"Spark of Rebellion Pt. 2" (S1E2)

Lightsabers and Wookiees and Holocrons, oh my! The fun continues with a discussion about 'Spark of Rebellion Pt. 2" and how it all doubled as an introduction to the world of Star Wars for newbies while paying homage to the original films; setting the course for what would ultimately be the Star Wars Rebels journey. And, like Kanan Jarrus on the Spice Mines of Kessel, Vanessa, Tiya and Taylor "let you all in on the secrets" as they share more behind the scenes stories!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think you said lightsabers are the coolest, and just

(00:03):
as a person who yes, as a person who plays
in Mandalorian on TV, I'm just gonna have to say
jet packs.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Way, no way, no way.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hey everyone, this is tser Car, voice of Sabine Run
Specter five, and I am here with my friends.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Hey, what's up. It's Vanessa Marshall Harrison Doula from Star
Wars Rebels, also known as Spector two, and I got
another Specter for you.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Spector six, Taylor Gray, Ezra Bridger. And with us we have.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
I am John Ley Brody, non spector but full on
moderator for Pod of Rebellion. Welcome everybody. So we are
going over spark A Rebellion Part two again Disney Plus
sequencing season one, episode two. Even so, technically speaking, if
you're going by the original sequencing, it was a TV
movie where we're going by the Disney Plus sequencing. And yeah,

(01:07):
I guess I shouldn't waste any time you liked my
recap last week. I was very happy. I felt not
that I seek out external validation anymore. I've done a
lot of therapy to sort that out, but it was
still nice to get that external validation and flip Taylor
Gray's Han solo bad feeling into a good feeling.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
Which I've got a good feeling about this song.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Become You went from Hans solo to Harrison Ford's character
on shrinking. You just kind of came like, yeah, I
guess it's okay. Sure, yeah, sure, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Going to your recap. Thanks for coming, Harrison, I appreciate it.
All right. Here comes the recap for Spark Rebellion Part two.
I don't know why I'm talking like William Shatter, go
with it. We pick up from where part one left off,
with the Ghost being bored like the tanted for and
the new Hope, and Ezra is still unsure of what
to do. He ultimately decides to follow Harris's suggestion and
is able to warn to others just in time, while

(02:04):
also showing off his cosmic bart Simpson slingshot with the
help of Sabine Chopper, disabling the artificial gravity by the way,
rebels the at first alien Romulus. The Ghost crew is
able to float out of Harm's way only one problem.
Ezra gets left behind. While in the Imperial Sale, Ezra's
questioned by Agent Kallis, who is determined to set a
trap for the Ghost Crew when they inevitably come to
his rescue. However, Ezra is convinced that no one is

(02:26):
coming to his aid, and in a moment of frustration,
he throws the holocrown he's stole from Canaan's room against
the wall. To his surprise, it opens up and we
hear the familiar voice of the guy who once dated
Duchess the team. Since he feels no one will come
to his rescue, Ezra decides to use his own sabinusts
to engineer his own escape, but then, after eavesdropping on comms,
he learns that the Ghost Crew did come back for him.

(02:47):
Azra is reunited with the Ghost Crew and they narrowly
escape the grips of Agian Callous. While back on the
Ghost it appears Ezra will be taken home, but he
reveals another bit of information he came across the wile
eavesdropping on comms, the location of the in prison Wookie.
The Ghost Crew makes their way to the Spice minds
of Kessel, but are then ambushed by Agent Callous, and
this leaves Canaan no choice, but the reveal that like

(03:08):
Gretchen Wiener's big hair and mean girls. He is full
of secrets. The big secret is revealed when he courageously
walks towards the Imperial Troopers and by the way, Repelsentive
First Wonder Woman hashtag represented first and reveals what he's
been hiding under that perfect ponytail is that he is
a Jedi. As Canaan fights off the troopers, Ezra feels
inspired to rescue a young Wookie from a Stormtrooper, and

(03:30):
the process shows off a vertical leap that would make
Vince Carter jealous. Thanks to the bravery and textbook teamwork
of the crew, the Wookies are now all reunited and safe,
and they all say their goodbyes, and now it would
appear that it is also Ezra's time to leave. But
when that moment comes, he feels a conflict like Vader
and return to the Jedi. But what looks like a
goodbye actually turns into Ezra having two pass to choose from.

(03:51):
Once again. Behind door number one, Canden offers Ezra a
chance to learn the ways of the forest, or he
can choose door number two and stay on the thought.
Before we get his name answer, we are treated to
a montage a company by the voice of Obi Wan
Kenobi with an inspiring message that of course is bookend
with the moral words and made the force fee with you.
And as Obi Wan's voice fades away, we see Ez
back on the ghosts and evidently chose door number one.

(04:14):
The episode ends with Agent Kallius be in a total
tattle tale and in forming an inquisitor of the Jedi
he encountered. And it would now appear that, like the
eighties song by Glenn Frey, the heat is on this
rebel squad.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Wow, we are a mean girls podcast.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
As appreciable all the references. I especially love that Vince
Carter reference.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
We love our sports on this podcast.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
We'll go now.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Get some sports fans on. Here are some athletes who
are Star Wars fans.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
There's a lot of them out there. I know Victor
Victorina is one of them.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
So we're gonna be I vote for a live podcast
at some point here where we can bring various sort
of notorious athletes onto about their their fandom with Star Wars.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
I would love it if we could do. You know how,
like during the NBA playoffs or the like Super Bowl,
there's always like people saying Hey, I'm so from this show,
Like I feel like we're going to position ourselves like, hey,
we're the Potter Rebellion. You're watching the NBA Finals. I'm
just gonna put it out there.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's gonna matthes that that's it's because I'll be watching regardless.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I'd like, yeah, anywhere there, Yeah, that would be amazing.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Super Bowl. We're gonna be at the super Bowl one
of these years. Yeah, I'm just going to put it
out there as well, just all all the things, all
the sports things, because we do love our sports here.
So initial thoughts, I know that, what's your initial thoughts
watching this? We went over the last week. On last
week's episode, we talked a lot about behind the scenes,
but I feel like the second part of this is
where the story really comes together. I think we all

(05:46):
have probably the same favorite part of this episode that
we can get into. And I think it's such a
great moment because you're because we we we we drop
these breadcrumbs, especially when Ezra is snooping around the ship
and he finds these artifacts, like Okay, when are we
going to get it? Like are they are? Are they
going to make us wait till the mid season? Finale.
But I feel like we do get everything we want,

(06:07):
uh in the second part, and it ties it all together.
It's really cool.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Should we jump to it or should we wait?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Well, we might as well we can jump.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I have one question today, you know, like Harry Potter
Goblet of Fire is that's my favorite because there's like
a sports at the quidditch thing in Star Wars?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Is there ever a is it pod racing? Is there ever?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Like?

