September 5, 2023 • 45 mins
Spiritual advice from the business section. Bring your hate and depression to the altar. Packing light: one pair of jeans, one pair of evening pants. Recent house guests may have had some sticky fingers. No more blowing raspberries and bringing back the cackle.
Products mentioned: Tower28, Ilia, Rose Inc, Armani, Caudalie, Oribe, Benefit, Porter, Tata Harper, Ratio Bars, SuperGoop, Goop.
Edited & mixed by Allie Graham.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kate Berlan, I'm Jacqueline Novak, And this is.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Two untamable intellects. This is our hobby, This is our hell.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is our naked desire for free products.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
This is poog.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Today's topics looselie speaking the white knuckle goal, cutlery constant BJ.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You know what I do enjoy? Hi, you have a
pink lip on. This is a pink in your mind
as a Yes, that was pink to me on camera.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I was aiming for a red.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
To me, that's pink.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I know, Coola brown.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Guess what, guess what it's called?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
There you go, scarlet, scarlet red, honey, that is pink
as Barbie's pussy. Sorry to reference Barbie. I have a
little Koola SBF thirty tinted lip water resistant, which was
really fun all summer to wear. I have to say,
splashing around perhaps cool. I will send the full line now.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Hmmm, yeah, I was.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I found myself at a at a I found myself
in an affair arguing for mineral s gun screen, and
it was tough to find myself like that.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh you know what I had a disaster.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So so I spent weeks trying to find a dress
and consignment for a wedding and and you look gorgeously.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I never got the final look.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
And then you know, for for forget what I for
like two hundred bucks or something whatever. Then I decided
to run into CBS before the event, grab like some bullshit,
like I don't have all my shit with me, so
I'm gonna run in there and like it's a makeup
and like, oh, you know, I'll grab a hair iron
just because I'll try something and like shit like that.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Fucking somehow, it's like three hundred dollars in CBS.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I was like, I just kept grabbing.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Me the CBS bill. It's crazy and I couldn't put
things back. It was like because I needed all this
just you know, it's just grabbing shiit like and I
mean just say it adds.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Up, honey, it adds up. Should I go through this
will be a little fun, That's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna go grab right over therecause I went to
Sephori yesterday. I'm gonna I'm gonna do a hall. I'm
gonna do a hall.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
What happened. Yeah, that's much more interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You know what, this is exciting. How many years have
we been doing poop? This is the first time I'm
doing on a hal I.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Just want to say I got a couple like of
the fashion boob cvs like Bras and our Bras thing.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
But what do you mean the things that taped you.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I got a few of those, all total disaster in
the room. Like and I consider myself a sculptor. Okay,
I'm not like afraid. It was absolute disaster pain. Well, yes,
at one point trying to peel it off and it
just it was like it was like the biggest joke.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It just it just it was sticking everywhere.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, whatever, It's ok.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's a non story.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So I'm putting on which is an out of pocket
or maybe they sent this. I love this, the Tower
twenty eight lip gloss in They did send that xoxo.
I love it.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
We put we put together a list for them, and
I have been enjoying their products and I sent my
friend a series of essen.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Think I'm wearing pink lipstick to the tower. This is
Tower twenty eight. What I'm wearing.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Tower twenty eighth. Guess my favorite essence. I sent my
friend Paul like six of them, and he's like, this
one's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, guess what, Tower twenty eight. This is a huge announcement.
This is this is breaking news. We all know. The
Ilia Skin Serum is my go to right and it
is forever in my heart and I still love it.
Guess what. I'm loving the Tower twenty eight tinted sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Wait out of pocket? I get that. No, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Had heard about it. I went, let's go more. It's
a little less oily. I like the way the Skin
serum provides a lot of like oil moisture. It's a
little more makeupy. The Tower. I like it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm looking at I'm looking. I mean, I have coverage,
but not too much. I'm astonished.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Okay, here's my Sephora unboxing.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Here we have the supergroup uns Wait, I'm shocked the
Unseen skunscreen. It keeps happening again, say the super again,
Unseen body you pay for that.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I paid for this.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
They sent us a hall and I've been living off
of it for a year. The different so I've used
through a lot of that to my cousins. But I
I've purchased this twice. Now I repeat, this is the
twice second time I've purchased this. The unscreen, and that's
the unseen.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Sunscreen for body SBF forty water and sweat resistance.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Is it that?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
That clear one that looks a little like the smash
box primer. Yep, like a blur priming, and you believe
it's working. Yeah, Now it's a chemical sunscreen obviously for
it to be clear, it's not physically blocking anything with zinc.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Right, we already know so much more than I do.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, and again I'm not. I mean, I'm concerned of
nothing clean chemical sunscreen actives. That's what it says.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Here on the face, I'm using mineral But on the
body here and here's what I love. I just love
the way it feels feels like nothing's there. Yeah, Okay,
then I've got I received this free, not because of Pooh,
but in a gift bag for an event I attended,
and I've now purchased it out of pocket because I
enjoy it so much. The rose Ink Skin enhanced luminous
(05:20):
tinted serum. You mix it into your foundation and it
gives you a nice little glow. And don't r folks.
I'll post a photo of these items on the poog Instagram.
Next up, we have my go to favorite foundation filled
with chemicals and I couldn't care less the Armani Luminous silk,
perfect glow, flawless foundation for me. This is about you
when you're going out for me, this is what I
(05:41):
wear on stage, really for a first, for a special
night out in a silk I put on the Armani.
It's not a daily it's a night out.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Does it have a scent like beautiful? Yeah, there's definitely
a scent.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh my god, I'm gonna try this on air. I've
never had much fun. And I say my unboxing videos
are huge. I'm literally member is racing because I'm so exacted.
This kind of this cross section of a friend.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Okay, wait wait, I want to screen grab how little
I can see to reveal what I was able to
identify as Okay, then I said it to you because
people can see is.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It coal or no?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
This is totally okay.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Then I'm a I'm you need to just and then
we'll post so caudally look at what I sent.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, let me look, you're texting it to me.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay that I saw that and said, is that totally?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
But I'm looking at what Okay, it's very it's we'll
post that on the pook Instagram too. It's so so funny. Okay, okay,
so totally. One of the first beauty products they ever
purchased was their beauty Elixir, so I got that, but
I went, oh, it's in glass and I'm traveling whatever,
I want something for backstage. And then and then in
(06:50):
this Aphora checkout line, they really seduced you, don't they.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Folks with all this point that's where you shop, That's
where I just get in line.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So then I saw this and I went, I I've
never even seen that. Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And what is it the grapewater?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
What is it grapewater? Yeah, and it says, this is
really what I want soothes moisturized sensitive skin. It doesn't
have the beauty elicks or the other one has such
a gorgeous scent. This really doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I think that one is very minimal.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Minimal.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh wait, hold on, I hear something. Oh my god,
I think the guys are here to spread in the roaches.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I don't hear anything. God's like you're listening for the
fucking nazis your face right now? Oh my god, Im sorry.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
The bathroom and the living room they were like plug
the drains. My friend said that plug them. They like
to come up in, come up from. Okay, things still
lying on me. People won't understand.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I keep going, what do you mean? Minimal?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
More minimal than this.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Than the beauty the coddly grape water.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, and this is more minimal. This is more minimal.
Whatever it's it's this is nice. I guess it kind
of just feels like water. I guess it says it
on the thing. This is a go to staple for me,
but in a travel size since I am traveling international
to London with fun.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
It's still completely pixelated. Can't see not immediately clocking anything.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But wait, let me just can you guess? Oh, reab yeah,
or a bee? Bring it back, bring it back way,
laughing like a child. I'm having so much fun.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
This one's not as impressive, but I still did you
know clock it?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
This is a classic. This is a real classic. Yes,
the dry texturizing spray kind of I can't live without product,
folks or abe could really stand to sense in product.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
A right, don't don't push anything too close. I want
to do my test again.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, you want a new thing. This is the new thing.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Don't bring you too close. I don't want to be helped.
I sort of vaguely see pink and black. I'm like,
what is that benefit? Gimme brow or some shit?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
This is the twenty four hour browsetter, which is an
from what you mean benefit benefit? Yeah, good job, I
was right. Heah, you were right.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Benefited it up and back like where it was.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Okay, I mean, you're not gonna believe how impressive I am.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Again, to be clear, Jacqueline is because our screens are
so pixelated. She shocked that I can hold the product
up and that she can manage to tell what it is.
So I love this stuff as a clear brow gel.
I'm really I've really been a Yeah. And that's called
gimme brow It's called twenty four hour browse.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Give me brow is another one.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
This has no color in it? Okay, and then something
I got this This is just an item, Like, it's
not a product.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Don't, don't, don't.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I'm gonna just see it's an item. It's not a product. Oh,
I bet I know what it is. I bet, I bet,
I think I can tell.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But is it?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Is it for decanting?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Fuck?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
But it makes sense that you think that's not a container.
