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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kate er Lance, I'm Jacqueline Novak.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
And this is poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between
two obsessive freshs.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Two untamable intellects. This is our hobby, this is our hell,
This is our naked desire for free products. This is poog.
Today's topics looslie speaking, rabbit's trough, don't stare overplucked. Hello,
nice halter shaped tank top. Always a good look. It's
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actually dress sounded false, but oh wow, it's an egg.
How's lata dress? Excuse me? Shut out? Wow, there's a gift.
I think I'm design I would want one to No,
I don't. I don't mean that I could get one
in this way. I just I'm sure you could. Yeah,
looks really like a nice Zoe lata. A pood is
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actually one of the greatest necklines on me, the one
that's draped across you right now.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, no, I know, it's really it's perfect for summer.
I just it's like it's so fucking hot out. I
just want to wear like horror rags that you can
just like sweat in.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And then wash and sweat in. I guess sorry, I
just I'm literally looking to see if I get some
Celsius delivered. Stat Really, I ran out, ran out, and
I just want something cold, crisp and refreshing.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I could do a Celsius right now. I'm feeling my Well,
here's what I've been experiencing. Record dehydration, record temperatures had one. Yeah,
I've just somehow the less water you drink, the less
you crave it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
It's just the truth. Interesting mm hmm. I was up
till five point thirty. I was waiting till dawn to
go to sleep because I know you texted me. I
was so sweet to get that text. I was two
nights ago. That was two nights ago. Fuck last night
it was even worse. I waited till dawn because I
saw a roach the other night, no palmetto bug, a
water bug some we'll call it, I don't know, and
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in nice sink in the bathroom, and I was not amused. Okay,
what you do? So you walk in, you see it,
walk in. It's no freeze. It's massive. It's the size
of a young you know, pig. Okay, it's it's now.
Those are actually not that concerning because it's like those
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are the kind that coming from outside just like they
roll on in and not like a fucking whatever. I'm
not going to go down the roach conversation. But yeah,
still okay because I've I've had windows open and whatever
and normal they had scream for Chris. Yeah, I gave
it out of town and I was like Jesus fucking
Christ and I had to you know, when I'm looking
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for something to kill a bug with, Suddenly every bottle
I have is a concave on the bottom. Do you
know what I'm talking about? Like, I'm like, what how
about this? And then it's like concave or even has
like the tiniest bit where you know, you stamp it down.
So I'm I'm looking for stuff. I'm like, you know,
it's just disgusted and fear, and it's really fear of disgust.
(03:05):
It's like, you know, gonna slap to kill it or
try to kill it, and it's gonna scamper, you know,
you know yeah, and I bay I sort of have
to scream my way through it.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I have to like, ah, you know what I mean, like, yeah, yeah,
what did I try to do?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's always a risk to leave and come back exactly
to look for the instrument of death, and you know
in the interim it can escape to freedom. I mean
the one good thing I read. You know, those porcelain
they're often found in the tub or the sink because
those porcelain smooth surfaces. They can't crawl up. I forget
which one the American cockroach or the German cockroach or whatever.
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And the bathroom is so cleaned out right now, I
will say, uh, where there's you know, nothing in it
but grime. Yeah, no products other than you know, like
it's a cleared out but like permanent grout. I just whatever,
And so it has know where to hide in there.
So I knew it was safe in that way. Yeah,
so I went, I look for an instrument and I
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go in and it's just the only experience I want
to have is instant death, you know what I mean?
Of course, like it has to be swift. I don't
want to feel anything crunching.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And that's why my bug catcher you have to get
a little close to it. Certain bugs it's always hard
to kill, you know. It's like it's not the vacuum catcher, right. No,
I'll post this is almost like for children that are interested.
It's actually topology we're interested in insects, which I am.
