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June 6, 2023 54 mins

Kate got eaten alive and will die in this town. Days before the taping, JN has and hasn’t let go. A porridge is introduced but no mugs will suffice for dinner. The British in Hollywood. An Oscar special must be done. Haunted shapewear trips, haunted organ meat meals. 

 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kate ber Lance, I'm Jacqueline Novaka. And this
is poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive, fresh,
two untamable intellects. This is our hobby, this is our hell,
This is our naked desire for free products. This is poog.
Today's topics Loolie speaking, the mezzanine, the flax meal, anything
less than life changed. We're in, We're in, going on,

(00:26):
do not disturb. There we go, flip it, flip it.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm realizing I should, uh, Chris, send up my coffee
or just fucking water? Right?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Have you ever heard of that concept? Water in the morning? Yeah?
I hate it. It feels really like good morning. It
is morning, poog. It's actually Saturday morning, Poog, and I
it's officially June. And last night I had the experience
which I hadn't had in a long time, which is
I got into my bed. The point is I was

(01:00):
eating alive by bug last night. Not eating alive, but
I'm talking about one, two, three, four, five, yeah, five
bug bites mosquito. Well here's what's so eerie. So I
got into bed and I was like, you know what
to do? Not look at my phone, not watch a show.
I'm gonna just close my eyes and be with God.
And I'm drifting off and then bam, I start itching

(01:21):
and I feel a huge welt on my arm and
I'm like, what must be a mosquito bite? Drifting drifting?
Wait what? I start to itch my side, I feel
a welt. I get up, turn the lights on, whip
the sheets back. I'm looking looking nothing, and I'm hovering
in that room being like, do I hear a mosquito? Nothing?
Nothing in sight? All the left side of my body,

(01:41):
two on the leg, left side, two on, like my ass,
my lower back. What the fuck? This is the story? Yeah? No,
I'm not questioning the content.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I kept, I kept, and it kept waking me up
in the night because I was just like, I'm being
alive something. What is it? Isn't that eerie though? What
could have? Is it a spider in my bed? I mean,
is there anything more? I mean, I mean I think
were you outside no at dinner? No? No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
You weren't at dinner because you were always at dinner.
I wasn't at dinner last night, okay, And there was
no mosquito.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
In the room. I mean, I didn't hear anything.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
And are they mosquito bites? Like a classic mosquito bite vibe?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, like you can't I can't see, but but yes,
classic mosquito. So summer is here. There's almost something and
maybe you just noticed. I'll never know, and I have
more exciting material than that. When is this coming out? Tuesday? Yeah?
All right, so the last chance for the people to

(02:42):
join me in New York City. Oh my god, so Tuesday.
So your wedding's on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
We're here Thursday and Friday. The bride Oh shit, yeah,
you know, and I've let go. Yeah, no, it's not true.
It's not true. I've well, you know all of the
I was rolling through Bloomingdale's yesterday hunting for shapewear.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I was, let me get deserted empty.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
The ones at the mall are a little better Century city.
Oh okay, there's a little bit of mall energy at
these that continues. But I have It's this thing that
before anything significant, it's like I end up in a
mall or a shoe store. It's like what I do.
I'm nervous, and I go, I need a new bra

(03:27):
or I don't have a bra. Like it becomes this
obsession with preparing the body in these ways, like you know,
a lot of times it comes down to shapewear, like
literally like suiting suiting my skin up, like.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I will be protected.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, if my clothes are ripped from me, like in
the middle of something, like I'll still be wearing a
bathing suit underneath. It's like I don't know, and and
it just it's but it's almost this idea of it
becomes this like reckoning with like the fact that I don't.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Have one decent bra you know what I mean. Yeah,
And I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's like I'm going to end up at this place
in the Upper West Side, I bet, like in a panic,
like the day before this place in New York like
a pilgrimage.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
It's called.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
The town Shop or something. It's like this like Upper
west Side bra stor you know what I mean, huh oh,
where they like insist on measuring you, They like insist
I'm putting the bra on.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
You right right, loading your tits in.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, and they put other bra on you in a
way where you're just like, oh my god, is that
what we're supposed.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
To be doing this whole time? I once had an
experience like that. Was it good? I got a really
expensive bra. This is many years ago, I'll tell you,
this is twenty nineteen. I was loaded in actually for
a special Okay, tell me this is when I was
when I was taping my special Cinnamon in the wind,
and I was like, oh, I need to get the

(04:50):
proper bra, you know the Raba woman. And yeah, this
Russian woman loaded my loaded my tits and didn't take
long to load them in as they're not the bags
up the truck. They're not as heavy as I wish.
I wish I had a rack of heavy hangers, but
I just simply don't. And yeah, it was a wild
experience and I got a expensive was it in New

(05:13):
York La Studio city? Okay? Is it a bra shop? Yes? Fuck?
Considering going today? Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
But yeah, yeah, there's the hanted, deserted feeling, particularly in
the hosiery section. Now that's got a little fire in
there because they've got skims and so there were like
there were literally young people like who felt like they'd
made a pilgrimage and couldn't believe they were getting to
look at skims in person. Yeah person is online? Yeah

(05:43):
that was a story I told myself. They even like
I heard these girls they were like, this is all Skims.
And then the other one was like, no, that's like commando,
Like that's this great commando over there.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
They have some respect. It's like I think they said
it's all skims.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I was like, am I control myself from piping in?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah? Like I was like, the friends got it like that,
I need to like support the friend and be.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Like, yeah, she's right, listen to your friend.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Those are skims, and the Skims are packaged in such
a way that it's nearly impossible to locate what you want.
I went home with the wrong thing, like searching through
the sizes. Yeah, of the Skims brand. Okay, you know
what I'm talking about, right, you're familiar with skimms. Yeah, okay,

(06:26):
because you looked a little dull eyed, Okay, you looked
a little convenient.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Who was on the Skims website? Who was who? One
of my favorite bras? In fact, my favorite bra is
Skims and it's sold out. We've talked about this. Remind
me what is it? Like? It's just really simple. It's
like the Demi bra just has I like underwired my bras. Yeah,
zero padding, you know, so it's like an underwire, zero
padded bra that's like Jersey. It's sheer, No, it's Jersey.

