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August 25, 2025 65 mins

In this episode of Perspecktives, Big Bank sits down with special guest Dominique—better known as Baby D—for a candid and powerful conversation about self-discovery, motherhood, and her unique path as a bodyguard. Dominique opens up about the challenges of identity, the lessons learned through nurturing relationships, and the transformative power of forgiveness. She reflects on her evolution from providing security to serving as a mentor, highlighting the importance of empathy, instinct, and authenticity in both work and life. The discussion also explores societal issues, the influence of social media, and Dominique’s vision for the future, offering an inspiring look at resilience, growth, and purpose. Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this. How you are now
in June to Perspectives with Big Bang.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get straight to it.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Protect your energy, protect your heart, protect you at all costs.
Welcome to Perspectives Bank. Today, I got my dog the Queen.
I'm gonna call you baby d Dombnique, baby D in
the build.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm awesome.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
How you feeling?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I feel amazing.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Where your energy at? This is what I always ask.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Energy is at an all time high. I'm in this
place of rebirth and growth, and I.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Feel good what they consist of.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
So I'm transitioning from security. I'm going into vibe creating.
I'm focusing more on my mentorship. I'm just seeing what's
next for me. So I'm really excited about life right now.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Okay, let's let's go back to your journey. Let's start
from the beginning first, before you jumped off the porch.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, let's see.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
I am originally from New London, Connecticut, small small, small town,
only black girl in my school. My dad, he was
in the Navy, So we end up in Virginia. Now
I'm with the black kids. So you know, I went
through this weird identity crisis. Almost I was too black
for the white kids and too white for the black kids. Wow,
I really didn't have a place, so I want to

(01:22):
say till maybe like twenty five, I struggled trying to
figure out who I was. I went from the private school,
good girl to the trap like thugging, thugging, thugging. So
that's how I ended up in security, got into a fight,
lost my nurse and license. The club owner was like, hey,
you beat these charges.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I seen you. I got a job for you, and
it just it took off from there. My first client
was Beanie Siegel.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Randomly. He met me at a club. His sister had
problems getting in, and.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I, yeah, I did what I did.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Listen. They was giving her so much hard times.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
I'm like, do you know who she is? Like you
got your mind? I'm walking her inside. I bucked on
my boss everything.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh oh, I.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Thought you to my beans.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
No he was.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
He was performing that night and they had left his
sister at the door trying to let her in and
not buck and he walked a inside.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
He's like, you brought my sister and I'm like yeah.
He's like I like.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
You you got something to you? And I'm like Oh,
I ain't think nothing of it. It's been a story
in my life. I do things that are major and
don't think they're major. But from there, he was like,
I want you to drive from me. So I drove
for him that weekend and people were like, Bean's.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Got a girl driving him around. She got to crazy
and just took off.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
So he was in Philly with him too.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, I was just here. It was just in Virginia.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, yep, And that's what he was saying. He was staying.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
No, he came into the show.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Okay, okay, I came and performed.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
At the club, and I'm sure to him it was nothing.
But for me, I opened the door.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, he gave it. Let you it solidifies
it to yourself. Yeah. So yeah, so you went to
the military.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
No, my son is in the military and my dad
was in the military. Oh, I didn't go. How are
your son, he said, we're about to say seventeen. He's nineteen.
Now he's a big boy. He's in the Marine Corps.
So I'm super proud.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
It's your only kid.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Now I have another son. He is on a federal vacation. Okay,
it's been there since he was sixteen, he'll be home
in September.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
In an adult ADULTA okay, and you say so he
ain't had to whoop no ass at the private school.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Oh god, no, I was scared to fight. I didn't
know I could fight. I didn't know I could fight.
So I got hit in my mouth and it was like, oh,
this girl just I had never been in a fight before. Wow,
first fight ever in my whole life. I was twenty
four years old.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
So how did you start, Like when you become became
like security, how did you how did you bring that out?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You know what I'm saying getting hit at all time?

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, that one time it unlocked that dog in me,
I guess, and it was like it, don't play with me.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Don't play with me. Ever, I ain't big for no reason.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
And it was crazy because I transitioned from being overly
aggressive to being kind of calm and quiet with my aggression.
But when I first started security, Oh please, I would
knock and everything lose. Why Yeah, I was like I'm
not just a pretty girl, like, don't play with me.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
So how you how you think just your military upbring
with your dad being in the military, how you think
that shaped Like?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
So for me, it was more my mom.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
My mom and my father that got married when I
was like eight or nine. He's my stepdad, but I
consider him my dad. But my most influence came from
my mother. My mother was a cractions officer. She worked
her way up the ranks.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
With that.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
It's always been hustle and grinding work, male dominated fields.
It doesn't matter that you're a woman. So that's where
I really got that from. My dad gave me the
discipline and the training like early he you know, developed
my love for firearms, hand in hand combat, that type
of stuff. But my core came from my mama.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay, and your mom is black, your dad is.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Blackm it's Panamanion. And my biological father is Jamaican, So.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah that Jamaican ja. So how did that play a
roleing like you'll come up?

Speaker 4 (05:14):
So my biological father was not in my life. Unfortunately
I didn't get to meet him. He died before I did.
That played a major significant role for me in life.
I like I said, my identity crisis, I'm like, my
daddy didn't give a damn about me. He ain't cared
nothing about me. But let me prove my point, Like
you should have been around, and that was the driving

(05:35):
force for a lot of things I did. I rebelled
a little bit, you know, because I felt like my
mother wanted, you know, the pretty private school girl, the debutane,
and that didn't really fit me. So I felt like, yeah,
like I think I identified more with my daddy. I
think I'm one of them. So yeah, it was like
really finding figuring out who I was.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
So so when you finally figure out who you was,
what role did you want to take on?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I figured out who I was when I became a mother.
That really put me in a perspective like, Okay, this
role means more than any other role that I've played
over the years. I've decided that I'm a nurturer. I'm
a protector, but I don't have to be angry to
be a protector. So I've learned how to lead with
love and grace and I'm more gentle. So yeah, I

(06:24):
think one thousand percent I'm a protector. I'm a nurturer.
I'm like the Amazon women. I'm one of them. That's
what I was created to do.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
So So what you did, because you got two bulls,
what you did to make them respect you?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
So my oldest son I did not raise.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I had him very young. His grandmother raised him. But
my youngest son, that's not my best friend. I found
that with boys, when you communicate, it makes life a
lot easier. I didn't have to beat on him and
you know, be rough with him. We was, for lack
of better words, we was nigga and nigga. Amen, it's

(07:01):
me and you ain't nobody else.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I understand. We got different makeup.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
But we got this.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
We got this like I'm not gonna lie to you.
Don't lie to me.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
And when I say, that's that's my dog, my youngest son.
We're two peas in the pod and I thank God
for that. Like our relationship is tight. He don't lie
to me about nothing. And I can strongly say.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
That, how long you been in Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (07:23):
For about to be five years?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Okay, So so did he? He came to Atlanta, which
that's why he got in trouble down here.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
No, my oldest son, he got in trouble in Virginia.
My youngest son has never been in no trouble.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Oh so who uh? Which one is in my oldest
son I didn't raise. He's in jail. Yeah, which one
is in the Navy Marines, a marine son.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Oh okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, So you're oldest
is how he's twenty one? Now, okay your young nineteen?
Okay okay, okay, okay. Yes, oh so so the baby
boy he had in his business?