It's not a perfume atomizer or something.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
No, can I just tell you glue?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, it's a retractable face brush. So forever travel because
I need that and my bach is so fun. I
want the products to never end. Is that everything?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Fuck?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's everything I wanted to go on forever. I took
a photo of this now so I don't forget because
I promised the hats. And also you're going to see
from Porter a wonderful insulated bottle. And they sent us
Is that the tazza? Did you get to me? They
sent us. They sent us beautiful glass jars.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
To hold by the way for food that I picked
out those.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I went through their entire product line and picked out
that assortment and they honored us.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Thank you so much because I love it and I
love We also got from them a little travel really
nice stuff. We got a travel container, I'm sorry, a
travel like cutlery set.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yes for picts quality because I've struggled. It's gotten bad ones.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
What a fun date? Go to the picnic. Go on
a picnic with your own cuttole Cutler.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I was leaving my house in the pinch travel right,
I'd already gotten outside. I can't go back in, you know,
like I've already cut and run. And I see a fork,
a dirty fork on my back porch because I'd eating
out there and left the fork out there. I guess, right,
So I'm leaving. I just go to my neighbor, I go,
Can I just give this you?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's cute.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I can't go back in.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That's community, that's community. Yeah, so if you were me,
this is also a huge Pooh thing. And I do
think we should do an episode tomorrow as I am
in the throes of international packing, which is.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Fund such a packing, the long, the big packing for
the big trips, and Jacqueline managing anxiety huge but Jacqueline wonderful.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I swear to God, I'm not letting myself overpack this time.
I've already made the executive decision. I'm taking one pair
of blue jeans, one pair of slacks, and one pair
of evening pants. So that's it.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Wow, the fact that evening and then of course it's
raking it in a skirt.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I'm shocked by one pair of jeans.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Here's where it is. What are these slacks you're talking about? Trousers?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Is sorry, trousers that are kind of.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Like afternoons, accounting afternoons.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
They can transition in today and tonight. But yeah, I'm
making the move with.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Only one pair of jeans just seems fuck. I mean
that means you can't wear jeans when the one jeans
are being washed. That just seems like.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm not going to watch that. I'm not going to wash.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I'm not going to wash jeans in a month. A month?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
What if you spill something, I won't I never have.
These aren't your jeans you're wearing on stage or anything.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Right, My stage outfit is a totally different thing.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
All right, separate things, So that's not a question. Stage
jeans are a separate issue.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Is it's summer, it's summer.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's fall, early fall, late late summer, sixty degrees, so
you won't be uh taking a jacket and then a
very light jacket and then a sweater and a sweatshirt.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well you must recall that you know, anything you really need,
you can get.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
There exactly, Which is why I'm really not going to
let myself bring more than one pair of jeens and
then shocking travel sizes.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I mean that travel sizes, not travel sizes.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
No, but I was gonna say this, Sephora the like
those travel sizes. Yeah, I mean I fantasized about this constantly.
Just it's really hard though, because to maintain the travel
kit that stays the travel kit and doesn't get unpacked
and get home just a complete kit. Yeah, okay, that
just could stay live in the suitcase. Now, of course,
(13:36):
some products are going to expire and you have to
face that, right, right, But what if stuff that didn't
just lived like that in that thing, you just threw
it in your suitcase. You know, I was thinking of
leaving a kit because that was what my parents have
to think. Okay, leave a kit there.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, I know that's brilliant.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Okay, where it's like I can just show my parents
use and I know that there's like few basic makeup items,
a few basic skincare items. Some of that's happened naturally
due to me leaving things.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, I've tried to leave things like there so that if.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I spend the night, like when you are back at
your parents' house, you're spending the night. Are you in
a bathroom that isn't normally used by them when you're
not there?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Like, is it I'm in the bathroom that's my old bedroom,
which is like something the guest room.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Right, So it's kind of a rarely used bathroom, yeah,
relatively to the other bathroom. So is there kind of
like products that just sort of are there and have
been there for essentially twenty years? Because yes, there's like
the shampoo only gets used there.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Are there are birds bees products from I'm not exaggerating
when I was fifteen. Yeah, but those have been sort
of calcified and they're in a certain drawer. In fact,
we had a little mystery happened in my house because
I had some Tata Harper, gorgeous Tata Harper travel sized
products that I left my.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Parents' house being like we were sent I believe exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So I was like, when my parents' house, I'll have
some Tata there.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I spent the night at my parents' house last week.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Sticky fingers, Mama.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's gone, My products are gone. I run upstairs, nude
wrapped in a towel, winding like a brat to my mom.
Where's my tong? I said, I said, Mom, I don't
have where are my products? So what do you mean?
I go, I had all my little tata herbor I
had a serum and a cleanser and a moisturizer. It's gone.
It's gone. And she was stunned. So I'm not going
(15:23):
to say names, but there are a couple of potential
names of some recent house guests who may have had
some sticky fingers. No, there's no weather explanation.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
There is your mother?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
My mom said, I don't completely unlike my mother.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And also I went rummaging through her drawers. It's not there.
My mother also has cosme. I use she would have gone,
oh I took yeah, yeah gone. No.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I don't believe they took it. That's insane, I know.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Could they perceived the travel size as almost like hotel shampoo,
Like it's like or these or some Airbnb's. The people
will it's like a new thing, like and they had
like they'll leave almost a hotel like little travel like
a soap thing. Yeah, they'll leave like a yeah, take it,
never opened one and it's almost like that's you.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I'll never forget.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I wonder if they thought like no, no, no, that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It's a gift. We'll listen to this. I was moved
by this. I'll never forget. I was in Omaha, Nebraska
for a friend's wedding. I'll never forget. I was staying
at my friend's house and her mother was hosting us.
We were getting ready there to go to the wedding.
I land there. I go into the little guest room.
There is a little basket with fresh towels right there. Yes, yes, yes,
(16:37):
A toothbrush in a package, a razor in a package.
Are you hear what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
No? I am. I was like, yeah, are you I
know someone who.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Fucking kidding me? It brought me to my knees. That
level of hospitality phenomenal and guests who used it all me.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, like I my friend Paul will do that, and
it'll that is bespoke kind of to you. It'll be like, oh,
he'll do slippers too.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Like just that is little like we should all aspire
to that. I want to be that is the hostess.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Although you have to you have to do it, and
he does it this way.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
You have to do it in a way that doesn't
make people, that doesn't become so about your hosting that
they become uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Now you know that they're so aware of the details.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, every detail of every object and every thing that
now you're afraid to move. It's like it's like they've
accounted and inserted themselves into your most intimate moment. Like
it'd be like the bad or a great example, but
like it'd be like a tampon unwrapped, the kind of
tampone that's meant to travel and then but has an
applicator and then you pull the applicator out to load
it up to be ready to be a full sized thing.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
It'd be like if you.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Like resting on a golden tray next to your thing,
and what a host right.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, they caught wind of the period. You know, My
point being the intimacy.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
It's like, hmm, Paul does it perfectly because he does
it in a way that feels actual, Okay, Like you know,
the guests bathroom always just has a little unopened little
toothpaste and a little you know, it's just like.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, there's no effortless.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It is all about effortlessness of course always.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Being a goal there.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
It is the white knuckled goal. I know, I'm scared
to go to the dentist today.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Oh little baby going to the dentist A cat mood
to be judged. God, I'm behind. I gotta say another
mouth laceration.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I bit.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I was so hungry last night. I think when you
bite the lip due to the hunger, do you know
what I mean? Like I was hungry eating, Yeah, I drew,
I bit, I was eating salmon. I bit my fuck
mouth like it was salmon so disgusting, not bleeding a ton,
But it fucking hurts today. Man, fucking hits.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Your only comfort. You'll love it. Mouthcales quick.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, I know, but you might recall my horrible skin
lacerations a few weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Trenchs that was bad. That really the way in.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
But this it's just right there where anything touches it,
and it's a huge risk of being bitten again. Yeah right, anyway,
then it's protruding. Possibly care I do, thank you, Vinagrette.
Let me just I thrive off salt, vinegar, lemon. This
is what I live for.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Stinging sended further back.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So also in the interim, I went and looked at
one of my Keto think bars that I'm addicted to.
As a three days I have to completely get off
of it. I can't repurchase palm oil like it's bad,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Really palm oil. I mean it's fine.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Obviously, it's fine, as like an airplane thing, like all right,
I'm on an airplane or something.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But becoming a package, I.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Mean I find it. I find them satisfying as like
a okay, like as far as a protein bargoes. But
it's just I can't be mainlining.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I've frankly been enjoying the Ratio brand bar because kind
of reminds me of an old uh On neutri grain
nature valet. Now what is it it? Maybe it was
nature Valley aikto, Yes, it falls under that. It's like
because it's like sugar free, it's sweetened with some bullsh
you know something.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But it's let's see.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
What it is.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's keto. Yeah, we got to talk about my spaghetti question.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Ratio bar. I ate quite a few of them.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I got lost on an Instagram. As we know, I
don't have TikTok like a fucking elderly person. I got
lost in in a Instagram. Reels of recipes in these
cres are what I eat in today, and I just
can't stop watching it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh, that's what it is what I eat in a day.
