the migos came from.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I was there when they was discovered ship Bankrove Fresh
when he scooter Dog.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Everybody man bro in one in that bill of that
nigga Guta head, every nigga that's big.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Now, everybody that's big now in that bitch in the
sleeping laid.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Out and he put folk studio rooms and that motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Went hard bro let sleep.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Had me ready to funk Joe up on the regular basis,
but it was cool. Who the other the nigga from Memphis. Uh,
they used to shoot young Joe Spike, Oh Spike, yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah have us. He used to be like Joe harder
than you. You know, Gucci will put a bad battery
in the niggas back to get some ship popping all day.
You're like, you're gonna get this nigga.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You know, I'm brown. See, I wasn't never.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
A young nigga about the video shit like.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Walk in like ship trash man trash. What kind of
cameras nigga leans is ain't even right man? This niggas
angles off.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yea for real, for real, real shit, real shit it's
still personal on the movie shit personal man. The niggas
ain't shooting shit, bro, the fun they do. Niggas just
got some money and planing. Bro.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You know, how does it feel to be like from
a whole nother city and to create another history?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Man?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That ship is so big, bro, Like like it only
dawned on me when like like my little bro chills
and hope on them and they kick it. They be like, Nigga,
you ain't from here, but it's like you from here,
this home like a motherfucker, you know. Being able to
like it's a hell of a feeling, bro, because I
got to go to the ninth ward, I got to
go to the nine and I got to go places
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niggas can't go that's even from here because of certain
you know, sets and all that shit. I was able
to be able to go in any neighborhood and like
you said, to be a part of history, to do
the Migos, the Gucci's, the Wokers, the Futures, the Jesus,
like a part of Atlanta hip history is a blessing.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
What's the most frustrating part about like being a direct.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
The passion, the love, the love that you have for
versus the money you get for it. Yeah, I think
that a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Of times what happens.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, No, it's real because what happens is a lot
of times is you could fall in love with an
opportunity and want to make it be more than what
they're giving you, and you don't have the means to
do so. So it puts you in a real space
of frustration, you know what I'm saying, because it's like, dang,
I can only do so much. But it was right,
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it is right. And the best videos was when I
ain't had no money, when I didn't have a budget
and it didn't get to, oh I need fifteen twenty bands.
I think that's when I made the coolest videos, you know,
because it was just like, oh, we're gonna do this,
Oh we're gonna do that, and.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Hang that motherfucker. You pull it on I think the time,
and you pull it and it come down slow. You know.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
It was a lot more creative thoughts put into it.
And I'm saying that the creativity leaves you just get
kind of comfortable, you know, and just know things that
you can rely on, you know what I mean. So,
like I said, if that passion ain't there like you
gotta be. That's why I like shit that I like like,
I gotta love it.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
How do your passion for for just the music industry,
like when you're producing and directing the video, to direct
the movies and right movies, how did they interfere with
like your personal life?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It fucks everything up because it's a balance. You gotta
be able to balance it all, you know what I mean.
And it's not a it's not a clock in gang,
you know what I mean, unless you're a privileged white
dude or something like this.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You got Gucci call one o'clock in the morning. Is
the video I.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Remember with Gucci card for the ship? What was that ship?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
The ship when he went that jeezy? We was the truth?
Just yeah, the truth. They called me and me and left.
We were smoking about nah North slobbing. I'm like this,
what what up?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I need you to shoot you right now. I'm like, bro,
for real, I got a hot one.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I want this ship out tomorrow. Well we gonna shoot that, bro.
We ain't got no locations or not. We're gonna ride
around the city and this ghost all right, fuck it, bro,
And that's what we did. So you know, It was
hard though. And it's funny that you say that though,
because and like I said, the woman she ended up
being my wife, but we ended up divorcing because of
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the pull of the industry. And I won't say it's
because of the industry. I say it's because of my
choice that I decided that I want this ship. I'm
going at it. You don't get it. I'm not a
nine to fiver, you know what I'm saying. And it's
an industry whereas that you pop if you've seen you
know what I mean. You don't get especially Yeah, in Atlanta,
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you can't just be like Stork, like Nigga, I'm him,
I'm boxed. You got no motherfucker nigga be at the club,
see you and you fucking around to get a deposit
right then and there in the club, see what I'm saying.
So you gotta be outside of you gotta be in
the mix. And that was just no good for you know,
the crib. She's a lawyer getting you know what I'm saying.
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So it just didn't work in that space. So, yeah,
it'll fuck your shit up. You gotta have balance. I
don't know nobody that's great at juggling it at all.
