TGI – M*A*S*H 810 “The Yalu Brick Road” - Pod Meets World

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Do you remember when we did try to do a
show together called Ady d TV?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Do I remember? It was a seminal moment in my life.
It was really when I really fell in love with
my wife, right, that was a big part of it.
But yeah, it was years, dude, We were on that
for years.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
We had so much so for everybody out there, we were,
I think, way ahead of the game because now it's
kind of what everybody's looking for.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
But we thought that Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
As good and funny as it was, was antiquated in
its format. So the acting was funny, the sketches were funny,
but we thought the sketches were too long. The musical
guest should only come on once and at the most
should be an hour. But then we thought that's even
too much, and we wanted to do a thing where
it's like you're flipping through the channels.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
And remember the longest skit was what a minute?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, our goal was to keep everything under ninety seconds
and yeah, just like an overwhelming amount of joke content
and to not develop any of it. Well well, actually
at some point we did break, like we broke some
skits up into like six parts.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well, remember there would be there would be one main
skit throughout the episodes that we would break up three times,
and then individual skits in which we work.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
But add went through many phases. But the first phase
was let's just get together and shoot what we think
is funny, and so we wrote some great skits. We
got Jeff Sherman involved as one of the writers from
Boy Meets World. We got Steve Hibbert involved, Yeah, the
legendary John DiMaggio. My brother was there. You and I
were in every skit.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Ef.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
We're doing a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Of different characters.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Your wife, I had just worked with her on Pepper
Dennis and we had an actress drop out the like
three days before we started filming, and we were shooting
mostly at your house, and then we had a stage
that we got access to and we shot a whole
bunch of content over the course of I think two
weekends and had the greatest time.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
We not only had the greatest time, but it's still
some of my favorite skits I've ever done. I mean,
we at one point we got fully dressed up as
the founding fathers and we did the DVD commentary of
the signing of the Declaration of Independence, so outdated.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Now I mean even the name add is outdated because
now it would be ADHD TV right, Oh my god.
The signing, and then we did the Bible Writer's room.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
The Bible writers are amazing for everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Was like, we had so much money, yeah, and I
really what happened is Alex came and saved us because
we had this actors drop out.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
And I just remember being like, you're gonna play We're
doing a cookie show. You got to play like a
really pick off Rachel Ray. And then like five minutes later, Okay,
now you gotta be a kling on. And then like
five minutes later, could you could we put on this
strap on bildo. It's really gonna be funny, do you remember?
And she was like okay, and she played all these

(03:13):
characters and I was just like I am so in
awe of your talent and your your willingness to be game.
And we had Yes.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
The first skit we shot, No, the first skit we
shot was MythBusters, and the myth we were breaking was
the myth of the female orgasm.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I just some of the most fun to because I
remember I was at first, I was like, well, I'm
not going to be in many of these, I'll just
help write them and produce them and put them together.
And then I remember you had this. Then you were like,
we just just keep doing like random phobias, and you
were like, we should just do sketches that just expose
a certain phobia. And you were like, somehow the phobia
of someone with an English accent?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Do you remember?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
And I just had to be and it was just
me improvising with like a horrible English accent, and yeah,
I just could not get through it. Would you like
to see my boot? We were doing so many.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
We had one it was the Shiloh was you and
Shiloh were little kids running around with the new toy
mister Pointy thing, which was just the giant like spike
that would Yeah, it just goes.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
To show like when. So we shot a bunch of it.
We had a lot more ideas. Eventually, the pitch that
we actually did take around was that we would go
to colleges. Do you remember? Yeah, So the idea was that,
and that we had John Landis attached to direct.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
For us was going to direct, and then Second was it.
Second City was going to produce like we had it.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
And we're going to go to colleges and do basically
like a mini Saturday Night Live, but at a different
college every week or every month or whatever. The idea
was that you and I would host, we'd bring a band,
and we do a college live show and also shoot
all these sketches to be in between. That's a great idea.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's a great idea. It's still a great idea.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
But I was thinking about it the other day because
we could do so many ad D skits now that
are so conducive to the phone.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I mean, that's what it is now.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Essentially, what we were doing is what people are looking for,
quick funny content. I mean we had so much. I
bet I wonder if I could even find all that
footage somewhere. I don't even know where the hell it is.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
We don't want to find it, no, nope, no, no.
I remember.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
One of them is just we were switch switching around titles.
One of them was just ride My Pimp instead of
Pimp My Ride.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Really remember it was just Alex riding John Demaggio down
the streets.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I don't remember that at all. Puppets Gone Wild.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Puppets Gone Wild was great, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I mean we had some that were just so, and
then we did an entire cling on.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Telenovela. It was a soap opera, but everybody was.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Just staying translating cling on.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It was literally yes, yes, we had so many good skits.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Oh, it was great.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
What are we doing today? What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
We're talking about something I've wanted to talk about for Well,
I guess now I have to do this. Welcome to
Pod Meats World. I'm not Danielle Fischel, neither are you.
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Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'm right or strong, and that's Will fordll.

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Speaker 3 (07:19):
Believe it or not, I don't know if any of
you aware of this, but are our third co host?

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Are our sister in love, Danielle Fischel is a little busy,
and so we have been kind of covering for her
because she's lazy and doing ninety two different things and.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
We're we're we're plugging along without her.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
And frankly, what we're doing this week is something I've
wanted to do for quite a while.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Though this might not be the exact episode I was.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Gonna say, why are we doing this the right way?
Because no, we're doing this based on the holiday.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Okay, we're not doing this the right way at all,
but you know, we've had a lot of fun doing
our well what started with some TGIF holidayisodes.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
So we started with certain very famous Halloween.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Episodes and then of course when we got into Fresh
Prince of bel Air, we kind of went off the
TGIF track, but we stuck with the Halloween theme and
what comes after Halloween Flag Day yep, so we're doing
all the most fit now of course Thanksgiving, and so
we're going to do some of the most famous Thanksgiving
episodes of all time, or at least Thanksgiving episodes from
some of the most famous shows of all time. That
might be the best way of putting it, because this

(08:25):
show is famous, hugely important in my life. But I
never would have started with season eight, episode ten, but
it is a Thanksgiving episode. Yes, of course we were
talking about the wonderful Mash and as they say, when
the cat's away, the Daniyettes will play. It's a real

(08:46):
make a wish situation for me here on Podmeets World.
As we continue our holiday tour through family sitcoms now
cruising into Thanksgiving and with Danielle off on her whimsical
dancing side mission, I was asked if there are any
holiday TV themed episodes that I want to explore, and
the answer was simple. I wanted to do Mash, but
there's not really super famous holiday episodes from MASH, but

(09:08):
there was one, And so we're actually gonna bring an
episode of Mash to Pod meets World?

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Are you excited about this? Had you seen Mash?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Ever? I didn't. I yes, I had tried to. Like,
I just remember going to my grandmother's house and Mash
being right at times and being very confused. Okay, he
was like it's a war show, and the opening credits
always made it seem like like important things were gonna

(09:36):
be happening, like it was a drama show. Like I
was like, yo, is this kind of like Chips or
other shows where they have like, you know, people in
helicopters and motorcycles. And then I just remember being like,
oh there's a laugh track. Yeah, but there's is clearly
not shot in a studio. It is actually some of it,
I guess, right. I am just I was always confused

(09:56):
and I but I watching this, I was like, oh,
actually I know some of these faces and these voices,
like these people do. I mean, I always knew who
Alan Aldo was because I've seen him in other things obviously,
so I always knew who he was. But yeah, I
realized while I was watching this and I must have
watched more than you know, probably five episodes in my
early childhood. But I just I've absorbed these people. I've

(10:18):
absorbed some of these characters. They're like deep in me
and like the name sound familiar. But no, I don't
think I've consciously watched an episode of MASH until this one.
And I must say no, less confused.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, well, yeah, of course, still very baffled by this show.
You're also missing some of the most famous characters in
all of MASH. So starting starting this late, Radars not
on the show, Clingers no longer cross dressing, Frank Burns
isn't on the show, Trappers not on the show.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Colonel Blake isn't on the show. I mean the later episodes.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
It's a essentially an entirely different The only cast members
that started and ended the SHO show are and again
some of them became more famous as they went on,
but became more popular in the show as they went on.
But Alan Alda obviously as Hawkeye, was there from beginning
to end. Loretta Switt as hot lipschoola hand was there
from beginning to end. Father Mokahey was there but really

