Gatekeeping, Leadership, and Surviving the Music Business with Ray Daniels

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Peace to the plan. This Charlamagne to God.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Here Before we get into today's episode, we've got to
celebrate the Black Effect Podcast Network. It's turning five years old, man,
five years of powerful voices, unforgettable moments in the community
that keeps growing. This is the power of the platform.
Now let's get into it.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
It gets no better than this.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
You are now in June to perspect Us with big bang,
Bang bang.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Let's get straight to it. So here's my quote. Consistency
is everything. If I give you a penny today and
you double it in fifteen days, you're gonna have one
hundred and sixty three dollars. But if you double it
in thirty days, you gonna have five point three million.
Most of us lose because we getting that first fifteen
days and only see one hundred and sixty three dollars.
Money's on the back end. Just keep working, don't do

(00:47):
it for the money, do it because you love it.
I'll be my quote.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Welcome to perspective you know what I'm saying. Welcome to
Perspective today. As you see, I got the legendary Ray
Dayes with me. What's uping, my brother?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
And I'm happy to be here. Man, my nigga banking
in the green looking like money. Let's go. I'm hoping
you said some of that my way. I said that
energy my way. Let go. It's pure. I always sit
out with you, man, always. I did my first high
show with BEG, so we got a different relationship no
matter what I was high in public with him. First,
Let's go, man. I always check people mental and see
what they are mentally, spiritually. You know what I'm saying,

(01:18):
how you feeling. I'm amazing. The reason why I'm amazing
is because I've been on the journey learning how to
be the learning how to master this version of myself now,
and I found some people who really been helping me
with it. And it's like it's like somebody gave you
the secret of life, and you're like, damn, that's how
it works, and I'm just watching it play out. So man,

(01:39):
I'm just excited.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's why all that's good is happening. I was I
had to figure out who I was and what I
was doing, and most of the time, it's hard to
see a giant in the mirror because you can't tell
if you're a giant you're looking at yourself. So I
just needed somebody. I got with some people that really
helped me see like the giant that I wanted to be,
and I've been going after it and it's been like crazy.
Everything's been working for me lately. It's kind of scary.

(02:01):
I ain't gonna lie to you, bro man about So
about eight months ago, December third, I retired from music.
I officially officially, Well, we get to it, I'll tell
you more. So I retired on December third, and it
was just because I don't understand why niggas lied to
each other. So it's like niggas in the music business.
Was I have friends lying to me. I was like,

(02:23):
I need to quit. So I quit. So now I'm like,
what are you gonna do? What is quit? Look like
you know what, I got friends in different worlds. If
they call me, I'm gonna be like, like you playing golf.
It's like so one of my homegirls was like, Yo,
I'm in town. Put up on me and my friends.
I'm an Atlanta nigga. You know we're gonna say I'll
be there with wing going right man. So shit happened. Man,
I got caught up with the kids, right. I actually

(02:43):
went and I was talking to these people, and you know,
they was asking me all these questions and then come
to find out that they worked with Oprah, Barack Obama
and you know, all these other big people. And I
was like, can you teach me what they because they
know something like we don't know. And they started showing
me it and it was just like, man, life has
been incredible, but it's enlightening. It's like, you know, life

(03:06):
is like for me now, it's like being a real man.
When you see an animal get eaten, you know, the
natural inclination is to help the animal, right, but that's
mother nature. That's how Mother Nature made it. I get
out the way now. It's like sometimes you might have
a friend where you're like, Yo, this nigga, If this
nigga just get on his shit, we could go to
the top. Nigga. I just cut them niggas. Now they
got to go because what I had to learn was

(03:27):
that they were holding me back. Like this is what
they taught me. I just give it to you. Everybody
is everybody goes through seasons, but winter, most of us,
most people in the hood are in winter. You in winter,
winter is cold. You know, niggas ain't outside it's nothing.
But what happens in winter for the earth is things
have to die. Why do things have to die? Because

(03:49):
God has spring coming? And that's what I'm gonna give
you more. Most of us have blessings in spring, but
we can't get the spring because we're stuck in winter
because we're holding on the things that we have to
actually let coo see what I'm trying to say. So
when I start letting things die around me, new things
start becoming and coming around me. Yeah. So when I so,
now I quit music, and now of a sudden, I'm

(04:09):
talking to these people and they're helping me with my stuff.
And I'm like, so I came back from music. I'm
just I came back like a month ago. But I
but when I quit, I really quit, Like it wasn't
like I was half assed. I'm like, I ain't in
this shit no more. I ain't going out. I'm gonna
hang out with people that's not the business. And you
start realizing how fucked up our worlds are, how cutthroat
it is, how like everything ain't that cut throat. Bro

(04:30):
like niggas is out here really getting money and not
fucking sleeping with one. I open you know what I'm saying.
That's why we was talking about nah niggas. Niggas out
here really risk and not sleeping when I open. That's
because they allowed shit around them to die that needs
to die, and the ship that needs to grow, they
put the water on that.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
And that's why I'm at. So life's good. So what
about the podcast journey? How this been for you?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I'm gonna ask you how that's been for you kinda
because uh, it's uh people asking me my podcast. What
I tell you. In the podcast world, it's like the
songwriting world, right, And I noticed because I'm in that.
If there's a if, the if podcast economy is a
billion dollars, the top one percent is making nine hundred

(05:16):
and fifty million of it, right, the other ninety nine
percent is making the fifty million in fighting over. So
like you got some podcasts making twenty million a year
and then Joe making twenty Professor Galloway is making twenty
million a year, then you got the rest of us.
So I'm a businessman first, like I'm not a podcaster,
Like I'm a hustler, like I gotta keep the lights on.
So for me, when I went into podcast face it

(05:37):
was like nigga, y'all was ready on fire. That's why
I'm gonna thank you personally, because you the biggest voice
in the city and you sat down with Mega. But
I'm just saying, like, Nigga, that's like future giving a
young nigga a verse my nigga, Like that was big.
So for me, I start looking at the I got
into it like kind of when I want to say,
the money was being made. So I've been trying to

(05:57):
figure out how to grow in it. But I think
is dying. I think the podcast face is dying because
the same way music is dying, because too many people
want to do it and I'm not here to discourage
nobody from doing it. Like nigga, if you wanna, I
think everybody have a pod. But I think that the
perception of podcasts need to change because a podcast is
just a way of communicate your thoughts. Nigga, If you

(06:20):
want to sell something, what's better to do with a podcast?
It broughts if somebody wanted to If my kid came
to me and said I want to be a sports
agent something that I don't know nothing about, I'm gonna
tell them to start a podcast and if you sports agents,
now you got a network, right, even if you getting
three views? Who cares nobody. There's no reason for someone
like that statue to sit down with you to talk
for an hour unless it was something in it from

(06:42):
them hands the cameras here, I'm gonna send it to
my followers. You get more clout. But I just think
that the podcast face is like figuring itself out. So
in the meantime, I've been trying to carry myself like
a hybrid between podcasts and streamers. So it's like I'm
a shrink. So I stream the Radar Report every day Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
and then I give my interviews to other people. How long?

(07:05):
How long do you do the stream shit? About two hours.
It's the best part of my day. It's the best
part of my day because it's you, it's me, it's
the whole. Like these guys are my little crew. It's
like we sit in the room, we talk about culture
like and it's good having young voices around because you
know they looking at it. So I get to educate
them and they're like, yo, such a social hater. I'm like,

(07:25):
he's not a hater. You don't know the story let
me tell you the story. So it's been doing great
and it's two aspects to it. So I record it
live and then I let the team edit it up
and put it out. So the added values if you
want to fuck with me, you can watch me live.
You don't get every you ain't gonna get no edits
no nothing, and then I put the show out. But
like I like every time I go live, I get

(07:46):
about one hundred and fifty subscribers on YouTube. Like every
time I went to TikTok, I got like twelve thousand
people watching just yesterday, and I think I had like
three hundred followers just going live. You can stream on TikTok.
Man bro TikTok. I don't know what algorithm that what
she want to do. Nigga TikTok is the new infomercial.

(08:08):
I don't know what they those eyes are over there,
they got all the eyes they get. I'm telling you
it's TikTok is interest based. But dog I have like
we be having like six seven hundred people at the
time watching, just like who are these people just with us?
So it's that part and then so I stream that
and then I put this stuff out later and then
I mean later, and then I do interviews, and I'm

(08:28):
really in an experiment. I'm in a social experiment, like
I'm trying to figure out, like like Beger, if I
could do this ship for the rest of my life.
I was just talking to shut like, if I could
do this shit for the rest of my life and
make it no, I could sit in this chair and
my family straight, why would I move? But outside, it's
crazy the shit changes. So nigga, you might be up
and then another nigga passed you cause you're thinking you up.
So you gotta always come with that hunger, that nigga

(08:49):
when the mic is in front of me, I'm gonna
pull up. I'm gonna do my thing and yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Hey, what's your earliest memory of being like coming out
the poor hustling, Like what was your first nigga?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I used to pass out flyers at the discount mall
for DJ Goldfinger on old National Okay head. He paid us.
I think he paid us ten dollars a day and
we had to sit out there for two or three
hours and he would take us to That's how I
see the city. So he would take us to five points.
I would go to five points where wherever DJ gold

(09:21):
Finger was he would take us. And if he took
us other places, he would pay us. You know, nigga,
I was I didn't even ask my mom. I'm like,
I'm just going with this, dude, I don't know, all
the way to the Buckhead, all this downtown to pass
out flyers. But that's the first thing. And I did
it because I wanted to get me and my brother
haircut because my mom was one of my moms was like, yo,
step dad gonna cut it and he would fuck our shit.
So and by the way, I was like, he ain't

(09:41):
gonna cut mine, he ain't gonna let me cut my
little brother. So I used to go hustle to pass
out flyers. And then when I when I realized I
was hustling for haircuts so crazy you say that. Then
I'm like, I realized you could pass out fly you
could sweep, sweep for tips in the air, and the
barbershop and they cut you. They cut you for free.
So I started sweeping and the barbershop getting free hair cut.