They could tell you they are, but I don't think so,
cause it just comes with too many ups and downs.
You're you're never one hundred percent with any product, product
that you're doing, or project. I'm sorry that you're doing that,
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you're shooting. Even when you finish the shit, you're still
working on it, you know what I'm saying. So you
inconsistent work mode, trying to make sure that everything is
in alignment so that it'll come out the proper way.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And then when you're almost done, now you're in the
perfectness state.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
And that's the worst part. You know what I'm saying.
I got a project I shot two years ago. That
shit should have been out, you know what I'm saying.
It'll be out this summer. But you know, like this
is indeed that it's like, motherfucker, put that shit out,
you know what I'm saying. But it's something I did
on my own, so it's just all that. But I'm
gonna let that shit fly.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
No for real.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
So you say false advertisement, that's one of the movies
that advertisement.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I did that in twenty eighteen. Shouts out to my
man Man, Shout out to my boy d Man Slick
rich Man. I ain't taught the d in a minute, man,
but he believed in me. I had this idea for
this movie. And it was different too, because it was
like a social conscious movie. It had gay people ended
and shit. And when you look at cricket and all
the word cricket did to that time in Atlanta was
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just nigga.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Robust, killed, thuggish, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
But I wanted to do something that set a different
tone and told a different story. It came out great.
It did pretty good, and it was false advertisement.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
It did good. I mean we got we won Black
Film Festival in Miami. You know.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It was their top selection at the time, so that
was good. It created a lot of stars. Mike blessed.
That's real big with Country Wayne Now, Mike Merrill, he's
on everything. Sean tell she was an actress. She the
chick to be dancing in the dresses. But her shit
is crazy. So it set the tone.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It got me.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It got me in my movie back real quick with
some money I didn't have, and God bless me with it.
Like the day before we had to shoot.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
So Blue Devils, you wrote that, right, I wrote Blue Devil. No.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
No, they played me how they played me, yeah, because
there was another promise. Nah, but I got love for
my peoples though. Nah, but it was supposed to be
you write it directed. It was that whole thing. And
then it got down to it and they was like,
well it's supposed to be, we're supposed to shoot a
certain amount of pages of day. We don't know if
you'll be able. It was just some cap shit whatever.
But I was still grateful and still grateful for the
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opportunity that came out a month ago.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Last month, you.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Ever read like in the music trying to shoot the
videos for a nigga like I just can't work with him.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
For certain people in the industry, Oh yeah, how to
turn people down before you know what I'm saying. They
had a lot of shit with them, you know, just
just didn't just the y It just it just didn't
for me. It didn't make sense like either was financial
of it. If the bag ain't right, I really don't
care to do it unless I fuck with you. It's
a lot of videos I shot in Atlanta just because
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I fucked with it. I got caught in the mix.
And man, Atlanta, give you what you give it. You
see what I'm saying. So if you tap in with
people and it's a genuine connection, it's just like that.
So sometimes you just be like, man, fuck, let's do it.
You know what I'm saying. And that's just how I
rocked a lot of things. But some people are taxing
the Some people just won't fuck with you know what
(26:22):
I mean, if it don't make sense and it just
seemed like it's a lot or I heard a whole
bunch of stories, and I think about my level of patience.
I'm a patient person, but I like to say I'm
patiently impatient, you know what I mean. So I could
be patient until you just goofy, goofy, goofy, and then
I lose it because I'm a real nigga.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I'm not like, oh I'm a collected Oh he's a
director collector. No nigga. I'm a nigga too, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
So when you playing, I get antsy and shit going on, bro,
like you don't respect my time, you know what I'm saying.
And then then you go to the deposit shit, and
niggas want to look at you a deposit, my fucking
and give me a deposit for twenty four hours motherfucker.
You get me a deposit to shoot for like eight
nine hours of video coming in five hours late.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
So, you know, try to stay away from people that
will put me in those type of predictaments, you know.
And that was just me really just protecting my people.
Like whoever my team was or whoever I'm shooting with,
I gotta think about them too when I think about
taking on a job.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Have you had to walk off one? I did. I
walked off on this Nigga's a start now too. Damn.