(11:18):
was barely in the episodes and it was a different
actor who played the part in the pilot.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh interesting, and Clinger was the tipanga of the show.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Clinger was supposed to be a one off in one
episode and ended up on all eleven seasons of the show,
but not in every episode at.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Least till the eleven seasons.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Eleven seasons of the show, And so that's what we
can get into for those of you who don't know.
Mash was one of the most popular TV shows of
all time, premiering in nineteen seventy two on CBS and
airing for yes eleven seasons, closing with a final episode
that drew over one hundred million viewers. It's the highest
rated television episode of all time at first in nineteen
seventy a film by Robert Altman came out of the

(11:55):
same name, but that was based on a book called
Mash by Richard T. Hooker, and it follows the doc
and staff of the four to ozh Double seven Mobile
Army Surgical Hospital during the Korean War. It weaved in
between sharp comedy and emotional drama as they dealt with
the horrors of war through humor, compassion, and camaraderie. And
by the way, you can all watch all the episodes
of mash on Hulu. You should, including the one that
we'll be watching today. As I said, season eight, episode ten,

(12:18):
they Yallow Brick Road, chosen by producer Tara for the holiday.
I will blame her if you don't like the show.
I would have picked something different, but again, it wouldn't
have been on theme, So I get where we're going.
It first aired November nineteenth, nineteen seventy nine, just in
time for Thanksgiving, and it scored a rating of twenty
two million viewers.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Wow, could you imagine that? Now?

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Dancing with the Stars arguably the biggest pop show of
the year, pop culture show that we've had non TV
at all seven million viewers, and they're ecstatic with seven
million viewers. So first, let's get into the synopsis of
the episode. Hawkeye and Bjay get lost in enemy territory
while Clinger's Thanksgiving turkey sickens most of the camp with salmonella.

(12:58):
It was directed by Charles M. Dubin, a wildly prolific
director who, by the way, I just want to couch
this by saying, unfortunately, ninety percent of the cast I'm
going to talk about and the directors everybody else. Most
of these people are gone now because we're doing the
show from nineteen seventy two. So if I keep saying
they passed in, they passed in, it's because it's an
old show. So he was a wildly prolific director who

(13:20):
has every show from the sixties and seventies on his resume.
He did forty four episodes of Mash and is also
known for his work on Kojak, Hawaii, f I O,
and Sanford and Son, and most interestingly, Dubin was subpoened
and appeared before the House Committee on Unamerican Activities in
nineteen fifty eight. He vehemently denied being a communist, but
refused to say if he had ever been one, getting

(13:40):
him blacklisted twice in the nineteen fifties by McCarthy and
his committee.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
He passed away in twenty eleven.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
At the age of ninety two. It was written by
Mike Farrell, who is best known as one of the
actors on the show. He played Captain B. J. Honeycutt,
and this is one of four scripts that bear his name.
One was nominated for an Emmy. He was also nominated
for Best Supporting Actor for the show as well. Also
appeared on Desperate Housewives.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Matt Locke and his honeycut in this episode, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
He's the one. It's sitting next to Alan Aldo the
whole time. That's bj. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
So originally, for a little backstory, when the show started,
which was based on the book it is Hawkeye and
Trapper John McIntyre are the two guys that are best friends.
Colonel Blake is the commanding officer and in the same
episode which is arguably one of the most famous episodes
of television of all time, called ABC and Ya Henry,
which was the last episode of season three, McClean Stevenson,

(14:31):
who played Henry Blake was getting it's now become public
knowledge as the.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Show is getting more popular.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
He was getting eleven hundred dollars an episode to play
the role. He was then offered a million dollars by
NBC in the seventies to come over and take over
like it was like a Tonight Show with Johnny Carson
type of thing. He was a huge comedian at the time,
a huge writer at the time, and he was going
through a very bad divorce.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
So he's like, I have to go. He went to Matt.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
The people at MASH were pissed that he was leaving,
and without his knowledge, they wrote the entire episode where
he leaves and they see him go away in a chopper.
As they see him go away in a chopper, they
then call the rest of the cast together and hand
them another scene. And the other scene they hand them
is they walk in and say his plane was shot
down and he died on the way home. Oh my god,
So they kill off the character. It was one of

(15:25):
the most famous things in television history.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
If they could never bring him back.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Correct, they were mad at him. He was then mad
about that. It was a big famous thing in telegon history.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Show didn't it did not?

Speaker 1 (15:37):
And he has had did interviews afterwards saying, you know,
had we known what was going to happen with Mash,
obviously I would have stayed.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
But He's like, I flat out needed the money. I
mean I just I needed the money.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
But what some people that One of the things that
that overshadowed is that Wayne Rodgers, who played Trapper John
left in the same episode. He got into a contract
dispute with Mash. He was famous for making a ridiculous
amount of money, so not on the show, but he
would all he asked for in his contract was I

(16:07):
want a telephone in my dressing room. I want a
telephone on the set. And he would sit there and
buy and sell real estate all day long on the
set of Mash made a ton of money and then
what he did is he turned it into this giant
business where he then helped actors invest money in Hollywood.
And I think when he finally passed away, it passed
away a very very wealthy man. But people forget that

(16:31):
these two main characters of the show both left the
same episode. So yeah, so Mike Ferrell comes in in
season four, he does season four through season eleven. They
then switch Wayne Rodgers' character for bj Honeycutt, and actually
Mash did that better than almost anybody is switching out characters.
So Colonel Blake becomes Colonel Potter, who's played by Henry Morgan,

(16:53):
Wayne Rodgers, Leaves and Honeycutt comes in, and then season
five Frank Burns, Leaves and Winchester come in. So they're
constantly adding new characters and they pretty much do it seamlessly.
It's pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
And they didn't replace actors except for.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
The priest in just what in the first episode a
different priest played played Moultation.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Meets World with the Morgan as a completely different act.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
They did not, thankfully. But let's get into the cast.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
So, as writers said, Alan Alda plays Captain Benjamin Franklin
Hawkeye Pierce. Alda is one of TV's greatest actors of
all time. He won two Emmys for this role and
starred in movies like Crimes and Misdemeters, Flirting with Disaster,
and The Aviator, which scored him his first Oscar nomination.
And you might also recognize him from The West Wing
and Ray Donovan. Harry Morgan, as I said, played Colonel

(17:41):
Sherman T. Potter, a movie regular of the forties, fifties,
and sixties. Morgan was in Inherit, The Wind, State Fair,
and High Noon and also played Officer Bill Gannon on Dragnet.
He had a reoccurring role on Third Rock from the
Sun and passed away in twenty eleven. Fun little easter
egg is that Harry Morgan was in State. There's an
entire episode of Mash where they're trying to get this

(18:03):
movie that they hear was banned in Boston for sexual content,
and they finally threw a weird series of events. Think
they get it, but somebody switched to print and when
they put it on State Fair, pops on the screen.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
So a fun little thing for Harry Morgan.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I've seen High Noon and all the things you've mentioned.
I've seen henun fantastic film.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Highly it's great you you never watched the original Dragnet
with ever seen.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Episodes of that? Yeah, he was great.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
He was also reprised the role in a funny way
in the Tom Hanks version of Dragnet with Tom Hanks
and Dan Aykroyd.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Which was actually very funny as well.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Loretta Switt as Major Margaret hot Lips Hulahan. She was
nominated for an Emmy in each season of Mash and
won two.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, she was nominated eleven times.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
She also appeared on Cagne and Lacey, Gunsmoke, and all
the game shows of that era. She just passed away
unfortunately this past May, at the age of eighty seven.
Another fun fact, she went on Cagney and Lacey as
a guest star, but they wanted her to play one
of the roles and MASH would not let her out
of her contract. David Ogden Stiers as Major Charles Winchester,
a recipient of two Emmy nominations for the show. David

