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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So when Dave Filoney pulled me aside and whispered in
my ear that they're going to bring back clones in Rebels,
it's like I and to tell nobody.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Then I immediately went back and.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Called Ashley and told her, which I shouldn't have done,
but I did, because it's like, what's Rex gonna do?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Rex is gonna tell Ahsoka what's up?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome everyone to Potter Rebellion. John Ley Brody here, your
friendly neighborhood moderator. Now we know you're excited to really
dive deep into season two Rebels, and believe me, so
are we. But today, instead of a recap, we have
a special episode for you with a very special guest.
And of course I'm lucky enough to be alongside what
I call the Rebels Big Three, starting with the Great
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and Powerful Fearlies, Leader of our Pod, the Captain that
makes it happen, r QB One, the Voice of Reason,
Ann Harrison, Doulah, Vanessa Marshall.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Hey, everybody, welcome Now.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Ancient Egyptians worship the likes of Ices and Hathor. But
here at Potter Rebellion, we have our own living icon,
the Allen iverson a mandelor the voices of being wren Tia,
Sir car Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Thank you for that. That made me feel very good.
Hi guys, welcome, thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And rounding out the starting lineup is a man who's
prettier than Princess Leah and smarter than Yoda, but like
Jennifer and the Block, he's still a low threat at heart.
The voice of Ezra Bridger Taylor Gray.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
What's up, guys, Thanks for listening, and now it's time
to introduce our very special guest for today, someone who
is such a titan of the voiceover world that to
simply refer to him as a voice actor just wouldn't suffice,
because this man's brain and vocal cords are like the
ultimate orchestra that has consistently created a symphony of iconic
voices for the ages.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Have you ever seen a cartoon, alien, zombie, animal, bog
robot or ghost that was probably him? If you watched
Nickelodeon in the nineties and saw guidance from a stone
faced guardian and a hidden temple, that was him too.
And you ever wonder what a complex carbohydrates sounded like?
He provided that answer. He's played alongside his airness himself
Michael Jordan, to help take down the Monstars, and he's
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also quite literally a one man army voicing the entire
bad Batch all the Clone Troopers, which of course includes
Captain Rex. Please welcome for the first hopefully many, many,
many many Potter Rebellion appearances, the legendary and unparalleled D
Bradley Baker.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That but thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Hi everybody, Hello, Hi d D.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Not over a platter of steak.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I know, I was thinking I'm a little hungry for
you too.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, we're starting to get we're more used to each
other in three dimensions, still not in two dimensions.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
It's true. We're so thrilled to have you on. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Yeah, I like we do a little research here. I
was looking.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
I always knew this, but you're in everything ever, Like
I've always talked you as like a pillar to other
actors and the voice acting world, and everyone knows that.
But it blew my own mind. That was already mind
blown knowing what you've done. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Thanks.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Yeah, yes, there's no question except for thank you for
coming on the show.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Of course, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I mean this, this was a really special show and
a special cast and one of the very last ensembles
that I'll probably ever work in as a voice actor.
You guys, I mean, it's such an interesting show from
a lot of different angles where you know, it was
the launch of Disney owning the franchise and starting anew
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and afresh, and it was kind of you know, touch
and go fear about how this is going to go.
