March 25, 2025 • 48 mins
From Vizago to Imperial Walkers to Pee Wee Herman to the very special appearances of 3PO & R2D2 to Rebels tying into the Skywalker Saga; and did everyone know what Chopper was actually saying? The group discusses this and much more on today's episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't remember you.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
How were those lines written out with RTD two and
Chopper going back and forth like where their act was
actually dialogue?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Vanessa correct me if I'm wrong with Chopper's lines were
never written out.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Yeah, I think it was like beeple boot bop, and
then parenthetically there was something like what he was actually saying.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I need to then give a massive apologies.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Hey everybody, I'm Vanessa Marshall, the voice of Harrison Doula,
and welcome to the Pod of Rebellion.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
We have a few family members here today.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Hi, I'm TSR car Sabine Rind Specter five.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Hey, what's up. I'm Taylor Gray spect six.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
I'm Johnley Brody, not nonspector but moderator for this fine podcast,
and we are obviously still very very dialed in and
organized with our introduction. Hi everybody, how is everybody doing? Great?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Good?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, nice to see you guys.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
I love doing this. I know we're only we're on
episode three, but it's just I got so excited before
recording because I know we get to hang released a
little bit so and this is I like being around friends,
so this is just great for.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Me for us as well.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Yeah, but how is everybody? Everybody's good? I'd like to
do little check ins and I want to check in
with our listeners too, like I always believe in checking
in is important, especially with friends are just in general
and checking in with yourself too. So how is everybody awesome?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
All as well? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, not much too, not much to report, which is good?
Speaker 6 (01:39):
All right? Well on that, I believe while we're here,
we might as well go over an episode of Star
Wars Rebels. I mean right, I mean, wow, we're here, yeah,
I mean we came all this way to Zoe meeting
and computer So Droids and Distress original air date October thirteenth,
twenty fourteen, so crazy, like that was such a long
(02:01):
time ago. We have incredible guest stars on this, incredible
characters that make some guest appearances which we will get
into here. Our recap of Droids and Distress, we get
a sense of what rebel lifestyle entails for the Ghost crew.
Ezra is now fully ingrained into the Ghost family and
more eager than Daniel LaRusso in nineteen eighty four to
get his force training going. We also see that outrunning
(02:23):
the Empire takes its toll, and unfortunately being in the
Rebel alliance isn't a salary position, so we see the
harsh reality of the rebel lifestyle, which can entail running
low and supplies money and even morale. So with their
backs against the wall, the Ghost Crew takes on a
job from the Sketchy Vizago and throughout this journey we
meet some very special folks from the Star Wars universe,
so Being continues to show her Zeno linguistic skills. We
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learn a little bit more about Callus and its tied
to Lossots, which are Zeb's people, which thus then ignites
the fire for what will be their ongoing rivalry. And
as we get to see more of what makes the
Ghost Crew so special, we also get more info as
to how they and the Star Wars Rebels continuity all
tiesing to the Star Wars Skywalker Soca continuity. But a
lot of us know and love. So that is my
(03:07):
quick recap for everybody. What is everybody? What are initial
thoughts after watching this episode?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
By anyway, that was fantastic, so so safe jeez, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
And I love Coret Kaid references. So one of the
things you will hear a lot of Cobraka and Karated
represents throughout that podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, no issues with that. I loved it. It has
both been a long time since we've done that, but
it's also doesn't feel like that it could possibly have
been ten years ago, or actually I guess we would
have recorded it eleven years ago, right, but yeah, I
just I'm I'm it's reminding me like, oh right, right
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when we recorded this one, because it's been such a
long time since I actually saw this thing. It's been
since it aired, So it's a nice little walk down
memory lane, which this whole thing will be I realized,
but we're just getting started, so it still feels fresh
and new to me.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I'm trying to remember when you spoke aqualish? Was that
was that spelled out?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Like, yes, yeah, it was spelled phonetically. This is this
is trying to remember what we did. I cringed hard
when I when I watched that, I was like, oh geez,
he's great, Well, thank you. I will say that I
this was my first time. You know, obviously I do
it much more throughout the series, but this was my
(04:28):
first time having to speak a language that I've never
seen or heard before. And I remember wanting Dave to like,
tell me, how does it sound? You know I talked
before about like being a perfectionist and being a type
A and needing to know like the right way or
wanting to do it correctly, and him, I remember, this
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was like one of the first times that he was like,
you say it how you say it? And I'm like, no,
but that's not if I if I speak all these languages,
I would say. He was kind of like, what you're
you you got this, and I was like, but I
don't got it. I don't know this language. So anyway,
I hope, I hope it makes me cringe less in future.
But this one, thankfully, it was only like a three
(05:12):
or four word sentence, but we got through it.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I thought you'd think great, and I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Yeah, and JC can fact check us on this, but
I believe aqualish is like adjacent to like hot tease
or Rodian language, and you had the cadence down, so
to me, like, that's what I gravitated towards you.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, that was that was completely on purpose, very planned out.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Yeah, of course it was because you're you're awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's fun that we had Suko and Archie. Yeah, going
at it with Chopper. This is the first episode I
hadn't seen because the first episode we saw that. I
feel like a couple of times when they showed just this,
I was like, wait, they were on the show.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
I think that was.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Pretty incredible, And I looked it up.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It says that that Anthony Daniels did it.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, yeah, wait, Taylor, you might not have seen this episode,
but we did record the episode.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, but I'm now blown away my short to memory.
I'm trying to wipe away last week. Honestly, yeah, ten
years ago. Trust me that that is in a capsule
flying off in space somewhere. But sure, I thought it
was so fun that Chopper was going back and forth
with I was like, how were those I don't remember you?
(06:31):
How were those lines written out? With RTD two and
Chopper going back and forth? Like, were there act was
actually dialogue?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
No, I but as to correct me if I'm wrong,
but there was no. Chopper's lines were never written out.
It would just say right then, I.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Said, yeah, I think it was like people boot bop
And then parenthetically there was something like what he was
actually saying exactly? Then That's what I believe, And of
course C three pos lines were.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I need to then give a massive apology. It's not
the mandelific. But I've told everyone at every convention that
I was like, yeah, I was always reading Chopper's lines,
like you don't know what they said, but it was this,
this and this.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I thought they were always written out there.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I believe in English, right, I thought.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
They were written out and then I can check pop
boo boo boo.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, I can check on a script I'll look for
next time. I'll double check. But I recall even if
I believe that there was like chirp, chirp, chirp or
bebop bop or something along those lines, and then parenthetically,
what was inferred, however, you could sort of tell from
like Chopper, like whatever came after the beat bop boo boop,
(07:47):
it was pretty clear that Chopper had said or done
something adversarial or otherwise, and it was indicated as to
what they were saying.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I'm yeah, I think I might have just written out
stuff so that I had a specific thing to real
because I'm like, I know I saw on my script words,
but I think.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It's so interesting to me because I remember no beat
boop ups. I don't remember any beat boot Bop Britain.
Now I feel like I feel like it was words.
But what if we just what if we just sort
of like projected what we Oh my gosh, how.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
We Why don't we see if I can find it
and I've got a grip hold on, let me try
and find it here.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
You're all just a fluent and astromic and it's like
it's just easily like you look at the carrias like, oh,
like that's just what do you remember?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
The reason being is that when the first time we
actually watched an episode and we heard Chopper for the
first time, I was like, oh, that's funny, that's not
what I you know I did. There was a surprise
to me. I don't know. Maybe maybe that's because I'm
not as being.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Wise but not Dave. Dave didn't tell us that he
was Chopper for a while.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, no, he know, Yeah, we know that for a
very long time, which is interesting because everyone else knew
once it came out, but we did.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
And also when you say he didn't tell us for
a long time, I don't recall him ever telling us.
It was just sort of like it came to be
known and we were all like Dave, but.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
At the end we knew because I remember I had
made it a little mission in my head. I was
like at one point, like we're all here, we should
all record together. Like I remember asking him through the
very last two episodes, like just do it with us,
like do one line, because you've never done it with us,
and I don't think he did.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
He didn't, He didn't do it all.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
He never recorded with us there.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I watched the episode with some of my friends as well,
and did you any feedback?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
They yeah, they said, don't let this go a second season. No,
no exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
They were like, hope you don't make it through this. Yikes,
they were. They were really impressed by the music. They're
like who scored this? And I went back and I
was like, it's an I think Ken kind of did
it with like an orchestra, right. It is so good
and you will even think through these episodes like because
I remember it standing out in other episodes in a
big way, and I was like, dang, even in these
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type of Dutchess like beside quests and ways, it stands
out how unique and beautiful the music is. Where I
then just started paying attention to that at times, and
I was really really impressed.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I'm so glad you brought that up because I'm I
feel the exact same way, like I know that like
through season two and then three and then four, like
the music just gets better and better and better and
like this like orchestral amazing sort of like just really
impressive score. But in this episode, episode three, I was.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Like, Shopper, I found it. Sorry, go on, sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
What I was gonna say, I'm so sorry just that
that I remembered that army. It went hard, like right
from the job, like it's so good, it's so impressive.
Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I found it? It was in little there was no
there's no beatop boop. It's just it's in like Circom Grave.
What are the what are those arrows? It says Chopper
found the door.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, I thought it was just right.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh thank god, my apology.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Guys. Yeah, what I've been saying at convention.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I don't know why I remember seeing I must be
confusing different droids, but I thought there was beatop boop
and then found the door anyway, so uh yeah, there's no.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Share that stuff. Like we maybe we can make that
a social clip or maybe we can.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I don't think. I don't think you should be doing that.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
What they've already seen the episode.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
It's not it's not privileged.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, we signed an NDA before it came out, but
if you showed someone the script today, they've already seen
the episode.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I don't think.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
There There's always ways. I've seen other people do it.