Oh my god, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And they're like the most like empty vessels you've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I no, I love them.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I've been I've been lapping up this ratio keto yogurt
and yogurt whatever they have yogurt. Yeah. And then now
they have like cereal and these crunchy bars. And then
I thought I saw them in the dessert aisle, just
like I was like, oh my god, they've made it
to the dessert isle. I thought they were doing like
(21:29):
a sneakers ice cream bar. Seen them and it wasn't
It was kind bar. But I was like, mmm, it
really is exciting when a brand new appears in a
different form.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, you know, look, honey, Chipotle cheddar.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It says ratio food Chipotle Cheddar.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
What No, No, it's like colon ratio.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No. I'm looking at the website. Dull oh, chocolate brownie
a bar. I might scoot over to air once tomorrow
and get some special planes snacks for myself, some travel snacks.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
It appears to be a picture in Vogue Magazine's Instagram.
You can see me in the back at this wedding oh.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Hell yeah, paparazzi. Do I.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Look good? It's a question. I mean, you can't see much.
Why and why do I even need to I send
it to you just for fun?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You sent it?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Oh, I want more? But do you see me?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Vogue from Margaret Quality and Jack Antonov's wedding. Jacquelyn Novak
appears in the background right behind the bride.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
The family wedding. Huge, huge, natural hair, natural curls, beautiful.
Real question, did Vogue? Did Vogue?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Did tag my ass?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I don't think if they tag it's like half a horse.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
They wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
But I think it's more just that a face.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
No, of course they wouldn't, but someone's got to speak up.
I got this thing called gap filler and sprayed around
the edge of and my pipes, you know, trying to
steal everything up this disaster. I didn't prepare. It's all
over my hands, sticky, the disaster. But I couldn't prepare.
(23:10):
I want to do things when I want to do them.
I tore down some curtains that were devastating me and
now were baldly visible to the neighbors. Okay, they had
to go.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Sometimes they have to go, and you just have to rip,
let them be bare until it's time. I've discussed on poog,
I think briefly once my old apartment in New York,
when I was in my twenties early twenties, being in
a fit of being hungover in Migrain, some kind of hess,
ripping my blinds right off my window. Yes, well then
and then taking towels, taking towels.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I had to be like in New York, ripped and
raged like like this is hideous. Like I regularly, when
I think something's hideous, will choose like nothing at all,
even like a bear, like a bear screw, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What I mean. Yeah, like the like the you.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Know, the plastic vertical blind things. They're popular here in
LA and they're always falling out, you know, in rentals.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know, I'm talking about the hanging ones.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
That are like you know, the slats not slats, you
know they call confusing Becau's not really And they fall
out and everything pops up, and I just ripped them
out and then so the structure is still there, but
the blinds are gone, and I feel relief. It's like
one time I borrowed my friend Erica's sweatshirt many years
(24:38):
ago in college, and there was a hoodie and there
was a pocket in the front and there was this round,
almost like grease stain on it, like just perfectly round,
will never come out kind of like just you know
those stains, like it feels like it came from something oiled,
and so people just never And I just looked at it,
and it's probably simmering on adderall and it was just
(25:00):
very obvious to me that the answer was to cut
cut out a perfect, actual stain cut.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
So I did that and like eventually gave it back
to her, like and it was as though I in
my mind, it was as though I had cleaned up
a hem mm hmmm mmm. Instead I cut a large
in the pocket of her sweatshirt. She brings it up
to this day.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
That's pretty cute of you. Here's a question. Yeah, so here, Okay,
you love solving problems. This will be too small a
problem for you. I think I'll make it big dryer
outlets in London. You don't take you, you know what,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You're gonna be shot. But I have a drawer right here.
I just opened it for you.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
One converters two.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Wait, oh my god, no, you'll You'll never believe what
is on a drawer. I just looked down at one
of my three drawers here. None of the other ones
have labels. This one is a tiny label from a
label maker. It says travel Tech.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, are you ready? Are you ready to ask Kate?
Look this is a packing cube. And look at those converters.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Con converters. So I have converters. Here's my question, the
three prong, Like, do I take my hair dryer? That's
my question? Do I take my hair dryer? I'm trying
to think back, have I taken it? I'm trying to
think of last summer when I was in London. Did
I have my hair dryer with the diffuser? Fuck?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
You can't remember. You can't never taken a three prong
I know I can't know because I never feel like
a diffuse is essential on travel.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I mean like you could.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Always do the PLoP PLoP method. You're not going to
get to be able to drive. You're not gonna get
as much volume. No, you're not going to get as much.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I'm on stage every night. I gotta have all for
stage for stage. Yeah, I forgot about it's gotta have
freaking volume. Shit, shit and fuck.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Still there are other ways, but yeah, it's not as speedy. Well,
what if you do this the place you're staying. If
they have a hair dryer already, why don't you do
the whole like one of those diffuser socks over, here's
what it is, that.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Existing hair dryer. I will take the hair dryer.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
My concern is what if I pack it and this
is a real eavesdrop or a fucking epp. We're not
the whole app but this for sure. What if I
take it and it was in vain? You see what
I'm saying. That's my fear. Wait, how would it be
in vain if it doesn't plug in? Like, if it
won't convert?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Are you concerned?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Though, example, it's not going to wait it didn't work.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I think in Italy it didn't work. Interesting, I'm almost
positive I never diffused in Italy. Why can't I remember
these key details of my life. At the end of
my life, I will have spent like six years diffusing
my hair.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
God to be like, wait, let's not leave you. I'm
diffusing in Italy. I mean just like I was imagined.
I'm hungry right now, so I'm just imagining being starving.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I miss being hungry in Italy is the best, although
I was never hungry there.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No, there's no time, and I'll never forget for gonna hit.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It, I'll still, I'll never understand it. Endless meals, pasta dessert, alcohol,
every meal came back light as a feather. You fucking
explained that to me. Heeping pasta, heeping dessert. Aperal sprits
for a day came back light as a fucking feather.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Joyful. Yeah, well, they say, stretching about sun and joy.
Everything is good for you there, talked to her. Yeah,
I know, I know, which is why we must turn
to the spiritual life.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
We absolutely must.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I took ederall today, you did. Maybe that's why I've
covered my drawer with stickers.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Maybe my eighties you sorry. My alarm just beeped in
a way that I find upsetting.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I want to guess more products just by their sight alone.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Full some it's funny, the idea of that being.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Once I navigated through a series of through like a
streaming thing with no visual to the show, I wanted
end the episode.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Honestly, Yeah, it was a very long time ago.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Oh, my mother ew. She just wrote, I put on
the lotion in your room goop and then she goes,
dad just said you smell so.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Good ew ew.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Okay, wait which product that I must have left some
goop behind?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Have you ever actually had the strength to submit a
super bowl a super bill to your insurance, because I'll
tell you right now. I once went, you know what
that means to submit a super bill?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Therapy that you submit to your health insurance?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh, I mean it like where they added all together.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, you said to your insurance and they go, okay,
we'll give you this much back.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I've never tried to the only thing I've done is
when I've gotten Like when the yeah, when the insurance,
like there was an issue and I had to pay
like insane amount of money for a prescription, I went
after them.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I had to rent was due?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, I submitted a super bill.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Speaking of consignment, what about it? Can it pay the bills?
How many dresses do you need?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You get like eight dollars. It's like you buy a
dress for four hundred dollars, you can sign it and
you get a check for like thirty dollars or something.
I don't know how don't listen to me, but I'm
pretty sure it's bad. It's like on that level.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Yeah, I guess that's why you got to use the
apps and you can try to get try to get
more calling.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Let me just tell her all call her back. I'm
gonna tell her all call her back and sure, hi.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Mom, I have anything?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Okay right now?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Well wait, I'm recording poog.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Oh okay, okay, I'll peculat okobye.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I thought that could be fun for the listener.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
No, I agree, I wanted more.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I know that's unusual. She's she's testing her phone. It's
like she perpetually her phone like doesn't work. She got
a new phone. She's like, I can't get texts. I'm
like you can, though I know you can. And then
it's like my phone's not buzzing, and I'm like do
this do that?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
You know?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah? She looked so.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Just the other night was her date to a wedding.
Oh really, we're dancing to Abba dancing queen.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Oh this is big?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
What are you ready?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Okay, So I'm reading Thick Faced Black Heart. Okay, like
I told you about it. What's that The Warrior Philosophy
for Conquering the Challenges of Business and Life by Chinning Chew.
I don't know what international bestseller written anyway, Obviously I
was drawn in by the title. I mean, yeah, I
(31:48):
think I think my heart could could could go darker
and my face could get thicker. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, how to be like? How to like you know, mercial?
So I can't say the word mercilessly? How do mercilessly
succeeded businesslessly? Mercilessly? What's happening to me?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Jesus merciless Yeah, merciless meaning through negative thinking?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Is chapter five, and I just the relief.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Okay, thick faced black heart practitioners do not accept the
common rules of success. Okay, So anyway, this is like
this chapter you might find inconsistencies with other chapters. Well,
you know, good luck universe isn't consistent. It basically say
it's being sure it's fabulous. Okay, it's fabulous a death
sentence awaits uh whatever. It really just goes like basically
(32:39):
it's saying like if you're if you're negative, you don't
have to fix that all before you can move forward.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Of course, negativity. I was reading this in my book.
