The Real Truth About Loyalty, Betrayal & Street Redemption with Woody

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this. You are now in
June to perspectives with big bang bang. Let get straight to.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It, hey man, This ain't no typical interview. Man, it's
I got wise said with an atl native in the building. Man,
they get straight to it.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Bro. How you feeling, hey man? It's self made, self made. Yeah, man,
God made me, but you know self made overcame everything
I've been through, me and myself.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh God made you. But the streets helped.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Fuck the streets. Now, how you feeling, brother, I'm feeling
blish man. I appreciate you for having me on here. No,
I appreciate you pulling up? Could you keep on? Somebody
got damn how much you are? Exactly exactly I got
to pay for parking? Ain't wait? In life, I'm trying
to talk how you back? But she comes right around
the corner as I'm gonna go to talking shit life

(00:53):
like you're here for bank? I said, how you know
everybody come here for you? Ain't Yeah, most of the
people we do interview. Right here, I'm saying, like, where
your mental at right now?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
In your spirit? Engage the engage the spirit.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
My mental right now is just like you know, one
step at a time, my spirit with God, you know,
trusting the process, letting God lead away and just trusting
the follow so you know, it's a blessing. Man. I
woke up this morning. Somebody didn't wake up to day.
So I'm taking the full advantage of that opportunity to
have another chance at life.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
First question don't want to ask is like how you
how you keep from glitching out?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Reminding myself like when I did gleech ok where I
ended up at and looking over my shoulder. You feel
what I'm saying, raring about police locking me up. As
you see, I get pulled over every day. They feel good,
you know, knowing they ain't gonna walk away without me.
Oh you got your license? It straight everything? Yeah, the
first time having a license, first time, Like I got

(01:54):
over like ten million in my bank account. That's how
crazy it is.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
What's What's what you think?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Thenumber one thing is that people see, like the people
that love you to see when they see you.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Now say that one more time.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Like what you thinking the number one thing or what
people tell you that's around you, like you know, like
like your grandma and your aunties and your friend.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
That really really loved you. What it is that they
most proud of you, most proud.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Of you, my growth, the way I'm handling any things,
and how I'm going about it, and you know, the
love is I an'tbelievable. It's crazy. Like it's crazy, bro,
I ain't gonna lie. At this point, I thought I
have to do something to somebody, and then everybody, like
I told, y'all, you fee what I'm saying. But it's
it's so much love that you know, the enemy can't
even get close to me.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Real shit, What makes you feel what made you feel
like you have to do something? Somebody just thinking like what?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Because I was a young nigga one day, I mean
one at one point and I saw somebody that had
a certain status and I wanted to be my name up.
So I was thinking about doing something to that person
to get my name up there. So instally, I think,
back in my shoes, you feel what I'm saying, So like, shit,
I know somebody think they're gonna get his name out

(03:04):
of me. It ain't gonna be that sweet. Yeah, No,
I did what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
You're saying you by being on the internet or being
just period, it just you felt like damn, I could
be the target that I once thought was like I
once looked at a nigga like me as a target.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Basically. Yeah. So it's like street niggas mindset right, they're
jealous and emis my nigga. So it's like when but
people say like this in L. E. Chopper in Young Boy,
everybody said, jump, ain't mess with nobody. The boy, the
boy doing his thing, standing his right name, and this nigga, Yeah,
I love it, I love it. I can feel him
every time he dropping song. But in L. E. Chopper,

(03:38):
instead of him doing his own thing, he said, you
know what, I'm ana tax this man. I'm gonna mess
with him. That's how niggas, that's how poor niggas in
the street think, instead of leting me to continue to
move my life because I ain't messed with nobody. I
ain't out here trying to portray a street image or
nothing like THATM just and it's like knowing that it's
always some man cut emis and jealous of me.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So how you get away from you know, like because
because me I'm doing the same shit, just transition trying
to be a different person too where I am different.
But the thing about it is you can't change the
mind of motherfuckers who already knows you for who they
know you are. So how do you how do you
keep from fucking one of them up?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Avoid being around them? So I couldntrol who around me
in the environment I'm around, So like right here, I'm
here with you. Every person that week me work a job,
you see what I'm saying, an honest job, and they
having an honest living. This as long as I ever
been free, I put myself around those type of people
and they keep me away from them. Street mentality. Yeah,

(04:41):
but it's in you though, right So that's what tells
me right there? And dere what you ain't pretending this
nigga pretending co when you put their belt to theaggether
what we're gonna do? Police give them. I don't care
if I would have did something here, You're gonna call
the police on me? Nigga? Try to justify shit? Why?
And overall? You know what I mean? You ain't really
like that, And I ain't trying to talk down on

(05:02):
nobody cause I'm not like that. I've been pretending and
living a fake life, trying to be crazy and trying
to be whatever people want me to be, And I
just realized, man, this she ain't bring me happiness.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Where they feel like to be just labeled as a snitch,
like how that feel? Inside the truth? You never spoke
on that, like how that feel?

Speaker 1 (05:21):
This only if a person feel like I'm a snitch
and they want to lay me a snitch. I look
at them, and I look at you know who they are?
Who is you to try to label me? What you
got going on? To try to you feel what I'm saying, nigga,
your life, what it need to be for you to
be focusing on me? Stay in the child play? Little boy?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Hey, let me ask you so because I was just
thinking the morning when I knew you was coming. I
was just trying to think of some questions. I wrote
some shit down, but I ain't fucked that. I was
just gonna ask you some regular shit. Let me ask you,
you know, d day, young niggas, Like I said, all y'all,
young niggs feel like y'all can for nehing folk like
talk your way out of some shit. Do you feel
like niggas just don't want to see that you really
did from this?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
So let's let's break it down. You know what I
ain't gonna kick him because I love him too much.
You fee what I'm saying. I will use rib scenarios
to point out my my make my point, but I
just say this, my nigga, I got sons. I talked
about this shit way back in twenty nineteen before anybody

(06:23):
ever got locked up. Nobody knew what I knew. You
feel me? Somebody, what about this whole situation. I talked
about the trial before he even happened, before anybody got
locked up. One thing about when you out here doing
stuff you know twelve, it'll come get you. Dean. Niggas
in the street ain't thinking like I am. De niggas
ain't cut from the cloth. I came from everybody thinking
that you go do stuff to get caught. You feel me?

(06:45):
So you gotta go back to the beginning of the problem.
Where did it start? It started when niggas start rapping
You feel me? They said. You started start saying on
the interview, you started all this shit, and he said,
I do medicine too, And I heard you out your
mouth said he ain't as crazy as he said. Clearly,
what you're gonna go out for? What you're gonna go
out for? If you look at thug and you look

(07:07):
at me like real top Thug was successful as he
was because his talented. But now that he been disposed,
his truth held been disposed. Look at my boy, that
ship hurt me. Looking at him? What you mean his
smile ain't the same, his attitude ain't the same. Every
time you see him on footage, he looked, he looked
like in a dark place. Look at it. Go look
at them videos of him. You see what I'm saying. Now,

(07:28):
Look you mean, my nigga, do it look like I'm pretending.
Do it look like I'm living in the dark place?
Or he looks like I'm living in the light? Whoa
you want a Swiss seat?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Want?

Speaker 1 (07:40):
In my respect, you is way up here in my
ear because I sat there and I watch him. You
know what I'm saying watching You know a lot of
people don't understand that about me. Like I've been in
survival mode since my mama died. Yeah, so I'm gonna
do what I gotta do survive. I didn't commit crimes,
and I'm not telling people to go commit crimes. I

(08:01):
didn't commit grinds because I wanted to. I committed crime
because I didn't know better, and I try to, you know,
make people accept me. So I thought this is the
way that I can make people asselt me. But when
I started doing times and people start turning their back
on me and started leaving me in there and started,
you know, while I'm sitting in jail, people showing up
my family houses. I'm in jail. These niggas who won't
call it my friends, ain't protecting my family. So when

(08:23):
niggas talk about snitching and they talk about all that, niggas,
fuck y your niggas. I'm a mechanic vir nigga, pull
up and get your issue. That's how serious I am
about you. Say you changed. Let me let me tell
you something, my nigga. Now keep on, yeah, card, listen,
let me tell you something. People got to understand the
seriousness and how far unwilling they go about my people.
This is a situation. I got nothing to do it,

(08:44):
but I'm taking I'm carrying to blame. When it first happened,
you heard about it. Whose name was being called? Yeah?
Who had to go through all these violence and war
every time niggas shot at me and I shot back,
Polly locked me up, and them niggas continue to shoot
up my family house. When you when you having warre nigga,
let me tell you something. When they shot me while
I had my baby, my baby and my girl with
me at the time, gloves off, nigga. Anybody can die, nigga,

(09:08):
because at the end of the day, while I'm trying
to defend minds about something, I got nothing to do
with the police locking me up, my nigga.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
So you feel like basically what I just gather from there,
you feel like you went out the front line on
some shit that you ain't had to be front line
for and niggas left you for dead.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
That's how you feel. Let me tell you, I ain't
never need a nigga defend me. But right is right,
my nigga. If y'all nigga know what the truth about,
what about the situation, I ain't even gotta tell y'all
niggas what to do. Y'all should already been on it.
But due to the fact puts that nigga gonna give
a fuck, my nigga, because I see it and I
be quiet. I hold it seeing and shit hurt. Get
it up, nigga, I see it and be quiet and

(09:44):
let the world criticize me and say what they want
to say about me. But the whole time, I don't
defending the niggas I call friend while these niggas hide
and broke up on the rocks. Now, nigga, y'all bad
enough to do this shit. Niggas stand on it, but
instead who got to stand on it? Me? When heid
was show up my family house, graduate by who chill
out there? Lo? They got a fucking dog change on
my knicks? So I can't go back out there. But
guess where I broke their motherfucker off. And I went

(10:06):
back out there, and I stood up for me and
my family and made them nigga stop. I wouldn't let
no nigga polyp pressing me my nigga. I didn't want to.
I didn't want to go back and forth with these
niggas because I'm like, bro, I got respect for this man.
But when I see the nigga ain't gonna stop. Fuck
that shit. You feel what I'm saying, anybody can get it,
and I'm standing on it.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
So where it's at right now, though, well with it.
I'm saying, just the energy of all that shit, it's
behind me. This is my last time getting it off
my chair. And the best place to get off my
chair is right here with you.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I appreciate it. I appreciate you. I see how you
get each and everybody on here, and people gotta understand,
and people, you know, everybody want to know what's going on.
You know what I'm saying. And you know I see
here and watch people sit right here knowing how I
feel about this situation, and get on here and lie.
Don't lie, my nigga, because you don't want me to
put the truth out there.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say that before we even
get too deep in. I don't take you as a liar.
That's me walt sing that like even watching you like
you know how, nigga, you could tell if they blinking
or just just buy it.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I have seen all types of niggas. I'm just being real, nigga.
We seen him here. He'll took a pert I always
acted like that.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
No, he always moving like that. No, keep it real now,
he always like that.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Come on, what do you lie about the medicine? First
of all, I never took medicine. But you just said
you slip retarded before we started, so you might need
to tell something. Just because I'm retarded, don't mean I
gotta take medicine. Yeah, because I'm retarded to though exactly
do you take message? Nah? Exactly, I'm high of life,
real talk. Ask the nigga. Bro. When I just be mad,
I wake up up my sleep and go outside play

(11:39):
on playground. You feel what I'm saying. It's just when
I love for people to be so real bro in
his next level. But when when people trying to be
show their same little back, then my nigga, they ain't
doing it. And then once you try to close them
those and let they pass me the pass and you
got niggas come on this thing. You know, everybody said,
I can't take what is serious? He takes medicine? No,
take me serious. I'm human. I have them the same

(12:00):
finish y'all health. But it ain't that wrong with nigga
taking medicine. Though, yes it is what that's why they
take medicine something.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
But what I'm saying, you taking medicine to be okay.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
They mean you fucked up if you gotta take message.
But when you're taking the medicine, you're okay like Guca
okay now, because if you don't take their Mesaine what
he's gonna go do.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, but a lot of us is undiagnosed.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Though a lot of us got some ship that we
probably I probably if we if any of us in
that room went down there and sat with them folks
and told them folk, what the fuck we'll be thinking about,
We'll all be taking.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Medicine where you gotta be crazy living in today's society.
That's what I'm trying to tell you. So it really
ain't fucked out to be taking the nigga needs to
be taking some This is my medicine right here.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Me too, I ain't even lying, bro, me sitting out
having a conversation with niggas and just smoking a little
blunt or too.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
I ain't eve gotta smoke a blunt. That shit helped me,
I jg. Like I ain't never did George, I ain't
pop pills, ain't none asking them niggas natural, you know.
I mean, like I said, Bro, from with you every
step of the way. See people not understanding where niggas went,
won't gonna get what causes all of this. You feel
what I'm saying. And like I said, I loved even

(13:05):
to this to this day. I never hurt him. I
want to see him hurt. You know what I mean.
I just don't want. I just don't like when niggas
get on you and lie and pretend. You know what
I'm saying, Let this shit be, bro, Let's just close
their chap already. He just said all thing he said,
we got damn what is started everything? And I did it?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
You you putting gas on the fire?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Now you put gas on the fire. Once they put
their hands on me, my nigga, I'll bet so. Yeah,
I had a bit night. Somebody gotta pay. But they
didn't leave into the situation that people trying to say,
why if bank hit me, I'm not going after her.
I'm coming at the bank. You feel me. So at

(13:47):
the end of the day, my nigga, you know the truth.
You should never answer that question. You should have I
don't recall. You should have said woof they do. Don't
sit there and say wood because you got to understand
people believe. Yeah, people don't believe in it.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
It was easy to believe though.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Hold on, let me let me just ask you this
just in hindsight, just looking back, how wild y'all niggas
was online and clubs and ship Would you believe that
about you? That what it probably did start because how
they said something about nuts, shit got stolen and some
kind of way you gave it back or whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
So man, you come from the street, watch steal something
to give back. Just don't make sense. Don't write my nigga.
Never come on man, you know that. Yeah, you got
a whole lot of sense. Yeah, can't about to come
up here and play on you, my nigga.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
You said, so what happened with that situation with the
nut chain?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Somebody, somebody did have his change. They broke in his car.
You feel me? And when I said, I'm like what,
so I hit baby Jade like, hey man, hitting it up.
Tell him I got his stuff. She knew it, so
she hit him up, told him he put up in
the neighborhood. Me and him, chopped couple people with him.
Gave me a champ, We talked. You know what I'm saying.

(14:55):
It wouldn't no gangster shit involved it all. You know
what I'm saying. Anytime I feel like I had a
status in the street, if I feel like here threat
to minutes, I ain't even let you leave my neighborhood period,
but there wasn't never the case. The respect was mutual.
So you know, I gave him that back, and you
know he was like, damn, who you got it from?
You know, come on, we ain't doing all that bit.