We can double check. Obviously, I don't want to speak
out of turn, but I've seen people do the script
the screen stuff, so I feel like maybe that could
be something cool we can do. So we'll look into that.
No promises, but thank you for finding that, because I
was wondering myself because I know on Guardians of the
Galaxy when they do the group lines, obviously all we
hear is Ion group, but they also tell Vin Diesel
(12:22):
what he's actually saying with the Ion group. So I'm
glad to know that there was some sort of translation
for you all to get the context of what cho Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
It was very organic because he was just another member
of the I mean, he is obviously another member of
the crew, but in the dialogue, his dialogue is his
responses and where you know, we're responding to something ridiculous
he said, and we knew exactly what he was saying,
so it wasn't until you know much and Dave never
recorded with us like that, never. Yeah, So like it was,
(12:53):
it was. It was fun to watch it after the fact,
knowing what the intention is behind that particular beep up
boob and what he was actually saying at the time,
or you know.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
What what Chop was saying.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I honestly cannot believe I found that script, So I
forgive me for my outburst interrupting your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
I'd I'd be stoked too if I saw that. So,
like Benu at the top of the show, of this episode,
incredible guest stars, I believe he's night it's Sir Anthony Daniels.
So I'm guessing he wasn't in the booth of you.
I'm guessing he recorded separately in England. He was in England,
which they do. I know what Frank, cause when Frank
ozos Yoda, he's been doing remotely since the prequels, so
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I know that. But also we had the late great
Paul Rubins as a guest voice RX.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Twenty four Wait wait not pee wee.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, he's on this episode. He's X twenty four
in the space. So you have not only Archie D
two in C three PO, which, first of all, it's
hard for me to say three Po not as Mark
hamllon a new help like in the trash Conpactory, I
would have to say it like that. But you have
three PO, RX twenty four, Paul Rubins and our due
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to end Chopper. You got a lot of great droid
action in one scene.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Droid action. I like that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, the droids are so cool and they're such a
fun They're not even a side's that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
They're so like pivotal to Star Wars.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So it was fun that there was a whole thing
centered on them and the antics of like because C
three PO and RG D two are so well known
that Chopper I feel like, kind of stepped in and
sort of bullied them in a certain way. It made
Chopper really come to prominence in my mind where I
was like, oh, yeah, this this droid is like.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Here he was like Chopper was like the series where
I was like, oh, no, I.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Guess exactly, which is so funny. This is my show
and we're guest star.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I felt I don't know about you guys, but like
I felt like kind of got some feels like when
the door goes up and it's them, I of course
had forgotten. I don't remember what each of these. There
are very few episodes just by the name of the
episode that I remember what happens in the episode since
it's been so long, so I didn't remember, you know,
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who is in this episode. And as soon as that
door opened, I got like, I was like, oh, yeah,
I forgot yes, yes, yes. And also I really love
like the beef Chopper like gives no fs and like
like this is this is like the episode where we
the audience get to really get a sense of like
(15:24):
who Chopper is, what his his sass and his like
mischievousness and all of that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, something that stood out to me that was so
funny is I don't know, I haven't seen this before,
how casually they're talking while moving through hyperspace.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
He just blue blue all outside of the ship, and
I'm like, they're just having a regular conversation and not
regular there are stakes to it, but like they're talking
very normally for moving at hyperspace.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
To me, I was laughing so hard at that. I
thought it was incredible.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yeah, because especially in contrast to like Spaceballs, where going
through ludicrous speed, you can't inform a sentence, so really
you all are doing about doing something right there exactly.
And also like to see three PO and R two
D two I believe, and again luckily we had the
great JC to fact check everything. I believe they're the
only two characters to appear in every single one of
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the Skywalker Saga movies. I think, so I know they
for sure have. I don't know if they're the only ones.
But and little fun trivia for everybody for those who
don't know George Lucas. When he wrote A New Hope,
he based it off the Kudasawa movie Hidden Fortress, which
sent it down on the two like, you know, lowliest
characters for lack of a better term, like the unlikely characters,
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which is what A New Hope was. You centered on
three PO and R two D two. So then for
those two to be carrying on through the Skywalker Saga
being in every single one. But then come to your
show on Star Wars Rebels as like the second broadcast episode.
My I remember seeing that in real times, Like, holy
I gotta bleeve myself because a family friendly show. Uh,
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And I just love the dynamic of those two, like
they're two of the greatest duos. It's up there with
like Shaq and Kobe. You know, uh, I have a.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Question for probably Vanessa and John if you know that
it's it? Are how old or are droids ageless? Or
is it from when they were created?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like how old?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I mean JC might know this actually have to do everything,
but like how old would r T D two and
C three PO be or is age not a fact?
Age not a thing for droid?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
But they were created?
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Are they getting creates like like because you know like iPhones, motherboards.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Software, jades and like that might barnware.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Yeah, that might be a j C question.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
All right, let's let's let's put a pin in that
good question.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
That's a great question because I know, like I mean,
the funny thing Anakin built three PO and Phantom menace.
So it's like, are we doing the math of that's
how many years before? Yamen? And would that be it?
You know, I don't Our two has been around for
a minute. I feel like our two has more of
a backstory than three PO as far as I know,
as far as what I've seen. But again, luckily you've
got JC to help us out there.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Well, if we could, if we could translate the beeps
and the boots and the box, we would probably hear
R two being like who is this little whipper snapper
could come in to me like you know, who's like
an old sage old droid and this like Chopper is
this like upstart?
Speaker 6 (18:25):
R two is like you know what I've been through many.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Seriously my story, you know idea, it's.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Like, dude, you don't let me tell you the stuff
that I have seen? Yeah, probably be like you know what, actually,
probably Chopper wouldn't back.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Off, Chop Chopper would have no yeah, no regard.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I had a quick question for you all because I
know how it works on live action episodic with guest casts.
I know it could be tough for guest cast to
come in because you've got to find the ribbon of
the show really really quickly. Is it like that with voiceover?
But essentially you all are kind of in a way
guest cast too, because Star Wars is so huge. So
I was just wondering if at all any kind of
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insight you can give in terms of I don't know,
I don't want to put as like the weight of
that responsibility, but what that dynamic is like in the booth,
because I don't think a lot of people think about
that or know about that.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I think that this question is actually more applicable to
us than probably a lot of other you know, animated series,
which is probably why you asked. But yeah, because you know,
normally it's kind of a non issue, wouldn't you guys say, like,
you go in the booth and you I've worked on
shows where I might record with like the people in
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the people most in the scenes I'm in, and you know,
so maybe there's like one two more people in the
booth with me and we're doing a scene. But because
we recorded every single episode as a cast, as our crew,
I guess it does actually apply here because then we
would have guest stars like David the Great David o'yelowo,
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who came in as callous and sort of we were
like kind of already a fan pretty quick, pretty viet
like it happened organically, but quite quickly. I would say,
I don't know if you guys would agree with that,
but so yeah, I think, but I also think that
we're all like pretty nice, friendly, personable people. So I
hope we felt I hope we made our guest stars
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feel welcome, and you know, it was I also kind
of feel like we were all like, holy crap, we're
working on Star Wars altogether. Look at us, like look
at us. How much fun we're having, Like, look at
what we get to do. So it always felt kind
of just like a fun gathering of friends, even like
new friends. You know.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I remember Leam O'Brien laid an Imperial officer, and he
came I think somewhere in season one, and I'm not
remembering exactly where, but we were so much more sort
of you know, trying to honor the Star Wars saga,
and like you mentioned, the sort of pressure that perhaps
we had more than any cartoon that was, although maybe
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for Marvel cartoons you are sort of upholding a tradition
of sorts, but we had a bit of pressure. And
then I think he comes back in season two and
we were like throwing bananas, and you know, I remember
he looked at me and he goes, wow, you guys
really settled in and found your rhythm here, and I
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was like, what do you mean.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
He's like, well, the last time.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
I was here, you were all like, oh hello, I
couldn't possibly oh, you know, we were so timid and
now we're like, you know, we were definitely and I
remember with them with Catless, there was something I can't
I don't know if if Steve was joking around or
it was something.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
To do with the episode, with with what someone was wearing,
and maybe it's something that happens later on. But I
used the term ginch and he looked at me with
his very British mind like I'm sorry, what and ghinch
is your undergarment? And I was this like really strange
moment with a guest star where I'm teaching him an
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American slang word for an undergarment, and I was like, hr,
you know.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't think I've ever heard that term ghinch really ginch?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Oh, Okay, I don't. Maybe it's a Canadian thing.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I'm Andrew used to say it all the time, like
don't forget an extra pair of ginch. He doesn't sound
like that, but.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Right now, yeah, we'll talk.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So maybe he didn't look at me with his British mind.
He just looked at me like any civilian who would say,
what on earth are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (22:34):
But that was that does it say?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Sorry? I just I ginch? Is a Canadian slang term
for men's underweares oh in Alberta.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Well, so if you marry a Canadian you'll refer to
it as ghinch. And if you then talk to Americans
or those from the UK, they will also look at
you like your nuts.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
So and furthermore it I guess related terms are getch
gaunch and got cheese.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Anyway, you know this is actually an educational podcast. We
go under the educational podcast. This is not entertainment, it's
not start. We're learning things here.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
We're a genre bending podcast where we're not limiting ourselves
to one.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Can David's like a legend, and I was like, oh god,
if his takeaway is what a horrible cost only talk
about underwear, it's really quite.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I wasn't like a Cambridge. I don't need those, you.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Know, filthy Yeah, anyway, but it was apropos to probably
a story that Steve was telling.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I don't know, you know, he sounds.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Right, so actually going you're probably right in that, Like
I'm remembering it ten years down the line or eleven
years down the line, thinking oh, we were all just
having the best time, you know, right out the gate.