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Do you know what I'm saying, like a eventized competition.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
I guess pot racing would be.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, I would say pod racing. I mean at the
colin JC early.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I guess the game they played to the like chess
like game is Deeric.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Maybe it's like I had to ask, it's got to
be pod racing. I think that's the only crowd sure.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
And I just want to say, like, I know people
have their opinions of episode one, but that pod racing
scene and Phantom Menace is awesome. I love that scene
and it's I think it's a great sequence. It's everything
you kind of want out of an action sequence. And yeah,
maybe I don't know. This is a deep pull back
in the day. This is my. My favorite comedian of
all time is Richard Pryor. And I'm wearing a Richard

(07:15):
Pryor shirt. Funny enough. And he had a sketch comedy
show and he did one called the Star Wars Bar
you can find it on YouTube. And he's talking to
somebody and I know, I don't know. I'm pretty sure
this isn't cannon to Star Wars. But he's talking to
something about No, like, hey, Garon had this money. I
know you like this guy, but he had a laser
bat so I don't know. Maybe this I'm bregating in
JC homework before the end of the show. Is there

(07:37):
some sort of laser baseball in the Star Wars cannon.
Maybe we'll find out at the end of the show.
I guess.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, apologies, let's jump to the That's a great question, though,
I just was curious.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
I had no idea.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
No, when you said it out loud, like, oh, like,
I'd never like, I didn't even think about that. That's
a now I've really want to know I had.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
This is a little slightly off topic, but slightly referencing
what you were just talking about. I had to play
quidditch in a movie where I actually happened to play
a die hard Star Wars fan. My character is a
diehard Star Wars fan, and we happened to play quidditch.
And I am not athletic, unlike you go on this.

(08:25):
I'm a dancer. I've been dancing since I was two,
But I mean hand eye coordination. Nope, don't got it.
So we were shooting. It was a movie called The Internship,
and I play this character.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Name It's so good.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's obsessed with a cause playing slave grolea. So that
was funny because it happened right before I got this job.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
But yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
And we were shooting in Atlanta. It was like ninety
eight degrees that day, and we had to play quidditch
and I'm just I who I had to take so
many We did so many takes because of me and
everyone else in the scene, Dylan O'Brien, Owen Wilson, Josh Brenner,
also a Star Wars actor and a huge fan of

(09:14):
Star Wars, Vince Vaughan. Everyone was good except me, and
so I sort of was the reason why we had
to keep doing take after take because I had to
score and I really had to score and anyway, but
it's just hard, guys, it is hard.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
That's so funny when you scored to know and go, wow,
probably you really.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Didn't stalk like that.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
That's really how he talks vinces like, you can do
better than that. You can do it. I believe in you.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
That definitely happened. I digress. I'm so sorry. One of
my favorite moments in Star Wars, not just Star Wars Rebels,
but all of Star Wars happens in this episode.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
But we can talk about it later, because.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Let's talk about it now because I feel like everybody's
thinking the same thing so much. Oh are you really?

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay, So you know, like you were saying, there's this
like we're being teased with this idea of like okay,
wait a minute, wait, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
It won't be right back after this.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
And so you're like, wait, what's going on? What's this
slight labor? Who does this belong to? With it?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
You know?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
And then there's like some force force sensitivity and all that,
and then it's it's funny and it's like goosebump inducing
where Ezra says, you know, like, are you gonna let
me in all the secret? What's the what's the like
we're gonna run a point twenty two. What was it
to pick up? And then he says, kid, I'm about

(10:46):
to let everyone in on the secret. Oh, it's the
most badass. It's the coolest. Even watching it last night,
I was like goosebumps all over again. And then when
callous David o'yellow with that voice like butter and so,
what did you say? He says, focus your fire on
on the Jedi.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
So good.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's so it's like peak Star Wars. It's uh, it's
just it's just well, chef's kiss and.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
We get the classic music to the the fair use
please don't see what us lucasfilm, And this is where
we really start to see the making of what the
Kiners were doing with the music, because they were being
very respectful towards the sound we're used to with Star Wars,
but they very much created their own thing throughout the

(11:39):
course of the show, which which we'll obviously get into
the further on we go with our podcast journey. But
that moment, like, it's goosebumps every time, just like that
scene in Superman when Christopher Reeve finally has the Superman costume.
This is on that level for me. In terms of okay, now,
now we're here now, like I'm glad you made us
wait until this moment, this of the series or of

(12:02):
this TV movie to reveal, Okay, he is the Jedi,
the Jedi ponytails not just for show, it's all part
of the ensemble.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, the payoff is huge in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Was that your favorite seeing Taylor or did you have
a no? I agree.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
It's because they didn't make us wait too long either,
which is nice, Like there is a version of this
where you don't introduce the Jedi till the end of
season one. Yeah, I mean it is cool that in
the opening because now it's going to linger with us forever.
It's like he's capable of so much. It's when is
he going to choose? Because if I remember quickly, he

(12:39):
doesn't always bring it out, so it is cool to see. Also,
lightsabers are just the coolest things, so it's pretty sick
that that's out immediately.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
And it's great character development and expansion because it's obviously
it's something that Canaan was suppressing for so long and
almost in denial of, but he has to let it out.
But then it brings out that part of were going
back to Aladdin Diamond in the Rough. It goes back
to Ezra like embracing oh, like inspired by that, and
then you go and save the young Wookie and again

(13:10):
with the Vince Carter hops and everything, and which goes
to something Vanessa you talked about. I know you love
that Stormtrooper part with Ajent Kelly.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, I realized that I mentioned that in our first episode,
and really that's not in the first episode. I was
referencing the end of this episode, which is the second
part of this total story arc. But I hope it
was fair to mention because I'm just sort of thinking
that as like the initial beat of our launch if
you will.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well, it did air back to back, but yes, in
all fairness, it was a TV movie. It all blends together,
so sure, you know, just I think everything's correct in
that sense. And this is when it really felt like
classic Star Wars to me, and an overall spark of
rebellion was almost like I'm not saying it's a New
Hope two point zero, but it had it felt like

(14:00):
we were getting if you never watch Star Wars, it
was like a proper introduction, like a starter kit to
Star Wars, but if you have, you're appreciating like they're
treating it like a legacy sequel, like a legacy series
and not dismissing anything else that happened. Just like when
Scream rebooted their franchise recently with like the legacy sequel NIV,
Campbell came back it still it kind of felt like