(06:52):
Really yeah. Fuck back to Century City.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I guess God, it's good, just these haunted experiences where
I'm there and it's this feeling like everyone else at
the mall is just living their life, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, they don't understand I'm here on a fucking.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Emergency right right, even though you know my like belief
about the mall. It's like a bunch of people walking
around going like who've said to themselves on that day,
Like they look down at their stuff, they're clothed or whatever,
and they just go, I'm better than.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
This, yeah, and get to the mall.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
We go to the mall, yeah, to elevate. I would
love I would love to have you. And I need
a grove. Remember when we went to the grove and
we had sushi. Mm hmm, we had we need a
urgent grove sushi, Blue Ribbon cocktail.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I mean I go there a lot fun, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I go there sometimes daily because I can walk there
and really, oh, I.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Just roll on where you go? Okay, I need to
get there.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
My familiarity my Nordstrom coffee. You know, I've never had
any coffee place.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I mean the place upstairs. Oh, I've actually never been inside.
Isn't it call like twenty seven carrots or something.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
No, that's that's that's a Bloomingdale's frozen yogurt slash.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Oh okay, which is historic.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
They had this one that oh yeah no, but yeah,
I know they had the tart yogurt they originated, they
preceded pink berry, and it's creamier, I think, is how
I remember. It's very creamy. And then they have the
raspberry kool A, you know, all of that. So it's
an era. And like I was thinking about asters walking
through Bloomingdale's, like my mom calling it Blooms, you know

(08:29):
what I mean, like stuff like that, Like just like
we could just go to Blooms. But yeah, the department store,
the experience of the different sections and wandering into this section.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Oh, but the skins.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
So they're in these boxes and a tiny transparent sticker
says what product is inside, a tiny transparent sticker with
a tiny icon showing like bodysuit versus whatever. And they're
in drawers and the drawers aren't labeled some of them
are labeled they're labeled wrong. It's really chaotic. And then
I go home going I'll just do it online. I'll
do it online online, you know. So I'm back to

(09:05):
the store, I go and you know, I went home
for the wrong thing. Decided to keep it. A lot
of people are bitching, and I do think it's pretty
interesting because I was like, I sat there, I was
peeing while I was thinking about this. Yeah, just remember
the thought located in the room.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
It was like, so people are not happy that the skims,
body suits, et cetera, shapewear sub have.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
No pea whole okay, okay, like spanks do. Oh okay,
So in order to pee you have to literally wrench
your body suit. Well, yeah, that's one option. What do
you how so you're spreading, you're gaping your skims over
the toilet and praying piss doesn't get on them exactly.

(09:48):
There's just a few things going on.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
One the first piece is if you're in really serious
shapewear that is hard to get on and off, okay, right,
which some of these are. If you're doing it like
they have a thing where they're like size whatever for
every day we're and they're like size.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Down for evening. Yeah, damn.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
And it's the whole idea of no one likes to
have to get naked in the bathroom. It's like, you know,
you're you'd be pulling up your dress, you'd be unhooking
the whole thing, pulling it down down over your hips
whatever to peece. So spanks, et cetera. Has a gap, okay,
and I'm always afraid to use it for the same

(10:29):
reason you're describing. Yeah, it feels insane to sort of
like sit down with like full on bike shorts essentially
and then sort of pulled aside.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Like so, I tried it the other day and I
was like, this can't be right.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I was like, this feels really risky right before like
going on stage and I was like, you know, testing
out like body suits under jeans and tea, and it
was like, this is the risk.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, pisssoaked on national television.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I love the idea of national television. It's so wonderful
because it's like so sixties.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
And no I miss it. I have a new recipe
that I'm obsessed with. So as we know, I've talked
about the chocolate thing, moon milk moon milk. I talked

(11:27):
about the life changing bread. I have one that is
now has risen above both of those. Really, it's risen
until the realm of obsession. Wow, when I tell you
I made this four or five days in a row. No,
a whole loaf, No, no, no, this is a whole new recipe.
I'm breaking it live. Oh it's not even a bread recipe.
This is a new Kate's Corner recipe. Yeah. So I

(11:49):
was on Instagram, which, by the way, I have taken
off my phone and I have am I'm going back in.
I'm going going back in. No, No, I don't want to.
I mean, of course I will go back in.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Oh, I'm off Instagram now forever. You mean you're still off.
It's been like three days or four days, and I'm like,
I don't. I can't. It really is, I can't peak.
If I peak, I'm fucked. I'm in. You know, anyway,
the point is there, what's the peak going to do?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
There?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Peak? Get one little bite and.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well that's a little that's not gonna I know.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
The peak The peak is checking for for go into
a message, post something essential, leave.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's just like anyway but really hard. It's really hard.
So in my in my discovery, I got sent I
saw this woman making this, and she's like, do you
like Gia pudding. I'm like yeah, She's like, well, I'm
obsessed with flax porridge. So listen to me here, folks.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Well, welcome because I don't have an allergy to flax,
so welcome to my new world.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well, I think this is gonna be huge for your
hang on, I want to get I want to pull
up the exact.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
And I'll also recall you me are two of the
only Americans that made the flaxed curly haired Jill back
in the day independently. That's crazy, boiling flax seeds to
make a gel, make a gel that was supposed to
be the best for curls.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Wow, Okay, I have it here. Everyone, listen the fuck
up because this is even to credit the woman. Yeah,
I'm in a credit woman.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I am going to credit woman because I was looking
for the screen grap but I didn't know her name.
But I have it here on Instagram Christina with three
a's dot Thornton. Okay, okay, my heart is pinding. Okay, listen,
three tablespoons ground flax seed. Okay. Three tablespoons shredded unsweetened
coconut okay, tell me when you're when you're spiking you

(13:37):
when your heart set stray because you don't like it.
One tablespoon of a nut butter of choice, okay, dash
as salt, splash a vanilla X back.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Wait, I just realize something. Hold on, yeah, hold on,
I don't know what we're even making. Oh no, I
forgot for guys, like, it's not bread?

