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I could go all night with you two. Six Feet Under. To see a twin without their twin… the vanity suddenly looked beautiful. Good girl syndrome and defending The Ritz like she built it. Don’t blow my brother! National Chair Day? Priceless.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kate er Lance, I'm Jacqueline Novak.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
And this is poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between
two obsessive fress.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Two untamable intellects. This is our hobby, This is our hell.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
This is our naked desire for free products. This is poog.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Oh, we went on tour. We sold merch, and we
even did shows. Here are some clips from those shows.
Please enjoy it. And yeah, merch is available online at
poog live dot com.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
When lost and Found works out, Oh, you're drest sturing
to me, you could weep for symptoms. Listen to this.
We've been carrying on.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Needless to say, we have identical fack pass identic.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I have a role, I have a roll. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
The point is nineteen eighty nine, sort of. I was
a woman of the nineties.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's like a it's broken. I'm attached to it. Okay,
point is I have his coat that I love.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I take off the coat. I put it in the
overhead land in San Francisco. Here we are, I'll in
the car. Yeah, I loved it. In the car, I
go my jacket. I left my jacket.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
And by the way, I really like this jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, it's a it's truly, and I'd even spend a
couple days going, god.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I love my tour jacket. I don't have to take
a pro I can just put there.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
My pockets are in the mirror, going fuck, okay, like
I loved this jacket.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Left it above, I start lacerating.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Mynd yeah, left and right, anything above below.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Last week I was like, well, this is what happens,
you know, we lose things and yeah, and it.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Was sort of like oh god, like because it was like, okay,
like whatever's been going on until now, this is now
the reality we're living in, right, and Kate like really
goes into instant mourning, like dramatization, you know what I mean,
like telling the dramatic story of like of.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Course, like you know, of course, of course I lost it.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I decide to do the thing, and that is why,
exactly why I would lose the coat in this way.
And it's to me, it's it's it's in the very
moments we could be taking action to rectify the scenario.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I so we got to and by the way, moments
before truly I haven't told you this, but moments before
I realized.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I lost the jacket. I was like, I'm so lucky
here in San Francisco. It's a beautiful day. See.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Then every day of health is a gift, which was
the fucking truth.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
And I was like, and to have health, to be
here with my friend, to be doing this, you know,
meeting these people.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I'm my jacket right, and it just like it just
immediately and then and then I was, I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
And then you were Then you turned sour.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
And I was like, you know what, fucktor. Yeah. I
was like, well I should I should know. I'm over work,
no wonder, I'm not, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, I go I go into it and then get
to the hotel, fucking amazing room at the proper they
I go there. Oh it's a sweet And I texted you.
I was like, room's great. I was like my jacket
and you said something beautiful. I was like, still sick
over my jacket though.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
And you started with it on. You don't understand, you
don't understand what this jacket is. I got just made
in New York. They had a tiny bit of fabric
left just enough to fit my frame, okay, and they
carved it. They carved it for me, and it was
the perfect Jaggers the only jacket.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I admired store maybe the store owner at number seven.
Can you imagine what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay, And I lose things all the time and I
get them back all the time. Okay, this is the truth.
You needn't freak out. The tide takes them out, and
the tide delivers them. Don't go diving into the surf
and let the undertoe take you away, you know, and
sit there with an open palm. I knew someone who
once lost a contact lens in the ocean. No, they
took a deep breath, they found it.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I like, there it is.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
But I was in the room, you know, blessings all around,
and I was like, yeah, I texted you, do you
understand like it was made It was like made for me.
It's like the most money you've ever spun in the jacket.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
And I'm like, I understand, I understand.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
And then you said, you said, don't write eulogies.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
When you could be saving lives, meaning the life of
the jacket, because she's writing her the eulogy. And I'm like,
they took it off the plane and they put it
in a box.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
I know, like I could not believe that.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
And then let's just say ADULTA lost file was filed,
A lost claim was filed.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Picture of me with the jacket, ADULTA picture of me
in my jacket.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
When you opt, when you opt ad photo evidence through
a medium that's like a message box, and then you
see a little thing, you're like, wait, can I can
I add an image? And I always take the opportunity.
You know, here we go and.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I whatever filed it.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'll just say this went to the airport the next
day because we were flying out.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
It was convenient. They go Delta lost and found that's downstairs.
I go down there, I go, Hi, I stirt. I
was on a flight yesterday from Seattle to San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
There was just a tiny bit of fabric and they
carved it from my body.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I left my jacket, a very important jacket to me.
He goes, what's to look like? He disappears. Forty seconds
later he comes out with my jacket and I and
I said, I go and this is the Delta promise.
I said that to him, almost no reaction.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Oh and we had we've had a couple of those.
We've tried to land. The brand acknowledgment I feel like,
but I've missed you know what I mean? Oh, no,
I know what it was. You were like, you were like,
you know, I knew AMEX was special with their incredible
you know, you were like, I knew AMX was special.
Ever since that incredible ad, you know, there's there's a
grandmother's hands priceless right.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Oh yeah, you know because because not Amex, yeah, master card. No,
because Jacqueline has been booking the hotel rooms with her
AMEX and I Zello her rather isael her.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Then she also gets one hundred dollars in her room.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
She gets, to be clear, because I booked the room,
I get one hundred dollars food credit that I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Get over in her That's four breakfasts. That's huge, okay,
across two people's And there was.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
A moment where you know, I'm the cheap one. I'm
the cheap one. But Jacqueline was like, we're going, you know,
the Rits whatever. And by the way, I never stayd a.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Ritz And I told her a thousand times, I go,
look this Rits it's not super expensive because you can
kind of tell if you kind of look at it,
it's not It's not like the brand new one.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It's sort of it's not a New York City Rits,
you know, it's not.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
It's fine, okay, and I go, they'll have twenty four
hour dining, the service will be good, you know, the
whole thing. But don't get this idea in your head
that this is going to be meeked you at the
Ritz or whatever, you know, like, and so she just
keeps saying this thing, the Rits, like like my first Rits.
And I'm like, well, you recall from three weeks ago
when you said you know, nothing over three seventy five