(14:22):
the original, but felt like its own thing. That's what
I feel like Rebels was doing. But this scene in
particular was very classic Star Wars. The music, the lightstabers,
and even the Wilhelm scream when Ezra uses as cosmic
Bart Simpson slingshot and we had the Wilhelm screen, which
I think Jac's gonna have some really cool info on that,
because you don't hear that as much anymore in Star Wars,

(14:45):
and so when I've heard that for the first time,
I was like, oh, the Wilhelm scream because even in
the prequels, George wasn't using it as much as he
did in like the original trilogy. So I felt like
that was such a nice callback to let's get back
to our roots foundation and then from here build out
what Starrubs Hubbles is going to be. It's this this
is the scene where I feel like if the show

(15:07):
is I don't think I don't know if the show
is ever on the bubble, but or if like anyone
had to decide, like this would be the scene like, Okay,
we have a show, we have a series here, this
is this thing's gonna go as long as they want
to go.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
And speaking of Goosebumps, I know we're kind of working
backwards here, but man, uh you know Master obi Wan
with the message yes, and Kanaan sort of pensively, he's
got his eyes closed and he's listening, oh Goosebumps again,
Like we're just we're just off to the races with
this first two you know, one two episode arc.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
In a great time to Clone Wars too, so I
mean you're you're satisfying the people who may have been
like I'm Clone Wars or bust. But then bringing in
James Arnold Taylor, which can we get him on here?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Like do you James Arnold Taylor?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
I could call him right I could call him right now.
What do you mean should we call.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Him right now?

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Should we call James Arnold Taylor right now?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I mean I don't know what he's doing in Nashville.
But he no, he has said, and Ashley as well.
They both would love to come join us anytime.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
So we should we.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Should give him proper notice. Maybe don't.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah he might. I mean he's a dad, you know,
he might have some things going on.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
But uh, that would be a funny segment called James
Arnold Taylor.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
No, we could just cold call various individuals. What about
the little Wookie though, I mean, that became the darling
that broke the Internet. I'll never forget that. As I said,
it was sort of live at the time, tweeting things
with friends like oh you know that that was the Yes,
the Jedi, the revelation, all the feels, the goosebumps and
all those things. But equally that that little, uh little

(16:42):
guy was quite popular. As I recall, was there an
actor who voiced that character. I'm trying to remember. I
don't believe so, because he'll tell us.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Or Jac's got a lot on his plate this time.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I know, Jc's like the cartoon octopus. You know, that's
like the operator.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Cutest Wookie.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Uh is it is it? Is it a mom or
a dad Wookie? I think it's a dad Wookie right
the dad and it.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Kills dad or uncle? Not sure, Okay, let's stay down, kid.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
But I really love that, and it really tugged at
my heart strings. But I really love that. You know,
we see Ezra at the very beginning of the very
first episode where you obviously see that he is a
good hearted kid on that that makes me sounds old.
He's a good hearted human because he's helping these people,

(17:37):
but because of his circumstances and how life has gone
for him, he's also like has to be self sufficient,
so he's also like looking out for himself. And he
steals the yoga or he takes the yogans yogans is
that what they are?

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Yogans?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
And so and I feel like it's so it's it's
so nice to see this like this, this everlily, just
in this short amount of time where he you know,
I guess he just hadn't been face to face with
such like selflessness and you know, really like honorable, honest

(18:13):
people that are like doing good for the sake of
doing good and not just you know, like for them
out for themselves, and so it's so it's it's it's
really touching to see how quickly he's able to go like,
wait a minute, I'm kind of into this, and he
like goes and selflessly saves this little baby Wookie, and
you know that's progress. Yeah, there will continue to be progress,

(18:36):
as we'll see, but.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
It goes to show how important it is, like that
is a mirror to the world, Like if you just
show people goodness, it's infectious in people and that's why
it's so great and entertainment alone, like kids watching it
seeing the same thing will feel like Ezra, like my
brother doesn't share toys with me, and then they experienced
it like this and they'll reframe how they see things.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
But I will.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I will bring up the sling shop because and I
go to some of these conventions people people make fun
of that slingshot. I think it is so sick, like yeah,
it reminds me of like goonies and like like I
don't know, I like anything that's going to be different
like that, And I don't know what he's shooting out

(19:17):
of it, the little like energy balls, but I love
that there's a slingshot, Like you would never think of
a slingshot in a world where lightsabers exist totally, what
are they shooting.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, everything.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I found a little rookie it's kit War, kit War.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
In the episode, I was like, when did you want
his name? Y'all had a conversation apparently did I know
this is going to be controversial and I know I'm
kind of going down. I think you said it in
a previous I said it in this episode. I know, listen,
obviously lightsabers are amazing and super pool, but you said

(20:00):
that like I think you said lightsabers are the coolest,
and just as a person who yes, as a person
who plays in Mandalorian on TV, I'm just gonna have
to say jet packs.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
No way, no way, no way. Sorry, the well, let
the audience respect. We're going to get cool, We're gonna get.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
The I'm nervously drinking water as you developed, John.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
You know, people who are oppositional and contrarian will say
jet packs. They'll say anything about lightsabers. But everyone knows
Star Wars hinges on a lightsaber.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Of course it does. But when we're talking about like
the coolest weapons or the coolest gadgets, jay Z, can
you fact check us?

Speaker 5 (20:48):
This reminds me?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
When I was like, this reminds me, and I was
like nine on the school bus, and you would be
putting together like imagine Baltimore went up against. Okay, if
a lightsaber and a jet pack, a lightsaber goes right
through a jet pack.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
A jet packed a lightsaber does nothing.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
A person wearing a jet pack evades the lightsaber because
they're in the air. They're gone.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
No, no, one blast.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You shoot at someone with the lightsaber, They blast it
right back to the person with a jet pack.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Nothing happens to the lightsaber.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
We're going to take a poll. Yeah, we decide this
is going to.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Be our best social clip ever. By the way, with this,
I am so happy. Look it. Well, I'm going to
piggyback that with a possible and I think JC can
fact check this as well. So there's a line that
Ezra has in this when he warns the ghost crew
he says it's a trap. Now that line in particular

(21:42):
is associated with amra akbar of course and return the
JETI even though I believe Princess Leia also said it,
I think two or three times in Empire Strikes Back,
but canonically speaking, in the sequential order of things, technically,
Ezra Bridger said it's a trap first before lea for
Admiral Acbar my knowledge, nobody said it on the Acolyte

(22:04):
because technically that will be first, because that's higher public.
They definitely said it's a first trap when Many Essento
showed up. But yes, yes, Many, We'll hopefully get him
on here one day, but I'm going to try. I
just want to say Ezra Bridger said it's a trap
first in the sequential like timeline calendar, year whatever. I
don't think they used them Mayan calendar, but whatever they

(22:24):
use Caz Bridger, which I'm sure like Eleia and Akbar, like, hey,
you know what, I heard az A Bridger one time
said this, let's just go with that, you know. So
that's going to be me inserting that sort of Star
Wars canon.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
On the shirt.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yes it first, that's a great shirt. I wear that shirt.
Rebels did a lot of things, and like Rebels, I
feel like it put us into this territory of a
lot of like fun Star Wars, not that anything else,
not that the original trilogy wasn't fun, but this sort
of like new adventures and new characters, which I feel like.