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yes, he he don't play. I'm so impressed with him.
I feel like I did a good job.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So what's some things you do to try to mend
your relationship with your oldest son?

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Since we talked more, I really had to wait till
he turned eighteen. I joke and say I'm a baby
daddy because I'm on child support. Wasn't allowed to see
my son. If you don't want to be with me,
you can't see your son. Like yeah, mother, And it
was like, oh you don't want to be a wife,

(08:25):
you can't be a mother. And from seventeen when I
gave birth, until maybe about two years ago, we didn't
have any conversations, any interactions. He went to prison. I
knew nothing about it, and a friend of mine was
locked up and he called me like, hey man, Malachi
in here. I'm like, what what you mean? And from
there I hit the JPay like you know, I don't

(08:47):
know how you feel about me, but I'm here whatever
you want to know. Don't ever think I didn't love you,
never gave you away. I never chose one child over another.
I pray for you every single day, and by the
grace of God, he was receptive by.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
You going through that in your own life. Did that
kind of give you a little forgiveness and grace to
your dad?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
A lot? A lot.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I think a lot of times when we mature and
we really look at our parents as humans before parents exactly,
we're really starting to understand everything's not cut and dry.
It's not always what you think it is. You know,
they think they feel just like.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Us, and shit happens.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, So why you tell my son when they were younger, like,
when you get your own, bitch, you gonna say.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Change?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, so so so so basically you got forgiveness.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
You gave forgiveness through won't and forgiveness.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yes, yeah, that's something I live by every day. I
tell my son, I tell my friends, I give the
grace that God gives me, and it makes it a
lot easier for me to understand people and tolerate people,
because good people do bad shit, you.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Know, So what you what you feel like the main
thing you gotta do to like not winning him over,
but to get him to understand and not resent be honest.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, even when honesty is embarrassing, when it's painful, when
it's awkward, when it's uncomfortable, honesty trumps everything. And it's like,
you may hate me, you may never want to talk
to me again, but you can't say I lie to you.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
That's real shit. You're gonna respect me. The truth gonna
make him respect in fact, So back to the to
the bodygun. What's the most like the weirdest moment you had.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Oh gosh, let's see. The weirdest moment I had was
recently I shot Could Have Been Love with Drewski and
we were shooting an elimination scene and Meatball she's, you know,
well known in the influencer community.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
She was a contestant on the show. And she was like,
I got a pee. I got a pee And.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
They're like, no, we're filming, We're a filming. She's like,
fucking I'm about to pee. She's stood right there, Pete,
right at the pool ten fifteen people plus production and.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I'm like this girl, just Pete. Yeah, it made.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
It into the edits on the show, and I'm like,
did she really just stay in here and pete? But
it was hilarious, and one thing I appreciated about her
she understands that comedic response. So to her, She's like,
I'm gonna make y'all laugh, And I'm like, girl, so.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
What was that moment that you had a little fear
like spooks you?

Speaker 4 (11:26):
I recently had that moment. I think a lot of
times I turned off emotion for work. That's what's made
me so good at my job. People always connect women
with overly emotional responses, so I've prided myself I'm not
responding emotionally. But recently I had a random drive by
happened while me and my client were getting food. He

(11:48):
wasn't the target, he didn't have anything to do with it.
We were just, you know, end of the event, letting
our hair down, and these young guys came through sprayed
us up twenty two shots in like thirty seconds.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
They were shooting at y'all. No, they were just shooting.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
They were shooting. I believe that they were in the
wrong location, to be honest, because what we were doing
had nothing to.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Do with anyone anybody else over there though.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
It was people like neighbors. It was a guy walking
his dog stopped at the taco truck.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
You know.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
It was it wasn't an event. It was just, you know,
a gathering of folks. And in that moment, I immediately
went into crisis response. And I looked down and my
friend was shot, my client, which is also my friend,
and he's bleeding out. He started turning gray, started falling asleep,
and I was like, oh, yeah, no, not on my watch.

(12:37):
So I pulled a bullet out of his arm, put
a turn achin on him, started singing the ABC's started praying,
yelling at him, wake up.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
We ain't going to sleep, what you're doing, what we
eating when we leave here? And it was like.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
I was terrified because all I could think was I
can't let this man die on my watch. Fact, I've
never had a situation with a client where it got
to that level.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I've been in plenty of shootouts.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
I've had plenty of times where I've had to get
a client to safety, but I've never had this happen.
And it's like, you're scared, but you can't be scared
because me being fearful make me make a mistake. I
can't make no mistake because I got to make sure
he go home.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Do you think that that incident played a part of
you just ending that journey right now?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
I have been back and forth with whether or not
I wanted to leave security for a while, because it's
what I'm known for, it's what i'm good at, it's
my comfort zone. But it's like, okay, God, you keep
giving me these signs. Now you've given me a drastic sign.
And I feel like a lot of times people don't
pay attention to the little signs. They wait till it
gets big, and I don't want it to get no bigger.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
So how do you know when it like just being
by the good? How you know when to have empathy
or when to use for us a chill or let
him have it?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Like? How do you determine that?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
It's instinct? It's like parenting. It's like you never really
know exactly what to do, but you know what to do.
Right your baby fall down and skin his knee. It's
like do I cuddle you up? And baby?

Speaker 2 (14:10):
You do?

Speaker 4 (14:11):
I tell you all right, It's a situation like that, Like,
especially being a woman, I have to be very, very
careful with how I come across, because if I'm too aggressive,
you're gonna shut down. Now I'm that angry black bitch
with the attitude problem. And if I'm too nice, you're
gonna think you can fuck me. So it's like you
just you just have to fill it out.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
You have to know.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
You have to learn people. One of the most important
things about being a bodyguard. You have to know body language.
You have to understand the stuff that's unspoken. You have
to notice when people look a certain way, when they
move their bodies a certain way. Instinct.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, so how is it dating?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Like?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know you can? Who got a and shit?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Like?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
How did it work? Well, nigga know you got a piston?