(06:46):
and I said, well, yes, there's the Rits you know,
at that at that cost, and there's this other one
that's costing this other one. They're all kind of equal.
And I think we should go.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
For the twenty four every twenty four hour plus the
twenty you know, plus the the.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
You text me really like.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
It is not.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Do not get in your head that this is oh,
let's see how the Ritz pays off? Right, totally, No, No,
she couldn't get it out of her head. We're approaching
my first Rits, okay, And I'm like my bride, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
And then and so to be and also you had
earlier on tech. When we were booking, you were like this,
I'm gonna spend like a little more to get like
a little bit of a nicer room.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Do you want this one? Of course, I was like,
I'll take the chamber one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
And then but then you said, maybe we'll get an upgrade.
We get to the desk, you get an upgrade, and
I get an upgrade.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
So I'm at the room that you initially booked and
you're a room higher. We split off.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
We go to our rooms and I went in and
I opened the door and I was like totally. I
was like, honestly, i'd expect more from a Rits, right, but.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
But but I was fine. I want to be clear.
I was actually fine. I to open it and go,
you know, but I just was I was kind of
you were like.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Send me pictures, You're like, it was hell. I had
to just make peace with myself, like she's she cannot
she will not shake this. I cannot lower the expectation.
It's appropriate. I'm sending her text messages. No, it was
really sad because my lover was with me. Okay, it
was like, well he went up to you, you know,
up at the of my room, okay. And and I'm
like only seeing it through your eyes, the potential of

(08:11):
your so I going like, I'm praying, you know what
I mean, I'm praying that there's something. And I go
in and I just sort of like not for me,
Like I'm good with the room. I'm oh okay. And
he's like, oh, you're just like it's pretty wild, you're
pretty like used to staying in the ritz. And I'm
like no, no, like I'm I just know this is
not gonna dazzle Kate, Like, no, no, there's not gonna
be enough for her.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know it's not I wasn't upset, but I feel profoundly.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
But then she sends me these photos like show me
what your room's like, okay, and and the photos the
photos are the kind of photos that they're forensic in
a way that I know when I see them, they've
already been sent to her mother, they've been sent to
a few people, kind of like they're unloving there there's
flash flash in a hotel room. It's like the thing

(08:56):
you have to ignore on like trip Advisor. You cannot
look at them as flash photography hotel room. You'll be
like this is hell. I had studied these photos. I
even sent you again more my version forensics about our
choosing hotel in the first place. I sent you the
screen grab of me sending you a picture of what
our room, your room would look like.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
It was accurate real lives yet.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
So I'm just like starting to defend the rits, like
I've built it. There's a palace for caper lamb and
I was.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
But so it was fine.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
But then eventually so we went did a show how
to lay dinner. We're getting back to the hotel, and
I said, can I see your room?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
And it wasn't pre dinner, it.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Was after it was And then went into the room
and I was like, now this is a room. No,
but I'll just say this, and there's this inching there's
a patina on like someone else's experience where you're like
it's better, you know, like I went in, or I
was like you had also done something remarkable.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
You had like dimmed there wasn't even dim.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
You come in dark were your light's not off? And
you came in, which is a very interesting.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I don't remember the hotel. Wait, wait, you had dim
them or turned down service had dim them?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
No, no, no, I walked into a dark hotel room.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
No, I was with you.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Boom what wait, what do you mean the hotel room
was dark?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
It was dimly lit. When we walked in to look
at your room, the light it was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
No, no, no, Kate, k k k k. When I
went when I entered my room for the last.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Time, the first it was daylight.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Was day dark.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
It was daylight. It was daylight. It one daylight. It
was daylight. Are you sure positive.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Because I remember, do you remember like it was.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Teting you about the room? Oh, my god, I don't
think it was I think it was daylight. It was
a little dark.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
It was daylight.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
You're right here.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
We arrived in the evening. I think flight landed. It
was heaven.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
It was not daylight.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
So it's I recalled darkness and I go in and
so each there's two lamps by the bed, so I
turn it on a.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Little by the way.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
It was incredible because no one else knows. But you're
exactly correct. At level and everything aboard.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
The switch was just.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Constantly transported to Philadelphia. That's all it takes. Seeing you there.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I went back you I think went in there like.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did. I did.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
You were like you were like for flash, like a psychopath.
You were like you were like me really blessed. Yeah,
and so I'm just sort of like lying there sad.
I'm trying to tell myself, like you know, I started like,
it's just you know, it's it's tough, and I'm like
the forensics. I told you, I told you you're like,
I'm not blaming you, but I just feel this kind
of like responsibility.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
And you and I said to you, you feel this
responsibility for me.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
I'm telling you right now, I'm not unhappy. I'm not disappointed.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I don't feel at all like you like you let
us a straight And then I said, do you have
a bathrobe and slippers?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Because I, oh, that's that was what I said. On
the car ride over.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I said, hey, whatever, it's gonna be fine. All I
know is it's a Ritch. There's gonna be a bathrobe,
and ultimately I'm excited for that. I want to take
a bat what no, right, you lay down this thing.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I go to stop with this this rich stuff. I
told you. The reason the only reason this is the
one Ritch we're staying at is because it's cheaper than
the other rits. Because it's they know it's not you know,
brand new or whatever. Okay, and so she'll have a
robe and slippers. She's telling me now about rid the standards,
and I go, I can't guarantee that, kid, Like I
just I can't guarantee that, Yeah, it will Okay. I

(12:26):
get to the room, I'm like, okay, like I spot,
I check. I thank god there's a robe. I do
think I clocked that there weren't any slippers, and I
was like, maybe she won't notice, you know, yeah, any
You're like, where's the robe, Like it's in the bathroom.
You're like it's not you know. You're like where I
trust you'll find yours?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, you said, I trust you'll find it. And I
was like, she's laying boundaries. That's fine because I because I'm.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Made multiple questions, you know, like we're in the bathroom.
It's like, but but I think it'll be easier for
you to look.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I'll say one thing too, My eye did. I'll say
this was maybe my mate when I went into the room.
This is what caught my eye and I went, I
don't like that was that you know when people you
got the complimentary water, right, this was like Nestley. This
was like the scary Nesley water with like ritz logan,

(13:14):
and they had made their own label and I went
do it fell It was like a slap in the face.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
But that's that's nineties luxury. Okay, they figured it out
before the others did. Okay, so no, they don't have
the Saratoga that they you know, they don't have the But.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
It was the kind of that's so thin that do
you know what I mean, where it's like it just
it's almost like one of the squirt things, like it's
so malleable. It's like you just know, sun hits that
and the and it fuses the plastic straight through.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, but then okay, but just quickly we went to
your room after the meal. It was late night. I
walked at you had that beautiful dimming work. Went in
this was this was a key difference. You had thought
to open your curtains so you have the glow of
the city, which is, you know, deeply romantic and beautiful.
I see that dim lamps. I go, very well done.
The room's layouts identical, I would say. Went into the bathroom.