And now that you say that I'm remembering that. I
was absolutely terrify the first several I mean, we'll get
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to this, John when we do, are like those interstitials
because I have some stories for you for that, but
because that was the very, very very first thing I
ever did. It's when I met Vanessa and Freddie. I
don't think Taylor and Steve had been cast yet anyway,
we'll get to that. But yes, and now I'm like
looking back with rose colored glasses, and now that you
bring that up, I'm like, oh, yeah, No. I was
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absolutely shaking in my boots for the first many episodes
with like crippling imposters syndrome because I had never done anime,
you know, I'd never done voiceover, passed on this and
I was like, amongst you know, giants such as Vanessa
Marshall and Steve Bloon, you know, and I'm like, I hope,
to goodness, gracious, no one realizes that I have absolutely
(24:45):
no idea what I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Thank you to you for sharing that too. And I
would have never known you hadn't done voiceover, just because
I was just fully invested when I remember watching like
I have a very I think y'all know I have
a very elephant brain. My memory is kind of crazy.
I'm very like Mike Ross on suits. It's like not
that extreme, but Mike, Mike Ross is going to win
that battle. But I'm right there. You bring up an
interesting point with the script thing that I want to
(25:10):
throw to you because now looking at your script and
I would imagine the copious notes or just things you
want to do, did you find that was transferable over
when you were going back to on camera stuff? And
I'm just curious about that, Like what things like help
the other Like did voiceover complement you're on camera? Did
on camera.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Helped my on camera? I look at it's all just
like the who you are as an actor. It is
helped immensely because, like I was always saying, I thought
it was so much harder being in the booth because
like all of your training is sort of on stage
and using your body, and you have the fact that
these that you can just with a look tell an
entire page of text.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And I was like, oh wow, I have to.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I would listen back to some of it and be like,
I don't think it's coming across as strong as I think,
because I'm inhabiting with my whole body, whereas it's just
going to be heard with my voice. And I feel
like it enhanced that so so much that everything I've
done since then, I feel like, now I have this
much stronger weapon in my arsenal of my voice and
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how I can use it. But I found it so
much more difficult, And I think I admire people who've
really mastered their voice in a way that they're telling
stories with now. I'll listen to an audiobook and I'm like,
oh God, this person is an incredible story. So they're
just using their voice. So I think it's a really
good point in question. I'm curious, like Vanessa, what you
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think with yeah, how oh?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I also like to take a script and I read
it through once. Then i'll read it again on the
treadmill or something at the gym, where I like to
get it in my body as well. It's interesting to
me that that's part of your process. I remember when
I was in drama school, and you know, we would
have to memorize Chekov, Shakespeare or whatever. I would go
(26:56):
on runs with it. I would take myself saying it,
and I would, you know, whatever the monologues were, I
would run and listen to them. And then it just
organically would come out of me and I would forget
all the prep work. And I think that's also why
I think I mentioned before that for the first shorts,
I never got the script and was reading it live
and I literally called my agent after. I was like, well,
(27:17):
I'm most likely going to get fired because I have
no idea what I just did. Because of my process
is so I don't know. Maybe I'm type A as well,
but I love to sort of dive into it in
that way. But I will say I have so much
respect for your ability to be on camera. They're in
drama school. When I would do mask work Committee de
(27:38):
l'arte mask work, I felt so free being invisible, and
I could do things with my body that even the
teacher was like, the hell are you doing like Martha
Graham styles, like crushing it, like my teachers like where
have you been? But it was because I had the
mask on, it gave me permission to fully embody. And
that's how I feel with voiceover, and it is my preference.
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And when I go back to doing on camera things,
I'm like, how the hell are on camera people?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
So still?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It takes so much. I understand people think oh, on
camera actors are so grandiose, like look at me, but no,
you're actually you have a level of grace and humility
to be vulnerable enough to allow yourself to be seen
that I you know, I sometimes I wonder like, what
does this even look like? You guys have a sense
(28:28):
of not only living from the inside out, but also
what how that's you know, which how you want to
be captured? Like Tia, for example, when we're on red carpets, Yo,
her red carpet game is impectable, and I'm like a
sprinkler system, Like I just don't like.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Social.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
That's going to be a social She's like she knows
exactly which side looks incredible and so on and so forth.
And I literally am like, I have no clue what
I look like right now. I don't know what I'm doing,
but that level of attention to a willingness to be seen.
I prefer invisibility, so I feel freedom when no one
can see me. But that, you know, we can talk
(29:09):
about that in therapy later. But I have so much
more respect for on camera actors that use all parts
of themselves and are willing to take that risk.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
To be seen in that manner.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
It's really lovely to watch on camera performance and I
appreciate that you guys are also doing that.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
So thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, if I may, I just want to say that
I have like, uh, maybe five hundred photos in my
phone right now of Vanessa Marshall brushing it on red
carpets and various study the best, so I you know,
we can roll that tape as.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
Well, but that's also going to be a social clip,
roll that beautiful being.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
But thank you, but thank you for that. I'm not
is it all? If I could blush, I'd be blushing.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I loved when we had on camera and we'll talk
about them as as they appear, but like, uh, you know,
we've had some serious celebrities come in and join. Was
it Brett Speiner who came in and was telling stories
about his experience on set and we were like, you're
on camera because they had cameras like they were recording
(30:25):
all us. He was telling some some insane stories and
we were like, this is being recorded, and he did
not care.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I love that. I love that data gave no FS
when he was and that's it. Yeah, he was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And my jobby head was Jimmy Smith's in this episode
or no.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Okay, so we can get there. YEAHL voice that, so
let's get there because we because they were.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Showing my friends and they were like, how sick is it?
It is Jimmy Smiths though like his on camera? Oh yeah,
And I was like, it's so sick. Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I want to see like a John Brody animated and
rebels would be incredible me too.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I mean, yeah, Phil, Phil Lamar, he was.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
He plays Oran Freeta in and Kit Fisto in Clone Wars.
Sorry deep dive guys, give me one second. And originally
Harrah's father was going to be Oran Freeta, who is
the big blue tweet you know. I don't know if
you remember him from of course movies. But then they
(31:32):
made Chom Sindula her father obviously, and that's, you know,
another story. But Harro was meant to rebel against Orn
free Ta and I remember telling Phil like, oh dude,
you get to play my dad, blah blah blah. And
obviously they went a different direction. But I'm grateful that
he was able to show up as Bail Organa, which
he also did in the Clone Wars.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
That's a heavy hitter. Too, and especially in the voice
over wall Phil Lamar. I mean we're talking like Futurama.
There's so many credit.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Phil would come on here Justice, Yeah, yes, you have
some young Justice people on.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Here to ye, that's right fiction.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, just uh Phil Lamar also happens to be just
like the loveliest Man.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yeah, well he'll come on. We'll have him, come on,
let's let's invite him on. Let's have him.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
You are always invited. And I love that Bail Organa
made a appearance here because I did allude to my
quick recap. This is how it all ties in because
remember Canaan and the Ghost group, they don't know who
C three PO and R two D two are like
we do. That's the fun thing about this episode, Like
we had the information, we're waiting for them to figure
out that no, these aren't Imperial Joys, these are the
good guys. And then we meet Bail Organa and he
(32:44):
quotes he quotes like the Jedi phrase, which kana goes,
oh wait, hold on, like there's more rebels out there.
And I love that final shot because it's mirroring Leah
Organa the first meet her in a New Hope with
R two D two. I thought that was just so
cool and like, what a great way to bridge that
gap between people like myself and everybody here who loves
Star Wars but anybody who's never seen Star Wars before.
(33:06):
It's just like, I feel like a great starter kit
to get into the world.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
You know, Yeah, it's this episode especially for that, because
I feel like in the ten years since I'm sure
you guys have heard this too, that like a lot
of people that I've gotten to meet at you know,
out in the real world have told me that Rebels
was their introduction to Star Wars or like, oh, this
is how I got you know, I like bonded with
(33:31):
my daughter and my son, like this was their first
Star Wars or intro to Star Wars, and this is
how we you know, we watched it as family, which
is so wonderful to hear. But I feel like this
episode was like the beginning of that, like nudge, nudge,
wink wink to all to all of those folks who
you know already knew and loved Star Wars and that like, Okay, no,
(33:54):
this is a show for you. But also you don't
need to know those things you don't need to have
of that like extra you know, info to be able
to like get into this world and like meet these
characters and go on the journey with them.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Yeah, which is how it should be. And let's we
brought up David. Let's talk about Callus really quick, because
David's a recurring guest star and there's that that arc
between especially the thing between him and Zeb, is so
incredible and it's one of the greatest arcs that I've
ever seen in television honestly in terms of character work.
And one, let's talk about his look. We talked about
is like face. He's got like the wolverine facial hair,
(34:28):
but he also has like a magneto helmet.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It looks like g I Joe with Wolverine, and like,
I love it.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
It's so strong and what a great reveal of what
his ties are to the Lisa because when Zeb sees
his bow rifle, he's like wait a minute, He's like,
that's right, because I'm not gonna do initial statements, so
I'm not going to attempt that. I just you're planning
so many seeds, but like we talked about in the
last two episodes, it's never like overwhelming. You're getting a
(34:56):
lot of information, Like it's almost like you're leaning in,
which I always say that storytelling one on one. I
think a lot of movies and TV shows they try
to give you too much in your leaning back, like
who whoa WHOA hold on, I don't even know and
I have ADHD, so I'm like, that's too much stimuli
for me. Stop. But this one, even with my ADHD,
I'm like, I'm leaning away, hold on and I know
this world. But at the same time, like, wait, he
(35:16):
kilt a lassat Honor Guard to get the bull rifle.