Of course, it went beautifully beyond anyone's expectations, I think,
but it was also more than just a beautifully produced, cast, written,
directed show that really fulfills what's the best of what
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Star Wars can be. But it was also at the
end of this era of what voiceovers used to be,
which was an ensemble where the whole cast gets together
and gets to do the show. And that was a
very precious thing. I think it's part of why we
as a cast are still connected and why we still
have this drive to get together and and and to
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be together as a cast again, because you get into
that into acting because of that, you know, we like
to collaborate with storytelling and that's a three dimensional thing
and that's what voiceovers used to be.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But unfortunately, for the most part.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
That's gone with the win since COVID, But this show
is very much part of that, the end of that
legacy of what of our pocket of entertainment, which was
the ensemble record. And in this instance, it was just
such a such a favorable constellation of circumstances that made
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this show such an outstanding show.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I I just watched.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I just watched the two episodes where they brought back uh,
the old Clones and and and I was really struck
just by what great storytelling and and and I mean
all around.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's so good that you you you almost don't even
notice it how good it is.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It's it's the way that they what they do visually
in terms of how they move the story along, the
references to other movies and things.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I mean, they're like, there's Jaws.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
There's a lot of Jaws in this the slinging for
Jupa's episode. But it's just it's just such great fun
to uh, to dig back into that and to reconnect
with you guys here.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's it's a it's a real treat.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
For me, it's a treat for us too.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'll stop talking now.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I just like, no, please don't. That's why we want.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
This is your episode, D. So if anything, if we
can get the one man D Bradley Maker show, no
one's gonna be okay.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
I can start with a question that I've always been here.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
I find you to be one of the coolest, sweetest,
most talented people, and I've always been curious what got
you started knowing you studied philosophy right.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
In school and then you.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Obviously then had such a perfect acting for What brought
you to acting?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Acting? I started.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I started when they said you want an audition for
this musical in second grade. It was Oliver Twisted in
my school and I made I booked Oliver booked it.
I wouldn't call it booked it.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You cast as.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And and you know, off and on. I would do
plays and musicals when I was a kid, and I
just like doing it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I think it.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I think acting for me gave me a sense of
community and connection. And it was also as a kid
doing theater where for the most part, no money was
involved whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It was just done for the enjoyment, which is.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Really how it should all start.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That I.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Not only got a connection to people, and I think
maybe an acceptance and there's kind of the acceptance from
the audience. That's really gratifying. But you also, as a kid,
you learn a lot about other humans who are older
than you and how the world works. And I don't
think there's any other I think there's anything else a
kid can do where they are on the same level
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of expectation and importance and responsibility and value as an
adult or as twenty year old's or you know, as
a ninety year old or whatever is.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Everybody in a show.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Is equally valued and equally important, no matter what's the
size of your role. That's part of the ethic that
you learn in doing theater. And so I think from
all of that, I got a lot out of it,
and so I just kept doing it. But it was
always something for me, uh, you know, live performing, whether
it's singing in a choir or doing a play or musical,
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and then and then later kind of branching out into
you know, open mic nights in college and stand up comedy,
improv summer Shakespeare, children's theater, singing telegrams, theme parks. You know,
it's like this is all fun to me. And then
some of it paid and then some of it didn't.
But I just would keep doing it if it was fun,
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and it gradually narrowed down into voice acting because I
didn't I really wasn't angling to be an actor per se.
I didn't think I was that kind of a creature
at all, and I certainly didn't know anything about voice acting.
And I liked doing I liked improv, and I liked
live kind of more entertainer type performing comedy and stand
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up and that kind of stuff. And there's a flexibility
that voice acting calls for, and a lot of improv
is very important to have those antenna up and running.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And so.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Anyway, I was messing around with this kind of stuff
in college. But also it's like I'm going to study something.
It's like, oh, I think philosophy is cool. It's like,
it's like, what are you talking about. I'm like, yeah,
I like it. I think it's I think it's interesting,
it's cool.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I still do.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I was like, I'm sitting around reading books on nietzche
The this past month.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Just because I like it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But it was never I never really pursued any of
this with a goal or let alone a career or
money in mind.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Ever, It's never ever been that.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's always just been doing what I like to do,
and then you know, maybe favoring it if I can
get paid for it. But still I'm still just doing
stuff I like to do, and sometimes, you know, for
no money at all, because I think it's important to
remain an amateur. I think, I think if you're an artist,
even a professional artist, you can't let money or success
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eclips the artist heart that you started with and you've
got to keep that burning and alive somehow. And so
I'm still I'm still just kind of living that that
kind of curiosity of creativity and social storytelling and so yeah.
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So the shorter version is I just kind of stumbled
into voice acting over a period of about thirty years,
and then I said it's going to be voice acting
because it's more fun than on camera. I don't have
to memorize lines, I don't have to sit in the
trailer all day. It's air conditioned, and it's great variety,
and you can do it for a much longer period
of time, whereas with on camera, you know, you're you're
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kind of tied to what you got, you know, unless
you're Andy serkis.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Right, that's so cool.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Thank you for sharing all that, Dan, that's so insightful
and so important for people to remember to be the
eternal student, like you're never done learning and you're never
finished with that sort of education. And I think it's
fitting that you're reading Nietzschee because you know, from the
noble philosopher to you being a noble soldier like Captain Rex.
