November 14, 2024 • 28 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think one of the things I'm looking forward to
most with this podcast is hearing from listeners, seeing what's
on their mind, what they have to say. So we
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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politicking at iHeartRadio dot com.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Man, what's hand him? Man? You got Marshawn, Bisma Lynch.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Doug Hendrickson, and Gavin Newsome and you're listening to politics
you know to be?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You known to be?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And cue the music, Come, come, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Doug. How you doing, Brother.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Good one one O, one three, Gavin More, Lena Drive.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
The weather is corny as fuck.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Hey, No, we're in the iHeart Studio, Sarah. This is
where I used to go when I was mayor. This
was the same studio I went in with like I
don't I can't remember as like kay whatever that what
I was this was This was the center.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Of the universe.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
This was old school studio. I think I did some
shows here before too.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You ain't do no damn show.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
What kind of shows?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I had a little morning call in show, but with
ninety seven to three back in the day, and I
was I did a week with Gless Radio. Yeah, a
weekly agent. I did a weekly agent segment on there,
talking about life as an agent, talking about sports and
culture and all those different things.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I don't know if I believe that. Marshaun, I never
heard that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Man, You know what, leave it leave it up a
dug man. He was the first motherfucker to step foot
on the moon.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yes, well, by the way, we see, by the way,
just by the way.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Seriously, I had my own damn radio show. You don't
even remember that. When I remember your radio show, I'm serious, right.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, Govin, just just a deal so people can understand.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It was the Gvin Newsom show.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
But right back, well just so, just so listeners, a
gavy gig, but listening to your stand. I've known you
now probably going on thirty years, So thirty years I've
known you, and we've done radio shows. We both failed statistics,
and we both like our tequila. And by the way,
I thought we established statistics. It's not about stats. It
(02:21):
ain't about numbers.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Where the fuck you be coming up with this year? Right?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, it's interesting more sean just to kind of kind
of retable the things here. I was on a h
I was on a seven day road trip. I was
in Pennsylvania. I was in DC, Maryland, Virginia, and I
did my own straw pole back then. And I was
talking to uber drivers at airport clerks, people at the hotels,
and I had a bad feeling. And so I go
(02:47):
in to see Gavin the nighted election. I get there
around four with I think I had two bottles tequila.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think you had drank a bottle.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, anyway, so I come in with my tequila and
I said, Batman, you may have a problem.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, you were pretty definitive. I was completely apps. I
was confident we were gonna win.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You said you were talking to airport clerks and uber
drivers and you should have been talking to the Dophins
and the Whinos.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well I did talk to whino.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
No, not talking to yourself, but some real Doughphins and
real Whinos. They would have they would have told you
what's they know? Everything?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
No, it was interesting, Gavin, so anyway, So I brought
I come in there. I tell you that in about
an hour into it, you looked at me and you said.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, we're toast. Holy shit.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So take me take me through your mindset as we
get into that first hour.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, and Marsha, I'm gonna go back to you. What
were the what were as you described them, dope fiends?
What were they telling you on the ground?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
What was on the ground?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean, I assume that's where you were with these guys,
But what I mean what, No, honestly, what were you hearing?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Did you hear the same thing Doug was hearing from
the his Uber driver and you know, this sort of
his elite lifestyle as he's on the road.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean I did. Man. They was telling me y'all
fucked up, and I was like, damn, career, we fucked up?
Like that? Why you say that? They like, because Gavin
was playing nice ball, My shit, he should have got
out there and started running. And I was like, so
you know, here, I like to blame everything on Gavin,
So I'm blaming that shit on you too.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I'll take it up. Trust me.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's not my first time being blamed for a presidential outcome.
Just go back to two thousand and four. But let
me but it's interesting, Doug. We'll step back as Doug.
Doug's not kidding, he was. You've been pretty pessimistic for
a few months. But you've been traveling over the country
and you've been primarily in these swing states doing your
day job.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
And I had been because, by the way, I remember,
I'm the public state school kid, common sense kid, and
common sense I came into this whole thing saying we
got a fucking problem.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
The difference is, and this is the difference, Marshaan, is
Doug's experience, your experience very different than mine. I'm out
there on the Swing States. I'm out there in Bucks
County in Pennsylvania. I'm out there in Michigan. I'm on
a blue bus, meaning a blue bus tour. I'm with
other Democrats. Everything's a bubble, and so you don't really
have a sense of what's real and what's not. The
(05:13):
crowds are organized, the crowds are enthusiastic, but it's a
bunch of Democrats. You're not randomly walking in to a
coffee store that hasn't been pre selected as the coffee store.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You will randomly walk in.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You're going to the VP lounge of the concerts seat
of the general mission.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, you're you know, you're going to a coffee store where
you know the owner is a Democrat and a support
of Democrats in the past. So there's this there's this
false sense when you're out there as a surrogate on
half a campaign.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
So you don't pick that up.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
What I did pick up with a lot of enthusiasm,
a lot of interaction. And but I did, I did
tell you?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What did I tell you?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I said, there's like I said, it was interesting. I
coined its like five eyes. I kept tearing obviously inflation,
inflation scars, people are pissed interest rates. That was about
credit card and car loans, that was about rent and mortgages.
Heard a lot about immigration, undoubtedly. The third eye, fourth
which was interesting, was sort of this incumbency that we
(06:08):
kind of owned this, and that was sort of like,
if people are angry, there's gonna be a little bit
of payback. And of course you heard the other particularly
in Michigan and other places, the issues around Israel, which
were not insignificant. I'd say if the sixth seventh igh
which would be the invasion in.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Ukraine as well.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So there was just that anxiety and that was sort
of a that was a consistent theme of conversation we
would have even with other Democrats.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But look, we got schelacked. That was that was it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It was no as kicking.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And I mean we lost all seven swing states. We
lost the popular vote first time in twenty years, second
time in thirty six years, which shows what an anomaly
that well, that's I mean, that's I think you've got
a better pulse in that respect. I mean what you
just said in terms of your interaction. You've been saying this, Marshawn,
You've been saying this for a while. You've been feeling
(06:59):
some name. Right, we talk about Oakland. The mayor of
Oakland was recalled. The DA in Alameda County was recalled.