I'm sorry, bro, let's figure it out. But I was
this young kid man.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
His mother was just so fucking over the top, bro,
and we had everything going and she just kept coming
and kept going. And I never thought that I would
be this person, but I was like, man, fuck this shit.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Who was.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, I tell you off camera, but shouts out to
Black Elvis were putting it together. He'd know who I'm
talking about. Black Elvis put it together. It was a
good look. But the Mama was just a whole movie
and shit, you know what I'm saying. It was just
too much. And I was like, man, I fuck this
and fucked the back half of the money. In the
hot give.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So who youo direct?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
The OPI is like, just don't fuck me.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I would say, like my nemesis, or when I'm in
the game, I would have to say for a while
it was video god. I think that was probably the
only person who could compete with me, you know what
I'm saying. And I would say better at times like
he had he played he was nasty, He's still nasty.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeahsrespect Okay, now that was what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
But who was it anybody in the game that you
like draw inspiration from.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
The big boys, you know, like Dave Mad's and the
motherfuckers that's really really out there. It wasn't nobody that
was like here, no pun intended fuck with everybody in
the AAR.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I know I got love, but I.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Mean I just felt like, y'all niggas can't see me,
you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
That even at the video shoot, like you looking like
the rapper.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's what they used to say all the time. No
futures to say that like it in this bag, man,
you know what I'm saying. Nah, I'm a Detroit nigga. First,
you know, I like to dress and ship. I like
to be crispy. That's just you know that come with
the territory. But I knew that I had something with
doing the movie style videos and we called the movieos.
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I won't nobody doing that video, yeah nobody. Yeah, So
I just ran with it. And you know, it's a
competitive nature, just like any industry, any sport. If you
don't claim yourself to be that, people won't see that.
I made motherfucker see it. I made motherfuckers be like
I want a cricket video made intentionally.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
It was a psychological process that I intentionally did.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And it was your whole aura, like the way you
like like like you said, like you pull up making
a nigga comfortable, like niggas going to fix nation.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Like Manna come ship. No, for real, I gave a
lot of nigga sauce. They may not want to, you know,
admit it, but I'm sure I gave a lot of
you know, your beginning rappers, a lot of sauce.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
A lot of sauce. A lot of them who you
feel like ran out with the sauce.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Due.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I ain't gonna say nobody ran off with the sauce.
I just say that Cats embellished it and ticket you know,
and saw you know, Like damn. If this nigga could
be like that, I could go crazy because he and
this bitch I used to wear scarves and ships like
seeing my face, So you know, I ain't gonna say
I mean, I think I inspired Cats, That's what I think. Me.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Hey, who do who the who?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
The goat from Detroit? Oh and what aspect period?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Just like the first come.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
There ain't got to be no repen the goat like
that nigga all time goat from the city.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
If I had to say that, I mean, because there's
so many artists, it's so many different motherfuckers. I just
have to pull an old school card and say, like Mary,
call me young who.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You know what I'm saying, that's the marriage you gotta
look up.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Call me young Mayor call me okay, yeah, from the
Young Boys Incorporated, like the Curry Boys, real dope shit,
real gangster's, real street ship.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Our mayor was him?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Like when niggas was wearing driving the vets with the
top tens because DC trying to think they top tense. Nigga,
that's de track and cardis too I should have worn
some buffs. Cardis started in Detroit. I think they trying
to say they're just trying to go for this. What
they be trying to say, what city.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Said out here, niggas, They're trying to say it here
like no, nigga, no, we was wearing cardiak. We wasn't
wearing the buffs. Was't wearing the buffs.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I'm just keep it read like niggas was wearing it.
The wood frame, wood long time, the wireframe, the wood
with the goddamn long with the ship on the side,
like to the wood.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
But when he came with the buffalo horns, I first seen.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Him in the truck.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah, and with the diamonds in them that she come
from the truck a lot.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
You know. But no, but Marry Young he was just
he was a mayor, but he was gangster. He wo
buffs too. He all that called me home was a maniac.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I mean, because we used toll wear like the destroy
hats and ship back.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
In the day.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
He'll be wearing it like he was a real, real
true gangster. And he carried the city like a gangster
to like real mob ship. You know what I'm saying.
So that's who I would give, you know, the go
to war. It's a lot of It's been a lot
of great motherfuckers from the crib. I ain't gonna lie,
like hustling and music, you know what I'm saying. Because
I say am and then I say Royce. You know,
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I say Big Sean, I say Vessel. I fuck with Vesel.
Yeah hard, Vessel, real hard, you know GT. That's that's
like my nephew, you know what I'm saying. So it's
a lot of real ties when it comes to it.
Like I'm a Detroit nigga, but I'm also it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
He says, a bunch of goats, just in different aspects.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
In different aspects, yeah yeah, and like for like, like
I'm a part of Atlanta's hip hop history, just like
I am in Detroit. So in Detroit, I'm a part
of the hip hop history from the music aspect of
producing and making music and being a part of helping
a lot of the rappers get on and ship like that.