Speaker 1 (13:52):
What is it? Okay?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Some a dd Do you understand that the brain has gone?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I think I couldn't remember. I think it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I know you at at you that half half a
cup of milk of your choice, okay, fourth of a
cup of water.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
And then you throw in a scoop of.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I forgot again. For a second, I was like, wait,
what are we making? Forgot again?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Floxy porridge? All right? Go on? And then you throw
in a scoop of any kind of like protein powdery
thing that you like. You know what I'm throwing in
there is the vital protein's chocolate, right? I think you
mentioned that collagen? Which fuck you sent me?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Really?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
So this is right? Zero sugar doll isn't it sweetened
with something the vital program? Yea, yeah, there's like a
Stevia blend bullshiting in there. It's like again it's on
the kind of eat every day necessarily, but anyway, that's it.
And they also say you can add mashed banana if
it's not sweet enough for you whatever, right, but you
mix that all together sugar and yellow lipstick is when

(14:49):
I call that. But sure, what do you mean? Oh,
I just mean the mashed banana.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
These these recipes like they're like, you know, it's just
like whatever the banana is, the can of coke, that
whole thing.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh my god. I'm not saying they're the same. They're not. Okay,
it's just sort of the like, I don't know, there's
a language the mash banana is optional. No, I know,
I don't have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I'm just taking a moment to reflect on sort of
like the language of health, like just this sort of
world of like so, you know, you grind up some dates.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I don't know, it's just I know what, we can't
demonize banana and dates.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
No, it's all it's all, you know, it's real. I'm
just what's real? There's something with hearing the words mashed.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Banana that.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I don't know. I can't. I can't explain it. I
can't explain it. Just continue there. I don't have it,
so I can't. That's it, that's fine, that's.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
What it is. You mix it all up. I'm telling you,
it's fucking unreal. Wait, you mix it in the bowl.
Cook nothing, you cook nothing, You mix it all together.
The flax seeds are just it's a flax seed meal,
so it's ground fox, right, So then you mash it
all together. I've thrown some frozen blueberries on top, dash
of cinnamon on top. You want whatever. I'm telling you,

(15:59):
this is so good. And here's what I love about it, folks.
So my smoothie. My big thing with smoothies is that
they do not fucking satiate me. In an hour later,
I feel like I'm starving, like very Typically it just
doesn't work. This is like, well, why would this work
satiate you?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Right? If there's no fat in it, it's really the issue.
But go on, Yeah, but this works. It's like actually satisfying.
I'm telling you, I'm gonna post photos whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
It's so good. I've completely obsessed with it. No, no,
and it's so easy you just whip it. Let me
just take it back for a second. So I know
it sounds like what could it be? What's the biggest ingredient?
Is the three I mean it's three tablespoons of ground
flax seed and three tablespoons try a coconut, right, Okay,
So that's where you're getting in. And then the milk is
how much half a cup almond milk, fourth cup water

(16:47):
or any milk.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Because there were three quarters of a cup so far
with liquid picturing a mug okay, I like the picture.
Throw that other shit and.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
The tablespoon of a nut butter okay, scoopy your powder
of choice. That's really fucking protein powders. Whereworth getting things
up a little bit? M hmm yeah. And what's the consistency.
It's like a pudding, it's like a por It's a porridge.
It's a goddamn porridge. And it is. I want it
right now. And I got my our mutual friend who

(17:16):
recommended the chocolate deep chocolate milk his obsession. I've got
him on this and he's sending me pictures. I'm doing
it again. It's their own Okay, he's like, I had it.
I had it for dinner last night.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
The porridge. Yes, well, that he's didn't waste away. You
can't have something that fits inside.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I'm not trying to say that it's that it's an
appropriate dinner. I'm just saying that he's so obsessed with
it that he had it for dinner. Yakay, like twice
in a day he was like breakfast and I was like,
I need it again. So everyone, I'm telling you, hag porridge,
I'm stealing this woman's invention. But it's goddamn good. So
the flax porridge has been huge. Coconut what like.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
There are a few of course of the episode, just
like he just like reviewing the like instead of like,
you know, so send me the recipe.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
It's like, did you say a fourth of a what
cub of water?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm sorry, I'm gonna en force the listener to memorize it,
but yeah, I'm just yea.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, I actually it's so easy and it's I.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Don't think I could have that and only have a
mug of that. See I that's my like.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
By the way, it's not even like I don't really
see this as like a vine it's good. I don't
want seven bites. Yeah, that's my problem. This is really great.
It's I got post workout kind of energy search. Yeah,
it's really it's really goddamn good. Okay, I'm gonna pivot
wildly to something that I saw, which is that this
guy going, are you guys fucking idy your mind? Using

(18:40):
cast iron? Pans? Iron ages you, as we know from
ion and care pulls the iron out. And I want
to say I finally finished my I used a full
thing of the ion I cream. Yes, I think it's good, Honey,
I bet, I think it's fucking good.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
And so I mean, I've used like all of my
of the two of the ion motion from them, I'd
really like to reach out get a reup.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, anyway, the whole point is that iron but that
line does essensibly takes the iron out of your skin.
Iron ages as. Remember there was all that stuff about
people who give blood live the longest because they're getting
rid of excess iron. Do you remember that? It was
a little thing, a little flash in the pan thing.
I was like, what interesting? And then this guy's going, hey, guys,
and again take this for a too ill. Of course,

(19:25):
cast iron beautiful lifestyle, all of that. I'll never forget
seeing letting ramps blister over a cast iron and their
small peak season, which I believe we're approaching. I think
ramp season is mid July, two weeks. Maybe they're good.
And I laugh in the faces of people who serve
ramps other than if you're serving ramps for more than
two weeks, you're not serious about produces, and I don't

(19:45):
want anything to do with your business. Okay. So he's
going on and on about if you're using cast iron,
you are putting iron in your food, you are aging yourself. Okay, terrifying.
I also saw, oh yeah, remember I sent you a
toxic and accoun iron deficient So that's where they Yes
we are, Yes we are. But he's just basically saying,