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also appeared on Perry Mason and voiced a bunch of
Disney characters, including Cogsworth and Beauty and the Beast and
Doctor Juma, jukeabal In Lelo and Stitch. David also passed
away in twenty eighteen. And I think we talked about
this on the pod, but if Bill Daniels did leave
Boy Mets World after the pilot, David Ogden Stiers was
set to step in to play mister Feenie.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Wow, yep, Jamie Farr. Isn't that amazing, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Jamie Farr is Corporal Maxwell Q. Klinger, another legendary TV
actor who was unknown when first cast on mash He
became very synonymous with this role and was also Emmy nominated.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Then we get into our guest stars.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Sun tech O, who was a very famous actor back
in the day, played Ralph. He's best known as the
voice of Fazou in Disney's Mulan and was a veteran
actor from shows like Airwolf, Charlie's Angels, and mcgeiver. He
also passed away in twenty eighteen. Look gona have a
lot of people gone. It's going to be a very
small reunion.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
For this episode. GW. Bailey as Sergeant Luther Rizzo.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Bailey will always be known as Lieutenant Harris and the
Police Academy movies and another a whole cop in the
movie Mannequin. And then we've got Byron Chung as North
Korean Patrol Leader. Our listeners may recognize him as sons
father and Jin's father in law Slash Boss on Lost
Awesome role. And then you've got Bob Okazaki as Farmer
Fred the Sushi Master and Blade Runner, and Roy Goldman

(20:25):
as the Corman. He was a stand in on the
show Who Got Credit Here. You see that a lot
on Boy Me's World as well. He was also the
stand in for mel Brooks on movies like Spaceballs and
To Be or Not to Be, And almost to a person,
everybody on the cast of Mash said he was the
funniest person they'd ever met in his life. The problem
was he had horrible stage fright, so when they kept

(20:46):
giving him roles, he would panic, and so everyone said,
when the cameras are off, the funniest guy you'd ever meet,
you'd call.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Action, and unfortunately he would.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
You don't know anything about that.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't no idea what that's.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Right concept for you?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Strained right?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well, okay, so here's my question. Yeah, because it sounds
like there's like all these contract disputes and like when
the show was such a huge hit. Yeah, was there
a lot of behind the scenes drama? Like it sounds
like besides Alan Alda and Hot Lips Hulah and I
can like her name least, what's her name?

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Hot Lips? Are you talking Loretta sweat.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Loretta like despies the two of them. It seems like
there's a lot of shuffling going on, a lot of
like it's it sounds like it's one of those things
like you have a hit show and then everybody kind
of uses that as a launching pad to do something else.
I don't know, it just was there a lot of
drama behind the scenes?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I mean, yes, there's there's rumor. Let's put it this way,
rumors abound. So there's some people that say, for instance,
uh uh uh, Gary Berghoff who played Radar and Radar
was there for eight, like he left halfway through this season,
halfway through season eight. Uh, there was If you go
back and you watch his last four episodes of the show.

(21:56):
He's on R and R in Tokyo, so he's shooting
in a hotel room or what's supposed to be a
hotel room by himself and then calling in to Clinger and.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Because of set drama he did, and.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
So there's rumors that that was because people didn't want
to work with him or he was difficult to work with.
He's also done interviews since saying he was going through
some personal stuff at the time, really felt it was
time to leave the show, and that's why he left
after eight and a half seasons. All of the actors also,
almost to a person, say that he was the most
talented actor on the show.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Okay, so this episode involves a lot of like stunts
and single camera stuff. You have like, yeah, car crash,
you have motorcycle rides? Is that typical? Like with that
a single Okay? Because I was gonna say, this seems
like a harder job than your average sitcom. Based on
this episode alone, I was like, oh, this is not
as much fun or an easy schedule. Oh no, So there.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Wasn't the producers, by the way, the thing that I
knew you were going to hate. The producers hated as well,
there was a fight. They fought constantly with the network
because they did not want to laugh track.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, I don't like.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
They absolutely and the concess the only concession that the
network was able to make, and you can watch this
throughout the series, is there's no laugh track in any
scene in ther interesting every other scene they throw.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
In a laugh track, but there's no laughing.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
It was audience.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
No. The lafter shot at.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
The ranch right near my house out here in California,
part the outdoor stuff, and then I think they were
on the Paramount lot where they you know, the inside
of the swamp and the oar and some of those places.
So they had their practical sets and then they had
I think two sets. I believe it was Paramount. I
could be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure it was.
So No, this was a very in depth show, a

(23:36):
lot going on, and obviously, like our show, as the
show progressed, you saw more and more things, you know,
more choppers landing and more things that cost money. But
this was at the time a not a popular show.
In the first season, it was almost canceled several times.
And so what you'll notice is the pilot episode they essentially.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Which is just called the pilot.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
The season two episode one is then called Divided We Stand,
and they redid the pilot. They literally just reintroduced all
the characters again because the show wasn't doing well, so
they were burning off episodes during the summer, and then
there was nothing else on during the summer, so people
were starting to find it. And then the president of
CBS's wife became a big fan. He was going to

(24:23):
cancel it. She said, you can't cancel this. They retooled
the show, brought it back, and then it exploded and
became what it did. So that's what's missing in television
nowadays is nothing's allowed to grow anymore.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
And so Mash.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Cheers the Office, all the shows you love, Seinfeld, these
were all shows that were almost canceled and then had
a champion at the network and were brought back.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
So we saw a champion.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yes, well, let me ask you a question again other
than confusion, what did you think about the episode?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's weird, like yeah, I just I can't wrap my head,
or like it doesn't feel like a sitcom. It feels
like kind of its own thing. So I guess the
hardest part for me to wrap my head around was
just that I didn't laugh. It's like, and I don't
know if that's typical. It's what I appreciated wit, I

(25:12):
appreciated language and writing. I appreciated like, but I wasn't
like my biggest reaction would be hmm okay, it's never
like you know, it was always everything is so understated.
Everybody is so smart, Like all the characters are so smart.
Everybody's sort of like, I don't know, it's just a

(25:33):
very different mode than I'm used to. You know, I'm
used to like sitcom being sort of a character driven
thing where people are a little absurd and just bigger
and sort of you know, and especially like having a
laugh track on this doesn't make any sense because it's
lower energy. It's more like banter, you know, it's more
bantery and witty and clever. But it's not that's not

(25:56):
the same thing as like, uh, crazy misunderstanding with like hijinks.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So it was just a different mode, and like that,
I think that's what was confusing to me. It was
hard for me to understand, like what how to get
into the zone of watching this, you know, like I
want to I want to watch more because I did
I appreciate its intelligence. But here's the thing I started
to realize, like you kind of have to bring everything.

(26:23):
You have to bring everything to a level of irony
and understatement when the stakes are this high, like you're
dealing with life or death, you're dealing with a war situation,
and in order to make that okay to be funny,
you have to always sort of the characters have to
always be a little above the dialogue. They have to
always be a little like, you know, like when they're

(26:45):
when they're insulting each other or like, you know whatever,
there's always a level of irony or distance to it
that I don't know. It was just it's an interesting tone,
Like it's a really interesting tone. But I was like, yeah,
but I wouldn't want them to be like real worried
about getting captured by the North, by the Koreans, you
know what I mean? Like I need a level of like, oh,
this has to be a joke about surrendering and like

(27:07):
making little comments to each other like do we put
our arms down? You put your arm like there's a
gun pointed at them? Like whether sitcoms have guns pointed
at each other? Like seriously, I was like, yeah, I
don't know how to make this funny. Like I would
be sitting there as a writer going like, well, there's
no way, and I would my instinct, because I'm a
very earnest person, I would be like, well, we got
to play the reality, we got to be freakd the

(27:27):
f out the whole time, and you can't, you know.
So I'm just not sure that this show is for
me in that way, because, like I the second a
gun enters the frame, or you're like literally lost in
enemy territory, or there's somebody dying on the oar, whatever
I'm sure happens week to week. I'm like, we have
to play this for what it really is, and of
course you can't, because then it's not funny. Then it's

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you know, but you can't.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
So that's why this is why this episode is a
strange one to start with.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
So there's a number of different mashes.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, the episode I would start with, which is I'm
gonna insist we all watch now because you're gonna be like,
oh my god, it's a different television show.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
I mean, it's a completely different television show.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Is a season one episode called Sometimes You Hear the
Bullet and it's the perfect balance of wacky, funny, wow
our I mean there's literally in that season two episode one,
there's a voiceover that comes on that goes like, join
our wacky surgeons every week as they I mean they
literally say that, and so it's the perfect combo of