(15:15):
So he like, shit, you know what, I respect them,
my nigga. And that was it that she was dead.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
But Bud was saying, like his niggas didn't want to
let that go after that though, So I ain't do.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Nothing to me right there in and there he can
had his niggas with him.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
But you know how shit go after when fucked that
fucking up to my man? Shit, this nigga gonna tried you.

Speaker 1 (15:33):

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I'm just keeping it real like you, Just like you
just said earlier, niggas in the street just envious.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
So you never know, when did you hear about this
story of me having enough juror on the podcast? Exactly
my niggas, So if there was the word in the street,
why is he just not coming out? Nobody didn't know
nothing about this jurors, nobody didn't know nothing about what
happened to the trial. You just said to yourself, you
never heard nothing about that till in the trial, right,
So why did niggas swing on you that cruise? So

(16:03):
some shit happened at the gambling house, okay, and somebody
told me, hey, man, you know, play the card right here.
I said, damn you smart, I play their card. But
as I'm playing the card that you tell me to play,
the hand that you tell me to play, you were
a nigg on me. So I ran it too. Somebody,
a certain person that been stay up the up beach

(16:25):
pretend to be gagsting and they laying up in the
hopital of the bed. I ran it to him, and
I took your advice because you told me play the hand,
chop it up with a nigga whatever whatever. And then
motherfucker say, man, fuck that. You don't know who got
who down bad. You just put me in across fire.
Tell a nigga. I tell nigga straight up. Ay, Look,
whatever problem, it ain't got nothing to do with me
between y'all. So this but me and you hanking. So

(16:47):
when the niggas sit me there a hundred deep, and
I ain't feel letting nobody to fuck with you when
you with me, nigga, what's up with sy'ally. Shit, what's him?
Oh they want to get violent. Oh, y'all ain't gonna
doing nothing. Nah nah, y'all did shit when I ain't here.
But while don't hear I'm defending. I'm riding that what happened.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
So why you ain't go through it that we're gonna
keep jumping back and forth because this is comeu hered.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I ain't got a rope down. Look why you why
ain't like them?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Four gave you immunity, right, yeah, so that means you
can't be charged for none like they say you.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Can't be charged for the communities. That's different. What's that?
That means that we're giving you immunity. We don't care
that you don't want it. I didn't want ammunity. I
didn't want my family to hear the ship that I
allegedly did in the streets. Okay, I didn't, So I
threatened the prosecutors, not in a bad way any defense. Hey,
y'all leave me out this trial, because what they're gonna

(17:41):
do is get up here and say, oh what this this, this, this, this,
this is my nephew Nils is trying to be in
the street. I don't want them to hear about this ship,
I ain't. I ain't a fan of this violence. And
when they start saying, oh, he did all this stuff
right here the internet, they like stupid ship, my nigga.
I don't want to be praised for being stupid by
hurting people.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
You feel me, when's your shift come? Like, when's your
mind shift?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
My mind shift? When I was in state prison right
before they I was just released before the trial. I
had thirty days to go home. Some game members came
to me like, hey, bro, be careful the other games
they trying to get you. Hi, got a knife. They
gave me a knife. You know me hard head, Like,
I get defend my show. I got thirty days to
go home. They go get the other dude. Somebody say, hey,

(18:27):
y'all get this nigga. And the old head comes to
me and say, hey, they playing you bro. They trying
to crash you out, and they trying to crash him out.
So the nigga they tried to get stabbed me. He
had snitch on his jacket, but they gonna they gonna
manipulate him to stab me so they could protect him.
He got ten years during prison. So when the old
head explaining to me, I'm like cool. Instead of me
going to the whole, I just falling back. I'm hard

(18:49):
head with a point of people. I go on to yard.
What's up? I got my knife on me. They gave
me a short knife. You gave him a loan one.
And when I see a nigga and buy down, no
nigga do it. Me and your nigga had we went edit,
but he had help. He had another nigga, So I
had another nigga come. He whip out. I ain't sure mine.
I wanted to add. I ain't had nobody had to

(19:10):
cuff in my hand. And when he pulled out, what's up?
What's up? So I like I'm scoring up with him?
And when he went back, I went straight into his
face and he stood back and came down, stepped me
in the arm right here, and then went through. When
he stabbed me, that's when the reality hit me. You
stupid ass nigga, you got a lot to lose. I
crabbed my arm, wrapped myself up, ramped back inside the

(19:32):
park because I really say, he wasn't trying to do nothing.
So when I when I missed him, he stayed at
my ramp back inside the police seemed like, please, don't
say nothing, because I'm gonna lose my parole date. Now
I got to standing here with these niggas that ain't
gottenhing to lose. She looked at me, She's like, oh,
I went there, wrapped myself up, past my ship, and
she still didn't go to the whole. Old head bad
me Like please, man, he from Augusty like, please go

(19:53):
to the hole. Man like, bro, you somebody brother youse.
Niggas ain't nobody go. So I'm like, man, if I
go to the hold, nigna think I'm scared that nigga,
even being scared about being smart. You something. I don't
make a name off of you, damn. So after I
was up conversation, ain't gonna lie. It took a long time,
and I'm like, okay, cool. I went ahead, packed my
stuff up, went to the whole. But why you go
to the whole for? Because I'm going home. I started

(20:17):
dying of killing. Yeah, yep. So I went to the whole.
And then that's when I was laying in my bed,
I started talking to God. And you know, at first
you're like, man, you know you ain't doing that. You
just boyed. So the more I started just talking to God.
I start to feel better, getting clarity too. Yeah, I'm
about my body. And then this ain't no. Five days
went by. I got three weeks to go home, and

(20:39):
that's I just found myself talking to God more and more.
You feel I'm saying. Then the rico came. I'm like,
oh wow, you feel what I'm saying. And that's when
I got on my knees and pray. Because one thing
about me, I got a lot of stuff documented. I
got a documented talking about this tribe before it even happened.
You see what I was going to man, Bra It's crazy, Bro,
My life is so crazy. Nigga won't even believe it. Nigga,
I fought to be in that position that I was in.

(21:01):
What you mean? You know what I mean? I can't
put that on him.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
There you create in the position that, yeah, I asked
you because you love it, but hey, because I still
got a train of thought of so oh, G was
telling you that dude gotta do ten years. So they
telling him they gonna say he's straight if he handling
you like, we're gonna take care of you.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Bro. You're good.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
You got there, just handler wood. And then all that
shit over.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
But they line in him too though, Oh fuck him too. Yeah, yeah,
they're gonna crash both of us out on each other.
So if I stab him, I'm going to hire a
prison where they can get me at because I'm at
a bullshit camp. Oh you weren't in right street, you was.
I was in state prison. Oh okay, okay, okay. So
when I get there, off the rip, what's the best
place to start game banking that what's the best place

(21:49):
started gaming? In prison? So when I walked through the door,
nigga say you you blood? I said, no, it ain't nothing.
You feel me. I could even say yeah, because this
is a account where they pretended I see these niggas.
So I ain't for the hot by now behind nothing.
Now I ain't blood because you know, when I became
a camemember, I thought you had some type of scrutch.

(22:10):
I thought it had unity. When cern stuff started happening,
people stud I stuck. Like when twenty fifteen blood stuft
switching up. You know what I'm saying. When I started
niggas switching up, I'm like, oh, I'm in the wrong field.
This just mean switching up like so like let's say
I was a part of this set. Niggas in this set, like, damn,

(22:32):
we can't rock with you because you did that to
you know what I mean? But this ain't this ain't
your whip, I said, But y'all ain't walk with me
cause y'all pussy straight up real shit. I don't need
y'all to rock with me though I ain't. Could you said,
you see me in the clothes beat booting them? So
but when I was throwing up signs, what was I
throwing up? I stand on what I stand on. I
stood up with what I thought I was a part of.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Okay, and and boole something different, right, oh okay.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
So niggas like man, oh damn bro Now, y'all nigga
scared y'all, y'all, I mean, y'all, y'all see what going on.
Y'all don't want no parts of it. But I ain't
got nothing to do with it. I ain't finna tell it.
Nobody think what y'all want to think. Feel y'all want
to feel.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
So what's the consequences of saying like ain't nothing when
you when you was in the game.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
There wasn't no consequences. The best place I could have
got out of it was in prison while the woods
at right. So I dropped my flag when I was down.
Now niggas like, uh shit, he ain't blood. Oh boy,
you they saying you did this to a blood So bro,
we gotta eat you. But we ain't gonna eat you, brother,
cause you know, I mean a lot of East Coat
hummers they like him. Man, hey man, y'all hair shot
it back. They like, but you ain't blood, and they

(23:33):
say you did this, So get on the door. I'm like,
get on the door. Sit. I'm trying. I'm trying to
buy time to get a knife because you know, I mean,
if I get on the door this, she's gonna find
me here where I go. So when I see nigga
now they clean he why he'll give me a knife?
He ain't give me a knife. Fuck you. So at
the end of the day, I let what I do.
I stayed in there and let them beat me up.
They ain't really know me, nick can'not know where punch

(23:56):
me inside. You know, I bothered. I'm know I to
take a hair whip, but I take an airwhep before
I let you just treat me like a bitch. So
I took an air whip and then they caught me
out from a miracle. I went up there, hid in
my eye, came right back. You know. When I came
back and like, damn you got respect, shot shouted normally nigga,
go tell. And I came in and went to sleep
with them niggas. And then there was people on the

(24:16):
outside like, man, look get off from in there going
around somebody that you know you they can have your back.
And then you know, I changed units, you know what
I mean due to the fact because a lot of
people here saying, but that's that's a bigger fish say that. No,
you got family, bro, they're staying Atlanta. Bro. I already
got your name in called out there and got your background.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Let me ask you something. You said something at my train.
Thought you was saying, who kept decided on the y
sair case? A lot of people did who. Yeah, you
got both of the quads? Yeah shanty Yet.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I said, yeah, correct, No. Then they made thug rack
casey hat a lot of his interview. Yet said I
did it right, but I was in charge. Yet with charge,
so what they tell you it's too much for nessing
going on.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I'm giving you the fact.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I'll give you the fact if you had went in
that interrogation, talked to the police and proven facts that
he lied and you caught him a wreck. But you
said people he's selling, you know, Wayne take away in
them drugs and people commit crimes every day if ya
conrect from lining the interrogation, what they make you?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh so you're saying basically, you ain't take it like
he told them you because you know you ain't did
now right?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
But niche is the one you're telling the truth on this.
Somebody my nigga, right, you told you about anything? Sure?
We y'all free? Hell yeah, I told truth about everything
I told you. Yeah we free? My name right to say, nigga.
A lot of the mom a lot of their kids

(25:58):
can't understand telling you the truth said you're free on.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
So, so how do you feel?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
How you felt like really going in there every day,
like getting ready to go.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
In the mofu? Man? I was the zigmy man. It
seemed like the women were just pushing me and I
was telling them like I can't eat, I can't feel nothing,
Like they didn't care why you thought you was in
that state of mind? No, because it's like bro, I
don't care about this defense. I don't care about the State.

(26:29):
I just care about you know. I mean, I've been
through enough, my nigga, and these people intentionally do it
like the state they linked out these interrogation for you
because I was uncooperated the whole time. Why ever, I
think I'm cooperating, I'm not. That's why I keep going
to prison and keep going to jail.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Oh you talking about even even even with the interrogation
videos and all that shit, you're saying, you still didn't
really get them for shit.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
That's why you were going to jail basically.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
So well, a lot of people missed because they ain't
got nobody breaking down to them each entire each time
they interrogated me, I told them a different story every
time they questioned me. So I didn't even understand why
the police are you were trying to use that. It
ain't like I told you the same story every time
you questioned me. You see, I told him bank shot him,
you know what I mean, banking? He cool? Did it
turn around? Said huh cool? Did it turn around? Said emmy?

(27:14):
So it's like y'all ain't convinced by this story. Y'all
ain't convinced by the funk. How could I convince y'all? Right, Yeah,
that fucked up, you know what?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I so you said basically, all right, let's break it down.
What Let's break down telling snitching ran informed. Let's break
down all of them. Let's start with schnitching.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Snitching is the whole old rally. You snitch, just let's
just put it out there. Your snitch when you go
in to terrogation room on the top, that's the best
way to kill it. That's when you're a snitch. Yeah.
The moment you walk in the terrogation room and signed lawyer. Yeah,
the moment you talk without your lawyer, your snitch. I
don't give a fuck what you tell him. That's the
only way you stop it. That's the only way you

(27:59):
stop it. Yeah, that's only way where it ain't questionable. Yeah,
I agree with that. Everything you turn around, somebody gonna
get e SPoD for snitching.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
But but, but, but a young nigga told me this
the other day. Right, I was like, man, because the
niggas listen to the Thud interview. When I said, why
y'all your nigga feel like y'all can finish the police.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Do you feel like today? Do you feel like I snitched?
Just be honest with you, just be real honest. Do
you feel like I snitched? Now? You see how everything
played out, you see everything in life.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
I feel like you finished. But that is telling.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
You went in that terroorgation room and talk to them
folks to say anything besides well, my lawdy y you're
telling so okay, that is how I feel about it.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
But overall, forget how you feel about it. Let's speak
on the fat.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
But overall, I feel like you did what was writing.
And then that's just how I feel. And I told
everybody that I feel like whatever I feel like you
say them boy, life, I do feel like that. So
I can't say when you when it was your time
to really tell, you didn't tell. But in them terrogation room,
you were talking too much.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
So say, let me ask you this question. Was you
in any of them because they were used to mean
any of them crimes? No, sir, So how you know
if I were telling?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
No, I'm just saying what I saw.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I'm just keepping the real like what I saw a
Nigga interrogation room talking them folks to me, I cut
it off, brother, because I don't give fuck what you're
about to say. You're talking too much. That's just how
I look at it with it, and I could be
that that wrong. But like I said, I'm going to
make the point of your niggas that told me like, oh,
so you gotta think when y'all niggas all that cold shit,
them nigga won't try and for that, them nigga gonna
do fitting in a hundred year, these niggas actually getting

(29:32):
out line.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's a difference.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
I don't get.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
I don't understand niggas telling back then. For sure they was.
See the difference between now and back then was exactly
you ain't had the internet back then. That's why a
lot of these niggas trying to step up under the
end the radar because they get exposed. Yeah, yeah, I
agree with. I know a lot of niggas not mean
they don't sat down and talk because niggas don't say
that you feel what I'm saying. So my whole thing

(29:58):
is now that you got a in and guess what
niggas saying. Shit, I'm stay out to wake cause I
ain't trying to be expoised. Bro. Let me tell you something, bro,
We're human. Were human. Ain't nobody elver walked this earth
did what I did, and ain't nobody never going to
do it. I didn't owe nobody nothing, ain't nobody put
no gun to my head and nothing. Let me tell
you something, my nigga went when I was out here thugging,