(10:01):
You know. You know niggas Atlanta with jone yr ass
out of your hair, Now, nigga, that's the nigga you
gotta you can't have a nappy hair, nappy head, dirty
sneakers you are, You're gonna have the hardest time of
your life. So I had to get my haircut at least.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
That's how I started wearing a ball head at thirteen.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Real.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh yeah, because my grandma used to cut my hair, nigga,
and she feel like, I ain't want to hurt up
feeling going no where. Els I was like, just cut it,
ball you a good nigga, Joydan.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah. My stepfather was like, YO, want to cut you
all hair?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Now?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I like it, but you know, they professionals. So how
did that shape you? Like, being able to hustle early on?
How did that shape your mentality? It being so being
from Atlanta was better for me because I lived in
New York's house twelve. So you know, a lot of
controversy around where I'm from. I say I'm from Atlanta,
right I left. I moved to Atlanta when I was twelve,

(10:49):
and in New York it was like, you know, like
everybody around me was hustled, but it was drug dealing,
Like everybody was selling drugs. When I got to Atlanta, nigga,
my friend's parents had jobs like I didn't know no
had a job, and no adult had a job in
New York. Everybody was on welfare and food steps. I
came to Atlanta, and niggas got jobs and I'm like
and two parent households. I'm like, and they ain't. Like

(11:11):
I realized some bank, Like I ain't gonna lie bro
Like I be thinking about myself a lot, Like think
to myself a lot, because I always tell people, get
to know yourself. Most of us are fucked up out
here because we don't know who we are. Like we
be mad about shit, but you mad about some shit
your mom told you be mad about when you was twelve,
You still mad about that at thirty seven. Like sometimes
I be mad about some shit and I'm like, Ray,
why are you mad about that? Because he did? Yeah,
but do you really care? He really like? Would you like?

(11:35):
And it's like nah. So I always tell people get
to know yourself. So I came to Atlanta, and the
one thing I've noticed I've been searching for my entire
life bank is been stability. Like we got ran. We
didn't get ran out of the projects, but like we
basically ran out the projects. Like my uncle was making
so much money. They tried to kill our family. He
got us the fuck out of there, Like it was

(11:55):
like every my entire life was watching my back. And
I was like, and I look at my kid to sixteen,
this little nigga, handsome. I bought him a new car,
he got nice clothes. I'll just be jealous of. I'm like, man,
you don't even worry about what stability feels like. You
don't even think are we gonna have lights next week?
I thought like that. So to answer your question, nigga,
me me hustling at thirteen is the reason why I'm

(12:18):
able to be a millionaire today because it taught me
at thirteen. And the earlier you learned this, the more
successful you're gonna be. Is nobody owe you shit and
ain't nobody coming to save you fat, And no matter
how much you complain and how much you're mad at
the world, nigga, it doesn't matter. Feelings has never paid bills,
only real shit. So for me, I just got out.

(12:39):
I just got out my head and I was like,
I'm just gonna think the way I'm just gonna think.
I didn't even know how to think. I was just honestly,
I was like I'm just gonna study greatness. That was
my I guess that was my yellow brick road, Like,
who's great. That's why I had to know. You had
to know everybody, as might call me Forrest Gump of
the music business, because I'm like, Bank don't even know
I was. I remember he was working with Candy One

(13:00):
in the studio and Bank, I guess Johnny and them
owed you some money, and he was like, man, what
my goddamn money lead. I'm sitting nigga, you sitting on
the floor, I'm sitting right across you, and it's just
me talking to each other. But I'm right there. So
I've been around this shit. But like, what I've always
focused on was greatness. Cause it's like that nigga get
money and I'm watching how he getting his money from
these people. Sometimes sometimes you can't be afraid to say, hey, man,

(13:21):
what the fuck is my money? I've never seen that
in the music business to you. On god, a nigga,
I ain't leaving his motherfucker to y'all. Give me what
y'all owe me. And I'm like, okay, that's how you
talk to niggas and they owe you money. Okay, It's
like the streets. Yeah, so for me. So for me,
it's always been studying greatness, watching the people who won.
Like you might not know Kobe, but you can watch

(13:42):
Kobe practice and be like, damn, he take that serious.
He takes basketball more serious in all his peers, and
that's why he has five championship. So you start understanding, like,
you gotta take this serious, gotta take like nigga, you
gotta be on time. Bank told me be he three, Like,
I take what I do serious because this is a
second career for me, and if I don't treat it's
like my wife. I gotta treat this like my wife,

(14:03):
like I treat music. I tea like my wife. I
treat a side chick going out like a side chick
with shit hit the fan, wife go out like a
wife or shit the fan. So I gotta treat this
shit like my wife. So that's how I'm doing podcasts,
That's how I'm doing all this. I'm just treating it
like it's the greatest gift God gave me, and I
just want to honor it. By now, when you was
out there, we weren't tripping with I'm asking Shad a
hundred questions like we ask you a question, like we

(14:23):
rookies like teach me because I'm not afraid to learn
from someone who's been around greatness, and most of us
are intimidated by greatness because let me tell him something,
Greatness will never laugh at you for trying real shit.
Only people that if you're worried about people laughing at you,
only people gonna laugh at you is poor people who
haven't tried. A nigga that tried is never master. He
gona probably help you get up boom. That's why I said,

(14:45):
sometimes you got to just do it and let God
work and be like, damn, it does work because sometimes
you in the hood, you don't think this shit work
for you. Man, that's good for them, ain't gonna never.
I used to think that's never gonna be for me. Never.
I'm never gonna have that, like my nigga, and I
love you that you have it, and I want it.
But yeah, like, damn, man, you lucky. Your dad gave
a fuck when you was a kid. Your dad knew

(15:07):
what he had to do. My dad was on drugs.
He didn't understand it. I can't, but I can't be
mad hi because he was a great man. But I
still got to take that in perspective. So I tell everybody,
shit is easy, man, Life is easy when you realize
no one is coming to fucking save you. And we
got a flat tire, we can sell on the road
for three hundred fucking days, or we can get out
this motherfucker and try. You ain't never changed one need
that vibe. Let's let's YouTube it, nigga, Like it's just

(15:29):
life is about trying. If you try, life is trying.
If you try, everything else comes. That's what I had
to learn. That's what I know real that's what I
know too, though. And once you know what, you feel unstoppable, right.
And the niggas see you smiling and they be thinking
you a nigga smiling because he up that nigga smiling,
Because no, I'm smiling because I'm learning something that if
I would have known twenty years ago, I would have
been smiling. Then I just didn't know it, nigga. So

(15:52):
matter of fact, you should be asking me how you smiles?
What do you know? That's really what it's about. So
for me, it's like, I just wish that niggas my
dream for the world, that every nigga just tries one
day like my goal. Just everywhere I go, I'm gonna say,
I want to make effort cool. We're the only community
what effort is laying. No.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
We the on the community that got more excuses than effort.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Exactly, he won that dog. Let me tell you I
saw something that change my life. They said, the only
difference between extraordinary and ordinary is the word extra. Just
give it a little extra and you'll be extraordinary. That's
all you gotta do in life. You want to be ordinary,
do what everybody else doing. If you want to be
the only difference between extraordinary and extra extra extraordinary is

(16:36):
the word extra. Just give it extra and you won't
be ordinary no more. Now you're extraordinary. Most niggas just
don't try. And my point is is because in our community,
effort is not cool. Pick me niggas, Oh, pick me nigga, Like,
no nigga, he's trying to be seen like, let effort
be cool because we're losing without it. We are cool

(16:59):
on ourselves. Got niggas cool you The streamers done took over.
If we're being honest, the streamers done took over the rappers.
Just like you see me on stage, I'm that nigga
streamers like, why should do everything I'm doing. I'm coming,
That's what I'm coming. I'm streaming. I'm coming. I'm coming
because we want to win. I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
My wife was just saying this shit this morning, like, man,
we gotta get us a stream man.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
We be let giddy votes out like we being talk
too much shit to each other. But now of that,
just imagine you going to the grocery store like niggas
want to. There's you exposing that part of you inspire
so many niggas to be like because they like Because
the problem for us black men is we have to
see ourselves in a picture. We don't think the pictures

(17:37):
for us right when we see we have to see
ourselves in a picture. So for me, I'm I'm out
here showing you another picture of what a black man
lives like right same with you. So for me, we
gotta show more this the show black men. Nigga, you
could be yourself. I love you so much for how
you nigga you have. You don't even understand. Nigga, you
do more for Atlanta than Mayor Andre Dickens. My nigga, huh, bro,

(17:58):
let me tell you why let me tell you why.
Listen to me. Let me tell you why because Andre
Dickens And by the way, shout to the Dre that's
my that's my guy. Yeah. But Andre went to Georgia Tech.
He's an extraordinary nigga. He was, He's an extraordinary brother.
He went to Georgia Tech. He went to he from
the West Side. He you went to Georgia Tech. How
many niggas do you know that you went to high

(18:20):
school with that went to Georgia Tech. That's some super
niggash with our basketball exactly. So my point is like,
he's a super He's a super brother. He went to college.
He knew he was going to be the mayor. Thirty
years ago, we were just surviving. So now nigga look
at him and be like, man, I'm proud of Shorty,
but they look at us, but I could be like

(18:42):
Shorty yeah. So that's why I'm like, we got to
show these niggas that, because if we don't show these
niggas what it looked like to be just a regular
cool ass black man, they won't think it's nothing for him.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
And we got to show these nigga that it's okay
to not be to not adapt and just be you see,
that's my whole ship exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Everything that we do.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Bro like hiking niggas look at that shit like hate
me what but this shit cool? Now we got three
four people out that motherfucker by the way you wanted
to do it. That's why I want people to understand, nigga,
what do you want niggas to do? Why are you
talking what he got niggas doing? What do you want
them to do?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Get them to do something then, Like that's my point,
Like I want you to not I want you to
get I want you to watch Ray and Bank and
get the fuck up and be like I'm about to
go get it. That's what I want these niggas because
I know, because I know Atlanta. To me, the biggest
detriment to us is that out of townents could come
in here and they bring that I'm about to get

(19:37):
it and Atlanta niggas like cool, good for you shot it.
Like Atlanta ain't got no haters. Niggas, Like I tell you,
I'm like each other. Now we will hand in each other.
But what I mean by like, but we're gonna hate
on each other. Like what I mean by that, it's like,
ain't no Atlanta nigga jell us of you because you
got something, you know. I mean like like we're in
the project, Nigga. We nigga, We having the time of
our life in the project. Them niggas a Burban kids,
them nigga nigga, we know we are. It's like the

(19:59):
movie atl You knew who the rich kids was, but
you weren't hating on them. You ain't want to beat
the shit out of the exactly that their business. So
it's just it's just a different way we think here.
But we gotta we gotta make these young niggas that
went to Banneker. Like when I tell people I went
to Banker Bank Bannaker, I was at a restaurant. You
appreciate this. I'm at a restaurant, eat one of them

(20:20):
nice ass restaurants. Some black ladies. We all wait for
a valet and they're like, you know, like you know,
you speaking nice summer night and and I'm like, you know,
they're like you guys from I'm like, we're from here
where we teachers. They go. We teachers in Fulm County schools.
I'm like, what I went to open campus, nigga, ain't
looked at me like, what the fuck are you doing that?
You you here working on valet parking cars. I'm like, no,