I mean, this is unprecedented to lose a DA and
a mayor. And but you felt that you knew that
you saw that coming. You felt that you've expressed anxiety.
You were pretty candid about Harris and what your friends
(07:19):
were saying about Kamala.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
There was what was your sense.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I mean, Trump took advantage and I want to we
don't have to get deep into into Trump versus Kamala.
I mean it's more just you know, how everyone's feeling
post the election. But Trump obviously made a big play
for black mail votes in particular and made real problem.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I mean, he just started talking to the people. He
started talking to him in a way in which yeah,
I mean they can understand. Yeah, I mean, he leveled
with him and it was one of the biggest things.
Like I was telling you when I have conversations with you, likewise,
you know, I mean, how we even in this position
to be doing this this show is yeah, I mean
you never talked at me, you never talked down to me.
(08:00):
We talk on the level where you know, I mean,
it's understood. And then for things that I don't understand,
it's not a sensor where I feel like I'm just
I'm just an idiot, to where I can ask you
questions and you know, you'll you'll let me know what's up.
But you have somebody who basically was reasoning with the people,
(08:22):
and I mean, you know, regardless to if he gonna
do what he said, don't do, or I mean, whatever
the case may be. But just the fact that when
you get up there and speaking and you can understand it.
You can kind of feel where he's coming from.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
There's so much punitry and I'm trying to you know,
John Stewart, I thought nailed it. In the night of election,
he put out a little clip he said, whatever is
said tonight in the next couple of days is going
to be proven wrong. And then he rolled the clips
of the last few elections Democrats have lost, and everybody's
kind of said the exact opposite of what ultimately revealed
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itself over time. And that's why I think it's important,
especially guys like me, just absorb it. But it will,
it will present itself over time. What this election was
really about, this moment was about their trend lines, obviously
as it relates to working class folks. Now it's multiracial
and we've slip seen that slip away. But Marshaun, you
said something that is just it's not even it's so
simple and deserves more I think attention. He spoke in
(09:20):
a way that you can understand versus my ten point
plan on a sequel reform or something.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Right. Yeah, I mean you know that that shit is important,
especially with you know, I mean Cat William say, like
year twenty twenty four is the year of the truth.
And I mean, you know, with a lot of individuals
being woke and with how you know, individuals are interacting
with social media in the way that they get they
(09:48):
knows and you know, I mean you gotta remember, like
everybody is is hyper focused on you know, I mean
getting to the bottom of things. You know, when you
got somebody who you know talking in circles or you
know what I mean, just saying shit to be saying shit.
But then when you get an individual who just come
(10:09):
out blatant here and say what it is like you
know what I mean, motherfuckers, say you feel me, I'd
rather be be slapt with the truth, being kissed with
a you know what I mean, with a lie and
falsify our information and you know what I mean, like
just give it to me straight you know what I mean,
I'll be able to deal with it. But then it
goes to go to your you know, your conversation when
you're just talking about how individuals are dealing with uh
(10:32):
uh the coach and shit like you know what I mean,
as a player, like I would rather the coach come
and tell me straight up what it is rather than
sugar coat that ship. And then I mean, you know what,
because you can pick up the phone and you can
get whatever. However, and then with all of the clips
that have been put out, like it resonate with the
(10:55):
with the people, and you can get behind that. And
then at least when you know, if if it don't
go the way you know, I mean that it was
supposed to. Is like with shit. You know, I was
able to make my my decision with a with a uh,
with a clear understanding. Now if that information that they
gave you with some bullshit, but at least you could say,
(11:16):
you know what, I knew what I was getting myself
into when I made that decision. And I mean that's
what that's what people want, is like a chance.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But that makes the question and know what, Doug, I
want to go back to you because it's interesting. I mean,
because you know, when we talk about what Trump was
trying to sell, I think it was a lot of bullshitting.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Factually it was.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It was I mean literally this guy sort of rewriting
history and you know, and his own history and history
of this country as well. And he did spew a
lot of bs. But but but what Marshaun's saying through
the lens of the world we're living in in terms
of how we consume media, et cetera, at least appear
to be telling the truth or at least appeared to
be appeared to be sort of crisp and clear in
(11:56):
terms of diagnosing the problem.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
What did you hear out with those uber drivers? What
were you hearing at the airport?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
What were you hearing as you're checking in these motels?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And no, the same thing. They wanted, more common sense.
They wanted more simplicity, simplicity. Nobody thought what she was
selling was a plan. What Trump was selling was effectively
the American dream.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So she's putting out a plan to saying, you know,
twenty five thousand for this fifty thousand going to write
off for small business. I mean she puts out six
thousand dollars tax credit for a newborns.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
That's not a plan.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
No one understood Trump, No, no one understood that. Trump
talked to the people about this is what we're going
to do. How are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Is very simple? He had, he'd had masterclass in terms
of getting a lot of these people on board with them.
You following me, Yeah, Well, I mean the crowds and
the people. The people didn't believe the plan that she
had and they believe his plan right, wrong and different.
Whether the plan works or doesn't work. He got the
message through, Yeah, take me through your week now since
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she lost. And how many people have emailed you? How
many calls have you gotten? I mean your life?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
The avalanche of emails came about at hour one where
you and I were hanging out looking at the results.
And of course I'm looking not just through the prism
of the presidential We're looking at these mayor's races, We're
looking at ballot initiatives, We're looking at congressional notably congressional
races all across not just California, but across the country
as it relates to control of the House. And then
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obviously what happened in the Senate, which is separate above,
but avalanche of what the hell's going on? Why were
the polls so wrong? I mean not just the public polls,
the private polls. We're privy to some of a lot
of the internal polling, and it was just way off.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So was they putting out falsified information or was they
just fucking screwing numbers to give my fucker the illusion debt.
It was a chance.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, there's so much analysis on polling now because I
mean the old days, the biggest thing was, well, everybody's
moved to their cell phone. They don't answer the phone,
who their phone, and since they're listening to poster answer
ask questions over twenty minutes, So then they started to skew.