(14:06):
The chief difference. She had a tub I didn't. I
swallowed that when I decided to take a cheaper room, okay,
but I.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I real moment was you go, well, tub okay, and
I go yeah, okay. And then because it's my one
of my big things, I'll check for you know, like
I'll pay for a tub. Right. Sometimes the cheaper room
will have a tub. Sometimes there'll be a room where
you can get a queen bed in a tub or
a king bed no tub, and.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Take the tub and run, take the tub and run.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
That's what you gotta ask. Sometimes you get a call
and you.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Got to ask, Yeah, high floor tub away from the elevator,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
So you come in and you're I see the eyes
the eyes of the other ring of my room.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
One thing that also is funny is that we have
identical toiletry bags, which we arrived at separately.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I think I'm unlikely.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
The point is I recommended it, but.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I saw no. But remember I told you no, no,
I got it from what's her name?

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I recommended it. You might have ignored it again, Okay, okay,
I've been on that same tortry bag for multiple years
because I got one one year following year, I got
it again.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
It's five years deep. I can tell you what it's called.
But I supped it.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's a weird thing with an identical object. That's my
tortry bag. But the difference is of yours.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Right, Oh and interesting, tell them what happened.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Well, I looked at it and I saw something look
like look high quality. Well I saw my little high
quality hardshell bright color.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
They go, what was that?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
And I was like, did you pay for that?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
You know, like, did you get that for me to
it was my EpiPen?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I was like pawing at it through the plastic of
the torture bag.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
I was like, this is what is that?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
And I thought it was anyway, But but your bathroom,
your bathroom just looked and you're.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
You go the vanity, Okay, you go to that's a
vanity or something. I mean, this is just you just go.
This is just completely different than when I'm experiencing forty
dollars below you know, and whatever. And and then you go,
I mean, let me show you my vanity. Okay. Then
you pull out your phone and it's the forensic photos
are twelve you know what I mean. We and it

(16:12):
was the same.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, yeah, that there's always screaming, yeah, no, I went
back to my room with with new sense of responsibility. Yeah,
I went in with virgin eyes and I immediately did
the dimming technique. I opened the curtains, I went all right.
I was like, there's some dimmers better on your I

(16:33):
still had a.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Little of that, but it was a huge saw.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
The vanity suddenly looked beautiful, but earlier had looked like shit.
Didn't look like shit. But I just I was unmoved.
Suddenly it took on this new There was a glow.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Was there the glow of the friend okay, like I
want there to be okay?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
It was the.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Glow of like Jacqueline like up is upstairs. I was downstairs,
cave it it fell like upstairs.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
It's funny when the lower rooms.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I realized, you really do feel there's something about when
they're like, and you're Kate, you're on you know, fifteen,
and Jacqueline you're on nineteen. You're kind of like, bitch, Yeah,
it feels like it's gonna be better.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, that's not how it works. Crazy, you know, So
what are we talking about? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Oh, the glow, the glow like were you kind of
picturing me? I want you to be. So I'm just
gonna say, yeah, you're kind of picturing me in that
very same vanity but like kind of like enjoying it
and seeing it as beautiful. Yeah, and you're like, I
too can bring the elegance of Jacqueline's eye, yeah to
his vanity. I don't know, like sometimes you need to

(17:37):
see I mean so many things all this. Can you
remember other times you've seen a friend that like you
just inherently thought, you know, was I don't know, chic, Yeah,
something you see them use something that otherwise you were
like whatever, but then you were like oh, and then
you start sort of like I don't know, like of
course I hear something and you're like.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I tried to hold my pen like the most beautiful
girl in my high school.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, I was like I'm gonna write, I'm gonna write that,
I'm gonna hold my pen.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Like yeah, And it was kind of the it was
like a way to.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Like, you know, consume and enter.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I tried to someone's handwriting once. This was like I
tried to copy my friend's handwriting once, like like I'm
gonna do handwriting like herl like steering at her page,
staring at her page, right, just trying to. Then I
looked down and I had written her name.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh wow, that's actually scary.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
I know.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I think we can find a holiday and every month.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Don't isn't there one create don't buy?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Doesn't the government have to supply one holiday a month?
Thinguring what's eastern?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
You know what I find? You know what I find feeble?
You know what I find utterly feeble, and I know
you will too. And they're like, it's National Pie Day
and it's like it's not you know what I mean,
Like I hate this.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
This is interesting because I think this was around like
two thousand and seventeen.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I was okay, maybe early, no, maybe early.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I wanted to see if we say, they.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Were going hard with the national and it was like
it's National chair Day, like truly it was like, yeah,
National PI Day, It's National Call your Nephew Day like
they were doing.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
And it fe also the like midnight you know, after
National Siblings Day or something.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Right, I'm out here a National Only Child's Day. Ever,
how many only children in the house? How many onlies.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Should have known? Interesting?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Let me feel this out. How many babies?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
What it okays?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
How many?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I want to the middle.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Again, start again, start again. Wait wait wait wait, So
the biggest was what how many onlies? How many babies?
How many middles?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Wait a second, I know many oldest?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh wait, that's funny, that's funny. I ignore.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I left them out right. I was trying to do
the math.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's weird.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Does not have anything like is there this is how
did we miss a group?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Did we miss a group? Because the way I missed
oldest was almost like, is there.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Is there any correlation between?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
This is like a math question I think might be obvious. Yes,
is there any correlation between the median age in the room?
Do you know what I'm trying to say, like, is
there any.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I don't think that. I think every child born as
long as the policy nationally wasn't you know what I mean?
In place about how many kids you get out? I
think every child? And let's actually play this out. A
given person, right.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
A given person? Yeah, I'm making right?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, given person? Do they have no? Wait? Seriously though,
before am I missing a category? How many twins? Well
I'm missing something?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Stand any any anyone? Is anyone here with their twin? Okay?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Hold on the twins? Stand now? Okay? Absolute silence in
the room. Is there? Are you speak now? If you
are part of a twin group that is in the room,
you're with your twin. Okay, we've got one, I think
one pair? All right? Now hold all right now, no
one move. I want to see the twins step up,

(21:32):
I mean stand up.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Oh my god. Okay, names David and Matt. Okay, this
is huge.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Now one stood first? And I think that says a lot.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
I think that's I think you tell me, am I wrong?
Did Matt stand first?