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
You blucking how did it go?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Dear man watching? I'm not.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
You get mad like nigga. We can hit it then and.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
See what's so funny is I'm the opposite. I've learned,
like I said earlier, when I learned how to turn
off that microaggression, I've learned how to calm my energy
and be soft and be feminine. My friend and I
have this thing right now, we're living the gentle life.
I don't raise my voice and I'll argue dating is
rough because most men either they think I'm a lesbian

(15:26):
or they think I'm like baby D baby D like it's.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Like, no, it's not that it's chasing. No. No, so
it's hard.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
And then then like recently, I got into a thing
with a guy because I value my business.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I value work. I'm hustling.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I got plenty of time to lay up, but I
got more time for this. And before I waste time
smiling in your face, I'm gonna go get you some money.
Unless you want me begging you for some money, I
could pull one of these, you know, typical nowadays. Girl moved,
I need five hundred. No, I'm gonna go get to it.
When I'm finished. Then I'm gonna lay up and do

(16:06):
all that cut ship. Let me handle my business first.
That doesn't go over well.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
It don't no what you think? Sin's your apart though.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
My character, I'm transparent. I don't lie. It's just that
big aries on march aries, big aris.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh you say you just don't tell lies? No to nobody.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I may lie to the people.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Get pulled over and asked you right here you've been drinking,
Say yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
No, sorry, but my daddy taught me a lot of people.
You fear, I don't fear anybody.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's real ship. Lie to the judge. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
But other than that, you like me. What I'm lying
to you for.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Exactly Now, that's real ship. That's a bar.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
So what let me ask you some you have had
one of these as an alema.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
I don't know what it is with Southern men. No
shade to the Southern men, but I don't know what
it is with Southern men. They feel like you get
a little spicy. I can knock your side, your.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Head and it's cool. Not Jack. You said, yeah, I
thought you said one of my holes.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I said one, I said, one of the holes like women?

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Oh yeah, No, I rarely have problems with women. Most
of my problem were with men.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
In the club. What you do to them?

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Fix them? Right on up?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
You thought it was so so like when you you
worked in the club. I have.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
I've worked in quite a few Atlanta clubs. I stopped
doing clubs about a year ago. But when I first
got here, nobody knew me, and I used my connections
with well known you know, security teams and bodyguards here
to get me in the door in certain clubs. I
did kod you know, I ran it up running. I
ran through all these strip clubs around here. I did

(18:01):
a couple, you know, regular clubs. I did Oak for
a while. Shout out to ant A lyric I love
them daily. But yeah, and it was never the girls.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Never.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
I could literally be sitting mine of my business, not
even involved in what's happening.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
And the dude be like, what you finna do, big bitch.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Sir, oh, and then it's over from there. They always
want to try me.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
It was one of the moments.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Oh, we have Future that night and it was loaded.
This was like at the peak peak future time, like
Future had Atlanta on a lot. They was charging ten
k for sections like loaded, and dude, you know how
these folks are when they feel important. Yeah, you move
the fuck out my weight, bitch.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
I'm like, yeah, nobody's coming this way. If you're not Future,
you're not walking past me. One thing I've been known
for with security, I'm I don't play. I don't care
who you are. I don't care if you're a millionaire,
I don't care. You could be Kevin las If I
said you're not walking past me, you're not walking past. Sorry,
I'm gonna embarrassed. Please don't And I don't know who
do was, but he attempted to spin on me and

(19:11):
it hit the side of my shoe, and before my
brain told me to, you know, de escalate, I laid
his ass clean on the ground.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I'm gonna sue you. Your god man, you went from
against the seer.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, he was gonna sue me. I'll wait on it.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
So, so you're saying you about to be a speaker, Like, yes,
what's gonna be your main topic?

Speaker 4 (19:35):
I've been doing it for a while now, it just
hasn't been on the big scale that God has put
in front of me, like some doors have opened for
me to really be heard. But when I say I've
been through everything, you can imagine when they say, you know,
God gives his hardest battles to his toughest soldiers, like
I'm the poster child. I've been through domestic violence, my
youngest son came from sexual assault, mental health problems. I've

(19:58):
been evicted seven times, I've been to jail thirty times.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Thank God, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
A feeling like God always snatches me up before it
gets too bad. And now that I understand that it's
because he wants to make me relatable. I could sit
down and have a conversation with anybody about anything. And
it's like everybody nowadays is preaching this. You can do it.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
You see what I've done. I'm still a work in progress.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
So watch me for real, Watch me and understand that
where you at is not where you have to stay,
and it's nobody's fault that you're there. Don't blame other people.
That's the biggest thing that I preach to folks.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Where you are.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Your choice has brought you there, and your choices can
pull you out. But if you continue to point fingers,
he ain't gonna go.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Nowhere's still standing. So you're saying you don't been through
hell and back, man.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
And what's so bad?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
As I did it to myself, I didn't have to
go through a majority of what I went through because
you know, according to everyone, I was raised right, two
parent household, private school, My parents got money on top
of money, very well off. Chose to jump off the porch.
I chose to start thugging. I chose to sell drugs.
I put myself in those positions. So it's like, yeah,

(21:07):
I drugged myself through hell, that was your journey though, Yeah,
it was thankful. Do you regret anything nothing. I don't
regret anything, Like when I say I don't regret anything,
even the moments when I was sitting in Hampa City
jail praying they didn't tell my mama because my mother
works in the courts.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I don't regret it. It made me who I am.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
How you think you gained the respect of like your coworkers.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
By being solid. I'm not the one you can pay
for a gun. I'm not the one that's fucking promoters.
I'm not the one you know, backdooring people for contracts.
That's never been me. What I say is what I mean.
I lead with love, but I'm not emotional. And like
I said.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
This cold, I lead with love, but I'm not emotional.
Y's and ship you say what?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
None? Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I was saying.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
So it's like, you know that typical woman thing, female security.
I mean, they're supposed to show up with nails to
the God's lashes, fist full of makeup, not doing no
work on the phone, flirting or I'm extra angry, extra rough,
and it's like I'm right in the middle. So I
bake the men with this pretty shit and be like,
oh she's so pretty, she's so nice, and like oh

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wait sure and play yeah I don't do.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
So how do you How do you keep a woman
from not being like just say, vincent a girl. You
know most women be kind of like, uh, she nig,
she probably on that. How do you like? What's your
approach to people?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Period?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
I'm always friendly and relatable. When I see, you know,
the group of black girls walking up, hay.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Girl, your haircute? How you doing today?

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I didn't notice I did it until Aunt said it
to me. He's like, you greet everybody that comes to
the door. When I was working doors, it was never
let me get your ID.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Hey, how you doing? How You're not going go in
here and turn up? Ain't it?

Speaker 4 (23:03):
And they're thinking I'm just being friendly? But me and
now I know what you look like, I know what
you have on. I've heard your voice. I paid attention
to your body. And it sounds crazy to say, but
even three four hundred people in the club, I know
who you are. So when they call and they say
such and such happened, and that's what she got. And
I know exactly who you are because when you walked
in last night. Well, you walked in that night, I

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spoke to you, I looked you in your eyes. We
had a brief little interaction and that's helped me a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
So I know.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
With just with the journey you got, I know it's
probably do you got people that you mentor do you
got people you talk to and try to help?

