August 22, 2023 • 44 mins
Jacqueline studied while Kate moved on. Mood is in disrepair and products were purchased out of pocket. Brows. Dessert and Aperol addiction. London Bridge is Falling Down. Kate finally watched The Deepest Breath. Calling all London Hags, Kate will be in town doing her show. Jacqueline was confronted with bovine ideas at home and advised on a smoothie. The linking of guilt and pleasure. Candy Bomb and bad coffee. Photos attached to reviews. Makeup and memories from far away. Two incarnations, sequentially. The craving to do the forbidden. The piano and the voice. George's Girls.
Products mentioned: Glossier, Celsius, Mark Hyman Vital Proteins Pro, ARMRA, Timeline Nutrition, FlowKey, Canopy, Dr Dennis Gross, PureMist, Dr Loretta, Dieux
Formally and sternly begging for: Swoon, Breville Bambino, Goop x Lyma Serums
Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kate Berlan.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Jacqueline Novaka.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
And this is poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between
two obsessive friends.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Two untamable intellects.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
This is our hobby, This is our hell, This is
our naked desire for free products. This is poog. Today's
topics looselie.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Speaking, brown water, durational lie.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Dude, Hey is that Iliah?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's Glassier?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Great? Wait did I get those? The answer is.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
My glossier package took mere months. They'd forgotten all about me.
Little did I know you were enjoying product after proud.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And they sent you that ship. I never got that
because we made lists. Oh god, I'm stupid. I hate
being so stupid. I don't have that.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well what I you know? I studied well, you probably
move forward with your life things of value. Cool. So
my mouth, my mouth is the sound of six pieces
of paper flipping through a book. All right, let's that's
a cracking and celsius. I wish oh okay. I my
(01:10):
mood right.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Now hanging on by throizedly due to.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The fact that I just went downstairs to to It's
part of what I was late. There was a Chris,
are we out of Celsius. Okay, I couldn't believe it. It
was exactly like what am I watching right now? Oh yeah,
Painkiller about oxyiconton. Yeah, it was like a scene out
of that. I know.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I have a friend's husband who's been added to Celsius
and has like the thick can that you can't even get, No,
you have to go to like they like administer them
at hospitals. It's like it's like a big Celsius can.
It's like a double like a coke can.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
By the way, Mark Hyman sells vital proteins like pro
on his site and I was like, what what like professional,
like like colorless medical bottle but branded. So I was like,
what are we going to do? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I need that drink.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
By the way, swoon we begged for haven't heard a word?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh I haven't. I don't think I got that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You did get it? I bought it?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh pe oh be out of the pocket. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I tried something before getting on. You know the thing
where you hold the liner to the edge of your
nose and you know, oh, to get the eyes stick
it up where the iris ends, to try to figure
out where the top of the brow hook land. So
that you can be successful in life and love. Yeah,
(02:34):
well my arch is way too close to the middle
of my face, so trying to.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Do you want that or the I meant to trying
to get it to.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Where I'm trying the pencil things. I'm trying to force
it to a new place. Yeah, you've already got you, bitch.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I've been I've been experiencing.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Your lot to discuss. There's a lot to discussion.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I know it's a lot. Well, first of all, I've
been experiencing that thing. What's it called, like when you're
like crathed and para just kidding, no, parasynthetic nervous.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The excitement around the words shouted in freuda A.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, when you going like twenty one and you learn
that for the first time. Yeah, you know the thing
where you're frozen? Is it the parasynthetic nervous system? Who
fucking cares? Honestly at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well, we'll get to that, necond.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yes, the thing when you're frozen, you know, like everything
you have to do with frozen. I've been having some
freezy stuff going on. I also fell off TM and
I'm crawling back on my hands and knees, yeah, because
I really did feel I felt the difference. Also, I
want to talk about when you have dessert like five
nights or no, when you have dessert like fourteen nights
(03:41):
in a row, and then you then you need it
every night.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's what I'm experiencing expected to not and I was
thinking of it feels like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Was thinking about what you on said about the it's
like something in your stomach is screaming for sugar, because
I had the experience where I had like basically dessert
fourteen nights in a row, and suddenly I was like,
I need sugar now. Like it was like a true
talk about oxy celsius, all of it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And I'm waiting for the doc. I actually I was
actually imagining like really dramatic uh doc and then dramatized
series about sugar where it's like fully like they fully
go there and they're like it was sugar the whole time.
I call it what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, yeah, well I couldn't believe it, and I found myself.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Talking about it banana banana.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I found myself like your allowed wucking.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You climbed to the trap tree.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I was sucking down like an april spreads boom. Another
apperl spreads boom because I just wanted sugar. Oh you know,
I mean sorry, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Wrap myself into towel, got a little chili. I'm just curious.
I spent sixteen, you know, units of effort trying to
grab some maga and what is the results? This is hell?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I see a results. Fair, look at this, Look at
the I'm experiencing rapid aging. I saw some photographs of
myself from February and I went, oh, I think London
Bridge is falling down.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah yeah, rockod bye.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Baby like and by the way, whatever, yeah, but I'm
like I need. Last night I got in bed, I
was with my lima, which I've been neglecting.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Oh you lima. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I hit the lima between them, and then I turned
on the Deepest Breath, which jack UN's been talking about. Listen.
I turned it on and I go, oh, so this
is an art film. This is an unbelievable doc. Guys.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I mean you get why I was.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I fell asleep because I was so tired. But I'm
going to pick it up because I fell asleep early,
like eleven, We'll go up three thirty thinking about it
was almost about to throw it on. I'm like, hey,
don't do that, just go back to sleep. It was
in me already.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You sent me an image which I believes from the
first two at the very beginning. Yeah, and she's coming
back up along the line right. Did you turn it
off right when you sent me that image? No? You
even make it to the surface.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, I made it to the surface.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Okay, So no, I know I'm not gonna say yeah,
I'm pretty sure I already I already even described it.
Oh right down on a piece of paper before. Oh
my mood, talk about your mood. When are you back
in la I missed you?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And then also I do need to put out a
formal calling all London hags. I'm coming to the Soho
Theater a full month for you all September doing my
show Kate. So if you're in London, if you have
friends there, please send them caper.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I met a few caperland dot com. Thank You're going
to be the rage of London, toast of the town.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I do love London.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And no, she's not getting drinks with you after I'll
say that now, So Kate Merch.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I need to secure to Heini Broth miso.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Now what did I just see? Oh miso in was
it a Mark Imon smoothie?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
What?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
At my parents' house, they have the Vita mixes, you know.
I see my dad warming up for a smoothie. Okay,
I go, Dad, I have armor with me. You got
to add that. I go, that's the thing we're talking about, poog,
what is it? I fell silent, okay, not because I
didn't think my dad and my mom was and I go, oh, yeah,
the bovine. I didn't feel like saying bovine cock in
(07:33):
my kitchen like we do on the podcast. And my
mom was like, oh, yeah, that's disgusting something like. I
was like, Mom, it's not actually bovine. I was like,
not sure what it is. Let's stick with bovine. And
I realized, you know, sneak it into his movie. I go,
(07:56):
I go, what else is going in there? I see
him pulling out cranberries. I'm like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I'm all right, all right, I see beat Powder. I'm
like terrified, as you like. I just I worry. But
he's doing good work, good gold and milk. I'm sweetened, great,
great guantine powder. I said, now we're gonna get throw
some collagen in there. He goes, what's that?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Does Greg even listen to the podcast?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I know m And my mother goes, will you I
hear her, you give me a little shot of that
when you make yours a little shot of the smoothie, goes,
I'll either make you the drink or I'm not. I
want to get the amounts. You know these are right
ghost like you put one timeline nutrition in and it's like, okay,
And this is where I worry for my mother. And
(08:40):
then and then I open a closet and I see
a jar of smuckers I don't even know what you
call them, sugared gummy candy being marketed as Kelseyum plus
D three. Yeah, yeah, totally. And I took it out
of the thing. I threw it in the garbage. Okay,
I wanted it was full. Yeah, I wanted it resting
(09:02):
on top of the garbage. Now it's recyclable, so normally
I would have to dump out the gummies, dump out
the gummies and then put the put the other thing
in the recycling. But I wanted it laying visibly. Yeah,
to see a full bottle of something in the garbage.
Then I felt a little like this might this might
be too aggressive, And.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Even though I bond her to them more deeply.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Right exactly, so I pulled it back out because as women,
once we link guilt and pleasure or fucked or then
whenever we see guilt we think it's pleasure. So so
I then I lifted them out, put them back in
the closet, and then did a public showing the next day.