I of course love observing the item the cause of
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tereir up close right right, Like it's a shocking I
didn't watch beheading videos as a teenager, but it's like
that sort of one of your most brilliant jokes of
all time when you talk about you talk about I
think you talk about in poog like your invention of
a book filled with the most horrifying things you're not
supposed to stare at so you can just stare at at.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It, like oh yeah, that's like from like like early days.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Book of Horror, which, by the way,
it exists, like meaning like Encyclopedia as a child, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
A child is sort of this like you know that
sort of don't stare mentality, like I know, no, it's
just about anything that is whatever. So it's it's yeah,
it's a very get a good look, very two thousand
and six joke. It's you know what I mean, like yeah,
but but it's it's sort of I don't know, it's
one of those like whatever, Celsius, I wish I'm literally
(05:36):
having a Lacroix in desperation to pretend.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
How does the Celsius hit now for you? Like, is
it like you take a couple of SIPs and you're
on a rocket ship. I wish I think nothing touches
me anymore. Yeah, I feel caffeine is so far.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Like it's like napping. After six espresso shots and a
Celsius last night, I was very aware of deeply unwill
I am person? I guess you come over, I'm gonna
It was like I was like, I don't know, you know,
you can get to that thing where you're like, I'm insane,
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but so is everyone, aren't I? Yeah? Yeah? And then
you neutralize the like whatever, I've slipped into a voice again,
why don't I do this? It's too much? Or will not?
I will not stay anchod in your voice? Say in
good in your voice. I mean yeah, I guess the
simple way to say it is up till five point thirty.
(06:31):
I'm right.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I mean that's all there is. That's really no, that's
a simple way to say. That sucks so hard.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And waiting for Don because I was I was just
afraid it turns and then you're just waiting for Don. No,
I mean actively waiting for Don because I was afraid
of seeing another palmetto bug. So I was like, oh,
don see, Like I can't sleep till dawn. I just
have a few of them being in the bedroom, calling
all over your face, into.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Your vagina, not in the bedroom mouth, and then back
to the vagina and kind of circling.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
That doesn't even offend me the most. I think it's
more like it's scampering across a limb somehow. If you
can get inside, it's done, I know. But yeah, I yes,
I used to. As a younger person, I identified the
fear of the bug as being related to orifice in
the sense of, Okay, if I were in a hazmat suit, right, yeah, well, frankly,
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if I could feel it scamper, then actually I wouldn't
be scamper across the hazmat even that's too much.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, last night I was on my deck, not to brag,
and there are spiders that gather, you know. It took
that certain hour of the little freaks. It's like eight o'clock.
They get horning and they come out and they start
doing their little dances. And it was like a thing
where I was really fascinated watching one again from the
safe distance, And then I was gonna go down underneath
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the deck for reasons that are personal. Turning off a
light and I almost walked directly into one.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You were saying the bug was going down for reasons
that were personal.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's like to know that I could have so easily
walked with Spider directly, Yeah, into that face level in
the hair.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, the hair is the other thing. I mean, the
hair getting as much hair it's like in the mop. Yeah,
and then it weasels in there, lays eggs overnight. I
can't go there, it can't go their place. Necklace.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, it's a pearl necklace, but instead of come or pearls,
it's spider.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Eggs yesterday, yesterday. This is a good.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, we're rocking. I've already said come and vagina at
ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And I've already stated that I'm on well deeply. Yeah,
this is great. I'm fine. I'm a peach. I think
it's really fun to say I'm a peach. I've been
saying it recently. What does that mean? Like and look
like I like I've been, but generally speaking, I'm a peach.
I mean, come on a pea. Yeah, you know, like
if I'm not a peach, I don't know who is, Well,
(09:03):
that's the truth. Like in certain certain circumstances, you know
what I mean, where I'm like, I'm like, you know whatever,
Like someone's doing something fucked up and I've been nothing
but a peach is what I'm when I'm talking about
that kind of shit. Yeah, where I'm like, no, you know,
it's like it's like me saying like my partner, you
know what I mean, being like being like about like
someone else, like being like I'm sorry, like I'm a peach. Yesterday,
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all launched by the by the roach, you know, I
start googling and then reading about how I need to
clear out brush any any brush, you know, anything like
that that's around, you know, like foliage like dead foliage
near your door might be luring them in or something.
And so I went out and started sweeping everything out.