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Shout out to Mama Camp. She was dropped in my
path and I've been working with her with wifey Me
Mama Camp. She has an outreach for young ladies and
she's given me the opportunity to sit in with her
girls and talk to them, and that's on my path
what I and it's been amazing. It's been fulfilling for me,

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Like I've touched in with some things that I didn't
even know I needed to heal from.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
But I love it.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, you wouldn't baby it to mentoring nobody if you
ain't been through shit. That's the word, right.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
You can't so everybody be looking at their past and
blaming themself for what they went through.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
But you wouldn't baby to be great if you won't.
You know what I'm saying exactly.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I truly believe that that's why I do this ship
right here. It's like, I'm just telling my story. Man,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and you can't. You
can't get to it if you ain't went through it
as well.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Walk up on you. You said those exact words a
long time ago.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
You said that.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Literally, those are that word you said. You can't get
through it if you ain't go to it, if you
ain't been through it.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
That's facts, huh.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
And I had to run it back and I was
listening to you talking and you were like, yeah, I've
been through this, this, this and this, but here I
am and I wouldn't understand you. If I hadn't been here.
You and I couldn't have a conversation. I couldn't look
you in your eye.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
And I'm like, damn, bank said something. I felt that.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, I don't remember saying it, but it's the truth.
I'll never forget it.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Hey, let me ask you something, what what do the
ultimate healing look.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Like for you?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
The ultimate healing for me? Hmmm?

Speaker 4 (25:15):
I think that's when I actually slow down and give
myself my accohlades. Everybody praises me, and it's still weird
for me. Like my friend tells people she saved my life.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
And in my mind I didn't.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Do anything, or I have people like shell Jeezu's guard.
I need the best female security guard out here. And
I'm like, oh, even down to people telling me I'm pretty,
I'm like, I'm all right, Like earlyer, I'm freaking out
because I don't know how to do makeup.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
So I'm freaking out, like.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I gotta find a makeup ARTI I can't go on
bank show without makeup. And my friend was like, you're pretty,
you don't need I think healing for me is when
I get to the place where I'm able to tell
myself like you did it, You're you're dope, you're her.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah I can say it, but I.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Don't feel it yet, So I fuck with that. I
fuck with that. What about what does like a stable
uh stable mental health look like for you?

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Like I think I'm there, I'm catching myself. You ain't
never caught yourself like age just cho oh here, Yeah
I never did that. I never had those checks with myself.
And now I'd be like, you know what, relaxed, Ain't
that serious?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
So that's your regiment? Yes, what else do you do
outside of that?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I pray, I pray a lot, I talk to God
all day.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
I'm sure you know the super Christians will tell me
I'm wrong, but I'll smoke a joint and talk to God.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I might cut. They can't tell you how to talk.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
I mean, like, Lord, they got me fucked up down
He says, come as you are. God says in the
same Bible that they preach to us to come as
you are. And I don't think that means clothing.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Man, I might hear God with the police. I'm having
bra What the fuck man.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
These folk? So?

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yeah, I just I pray, I meditate a lot, I
do yoga. I just I've learned to calm my energy
and relax myself.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
So, so do you feel like so?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
You do? You don't you feel like you've discovered your strength?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I finally have.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
So what would you tell a person that's trying to
discover this stream?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Be patient with yourself. Yeah, you don't match up to
anybody's standard. That's something I also struggled with growing up.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
You know, so and so did such and such. You
know how black mamas are because so.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
And so got honor rolling, y'all saying get honor roll
this year, and that stuck with me, and over the years,
I always compared myself to others, and I would say
to people who are on their journey, it's your journey.
You don't measure to anybody. You're not on anybody's timeline.
It's between you and God. The faster that you block
out those outside influences, the better off you'll be. When

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you're finding yourself, you go to get by yourself. You
gotta get stone cold. For me, it was hiking. I'm
hiking up the Cocker.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Mills and I'm coming to the one on the twenty
three years.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Always watch me the one. Watch everybody come to the
next one. The next one.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
I'm gonna hand you on machilae. Don't be worried about it.
But no, like seriously, that's what it was for me.
I've always had cheerleaders around me, yes man, people telling
me how great I was, ignoring the fact that I
was mentally in one unstable because I benefit them. Yeah,
And once I got tired, keep going to jail, you
keep getting put out. I got tired, and those people

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who are tired understand that your journey has not ended
by far. It's time for you to get by yourself.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Trying to secure yourself.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
That's the one. That's the one.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
So if you just had the like your mission is
to basically help people that come from where we come
from get through it, right, Yes, So how would you
describe your message?

Speaker 4 (29:04):
My message is that of internal healing above anything. My
message is loving yourself before you can love anything else.
My message is being honest with yourself. I am straightforward,
I'm cutthroat, I'm raw. I'm not gonna dress it up
for you. I'm not gonna sprinkle sugar on it. We're
gonna get down to it. And that's where I'm at.

(29:24):
I'm unapologetic and transparent. So anybody who comes to me,
anybody who needs me, anybody who wants a vice from me,
be prepared to be honest with yourself. Before you're honest
with me, you're gonna be completely naked in front of me.
So that's my message, full transparency and honesty. People do
a good job of hiding who they are. So you

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see them on the outside looking in and you think
they got they shit together. You don't know when they
go home, they eat, they gun every night, they just
don't pull the trigger, or they don't want upside their
wife head, or they get so drunk they just sleeping
with whoever to feel something coke up, they nose, they
down bad. But when you see him, they got this
suit on, smell good. They driving it two hundred million

(30:06):
dollar card that duck and the Repo man parking at
their homeboy house.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
So no, we're not doing that no more.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
How do you keep u How do you keep from
contradicting yourself through temptation?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I do?

Speaker 4 (30:22):
I don't stop it. That's who I am. If I
pretend like I don't follow the temptation or contradict myself,
how real can I really be? Why am I going
to hide who I am just because I'm on a
platform I can stand up to the comments in the blogs.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I don't give a damn about that.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
You watching me fuck them?

Speaker 4 (30:41):
That part, you watching me fucking and feeding beans, That's
what my daddy say.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I'm not gonna hide who I am. I'm flawed. You
do fucked up shit every day.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
You don't feel like, uh what you think? People most
misunderstand about you.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
They think I'm rough. They think I'm rough. They think
I'm misunderstand They don't think I understand. They think I'm
just so linear, so harsh. They think I'm the angry
black girl. None of that.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
What makes them think that?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Now when you first meet me, you're gonna be like,
wo shit, you didn't get that.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
But most people set me.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Most people don't meet me in the setting you met
me in. Most people meet me with a bulletproof vest on.
But most people meet me in that capacity or you know,
my day job. I work for the State of Georgia
in a position where I have to be sterned. So
it's like they meet me in those capacities and they

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don't think. They don't think I have a heart. I
think I'm just just a dog. It's like, no, far
from that.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
What's your proudest moment?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I've had so many.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
My most recent protest moment was my son graduating from
boot camp, going into the Marine Corps and accomplishing a
goal he'd wanted to be a marine since he was
eight years old. Like I told you, we've been evicted
seven times. I've been a jail in front of my son,
and I've heard over and over he's going to turn
out like me. My instability, my mental health is going

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to mess his life up. He's not going to graduate,
He's not you know, so many things he wasn't going
to do because he was coming from a single parent household.
He's a product of a rape. He didn't have, you know,
a father around, just me and him, and I'm bouncing
him here, there and everywhere. And it's like, no, the
best parts of me are in that kid.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, So I get it, cause it's like Nigga asked me, Yeah,
that's me living again right now.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Like Nigga, that's a product of me. Nah, I get
that real shit. So it's like, yeah, yeah, you shining for.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Us, that's the one.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Real shit. That's the one what made you laying on Atlanta?
Like what made you stay here? Who?