I took them out and shook them into the trash
(09:45):
like a Morocca.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, and what did your mom do?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well? First it was you know, that's the only way
I'll take it, okay, Yeah, in the couch. Then I
start putting it whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well, you're not taking it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's not biover. Yeah, then you're not taking taking it
Not only is not available, it's tucked inside of a
bomb that's gonna go, a candy bomb.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah. What do you do when you go to a
coffee shop and the coffee is not good? All right,
let's take I went to my local purveyor, I went
to walk alone. Okay, Okay, I got I go. Can
I get a cafela? Sometimes I feel naughty and I go,
I'll have a cafe with oat milk. Because oat milk,
because we know it's poison, but goddamn is it creamy?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
A little red can?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So's not a latte in la. I take two steps
out the front door of the coffee shop. Oh so
it's water. No, it's completely tea weak And I just
I didn't I didn't want to go back.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I think I would say water dressed in brown.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, brown water, And I just what do you even do?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I consider going to a neighboring coffee shop, getting a
shot of espresso and dumping it in there.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
There, valuing I think, saving the existing liquid.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, it's just dumb.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I would just go to the coffee shop and get
a fresh one.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I mean, go back in and complain and say, hey,
you guys.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Depends on how much energy you have to stand in
your truth.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Here's what I should have done, Here's what I can do. Hey,
I'm so sorry to do this. But I'm so sorry
to do this. I'm in here a lot, and oh
my fraid, this is just a bit weak. So possible
maybe something went wrong in the canister back there, Like,
what could it be? That's what I'll do next time.
This morning, I didn't have time. I made a shit
cup of coffee here at home just doesn't set the
(11:30):
mood right day. No, no, no, sorry, the bad coffee
shop coffee was recently this morning, I woke up made
a bad cup of home coffee, which hurts, which brings
me to an official begging. We have a big begging
section right here, and I'm gonna launch right in. I
want a Brevel. I want an espresso maker. I don't
expect them to send the fanciest what twelve hundred dollars one?
(11:53):
That's huge, honey, I hardly have the counter space. But
it's been brought to my attention that there's something. I'm
gonna look it up. It's like a little mini miniature
one and I need to find it. Okay, I found it.
I found it. What I want is the Brebel Bambino.
Hold on, it's so cute, right, and what it does
(12:13):
it's great because doesn't grind the beans for you. You're
gonna have to grind them separately.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's amazing. We've gone the home shopping network, I know.
And what it does is it's amazing because.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Check this out. Save the biggest spress of flavor and
luxurious crima.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Wait, let me see it by the way, Oh, all
serious value.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'll do the ad. Listen to this the Bambino. Yeah,
I'm reading save a big estpress of flavor and a
luxurious Crima based top, all from a slim machine designed
to save maximum counter space. Sting ding ding, I have
counter space, majorly deficient in counterspace engineered by the experts
of rebel. You're actually have taken that out. Whatever the
point is.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
They capitalize advanced brewing technology. No did they title caps it?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Okay, good, because that's a technique, you know, fact like
it's a kind of technology. Oh there, they're here, they
do it. I want a Thermojet register.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I want this, and I'm begging for it. And it's
retailing at three point fifty. I see that it's coming
in a lot of different colors. Oh no, it's not.
It's coming in silver. That's fine. I want this.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Where the hell did you see the what you perceived
as color?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I scrolled to the bottom and they they're advertising a grinder, right,
two hundred dollars for a grinder.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Jesus Christ. No, here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say.
The terror and the courage of them when they put
their open reviews on the bottom of their product page
on their website. It's bold. How do you feel about
the thrill and chill in spine? When I see that
there are photos attached to reviews? Well, you're going to
(13:45):
see it here on like Amazon or something. Okay, yeah,
you scrolled out. What did you say?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I said, are you afraid you're going to see someone's genitals?
Why do you get scared?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I love nine days ago? Sorry nine days ago. We
upgraded to the Brevel Bambino. We absolutely love the machine
with the krema M So.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Are you seeing pictures?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
What are you on?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm sorr Revel dot com. I'm on Williams Sonoma dot
com forwards last Bravo. Okay, interesting, so you're in a different,
different thing. But here's what I'm talking about. Okay, are
there pictures?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Okay, thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
There's a moment that happens. You're distracted when you're on
the website. It's fine, but when you scroll down, okay,
and suddenly you see someone's hideous interior, right yeah, yeah, yeah,
of course, because in the end, our interiors are hideous. Okay, yeah,
just inherently, like the second you take a photograph. I
mean some aren't. I guess you know, if you devote
your life to it. But I mean like like suddenly
you're like, I'll see this photo and I'll go, oh, no, okay, yeah,
(14:43):
and there's a quality of these photos that I can't
tell at first. It's like a lot of times people
are moved to use photo evidence when something's fucked up.
So suddenly you'll see a piece of the part that
you saw above in the glorious ad. Now you see
it in someone's hand and you just see, you know,
something fucked up. Okay, every once in a while you
(15:06):
school down and it's a loving review with a photo.
But anyway, it's just it's like you see, it's reduced
to what it's like.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I love this espresso machine, and then it's eclipsed by
the cat box and like the scatter dare you yes?
It's like in the espresso machine.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, I'm talking about when they complain and they reveal
the product's flaws and you're just like.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
When you live like an animal, so you use your
expressial machine as a cat box and you're upset that
it's not working.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So I wrote my makeup away and I remember writing
it down and knowing it was something we needed to
talk about. Makeup away, I've realized I I'm in a crisis.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, Okay, let's get through it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I think I want to be one of these people
that only cares about my work. Okay, I thought you
were maybe I already? Yeah, Okay, I want to take
it to a new level.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I want a massive personality shift. Okakay, okay, from the
inside out.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I want to take my own skeleton of a personality.
I don't mean that my personality is mere bones. I
mean I'm that overload personality. It's situated inside me as
firmly as a skeleton is. I want to grabbed by
the rings, I mean the rips. Yeah, I can't. I
want to throw it in the river.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Do you want a new skeleton personality system?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Personality? Yeah? I guess this isn't the right word because
it's too outward face and it's to sun sign.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So you want to you want a personality? Personality is
a confusing exact. You want to? You want to fundamentally
shift who you are? Is that what I'm hearing your
approach to life? I mean the soul you keep the
soul in there. You've got a great tap the.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Soul, keep the memories. However, I'd like to be fifteen
feet away from those damn memories. Yeah okay, yeah, not
like I have so much trauma, just mean, like you know,
attachment and then yeah, I want to clear it out.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
You know I used to read about these these things there,
this thing where it wasn't possession, but it was like
this idea that there's some people that instead of dying
and then a new person comes in. It like or reincarnation,
that there's two incarnations that happen in one body, okay, sequentially,
so the body doesn't die, just a new one comes in. Whoa,
that's shocking.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I never heard that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, like they get two in one sequential.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I didn't know that was possible. Sounds scary, right, sounds
pretty scary. I'm around age sixty. The soul leaves and
a new one enters.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yes, okay, it's called something And a lot of people
don't want to talk about it. They don't want to say,
they don't want they don't want to. They say, Grandma's
had a change.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, grandma's out there anymore. Remember, I want
to hear about.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
New soul, unto strange. Whoa I can do?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Do?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
The song? But they was in an Apple ad many
years ago.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I want to hear more about your personality, your your
center overhaul, you ripping out your.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Whole turning to self help once again, the way I
am calmbing through my own libraries. Oh you know what
I really want to do? Read read some Marian Woodman too.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay, okay, what's it called. It's a Jungian text, Marian
Addiction to Perfection and then the Still Unravished Bride.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I knew you'd freak out for the subtitle. I think
I've brought it up before.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Incredible.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Do you want to hear? Do you want to just
all open to a page and you'll hear marginalia.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
There's one. So there's a lot about food and whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Oh, here we go, baby, here we go.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's exactly what we're just talking about. Okay, first of all,
look look at look at my various emphasies.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Oh yeah, that's good, that's good. Okay, she's drawn a
big exclamation point next to this.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
All right, let's see. Uh, there is in fact a
criminal mentality at work. If I scream is forbidden, then
they will have one cone and hate themselves for the
rest of the day. If chocolate macaroons are spilled on
the supermarket shelf, they'll have a handful. Okay. Wow, if
this this beaver has looked that carefully, it is clear
(19:16):
that almost all the food they eat is stolen, even
from their own refrigerators. Oh okay, whatever, this is a
little This is exactly what I was hoping for. I
was hoeing for a little more abstract. But let me
just let me just let me just okay, Okay. The
craving to do the forbidden often comes from a lifelong
relationship with the negative mother. Okay, as an archetype, let
(19:36):
me just try to find this thing. There's a point
where she says, like God is like God becomes the muffin. Oh, right,
here we go. The projection of the perfect was once
on God. When God quote died, that perfection was often
projected onto the husband. And now the terrible truth is
that in many lives that projection has been taken off
the husband and put onto a muffin. Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And then down further my next highlight. But what happens
when these innate spiritual longings are not structured within an
interpersonal framework such as the church could offer. The muffin
cannot replace the divine wafer, nor can alcohol replace the
divine spirit, nor can starving replace a religious fast. When
our animal and spiritual signals are confused, bizarre behavior results.