And then Atlanta from the visual so all life been
kind of.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Cool to shit. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Who the goat from a lima.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
We're talking multiple industries.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Just I'm saying like how you did the man first
and then in without most.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Damn Atlanta cold motherfucker man. Mm hmm, Damn, that's a
good one. I ain't gonna lie, bro. I'm not gonna
lie Bro. I'm gonna have to put Future up there,
Brot because yeah, because I watched the motherfucker from the beginning, Bro,
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and he.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Was saying the ship that he's doing that he watched it.
I'm gonna keep that.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Nigga is the the goat of manifestation.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Everything that Nigga said he was gonna do, he did.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I watched it, watched.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
It Gucci too, Gucci Nasty too. But Future just took
that bitch. He just got on that motherfucking went up.
And I would say that because they're both global, but
I would just say as far as the impact, as
far as branding and being able to appeal and work
in different sectors by using the musical aspect.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I think Gucci the most selfless artist I ever made
in my life. Like he don't he don't care about
putting on Nigga in position at all.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
If it was a Nigga, if now he to go
to that.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Shot the rip charge you up. He would charge you up,
like boy, I'll tell you what you hit Wop would
put you on. He would give you a shot. I
watched that man, man, I watched him give a million.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I was there when they gave bank money, uh Dolph,
they gave it back. Whatever I was, I was physically there.
I was there when he hey, this nigga right here.
He brought Thug and he's like the next big thing.
I was like, oh, okay, all.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Right, yeah, but I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
But yeah, you know when he played the Migos and
ship Hurricane Risks and I was like, Nigga, they sound
like you you know what I'm saying, Like they little
us and ship Scooter.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
So yeah, like that's the number one he should be.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He should he should be a big ass, and like
he should be him because Nikki like all that ship,
like he really really that bro.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
He just he just take a chance on a nigga, bro,
And I feel like a nigga like that to take
a chance on people is because I always wanted a chance.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
You get what I'm saying. He's probably been in position.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I can't speak for him, just saying like the selfless
that they nigga got, the nigga would call you at
the height of him, he.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
The biggest ever to be Like, Bro, what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Bro? You the ship?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
What you like? Charge you up?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Like that's rare?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Bro, I don't know. That's kind of Godism right there.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
That is.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
But it's too different. Like you said, it's two different.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, because Future put a motherfucker onto, but not like
how Gucci woull Gucci don't give a fuck. Gucci just
go put you with the sauce and everything and ship.
It's just too different. It's two different dynamics.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Take a nigga that like, Bro, I remember this dude.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
We met a nigga out of town, little Gleiche that
he from. Uh, I think you're from bottom or something.
Gucci this nigga to LA and put him on, Like Bro.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
You you like you gonna do that ship? Bro? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Nah shot out the man shots sop man. That nigga
made my life sweet. I came from Man. I love Gucci.
I don't give a fuck. Gucci always looked out for me.
I don't care. I always always looked out. We'll argue
about some shit. I don't agree about with some ship
we be those and those and then ship we'll be
kicking it.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
So I fuck a lot like the Long Way for sure,
for sure. So who the you say a video gud Yeah,
video God was probably in them and everybody else. Man.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
They was just trying to come up and sub part
and I had my way. And I only feel like
that because I had my way, like because Decatur. Then
he disappeared shortly after I got in the game. Motion
family wasn't motioning like that.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Were using a lot of the caterd in with Trouble
when he shot like a like seek some video for Trouble.
When trouephy it came out, we used the Kata day
for school.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, Decata Dawn, he was him.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
He's making he's making the MOVIEOS too.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Now, Yeah, he was not man. Decata Dawn was nice. Man,
he was nice. And I watched him. I checked him
out this ship.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I was like this, I'm taking his spot like that
was my whole thing, even with ge Visuals.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
They came to the building and ship I tried to
partner up with the name Randy and.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, but I told them when they came in the building,
I was like bro, y'all gonna let y'all y'all sucking
with me or not?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Like I was like, all right, I'm coming.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I don't think you slip for with my brother who
he need from New York. He shot my video. I
did a future that time, which one nice not nice
nice feeling.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Okay, I don't know if you're.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Talking about he was with Chico Chicos managing him at
the time.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Oh Marco the white boy. Nah, not Steve. What what's one?
Oh Marco? I ain't really get to know him like that.
The little Spanish dude. No, he wasn't Spanish.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Big black nigga used to wear the New York head.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Oh I don't know that nigga.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Oh Mark Diamond, Mark Diamond h Yeah yeah yeah man,
fuck Mark Dimond.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
In a good way and the good way.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Like I ain't got no malice or nothing like that.