I think it's all very fitting there. But I want
to take it back a little bit because we had
askually xstein on here a few weeks back, and she
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had talked about how shocked everyone was obviously when Rebels
Notels Clone Wars abruptly ended, you know, And so can
you walk me back to when you get the call that, okay,
Captain Rex is coming back, you're going to be on
rebels and tie that into meeting these three wonderful humans
and what And I want to hear the four of
you talk about what it was like for that first
meeting and getting that ensemble started that you know, do
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you alluded to that's so valuable?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, let's see, I mean I was originally doing a
minor character Constantine in Rebels up front, and they'd sprinkle
me in there, but there were no clones and no
talk of any clones and it was always it is
always said that the pipeline, the creative pipeline, is smashed.
We cannot put it back together. There's no reassembling Frankenstein.
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It's not coming back, no Clone Wars. And it's like,
that's really sick ad I everyone really wanted. It's like,
we recorded two seasons that weren't even animated, which included
the Bad Batch actually the original Bad Batch arc. And
so when Dave Filoney pulled me aside and whispered in
my ear that that they're going to bring back clones
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in in in Rebels, it's like, I and and to
tell nobody.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Then I immediately went back and called Ashley told her.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Which I shouldn't have done, but I did, because like,
what's Rex gonna do?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Rex is gonna tell Ahsoka what's up? So uh so.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah so so then so then uh, season two comes
around happily, uh Disney.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I think they assembled a.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Viable and and really competent creative engine for this new start,
this new beginning, this new hope for animated Star Wars,
and it was going very well, and they get picked
up for another seasons back when the seasons were like
twenty two episodes by the way, which is like that
doesn't happen anymore either. And yeah, so we're going to
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go back in after we've dealt with a really fantastic
kind of rapaccory type Darth Vader in the first two episodes,
which are just amazingly good.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's so great.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And so we're back with clones and so and it's like, oh,
but they're older clones now, and one Gregor, we want
to take him a different direction. Gregor had an arc
back in the Clone Wars and then he get you know,
there's a big explosion. You think he's dead, but you're
not sure, but he's back and and and Dave and
the writers wanted to adjust his personality and so so
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here I am with this wonderful cast, uh, and we're
going to go on missions now, and I have to
come up with.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
This kind of this this this.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Clone that we already know, but now he's older and
he's kind of he's a little off, a little excuse.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So I was I was very insecure about that, but
I think it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I think it worked, and it was it added kind
of a little bit of levity and I think, uh,
a little bit of goofiness actually to it.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
That that was kind of nice to add to the action.
But it was great.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I mean, I was already kind of I felt kind
of a side character in the cast, not not one
of the main principles, and not really the central story
that's playing out, which is fine. I'm I'm I'm happy
just to do three lines and to and.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
To watch the others do all the hard the heavy lifting.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But but what a thrill to to to to bring
back the old Lions and to get it, let them
out of their cage and and release them back out
into the galaxy again, and and and what a what
a ride, and and and what a what a culmination
of storytelling the show ended up being. I I was
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so I was so thrilled to to to to be
able to to ride along and to help out with
all of that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
It was really really very exciting.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And I I mean, I just I just watched the
two episodes where Rex and the Boys are are back,
and then I had to go back and watch the
first episode of Bad Batch because it's it's it's like, well,
Canaan is really working through a lot of stuff here,
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and this is part of the beginning of the Bad Batch.
We need to go back a little further and I
want to watch that again. So it's very interesting to
see because he's really pumping the brakes on these clones,
and he's got a lot of issues going on, which
we all know about now having seen that first episode
of the Bad Batches, like what what actually went down
on how that played out? So uh, I mean it's interesting.
(15:45):
I just how how how well written and well connected
all these stories are.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Going. I just can't shut up. I'm sorry, No, this
is why you're here.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I'm thrilled to hear your insight.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
I'll never forget that star celebration when they played the
trailer for the new season and your character came on
and the entire building just went nuts. And I rewatched
those as well, and I wish you could see me.