I borrowed the neighbors lower. I don't know if you
ever used one. This came up last night because my
(10:04):
deck gets covered.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, somebody who's mentioning I should get a leaf blower
because it's like there's this tree over my deck. Horrible
landscape design to the previous owners. Again, I rent, but
these little hard balls fall Cascade constantly on the berries.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, so it's like get smashed.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Oh, you just sweep the deck every day or also
some livable Yeah, I just don't sweep it and don't
go out there.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
If I were you, i'd have the blower, you know,
charged and then just sitting next to a next to
the chair and you just grab it and you do. Like,
here's a question putting away the vacuum. Putting away the vacuum.
What is this right, it's just free in the middle
of the room for years, right, because I'm trying to
encourage regular use. Putting it in a closet, Actually I did.
(10:53):
I snaked the cord from the plug into the closet
and I put my vacuum in it. So it's charging
and that's the real estate. So it's charging in the closet. Okay,
that changed the game. Yeah, having them an appliance uncharged.
I got to get back on the Lima. It's been
a while. I ran for the Lima the last couple
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nights and it's all I had. Well, it's something. So
now I'm sitting on the couch. It's a boat. I
feel safe on the couch. It's a boat. I've never
seen like a fucking roach or something crawl up on it. Yeah,
it's more like I'm on the I'm on it, and
I see it scamper across the kitchen and so there
with my lima just stuck to my neck. But wait,
(11:35):
you're saying there's a new zip, which we did ask for,
but we're now putting formal asks in. I got a
knock in the instagram just one second, one second. Use
this time to order some Celsius. I think maybe I won't,
Maybe i'll This is concerning live unboxing. Oh my god,
(12:00):
is it something poog related?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I don't know what it is. Oh, it's good here.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Wait okay, oh, this is a personal thing. Never mind,
Oh okay, I'll have to ask about that later, I guess. Anyway,
Uh wait, I want to tell you that I took
a leaf blower and I blew with the cobwebs, and
I blew with the leaves. Now where is the question?
Basically sort of onto the yard space and then I
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I got locked out. That's always fun sort of the
way do you.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Do with that?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Even neighbor who gets you back in? Now? I call
the apartment like maintenance whatever, and they send out a
thing and charge you fifty bucks. And and then I
did it again this morning, not a This time I
was able to crawl through the window. Oh thank god,
that's fun. Actually I didn't crawl through the window. Actually,
I would have been an idiot to crawl through the window.
I was about to crawl through the window, and I
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just remembered. I just remembered as a memory the image
of earlier that I had as a future idea, which
was I'm about to crawl through this window. And now
I'm remembering. I didn't do. You see what I'm saying. Anyway,
you no say it again. I would have been a
fool because I was right next to the door, and
so I was about to crawl in the window, and
I realized, wait, I can reach the door off and
(13:20):
unlock it through it. I understand. Okay, I got it.
I got it. Couldn't you believe this?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
My neighbor dropped off eggs from her chickens. My god,
cockle chickens and freshmant neighbor chickens like they're living right
over next to you.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, bathing in the toxic fumes? Yeah? Did I breathe
in a Are they well sheltered? Don't know, I'm just
afraid of coyotes for them. Oh yeah, no, that's sweet.
I can imagine that it could be there could be trouble. Yeah,
I feel just so lost without without a caffeine to
drinking my side right now, knowing there's something missing. I
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need something.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I need to start doubling up the matchas the afternoon
matchas aren't hitting as hard I think it is. Is
it the summer months, the brutality of the heat I
need to do. And I've been having a little fun
playing with pistachio milk, and I think pistachio milk probably
loaded with guar gums and such.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You know, I did see the letters, and yeah, who cares.
I've never been afraid of them, and I really care.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I mean, there's worse things going on in a lot,
just like not taking I know, truly, we know this.
We have seven years left Max circling inside of so.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Enjoy the lectins, folks. I think it's less of thin
you keep making it lectin because we electin. Something else
is a chemical in the body or whatever related to
yea as we've discussed. I've been forcing out lictins.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Hey, remember we were going to focus around some products
some items, so we don't do pooh rapid fire because
there's no easy way to say this. I got to
be off here in twenty Yeah, so we're gonna do
a rapid fire. Here are some products. So I'm going
to start quickly with this because I think I've mentioned
this so many times it is almost annoying for the listener,
which is the dew Skin Instant Angel Lipid Rich moisturizer.
(15:06):
I love this comes to the metal tube, fabulous for travel.