(23:01):
I love the solo standalone movie, like did it need
to be made? That's debatable but I love the movie
because the first act was very Rebels, and it was
around the time Rebels came out, and so many people
for whatever reason, had their opinions about Solo. But now
we have Skeleton Crew that's out, which is wonderful and
has that sense of adventure, but you trace it back,

(23:22):
it's Rebels. Rebels leaned into that adventure, into that fun
to realize, to understand that that's Star Wars. It's George
made it for kids like he wanted because times were
so dark and he wanted to have something bright for
people to watch. And Rebels, I feel like was a
nice reboot going into where we are now. And I've
even been on social just kind of. I think I

(23:43):
shared the screenshot with you all when I was asking
me like, hey, who watched Rebels, and I had so
many people responding and a lot of them said they
consider a peak Star Wars. So I'm just just spent
shout out shout out to Taylor's fiver account for.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I Love Yes, piggybacking on what you said, I feel
like we've jumped right into like the Star Wars eness
of it, where there's like action, it's action packed and
yet We've got these fun quips and banter, which is
so original trilogy to me. I mean I'm not I'm
not likening our show too the original trilogy, but I

(24:24):
just mean in that way of Star Wars, there's there's
a chase, there's you know, high stakes, and yet there's
funny banter back and forth. I love when Space Mom
comes in with the full Gara zeba rellium, like you
know in Trouble, Space Mom is mad, you know, or
like when what does Ezra say, Like when you're in
the cell, in the holding cell and you're like my

(24:45):
uncle the Emperor, Like all of that is just fun
and kind of just get gets you in the Star
Wars mode, you know, like you're like, Okay, I see
what's going on here. You know, hopefully we continue that
people feel that we continue to that throughout the rest
of the series. But I thought, like we're off to
a good start here, Like it's it feels Star warsy
in all the best ways.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yeah, they're like actual sitcom beats.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
I was just gonna say, I didn't really recall zeb
being so such an adversary to you. I mean, you
guys fought, man, you did not get along initially, I
don't remember there being such friction when I was wading,
Like whoa, they really need to get to know each
other better. And it's beautiful the way you actually come
to do that.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
But I get to me, that is the biggest sign
of love, Like, yeah, you can't have an argument with
like I just I won't engage. I mean for me
to go at the jet pack lightsaber, I have to
care and I have to care about you otherwise I can't. Yeah,
I mean, And so when I see Zev and Ezra

(25:46):
go at it, I'm like, that's like the person I've
fought with most of my life is.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
My brother and he's my favorite person in the world.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
So like it's it is so so sweet and also
we know where they're going, and for it to happen
so early with relationship like strange relationship of Ezra not
knowing if he's going to join this group.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, I love shout out to Steve Bloom. I love
those moments where you know he's like snarling and growling
and you know he's got these funny one liners. But
as soon the moment you need him to give you
like just just get gets you a little va klemped.
You know, he's he just brings it. It's so it's
so skillful, he's so masterful.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah, and there's another fun Ezra moment here because Ezra
one of the trademarks as uh we go through the
series is Ezra has his whole bag of tricks in
terms of his aliases or his fake names that he
gives people so callous as him his name is he
says job of the Hut. It's the first time he does.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Is I think.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
I think what jac and I are going to do.
We're going to have like a tally maybe every time
we get to the end of like a season of Rebels,
will kind of telly together how many times did you
say job of the Hut? How many times? How many
langueses the sabineo Because at the end of this we
see that she understands Bookie and she's a master of
Zeene the linguistics and Taylor I plaitically, like, was that
something that Dave discussed with you? Like was there ever? Like,

(27:06):
I don't know how much I know we talked a
little bit about it last week about like we was
there a question of like how would I know who
job of the Hut is, like, what, what's the context
of this?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
You know?

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah, is there anything that you could enlighten us with
that done that?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah? There. We had conversations early on where I think
Dave pretty quickly realized when I wasn't laughing at like
communal jokes that I didn't know as much about Star
Wars as everyone else did. And he had come up
to me and he was like, hey, don't watch anything, like,
don't wherever you're at, just stay there, because he was like,
there's this misconception in Star Wars that like every character

(27:44):
knows as much as all of the fans know, as
if every character is sat down and watched everything that
has been put out. And he was like Ezra, when
he goes to Space, it's his first time off of
lo Thal, he's heard these names, and he's just grabbing
at anyone like saying, hey, my name's hand Aaron, Like
he's just saying something that isn't his name, and he

(28:05):
doesn't know who job of the Hut is, but it's
just a name that's crossed through in the zeitgeist of
growing up on loath All, I think, And that was
a really interesting thought for me. It was like oh yeah,
Like I think people often hold themselves a bit higher,
like being in on the the knowledge, whereas.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
A lot of these characters they only know what they know.
And so there was a real honesty to that.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
When davesa it kind of unlocks something for me where
I was like, oh yeah, now I don't have to
watch anything.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Which is funny because I was the exact opposite. I
went to Dave and I was like, Okay, what do
I need to know? What can I watch? What do
I read? What do I which is you know that
I feel like these are these are like illustrative of
both Taylor and my personalities. But you know, Dave was
great and he gave me some good homework on like
which Clone Wars episodes to what like you know the

(28:56):
Mando centric Clone Wars arcs and episodes right yeah, yeah,
pre visual hey and like Freddy too. He was like, okay,
just what you gotta do? What you go to watch?
You want to like make sure you read such and
such and the closet attention to you know, this particular
fight scene, this fight sequence anyway, So yeah, I feel
like I went into I went into this from a