Speaker 4 (32:51):
I had a few clients here, nothing that was consistent.
And God, forgive me, Mama, I love you. I'm sorry.
I lied to my parents and told him I had
a job here.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Shit, you did eventually barely.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
And it's so crazy. The job that I told my
parents I have is the job that I do.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Now.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
That's how full circle God went for me. Like I
typed up the employment letter, the whole nine yards and
I just left. I knew that if I stayed in Virginia,
I wasn't gonna do nothing. I had gotten into some
shit I got into a shootout and I thought I
killed the boy. Thank god I didn't, but I thought
I killed the boy. And I came here not even
a week later, left all my furniture in my apartment.

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Fuck On paid for Airbnb in Lakewood. He'd never been
to Atlanta ever. I'd never come here before, like literally
never been here before, paid for the airbnb, lied to
my parents, told him I had a job, put my
son in the car and came here, no plan, no nothing.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
And I was like, you know what, I'm not leaving.
This is it.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's why I can say, out of all the cities
in the world, would make Atlanta different.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
It was close, and I knew that Atlanta was a
place for black women. When it came to business. Everybody
told me that, like you you pretty, you speak well,
Atlanta's where you want to go. They love black women
in business in Atlanta. And I'm like, all right, We're
going to see gas. Ran out and had no more
money for gas.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I'm here, hey, like being in the club, Like, how
hard is it not? The guy dam just started vibing out,
like while you're at work.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
It depends on the DJ. I've got some moments with
Atlanta DJs. I'm like, oh he's rocket, Like no, Dominic,
you at work, You're at work, relaxed like and then.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Like camp k Camp is like a brother to me.
I love him dearly. He hits a stage, I'm over
there like shoddy as still wait.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Wait wait no, no, no, no, no, yeah what what? What?
What artists that you meet that you kind of fanned
out on.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Like I fanned out over jay Z Real real Bad
and I don't think he probably doesn't know who I am?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
What nothing?

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Him and Gilly stand out over Gilly real Bad in Detroit.
I actually got to tell Gilly like like, I told
you one of the smartest people I've ever met in
my life.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
And you you've molded me.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
But yeah, when I met Jay, I had the pleasure
of doing the artist compound for the very first Something
in the Water and Pharrell brought Jay and I had
to go around and make sure that each artist had security.
And he looked at me and he was like, you
do security? And I was like, he's like, you're a
pretty girl. I lost my ship.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
What he couldn't tell me nothing. I'm like, jay Z
told me I was pretty, can take it to me?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
So yeah, damn. So you say it depends on the DJ.
How they racking.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I like that old Atlanta music.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
No LIKEE you would think I was from here like
I love Kells bounced music. I'm a crazy Guat fan,
like Gucci Man got the soundtrack of I was literally
my plug was coming down here grabbing beans, and whoever
he was grabbing them from was giving him Gucci Man mixtapes.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
He was giving me the mixtapes when he was serving me.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
So I'm really riding around my town listening to Gucci
Man like you couldn't tell me I want from Ze six.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
So yeah, they get to play that on the letter ship.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Gut Lila at your way too.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Virginia loves Gucci back then.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
The old Gucci held out there too.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
He was really our soundtrack.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
So that's the first thing come to your mind with
his don't see it, Guba, let me see what about?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
So you would never leave what you ever leave? Atlanta?

Speaker 4 (36:24):
I think I'm a rolling stone type. So I think
when God tells me it's.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Time to go on the slide, where would you go?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I'm looking at San Francisco. I like it there.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
That's a long asway.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
I'm one of them. I'm drastic. Like if I say
I'm going, I'm going, and I'm not going to South Carolina,
I'm out of there.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Where your baby station at.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
He is in North Carolina right now. He's getting ready
to go overseas. So it's like what they say, Mama
got to have a life too.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Nah, for sure. You say, so what you gonna do?
Are you gonna do like speaking like live audience or
what you're just gonna do online?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
How my goal?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
My goal is to get to a platform where I'm
invited to speak for large groups. I've done it a
few times, but it's never been like a paid thing.
But with what I'm doing with these events and you know,
cure they calls vibe curators. Now that's the title. With
what I'm doing with that, that's something that I feel
like will put me in a position to travel a lot.
And I also I don't do as much bodyguard work,

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but I got one or two clients that I'll stick
with forever.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
So who you look at, look look at you know,
like in that space, it's like, yeah, I can see
myself being like this person.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Truthfully, nobody. I don't want to be like anybody, not.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Like them, per se but how they come off like
et that nigga to me e T and Ikey Johnson,
them them niggas.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
You know what I'm saying. I can listen to them
niggas all day, but I don't want to be like
them niggas.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
But but you know what I'm saying, it's just like
because it's hard for me to feel some shit. Yeah,
you know, tell them always like he ain't to my ship,
but that nigga e t Everie Tumls and goddamn Inca
Johnson and passed the key on.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Like I'll be like, yeah, now passed the key on
for sure. Yeah, I'll be like, yeah, them niggas on
one once.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
And I love Sarah Jakes Roberts.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Oh yeah, I love My Mama bought me a book
of hers and I read it two, three, four times over.
I love Sarah Jakes Roberts. I will say it's not
that I don't lead with the most high you know God,
But I don't want to be a preacher, nah, because.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
You ain't got to preach out the Bible to be
a preacher. If you if you if you motivating a person,
that that's changed. The preaching ain't never changing lives right.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
So if you if you speaking, if you speaking the word,
if you're speaking the real word, you change a line.
I'm about to get some words, and first word come
to your mind. I want you to say the first
I'm Geese words, and then you say the first thing
come to your mind.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Okay, you ready? Trust my son? Lies? Everybody breakups?

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I love them.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Toxicity, niggas, standards me, boundaries needed, frequency.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
It's the highest point of energy.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Passion.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
You gotta have it to live. Spontaneous another you gotta
have it to live.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Dms, stay out of mind. Manipulation. Everyone manipulates, gas lighting.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I still don't know what that means.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Just being real me neither forgiveness essential social media.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Hated and love it.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
A I hated and love it fifty fifty.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Let's not do that. Get me out of it.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
By nancial freedom, hoping for it. Expectations, don't have them.
Elimination gotta go asap, baby daddy, fuck them, linger, don't
Obsession depends on what it is. Moving on.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Hurry up, do.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
It, revenge, don't do it?