(20:41):
I want to open campus. So now you start understanding,
like people look at you like, how the fuck did
you become anything? Going to I tell people, I had
a daycare center in my school. We had a daycare
center in my school. Nigga, I had a real police
office in my school. Kids having kids. I went to
the school with if you got pregnant and you had
to sit out for four months, you went to open
campus to catch up. So when I tell her I

(21:02):
went to open campus, They're like, open campus. How has
you become something? Bitch? What are you talking about? Like
a nigga ain't like like you know what I'm saying.
I want Atlanta niggas to know, bro, if you can
get up if them water boys, if you can be
on a corner cell of water, you can build a
real LLC business. My niggah, they just but it's the presentation.
We're not taught presentation because we niggas, we don't understand's
why we got to show them presentations. Hey, nigga, I

(21:25):
move as myself baked, don't fucking when you don't golf.
It don't see Bank talking like Carlton Banks talks. That's
my point. We got to show young black men that
there's a cool way of being yourself and loving your
wife and loving your kids and handling your business and
still getting high having the time of your life. My nigga,
that's what you want to do, but you handle your
shit first, black man. That's what I'll be on. Boy nah,

(21:47):
that's real shit.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I want to go back to the music industry, Like
when did you know that you had a you can
identify hits.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I didn't start noticing that until I picked so so
I was. I got the music business five, I got
my first I didn't really feel like I was like
I was just I was scared and instability right like,
I'm just nigga. I'm getting checks here, making two hundred
thousand here, three hundred thousand this year, and and I
was I was getting I was hustling and making checks.

(22:19):
But I felt like I'm missing something like like it
goes back to the black man, Like you'll see a
white man at a desk with his kids coming in
his wife on the death I don't see no niggas
like that. So I had to I had to do
that ship myself basically, and and for me and the
the question you asked about the music business, what was
the last question? Oh, let me tell you. I started

(22:40):
working for La Red and I would argue with that
nigga every day, every check I play my record, why
they ain't a hit? Not a hit? Because this not
a hit? Because that then you start understanding. Then then
I remember, he would be like, the hook, the hook
is the hit. I'm like, Then I played them. Then
niggas in Paris don't have a hook. And at the
time that shit was big. I was like, niggas in
Parison have a hook and then he goes to hook

(23:02):
is So you know, you just start pointing out A
hit is something identifiable, that chain is a hit. A
hit is something that people see and say, what's that?
What'd you get that from? Because they want something like that.
So for me, I look at a hit record as
a song that belongs in as many moments as possible. Right,
So like R Kelly's biggest record is I believe I

(23:25):
could fly like nigga. If you are trying to inspire
to be something nigga, what we say I believe I
could fly. I believe I could touch the sky. Think
about it every night and day. It's like it works
because I can make it a conversation that feeling in
your booty might not work tomorrow. I might not be
feeling it. I might not have a bits booty to
feel on right now. Nigga, I need to be something play.
I believe I could fly. I hate I use kills

(23:49):
as an examplecause niggas gonna eat me up. But believe
I can fly. Nigga, he believed it. And by the
way we sung that ship would a word for word.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
But yeah, hey, what about gatekeeping? Do you think is
Do you think gate keeping in the industry is real?
I think gatekeeping is real. I think gatekeeper needs to
come back. I think the reason why the industry sucks
is because nobody's gatekeeping the gate keep Listen, okay, back in, Nigga,

(24:16):
I'm gonna ask you a question. When you put out
your record, Nigga, it was work. You had to get
the DJs, you had to go outside, touch niggas, niggas
Johnny Ca Bell, gotta gotta do show. They don't know
you got perform in front of It's so much work
that goes into what we did. Now, look at today
today you got artists that are just like they anybody

(24:41):
in their mama.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Somebody on Afghanistan right now can upload the song on
Spotify and we can hear it today. Who is he?
By the way, how do we separate yours from them?
There's no green check, there's no blue checks like that,
Like nobody goes to Spotify and be like blue check,
Like how do we IDENTI I who's the stars and
who's not? So if you pay attention to only people

(25:03):
that are still winning, other stars or a nigga might
break through it a moment, a nigga might get a
hit record and then you're like, okay, what they gonna do?
And then you look and you're like, you ain't got
it this somebody else like Gorilla fuck Nigga free she come,
like what she gonna do? Now? She's selling lot arenas.
It could go. It could have went either way. So
I think that I think that we have to allow

(25:24):
Gatekeeper to come back because we have to have someone
to say you're good, you're good you and and right
now nobody's saying that, so nigga, we won't even know
who's really who's fake now? But dude, we gotta we
gotta vet the gatekeepers though. No, but but I'm not
saying that. But my point is is like in any
anything that's exclusive, who's gatekeepers. NBA got gatekeepers, NFL got gatekeepers.

(25:48):
Why wont the music industry? Movies got gatekeepers? Everybody got gatekeepers.
And what I mean by that is like, here's what
I mean me and you can't go right now, Nigga,
imagine Ray and Bank streaming us playing one on one
in basketball. We ain't good at all, but we got
eighteen million people following up watching us. Is the NBA like, man,
we need those eighteen million people. We gonna get that. No,

(26:09):
them niggas ain't good enough. The music business doesn't think
like that that song is terrible. We're gonna sign it
because it's gonna bring in money. They stopped gate keeping.
They let anybody in. And now niggle me say so.
I remember I remember La told me about one day
he signed an artist. And this is a funny. I
don't even know I should say this, but he signed
an artist and Future came up to him was like
that Nigga's on the label. He just said he's on

(26:32):
the label. LA was like yeah, and he said Future
to say nothing. He just walked away. LA was like,
I dropped that nigga the next day the way Future
looked at me, like, because you gotta remember futures, like,
I'm not nigga. You pick me, nigga? How you gonna
pick me? Cause I'm that nigga you picked that. You
might have got lucky with me, my nigga. I don't
know about you, So you gotta let that go. Gatekeeping.

(26:56):
You need gatekeeping. Gatekeeping respects greatness. But we just can't
have a hater in this. No no, no no. But
sometime they try to put the politics over the talent.
Now here's the problem. Now, you're right, and that's why
we got rid of gate keepers. You know what it's like.
You know, it's like, let me tell you what it's like.
It's like, it's like, I'm gonna just refer this. I
hope y'all don't think I'm weird. It's this cartoon I

(27:16):
watched when I was a kid. It really helped me out.
It was a bugs bunny car. It was like an
Elma FuG cartoon. But I never forget because it started
off with a guy being in his house, or Elma
Pudg was in his house and there was a mouse
in the house and it was running in out the wall.
He couldn't get rid of it. He was trying to
get rid of it traps. The mouse is just too smart.
So he brings in a cat. Right, so, now the
cat's in the house. The cat runs the mouse away,
but now the cat's in the house. Now the cat

(27:38):
is doing a little shit, messing up stuff. So he's like, fuck,
I gotta get rid of this goddamn cat. Fuck. So
he brings in the dog, and the dog comes down.
The dog's a box of dogs, and the dog is
after he runs a cat away. He's boxing and he's
making all this noise. He's like fuck. So then he
brings in the lion to get rid of the dog.
The lion's growling. Then he brings an elephant to get
rid of the lion because the elephant is big. And
then he realizes, I don't have no spaces, just me

(27:59):
and an eleph in my big in my little ass house.
So guess what he does. He brings back the mouse.
The mouse scares the shit out of the elevant and
now he lives happily ever after with the fucking mouse.
That's life. That's life. That's life. My nig niggas be
trying to this shit ain't working for me. I'm gonna
go get this, nigga. Some gonna come with that too,

(28:20):
Some gonna come with that too. You can't keep running,
my nigga. You're gonna end up right back in the
same place. He was tired as hell now now the
mouse is there. He's looking at the mouse like, dude,
the I'm tired, I've been nigga. We just gotta start
thinking about our approach to to life and how we
get tricked out of positions like and I think gatekeepers
got tricked out of positions. They was like, so it's

(28:42):
like we tie the gatekeepers. Now, let everybody make music.
You got niggas out here talking. Niggas don't even talk
like music execs. No more music. If you ever heard
La Read talk, you ever heard Tricky Stewart talk, these
niggas talk like music executives. Nigga, you hear Larry Jackson
talk music? Is that These new niggas don't talk like music.
They talk like business man. How the fuck are you
gonna be? How you leading a company of cool and

(29:04):
you ain't cool. Real shit, that's all we need gatekeepers.
We don't have no gatekeepers. And now music sucks. Niggas
say in Atlanta and need help. If everybody needs help now,
why because we let anybody who had a fucking a
microphone put out a song. Now we're getting a hunt.
Now we getting what one million, fifty thousand songs uploaded
a week? Like when you open up your Spotify shall

(29:27):
you open up with Spotify? Anybody? When you open up
and shit, you usually just go to what you know
because there's so much shit out there. Nigga nigga, nigga.
I'll be go look for some new shit. And I'm like, man,
who is he to go to wrack caveall? I just
go play Dating family, Nigga. I just play Dating family,
my niggause, who are these niggas? Like I'm investing in
these that y'all just letting anybody with clout just get in.
And now you're wondering why we're not interested no more.

(29:51):
It's like school school had gate cues. Remember the badass
kids in school, Them niggas that sit in the same classroom,
they would be able to come out in the hallway
with us, right, Like, nigga, you come in the hallway,
but when it's when that motherfucker bell ring, they go
right back in that same got their classroom. Right, That's
what it's like. It's like, it's like niggas, you gotta understand, nigga,
that's what the music is like. We allowed the niggas
that used to be in the hallway that gotta go

(30:13):
on class. We're like, no, no, no, people are interested
in them, yeah, but they're not learning shit, you know
what I mean. Niggas are are rich and famous now
that shouldn't be rich and famous because they would have
stop a nigga that we would have been making fun
of a high school. Hello, he think about the shouldn't
be famous though, because so what happens when you make
them famous is you have no interest in actual greatness.

(30:37):
Now so now because anybody who can entertain is famous,
he might be entertaining because he was born crippled. Like
he ain't entertaining. He's entertaining because he's born crippled. So
now so now we're making him more famous than the
actual talent. It's our interest. It's like it's like it's
like It's like it's like high school remb high school.
The niggas that rap, We ain't give fun about the

(30:58):
niggas that rap. Let's use a nigga that rap he
we ain't give a fuck aout them, Then give fun
out the niggas that dance less she was a nigga
that dance, same concept. We didn't give fun about them
slow kids unless she was a slow kid. Okay, cool.
Now we gotta give a fun about everything because they're
all in the same classroom. Now now the slow kids, now,
the slow kids that that that get Now you got
fucking artists that need to act like influencers now because

(31:18):
this guy over here, like it's this one dude, and
I just thought the nigga went to Bannaker. What's his
name here, shamar Chavar was his name, No, muz a
guy named that Chamarco. He went the Bannaker. This nigga's fame.
He's like the gay uh slow kid. He needs help.