Speaker 7 (21:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
David? Right?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Who stood first?

Speaker 1 (22:01):
David? If you know who is who? How many people
here are friends with Matt and David? Okay?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Interesting David and Matt? You almost asked? Are you the
same age? And I'm not kidding?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Who was born?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (22:17):
David? Wait? Sorry, who's in the white shirt?

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Should we just bring them up?

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, bring them up if you want to mine's We'll
just bring.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Them David and Matt.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
David and Matt twins. You don't actually we just yeah,
come to the land to the paper.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Lance finger telling you like you think you're headed to
the stage, then caper Lance No, sorry, I'm just demonstrating.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
You say, somebody order twins.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, get dead center and face them for a second.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Now here's a weird Where are you guys from?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Uh New York identity kids?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah? Real twins, real twins. Now you hear that.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I've never heard that, like a sound be produced by
a crowd like that. Feels like that was like sports
or politics like that was the only Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Wait, now hold on, Now that's because not climate. Friends,
are just two babies born and made in close proximity,
probably in our minds.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Right, there's siblings are the same case is huge?

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, sharing a womb not enough? Right?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Are there other siblings in the family? Your brother he
by the way, let's just take a minute. Where is he.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
With his wife and kid in suburbs?

Speaker 3 (23:50):
So typical? Yeah? Okay, okay, so much was coming out.
By the way, I want to do an hour on
this because.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I need you here. I can sort of, I mean,
Kate need to be dead center, but I just.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Want to say this is interesting and there's something psychological
going on.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I have such an allegiance with you. Not that I
don't like Matt, but something's happening. Something's happened to me, and.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Actually David's mine. Okay, I know, like I know nothing
of Matt, like you know what I mean, it's kind
of interesting who was born first? Technically I was interesting.
I Okay, Now that doesn't mean okay, here's a question. Sorry,
I'm so excited I could barely as if I've never

(24:36):
met a twin, Kate, have you ever met a twin?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I'm searching the archives and you're eclipsing any other previous twins.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Okay, okay, this is actually huge in terms of sort
of the nature of consciousness, et cetera. Let's get real
once and for all. And actually, no, I'm not gonna
put it all on you. You're not.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Okay, by the way, I'm also I'm only you experienced.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Each other's pain from afar give me, give me the
give this. And if you listen to Poog, you know
you're tapped in.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
By the way, I just want to take a minute
to acknowledge the sanctity of twins being hags being at
the show together.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
This is absolutely this is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
This is odd the way, this is major twin propaganda
because imagine, because I've actually never been so in touch
with the absolute holiness that I will care with me forever.
A only child has its own stuff, but even siblings
in the room. I imagine what it's like to be
a twin though, because imagine, imagine there's there's imagine two
twins laughing.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, I just the first moment, Well, I guess it
is that first moment. I guess I was gonna say,
what's the first moment? That is twins? Because you're kind
of shuttled around together?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Most likely unless the parents are doing an experiment, which
some that okay, on some level, the parent of a
of an identical twin set, right, are doing an experiment? Right,
I mean like they can't help it. What happens if
I name one of them David and one of them

(26:12):
that's the first variable?

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Okay, okay, quick, obviously this is maybe an obvious Oh
what are you the census?

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Okay, but actually I don't think this is census related.
Who gays? Okay? Listen, what is going on with a sense?

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Fields of interest? All right?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Work similar? I'm seeing difference? Yeah, okay, different? What's your field?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I'm a psychologist? Okay, hold on now, wait now, hold on,
Not that one is defined by a career. Okay, So
your answer might be I am a sensitive okay, I
am a visionary. I just it doesn't have to be
career immediately.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
I'm David, I know, but look at Look at matt sleeves.
I'm sorry, this is not no, you are you are?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Look at David's sleeves. Look at Matt's sleeves. I'm sorry,
hold them up. There a small differences, right, this is interesting.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, I didn't even.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, okay, okay, okay, let's let let's let okay. Career.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, I'm a civil rights lawyer.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Okay. Well, now I had I couldn't go hard enough.
I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
No, I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
No, imagine the donisations imagine imagine these two a dinner.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Okay, I am no dude.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
By the way, by the way, this is this is
your mother, This is your mother. No, it's it's imagine.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
And I'm sorry, Kate, are you registering on these two
because I am okay, I'm registering on these two A
humility okay, and a grace and a grace Okay?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
That actually these two are I mean, this is like unreal.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, I mean is everyone okay? Is it just mean, Kate?
Or are you losing your minds? For these two.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I know, look, I'm not dad, but no, there's your sperm.
I'm literally I mean there's.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
A humility in their in their posture. They're comfortable being
both one and also the way.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, and I didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Mean one and two, one and two. I meant one
and two. You know what I'm saying, Like there's something?
All right, tell us everything it was? Yeah, no question?
What helped me? All right? All right, here's the question.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I'm not amplifying you.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
You make a great point. Wait are you my first question?
Do you regret coming up?

Speaker 6 (29:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Good?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
No, wait, I feel like they need to see your
face a little bit.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
They do, they do, They're seeing how gorgeous to make
sure everyone can say.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Okay, not to make it about poog.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Oh, great, great idea. I love this. It didn't even
occur to me to have myself reflect like reflected back.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Through that integrate into the story. Okay, who Yeah, how'd pooks?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Who?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
How to enter?

Speaker 5 (29:39):
I'm gonna say I recommend it.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Okay. I had a feeling, and maybe that's just because
I'm in close physical proximity.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
I'm willing to give David the credit for discovery.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I think.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Okay, interesting subtext there, Okay.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Okay, resisting the tempatient to find the text. Huh wait
what what I was just saying, I'm resisting the temptation
to go into my phone and find.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
That totally record as a lawyer, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh
you're gonna get subpoenas by your twin before now.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Civil rights lawyer, though, are you tell us everything?

Speaker 3 (30:17):
I know?