But I'm just saying that I fuck that nigga. Like
on some Koli up.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Bron't remember you shot?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You're like, man, you used to let me shot that ship.
That ship man talented, talented for sure.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I just think, like you know, there's always somebody that's
gonna be that somebody like fuck that nigga type ship
and it just be shipped.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
It was hard to thoughs be you know, and then she.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Go motherfucking too. You know what I'm saying, because Chico
used to be my manager and ship.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Like, yeah, I know that's what I said. You Yeah,
that's what gave me.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
I love.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
You, ain't been back, but he can't want you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I was gonna surprise you on the last one y'all
just did last month one day. Tend to see or
some ship one of them, chata niggah.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
It was far.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
The last one we did was just in that we
about to do three in one day.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That's mean.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah, yeah, man, I said a nigga like yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Mark Diamond, we used to have a little beefs and ship,
you know, a little little not said said beefs and ship.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
My thing though a lot of niggas had a problem
because Cricket didn't touch a camera, you know what I'm saying.
So a lot of niggas you get that nigga, he'll
hold the camera cuz nigga, I'm a real director, motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Like the fu.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, you treat that ship like moves back then.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, the fuck you mean you gotta I gotta be
able to see. I can't see. I'm sweating and ship
chasing niggas. Now I'm not doing that ship y'all gonna
pay with it to tailor do it like this.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You know what I mean? It work, you know what
I'm saying. So, but no, I shout out to mart Diamond.
He did a lot of He did some good work. Man,
he put in some work. You know for sure?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Well who did who? Like you didn't get a chance
to work with that you want to work with?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
As far as an artist, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
It probably would have been like like like I love Kanye,
you know, a j would have been sweet, you know,
just somebody that's from a different vernacular. Atlanta filled me, man, like,
I ain't gonna lie. I worked with all the who's
just who in the A. So it wasn't really nobody
I wanted to work with that I didn't work with
because ship I was on fire, when Atlanta was on fire.
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It was the perfect storm. But yeah, if I could
have did something for like a gay or some shit
like that, that.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Would have been hard. That would have been real hard.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Or something for some of the artists as they got
into like their mole like little baby as a as
the big big little baby, or thug as a big thug.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I would have been fired too. Future shit and wop.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I think last thing I did for Gucci was a
money machine. That was the first. That's when he first
got skinny, him and him and Ross. I did some
shit for him and Ross Yeah was cool too.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Hey, looking back on like just your life period, what
you would have changed, if you can go change.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Some h.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I would have been a little bit different on the
scene as a director in Atlanta. I wouldn't have been
I was confident in cocky, but I would have toned
it down as far as my level of knowledge in order.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
To forty eight laws of power never outshine the master, right.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
So if I would have used that toolage back in
the day, a lot of things probably would have been
different for me.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
You know what I mean, because like.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Like shouts out to Fly Rich Homi kwantity, I mean,
thank god it's Friday.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I mean think it's a game. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Fly was yeah, Fly love Fly. I learned the very
important situation fucking with him, and it could have been
life changing. Had I just dialed in you know what
I mean. I started all the rich on me videos
and shit, and it was one video he asked me
to do something in the video and I was like, man,
but bro, but you know what I'm saying, Instead of
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been like, okay, you paying for it. It's your ship.
You're absolutely fucking right, you know what I mean. But
I was like, but no, but the look and it's
gonna be that, And I don't think this would.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Fit you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Why you see with ship like that, you supposed to
did it both and then compet Then.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Well, I was on fire.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I was in my head and we said, well, cocky bell,
cocky bell, fool because because I had me and flights
to kick on a regular basis, he was ship I had.
He had showed me a script for a movie. I
was on my way to shooting a movie very very
or early on in my career, fucking with him until
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I fucked that up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
So so now I like that, though, greeky, because there's
a kind of been another need would have made it
scene like dude some bullshit because.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Actable. Yeah, with that, we gotta learn, we gotta learn
to implement that. We gotta learn to implement that.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And I hope that that resonate for other people too,
because that's something that's keeping us apart. There's no accountability.
It's heavy for women, sorry ladies, but I love y'all.
But and it's heavy for men too. And it's so
silly because it's heavy for men and conversations that simple
like this, or you could just be one hundred and
air it out. You could be so one hundred that
you could reach out to that person and air that
shit out, because I have reached out to fly and
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aired that shit out.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Just let them know, Hey, bro, I just wanted to
apologize to you for some shit that happened many many
moons ago, just to let you know. I do understand
what changed the vernacular in our relationship, you know what
I'm saying. And had I been who I am today
would be different. But I ain't as past. But you know,
and and I wouldn't just say it was with Flyers
with it with a couple of other people, because, like
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I said, world Star shouts out to Big Homie that
Nigga was giving me a deal on a big on
a big blocks. I was producing them so much. I
have so much ship going. So yeah, if I could
change anything, I would change my level of assertiveness.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Hey, I got I'm gonna say say a word, and
you say the first thing come to your mind?