It's just so hydrating, folks, and there's no fragrance in here.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's just feels so clean. It feels friends, think you
mean moisturizing.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Moisturizing right right, It's not a serum nation white cream
hydration or something. Yeah, And it's just simply it's just simple.
I can't explain it. It just feels we're under makeup, makeup
doesn't pill and putting it on the morning and putting
on that night.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I think it's my third tube, you know, you know,
I could.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Use a fourth. I actually also really liked their serrum. Okay,
I talked about them a lot, so but hey.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Well let's make sure to add them in the Instagram
because let's make sure you better be noting every brand
mentioned and begging, because that's what needs to be put
in the description, formally begging every week. I will not
be called upon to remember what I want.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And then this is an item that is the high
ticket item that I've paid for. Let's this is the
second bottle of it. This is the skin suiticles ce
Ferulus Vitamin C dropper, which I do think is real
and yes, high price.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Phone, But that smells like cured meat. I mean, I
mean not that one particular does. Yeah it does. Yeah,
it's not great. But dropping this on the by the way,
Ilia does stink without a doubt. What smells like? I
kept I kept almost figuring it out. It smells like
why did I figure it out? It's like like it
smells like something really specific, like the shavings at the
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bottom of like a of like a rabbits sew home
or something. It's something my face smells like a rabbit's trough.
I'm fucked because the issue was the drawing. I opened
the bottle and it smells fine. And this and that
we all know the Ilia skin serum. I'm use it.
If I continue to use it, I fabulous. I just
want to know if it's a bad badge and I
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don't want to bring it into credo and that makes
them smell it. It's not a bad batch, but stare
at me going.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Like people have been saying, what yeah, yeah, and then
I would like to lift up Josh Rosebrook. This daily
acid toner, which he's talked about, is kind of a
natural alternative to the walk to you know what I'm saying.
The P fifty by a logic, So if you're pregnant, nursing,
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or planned to nurse.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's alternative because what P fifty is not safe for.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
That phenol Biologica cherish has the phenol in it, which
I guess makes a gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
The fear of toxins, I guess when it comes.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
On the face, I go, come on, I'm not putting
it all over my body. I think toxins on the face.
If it's worth it, a little toxins, a few toxins
up there?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
What are we? You know, what are we going to do?
Live like monks?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I've completely neglected air quality. I've stopped turning on my
air purifier. Yeah, due to boredom and a fear of
that the filter is not cleaned and I cannot mobilize
to find out and to do that work.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
So I'm just kind of breathing in the toxic air. Yeah, toxin.
I don't know. Yeah, it's like I start really about toxin. Okay, great, great,
because if they can't have to do you don't really know,
do you? Yeah? Right right? Where are you with cleaning products?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Blue Land I've been using they sent, they sent I
think a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
There an ad branch on basics. I like the blue
Land stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
We have to completely eliminate the toxins right like that,
we can't be using chlorox. Okay, here's something I want
to understand. Well, somebody fucking explained to me the white
vinegar thing about cleaning with vinegar because guess what, your
house then smells like shit, which I don't love.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
But I saw this.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
This was an Instagram thing that I saw and I thought,
I'm gonna do that. My life's going to change. Which
is an all purpose home cleaner. That's Doctor Bronner's, like
peppermint or any Doctor Bronner is like just or simple,
just castile soap mixed with baking soda and you make
a paste and it like apparently will change your life
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
The way that you just said baking soda like like
it was like it wasn't the only thing that's ever
been recommended in every single article, slash, Instagram, post slash
everything is what is it astonishing? It just foams it up.
It's it's I mean, yeah, it's it's a class I
mean it's bullshit. Well, you do remember a couple months
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back when I did the whole thing through the baking soda,
along the grout, through the vinegar. I watched it bubble
up and nothing and nothing happened. Wow, I mean something happens.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I watched a little Instagram videos you woman scraping her
grout with this baking soda doctor Browno's combo, and it
looked so satisfying.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I have to say it got me. Yeah, but did
you see it before and after or did you just
see the the action taking it? I just saw her
sudging up. Can be total bullshit. I just saw the action,
you know. It was a neighbor asked me about a
light inside my Okay, it's worse than that. I'm just
trying to decide if there's any reason not to share
(20:08):
this so that I'm not I think it's fine, So
I'll say it in a flater I doubt it, then
we'll pull it. But literally, hey, I like, you know,
not even a neighbor, but someone like across the way,
kind of like like across the like good one hundred
feet away. Okay, but you know you see them regularly
because they're always outside. I'm outside. I locked myself out.