Speaker 5 (30:17):
There's no time, no time, it's a recession proof business.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Genius genius line, undeniable do.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
You say on the phone? Wait? Question?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Okay, okay, So back to pook. Any products that or
anything you have tried as a twin are separately.

Speaker 8 (30:40):
Uh, not so far.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
But no, no, that is good to hear it.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
We're not merely just strate just shoved into two sets
of TITSA okay, that's good to hear. They're there for
the notions alone, anything by you.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
I used some storm stuff just today.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Sounds like business is doing.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Over here. Now, I will say the complexions on both perfection.
So I think we've answered the questions.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
It's like the Dove ads, but for Barbara Sturm, it's
like civil rights lawyer, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, it could be a huge campaign.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Now what about one of you love and I would
I would consider you. Maybe not, it's a risk. But
do you remember what how you may have sort of
evangelized Poog in your recommendation if we go in.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
That narrative, how I I'm sure. I just well, I
think because we have seen both of your live shows,
you know, I think all was and would when we
still get on your knees.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
This is true.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
We walked in not knowing that the other was going
to be there, and ran into each other entering the phone.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I forgot about that. I forgotten about get on your knees.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
We have to walk about.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
It brings twins together who weren't even together.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
This is huge, Okay, I need the details of that.
Was that like you were settling into your seat and
you're like, I.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Think we were like literally, I think I think it was.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
I think we were like literally walking down the aisle
finding our seats and like turn yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Like twenty two F twenty two think of the waterbird
next F.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
But yeah, it's one of those yeah, you say it
into the thing.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
What do you do when you see your twin unexpectedly.

Speaker 9 (32:44):
Say hi?

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Totally? Yeah? All right, well this is honestly honestly, but I.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Mean we're not we have to like let you sit again,
but like I could go all night with you too.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
So and by the way, by the way, are there
any more ident are there?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Stand?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
If you're an identical twin or regular and your twin
is not here, but you are here as a twin.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
All right, that's so should we let them go?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
And then no, I just want I kind of want
the twins to be able to see you, like like like,
stand up if you're a twin. Also just curious numbers,
come here, twins stand, twin stands?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Whoa So we've got solo twins and I want to
see them all. Bring them down?

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Okay, sure, bring them down if you're a twin.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
If you're a twin, come.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
On down, twins down and you you you gotta stay as.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
The book they the bookend.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, you're the anger the twins the other twins.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Who get My god, look at these freaks. To see
a twin without their twins is water.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
No tws growing to mine?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Okay, this is huge. You know what everyone get in?
You know what compelling getting getting get in tight tight,
keep it moving, teaking like sardines. Now this is compelling
because they are as a group, okay, as individuals used
to being grouped right, right, right, but not individually right.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, So there's.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Something new here or this has happened to you before.
You've been called out sort of as join the other twins. Now,
who of this group thinks they're the better twin? Go
for it? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:42):
No, wait, balcony balcony twins, balcony twins?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
All right, get in getting two rows? Two rows? Why
is it two rows?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
But look, but look it's interesting, David than that the
only twins that came together.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So the only one who came together is identical. No
one else has an identical win?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Oh identicals? How many identicals? Identical?

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Interesting?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Hold on, and they're both the fourth in the two
are identical.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
One, two, three, four? Now you two get to the center.
I want to see something here. You too, identicals, but
not with each other, but identical in another way by
being the only identical solo.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
By the way, is it gorgeous? Identical twin mate?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Somebody finally said it?

Speaker 8 (35:38):
Now?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Is it wrong? I wonder?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Is a gay identical twin? And who are both?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:49):
No, I'm telling you hands high. Yeah, you're gay? Your
twins not?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
No, she wasn't asking who both are?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
You know?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
I'm also just curious old of them?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, no, I think it was an individual.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Okay, I don't know what I was asking you. Yeah,
you spoke.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I just want to be clear. My brother who's not here? Right,
that's what's going on.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
You're not there.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
I am welcome, welcome.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Okay. How many are you single? I'm not not single?
Who can blame? Are you gay? Though?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I'm also is your.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
And not single?

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Anyway? We look at all? I love you? Just to say,
are you? Is your is your partner here?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Sorry? Okay? Did yours?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
That's what I'm talking about it?

Speaker 9 (36:40):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (36:40):
So wait are you like you've never heard the podcast? Okay?
You cheer?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
My sisters of twins, imagine being born into that.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
I forgot you were twins for a second. I got yeah,
I know. By the way, I'm not so you you're
you're identical twins?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, okay, something's happening.

Speaker 10 (37:03):
We were toldal you're fraternal, and then we took a
twenty three me test like when we were twenty one,
and we found out we're identical. Do you want to
do you want to know the science?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
We want to tell us, Yeah, tell us tell everyone everything,
and we also want to pose a few questions and
then I'll hand it over. Okay, so I thought you
were a fraternal because because exactly fraternal twins. I never
finished here. So fraternal twins.

Speaker 10 (37:33):
Fraternal twins, two sacks, placenta, identical twins, one sack.

Speaker 8 (37:38):
O boy, so they so they.

Speaker 10 (37:41):
So they look at the placenta to determine. But percent
of the time, all identical twins can be in two sacks,
is what I found out.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Okay, I'm doing that animated version. I'm trying to animate
what you're saying. And then you found out keep going.

Speaker 10 (37:59):
Yeah, so we were in two sacks, but we ended
up being identical.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, this is a neutero double sacks. Yeah. So cool.
So and you you.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
That this is actually so you can hold yourselves quite
special because is there a percentage of identical twins that
end up in separate sacks? Okay, so a quarter? But
still I think you can go like we had boundaries
from the start.

Speaker 10 (38:29):
Yeah, it's like there's one membrane, but there you were
still Yeah, there's like a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
It gets a little black down there, Like dating as
a twin?

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Have you ever dated another twin?

Speaker 7 (38:41):
No?

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Do you think that ultimately maybe you can.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Only relyconnect with someone if they're a twin.

Speaker 10 (38:46):
Yeah, I don't know if I would immediately trust that
if I was dating someone else who's a twin, it's
like better if it's easier if it's just one of
you that's a twin.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
You know, wait a section to bring up trust.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I don't even understand trust.

Speaker 10 (38:59):
Explain wait, well, like to marry a twin, it's difficult,
right because like there's always the question which is like switch, sorry.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I guess switch. There's always a question of.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
It's like it's like whose person are you? Really?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Are you? Like?