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Healing essential Really shit, baby daddy, you say, fuck him absolutely?

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Why gotta give him the grace? I gotta practice what
I preached. My oldest son's father is in his space
of healing. He ain't where needs to be yet. He's
still very bitter. Like I said, I feel like a
baby daddy. I pray that at some point he matures

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and we get to a better space.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
But fuck him.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
So if you, if you would ever write a book,
would it be about your life or would it be
a self help book for other people?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
It'd be about my life.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I'd sprinkle some self help in there, but it would
definitely be about my life.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Well, your book about your life would be self help
because you would have to say how the things you
overcame right?

Speaker 1 (41:30):
So what do you read? Books?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I read all the time.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
What's your favorite one?

Speaker 4 (41:34):
John Grisham is my favorite author, so anything by him.
Rick Ross's book, I listened to that on tape for
a while. Gucci Man's book, I listened to that over
and over. I'm not real big on self help books.
I really prefer biographies. The autobiography of A Side of
Chakur is my number one favorite.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Book of all time. What it is about outside of Chakour.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
She was in the Black Panther Party. She was a
cues of killing a State trooper. She didn't do it.
You know, they put the bounty on her head. She
was on the FBI's Most Wonderless for years to ported
her to Cuba. But she's another one that don't play.
She don't play by her people. She's not gonna play
with you. She ain't scared of you. If she gotta
up it on you, she gonna up it on you.
And you're not gonna play with her.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
And you tell me how the nigga got you? Tell
about up and what kind of pistons you got today?

Speaker 2 (42:27):
At FN S nine, what's that? I love?

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Fns are my favorite. I got a little tiny wrists
and then lightweights.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Sold about No, I hate them.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Why somebody needed to tell these kids sticks or make
everything inaccurate? You use a stick, it's by the time
you get to shoot and it's hot and bullets going everywhere,
you're not gonna hit your man.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
He needs shooting enough of them. They need shooting enough
of them because.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
They think they look cool. I feel like that's what
it's the visual effect. You got this.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Going.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Now you're dealing with somebody who really shoot. They're gonna
your ad now right?

Speaker 1 (43:03):
What about those switches?

Speaker 4 (43:04):
I can't stand them. I can't stand them sticks and
switches irk me. I don't like them like my fn
on eighteen shots, I only need two or three, if
even that. But then again, they're doing drills. They're not
doing what our generation did. Ain't nobody walking nobody down? Yeah,
they in the car perked up driving past. They don't
how the gumption and the balls to walk you down. Yeah,

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they're not like us.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, you're right, so you're saying, but damn don't switches
deadly though.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
I can't stand them. That's what we hadn't with the incident.
When you asked me about my fear, it was a switch.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Oh for real? So you couldn't get off. I was
hot too, make it where you can't get off hot? Yeah,
gotta get down.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
My immediate instinct was to clear everybody out, make sure
everybody was safe. Yeah, retaliation was not everybody. Why you
hate how how they down the street. So I'm supposed
to innocent, and I'm supposed to endanger more lives by
shooting when they down the street already they came through
with a switch.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
What I'm supposed to.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Do, yeah, niggas is making sure they get away. Yeah,
shooting and running scary. Ain't nothing gangst about it.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Damn. So do we adapt? Yes, I'm saying, do we do?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
We get us a switch, mindus sweat?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's a double ashed sword. What do you do?

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Because it's like, I don't agree with it. I think
switches you scary as hell. You pull out a switch,
But at the same time, you're not finna do nothing
to me?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
So what do I do?

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Do I continue to infect my population by matching your
energy or do I be a victim.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Case twenty two?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:47):
If you change one thing in the world, what would it.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Be people's patience with each other. I think that if
people had more patience and gave more grace, it would
lead to understanding. When you under an overstand it changes
the dynamic and the trajectory of a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Why you think people don't lost patient though, Well, did
they ever have it?

Speaker 4 (45:08):
I don't think they ever had it? And I think,
like I told you, I love and hate social media.
Social media has made it easy for assholes to find
each other. It's easy to find a group of jackasses
who think just like you, and once you get enough
of them, you feel validated. So what you need patients
with other people for I got fifty niggas over here
who think just like me.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Why gotta be nice.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
To you or understand your journey or give you grace.
I just listen to the people who telling me I'm right.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Facts.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Fact, social media is this shit is a gifting, a curse.
You're right, because the way it going now is like
you need it. Yeah, once you don't enter that world,
you gotta stay in that motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
You gotta keep it going, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
What I'm saying. It's like you behind. I don't know, man.
I think the world just evolved. I think. And I
was just thinking about this on the trail this morning
because I went I went hiking in morning, and I
was just thinking, like when this shit just start. It's
always been bad, It's always been crime has always been niggas,
Hating has always been niggas. But the weird shit started

(46:12):
when COVID passed.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Ever since then, people been passing that like unexpected, people
been dying. But like after that helicopter dropped, then COVID
then god, damn, just all type of shit, just like
damn back to back.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
What year was that?

Speaker 4 (46:31):
Twenty twenty COVID was twenty twenty when I moved here.
I moved here in November.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Google work year COVID passed. I think he passed in
twenty twenty. Yeah too. Yeah. So it's like, because you
know they said that the world's supposed to end it
in what year?

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Two thousand, two thousands?

Speaker 4 (46:50):
We was all up at night on January thirty first,
nineteen ninety nine. Let me tell your first ninety nine, like, oh,
what's gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Y two k he was.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
When January YEP started the yell. So it's like, I
think twenty twenty was the beginning of the end.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. I
don't think our generation is gonna see the end, but
it's coming.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
How do you think the en't gonna be? Like, let's
go to conspiracy theory.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
I've been back and forth between the Big Bang theory
and then just dying out extinction theory.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
I can't. I'm kind of on the fence.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
What's dying out intention extinction?

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Like we like the dinosaurs, We're just gonna slowly die out, and.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
It's gonna be the AI here, the computers.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
The Christians say it's gonna be the rapture.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I thank yd man. It's gonna be some of that.
It's gonna be a new fight.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, the big Bang theory.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, I think that's what's gonna happen. Trump gonna suck around,
do it for?