All Right, we got to meet people where they are
and their devices, et cetera. We'll do more mobile. There's
been this evolution, but I think Marshawn, what you framed
(14:12):
a moment ago maybe the next iteration of that evolution,
and that is the sort of hyper world, hyper sort
of connected world we are with algorithms and how we're
shape shifted as it relates to what's on TikTok and
Instagram and what's coming in to our feed. And that's
going to require even a deeper level of analysis as
it relates to how you reach people that are actually
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that are not being reached currently by traditional polling.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
So it was hell of shit going on with my
phone right Like I was getting Hella unknown phone calls
from Hella, different numbers. Just I'm talking about like maybe
at least like twenty five calls a day. So I
decided to answer. I decided to answer one day and
I was having a conversation with the lady and I
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mean like, oh, well, are you voting? And you know,
I mean asking me hell a quiz say, I'm like, oh, yeah,
for sure, I'm gonna vote. And now I'm thinking, like
what what the fuck? Like how these people get my number?
What's going on? And so I decided to, you know,
play a game, and I'm like, oh, yeah, well I'm
voting for I forgot what name. I told her, John
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Madden or something. I'm like, oh, yeah, because he's the
best football coach to ever do it. They made a
football game after him and all this. He's like, oh, yeah,
well you need to vote for who she told me
I need to vote for. I need to vote for
the Carmela and you know, this is her plan. And
then you know, I just was like talking hell of
shit to her. But at the end of the day,
(15:41):
I'm just like, this is the lenks that they taken
me to get into it, and then these are just
what normal people who just volunteered.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, I mean this is and what you've just expressed
is the frustration I think the Kamba campaigns. Only my
frustration was all the door knocking, the text messaging, doing
exactly what you just described. And it was second And
I mean, we had an amazing ground game, but it
suggests that that's an old construct that is not just
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about that anymore. I mean, you had Elon Musk out
there doing these million dollar day raffles. He was doing
forty six dollars for everybody whatever it was to sign
a petition supporting quote unquote the Constitution aka Trump in
this context or his context.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
But it's a good reset for not only you, but
the whole party to figure out how do we.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Go from here.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, let's not just move forward the party, it's also
how I move forward with the fifth large's economy in
the world, the size of twenty one state populations combined California.
I mean, the fact is he's coming at us. He
did a true social thing that was just a list
of golden oldies. I mean it was dull by Trump's
standards about all his grievances in California, where he's great
at identifying damn problem. No solutions attached to it, certainly
(17:02):
no partnership. But we were involved in one hundred and
twenty two lawsuits with the Trump administration, so we have
real experience here. I dealt with him for two years,
uh and had conversations with him on a consistent basis.
We had a shockingly good relationship, particularly as far as
the democratic governor goes. But this time just feels different.
I tried to reach out to him, couldn't get through,
(17:24):
and then we went back and forth. That called the
special session, which is just a way of I.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Think he actually really likes you guy. I think the
act you say you reach out to Yeah, I didn't
connect with him.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Normally we get right through. But it's a different time, man.
That was never the case in the past. We didn't
have that problem in the past. But look, I don't
have the we don't have the White House is not
set up. He's in the middle of a transition. I'm
not looking. I'm not there's no I'm not complaining about anything.
The last person I thought he'd pick up the phone
was me. But I did reach out.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
So you're getting an egged the government getting egged by
the president.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Oh he's not ignoring me, brother, He's not ignoring me.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
He made sure loudly.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I'm the new scum I'm in all his sum speeches,
new scum. That was literally seventh grade. I told you
that was a golden Oldie for me. But no, we're
hardly being ignored, and you can't. Look, here's the bottom line.
You can't ignore California. You can't ignore it's a tent pole.
And that's just a fancy way of saying it's I mean,
the economy of the United States so much have it
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emanates out of the state of California, and not just
in terms of innovation, entrepreneurialism, but economic growth and development.
The fact that we are the fifth large economy in
the world anerves to the benefit of the rest of
the nation by definition.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So he gonna be tapping in what you pretty soon
is what it sounds.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, but look, my thing is, you know you guys
know me. I don't care that you disagree with me.
I don't care that I disagree with you. I want
to work with people. I care about people. I'm not
going to talk down to people, talk past people. But
I don't like bullies. I don't like people that attack
vulnerable communities. I don't like someone demeaning other people to
get ahead professionally or politically.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
So with infinite takeover office, what what what can we
what can we expect from from your point of view
with this with with this guy in the uh with
the office, like because I mean, you know the thing
that I do and what I you know, I mean,
you're just saying it, you know. I mean that motherfuckers
really care about people. And you know I stand at
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the forefront for uh, you know, for for my kind
and ship. So when I when I go out and
I I mean, for instance, like you know, we got
a Thanksgiving coming up, and for the last damn there
twenty years, you know, we do a Turkey drive. Like
you know, people is my is my ship? Like I
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like to connect with people. I like to you know,
be able to you know, put people in position who
who are who are you know, are less fortunate and
try to bring you know, a little bit of a
little bit of cheer or you know what I mean joy,
you know, I mean to their life. But with this
dude going and and offers, what does that look like
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for I mean for the country.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Here's the thing for me and Marshaun. I take this
guy at his word, I take him literally about what
he wants to do. He just today he appointed this
former ICE director to be part of his his borders
are and he picked this guy, Stephen Miller, or Californian
to be his deputy chief of staff, who designed all
of the immigration policy under Trump, including that family separation stuff,
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which people sort of seemingly forgotten. So we're just preparing
the state and I hope none of this stuff happens,
and if it doesn't happen, great, and we can work
together with him on areas that you know, that mutually
benefit this country in the world we're trying to build.
But if not, we're going to stand firm and have
the backs of forty million Americans here in the state
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of California. And I'm not gonna you know, he's got
all the power in the world, but you know, we're
not some small, isolated state and we're not going to
be naval gazing either. So we're going to be firm,
and we're going to be aggressive and pushing back. If
you're going to attack vulnerable communities, you're going to talk
down to people. If you're going to try to hurt folks,
escapegoat folks, we're going to call that out and we're
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going to do it from a position of strength, not weakness,
in a state that matters. So that's my state of mind.