(29:19):
different place than Taylor did. Taylor was like, oh, Ezra
doesn't know cool cool cool.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
I got it, I got it.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
We good.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
The job of the Hut things even it is funny
now too because I was talking about how I earlier
about I was on social media. I'm on threads mostly
now about who watched Star Wars Rebels. And then I
saw the announcement. This is months back when they announced
Jeremy Allen White is going to be job of the
Huts Sun the Mandalorian movie.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
And then they showed but they showed like the photo
job of the Hut. And I commented with the gift
of Ezra Bridger going job of the Hut, and I said,
I thought this was job by the Hut. I had
so many people go, yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
Like so, like I said, there's a lot of Rebels
fans out there, and it's almost like how Ezra has

(30:09):
to find that within himself or Canan has to let
out his Jedi ness. I think there's people out there
that need to just be like, hey, I want you
all to know you don't have to hold in your
Star Wars Rebels love anymore. It's all here. This is
what their pod is for so just let it all
out because I got so many responses on that. It's
one of the most things I've got an engagement on
ever on social media. It was terity. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Well, at some of the cons that I went to,
I think I went to dragon Con twenty fifteen, I
did a panel with Peter Mayhew. I remember someone stood
up and was like, I can't stand Star Wars Rebels,
and I said, well, have you ever seen it? No, Well,
then I'm not really sure we can take that as

(30:53):
valid feedback. But I think the pandemic, a lot of
people in Lockdown had nothing better to do but to
kind of catch up on Star Wars content, and it's
had a whole new following at that point. And then
of course, with you know, some of the theatrical releases,
people wanted to get the backstory before certain things came out,

(31:16):
and now universally, I have a lot of people come
up to me at the events saying how much they
adore Star Wars Rebels, how they were sort of late
to the party, but how much it meant to them.
So it's just amazing the longevity that it's had and
the relevance that it continues to have, so it's really fun, do.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
You feel I feel like when stuff like The Bad
Batch came out, I felt like that's supplemented it a lot.
I filled in a lot of those blanks. And then
when that seventh season of Clone Wars came out, the
one they never got to release, I just it all
just felt like such proper pieces of the puzzle coming together.
And Rebels is such I almost consider it almost like
the middle child of Star Wars. And here's what I

(31:54):
mean by that, Like the middle child can be the
one that's the overachiever, but still they're not the oldest
and not the youngest. And because of when Rebels was
released two years after the Disney acquisition and then right
before Force Awakens, and then Force Awakens open up a
whole other can of worms in terms of Star Wars discussions,
but all along, like Rebels was there for seventy seven episodes,

(32:15):
having this just just great thing that exists in Star Wars.
But so I'm so happy to hear that more people
are getting onto it, because I know a lot of
people missed it in real time. I didn't because the
moment I saw a sparkle rebellion, like, oh, like I
have to see more. And then by the time and
again we'll get there. We got along, we got a
we got a road to go. But by the time
we got to the mid season finale of season one,

(32:37):
you if you weren't all in, like that gets you
one hundred percent all in and you never want the
show to ever end. So it's it's like I said,
I'm and I'm a middle child too, so I'm just like,
I empathize with the middle child thing. Well.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
And also we were like the very first thing, the
very first joint venture once this film, you know, was
acquired by Disney, and so I think I think there
were plenty of people who were thankfully brooding for us,
you know, Star Wars fans who wanted us to succeed
and wanted to, you know, lend their fandom to our show.

(33:16):
But I think a lot of people were skeptical, very skeptical.
I remember, just specifically for Sabine, like this Mandalorian is
an artist. Oh she paints what is this? Like?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
What what is you know?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Well played? Yeah, I'm the one that was like Aladdin
spates Aladdin. I gosh, we were talking each other the
whole time.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
But I mean, I hope.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I hope, like like Vanessa's saying, I hope once people
actually watched the show and hopefully felt like we were
doing you know, doing doing right by Star Wars and
Star Wars fans. Is that like hopefully they came around.
I think they can. I think plenty of people came around.
I've had plenty of people, you know, that I've interacted
with at various conventions and Star Wars weekends, et cetera,

(34:09):
that were like I was super skeptical of this like
artist Mando situation, but you know, like I'm fully on
board with Sabein now. So you know, hopefully we changed
the minds.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
The whole thing you just had just now with like
that was you comments and that I feel like that's
the you got male reboot we all deserve. It's like, well,
you were the one seeing speech with them, like I
wanted to be so bad. I wanted you to be
the one Artist Mando. So uh, just you're gonna throughout
the course of the pod, you're gonna see I'll go
on random sidebars like that because I thought of you

(34:43):
got mail when you did that, Like wait, how was
the one doing that?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Another thing that I loved about this episode and this
is this the second part of this TV movie really
ties together all very much a new hope. When Ezra's
back home and Kanaan is telling like, you can learn
the ways of the Force, and Kanaan said, well, what's
the force? And Canaan says that Ezra basically what Obi
Wan said to Luke in episode four, but in his

(35:09):
own Canaan way. And you know, I've never talked to
Freddy about that, but i may just kind of sidebar
with him because I'm sure that him knowing what he knows,
and sometimes, as you know, knowing what you know is
also knowing nothing because it can also it can work
against you. But having to do the lines that Sir
Elaginnis did and the temptation to try to capture what

(35:30):
Sir Eleghinnis did, but Freddie being Freddie, he always figures
it out. As we all know, he made that Kanaan's
way of I'm going to say the same words that
obi Wan says, but this is going to be my
way of saying it. And again, it's a starter kit
for Star Wars fans who never watched Star Wars and
now that's their introduction to the Force, and I just
I felt like it was so smart how it was written,

(35:52):
where obviously Rebels became its own standalone thing, but you
have to respect like where the foundation came from. And
I think that's how smart this what this two part
movie is.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Thanks John agreed.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
I agree, And there's incredible writing throughout as well.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
And there there's so many easter eggs that I mean,
Star Wars fans are It's the best fan group in
the world because they're also so aware of everything. I
feel like I've learned from all of the sentiments that
fans have shared, but how much they plugged things in
that correlate to other parts of I guess canon. That's

(36:28):
also a big thing is that it being in canon
it all we get some of the biggest moments of
certain characters in Star Wars in Rebels that you kind
of have to go to Rebels to find it. And
I know a lot of fans have come to Rebels
and for that reason is to sort of illuminate whatever
we showed.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I'm remembering. I think it was the first celebration that
we did in Anaheim, when I don't know that this
correlates to the second part of the first storyline. But
when Dave Filoni whispered to Jedi Ricks, it's Kilted Jedi
Rick is his name, and we're still friends on uh X,