Speaker 2 (47:55):
He leave mass casualties because.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
He want them niggas that are gone and pushed the
bunch to show them, folks just because I'm saying, like
he temperament is fucked up. I know he'll Gemini like me.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
He'll crash all the way out, all the way out,
like fuck it.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Y'all need to think that. Why you keep on getting
you two weeks pool? After the two weeks up?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
What do we do?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah? Now I got to show you.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
He keeps saying, I'm gonna do some ship. Y'all don't
want the world ain't gonna want. He keeps saying that
what he What that mean?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Y'all? The folks gonna suck around and find.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Out what that means? Joe, what that means? Quick? What's
y'all think? Bro? Mean bullshit? Whatever he talking about?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
That right?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
He talking about showing the niggas some ship they ain't
never seen before. That means wipe your country out.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
When people say ship like that, you better you better
take heed. Those is heavy words.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
American bullies too, very very much. We've been bullies like
little Nigga in them country life.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
We've been bullies. We've been kicking it during other people
countries like yeah, we're here.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Like and y'all know what we got, like how we
do one can ask like they don't make none of
them bon then what's going on?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Like we gotten don't make them? Yeah, we said how
they had a rest of country going for that though.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
It ain't no different than when we was in school
the bully told you you can't sit at this one's table,
and your ass ain't sitting there because you ain't want
to get spanked. You got people that will fold, and
you got people that's gonna stand up.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
But you got some sneaky agg country like Kim Young
You them Nigga got damn they got that ship like
them Nigga readly he.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
And not he's another Trump fuck with him if you want, Yeah, like, yeah, okay,
bring that ass over here and see what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
And Nigga still testing the motherfucking m damn man, don't damn.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
I think it's I think I think it's I don't
want to talk it up, but I think it's about
that time. Yeah, because you got to think about it, bro,
I think the world ended aass time.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
The first world they had playing, they had the Jetsons.
You gotta think about the Jetson, Bro. Everything that was
on the Jetsons is here now.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Facts, we got automated cars, chats, heck.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah, watch the rocket exactly.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Everything that was on the Jetsons is here now. And
we couldn't even see that as a kid, Like that
ship was y'all still.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Rolling phone smacking the side of the TV.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yes, man, this ship different now, man, this ship is
all digital.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
And the thing that's trippy about it is how easily
we adapted. It was a smooth transition.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
When I think back, like I used to play Oregon
Trail on real floppy disc and I'm over here buying
a PlayStation five, Like it's nothing, not really understanding just
how much goes into that transition and that technology, Like
y'all took me from Star sixty nine to this iPhone.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
And I didn't even notice from payphone from a BP.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
The pay phone with that quarter call like oneck, I'm
ready to come pick me up from the skate. Yes, already,
because you better not let it ring do when your
mama got to pay.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah, real ship though, that's crazy. But I think even
though it's it's it's evolution, I think shit was better than.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I definitely agree.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Nobody don't know how to get nowhere without GPS, nigga
gpad to go right down the whole food that ship
across the street.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I sometimes I wish that we could go back to
how things were when we were in nineties.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
I'm a nineties kid. I was born in eighty five.
Take me back there. I liked it back there.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
And then when you ask the motherfucker brother, just go
to white GPS. I want to know what time I'm
gonna get done. People just don't want to think no more.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
No no, And you don't have to. You don't have
to think anymore. You can ai whatever you need to say,
whatever you need to do. You can DoorDash your groceries.
You don't got to leave your house if you don't
want to. You don't now today's society. You don't ever
have to talk to another human being face to face
if you don't want to. You can see your doctor

(52:14):
over the phone, get your groceries, pay your bills.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
You don't have to go outside, tell a doctor.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yeah, you don't have to interact with humans at all.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
What they setting us up for?

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Hmmm the robots that take over.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
The One thing about it, they already know what's nicks.
They knew this ship is going on now years ago.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
They're sending entertainers into space. They ain't doing nothing, no
reason you think they're mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
It's probably a little cute round trip, but they're going
up there. They're doing that to make us comfortable with it.
I think they're gonna put prisons in space, I really do.
And why the hell I love you dearly Katy Perry.
What the hell Katy Perry in space for?

Speaker 1 (53:03):
You know what I'm saying, It's probably just like an amusement.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Feel comfortable? Oh that said, My my favorite celebrity just
went to space. Oh I can move to space too,
Katy Perry? Did it?

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Them folks got on their submarine too. We ain't hurting
their na back from there. I don't think they went
to space, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I think they went up and came at now Man
and played some ship on the streen.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
On the side.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
They just shot up for they could.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I mean, that's not too far fasted neither. They feed
us bullshit every day.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah yeah, them folks ain't letting no nigga, no regular
nigga going on space because how you breathing? And ship
I don't know they could because shit in them card
damn show drive by theyself.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Yeah, I man, I was supposed to take a uber
the other day and they asked me, did I want
the way more car?

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I've been trying to get it. How you get it away?
You gotta be able to get the motherfucker in the city. Bruh.
I've been trying to get it from here. I don't
want to pull it up on my phone.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
It won't shut.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I gonna got no parts.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah, well, I'll be seeing around around, but.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
They're right there about the Capitol building. Yeah. I was
by the Capitol Building when I did it. Mm hmm.
I'm not doing it. Let me know how it works
out for you.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
I want to get on them.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Put me a text, so let me know because I'm
not doing that.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
That ship is that ship smarter than a nigga drive
ain't had not one accident.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
I'm terrified I want no parts because in my mind,
the car gonna be like hello, Dominique, I don't like
your attitude today and like me in that ship.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Ship.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
But think about it, nigga, these your car is smart
enough to do it.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
They just ain't leating, you know it is. My mother
came on like I almost hit hit the like slam
and break with her. Are you okay, mister Holst?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
They put this shit in make you uncomfortable, don't it.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah, So that means you can already hear me if
you want to hear me.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
I don't like that because I wrecked my truck and
motherfucker we're talking to me the whole time.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Like what the fuck going on?

Speaker 4 (55:12):
It did me that way in February, I wrecked a
rental and it was miss Johnson, this is such and
such and such and such. Please stay calm, authorities around them.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
We already on the way.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, I'm like, what hold on what It's.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
A cold world we're living in.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Don't move your seat belts, stay seated in the vehicle.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I'm like, yeah, nah, cold world live were living in.
We gotta keep living. I don't like this. So you
think aliens are already here?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah, they've been here. I feel like Aliens was here
when we when this shit started. I don't.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
I've always felt like that. I feel like they look
like us, they behave like us. You would never know
they don't. They're not green with big bug eyes lurking
in corners.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
What y'all think? I know this, she's getting off the
top of what y'all thinking? Area area? What is area
fifty one? What y'all think over them?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
It exists?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Now?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Know?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Is this what you think there?