But again, it's about an open hand, not a closed fist.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
So you're saying you want to slash the shit out
you want to.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I was about to give you the velvet component of
this glove, which is the people. But the end of
the day, if you care about folks and you demonstrate that,
that's what it's about.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I don't care if they voted for you or not.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Just don't threaten to take away emergency aid because people
didn't vote for you or they're not doing your bidding
like Trump has. My point is it is about people.
And I think you asked the question. I haven't even
answered your damn question. What's the next few years look like?
It's not just a resistance frame. It is about getting
back to basics, and it's about reconciling that disconnect between
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performance and perception as it relates to the economy, and
it's about helping real folks. And so my job is
to do my job policy, focus on people, and keep
it simple stupid, because what I'm hearing from you guys
is these ten point plans. Man, the stuff that I
often talk about these thirty forty minutes speeches. They're not
breaking through anymore. We're not breaking through and people don't
(22:22):
believe it. And they got to see it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And people and by the way, and both sides got
to get together and be nice. I mean the end
of the day, the whole thing about this country being divided,
it was. And like I said, you know what, Republican
get along with DEM's damns, Republicans. We're all we're all equal,
we're all the same. So it's like everyone's got to
get together, get along and grow. But all this bullshit
and fucking hostility stuff's got to go. People are scared
(22:47):
to talk politics. Hopefully this now at least resets things. Yeah,
and at the end of the day, once it resets, Gavin,
then you govern the shit out of California and then
where it goes from here for you, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And what the hell are you doing, Marshawn? There is
an open seat for mayor of Oakland, California.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Town.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Brother, Hey, what are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Do We got the squad ready?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
By the way, you.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Better get your cleats on, man, because there's one hundred
damn twenty days after the after this election has called
her when she resigns her I don't know there's some
nuance with with recall what I but I got one
hundred and twenty days.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
After been keeping me updated and told me that he
got a he got a strong team that he putting
together from me calling in the big guns to get
everything situated. So should when that time come, I'm gonna
be ready, my boy.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
The beauty of this is this. But Trump won on
a simple message. Okay, when more Shawn comes in.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
There's Oakland great again.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Well, no, he's gonna he's gonna come in there really.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Make Oakland grand? Is that the best he can do?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I got a better one than that. What's that what
he's gonna do? By the way, he's gonna put on
the six minutes interview and they're going to talk about
the metaphor and Marshawn's going to say, what do you
have to do to win the state? When the city
of Oakland's going to say, I'm gonna run through a
motherfucker's face over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over again. I want
to run through motherfucking face.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And Doug and now you speak in my language, my boy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Hey, by the way, let's simplify this thing. We got
jobs in Oakland, we got crime defects, we got you,
we got you sports, we got keeping the streets safe.
Let's simplify this more, Shawn with the direct message to people, Okay,
in the streets, let's get a let's get a tougher
da in therecus on encampments and we'll knock this thing out.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Car thefts, burglaries, quality of life. I want to see
a green and clean I want parks, playgrounds, kids.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Outside, ride nets, on the hoops, just to st thing.
I mean that go a long way.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So is that the platform? What do you got? What's
your what have you worked out? This is real now, Marshawn,
this is real. Destiny is calling man.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I told I told you I put my people man
Like when I go home and I see all of
this shit, like between the violence, the homelessness. Yeah, I mean,
like you said, I remember, it was a time used
to see kids. You feel me, those flood in the parks. Yeah,
I mean waiting for on the side I got next,
(25:25):
I got next, waiting waiting to get on the whole court. Yeah,
I mean kickball games, the whole nine like that sense
of community like that we most definitely are missing, Like
I would love to see that back in my you
feel me in my city like that. Shit goes a
long way. But the thing is that's I mean, that's
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what that's what made me, That's what raised me. Like
you feel me though, real ojs who really looked out
for the youth though, you know what I mean, instead
of going and you know what I mean, putting some work
in their hands, like telling them like, nah, fuck that
that shit ain't right to do. Take your ass to school,
you know what I mean, Go get this education. I mean,
go make something yourself. I don't really see ojes pushing
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that type of shit because the ol g's that was
either you know, I mean dead or in jail. So
I mean, you know that that real sense of community right,
love that.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
No, and also too, Galvin, if Marshawn, if Marshawn decides
even not to run, he can make a massive impact
on this city right now where it's going.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
All right, No Mian associally, I mean, but but what
he just said is so important. I mean it goes
back to the what you know, what how do we
turn the page? What's the future look like back to
this sense of community I said all the time, and
you were saying, you know, what we have in common
is much stronger than our difference. Is what you were
saying earlier about Democrats Republicans. I mean, we all want
to be protected, which goes back to public safety. All't
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be respected, No one wants to be talked down to
or pass to, and we all want to be connected
to something bigger than ourselves. And I think that is
a sense of community, and I think that was a
big part of what happened Team Trump and the MAGA
movement is about community, and I think there's something powerful
in that frame. But there's something powerful I think in
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terms of communicating that to your point wherever. Meaning doesn't
have to be through the lens of being in a
position of formal authority as mayor. You can communicate that
as community leaders or leaders that express their moral authority
like Marshawn is right now. I think one of the
things I'm looking forward to most with this podcast is
hearing from listeners, seeing what's on their mind, what they
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have to say. So we got a new email address.
Folks can just tune in and check in and also
tune us up on subjects and issues, questions that we
can get right back to them on.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No doubt, and we want all that feedback, good, bad,
and different questions, whatever it may be. And Gavin, by
the way, that email is politicking p O L I
T I C K I N at iHeartRadio dot com.