(20:25):
The emptiness nose and the wolf prowls until some kind
of ritual is performed. If it is a compulsive ritual,
it can become nothing less than a hurricane swirling its
victim head long and drawn consciousness. The natural spiritual hunger,
if not fed by the sacred, is trapped in the demonic.
That's there, it is, folks, stay it again, not taking
responsibility for your shadow anyway, It's always a risk when
(20:49):
you turn to the text. Well, when you just decide
to pull a you know, prepare for the episode. I
guess find the find that for the correct path passage.
But still you can tell there's something there.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh, there's definitely something there.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I've turned to the piano in a way, so you know,
I can kind of play the piano like I have
some basic whatever and I can play all the scales.
I can, you know, form the chords, okay, and I
always sit down and just try to like figure it
out myself a little bit, like that's sort of been
(21:40):
the past, a little bit of lessons when I was
a kid, and then I asked my dad, like, Dad, like,
how do I form an A minor seven?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
What is this?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You know what I mean? How do the seventh?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Again?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Whatever? I always forget. It's like it's like it's processed
by learning things like once every five years, like a
new piece gets in. When I sit at the piano,
I go into a complete absorption state as I try
and learn.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You're absorbed in the actual activity.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
In the in the action completely.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Maybe there's this secondary thinking that can happen during it,
but it is complete absorption. And you know, if I
started seriously now, I could play for the next fifty years. Absolutely,
So I downloaded an app. It always starts with that
low key and it's working, No, and it's not, and
it's you know, you start with songs and and I'm
(22:31):
building on on the knowledge it's okay, and I'm you know,
obviously one day in and already thinking about getting a
full piano.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
People give those away though they are given those away.
They're around.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, they have those everywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Can you imagine coming over and I play piano and
you sing, we sing, Oh my Greatest fear. Yea cocktail
and we sing of course, screaming into the night, a
real piano party. Imagine that could be fun. I struggle,
of course with singing. Well, it wouldn't be one of
those settings where it's about.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You know, singing, it's about going off or not. It
would be like pure ecstatic. I could maybe I could
lose myself singing with you. I think I think I
could completely.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, it wouldn't be about performance, well I know, it
would be about the voice. And it would be me
stumbling along, okay and like us getting a little more.
You know what I started with? You know what I
started with? Hello, darkness, mild friend. Okay, that's what I'm
sitting at my piano playing my parents piano, which is
the first part of.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And I'll post video great as we went the voice
who was I was talking to someone who was telling
me that she has a YOUNGI and voice teacher. Can
you fucking imagine Wait wait, yeah, sweetheart, I'm ready. Yeah,
I know he's in New York. I might need for
and you know what he says, for so I love this,
(24:01):
listen to this. I love this. Doesn't believe in vocal
warm ups. He's like they're bullshit. Hell yeah, And he
goes like, losing your voice it's spiritual. He's like, if
you're losing your voice, it's not about your voice, Like yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Mean meaning it's it's a He's like, it's not complex,
it's a symptom.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I mean, I don't know the details. This is like
some details over dinner that absorbed quickly. It's like, yeah,
but I just know that she said that. He's like, yeah,
you don't need to do vocal warm ups. And losing
your voice is about something else. It's not like doing
vocal warms. It's going to prevent you from losing your voice. Interesting,
I'm thinking about taking I got a little freaked out
because I have a pyramidst for like when you do
(24:39):
a bunch of shows, yeah, you know, need to steam.
But then I'm like, that thing is plastic? Am I
just like I know, freebasing plastic. It kind of freaks
me out. Dude, Dude, dude, I might not take it
to London because I'm scared.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Dude, I think it's got to be steams it's got
to be steams in the shower nightly or well, you know,
I was traveling shows with my canopy, remember, oh my god,
of course I have my canopy and a suitcase. I
was plugging it. Oh no, you know what I was
using too, the doctor Jennis Gross facial mask as my
(25:13):
as my steamer had it going beside my bed.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, he he's using that.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I mean, actually, it's an interesting question. Is there some
kind of steam and hiller situation out there that is,
you know, pure steel.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Well, that's what I'm asking for, a stainless steel because
I guess the ideas the steel will get too hot
you burn your freaking nose off.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well, glass, I don't think. But that's not the part
that's the concern. It's the I think it's really the
reservoir of the water.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, I think I think I might not even take it.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
What about those things that you stick the you know,
those like travel humanifiers that it's like you stick it
in a water bottle or you stick it in water.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Okay, real, Yeah, it's real. Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I could technology of generating steam, but I would say
turn on the shower.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Turn on of course a shower. Sure, but I'm talking
about like if you're really are eating.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Then I would say clean the pyramidst I can't remember
is the permids, the one that has caps.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I have the capsules and it really feels good. I
mean there were many times it deeply soothed me. And
I was doing it like twice a day. I really
needed to. I was like waking up pyramisting.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
For one though, if you have the canopy going at
all times in your room, then you're having a base
layer of environment. It's not going to dry you out
so much that then you need to apply the acute face.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I see, I see, okay, okay, okay, And.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
You trust the cleanliness of the canopy.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I love the canopy.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So this woman being like you got yeah, I throw
my canopy filter out every week.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It was like, what that's crazy?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Like the whole point was that you don't have to
do that.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, that woman's sick.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh you know what I saw goop x Lima. Oh yeah,
cerums and I saw it because you send it to me.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I faked out. I saw Lima. So the woman who
invented Lima in a group store with a serum and
a moisturizer. They were in two bronze canisters and she
was talking about them and I said, I want those.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Now, you know what I got to say, I really
appreciated someone from doctor Loretta. Mm hmm rea shat. Okay,
they hurt us. This is next level. I just want
to brands procurears. They heard us complaining about the problems
with ferulic you know, Salami scented skincare, and they said,
(27:33):
you know, hey, you know, we have a serum that
has been shown to be as effective as those kinds
of formulations. I want to try it. And that's where
I say, that's a listener, we go send it on
through and the brand that's listening.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, doctor Loretta has been very good to the podcast
and very learned. Yeah, very good to the podcast. Doctor
Loretta is the advisor for Douce Skin and that's an
exciting clab. Yeah, collab to think about that, that's significant. Huge.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Wait, can you kind of see from here that the
brow is more Yeah, there's more brow than usual a
little bit, but it's not it's not overwhelming though. Are
you familiar my concept about doing your brows from fifteen
feet away from the mirror? Okay, oh, that's what it was.
I wrote that makeup away is this concept I have
of doing your makeup and like twenty feet away or
(28:24):
doing your makeup from the distance that you're going to
be engaging with the world. Okay, so think of it.
It's like, I think the model that everyone thinks is
get as close as you can with as right you
find detail as possible with the biggest, you know, blow
up mirror, and then you're gonna do detail work, detail work,
detail work, and you're gonna do it perfect at that
(28:45):
close and then guess what, when you're in twenty feet away,
it's just gonna come all together. But it's a different medium.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, So standing way back from the mirror, So when
they're doing the blush.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You think, what's the makeup for walking down the street?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Clan makeup?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, I'm not sure, but I'll know.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
When I used to try to make the brow perfect
really close up. Yeah, then I'd step back and it
would look like shit, yeah okay, or it would look
like whatever. So instead I would actually step like the
real thing is, I'd step like three feet away and
I'd sort of feather okay from there in shape and
that's that.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's all I got on that imagining walking towards you
from thirty feet and then as you become closer you
revealed to look I mean, because that would just be
about volume. It would just be applying more right, more volume.
Huh would it be about volume? Well, this is the
big question.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I mean more not necessarily, Like from far away, if
you've slathered on a single tone across your face, right,
you may have flattened the face. From far away, Okay,
from far away, you really need your pores. Like you know,
people are shading in dark shadows, dark circles, adding them
(30:08):
because I see it on women. They're like, that's fucking cool.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Really, they're creating dark circles.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's very like to me, it all, it's all like
to me, it's all this like sort of YouTube makeup
tutorial generation that like learns by nine how to apply
like like make up to a precision that is like funereal.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yes, Like these nine year old can dress a corpse. Yes,
they can make a corpse ready to be viewed.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yes, yes, then and they can do like they can
make themselves look like you know, Edward Norton or whatever,
you know, Like they do these things right, right, It's
like it's like a complete The face is a literal
canvas now, yeah right, and it's like I can I
can paint another face onto my face and not metaphorically.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'm not a nine year old girl. I'm paint and norton.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah. And so then you go from that and you go,
what are we doing here? It kind of reminds me
of when I stopped really being impressed by toned fucking legs.