What's going on here? But it's the correct balance, like
Goldilocks and Three Bears. It was like just right, it
wasn't too much, wasn't too little, and the balance like
Miagi do Karate. There's my other Karate kid reference. It's
very evident with this episode.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
And also not that you you might have you might
be planning to bring us up John, but shout out
to Steve Bloom Yes, yes, just like yeah, that guy,
I love him dearly. But also I just think like
that just gives you like a little a little taste
of what's to come, and just like that peek into
(35:53):
his vulnerability and man, that guy. There is nothing that
man can't do. I am sure of it.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yeah, and then that's why I love that callous as
like the Wolverine facial here, because as you know, Steve
was the voice of Wolverine. That's right, circle, It would
be great he was here to talk about this episode.
But I think, yeah, now that the listeners are hearing
our recaps and insights, having Steve come on after that,
I think would be a really cool thing.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
So Steve, Yeah, we'll get him for the next the
next round here.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
I I also love it.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I just want to say that I feel like we
when I was rewatching this and I see Ezra sort
of play around with Sabine, you.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Know, hey, how you doing over?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
And You're like, I literally rather die like the two
just seeing that. And then you know, and I'm maybe
because I watched the episodes back to back, forgive me
if I'm blurring into the next one, but you know,
when he says, when's my Jedi training? Or you know,
he gets punched by Canaan and Hanah just mom was like, yeah,
we'll see about that, like she's going to fix that.
(37:04):
I love how they take care of each other. I
love how they go to each other and that their
connections are earned, right, Like Ezra and Zeb, you know,
they they fight, but Haarah has the insight to sort
of put them together and make them work it out,
and so that I feel like we watch them earn
each other's respect and affection and they organically we become
(37:29):
more and more invested in them as they let each
other in a bit more and are more vulnerable with
each other with a common enemy, with you know, the
potential loss, like with Zeb's character being sort of in
harm's way eventually with Callous. I don't know, it just
it's so it's so lovely to see that. And remember,
(37:50):
I know we were a little bit more cautious or
sort of we needed to get to know each other obviously,
But I think what great casting that they just knew
that we would kind of fall together as this little
motley crew that I just I was dying laughing, like
Ezra when you're fighting it out with Chopper, like get
off me, you know, And obviously Chopper is not in
(38:13):
the room with us, But I felt that I loved
Chopper's personality and the way we all sort of manipulated
that situation with the Imperials obviously you translating aqualish and
sending them to.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
The wrong Bay area or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I just was like, I just love this group of
characters so much. I fell in love with them again rewatching,
and I want to.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Start a tally of how many languages Sabine is going
to be speaking. I think we're up to three now
because there was Wookie and yeah, Suger rebellion. We have
aqualish and she was doing ASTRONMCT. She was translating what
Art two was seeing. So we're gonna j C. Jacy
and I talked about this yesterday. We're going to start
keeping some tallies and we'll total them up at the
end of each season and see what we're looking at.
(38:59):
I think we go to hyper space three times this episode.
I was like, just for fun counting, it's like, how
many times does the ghost like punch it to hyperspace?
Because y'all are on the run quite a bit in
this series, so that'd be a fun little tally we
can have. And we the first time we see ATSDS,
I know they call them ad ads for the Big Walkers.
I don't know if it's do we see ATSC or
(39:21):
ATS I want to pronounce it wrong, but I'm calling ATSD.
But I thought that was a cool sequence as well,
when we got to see some Imperial Walkers, because for
some people that's the first time they're going to see
those walkers on the ground.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I think it's twee like Twilight. It depends on where
you're from. Both are correct or all it? Yeah, you're fine? Okay, good,
And that's what I seem to recall when I asked
that of Dave as well.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
I love it, love it, and I'll we get our
first mention of Governor Price in this episode. It's really quick. Yes,
Governor Price comes into play later when the someone tells
Callous that there's a call intercepted. But we will make
Governor Price later. Who has you know? The voice of
Governor Price, of course, has many many times to this cast.
We'll get there, Yes, indeed, we'll get there. And Steve
(40:05):
Bloom a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I think they're familiar with each other.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Yes, yes, I think they're friendly. You know, let's say that.
So if there isn't anything else, I think it's almost
time for Dare I say one of our if not
our favorite, let's go, So JC my man, you got
the floor what we got for fact check?
Speaker 9 (40:29):
Maybe all right, I got I got a lot of
stuff for you guys this week. No, no, no, just
just providing some background. I think you guys got everything right.
I just wanted to provide some background. One of the
things that I loved, and as you guys introduced yourselves
at the beginning of the podcast, is Specter. Obviously, Specter
(40:50):
is a ghost to the ghost Ship. I think I
watched all of season one without putting that together. So
I'm just going to put that on front Street right now.
Maybe I'm the only person on Earth who didn't pick
that up until episode ten, but.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I'm sure you're not, Jason.
Speaker 9 (41:06):
This is also the first canon appearance of the RX
twenty four droid, which we know from Star Tours and
that you know he has appeared in a book of
Boba Fat and a bunch of other media since. But
I believe this is the first canon appearance of that droid,
which is kind of cool. One of the things I
love watching, especially the Star Wars Animated, is that I
(41:29):
site read the arabsh language, so anytime it pops up
on screen, I like to read, like the Little Easter
eggs that whoever's putting in not that exciting. But in
this episode, there in Bay two C is written on
the docking bay wall and the crate that they're hiding
behind says Storage Rental on it.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
You just can read that.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, wow, this at NYU.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
I missed out on that. They've clearly like that.
Speaker 9 (42:01):
What you mean? I'm so nerdy that I taught myself.
I bought a monopoly game that had like a cipher
on it that like corresponded to the letters. I think
it was from the old West End Games book. And
in high school I took all of my class notes
in Arabesh. So even though it's been twenty six years,
(42:22):
I plus twenty six plus years, I still remember it.
I can still see it.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Jesse, your brain is a expressive No, you should be
like a codebreaker.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, you could be.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I thanks.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
So.
Speaker 9 (42:37):
I wanted to point out Visago rides in a V
thirty five Courier land Speeder, which is the same land
Speeder that Luke's aunt and uncle have on tattooing.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Too soon, So it's always too soon.
Speaker 9 (42:51):
The other things from the podcast today, John pointed out
the Aqualish language is similar to Rodian and hatise and
he is correct. That's right. And I actually I will
show this. We can drop this in show notes on
social media and stuff, but I wanted to show you, guys.
(43:15):
I wanted to show you guys. So this is the
map of the Star Wars galacy h of the Star
Wars Galaxy. And then if we zoom in on it
here you can see the circles. The top circle is
circled around now Huddah, which is the home world of
the Huts. And then we have and is kind of
(43:36):
the middle circle there, and then Rodia and O is
aqualish uh, and then Rodia is the uh the bottom
circle there, so they're all in about the same point.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Of For those who can't see, we're looking at basically
Miami Tallahassee.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
And yeah, so bush Guard is Disney World and uh.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
And j C's mohawk is really giving you the worst
to live. I wish you could see it. We're gonna
have to put that in bonus content, y'all, because that
could heal all all of humanity.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
We're gonna all have trading cards and for sure we're
gonna be pasturing JC and is awesome like Warhawk Mohawk
it's it's in your hair last episodes too, like, so
it's like that's gonna be a recurring thing. Jason past
j R two D two and C three PO.
Speaker 9 (44:25):
John, you mentioned that they're the only characters to appear
across all nine Skywalker Saga films. They're also in Rogue one.
That is correct. We talked about the age of R
two D two and C three PO, and there's a
little bit of I always like to refer back to
Star Wars Legends as well, because there's so many people
who loved that. According to Star Wars Legends, C three
(44:48):
PO was built one hundred and twelve years before the
Battle of Yaven. But as we found out in episode
you Know one, Episode two, Episode three, Anakin bought built
C three so he is about, you know, thirty two
years before the Battle of Yavin thirty two to thirty four.
(45:09):
It's ambiguous when Anakin actually brought him to life. We
also talked about droids being rebuilt and destroyed. Of course,
we know C three PO was destroyed on Cloud City
and rebuilt by Chewbacca, so yeah, that does happen. R
two D two was thirty two years before the Battle
of Yavin, so as we see him in this episode,
I think he's around twenty eight ish years old. He
(45:33):
apparently was destroyed in his twelfth year of being a
droid and was rebuilt on the planet Carrida, which was
an Imperial stronghold planet. And another little tidbit, R two
D two continues to get passed down throughout the Skywalker family.
In the future books and comic books, Cade Skywalker, which's
one hundred and thirty seven years after the Battle of Yavin,
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still has R two D two and he's still going strong.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
And he looks great.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
That's amazing.
Speaker 9 (46:02):
And then we last thing, was you guys mentioned ad
at or at a t at st I know this
is a really fun debate amongst Star Wars fans. I
am firmly in the at At camp because I believe
the first time that that was ever mentioned was in
a toy commercial in the nineteen eighties for Kenner Toys,
(46:26):
and the kids in the toy commercial call it ad At,
not at a t see.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
I couldn't back it up, but I'm with you, so.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
I don't add at us. I guess at.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Luckily we keep this for the end so people stick around.
Speaker 9 (46:47):
So that's all we got for fact check. You guys,
you guys nailed it this week.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
Yes, all right, well that wraps up this one. Thank
you again JC for we love this fact check so much,
and thank you the Vanessa Tea and Taylor for sharing
stories because I love getting insight. I know what listeners
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Speaker 3 (47:29):
And thanks go too out see you next week.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
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I don't remember you.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
How were those lines written out with RTD two and
Chopper going back and forth like where their act was
actually dialogue?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Vanessa correct me if I'm wrong with Chopper's lines were
never written out.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Yeah, I think it was like beeple boot bop, and
then parenthetically there was something like what he was actually saying.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I need to then give a massive apologies.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Hey everybody, I'm Vanessa Marshall, the voice of Harrison Doula,
and welcome to the Pod of Rebellion.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
We have a few family members here today.