That's politicken at iHeartRadio dot com. Send us your question,
send us your feedback.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
We'll get back to you.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Every week on our shows. And we appreciate you guys
tuning in as always, we love you.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Have a good day, Okay,
I think one of the things I'm looking forward to
most with this podcast is hearing from listeners, seeing what's
on their mind, what they have to say. So we
got a new email address. Folks can just tune in
and check in and also tune us up on subjects
and issues questions that we can get right back to them.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
On that email. Is politicking p O L I T
I C K I N at iHeartRadio dot com. That's
politicking at iHeartRadio dot com.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Man, what's hand him? Man? You got Marshawn, Bisma Lynch.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Doug Hendrickson, and Gavin Newsome and you're listening to politics
you know to be?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You known to be?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And cue the music, Come, come, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Doug. How you doing, Brother.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Good one one O, one three, Gavin More, Lena Drive.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
The weather is corny as fuck.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Hey, No, we're in the iHeart Studio, Sarah. This is
where I used to go when I was mayor. This
was the same studio I went in with like I
don't I can't remember as like kay whatever that what
I was this was This was the center.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Of the universe.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
This was old school studio. I think I did some
shows here before too.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You ain't do no damn show.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
What kind of shows?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I had a little morning call in show, but with
ninety seven to three back in the day, and I
was I did a week with Gless Radio. Yeah, a
weekly agent. I did a weekly agent segment on there,
talking about life as an agent, talking about sports and
culture and all those different things.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I don't know if I believe that. Marshaun, I never
heard that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Man, You know what, leave it leave it up a
dug man. He was the first motherfucker to step foot
on the moon.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yes, well, by the way, we see, by the way,
just by the way.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Seriously, I had my own damn radio show. You don't
even remember that. When I remember your radio show, I'm serious, right.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, Govin, just just a deal so people can understand.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It was the Gvin Newsom show.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
But right back, well just so, just so listeners, a
gavy gig, but listening to your stand. I've known you
now probably going on thirty years, So thirty years I've
known you, and we've done radio shows. We both failed statistics,
and we both like our tequila. And by the way,
I thought we established statistics. It's not about stats. It
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ain't about numbers.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Where the fuck you be coming up with this year? Right?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, it's interesting more sean just to kind of kind
of retable the things here. I was on a h
I was on a seven day road trip. I was
in Pennsylvania. I was in DC, Maryland, Virginia, and I
did my own straw pole back then. And I was
talking to uber drivers at airport clerks, people at the hotels,
and I had a bad feeling. And so I go
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in to see Gavin the nighted election. I get there
around four with I think I had two bottles tequila.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think you had drank a bottle.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, anyway, so I come in with my tequila and
I said, Batman, you may have a problem.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, you were pretty definitive. I was completely apps. I
was confident we were gonna win.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You said you were talking to airport clerks and uber
drivers and you should have been talking to the Dophins
and the Whinos.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well I did talk to whino.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
No, not talking to yourself, but some real Doughphins and
real Whinos. They would have they would have told you
what's they know? Everything?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
No, it was interesting, Gavin, so anyway, So I brought
I come in there. I tell you that in about
an hour into it, you looked at me and you said.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, we're toast. Holy shit.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So take me take me through your mindset as we
get into that first hour.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, and Marsha, I'm gonna go back to you. What
were the what were as you described them, dope fiends?
What were they telling you on the ground?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
What was on the ground?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean, I assume that's where you were with these guys,
But what I mean what, No, honestly, what were you hearing?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Did you hear the same thing Doug was hearing from
the his Uber driver and you know, this sort of
his elite lifestyle as he's on the road.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean I did. Man. They was telling me y'all
fucked up, and I was like, damn, career, we fucked up?
Like that? Why you say that? They like, because Gavin
was playing nice ball, My shit, he should have got
out there and started running. And I was like, so
you know, here, I like to blame everything on Gavin,
So I'm blaming that shit on you too.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I'll take it up. Trust me.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's not my first time being blamed for a presidential outcome.
Just go back to two thousand and four. But let
me but it's interesting, Doug. We'll step back as Doug.
Doug's not kidding, he was. You've been pretty pessimistic for
a few months. But you've been traveling over the country
and you've been primarily in these swing states doing your
day job.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
And I had been because, by the way, I remember,
I'm the public state school kid, common sense kid, and
common sense I came into this whole thing saying we
got a fucking problem.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
The difference is, and this is the difference, Marshaan, is
Doug's experience, your experience very different than mine. I'm out
there on the Swing States. I'm out there in Bucks
County in Pennsylvania. I'm out there in Michigan. I'm on
a blue bus, meaning a blue bus tour. I'm with
other Democrats. Everything's a bubble, and so you don't really
have a sense of what's real and what's not. The
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crowds are organized, the crowds are enthusiastic, but it's a
bunch of Democrats. You're not randomly walking in to a
coffee store that hasn't been pre selected as the coffee store.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You will randomly walk in.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You're going to the VP lounge of the concerts seat
of the general mission.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, you're you know, you're going to a coffee store where
you know the owner is a Democrat and a support
of Democrats in the past. So there's this there's this
false sense when you're out there as a surrogate on
half a campaign.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
So you don't pick that up.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
What I did pick up with a lot of enthusiasm,
a lot of interaction. And but I did, I did
tell you?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What did I tell you?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I said, there's like I said, it was interesting. I
coined its like five eyes. I kept tearing obviously inflation,
inflation scars, people are pissed interest rates. That was about
credit card and car loans, that was about rent and mortgages.
Heard a lot about immigration, undoubtedly. The third eye, fourth
which was interesting, was sort of this incumbency that we
(06:08):
kind of owned this, and that was sort of like,
if people are angry, there's gonna be a little bit
of payback. And of course you heard the other particularly
in Michigan and other places, the issues around Israel, which
were not insignificant. I'd say if the sixth seventh igh
which would be the invasion in.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Ukraine as well.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So there was just that anxiety and that was sort
of a that was a consistent theme of conversation we
would have even with other Democrats.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But look, we got schelacked. That was that was it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It was no as kicking.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And I mean we lost all seven swing states. We
lost the popular vote first time in twenty years, second
time in thirty six years, which shows what an anomaly
that well, that's I mean, that's I think you've got
a better pulse in that respect. I mean what you
just said in terms of your interaction. You've been saying this, Marshawn,
You've been saying this for a while. You've been feeling
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some name. Right, we talk about Oakland. The mayor of
Oakland was recalled. The DA in Alameda County was recalled.