(20:06):
don't cook all your food in a cast iron pan, right,
because you're possibly getting too much iron over the vegetable man. Okay,
so I sent Jack on a five toxic account. That
is unbelievable. I mean, if you get into the Instagram,
like the Discovery the pages that I was being.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Observed pushed so served is generous, right, and pushed force fed,
tube fed through my nose.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
So there's a there's a haunting community of people who
only eat like meat, organs, fruits. Oh, is that what
he is is like a carnivore account. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
And it's this whole thing of like like not eating
any vegetables, like vegetables, like like like humans aren't supposed
to eat vegeteles. He had this whole thing where he
was like spinach people talk about spinach is a health food,
Like spinach is toxic. You know. It's like all this stuff, right,
and and it's him, and then there's I got taken order.
This woman, this fucking woman who it's like wake up
with me. And it's her waking up at four am,

(21:03):
like red light blasting on her face. She's like doing yoga,
she eats like a pound of beef and a banana,
and then she's like working out outside at a standing desk
like sun blasting, you know, being like getting the vitamin
D barefoot, she's grounding. And then it's her having like
another pound of beef for lunch. It's just like at
an outdoor standing desk.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
What is the work. I mean, it's creating this content exactly.
It's making this Yeah, yeah, absolutely it has to be.
And then it's and she's like, this is what I
eat in a day. And then it's like laid out
on this table and it's like, yeah, it's just me.
It's interesting banana.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's so sorry.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
I want to do the kind of work thing and
I want to talk about that man when he said
what my thought about it was.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
And he also wears like no motion that it was
kind of cool. He was like, I don't wash my hair. Oh.
Then this one was like I haven't washed my hair
in a year. And he's like he's like, I don't
do any lotions. I don't wear deodorant because guess what,
I eat this food and this food makes me smell
great and makes me and I would not like to
be in a car with him. I don't want to
hear what he says. It was. Really it was like anyway, yes,

(22:06):
why I went down a thing where I was obsessed
with these their belief system. No, it's well, hey, I
hear you talking about the benefits of like organ meat
and like I'm like yeah, for sure, Like like yeah,
this whole thing. I stumbled on this other guy's account.
What's all about the beef liver jerky?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, livers, there's this dentist who talks a lot about
like children eating organ meat.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
He sounds like a fucking something to you on a
watch list. I don't know, I don't know. He makes
some very interesting the dentists focused on children eating organ meat. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, because he's he's you just love it because it's holistic, Okay,
because he's recognizing all these problems with m dentistry that
are not just coming from don't get well.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
The dentistry stuff is so overwhelming.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, if you go down to the whole time people
for them taking women's teeth, what do you mean in
the early nineteen hundreds, No, it was like a I
think I've got this right.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
It was like for depression, they just took their teeth.
I'll get it. Try anything, just look, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I think it was like, I mean, it probably came
maybe it came from like someone had a tooth and
friction that was going into the brain.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
And then then yeah, well that's the real thing. And
then people you go down these accounts of them, oh
I had a root canal, or I had a crown
filled in this year, and then my life was never
the same. I was like, oh God, And people go
through this like dentistry. There's a hole underfucking belly of
like dentistry, like holistic dentistry. It's so overwhelming. Anyway, flos

(23:41):
twice a day if you can. Yeah, I know it's
a lot, but fuck stay out of the chair if
you can.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Right, right, Well, it's like this term I remember, like
iatrogenic okay. Iatrogenic Okay, it's like a medical term. So
let's say they were like, unfortunately, you suffered fromatrogenic pelmonary
whatever okay, And like the families like they say it
to you, like they they're like, yeah, we've diagnosed you

(24:08):
with iatrogenic pneumonia okay.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
And you go home and.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
You're like wow, okay, struggling to explain this.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
The point is iatrogenic What that word means? The iatra
I actually is doctor?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
My actually is medical okay, So like a p iatra
is a pediatrician, like is a kid doctor? Right?

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Iatrogenic caused by the doctor what okay. So like they're like,
we're so sorry your husband has just died of iatrogenic pneumonia.
And you go home and you're like, yeah, my husband
got this horrible thing I atrogenic pneumonia I'm I'm dramatizing it.
But the point is, like there's a word there, and like,

(24:53):
have you ever it's like idiopathic, so unknown pathology, so
like all me being diagnosed with idiopathic hypersomnia.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
You go home and you google it, it's hypersomnia, honey. Yeah,
oh god. Well, by the way, speaking of iatrogenic deaths,
did you see do we talk about the Good Doctor
on Poog? Have you seen it? Yes?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
We have?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
We have it?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, I think I sent you may talk about it.
I mean the one with yeah Chestain because there's the
Good Doctor. And the next way Chestain and Eddie red
n are the wrong title because there's the Good Nurse.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
The Good Nurse. Oh, we did talk about it on Poog. Okay,
I'm gonna just say it again to everyone's A Good
Doctor is a different program that I can tell you
about it. I get excited when there is an acting
be real when acting, by the way, when acting is real,
we go yeah, yeah, I thought it might be. And
I want to say something which I have and I
can admit this. I have a thing about Eddie Redmain.

(25:49):
I've always been like, no, when actors love acting too much? Yeah,
it becomes distracting. It's hard. Yeah, when you see them
inside there all going look at me, go mommy, you know,
it's a lot and I and I struggle with there's
a thing that happens and it's not their fault, but
there's a thing that happens to British actors when they're
in the States where they grovel here we go. I guess,

(26:14):
like a British actor on a stage in the States, Yes,
something happens with them sometimes I can't figure it out.
But they on the stage, did you say, or an
American film whatever, I guess what I'm talking about. I'm
specifically referencing in my mind Eddie Redmains. I think Academy
Award acceptance speech where that's because Americans we do fetishize