Speaker 4 (56:11):
I'm big on that government secret conspiracy thing, and I
believe it's some ship in the area fifty one that
if it was to ever like, I feel like there's
some real bad diseases being held in the area fifty one.
I feel like shit like the Likeness Monster, all that kind.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Of weird shit.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think they're doing experiments down there. I
don't even think it's so much of like a museum
type just artifacts. I think they're doing experiments down there.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Trump willin't telling it, and they've been found big.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
He released that the JFK, the JFK tapes and documents paper.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, what they said was in it.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Everything they detailed down the JFK assassination. I just started
reading those. But the MLK tapes read them documents.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
They dropped. He dropped what they say.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
It's such a big conspiracy. I'm like, of course we
knew the government killed I'm okay, we knew the government
killed Malcolm X.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
We knew that. But the people they used. I ain't
finna spoiler for you. Go read it.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I don't really be reading, like I'll be listening.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
You use AI.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
All you gotta do is copy and paste and tell
a how to transcribe before you and you can listen
to it.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Fu Hey I he do that yep, Like make it
the audio.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
So you're saying, they saying that they just like Trump released,
like they shmacked him.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
One thing I respect about Trump he's a truth teller.
He may be a jackass, but he's gonna tell Like
he lies about his own ship, but when it comes
to that government cover up ship, he's gonna tell you
the truth. He's gonna snitch on everybody else, yes, but

(57:57):
he's gonna tell you about everybody else, and he put
it out there clean like here, y'all want to read
about it.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Here go this is laught for you. He about to
do a lot of shit about.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
To shake a lot of shit up. Some are good,
some are bad. I feel like when it comes to
fiscal stuff, financial stuff, he's a little bit more a
debt for that. Politics is not his thing.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Money politics. Yes, what's the definition of politics though secrets
and lies?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yes, give the people what they need, not what they want.
And it's like what you think people want or what
you think people need. I never really been big on
somebody else telling me what's good for me, So I
don't do well with politics, because how the hell can
you tell me what I need or what I want?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Who died and made you.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
The person that knows? Like, how can you tell me
what's good for the well being of a hundred million people?

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Y'all know me?

Speaker 3 (58:57):
They done killed motherfuckers and and made theyself that you
gotta think, man, I think civilization would be totally different,
man if we would, if we would have had enough
nuts to say, wee fin and running and ship niggas
was just.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Too scary back then or some what wrong with them?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
They put us against each other?

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Easy, correct, easy, that's it.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
I get sharing down the street, a nice house with
some green grass. I give Rachelle concrete y'all. She don't
like sharing and be the same. Yeah, we ain't no different.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
You're putting me against my neighbor.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
I watched it the other day. They say they first
they were there, they had the house niggas and the
field niggas.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Then they created a ship called a boulet like this,
the upper echelon niggas. So you automatically looking down on
the nigga niggas.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
You know what I'm saying. It's like niggas fucked up.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Now we hate Yeah, so now it's just niggas hate
niggas and white folks hate black people and just put
us through us through a loop.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
The sixties they put us against each other. The nineties
they put us against white folks. The nineties it was
the man. Everything was the man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Oh yeah, the nineties giving niggas excuse me these bombs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Everything was the man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
The white man did it. The white man. The reason
why you can't get a job. The white man, the
reason why you left your baby mama with these four kids,
and now you're in the streets. It's the white man.
My grandma generation, it was one against the other.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
You too dark. You gonna pass this brown paper bags
we don't like you darkies.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Oh nah, that shit was like that coming up in school.
Man two became on niggas like, you know, the light
skinned niggas head of the barge and all them niggas
in style. So goddamn Nino Brown hit with you know
what I'm saying, Michael Jordan. Niggas like that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Oh yeah, hold on some chocolate in their life after that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Shout out to Brandy. She the one that made us cool.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Oh yeah, she did for her.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Oh yeah, no.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
I used to pray to be light skin and short like,
and then that we're gonna I don't know, every day.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Be praying like, please Jesus, just make me light skinned.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
I want to wake up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Damn man, I think, I think, So, what's how do
we fix it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
We can't. There's no band aid.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
It's no quick fix to none of this ship. I
feel like, just like you said, we're on a decline.
We peaked already. We're on the back end of this ship.
Ain't no fixing it. It's gonna get worse. Only thing
that you can do is fix your immediate circle of influence,
the people you can reach out and touch. Ain't no
saving this world. You better, save your community. The best

(01:01:38):
you can save your family, instill them true values in
your family, and allow your family to go out and
be great, build a legacy. Other than that, it's over with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I agree, I don't know. It's it's co world we're
living in.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
But the thing about it is coming up before we
got here, before we start getting lit or getting grown.
Them went through the same ship and they probably thought
to worry about then who knows, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
They say what the tutsiro pop. The world may never know.
We're not gonna see it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
So all we can do is in fact our legacy.
All we can do is parents, is take the best
parts of our parents, give that to our kids.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I hope that they do the same with their kids.
Were on the back end.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
So what's next for Baby d Well Dominique? Which one
you're gonna be moving forward?

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I'm still Baby D. She ain't gonna nowhere. I'm always
gonna be Baby. She's a part of me, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
But I don't know what's next. And I love that.
I've always known what's next. I've always micromanaged, I've always
tried to put things into perspective in my life. And
it's like now I'm okay with saying my mental is
good money.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
All right, kids, good, let's see what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Happens everything that comes next, extra and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Dine in the line.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
I pray that every day I pray that God keep
me in my divine in the line place and allow
whatever I do to glorify Him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
So ship see what's next? Nah?

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
For sure? Man, letting them folds know what to tap in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
With you at pistols in a lip gloss.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Don't put an E on that end when you hit
the pistols and lip gloss. I don't do Facebook, So Instagram,
that's it. Pistols and lip gloss, pistols and limp. Yes,
I carry pistols and I got plenty lip gloss. You see,
I got big old lips.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
So how that gonna work though, with like being in
a relationship like nigga know you got a pistol?

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Yeah, baby, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
When I'm not around, when you're not around, I'm like,
But when you are around, I goodna put up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
I'm around cutting up what happened?

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Oh, now that's different. I'm gonna let you do your
big one as a man. But if I see a
situation where my man is yeah, nah, because now, baby
d and now I'm looking at you like you a client.
I'm gonna protect you at all calls. But the Amazon
women were the same way. They didn't play by their
men or their children. I'm gonna let you be a man.

(01:04:13):
I'm never gonna supersede you as a man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Get them.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
You know I've had one of them. You got to go, baby,
you soft?

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
You know what I'm gonna do with you. I'm gonna
tell you shut up. You might cry.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
What are you putting it down? Though?

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Get a chance to put it down. He ain't know
he was off yet, I shouldn't me. I'm you better
know it. Smell it on you. You can't hide it
from me. I'm like a drug dog.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
So you can't. So you can't, so you can't be
in a relationship with us.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
What I'm gonna do with you, I want a man
like my father, and nothing soft about Michael. He's soft
with his wife, he's soft with his daughters. He ain't
gonna play with you, and I need that. I'm like
Jill Scott. You gotta be able to tell me what
the dude.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Pistols and lip class y'all make sure y'all tap in
with baby d Man, I appreciate you, and I thank you, dope.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I told you when I first.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Mentioned and did now you stuck with me. No.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
In fact, I'm gonna tell you to get them if
you me and you in the car, get the baby,
say last.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I got too many feelings. Dollar like they just put
it up. I got it bad.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Y'all go like to strive and come and hit that
bell man for reminder to the Big Fat Network.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
I appreciate you, thank you for having me, no for
showing me playing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
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