It's like, yeah, if you put in the time on
the treadmill, you can get those. They became devalued to me,
(31:22):
you said, saying, once the tech is there, it's like
just evidence of the labor. That's why being like extraordinarily ripped, right,
really embarrassing. And that's why strange men who are so ripped,
it's like highly ionizes them a way. It's like almost interesting.
It's like the preening. It's like, oh, my preparation, the hours, yeah,
the mirrors, the oils of course.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Oh yeah, oiling up their legs and tits. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Well remember the calf implants of two thousand and six.
Oh wait, it was like it was like a fake muscle,
which is so interesting. Implants a fake muscle. Yeah, we
like implanting fake fat kind of has a It's like
fat is just sort of it's like a different concept
to me. To like suggest that you have built something.
(32:12):
Mm hm mm hmm, Like that's you're talking about the
effortlessness of not seeing the labor. So to do a
calf muscle is like to tell a tale of doing
calf lists right right, right?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Like to have looked like you put in the work
at the gym as a bodybuilder, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
It's a durational lie. Yes, but you're still working out right, Yeah.
I haven't for a week, and I really feel it.
Mood plummeted, health plummeted. My trainer was in the Cayman Islands.
Can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, I was like, I miss you.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Come back.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
He's back. I'm seeing him today.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
A week everything changes. Crazy. You're a different person in
the week. Your body is different in a week. Everything
changes in a week. It's fucking crazy. You could say
it's liberating because you go, all I need is a
week to change my life, but in a week, it
just goes. It all goes well the extent I want
to write a book, Give me seven days, I'll change
your life.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Well that's to me what every book, like every book
is suggesting suggest seven yeah, no, right, right right, it's like, yeah,
it's the entire industry.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
And by the way, like the horror is like you
can't because it's all that application. But do they apply it?
We know we need or do we I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I know what I need.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You're going for a whole new makeover, shed, interior, interior. Yeah,
I want to be what's the new person going to be?
Like you said, they're going to be career obsessed more?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No, I mean right right, it's what that was the
sort of separate thing that was sort of about, like
giving over to being like those characters in the beginning
of movies whose values are out of whack and by
the end they learn whatever the opposite. HM, Like, you know,
I'm not I'm always like I use a little more
(34:19):
person Act one. Wait what, I'm always jealous of the
Act one asshole who's like stomping through their life, not
going to the you know, kids baseball game. I'm like,
that's what I want to be.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Do you want to be the deadbeat?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah? I want to be, Like I guess I'm yearning
to forget to lose track of that. That little girl's
full of wonder. Wait where'd she go? I'm like, get
her out. I want to have I want to fully
transform into the the jaded Uh. Success that. Then then
(34:58):
it has to come back around to the other side.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Right, you want to be like you want to be
trying to remember? Yes, her the messy girl? Yeah, I think, Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I think it's like I've embodied or I've I've never forgotten,
you know what I mean, Like I've never fully hit
the wall to come back around the other side. Yeah,
I want to forget. I want to forget to remember again.
(35:38):
I know it'll perk me up. Let me solve a
problem for you. Oh you know I love that.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Oh okay, well here's a question for you if you
were me. So, if I'm leaving, if I'm doing this
big trip, I basically have a week to get everything
that I might need. When are you doing your I
gotta go to Sophora to do kind of a makeup hall,
get a couple of things I'm running low on for
the show. When are you going to the Grove?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, that's the thing. I go to the grove like
every night.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Where the fuck, are you get back to la we
go to the grove together. It'd be so fun, blue
ribbon sushi at the grove with me. When are you back?
Five four three two?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I think next week. I think I don't have a
plane ticket.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I was thinking about hitting the grove.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I want to might go twice, Okay, I don't know
about it.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
If I roll in, I I don't need any ship.
And then I came home, I go, I need it.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I need it.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to do two.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Then I go back. But it just becomes a kind
of pilgrimage.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Of I told you. I think I said this on
poog already when I got the benefit twenty four hour browjel,
which I like, and I bought it and it was
in an empty It was in an empty box. Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I talked about that, right, And I wondered why you
didn't feel the weight?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Well, I thought something was off, which is the most
maddening part. And you're like, this was weird about this,
and just took it up to the register, paid for
a full price. And what's gonna happen when I go,
I'm gonna bring the empty box. I'm gonna go. We've
got a huge problem here. They're gonna have to get
the manager over. It's gonna be a whole fucking thing.
I'll have to talk to the headquarters.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I think they're not gonna believe you.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I don't know. I've got to believe.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I think they won't believe you on the third.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Time, right, right right, It'll go in my file. Well,
I'm excited to finish the deepest breath. I was completely stunned,
like it.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I'm mimbing for Kate.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
No, no, no, no, I'm mimbing for Kate. The the
last ten meters, you knowing what meters are in the
context of the of that sport. Well, it's a big day.
I've got therapy, My trainer's back from the Cayman Islands.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I am going to go shop, uh for a wedding
and I have a wedding week drum up excitement to
purchase clothing. And I really find it challenging, of course, Yeah,
what's it for? How do I get inspired? Two? What's
(38:21):
it about?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck is it?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I've got a wedding this weekend, not like a friend,
like a family friend, you know, that kind of it,
two different energy.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I'm actually really excited to mingle with some of the adults.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
It's sort of you going, oh, is that the Is
that the adult? I mean, is that the uncle? That's a.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You know, I'm really excited because my former kynecologist will
be there. Oh really, wait, shout out doctor Jubelle George.
I don't know why I'm protecting shot at George. I'm
excited to see George. Yeah's excited you she's a former
patient of mine. Oh, we'll kind of talk to you guy,
(39:07):
I know. Yeah, Well everyone's gonna know only one of
the best guy knows in town. Oh here's a horror Wait,
I have a quick horrifying story. How many women? How
many women are wedding a wedding or George's girls along,
including my mother.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
She's like ninety eight, right, He's not.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Only he's in his late seventies and mid sev George's
girls also going into the office for what I wanted,
George's girls disgusting.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Sorry, Oh my god, that would be awful. Are you
stick it off on? Calling him George? Like I'd say
to the reception, I was like, oh, does George have
anything open in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, it's a jar. You know, I know she's in.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Wait, listen to this. I have a horrifying, quick, horrifying
gynecology story. Yeah, my mom was telling me. She's like,
my mom, I love my mom was telling me my
mom's my mom loved her gynocologists.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
This kind of cologist was then retiring, This guy of collegist,
he just really really.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Knew how to ask her as distracting question is the
cold speculum? You know, I just thinking about college? Well,
so what's it like being a comedian an how we're
approaching the service?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Wait, wait, go tell me, tell me.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I'm really sorry, this is horrifying. So my mom had
this kind of collegist. He was retired, and he's like,
don't worry, I've got you covered. We're gonna send you
to this guy. So my wife goes to it who
my daughter goes to He is the best in the business. Whatever.
My mom goes and has like a just a meeting
with him. They don't even do an exam. It's just
like meeting with.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Sitting across the desk.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
So she meets him. She's like, this guy's great wonderful.
A couple months later, class action lawsuit against this motherfucker.
He's been like, no, sexually assaulting women for like four
thousand years, And now why the hell did Georgie did
not recommend him? Someone else recommended him? Oh okay, sorry George, Yeah, careful,
(41:44):
But can you fucking believe he was like the toast
of the town. Meanwhile he's like glovelessly finger blasting people
like I don't know what was going on, but Harry,
what's really crazy too? My mom got a check because
there was such a huge class action lawsuit. Everyone ever
sing nineteen dollars or two hundred, No, it was like
eleven hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Okay, wow for once. It's it's meaning she never went
to him. I mean god, physically just had to chat
across the desk.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Can you believe it? And that's the thing about these motherfuckers, they,
I mean, they're right. And there's that's if you If
you really want it, Like I'm talking about molested and
abuse women for years, all you have to do is
go through medical school, be first in your class, gain
the respect and trust of all of your colleagues, and
then it's you're fucking in.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Well.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
The issue though, is it's like, yeah, I think that
has to be. They don't all want it. They don't know,
you know, they don't want it gloved and in an office.
That's the problem, Like it's that won't that won't do it?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Does it? For somemer, for every psychopath, you know, it's
a liarally nasir right, it's like his fucking whole thing.
It was a brilliant grit. It was a brilliant scheme.
He'd be like, I'm gonna talk to the parents. There's
the fucking examle all the whole time, right, these fuckers
firing squad for them all, Okay, gotta go, gonna go
make an omelet love you.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Firing squad, except we all know we're shooting him because
the firing squad is the ten guys with guns. No
one knows who who's bullet landed, right right right, This
would be firing squad.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Every bullet what it should be. You take one beam,
you get one shot. Boom, it's the first one. He's
screaming and everyone just goes down and no one knows
who killed him. You dressed, you just trust for the
final blow.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, imagine being on the firing squad like back in
the day, I don't know in France, okay, and you're like,
you know it's you. You know you nailed it because
you know the other guys are ship. Yeah yeah, although
some of them, probably I'm just realizing, tried not to hit.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Some of them had a relationship with God and probably
aimed for there. Like I don't want to I don't
want to kill. Okay, I truly have to leave right now.