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
Hey, what's up. I'm Taylor Gray spect six.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
I'm Johnley Brody, not nonspector but moderator for this fine podcast,
and we are obviously still very very dialed in and
organized with our introduction. Hi everybody, how is everybody doing? Great?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Good?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, nice to see you guys.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
I love doing this. I know we're only we're on
episode three, but it's just I got so excited before
recording because I know we get to hang released a
little bit so and this is I like being around friends,
so this is just great for.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Me for us as well.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Yeah, but how is everybody? Everybody's good? I'd like to
do little check ins and I want to check in
with our listeners too, like I always believe in checking
in is important, especially with friends are just in general
and checking in with yourself too. So how is everybody awesome?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
All as well? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, not much too, not much to report, which is good?
Speaker 6 (01:39):
All right? Well on that, I believe while we're here,
we might as well go over an episode of Star
Wars Rebels. I mean right, I mean, wow, we're here, yeah,
I mean we came all this way to Zoe meeting
and computer So Droids and Distress original air date October thirteenth,
twenty fourteen, so crazy, like that was such a long
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time ago. We have incredible guest stars on this, incredible
characters that make some guest appearances which we will get
into here. Our recap of Droids and Distress, we get
a sense of what rebel lifestyle entails for the Ghost crew.
Ezra is now fully ingrained into the Ghost family and
more eager than Daniel LaRusso in nineteen eighty four to
get his force training going. We also see that outrunning
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the Empire takes its toll, and unfortunately being in the
Rebel alliance isn't a salary position, so we see the
harsh reality of the rebel lifestyle, which can entail running
low and supplies money and even morale. So with their
backs against the wall, the Ghost Crew takes on a
job from the Sketchy Vizago and throughout this journey we
meet some very special folks from the Star Wars universe,
so Being continues to show her Zeno linguistic skills. We
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learn a little bit more about Callus and its tied
to Lossots, which are Zeb's people, which thus then ignites
the fire for what will be their ongoing rivalry. And
as we get to see more of what makes the
Ghost Crew so special, we also get more info as
to how they and the Star Wars Rebels continuity all
tiesing to the Star Wars Skywalker Soca continuity. But a
lot of us know and love. So that is my
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quick recap for everybody. What is everybody? What are initial
thoughts after watching this episode?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
By anyway, that was fantastic, so so safe jeez, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
And I love Coret Kaid references. So one of the
things you will hear a lot of Cobraka and Karated
represents throughout that podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, no issues with that. I loved it. It has
both been a long time since we've done that, but
it's also doesn't feel like that it could possibly have
been ten years ago, or actually I guess we would
have recorded it eleven years ago, right, but yeah, I
just I'm I'm it's reminding me like, oh right, right
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when we recorded this one, because it's been such a
long time since I actually saw this thing. It's been
since it aired, So it's a nice little walk down
memory lane, which this whole thing will be I realized,
but we're just getting started, so it still feels fresh
and new to me.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I'm trying to remember when you spoke aqualish? Was that
was that spelled out?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Like, yes, yeah, it was spelled phonetically. This is this
is trying to remember what we did. I cringed hard
when I when I watched that, I was like, oh geez,
he's great, Well, thank you. I will say that I
this was my first time. You know, obviously I do
it much more throughout the series, but this was my
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first time having to speak a language that I've never
seen or heard before. And I remember wanting Dave to like,
tell me, how does it sound? You know I talked
before about like being a perfectionist and being a type
A and needing to know like the right way or
wanting to do it correctly, and him, I remember, this
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was like one of the first times that he was like,
you say it how you say it? And I'm like, no,
but that's not if I if I speak all these languages,
I would say. He was kind of like, what you're
you you got this, and I was like, but I
don't got it. I don't know this language. So anyway,
I hope, I hope it makes me cringe less in future.
But this one, thankfully, it was only like a three
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or four word sentence, but we got through it.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I thought you'd think great, and I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Yeah, and JC can fact check us on this, but
I believe aqualish is like adjacent to like hot tease
or Rodian language, and you had the cadence down, so
to me, like, that's what I gravitated towards you.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, that was that was completely on purpose, very planned out.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Yeah, of course it was because you're you're awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's fun that we had Suko and Archie. Yeah, going
at it with Chopper. This is the first episode I
hadn't seen because the first episode we saw that. I
feel like a couple of times when they showed just this,
I was like, wait, they were on the show.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
I think that was.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Pretty incredible, And I looked it up.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It says that that Anthony Daniels did it.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, yeah, wait, Taylor, you might not have seen this episode,
but we did record the episode.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, but I'm now blown away my short to memory.
I'm trying to wipe away last week. Honestly, yeah, ten
years ago. Trust me that that is in a capsule
flying off in space somewhere. But sure, I thought it
was so fun that Chopper was going back and forth
with I was like, how were those I don't remember you?
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How were those lines written out? With RTD two and
Chopper going back and forth? Like, were there act was
actually dialogue?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
No, I but as to correct me if I'm wrong,
but there was no. Chopper's lines were never written out.
It would just say right then, I.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Said, yeah, I think it was like people boot bop
And then parenthetically there was something like what he was
actually saying exactly? Then That's what I believe, And of
course C three pos lines were.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I need to then give a massive apology. It's not
the mandelific. But I've told everyone at every convention that
I was like, yeah, I was always reading Chopper's lines,
like you don't know what they said, but it was this,
this and this.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I thought they were always written out there.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I believe in English, right, I thought.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
They were written out and then I can check pop
boo boo boo.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, I can check on a script I'll look for
next time. I'll double check. But I recall even if
I believe that there was like chirp, chirp, chirp or
bebop bop or something along those lines, and then parenthetically,
what was inferred, however, you could sort of tell from
like Chopper, like whatever came after the beat bop boo boop,
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it was pretty clear that Chopper had said or done
something adversarial or otherwise, and it was indicated as to
what they were saying.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I'm yeah, I think I might have just written out
stuff so that I had a specific thing to real
because I'm like, I know I saw on my script words,
but I think.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It's so interesting to me because I remember no beat
boop ups. I don't remember any beat boot Bop Britain.
Now I feel like I feel like it was words.
But what if we just what if we just sort
of like projected what we Oh my gosh, how.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
We Why don't we see if I can find it
and I've got a grip hold on, let me try
and find it here.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
You're all just a fluent and astromic and it's like
it's just easily like you look at the carrias like, oh,
like that's just what do you remember?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
The reason being is that when the first time we
actually watched an episode and we heard Chopper for the
first time, I was like, oh, that's funny, that's not
what I you know I did. There was a surprise
to me. I don't know. Maybe maybe that's because I'm
not as being.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Wise but not Dave. Dave didn't tell us that he
was Chopper for a while.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, no, he know, Yeah, we know that for a
very long time, which is interesting because everyone else knew
once it came out, but we did.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
And also when you say he didn't tell us for
a long time, I don't recall him ever telling us.
It was just sort of like it came to be
known and we were all like Dave, but.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
At the end we knew because I remember I had
made it a little mission in my head. I was
like at one point, like we're all here, we should
all record together. Like I remember asking him through the
very last two episodes, like just do it with us,
like do one line, because you've never done it with us,
and I don't think he did.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
He didn't, He didn't do it all.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
He never recorded with us there.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I watched the episode with some of my friends as well,
and did you any feedback?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
They yeah, they said, don't let this go a second season. No,
no exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
They were like, hope you don't make it through this. Yikes,
they were. They were really impressed by the music. They're
like who scored this? And I went back and I
was like, it's an I think Ken kind of did
it with like an orchestra, right. It is so good
and you will even think through these episodes like because
I remember it standing out in other episodes in a
big way, and I was like, dang, even in these
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type of Dutchess like beside quests and ways, it stands
out how unique and beautiful the music is. Where I
then just started paying attention to that at times, and
I was really really impressed.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I'm so glad you brought that up because I'm I
feel the exact same way, like I know that like
through season two and then three and then four, like
the music just gets better and better and better and
like this like orchestral amazing sort of like just really
impressive score. But in this episode, episode three, I was.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Like, Shopper, I found it. Sorry, go on, sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
What I was gonna say, I'm so sorry just that
that I remembered that army. It went hard, like right
from the job, like it's so good, it's so impressive.
Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I found it? It was in little there was no
there's no beatop boop. It's just it's in like Circom Grave.
What are the what are those arrows? It says Chopper
found the door.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, I thought it was just right.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh thank god, my apology.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Guys. Yeah, what I've been saying at convention.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I don't know why I remember seeing I must be
confusing different droids, but I thought there was beatop boop
and then found the door anyway, so uh yeah, there's no.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Share that stuff. Like we maybe we can make that
a social clip or maybe we can.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I don't think. I don't think you should be doing that.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
What they've already seen the episode.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
It's not it's not privileged.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, we signed an NDA before it came out, but
if you showed someone the script today, they've already seen
the episode.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I don't think.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
There There's always ways. I've seen other people do it.
We can double check. Obviously, I don't want to speak
out of turn, but I've seen people do the script
the screen stuff, so I feel like maybe that could
be something cool we can do. So we'll look into that.