(31:39):
He be getting beat up my boyfriends and ship. We
just laughing at it, like, no, that nigga needs help,
that's my point. As long as he lit he don't
need help, That's how we look at it. No, he lit.
He needs help. That's why he lit. So we could
finally help him, not laugh at him, not joke at him,
not like, oh look at this stupid that we used
to laugh at him. We was in high school. We've
grown now, we should help him. Now it's like high

(32:01):
school again. That's what That's all we need gay keeping.
We don't have no more teachers, no more than music beulause.
Everybody's students. And now the class is not about who
has the best students, it's about which students is making
the most views today. So do you think do you think?

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Basically, it's like when the person become a star, they
become automatical influence. And he's saying, of certain motherfucker shouldn't
be able to influence people.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
What I'm saying is that you can't even be a
star unless you're an influencer now, and the reason why
is because we showed interest in the fucking shit that was.
It was like, it's like if I said, if my
daughter is eight, guys, if I gave my daughter an iPad,
it said, she's going to go watch fucking Pepper Pig
or what's the Hunter? The Demon Hunter? K Pop Demon

(32:45):
Hunters nigga, that's great entertainment, but it ain't helping her.
I need you watching something else. So it's like, of
course I give my kid the computer. She's gonna watch that.
But our job as gay keepers to say, no, you're
gonna watch this for the first four hours of the day,
watch this, learn this, then i'll give you that. Now
we don't have that. Niggas is waking up picking to
watch what they want and not realizing they fucking up

(33:06):
the economy. You hate the way the world is. You
did it. You are the algorithm, my nigga. How you
hate the way the world that you did it? That's
why when I see girls now, I just wipe quicker.
Now I don't want see the more other nigga. I'll
be skipping. I might, I might. I don't eve want
nobody to think I like that shit. Because the algorithm
is showing me so many women. I'm like, I don't know,
don't want to see that. But then when I'm swiping,
I'm like, oh, sht a nut look, so they like,

(33:26):
we know what you stop at. So I don't even
want to stop no more because I don want niggas
think I'm into that The algorithm is showing us who
we are, and I feel like we gotta look at
that and be like, how do we get better? Cause nigga,
the kids is getting worse and worse. And people always
talk about streaming streamers. Man in gosh, I had a
million people watching who kids is those watching hours? You
know why because we are here trying to get money

(33:47):
to make sure they live the comfortable life that we didn't. Meanwhile,
we ain't teaching them shit. We need a gate I'm
gate keeping my kid more than ever now. I'm like, now,
I gotta know what you're doing, bro, I gotta know
where your head is at, how you think about shit,
because when you go outside, I don't need to be
sure you're smart. And I think he is, but he's
older now, so I'm like, I gotta test you for
the second level. So yeah, we need gatekeeping, bro. We
need a nigga to say that shit is whack? That shit?

(34:09):
What What about the niggas that's saying shit whack that
ain't whack? Okay, So here's another problem in music business.
Niggas was protecting their friends. That's the real problem. The
real problem is niggas was protecting their friends, a nigga
a higher. When I was at my last job at Warner,
I was the best guy there to do the job. Nigga,
how about this Nobody that's been there after me has

(34:30):
done more than my little company has done, and they
work at a major Nigga, I'm this shit, but I
don't I talk back. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna
tell you, hey, we can't sign that artist right now.
He's gonna hurt the culture. And sometimes you don't want
that voice around, that voice and reason nigga were trying
to get this money. If that's the case, then tell
me and I could respect it. When Jimmy I Bean
first started in it Scope, you know who the first

(34:52):
artist he sign was. The second artist was Tupac Shakur. No,
I'm lying. I think the first artisty sign was Tupac Shakur.
The second arts he signed was Rico suave A. Hey, hey, Rico, Nigga.
Jimmy said it on he said on the record, we
had to sign that to make money to get to
POK because we knew Pac was special. That's gatekeeping the

(35:14):
new music business is man. Ricos Swabe got three million
views and Tupac ain't got none. Yeah, but Rico swave
is is the Monkey Show. He's he's dancing. We let
him fund Pop, Yes, but my point is we knew
he funded Pac. We knew he wasn't great. That's what
I'm trying to tell you. We knew that the gate
keeping understood. This guy is a handsome Spanish guy who

(35:35):
has this hit record. He's not gonna We're not gonna
get awards. We're not gonna get into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame for signing him. And we're gonna
get to the Rock and Hole Hall of Fame for
signing Pac. But we know that Pak is gonna take
longer because he's special. He's fast food. Let's put that
out right now. They did it POC and then now
in the Scope is one of the biggest labels in

(35:56):
the world. But they had a plan. These new companies
don't have plans. They just got niggas. That's like, his
numbers are good. That must be with people working. Imagine
if me and you lived our life chasing fire as
was hot. Nigga, you think we'll be sitting here right nigga?
Hell no, nigga. Y'all, y'all the niggas will be like,
here come the niggas. The nut takes us niggas a way,
are we hot? Now here they come? Nigga, I take

(36:18):
pridem being at first. I take pride in believing when
no one else did. I take pride and also knowing
the game to say, yo, he's McDonald's and that's okay,
because say McDonald's not disrespecting me. They sell a million,
a billion breakers a fucking year. Who don't want to
be McDonald's. You no calls counseling ship. It does, but
you're not. I'm not You're right about that. But what

(36:41):
you're saying, that's my point. It's like it's some ship
that come with that, you know, like it's some ship
that come with everything. That's all I'm saying. We just
we need gate keepers though bad like nigga. We need gay.
We need a nigga to tell a nigga that ship
ain't it. We need a nigga to tell a nigga
you could be better. I've seen l a reed leader.
I think I think he's still gate keeping, but I
think they're doing it. I think they want the shit
in that ain't no nigga, let me sea. How they

(37:03):
gate keeper? Now, what a smart niggas at they over there?
All right, cool, let's go this way. Yep, that's what
I'm saying, nigga. And since when has a nigga we
ever gave a nigga props for taking the weakest fight
as men, This why we give a nigga props for
taking the weakest fight. We respect niggas take the real fight.

(37:25):
Of course it's easy to do that. Of course it's easy.
And by the way, I've done it too. I go,
I gotta signed some bullshit. I ain't never everything I saign.
They've been great. But what I'm saying is is I
was always looking for greatness, though I might not have
got there, but that's the point, look for it. Kobe
was chasing Jordan his whole life. He didn't get the
six rings, he didn't get the six back to back,
but he got the fire. He did very fucking good
for himself. So I say, chase greatness and if the

(37:46):
closer you get to that, the more success you have
anything you want, and gate keepers are part of that
in my mind.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
So do you think so earlier you said they be
saying like a loss, you're saying music business lost Nigga.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
The music business is is ran by bankers and research
people who on the creative side, on the business side,
who now tell creative people and marketing people what to do.
The only thing they focus on is the bottom line.
If the music business was what it is today, we
went and back in twenty thirteen when I was working

(38:22):
on Epic, we wouldn't have Travis, we won't have Future,
we won't have Yo Gotti. Because those are three people
that I'll watch La repay top dollar two like they
were the biggest and they wasn't at the time, and
that's how they got so big. And by the way,
I asked him, I'm like, Yo, why are you giving
them so much money? He was like, because I need
them to go outside and know that they more than
what they see. Ooh. It's like La was a coach.

(38:45):
He wanted the big niggas up. He wants you to
see your value. He wanted to show you the power
of black. Nobody even cares about black no more. It's like,
fuck black, It's all about greed. Now we lost. How
we fixed? Let get keep us in the right people
people here, gatekeepers. You think about a lame nigga who
what I'm talking about is a nigga that actually does it,

(39:05):
a nigga like I would let Bank run a label.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
See when you said when I when I think about
I think about nutholers like he holds.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I'm just talk about a nigga that can say what's
cool or not. Yeah, that's cool, right, and he's actually cool.
That's my point. Now we trust Now we trust. Now
we're like, oh my bank said's cool. Okay, we're cool.
Now imaginely if you don't know it's cool and you're
talking to another nigga, No, it's cool. Now you're like,
it's cool to you? What do you think? I don't know.
That's what's happening, yeap. Record labels are not even pushing

(39:33):
the artists. They only pushing songs now, like nigga, fuck
the artists, We push your record. So for me, it's
like a gatekeeper is someone that gives a fuck Like
I said this to me and you are a co
CEOs a BT right now, right now they paying us
three million a year, but BT is losing. Are you happy?

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Hell? Know me?

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Neither a lame? Would they just want the money I got?
I'm been paid three million dollars a run. Black Nigga
is losing. What are we talking about? That's what I mean.
Like Nigga, you give La read a fucking hit on Monday,
don't think Friday. He ain't expected another one. Greatness Nigga,
Like Nigga, he wants one every day from you, not

(40:14):
one when you could give it to him like greatness.
He he it's the greatness code that's missing, and it
is missing because no one. We have nobody to look
up to because everybody's regular. I know, I make a
lot of reference to movies, but this is this movie.
It's called Mega Mind, and it's a cartoon, you know, cartoon.
So the reason why it's so geous is because Mega
Mind is this bad guy who's basically he always loses, right,
He's like Lex Luger. He Nigga, Superman gonna win. At

(40:36):
the end of the movie, he finally wins, but he
really didn't win. The guy actually just was tied of
fighting and winning it, so he just left. But he
thought he won. So when he thought he won and
then now he runs the world. He was so bored.
And you know this Nigga did he created a superhero
to fight just like and then the crazy part of
the superhero created was so fucking was like just a

(40:58):
regular nigga. He didn't gag me. He just gave somebody
superhero powers. The first week that nigga was saving the world.
Second week he was robbing that motherfucker. So he goes
to see the Nigga house and he's like, what's all
this stuff? Man? Oh I took it? What? No? No?
I made you a superhero so you can stop me
from taking stuff? Why would I want to stop you? You

(41:19):
should take stuff too. So now he has to be
the hero. He wants a fight and the god. He
becomes the hero in man, I learned from movies, Bro, movies,
teach me everything.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Man, where do you think we had in the world? Man,
let's shift get what do you think we had in
the world.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Everybody need to work. Everybody need to survive the next
six months. Everybody I know is struggling. You hell yeah,
shay you. I don't know one person who And by
the way, I got some really rich friends and they
might not be struggling from that, they struggle for something else.
But everybody I know is struggling. We have to survive

(41:57):
the struggle right now. It's like I'm gonna make another
mo Like, hey, I'm doing this. It's like Forrest Gum,
Bubba Gump, Shrimp Nigga. Everybody was like, it's a storm coming,
we going to hide, and they was like, man, we
just left fucking Vietnam. I ain't got nothing to fucking lose.
Fuck it, We're gonna take the storm on. They get
the head start. It's a Bubba Gump strip of Tome
Square right now, been there for twenty something plus years
because of that movie. But that's what I'm telling everybody.