But it's like pain, like negativity that we live in
this like positive culture. It's like sickening. It's killing us,
like positivity poison. It's like, you know, pain is I mean,
we're talking abo, we're talking different things, but pain is
where life happens. It freaks.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, and and so this is saying not babies life now,
therefore we spend enormous uh.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
If you consider yourself a negative individual, in your inner
voice often tells you that you can't do it, don't
fight back.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yield to your voice. By ignoring it, you'll.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
You know, I mean that was like, okay, tenant of
my depression approach. Don't argue with the devil. The devil
always wins.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, yeah, totally smart.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
By ignoring your voice, you know, blah blah blah, you're
free to free yourself from the trap that says change
comes before success. It's like, no fucking fucking go anyway,
this I love. So then listen to these headlines The
power of hating life. Okay, okay, if that isn't the bomb,
that isn't the sad already, if you think your life
(33:53):
is draged and you hate it, I will I will
not attempt to talk you out of your opinion. However,
I think you can benefit much more if you change
the object of your hatred instead of hating life, hate God.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh we were reacting to some I realized I forgot
to put my salad in the fridge. Hang on, fuck
my seventeen dollars salad from Ariwon.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
That was not a typo you read correctly, hate God? Ironically,
so many people love God but hate everybody else.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Sure, God, damn it? Sorry? Are you ready a seventeen
dollars Chinese chicken salad I forgot to put in the fridge?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah? Where from goop kitchen?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Arawan? So listen to me right right quick? You know
this whole thing like, oh, you can't meet out for
two hours? Of course you can't. Yeah, of course you can, right,
I don't know. Fuck, don't tell me you would throw
that away?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Fine your salad, You're fine, You're fine. Chinese chick a
picnic table, it's cooked. Okay, keep going ping, Okay, Okay,
so I'm to reread this paragraph.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Okay, great, the power of hating life.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
If you think your life is a dragon, you hate it,
will not attempt to talk you out of your opinion. However,
I think you can benefit much more if you change
the object of your hatred. Instead of hating life, hate God.
I don't like that's what I asp that. No, Okay, okay,
I know now listen, listen. Okay, it's going to come
back around. You think I'm You think I am a friend. Okay, Well,
(35:27):
you don't have the issue of this particular person with
this negativity.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Okay, yeah, God, just.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Let I know what irritating complexity I to love God.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I know you do. Keep going.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Okay, that was not a typo. You read correctly, hate God. Ironically,
so many people love God but hate everybody else.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
We know this. Okay, So there you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
The man who hates his fellow man and loves only
God is no lover of God.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Sure, sure, sure, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
But then if hatred exists within you, then the best
thing you can do is rechannel the hate from man
to God. Since the essence of God is love, Okay,
hold on other people's attitudes towards him or inconsequential. Unlike humans,
God cares not whether you hate him or love him.
He is like a fire, which you may love or hate.
But as long as you come close to fire, it
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will warm you. Okay, hold on. The emotions of hate
and love come from the same source. Hate is another
side of love, and only do to love can hate
exist In the Bible Revelation three sixteen. So then, because
thou art lukewarm and neither hot nor cold, I will
spew thee out of my mouth. The only time God
will ignore you and silently wait for you is when
you totally ignore him. So as long as you focus
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your attention towards God, he will purify you, support you,
and rehabilitate you. You may then see your hatred transformed
into divine love. So it's really saying, Okay, if you're
sitting there hating man and hating your fellow man and
dealing with that, right, that can't that isn't you know
(37:01):
what's that doing for anyone? Okay, let's just say you
literally take that and you go instead, I'm gonna hate God. Okay,
you bring that to God by actively focusing on God.
Okay in this way like like it's basically saying, like.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Give it a shot, honey, a little warm you. It's
like lay it. It's like saying lay it on God.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, I give it to God.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Sure, but it's not just give it to God. It's actually,
I mean, I'm.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Struggling, it's not working for me. Focus, I'll focus more.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
The thing.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
As long as you focus your attention toward God, he
will purify your support.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
You would rehabilitate you. Well, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So you may then see your hatred transformed into divine love.
So you can hate fellow man forever and it will
not transform you.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, okay, right, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
So then bring it over to God.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Get on your knees, rage, wrestle with the angels, okay, okay,
And when you're there before God, in conversation with God,
just say, by hating, I hate you, got to hate you?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, yeah, you're you're in it with God. And there
what happened?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Okay, it's interesting, okay, okay, I mean I didn't share
it because it sounded like the average whatever ye say.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But it's it's and then you know, and then a
serious of it because.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
You're submitting to something. If you're allowing yourself, God can
handle me. Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Your hatred and it will there therefore transform other men.
Nothing gets transformed through your hatred of other.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Of other people. It's huge looking outside for you another
time with a spider web.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I'll come for you another time with it.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
No, I mostly did not respond enough.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I hear it. No, I want you to.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I just I want you to find the same sort
of thrill because to me, it's like this. To me,
it's like it's hardcore in this way that is so
much more exciting about God. Okay, then bringing kind of
a lukewarm love like he hearing again and getting it
like we love God. I love God. You know, like
(39:10):
there's something like and therefore then when you are a
pit of hate, depression whatever, that therefore you keep yourself
like basically bring your your hate and depression.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Into the altar. Yeah, yeah, instead of.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Today I don't go into the sacred because I'm too angrydeous.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
No, no, of course, yeah, and I do think, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
It did something for me. It's fine, you know, No,
I I hear you.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I'm just imagining myself in a classroom, just reading, reading, reading.
It's just like like if I like, just like if
I were just this like teacher who was like just
so excited at the front and my eyes desperately searching
the crowd the crowd, the crowd just reading the text
(40:02):
with I mean, the thing is like whatever, yeah, me
needing you to love it right now or feel the
same thrill that I'm feeling.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's probably because also I've been.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
No, I'm interested. I feel like I didn't well, I
don't know, keep going. I couldn't match your enthusiasm. But
I was listening. I did think there was something that
I was I think I understood it was and was sparked.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, I think, I think, I think, uh.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Well, it's also like it's also in the context of
the rest of the book, like you know what I mean.
I mean, like you know what I mean, and that's
the chapter that that you know, whatever, It doesn't fu I.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Just find it more. It's funny to me. The whole
book is about business. I think that's where I bristle.
It's like as a way to like succeed in business,
which is like to me, ultimately the most hideous like
oh like like.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yes, but but you have to understand.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Okay, it's like this book is from let's see like
nineteen eighty four, Yeah, let me guess, nineteen ninety one,
two thousand and seven, no, maybe twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Let me just find it post two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I love going anxiety like I don't haven't like, I
love going to a thing. I'm getting to it. I mean,
I'm looking for it.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Hold on, my guess is post two thousand and eight
or the nineties.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Nineteen ninety two?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Ooh yeah, okay, that that's the very.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
But her, her fucking story is quite interesting. The point
is I love when you know this. I literally love
to roll into the business section. No, I know, I know,
because you're gonna get something, not like the medicine you need,
you know what I mean, like the self help fuckers,
(41:56):
the ones who you're already drawn to the spiritual section.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, no, hey, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Get conversations around money or the almost the only contemporary
way to have a conversation about God, the only kind
of you can still be welcomed into polite society if
you talk about your desire for money, talking about a
desire for God is practically makes you an instant social pria.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
You know, Yes, i I'm just I'm just I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
I I I love the fight for achievement in people.
I fucking like I love it.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I love I ultimately deplore the fight for achievement. But
I do see it in myself, of course. I mean
I have a podcasting going on stage.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Money achievements, personal you know what I mean, private victory.
It doesn't have to be a public victory. But I
do think there's I mean, to me, like the opposite
of depression, like to I mean, for me personally, like
to get back into wanting things.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
No, I understand. Is like I'm like nurture it. Don't
transcend it.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Don't transcend it because I can transcend it and then
slip into meaninglessness.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
So it's like value the thing.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I am a wanting person, trust me.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, I just I don't know. I really like, I
don't know. I remember my.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Painting teachers saying, wrestling with the angels. You know about this.
I was struggling in the class wrestling with the angels,
and I just love that knowing knowing nothing. I like
that phrase and everything that it conjures.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
A favorite favorite phrase of mind. I think, wait, is
it young or is it Campbell? I think it's.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Cast out gods.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
No, you take you need to only take one step
towards the gods and they will take ten towards you.
Oh yeah, beautiful, Yeah yeah yeah, m real words to
fucking live by. I had those carved in my journal.
Oh my god, imagine carving in your journal.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Yeah no, I was. I was picturing them pushing through
to the carved next age.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah. Well, look at this. I think we have to reco.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
A frequent guest on Larry King Live, I just I
love that.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
It's hysterical. Nineteen ninety two Larry King Live. Unbelievable him
getting a constant BJ for twenty years under the desk.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
I was lying in bed thinking there is no lot
of blowing raspberries as they call it, okay in the business,
all to make my cackle, not blow out the mics.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I'm bringing about my cackle. It's not who I am.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
And I've been doing it because I've because I don't
want to cackle too cackling.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I love crackle. Should we go a little girl?