(37:09):
I guess and told his daughter, who's now like in college.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
But okay, don't say that part.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
I know, it's so weird. It's so weird, like she
was the only human. She was the only human on
earth who knew who voiced Chopper, and I just thought
that was such a cool way to bond, first of all,
with a kid like here you are, You're invited up
on stage and this kid is the only one who knows.
Didn't even tell her father.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yes, I never told a soul pick the right kid.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
If that was me, everyone would know.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
When I was five, Yeah, you got you.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
I would have walked off that stage and announced it
to everyone.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
But he knew.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
And another you know, shout out to Kilted Jedi Jedi
Rick we Rick Plot I believe is his full name,
just to you know. We were a been something called
lining up dot net and we lining up dot Net
raises money for I believe it was the Starlight Children's Foundation.
It's been ten years so but we would stand in

(38:13):
line for force Awakens and all the subsequent films, and
I would send them all pizza while they were waiting
in line in the cold. But yet, yes, one more
example of how we were welcomed into the Star Wars
community on a level that is really quite remarkable. I
can't say that about any of the other franchises that

(38:35):
I've been involved with. Maybe Young Justice, maybe Spectacular, Spider
man Ish, but nothing like this anyway. Rick shout out
to Rick and his family.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
I love that. I love like you're rattling off because
you've been a part of so many iconic properties. Veness.
It's like there's probably like Flex, like Young Justice, Flex,
you know, like you've been on so many cool things.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I remember, I don't want to disrespect those communities, so
I did have to.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Know I'm very much like I watched all those as well.
And I remember when we first met. It was San
Diego Comic Con, I want to say twenty seventeen, and
you were on a panel with the late great Kevin
Conroy who we all miss, Bruce Tim, Chris Gorum, and
Tara Strong. I believe that was the panel, and I
remember the first thing I said to you was like,
I love you as Black Canary on Injustice because I

(39:25):
was obsessed with Injustice too the video game.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Oh yeah, great game, great game.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Yeah, and it's the three year my friends. But then
there's moments where I pause, like, oh wait, you're this
and this, and especially with you Vanessa, something like oh wait,
you're a wonder woman, you're also black Canary, you're also this,
and it's just you know, because I view you obviously
as a person first and foremost. But then when you
mentioned young like, oh yeah, that's right, he's wide man.
Oh yeah, that's right. Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh yeah

(39:51):
that too, now that you mentioned it that.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Your friends with a prolific, proly, truly truly same dude,
Like you're like, oh, Steve the greatest human and you're
just bugs with him. And then you're like, wait, whoa,
hold on, hold on, let me just unravel your very
very lengthy resume, Like yeah, same.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
It's also fun to hear you guys did it much more.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
I never did it.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
I tried once playing other characters in the show.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
That's my favorite.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
I'm like I'm like, hang on, hang on, hand, who
is that I know? And it's like, oh, that's Steve.
That's Vanessa, that's Steve. You did a couple two you didn't,
you know?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I think, no, I know, I'm like no one, but
Steve picking out. Steve as like verious troopers and like
this this this bad guy. And for me the Easter
Eggs are like it's Wears Waldo, but Steve Boom's voice
very different accents and tenors and timbers and stuff. That's
really fun.

Speaker 7 (40:55):
I think I got to play a tie pilot and
she was really intense. Now that you're saying, like, yes
you did, Yeah, yeah, she.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Was like coming in hot on Green nine or nine
or I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I said, but you know that that sparks a question
in my mind now. And I've never really known the
answer to this. But when you if you do multiple characters,
I know you're under contract for this character, but like
if if you're going to do like another thing, like
are you how does that work? Pay structuralise? I don't
know if you're allowed to reveal that numbers like, I

(41:28):
don't know if you're allowed to reveal that. I mean,
maybe that's part of our part of rebellion, but I feel.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Like that's an interesting generational wealth.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
If you pay another if you play another character.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Right, No, I think included in your day rate is
up to three voices if I'm not mistaken, So you
can you can throw in a town's person or her session.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
You mean yeah, yeah, do you mean to tell me
all of those voices that Steve Bloom voiced on our show,
if it was just three of them, if it was
just three per session, it was all like an all
part of the part of the that guy was working overtime.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Let's go back on strike, guys.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I forgot something.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
I mean, unless it's you know, if you're playing like
some alien character who's key that that's a secondary character,
but you know someone who's who just says like Roger
Roger or I mean, sure, no disrespect to Matt Wood,
who's Radio Roger. He was definitely, I'm sure he he
was credited for all the clones that he played. Those

(42:36):
soldiers were that those were what were the name of
the Raggio Rager the battle thank you?

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Not clones, that's d but anyway, Yeah, but if it's
just sort of an incidental character you I believe there's
up to three.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
That's interesting because yeah, which is.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Why on your animation demo you want to let them
know that you can cover the kid, the old lady,
you know, the wizard, the you know, grocery person, I
don't know you, you on your you may get the job,
but then they reference your animation demo to make sure
that you can cover various roles as needed, show some

(43:15):
range exact that there.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
No, it's very good information because I'm sure I'm sure
part of our audience are people who are aspiring actors
or people who may want to get into the animation space.
And I know I appreciate you sharing the information. I'm
sure they appreciate you sharing some of these little I
guess trade secrets for lack of a better term, because why,
well it's just last week we were talking about let's

(43:39):
not treat voice acting like it's a lesser form of acting.
It's a different form of acting, right, and just like,
but there's this whole other set of economics and other
logistics that aren't going to line up one to one
with like a live action contract. So like, again, we
were not going to turn this into like an economics podcast,
But I feel like that's really valuable information because people
sure tailor well, if I.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
May interject, since we're on the subject of you know,
we we three certainly get folks all the time coming
up to us when you know, at meet greats and
autograph signings that are like, hey, I really want to
get into voice acting?

Speaker 3 (44:15):
How do I do it?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
And that's a really hard quest.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
I mean, it's a hard.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Question to answer because there's no easy sort of oh
one plus one equals too. It's like there's it's there's
all different kinds of ways one can come to this.
But I was just going to say, two really really
really great resources for those who are interested and want
to give their you know, give it a shot are
Dee Bradley Baker and Steve Bloom. They both have websites

(44:42):
and they Vanessa. They like teach courses. You yes probably talk.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
To de Bradley Baker's site is I want to be
a Voice Actor dot com. It is free and uh,
there you will find all you need to know. How
to make a home studio, how to create demo. There
are exercises that you'll find, vocal exercises, passages to practice
this and that. There's also Steve Bloom has bloom Vox

(45:09):
Studios and he has all kinds of guest speakers and
that is much more interactive and also not free, but
he is very hands on. I think he teaches a
class once a week and you sort of move up
the ranks. And he asked me to guest speak one
night and I ended up booking a Fox promo. This

(45:30):
is not a flex, this just happened, and rather than cancel,
he's like, take us in the booth with you. Bo
I was like, all right, So we went in and Gwen,
who works with him. Gwen found the Fox promo so
that she was able to show what I did behind
the scenes and the beep and sort of what I heard.