It was like Christmas.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I was like.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Over and like with every line. I was so all
of it worked, all of it. But as a Clone
Wars fan, for me personally, your return in this world
in terms of your history with Ahska, it was so
enriching and pleasing and satisfying and just uplifting. And I
will never forget that celebration. It was so special.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, that was exciting and it was. I mean, they
the fans were nuts.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
They so wanted that, they wanted that reunion and it's like,
bring those old dudes back and let's let's go.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
That was such a cool moment. I mean it's been
years and years and I have the memory of an
amni jiak, but I remembered that moment vividly. Like the
electricity from the crowd, I mean the crowd and the
crowd went wild is like an understatement. It was just
like it was like pandemonium. It was. It was so
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thrilling and such a treat to see how delighted and
excited the fans were rightfully, so, you know, it was
that was a really special moment.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's a real testimony, I think, just to how beautifully
written these shows are and how beautifully made and crafted
the storytelling is. It's there's just no there's no fat
left on that chicken.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You know, it's just that's a weird before.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I think.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Brought that one out, okay, but it's you know that
it's it's so striking to me is the it's the
economy of storytelling that the television format imposes that really
benefits the story. It really benefits the show creators just
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to move that story along to make it clear.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Uh, sometimes it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Moves a little it's almost a little too nimble in
how it passes because often, you know, like for me personally,
it's like I want to hang on to this establishing
shot for like another twenty seconds and just look at
this world or or this spaceship.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Usually.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
That's one thing that always strikes me about Star Wars
is that, like, like no other franchise of anything I've
ever seen, is like I want to look at that ship.
That is every time. It's like, you never it's like,
that's just a space show. It's like, look at that ship,
look at look at all the look at how it functions.
And it's like that looks really beautifully real. And just
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the attention attention to details like that and the lighting
and and and and and how the music weaves in
in such a cinematic way. It's just it's so impressive
to me. And and so this is beautiful, kind of perfected,
polished jewel of a story that you know, it's just
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it's it's irresistibly good, and it just kind of is
this everlasting gobstopper of an experience that people just they
just can't leave because it's it's so beautiful and so good.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, I have a question for you, D. I have
a lot of questions for you. But when we were
just talking about that moment at celebration, obviously you know
the Clones and specifically Captain Rex are so beloved by
Star Wars fans. Clone Wars fans, Rebels fans, it's bad
Batch fans Star Wars fans. And I'm curious. You know,
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you are prolific. Anyone that feels like looking up D's
IMDb page, I incoura you to do so if you have,
it'll take you a minute. Yeah, but I'm curious, and please,
you know, don't be modest and also speak freely. But uh, like,
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what other fandoms are you a part of or you know,
like you've played. I was gonna say hundreds, but now
I think about it, Probably thousands of characters, right, wouldn't
you say that?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Probably so if you count all every all of them. Yeah, yeah,
it's a delivery guy or whatever.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah, so thousands out of thousands of voices, thousands of characters. Uh,
do you does anything rival? I guess I should say,
like the the how the fans feel about those, these characters,
the Clones maybe specifically Captain Rags, all of them.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Really.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, Well, for my for me, with all that I've
ever done, I mean, the the two projects to talk
about which you're which are both Dave Filoni projects, uh,
would be Avatar the Last Airbender and and the Star
Wars stuff. Those those are both universes that are fully
fleshed out, beautifully written, utterly unique, and that speak.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Of the to the human experience in a way.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
That's that's fun, that's affecting, that's heartbreaking, that's that's insightful.
With characters that are you know, that you feel, that
you know and that you relate to, whose story arcs
that the fans deeply connect into, you can find that
in in in many realms where you may not even
think that's what that that people would get that deeply
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affected by it, you know, like my Little Pony or
something like that, But but they do. They they do
in all realms. So I'm not just saying that these
are the only ones for everyone, but but for me
personally and from what I see and from what I
have done, that it would be the Star Wars universe
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and then the Last Airbender universe where the fans are
they're deeply loyal and and and these shows really speak
to their lives in a way that.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Stand out.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And yeah, I mean that those are the two shows
for me that I'll just I'll never be in something
better than those. Possibly something is good, but I don't
think I'll be in anything better than that.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I don't. I think that's kind of the high bar.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Well, I single handedly will be the whole fandom for
Space Jam for you, because I must have seen that
movie last time we were at dinner and you said that.