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Okay, great, I'll talk to you in a bit.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
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Today's topics looselie speaking the white knuckle goal, cutlery constant BJ.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You know what I do enjoy? Hi, you have a
pink lip on. This is a pink in your mind
as a Yes, that was pink to me on camera.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I was aiming for a red.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
To me, that's pink.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I know, Coola brown.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Guess what, guess what it's called?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
There you go, scarlet, scarlet red, honey, that is pink
as Barbie's pussy. Sorry to reference Barbie. I have a
little Koola SBF thirty tinted lip water resistant, which was
really fun all summer to wear. I have to say,
splashing around perhaps cool. I will send the full line now.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Hmmm, yeah, I was.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I found myself at a at a I found myself
in an affair arguing for mineral s gun screen, and
it was tough to find myself like that.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh you know what I had a disaster.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So so I spent weeks trying to find a dress
and consignment for a wedding and and you look gorgeously.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I never got the final look.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
And then you know, for for forget what I for
like two hundred bucks or something whatever. Then I decided
to run into CBS before the event, grab like some bullshit,
like I don't have all my shit with me, so
I'm gonna run in there and like it's a makeup
and like, oh, you know, I'll grab a hair iron
just because I'll try something and like shit like that.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Fucking somehow, it's like three hundred dollars in CBS.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I was like, I just kept grabbing.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Me the CBS bill. It's crazy and I couldn't put
things back. It was like because I needed all this
just you know, it's just grabbing shiit like and I
mean just say it adds.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Up, honey, it adds up. Should I go through this
will be a little fun, That's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna go grab right over therecause I went to
Sephori yesterday. I'm gonna I'm gonna do a hall. I'm
gonna do a hall.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
What happened. Yeah, that's much more interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You know what, this is exciting. How many years have
we been doing poop? This is the first time I'm
doing on a hal I.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Just want to say I got a couple like of
the fashion boob cvs like Bras and our Bras thing.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
But what do you mean the things that taped you.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I got a few of those, all total disaster in
the room. Like and I consider myself a sculptor. Okay,
I'm not like afraid. It was absolute disaster pain. Well, yes,
at one point trying to peel it off and it
just it was like it was like the biggest joke.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It just it just it was sticking everywhere.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, whatever, It's ok.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's a non story.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So I'm putting on which is an out of pocket
or maybe they sent this. I love this, the Tower
twenty eight lip gloss in They did send that xoxo.
I love it.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
We put we put together a list for them, and
I have been enjoying their products and I sent my
friend a series of essen.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Think I'm wearing pink lipstick to the tower. This is
Tower twenty eight. What I'm wearing.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Tower twenty eighth. Guess my favorite essence. I sent my
friend Paul like six of them, and he's like, this
one's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, guess what, Tower twenty eight. This is a huge announcement.
This is this is breaking news. We all know. The
Ilia Skin Serum is my go to right and it
is forever in my heart and I still love it.
Guess what. I'm loving the Tower twenty eight tinted sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Wait out of pocket? I get that. No, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Had heard about it. I went, let's go more. It's
a little less oily. I like the way the Skin
serum provides a lot of like oil moisture. It's a
little more makeupy. The Tower. I like it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm looking at I'm looking. I mean, I have coverage,
but not too much. I'm astonished.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Okay, here's my Sephora unboxing.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Here we have the supergroup uns Wait, I'm shocked the
Unseen skunscreen. It keeps happening again, say the super again,
Unseen body you pay for that.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I paid for this.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
They sent us a hall and I've been living off
of it for a year. The different so I've used
through a lot of that to my cousins. But I
I've purchased this twice. Now I repeat, this is the
twice second time I've purchased this. The unscreen, and that's
the unseen.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Sunscreen for body SBF forty water and sweat resistance.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Is it that?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
That clear one that looks a little like the smash
box primer. Yep, like a blur priming, and you believe
it's working. Yeah, Now it's a chemical sunscreen obviously for
it to be clear, it's not physically blocking anything with zinc.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Right, we already know so much more than I do.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, and again I'm not. I mean, I'm concerned of
nothing clean chemical sunscreen actives. That's what it says.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Here on the face, I'm using mineral But on the
body here and here's what I love. I just love
the way it feels feels like nothing's there. Yeah, Okay,
then I've got I received this free, not because of Pooh,
but in a gift bag for an event I attended,
and I've now purchased it out of pocket because I
enjoy it so much. The rose Ink Skin enhanced luminous
(05:20):
tinted serum. You mix it into your foundation and it
gives you a nice little glow. And don't r folks.
I'll post a photo of these items on the poog Instagram.
Next up, we have my go to favorite foundation filled
with chemicals and I couldn't care less the Armani Luminous silk,
perfect glow, flawless foundation for me. This is about you
when you're going out for me, this is what I
(05:41):
wear on stage, really for a first, for a special
night out in a silk I put on the Armani.
It's not a daily it's a night out.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Does it have a scent like beautiful? Yeah, there's definitely
a scent.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh my god, I'm gonna try this on air. I've
never had much fun. And I say my unboxing videos
are huge. I'm literally member is racing because I'm so exacted.
This kind of this cross section of a friend.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Okay, wait wait, I want to screen grab how little
I can see to reveal what I was able to
identify as Okay, then I said it to you because
people can see is.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It coal or no?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
This is totally okay.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Then I'm a I'm you need to just and then
we'll post so caudally look at what I sent.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, let me look, you're texting it to me.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay that I saw that and said, is that totally?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
But I'm looking at what Okay, it's very it's we'll
post that on the pook Instagram too. It's so so funny. Okay, okay,
so totally. One of the first beauty products they ever
purchased was their beauty Elixir, so I got that, but
I went, oh, it's in glass and I'm traveling whatever,
I want something for backstage. And then and then in
(06:50):
this Aphora checkout line, they really seduced you, don't they.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Folks with all this point that's where you shop, That's
where I just get in line.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So then I saw this and I went, I I've
never even seen that. Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And what is it the grapewater?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
What is it grapewater? Yeah, and it says, this is
really what I want soothes moisturized sensitive skin. It doesn't
have the beauty elicks or the other one has such
a gorgeous scent. This really doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I think that one is very minimal.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Minimal.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh wait, hold on, I hear something. Oh my god,
I think the guys are here to spread in the roaches.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I don't hear anything. God's like you're listening for the
fucking nazis your face right now? Oh my god, Im sorry.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
The bathroom and the living room they were like plug
the drains. My friend said that plug them. They like
to come up in, come up from. Okay, things still
lying on me. People won't understand.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I keep going, what do you mean? Minimal?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
More minimal than this.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Than the beauty the coddly grape water.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, and this is more minimal. This is more minimal.
Whatever it's it's this is nice. I guess it kind
of just feels like water. I guess it says it
on the thing. This is a go to staple for me,
but in a travel size since I am traveling international
to London with fun.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
It's still completely pixelated. Can't see not immediately clocking anything.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But wait, let me just can you guess? Oh, reab yeah,
or a bee? Bring it back, bring it back way,
laughing like a child. I'm having so much fun.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
This one's not as impressive, but I still did you
know clock it?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
This is a classic. This is a real classic. Yes,
the dry texturizing spray kind of I can't live without product,
folks or abe could really stand to sense in product.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
A right, don't don't push anything too close. I want
to do my test again.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, you want a new thing. This is the new thing.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Don't bring you too close. I don't want to be helped.
I sort of vaguely see pink and black. I'm like,
what is that benefit? Gimme brow or some shit?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
This is the twenty four hour browsetter, which is an
from what you mean benefit benefit? Yeah, good job, I
was right. Heah, you were right.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Benefited it up and back like where it was.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Okay, I mean, you're not gonna believe how impressive I am.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Again, to be clear, Jacqueline is because our screens are
so pixelated. She shocked that I can hold the product
up and that she can manage to tell what it is.
So I love this stuff as a clear brow gel.
I'm really I've really been a Yeah. And that's called
gimme brow It's called twenty four hour browse.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Give me brow is another one.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
This has no color in it? Okay, and then something
I got this This is just an item, Like, it's
not a product.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Don't, don't, don't.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I'm gonna just see it's an item. It's not a product. Oh,
I bet I know what it is. I bet, I bet,
I think I can tell.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But is it?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Is it for decanting?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Fuck?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
But it makes sense that you think that's not a container.