No promises, but thank you for finding that, because I
was wondering myself because I know on Guardians of the
Galaxy when they do the group lines, obviously all we
hear is Ion group, but they also tell Vin Diesel
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what he's actually saying with the Ion group. So I'm
glad to know that there was some sort of translation
for you all to get the context of what cho Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
It was very organic because he was just another member
of the I mean, he is obviously another member of
the crew, but in the dialogue, his dialogue is his
responses and where you know, we're responding to something ridiculous
he said, and we knew exactly what he was saying,
so it wasn't until you know much and Dave never
recorded with us like that, never. Yeah, So like it was,
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it was. It was fun to watch it after the fact,
knowing what the intention is behind that particular beep up
boob and what he was actually saying at the time,
or you know.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
What what Chop was saying.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I honestly cannot believe I found that script, So I
forgive me for my outburst interrupting your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
I'd I'd be stoked too if I saw that. So,
like Benu at the top of the show, of this episode,
incredible guest stars, I believe he's night it's Sir Anthony Daniels.
So I'm guessing he wasn't in the booth of you.
I'm guessing he recorded separately in England. He was in England,
which they do. I know what Frank, cause when Frank
ozos Yoda, he's been doing remotely since the prequels, so
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I know that. But also we had the late great
Paul Rubins as a guest voice RX.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Twenty four Wait wait not pee wee.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, he's on this episode. He's X twenty four
in the space. So you have not only Archie D
two in C three PO, which, first of all, it's
hard for me to say three Po not as Mark
hamllon a new help like in the trash Conpactory, I
would have to say it like that. But you have
three PO, RX twenty four, Paul Rubins and our due
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to end Chopper. You got a lot of great droid
action in one scene.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Droid action. I like that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, the droids are so cool and they're such a
fun They're not even a side's that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
They're so like pivotal to Star Wars.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So it was fun that there was a whole thing
centered on them and the antics of like because C
three PO and RG D two are so well known
that Chopper I feel like, kind of stepped in and
sort of bullied them in a certain way. It made
Chopper really come to prominence in my mind where I
was like, oh, yeah, this this droid is like.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Here he was like Chopper was like the series where
I was like, oh, no, I.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Guess exactly, which is so funny. This is my show
and we're guest star.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I felt I don't know about you guys, but like
I felt like kind of got some feels like when
the door goes up and it's them, I of course
had forgotten. I don't remember what each of these. There
are very few episodes just by the name of the
episode that I remember what happens in the episode since
it's been so long, so I didn't remember, you know,
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who is in this episode. And as soon as that
door opened, I got like, I was like, oh, yeah,
I forgot yes, yes, yes. And also I really love
like the beef Chopper like gives no fs and like
like this is this is like the episode where we
the audience get to really get a sense of like
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who Chopper is, what his his sass and his like
mischievousness and all of that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, something that stood out to me that was so
funny is I don't know, I haven't seen this before,
how casually they're talking while moving through hyperspace.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
He just blue blue all outside of the ship, and
I'm like, they're just having a regular conversation and not
regular there are stakes to it, but like they're talking
very normally for moving at hyperspace.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
To me, I was laughing so hard at that. I
thought it was incredible.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yeah, because especially in contrast to like Spaceballs, where going
through ludicrous speed, you can't inform a sentence, so really
you all are doing about doing something right there exactly.
And also like to see three PO and R two
D two I believe, and again luckily we had the
great JC to fact check everything. I believe they're the
only two characters to appear in every single one of
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the Skywalker Saga movies. I think, so I know they
for sure have. I don't know if they're the only ones.
But and little fun trivia for everybody for those who
don't know George Lucas. When he wrote A New Hope,
he based it off the Kudasawa movie Hidden Fortress, which
sent it down on the two like, you know, lowliest
characters for lack of a better term, like the unlikely characters,
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which is what A New Hope was. You centered on
three PO and R two D two. So then for
those two to be carrying on through the Skywalker Saga
being in every single one. But then come to your
show on Star Wars Rebels as like the second broadcast episode.
My I remember seeing that in real times, Like, holy
I gotta bleeve myself because a family friendly show. Uh,
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And I just love the dynamic of those two, like
they're two of the greatest duos. It's up there with
like Shaq and Kobe. You know, uh, I have a.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Question for probably Vanessa and John if you know that
it's it? Are how old or are droids ageless? Or
is it from when they were created?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like how old?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I mean JC might know this actually have to do everything,
but like how old would r T D two and
C three PO be or is age not a fact?
Age not a thing for droid?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
But they were created?
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Are they getting creates like like because you know like iPhones, motherboards.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Software, jades and like that might barnware.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Yeah, that might be a j C question.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
All right, let's let's let's put a pin in that
good question.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
That's a great question because I know, like I mean,
the funny thing Anakin built three PO and Phantom menace.
So it's like, are we doing the math of that's
how many years before? Yamen? And would that be it?
You know, I don't Our two has been around for
a minute. I feel like our two has more of
a backstory than three PO as far as I know,
as far as what I've seen. But again, luckily you've
got JC to help us out there.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Well, if we could, if we could translate the beeps
and the boots and the box, we would probably hear
R two being like who is this little whipper snapper
could come in to me like you know, who's like
an old sage old droid and this like Chopper is
this like upstart?
Speaker 6 (18:25):
R two is like you know what I've been through many.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Seriously my story, you know idea, it's.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Like, dude, you don't let me tell you the stuff
that I have seen? Yeah, probably be like you know what, actually,
probably Chopper wouldn't back.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Off, Chop Chopper would have no yeah, no regard.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I had a quick question for you all because I
know how it works on live action episodic with guest casts.
I know it could be tough for guest cast to
come in because you've got to find the ribbon of
the show really really quickly. Is it like that with voiceover?
But essentially you all are kind of in a way
guest cast too, because Star Wars is so huge. So
I was just wondering if at all any kind of
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insight you can give in terms of I don't know,
I don't want to put as like the weight of
that responsibility, but what that dynamic is like in the booth,
because I don't think a lot of people think about
that or know about that.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I think that this question is actually more applicable to
us than probably a lot of other you know, animated series,
which is probably why you asked. But yeah, because you know,
normally it's kind of a non issue, wouldn't you guys say, like,
you go in the booth and you I've worked on
shows where I might record with like the people in
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the people most in the scenes I'm in, and you know,
so maybe there's like one two more people in the
booth with me and we're doing a scene. But because
we recorded every single episode as a cast, as our crew,
I guess it does actually apply here because then we
would have guest stars like David the Great David o'yelowo,
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who came in as callous and sort of we were
like kind of already a fan pretty quick, pretty viet
like it happened organically, but quite quickly. I would say,
I don't know if you guys would agree with that,
but so yeah, I think, but I also think that
we're all like pretty nice, friendly, personable people. So I
hope we felt I hope we made our guest stars
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feel welcome, and you know, it was I also kind
of feel like we were all like, holy crap, we're
working on Star Wars altogether. Look at us, like look
at us. How much fun we're having, Like, look at
what we get to do. So it always felt kind
of just like a fun gathering of friends, even like
new friends. You know.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I remember Leam O'Brien laid an Imperial officer, and he
came I think somewhere in season one, and I'm not
remembering exactly where, but we were so much more sort
of you know, trying to honor the Star Wars saga,
and like you mentioned, the sort of pressure that perhaps
we had more than any cartoon that was, although maybe
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for Marvel cartoons you are sort of upholding a tradition
of sorts, but we had a bit of pressure. And
then I think he comes back in season two and
we were like throwing bananas, and you know, I remember
he looked at me and he goes, wow, you guys
really settled in and found your rhythm here, and I
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was like, what do you mean.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
He's like, well, the last time.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
I was here, you were all like, oh hello, I
couldn't possibly oh, you know, we were so timid and
now we're like, you know, we were definitely and I
remember with them with Catless, there was something I can't
I don't know if if Steve was joking around or
it was something.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
To do with the episode, with with what someone was wearing,
and maybe it's something that happens later on. But I
used the term ginch and he looked at me with
his very British mind like I'm sorry, what and ghinch
is your undergarment? And I was this like really strange
moment with a guest star where I'm teaching him an
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American slang word for an undergarment, and I was like, hr,
you know.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't think I've ever heard that term ghinch really ginch?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Oh, Okay, I don't. Maybe it's a Canadian thing.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I'm Andrew used to say it all the time, like
don't forget an extra pair of ginch. He doesn't sound
like that, but.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Right now, yeah, we'll talk.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So maybe he didn't look at me with his British mind.
He just looked at me like any civilian who would say,
what on earth are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (22:34):
But that was that does it say?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Sorry? I just I ginch? Is a Canadian slang term
for men's underweares oh in Alberta.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Well, so if you marry a Canadian you'll refer to
it as ghinch. And if you then talk to Americans
or those from the UK, they will also look at
you like your nuts.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
So and furthermore it I guess related terms are getch
gaunch and got cheese.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Anyway, you know this is actually an educational podcast. We
go under the educational podcast. This is not entertainment, it's
not start. We're learning things here.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
We're a genre bending podcast where we're not limiting ourselves
to one.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Can David's like a legend, and I was like, oh god,
if his takeaway is what a horrible cost only talk
about underwear, it's really quite.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I wasn't like a Cambridge. I don't need those, you.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Know, filthy Yeah, anyway, but it was apropos to probably
a story that Steve was telling.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I don't know, you know, he sounds.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Right, so actually going you're probably right in that, Like
I'm remembering it ten years down the line or eleven
years down the line, thinking oh, we were all just
having the best time, you know, right out the gate.