I love you all right, love you bye bye. That
was pood. If you enjoyed pooh, please subscribe, rate, and review.
(44:27):
If not, we will press charges.
Hi, I'm Kate Berlan.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Jacqueline Novaka.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
And this is poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between
two obsessive friends.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Two untamable intellects.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
This is our hobby, This is our hell, This is
our naked desire for free products. This is poog. Today's
topics looselie.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Speaking, brown water, durational lie.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Dude, Hey is that Iliah?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's Glassier?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Great? Wait did I get those? The answer is.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
My glossier package took mere months. They'd forgotten all about me.
Little did I know you were enjoying product after proud.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And they sent you that ship. I never got that
because we made lists. Oh god, I'm stupid. I hate
being so stupid. I don't have that.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well what I you know? I studied well, you probably
move forward with your life things of value. Cool. So
my mouth, my mouth is the sound of six pieces
of paper flipping through a book. All right, let's that's
a cracking and celsius. I wish oh okay. I my
(01:10):
mood right.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Now hanging on by throizedly due to.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The fact that I just went downstairs to to It's
part of what I was late. There was a Chris,
are we out of Celsius. Okay, I couldn't believe it. It
was exactly like what am I watching right now? Oh yeah,
Painkiller about oxyiconton. Yeah, it was like a scene out
of that. I know.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I have a friend's husband who's been added to Celsius
and has like the thick can that you can't even get, No,
you have to go to like they like administer them
at hospitals. It's like it's like a big Celsius can.
It's like a double like a coke can.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
By the way, Mark Hyman sells vital proteins like pro
on his site and I was like, what what like professional,
like like colorless medical bottle but branded. So I was like,
what are we going to do? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I need that drink.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
By the way, swoon we begged for haven't heard a word?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh I haven't. I don't think I got that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You did get it? I bought it?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh pe oh be out of the pocket. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I tried something before getting on. You know the thing
where you hold the liner to the edge of your
nose and you know, oh, to get the eyes stick
it up where the iris ends, to try to figure
out where the top of the brow hook land. So
that you can be successful in life and love. Yeah,
(02:34):
well my arch is way too close to the middle
of my face, so trying to.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Do you want that or the I meant to trying
to get it to.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Where I'm trying the pencil things. I'm trying to force
it to a new place. Yeah, you've already got you, bitch.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I've been I've been experiencing.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Your lot to discuss. There's a lot to discussion.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I know it's a lot. Well, first of all, I've
been experiencing that thing. What's it called, like when you're
like crathed and para just kidding, no, parasynthetic nervous.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The excitement around the words shouted in freuda A.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, when you going like twenty one and you learn
that for the first time. Yeah, you know the thing
where you're frozen? Is it the parasynthetic nervous system? Who
fucking cares? Honestly at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well, we'll get to that, necond.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yes, the thing when you're frozen, you know, like everything
you have to do with frozen. I've been having some
freezy stuff going on. I also fell off TM and
I'm crawling back on my hands and knees, yeah, because
I really did feel I felt the difference. Also, I
want to talk about when you have dessert like five
nights or no, when you have dessert like fourteen nights
(03:41):
in a row, and then you then you need it
every night.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's what I'm experiencing expected to not and I was
thinking of it feels like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Was thinking about what you on said about the it's
like something in your stomach is screaming for sugar, because
I had the experience where I had like basically dessert
fourteen nights in a row, and suddenly I was like,
I need sugar now. Like it was like a true
talk about oxy celsius, all of it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And I'm waiting for the doc. I actually I was
actually imagining like really dramatic uh doc and then dramatized
series about sugar where it's like fully like they fully
go there and they're like it was sugar the whole time.
I call it what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, yeah, well I couldn't believe it, and I found myself.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Talking about it banana banana.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I found myself like your allowed wucking.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You climbed to the trap tree.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I was sucking down like an april spreads boom. Another
apperl spreads boom because I just wanted sugar. Oh you know,
I mean sorry, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Wrap myself into towel, got a little chili. I'm just curious.
I spent sixteen, you know, units of effort trying to
grab some maga and what is the results? This is hell?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I see a results. Fair, look at this, Look at
the I'm experiencing rapid aging. I saw some photographs of
myself from February and I went, oh, I think London
Bridge is falling down.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah yeah, rockod bye.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Baby like and by the way, whatever, yeah, but I'm
like I need. Last night I got in bed, I
was with my lima, which I've been neglecting.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Oh you lima. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I hit the lima between them, and then I turned
on the Deepest Breath, which jack UN's been talking about. Listen.
I turned it on and I go, oh, so this
is an art film. This is an unbelievable doc. Guys.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I mean you get why I was.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I fell asleep because I was so tired. But I'm
going to pick it up because I fell asleep early,
like eleven, We'll go up three thirty thinking about it
was almost about to throw it on. I'm like, hey,
don't do that, just go back to sleep. It was
in me already.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You sent me an image which I believes from the
first two at the very beginning. Yeah, and she's coming
back up along the line right. Did you turn it
off right when you sent me that image? No? You
even make it to the surface.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, I made it to the surface.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Okay, So no, I know I'm not gonna say yeah,
I'm pretty sure I already I already even described it.
Oh right down on a piece of paper before. Oh
my mood, talk about your mood. When are you back
in la I missed you?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And then also I do need to put out a
formal calling all London hags. I'm coming to the Soho
Theater a full month for you all September doing my
show Kate. So if you're in London, if you have
friends there, please send them caper.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I met a few caperland dot com. Thank You're going
to be the rage of London, toast of the town.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I do love London.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And no, she's not getting drinks with you after I'll
say that now, So Kate Merch.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I need to secure to Heini Broth miso.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Now what did I just see? Oh miso in was
it a Mark Imon smoothie?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
What?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
At my parents' house, they have the Vita mixes, you know.
I see my dad warming up for a smoothie. Okay,
I go, Dad, I have armor with me. You got
to add that. I go, that's the thing we're talking about, poog,
what is it? I fell silent, okay, not because I
didn't think my dad and my mom was and I go, oh, yeah,
the bovine. I didn't feel like saying bovine cock in
(07:33):
my kitchen like we do on the podcast. And my
mom was like, oh, yeah, that's disgusting something like. I
was like, Mom, it's not actually bovine. I was like,
not sure what it is. Let's stick with bovine. And
I realized, you know, sneak it into his movie. I go,
(07:56):
I go, what else is going in there? I see
him pulling out cranberries. I'm like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I'm all right, all right, I see beat Powder. I'm
like terrified, as you like. I just I worry. But
he's doing good work, good gold and milk. I'm sweetened, great,
great guantine powder. I said, now we're gonna get throw
some collagen in there. He goes, what's that?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Does Greg even listen to the podcast?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I know m And my mother goes, will you I
hear her, you give me a little shot of that
when you make yours a little shot of the smoothie, goes,
I'll either make you the drink or I'm not. I
want to get the amounts. You know these are right
ghost like you put one timeline nutrition in and it's like, okay,
And this is where I worry for my mother. And
(08:40):
then and then I open a closet and I see
a jar of smuckers I don't even know what you
call them, sugared gummy candy being marketed as Kelseyum plus
D three. Yeah, yeah, totally. And I took it out
of the thing. I threw it in the garbage. Okay,
I wanted it was full. Yeah, I wanted it resting
(09:02):
on top of the garbage. Now it's recyclable, so normally
I would have to dump out the gummies, dump out
the gummies and then put the put the other thing
in the recycling. But I wanted it laying visibly. Yeah,
to see a full bottle of something in the garbage.
Then I felt a little like this might this might
be too aggressive, And.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Even though I bond her to them more deeply.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Right exactly, so I pulled it back out because as women,
once we link guilt and pleasure or fucked or then
whenever we see guilt we think it's pleasure. So so
I then I lifted them out, put them back in
the closet, and then did a public showing the next day.