Speaker 8 (39:15):
Am I elite?

Speaker 10 (39:15):
Loyal to my twin or my girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Somebody finally said it okay.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
So I'm like, yeah, well yeah, dude, for sure?

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah whoa Do you ever feel like, no, you're just.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Sor I'm just going I'm ever won't work? You know
when you go, like it's like you open one present,
you go and then you see always other friends, Like
there's this feelings like there's such depth here that we
could go and they're tall, they have these stories, they
each have a comment like it's it's it's overwhelming, Like.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I think we might have to do like a Twins
season of pool. Yeah, because this and by the way,
the two o's the individual sacks much like creative collaboration, right,
kind of a twinning and sometimes I look at you
and I go, you know, and so and then the
individual sack and then collaboration is the sack bumping kind

(40:08):
of bumping, right.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, I mean, and of course you know one sack
the mother. I mean, that's the thing, right, there's a
sack within a sack within a sack. Right, there's kind
of a just because I'm curious, has it?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
What was your name? Twin? Is anyone else related to ant?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Like for man, you are a man, old family name, but.

Speaker 10 (40:40):
It's how do you know?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, it's got to be right, He's an old family name,
Like was it a last name at one point? You
know what I'm talking about the first second?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Oh my god, yeah, because you said I thought alias
C I a something.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Do you work in? Like aviation?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Because well because a huge compliment. You look like a pilot.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, you sure gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
If I was boarding Delta and I saw you, hey,
hope you welcome. If I saw you, I imagine leaving
the plane, I'm and then thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
I have been by the way on this trip, right,
I have been really delivering on thanking the pilots like
you wouldn't believe. We've never even talked, been approaching from
like as far, almost letting a little room pass, so
they're ready for me, you know what I mean. And
then I'm kind of like like from Afar, so it's
like a whole thing. It's like it's kind of like
this all happened for us, and like here I come here,

(41:47):
You're unbelievable, and like all I can say is thank you. Right,
But then when I landa thank you, there's sort of
been this like run up to it. You look like
some of the some of the ones we've seen it there.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah, you could you have you could be a pilot
if you need to.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Now interesting, I just want to say something. Okay, hold
on the other twins right here, they've really held their
own I gotta say okay. And that's I believe because
of the twin experience growing up, they were able to
stand here know that they were people too, even though
my phone wasn't on them. Do you see what I'm saying.
I see that in every single one of them.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Oh my god, By the way, does anyone feel anger?
Because that's an only child. If if all this attention
were I'd be like, I fucking leave, Like I'm not kidding,
I think, I think, I think, or I'd be like I'd.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Like And they're all holding themselves with dignat which isn't
you know? Not everyone? I mean, everyone's really.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
How do we get this?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Don't move? Okay? Always know what I'm saying is I
think we need to one core question that we ask
to get it good. Okay, okay, thanks, this kind of
yes or no to move, it's gotta be quick. I

(43:05):
had an essay question ready, I don't think, Yeah, I think,
what's the most fucked up moment of your life, specifically
as a twin?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I think?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Wait, does anything come to mind under a sentence? You know?

Speaker 3 (43:18):
And look at that. It's not good. They love you.

Speaker 6 (43:22):
Finding my twin brother nearly dead on a beach, but
he's fine.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Okay, we call this stealing focus and the entertainment industry.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
What about the relief when you heard the word nearly yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, yeah, that was big yeah, all right?

Speaker 1 (43:36):
And yet you okay, book podcast at gmail dot com.
We'll take the rest of the story then, okay, you're ready,
and by.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
The way, you know, no wrong, Wait, we're going with
the most fucked up thing that's ever happened to you
as a twin is not what we're doing down the line.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
We got it in one answer. I mean we got
it in a sentence.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
No, that was quick.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
We're moving, okay, rapid fire or just anything you want
to share as a twin, it's chaos.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Okay to go. Don't an answer to that. Here's something
else or you know, you can say past.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
You can say, you can say if you have a
twin anecdote, or you can say if you are happier
if you.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Would just switch places with anyone else. So do you
love being a twin? That's kind of my my little question,
that's you're out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
When my parents got divorced, my brother lived with my
dad and I lived with my mom. Not okay, incredible
if your parents are here, stand boo.

Speaker 10 (44:31):
Yeah, I was left at a gas station, just just briefly,
like for an hour, you know it.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Does your twin have an old family name too?

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Now?

Speaker 10 (44:44):
Benjamin is his name?

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Right? Interesting? You're both min I mean you're both minh
you know what I'm saying? Right for men and Benjamin, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Okay, we're both too entrance with him. We have to.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
When I was me and my twin were both babies,
people used to ask if we were identical.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
He's a boy and I'm a girl, and my mom
would say, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
But he has a penis.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Love.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
When we were sixteen, my brother was almost killed in
a car accident and a stranger came and knocked on
the door wh was home alone and told me and
I had to call my parents a.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Lot them, we have to take a hard right turn
in another direction. It's too upsetting. This is you're doing correct.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
I was incredible.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Perfect, That was incredible.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
I cannot wait. This is going great, Kate, just trust it. Okay,
it's not.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
I mean, my my twin brother has Type one diabetes
and I don't.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Want no I won that trade.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Look of the draw, This life it luck of the draw.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Okay, you're not you're not together and everything right? Just
kind of answer.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
And again you can also just opt out and say
I love being a twin, or sometimes I wonder if
I if I was not a.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Twin, what my life would be like.

Speaker 6 (46:01):
My twin brother is a Republican, I would obviously yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Okay, Still to this day, I will respond to the
name Jordan, but my name's Trevor.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Wow, Jordan's see, I saw it in your eye.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Imagine getting to be Trevor's boyfriends.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
People do hook up at pook shows. I think so.
And even if somebody are romantic doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
You could find a friend tonight, and I'll senilly that
will last longer than whatever romance might be sparked tonight.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Okay, friendship at all costs.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
My twin brother has dated a couple of my best friends.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
I think he's cool.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Yeah, yeah, I can't imagine.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Wait, I just helped her quickly. That's why being your friend.
And then I have to tell you something. Okay, keep going. So,
my twin brother is gay, and so are my parents.