And now that you say that I'm remembering that. I
was absolutely terrify the first several I mean, we'll get
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to this, John when we do, are like those interstitials
because I have some stories for you for that, but
because that was the very, very very first thing I
ever did. It's when I met Vanessa and Freddie. I
don't think Taylor and Steve had been cast yet anyway,
we'll get to that. But yes, and now I'm like
looking back with rose colored glasses, and now that you
bring that up, I'm like, oh, yeah, No. I was
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absolutely shaking in my boots for the first many episodes
with like crippling imposters syndrome because I had never done anime,
you know, I'd never done voiceover, passed on this and
I was like, amongst you know, giants such as Vanessa
Marshall and Steve Bloon, you know, and I'm like, I hope,
to goodness, gracious, no one realizes that I have absolutely
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no idea what I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Thank you to you for sharing that too. And I
would have never known you hadn't done voiceover, just because
I was just fully invested when I remember watching like
I have a very I think y'all know I have
a very elephant brain. My memory is kind of crazy.
I'm very like Mike Ross on suits. It's like not
that extreme, but Mike, Mike Ross is going to win
that battle. But I'm right there. You bring up an
interesting point with the script thing that I want to
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throw to you because now looking at your script and
I would imagine the copious notes or just things you
want to do, did you find that was transferable over
when you were going back to on camera stuff? And
I'm just curious about that, Like what things like help
the other Like did voiceover complement you're on camera? Did
on camera.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Helped my on camera? I look at it's all just
like the who you are as an actor. It is
helped immensely because, like I was always saying, I thought
it was so much harder being in the booth because
like all of your training is sort of on stage
and using your body, and you have the fact that
these that you can just with a look tell an
entire page of text.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And I was like, oh wow, I have to.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I would listen back to some of it and be like,
I don't think it's coming across as strong as I think,
because I'm inhabiting with my whole body, whereas it's just
going to be heard with my voice. And I feel
like it enhanced that so so much that everything I've
done since then, I feel like, now I have this
much stronger weapon in my arsenal of my voice and
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how I can use it. But I found it so
much more difficult, And I think I admire people who've
really mastered their voice in a way that they're telling
stories with now. I'll listen to an audiobook and I'm like,
oh God, this person is an incredible story. So they're
just using their voice. So I think it's a really
good point in question. I'm curious, like Vanessa, what you
(26:33):
think with yeah, how oh?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I also like to take a script and I read
it through once. Then i'll read it again on the
treadmill or something at the gym, where I like to
get it in my body as well. It's interesting to
me that that's part of your process. I remember when
I was in drama school, and you know, we would
have to memorize Chekov, Shakespeare or whatever. I would go
(26:56):
on runs with it. I would take myself saying it,
and I would, you know, whatever the monologues were, I
would run and listen to them. And then it just
organically would come out of me and I would forget
all the prep work. And I think that's also why
I think I mentioned before that for the first shorts,
I never got the script and was reading it live
and I literally called my agent after. I was like, well,
(27:17):
I'm most likely going to get fired because I have
no idea what I just did. Because of my process
is so I don't know. Maybe I'm type A as well,
but I love to sort of dive into it in
that way. But I will say I have so much
respect for your ability to be on camera. They're in
drama school. When I would do mask work Committee de
(27:38):
l'arte mask work, I felt so free being invisible, and
I could do things with my body that even the
teacher was like, the hell are you doing like Martha
Graham styles, like crushing it, like my teachers like where
have you been? But it was because I had the
mask on, it gave me permission to fully embody. And
that's how I feel with voiceover, and it is my preference.
(28:01):
And when I go back to doing on camera things,
I'm like, how the hell are on camera people?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
So still?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It takes so much. I understand people think oh, on
camera actors are so grandiose, like look at me, but no,
you're actually you have a level of grace and humility
to be vulnerable enough to allow yourself to be seen
that I you know, I sometimes I wonder like, what
does this even look like? You guys have a sense
(28:28):
of not only living from the inside out, but also
what how that's you know, which how you want to
be captured? Like Tia, for example, when we're on red carpets, Yo,
her red carpet game is impectable, and I'm like a
sprinkler system, Like I just don't like.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Social.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
That's going to be a social She's like she knows
exactly which side looks incredible and so on and so forth.
And I literally am like, I have no clue what
I look like right now. I don't know what I'm doing,
but that level of attention to a willingness to be seen.
I prefer invisibility, so I feel freedom when no one
can see me. But that, you know, we can talk
(29:09):
about that in therapy later. But I have so much
more respect for on camera actors that use all parts
of themselves and are willing to take that risk.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
To be seen in that manner.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
It's really lovely to watch on camera performance and I
appreciate that you guys are also doing that.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
So thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, if I may, I just want to say that
I have like, uh, maybe five hundred photos in my
phone right now of Vanessa Marshall brushing it on red
carpets and various study the best, so I you know,
we can roll that tape as.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
Well, but that's also going to be a social clip,
roll that beautiful being.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
But thank you, but thank you for that. I'm not
is it all? If I could blush, I'd be blushing.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I loved when we had on camera and we'll talk
about them as as they appear, but like, uh, you know,
we've had some serious celebrities come in and join. Was
it Brett Speiner who came in and was telling stories
about his experience on set and we were like, you're
on camera because they had cameras like they were recording
(30:25):
all us. He was telling some some insane stories and
we were like, this is being recorded, and he did
not care.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I love that. I love that data gave no FS
when he was and that's it. Yeah, he was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And my jobby head was Jimmy Smith's in this episode
or no.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Okay, so we can get there. YEAHL voice that, so
let's get there because we because they were.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Showing my friends and they were like, how sick is it?
It is Jimmy Smiths though like his on camera? Oh yeah,
And I was like, it's so sick. Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I want to see like a John Brody animated and
rebels would be incredible me too.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I mean, yeah, Phil, Phil Lamar, he was.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
He plays Oran Freeta in and Kit Fisto in Clone Wars.
Sorry deep dive guys, give me one second. And originally
Harrah's father was going to be Oran Freeta, who is
the big blue tweet you know. I don't know if
you remember him from of course movies. But then they
(31:32):
made Chom Sindula her father obviously, and that's, you know,
another story. But Harro was meant to rebel against Orn
free Ta and I remember telling Phil like, oh dude,
you get to play my dad, blah blah blah. And
obviously they went a different direction. But I'm grateful that
he was able to show up as Bail Organa, which
he also did in the Clone Wars.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
That's a heavy hitter. Too, and especially in the voice
over wall Phil Lamar. I mean we're talking like Futurama.
There's so many credit.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Phil would come on here Justice, Yeah, yes, you have
some young Justice people on.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Here to ye, that's right fiction.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, just uh Phil Lamar also happens to be just
like the loveliest Man.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yeah, well he'll come on. We'll have him, come on,
let's let's invite him on. Let's have him.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
You are always invited. And I love that Bail Organa
made a appearance here because I did allude to my
quick recap. This is how it all ties in because
remember Canaan and the Ghost group, they don't know who
C three PO and R two D two are like
we do. That's the fun thing about this episode, Like
we had the information, we're waiting for them to figure
out that no, these aren't Imperial Joys, these are the
good guys. And then we meet Bail Organa and he
(32:44):
quotes he quotes like the Jedi phrase, which kana goes,
oh wait, hold on, like there's more rebels out there.
And I love that final shot because it's mirroring Leah
Organa the first meet her in a New Hope with
R two D two. I thought that was just so
cool and like, what a great way to bridge that
gap between people like myself and everybody here who loves
Star Wars but anybody who's never seen Star Wars before.
(33:06):
It's just like, I feel like a great starter kit
to get into the world.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
You know, Yeah, it's this episode especially for that, because
I feel like in the ten years since I'm sure
you guys have heard this too, that like a lot
of people that I've gotten to meet at you know,
out in the real world have told me that Rebels
was their introduction to Star Wars or like, oh, this
is how I got you know, I like bonded with
(33:31):
my daughter and my son, like this was their first
Star Wars or intro to Star Wars, and this is
how we you know, we watched it as family, which
is so wonderful to hear. But I feel like this
episode was like the beginning of that, like nudge, nudge,
wink wink to all to all of those folks who
you know already knew and loved Star Wars and that like, Okay, no,
(33:54):
this is a show for you. But also you don't
need to know those things you don't need to have
of that like extra you know, info to be able
to like get into this world and like meet these
characters and go on the journey with them.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Yeah, which is how it should be. And let's we
brought up David. Let's talk about Callus really quick, because
David's a recurring guest star and there's that that arc
between especially the thing between him and Zeb, is so
incredible and it's one of the greatest arcs that I've
ever seen in television honestly in terms of character work.
And one, let's talk about his look. We talked about
is like face. He's got like the wolverine facial hair,
(34:28):
but he also has like a magneto helmet.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It looks like g I Joe with Wolverine, and like,
I love it.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
It's so strong and what a great reveal of what
his ties are to the Lisa because when Zeb sees
his bow rifle, he's like wait a minute, He's like,
that's right, because I'm not gonna do initial statements, so
I'm not going to attempt that. I just you're planning
so many seeds, but like we talked about in the
last two episodes, it's never like overwhelming. You're getting a
(34:56):
lot of information, Like it's almost like you're leaning in,
which I always say that storytelling one on one. I
think a lot of movies and TV shows they try
to give you too much in your leaning back, like
who whoa WHOA hold on, I don't even know and
I have ADHD, so I'm like, that's too much stimuli
for me. Stop. But this one, even with my ADHD,
I'm like, I'm leaning away, hold on and I know
this world. But at the same time, like, wait, he
(35:16):
kilt a lassat Honor Guard to get the bull rifle.
What's going on here? But it's the correct balance, like
Goldilocks and Three Bears. It was like just right, it
wasn't too much, wasn't too little, and the balance like
Miagi do Karate. There's my other Karate kid reference. It's
very evident with this episode.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
And also not that you you might have you might
be planning to bring us up John, but shout out
to Steve Bloom Yes, yes, just like yeah, that guy,
I love him dearly. But also I just think like
that just gives you like a little a little taste
of what's to come, and just like that peek into
(35:53):
his vulnerability and man, that guy. There is nothing that
man can't do. I am sure of it.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yeah, and then that's why I love that callous as
like the Wolverine facial here, because as you know, Steve
was the voice of Wolverine. That's right, circle, It would
be great he was here to talk about this episode.