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Oh ship, Okay, you're in Nope?
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Ready, Nope, visionaire me storyteller.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Damn, that's crazy. I will say me.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Resilient.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Come on, bang what you want me to say? You
know all this ship y'all know, like when that's like.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Saying cricket, visionary, storyteller, resilient. I mean, I've experienced all
these things and it's so.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Like, bro, take your time, visionaire, Laric Matthews, storyteller, director, cricket.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Resilience.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
I hate to make it about me, man, but it's true.
It's me.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Creative cricket, cricket, cricket creek.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Universal thoughts. Creative, I say universal thoughts. Let's switch it
up a little bit. Passionate, Jesus Christ bank uh life
bode expression.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Arthentic mm hmmmm, you feel me authentic?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I would say genuine driven mm hmmm. Mindset, emotional, don't.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Skip pad that with cricket, don't stop.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
We're gonna say emotional intelligences.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
You feel.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Emotional, intelligent, cricket, Yeah, grounded me. I hate to kill us.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
I hope it wasn't supposed to be something else. But
those are a lot of great things that describe who
I feel. How I would describe myself.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Innovative, bank, hustler, bank, fearless, bank stop.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I'm just saying that we got it.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Let's uh, let's dwell on the.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Passionate part. Okay, how how much?
Speaker 1 (46:39):
How much?
Speaker 3 (46:41):
What percentage out of one hundred do you feel was work,
passion and just for the money?
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Well, it would be according to different times, but if
I just had to put it all in the bubble,
passion would probably be you said, passion work and or
how it breaks down. Now, passion across the board is
high for me. I'm a passionate person. If I believe it,
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I'm doing it. I'm driving as fuck. I'm gonna go
I'm gonna stay up all night and write. I'm gonna
go to the gym and workout. I'm gonna do all
that shit that I feel is gonna make it better me,
that's gonna elevate me, that's gonna take me to another level.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
So with that being said, I would.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Say passion is probably like across the board on all
that that you said, it's probably like seventy five eighty
because whether it's work, loving somebody or dealing with people
that I fuck with, I'm gonna be passionate and I'm
gonna give them the highest level of it. But I
won't have a lot of people in my space though,
so I don't have to output a lot, you know
what I mean, because my circle is real tight. Intentionally,
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I know a lot of people. I love a lot
of people, but it's it's it's a cap on it.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
You know what I mean. How important is that though,
to just like have a cap on your circuit?
Speaker 2 (47:58):
It's everything because early men used to just give with
no limit, you know what I mean. And I find
myself empty at times and nobody replenish me, and nobody
could replenish me, because it's for you to feel yourself right,
but it's also for you to know your limitations on
what you could give to other people if you're going
to be a facilitator of that for people. So if
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you're gonna be a person that consistently pouring the people,
you're gonna have to know when to dial back so
that you could reboot, recharge you, and you could get boomed,
so you won't go empty, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Oh yeah, I'm not going empty for nobody.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Did you ever feel yourself like your ship?
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Low?
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Hell yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Relationships, business ships, so all that I don't felt low
panic you panic?
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Hell yeah? Not in public? Nobody would know.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
People could never tell what I'm feeling, know how I'm feeling,
because I've mastered the art of that's just for me
to feel and deal with on my own, because I
don't nobody give a fuck past you. You could feel
like they do, and you can have that thought process,
and it probably is people who do care. But I
think that I'm a lot safer keeping myself in a
space where it's that I had to add here or
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address or fix my own wounds.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
You know, how did you shake up out of it?
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Though I'll tap out, I'll close off and won't be
around nobody. That's probably the best indicators. If you don't
hear from me, you don't see me, and shit like that.
But like I said, with my circle being so small,
people wouldn't know if they heard.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
From me or not. You know what I mean? Because
I still like I get on the phone, be like,
yeah it was popping bro. Hell yeah we getting on
got you? Hell yeah, say less. It's a dug.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
You know what I'm saying on my home you know
what I mean. So yeah, shaking back is just time solitude,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
And my Mama. I love my mama.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
I call my mom. We talked about everything for real,
for real, real shit. So what's some game that you
would give a young nigga trying to get and do?
Speaker 2 (50:02):
What you do? Now, do it yourself, do it the best.