(28:22):
it's really funny and it also rips your heart out.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
So they did lean into farce sometimes they it's like
over the top.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Oh my god. That the first three seasons of this show,
that's all it is interesting, and then it comes totally
completely changes.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Right because then the other one I've I've heard of
that I've never seen is Hogan's Heroes, which was also
that's like a World War two detention camp comedy. Yes see,
like this kind of stuff. I just I have such
a hard time because I just my brain doesn't go there,
Like I'm not that type of person, like I so
I'm fascinated by it. But yeah, in general, I just
felt a little like low energy sort of like I

(28:57):
can appreciate a sophistication to this, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Not laughing, right, and you'll be laughing hysterically at the
first three seasons.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, Okay, I mean really it was.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Way more sitcom and That's what some of the actors
had a problem with. They're like, we're in the middle
of a war, we've got a you know, Hawkeye was
a total womanizer, but in real life Alan also was
very much part of the feminist movement. So when he
started to get more creative control, the episode started to
be more about women's empowerment.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Like the show just changed.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
So everybody talks about the different mashes, and people that
are big Mash enthusiasts will be like, I'm a season
one through three purist, which is what I am. I
love seasons one through three, four and five. The transition
seasons are great, and Winchester, who comes in is a
phenomenal actor.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
But I preferred the early mash. It got very by eleven.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
It's like it's so soapy that it's really heavy interesting.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
The final episode is.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I like the way that the bast story did deal
with sort of feminist themes. In this one. I thought
it was clever because it's like the character driven makes sense, funny,
the guy gets his come up and so he's you know,
not the a story. I'm just not sure what the
tension was like between the two of them, other than
him being like a bad driver who gets them lost.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Right, they're just best friends.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
They're just best friends. Right. So again, like, even though
you have these incredibly high stakes, I wasn't sure, like
what's what's the point of Like what are we learning about?
I don't know, Like I was just kind of like,
all right, we're just going from one situation to another
to another. It wasn't as character driven right to the
same extent. I was like, Eh, but you know, I'm
I'm being you know, you know me, I'm.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
No, But that's what that's what it should be.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
And again, this is absolutely the wrong episode to start with,
but we're doing it because it's a Thanksgiving episode go
back and why, And we're gonna do this for Podmets World.
We're gonna have to. We're gonna do a season one
episode and you're gonna be like the it's the equal
It's not even the equivalent of season one Boy Meets
World and season seven Boy Meets World. It's the equivalent
of season one Boy Meets World and season three step

(30:46):
by step, like it's a different show. It's just it's
season one Boy Meets World and season four er right,
Like it's just it's too completely different.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Stright, So where do you put this in the in
the pantheon of.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
These are not my favorite episod the later series. The
later episodes are not my favorite episodes. I usually get
to about season seven and I start over tapping out, yeah, yeah,
I start, I go back, I go back and start out.
I know them all from I didn't you know I'm
watching this again. I was like eleven thirty last time.
I'm like, why am I watching this? I know every
line of this. I don't need to see this again.

(31:19):
But let's get into the recap of the show for
the people who haven't seen it, who are now like,
please stop talking about mashup. Well, we still got a
lot more to go. So the opening credits. Everyone's aware

(31:39):
of the song, right, it's iconic. There is a full
version of the song with pretty shocking lyrics.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Honestly, have you heard the full version?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Writer?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Now?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, it's called Suicide is Painless is the name of
the song, and the suicide is Painless. It brings on
many changes and I can take it or leave it
if I please. Also a funny thing to know it
was a kid of I think one of the producers
or one of the network executives who wrote this song.
He apparently wrote it in like a day or two
and has made more money on mash than anyone else

(32:08):
involved with the show. Wow is not crazy. He was
like seventeen when he wrote it, or if he was
even that old when he wrote the song. So we
start in the medical tent. Another ill soldiers carried in
to see the doctor. It's Sergeant Rizzo, hunched over and moaning.
He asked Colonel Potter if he knows the feeling of
a weekend where you.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Just drink cheap booze and eat chili dogs. I wish
I felt that good.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
And this is when the laugh track kicks in, cause
again we're in the post stop. We're not in oar
you can laugh and postop you can't laugh at nor.
Potter assures him he'll help with his stomach pains, but
Rizzo wants the truth.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Is it Raby's was a bit by a rat?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Potter shakes his head. No, we just received the lab reports.
It looks like salmonilla. And then you get your first
real sitcom joke, salmonella.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Who are they? The colonel realizes he's sicker than he thought.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Then Father mul kay, he walks in to see an
overwhelming amount of ill soldiers filling out the tent. He
can't believe Thanksgiving filled with so many casualties, but the
colonel explains that these are their own soldiers, and Potter
has figured out the issue.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
He asked the.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Soldiers, is there anyone here who did not have some
of the turkey last night? All the soldiers grown in pain,
but Mulkayhey, looking fresh as a daisy, raises his hand.
Potter announces that the men were bitten by the bird
that fed him. Rizzo ask Clinger poisoned us with his
Thanksgiving I'm sorry, I'll stop doing my Blake Clark impression
his Thanksgiving surprise. The colonel nods and Rizzos starts to fume.
Now I hope I live just so I can kill Clinger.

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Fatherm okay. He admits, this is the first time I'm
giving thanks for missing Thanksgiving. The father offers his help
and Potter tells him to go pick a patient, any
patient then, none other than Corporal Klinger himself. And this
is again this is Clinger in military uniform, which has
only been a season and a half. Because Clinger was
dressing to get out of the army.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
So he's a dress troublemaker, he's an outsider, he's the
sort of mischief maker of the show.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yes, but it was really just he's he's vying for
he hates war, he doesn't want to. He has this
great speech one time, which is funny though back in
the day, where he's like, I don't want to get killed, obviously,
but I also don't want to kill anybody.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Nobody's gonna tell me I have to.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I'm getting out, So he just wants to section eight
and it gets you know, he's just in dresses the
whole time, just trying to get out, and it's parts
of it are very funny. Again, I am I'm not
gonna couch any of this by saying all of this
age as well, some of it doesn't. It's a show
from the seventies. You gotta just know that it's a
show from the seventies. Can't apologize for everything.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
But I feel like a lot of this storyline is
just all that Clinger. This is like he's kind of
the one who instigates situations that then screws everybody.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yes, Okay, Clinger was in the first few seasons. He'd
pop up every once in a while. He wasn't in
every episode, so it wasn't until later that he started
to really get into the episodes and became again like Topanga,
same same kind of vibe. So none other than Corporal
Clinger comes bounding in with a smile, but is greeted
with a handful of angry groans. One of them yells
out Assassin. Clinger has no idea what he did wrong,

(34:54):
So Rizzo and Potter break the news your turkeys gave everybody.
The trots swears that this is the first class birds
from Sergeant Thermopolis at i Coore quarter Master, but Rizzo
calls them war surplus Cleaner doesn't budge it couldn't have
been as birds because he and Potter ate them too.
The colonel asked if he's reached out to the doctors yet.
Klinger says he's missed Major's Hulahan and Winchester, but they

(35:16):
should be here in an hour or so, and he
contacted Captain's Pearson Honeycutt at the a can Song, Mettalion aid,
and it'll.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Be three or four hours before they get there.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Potter begins to walk away, then decides he has one
more thing to say to Clinger for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
We eat out.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Then we're in the middle of nowhere, which is actually
I think Woodland Hills in Calabasas in California Malibu State
Park like that.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Whole areaverything that was so distracting from me is like,
I have hiked these trails. I literally have. I've camped
in Korea now where they shoot the opening helicopter sequence. Yeah,
is a famous little valley in Malibu where you can
still camp. It's a group campsite that's amazing, and I've
been there a bunch, so I was like, oh, yeah,
and I've hiked these trails. Geez, I've been on yeah,
so I could never there's no suspension of disbelief, like,