It's not a perfume atomizer or something.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
No, can I just tell you glue?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, it's a retractable face brush. So forever travel because
I need that and my bach is so fun. I
want the products to never end. Is that everything?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Fuck?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's everything I wanted to go on forever. I took
a photo of this now so I don't forget because
I promised the hats. And also you're going to see
from Porter a wonderful insulated bottle. And they sent us
Is that the tazza? Did you get to me? They
sent us. They sent us beautiful glass jars.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
To hold by the way for food that I picked
out those.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I went through their entire product line and picked out
that assortment and they honored us.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Thank you so much because I love it and I
love We also got from them a little travel really
nice stuff. We got a travel container, I'm sorry, a
travel like cutlery set.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yes for picts quality because I've struggled. It's gotten bad ones.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
What a fun date? Go to the picnic. Go on
a picnic with your own cuttole Cutler.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I was leaving my house in the pinch travel right,
I'd already gotten outside. I can't go back in, you know,
like I've already cut and run. And I see a fork,
a dirty fork on my back porch because I'd eating
out there and left the fork out there. I guess, right,
So I'm leaving. I just go to my neighbor, I go,
Can I just give this you?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's cute.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I can't go back in.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That's community, that's community. Yeah, so if you were me,
this is also a huge Pooh thing. And I do
think we should do an episode tomorrow as I am
in the throes of international packing, which is.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Fund such a packing, the long, the big packing for
the big trips, and Jacqueline managing anxiety huge but Jacqueline wonderful.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I swear to God, I'm not letting myself overpack this time.
I've already made the executive decision. I'm taking one pair
of blue jeans, one pair of slacks, and one pair
of evening pants. So that's it.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Wow, the fact that evening and then of course it's
raking it in a skirt.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I'm shocked by one pair of jeans.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Here's where it is. What are these slacks you're talking about? Trousers?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Is sorry, trousers that are kind of.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Like afternoons, accounting afternoons.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
They can transition in today and tonight. But yeah, I'm
making the move with.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Only one pair of jeans just seems fuck. I mean
that means you can't wear jeans when the one jeans
are being washed. That just seems like.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm not going to watch that. I'm not going to wash.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I'm not going to wash jeans in a month. A month?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
What if you spill something, I won't I never have.
These aren't your jeans you're wearing on stage or anything.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Right, My stage outfit is a totally different thing.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
All right, separate things, So that's not a question. Stage
jeans are a separate issue.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Is it's summer, it's summer.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's fall, early fall, late late summer, sixty degrees, so
you won't be uh taking a jacket and then a
very light jacket and then a sweater and a sweatshirt.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well you must recall that you know, anything you really need,
you can get.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
There exactly, Which is why I'm really not going to
let myself bring more than one pair of jeens and
then shocking travel sizes.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I mean that travel sizes, not travel sizes.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
No, but I was gonna say this, Sephora the like
those travel sizes. Yeah, I mean I fantasized about this constantly.
Just it's really hard though, because to maintain the travel
kit that stays the travel kit and doesn't get unpacked
and get home just a complete kit. Yeah, okay, that
just could stay live in the suitcase. Now, of course,
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some products are going to expire and you have to
face that, right, right, But what if stuff that didn't
just lived like that in that thing, you just threw
it in your suitcase. You know, I was thinking of
leaving a kit because that was what my parents have
to think. Okay, leave a kit there.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, I know that's brilliant.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Okay, where it's like I can just show my parents
use and I know that there's like few basic makeup items,
a few basic skincare items. Some of that's happened naturally
due to me leaving things.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, I've tried to leave things like there so that if.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I spend the night, like when you are back at
your parents' house, you're spending the night. Are you in
a bathroom that isn't normally used by them when you're
not there?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Like, is it I'm in the bathroom that's my old bedroom,
which is like something the guest room.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Right, So it's kind of a rarely used bathroom, yeah,
relatively to the other bathroom. So is there kind of
like products that just sort of are there and have
been there for essentially twenty years? Because yes, there's like
the shampoo only gets used there.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Are there are birds bees products from I'm not exaggerating
when I was fifteen. Yeah, but those have been sort
of calcified and they're in a certain drawer. In fact,
we had a little mystery happened in my house because
I had some Tata Harper, gorgeous Tata Harper travel sized
products that I left my.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Parents' house being like we were sent I believe exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So I was like, when my parents' house, I'll have
some Tata there.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I spent the night at my parents' house last week.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Sticky fingers, Mama.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's gone, My products are gone. I run upstairs, nude
wrapped in a towel, winding like a brat to my mom.
Where's my tong? I said, I said, Mom, I don't
have where are my products? So what do you mean?
I go, I had all my little tata herbor I
had a serum and a cleanser and a moisturizer. It's gone.
It's gone. And she was stunned. So I'm not going
(15:23):
to say names, but there are a couple of potential
names of some recent house guests who may have had
some sticky fingers. No, there's no weather explanation.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
There is your mother?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
My mom said, I don't completely unlike my mother.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And also I went rummaging through her drawers. It's not there.
My mother also has cosme. I use she would have gone,
oh I took yeah, yeah gone. No.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I don't believe they took it. That's insane, I know.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Could they perceived the travel size as almost like hotel shampoo,
Like it's like or these or some Airbnb's. The people
will it's like a new thing, like and they had
like they'll leave almost a hotel like little travel like
a soap thing. Yeah, they'll leave like a yeah, take it,
never opened one and it's almost like that's you.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I'll never forget.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I wonder if they thought like no, no, no, that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It's a gift. We'll listen to this. I was moved
by this. I'll never forget. I was in Omaha, Nebraska
for a friend's wedding. I'll never forget. I was staying
at my friend's house and her mother was hosting us.
We were getting ready there to go to the wedding.
I land there. I go into the little guest room.
There is a little basket with fresh towels right there. Yes, yes, yes,
(16:37):
A toothbrush in a package, a razor in a package.
Are you hear what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
No? I am. I was like, yeah, are you I
know someone who.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Fucking kidding me? It brought me to my knees. That
level of hospitality phenomenal and guests who used it all me.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, like I my friend Paul will do that, and
it'll that is bespoke kind of to you. It'll be like, oh,
he'll do slippers too.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Like just that is little like we should all aspire
to that. I want to be that is the hostess.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Although you have to you have to do it, and
he does it this way.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
You have to do it in a way that doesn't
make people, that doesn't become so about your hosting that
they become uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Now you know that they're so aware of the details.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, every detail of every object and every thing that
now you're afraid to move. It's like it's like they've
accounted and inserted themselves into your most intimate moment. Like
it'd be like the bad or a great example, but
like it'd be like a tampon unwrapped, the kind of
tampone that's meant to travel and then but has an
applicator and then you pull the applicator out to load
it up to be ready to be a full sized thing.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
It'd be like if you.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Like resting on a golden tray next to your thing,
and what a host right.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, they caught wind of the period. You know, My
point being the intimacy.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
It's like, hmm, Paul does it perfectly because he does
it in a way that feels actual, Okay, Like you know,
the guests bathroom always just has a little unopened little
toothpaste and a little you know, it's just like.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, there's no effortless.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
It is all about effortlessness of course always.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Being a goal there.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
It is the white knuckled goal. I know, I'm scared
to go to the dentist today.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Oh little baby going to the dentist A cat mood
to be judged. God, I'm behind. I gotta say another
mouth laceration.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I bit.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I was so hungry last night. I think when you
bite the lip due to the hunger, do you know
what I mean? Like I was hungry eating, Yeah, I drew,
I bit, I was eating salmon. I bit my fuck
mouth like it was salmon so disgusting, not bleeding a ton,
But it fucking hurts today. Man, fucking hits.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Your only comfort. You'll love it. Mouthcales quick.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, I know, but you might recall my horrible skin
lacerations a few weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Trenchs that was bad. That really the way in.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
But this it's just right there where anything touches it,
and it's a huge risk of being bitten again. Yeah right, anyway,
then it's protruding. Possibly care I do, thank you, Vinagrette.
Let me just I thrive off salt, vinegar, lemon. This
is what I live for.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Stinging sended further back.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
So also in the interim, I went and looked at
one of my Keto think bars that I'm addicted to.
As a three days I have to completely get off
of it. I can't repurchase palm oil like it's bad,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Really palm oil. I mean it's fine.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Obviously, it's fine, as like an airplane thing, like all right,
I'm on an airplane or something.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But becoming a package, I.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Mean I find it. I find them satisfying as like
a okay, like as far as a protein bargoes. But
it's just I can't be mainlining.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I've frankly been enjoying the Ratio brand bar because kind
of reminds me of an old uh On neutri grain
nature valet. Now what is it it? Maybe it was
nature Valley aikto, Yes, it falls under that. It's like
because it's like sugar free, it's sweetened with some bullsh
you know something.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But it's let's see.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
What it is.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's keto. Yeah, we got to talk about my spaghetti question.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Ratio bar. I ate quite a few of them.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I got lost on an Instagram. As we know, I
don't have TikTok like a fucking elderly person. I got
lost in in a Instagram. Reels of recipes in these
cres are what I eat in today, and I just
can't stop watching it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh, that's what it is what I eat in a day.