(42:19):
You have to survive. Not about to stop going out
spending money that you don't have to spend. You have
to be smart. You have to be militant. Right now,
Black men men need to be leading our family in
a militant way, telling them how to be smart because
everything is expensive and what you really want to do
is just survive until the sunlight comes. We still wain't
for shit to die. I think we still got another

(42:40):
six months of things dying before the sun comes out.
Maybe I think Trump comes next year, he starts saving stuff,
cause your niggas are losing houses. We ain't got to
the place where it's so bad that the government has
to step in yet, and I think we're gonna get there,
and then I think shit is gonna change because shit
is just too expensive. And I have a theory. This
is terrible, but I have a theory. I think that
they're trying to I think that Trump's plan is a

(43:00):
fire to make everybody lose their job so that property
value can go down on houses. Okay, think about like this,
Trump is in DC. Trump's in DC, right, he fired
like one hundred thousand government employees in DC. That's one
hundred thousand homes mortgages that can't be paid no more.

(43:22):
Now he got these people fires. So now what's happening
now niggas is trying to sell a house. Everybody putting
the house on the sale. Now niggas is going down. Now, niggas,
that inflation price is going down. So now instead of
selling for one point one nigga, I need to get
out this bus next month, Nigga, I don't have the money.
I'm selling it for eight hundred and fifty thousand whatever own.
So I think what he's trying to do is run
the economy into the ground so inflation can come down.

(43:44):
I know they can't say it, but to me, I've
been saying this for the last year. I'm like, the
only way we're gonna stop inflation, Nigga, what business makes
prices go down? Think about this, If we're running a business,
why would we drop our prices? The only way you
drop a price when there's no business. Think about it.
So I'm everybody, stay the fuck home. Of course they
gonna kee charging one hundred and twenty five dollars for
who could cause you keep buying it. Don't go for

(44:06):
three motherfucking weeks. I've been gonna be fucking forty dollars
and that's what it was when they start. That's my point.
And I think I'm noticing we getting back there. So
I think that a lot of because everybody know it's struggling.
Everybody is dealing with shit, and I just think it
has to hit a peak. And I think that it's
gonna be better because the world is in a better place,
is in a better shape than ever, because we all

(44:26):
are connected to each other. We care about each other,
Like even if you're on Trump side or against the side,
we with each other against something. I just think that
we just need to allow this economy thing to play out.
I think the music business the same thing. I've been
saying this for anybody with me. I've be saying this
for two years. I've been like, Yo, if you watching me,
take the next two years, don't spend no money. Survive.
I think we got about six more months. But but

(44:47):
you can't spend no money because the people that survive
this Like when b Simon, everybody made fun of her
when she was like, I'm shopping at AH and m
everybody is. Everybody's over leveraged right now. Everybody in the
pandemic was that's the money and this unicorn or that
or even if it was this and it didn't, she
didn't play out the way of this. So niggas is
over leveraged. And try I tell niggas Michael Jordan is

(45:08):
worth how much money that nigga just took a job.
Think about that. He probably though, my nigga, what billionaire?
You know, Michael Jordan has never taken a picture with
a nigga. Now you're gonna talk to us, Now you're
gonna give us advice. This nigga don't even smile with niggas.

(45:29):
Now you want to talk to us. No, it's because
everybody's over leveraged and they're paying him forty million dollars
a fucking year. He's like forty million dollars a year
to work one day a week, twice a week. You
know what, I could probably do that for a year.
You got billionaires taking jobs nigga's he might he might
have that value. You never know. You never know who's

(45:50):
cashing rich poor you what he doing with his money?
Ain't no where the fucking that up, nigga. Hey you gamble, nigga.
I heard it low. I heard that. I saw this video.
They said that he sold his the Bodcat, the Charlotte
Hornets to somebody over a gambling deck. He do we gambling?
Like listen, let me say, I heard somebody say brutal
Mars lost fifty three million dollars in one fucking role.

(46:12):
I'm like, we can't fathom it. But I don't gamble
like that, Like I'm not a gambler like that, Like
I'm roll huh, what kind of rolla nigga? It must
be five million in the row, That's my point. Like
you want to gamble that bad, I've said, gambled, but
just give yourself a little. But My point is is
Michael Jordan took a job. You say, dang, I see

(46:32):
I see on your play with Dame. Dang fucking mine
up about this? I think, Okay, So I think Dame
is smart, definitely. I think he's I think he's Dame
is one of those guys where he's so smart for
his own good that it might hurt him because he

(46:53):
don't want to hear nobody saying unless they're doing the
same thing he's doing what you mean Like he's like like, like,
Dame's whole thing is me is like, y, you look
up the niggas that borrow money from people. Everything I'm
doing with my money, So I might go broke because
I'm spending my own money but I own it and
they don't. And I'm like, so it's like, yeah, I
mean that's that makes a lot of sense. But like

(47:14):
most of the biggest companies in Americas build other people money.
So it's one of them things where it's like he
can't just say that's cool, that's true. Now I fuck
that they d And so it's like, I think Dame
was brilliant. He called me he was mad, but he
was like he said he didn't like that I made
it feel like jay Z needed somebody needed to save him,
and he's a man and he don't need no one

(47:34):
to save him. And what I was trying to tell
him was I wasn't saying it like like that. What
I I didn't say, give him money. I was saying,
my nigga, it's like the laws of power, right, one
of the law power laws of powers crush the enemy totally, right.
So I was saying that he's crushed totally. This would
be a good time for me man up there to
help him because now he he got a he had
a friend because he's dead now. And I was really

(47:56):
looking at it from that angle, but he was like,
I want that from that nigga. Nigga Like, and I
ain't crushed totally because I see the nigga made sure
I show it to you. The nigga made sure when
we FaceTime, he made sure nigga take a picture with
me and let these niggas know that I own my ship.
So like literally we was all like, I show it

(48:18):
to you like this niggas funny, Bro, this nigga's crazy.
So we was we was on FaceTime and he was like,
I mean this on he was like, nigga, make sure
you get the dust go popping ten sign in the
background so his niggas know what the fuck it really is.
So I'm like, but he was basically telling me. He
said that he runs his family office. He doesn't have
any money, His family has all the money, and he

(48:39):
expected me to be smart enough to know that rather
than just listening to the media says that Dave Dash
is broke. And he said you should at least called
me to ask me. And I was like, now, that's
what you're right, But I just think it's weird to
ask a nigga like are you broke? So they just
put on the screens like what you think about this situation.
I was like, man, that's true, and I hope Jay
helped this.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Man.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I got a nigga that hangs out with my best
friend from I was twelve, Like he's like, yo, my nigga,
you know how it is with your man Dave, Like
you know you're never gonna find that again. That's my point,
because you ran in the Dave at a time where
you're not where you're at now. Of course, everybody want
to be your friend now, but me and him was
when no one cared. And I'm saying you and Jay
have that. No one could take that from y'all, like
y'all was there in the trenches together. So that means

(49:18):
you know, he's not there for anything besides you, because
he was there for you from the jump. That's what
I was trying to explain to him. He was like,
fuck that, I don't need that nigg of money. And
then he said some shit, He said this nigga just
took out a loan for against his house, Like, nigga,
I don't take out loans against my house. But then
I'm like, every billionaires probably niggas need money. How did

(49:41):
he need money as a billion at though? Because you
could be worth a billion but not have access to
ten million cash. Okay, yes, exam. So for me, it's
like you could be So that's why I know. Like
when he said he's like, Jay took out a loan.
You didn't see that, And I'm like, I saw that.
He was like, why would a BILLIONI take out a loan?
Ask yourself. Ray, I'm like, I don't you know what

(50:02):
this is? Above my head. I shouldn't have said nothing.
I went on the record. I was like, yo, because
dam it's my man. That's really ended with him, ended
with him telling me take a screenshot of him. Make
sure you make sure every time you talk about me,
you let these niggas know that I'm straight. I'm doing great. Nigga.
Here go right here. Nigga said, no, no, Nigga said,

(50:25):
I took a picture like this at first. Then he
was like, Nigga, let me go get my hat on
and take it in front of the ranch. So on
his own, he got a house at Montana. He's living
his life and he don't give a fuck about what
we talk about. So it's like, but somebody asked me
what I think Jay should do? What I thinking? I
was like, man, because I'm a friend my nigga, Like,

(50:46):
I don't hate nobody, my nigga. And sometimes you gotta
go separate ways because sometimes we might just be able
to stand still with one of us ain't right. I
might feel like going left is right. You might feel
like going right is right. I'm like, nigga, let's go
our separate ways. You might have hit the jackpot. Nigga,
we were still friends. I mean, looking at me like
stupid ass one left, Nigga, I told you go right
with me. No, nigga, what if I went left, well
my way work, you would have wanted me to pull

(51:07):
you over. So I just look at it like we
should be pulling each other up rather they kicking each
other down, and Dame didn't like it.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Do you think they unjustly holding Puff as a fucking lootle?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Puff is in jail for giving his girl money to
fuck men because he couldn't perform like them. He gave
her money for nigga giving me in money to fuck
He's give you. None of the none of the prostitutes
ever interacted with Puff. They don't even acted with Cassie.