(36:00):
oh yeah, I've literally sat there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Well it was until I think not even the last fire.
I think the fire before it there was a still
a mash setup. Yeah, so you could hike there and
there's tents and all that kind of stuff, and I
think I think most of.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
It was wiped out unfortunately. So we're in the middle
of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Honeycut and Hawkeye come flying down the road in an
army jeep. Hawkeye begs Honeycut to slow down, but he can't.
Clinger told them to hurry. Hawkeye reminds him that it's
only seventy four miles away, but Honeycut admits it maybe
more than that. They're lost. Hawkeye wonders lost, like, where
the hell are we? Honeycut shrugs, well, we're not totally lost.
We're still in Asia. Hawk I thought that this was
a shortcut, Honeycut says it was. Look how fast we

(36:37):
got lost. Hawkeye calls him a nerd and demands they
go back. But then out of nowhere there's an abandoned
jeep that was crushed by a tree in the middle
of the road. Honeycut knew was.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
The nerd term at this point.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
It pretty newage, also.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Weirdly used because like, if you're a nerd, you don't get.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Lost, like we're there nerds. I guess there were nerds
in the fifties.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I can't. Yeah, but isn't a nerd supposed to be
somebody who's like nerdy, like they are pocket protector wearing
like mathematical like.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
That was in the eighties. That became a nerd I
think in the fifties and that was geeche.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Okay, So when you're thinking it was just like an outsider,
what does it mean, Like you're just a nerd.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Like you're like, I think kind of like a like
a see it's a bob, like a bubblehead. I guess
like you're a nerd.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
So I don't used to mean that your brain doesn't
work that well, because I think of a nerd now
as somebody who's like brain is hyper good, right, and
their social skills are really bad. And in this case,
he's using it the exact opposite.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Maybe yeah, because I look at a nerd like I'm
a nerd, like I just want to play d in exactly.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
But you're like really into something and you're really good
at like certain things, but you're nerd like social skills
you're not like quite aware of.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Right right.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
I don't know like that it was such a weird use.
I was like this was still maybe this was still
kind of a newish term like it must have been.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I don't know, but I get it.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
It's also the show' supposed to This is supposed to
be nineteen fifty one, so it's like, I guess it
was used.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I don't know. Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
That's one thing I will say about the show is
I've done a lot of research and watch producers interviews
and stuff like that. They were very important with historical accuracy,
to the point where.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
There was one off arguably.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
The worst named character in the history of television, a
black surgeon in the first season called spear Chucker. Oh
my god, that was the character's name.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Awful, just awful.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
But they got rid of the character, not because the
actor was bad or because they didn't like them, but
because with the more research they did, there were no
black surgeons in Korea.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
So they unfortunately fired this actor. But God, that we
could say goodbye to that name forever was awful. What
did you think, so, honeycut spins out of control and
the car tips over, sending them men flying into the
dirt with all their supplies. Now, what did you think
of the crash with the camera move and like throwing
the helmets?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Did the crash work for you?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Totally? I actually after it happened, I was like, whoa
did they show the crash? And I had to go
back and I was like, no, they didn't. They cheated,
but it was a good cheat, right. I was impressed
all the like, That's what I was like. God. Credit
to the director for like basically taking a really basic
sitcom situation and having to shoot a single camera style
for a lot of it.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Like, ye, yeah, it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
I thought the same thing when I saw it again,
I'm like, Okay, they captured the violence of the accident
by with just the camera move And you can see
if you watch it again, Mike Farrell clearly like they
have him sit up really fast and throw his helmet. Yeah,
so it looks like his helmet is rolling away, but
you can see him like actually throwing it. So yeah,
you gotta go frame by frame, but it's pretty funny. Yeah,

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And so they compose themselves. Hawkeye mentions he may want
to put a sign on his car caution student maniac.
Honeycut insists they can roll the vehicle back over all
by themselves, but Hawkeye isn't so sure. Regardless, the two
try pushing it over and fail toppling the car onto
its roof. Hawkeye says, all right, what are you waiting for?
Get in, which is I think my favorite moment of

(39:50):
the entire episode. Yeah, because you can just see that
it's not going to work. We're back in the medical tent.
Father Mulkayhee is helping Rizzo limp back to his cot.
When Clinger shows up to ask Rizzo how he's doing,
Rizzo turns his attention to the priest instead, asking to
make a confession.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
I murdered someone tomorrow. He stares at Clinger with pure hatred.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Clinger insists he's just trying to help, so Rizzo suggests,
then go die on your own, and then, almost on command,
a dizzy Clinger turns to Potter and says, you may
want to lie down, sir, you're getting blurry. Potter grabs
on a Clinger, who now has a hand over his
mouth to prevent himself from barfing.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Potter admits that this is some poetic justice.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Potter manages to place Clinger under the cot, right next
to Rizzo, who ceremoniously grows to the room clingers.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Got it.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
They all break out into a weak round of applause
at the good news. Colonel Potter is about to celebrate
it's just him and the priest left, but before he
can even finish the sentence, he gags and runs out
of the door himself in a panic.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
We're back in the middle of nowhere without that same personally, Yeah,
nothing happens. Nothing happens in that storyline.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
The whole idea of other than Clinger gets it too.
That's it. Just like, yeah, but you could have just
come back with cut back and he's in bed.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I just wanted to. I once I was like, where
is this going? And then once the you know, hot
lips and are Yeah, once they entered, I was like cool.
But up until then, I was like, there's no conflict
here except just hate and Clinger.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeahs again, he's the wacky Carroll.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Don't love watching people be sick, Like, don't love like
people just to throw up and you hear it all
the groans. I was like, yeah, it's uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Yeah, uh again, I'm gonna be picking a different episode
fore you'd watch.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, we're back in the middle of nowhere with Hawkeye
and Honeycut that are walking through deep brush with supplies
in hand. Honeycut suggests they keep their eyes out and
their earls peeled, right before they spot a North Korean soldier.
Both sides are startled, but the Korean soldier manages to
point his gun at Hawkeye and Honeycut, but then the
man smiles and excitedly says something in Korean.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Honeycut yells not to shoot.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
In response to the Korean soldier quickly drops his gun,
then raises his arms in the air, just as Hawkeye
and Honeycut do the same. Now all three men have
their arms in the air. It's the opposite of a standoff.
The Korean soldier says something else they can't obviously understand him.
Hawkeye whispers to his partner, what's going on here, Beach,
but he doesn't know either. Hawkeye suggests they lower their
arms since the North Korean soldiers seems to be surrendering.

(42:03):
They argue over who should put their arms down first,
until Honeycut suggests, if you put your arms down and
he doesn't shoot, I'll do the same.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
If he does shoot you, I'll put your arms back
up again.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
They eventually put their arms down simultaneously, and once they do,
the North Korean soldier does the same with a.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Smile on his face.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Honeycut jokes that this is a great moment in military history.
They've all captured each other. Hawkeye tells their new friend
that they're not in the capturing department that's on the
third floor by the linens. As the two Americans try
to leave with their supplies, the Korean soldier runs over
to kneel in front of him, arms behind his head
in total surrender. Hawkeye and Honeycutt continue to walk past him,
wishing him the best as the man doesn't stop trying
to surrender. By the way, this is also a perfect

(42:40):
place to point out this same actor has played forty
two different characters on mash Are you serious? Yeah, they
had a very small at the time selection of Asian actor.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Oh, it wasn't even Korean.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
It was just Asian, So Chinese, Chinese, American, Japanese, American,
Korean American.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
You were just a Korean. So is there.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Anywhere where somebody's translated what he says throughout this episode?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I'm sure I would love.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
To see the subtitles, because I was like the whole time,
I was like, why don't they just tell us what
he's saying? It'd be so cool.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah, it would be interesting to see what he's actually saying.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, And I actually think this episode would have been
so much better if the audience was able to see
his subtitles, right, Like, if there was a whole nother
layer to this storyline, Because the storyline is so clearly
from the point of view of the Americans, and it's
just like, oh, we have no idea what the crazy
foreigner is saying, right, And it's like, well, from his

(43:35):
point of view, it's the same thing, right, Like, what
are these crazy I'm trying to surrender and they're not
listening to me and they're not realizing that I want
to desert my army. Like that's a great point of
view too, And I would love if, like, you know,
the show had leaned into that, because I feel like nowadays,
that's what you would do, right, if you had this storyline,
you would have equivalent perspectives, and you would give him