I remember it like blew in my mind. I've missed everything.
It took me a second right now of realize you're
not taking the Blue James Cameron Avatar.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Right, no, no, no, no, yeah, see, I missed it all.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Space Jam dude, one hundred out of ten.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Let laugh at that duck.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Oh my god, I mean, Michael Jordan, it's the goat
you got to do. That was like a religion for
my brother and I growing up.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, that was a that was a fun.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Kind of a freak out of a movie that they
from from like the moment that they said let's make
this movie to the moment that it opened was about
a year and a half, which, if you're familiar with
making that kind of a movie, is insane.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And and and and.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
It was only because, I think because Ivan Reightman was
at the Helm and he had the connections and the
wherewithal in Hollywood to kind of push that over the
finish line so so that the merchandise and target would
flow by holiday time. But but yeah, that was That's
(23:54):
a fun one to go back to. Is still basically
works for the most part, very well. Kind of against
all odds that that was. That was quite the worldwide
the worldwide scramble to to get that one finished. But uh,
but that was early in my career and I was
all button eyed, and you know, a young idiot.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I'm an older idiot, and you know, it's just you. You.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
If you've got talent and luck, then you might bump
into a unicorn that you get to ride around the
block every once in a while. And that was that
was definitely one.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, that's a great because I grew up in Chicago,
and you know, I saw a lot of the nineties
bulls firsthand. I got to meet Michael Jordan when I
was thirteen, and the phenomena of that we'll just never
see again for a variety of factors that I you know,
you know, just because if it really wasn't lightning in
a bottle like that kind of fame, and you know,
because he was literally the most famous person on the planet,
(24:58):
not just the best best athlete, like he was the
most famous human being, like the entire universe, which was
such a phenomena. You don't see that really much anymore.
But my question is because you know, obviously the legend
mel Blank, fellow legend, you're a legend in mel blank
like he was known to really do Daffy Duck? So
when how did that role come about? And you know,
how do you go about taking on a role like
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Daffy Duck which people know what Daffy Duck looks like,
they know what he sounds like, and I would imagine
it goes beyond just imitating, like how did you find
your Daffy Duck through your channels?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well, I think my basic constitution, for better or for
worse is is pretty close to Daffy Duck. I mean,
I'm not a part of me that I would call
benevolent chaos, and then another part of me and it's
like a megalamaniacal, deluded, ridiculous person. And I have that
(25:59):
with in me, that's right at the surface to begin with.
Then my, my, my flavor of being an actor or
a performer or entertainer is very improvisational and and and
and when you're young and ignorant, you're not afraid. And
I was that coming into this. I didn't really have
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much of a resume in Hollywood, but I had good
improv experience and I could lock into this character. I
might have tried Bugs Bunny, but I don't think I
have the the worldly moxie to really do Bugs Bunny.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
But Daffy Duck that one felt right.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
And so, you know, just like with anything in Hollywood,
you're you're throwing some audition and it's it could be
anything from this is nothing, I don't even know what
this is to this is the biggest thing in the
world that's come and you don't even have a chance,
but you know why not. And so so I came
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into it, as I said, I wasn't afraid. And it
seemed clear from the auditions that they were open to.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Kind of a looser.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Audition and improvising and having fun with it, which they should,
because if you're just if you're just replicating, it's flat.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And they didn't want flat.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
They didn't want what they had at the time, which
was not It did not have that deviant brilliance that
that you associate with with Looney Tunes, with with like
Chuck Jones, like the best of the best Looney Tunes.