(30:19):
then ride with you and having your back. I wasn't
out here telling people or bragging about it. I didn't
put that in songs. I didn't do any of that.
And let me tell you this, bro, whatever I went
through and whatever I did, I didn't do it to
get caught or to go to spend the rest of
my life in jail. That's where people fail to realize.
Y'all keep my saving them niggas. Let's start with myself. Yeah,

(30:40):
I ain't spending the rest of my life in jail.
That's why I take advantage of every opportunity and every
day moving forward. I commend you for that though. Everything
you're doing.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Want the ship with the kids, like I could tell
that shit jingle, like I said, brouh. Somebody sent me
a picture you and said you got shot, bro. I
instantly prayed for you, doc, because they ain't no, that's
on gud but you end.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Up following off a bite. I was like, I pray
for you in the city.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
College like if they done shot, they boy, they finis
the city finna be fucked up.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Niggas asked me to go to jail whatever, cause it.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Was they we ain't gonna jail because if I live.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
And I'm just saying, but you you was out. You
see that video, Yeah, I seen it looked like boy
it was over with. So I just like, man, please
go don't let nobody be gonna kill the boy. Shot
this boy whatever it is. Man, let him get up
off of their ground. Two three two three thirty minute later,
it was like, nah, he fell off a bike. You
know what I'm saying. So I was like, damn, that's god.
You get what I'm saying because I don't want to

(31:30):
see now. Want nobody get shot because this shit gonna
turn the city upside down. That's just what it is, right,
That's just what it is. Nigga ain't gona somebody going
to jail. He gonna all crank back up. I feel
like me personally, and I want to interview Finnish. That's
who I want to interview. That's like, that's my dream.
Interview is fanning with us. I just want to interview her,
but I feel like the state, I ain't gonna say hurt,

(31:51):
but the state want to see something because niggas is out.
You get what I'm saying, Like, everybody put all these
nigga back out there, Let's see what happened.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
That's just how I feel.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
I'm I'm gonna say this. I'll watch Finnish. You feel
what I'm saying. This is a swarm black woman for sure,
and a lot of people want to take away from
her because it's not I mean, how she hunted the situation. Job.
She did a job, and if we ain't get her
job to do, she might have to rear.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Fact, so nigga won't be mad if it was a
white man or white lady. Nig wadn't even be mad
like they wuldn't even be mad at the like bruh.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Her job is to lock your ass up. Your job
is not to get caught. That's just what it is,
Like who the fuck? Like what the fuck? But see
a lot of people don't know that. So a lot
of people feel like okay, because they go break the law,
they ain't got rid bou like, no, you gotta go
to jail. You gotta pay for that. So that's that's
my view of life. Now, that's why I make my
nixt decision based off like, Okay, cool, if I'm broke,

(32:42):
I'm not gonna go row out nobody to take what
nobody I go work for. I'm gonna go cutin grads
and you know, chop the tree, dow. I'll wake up
some leaves. I ain't got read about the law. So
that's why I try to, you know, talk to these kids.
When the police they still terrorize me. They see me
out there with the kids, they go check, jumping out
on the kids, searching them, try to find something on
them to say that I'm influence, that I'm giving them that.
No I'm not. I'm on it. I'm putting built to

(33:03):
they ad. Yeah, I'm punishing kids people, kids that ain't
mind's either, and their family, like their parents are telling me,
do it. How you think you? How you think you?
How you think you?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Continue to have the respect from the kids to even
listen to you with all the ship going on.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
The internet, cause they relate nobody, not one person say
I'm a snitch to my face. I just left made
high school last for Friday, and I had the trouble
youth in them. And there was a couple of outsos
that used to work in right Street don't work there
no more. They who invited me. They be like, man,
let me, I'm gonna invite somebody I used to deal
with in the jail. And I got a friend of
the kids and I found one. They had their mindset

(33:39):
like me, and I locked in on him and I
talked to him, and he thought he had to so
figured out. And what I did, I telled him to
his emotion and I let go outside. They hit because
I told him I beat him up. Yeah, I said,
I win because I got you mad, and you're gonna
make the wrong choice. I said. Your first mistake is
you walked past me and let me stand behind you.
You ain't got enough uh what you call it? You

(34:02):
ain't better test, my nigga, because the moment you let
me get behind you, you lost ain't no rules in the streets.
The moment you believe the rules in the street, you
lose facts. Every time I turn around. Somebody being disposed
for going into the interrogation room and talking to the law.
That's a part of the street. Like my nigga, they
part of the game. I'm not promoting, I'm not condoning.

(34:23):
I tell everybody, don't put yourself in a situation where
they could tell on you, or you have to tell
on somebody. And the best way you do that is
by limit who you associate yourself with.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Oh look, let me break that down.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
You said some niggas ain't going in, Yes they are.
Let me tell you some of my nigga. I'm gonna
tell you how you know. I went to jail because
the police said in the video, it looks like it's
a gun on my help. Everybody's sitting and they product
on the internet. I went everybody they po they product

(34:58):
on the internet. I went to the because our son said,
if somebody tried them, I'm gonna pull up the pop
of their neck. So if the fas comes, got me
for that lyric. You think they're not watching all these
niggas on the internet selling all these stuff and fleshing
all this stuff. You think they're not catching these niggas
pulling them over. Why ain't about liquing let them go?

(35:21):
Why you think the niggas surviving on the street. So long, bro.
So if nigga want to say I'm working for the law,
why the hell they keep putting me in jail. I
can't get the information if I'm in jail. It's the
niggas that ain't going to jail. It's giving them the information,
keeping them updated on what's going on in the street.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But would you look at it if it was another nigga,
If a nigga interrogation, when what you look at it
like he did some bullshit?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
They just yes or no. To be honest with you,
it ain't my situation for me to be putting my
time into it. Nah. I agree with that. So that's
where I go at because I'm never gonna associate with
you or.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
What I'm talking about it because I'm talking to you saying
if I'm talking to a nigga, that's what I'm talking about.
Other than that, that ain't my business, right because like
I always say, but you call a nigg out of
their name, but you gotta be ready to kill him
no matter if you're true or not.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
That's the truth. The truth here bank everybody associated with
the snitch if they didn't snitch for the friends, for sure.
So when I be looking at the nigga like, oh,
I can name you name a rapper. I named somebody
who's staying with them every day. They told, let's let's
be real. So they're trying to make it seem like okay,
because you told or you made it, you did what

(36:23):
you did. Now I'm just gonna sat you say, if
you name a you could name. You got somebody hanging
around every day post picture was mine. So they wanted
to select and choose, but they stay well controlling.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Why you think they selecting che cause.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
These nigga really bitches, you know what I mean. I
hope I hope they feel offended when they hear that
and I say it because it's like y'all got all
this influence, use it for a better purpose.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I just told a couple of nigga that on the phone.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, man, like my on my on my lifelight, Bro.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Niggas got a goddamn feet.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Niggatta really because the streets is over the part of
the street said we know that.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I know, and I come from the streets from that.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's nice being over it. Not really.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yes, they have a bank, not really, because nig was
still money to get it ain't even no money to get.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Now, you don't want the money they want Clout. Everybody
doing shit for clout. You see, you see how long
we fora did the interview months. You ain't want to pay,
and I ain't want to see it for free, you
know what I'm saying. So it's like it's like I
ain't never play aga for interview though, And guess where
my nigga keep going. Yeah, ain't hang on you. But

(37:30):
see what happened is but we can get some money
together for sure. But see I had to learn the
bigger message. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm respecting
you because you get what I'm saying. This nigga make
money off our story. But I'm watching how everybody come
up here, you know, trying to put their story out there.
You know whatever I say, you know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna go Auhead and talk with Bank because get what,
I got real respect for Bank. I just watched your interview.
Now I got respect for you too, Bro.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Like I said, Bro, in the beginning, looking at that ship,
that Terrorgation.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Ship, I did not respect them. But on the man
that I see today, Bro, I see you fucking them kids. Well,
a policitive. I see you helping the kids. I see
you got damn a family.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Man.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
I see and I see no lives in you. I'm
just being real. I see no.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Lives when I see you, bro.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
So for me to sit across from you, and I
told you that on the phone because you're like, man y'all,
don't fuck with me.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Man y'all, I like what.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
You can't name a time that I said it out
my mouth that you nothing, Not one time that I
say it out my mouth anything neggative towards anybody.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Now, it don't be that. It be more us a
city shit. So it's like that, bro, I'm not a
nigga dish just around to be around. Yeah, I'm playing
my part, you feel me. And while I'm playing my part,
you know I got your back. I want that life,
my nigga, because I'm thinking you're my friend, thinking that

(38:46):
I mean this, you know, I show you my love
for you. Niggas said I put niggas in jail. No,
you should never did what you did. If niggas ain't
go out there and commit them crimes and you know,
break the laws, nigga have to deal with that.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
So what were they trying to say that you? What
were they trying to use from them interrogation room? Like
because they were trying to say you were the star witness.
What were they trying to use that you said to
convict the case?

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I told them so much. I don't even know ship.
I probably asked me how long I've been bald that
they were trying to use. So it's just like whatever
they trying to use, it was like they knew I
was an incooroperator before anybody did. Who you saying the state? Yeah,
every time they came, he would know, fuck you go
to Jim.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
They thought they were gonna mabe to finish the jurors
with what you had already passed.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
No, So what they thought they were gonna do is
they thought that, you know, I care about street credibility. Okay,
we're gonna put his terroorgation shot there. Did you know
everybody gonna turn and gives them and then he gonna break,
he gonna testify his stuff. We really want to do.
So when they did what they did, it's just like
this just made me more of who I am. Y'all
want to play chess with me? Let's play then yeah,

(39:56):
I'm play. Yeah, So that's what they did. I stayed
away from everybody. Nobody didn't know where I would stood
at a car Brian still before before I had to
go testify, I said, let me tell you something. Don't
call me to their trial. I would hurt the ug.
I told the state, don't call me to they trial.
I would hurt you'all. Case, I just want to be

(40:17):
left alone. I've been through enough. They everything to show,
y'all you know what I mean. I didn't do it.
They leave me out of it. I'd have been through enough.
I had to fight, fight, fight, fight, defend every fucking day,
and I had to go sit in jail for years
behind all of this. Man, I'd been dealing with this
shit for ten years. My nigga, y'all don't think I

(40:37):
had enough? Leave me alone?

Speaker 3 (40:41):
So how that ship went on?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Your mental? Like day to day like right now? You know, man,
I try to put it behind. That's why I'm here
because it's like nigga, think it thug gonna learn something
and be more mature. You got on an interview and
like you know, it started because of Wooded. So now
it's like you know, people watch them like damn man
who just studied it. You know it didn't it started
because it Doug. They just be honest with my niggas.

(41:04):
You had jealouson on your heart. Don't make me keep
going with that. He had jealouson on his heart. And
you know what I mean what jealousy made people do?
NBS shit right? Yeah, she get deep, my nigga. And
I've been holding this shit in for ten years despite
how anybody may feel about me or anybody I don't

(41:24):
care about. People are pining about me, my nigga, I'm
living or walking this shit. Motherfucker's just sitting there laughing.
I'm living this shit. I'm going through these these emotions,
these timing and I'm sitting in jail niggas leaving my
family out there, praying every night on my knees that
don't nobody kill none of my family members. And when
I get snatched up by the fat nigga, guess what happened, nigga.
I lose somebody that meant the word in me. Kennibu.

(41:48):
I don't give a fuck what the situation. Hear, my nigga,
it won't never happen now. F on the street, you
feel me, So I don't care about how nobody feel
about me. My nigga. Y'all ain't helping me. Y'all ain't
never putting no food on my plate. She never took
me out the hood and say, hey, hey, got an
opportunity to get rich. Ain't nobody never did that to me. Bro,
my whole entire life, never had nobody take me under

(42:09):
their wing and help me be great, help me be better,
help me find my purpose. I said, had nigga to
get in my life and be bad influenced. Hey go
over here and do this. Go over here, man who
I got wooded with me? Leading me stand into a hole,
a deeper hole. But now look at me, God deliver me.
Gus I got you.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
What was your mental life like behind the while, like
when you just explained like praying that, Like how did
you how did you navigate through that day?

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Today?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
It's up time. It took patience and I had to
build a relationship with God truice. When I'm when the
Feds got me, despite how anybody feels or help it,
I was like, these people are real, nigga. The Feds
got me. Yeah, it's real, nigga. We see that she's
on TV. He ain't believing in those feeds. But look,
my nigga got me for real, nigga, I go up

(43:00):
under the fucking crown the end of the courthouse woking
this motherfuckering. I thought their feds get millionaire. Niggas ain't
even got a fucking bank account. Yeah, they got me
because of a song. So what you were charged with
when you went to the fed possession of fire on
nine twenty two g one?

Speaker 3 (43:18):
You're saying that that that put them on you. Them
lyrics put them on you.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, so what happened was in twenty fifteen. We all
know what took place. After they took place, You know
that I went down. Of course they let me go there.
They didn't have a clue what happened. I ain't know
up they I was a target because what happened they
keep showing my people houses. The police was so dirty
that they telling my family, Oh, this is because of Woody.
Your house gett shot because of wood protest the wrong person.

(43:41):
This is what the police telling my family. Bro.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
But they could have thought that though, right, I.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Don't care what they think. Why you're trying to turn
my family against me? Oh yeah, maybe don't come over here.
Don't come over here. Tight shit. Nah, They're just like,
hey man, y'all needed you fee what I'm saying. Say something.
So now my brother get mad, like nigga, you're the
reason that we can't. I'm sleeping outside job. How wa
ain't on any niggas to come, Nigga. I didn't even sleep, nigga,
only the way I slept with when they locked me
up when I had my baby, and seeing the nigga

(44:09):
ride up on me while I had my baby, Nigga,
I put my babies so they can see. I got
my baby bro and my girl with me. When the
nigga rolled up on the side me, I could have
killed them by hoping that they give me some type
of grace. But the niggasna give me no grapes. They
let they want not put the gun down and I
bust on their heads. Fuck nigga get up off for
us and I stopped. I had to save my bullets.