(45:50):
And you literally get that script two seconds before you're
reading it and they're taking it straight to air. But
it let them know that this is what it means.
You're sort of like a doctor on call. If you
want to sign up to live in this world. At
a moment's known as you're teaching a class and suddenly
you're in a booth rattling something off for thirty seconds,

(46:10):
it's over. But yeah, Gwen found the final spot and
it was it was really interesting for the students to see.
So that that's what he affords people is kind of
a look behind the scenes and not only his experience,
but he has a ton of different actors come on
and share their trade secrets if you will, and so

(46:30):
that's also helpful. There's another site that I'll mention It's
called skills Hub, and skills Hub was created by Jennifer Hale,
who plays alas Sakura, and she just played another character
in The Bad Batch JC Will Know forgive me.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
I can see the care that's our other merch idea.
JC Will know. We got to have j c Will know. Yeah,
we need space mom merch too.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
We do.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
But Jennifer is very active in the Star Wars video
games as well. I've been in a bunch with her.
But Jennifer has a website where and I'm actually I
am teaching on that site as people have requested that
I help them in various ways. And I've met a
lot of really really cool people on her site. But

(47:18):
what I love about hers is that it is a community,
and when you join, you get a there's like a forum.
I get updates all the time, people saying like, Hey,
I've got this audition, I don't know what to do.
It's a great resource to find community within the voiceover community,
and there's like no hater energy whatsoever. It's all very

(47:41):
very supportive. I'm trying, Oh the bad Batch. She plays
Senator Chucci. Let's go Jennifer and everyone knows her. She's Shepherd.
I call her sweet hot Shepherd in mass effect. Let's
go Aspect one, two and three. Anyway, Jennifer Hall fan here.
But there are lots of wonderful classes that folks can

(48:03):
immerse themselves in and do them all. But I always
say go to Dee Bradley's de Barley Baker's site first,
as it is all free and so comprehensive. It's lovely.
He's a fine gentleman, and.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
You're learning from the best, I mean the best of
the best.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Yeah, the man of like literally a million voices. I mean,
like I think like IMDb's like coding had to be
extended just because of like his IMDb page. It's pretty ridiculous.
So one little little tidbit that I'm going to head
on here before I'm going to take it to our
I believe probably I think I would, dare I say

(48:37):
our favorite part of the podcast. We go to the
Spice Minds of Kessel In this episode, I if I'm
not mistaken, and jac will correct me very soon. Canonically,
I think that's the first time we actually see the
Spice Minds of Kessel. I know it's mentioned obviously in
a New Hope I did the customer and listen to
twelve part SS of that whole thing, but I don't
think we've ever seen it until Rebels and Rebels again,

(49:00):
as we see throughout the course with a lot of
things get debut and rebels. But I believe, if I'm
not mistaken, Spice Minds of Kessel as one of them.
But let's find out right now and go to our
fact check segment with JC. What do you got for us?

Speaker 6 (49:12):
Alrighty, Okay, I got a bunch of stuff today. I
went deep on some things, so excuse me if it's
if I drone on John. You and Taylor opened the
show talking about the Star Wars line I have a
bad feeling about this, which is said over and over
and over throughout all Star Wars, and you mentioned that
this episode. Taylor flipped to I have a good feeling

(49:35):
about this from episode one where he said I have
a bad feeling about this. For your recap, well, I
did want to say that Hans Solo actually famously says
I have a good feeling about this in Solo, a
Star Wars story Hot. Yeah, so that is the first
kind of reference to it. I have a bad feeling

(49:56):
about this, which is then said in canon order in
Star Wars Rebels. First, Taylor, you mentioned Star Wars sports.
You guys came up with pod racing. I also wanted
to say in episode two at the Outlander nightclub scene,
the death Stick scene, in the background, you can see

(50:16):
people in the bar watching sports on TV. The sports
that they're watching on TV, one of them is called Nunaball.
It is droids that are playing some sort of football
like sport. A Nuna is an animal from Naboo that's
kind of like a swamp turkey is the way it's described,

(50:39):
and Nunaball, the Nuna, the actual animal, is the ball
that the droids are throwing around. Odu Piando racing is
also seen on those screens, and the Oda Piendo kind
of looks like an Ostrich, so it's like Ostrich Star
Wars Ostrich Racing. So those are the other two Star
Wars Wars Sports that I was able to dig up.

(51:03):
Tia mentioned her movie The Internship, which is fantastic I
just wanted to point.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Out it really is.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Go watch.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
It's really fun. It's really really fun and welcome. There's
a deleted scene, well where Will Farrell plays Boba Fett. So, yeah,
he shows up in a Bob Effect costume. That's the
one I'm talking about. Yeah, and so if you want
to see Will Ferrell as Boba Fett, I mean he

(51:32):
doesn't play Boba Fet. He cosplays Boba Fett. So if
you want to see this, check that out, dig up
a DVD of that, which is what we learned about
last episode. What DVDs are. If you don't know Willhelm scream. Yes,
the trooper falls, he uses the Wilhelm scream when he's
knocked over. John, you mentioned that you don't hear it
as much anymore. Wilhelms scream was like a ben Bert trademark.

(51:56):
Who's the genius sound guy who George Lucas hired to
do the first Star Wars, which a little deep dive
on that. Originally, George Lucas was good friends with Walter Merch,
who was an editor. He edited The Conversation and the
Godfather and some movies. I think he did the Godfather
movies like that. Brilliant, brilliant. Editor George Lucas went to

(52:18):
USC and said, I need the next Walter Merch to
do my Space movie, and they were like, we've got
this guy, Ben Burke. So Ben Burt did all of
the Star Wars sound effects. He loved the Wilhelm scream,
which is why we saw it in all of the
original Star Wars. A little background on the Wilhelm scream.
It was part of the WB sound library. It was

(52:38):
first heard in a nineteen fifty one film called Distant Drums.
The name comes after a character named Private Wilhelm in
a movie called The Charge at Feather River which came
out in nineteen fifty three. He gets shot in the
leg with an arrow and he lets out that scream.
That's where it kind of got is most recognized, even

(52:58):
though I think it's the third appearance of the Wilhelm
at that point. The voice that you're hearing is an
actor named Sheb Woolyy is what is believed. I know
Ben Bert did a big deep dive into the archives
and where that came from, so it is believed it
is Sheb Woolly's voice who actually performed the scream that
we've heard hundreds of hundreds of times throughout movies. Now, Tia,

(53:21):
you mentioned Yogan fruit. It is Yogan, even though it's
pronounced or even though it's spelled with a J. Kitwar
the Wookie does not have a credited voice actor, so
it was probably one of you guys in the booth
doing making noises or whatever that they used as part
of your three voice deal that you signed up for.