(26:37):
British people, right, we fetishize you know, the charm and
the poetics of right. Yeah, and they kind of like,
oh and so I think they get a little kick
off that. How could they not so Eddie Redmains like
on this like I've seen him be a little too
like my god, think you you know it's like a
little too.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
It's like it's like, you know, it's like a little
is that what you're saying about the kind of like Okay, so.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Even stands here off, it's like that kind of thing.
It's like it's a little and I go.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I go less, no, less, Seadie, hold on, hold on.
It's a way. So this is very interesting. So so
you think.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
They can't help themselves.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
No, but you think they some or all or there's
a tendency to Actually, I'm sort of intrigued that you
think they perform respect for the American institution of acting,
like you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I think that, and I think they're deeply aware of
like the piggish culture of America. Yes, and so I
think there's this thing of like are they very honoring it?
That's what I'm saying. Are they? I think there's a
genuine I mean, there is a global and eternal respect
for the Hollywood institution, which, by the way, why the

(27:58):
fuck do you think I live in LA because I
have some fucking respect? Yeah, okay, Yes, I love movies, bitch, Yes,
and I will rot in this town. Yeah, I don't care.
You know where you know where I want to All
we have, it's all we have. Right now. I'm looking
I see the Hollywood sign yeah, and I can't not live, yes,
in Hollywood, Yeah, unless I'm in New York.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
No.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
But but the point is there is a but you
know that I think the Oscars are all we have.
Well that's because they are all we have, and they're
literally only meaningful. It's the only sacred right left, and
they won't Okay, whatever we're going to do, we have
to do a three month Oscar special. Yeah, but yeah,

(28:40):
there's something going on with him, with this thing, and
it's like it's deep. I can't quite locate it.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
But they're I'm going under when I see the British actor. Yeah, okay,
I go because they're always you know, the Royal Academy
of Shakespeare or whatever, right, Yeah, they're so yeah, classically trained,
the whole thing, and so I always think, of course
they want to make it in Hollywood, Okay, but they
also have this sort of fallback perspective that if Hollywood

(29:09):
rejects them, they know that they come from the true
London stages.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, but you know, they'd be fools to so I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I just I wonder what they what the British actor
truly experiences that the American oscars. I just you know,
are in the context of that whole. I mean, it
must be great to sort of like to both get
the thing, to be slumming it in the In the
American Pig, we're like when they bring in the British actor,

(29:39):
like to be like a villain.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
In a like superhero movie or something. Do you know
what I mean? Yeah, there's that. No, it's really you
see them in the makeup and they're like they're loving it.
They're loving it so But to bring it back to
the Good Nurse, so Eddie, I always have this thing
about Eddie Redmain. I go, mmmm, he enjoying acting too,
having a little too much fun up the already, or

(30:03):
just something within the role I'm talking about. In behind
the actor mask, I see him, I see his eyes
going and I see it. It's like it's cool. But
the point is, but no way, here's I'm gonna say. Yeah,
I turn on The Good Nurse streaming on Netflix. Everyone
can have it. I know, wordlessly, Yeah, I'm watching him

(30:23):
in the beginning act, no words, I go, he's a master. Yeah.
I was sitting on my couch. I went, oh, my god,
my respect. And he does it. And Chestain is another
actor that people struggle with because she loves acting so much. Right,
because there's a there's a chestain syndrome. Honey, in this movie,

(30:49):
she's doing it. Oh wait, why the fuck wasn't she
nominated for or where were there? What's going on? Why
wasn't you with the oscars? I'm hunted chest haind snubbed,
chest hand snubbed or is it next year? I don't know,
she snubbed. This is I have to I have to
launch a campaign into this because Love Nurse nubbed both
of them huge performances, and I believe The Good Nurse

(31:11):
was ignore number one on Netflix, which is astonishing. Normally
I think that's number one on Netflix is like a
show about beheading your own family or something. It's like
the most depraved shit imaginable. So this was like, this
was this was a good film. Go check it out.
You're gonna you're gonna be entertained. You could pop in
The Good Nurse Saturday night and have a great night.

(31:31):
Oh yeah, because they're gonna be so entertained. No, I'm
just that they don't make them like that anymore. Filey,
This feels like anyway, thrilled with it.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
It reminds me of like see it's you know, well,
it's like the internalized backlash and then the thing transcends
anyway and that boy does that feel good?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Right, Like, so.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
You know, it reminds me like I used to sort
of be irritated as a child with this sense of
the twinkly eyed genius of Robin Williams.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay, like literally eleven used to bother you, Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I was sort of like I was irritated by the
concept of like a comedic genius, comedic genes okay, and
then like the wild like literal twinkle in the eyes
of Robin Williams. Right, And arguably you might say like
some of it is like that there's a.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Bit hamming me.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Okay, I'm a blinkly eyed yeah yeah, okay, and energized
and the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Okay, so it's like it's like whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
But in the stage yeah yeah, so one night, so
it was almost like a bit of like observational humor of.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Like I have to cut in with real I have
the cutting. It's about what you're saying. One of the
most embarrassing things you could ever see a performer do,
and it's also part of the performer's job. And I've
seen Robin Williams do this, and this is bringing up
for me break picture, no no picture. A comedian like
a Robin Wlliams, terrifying, stalking the stage right, walking the stage,
loving it in a theater, in a theater, this is

(33:06):
the most embarrassing thing. And it happens, and it has
to happen. When the actor looks up to acknowledge the balcony.
So the eyes right, they're they're they're performing right, looking
straight ahead, looking straight ahead, they project upward, look upward,
eyes searching to greet those in the mezzanine. And that

(33:26):
is what and by the way, it has to happen,
and it's the mark of theater. And that is why.
Also theater acting is one of the most humiliating, embarrassing
false acts. And it's I mean it's it is one
of the most embarrassing things a person can do, is
get on a stage and be like ha and like
say the words and project that. I mean, it is
just it is Well, that's where I decided.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Its nobility lies ultimately in the willingness to do something
that embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Absolutely, I mean, you're nailed up there on the cross
you're like, yeah, I mean it's but to watch someone
to watch their eyes go up to project to the
mezzanine and it continues. So I was doing that and
I forget where I was.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
It was a theater that had like weeks back, I
don't know, like we're a month, two months ago or something.
Theater that had like structure that it felt like there
was a mes like it felt like there was a
balcony but there wasn't. And the lights were so bright
on me that during the show I kind of couldn't
remember if there are people up there. I mean, not Demez,