(44:30):
They wore survival, my nigga. I didn't know to save
my bullets. Normal I would have gave it on the
whole clip. But a couple of days before they happen, Oh,
you said, count your bullets and that's what I did,
and they saved our life. So when they come to
this street shit, nigga, ain't no rules, I'm out the screech.
I don't want no problems with nobody. I don't want
no beef with nobody. I don't want to hurt nobody,

(44:52):
and I don't want nobody to hurt me. I focused
on these kids because I once was a kid that
would need the guidance and I was lost. That's why
I love these kids and be there for them so much.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
You're trying to get on what you never had.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
I'm trying to make sure they don't go down there
path I went down, Yeah, analyzing the wrong people, praising
the wrong people. The niggas making money off of our traumble,
the same people that the labels that they signed to
invested in prisons, my nigga, that's why they pushing these
drill music. The labor's getting money both ways, because soon
as you go drill or something, go to prison, they
getting paid off you being in jail. They get one

(45:24):
hundred some dollars a day per inmate. They gonna stand
business forever. Mm hmm. It's the crazy pivot.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
You did know like to make money off to actually
baby standing your standing your light, standing a standing a
dim light and make it bright. You get what I'm saying,
Like today that I see you doing the comedy ship.
Now you know what I'm saying, I see you like that.
That that's commendable, bro, because most niggas are laid down,
like through all the ship. You're just saying that you
went through and you know what I'm saying, could have

(45:57):
lost your life because somebody in your family could have
lost their life behind some ship.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Did they saying you did? Or whatever? However it go?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
And for a nigga to still be able to be positive,
it's like it gotta be good.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
It did God? I they say, walk in your light? Yeah,
I ain't got no I ain't got no skeletons in
my closet. My nigga, if you fuck with me, I
fuck with you. You feel me simple like that. If
you don't do that to me, I'm not doing that
to you. And I ain't pretending, bro. Like I tell everybody,
I come in peace. You feel what I'm saying. I
love I love everybody, And like I said, I just

(46:30):
had an interview the other night where I was just
interviewed to youth and one of the kids. One of
the questions was the child asked me, I mean, I
asked them, how did Thug and Luci come together? How
did it make you feel? And surprisingly their young nigga
change my heart, he said, saying Luci and Thug come together,

(46:53):
made it where they can hang with summer hell in
Cleveland Avenue. Niggas. Damn, Damn, that's pee right now.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Damn, that's real though, it made it to where it
ain't divided basically.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Right yeah, right, So now now I'm like, dang, bro,
I ain't look at it like that, yeah, because you
got to understand it, Broke, I've been bating this ship
for years. I've been battling for years. Bro. I had
the worst end of the stick out of everybody involved,
cause everybody tyking me.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Let me ask you something, do you think in the
moment of all that shit, like you were you you
were somewhat with having that that name like ship, that
boy woulded that boy would have got them pull up
and got them.

Speaker 1 (47:38):

Speaker 2 (47:39):
That ship was kind of like a badger honor back
then in hindsights and looking at it, it was like shit.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
They know but now, but you didn't know what all
was gonna come with that ship.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Now like I told you, like when we got them
people that's in our life, that's influencing us all, we
focused on keeping them happy. I didn't care about what
I was doing. I just cared about keeping him happy,
keeping him I'm safe, keeping him feeling like he that nigga.
You fee what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
So I didn't care how you felt, like like just say, Vincent,
knowing when you go around niggas thinking, oh they go
the nigga on that bullshit, like how that made you
feel in the in that moment.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I never, I never, I knew it was to rock
rob type so like, but.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
It was already on you though. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
It was already own not not not you've been because
the nigga see you and you be cool, but niggas
already see you and avoid you because it's on your name,
if that makes.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Sense what I'm saying. Yeah, I get what you're saying.
So so with that, it's just like the first the
first one minute is critical, you know what I'm saying.
Everybody you know trying to figure out and The first
thing I do is make everybody left, Okay, yeah one
day like oh man, that nigga cool man, Now, everybody
grab a change to me. They don't even want to
leave from around stuck on my every word. You know
what I'm saying, because, like I said, the Internet tried

(48:45):
to put these you know, king one image on me,
but that ain't who I am. You feel me? Yeah,
so I feel where you're coming from. But you know how,
I ain't embracing that. Man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Then where are you bracing it? Back then? Though? Noah,
it wasn't like that because it was secret, like the
nigga be like, oh damn n you know what I'm saying.
I see that look on their face. But it was
never it was never public. Yeah yeah, even.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Even with even with the nuts Chain ship, like it
wasn't hard for them to believe, like man, he nigga
probably got this ship.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
And you know what I'm saying, to be honest with you,
I ain't no I was did. I ain't no.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I was there they trying to tell you, like from
from being over on this side, like from being on
this side, just looking from a far I ain't know
y'all like that.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Y'all were young niggas. You know what I'm saying. I
saw you one time in Pluto Studio and you know
what I'm saying, niggas looking like what they're saying, niggas
doing like because I don't know a long time, I'm
gonna bring it up because I don't know if you remember,
I think you do. A long time ago, something happened
and it involved some people that you messed with, and
this old guy from my neighborhood like, hey, let me

(49:45):
how let you got know this ain't your squilo. He
folk trying to say you did this had something to
do to my dog getting kicked, and they brought your
name up. It was like and you getting involved something
like because the dude he messed with you so instantly
like man, look man, you know so I go, I say, look, brother,
you're putting people and ship. They ain't got nothing to
doing nothing. I didn't just say high rock. You know

(50:05):
what I'm saying. I don't do that. I don't know
nothing what you're talking about. Yeah, I tell you off
the camera, you know what I'm saying. But when you
bought your name up, so now I'm like, Damn, a
nigga won't smoke met you. You don't even say like
so cause your name. You know what I'm saying, Like
damn cool, so cool bin't wanna smoke nah, But.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
You do know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
So I know how I feel for a nigga to
have something on your name that ain't even you like
you gotta think, Bro, it's a nigga can be around
me right to do something. They gonna say, you know,
blacknam and I ain't. I don't even know nothing about nothing.
But at the time, I was like, fuck it, they're
gonna takeing everything, come with this shit. Fucking wait, you
get saying like I don't give a fuck shit nigga
bel a myth bigger until they start talking about them Rico.

(50:49):
Then when I started saying, hold up, nigga, go to
jail for these myths and I ain't got nothing to
do with a lot of this ship.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
You know what I'm saying, that won't trying to say.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
So you are what you're around or you are you
you take like Bro, I feel so at peace that
I ain't responsible.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
For another nigga attitude.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Bro, this's his best thing ever, Like cause niggas wake
up mad at they bitch and go start something a
whole another nigga got me on a wall. That's the
best feeling ever, would it? Like, I ain't gotta be
responsible for how another nigga feel.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
You see me by myself and two women in here.
That's it. I ain't responsible for nobody, nobody else feel.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
And that's the worst part to be bru trying to
be locked in with niggas and you don't. You can't
control what a nigga do when you ain't around. Like, look,
a nigga just sat there and said whole time, I'm
not even knowing that Woody think ain't beefing with me?
You get what I'm saying behind some more nigga shit
that ain't got shit to do with me. Yeah, no,

(51:47):
when I see a nigga, even though I'm already looking
for niggas who won't pay back from way back anyway,
So this shit for everybody who you get know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
I'm like, watch all the nigga like that, and I
don't even know what's going on because the niggas we
in the street at this time.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I ain't gonna lie though I ain't. I ain't no
muggy back, then I will yes ugly Yeah, yeah you were,
but your name, your name is like way up here.
So it's like and the nigga who's doing it, he
acts like he pushing the line. So I pull up

(52:21):
on him, like, hey, look, bro, let me tell you something.
I don't play by my life. You know what I'm saying.
You getting other niggas involved. So nigga like, nah, whoot
the man. You know what I mean. But if I
did an damn you. First of all, I know how
to steal some cars. I'm gonna use my head what
gud gave me my You know what I'm saying. Nigga like, man,
who so, But dude, I talked to he messed with
you too. He gonna go then he so when he came,

(52:41):
I know it's serious. He like, I got your back, Lebron.
I make sure you're good. And he's supposed to talk
to you and you're lift the long camp.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
But we'll see offline. Wyoaw that ship sounds like a
big ass big ball camp. Yeah so now, but your
name can't have you and ship that you ain't even in,
and that ship cool when it's just streat ship that
she ain't cool.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
When the folks go to god Damn saying.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
It ain't even cool when his speech. Because you want
niggas to feel like, don't play, No, you don't. I did, Nah,
I don't because like I tell people like, I ain't
a tough guy. You feel I'm saying, I was somebody
living a life. You know what I'm saying, A lie? Okay,
I was pretending to be crazy. I pretend to be
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
But sometimes you have to stand on that, pretending on
exactly and you know what I'm saying, so that pretend
become real.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Right, so that I'm trying to tell you like I
ain't pretending no more scary hell you feel me like
real it's.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Out yeah, but back in the street days, it's like
when the nigga's out there, bro, it's a dog eat dog.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Bro. It's like the owner of the strong survisor.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
It's like, what else you're gonna do? Let me tell
you the crazy things I seen. I seen a nigga
do something too. Somebody that person he did something to
can't make it, did something of him. He went to
low I don't see the nigga do something somebody and
then that person can't baby this on and got what.
I don't see so many differences scenario. Yeah, it ain't

(54:06):
even right for you, bro. It ain't right if it
ain't about protecting my family and feeding my family. Man,
I don't want no parts to it.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
And if a nigga can't see that, nigga, Steve want
see bank different. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'm
just being you look good on you. They don't say
when you walked in the motherfucker. I just had a
suit on interview and the nigga with a suit on.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Real ship.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
So I'm a whole different nigga. So I get it, bro,
because at the end of the day, Bro, this ship
ain't the same. Now, if the streets was okay, s
we're gonna handling in the street, I can respect it
because I feel like I can like how it is
in jail or whatever ship, nigga ship, you know what
it is like you said, niggas back playing me dropped
my flat?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
What come back with my ship? Passed up?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
What?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Because he's gonna stay some jail.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
But then niggas in jail.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Telling them but telling ain't never been part of the game. Yes,
but it wasn't as bad. Yes it was bank and
just when the Internet.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Brother consequencing to it though, it was consequences to it. Though, No, no, no, bitch,
you ain't get no pussy, no more want no more money.
Like if your head came out that that's what you are.
It was consequences to it.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Bro. If I was a white man, I walked in
that courtroom and did what I did, the world to
be fucking for sure, for sure. But due to the
fasts me the one who everybody want to hate me,
you know people when that got killed Lord for me,
I didn't even want to, you know, get in there
because one ain't family, imbna ask me? Could I stopped?
But they got to understand, like like it's your story
right forever, live go listen. So and my condolences to

(55:32):
everybody involved, you know what I'm saying. But what people
got failed to realize is, bro, man, it just like
how could I put this? Bro? How could I put this?
It's so deep, my nigga, you feel me like real talk,
But people don't understand, my nigga. People don't everybody out here.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
But I think you, I think at this point right
now with it, I think you're looking into it too far.
I don't think it's as bad as you think it is.
I think you just thinking about the ship that from
the past or the trolls. I think niggas actually feel
as if though.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
When this man died, bro, everybody knows said I did it.
Oh everybody, nigga, everybody convicted me homicide. Said the man
ain't even been pronounced dead yet, and your name's main
name coming up? Why them?

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Why do you think that was so?

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Because the stupid shit I've been doing will put a
lot of fearing, a lot of people hurt. And the
best way to get me off the street is about what.
Try to snitching on me, all right, so the street
try to get rid of me. So everybody's saying this
is saying that, like I say, my nigga, what I what?
I what I was able to you know, because I
pray and ask God to directly leave me. Lord, I'm

(56:50):
lost twenty fifteen, I said, Lord, please help me. I
don't know what to do. If I go out to jail,
somebody gonna kill me. I'm gonna kill smile, I'm gonna
spend the rest of mynt I'm gonna lose, lose. I
went see up the Feds at my door. I had
to go through five years in the FAED. Well four
years is three months I got out of jail. I
started trying to do music. I tried. I started trying
to create a lane for me while when you know

(57:12):
how to be baking. I ended up going back to
jail because I still was around these same people. Do
you think that jail was saving you? Though it did?
It did, but I ain't saying jail now. I mean,
should be a party. Anybody plan to be saved? Oh no,
for sure, for sure, jail saved me for myself. I
was my song in there exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Do you a chance to get your mental together right?

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Yeah? Cause I woke up one day, bro man, my
name was involved everything that was going on, shooting happening
in the club. They said it was me. I'm seeing
her saying my shot. I can't take a break now,
I gotta go to wal These niggas and this niggas
is a street leg yea legend. So I know they
canna popably smoke me, but I gotta smoke as many.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Will be Okay, Yeah, br real talk.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
It's like boy wooded wood Wood the wood.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
They're like, fuck, but that's just But that could have
been the same thing as og was telling you that
they gave you a short and I gave this nigga alone,
like nigga played the same game on the street, like Okay,
let's see if he that bad, let's put him get
with back. Let's see what the nigga. Let's see how
this goes saying what are the tougher young nigga? They
trying to say, O, g on this shit. Let's see
he said this. Now that okay, they want you to

(58:19):
come straighten me. Then they'll be like, you know that
would it?

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Oh? If I make it, that wouldn't Okay, Now what's
a full blown walk? Oh? So shit, I don't even
know what the fuck you talking about. In twenty twenty
five and that shit probably what what year that was?
So do what? Let me go back into the trial
because I don't know if y'all ignore it. I ain't
while y'all overlooking, I ain't watched the trial period for show.
Everybody did the world.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Everywhere I go, I just love you on Instagram, Like
on Instagram, they got they got like top ten wooded
moments and all that shit, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
And when a lot of people head about certain calls,
you know what led to certain points where they were
trying to say somebody was gonna hurt me. So people say, oh,
a nigga, you like you, dis lawyer, you told that,
whatever the case is, they say, But people not, they're
not paying attention to what lead to that point. So
it's like, if my lawyer to you, to you, I'm

(59:11):
not already not explaining myself. I'm letting people think they
want to think he's I can say I didn't do it,
you know what I'm saying, because I'm gonna defend myself.
But instead I just defended myself. But if I'm being
loyal to you, and then I found out y'all niggas
playing on me, I'm not ready to find a war
by myself, y'all niggas ain't even helping me. Y'all think
y'all gonna give me up for the enemies. Hell no,

(59:33):
so y'all ain't for y'all ain't fna lay me the risk.
Just try to say, okay, everything's squashing now, Yeah, y'all
ain't doing it. So I'm gonna go to war with everybody.
But couldn't that be a parallel? Could you be in parallel?
Because people was around, was coming back? And then I
you know me, I'm I ain't stupid, I play stupid.
I called him temperature, check your ass and the heartbeat

(59:55):
because I already know people on the instrumate me. So
I made a phone call. I said, Oh, what's shall
they it? Oh, he ain't right here. I said, okay,
tell them it's up crashing out on them when I
see him. Oh man, y'all letting people get y'all confirm,
listen to people about your life. Well, hold holds, slow

(01:00:17):
it down, slow down. I got on the phone with
somebody and I told him, Hey, man, this was going
on Wenna crashing. I don't care who'll see me, nigga,
we're gonna we're gonna do this. We're gonna do it
the right way on site. But why y'all letting people
get in your head? Y'all know people don't want to
see y'all together.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Oh y'all are telling me somebody feel a way about me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Now, basically saying that you're going through the same thing
I'm going through. You use y'all. So it me and
you got a problem. You over there. I'm over here
and people tell me, oh, man, don't truck bank this net,
bank this net and then they telling you, hey, you
need to do this. They'll do that. So now your
people see what you're dealing with. I don't know what
I'm dealing with. So I call your people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
My people just confirm you that I feel away, yeah,
something like okay somebody yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
And then you start doing certain stuff. Bro let me
tell you something broke. I see right there and be quiet.
Suck up the game. So as I'm sucking up the game,
I'm learning from you because you're doing all the talking.
I'm knowing how you move on, knowing how you think.
Nigga go to posting me on Instagram. Oh no, you
hear me, because I've been ryding with you. Boy, I'm