Don't take no shorts. If you take any deals for anything,
people see you as a deal maker. And if that's
what you want to be, then that's what you do.
If you really want to succeed in growing and shit,
you educate yourself to no end.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Hands on.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
I don't care about school. I had a friend that
wanted to get in the film, just like me, and
he said, I'm gonna go to school. We both wanted
to go to full sell dope ass school that don't
even cost a lot, but you get a certificate in
like six months or something.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
And I was like, well, fuck it, you go do that.
I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
So when you learn that I'm gonna learn this. We
get together like Voltron, he ain't ever do shit with it,
and nothing ever transpired from it. I'm cricket shit ton
of videos, two billion views of or so you know.
And that's just from going after it, believing in myself
and doing it and don't be scared to lose, don't
be scared to fail. A lot of people are a
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dope quote, and I hope that will resonate with a
lot of people. It's sometimes when you're in the pursuit
of doing something, you find yourself or you're thinking yourself
to be stagnant, but in reality, you're just in a
space where most people quit, right, don't quit keep going
when you get to that point, you just you're just
processing everything. And a lot of people get to a
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certain point being like, man, this shit ain't doing none
of that, and they just stop, you know what I mean.
And you was right there on the custom of something great.
That's doubt, you know what I'm saying, And you can't
have doubts. I'm a godfearing man, so I believe, and
he done. He don't prove faith to me more than
one time, so it's kind of hard for me not
to believe that things could be with their.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
Have some oil. Mm hmm. You can't even see it.
Oh it's a mustard boy.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
It's all of faith you need.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Damn. You can't see that boy for real, for real.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
If you believe, man, you could do things you couldn't
even like even with the fitness, Like, man, I want
no workout nigga.
Speaker 3 (52:01):
I was a skinny, fat nigga. You know what I'm saying,
Like it was you know, like it wasn't in my head.
But then at one point I was like fuck that
I want.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I want.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
I don't want to die all fucked up. I don't
want to be all been over and ship and ship
like that. You know, I want to do something to botty.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
What can I do?
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Take your ass to the gym, workout lock in and
it turned out to be a great place to think,
get my mind right, release, release stress, create, be man.
The best ideas came from being in the gym.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
Come in time. Did you quit to yourself? But a
million times?
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Like but never could stop, like physically stop over this
ship yeah yeah and be right back on the computer
and ship. So you know what I'm saying, like, just
don't stop man, for real, whatever it is, don't stop.
It's a lot of people out here selling a lot
of shit. It's kind of hard to find somebody to
solid for a mentor because everybody is doing some money.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Ship. The world is in the space of where it's at.
It's just is what it is is.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
YouTube is always gonna be good because it don't cast
ship and you can learn as much as you can
and hands on. And the last thing I would say
is figure out something people are gonna need in the
future and beat them there. You know what I'm saying.
Just figure out ship that niggas need and be like
niggas ain't thought about that, and bus your ass to
do it, you know what I mean? Because necessities is
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how the world run.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
For real.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Appreciate you putting up on What's next? Real man, about
to shoot a TV show? I got a bunch of
shit coming up. Honestly, man, I'm about to shoot a show.
I ain't gonna even put the cat on the floor.
I wait, well, I got a controversial bio pick that
I'm about ninety percent finished writing.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
It's gonna tell the city up. It's gonna be great.
I can't wait. Yeah, it's gonna be fun to do.
It's gonna people hi get me. Oh hell yes you
it would be crazy for you not to be in it.
It's a great as I mean, it's a great ass
Atlanta story. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And you know,
being that I've been here for over twenty years, I'm
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a I'm an at alien all day long. You know,
so shit, I understand this, motherfucker. I love this place.
Speaker 4 (54:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
I'm glad you had me on here and I can
get you on my It's called Risk it All. Your
Risk it All is a talk show just to inspire
people in different industries. You know, we want to talk
about what was that moment where you took that pivotabal
move and took a chance on something that worked out.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Incredibly successful for you.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
You know what I'm saying, because I'm I'm an exude
positivity because that's what it up over Theeah, We're gonna
do that. So yeah, movie coming out, TV show, we're
shooting here. We're gonna be shooting at probably the next
two months. Everybody will know about it. I'm sure the
talk show Risk it All and man just being a
great human being. Man, you know what I'm saying, being
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a great fucking human, you feel like you're at peace.
I'm at peace like a motherfucker, and it's been It
took a long time to get here. Yeah, it took
a long time, a lot of work. But if I
knew some of the things I know now, then I
would have been that piece a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (55:04):
But they wouldn't hear the same. It wasn't you gotta
go through agony to even be able to enjoy.