I mean, this is unprecedented to lose a DA and
a mayor. And but you felt that you knew that
you saw that coming. You felt that you've expressed anxiety.
You were pretty candid about Harris and what your friends
(07:19):
were saying about Kamala.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
There was what was your sense.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I mean, Trump took advantage and I want to we
don't have to get deep into into Trump versus Kamala.
I mean it's more just you know, how everyone's feeling
post the election. But Trump obviously made a big play
for black mail votes in particular and made real problem.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I mean, he just started talking to the people. He
started talking to him in a way in which yeah,
I mean they can understand. Yeah, I mean, he leveled
with him and it was one of the biggest things.
Like I was telling you when I have conversations with you, likewise,
you know, I mean, how we even in this position
to be doing this this show is yeah, I mean
you never talked at me, you never talked down to me.
(08:00):
We talk on the level where you know, I mean,
it's understood. And then for things that I don't understand,
it's not a sensor where I feel like I'm just
I'm just an idiot, to where I can ask you
questions and you know, you'll you'll let me know what's up.
But you have somebody who basically was reasoning with the people,
(08:22):
and I mean, you know, regardless to if he gonna
do what he said, don't do, or I mean, whatever
the case may be. But just the fact that when
you get up there and speaking and you can understand it.
You can kind of feel where he's coming from.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
There's so much punitry and I'm trying to you know,
John Stewart, I thought nailed it. In the night of election,
he put out a little clip he said, whatever is
said tonight in the next couple of days is going
to be proven wrong. And then he rolled the clips
of the last few elections Democrats have lost, and everybody's
kind of said the exact opposite of what ultimately revealed
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itself over time. And that's why I think it's important,
especially guys like me, just absorb it. But it will,
it will present itself over time. What this election was
really about, this moment was about their trend lines, obviously
as it relates to working class folks. Now it's multiracial
and we've slip seen that slip away. But Marshaun, you
said something that is just it's not even it's so
simple and deserves more I think attention. He spoke in
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a way that you can understand versus my ten point
plan on a sequel reform or something.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Right. Yeah, I mean you know that that shit is important,
especially with you know, I mean Cat William say, like
year twenty twenty four is the year of the truth.
And I mean, you know, with a lot of individuals
being woke and with how you know, individuals are interacting
with social media in the way that they get they
(09:48):
knows and you know, I mean you gotta remember, like
everybody is is hyper focused on you know, I mean
getting to the bottom of things. You know, when you
got somebody who you know talking in circles or you
know what I mean, just saying shit to be saying shit.
But then when you get an individual who just come
(10:09):
out blatant here and say what it is like you
know what I mean, motherfuckers, say you feel me, I'd
rather be be slapt with the truth, being kissed with
a you know what I mean, with a lie and
falsify our information and you know what I mean, like
just give it to me straight you know what I mean,
I'll be able to deal with it. But then it
goes to go to your you know, your conversation when
you're just talking about how individuals are dealing with uh
(10:32):
uh the coach and shit like you know what I mean,
as a player, like I would rather the coach come
and tell me straight up what it is rather than
sugar coat that ship. And then I mean, you know what,
because you can pick up the phone and you can
get whatever. However, and then with all of the clips
that have been put out, like it resonate with the
(10:55):
with the people, and you can get behind that. And
then at least when you know, if if it don't
go the way you know, I mean that it was
supposed to. Is like with shit. You know, I was
able to make my my decision with a with a uh,
with a clear understanding. Now if that information that they
gave you with some bullshit, but at least you could say,
(11:16):
you know what, I knew what I was getting myself
into when I made that decision. And I mean that's
what that's what people want, is like a chance.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But that makes the question and know what, Doug, I
want to go back to you because it's interesting. I mean,
because you know, when we talk about what Trump was
trying to sell, I think it was a lot of bullshitting.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Factually it was.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It was I mean literally this guy sort of rewriting
history and you know, and his own history and history
of this country as well. And he did spew a
lot of bs. But but but what Marshaun's saying through
the lens of the world we're living in in terms
of how we consume media, et cetera, at least appear
to be telling the truth or at least appeared to
be appeared to be sort of crisp and clear in
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terms of diagnosing the problem.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
What did you hear out with those uber drivers? What
were you hearing at the airport?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
What were you hearing as you're checking in these motels?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And no, the same thing. They wanted, more common sense.
They wanted more simplicity, simplicity. Nobody thought what she was
selling was a plan. What Trump was selling was effectively
the American dream.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So she's putting out a plan to saying, you know,
twenty five thousand for this fifty thousand going to write
off for small business. I mean she puts out six
thousand dollars tax credit for a newborns.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
That's not a plan.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
No one understood Trump, No, no one understood that. Trump
talked to the people about this is what we're going
to do. How are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Is very simple? He had, he'd had masterclass in terms
of getting a lot of these people on board with them.
You following me, Yeah, Well, I mean the crowds and
the people. The people didn't believe the plan that she
had and they believe his plan right, wrong and different.
Whether the plan works or doesn't work. He got the
message through, Yeah, take me through your week now since
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she lost. And how many people have emailed you? How
many calls have you gotten? I mean your life?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
The avalanche of emails came about at hour one where
you and I were hanging out looking at the results.
And of course I'm looking not just through the prism
of the presidential We're looking at these mayor's races, We're
looking at ballot initiatives, We're looking at congressional notably congressional
races all across not just California, but across the country
as it relates to control of the House. And then
(13:21):
obviously what happened in the Senate, which is separate above,
but avalanche of what the hell's going on? Why were
the polls so wrong? I mean not just the public polls,
the private polls. We're privy to some of a lot
of the internal polling, and it was just way off.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So was they putting out falsified information or was they
just fucking screwing numbers to give my fucker the illusion debt.
It was a chance.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, there's so much analysis on polling now because I
mean the old days, the biggest thing was, well, everybody's
moved to their cell phone. They don't answer the phone,
who their phone, and since they're listening to poster answer
ask questions over twenty minutes, So then they started to skew.