So Ivan Rightman, who is a friend of comedy and
knows that good comedians and good improv can can not
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only write help write his story or his movie, but
can solve the ending that may not exist. That they
were open to anybody who could just kind of bring
that character to life. And so I just started listening
to a lot of Daffy, a lot of mel Blanc,
and just kind of doing my version of it until
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they finally said you're the one, which again I didn't
know enough to be intimidated or frightened, which was an advantage,
it turns out, because you know, sometimes the more you know,
the worse it is, because you start setting up boundaries
and you're afraid of stepping on toes, or you get
afraid of if it's this kind of daffy or that
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kind of daffy, and I didn't really, I really wasn't
encumbered by that kind of fear, and and you know,
and I was young, and there's a there's a youthfulness
to Daffy that I used to have, and and so
it all just kind of came together.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I was very lucky and happily.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Ivan Rerightman wanted a fresh, fun take on these characters.
He didn't want staid and old and what they already have,
or just hire the people that you normally hire, which
is there's a lot of pressure to do that in
a corporate situation, especially when you have a corporate figurehead
like the Looney Tunes characters, where they want to use
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the people that they have been using, and then there's
a corporate consistency to it and all of that. And
you know, Looney Tunes is just like not is very
non corporate if it's done right.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Thank you so much for that.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
How did you What was.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
The recording for that?
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Like?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Were you in a booth by yourself?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
No? No, Ivan Rightman would have us.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
We'd be in the sound studio studio together, it'd be
the ensemble there and then often we would just riff
on lines. Most of the laugh lines in space jam
we improvised, you know that they were not in the script.
But that's your job, you know, as a comedian, as
a performer, as an improviser, is you want to make
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this as good as it can be. And so every
run is like a little experiment at what you can
how you can spin this, how you can have fun
with this, how you can fulfill the story, the or
the beat, and Ivan Rightman was very open to that,
and it was it was a very odd process because
we would do our thing and they would animate it,
and then he, because he comes from on camera feature,
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wants to go back in and like adjust this line
a little bit, or he wants to go a do
a reshoot. But when you do that with animation, you
have to re record it. Then you have to reanimate it,
which takes weeks or months to do. And so you
kind of had this giant, you know, project that much
of it which was animation, that was being run by
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someone who's not an animation guy. As it was put
to me. In in on camera you shoot it first,
then you edit it. In animation, you edit it first,
then you shoot it. And so it's the whole process
was very fraught in terms of just getting the thing done.
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So it's kind of a miracle that it came out. Well,
first of all, they finished it, but the second of
all it it was as good as it was just
because of this of this, you know, this this crazy
process of of of of micro tweaking and fixing uh
animation animation lines, uh, which they can do on South
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Park now, of course, but that this ain't. This ain't
South Park like full animation with this kind of Roger
Rabbit dynamic of live action.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Plus it's I mean it's crazy, crazy, difficult.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, and the textil holds up and everything too. I
actually watched it last week.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, I want to go back to something, uh, because
you were talking about the fandom and and I love
hearing all insight on that because we uncover a little
bit more week after week after week. But I want
to go back to some of that Vanessa said, like literally,
I think the first episode of the podcast where it
was something d that you said to Vanessa and Vanessa
you can elaborate on this where you told Vanessa and
I'm paraphrasing, like welcome to like a different chapter for
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like welcome to the rest of your life sort of
thing could you too, Like I know we've been wanting
to kind of peel back the curtain on that, Vanessa,
and we've sidebared on it. I'd love for you to
talk about that moment and also, Vanessa, for you like
when like it's one thing hearing the words, but when
did you actually like actually see like oh wow, like
he told me this, but I couldn't have never anticipated
it was actually this.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Well, it's interesting. Dee and I have worked on a
number of things together. I believe Spectacular Spider Man was one,
and were you in Young Justice as well.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I believe you did some stuff in that, but I
can't tell you what I did. But I too, Guy.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
No, we had been sort of in other sort of
ensemble situations, and I obviously I'm a huge fan of
the Clone Wars, but I remember when the Clone Wars
sort of abruptly ended. That was like a moment of silence,
and then this Rebels thing started launching, and I think
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you were still in the phase where you weren't sure
what your involvement was quite yet in it, Like we
didn't know that Rex was coming back yet. And I
remember I think we were at some outside studio and
you said welcome to the first day of the rest
of your life, something along those lines, that this is
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a very impactful like you said, this is a unicorn
that you get to ride around the block, This is
a huge deal, and that you will never be the
same because of the storytelling, because of the Star Wars fandom,
because of how much everything you've just said previous to this.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
How.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
Wonderful it is to be a part of such great
storytelling essentially, And I think, when did I I don't
know if you even remember uttering, but do you at all?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, I think I said something like you're something like
you know you're about to get on a train that's
just never going to stop rolling. It's you're on it
for life. You're riding that the Star Wars train.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Well, when I think when I was at Star Wars
Celebrated or no Star Wars Weekends, and Peter Mayhew was there,
and my first action figure was Chewy, And I've said
this before, I couldn't look him in the eye because
I kept seeing Chewy's eyes and I didn't know if
I was cried. I didn't know what it was going
to do, so I just tried to act normal and
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walk away which in turn was almost dismissive and rude.