(34:24):
but the question and I threw a gaze more than
once just to make sure they were taking care of them.
Lights come on the end of the show. That's a
pro nothing there. Yeah, okay, so yeah, seeing Robin Williams,
I want to go back Toms.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
So I was sort of like it was almost like
a bit of like observational humor for me, like almost
like oh, like I don't know, like like everyone loves Robin,
and I'm just like I'm like, oh yeah, the twinkly
eye genius, Like I would just sort of like throw
that out there. Okay, So I almost had this like
internalized backlash to Robin Williams. And then one day, at

(35:00):
this point, like I'd probably been living with that for
a while.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Well, like you know, I used to like joke. Okay,
I tweeted this once.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
It's like one of my six tweets, and it's a
long heng held observation that the Genie that in Aladdin,
the Genie was a little too much Robin, not enough Genie.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I don't like when Disney does the jokes for the
adults that they are filled with pop culture references, right
of course, and I and by by a little too
much Robin, I kind of mean like that, like remember,
like the Genie was filled with all these like like
impressions of like moments.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I basically a film, remember, But you're right, it's flying
I go.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Through them, you know, and you know, and that's why
it was like the Genies, like it's like it's unbelievable.
But you know, what point are we pulled out of
the animated universe?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah? Yeah, with them, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
So so so then one day I feel like I'm
like fifteen, I don't know, it could be anywhere between
fifteen and twenty, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Could have been thirteen.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I don't know why I can, okay, but I'm like,
all right, it's fine, let's put on the Robin Williams
Special okay or it.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Comes on or whatever. It's like, it's feel special.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
And I'm sitting there on on the rug in my
den again like watching my mom or something, and I'm
like a little like sort of like she knows. I'm
almost like a little suspicious. And he knocked me down
and then he kicked me while it was down.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
What do you mean. I couldn't stop laughing. Yes, yes,
that's so great. And I was like this, oh my god,
to be pinned under his foot. No, oh my god,
where special is that? Yeah, but I should re watch
it now. Fuck.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
He knocked me on my ass, and it's it's like
really experiencing the magic from the other side, because damn,
I never understand why anyone is laughing, like I know, like, yeah,
you know what I mean before like, so I'm like
something like I don't know what's happening, like like and
I don't even believe it's real.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
So it's like I'm like, oh, no, they can get you.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
They actually can get and once they get you, I
don't know how to like that's almost you have to remember, okay,
like did she comfort us? Like I don't know, like
I think, like, you know whatever, you will not be
a behind the scenes comedy podcast, you know, at all costs.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
So I'm going to shut us down now say it.
But I was down. I was that's howling, cackling, rolling.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Like like like where your whole body is taken over,
and I mean it's just a non stop.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Laugh, right that is which. By the way, my mother,
who I'm gonna see today, who went to get on
your knees? Oh my god, one of her, all those
best friends loved it. We talked, I'm on on air
because you haven't told me told me us. By the way,
when have you been around.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
My mom at your house like twice so long time ago.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, I'm trying to think she loved it. You felt it.
It was one of the finest reactions I've ever received
to the show. This is huge. Give it to me, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Like I was like, I almost was like, oh, I
wonder if Kate understands, like, like how good the reaction was.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I don't Kate.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
It was like it was like, you know, stay behind
in the theater whatever, like I'll come. So so the
guy comes over and says, you know, Helen's out there, okay, whatever,
dramatizing it.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
So I love it. You're walking out, you see Helen
standing down stage left house right, Okay, you see it again.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
That's spot curly hair, curly hair, and her friend a
blonde Okay, and you know, immediately go in just I'm
just excited that she's there.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
It's not like I'm not walking out with a Helen.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
What do you think energy, I'm walking out with excited
that Helen's there. I get to say hi to her
kind of vibe. Yeah, and she really seemed gobsmack okay, okay,
she no, she was like she immediately launched into it.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Was I was thinking about it later because I was.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Thinking about how you and me are, like people don't
know how to compliment, like you know what I mean,
and she fucking knew, like their language better transcend okay,
the form of the compliment. So she's like, she's not
even just like that was great, like I was saying.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
She goes like that was.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
A tornado that she just started saying like like words,
you you're the weather or.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Something like you know what I mean, like, oh my god, like.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
That like that she didn't even say like it wasn't
even like you're a force of nature like someone else
might say, yeah, like it would be like.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I walked out and she's like a house just fell
on me.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
You know what I mean. It was like it was
it was very you in that way, like the just
absolute artistry of hyperbole metaphor launched instantly into the language
of metaphor. It was, you know, it filled me up.
I'm so glad it's genuine. I mean, and she's just
a you know, a woman for the ages. She's just

(39:55):
got unbelievable Can you believe her? I mean, she's everything
that everyone you know perhaps gets through you.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
But so warm.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
That's the thing I'm wondering if maybe, like the way
you describe her, like oh, well, Helen would never Helen's
dinner parties or whatever, like almost like if they would
think that she wouldn't be so warm.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
But she is crazy and it's real. It's it's outrageous,
always trying to take a lesson from her book. Yeah, no,
it was heaven though, Oh my god, I'm so glad
it was. It was such an affirmation and completely real
because she also is very because I again I haven't
actually even talked to her on the phone yet. Wich
is shocking this year today. But she she was like

(40:34):
I forgot what she said, but she was just like unbelievable.
You know, she was like laughing the whole time. And
because Helen, she would say to me, she would you know,
she would say to me like she just I would
know if she wasn't truly floored, yes, and she would be.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
She was, you know, you know, one of the lesser compliments,
it was great to see you do your thing out there.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Oh my god, you know I've gotten that. Oh, I mean,
I get it all the time.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Someone text me that a refusal to acknowledge the work.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I'm sorry, great to see out there doing your thing.
How about this go to hell? Go to hell? Well,
here's here's the thing thing and this is actually good.
This is a public service announcement. Again, we'll stop because
we're not behind the scenes called podcast, but listen, people
need to know this. Anything like anything less, anything less

(41:35):
than on your knees performing for the performer. How do
I recover from what I just saw? I'll never be
the same form what I just saw. Anything less than
that take it home. There's this thing that I think
is very real, which is that it is someone show
and you go, oh, they're on stage. They don't need
to know, right, like, oh, well they've already had no. No, no,
I actually think it's one of the most fragile people.