(01:01:22):
lowering up like it's December thirty. First you fear me.
Let's let's let's not pretend my nigga just let's just
go out there and crash. Everybody want let's sen meet
up at the footbolls On field where nobody else won't
get hurt. This type nigga I am we got a problem, nigga,
we got a problem. I'm not gonna sneak you. I'm
not gonna stab you in your back. I ain't grow
up that way, my nigga. I grew up with my family,
so betraying ain't never been in my blood, you know

(01:01:45):
what I'm saying. Then I start running with these niggas,
they call themselves shlne and I'm starting to see they
it'sing each other out, you know what I'm saying. Once
that line being draped, you can't come back. Once somebody
hit their ground, they can't never get back up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
But I told you this man, y'all meant to too
grown man to be trying to think a nigga gonna
be that lawyer to each other, Like bro, I can't
meet no nigga dish grown and feel like he gonna
god damn ready to die and kill for me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
I can't. But we was because of his influence. His
influence had us thinking that, you know, okay, this is
a god. We gotta protect you, feel me, because this
is the bread winner. We niggas that ain't never had nothing.
So at the end of the day, we got to
protect the money. So we out here thinking that we're
protecting you the whole time. You're not giving the flying
fuck about us. Then you get in positions you remove

(01:02:31):
yourself from us and like, you know, we don't even
we didn't help you get in that position. Now I'm saying,
your talent is your talent, not taking it front of you.
But it's a journey that you had to go through
to get there, you know what I mean. The niggas
put up on me and say, hey, but we find
strut through over hear y'all lank.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
But was niggas still doing stupid shit as a nigga
got in position. Who I'm just saying, like like they
were saying in the I seen on the internet, they
was like bro sending the niggas home because they were
doing dumb shit on the road and ship, Like I
don't care what other people doing, bank don't I'm asking
you still doing dumb sh it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
No, I never do. I just sit on the side
of you and be quiet. I'm not fear to be
playing no girls. No, Now, they ain't went on here
for but your name was in ship in the streets.
Though my name was in ship that niggas put it
in Nobody nobody to pay Wood their attention until you
start making music. Nothing like ship. Let me watch Wood.
Everybody watching everybody else because they wanted the attention. All

(01:03:25):
I did was be quiet and side on the side
of you to go look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
When he said in the video, you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
That right there because yea to understand. Look when you
no I did, my nigga, it was the time, and
so when he dropped the sun it was before anything happened.
Were like, you know, okay, but for sure it wasn't true,
so we didn't care. But you never put the music out.
Now that somebody don't drop and everybody saying I did it,
you put the music out. I'm not escaped. I'm not
a fag got nigga, do your research. These are facts.

(01:03:54):
So jail right there, nigga and always out. Me and
Jay got them boughed up side by side. You feel
me and I hold her, She hold me, so I
don't understand, like why she be showing favoritism to him
when she could have lost her life too. Made you
feel like she was showing face because how she defended him.
You feel what I'm saying I do. I will I

(01:04:16):
defeend him and get somebody who don't know that. See
Ja know she's talking about So it's like with her,
Come on, Jade, you know what I'm saying, ain't nobody
no Vietnam Bro. You can't pick and choose or who's
gonna show favorite tism to it be fair all the
way around. It's like me, you know, I'm gonna kick
him cause the nigga kick me. But when they're right,
I'm gonna let to be knowing it right. Doug a
good nigga, you know what I'm saying. He just got

(01:04:38):
to be around good people. You feel me?

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
You think do you think you ever see y'all having
a conversation?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
I love him nobody never only way I started loving
him he tried to bring her on to me. I
don't see that happening. Yeah, I don't see it happen either,
because he got a good hurt. You know what I'm saying.
Just our situations they can put doesn't the you know position?
But you but you But but I'm gonna go back
to what you said.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
You said that brou had influence or whatever, but he
was still a young nigga that was getting influenced too.
Though at the same time, all that ship was going on.
Just because the nigga got talent and get that bad
don't mean that they grew.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Up in that moment. Doug is very intelligent. She you
are too, but you still got influenced. I got my
intelligence from him. I spent a lot of time with him,
and he's just talk top top top and schooled me
that by taught me a lot he did and the
main thing he taught me well, never to trust him

(01:05:35):
in the beginning and once yeah, so let me I
told you about betray you. I don't care what the
person do. I'm not betraying you. Like right now, what
you think when I leave here? I know somebody just
said you say where you even though you know people
know know what IM just saying. I'm not gonna do
no lame ship now. I mean you fall out, Okay, cool,
i'mna get you. Are you gonna get me? But on

(01:05:58):
the other hand, what I see niggas doing, No, no
real niggas doing. I'm like, oh shit, I'm in the
wrong feeld.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
No, So BASI you're saying there you see nigga doing.
I see niggas doing all the BlimE. Ship bro, everybody
here talk putting their opinion on it. Why allegedly court
documents say young slime, Like, why is people looking for
Lloyd to and some slime ass niggas? Bro, help me
understand throw up win in that terrogation room.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
You're like my red as did nigga throw off? Bro?
You need me now because I want people to understand, like, hey,
I don't condone snitz and shit. So like like when
people be like, oh we the rat okay, cool fear
that way. You don't gotta fuck me because I ain't
looking to fuck with you. I want people to understand,
you know what I'm saying, Like, hey man, whatever rules

(01:06:46):
and whatever y'all want to put out here in the
street portray it ain't that my nigga throw up in
the interrogation room too. Ain't thor say, hey man, I
just try to spin them. But y'all say, thud, you
try to spin them. But I told and then guess
what I said myself my freedom and a lot of them,
and at the end of the day made history. I'm

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being talked about all over the world in law schools.
I get message every day from lawyers. Hey man, we're
doing a case loss search on you now. But they can, yeah,
case study, and I'm scared to hell. Come like, oh lord,
I don't you feel I'm saying I don't got got
in some hot water now because it's like the government like,
oh no, we're not gonna let We're not gonna let
you live a normal life. Jed people you know every

(01:07:29):
day once they walk up to the cousin says, oh
what do ain't know? It's your go ahead? I not.
I haven't received one ticket.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
So what you think they putting you for? Just see
if the smoking and ship like that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Uh am, I gonna run, try to see do I
got weapons of anything illegal? So once they say I start,
they know I'm clean, but I get paid the wake up?
Hell now catch me? Yeah, and I'm fast, you know
what I mean. So it's like the reputation I have
is on fast and I'm gonna run. But man, I don't.
I don't want no problems like I just I just

(01:08:00):
want to live, you know what I'm saying. For myself now,
I've been pretending and it's just who I am. I
don't charge no squash. It wasn't never be for my end.
I knew that once. Okay, if a person got a
problem with me and I don't pay them no attention.
They the one with the issue. So that's why I
did with him. He charged the white a different story
because you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Better, smart nigga though hard heat that nigga. Smart nigga
just make it hard because when you get in troll mo.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
He in trolled mo. He make it hard to be
like to to be like, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
What I'm saying, just to give him his praise because
charging to go so motherfucking far man, like a lot
of that ship that need to be saying be one
eighty percent of that ship that need be saying, be
one eighty percent accurate.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Bro, But it is self explaining to her like it be.
It just be the basic. He just got a way
of making people accept the way that he put it
out there. You feel me, but let's be real, my nigga,
right is right? This all the way around the board. Bro.
That means like, Bro, listen, I don't care if somebody
because he's a man. As soon as you piss him
out way he does gets any emotion. So now you

(01:09:05):
tap into his feelings, you control him. He walking out
interviews and all type of ship so that it's like
damn bro. But on the other hand, it could be
the character though, because when the camera, when the cameras off,
this is him off the camera. Charles Away on camera
is him off camera. I study people. I ain't gonna
lie to study.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I was saying to me too, but well not with me.
When when he pulled up and he pulled up by himself. Regular,
what's up, bros? Regular turn the cameras on any of
the turn and charge white.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Let me tell what this nigga did our first time
getting together. I said, you know everything he said about
my daughter. He had me to pick him up at
the bowl Jingers on foods industry and he will buy yourself.
I was trying to see where the head of the
fed behind me. No, he ain't did and I said,
I'm seeing him looking at him like see, I know
he studied me too, because he made that move. That's

(01:09:54):
the only way he was gonna make me respect him.
But he understand I see everybody's people. Ain't trying to
hurt nobody no more.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
And oh, you said, basically, he just he told you
pull up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Just let you know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
I ain't scared nigga. Whatever Bena be, I ain't on now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
He's stupid. He's stupid for pulling up like that. He
thinking that, Okay, nah, you're stupid. But I know the
world watching me, and he know that. See Charles White,
see I beat him, I outsmarted him again. He was
hoping to get the some type of reaction out of me.
Charles White the type of nigga to put himself in
the situation because he only thinking about the money. If
Charles White go to jail, like like he swung on Barry.

(01:10:31):
So I met Barry through Charles White, and he, you know,
he kind of managed me. So him and Barry been
they've been getting had the problems. So Barry make me
and they liked me and start working with me. Him
and Charles White fell out. Long story short, Charles White
punch Barry in front of the police, hit the come
to the show. So I'm like, Charles White swung on you.
You ain't my type of nigga. You spot already seen

(01:10:53):
that coming. Never put yourself in a situation where Mike
can hit you. Keep that nigga in your sight. Some
mad hell at Barry. But if we were to die
that Charles White quick kenneld locked this up. So he
ain't gon to jail. But I told Barrett, if you
put put a one out on Charles White, he gonna
go to Jeff misch Men. He already don't research. He's
gonna go to Jeff misterr meaning, but he's gonna get

(01:11:14):
a whole lot of bookings displain his story.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
So I tell Barry.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
I called Charles White like two days later, me and
him on the phone, say we're talking, and he said,
I'm laughing. I said, oh, smart at you again. During
the coming of this show, he thought I was gonna fail.
The old people they cheered me on, They cleppt for me,
they stood up. I was like, oh wow, you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Know, if the dude would have went for that, that's
the smart ship he see.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
He like he liked the state he tried to calculate
him move. So what he don't want to show people
is that who is stupid? You can't work me on.
It's so I had to show people that I'm human,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
So if you're in baron to try to get on
his ass or something, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
It would have missed up my career. Like it sure,
I'm buying him stupid, I'm ignerant, But this way he won't. Damn. Yeah,
So you gotta gotta understand into that Chard's White. You
gotta understand I all smart him once. People don't like
to be all smart. I all smarter charge White before,
and you know he's like, fuck it, how could I die? Nigga?

(01:12:19):
You have me come pick your bayt boat, James by yourself,
and I took you to my neighborhood, took it around
my family. Them kids walked up on him like let
me get him. I'm like, hell no, why this an
old man? Respect your elders. I didn't go around being
upbody elders. Yes I did, but you know you because

(01:12:44):
I ain't gonna lie I didn't know better. But Charles
White is a person that I ain't got a real
bout no harm. You ain't no threat in my life.
I ain't finna be none of yours, but I ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I'm gonna keep it real like he I seen, earl.
Charles ain't really folding like that though. What you mean
like he wherever niggas say he can't go, he be there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Hey, bank, If I ain't had inny of them, ill
got him. No.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
But I'm just saying if I didn't have it in
and it listen to me my name. Still he can't,
he can't no with it, no matter what, no matter.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
What, Bro, he can't. He can't prepare, compare like what
what you mean prepared? Like what he can't prepare? You
think the man came to meet me? That's out real
police friends, they're taking him. Hey, be careful with Wooded.
Be careful with Wooded. You feel me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
But what I'm saying that we can't still can't take
away from the nigga a pull up though.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Let me tell you this. When I was on that
type of time and I try to get him a
pull up, he ain't pull up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Well, a lot of nigga that nigga, this, the Muslims, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
You can this and he be there. It's different.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Don't take you out of it, take you out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
There's different. Charles White gonna really put the law on
you see wherever when like this, I'm gonna uote him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
When did a nigga give a fuck about a nigga
call the police when you play with me?

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Because you gotta understand you're grown. When I had Chard's
right right there while we're going through so many emotions,
and I knew it was God like, you got it,
you can do this. You built for this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
It's saying, they all words. He ain't really cross the
real line.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Man, Charles White is in my past. He's like him
trying to play sleep as I'm driving. I don't know
to be mad. I don't know what to to feel.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I'm like, this is playing with me. Bro. So I'm
looking at my res like where they get. I'm right,
I'm looking for twelve. Oh. But I'm saying myself like
this is this a career move? You know what I'm saying,
Charles White, hell open doors to help me, you know,
be a better man to my family and my kids.

(01:14:50):
But I keep to go to the nigga. He trying
to keep the eye called him up, just keep moving,
you feel me? He seeing them young he seeing them
young boys, young boy walking up and even shaking hand.
He's like, ship, I'm like, you ready to go. He's
like huh uh. So I'm like, you ain't ready to go.
I'm feeling uncomfortable for you. Come looking at it. I'm
looking at my fault, like, man, please don't touch this man.
He not worth it. This nigga lot a threat. My

(01:15:13):
daughter right here. Look at how beautiful she is. Just
the most beautiful gift God ever gave me. I ain't
never letting nobody take me away from her unless they
harm her or my other two kids. What about all
the other people he talked about, though, and God is
telling them, let life deal with Charleston. You gotta understand

(01:15:34):
Charles's white is a person like. No disrespect to him,
but this fits sound disrespectful, Hey where it goes? But
he motherfucker went. I He been getting picked on his
whole life. His whole life is about misery. Where people
help bullying him, overlooked him, and so now he's doing
things because he finally got people attention. You remem so
here treating people how people treated him. He's hurt. Listen

(01:15:57):
to listen to him. When he taught my nigga, he
said that, he said that I understaid. He said that.
He said that, I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
He said, he said, I tried to God damn come
with the right way. Man, y'all felt was laughing at me,
laughing at my car, laughing at me. And now he
understands that what you're saying, he understands.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
He's about the money. So now guess what he do
everything content in him. Now what he called me and
said when they thowt she for probably what come on?
What come on?