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It's just the third lockout story. I locked myself out,
headed to of the of the courtyard, essentially headed to
the dumpster. And so I had to say excuse me, okay,
and someone who I've never spoken to basically but is
across the way, I had to let me in, okay,
and he used it as an opportunity. Okay, so he
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lets me in. I keep it polite, friendly and keep
it moving like thanks. And then and then oh, actually
I meant to ask you something. I hear huh okay, God.
And then I hear, I see you do your your
yoga with with the ring light. You make your your videos.
I also make videos for I forgot that we said it,
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but you know, influencer videos or something like that. And
I'm looking to purchase get a good I see everyone
has these good you know lighting and they say they say,
shoot it on your iPhone and I shoot on my phone.
Looks like shit, I oh wow, I what do you do?
Did you start? It's so what's going on? So actually
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massively upsetting because I've been seeing you jerk off in
your house when you come is.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
It because sometimes you take longer?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
And I'm wondering is that? Yeah? Like actually don't really
process this because what was?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
So?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
What was? It reminded me of Gavin de Becker's book
The Gift of Fear, okay, and talking about these these
men like, you know, specific ways of communicating, Like it
was this example of this, you know, psychopath bullying his
way into a woman's home to hold her captive, et cetera.
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And him doing this whole thing like a series of
things that in the moment like were socialized almost not
to react to, and then one by one like now
they're in your apartment, you know, like like here, let
me help you with those groceries. That cat's not going
to feed it off like at a weird little sit
like outside of it, you would never anyway. It was
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so disturbing was that I was just taken with this.
I was didn't know how to respond because he's given
me something to respond about. That isn't the fact that
he's revealed that he can see me up in my
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second floor window doing my workouts. Okay I am and
so oh wow, I am beaten down, and I just go, yeah,
it's just a cheap ring light they sent me. I
don't know the brand. I just start talking about the
fucking ring light. Yeah, of course, what do you do?
What do you do? Instead of a reframe of the conversation,
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which is please don't look in my window, or you know,
I guess what it is is really like, yeah, he's
across the way, so what is he supposed to overt
his eyes? No, but here's what it is. If I've accidentally,
you know, I had a light on when I'm working
out and didn't fucking close my blinds.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Please don't comment on it. That was a mistake. Please
don't comment on it. Well, commenting on it is wild.
I see your peach ass illuminated by your ring light,
and I wanted to know.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, like, I I have my ring light going in
here literally as the light two like the vile assumption
that I'm making content of course, of course, and he
thinks that because I'm making content in there. It's as
if he's walked by one of those news studios in
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New York that you can see the window them shooting.
So it's like I'm already public facing in those moments.
But like I was using my ring light with these
late night workouts because I don't really have anything, and
I would hit it off the wall so it would
kind of be diffuse lighting. And then I would also
(24:37):
have my phone on the ground recording myself to review
my form after is you know, a big part of
the Tracy movement. But he did not see this was
not a tripod up in the window situation. And I
am not happy that I that I didn't have the
whatever to fucking say something. And I know, but what
(24:58):
are you even going to say? I understand, and other
than just laugh in the space and go Jesus like uh,
because that would be too like to be like to
joke or even be like even be like repulsed, like
introduces an intimacy, you know, it's totally And now I'm like,
do I you know, and then he starts a family.
(25:19):
He's got a family, okay, you know, there's a baby
that plays out in the courtyard whatever. They seem like
nice friendly people. Baby playing piano on the front lawn.