(43:57):
that and the audience access to that with some subt
and it would be great. As it is. He's a caricature,
you know, he.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Was just yeah, I mean, and again, that was very
common back in the day. Obviously, they do do one episode.
I want to say, it's in season seven.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Call So.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
One of the tropes that they use on the show
all the time is dear Blank is the name of.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
The episode, So dear Dad.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
We're big ones in the first season where it's you
hear Hawkeye's voiceover and he's kind of explaining things and
he's writing a letter to his dad, and then they
expand on that where they do you know, Dear Mildred
where colonel the colonel's writing his wife, and one of
them they do is called Dear Comrade, and it's actually
a spy comes into the camp and is pretending to

(44:39):
be the houseboy for Winchester and cleaning up the thing.
But it's all from his point of view, and he's
doing the voiceover writing back to the communist leaders in
China talking about what's going on at the four oh
seven seven in so it's an interesting one that's done
all from his point of view. By the way, they
do some things in these television shows, especially the later

(45:00):
ones in this season as well, that you as a
filmmaker and as a television mostly as a filmmaker, but
as somebody who loves breaking ground and things that have
never been done before are really amazing, Like they do
one episode called point of View, where the entire episode
is just the camera walking around and it's a point
of view of an injured soldier being brought to the

(45:22):
four oh seven seven, So you just see the arm
and he's on the chopper and then they land and
then it's all the characters coming and talking to him.
They do another one that was written by Alan Alda
and the medical advisor from the show, Walter Dishell, together
where a soldier comes in with a very specific injury
to his heart and they have a certain amount of

(45:42):
time to fix him or he's going to be paralyzed,
and a clock actually appears on the bottom of the
screen and you're like following the clock to see if
they get this.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Aorda put back in in time.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
So they're doing things to break ground for TV that
are actually pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
But okay, we're now back at base camp.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Major hot Lips Hulahan and Major Winchester arrived back at
the camp.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Woman has entered the show.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I was like, what a crazy set.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
All dudes all the time. Dude, it's war in the fifties.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
How I just could not believe. I was like, wow,
I mean, so she must have been the only female
on the set on a pretty regular basis. Is she
the only female regular?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
No female regular?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yes, but they have there's nurses in every episode, and
and they do a lot of especially in these later episodes,
they do a lot of episodes based on the nurses.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
And I think the year she won her Emmy.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
There's an episode just called The Nurses where she gives
a speech and breaks down crying, which is still people
still talk about it for one of the best television
moments of all time. She does this gas being like racking,
sob that is just it's phenomenal. So yeah, she's but yes,
only female regular on the show. And again they had
to work you in because they would often in the wars,

(46:57):
you know, the second they'd get wind that the the
he's advancing, the women were shipped out.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
The nurses were there, but they were shipped out immediately.
So yeah, but she's here, She's here, Hula hand and
are possible, mister Feenie.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Major Winchester arrived back at the camp to help, and
Colonel Potter's obviously very happy to see him, but Major
Winchester can't help notice how awful the camp looks, and
Potter looks.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
He quips, I'm glad you noticed.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I'd hate to feel this rotten, and have to hate
to feel this rotten and have it just be my
little secret. He reveals that the entire camp has salmonila
thanks to Klinger's turkeys. He can hardly say a word
without puking.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Rider's favorite.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Major Hulahan commands the colonel to get some rest, and
he responds, don't get your irish up with me, but
Major Winchester backs her up. However, he'd like to freshen
up a bit before he attends to the ill soldiers.
Potter moxham, I'll have room service send over a nice again,
burping turkey sandwich, close to barfing again, he asks, you
want to move it now or you want to move
it later.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
With that, Winchester and Hulahan move quickly into the medical tent.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
And yes, even by this point, I was like, I
don't need them all about constantly on the verge of
throwing up.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Yeah, it gets much, It gets much, as I would
like to say. But we're back in the medical tent.
Father okay. He is still running around trying to attend
the soldiers.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Clinger appears at the door with a bucket in his hand,
ready to help, but immediately a bedpan is thrown and
just merely misses his face.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Father m'kay.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
He takes that as a no, but Clinger insists if
he's needed, he'll just be under his bed.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Then Major Hulhan and Winchester enter the room. The priest
is relieved the Marines have landed.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Hulahan realizes there's a lot in his played here, but
the father doesn't mind. He admits he's never felt more
useful or needed, which was another trope they went to
A lot was a priest in wartime. They do a
lot of episodes based around him later, where he's like,
all I do is walk around watching people break commandments
all the time, and nobody's coming to my I just
am not useful at all, and it's very, very interesting.

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He exits the room with some dirty sheets. As Winchester
surveys the room himself. He announces that all the patients
really need at this point is rest and attention, in
other words, nursing. So he's just going to take a
quick shower and nap. But Major Hulahan and shouts one
step more out that door buster, and you'll.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Need a doctor.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
She commands him to start with cleaning the linens, but
Winchester thinks she must be kidding. She counters, Okay, then
start with the bedpans and work your way up. He's
offended washing clean. I'm a doctor, not a woman. Show
That takes place show shot in the seventies that takes
place in the fifties.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
And isn't that like a reframing of the classic Star
Trek line. Damn it, Jim, I'm a.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Doctor and I'm a doctor now. I didn't even think
about that. I'm a doctor here right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Oh yeah, sixteen I wonder because I was I was like, oh,
that's a call back to that in some ways. And
this is where I was like, there's a story all right, conflict,
Like that's what I mean, Like the previous scene with Clinger,
Like they could have folded into this, like they could
have just had Clinger getting sick and everybody being happy
about it. But now we finally have like two characters
with conflict. And I was like, oh cool, I'm going

(49:50):
to get to see these two go at it and
you know, it's great and it gets better.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Uh but yeah, we oh god, get wait for you
to see the earlier episodes.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
We're now in the middle of Nowhere again.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Hawkeye and Honeycut are still trudging through a dirt pass
and the North Korean soldiers following close behind them. Hawkeye
calls the soldier Ralph, and Honeycut questions the name. Hawkeye
explains Kathy Harris's kid brother. Whenever we wanted to go
for a walk or the movies, there was little Ralphie
tagging along. Honeycutt wonders if they give him a quarter,
will he go home, and then Hawkeye remembers, though I
still owe that little band at three hundred dollars and

(50:20):
twenty five cents. Honeycut spots a small area with brush
coverage and decides they could use a little break. Hawkeye
sarcastically notes, we're gonna sit now, beach. Try not to
get lost on the way down. Honeycut assures him he'll
get them out. Once the men sit, the North Korean
soldier follows suit. Hawkeye decides it's time to try out
his roadmap. He uses a stick to draw their location
in the dirt and explains that they'd like to go

(50:41):
from here to the mash four oh seven seventh. The
soldier appears to know how. He gets up proudly holding
his gun, but the guys quickly realize he has no
idea where they are. But then the soldier aggressively points
their guns in their faces and shouts to them. The
guys are obviously startled. Hawkeye tells Honeycutt to give him
a quarter. The soldier forces them to stand up, but
the gun still pointed at them. Then we see four

(51:01):
other armed North Korean soldiers walking their way. Hawkeye whispers
to Honeycut, remember only your name, rank and serial number,
and if they ask nicely, MacArthur's home address. Ralph angrily
shushes them before speaking to his fellow soldiers. The guys
joke nice day, huh, how about those dodgers, which prompts
the Koreans to point their loaded guns at the two
Americans actually cocking the guns. They are literally now standing

(51:22):
in front of a fiery line, but Ralph jumps in
and stops them. The other soldiers reluctantly lower their guns
as Ralph quietly speaks to them, ending with a smile
on his face. Honeycut and Hawkeye watch their fates unravel
right before them. Finally, Ralph makes the other soldiers laugh
and they decide to leave him with the Americans. Ralph
watches his fellow soldiers leave, then points his gun back
at Hawkeye and Honeycut, threatening them in Korean, but once

(51:45):
he notices his buddies are gone, he gives them one
of the funniest double winks in television history. Ralph just
saved their butts. Once Hawkey announces that the Bowery boys
are out of sight, Ralph surrenders again and they both
run over and completely embrace him, which was a great turn.
We're now back at base camp. Father m'kay. He is
gleefully singing to himself as he washes the soldier's linens