(51:41):
She would call him and say, hey, are you available.
They didn't even some most of your niggas didn't even
know puffers in the room while they was hitting Cassie
until like the fourth or fifth time of connecting. They
thought they was with Cassie.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
What about They talking about Puff had on the ski
man and putting none on his chest and.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Shit, well that's some that's some freaking nasty ass ship.
But that ain't ship that the nigga should be in
jail for. Like, by the way, it was some weird
shit in that too, you know. What I'm saying. I'm
saying like he had to have some kind of fascination
would come because they said, because you y'all to see
the interviews I watched last so Glad was like the
guys was like, yo, one guy said he faked the

(52:19):
nut and Puff took cast in the other room. It's like,
where's the where's the come you didn't do it? He
was like, why does that matter to y'all so much?
The fuck is going on? He had a fat So
it's like he all freaky ass nigga, but he shouldn't
be in jail for that. He really, Puff's in jail
right now because he got rich and a lot of

(52:39):
people was mad that they didn't get rich with him,
and a lot of people lined up with him hoping
they would get rich. His girl was with him, probably
doing the nasty shit for him, like nigga, I need
some money over here, me and my nigga. He like, bitch,
you left me for that nigga. Stay with that nigga.
How many time do you think it's justified for him?
I think I think here's my theory. I believe that
October third, he walks out the court. I believe that. No,

(53:03):
I believe that the judge is making him sit for
the time served. That'll be about two years, be a year,
it'll be a yeah. I think the judges like serve three,
three years, serve one. Today's just one go home today.
I think that that's what I think. Puff is gonna
be home by Halloween. He sprung he shouldn't be in jail.
We thought it was freak off. We thought it was

(53:24):
little kids. We thought it was him and jay Z
running trains and raped the little kit of it. It
was a freaky ass nigga who who Who wasn't I
guess wasn't packing that His girl wanted something, so he
hired niggas that was bigger than him. She dealt with him. No,
but I'm saying to no, Okay, So in our world

(53:46):
that's huh. But in that world it's called a couck.
What a couck? Puff's a cuck. A cook is a
man who enjoys watching his wife get pleasured by other
men or as woman get joll like, yeah, like that.
They call those a coup So Adam not though, because
Adam actually fox girls with his girl. But I'm saying

(54:06):
Puff watches that's what he would do. Man, nigga, you
didn't see y'all didn't see the fucking interview that the
guy did on lad when he was telling the story
when they was running the train on Cassie and and
and Puff and him was about to fight in the
middle of the train. Oh my god, nigga. So I
guess I guess Puff wanted that. They So they all

(54:28):
had all of the escorts, male escorts, thought they was
the only guy. They thought they were special. So Puff
was like, invite him, and they invited two guys. Basically
it was like one of y'all gonna be our guy,
but she gonna make the decision in the room, basically,
like who gonna fuck up better? Like like, by the way,
this is this all they said, All this is online
right now. I watched the interview, and I guess one

(54:49):
of the guys was having sex with Chassis Cassie from
the back and Puff was getting my head and Puff
had on his glasses and his hat and his thing,
and I guess the guy was staring at him like
what the fuck you keep They be trying to figure
out who I am. Oh, so he was trying to
finish the dude like ain't me nigga. The dude didn't
know who nigga. So what happens is is him and

(55:10):
Puff's about to fight. Cassie goes into the other room.
When Puff goes to get Cassie, the other escort tells him, Hey,
my nigga, that's Puff. He didn't even know you see
what I'm saying Like it wasn't like he was using
his influence. He was just using his money. He didn't
even know. And by the way, no money ever left
his hands. Every money that was a shamed was in

(55:32):
her hands. Why is he in jail because they don't
like the nigga. There's no other reason. Bro, Listen, he
didn't listen. He did wrong, but in the trial they
couldn't convict him for being a rico because he wasn't
a fucking He was just a freaky ass nigga. Bro,
I don't think he should be in jail. I think
he should be out. And to be honest with you,
ain't gonna lie to you. I My fear is after

(55:53):
watching that, Cassie need to be worried about the fucking
escorts getting together is suing her because every last one
was none of them was using protection and she would
tell him that the only one. M hm.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
So do you think do you think Puff can get
back out and get back in the coaching now. I
think that another on the nipples is gonna do some
damage to him for a long time.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I just if he could take the nut on the
nipples joke and not take it serious. The nigg Nigga
aint gonna let ship. Nigga ain gonna let hey my nigga, Nigga.
My friends will make fun of shit having on a
school bus nigga when I got jooned on the school bus.
But Nigga, he ain't gonna escape that nipple on the
nipple thing. So for me, it's like, as long as
he can come back knowing that Nigga's gonna laugh at that,

(56:39):
I think he has a shot man. People don't understand bro.
Like this. People are fickled. Bro. They will hate you today,
love you tomorrow, and hate you the next day to
love you the next day. And I'm like, I think
that I think that Puff has done enough, and I
think that he's been in bad have ever I'm about
to reference another fucking movie. I don't. I was gonna

(57:01):
say Game of Thrones. He had his walk of shame,
he did his walk of shame, he did his Walk
of atonement. He's embarrassed. Everybody knows he like nigga nut
on his nipples. Everybody know he's little in the bed.
Everybody know he hied like everybody like. It's like it's
like he's necking. Now he's outside by yourself. So if
you can get past that, he'll be okay. That should
be a sounding relief, though to me it would like

(57:21):
I'm just tired of hoiding. Like to me, I hope
he gets past it. But I don't know, man, I
don't know, bro. Like, for me, the most important thing
is gonna be how did the industry respond to him?
How does his friends respond to him? Yeah, this shit
sounded so far up at for like he was raping
dudes like like like god like, and it was like,
I ain't gonna lie man. Part of me, I won't
say I feel bad for him, but because his karmic deck,

(57:42):
he's paying. He did something, he did something to deal
with all and by the way, he know God know,
and that's probably probably why he's like, I'm okay, what
happened to go through this? But he's paying some karmic
debt back from something. But I hope the nigga gets
out and I hope he does well. I just want
to see how like the Klids, the Rosses, the jay Z,
he's the people who was like his friends, like oh,
we thought was his friends. I just like to see

(58:04):
if they embrace him, because I think if they do,
he'll be a little insulated, you know which, I hope
they do. I actually hope they do. You think he
would accept that, though, would you? It depends on the
nature of the relationship. If you left me for dead,
would you accept the motherfucker to feeling like, Bro, you're
home if you ain't, If you ain't meet me in
the struggle, I might not expect you to be down

(58:24):
in the struggle with me. Like if me and you
got down in the streets and nigga, we was hustling
together at the bottom, I expected from you if we
met as two rich niggas, Nigga, we both met like
up here, nigga, we both I got our job up
here is maintaining for all the shit we did down here? Okay?
So yes, I just hope. I hope they do because
I hate when nigga, I hate the way we isolate

(58:45):
people in society when they're not like us. Like he
ain't like us, my nigga. He he different. I don't
want to do it, but like I ain't mad at
him for doing it. It's like shit, nigga, That's how
I look at it. Like nigga, I got. I say
this to you, if you got the capacity your brain
to focus on with some other petty shit people doing that,
you really need to look at your life because you

(59:06):
could take that instead of focus on big people feti
petty shit, focus on your big shit. They didn't turn
them into a whole yahn me O Diddy, he can
take that. I'm telling he can take that. I think
if But I don't know, man like, he never been
a nigga that I saw playing like that. He's not
a silly nigga. So I ain't a scorpio. He emotional
as fuck. I don't know. I like put like this. Nobody,

(59:31):
neither one of us have been a billionaire have access
to the whole world and then got it. Take it
from us with the with the odd, with the hopes
of taking it for the rest of your life. I
think that based on if I was my my mentality. Nigga,
if you worried about the No Diddy jokes, you worry
about the nunther nipples. God didn't teach you the lesson
you need to learn yet, brother, like nigga, you should

(59:53):
be getting out like hey laugh at me all day.
I don't care. I think you're gonna get out and
get in the church. I think you're gonna want to
be in like a megapast or some shit like with.
I think you're gonna go to Florida. I think we'll
move out to La and go to Florida. I mean,
go to Texas, live with TD Jakes, Cause you know,
the South were a little different, my nigga, wet, we
ain't gonna hold you like we ain't gonna you know,
New York, they gonna what you know, the South, we
might do a chuir like Charlott, you know what I'm saying.

(01:00:15):
But like I think you're gonna go through the South.
You're gonna work with Tdj's. He gonna get into God
and he gonna you're gonna come back somehow. That way,
everybody had to make a bet.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Bet, damn, damn, damn man. A lot of niggas stop
fucking with that ship. Dun ain't hear niggas mentioned that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. I always help
us to be careful because like, I know what I do.
But I'm like, hey, nigga, you you know what you
do because you know that ship might get leaked out too.
You just never know, like especially if you plan it.
Like that's another reason why I think we gotta give
it another six months. I think that puff child closed
the whole portal. I think the whole portal opened up

(01:00:56):
when Kim Kardashian and Ray J did that sex tape.
The whole portal opened up. Let me tell what I mean.
We Kim Kardashian is the person that did a sex tape.
That's a billionaire. Now think about if you're a young girl.
That means I can I can do only fans and
still be the president. So the whole portal have been opened,

(01:01:16):
and she her family's the biggest. And then I think
that the puff trial is gonna close it because smart
Nigga's like, hey, nigga, I ain't doing that. No, I
ain't fucking around no more. You ain't gonna catch me,
nigga holes what what I'm telling you, the whole portals closing.
Nigga ain't flying no business. They're flying something. How about this?
You fly yourself signed this nigga wonna flo. I'm telling you, bro,

(01:01:38):
like the whole portal is closed.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
It's like niggas ain't. Rappers might fall for, but rest
of us niggas like, nah, you're a whole baby. Okay, cool,
you could go over there. You ain't about to get
me called up, yoshit. You can't even sleep around a hole.
She might take a picture of you in the bed.
You just the whole portal needs to close. Bro. I
love holes. I regret this. I love holes.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
No man shouldn't do nothing that he'll be embarrassed about.
It's just how I matter what it is. You're lighting
ut on your nipples, nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Say he might say it, nigga, just but that's my thing.
Don't be afraid to own who you are. And I
think the one thing I will say about Puff, he's
the one nigga that I don't feel like nobody knows,
Like who really knows him? Like I thought you knew him. Hell,
y'all got to deal revolt, man, That's my point. We all.