Speaker 3 (55:09):
The peace where there's no pain.
Speaker 4 (55:11):
Yeah, because you if you'd have been peaceful off the rip,
then when you hit agony, neil jump out the building.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
All day long, all day long. I'm glad I had
the pain that I had. I'm glad I went through
the hardships, the hurts.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
That ain't much. Like I said, I would change that
one thing, man, I said. I read.
Speaker 4 (55:26):
I listened to the ship every morning. Man, I read
this book. It was like, you can't got damn. You
can't be wise without being a fool. First boy, I've
been a fool for the business women. God damn, I've
been a fool.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Not no more.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah, yeah, scholar at this point, you know what book?
What book? You know? We do book of the week
right quick. I think a good book to read far
as what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
I think everybody, if y'all haven't seen like, check out
a toomic habits if you haven't had that. If you
if you a spiritual enlightened person and you want to
challenge yourself, I say, it's a book called The Abundance.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
The Abundance this big.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
It's not about the book. It's the contents. It's a
it's a forty day tapping and it's forty days. You
have to recite some things. It's good if you want
to be a person to manifest things and have a
closer connection with understanding the omnipresence of God and things
of that nature, and like.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Where the source of things really come from. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
The Book of Abundance is magical. It's cheapest, shit, it's little.
It's been around forever. Not too many people know about it.
But check that out, man, and do that forty days.
And when you do the forty days, it's ten things.
It's ten things you have to say, and you have
to do it over forty days. You can't miss the day.
If you miss a day, you.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Start your whole cycle over so it's real time, set
your own time.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
You got to say it every day at the same time.
Gotta say it, and you gotta write. You gotta write
something behind it, what you felt from it. And when
you go back and read it.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
It's so crazy because you say one thing ten times
and you write something. Every time you write it, something different,
you know what I mean, And then when you go
back and you reflect on it, you'd be like, holy shit.
You just see how much your mind process things and
how much you change and your alignment. Like I just
feel like like I feel magical, Like I'm not gonna lie.
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Like it was a movie player was supposed to happen.
Some shit went wrong. I sensed that it would be wrong.
I told my partner, if the shit go left, we
gotta walk away, no questions asked.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
You know, they was waving a half a ticket that shit.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Hey, I need a half a ticket even if I'm
getting a piece of you know what I'm saying. But
it wasn't right, and I was like, bro, we gotta
walk away. He was like, criick you sure. I was like, bro,
spirit told me, we gotta walk away. Bro walked away.
Same week, get a call from somebody else. Following that
call led to a meeting the following week, I went
and did an awards show, met the person I was
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supposed to meet with at the award show. Not was
it supposed to. It just happened right, had the meaning
with him beautiful, just had another meaning last week with
the people for fun and they love everything. So it's
just when you when you when you aligned and you
tapped into your spiritual source. I don't care what it is, God,
a lie eb z, I don't care who you believe in.
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Just believe in somebody and stick to it and around it,
get rooted, you know what I mean. And it just
shows how fast that my level of belief turned it around,
Like I ain't even miss a beat, you know what
I mean. Were supposed to start shooting in June first,
that's gonna be a couple months, but now it was
going straight to a network, you.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (58:42):
So when they say, hey, may be delaying you for
a bigger play, believe it if you believe. It only
worked for people who believe. That's the other thing about
spirituality and manifesting. It only worked if you believe.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Fact, if you don't believe and you just reading shit
just to be Oh, I'm intellectually smart.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
I can talk about that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
But if you're really into it and you believe, and
that's a part of your you know, your every day
your habits. Like I get up, I don't touch no
phone and ship when I'm first wake you. I don't
funk all that. I do my little bible, my read
my little I got this appas called Blessed. I talk
to it and asked me questions of how I feel.
I tell it how I feel, you know what I'm saying,
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and didn't print out a prayer.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
You know what I mean. It's fires. Fuck. I'm on
the thirty five days free right now too. But I
just do those things.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
Man, I do me first before I give to the world,
because it's gonna pull it and take all day long.
Speaker 3 (59:34):
That's all I know how to do. Tell them for
director Cricket. On the ground man, I'm just on the ground.
TikTok too.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah, I'm just saying I gotta get me a t
t I've just been throwing shit on that. You know
what I'm saying. I really you know all that ship
to me is cool. It's it's the hey I'm here,
I'm still alive type of shit.
Speaker 3 (59:54):
You know what I mean. But uh, it's definitely weakened
the connections of us as people. I appreciate you pulling
up my brother.
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