Baby plays incredible piano. And the joke is a piano
is not even not even small. It's an adult sized piano
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and your baby across the top.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
It's cute you brought out onto the front lawn so
everyone in the neighborhood can enjoy, and we think you're
not a murderer, because what kind of murder would have
a piano.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Playing a baby and a wife have a baby, and
a kind of murder would have a small you know
those miniature chairs that look like adult chairs, a full
adult that's inn but but there's specific ones that look
like an outside patio chair, like they just they look
like they're sort of classic, like you can buy the
supermarket molded plastic like whatever. Anyway, there's like a small
(26:13):
one sitting out there, and so now I'm kind of like,
you know one there's the self blame that I got
sloppy with my fucking blinds, because these blinds are fucked up,
and the thing that you use to turn them classic, well,
it's the.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Concept thing of neighbors when you're living, because sometimes I
hear my neighbors and I'm like, well, they can't hear me.
You just have to shut that part down. Yeah, look,
I hear, I go, I can hear her moaning.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But she can't.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
It's like you like you have.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
To And this is like the nineteen eighty seven word,
I think, and then you use it all the time
and it's just it's so like sensual and shocking. Oh fuck,
just stretching moaning. Uh and it sounds like yeah, eighties
(27:13):
pop song kind of yeah, kind of.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Moaning is is no longer in the culture the way
it used to be, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah. I mean, I guess it became a joke, right,
and how could it not? You know, of course any
version of it.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Whole jokes are real moaning and pain moaning pain is funny.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
So imagine if I got a brow lift? Is that
what a browlift is? So my mother, I'll include this
in the poog instagram my mother. My mom will often
send me photos, old photos of me, just close up
like she screamed. She's she zoomed and closed up, screen
grabbed it and she's like, gorgeous photo. I'm like, well,
it's from ten years ago, you know what I mean.
She sent me a photo of me, probably a little
(28:09):
under ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
You sent me a brow, yeah, from her, she sent me.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
She sent me a photo of myself maybe eight years ago,
seven years ago or something like that, and she goes,
great brows, No, and it's like back when I would
like pluck them a lot. And I was like, uh huh,
you bitch, I love you, but fuck it's like and
I was like, yeah, they're overplucked.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, and she was like, haha, overplucked, like funny word.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I'm like, yeah, no, yeah, you better try to backpedal, sweetheart,
because because.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
She because what if my eyebrows were like you better
back pedal? Overplucked? What a funny word is really says
a lot. You calling that a back pedal is genius
because it is, yeah, overplucked. Ha ha. Well it's also
with my current appearance, it's also overplucked. What a funny
word will suggest that it's a questioning of the concept
(29:03):
at all, right, right, right, right? Like can something can
and ibrow really be over plucked? Or is that called
being a woman daughter? Right? You know that kind of
thing in line? Yeah, yeah, over plucked.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And by the way I looked at the picture, I
go my brows do look fucking good, but those haven't
been my brows and so long.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, great brows now. And also was this here's a question,
was this? Was this like two days after a day
after you like, did you have dinner with her or something?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Oh my god, have you seen your parents a day before?
Because if so, no, oh no, that's really insulting. She's private.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
She saw you sitting on the table going, she's gone,
she's let go. Okay, it's really going moving in that direction.
And then thought, got to remind me, do I subtly
communicate this? Yeah? And then and then it's like, oh,
how did you come across that photo? Oh well, I
start stretching through the archives desperately for the daughter you
(30:03):
once had.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, well I stand by my current brows. Yeah, and
I see Heman at Garcia, one of the one of
the most lauded eyebrow artists, yes, in the world once
a year. So I'm pretty sure her hand at my
brow better than my twenty you know, twenty three year
old trembling tweezer. Mister tweezer hand terrorful, just checking out mine,
(30:30):
you know that, butter everyone talks about it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
No, what butter, the.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Golden hockey puck, the beer dev fucking whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It's like Anthony Burdin used to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh, oh, it's fifteen of butter. No, this is better
you put on bread.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
It's worth it. It's worth it.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I'm talking about the price. It's just like it's like cheese,
but it's butter. And listen, you want to entertain, this
is what you do. I put out last night hockey puck.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I will rideners know that I was invited.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, of course you were. This this thing of butter,
heaven cold butter with a tin of fish wife, very
fancy top shelf anchovies.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yes, and then those are not cheap if I recall
it correctly. No, they sent those their tin fish are
really good. Yeah, I love I think fish in a
mini bar. Oh yeah, quite well. I bought them at
a store near the hotel. Sent Cecilia because I believe
they were also in the in the mini bar, and
I think, let's good, get it cheaper at the store. No,
(31:32):
I ate them in the mini bar, decided I'll pick
more up when I came across from the store, and
they were basically as expensive, which was impressive that the
hotel wasn't marking up very They couldn't.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
They could have like a sesshwan spice tuna in the can,
all of it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's really love eating anyway fish.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And then a pepper, like a brind extra brind, spicy pepper.