Oh my god, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And they're like the most like empty vessels you've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I no, I love them.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I've been I've been lapping up this ratio keto yogurt
and yogurt whatever they have yogurt. Yeah. And then now
they have like cereal and these crunchy bars. And then
I thought I saw them in the dessert aisle, just
like I was like, oh my god, they've made it
to the dessert isle. I thought they were doing like
(21:29):
a sneakers ice cream bar. Seen them and it wasn't
It was kind bar. But I was like, mmm, it
really is exciting when a brand new appears in a
different form.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, you know, look, honey, Chipotle cheddar.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It says ratio food Chipotle Cheddar.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
What No, No, it's like colon ratio.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No. I'm looking at the website. Dull oh, chocolate brownie
a bar. I might scoot over to air once tomorrow
and get some special planes snacks for myself, some travel snacks.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
It appears to be a picture in Vogue Magazine's Instagram.
You can see me in the back at this wedding oh.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Hell yeah, paparazzi. Do I.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Look good? It's a question. I mean, you can't see much.
Why and why do I even need to I send
it to you just for fun?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You sent it?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Oh, I want more? But do you see me?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Vogue from Margaret Quality and Jack Antonov's wedding. Jacquelyn Novak
appears in the background right behind the bride.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
The family wedding. Huge, huge, natural hair, natural curls, beautiful.
Real question, did Vogue? Did Vogue?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Did tag my ass?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I don't think if they tag it's like half a horse.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
They wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
But I think it's more just that a face.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
No, of course they wouldn't, but someone's got to speak up.
I got this thing called gap filler and sprayed around
the edge of and my pipes, you know, trying to
steal everything up this disaster. I didn't prepare. It's all
over my hands, sticky, the disaster. But I couldn't prepare.
(23:10):
I want to do things when I want to do them.
I tore down some curtains that were devastating me and
now were baldly visible to the neighbors. Okay, they had
to go.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Sometimes they have to go, and you just have to rip,
let them be bare until it's time. I've discussed on poog,
I think briefly once my old apartment in New York,
when I was in my twenties early twenties, being in
a fit of being hungover in Migrain, some kind of hess,
ripping my blinds right off my window. Yes, well then
and then taking towels, taking towels.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I had to be like in New York, ripped and
raged like like this is hideous. Like I regularly, when
I think something's hideous, will choose like nothing at all,
even like a bear, like a bear screw, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What I mean. Yeah, like the like the you.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Know, the plastic vertical blind things. They're popular here in
LA and they're always falling out, you know, in rentals.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know, I'm talking about the hanging ones.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
That are like you know, the slats not slats, you
know they call confusing Becau's not really And they fall
out and everything pops up, and I just ripped them
out and then so the structure is still there, but
the blinds are gone, and I feel relief. It's like
one time I borrowed my friend Erica's sweatshirt many years
(24:38):
ago in college, and there was a hoodie and there
was a pocket in the front and there was this round,
almost like grease stain on it, like just perfectly round,
will never come out kind of like just you know
those stains, like it feels like it came from something oiled,
and so people just never And I just looked at it,
and it's probably simmering on adderall and it was just
(25:00):
very obvious to me that the answer was to cut
cut out a perfect, actual stain cut.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
So I did that and like eventually gave it back
to her, like and it was as though I in
my mind, it was as though I had cleaned up
a hem mm hmmm mmm. Instead I cut a large
in the pocket of her sweatshirt. She brings it up
to this day.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
That's pretty cute of you. Here's a question. Yeah, so here, Okay,
you love solving problems. This will be too small a
problem for you. I think I'll make it big dryer
outlets in London. You don't take you, you know what,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You're gonna be shot. But I have a drawer right here.
I just opened it for you.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
One converters two.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Wait, oh my god, no, you'll You'll never believe what
is on a drawer. I just looked down at one
of my three drawers here. None of the other ones
have labels. This one is a tiny label from a
label maker. It says travel Tech.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, are you ready? Are you ready to ask Kate?
Look this is a packing cube. And look at those converters.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Con converters. So I have converters. Here's my question, the
three prong, Like, do I take my hair dryer? That's
my question? Do I take my hair dryer? I'm trying
to think back, have I taken it? I'm trying to
think of last summer when I was in London. Did
I have my hair dryer with the diffuser? Fuck?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
You can't remember. You can't never taken a three prong
I know I can't know because I never feel like
a diffuse is essential on travel.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I mean like you could.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Always do the PLoP PLoP method. You're not going to
get to be able to drive. You're not gonna get
as much volume. No, you're not going to get as much.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I'm on stage every night. I gotta have all for
stage for stage. Yeah, I forgot about it's gotta have
freaking volume. Shit, shit and fuck.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Still there are other ways, but yeah, it's not as speedy. Well,
what if you do this the place you're staying. If
they have a hair dryer already, why don't you do
the whole like one of those diffuser socks over, here's
what it is, that.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Existing hair dryer. I will take the hair dryer.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
My concern is what if I pack it and this
is a real eavesdrop or a fucking epp. We're not
the whole app but this for sure. What if I
take it and it was in vain? You see what
I'm saying. That's my fear. Wait, how would it be
in vain if it doesn't plug in? Like, if it
won't convert?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Are you concerned?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Though, example, it's not going to wait it didn't work.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I think in Italy it didn't work. Interesting, I'm almost
positive I never diffused in Italy. Why can't I remember
these key details of my life. At the end of
my life, I will have spent like six years diffusing
my hair.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
God to be like, wait, let's not leave you. I'm
diffusing in Italy. I mean just like I was imagined.
I'm hungry right now, so I'm just imagining being starving.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I miss being hungry in Italy is the best, although
I was never hungry there.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No, there's no time, and I'll never forget for gonna hit.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It, I'll still, I'll never understand it. Endless meals, pasta dessert, alcohol,
every meal came back light as a feather. You fucking
explained that to me. Heeping pasta, heeping dessert. Aperal sprits
for a day came back light as a fucking feather.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Joyful. Yeah, well, they say, stretching about sun and joy.
Everything is good for you there, talked to her. Yeah,
I know, I know, which is why we must turn
to the spiritual life.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
We absolutely must.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I took ederall today, you did. Maybe that's why I've
covered my drawer with stickers.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Maybe my eighties you sorry. My alarm just beeped in
a way that I find upsetting.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I want to guess more products just by their sight alone.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Full some it's funny, the idea of that being.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Once I navigated through a series of through like a
streaming thing with no visual to the show, I wanted
end the episode.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Honestly, Yeah, it was a very long time ago.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Oh, my mother ew. She just wrote, I put on
the lotion in your room goop and then she goes,
dad just said you smell so.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Good ew ew.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Okay, wait which product that I must have left some
goop behind?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Have you ever actually had the strength to submit a
super bowl a super bill to your insurance, because I'll
tell you right now. I once went, you know what
that means to submit a super bill?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Therapy that you submit to your health insurance?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh, I mean it like where they added all together.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, you said to your insurance and they go, okay,
we'll give you this much back.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I've never tried to the only thing I've done is
when I've gotten Like when the yeah, when the insurance,
like there was an issue and I had to pay
like insane amount of money for a prescription, I went
after them.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I had to rent was due?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, I submitted a super bill.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Speaking of consignment, what about it? Can it pay the bills?
How many dresses do you need?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You get like eight dollars. It's like you buy a
dress for four hundred dollars, you can sign it and
you get a check for like thirty dollars or something.
I don't know how don't listen to me, but I'm
pretty sure it's bad. It's like on that level.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Yeah, I guess that's why you got to use the
apps and you can try to get try to get
more calling.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Let me just tell her all call her back. I'm
gonna tell her all call her back and sure, hi.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Mom, I have anything?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Okay right now?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Well wait, I'm recording poog.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Oh okay, okay, I'll peculat okobye.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I thought that could be fun for the listener.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
No, I agree, I wanted more.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I know that's unusual. She's she's testing her phone. It's
like she perpetually her phone like doesn't work. She got
a new phone. She's like, I can't get texts. I'm
like you can, though I know you can. And then
it's like my phone's not buzzing, and I'm like do
this do that?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
You know?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah? She looked so.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Just the other night was her date to a wedding.
Oh really, we're dancing to Abba dancing queen.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Oh this is big?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
What are you ready?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Okay, So I'm reading Thick Faced Black Heart. Okay, like
I told you about it. What's that The Warrior Philosophy
for Conquering the Challenges of Business and Life by Chinning Chew.
I don't know what international bestseller written anyway, Obviously I
was drawn in by the title. I mean, yeah, I
(31:48):
think I think my heart could could could go darker
and my face could get thicker. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, how to be like? How to like you know, mercial?
So I can't say the word mercilessly? How do mercilessly
succeeded businesslessly? Mercilessly? What's happening to me?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Jesus merciless Yeah, merciless meaning through negative thinking?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Is chapter five, and I just the relief.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Okay, thick faced black heart practitioners do not accept the
common rules of success. Okay, So anyway, this is like
this chapter you might find inconsistencies with other chapters. Well,
you know, good luck universe isn't consistent. It basically say
it's being sure it's fabulous. Okay, it's fabulous a death
sentence awaits uh whatever. It really just goes like basically
(32:39):
it's saying like if you're if you're negative, you don't
have to fix that all before you can move forward.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Of course, negativity. I was reading this in my book.