All Right, we got to meet people where they are
and their devices, et cetera. We'll do more mobile. There's
been this evolution, but I think Marshawn, what you framed
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a moment ago maybe the next iteration of that evolution,
and that is the sort of hyper world, hyper sort
of connected world we are with algorithms and how we're
shape shifted as it relates to what's on TikTok and
Instagram and what's coming in to our feed. And that's
going to require even a deeper level of analysis as
it relates to how you reach people that are actually
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that are not being reached currently by traditional polling.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
So it was hell of shit going on with my
phone right Like I was getting Hella unknown phone calls
from Hella, different numbers. Just I'm talking about like maybe
at least like twenty five calls a day. So I
decided to answer. I decided to answer one day and
I was having a conversation with the lady and I
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mean like, oh, well, are you voting? And you know,
I mean asking me hell a quiz say, I'm like, oh, yeah,
for sure, I'm gonna vote. And now I'm thinking, like
what what the fuck? Like how these people get my number?
What's going on? And so I decided to, you know,
play a game, and I'm like, oh, yeah, well I'm
voting for I forgot what name. I told her, John
(15:20):
Madden or something. I'm like, oh, yeah, because he's the
best football coach to ever do it. They made a
football game after him and all this. He's like, oh, yeah,
well you need to vote for who she told me
I need to vote for. I need to vote for
the Carmela and you know, this is her plan. And
then you know, I just was like talking hell of
shit to her. But at the end of the day,
(15:41):
I'm just like, this is the lenks that they taken
me to get into it, and then these are just
what normal people who just volunteered.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, I mean this is and what you've just expressed
is the frustration I think the Kamba campaigns. Only my
frustration was all the door knocking, the text messaging, doing
exactly what you just described. And it was second And
I mean, we had an amazing ground game, but it
suggests that that's an old construct that is not just
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about that anymore. I mean, you had Elon Musk out
there doing these million dollar day raffles. He was doing
forty six dollars for everybody whatever it was to sign
a petition supporting quote unquote the Constitution aka Trump in
this context or his context.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
But it's a good reset for not only you, but
the whole party to figure out how do we.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Go from here.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, let's not just move forward the party, it's also
how I move forward with the fifth large's economy in
the world, the size of twenty one state populations combined California.
I mean, the fact is he's coming at us. He
did a true social thing that was just a list
of golden oldies. I mean it was dull by Trump's
standards about all his grievances in California, where he's great
at identifying damn problem. No solutions attached to it, certainly
(17:02):
no partnership. But we were involved in one hundred and
twenty two lawsuits with the Trump administration, so we have
real experience here. I dealt with him for two years,
uh and had conversations with him on a consistent basis.
We had a shockingly good relationship, particularly as far as
the democratic governor goes. But this time just feels different.
I tried to reach out to him, couldn't get through,
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and then we went back and forth. That called the
special session, which is just a way of I.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Think he actually really likes you guy. I think the
act you say you reach out to Yeah, I didn't
connect with him.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Normally we get right through. But it's a different time, man.
That was never the case in the past. We didn't
have that problem in the past. But look, I don't
have the we don't have the White House is not
set up. He's in the middle of a transition. I'm
not looking. I'm not there's no I'm not complaining about anything.
The last person I thought he'd pick up the phone
was me. But I did reach out.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
So you're getting an egged the government getting egged by
the president.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Oh he's not ignoring me, brother, He's not ignoring me.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
He made sure loudly.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I'm the new scum I'm in all his sum speeches,
new scum. That was literally seventh grade. I told you
that was a golden Oldie for me. But no, we're
hardly being ignored, and you can't. Look, here's the bottom line.
You can't ignore California. You can't ignore it's a tent pole.
And that's just a fancy way of saying it's I mean,
the economy of the United States so much have it
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emanates out of the state of California, and not just
in terms of innovation, entrepreneurialism, but economic growth and development.
The fact that we are the fifth large economy in
the world anerves to the benefit of the rest of
the nation by definition.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So he gonna be tapping in what you pretty soon
is what it sounds.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, but look, my thing is, you know you guys
know me. I don't care that you disagree with me.
I don't care that I disagree with you. I want
to work with people. I care about people. I'm not
going to talk down to people, talk past people. But
I don't like bullies. I don't like people that attack
vulnerable communities. I don't like someone demeaning other people to
get ahead professionally or politically.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
So with infinite takeover office, what what what can we
what can we expect from from your point of view
with this with with this guy in the uh with
the office, like because I mean, you know the thing
that I do and what I you know, I mean,
you're just saying it, you know. I mean that motherfuckers
really care about people. And you know I stand at
(19:18):
the forefront for uh, you know, for for my kind
and ship. So when I when I go out and
I I mean, for instance, like you know, we got
a Thanksgiving coming up, and for the last damn there
twenty years, you know, we do a Turkey drive. Like
you know, people is my is my ship? Like I
(19:39):
like to connect with people. I like to you know,
be able to you know, put people in position who
who are who are you know, are less fortunate and
try to bring you know, a little bit of a
little bit of cheer or you know what I mean joy,
you know, I mean to their life. But with this
dude going and and offers, what does that look like
(20:02):
for I mean for the country.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Here's the thing for me and Marshaun. I take this
guy at his word, I take him literally about what
he wants to do. He just today he appointed this
former ICE director to be part of his his borders
are and he picked this guy, Stephen Miller, or Californian
to be his deputy chief of staff, who designed all
of the immigration policy under Trump, including that family separation stuff,
(20:28):
which people sort of seemingly forgotten. So we're just preparing
the state and I hope none of this stuff happens,
and if it doesn't happen, great, and we can work
together with him on areas that you know, that mutually
benefit this country in the world we're trying to build.
But if not, we're going to stand firm and have
the backs of forty million Americans here in the state
(20:49):
of California. And I'm not gonna you know, he's got
all the power in the world, but you know, we're
not some small, isolated state and we're not going to
be naval gazing either. So we're going to be firm,
and we're going to be aggressive and pushing back. If
you're going to attack vulnerable communities, you're going to talk
down to people. If you're going to try to hurt folks,
escapegoat folks, we're going to call that out and we're
(21:11):
going to do it from a position of strength, not weakness,
in a state that matters. So that's my state of mind.