You put that out baget people. You can put the
cold butter on the baggette with the anchovy.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Look at you entertaining. Unbelievable. I did some incredible work
last night. It was simple, and my life's changed. He
heard part of cocktail. Yes, listen to this, and we're like,
I'm going to do this weekly. I'm going to do
this weekly, and when to do this weekly?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
And when?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Oh you have no idea white knuckle grip the whole time.
This is it is it? So listen to this. You
know you have a party. It's overwhelming, right, oh no, people,
what do you do? You start? I bite them, I
have to wvite them if that, and then you spider
out into chaos. Right yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Seven people, tightly curated, tightly curated, group of seven.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I listen to this, one actual thing. I've never done
this in my life. So Jacqueline, I think if you
want to level up, Yeah, socially and asked the one
sort of tight anus of your what of your you know,
so so called sensual love of whatever the fuck any
of this is? Okay, yeah, it is the curation you're jacquelin.
(32:58):
I've never done a seven per and curated a pair
of teeth. This is more of a prediction because you
just said highly curated. It's not a level and they
said highly curated. Okay, And that's where I hear the
It's like this tight knob at the center of the
of the butter. It's like it's like once you get
to the door, you can relax now because you you've been.
(33:20):
I don't know you have to. It's the one part
I think that no even like I push against it,
saying open up the party, I'm not saying open it
up to a big thing, but just I just but
I don't know if someone's gonna if someone wants to
bring their one friend.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
No, no, no, no, nope, nope, nope, no friends.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I don't I don't believe what I'm saying. I don't
believe what I'm saying. It it's not it's not about
the one friend. I guess what it is is, you
know what it is it's like when you are one
of someone's curation.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Okay, it's like you feel like to be there, brutalized
into objectified.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah maybe, but I don't think it's that. It's more
like I feel the cruelty to the rest of the
world somehow, not that you should invite anyone else. Well
on me too.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Here's the thing, and this was very lady objective. That's
why super last minute. These people, some of them don't
even know each other. It was a fucking mixer. I'm
sitting down people going You two are two friends of
mine you've never met. Yeah, you're out of town, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah? And by the way, you add, oh, knock on
my door one second. We can wrap up, hang.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
On like.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Truly truly just like five minutes.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You don't have to you don't have to hide in
the other room. Okay, sorry, guys, we're wrapping up in
five Okay, so yeah, we heard you tell your guests,
but truly, truly, I'll be down in five ship. Listen
to this, bitch. Tighte curation is the only answer.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And here's why. Also, I haven't no, I know it is,
but I haven't identified because because then pissing me off
about it. I'm trying to I'm pissing me off. It's rude.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
It's not simple because it's because you're not inviting everyone.
And here's what thing it's not. Oh I don't love
this person. This person wouldn't be great. It's an experiment
and restriction. It's an experiment in darrow and call it experiment.
We can't do it all because here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Of course at all. That's true. That's not what I'm
responding to. Oh, that's true. That's not what I'm fucking
responding to. Okay, what anything else, Kate, It's something else.
It's I don't know. I'll mull on it over the week.
It's it has something to do with like this double
edged sort of being of being chosen. Yeah, and I
(35:52):
do that. You're in a in a tyrants rip, like
like you've been lifted over to make you feel like
to the warmth you could be dropped or something. It's
it's like it's like it's like, I understand, it's cruel
There's actions have like a threat underneath them. There's a
cruelty to the love. Yeah, because it's you know, it
(36:16):
was a chief I don't know. I'm not. It's like
it's like those fucking like Murder Mystery, like you know
you've all been invited here. I don't. I don't know.
I'm not I because I'm I don't know exactly, but
I'm you're hitting there's something inherently shouldn't you shouldn't I
(36:38):
think what it is? Okay, because of course, invite who
you want. Don't never be pressure. I've never invited a
single person in my home. Okay, so I'm not. Of course,
I'm not like someone who believes like open it up
or whatever. If a friend wants to bring a friend,
let them. None of this. I stand by. This isn't it.