I took them out and shook them into the trash
(09:45):
like a Morocca.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, and what did your mom do?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well? First it was you know, that's the only way
I'll take it, okay, Yeah, in the couch. Then I
start putting it whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well, you're not taking it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's not biover. Yeah, then you're not taking taking it
Not only is not available, it's tucked inside of a
bomb that's gonna go, a candy bomb.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah. What do you do when you go to a
coffee shop and the coffee is not good? All right,
let's take I went to my local purveyor, I went
to walk alone. Okay, Okay, I got I go. Can
I get a cafela? Sometimes I feel naughty and I go,
I'll have a cafe with oat milk. Because oat milk,
because we know it's poison, but goddamn is it creamy?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
A little red can?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So's not a latte in la. I take two steps
out the front door of the coffee shop. Oh so
it's water. No, it's completely tea weak And I just
I didn't I didn't want to go back.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I think I would say water dressed in brown.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, brown water, And I just what do you even do?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I consider going to a neighboring coffee shop, getting a
shot of espresso and dumping it in there.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
There, valuing I think, saving the existing liquid.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, it's just dumb.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I would just go to the coffee shop and get
a fresh one.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I mean, go back in and complain and say, hey,
you guys.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Depends on how much energy you have to stand in
your truth.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Here's what I should have done, Here's what I can do. Hey,
I'm so sorry to do this. But I'm so sorry
to do this. I'm in here a lot, and oh
my fraid, this is just a bit weak. So possible
maybe something went wrong in the canister back there, Like,
what could it be? That's what I'll do next time.
This morning, I didn't have time. I made a shit
cup of coffee here at home just doesn't set the
(11:30):
mood right day. No, no, no, sorry, the bad coffee
shop coffee was recently this morning, I woke up made
a bad cup of home coffee, which hurts, which brings
me to an official begging. We have a big begging
section right here, and I'm gonna launch right in. I
want a Brevel. I want an espresso maker. I don't
expect them to send the fanciest what twelve hundred dollars one?
(11:53):
That's huge, honey, I hardly have the counter space. But
it's been brought to my attention that there's something. I'm
gonna look it up. It's like a little mini miniature
one and I need to find it. Okay, I found it.
I found it. What I want is the Brebel Bambino.
Hold on, it's so cute, right, and what it does
(12:13):
it's great because doesn't grind the beans for you. You're
gonna have to grind them separately.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's amazing. We've gone the home shopping network, I know.
And what it does is it's amazing because.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Check this out. Save the biggest spress of flavor and
luxurious crima.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Wait, let me see it by the way, Oh, all
serious value.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'll do the ad. Listen to this the Bambino. Yeah,
I'm reading save a big estpress of flavor and a
luxurious Crima based top, all from a slim machine designed
to save maximum counter space. Sting ding ding, I have
counter space, majorly deficient in counterspace engineered by the experts
of rebel. You're actually have taken that out. Whatever the
point is.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
They capitalize advanced brewing technology. No did they title caps it?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Okay, good, because that's a technique, you know, fact like
it's a kind of technology. Oh there, they're here, they
do it. I want a Thermojet register.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I want this, and I'm begging for it. And it's
retailing at three point fifty. I see that it's coming
in a lot of different colors. Oh no, it's not.
It's coming in silver. That's fine. I want this.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Where the hell did you see the what you perceived
as color?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I scrolled to the bottom and they they're advertising a grinder, right,
two hundred dollars for a grinder.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Jesus Christ. No, here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say.
The terror and the courage of them when they put
their open reviews on the bottom of their product page
on their website. It's bold. How do you feel about
the thrill and chill in spine? When I see that
there are photos attached to reviews? Well, you're going to
(13:45):
see it here on like Amazon or something. Okay, yeah,
you scrolled out. What did you say?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I said, are you afraid you're going to see someone's genitals?
Why do you get scared?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I love nine days ago? Sorry nine days ago. We
upgraded to the Brevel Bambino. We absolutely love the machine
with the krema M So.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Are you seeing pictures?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
What are you on?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm sorr Revel dot com. I'm on Williams Sonoma dot
com forwards last Bravo. Okay, interesting, so you're in a different,
different thing. But here's what I'm talking about. Okay, are
there pictures?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Okay, thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
There's a moment that happens. You're distracted when you're on
the website. It's fine, but when you scroll down, okay,
and suddenly you see someone's hideous interior, right yeah, yeah, yeah,
of course, because in the end, our interiors are hideous. Okay, yeah,
just inherently, like the second you take a photograph. I
mean some aren't. I guess you know, if you devote
your life to it. But I mean like like suddenly
you're like, I'll see this photo and I'll go, oh, no, okay, yeah,
(14:43):
and there's a quality of these photos that I can't
tell at first. It's like a lot of times people
are moved to use photo evidence when something's fucked up.
So suddenly you'll see a piece of the part that
you saw above in the glorious ad. Now you see
it in someone's hand and you just see, you know,
something fucked up. Okay, every once in a while you
(15:06):
school down and it's a loving review with a photo.
But anyway, it's just it's like you see, it's reduced
to what it's like.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I love this espresso machine, and then it's eclipsed by
the cat box and like the scatter dare you yes?
It's like in the espresso machine.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, I'm talking about when they complain and they reveal
the product's flaws and you're just like.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
When you live like an animal, so you use your
expressial machine as a cat box and you're upset that
it's not working.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So I wrote my makeup away and I remember writing
it down and knowing it was something we needed to
talk about. Makeup away, I've realized I I'm in a crisis.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, Okay, let's get through it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I think I want to be one of these people
that only cares about my work. Okay, I thought you
were maybe I already? Yeah, Okay, I want to take
it to a new level.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I want a massive personality shift. Okakay, okay, from the
inside out.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I want to take my own skeleton of a personality.
I don't mean that my personality is mere bones. I
mean I'm that overload personality. It's situated inside me as
firmly as a skeleton is. I want to grabbed by
the rings, I mean the rips. Yeah, I can't. I
want to throw it in the river.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Do you want a new skeleton personality system?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Personality? Yeah? I guess this isn't the right word because
it's too outward face and it's to sun sign.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So you want to you want a personality? Personality is
a confusing exact. You want to? You want to fundamentally
shift who you are? Is that what I'm hearing your
approach to life? I mean the soul you keep the
soul in there. You've got a great tap the.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Soul, keep the memories. However, I'd like to be fifteen
feet away from those damn memories. Yeah okay, yeah, not
like I have so much trauma, just mean, like you know,
attachment and then yeah, I want to clear it out.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
You know I used to read about these these things there,
this thing where it wasn't possession, but it was like
this idea that there's some people that instead of dying
and then a new person comes in. It like or reincarnation,
that there's two incarnations that happen in one body, okay, sequentially,
so the body doesn't die, just a new one comes in. Whoa,
that's shocking.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I never heard that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, like they get two in one sequential.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I didn't know that was possible. Sounds scary, right, sounds
pretty scary. I'm around age sixty. The soul leaves and
a new one enters.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yes, okay, it's called something And a lot of people
don't want to talk about it. They don't want to say,
they don't want they don't want to. They say, Grandma's
had a change.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, grandma's out there anymore. Remember, I want
to hear about.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
New soul, unto strange. Whoa I can do?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Do?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
The song? But they was in an Apple ad many
years ago.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I want to hear more about your personality, your your
center overhaul, you ripping out your.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Whole turning to self help once again, the way I
am calmbing through my own libraries. Oh you know what
I really want to do? Read read some Marian Woodman too.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay, okay, what's it called. It's a Jungian text, Marian
Addiction to Perfection and then the Still Unravished Bride.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I knew you'd freak out for the subtitle. I think
I've brought it up before.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Incredible.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Do you want to hear? Do you want to just
all open to a page and you'll hear marginalia.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
There's one. So there's a lot about food and whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Oh, here we go, baby, here we go.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's exactly what we're just talking about. Okay, first of all,
look look at look at my various emphasies.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Oh yeah, that's good, that's good. Okay, she's drawn a
big exclamation point next to this.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
All right, let's see. Uh, there is in fact a
criminal mentality at work. If I scream is forbidden, then
they will have one cone and hate themselves for the
rest of the day. If chocolate macaroons are spilled on
the supermarket shelf, they'll have a handful. Okay. Wow, if
this this beaver has looked that carefully, it is clear
(19:16):
that almost all the food they eat is stolen, even
from their own refrigerators. Oh okay, whatever, this is a
little This is exactly what I was hoping for. I
was hoeing for a little more abstract. But let me
just let me just let me just okay, Okay. The
craving to do the forbidden often comes from a lifelong
relationship with the negative mother. Okay, as an archetype, let
(19:36):
me just try to find this thing. There's a point
where she says, like God is like God becomes the muffin. Oh, right,
here we go. The projection of the perfect was once
on God. When God quote died, that perfection was often
projected onto the husband. And now the terrible truth is
that in many lives that projection has been taken off
the husband and put onto a muffin. Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And then down further my next highlight. But what happens
when these innate spiritual longings are not structured within an
interpersonal framework such as the church could offer. The muffin
cannot replace the divine wafer, nor can alcohol replace the
divine spirit, nor can starving replace a religious fast. When
our animal and spiritual signals are confused, bizarre behavior results.
(20:25):
The emptiness nose and the wolf prowls until some kind
of ritual is performed. If it is a compulsive ritual,
it can become nothing less than a hurricane swirling its
victim head long and drawn consciousness. The natural spiritual hunger,
if not fed by the sacred, is trapped in the demonic.