(52:07):
with Major Winchester. Winchester is, of course less than pleased
with the chore, sweat coating his face while ringing a
sheet dry. The priest exclaims there's nothing better than feeling needed.
Then hot Lip storms in criticizing Major Winchester for his
battleship gray sheets.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
They need to be stark white. The Major absolutely loses it.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
His hands are prune from slaving over the cesspool all day.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Father m'kay he is displeased talking about prunes at a
time like this.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
The Major declares that he abdicates his tub and washboard.
Major Hulihan points out a stack of bedpans with his
name on him instead.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Winchester, let's laugh. This is great, Winchester, let's out a laugh.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I'd sooner do the Lindy with Eleanor Roosevelt Hulahan counts
him in oh one and two. Father, m'kay. He tries
to play peacekeeper, but they're not having it. Instead, Winchester declares,
I'm trying to remember that you're a woman and a
fellow officer.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
She screams back, don't patronize me, skinhead.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
He responds with eurn not in charge here, bimbo, and
it's just crazy. Before things even get more heated, father
and okay, he finally intervenes, we just can't afford to
act like nincompoops.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Great use in nincompoop. We need to bring that back.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
There are sick people here, and the three of us
are all that they have. The majors pull it together
and manage to apologize to one another, who hand earnestly
asks what'll it be?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Sheets are bedpans.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Winchester pauses for a moment, then sings, father, okayes.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Whereabout to wash her sheets? Wash her sheets?

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Wash her sheets?

Speaker 3 (53:30):
What did you think? What do you think of that scene?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
It's good because there's conflict, character based conflict. I wish
that they had set up like the priest a little
bit more as like, you know, an easy fix for
me would have been like if in the earlier scenes
he had tried to intervene to like make people get
along in the with a Clinger situation and couldn't, But
in this instance, he was you know, because it was
I just wanted everybody to sort of there's a rewrite

(53:52):
in there. But yeah, but no, this is where I
was like, great, there's fireworks because even in the other storyline,
like I am, I'm having a hard time seeing the
difference in character between Hawkeye and BJ I'm like, yeah,
but these are both kind of similar dudes, white dudes
with similar like ironic vibes, and like, I don't know,
I just wanted, like, I want to know.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
That's literally one of the reasons that the network asked
Mike Ferrell to.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Grow a mustache, just so they could tell them apart.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
So they can tell them apart.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yeah, and that's a you know, I just you could
tell that they were just into like a vibe of
a certain type. But it's like, but you know, this
is a great opportunity, like and they're trying to make
it like you got us lost, But I was like,
but they're kind of the same guy. Like, and so
anytime that there's like this where I see different types
of people going at it, I'm like, great, that's that's conflict.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
And earlier the characters were very different when when BJ
first got there, because he's supposed to be fresh out
of residency. He's he's married with a new baby, and
he's like very he still likes to drink and have fun.
But where Hawkeye is the lothario and is out there
womanizing all the time, BJ is very you know, he's

(54:56):
also very loyal to his wife, so that was a
different character thing. But they the network came to them
after a season or two and just said, you guys
even look too much alike it.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Can you grow mustag But that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I think that like when I said banter, you know,
like the banter is the priority. It's sort of like,
you know, it's the wit of the dialogue that's more
important than the actual like revelation of character. Yeah, everybody's
sort of above it.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
And you know, yeah, I'm gonna be when we watch
the next episode, which I'm gonna pick, You're literally gonna
start by going, it's a completely different television, Joe.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
It's a completely different television, Joe. So we're back in
the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Hawkeye Honeycutt and now Ralph have continued their quest towards
the mash four or seven seventh when they stumble upon
a Korean man in trouble. He's buried beneath a hay cart.
They run to his aid and managed to lift it
off of him. Honeycut attends to the man's wounds. Hawkeye complains,
just our luck, foreigner. Honeycut offers a new rule from
now on, no invading the country if you don't speak
the language. The injured man tries to tell them something,

(56:06):
but they obviously can't understand them. Instead, Hawkeye introduces the
trio to the pedestrian, joking that he probably knows honeycut
from driving school. Honeycutt asks the man's name, and he
and Ralph both respond in Korean.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Hawkeye admits, that's a lot to remember. How about we
just call you Fred for short.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Honeycutt finishes wrapping the man's foot, and when he tries
to stand up, he shrieks in pain. They realize they
have to get him home, which shouldn't be too far right.
Honeycutt wonders how they'll get him there, and Hawkeye decides
he'll be carried by all of those.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Who got us lost and walking. Honeycut bends down to
piggyback the man, admitting his mother always told him never
to pick up strangers. And we're now back at base camp.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Major Hulhan is continuing with her chores when she walks
by Major Winchester's room his tent and notices that he's sleeping.
She tears down the screen and screams his name at
the top for lung. Startled, he falls off the bed
in terror. She continues, did you just see what I
did to that tent?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Next? It's gonna happen to you.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
He tries to reason with her, but she insists if
you're not hard at it in three second so you're
gonna drown in rice gruel. He swears it was just
a mistake. He was making the bed with nice clean
sheets and then slipped. She starts to count three two.
He shouts, I'm working. I'm looking for sick people. He
peers under the bed. Anyone under here need a doctor?
She loses it again. How dare you sleep while this

(57:16):
whole camp is in bed? She storms out of his room,
buckets of rice gruel in hand. We are now back
in the middle of nowhere. The men finally arrive at
fred Shack and are greeted by a woman who they
assume is Missus Fred. They move chickens and set the
man down in a shed. Missus Fred and Ralph reveal
a dusty motorcycle for the men to use. Honeycut boasts
that he led them straight to honest Fred's use motorcycle

(57:38):
a lot, but Hawkeye doesn't understand how they're going to
drive that thing. Well, Honeycutt has another trick up his sleeve.
Apparently he's Mill Valley's finest surviving motorcycle rider. He assures
them that they've got no problem. Then he checks the motorcycle.
We've got one problem. But his fate would have it well,
Fred hans Hawkeye a big old Canna gasoline.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
By the way, Mike Farrell must actually be a.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Motorcycle rider in real life, or was at the time,
because there's three separate storylines where he finds a motorcycle.
There's this one, there's another one where he gets one
and then it's trashed by a visiting journalist, and then
the last episode he literally rides off on a motorcycle
with his San Francisco placard on the front.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
So Mill Valley is Mill Valley, California.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
That's where he's from. Milboury.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
He in one episode he is able for two hundred
dollars to put a down payment on a big plot
of land on Stinson Beach. Oh my god, and he's
running around trying to raise the two hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
I'll be worth like ten million dollars exactly.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
So yeah, so yes, he is from He's from California,
which is a big part of his storyline.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Actually, is he supposed to be kind of like a
beatnick California.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
No, but he's no, not at all.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
But he's like what Winchester who went to Harvard always
looks down at him. He's like, you're a billion surgeon
even though you were bowl and raised and trained in California.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Interest like it's a it's a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah, yeah, but yes he is a he's a San
Francisco boy. So Hawkeye smells the gasoline it has a
visceral reaction to liquid, before handing it over and suggesting
a swig. Hawkeye takes his seat in the ancient looking
sidecar and Honeycutt loads up the gas tank. But just
as the men are about to leave. Ralph blocks their path.
He wants to come along with them. Hawkeye asks would
Bob Hope and Bing Crosby leave without Dorothy Lamore. Honeycutt

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agrees they can't break up the set and tells Ralph
to climb aboard.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
They sput her off all smiles. The medical tent.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Do you know who Dorothy Lamour is?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
She was a She was a film actress, wasn't she.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I don't know. Oh yeah, no, this cowboy, this is
like Michael Jacob's reference. I'm like, oh boy, I'm supposed to.
I mean, I've heard the name bing Crosby. That's about it,
pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
But they yeah, they talk about a lot of fifty stars,
Gene Tierney and all the kind of people like that.
It's yeah, this is this might have been one of
the places that made me go back and find out
who they all were. Was all the mash that I watch,
It's all definitely possible. We're back at the medical tent now.
Colonel Potter walks in and follow them. Okay, he greets him,
more chipper than ever. The Colonel just shakes his head.
He's indomitable. Next he runs into Major Hulahan. She reminds