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
I was like, nah, I can't do that, he said, nigga,
if you ain't this ship for the money for the friend,
like pull on up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
He never did at car but throw it called the
same day, so.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
I had to go. You know, get that, Yeah, as
you should. Like I said, there was a dope interview
with Thug, I feel like you gave him the right treatment.
You didn't. You didn't, you didn't do doing dirt. You
know what I'm saying, because you see he hurting, and
that's why I respected you for Like, despite how I
feel about there, I love him. I don't want to
see him hurting, you know what I'm saying because I know,
like I've been hurt for so long. I know how

(01:16:52):
I feel. He don't know how to deal with it.
He ain't been going to jail, he ain't been in
and out of it. So that's why it's like that,
Like I taid thor a snap back, get back to
your old go make music. We're still rooting for you.
We're still cheering you on, my nigga, even Luci people like,
how the hell you gonna be mad at Thug and
Luci for coming together but you just can't together with
Charles Waite. He talked about your child, well, Charles Wayne

(01:17:12):
in the threat, ain't ain't no blood being shed, you
know what I'm saying. But then, like I said, the
young man just checking me, Doug and Lucy's doing what
they did made me feel like it's okay to shake
my hand for Cleveland Avenue and summer here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
So you can stop the blood from being shipped.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Yeah, but it's a lot of it's a lot of parents,
it's a lot of MoMA out here hurting my nigga
even like a lot of people. There wasn't even like
niggas don't die on on on Cleveland Avenue side. There
wasn't really promoing the violence. They really went with the
beef shit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
But could we think, could we think and it just
me just just be on outside, could we say that
they did the song to officiate that it ain't no people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
We ain't saying them niggas friends, bro. We respecting them
more by squashing it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
But how do you squash it without squashing it all
the way saying like you ask, I'm just asking.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
So when they squashed the beef, when they brought the
little baby and littleaby brought him on the state, but
involved that though yes he was, say he wasn't there.
He had to be there. Everybody already know what, say
goes Doug, already let it be know where he stood,
excuse me, where he stood at? Okay? So when when
because we already you know, we we just see it,
we get worried. First, Doug and Luci is tying to
be I got an interview saying if Thug and lucis

(01:18:18):
squatch be, that'd be bid for the city. But I
ain't say gonna be friends. But who to say their friends?
Doug and Lucer how they said and play? What's his name?
Thug said, Luca hear friend when he made a post.
But I understand Thorp. But my thing is like, hey, bro, hey,
if you're gonna be for real about this right here,
yetta be for real. I went around board forgive Gunner.

(01:18:40):
I don't feel like Gunna did not wrong like everybody
he's saying it. If y'all feel like Gunna did wrong,
they mean Thug did wrong. Because Shanny and yet the
only two that went out of the way and reached
a verdict of not guilty. The only one went out
of the way through with the process.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
So my thing is they trying to say Gunna did
because he said why there must end?

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah he did wrong? Then why he can't
ever end? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
I think that's because that's what they're saying in an interview, right,
Like I just feel how you're gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
This ship must end?

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Well see that or you had knowledge of crimes type shit.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Then only two things that that that they.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Signed to say. But gun the only way they ain't
got no interrogation video helped me understand that. Jud You
got a whole terrogation video, but they weren't about this
trial or right, right, people rods School got lot so
people don't understand this right. Rod School got locked up

(01:19:43):
twenty fifteen. Thud An interrogation was with twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.
One of them rad School was in jail fighting their case.
They don't make sense to you, So everybody said this
and rad School Rod Scoter only went through still kept around.
Why why did you keeping Roscoe closed my nigga Carrasco

(01:20:04):
got something on you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Mm hmmm, why didn't you let me ask you this?
You sat down with no jump and wat with them?

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
How was that? Didn't y'all have did y'all have problems
with something before that? Wooded today and wooted yesterday is
not wooted ten years ago? Okay, the niggas ain't worthy.
If you're not a threat in my life, you're not.
I ain't caring what came through the dough on their
friendly type of time. Hey man, they go to men
right there, and you know when he came with their energy.
You know, I'm gonna feed off. How you how you
are towards me? You aggressed? IM gonna aggress if you

(01:20:36):
you're cool, I'm cool. We talked, you know what I mean?
What what? What is about content? But he the Feds too, though.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Hm hm, oh, you don't take you don't. You ain't
take that. You ain't take it serious. Basically, what makes
you feel like the Fed?

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Because I been to the figs. You like your street niggas.
You walk in the club and you know you see
the fidgs in the club. You know right there in
there they the Fed. You're saying the ant the fidou bro?

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
How you figuring that though. Why ain't nobody put on
the paperwork on the man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Cause when you're confidence formed, your name is not cash
Jones or whatever. His name's not there no more. It's
C I C S numbers or whatever they whatever. They
want a cold name. They want to make you. You're
never going to be in the paperwork when you're when
you're when you're an informment and you're working for the government,
they're not gonna the ship that you're doing is not

(01:21:30):
going to be documented. It's going to be fired under seal.
And a lot of people be playing with these niggas,
Like these niggas really are working, they really are on.
That's why they're doing what they're doing. The fizz set
here and watch these interviews and what's the name and
build their cases on it, and you know they doing it.
Well what it is deep? Right, what it's deeper than

(01:21:56):
they can get. Gotta think about he been in the
game long enough to keep the fig The figs don't
care about money all. They cared back this information. What's
going on? The figs want to be ahead, I feel
so if you go look at the interview, well, how
long have you been free? He said? You know, twenty
some years or however long he's been free, right, And

(01:22:16):
I asked him, when you under the federal the government payroll,
you know, an informant, do they lock you up? And
he said no, I lift it alone. I did them
on purpose. Asking that in the interview, go back and watch,
he ammitted it. He admitted what he admitted that the
figs don't want their informants in position defeed them information.

(01:22:40):
He ammitted it at his own mouth. I just sat
there and left because everybody's in the street though, right,
he's in position where he could get a fags information
about celebrities. Everybody talked too much. Everybody wanted to be heard.
Everybody want to be seen. This com with being famous,
just like me sitting on this podcast. I gotta be
able to talk to you so the people can hit

(01:23:01):
the story, so they could be entertained or whatever you
feel me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Yeah, So I'm gonna tell you I watched. I watch
your interview every time you do it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Dudes, what dude? They got a dope?

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
D Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
I ship yeah you that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
When I first watch the first one you did with them, nigga,
I like, nah, buddy, untapped in you know what I'm
saying like, I don't know what a nigga wore before
all that, like street ship whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
But somebody done talk to this man.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
You know what I'm saying, Like because you letting it
all out, like you're vulnerable.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
You telling God.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
Damn like where you come from, how you grew up.
You know what I'm saying. Your family, your man, they
passed away, all this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
You know what I'm saying. So I'm living in my truth,
my nigga, That's the best place to live in. I'm
tired of faking. I'm tired of pretending. I ain't even
talking about it. I'm just doing it. Yeah, every time
I turn around doing something, you feel me. I got
artistic kids matter shirts. You feel me like I worked
with you. I wrote both, you know, I mean the
niggas came. He who to stop doing video with your mouth?

(01:23:59):
Who the hell is you to tell me to stop?
Well now, but see a lot of people say, what
do you did that? But you somebody like at first
I made it okay for you know, regular people telling
break some Yeah, yeah, Shamus did human and he should
be treated equally. Don't worry about his disability there or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
You know what took their hairship off and then with
a head on, he looked yeah and he loa super Hollywood,
Ye see me talking class time you got man, God,
God gonna make a way for your cheerdren. Man, no
matter what it is, you can't look past nobody. That's
one thing I never did, bro, look at the motherfucker

(01:24:40):
in that situation feel like I'm better than them because
they they may seem lord than me at it. I
ain't never did that, bro, because I done been in nigga.
Down there, the niggas felt like, boy, it's over with
the niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
But you know what I'm saying, So I ain't like
motherfucker be like, come on, bank.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Like I stop and talk to a motherfucker for forty
five minutes, a motherfucker that you will walk past or
spit on the ground, just because you never know how
them folks got there. And it's so easy for a
nigga mind to shift to the wrong way and schnap
and you be out said talking to the motherfucker Moon.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
I want to know, like, bro, what happened? What was you?

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Because Lotti folks was something before they were that, and
they remember how they got to that something.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Man. People are speaking about you red talk. People are
speaking about you in a great way. Dancing them did
a few other people that I went had comes issue
with and they was like, you know, man, I like
that dude, bank you know what I mean? I like
I carry on. And I told them, I said, listen
from from what I used to hear about them and
how I see them now, it's way different. Like you're

(01:25:37):
a great leader because you took everything you went through
and you transformed. So right now it's like, it's like
what I'm doing now, I'm trying to take that niggaive
shit that my pass holder and turned to a positive.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
You did that, No, for sure, but I but it's
still a challenge though, every day challenge, you know what
I'm saying, Like you still see niggas online talking shit
nigga DM me, nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Be trying me to fuck way bru.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
But I'll be like, you ain't trying me because it's
on the internet.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
You successful, my nigga, Why would you entertain somebody that ain't.
I want to do something though, for what I don't know.
Let me tell you something. Why waste your time with
a broke nigga, my nigga, fuck that, don't do that.
But you know what I'm saying, I'm just saying, that's
just that's the that's like it's going on right here
on my neck. It wasn't right here, it's on a nick.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
It's going away.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Now it's like it's going on out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
But that's just who you are, because especially when you
see a motherfucker who know right now?

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Utah, I caught somebody down bad. Didn't even see me.
I had him, didn't even see me. I was standing
right there, didn't see me. Never do. I was right
there at night. I said easy, it's easy. They would
have seemed like yeah, but it's a camera right now. Boy,
that over the phone. Get it man, Bro, it's so

(01:26:49):
much so guess what I'm saying. This niggain't worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Yeah, my kids to slap that motherfucker mouth to get
me a little simple batter shit. I ain't gonna pay,
but I get go on out to night. Slap ship
out your head.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Now. I talked to somebody right, I had a plan
for Charles White. I'ma be honest. I did bro to
amliate him. I could I could. Yeah, Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. So what my plan was when we
do the comedy, I was gonna get him on the

(01:27:22):
stage with me, and I was gonna show the world that,
you know, the these type nigga they talk on the
internet won't see it in your face. And I was
gonna do a joke, and I was gonna, like, Charles White,
tell the word how puss these niggas here and give
him the West name. You know, he's gonna cut up
and be like, you know, yeah, come when you're in
the nigga fate, they won't say it and see all
this ship you had to say about my child and

(01:27:42):
give him opportunity to say it in my face. So
you got two choices. You gotta say it and listen,
get this motherfucker going. Are you gonna back down it?
He wasn't gonna say it, I promise you he wasn't. No,
he did it. No, he did it because he I
don't think he would say about your daughter. Listen, listen
to my nigga, Charles White, underestimate me. He's telling me

(01:28:05):
all time, my friends say, don't go around you. I
was saying, I said, and your dumb an went around me.
But you know my relationship with God. You know, God
love me so much. Man, niggas, I can pray and
ask for something, God give it to me. The date.
Why you say because he can't, he can't. I'm gonna
give a fun You couldn't been trying to make amends though,
ain't know making amends. My daughter innocent. She my daughters

(01:28:29):
don't do that. Make people dated. Niggas. She walk up
on you. If I head right now, she'll hug you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
No, I did what you're saying about that. Yeah, you
feel me, nigga, say like you you you went too
far to feel like you can come back from that.
And for you to try to act like you're coming
back from that, you just trying me now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
So my thing is I watch how he do other
people in their kids, and I'm saying, I said, I
forgive him, but I'm seeing you instead of doing this
to other people. So I didn't want to apologies. Don't
apologize because it's just who you are. But I know
that them people family wish they get their hands on
I can you feel me? But I'm saying to myself,
look at him, he not worth it. He not worth it.

(01:29:06):
Charles being a really good dude, he just been through
so much, but people don't understand it. So I tell
Charles's White stock kicking people. He looked me right in
mind and said fuck him. So when I looked at him,
I'm saying to myself, like, he don't give a fuck,
It don't matter to him. But could he be so far?

(01:29:28):
So far? The maid this the way he make his money,
that he'd be like shit, but the way I make
my money. To be honest, to be honest with you,
I understand them. But the man really owns some ship
like everything is content. It's not. It's real life. When
he was riding in my car that whole time he

(01:29:48):
was working me, I was just like, Lord, keep giving
me the Strengthen he I know this. The devil tested me.
He said, you think everybody playing including him, cause let
me tell you bank. When I looked up there and
he was playing sleep, I fucking General Russ my nigga.
I'm trying to see what twelve of it because I
don't give a full I ain't scared of them. You

(01:30:08):
feel me, But I'm saying to myself, my kids need
me more than anything. You feel me. Charles White caught
me every day for real right now. They caught me
every day and I say, yeah, God, I know the
devil man. I beat him. I beat the devil. But
he gonna come after this. You think you're gonna come
back and slayship. No, because we understand each other. You
feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Oh, both of y'all just talking now, chard's white.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
You don't say something else about my child. Lord knows
I'm gonna crash out. I don't give a fuck. Who'll
see me? I'd be. I don't give a fuck about
their violator. I had a conversation about that. We ain't
had no conversation about it. I let this nigga know, like, okay, bro,
you did what you did. It ain't gonna change me.
You feel what I'm saying, But I'm not. I'm not.
I'm human, I'm not Jesus. You're not gonna continue to

(01:30:50):
kick me. But they're skilled. You hopping back in your emotions.
It's not about my emotion, because it was about my emotion.
I would have did it. But what I'm saying, if you,
if he do it again, and you understand saying him,
it's about count. He got no response to this, He
got no reason to do it again if.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
It's a response to this what you're saying. Now, No
by you saying hold up, by you saying you a
crash shot that'll make him crash out, now by saying.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
It yeah yeah, But then then I want him to
know that we at that point or no return, because
I got genuine love for you, bro. I'm not here
to bass you talk down on you. My love for
you is real. I showed you that, my nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
I forgave you you saying you get on to talk
about me, bro, But that's that's our line right there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Say what you want to say about me. But let's
just let's not cross that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
I don't even say what you have to say about me,
because at the end of the day, my nigga, like
I already showed you like I'm living in my truth.
I ain't not here trying to portray image. I better
and I deal with stuff on the day to day basis,
my nigga, It's only so much I can take you,
see what I'm saying. I love my child more than anything.
Every time I get in a relationship with a female,

(01:31:52):
they become jeddous of my child. Because I let it
be known I love this baby morning. I love anything,
and I don't do that to do that. But it's
just like people don't know how much this baby gave
me purpose. Even though I got other kids. She gave
me when I wanted to give up. I thought you said,
if I put the phone on, you didn't live.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
One didn't live one man. You know he can call
with it no matter if it's all that motherfuckers gonna
go through. Okay, call you in the man that Peter.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Four four. Fod what that number mean? I keep saying,
this ain't your number. God, God, you bless my nigga.
You always be blessed, and I receive that. And with
Chard's white man, it's just like, Bro, you tested me.
You feel what I'm saying. Whatever you expecting happened. You've
been around me. You know how serious I am. You
know when it comes to that there violence, I got