That's there, it is, folks, stay it again, not taking
responsibility for your shadow anyway, It's always a risk when
(20:49):
you turn to the text. Well, when you just decide
to pull a you know, prepare for the episode. I
guess find the find that for the correct path passage.
But still you can tell there's something there.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh, there's definitely something there.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I've turned to the piano in a way, so you know,
I can kind of play the piano like I have
some basic whatever and I can play all the scales.
I can, you know, form the chords, okay, and I
always sit down and just try to like figure it
out myself a little bit, like that's sort of been
(21:40):
the past, a little bit of lessons when I was
a kid, and then I asked my dad, like, Dad, like,
how do I form an A minor seven?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
What is this?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You know what I mean? How do the seventh?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Again?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Whatever? I always forget. It's like it's like it's processed
by learning things like once every five years, like a
new piece gets in. When I sit at the piano,
I go into a complete absorption state as I try
and learn.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You're absorbed in the actual activity.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
In the in the action completely.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Maybe there's this secondary thinking that can happen during it,
but it is complete absorption. And you know, if I
started seriously now, I could play for the next fifty years. Absolutely,
So I downloaded an app. It always starts with that
low key and it's working, No, and it's not, and
it's you know, you start with songs and and I'm
(22:31):
building on on the knowledge it's okay, and I'm you know,
obviously one day in and already thinking about getting a
full piano.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
People give those away though they are given those away.
They're around.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, they have those everywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Can you imagine coming over and I play piano and
you sing, we sing, Oh my Greatest fear. Yea cocktail
and we sing of course, screaming into the night, a
real piano party. Imagine that could be fun. I struggle,
of course with singing. Well, it wouldn't be one of
those settings where it's about.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You know, singing, it's about going off or not. It
would be like pure ecstatic. I could maybe I could
lose myself singing with you. I think I think I
could completely.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, it wouldn't be about performance, well I know, it
would be about the voice. And it would be me
stumbling along, okay and like us getting a little more.
You know what I started with? You know what I
started with? Hello, darkness, mild friend. Okay, that's what I'm
sitting at my piano playing my parents piano, which is
the first part of.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And I'll post video great as we went the voice
who was I was talking to someone who was telling
me that she has a YOUNGI and voice teacher. Can
you fucking imagine Wait wait, yeah, sweetheart, I'm ready. Yeah,
I know he's in New York. I might need for
and you know what he says, for so I love this,
(24:01):
listen to this. I love this. Doesn't believe in vocal
warm ups. He's like they're bullshit. Hell yeah, And he
goes like, losing your voice it's spiritual. He's like, if
you're losing your voice, it's not about your voice, Like yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Mean meaning it's it's a He's like, it's not complex,
it's a symptom.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I mean, I don't know the details. This is like
some details over dinner that absorbed quickly. It's like, yeah,
but I just know that she said that. He's like, yeah,
you don't need to do vocal warm ups. And losing
your voice is about something else. It's not like doing
vocal warms. It's going to prevent you from losing your voice. Interesting,
I'm thinking about taking I got a little freaked out
because I have a pyramidst for like when you do
(24:39):
a bunch of shows, yeah, you know, need to steam.
But then I'm like, that thing is plastic? Am I
just like I know, freebasing plastic. It kind of freaks
me out. Dude, Dude, dude, I might not take it
to London because I'm scared.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Dude, I think it's got to be steams it's got
to be steams in the shower nightly or well, you know,
I was traveling shows with my canopy, remember, oh my god,
of course I have my canopy and a suitcase. I
was plugging it. Oh no, you know what I was
using too, the doctor Jennis Gross facial mask as my
(25:13):
as my steamer had it going beside my bed.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, he he's using that.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I mean, actually, it's an interesting question. Is there some
kind of steam and hiller situation out there that is,
you know, pure steel.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Well, that's what I'm asking for, a stainless steel because
I guess the ideas the steel will get too hot
you burn your freaking nose off.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well, glass, I don't think. But that's not the part
that's the concern. It's the I think it's really the
reservoir of the water.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, I think I think I might not even take it.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
What about those things that you stick the you know,
those like travel humanifiers that it's like you stick it
in a water bottle or you stick it in water.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Okay, real, Yeah, it's real. Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I could technology of generating steam, but I would say
turn on the shower.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Turn on of course a shower. Sure, but I'm talking
about like if you're really are eating.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Then I would say clean the pyramidst I can't remember
is the permids, the one that has caps.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I have the capsules and it really feels good. I
mean there were many times it deeply soothed me. And
I was doing it like twice a day. I really
needed to. I was like waking up pyramisting.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
For one though, if you have the canopy going at
all times in your room, then you're having a base
layer of environment. It's not going to dry you out
so much that then you need to apply the acute face.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I see, I see, okay, okay, okay, And.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
You trust the cleanliness of the canopy.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I love the canopy.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So this woman being like you got yeah, I throw
my canopy filter out every week.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It was like, what that's crazy?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Like the whole point was that you don't have to
do that.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, that woman's sick.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh you know what I saw goop x Lima. Oh yeah,
cerums and I saw it because you send it to me.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I faked out. I saw Lima. So the woman who
invented Lima in a group store with a serum and
a moisturizer. They were in two bronze canisters and she
was talking about them and I said, I want those.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Now, you know what I got to say, I really
appreciated someone from doctor Loretta. Mm hmm rea shat. Okay,
they hurt us. This is next level. I just want
to brands procurears. They heard us complaining about the problems
with ferulic you know, Salami scented skincare, and they said,
(27:33):
you know, hey, you know, we have a serum that
has been shown to be as effective as those kinds
of formulations. I want to try it. And that's where
I say, that's a listener, we go send it on
through and the brand that's listening.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, doctor Loretta has been very good to the podcast
and very learned. Yeah, very good to the podcast. Doctor
Loretta is the advisor for Douce Skin and that's an
exciting clab. Yeah, collab to think about that, that's significant. Huge.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Wait, can you kind of see from here that the
brow is more Yeah, there's more brow than usual a
little bit, but it's not it's not overwhelming though. Are
you familiar my concept about doing your brows from fifteen
feet away from the mirror? Okay, oh, that's what it was.
I wrote that makeup away is this concept I have
of doing your makeup and like twenty feet away or
(28:24):
doing your makeup from the distance that you're going to
be engaging with the world. Okay, so think of it.
It's like, I think the model that everyone thinks is
get as close as you can with as right you
find detail as possible with the biggest, you know, blow
up mirror, and then you're gonna do detail work, detail work,
detail work, and you're gonna do it perfect at that
(28:45):
close and then guess what, when you're in twenty feet away,
it's just gonna come all together. But it's a different medium.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, So standing way back from the mirror, So when
they're doing the blush.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You think, what's the makeup for walking down the street?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Clan makeup?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, I'm not sure, but I'll know.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
When I used to try to make the brow perfect
really close up. Yeah, then I'd step back and it
would look like shit, yeah okay, or it would look
like whatever. So instead I would actually step like the
real thing is, I'd step like three feet away and
I'd sort of feather okay from there in shape and
that's that.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's all I got on that imagining walking towards you
from thirty feet and then as you become closer you
revealed to look I mean, because that would just be
about volume. It would just be applying more right, more volume.
Huh would it be about volume? Well, this is the
big question.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I mean more not necessarily, Like from far away, if
you've slathered on a single tone across your face, right,
you may have flattened the face. From far away, Okay,
from far away, you really need your pores. Like you know,
people are shading in dark shadows, dark circles, adding them
(30:08):
because I see it on women. They're like, that's fucking cool.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Really, they're creating dark circles.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's very like to me, it all, it's all like
to me, it's all this like sort of YouTube makeup
tutorial generation that like learns by nine how to apply
like like make up to a precision that is like funereal.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yes, Like these nine year old can dress a corpse. Yes,
they can make a corpse ready to be viewed.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yes, yes, then and they can do like they can
make themselves look like you know, Edward Norton or whatever,
you know, Like they do these things right, right, It's
like it's like a complete The face is a literal
canvas now, yeah right, and it's like I can I
can paint another face onto my face and not metaphorically.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'm not a nine year old girl. I'm paint and norton.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah. And so then you go from that and you go,
what are we doing here? It kind of reminds me
of when I stopped really being impressed by toned fucking legs.
It's like, yeah, if you put in the time on
the treadmill, you can get those. They became devalued to me,
(31:22):
you said, saying, once the tech is there, it's like
just evidence of the labor. That's why being like extraordinarily ripped, right,
really embarrassing. And that's why strange men who are so ripped,
it's like highly ionizes them a way. It's like almost interesting.
It's like the preening. It's like, oh, my preparation, the hours, yeah,
the mirrors, the oils of course.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Oh yeah, oiling up their legs and tits. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Well remember the calf implants of two thousand and six.