It's I think it's just when I hear you say
(36:59):
highly curated.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Well, what's disgusting. That's why it's an absolutely human curation
and it's an unsavory suggestion curation of the human right. Well, no,
because here's what here's what it conjures thought leaders. I
have someone from all these different I've got someone from science,
We've got someone from agriculture, we have a movie star.
(37:22):
We have someone who's inventing the new kind of scillium
based leather that's gonna you know or my sillium. It's
going to transform entire our ecosystem. That's because it conjures
that which is very much in the air, and it's
like a prevalent way to organize people.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
And I wish it conjured that. That's why I'm talking,
you know what, where yours is worse. Okay, I wish
it conjured that yours is worse. You'rs just like I
don't like them, no nomate social judgment. It is like
it is like it is like no, no, they're like
(38:03):
fucking cool. Actually, like the thing is like you think
they wouldn't, but they're like fucking cool. That's like, should
I heard you say? Okay, okay, it was just like shit,
everyone says everyone's whatever, you know, but it's not even
like I'm not even saying it's not even like you
form hard judgments on people. I don't even know what
(38:23):
this is. I don't know what this is. It's and
I'm trying to figure out why when I am the
recipient of the of your absolute love in a real way,
but then also the love up yeah, but also this
sort of curational love where you would you would you know,
I think you know, place me at a dinner, right,
I'm trying to figure out why. Yeah, there's something in
(38:47):
it that feels unsafe.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
No, I understand. I think I think that's I don't
know the thing. Here's my new lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Is this got chosen means you could be unchosen?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, I think that's probably scary for sure, rotating the
highly curated for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So everyone, that's your plan you just said.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Everyone comes, Yeah, but at a different time, first class
and overwhelming. It's it's overwhelming as a host to have
ten people fit twenty people before you know it. You know, yeah,
seven seven people every other week for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Sure, I mean, yeah, it sounds it sounds good. I
mean maybe is it? This is it? I'm taking myself
out of it. I'm trying to is it. Am I
reading or feeling your anxiety and that it's not? Probably,
it's a like it's a this is a funny idea,
(39:50):
but like that, like I don't think it's true, but
it would be a funny idea, like oh, cocktails are cats?
You mean a you mean like an expedition in in
like assuaging for yet for another week like Kate Kate's
fears of I don't know what you know what I'm saying,
but like like fears that like, well, here's what it is.
(40:10):
Here's what I resent.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I resent the performance of ease that a lot of
people are forced to undergo when hosting or Hey, come over,
it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Meanwhile, you're in hell you're terrified.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, of course you spent fourteen K and these people
like and so I actually it soothes me to embrace
the fear and to go it's seven people, you better
fucking bring it.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, No, this is all great. I'm in a bad mood, okay,
and I just want to want to pick at your
bones like a vulture. I don't have.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Riticized No, there's something here that you are. You are
touching on something that is interesting and is there.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Like it's almost like if you're like like, yeah, I
don't know what I don't. I don't I can't quite
land and I don't need to because I'm not. I
don't know, man, I don't know. I'm sorry. I feel
like I'm just sort of being like abusive or something.
It's it's you love to be analyzed by me. I'll
(41:21):
say to the eavesdropper, you love. I love that.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
It's an honor to have you do the forensics on me,
one of our greatest minds.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
What a lash. It's true. The insights you've provided me
about myself, carry them dearly. All right, Well, there's no
easy way to say, trying to come over for for
for one of these apparteves and okay, you're a button,
and I just I can't wait because you always gathered
(41:52):
that it's a great group. You always it's always so
fun to go over your house. And it's just that
you know snowman does it anymore, And it's just I
can't wait to come over and just you know, talk
to someone I've never talked to you in times of
someone I have talked to. Frankly, there you go. Curation
is everything, cadence over content. It is cadence over content
(42:13):
at all costs. Great. Sorry about the mood.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I hope you get your Celsius. Your mood's fine. Did
you paint your wall black or has it been painted
black like.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
That for a long time? Maybe this whole time? Okay,
you got it. Okay, I love you, I love you.
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