(01:00:05):
him he really should be in bed, but he promises
he wouldn't be here if he couldn't handle it. He
asks if there's been any signs of septoicemia or complications
among the other soldiers, and since everything has calmed down,
he suggests she'd take a break while he watches over
the place. Before she goes, though, he wonders where Major
Winchester is. Hulahn says he finished his rounds and now
he's supposed to be putting clean sheets on all the bunks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Even the colonel laughs, he'd like to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Hulahan heads out, and Colonel Potter takes a seat next
to one of the ill soldiers. He gives him a
word of advice. The best way to beat this thing
is to just put it out of your mind. He
wishes he could, but it's kind of like being on
the ocean.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Up and down, up and down.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
And then it gets into his head, and then it
gets into my head and starts spinning around and around.
The colonel starts looking a little queasy as he follows
the man's description. Then both of them start to gag,
and the colonel bends over to move him over. This
is another reoccurring character named Igor who his name's Igor
Straminsky is the name of the character who's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
An actor named Jeff Maxwell.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
And I know Jeff because he hosts he co hosts
with Ryan Patrick the Mash podcast that I went on,
and so he was started as a background actor, and
then as they go on, he's in more and more episodes,
he gets more and more lines. That's one thing Mash
did really well is a bunch of the characters for
the final episode, you actually stand up and give speeches

(01:01:27):
like here's what I'm doing. After the war were background
actors that had been there for ten or eleven years
that they literally started giving storylines too. It's like you've
been here forever, We're going to write an entire episode
about your character, which I thought was is really cool
for an actor.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Yeah, and Jeff's a great guy. Shout out Jeff Maxwell
and Ryan Patrick. By the way. Yeah, go watch Mash
Matters or listen to Mash Matters.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Great podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
We're now back at base camp.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Honeycutt, Hawkeye and Ralph come speeding in on the motorcycle
right where Winchester is hanging the linens to dry. He
realizes are head to write for him, and honeycutt can't
stop it. They end up tearing right through the clean
linens and crashing into some metal cases.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Winchester screams with them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
You brainless twits, Look what you've done to my laundry,
and then he notices the Korean man who's joined them
on the bike, now waving his arms in the air again.
Honeycut responds, shame on, you don't you recognize the international
signal for touchdown. The Major points out the obvious, the
man's a North Korean soldier. Hawkeye quips, right, he's here
to pick up his laundry. Good thing it was ready,
or he'd have to shoot you. And then everyone else

(01:02:26):
comes to greet them. Major Hulhan retrieves the antibiotics well.
Colonel Potter asked what.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Took them so long? Did they stop at the beach?

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Ralph motions to surrender once again, and the colonel simply
asks who's this. They say it's Ralph and go back
to life as normal. Hawkeye begins his spiel, neither rain
nor sleep, nor snow nor broken jeep. Honeycut continues, nor kidnap,
nor surrender, nor dark of lost, and the colonel cuts
them off. The jabbering lamp is out on their way
to post stop. Hawkeye tells Winchester to come along in
case any of the patients need fluff and fold. Ralph

(01:02:54):
continues to surrender, and Honeycut calmly tells him to come
along too. They've come this far. There's no need to
be strangers. Hawkeye adds, there's a whole ward of people
you haven't surrendered to you yet. Ralph jumps up and
down with excitement. Then we're in our tag, which is
in Clinger's room. Clinger desperately fumbls around for a phone,
finally grabbing one to connect to Sparky. Sparky is the
guy who's always on the other end when the other

(01:03:15):
end of that phone when they call, has been for
eleven years. One time you see Sparky and one time only.
He tells them, hook me through to HQ supply and hurry.
It looks like clingers in rough shape. Just as he's
about to speak with sergeants Themopolis, but he's finally connected.
He angrily tells the sergeant, you know that turkey you
sold me stuff it now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
It ends on his face in a gasp. What did
you think that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Meant, oh, I have no idea what. I just was like,
it's just clinger, I have no ied it. I was
literally like at this point, what.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Why No, because there's some people that think I've had
conversations about some people that think themopolis said something that
makes and go, whereas I think he himself and that's
why he's like, hurry up, hurry up, and then he
says stuff it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
And then that men. Then he's like, because.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Oh, yeah, that makes sense. I was literally like, what's
the joke. I don't understand what's happening? Didn't always end
on a freeze frame?

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Yeah, and then the music kicks in and then funny,
oh that you could also you would tell they would
dictate the tone of the show by the way the
show ended. So either it ends like this and a
laugh and it's frozen then then then or it would
freeze and it was a somber note and it would
go they'd slow it down, or it would freeze and

(01:04:35):
there'd be silence, and that's when you knew it was
a big tough episode.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
So the only characters who changed or grew at all, Well,
Winchester cares about laundry. Yeah, cares about laundry. By the end,
I like storyline, right, Okay, anybody else Ralph, Ralph surrenders
gets his goal, which is to surrender and join the Americans.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
It's a romprid, It's a Korean War romp.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
What changed?

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Nothing? Oh god, nothing, I can't. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
When you see sometimes you hear the bullet which again,
first season show, you're going to call me and be like,
this show is brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Why wasn't this like this the whole time?

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
But one of the reasons is one of the reasons
is because.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Think about how few shows in history, literally in television history,
got better the longer they went on. And I used
to argue.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Seasons six seasons, I feel like is where you start
max and out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I used to think Boy Meets World was getting better
as we went on, And now that we're rewatching it,
I don't think that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
No, you just got better.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
No, I just got bigger. That doesn't necessarily mean.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
It's definitely you were getting better progressively as the show
went on.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
But the show itself, think of all the best shows
in history, I mean, Cheers, The.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Office, Friends, Get stayed pretty good all the way through
the end and Seinfeld, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
But again by the time on Friends, when now Rachel
and Joey are dating, You're like, wait, they're together now.
I mean, there's there's some times in the later episodes
of every show I can think of it, and I
would love for our fans to write into Danielle Fischel
to tell her, uh no, seriously, can you to say,
what are some shows that you really believe got better

(01:06:25):
the longer.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
They were on? Now I could argue we got but
then dropped off.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Yeah, I mean, I think the smartest shows are the
ones that that say, we have an end point in mind,
and we're going to pull the plug at a certain point.
Get your so much, yes, exactly, But there's always so
much money on the line, you know. It's like that's
the problem with something like Friends. All those people wanted
to move on in their careers, but it's like, no,
there's just too much to be made here, so they
keep going to the deck.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
They've giveing them a million dollars an episode.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
As much as you hated Boy Mets World, if they
came back to you for a season eight said we'll
give you a million dollars an episode.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
You would have stayed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Probably, Yeah, yeah, of course, it's just it's life changing money.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
I mean, you have to take them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
No, God, no, you're kidding them. I still owe Disney
money for being on that show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Every time they air an episode of I got to
send them ID.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
So, for everybody out there who has never seen an
episode of MASH, if this is your first episode of MASH,
don't judge Mash by this episode is what I would
definitely say. It's a Thanksgiving episode of MASH, which is
why we did it. But don't judge this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Go back and start with the pilot and watch it forward.
That's the way to do MASH. And I promise you
it's going to be a different show than it is here,
much like Dancing with the Stars, which apparently this first
season is very different than the seasons that we have now,
but we wouldn't know because we never saw it. See how,
I brought it right back to Danielle since she's not
here and we're the dan Yettes and it's always got
to end on a Danielle thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
So that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Thank you everybody so much for joining us for this
episode of Podmeats World. As always you could follow us
on what is it? Instagram? I've never done this once.
You can yes follow you follow us on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Which Poppy's World Show.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
That's right at Poppys World Show, and you can email
email us at Poppys Worldshow dot com at no Poppys.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
World Show at gmail dot com. That's what it is.
And also we've got merch. We don't merch. This is
where Danield laughingly goes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Podmeetsworldshow dot com writer send us out, we love you all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Pod dismissed. Podmeets World is an iHeart podcast producer hosted
by Danielle Fischel, Wilfredell and Ryder Strong executive producers Jensen
Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo,
producer and editor, Tarasubach, producer, Maddie Moore engineer and boy
Meets World superman Easton Allen. Our theme song is by

(01:08:49):
Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram at Podmeats
World Show or email us at Podmeats World Show at
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