Speaker 7 (47:10):
And one time they went on a they went on
a weekend trip without me, and they sent a bunch
of videos about how they were having so much fun
because it was finally just the gaze.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, but I'm an ally, you're not.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
You are an ally? Yes, to be flanked on all sides. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
When I was little, we were on a family trip
to Disney World and got separated from my family, and
my mom was running around friend ofly with David asking people,
has anyone seen another little boy?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Like yeah, yeah, and then that's.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
How they found me. You were found I'm being like
another right, you were sort of located in space.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
Exactly. But that's also happened in many other ways that
were not so.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
You know, who hasn't been separated from their twin at Disneyland?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
You know that is kind of a modern conundrum. Okay.

Speaker 9 (48:22):
My twin brother once stabbed me with a fork in
the crease of my arm because he was mad.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
At me, and that's it.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Did he feel it?

Speaker 6 (48:32):
How?

Speaker 3 (48:34):
No, he definitely did not. Yeah, pass it down. Love
your necklace.

Speaker 8 (48:41):
By the way, my twin sister and I had a
business when we were six where we would pick up
dog poop in our yard and our neighbor's yard and
pick it up, pick it up. Yeah, but I did
all of the picking up. She did all this spotting,
so she's like it's over there, and then I would
pick it up because I was like the obedient one.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Let me get she was born four seconds earlier, minutes earlier?

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Is that interesting.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Run out of space.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
The biblical cord of the mic seems to have.

Speaker 10 (49:13):
Oh uh, my twin brother used to always do our
math homework, but sometimes he would withhold it.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
So oh my god.

Speaker 9 (49:22):
Wow, this has already been said. But my twin brother
dated my best friend in high school?

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Damn best friend?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Though?

Speaker 3 (49:36):
How long did it last? Like a year?

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Didenhip? Did the friendship suffers or obviously? But did the
friendship can transcend?

Speaker 1 (49:46):
No, it took out a.

Speaker 9 (49:48):
Bit, transcended. Honestly, it ended badly for everyone.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
No, no, but now we're good.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Now. Me and Freddie were great, you and the friend,
me and the twin.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
I'm I'm an only child, but I can only imagine
being like, don't blow my brother?

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Like yeah, yeah, I get that.

Speaker 10 (50:12):
I don't have anything traumatic to share, but I enjoy
being a twin and I like your guys podcast.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Oh the rest of the group going, I didn't know
I could do that, and the fanale head of the
evening and then we'll do only is just kidding.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I also enjoy being a twin, and I think fun fact,
the first time anyone ever singing Happy Birthday to us
alone was when we were nineteen.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Alone, meaning individuating individuation before the.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Other one had ever singing Happy birthday, Happy.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Both to.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
You, birthday, to you, Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
We're bothing, now get one.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Okay, well, this has been just extraordinary.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Guys, thank you so much, Thank you all so much.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
That thank you was wild. This is a funny one
because this is sort of core to our issue of
being podcaster. We're not to be clear, Okay, if you

(51:32):
two didn't have boog what do you think we would
be doing instead? Guys, career side gig. To be very clear,
this is a side gig.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
No, but we've said and by the way, because on
the on the story we've been going, we're so lucky
to hags because it's true. I mean not to but
I mean no, not to good uh no, truly Okay,
I'll start crying right now. It's been unbelievable doing the shows,
seeing all of you, it's been absolutely huge for Like, really,
we go home every night, we can't believe you come
on and look around, don't you feels the sweetest people?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
This is like such a beautiful I like.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
To out, I like to ask front of house, I go,
how are they they go in? Nice people? People, they
got these fans bastards come out in here at night
after night.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Not these people know these people earlier the word kind
they go, you're in the line, you look around, you go,
these are good people.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
And by the way, we'll get to a lot of
these on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
This is that's a really good question. While so don't feel.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
But last night Jacqueline was like, let's just say everything
goes to ship. Yeah, fucked, we fucked pook only for
the rest of.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Our Yeah, we had poo pook holiday alone, even if
we do nothing.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Were saying, imagine this every year poop to on the holidays.
You go, it's time for poog, right, and then we
come back year after year you see the same people.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Whatever happened, Oh they passed away? Right, It's like yeah,
good right and then you and then and by the way, hello,
like and some will die.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I mean that is it's weird, right, No, but that's
how we remember. I mean, that's how we taste the
sweet nectar of life to taste also the bitterness. It's
the rind that falls to the earth.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
As they say in six feet Under, why do people
have to die to make life important?

Speaker 3 (53:07):
You know it's true?

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, as they say, if anyone hasn't uh watched six
feet Under.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Actually, I'm actually thinking about that winter rewatch.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
I think it's a winter rewatch. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
When's last time you watch it?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Me?

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Fishing for the mic Stan Yeah, seven years ago. I mean, yeah,
you're overdue, hounty.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I know. But when there's two little time between, like
a first and a second or second and third, you
actually have to go much longer.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Christmas eason, you have to go PLoP, you have to
go by the way you have to do. And I
don't know how to tell you this first three episodes
on one night, it's three hours.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Get a fucking room, Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Because you think the the the gimmicks of that have
since become utilized in television, Okay by other.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Shows some it's six feet under.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
I go, hey, the first episode might feel little hate
to use this word dated to you.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Okay, Yeah, I've had because the rest.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Of TV, the rest to TV.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, I don't see the sweat on the skin the
way my TV set, Yeah, soccer or whatever.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Okay, because it is a square, right, what it is
a square? You remember it in sixteen nine?

Speaker 3 (54:12):
It was a square?