But it's like pain, like negativity that we live in
this like positive culture. It's like sickening. It's killing us,
like positivity poison. It's like, you know, pain is I mean,
we're talking abo, we're talking different things, but pain is
where life happens. It freaks.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, and and so this is saying not babies life now,
therefore we spend enormous uh.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
If you consider yourself a negative individual, in your inner
voice often tells you that you can't do it, don't
fight back.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yield to your voice. By ignoring it, you'll.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
You know, I mean that was like, okay, tenant of
my depression approach. Don't argue with the devil. The devil
always wins.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, yeah, totally smart.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
By ignoring your voice, you know, blah blah blah, you're
free to free yourself from the trap that says change
comes before success. It's like, no fucking fucking go anyway,
this I love. So then listen to these headlines The
power of hating life. Okay, okay, if that isn't the bomb,
that isn't the sad already, if you think your life
(33:53):
is draged and you hate it, I will I will
not attempt to talk you out of your opinion. However,
I think you can benefit much more if you change
the object of your hatred instead of hating life, hate God.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh we were reacting to some I realized I forgot
to put my salad in the fridge. Hang on, fuck
my seventeen dollars salad from Ariwon.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
That was not a typo you read correctly, hate God? Ironically,
so many people love God but hate everybody else.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Sure, God, damn it? Sorry? Are you ready a seventeen
dollars Chinese chicken salad I forgot to put in the fridge?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah? Where from goop kitchen?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Arawan? So listen to me right right quick? You know
this whole thing like, oh, you can't meet out for
two hours? Of course you can't. Yeah, of course you can, right,
I don't know. Fuck, don't tell me you would throw
that away?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Fine your salad, You're fine, You're fine. Chinese chick a
picnic table, it's cooked. Okay, keep going ping, Okay, Okay,
so I'm to reread this paragraph.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Okay, great, the power of hating life.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
If you think your life is a dragon, you hate it,
will not attempt to talk you out of your opinion. However,
I think you can benefit much more if you change
the object of your hatred. Instead of hating life, hate God.
I don't like that's what I asp that. No, Okay, okay,
I know now listen, listen. Okay, it's going to come
back around. You think I'm You think I am a friend. Okay, Well,
(35:27):
you don't have the issue of this particular person with
this negativity.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Okay, yeah, God, just.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Let I know what irritating complexity I to love God.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I know you do. Keep going.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Okay, that was not a typo. You read correctly, hate God. Ironically,
so many people love God but hate everybody else.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
We know this. Okay, So there you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
The man who hates his fellow man and loves only
God is no lover of God.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Sure, sure, sure, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
But then if hatred exists within you, then the best
thing you can do is rechannel the hate from man
to God. Since the essence of God is love, Okay,
hold on other people's attitudes towards him or inconsequential. Unlike humans,
God cares not whether you hate him or love him.
He is like a fire, which you may love or hate.
But as long as you come close to fire, it
(36:18):
will warm you. Okay, hold on. The emotions of hate
and love come from the same source. Hate is another
side of love, and only do to love can hate
exist In the Bible Revelation three sixteen. So then, because
thou art lukewarm and neither hot nor cold, I will
spew thee out of my mouth. The only time God
will ignore you and silently wait for you is when
you totally ignore him. So as long as you focus
(36:40):
your attention towards God, he will purify you, support you,
and rehabilitate you. You may then see your hatred transformed
into divine love. So it's really saying, Okay, if you're
sitting there hating man and hating your fellow man and
dealing with that, right, that can't that isn't you know
(37:01):
what's that doing for anyone? Okay, let's just say you
literally take that and you go instead, I'm gonna hate God. Okay,
you bring that to God by actively focusing on God.
Okay in this way like like it's basically saying, like.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Give it a shot, honey, a little warm you. It's
like lay it. It's like saying lay it on God.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, I give it to God.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Sure, but it's not just give it to God. It's actually,
I mean, I'm.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Struggling, it's not working for me. Focus, I'll focus more.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
The thing.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
As long as you focus your attention toward God, he
will purify your support.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
You would rehabilitate you. Well, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So you may then see your hatred transformed into divine love.
So you can hate fellow man forever and it will
not transform you.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, okay, right, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
So then bring it over to God.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Get on your knees, rage, wrestle with the angels, okay, okay,
And when you're there before God, in conversation with God,
just say, by hating, I hate you, got to hate you?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, yeah, you're you're in it with God. And there
what happened?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Okay, it's interesting, okay, okay, I mean I didn't share
it because it sounded like the average whatever ye say.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
But it's it's and then you know, and then a
serious of it because.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
You're submitting to something. If you're allowing yourself, God can
handle me. Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Your hatred and it will there therefore transform other men.
Nothing gets transformed through your hatred of other.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Of other people. It's huge looking outside for you another
time with a spider web.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I'll come for you another time with it.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
No, I mostly did not respond enough.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I hear it. No, I want you to.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I just I want you to find the same sort
of thrill because to me, it's like this. To me,
it's like it's hardcore in this way that is so
much more exciting about God. Okay, then bringing kind of
a lukewarm love like he hearing again and getting it
like we love God. I love God. You know, like
(39:10):
there's something like and therefore then when you are a
pit of hate, depression whatever, that therefore you keep yourself
like basically bring your your hate and depression.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Into the altar. Yeah, yeah, instead of.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Today I don't go into the sacred because I'm too angrydeous.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
No, no, of course, yeah, and I do think, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
It did something for me. It's fine, you know, No,
I I hear you.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I'm just imagining myself in a classroom, just reading, reading, reading.
It's just like like if I like, just like if
I were just this like teacher who was like just
so excited at the front and my eyes desperately searching
the crowd the crowd, the crowd just reading the text
(40:02):
with I mean, the thing is like whatever, yeah, me
needing you to love it right now or feel the
same thrill that I'm feeling.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's probably because also I've been.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
No, I'm interested. I feel like I didn't well, I
don't know, keep going. I couldn't match your enthusiasm. But
I was listening. I did think there was something that
I was I think I understood it was and was sparked.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, I think, I think, I think, uh.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Well, it's also like it's also in the context of
the rest of the book, like you know what I mean.
I mean, like you know what I mean, and that's
the chapter that that you know, whatever, It doesn't fu I.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Just find it more. It's funny to me. The whole
book is about business. I think that's where I bristle.
It's like as a way to like succeed in business,
which is like to me, ultimately the most hideous like
oh like like.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yes, but but you have to understand.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Okay, it's like this book is from let's see like
nineteen eighty four, Yeah, let me guess, nineteen ninety one,
two thousand and seven, no, maybe twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Let me just find it post two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I love going anxiety like I don't haven't like, I
love going to a thing. I'm getting to it. I mean,
I'm looking for it.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Hold on, my guess is post two thousand and eight
or the nineties.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Nineteen ninety two?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Ooh yeah, okay, that that's the very.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
But her, her fucking story is quite interesting. The point
is I love when you know this. I literally love
to roll into the business section. No, I know, I know,
because you're gonna get something, not like the medicine you need,
you know what I mean, like the self help fuckers,
(41:56):
the ones who you're already drawn to the spiritual section.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, no, hey, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Get conversations around money or the almost the only contemporary
way to have a conversation about God, the only kind
of you can still be welcomed into polite society if
you talk about your desire for money, talking about a
desire for God is practically makes you an instant social pria.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
You know, Yes, i I'm just I'm just I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
I I I love the fight for achievement in people.
I fucking like I love it.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I love I ultimately deplore the fight for achievement. But
I do see it in myself, of course. I mean
I have a podcasting going on stage.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Money achievements, personal you know what I mean, private victory.
It doesn't have to be a public victory. But I
do think there's I mean, to me, like the opposite
of depression, like to I mean, for me personally, like
to get back into wanting things.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
No, I understand. Is like I'm like nurture it. Don't
transcend it.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Don't transcend it because I can transcend it and then
slip into meaninglessness.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
So it's like value the thing.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I am a wanting person, trust me.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, I just I don't know. I really like, I
don't know. I remember my.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Painting teachers saying, wrestling with the angels. You know about this.
I was struggling in the class wrestling with the angels,
and I just love that knowing knowing nothing. I like
that phrase and everything that it conjures.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
A favorite favorite phrase of mind. I think, wait, is
it young or is it Campbell? I think it's.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Cast out gods.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
No, you take you need to only take one step
towards the gods and they will take ten towards you.
Oh yeah, beautiful, Yeah yeah yeah, m real words to
fucking live by. I had those carved in my journal.
Oh my god, imagine carving in your journal.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Yeah no, I was. I was picturing them pushing through
to the carved next age.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah. Well, look at this. I think we have to reco.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
A frequent guest on Larry King Live, I just I
love that.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
It's hysterical. Nineteen ninety two Larry King Live. Unbelievable him
getting a constant BJ for twenty years under the desk.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
I was lying in bed thinking there is no lot
of blowing raspberries as they call it, okay in the business,
all to make my cackle, not blow out the mics.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I'm bringing about my cackle. It's not who I am.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
And I've been doing it because I've because I don't
want to cackle too cackling.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I love crackle. Should we go a little girl?
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Okay, great, I'll talk to you in a bit.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Okay, love you bye, Love you bye. That was food.
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