So then I decided to confront my fears. And he's
a lovely human and his whole family as well. But
it was his birthday and they had made a millennium
falcon birthday cake for him that they wheeled out at
the end. James Arnold Taylor was host this thing, and
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we all got mouse ears and Peter walked for the
first time up to the cake to blow his candles out,
and I still get so emotional. I was just like,
what is happening like? I needed a moment, you know
what I mean that for me? I mean I don't
know about a train that keeps going. But I must
tell you, as a little girl who played with a
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chewy figure, to see this man who had had surgery
to be able to participate in the film that they
were subsequently releasing, this was This was huge And I'm
cold chilling backstage eating a millennium falcon cake with Peter
Mayhew's family.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
What is happening like?
Speaker 8 (35:39):
This was a moment for me where you know, you
have those like existential Ito was reading Nietzsche, you know,
last week, but also as a teenager where you think like,
what is this about? What does this even mean? And
then you kind of hang in there, and then you
get these unicorn moments and suddenly it was all worth
it to kind of hate in there. For that very
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moment I felt the weight of that. That was the
first profound moment. There were many since then, but that
was the biggest sort of explosive moment for me in
terms of understanding what you meant that this was different.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
It's very unique. I mean, Star Wars. Star Wars is
a very unique thing, and and there's a lot of
other universes that or mythologies or whatever you want to
call them, that that people really kind of build into
their lives or they build their lives around. But I
don't know if anything really I mean, you know, Star Trek,
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Harry Potter, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Even the airport of the Rings.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, yeah, but I don't know, I don't know. I
don't know what to compare Star Wars to. And it's
it's just wonderful to be to be part of an
iteration of that that's just so so vital and successful
and satisfying, meaningful to to so many people, to so
many kinds of people. You know, it's not just you know,
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teenage boys or or you know whatever. But but it's
like this is a broad range that that touches from
young all the way to very old, and it's it's
a beautiful thing to to to be able to as
a voice hacked, or to to be able to enjoy
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that affirmation firsthand at conventions nowadays, but but as a
cast still and to still have that connection that that
we've got to having worked on it and to know
each other like this, because like I'm saying, it's like
if they you know, they any shows that they do
now or in any universe, it's mostly going to be
recorded remotely and separate, and you're not going to have
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this kind of connection as as a cast unfortunately.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
I remember another time when we were up at the ranch.
We had all gone up there and.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Uh, we had acquired I think what you called victuals.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
We had snacks and uh, I like old time words
like that.
Speaker 8 (38:15):
I love vittles, yes, but we were having a grand
old time up there and we didn't finish all the
vittles and we hid a bottle of I think it
was bourbon, but the we that hit.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
It was deep.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
And we need to like return to you know, see
if that's still there, or or perhaps someone else had
a great weekend. But I remember going to the airport.
You had just found out about the possibility of things,
and I was within earshot of that conversation, and that
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was that was one heck of a ride home. Yeah,
I think we were going over like the Golden Gate
Bridge and I just was like, thank you God.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I was so happy.