(53:43):
The energy sling shot of Ezra's it is just called
an energy slingshot that doesn't have a fancy name. It
doesn't have a DL forty four type designation. Apparently it
costs forty credits, and it was handcrafted by a z
Too named Furple.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Holloway, or Wallaway.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
The z Too is.

Speaker 6 (54:09):
A six starm alien species, which, if you're familiar with
the pod Race in episode one, the Podracer guest Gano
was a Zito alien. All of this info was in
a prequel young adult book by writer wind Him called
Ezra's Gamble. So maybe John and I need to go

(54:31):
and grab all the or all of the Star Wars rebels,
comics and young adult novels and do a deep dive
for all of your guys sci fi weapons. There was
a great, lively debate about what's better a lightsaber or
a jetpack, so.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
I did a little research on this.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
According to IGN's Best twenty five Sci Fi Weapons, lightsaber
is number one.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
Sideshow Collectibles also ranked lightsabers number one in their list
of best sci Fi weapons, beat out things like a
proton pack, the Alien Pulse rifle, the Noisy cricket from
Men in Black. Also notable Star Wars items the Death

(55:23):
Star thermal detonator and seismic charge, which came from Jengo
FET's Slave one. Collider did a ranking of all specifically
Star Wars weapons. Lightsaber ended up number three on that one,
behind Death Start number two and the Force as number one,
which I feel like isn't really technology. Sadly, jet packed

(55:47):
did not show up on any list.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Okay, a jet pack is so much a weapon as
it is an accessory, a really.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
Really badass.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
I'll give you that it's a great accessory.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Really it's not.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
It's not Apple.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
I will throw a bone to u t though, the
Dark Saber on Collider's list was ranked number four, right
behind lightsaber, so you know the Mandalorians get represented thanks
to Collider. Canonically, it's a trap. The first time it
is mentioned in timeline order is Star Wars Rebels. The

(56:32):
first time it's mentioned in release order is C three.
Po says will be signed sent to the Spice minds
of Castle smashed into who Knows What to R two
D two in Star Wars episode four. Later on, Han
Solo makes reference to making the Castle run in less
than twelve par six. The first time we physically see
a photo of Kessel, I believe is in the premiere

(56:55):
set of the Decipher Star Wars CCG card game, which
came out in I think nineteen ninety five. In that
card set, it's shaped like a potato and is referencing
that Kevin j Anderson Jedi Academy trilogy books where they
all go to the Spice Mines of Cass.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
I think that's all I've got on.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
I do have.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
Vanessa mentioned Rick Jedi killed Rick. I wanted to point
out he does a wonderful George Lucas cosplay if you
can find him online. He does a great George Lucas cosplay.
You also mentioned Starlight Children's Foundation. Lining up dot com
does use Starlight Children's Foundation as their charity of choice.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Yeah, I think it's lining up dot net. Actually, oh yeah, yes, yes,
but it is starlight. Yeah, And I think that's all
I got for this episode. You guys gave me for
my money, we gave you. I have a question though,
I guess hopefully we'll have video eventually. Really you have
the most speaking of champion hair. But I have I

(58:05):
have a question. The earphones that you're wearing. Are they
resting betwixt the grains of said mohawk or have it?
Is your your mohawks on the it's behind the mohawk, like,
I'm just wondering. Is it dented in?

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Yeah, yeah, there's a little dent on it.

Speaker 6 (58:24):
I was trying to figure out how to do a
mixed minus on my mixed board before this. So because
I have another podcast to do tonight that I am
on my I am made part of, and so I
will be redoing the mohawk we have.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
We have a lot of Poto photographic evidence of all
that was shared today, So we'll get it all on
the socials for you. Don't worry.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
Absolutely blow up our Instagram and so yeah we will.
I would love to hear from the people. We'll probably
on Instagram. You can do those polls where people can vote. Yeah,
we're going to open it up to you all. You
can vote on jetpack or lightsaber. And also I'm gonna
throw one out because we're talking about Jac's epic mohawk. Yes,
and I already know what my boat is. But who
has the better mohawk? JC? Or Hawk on Cobra Kai.

(59:09):
You already know my answer. I'm I'm out to look
all respect the Hawk. I know he won the All
Valley Karate Tournament, but I got to well, we're just
gonna throw out unless you know what the people want.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
I'm sure you have an encyclopedic knowledge about Star Wars
and probably beyond. I'm guessing no. And my man JC,
I don't even want to. I never want to know, JC,
if you're actually looking any of this up, just never.
I want to believe that it just sprouts from your
your very very uh you know, big brain, and it's

(59:42):
it's all in there and you just kind of pull
pull off these backs when we need you to.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
I'm just gonna go with that too. It's just like
Lobot's so jealous, like I need all this machinery and
yours is just there, so.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Like the mohawk.

Speaker 6 (59:55):
It's all it's my attempt to either look at like
the rock Geteer or the episode two Clone Trooper helmet.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Love that mission accomplish. We do love the rocket.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Here.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
We'll sidebar on that because Jac and I've been we
have something, we'll talk. We'll talk anyways. Thank you again.
Jac has always thanked to the three you. Thank you
to our listeners. We're two episodes in. We got a
long journey ahead of us. And again we're not only
going to be talking about We're not only going to
be recapping episodes. We're going to have some bonus episodes
and because there's a lot of themes and there's a
lot of finer minutia to get into when it comes

(01:00:31):
to the entire UH Star Wars universe. Once again, you
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(01:00:54):
We keep it really easy and eventually we're gonna have
merch that says JC will know. We'll have space in
We're gonna have mom space Mom Mando artist as I
did it first, and.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
That's gonna be that's going to be a pretty good artist.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
We'll also have other actors on. Steve Bloom will join us,
uh as as they appear in different episodes. Uh Steve
is on a different time zone, and there are other issues.
But we will have all Star Wars family present throughout this,
so you can look forward to hanging out with everybody eventually.
So it's it's going to be very full of family members.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
The family affair absolutely, so eat your heart. Yeah, and
eventually will come up with an outrope. And until then, yeah,
thank you for listening. Like Taylor said, I like you the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Music music.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Our apology said George Lucas. You ran out of time,
you know, Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Sey'll next time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
May then force me with you always cute.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
The music.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
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