(01:32:43):
zero tolerance for it. She's like, okay, cool, you don't
got no reason. We work. We talked. We can't get
he give me advice. I gave him advice. You know
that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Yeah, you're saying, brother, the way I fuck with you,
you shouldn't be the one to try to push me
over the limit the Wade man. You fuck with each other. Brother,
you shouldn't be the one to try to make me
crash out. Bro, if you're saying, you fuck me basically
what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
But if you pay attention Tocho's white, he just wanted
he wanted selfness, he wanted love. See what, I didn't
know what caused the problem. Chot's white. Like, let's go
to the mall. Me being wooded, always this person. I'm
not looking at myself like a star, a celebrity or
famous person. I'm looking at myself. It's the same as
always being. But we go to the mall if I
want to take pictures with me, so I'm like, I

(01:33:22):
get overcrowded. IVE been in jail. I've been in a
situation where you got white people. I don't like that.
I get, I get like you seem I'm really aggressive,
but people not knowing it. But I'm like, damn, and
then you know, once I see that, it's all love.
I come back, y'all take picture. Chot's white right here too.
We take pictures, but then I don't know what happens.
You feel what I'm saying, It's just like, damn, all

(01:33:43):
of a sudden, you created a whole problem with this
and you you took it to the internet, so you
don't say everything you have to say. This shit can't
provoke me. But it's like, okay, I forgave you. You
know what I'm saying normally once you know me like
a lot of my old friends. Oh man, who woo,
don't told you an interrogation you one, y'all need to
know me. I gave y'all show up my back no
matter what happened with me in another situation when it
came to your bitch ass nigga, I defended you. I

(01:34:04):
rode for you. I to pop my things for you.
That's how you should remember. Yes, So now y'all, negga
gona pick your thud. I don't know y'all, don wouldn't
even knowwedg y'all niggas. Y'all all on the man nuts
now though, don't win the terrogation room. They been thug
can do it, Oh he can cool, So help me
understand what it was thug did they make y'all be like, okay, thug,

(01:34:26):
do that compared to what it was I did? I
asked him. See what I asked him what he said.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
He said them nigga was actually tell him. He said
what he did well, he was trying to free his man.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
So what he tried compared to what I did, it's
a difference, my nigga. You said he tried, I did it. No,
hold on, hold on, let me let me say this.
It ain't you know. I ain't like I said on him.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
If you ain't trying to defend or condemn, No, nigga,
I'm just here to play, you know, politics, standing in
the middle the niggas say. I don't think he feel
like you did nothing wrong with our I think only
thing he said what you said was you started at
a bullshit. I don't think he feels like you me personally.
I don't think you feel like you did that wrong
with all that other ship.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
I'm gonna be honest. I got my feelings because it's
like my niggas, you know, I see him take it
to the chin. I took everything, the blame for it,
the snitching, I took everything, the jail time, the loss.
I took all the suffering for you to get on
it on a bus name. Me and you had a
talk one day, Me and had a talk, and I

(01:35:33):
looked him in his eyes and I said, trust me,
And that exactly was he respond He looked at me
and shook her head.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
It's about when all that ship was going on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
I'm telling me and him nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Let me ask you something though I don't want to
make this. You know what I'm saying, just a thug
thus shit? How you feel about well, did you watch
the ship with a little lin life?

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
Mm hm, I watched it?

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
How you feel about what he was saying?

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Bullshit? In what way? So?

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
You said you watched OGZ do this, so you think
this is what they do. No, he's saying that that's
what they basically can hurse conhurse in the dawn.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
So so my thing is like this, this is why
it's bullshit, because it's like, okay, you know right and wrong,
no matter what the situation was. But I'm not saying
in a bad way to us, slight like because he
wasn't no person. They go to jail. He don't know
how this go. Yeah, that's what he said, right, So
that's what I'm saying. But I say the bullshit because
it's like he tried to throw to another gun. I

(01:36:29):
don't like that I didn't like that, you know what
I'm saying. It all he was good until he said
that part, Like well moved to him said yeah, man,
you know what I mean, I do a dying. I
mean I do a nigga. I ain't doing no dying.
You know it by known to the stupid, he probably
did say that, But it's just the fact that how
niggas tried to play it like Okay, I followed the lead.
I followed the lead or the big the big bros,

(01:36:51):
you know what I mean. Like nah, my nigga usually
did what was best for you. That's it. That's it,
my nigga. I mean, you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
But we gotta play devil advocate and say like he
broke it down. He said he heard Brian still say
that that was a good deal. So he thinking that
deed throw up words like take the deal?

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
Could that work like that?

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Listen, this is your life, my nigga. Why you ain't
on throw to give you the green light to do something?
You feel me? Why'd you doing that?

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
So at the end of the day, my nigga, Oh,
we're a team though we were on the case together.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
That's why I respect it. Respected the case together. Now,
So when they did that, guess why I said, Okay,
because one is this Rico. Our lawyers should be working together.
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so he thinking that, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
I wasn't there. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
I'm just saying what he said. He thinks he saying.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
He he saying he thinking by Brian telling them lawyers
that they're working together, saying Okay, good deal, you got
your clients. So she and niggas like, shit, what them
deal is at? They just seen Gunna walk out. That
motherfucker so shit. Wanna thought or told Ganne to take it?

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
If you if you on they got their case and
you don't see Gunna walk out and they can't tell
you to go home, you feel the wait on thorp Ord,
you fitl go home.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
If I was on their case, they'll probably have me
in third position. I can't say, you.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Get my nerve.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
I'm gonna keep it in real they probably have me
in thumb position. I can't say, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
For sure. Yeah, we slidlight shoting them sound like shots.
She never even been on the case for when exactly
they had.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
I don't think gun should have been on the case either.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
I think the way them folks play it is okay,
we're gonna get niggas in here that really ain't gottenhing
to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
We know they're gonna start trying to act like they
want to tell whatever it is that they know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
So I'm gonna tell the whole strategy to the wise
here trial. It was to humiliate Yeah, say that right, motherfuckers.
You in the head ahead. So what they try to
do is say, you know what, even if we don't
get a convention, we destroyed it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
Yeah, we destroyed their street credibility type shit.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
Yeah, that's why they got gonna sline light, shorty dupe.
You know what I'm saying. You know, what they do
is what they do. I'm not trying to take away
from their street image. But at the end of the day,
this whole white cerrico came about. It really was one thing.
As everybody seen, it was only about the nut once
it was everybody else was just people they was grabbing

(01:39:26):
and just trying to put all that together. There was
their mistake on the state side. You know what I'm saying,
because it's like you made something, you try to make
something bigger than what it was. So when you want
to grabbing all these people and doing what you were doing,
that's when I noticed, like, oh, they don't care, but.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
You do know you been not getting no more trouble
in that food the counter.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
That's why I want everybody to know how serious I am.
Like nothing, but you been not still a cable or
I've been stilling out the store. I been stilling bubble
gun and shit.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
But but dahn real shit because you pitched them folks
all they did it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Bro, Like, I gotta understand, I be dealing with a
ten years my nigga, This ain't what I asked for.
You feel what I'm saying, I'm leaving out survival bro
the state No like like everybody try to say I'm
a killer. If I was a killer, I'd be spending
the rest of my life in jail with the rest
of the killers.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
You think how you think of the win is Glanville
the state in there?

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
The boy even if the jury say not guilty, guilty,
motherfucker glam when playing with Thug, he didn't want nobody
with Thug. And this is what I seen my own
eyes of like they would put fearing me, they would
scared me like, oh wow, the judge is too invested
in his case, like now they want him. You feel

(01:40:42):
what I'm saying something like damn. But that that's why
I understood the power of influence, because they judge felt like,
you know, I'm gonna hold you accountable. You got this
influence to do this, do that, and this is what
you used it for. I'm only assuming that were his
issue because I'm pretty sure thought on know Glenville. So
but the judge will see it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
You got we got four years to twenty thirty. What
twenty thirty look like for Wood?

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Right now, I'm trying to be a great example to
the you know, the upcoming artist is youth that you
could be whatever you want. You can do whatever. You
ain't got to just be label to rapple. You could
do stand up coming and you can do movies. You
can do all this, be all you could be. It's
show life, it's your path with me twenty thirty, I'm
being the movies. I'm gonna I'm gonna have it. I'm

(01:41:25):
gonna have a whole big program with the youth where
these people like you know what we gotta get his ass,
you know what I'm saying, because he's making a difference
in the world, trying to get that client ring in
the linter all the way down, you know what I'm saying.
And I ain't asking nobody to be a part of it.
If you want to be a part of it, you
just show up and be a part of it. But
you know, I'm gonna do it because I want to.
What's a lofts kid? So i'ma have their kids going

(01:41:47):
to the house game, Falcons game, foot braids game, just
to show them it's more to life, because that's why
I loved thug. Then he can put me on the plane,
took me to another state. You know, we had our differences,
but just shows you something outside of the Canada, yep
in Atlanta. Yeah, let me, let me, let me, let me,
let me give you this for you go.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
I think what you should do is go ahead and
write a hypothetical book, like talking about everything that you've
been through, but put a disclaimer like some of this
ship is fake, and just tell all the ship that
you ain't told all the shit exaggeration ship.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
That should be a best seller. Yeah, I know, but
it's like I want to bab I even wrote it crazy.
I can tell you the intro and now everything. It's
a crazy book. But it's like, what part with the kids.
They're gonna accept their bullshit, They're gonna accept their violence.
I was doing ship that you wouldn't even believe, my nigga.
But you gotta tell the kids I'm lying. You can't

(01:42:45):
because now that she let me tell you this, I
puzzle the mind. When I started putting things in their mind,
they would never even thought about you feel me?

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
So damn, that's commendable, you saying you you'll god damn
pulled back from the bag just to make should just
so you won't contradict what you're doing with the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
Yes, sir, that's silent. You gotta understand it. Man. I
ain't know what a gun was until I say on
TV I heard everybody in the rep song I wouldn't never,
I didn't raise. I wasn't raised around a gun before
I saw a gun seeing it on TV. I was
like a gun by watching it on TV. Yeah, real shit.
I learned how to drive by watching TV. I learned

(01:43:23):
how to steal cubs by watching TV. I learned how
to be stupid. By watching TV. So now I'm getting
out here with I'm out here every day with the youth,
every day when I ain't working, like when I leave
him to go with the youth. I'm I know, talk
every last one on bill a YouTube. Y'all post on Instagram,
tiktop for free, post on YouTube and get paid. So

(01:43:44):
what about the streaming shit? I said, yeah, I started streaming.
What you're doing. You're bagging up from that streaming about
twelve be pulling up my nigga my life real, bro?
You feel me like while you're streaming? Yeah, yeah, like
when I go live. But I just went to try
to take care of child's what Nigga GFP watching my live?
Niggas soon they see who I met, nigga GFP pull up.

(01:44:06):
I said, down, if you get me every I'm not
laugh like that. They nigga paranoid Nigga GFP ride by
and they go sit up around the corner, wait on me.
I wait on them. As soon as I get in
my car, pull out. Niggat come right back in front
of me. He ride this way. I go this way.
Man bus, you turn halp me down, pull me over.
I pull over? What's up? Let the one of down man,
this man pull me over seven times, the same state trooper,

(01:44:29):
that same state trooper? Or what I swing to know this?
You how you not notice me? You put me over
in the same car every damn chance you get see
you want me to run you hoping I got something.
You want to be that super cot that locked me
up and put me away for the rest of your life.
But let me tell you on my niggas, I've been
living a life this y'all see me for who I
really am. I ain't never going back into how it

(01:44:52):
used to be. But it's in money that streaming shit
doing it. It is my nigga. But like I tell you,
but it real, it real, bro. Nobody want to be
getting harassed by the police. I can't. Every time I
think I'm getting my life together, they gonna come remind
me we're still on you. Then you got uther es
and tell these people out in the world. So it's
just like trying to put myself in the situation like

(01:45:12):
I go home and do it in the house, But
I lose motivation, you know what I'm saying, to go
live as much because it's like the more I say
on the internet and talk it's like the more I
be exposing myself.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
But while you talking about you, why you just don't
like you know how someone like like how most of
them niggas do. They just talk about current topics. They
just get a perspective on different topics like shit that's
going on in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
Like the food stamps like this and that. I ain't
out the way there, okay, Like how you said niggas
say something to you. Yeah, yeah, I ain't out there.
I ain't gonna lie like I want to be all
the way there, but I ain't gonna lie. I be
Danny on my way to you before God say, what
the hell is you doing with Nah?

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
That's a great answer. That's why I said that. Why
they know they be like bank man, you gotta start
speaking on them. I ain't speaking on on nigga because
I ain't gonna be able to take what they say back.
So I just let them folks gone and ask people
questions and give them my perspective and could you look
at it like this? And the fucker I feel about it?
You know what I'm saying, Because that's when nigga go
to that's when shit happened. When you personalize how you
really feel about something? Fuck how I feel about something?

(01:46:13):
You ad me how I felt about some shit? I
told you, well, it's how I feel. But other than that,
I ain't volunteering that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
Let me show you how unique God is. Last year
God revealed everybody hand to me. Let me tell you
what God knows about me that most people don't know.
I'm a good person by heart, and from which on
witch you every step of the way, every breath I take.
I ain't never did no land shit, no nigga person never.
It's something I could say proudly right there, I smile,

(01:46:43):
nigga got it, ain't gotten any of my past where
I gotta. If I said I'm snitch, I don't give
you a fuck shit. We know the truth, bro. I
would give you my last if it's a thousand dollars nigga,
I don't give a fuck. If it's my lass, I
will give it to you. And that would be my
damn problem. They've been my problem because I said, before

(01:47:05):
I reward you, I'm gonna show you my nigga. I
couldn't even get ten dollars to getting done to eat
from nobody. I couldn't call nobody's phone and ask them
to pray for me. Nigga. I went three days while
eating nigga all I did, work out and prepare for
their trial. Nigga. I told my family every day, Nigga,

(01:47:26):
I'm about to be rich. Nigga. I don't know how
I feel it, but you know, that's that's what That's
what for any nigga at watching, that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
When you're going through the worst times, the best times
are near. Hey man, that's the truth. That's the God
of the truth. You know what happened my nigga. Nigga
woke up the next day, nigga and had to go
in the courtroom. Nigga and look, my nigga, I ain't
even tell my family to come. And I called them
and told them this last time I go to jail
because I gotta go to jail. I gotta go to jail.

(01:47:56):
I gotta go ahead and plead the fifth because this
ain't my duty to see the up here.