Speaker 8 (39:03):
I mean, it was like a brand new world, like,
oh that just that's a dream come true for and
and who could ever conceive I mean, you had already
recorded that that arc, but to see it in its
full realization with the bad batch and all that you
did with tech and uh, just the majesty of it.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
It was just truly brilliant. Thank you for everything, everything,
all of it, and the ride to the airport. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
By the way, for those of y'all who are listening,
the ranch that Vanessa's talking about is Skywalker Ranch up
in nor.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
I'll trying to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
And yes, and I'm sorry to report I think I've
told you guys this, but I went back after maybe
like a year or two after that that time that
visit when Dee hit the bottle of bourbon and I
looked forward and it wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So the flower vasion, yes, like a chimneys.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
We've also been enjoying it, so that's true.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
That's true. But in my I recall it being very
very like well hidden, which.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
You know, was it was hard.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I tried to do a good job.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
You did. I almost think I might be making this
up or like romanticizing it, but I feel like you
had found like a brick in the in the fireplace,
this grand fireplace, there was like a brick that was loose,
and you like took it out and you were like,
I'm going to hide the bourbon inside this and then
replace the brick. No one will ever find it. And
then I went back and I looked for it and
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it was gone.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
It's even funner me imagine you trying to like, no,
I swear we needed goonies. We needed to make like
a little gooney to get at it.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Move.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Yeah. Well those were That was a good time, good time.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
That was fun. That that was that was that was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
It was a it was a feeling of relief for
me personally that in the New Disney Universe where it's like, oh,
it's going to be actually well marketed and supported with
merchandise and everything else, because Clone Wars, lord knows, was not.
It was kind of the bastard step child that was
that was consigned at nine pm on a Friday night,
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you know, on Cartoon Network, which which didn't really want
to run.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Oh well, I mean Clone Wars not the Rebels could run. Really,
I mean, we we owe our. I think a lot
of our success to the fact that Clone Wars existed
before us.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, it all felt connected.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
And then gradually, of course, once it all kind of
went to streaming and all that that the fans were
able to fully reconnect and then go back and then
and then now it's you know, it is what it is.
I mean, there's a there's a kid that parked my
car a couple of nights ago. You know, I was
just asking them. I don't know how I do it,
but maybe it's just pure vanity. It's like, what do
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you think about Star Wars or or what movies are
you interested?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
What kind of shows you like?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
And he starts talking about Star Wars and how much
he loves Clone Wars.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
You know, it's like, oh, well, I know those guys.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
But do you just start talking as Captain Rex and
see what happens?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's just that stupid kind of
show off stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I can do.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
It actually amazed me when we first succorded, when when
we first met you and Vanessa and know each other
and work together. But like, I don't know, thinking about
it for me, if I was coming in, I would
already it would already be daunting to do more than
one character, but I would probably be like, can I
just do it? Passes this character, then it passes this
character you were doing scenes because I also watched that
third episode of the second season, and I didn't realize
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how back to back it was you if I mean
my memory is correct, you just went through it on
your own. Yeah, I got it, Like I can, I
can swap between it. It was like, I mean, you
were you were just having a conversation with yourself a
whole time. But it was unbelievable how there was like
a nuance to what you were bringing to each character,
but you were switching in and out of it, Like
I mean, the closest I've seen is this Andrew Scott
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Uncle Vanna thing where he's trying all the characters of
Uncle Vaughn yea. But he's it's just as soon as
you want to drop, the others picked up and it's
not missing a second and you were doing the same thing,
which was it was very cool for me to watch.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, thanks, It's it's it's just if you see the
characters in their full specificity, then it's just like an
old television dial where you just just snap between one
and the other and they're because they're different people, and
that's that's it's, it's it's it seems more of a
magic trick with the Clones because they they look more
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similar and they seem more similar visually as opposed to
like the Bad Batch, which you.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Know they look very different.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
And and so yeah, I mean, my the the thing
that's that that it hinges upon is that I have
to see them as different people and they have to
have a different character, a different tone, a dynamic that
I can just jump to whatever part of the dynamic
is talking right now. And it's it's actually a little
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a little more nuanced and trickier with just with with
clones with REGs as opposed to the Bad Batch, which
it's actually easier with the Bad Batch because they're they're
more distinct from each other. It's actually easier to jump there.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Hey, Potter Bun listeners, John Lee Brody here. So we
were having such a great, free flowing conversation with D
that we broke this up into two parts. So tune
in next week for part two of our chat with
D Bradley Baker. Until then, cue the music. Potter Rebellion
is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts Producing, hosted by
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Executive producer and in house Star Wars guru slash back
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