(41:58):
It is hostile. We are frad you know. This point
is huge. This point is huge. This this this thought
that it's like, well they're getting they're adorned with the rhyme,
stunts and the adulation. They're already on the stage. I
don't need more the terror. Didn't they hear the applause? No?
I mean no, absolutely not. No. I mean I mean,
where was this? What is their fragility? Oh?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I sent to John Early, okay, like whatever we're talking about,
maybe as soon as you I don't remember. I was
sending a video or something, okay, from the end of
a performance. And I wasn't sending it to point out
the pack the rack that people were standing. Okay, it
was not I mean I wasn't even trying to do
that subtly. It was literally like look how bad my
shirt looks or something? Yeah, okay, And like I had
just said that the show was like bad, like it

(42:42):
was really not not one of the good ones. Let's
just say and then and I mean it was to you.
I followed. I was dead serious. I go, they stood
out of pity. No, no pity. No, it's just it's
a it's a like.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
There you go. I think, Yeah, so you got to
the other the other thing. This is the best. I
always have to get. Christ remind me. I thought the.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Comedians said it, but it was lined from Rick and Morning,
like your booze mean nothing.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I've seen what you've cheered at. Oh my god, that's
really nice. That's good. Isn't that good? That's really good. Fuck. Okay,
I'm gonna pivot quickly to a when when you when
you and I are back in l A, I have
to cut all this ship like, I don't know, we're
not We're not. It's fine. It's fine. Line, who fucking cares? Yeah,
it's just the age droppers, just us and the Age droppers. Yeah,

(43:29):
we love you. Okay, listen when we're back. So I
went to Pause Spa in West Hollywood. And by the way,
is this where you got the lymphatic drainage? No?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Okay, because I want to ask about that. Oh, yeah,
we'll get into Okay, we never explained why the guy
doesn't like vegetables. I want to Oh yeah, beyond.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, it's it's beyond leftins, it's all of it. But
I went to Pause Spa, which they have sauna and
cold plunge and you can rent a room and you
it's like you can rent for half an hour or
an hour. I went with it with a dear old
friend who invited me, and so you go in there.
We went in there, we're in the sauna together, we're

(44:10):
taking turns, cold plunging. I loved it. Beautiful facilities and didn't.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Cheat already asked water. All right, sorry, but what do
you mean which is true of any pool?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
You mean sharing with her or sharing with the others either,
I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I just
I don't care. It's fucking fine. I don't I don't.
I don't care either. But in a pool with a
child recently.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
In the pool, the child's doing this thing, which like
I get because I remember feeling like this belief in
the infinity of the pool. Okay, not an infinity pool, okay,
scooping water into his mouthing fountain.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Oh no, oh no, oh no.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
And then more and I'm four feet from him, and
I can see there's no awareness that it's you know, cock,
and and then but then the other piece that's even
more sort of disgusting. Yeah, pool, okay, is I can't
dwell to all everyone's like naked orifices, okay, are in

(45:10):
that pool? No water, It's not like it's not sealed off.
Your underwear is not sealed off. I'm not saying I
actually think this is gross in a real way. I'm
just saying, if you want to go down that angle,
it's kind of interesting. Like I don't think we I
think we think that because the genitals and the ass
are visually covered by a piece of soaked through nylon.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
That's somehow you're not swimming in a shared basin of
Oh Jesus, I know. No, it's bad. You can't dwell
on too long. I mean, I don't I don't like
a I don't like that. I mean, and then we
go saltwater pool? We go? Why is that better? I know,
I mean saltwater preferred. But also you can only go

(45:52):
to a saltwater pool if there's like maximum four people
in it at a time. Yeah, and it's at a
place where no more than a certain amount of go
like I also fully but we but we can still
be scared. But it's funny talk about it sometimes. But
I want to formally call out to Pause that I
think they should really be gifting you and I yeah
an hour. Yeah, and this is a formal bag and

(46:13):
may even reach out via I think get photos. Yeah,
we'll do photos. I really liked it, and in the lobby,
this is such an ad that I'm going to hold off.
We'll get You'll get the full Pause. And I thought
of you because I went into the sauna for twelve
minutes cold plunch. I can't get in the cold plunch
for more than like twenty seconds, which actually feels a
real cold one. Yeah, it was quite Yeah, it's cold,

(46:34):
colder then it's not Korean spots. No, No, this is like
a that's like a cool plunge. That's a cold real
Do you think where your breath seized up? Like yeah,
I was like no, it's one of those. Yeah. But
I looked down at my legs in the sauna and
all the veins in my legs were yes, and I
was marbling the marbling right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, the marbling, which I read that's what you get Russia. Yeah,
the Banie and Russia. Where you're beaten with birch branches,
you get a big fucking huge birch branches. Hell, you
get your own, and then you soak them in this
like bucket of boiling water and then you take it in.
My friend Liz were like slapping each other.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I think I told you we're slapping.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Have tits, and like these women had to be like
not on the top of the tits. Oh my god,
we were like these fools.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Also, I want to quickly shout out, guess what I
purchased out of pocket based on your recommendation? Armorrah, oh
my god. Colostrum powder. Okay, well where is I have
to which I was mixing into my flaxy Polidge porridge.
I was mixing it in. Yeah, I believe they're advertisement.
I've only taken it like, but the truth is, I
think I've only done it like three times, so I

(47:44):
have to really you know what I'm getting hooked on?
What advertisement? Wise? I keep getting served something called fatty
me Too that keeps getting served fatty acid thing and.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
I'm just like, okay, what like I want all I
want it all. I want it all.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I want to know, I know, I want pause.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Oh god, I got served something I didn't want. It
was like minimalist account being like stop adding. They were
like what are you hiding from? It was just like
a podcast, like what are you hiding from? It's like
this minimalist guy. And then he's like, you know, talking
about like the more and more and more, like all
suffering comes from addition. Yeah, it's like the fetish you