Oh wait, it was like it was like a fake muscle,
which is so interesting. Implants a fake muscle. Yeah, we
like implanting fake fat kind of has a It's like
fat is just sort of it's like a different concept
to me. To like suggest that you have built something.
(32:12):
Mm hm mm hmm, Like that's you're talking about the
effortlessness of not seeing the labor. So to do a
calf muscle is like to tell a tale of doing
calf lists right right, right?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Like to have looked like you put in the work
at the gym as a bodybuilder, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
It's a durational lie. Yes, but you're still working out right, Yeah.
I haven't for a week, and I really feel it.
Mood plummeted, health plummeted. My trainer was in the Cayman Islands.
Can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, I was like, I miss you.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Come back.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
He's back. I'm seeing him today.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
A week everything changes. Crazy. You're a different person in
the week. Your body is different in a week. Everything
changes in a week. It's fucking crazy. You could say
it's liberating because you go, all I need is a
week to change my life, but in a week, it
just goes. It all goes well the extent I want
to write a book, Give me seven days, I'll change
your life.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Well that's to me what every book, like every book
is suggesting suggest seven yeah, no, right, right right, it's like, yeah,
it's the entire industry.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
And by the way, like the horror is like you
can't because it's all that application. But do they apply it?
We know we need or do we I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I know what I need.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You're going for a whole new makeover, shed, interior, interior. Yeah,
I want to be what's the new person going to be?
Like you said, they're going to be career obsessed more?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No, I mean right right, it's what that was the
sort of separate thing that was sort of about, like
giving over to being like those characters in the beginning
of movies whose values are out of whack and by
the end they learn whatever the opposite. HM, Like, you know,
I'm not I'm always like I use a little more
(34:19):
person Act one. Wait what, I'm always jealous of the
Act one asshole who's like stomping through their life, not
going to the you know, kids baseball game. I'm like,
that's what I want to be.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Do you want to be the deadbeat?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah? I want to be, Like I guess I'm yearning
to forget to lose track of that. That little girl's
full of wonder. Wait where'd she go? I'm like, get
her out. I want to have I want to fully
transform into the the jaded Uh. Success that. Then then
(34:58):
it has to come back around to the other side.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Right, you want to be like you want to be
trying to remember? Yes, her the messy girl? Yeah, I think, Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I think it's like I've embodied or I've I've never forgotten,
you know what I mean, Like I've never fully hit
the wall to come back around the other side. Yeah,
I want to forget. I want to forget to remember again.
(35:38):
I know it'll perk me up. Let me solve a
problem for you. Oh you know I love that.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Oh okay, well here's a question for you if you
were me. So, if I'm leaving, if I'm doing this
big trip, I basically have a week to get everything
that I might need. When are you doing your I
gotta go to Sophora to do kind of a makeup hall,
get a couple of things I'm running low on for
the show. When are you going to the Grove?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, that's the thing. I go to the grove like
every night.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Where the fuck, are you get back to la we
go to the grove together. It'd be so fun, blue
ribbon sushi at the grove with me. When are you back?
Five four three two?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I think next week. I think I don't have a
plane ticket.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I was thinking about hitting the grove.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I want to might go twice, Okay, I don't know
about it.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
If I roll in, I I don't need any ship.
And then I came home, I go, I need it.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I need it.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to do two.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Then I go back. But it just becomes a kind
of pilgrimage.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Of I told you. I think I said this on
poog already when I got the benefit twenty four hour browjel,
which I like, and I bought it and it was
in an empty It was in an empty box. Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I talked about that, right, And I wondered why you
didn't feel the weight?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Well, I thought something was off, which is the most
maddening part. And you're like, this was weird about this,
and just took it up to the register, paid for
a full price. And what's gonna happen when I go,
I'm gonna bring the empty box. I'm gonna go. We've
got a huge problem here. They're gonna have to get
the manager over. It's gonna be a whole fucking thing.
I'll have to talk to the headquarters.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I think they're not gonna believe you.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I don't know. I've got to believe.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I think they won't believe you on the third.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Time, right, right right, It'll go in my file. Well,
I'm excited to finish the deepest breath. I was completely stunned,
like it.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I'm mimbing for Kate.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
No, no, no, no, I'm mimbing for Kate. The the
last ten meters, you knowing what meters are in the
context of the of that sport. Well, it's a big day.
I've got therapy, My trainer's back from the Cayman Islands.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I am going to go shop, uh for a wedding
and I have a wedding week drum up excitement to
purchase clothing. And I really find it challenging, of course, Yeah,
what's it for? How do I get inspired? Two? What's
(38:21):
it about?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck is it?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I've got a wedding this weekend, not like a friend,
like a family friend, you know, that kind of it,
two different energy.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I'm actually really excited to mingle with some of the adults.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
It's sort of you going, oh, is that the Is
that the adult? I mean, is that the uncle? That's a.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You know, I'm really excited because my former kynecologist will
be there. Oh really, wait, shout out doctor Jubelle George.
I don't know why I'm protecting shot at George. I'm
excited to see George. Yeah's excited you she's a former
patient of mine. Oh, we'll kind of talk to you guy,
(39:07):
I know. Yeah, Well everyone's gonna know only one of
the best guy knows in town. Oh here's a horror Wait,
I have a quick horrifying story. How many women? How
many women are wedding a wedding or George's girls along,
including my mother.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
She's like ninety eight, right, He's not.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Only he's in his late seventies and mid sev George's
girls also going into the office for what I wanted,
George's girls disgusting.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Sorry, Oh my god, that would be awful. Are you
stick it off on? Calling him George? Like I'd say
to the reception, I was like, oh, does George have
anything open in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, it's a jar. You know, I know she's in.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Wait, listen to this. I have a horrifying, quick, horrifying
gynecology story. Yeah, my mom was telling me. She's like,
my mom, I love my mom was telling me my
mom's my mom loved her gynocologists.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
This kind of cologist was then retiring, This guy of collegist,
he just really really.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Knew how to ask her as distracting question is the
cold speculum? You know, I just thinking about college? Well,
so what's it like being a comedian an how we're
approaching the service?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Wait, wait, go tell me, tell me.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I'm really sorry, this is horrifying. So my mom had
this kind of collegist. He was retired, and he's like,
don't worry, I've got you covered. We're gonna send you
to this guy. So my wife goes to it who
my daughter goes to He is the best in the business. Whatever.
My mom goes and has like a just a meeting
with him. They don't even do an exam. It's just
like meeting with.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Sitting across the desk.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
So she meets him. She's like, this guy's great wonderful.
A couple months later, class action lawsuit against this motherfucker.
He's been like, no, sexually assaulting women for like four
thousand years, And now why the hell did Georgie did
not recommend him? Someone else recommended him? Oh okay, sorry George, Yeah, careful,
(41:44):
But can you fucking believe he was like the toast
of the town. Meanwhile he's like glovelessly finger blasting people
like I don't know what was going on, but Harry,
what's really crazy too? My mom got a check because
there was such a huge class action lawsuit. Everyone ever
sing nineteen dollars or two hundred, No, it was like
eleven hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Okay, wow for once. It's it's meaning she never went
to him. I mean god, physically just had to chat
across the desk.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Can you believe it? And that's the thing about these motherfuckers, they,
I mean, they're right. And there's that's if you If
you really want it, Like I'm talking about molested and
abuse women for years, all you have to do is
go through medical school, be first in your class, gain
the respect and trust of all of your colleagues, and
then it's you're fucking in.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Well.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
The issue though, is it's like, yeah, I think that
has to be. They don't all want it. They don't know,
you know, they don't want it gloved and in an office.
That's the problem, Like it's that won't that won't do it?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Does it? For somemer, for every psychopath, you know, it's
a liarally nasir right, it's like his fucking whole thing.
It was a brilliant grit. It was a brilliant scheme.
He'd be like, I'm gonna talk to the parents. There's
the fucking examle all the whole time, right, these fuckers
firing squad for them all, Okay, gotta go, gonna go
make an omelet love you.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Firing squad, except we all know we're shooting him because
the firing squad is the ten guys with guns. No
one knows who who's bullet landed, right right right, This
would be firing squad.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Every bullet what it should be. You take one beam,
you get one shot. Boom, it's the first one. He's
screaming and everyone just goes down and no one knows
who killed him. You dressed, you just trust for the
final blow.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, imagine being on the firing squad like back in
the day, I don't know in France, okay, and you're like,
you know it's you. You know you nailed it because
you know the other guys are ship. Yeah yeah, although
some of them, probably I'm just realizing, tried not to hit.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Some of them had a relationship with God and probably
aimed for there. Like I don't want to I don't
want to kill. Okay, I truly have to leave right now.
I love you all right, love you bye bye. That
was pood. If you enjoyed pooh, please subscribe, rate, and review.
(44:27):
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