(01:02:23):
It was like, it's like you he I'm talking. I
was talking to some block and bother was like, man,
I can't believe it in jail. I'm like me neither.
I was like when I talk to me, I ain't
talk to men the mane. I'm like, I thought you
talk to him every day. Block. He's like, nah, nigga
will like once the business old week just went out,
I'm like, damn. So then my thing is how you say,
like if I say you my brother, bank my brother,
when you call me, I'm coming, nigga. If you need

(01:02:44):
me to show up to something, I'm coming. I'm not
looking at it like what's in it for me? Like
that's my nigga, Like and I want him to show
up for like vice versa. So I don't know, man,
I just I just think he I just I pray
for the man like Fara Kind got a famous saying.
He said, when a man falls, don't laugh. Learn. I'm learning,
And I think the whole porter's closing. Nigga. People was

(01:03:06):
getting on me because I was I was so enamored
boy this trial because I'm like, what is Seth trafficking?
Cause nigga, I done flew plenty of chicks somewhere, and
it was like, how much money are gonna lose today?
How much money you gonna lose it the three days
you're with me? Six hundred here, I might go. I
can go to jail for that. That's scary as fuck
to me. So I'm just like paying attention, Like I'm

(01:03:26):
telling the whole Poter's closed flying nobody nowhere, the nigga
you I'm not only want to nigga. I don't even
feel comfortable talking around women like that because they might
record it. It's just it's just once you become think
about this, once you become notorious, there's somebody that can
become notorious off you. Something has to happen, Something is

(01:03:48):
gonna happen. I hate to say it. I don't want
to say this because it's like not cool. But people
usually grow from death. Death makes us look at ourselves, nigga.
There was a lot of black men getting killed by police.
Trayvon Martin was a kid, but something about George Floyd

(01:04:09):
took us over. Something is gonna happen, and something is
gonna ball over, and that's gonna be the trigger that
changes everything. I don't know what it's gonna be though
it could, even if it'll make it go left, it's
gonna have to get right, even if they go left,
like nigga, Nigga, look at look at look at look
at it. From this standpoint, Trump wins the presidency in

(01:04:32):
twenty sixteen, right sixteen, seventeen eighteen, eineteen twenty, he's the president.
Biden comes back, wins into twenty twenty one. Nigga. The
entire time that Biden was president, they were trying to
kill Trump. What do they do by trying to kill him?

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yeah, they made they made them more popular. That's actually
how he won. So for me, it's like, we don't
really know what's what until it's the end. But I
say this, Trump don't give a fuck, and something major's
gonna have to happen for him to give a fuck.
It's not that I like him. I just think that
he's like every other raper I looked up to. He's
no difference than my favorite rapper. To me, hey my

(01:05:10):
name me tell you something, bro. I love Nigga. I
love like as a man. I love master P, master
P Nigga. He's probably the only celebrity. He's the only celebrity.
I ever cried when I saw he was working at
the airport pushing wheelch I seen p Pe. I love
that man so much. When Romeo dropped it made me
look at everything different because on the nigga you would know,

(01:05:34):
you probably would know him. It SOLDI you two nigga,
mamb I not wreck. He's like what you want to
be when you grow up a little man. He's I
want to be a motherfucking hustler. But then Romeo drops it.
He's singing bugs Bunny and dancing like aid. So I'm like, oh,
we will. I'm the kid that you tell the talk
to drug talk with because I'm poor, but you don't
talk that around your kid, no disrespect. I love Pete,

(01:05:56):
but like that was like a oh, it is entertainment.
It's entertainment. So for me, I look at it like, nigga,
you can't tell me, you can't whatever. Like I say
this bank, I swear to God, I'll say this on record.
If any advice I give anybody, it's the same advice
I give my child. Okay, I won't tell you nothing

(01:06:19):
that I won't tell my child because that's the most
curest love I have in my life. If I can
tell your kids to sell drugs, but I tell my
kid to go to private school, am I Really? The
fucking problem ain't not a problem. That's all Trump is.
He tells what we want to hear. He tell you
what you want to hear to get what he wants.
Like a rapper, don't giving a fuck about us. Fuck nigga.

(01:06:41):
Rappers will literally make records about fucking the community up,
and they give turkeys to the same community that they
fucked up. What's the difference. It's just to our niggas,
so we don't want to say it. So when our
niggas do it, it's cool. It's cool when they do it.
So when I seen Trump coming, I was like, man,
that nigga asks like rappers to me, Like he asked
like a rapper to me. He says, he once he
believed give a fuck what you feel nigga the second presidency.

(01:07:03):
Do y'all not realize this nigga is giving people his
friends jobs that they never had. Job This nigga made
a nigga ain't never worked in government. Head of the FBI, nigga.
You know why he did that? Let me tell you
why he did that. Because he played politics the first
time around, and y'all I was putting the real people.
Y'all all laughed at me behind my back. This time,
I'm gonna do it my motherfucking way and the people

(01:07:24):
with him. So I fucked with Trump based on the
fact that if he was agent Black, we'd be defending him.
But because he's Agent Orange, he hate him, and to me,
I think that's wrong. I think that you should. I
think that if it's good for my mother will always
tell me this, if it's good for the goose, is
good for the game. And my thing is that if
we love rappers that rap about killing people, selling drugs

(01:07:46):
and everything, and we still celebrate them like heroes, then
while we mad at white people for loving Trump even
though he says little slick racist shit, what the fuck
is the difference? It ain't none. That's why I had
to look at it through that lens. I gotta be
non biased. That's why I call myself culture referee. I'm
not gonna just do it because it's on my side.
I'm gonna do what's right. And when I see him talking,
he acts like niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
And that's the first black prison. They told O Obama,
that's the first black prisoner.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
When that niggag when they said when they when that
grabb him by the pussy came out, that's when I knew.
That was the moment where I was like, we're in
a different world. He said, grabbing by the pussy, nigga.
The Democrats was like, ship nigga, go watch SNL. Anybody
watching this, go watch SNL. The night before the Trump election,
they was like the joke was like, this nigga fucked
it up grabbing by the pussy. What did Trump do?

(01:08:33):
Any other politician, any other nigga that follows the rules
would have been like, I'm sorry, blah blah blah. That's
how we taught my nigga. And guess what, and that's
the truth and everybody how to accept it. So that's
my point. Trump is us And when record nigga, we
talk and they let me tell you something. Michelle Obama
and Barack Obama amazing. When they going low, we go high.

(01:08:56):
Trump is like, go lower me, bitch, I'm going lower.
And guess what. More people are like that than like Obama.
And that's why they fuck with him because he's like them.
He talks like them. He talks the way they talk
in their house. He says he's I don't know. He
doesn't try to be politically correct, he doesn't try to
make He don't be the only nigga nigga that sound
like a rapper. Imagine a rapper. Imagine watching a rapper

(01:09:18):
in front of sixty thousand white kids saying, my nigga,
my nigga. You know they singing it with you, but
I'm making money from it, so we cool. But that
nigga said that shit and he ain't no money from him.
Beat his ass. It's like, nigga, we're doing the same
thing they doing. We picking and chooser when we want
to be angry too. All I'm saying is I don't
hate him. I can't hate a man that asks that

(01:09:40):
to me, that acts like niggas that I grew up
with shit nigga. I like niggas I grew up with nigga.
He'll be like, y'all, I love But how you feel
about Big Bank? I love the guy. Well, you know,
here's a clip of Big Bank saying you suck. He's
a bitch. That's him, Like you know who he is
my nigga, Like he's like us nigga. If I to

(01:10:00):
any random human in America and say fuck you, what
is the natural three words gonna come out of thy mouth?
Fuck you too? Yep, that's what Trump is. Fuck you,
fuck you too. Now everybody feel safe about it. By
the way, I don't know if it's good for the country.
I'm not saying it's good for the country because I
think he is bringing a dangerous part in his politics
that's ready to do for everything. But what break down?

(01:10:22):
Like no, for sure, no, not for sure for sure.
So like, for example, like Trump has made the world
worse because the president is always supposed to better than
the people. How can you expect someone that, like, think
about it, the highest office in the land is up there,
that's the highest office. When they go low, what do
we do in the highest office? Guys, we go fucking low,
but we go high. Trump is like us, nigga. He

(01:10:44):
don't give a fuck. They go low, We're gonna low.
So my thing is eventually we So now we don't
have an idol. We don't have it. We don't have
an example of what greatness is. I get that, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
But on a world scale, would you rather have a
nigga going when a country go low, we go high.
Or when you when another country go low, we bombed there.
Like Trump, I'd rather I'd rather go high. I'd rather
go high because I was just so I'm afraid of them, Lukes.
I'm just like, you're right, But that's what I'm saying
that we got news too. But my point is that
Trump Trump. So I also think that Trump understands. Trump

(01:11:20):
is running the White House like a podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Nigga, for real, watch this Trump is. He's literally the
pot that every time he's in front of a podium
is entertainment for him. Every time he's really running the
country behind our back. We don't really know what he's
doing this shit. He's telling us the shit he wants
us to know. So it's like he's like a podcast, Like,
hey guys, here we doing today. I like this guy. Nigga.

(01:11:44):
Have we ever seen world leaders like way him and
Selenski was in the room. Have we ever seen that
in our life? Well a nigga like, yo, man, you
need to calm down, Like now niggas is presidents the
countries yo, yo. Say that. Trump was like, hey, you
don't have it. You don't have no talking to me
like that. Yeah, nigga, that was a show for Putin.

(01:12:05):
That was a show for Russia. That was a show
for the people. He just wanted Russia to see. I'm
gonna punk this nigga too, weik because Byron was like, whatever,
whatever is less he wants to do, we're gonna do it.
So let's you don't want the water end. Trump wants
you to end. He like, hey, nigga, I ain't with him.
He did it on the world stage, probably when the
camera was off like a podcast, when the cameras are ayo, bro,
you know I had to do that. Sorry, Like, but

(01:12:27):
when the cameras a on, he's the Probably he understands
he is a reality TV star, my nigga. Do y'all
know why Trump is rich? This nigga is a hustle.
You know how he's rich. Let me see what happened.
Trump was broke. The real estate was crasher. Trump was
flat broke. The nigga was losing everything. He was a rapper.
He did what a rapper would do. He said, oh, look,
my name good out here. How about this, y'all can

(01:12:50):
have all the buildings license the name from me. He
ain't had no more debt when he had upside. That's
how he made all his money. If you say he
literally was like to think about that. He made all
his money with his name. He convinced these people his
name had value and they kept it on buildings. And
now he's in the black. You see what I'm trying

(01:13:11):
to say. But when he was trying to own the building,
he had to figure out his business model. And I
hate talking about him like I fuck with him like that,
but I fuck with greatness. I don't care if I
don't like it. I'm giving a fuck. If you're a
red nacka and he did something to win, I want
to learn it because nigga, I want to do that
for my family. So sometimes I think we be just
frying that greatness because theyre on the red side when
we're on the blue side. Nigga, I don't give a fuck.
I want to learn from every side. So for me,

(01:13:31):
I just look at Trump like he just understands nigga's entertainment.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
But what I want to understand is and like you know,
they feel like I'm a Trump supporter, I'm just a
supporter of a nigga that's being themself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
What all understanding is why voting nigga in didn't feel
like a nigga wrong. Somebody had to vote him in. Well,
that's what I think. So to me, I didn't vote
for him. I voted for Kamaa. But but why did
you vote for Cacama? Because I got a daughter and said,
I can't tell my daughter, as she could be the
president of the United States. If I can't vote for
a woman, that's her complexion, that that's going for So

(01:14:06):
did you really want her to be the president? The truth?
You know what? You know? What you know?