(48:20):
know of minimalism becomes oh yeah, its own for me.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I'll be adorned, My coffin will be adorned, thank you,
right right, I'll be like weighed down by objects. Yeah yeah,
I mean, and at that time you'll be one exactly.
I mean, I've I used to be much more trinket leaning,
and I've leaned away because I've grown up. And but no,
we have to have our little things. Wait, so we
have we have to leave soon. But I will say

(48:46):
quickly lymphatic massage.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
I said, you bitch when you told me you got some,
because I feel that I need it and I should
have been one a regiment this text month and so
I was just like, fuck.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Just get it before you leave. My my friend loves her.
It is my first time ever having a massage in
the house, Like in this house, this is very luxurious.
Right she comes over. I don't think it gets me
in the clutter and the chaos right now gets me
on the table. She's like, God, damn healer. Okay, this woman,
let me tell you that because she starts. She starts
doing it and she's like, oh, it's your first synthetic massage. Yeah,

(49:21):
she's doing it like oh, and she not to brag,
but she goes, Wow. She goes, you're very clean. Oh
my god, can you believe how that made me feel clean?
And she goes, I'm surprised. She's like, because it's your
first time, you know. She was like, you're very clean.
The writhing, it's the writhing Kate. She goes, you're a
little bit she like was moving. She was like, there's
one little spot in like the back of my leg.
She's like, normally people have a lot here, you don't.

(49:43):
She's like, there's a little bit right here. She goes,
there's a little bit right here, and then she's doing
my face in my head. Oh my god. She hits
the spot on my right on the right side of
my head. Pain shooting at like. I was like, oh.
She was like, yeah, you have a little right here.
I was like, I can't believe this is a spot
on my head that I didn't even me with my
grains headaches, I feel like I know my head. She
hits this one spot that and she goes, you think

(50:04):
a lot. She's like, you're thinking a lot. I was
like yeah. She's like yeah, She's like you need to.
I loved it. She was like, well, you have to
put epsence salt there. You need to put your really
to sell there. Yeah. She's like, you need an hour
before bed. She says, you need to really like do nothing,
no phones, no, not that you have to like. She's like,
it'll go away, the pain will go away if you

(50:25):
do that. You start doing that feeling for it. I'm
feeling for thinking too. And then she she gave me
my first and this was actually uncomfortable for me because
she gave me this really intense stomach massage. She goes,
I'm going to take a picture of your stomach and
I go or She's like she can do the for
and after a picture, she's a really like she's a
Portuguese accent. She's like I'm gonna take a before I'm
just adding that for kind of for the full narrative flavor. Yeah,

(50:48):
give it to me. And she's like, I can't do
the accent. But she was like, I'm going to take
it before and after picture of your stomach. And I
was kind of like I only need that, you know,
And I was like, well, sure, she takes it before
picture of my stomach. She does this massage on my stomach,
which I'm like, have to breathe through because I'm like,
it's like intense. It doesn't hurt, but it's just.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
A really no when they do that, even at the
doctor the physical, it's a very like shocking.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
To hecause, you know, so she's doing she's good to
here because I was like, something's wrong, yeah, immediate hospitalization needed.
So she's doing the massage and I'm feeling like tingling
in my legs, like she's like moving shit, I like
feel it. She shakes. The after picture, I go, WHOA,
the stomach like looks different. It's a carved out, it's
like the fluid or whatever. She is down. I'll give

(51:29):
it to you right now. It was so good. Loved her.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Can you go to her home? I don't know, or
she insistent coming into the home. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
She might insist on crossing the proscenium, so to speak. Okay,
I think we have to go really yeah, wait the vegetables.
I just wanted to say what his point was. He's like,
all vegetables or whatever. He's like, you're not supposed to
eat the greens. You're supposed to eat the fruit. Okay,
you're not supposed to eat the leaves. You're supposed to
eat at the seeds.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
And he's like, cuz you know, oh yeah, the fruit
you're supposed to do so that then you digest it
and then you spread the seeds and they grow. So
he's saying this whole thing about how the vegetable doesn't
want you to eat its leaves because then it kills
the plant. Okay, okay, that was his point, freak, And
I felt like it it had a deterministic like it's

(52:20):
doing that thing. Like it's almost like you know how
the leopard got its spots, Like it's doing this thing
like isn't built into nature? Also that piece that the
plant gets killed half the time.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
See what I'm saying, absolutely no, no, it's such a
gross misunderstanding of.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Like weather, the world in our place in it. Yes,
maybe the plant doesn't want to get eaten and it
still does.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
And you know what it is, it's I see I
see in this people. In these people, there's something I
relate to, and you know, they need to live a
symbolic life, right yea for it, and they are, if
I may going about it the wrong way. Yeah, yeah,
Like it's.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Like they're in the gross when they need to be
in the subtle.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Yeah, wanting to be wrapped up in myths and of
course the plant, right, But it's just it's like, no,
there's sort of making forcing what they're making it about
the plants, like it would be like saying like like,
I mean, the only example I can come up with
is the thing of like I don't know, like it
isn't forest the thing with forest fire not not like
I'm not like it's part of the cycle or whatever.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Not I'm not saying what's happening Okay, no, no, no, of
course of course like that thing like that. It's like
just sometimes the seed is spread sometimes like if the
seed is only spread, then maybe there's an overgrowth of
that particular plant and then that plant dies out because
it's only leaves covered, its only leaves and now the Sunday,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Like it just feels like so like.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Locking in on the one narrative, like piece I don't
know of course.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
And also it's like the plant doesn't want to be eaten.
It's like ever heard of wrath? I ever heard of?
Like I ever heard of like the churning chaos of
the universe and of nature, nature which is defined by
like callous murder, right like like what are you talking about?
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Well?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Right, right? Also a life without a life with a vegetables,
a life without vegetables, life without poetry. The words don't
want to be read, like what are you talking about? Genius? Okay, Well,
I love my girl and I can't wait to see
you in New York. Or I'll see in New York. Okay,

(54:20):
I'll see you in New York. That was Pooh. If
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