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
And oh yeah, the first time when you went in there,
yeah it ain't they booked you to them.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
Yeah, I went to jail. Yeah, people ain't realize it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
Scared of So how long would you have to stay,
have to stay if.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
They were gonna take me to court every day. I
didn't even know that. I thought that once I pleaded
the fifth I just want to sit in jail to
whatever I told them, people give me two years. I
willing to go see in jail for two years for
people there. I feel like said, fuck my life, but
you had to stay in jail till after the trial.
Oad that jer just told me indifferently. I still can't
pronounce it right, and definitely something like what they mean

(01:48:39):
that nigga said until every defendant resolved, every defendant. So
I'm like, damn, they could take years and then you
know it's me. How could you outsmarte me? You feel me.
I never talked to you. I never talked to the
prosecutors for them to know what my resp one is

(01:49:00):
gonna be, my attitude gonna be, never talked to the
defense for them to know I did.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Told Brian, still don't bring up what I did. So
when that you can cat okay, I'm fin of aut Damn,
just go ahead and be wooded.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
I never was my nigga. Don't force me no matter
whoever it is. Don't force me because when you forced me.
I'm standing up to you. I'm stunned for myself.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Oh you're saying I was never gonna go do it
because I remember you put out a tweet or some
I post doing the trial. Yeah before they were right
right before the trial, Yeah, right before you got got
caught you and what you had said, something like throw
up my boy something like that. What you said the
innocent Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Nigga's
already saying like, I ain't going in there. So your

(01:49:42):
whole thing was then your mindset was I'm plead in
the field.

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
Yeah, the prosecutor. I've been told them I'm gonna pleat
the field. Every time they locked me up, they offered
me time served, you go free, no papers, no nothing,
I mean just say no. So they saw what I
was doing. That's why they put the interrogation video out there. Okay,
let's take a street credibility of the way. Then he
gonna cooperate. No, I ain't. I don't give a foot

(01:50:05):
by how these people. I'm living his life. I don't
care what these people think. So when when they didn't
indict me and didn't charge me, I was like, oh wow,
you feeling God's good. God is real and you know
whatever come with it, You know what I mean. I
don't wood him, so I not to hunt myself. So
when I was going to trial and I was seeing
it there, I didn't. I didn't have the feeling because

(01:50:26):
I never thought I see myself understand you know what
I'm saying, but as in understanding cooperating, I knew I'd
never do that despite how nobody feel. And I don't
know if any nigga out there want to test me out,
you know, get some stripes. Let me tell you what
the police ain't gonna never do. They're not gonna want
to never sit down and interview me. My credibility to
law enforce me is dead.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
What you hold up, breaking down what you're saying, you're
telling them what I'm telling him to pull up cut
The police gonna bleed them over you regardless.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
I'm saying, my nigga. If a nigga feeling in some
type of way towards me, my nigga, and you feel
like I don't deserve to be treated like any other
person doing you, you want to take upon yourself and
eliminate me. Pull up you in your head like me
that's all in my head.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
The niggas won't pay back from way back.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
That's all in your head. Because I want people to
understand it ain't in my head. I want people to
understand like I ain't missing with nobody. Y'all ain't got
never speak to me or deal with me a day
in your life. Y'all spending your time investiting me and
worrying about me. You ain't got to rip about me
telling on you. The police won't believe me. The police

(01:51:31):
don't like me. They don't fuck with me at all.
So if you want to come do something to me
and I live, you ain't got a rabout going to
jail for it. Me knocking on your front door. Lick
that mhm.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
Now you can't even absorb their energy, bro, I know
like that ain't coming for me.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
Hurt, hurt because I just took the shirt off my
back and gave it to you while raining, and you
out here playing too. You had same nigga that got
beat up over here, and you call it the nigga
that me come ride with me?

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
What who's john on you? All? Such? Such? Then? Are
you here about them? Nigga? Done got spent? You're like well,
what else matter know? I mean, you don't even know.
Job already taking care of you, because that' that real love. Nigga.
A snitches mother going there? MOTHERU tell the police everything
ain't no trial, ain't none of that straight up. I
ain't never took no cooperation deal. I would cooperate and

(01:52:28):
working with these people. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
Never if you say one thing to the to the streets,
what would it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Be each one teacher, one man? It's your life. It
ain't bak life. It ain't hurt life, it ain't hit life.
It's your life. Everything you go through is what you
choose to go through. Fact, whatever you embraces, what you
choose to embrace. We bring trauma and pain on ourselfs
live for you go get a job. And I say

(01:52:55):
that with my heart because if I knew what I
know now, I never been in this this predicament. People
think I want to be famous. This is the hardest
shit the cause any time you slept shot somebody. I
got rid by baking timz and people trying to suit
me and get me locked up. You feel me, it's
so much Come with this ship, bro man. Living a

(01:53:18):
low key life is way better than living a famous life.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
If you could say one thing to thought, what would
it be?

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
Shape back, keep going, nigga. They show life niggas. You
the goat, nigga. God created you, Nigga. Focus nigga. Get
back to that thought, nigga. Let us see, let us
see happiness in your eyes. Nigga. You know what I mean?
Get out there and make that good music. Were still
gonna ride to it. Nobody gonna never stop me from
playing Throup.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
What what you think that got him in that space
that you see him in.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
He broken from what being cut off. Some people don't
cut him off. They hurt him. People ain't embracing him
how they used to embrace him because they don't want
their name to be tied to Oh you working with
Shot and here snitch.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Look, so you don't think, You don't think before you think.
This just happened before all, before after all the bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:08):
Or when he came home he was like that, So y'all,
y'all go to when Thud came home, he dropped money
on money. He fuck niggas telling that, and I gotta
be the one calling them friends. His confidence was too
fucking high, my nigga. His confidence was too high, so
what life is. What you put out into the university
is what you're gonna receive. Thud put out his bulls
shit out when he got out instead of coming out

(01:54:30):
showing mature maturity. But could he could He could have
put the bullshit out because he's broken at that time too.
He didn't have to. Well, he could. He could have
been masking though I'm just playing them. He couldn't been
masking right in that moment.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Like couse what he's saying in the interview, Like bro,
like my brothers crossed me out basically, so he could
have been masking.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
Henn't crossed people out. He don't cross people out. Thank
about the people you crossed out. That's like me, my nigga.
That's why I say what I say and talk how
I talk. I ain't gonna play a veetmam. I know
what I don't did. Doug, you can't play the fielding.
You know what you did. But let me tell you this,
my nigga, when you came home, you put that nigga
this shit out there, the nigga rats telling Connor Rat

(01:55:11):
don't bell with gunning. This is what you did. If
you never did that, the world already said, Doug, is
that nigga. All you had to do is to come
out and just make music and let that shit be
because it spoke for itself. But instead you put that
energy out there and guess what you did. You pushed
away out the genuine love that people had for you
because people didn't want to see you go through that

(01:55:31):
every day. Watching Thug in court, he gave people hope.
He kept his head up, he kept his spirit up
no matter what. He didn't start looking like he looking
to you you just got out. He looked more like
he's supposed to look in try now than he did then. Yeah,
if he never did what he did, Doug could have
been like, you know, hey man, I squatted this way,

(01:55:52):
he said. Then we came home squat to be got
to see the situated we're gonna Hey man, it ain't no,
it ain't no hard feeling about love. You know. I mean,
I'm listen to do your own thing, you know what
I mean. We still could work if I choose to
want to work, or whatever the case is. You know,
you're still in the label because you're getting paid for him.
Do whatever you squashy be with luci if doody came home,

(01:56:13):
Squatchy be with Gunner and Lucien.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
An't matter whatever it is Ego though you know Ego
play a part in a lot of that ship. Seeing
a nigga acting like you don't give a fuck, and
I feel like you wrong me. I'm just speaking from
what he said, like I'm not speaking from what I
because I'm asking these same question that you asked, Like, Bro,
why he's just gonna?

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
He was like, Bro, hard to go on when you
really really love a nigga and you feel like you
know what I'm saying, So there, what the case? Let
me tell you something, my nigga like like people like
you so forgiving, like you forgive thup. It's like, I
really know what's going on. You feel me? So he's
like third did wrong with me? I did wrong the thug.

(01:56:50):
I'm not gonna see him play a Vietnam. You know
what I'm saying. I understand this. That's why I always say,
you know, like, hey, this is my nigga. I love him.
I let it be known no matter what I love
him speaking on him. If you somebody that's speaking bad
on Thud, I might slap the shit out of you.
You know what, I'm saying because you don't know what
he dealing with. You don't know where he's battling. You

(01:57:11):
feel me, everybody ain't battertest like that. Like you know,
they takes a lot to seeing in jail, my nigga,
especially for a nigga that living there, high luxury life
by you go see in jail boy, that ship the
boy take you down boy. So you know, like I said,
but Thud did it when he started saying conn and rack,
then you made a song to my Oliver snitches like man,
you can call me a rat, my nigga, I brought

(01:57:31):
you home, and I told you before I did, I'm
bringing you home. So if I told you before and
then did, why you still feel like you know who
the rat? Why? You know how many other other niggas
on their case con said thank you bitch, I love
you for life. You know how many people did that?
You know what? You know what I did for Thud

(01:57:54):
that that ain't been in supposed I was do. Why
the police took my phones. They wondered what I had
on my I was sneaking recording the state I had
my phone recording They ask and everything. But guess what
I didn't do I didn't give it to Brian still
them meither I had insurance to protect myself because at
the end of the day, nobody don't care about me.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
Oh you had them, you had their interrogation video.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Yeah, you know what I mean. I send that motherfucker
room phone recording and I'm saying what I'm saying, They
saying what they're saying, and I know this is gonna
help damn. But so you know everything I was doing
to secure it, man and security.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
It's trying to move past that ship no wood, Yeah,
to move past everything, because not it's like bro resentment
and anger only hurts you. It don't hurt nobody else,
like nobody else. Don't give a fuck how you feeling
about this ship?

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
You you screet my nigga? You you you want to
come out here and act like you're forgiving Lucia and
work with Luca and do all this ship with Lucia.
You feel I'm saying this feeling yeah, because you could
have did that with Gunn. Now I don't want it
to done to me. It would have seemed once to
see if you did it with Gunn, it's been bloodshed

(01:59:09):
and not saying between you and Luca. You know what
I'm saying, Like I'm saying, did what make you look bad?
You willing to forgive somebody that was trying to hurt
you and that you were trying to hurt, But you're
not trying to forgive somebody that didn't know any better.
They took a Please Conan, don't go to jail coming
out with all this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
So do you think if if if let's say hypothetically
of God, now all right, y'all came home, we came home, Yeah, y'all, Yeah, yeah,
once y'all came home. Y'all just calling me, But y'all
couldn't do that. But it's like, bron play the ship
like it was all a game?

Speaker 3 (01:59:47):
Why it say? Will be right now? If niggas be
like shit? Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:59:50):
We all found were back at home, y'all look at that,
right man? What best friend? What type of friend they
had when they been through shit with you? Right? Yeah?
We all made bad decisions where we learned from we
all went through that. We learned we know what and
what not they do? No more? So why why I
go choose new friends that ain't never been doing that

(02:00:10):
with you? Yeah? Because you know how to deal with
the relationships. Goddamn, everybody showed through how much they love him.
Niggas willing to sit in jail for thug. You heard
something like shorty, you heard mon to Schlod everybody, even
though we all know each other, all world was a

(02:00:30):
piece of shit, but all of our lord to Thu
was what it was. Just be honest, my nigga. So
if Doug Doug come home and not do what he did, why,
I said, it would have been bigger. That's my snitches
and rats. You feel what I'm saying. That's not the case.

(02:00:53):
This is not the situation where like with six nine
situation where all his schol defends went to prison. The
boys who did go to prison in this case, they
went to prison because the state had them debt to
the room for what they did already, that wasn't the rico.
Them boys popped somebody allegedly for the ones who gonna
try to twist this up. They popped somebody and got
caught for popping them, and they said, okay, well see

(02:01:14):
y'all this right here, we just gonna put you out
on this rico. But that's how it was. They did separately, so.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
They all beat the Rico too, but they got charged
with what they.

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
Yes, so life, for instance, you had people sitting in
jail for aggravated salts compared on some stupid shit that
they just doing while they was outside. Why sale was
never a game? That's what my whole argument to the prosecutors.
A game has scruptions, had leadership, It had roles you
know what I'm saying, protocols and all that stuff. This
never had that. This is a whole bunch of motherfuckers
doing whatever they want to do. Doug is a successful man.

(02:01:44):
They made it out his environment and everybody said, oh,
I'm ran behind his bandwagon. So this is what that was.
First of all, how the hell is this a game
if there's no loyalty being here amongst each other. We
all talking about slamming and stealing and rubbing and killing
each other. So how were a game? We can't even

(02:02:05):
trust each other facts? M hm? You feel mean? So
you know, like I said, man, it's a process that
we went through. We overcame. Gut is so good, you know,
we learning from it. You know, thug on shape at
one of these days, I hope that I pray for him.
I pray for him. I pray for Slug. I pray
for everybody because Thug ain't the only one on this case.

(02:02:26):
See that I watched, this is what a lot of
people did. They made it about Thug. You had, you
had a little seventeen year old, eighteen year old little
Rudd young man had a light sentence already if he
got life, why is y'all dragging him in this trial?
You know what I'm saying. And then for those who
went to jail, they don't even exist, So you know

(02:02:46):
it's a lesson learned. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
We can do this shit all night with it, I think. Man,
once again, Bro, I'm gonna tell your brother the path
of your home. Bro, I definitely take my hand off
to that and give you much praise and respect. I
think that's communable, Bruh, stay on that, man. But with
one thing about it, where we come from the shit
that we know, the trauma that we've been through, That
shit easy to get back in that mold bro. So
a nigga gotta goddamn just continue to pray and try

(02:03:10):
to move yourself far away from that shit as possible
now because like you can even hear in your conversation,
like when you when you tell a nigga pull up
like you can't even like you just said, throw, invite
the energy. You can't invite the energy, bro, you can't
even invite it to yourself.

Speaker 1 (02:03:24):
I want people to I say that I want people
not human So when I talk with good sense, I
don't want people to estimate my ability to push the button.
That's why I say this. So my thing is yeah,
because my life is important, and I want people to
understand that my family metter to me just like your
family should matter. Again, we throw my nigga. Listen, Bro,

(02:03:44):
there's no bad blood. If me and throug an hand,
you know, is it be a time for that. If
we don't, then anyth ain't meant. Whatever happened in life
is already written. But we ain't gonna do, Bro. We
ain't gonna sit right here and pretend like she is
with it. Ain't And like for example, it feels so

(02:04:07):
much better to walk away from bullshit and them bank
then't engaged in my nigga facts. But I've been out.
I've been out two years. I told my buddy man,
I don't know to be happy. I'll be mad. As
for Bro, I ain't nothing that on without doing that
in nobody Hey man makes y'all, what's your what's your YouTube?

(02:04:27):
Woo the verse wood of fishers Man.

Speaker 3 (02:04:29):
God may you say self maybe, but I'm gonna say
God made wooded man, God may bank man.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
Y'all make sure y'all go light to try. Come into
the BAT network, and I'm gonna send you the numbers.
Nigga shit, do some number. I'm gonna send you something, bro,
she never did that.

Speaker 3 (02:04:41):
I got you with thank you.

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