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
No? I got something like and what no no no
no no no no no no no. I love what
you're saying. So here's how my mind works, mamember. I
told y'all ran these people. That's to help me see
the world differently. Here's how my mind works. I said
to myself, if Kamala went by the way, I call
my lady right now, she'll tell you anybody with me.
I talked to my people, I said, Yo, look, if
Kamala wins, what is God trying to tell us? Think

(01:14:34):
about it. I Kamala wins, we know what the world's
gonna be. It's gonna be more euphoria. You know, more
like same sex marriages, you know, transgender rights and everything else.
I'm like and I'm like, you know what, if God
wants that, then God gonna make her win. If God
wants Trump to win, Trump's gonna win. Now. God could
want Trump to win for the wrong reasons. By the way,

(01:14:55):
just because God said he wants them to win, don't
mean that he loves Trump. It might be I want
him to win because I wanted to teach y'all. Ass
is a lesson. That's what y'all want. I'm gonna give
it to y'all. So that's might be worse. But for me,
my perspective was more or less how I'm gonna approach
the world based on who won, because if Kamala went
like Trump winning killed media. Trump winning helped us. It
helped us because he didn't talk to mainstream media, and

(01:15:18):
mainstream media was against him, Like if you turn on
ABC the View, they don't even say his name like
it was like saying Trump name was almost like blasphemed
like nigga, you said his name in here, like we
don't want him to be the president again. But he won,
So that means the people that was voting with niggas
like us that got tired of arguing, tired to convince
telling people that I don't like what she's doing over there. Oh,

(01:15:38):
we don't even hate him, you know what. They just
voted for him. So for me, I look at it
like God wanted him to win for whatever reason he is,
and I'm just paying attention to what that is. That's
why I'm like, six months from now, I'm really just
living my life in real time, Like let's see what happens,
because something is gonna happen, Something crazy is gonna happen
in the next six months, and that's gonna trigger our
country to go in the direction I'm telling you, like

(01:15:59):
death happens, and when death happens, it changes us. Like nigga.
White people was like not with black people until they
saw George Floyd. They was like with with y'all. Now, damn,
that's how y'all get treated. Something about that. Something is
gonna happen, The police are gonna do something. Something's gonna
bad gonna happen, and that's when we're gonna all have
to look at ourselves and be like, we gotta stop.
And I'm just hoping that that comes in the next

(01:16:19):
three months rather than six. You think UFO is real, Yes,
if based on what it is the word ufo, Yes,
the UFO is an unidentified flying object that could be
anything in this guy that we don't know. That's why
they call UFOs because we can't confirm it that aliens

(01:16:42):
or not. I will say this, I absolutely think they exist,
because why the fuck do we have Area fifty one?
Why we need why do we need a secret place
that nobody can know about for secret things nobody can
know about? And everybody says it's aliens and no one
else came out and said it's not for aliens. It's
in our face. So I think aliens is this, and
I think the country knows it. I think they living
amongst us. I ain't even lie to you, bro, I

(01:17:04):
think they living amongst us. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Like yeah, like when they called it shape shape ship,
Yeah no more more more men in black.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
But yeah, I just think they did amongst what it
looks like. I don't know what it looks like. I
have no idea, but like nigga, man, nigga, do y'all
realize that we only know ninety five percent of the
ninety seven percent of the species in the ocean. I
don't even think they know that much, nigga, think about that.
I mean, it's ninety of things down there we don't
know what you said, you said we do. I think

(01:17:39):
we don't. Yeah, I think I said we don't. We
only know three percent of the we don't know the
other It's ninety seven percent of things in the ocean,
we don't even know what they are. That's my point
in them aliens, Nigga. I've seen some ship on page
up all like what the fuck is that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Me?

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
So to me, I do believe they. I do believe
they live amongst us, and I just and I don't
think they want to harmors though, because they did, they
would have they would have been got us, they would
have fucked us up. By now, I think the deeper
you go in the ocean is a different world, like
the further you go in the sky. I've been I've
been fascinated with like the ocean, and just like I
watched all these videos over there, you just start seeing
fish you never seen like you see fish you can

(01:18:14):
see through Like, what the fuck is that? Like? I'm like,
I believe that, Yeah, I do believe. I believe that
they live amongst us. I think that they don't want
no problems with us, and I think the government knows.
You think AI is to the beginning of the end? Yeah,
I think, uh, I think so. I've been reading on stuff.
They said that and by the time in ten years,

(01:18:36):
you will have the ability to live forever based on AI.
In ten years you have the ability to live for Oh,
but you gotta be you have to turn yourself into
like an AI bot to do it. So do I
think to me that scared of the shot me because

(01:18:56):
I'm like you, I'm like, hold on ten years, hold on,
I might be able to see my lit, my kids forever.
That's a man. I can see my great great great great.
And then you're like, hold on, No, hold the fuck on,
what's the what's the other side of that? What comes
with that? So you gotta be an AI bot? So yeah,
I think that. I think that humans are gonna I
think humans are gonna fuck it up because that's where
we are. The same humans that voted for Trump are
gonna fuck up the world. Like and by the way,

(01:19:17):
if you were worth for Kamala, I think it would
have been the same thing. I just think that. I
just think that we don't know what's best for us.
Y'all know that the Earth has been around for hundreds
of millions of years and the human species has only
been around ten thousand of those. That's that's think about that,
hundreds of millions of years and we've only been around
ten What the fuck was earth like before? Then? I
feel we might be the aliens. We might be the aliens,

(01:19:42):
my nigga, like, honest to God, like we have when
we die, when we want to go up back to
the sky. We might be the aliens. Seriously, because it's like,
how the fuck we've been around ten thousand years and
like what and look at how much? Look how much
fucking Look how much we've made in the last one
hundred years. I think I remember watching movie in the
agies you can face time. Somebody was like, that's never
gonna be in my lifetime. Now I FaceTime all day

(01:20:03):
like we society has moved too fast, and we get
bored too fast, and we're gonna eventually kill ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
You get too smart. That what it is, the niggas
too smart. That's why I feel like I feel like
everything that's here now has been here before me too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
I feel like it's just a cycle.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Everything is just coming back around, you know what I'm saying,
Like anything, just everything, Like it's been a it's been us,
it's been crime, it's been seeing, it's been everything.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
It's just you know what I'm saying. I feel like
I feel like we're hitting our peak as humans, Like
like we hit our peak. God was like, Okay, let
me see how y'all gonna be now that you got
everything y'all want, y'all can fly, y'all which'all want ai?
We want to be smarter? Okay. I think DejaVu is
just a reminder that you've been here before, because you
know what I say. I say DejaVu comes from dreams

(01:20:50):
because we have like a thousand dreams in our sleep.
We only usually remember the last one. But I think
that DejaVu comes from God sending us visions in our
sleep and hopefully that we catch it. But yeah, Ray Daniel,
what's next to Ray Dane? Man? You know what I'm
I created My company is called ray Dany's Presents, and
I'm trying to be the hip hop Tyler Perry. I

(01:21:12):
want on people like how and when I say that,
when you when church. Folks see Tyler Perry, they know
that's for them. When I want when people see Ray
Dane's presents, if you from the hip hop world, I
want you to know if it's that, that's for us.
So I want to be the Tyler Perry of hip
hop content, creation, conversation and everything around it. Hopefully I
get there, not hopefully. I want to what you're streaming

(01:21:34):
on again? YouTube? YouTube? No, I stream on YouTube. I
stream every I go. I do like eight, I do twitch, YouTube, Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, YouTube,
I do all at the same time. Oh okay, okay,
that's dope. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, you set it
up yourself. I got out my office and I'm about
to have my team said like, how you got this,

(01:21:55):
I'm about to have a setup at my house too.
I want to be at I want to be at
at like Bank. I really want to be able to
like I want to be able to go live at
ten o'clock and talk to a thousand people and it
be a totally different conversation in the morning conversation. Ah,
that's why I got that backroom instead of I'm like,
so I'm about to set I got an apartment in
my house. I'm about to set that up like like

(01:22:15):
a whole streaming where I can just go live because man,
I think that right now. Man, it's about connecting to
each other. And we don't have enough fellowship in our community.
And that's why when you hit me, I'm like nigga
coming because it's like this is fellowship. We don't have
enough brothers talking to each other about life and for
other brothers to see like like think about this, like, nigga,

(01:22:39):
have you ever heard of a nigga being in a
bar fight? Have you ever heard a niggas? I was
in a bar fight, Nah, cause niggas getting fights in
the club and we get I asked, well, what're we
going to the car? Somebody dying to night? White men
get the ass whipped and go up and all right
go home. Yeah, we'll go to the club. He got
me last week. Yep. We have to start showing that

(01:23:02):
black men can talk, even fight, but not kill each
other because the gift is always going back home to
our family and we gotta start taking our gift and
the gift thing to us. The gift is our family. Nigga.
I don't want to take no man from his family
I don't want nobody no matter what. So we just
got to figure out a way as black men to
talk to each other. And that's why I like this,

(01:23:23):
because this fellowship east Side and south Side. We still brothers,
like we still love this shit. And it's like, I
want to show young black men that you can talk
to each other, you can have conflict, you just don't
have to kill each other. And that's why I use
the word brother. If you see me real my brother.
I always say my brother because I read something that
it's harder to kill your brother, that is to kill
a nigger. So when you call somebody a nigga, it's

(01:23:43):
easy to kill a nigga. I killed that nigga last night.
It's hard to say I killed that brother. Like you
killed that brother? Why'd you kill him? What do you
do to you? The word? So for me, I'm just
trying to I'm trying to live my life allowed to be,
to show what an excellent black man looks like, that's
still cool as a motherfucker and still get money. Really
ship niggas. What's better than that? Tell him what to
tap in there with you man? Follow me everywhere, Ray

(01:24:05):
Daniels everywhere. Fuck with me. Man, by the way, thank you,
thank you. I needed this conversation because I was like,
I'm talking to Bank, because you know, I talked to
my team. I'm like, I knew he's gonna come with
some ship that no one's have asked me. I'm like,
that's all I wanted to come here. I'm like, this
niggas see, I did big facts and another thing. I
wanted to see the difference. I did big facts of Bank.

(01:24:25):
I'm like, let me see the perspective. I appreciate that
you gotta come through our shre one day. Bro, Man,
you know, whenever you read it, argue with these niggas
one day. Little niggas can't wait wait. Thank you for
having me.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Man, make sure y'all lights to strive. Come into the
Big Fat Network taping my doll Ray das Man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
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Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
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