But again, it's about an open hand, not a closed fist.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
So you're saying you want to slash the shit out
you want to.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I was about to give you the velvet component of
this glove, which is the people. But the end of
the day, if you care about folks and you demonstrate that,
that's what it's about.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I don't care if they voted for you or not.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Just don't threaten to take away emergency aid because people
didn't vote for you or they're not doing your bidding
like Trump has. My point is it is about people.
And I think you asked the question. I haven't even
answered your damn question. What's the next few years look like?
It's not just a resistance frame. It is about getting
back to basics, and it's about reconciling that disconnect between
(22:00):
performance and perception as it relates to the economy, and
it's about helping real folks. And so my job is
to do my job policy, focus on people, and keep
it simple stupid, because what I'm hearing from you guys
is these ten point plans. Man, the stuff that I
often talk about these thirty forty minutes speeches. They're not
breaking through anymore. We're not breaking through and people don't
(22:22):
believe it. And they got to see it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And people and by the way, and both sides got
to get together and be nice. I mean the end
of the day, the whole thing about this country being divided,
it was. And like I said, you know what, Republican
get along with DEM's damns, Republicans. We're all we're all equal,
we're all the same. So it's like everyone's got to
get together, get along and grow. But all this bullshit
and fucking hostility stuff's got to go. People are scared
(22:47):
to talk politics. Hopefully this now at least resets things. Yeah,
and at the end of the day, once it resets, Gavin,
then you govern the shit out of California and then
where it goes from here for you, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And what the hell are you doing, Marshawn? There is
an open seat for mayor of Oakland, California.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Town.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Brother, Hey, what are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Do We got the squad ready?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
By the way, you.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Better get your cleats on, man, because there's one hundred
damn twenty days after the after this election has called
her when she resigns her I don't know there's some
nuance with with recall what I but I got one
hundred and twenty days.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
After been keeping me updated and told me that he
got a he got a strong team that he putting
together from me calling in the big guns to get
everything situated. So should when that time come, I'm gonna
be ready, my boy.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
The beauty of this is this. But Trump won on
a simple message. Okay, when more Shawn comes in.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
There's Oakland great again.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Well, no, he's gonna he's gonna come in there really.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Make Oakland grand? Is that the best he can do?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I got a better one than that. What's that what
he's gonna do? By the way, he's gonna put on
the six minutes interview and they're going to talk about
the metaphor and Marshawn's going to say, what do you
have to do to win the state? When the city
of Oakland's going to say, I'm gonna run through a
motherfucker's face over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over again. I want
to run through motherfucking face.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And Doug and now you speak in my language, my boy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Hey, by the way, let's simplify this thing. We got
jobs in Oakland, we got crime defects, we got you,
we got you sports, we got keeping the streets safe.
Let's simplify this more, Shawn with the direct message to people, Okay,
in the streets, let's get a let's get a tougher
da in therecus on encampments and we'll knock this thing out.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Car thefts, burglaries, quality of life. I want to see
a green and clean I want parks, playgrounds, kids.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Outside, ride nets, on the hoops, just to st thing.
I mean that go a long way.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So is that the platform? What do you got? What's
your what have you worked out? This is real now, Marshawn,
this is real. Destiny is calling man.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I told I told you I put my people man
Like when I go home and I see all of
this shit, like between the violence, the homelessness. Yeah, I mean,
like you said, I remember, it was a time used
to see kids. You feel me, those flood in the parks. Yeah,
I mean waiting for on the side I got next,
(25:25):
I got next, waiting waiting to get on the whole court. Yeah,
I mean kickball games, the whole nine like that sense
of community like that we most definitely are missing, Like
I would love to see that back in my you
feel me in my city like that. Shit goes a
long way. But the thing is that's I mean, that's
(25:46):
what that's what made me, That's what raised me. Like
you feel me though, real ojs who really looked out
for the youth though, you know what I mean, instead
of going and you know what I mean, putting some work
in their hands, like telling them like, nah, fuck that
that shit ain't right to do. Take your ass to school,
you know what I mean, Go get this education. I mean,
go make something yourself. I don't really see ojes pushing
(26:08):
that type of shit because the ol g's that was
either you know, I mean dead or in jail. So
I mean, you know that that real sense of community right,
love that.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
No, and also too, Galvin, if Marshawn, if Marshawn decides
even not to run, he can make a massive impact
on this city right now where it's going.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
All right, No Mian associally, I mean, but but what
he just said is so important. I mean it goes
back to the what you know, what how do we
turn the page? What's the future look like back to
this sense of community I said all the time, and
you were saying, you know, what we have in common
is much stronger than our difference. Is what you were
saying earlier about Democrats Republicans. I mean, we all want
to be protected, which goes back to public safety. All't
(26:47):
be respected, No one wants to be talked down to
or pass to, and we all want to be connected
to something bigger than ourselves. And I think that is
a sense of community, and I think that was a
big part of what happened Team Trump and the MAGA
movement is about community, and I think there's something powerful
in that frame. But there's something powerful I think in
(27:08):
terms of communicating that to your point wherever. Meaning doesn't
have to be through the lens of being in a
position of formal authority as mayor. You can communicate that
as community leaders or leaders that express their moral authority
like Marshawn is right now. I think one of the
things I'm looking forward to most with this podcast is
hearing from listeners, seeing what's on their mind, what they
(27:29):
have to say. So we got a new email address.
Folks can just tune in and check in and also
tune us up on subjects and issues, questions that we
can get right back to them on.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No doubt, and we want all that feedback, good, bad,
and different questions, whatever it may be. And Gavin, by
the way, that email is politicking p O L I
T I C K I N at iHeartRadio dot com.
That's politicken at iHeartRadio dot com. Send us your question,
send us your feedback.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
We'll get back to you.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Every week on our shows. And we appreciate you guys
tuning in as always, we love you.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Have a good day, Okay,
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Marshawn Lynch
Doug Hendrickson
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