But I think, yeah, now that the listeners are hearing
our recaps and insights, having Steve come on after that,
I think would be a really cool thing.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
So Steve, Yeah, we'll get him for the next the
next round here.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
I I also love it.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I just want to say that I feel like we
when I was rewatching this and I see Ezra sort
of play around with Sabine, you.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Know, hey, how you doing over?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
And You're like, I literally rather die like the two
just seeing that. And then you know, and I'm maybe
because I watched the episodes back to back, forgive me
if I'm blurring into the next one, but you know,
when he says, when's my Jedi training? Or you know,
he gets punched by Canaan and Hanah just mom was like, yeah,
we'll see about that, like she's going to fix that.
(37:04):
I love how they take care of each other. I
love how they go to each other and that their
connections are earned, right, Like Ezra and Zeb, you know,
they they fight, but Haarah has the insight to sort
of put them together and make them work it out,
and so that I feel like we watch them earn
each other's respect and affection and they organically we become
(37:29):
more and more invested in them as they let each
other in a bit more and are more vulnerable with
each other with a common enemy, with you know, the
potential loss, like with Zeb's character being sort of in
harm's way eventually with Callous. I don't know, it just
it's so it's so lovely to see that. And remember,
(37:50):
I know we were a little bit more cautious or
sort of we needed to get to know each other obviously,
But I think what great casting that they just knew
that we would kind of fall together as this little
motley crew that I just I was dying laughing, like
Ezra when you're fighting it out with Chopper, like get
off me, you know, And obviously Chopper is not in
(38:13):
the room with us, But I felt that I loved
Chopper's personality and the way we all sort of manipulated
that situation with the Imperials obviously you translating aqualish and
sending them to.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
The wrong Bay area or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I just was like, I just love this group of
characters so much. I fell in love with them again rewatching,
and I want to.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Start a tally of how many languages Sabine is going
to be speaking. I think we're up to three now
because there was Wookie and yeah, Suger rebellion. We have
aqualish and she was doing ASTRONMCT. She was translating what
Art two was seeing. So we're gonna j C. Jacy
and I talked about this yesterday. We're going to start
keeping some tallies and we'll total them up at the
end of each season and see what we're looking at.
(38:59):
I think we go to hyper space three times this episode.
I was like, just for fun counting, it's like, how
many times does the ghost like punch it to hyperspace?
Because y'all are on the run quite a bit in
this series, so that'd be a fun little tally we
can have. And we the first time we see ATSDS,
I know they call them ad ads for the Big Walkers.
I don't know if it's do we see ATSC or
(39:21):
ATS I want to pronounce it wrong, but I'm calling ATSD.
But I thought that was a cool sequence as well,
when we got to see some Imperial Walkers, because for
some people that's the first time they're going to see
those walkers on the ground.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I think it's twee like Twilight. It depends on where
you're from. Both are correct or all it? Yeah, you're fine? Okay, good,
And that's what I seem to recall when I asked
that of Dave as well.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
I love it, love it, and I'll we get our
first mention of Governor Price in this episode. It's really quick. Yes,
Governor Price comes into play later when the someone tells
Callous that there's a call intercepted. But we will make
Governor Price later. Who has you know? The voice of
Governor Price, of course, has many many times to this cast.
We'll get there, Yes, indeed, we'll get there. And Steve
(40:05):
Bloom a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I think they're familiar with each other.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Yes, yes, I think they're friendly. You know, let's say that.
So if there isn't anything else, I think it's almost
time for Dare I say one of our if not
our favorite, let's go, So JC my man, you got
the floor what we got for fact check?
Speaker 9 (40:29):
Maybe all right, I got I got a lot of
stuff for you guys this week. No, no, no, just
just providing some background. I think you guys got everything right.
I just wanted to provide some background. One of the
things that I loved, and as you guys introduced yourselves
at the beginning of the podcast, is Specter. Obviously, Specter
(40:50):
is a ghost to the ghost Ship. I think I
watched all of season one without putting that together. So
I'm just going to put that on front Street right now.
Maybe I'm the only person on Earth who didn't pick
that up until episode ten, but.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I'm sure you're not, Jason.
Speaker 9 (41:06):
This is also the first canon appearance of the RX
twenty four droid, which we know from Star Tours and
that you know he has appeared in a book of
Boba Fat and a bunch of other media since. But
I believe this is the first canon appearance of that droid,
which is kind of cool. One of the things I
love watching, especially the Star Wars Animated, is that I
(41:29):
site read the arabsh language, so anytime it pops up
on screen, I like to read, like the Little Easter
eggs that whoever's putting in not that exciting. But in
this episode, there in Bay two C is written on
the docking bay wall and the crate that they're hiding
behind says Storage Rental on it.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
You just can read that.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, wow, this at NYU.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
I missed out on that. They've clearly like that.
Speaker 9 (42:01):
What you mean? I'm so nerdy that I taught myself.
I bought a monopoly game that had like a cipher
on it that like corresponded to the letters. I think
it was from the old West End Games book. And
in high school I took all of my class notes
in Arabesh. So even though it's been twenty six years,
(42:22):
I plus twenty six plus years, I still remember it.
I can still see it.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Jesse, your brain is a expressive No, you should be
like a codebreaker.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, you could be.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I thanks.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
So.
Speaker 9 (42:37):
I wanted to point out Visago rides in a V
thirty five Courier land Speeder, which is the same land
Speeder that Luke's aunt and uncle have on tattooing.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Too soon, So it's always too soon.
Speaker 9 (42:51):
The other things from the podcast today, John pointed out
the Aqualish language is similar to Rodian and hatise and
he is correct. That's right. And I actually I will
show this. We can drop this in show notes on
social media and stuff, but I wanted to show you, guys.
(43:15):
I wanted to show you guys. So this is the
map of the Star Wars galacy h of the Star
Wars Galaxy. And then if we zoom in on it
here you can see the circles. The top circle is
circled around now Huddah, which is the home world of
the Huts. And then we have and is kind of
(43:36):
the middle circle there, and then Rodia and O is
aqualish uh, and then Rodia is the uh the bottom
circle there, so they're all in about the same point.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Of For those who can't see, we're looking at basically
Miami Tallahassee.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
And yeah, so bush Guard is Disney World and uh.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
And j C's mohawk is really giving you the worst
to live. I wish you could see it. We're gonna
have to put that in bonus content, y'all, because that
could heal all all of humanity.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
We're gonna all have trading cards and for sure we're
gonna be pasturing JC and is awesome like Warhawk Mohawk
it's it's in your hair last episodes too, like, so
it's like that's gonna be a recurring thing. Jason past
j R two D two and C three PO.
Speaker 9 (44:25):
John, you mentioned that they're the only characters to appear
across all nine Skywalker Saga films. They're also in Rogue one.
That is correct. We talked about the age of R
two D two and C three PO, and there's a
little bit of I always like to refer back to
Star Wars Legends as well, because there's so many people
who loved that. According to Star Wars Legends, C three
(44:48):
PO was built one hundred and twelve years before the
Battle of Yaven. But as we found out in episode
you Know one, Episode two, Episode three, Anakin bought built
C three so he is about, you know, thirty two
years before the Battle of Yavin thirty two to thirty four.
(45:09):
It's ambiguous when Anakin actually brought him to life. We
also talked about droids being rebuilt and destroyed. Of course,
we know C three PO was destroyed on Cloud City
and rebuilt by Chewbacca, so yeah, that does happen. R
two D two was thirty two years before the Battle
of Yavin, so as we see him in this episode,
I think he's around twenty eight ish years old. He
(45:33):
apparently was destroyed in his twelfth year of being a
droid and was rebuilt on the planet Carrida, which was
an Imperial stronghold planet. And another little tidbit, R two
D two continues to get passed down throughout the Skywalker family.
In the future books and comic books, Cade Skywalker, which's
one hundred and thirty seven years after the Battle of Yavin,
(45:56):
still has R two D two and he's still going strong.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
And he looks great.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
That's amazing.
Speaker 9 (46:02):
And then we last thing, was you guys mentioned ad
at or at a t at st I know this
is a really fun debate amongst Star Wars fans. I
am firmly in the at At camp because I believe
the first time that that was ever mentioned was in
a toy commercial in the nineteen eighties for Kenner Toys,
(46:26):
and the kids in the toy commercial call it ad At,
not at a t see.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
I couldn't back it up, but I'm with you, so.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
I don't add at us. I guess at.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Luckily we keep this for the end so people stick around.
Speaker 9 (46:47):
So that's all we got for fact check. You guys,
you guys nailed it this week.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
Yes, all right, well that wraps up this one. Thank
you again JC for we love this fact check so much,
and thank you the Vanessa Tea and Taylor for sharing
stories because I love getting insight. I know what listeners
do too, And speaking of our listeners, thank you for listening.
Remember the rate us and leave a five star review,
leave a nice comment, and follow us at Potter Rebellion
on Instagram. We're going to post a lot of the
(47:11):
bonus content we're talking about, like the social clips and
Vanessa and Tia killing it on the red carpet like
stuff like that. So if you want to catch to that,
you go to Potter Rebellion and you can also write
to us at Potter Rebellion podcast at gmail dot com
because we would love to hear from you anything else.
I think this is when we push off.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
And thanks go too out see you next week.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts Producing,
Hosted by Vanessa Marshall, Tia Sirkar, Taylor Gray and John
Ley Brody Executive producer and in house star wars guru
Slash fact checker J c Riefenberg. Our music was composed
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Fraser of Neil Fraser Designs. Special thanks to Holly Free
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(47:56):
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