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Pretty sure? It's a square?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
What six feet hundreds. You watched it in a square.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Oh four to three? Thank you. I knew that, and
you know and when.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
I say square, of course mean tending towards square to them. Yeah,
which four to three D is right, it's just right
next to three three push through.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I'm just saying I watched the whole season with someone and.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I watched I watched the premiere the night it came out,
so I couldn't watch three.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
I watched it every night I was late.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
I was late to my friend's house, okay, because if
something came on and I just okay, I sit down.
Oh it didn't move, No move, I didn't fucking move.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
No, you don't move.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
And then it held my It held my family together
for years.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Yeah it will if anyone here is alive, watch it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Last night, I've had to bring home food to the hotel.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
This was a last night. We had two shows. It
was like twelve thirty am. We're pulling up to the
hotel and Jacquelin's like, I want brisket, and you bravely,
fucking bravely and heroically went into kats Is alone, and
I remember I hovered at the door.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
I feel like I should go in with you. It
was so good, it was so cool.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
The door opened, throngs of like hammered people, a nightmare,
and you just looked over your shoulder and said, I.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Get out of here.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
If I were you and you and you just turned
on your heel and went in. And I was like,
and then remember I texted you, I went, I love you.
Our relationship is so freeing because I didn't want to
go in there.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
I know, I was like it was.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
So I like hearted it, you know, and kept it moving.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
But like, do you remember saying that I would imagine the.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Street you're so tired. I mean it's it's like delirious.
You're about to get back to your room. I mean,
and then to a company a friend to wait for
her food.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
I mean, I I something in me I felt like,
I mean, really kept you or be there.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
There was more thrill for me. And to me, it's
like getting one's own food, you know, like like post
like one am or something like. It's kind of like it's, uh,
it's dirty work and it's gotta be done.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
I had cold Sue when leftovers.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I tried to like make you feel good about it.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Sue, when it's a macrobiotic restaurant. There used to be
three brand, three branches.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
They've reduced to one.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
And one of our first meals actually together, one of
our first meals. You can imagine imagine the cackling.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Screaming imagined it by deeply malnutrition nourished.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
It was like, you know, frail, do you want to
if you want.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
To see a group of unhealthy people, go to the
healthy restaurant. Yeah, you can find and you'll see the
fetishization of.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Deaths I saw, by the way, speaking of twins, Speaking
of twins, I once saw two identical, severely emaciated twins.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
May they find peace.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Physically arguing over squash?

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Now you mean were they pulling at the squash? Like, no,
you have it, you have it.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
It's actually one of the darkest things I've ever in
my life witness. It's one of those things I turned
to like if I have to be in public, and
it's like, I think of the most fucked up ship. Yeah, imaginable.
I like, roll the tape on that and I'm able
to dissociate.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
It's like that's you know.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
What they were doing is they were making sure that
each person had the equal.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
It was like no one can eat more than the
other one, you know, and so they were kind of
looking up the slang. They were like they were like
measuring the squash.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Remember the other night we were eating and I was like, wait,
how many of the like crudo have you had? And
you were like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Jacqueline does. Don't know, Jacquline does.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Unblievable because we eat out to go Jacqueline in a
way that I really admire, and from listening to the podcast,
you'll know she doesn't want to share.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
And you gave me a sip of your whiskey sour
the other night in a very ceremony. You were like,
you could tell wanted to try it.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
I saw that she wanted to try it, and I
was willing to have her.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
And I didn't utter it. You saw that I wanted
to try it. Yeah, because I know. Okay, the other
night cocked boundaries.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
She knows like that. To me, it's like, if you're
getting yourself this thing that you're so fucking excited about,
like a pina colada.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Okay, Well that's has anyone listened to that episode, It's true.
One of the most beautiful moments was Jacqueline, who, well,
you were given the opportunity we were. You had this
unbegal Pinia Clada. I wanted to try it and you said, no.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
You didn't. It wasn't nobody who's actually no, because here's
the thing. I mean, it's key. And I cried when
we talked about it. I cried at the moment, and
I'm about to cry again.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
No, no, it's fine, No, it was beautiful because here's here's.

Speaker 9 (58:32):
What it was.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
So my life has been a series of me having
the courage to order things other people don't and then
me suffering, like you know, it's it's you know, and
I just I go and I try to empower others.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Yeah no, so so but we ordered the drinks.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
I mean I I ordered my movi is to just therefore,
I order what I'm ordering, and I ordered a second
one to the table just in case they decide.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah that's my like, so I in this situation, I
ordered a margarita youata.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
And I see because a lot of people try to
strike this deal, okay, when they're struggling with their own indecision,
you just have a sipp yours right Yeah? No, okay, yeah,
so I but I you know, I have class. I
have style, so I just go. But I also I
wouldn't I just go and you're not having a sip? Okay? Now,
it actually was vulnerable for me, and that's why I

(59:26):
go and you're not having I didn't go, non you
actually felt real vulnerability. I've been very much off sugar
for some time, but I was deciding to have this right.
So I was like, I'm getting a frozen peanut clatta please,
and you're not having a sip.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Yeah, you see, I was fawning a little.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
You did a performance, yeah, like the unspeakable truth had
to be embedded within.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
It had the theater, which is okay.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Yeah, and actually the we have even and we then
we like we laughed about it and then we I cried.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
It was just like no, no, no, because and I said,
like that's okay or something, and then you started crying. Yeah,
and I was like, no, I'm proud of you, Like
it's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
You can tell me like you can't have a sip
and I can like, and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
I don't have to feel like a piece of shit.
I have to feel it was just well because the
other dynamic that we discovered is that you're my bride. Okay,
there's something that happens with us where you're my bride
and I want you to be pleased. Yeah, I want
to see delight spread across your face. It's really hard
for me to withhold, you know, but I also have

(01:00:32):
to be my own bride.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, be your own bride.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
It's a part of looking out for the family at
time is looking out for the individual.

Speaker 9 (01:00:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
You called me a bitch upstairs in a way. That
was really fun though just now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
It was wonderful. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
It was a first.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Well, it was literally not, I mean to me. The
fun of it was there was you weren't There was like,
did you see my eyelander or is there any way
you could have put my eyeliner back in your eyebrow liner?
Clearly I'm not right. Is there any way you could
have seen it, thought it was yours and put it
back in your purse?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
And that was kind of absent minded like this on
my phone. I said, no, it's not possible or something.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
I go.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
She was so sure and I believed her.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Okay, but I just go, bitch, yeah, And it was
really fun.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I really delighted in it again because as an only
that's kind of a you know, sort of like an
intimacy in a closeness that I don't have.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
People call it being like fuck you bitch, you know
what I mean, Like, and there's something about that that
I think puts hair on your chest.

Speaker 6 (01:01:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
It's like there's something about pushing you or being like
I hate you, Like I've never had someone that you know,
you grow up and no one's going, I fucking hate you,
fucking ugly bitch, you know what I mean. Like there's
something about it, like a sibling thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Really. Yeah, then you know that night.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
You're eating spaghetti in front of the TV together, you know,
I don't so in that way. Confrontation hasn't been a
part of my life in a way that I think
is really useful.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
So I and knowing that you love me, I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Was like, this is cool, yea, you you do something
for me somehow that relates to that. I think because
I have some kind of like good girl syndrome like
bake okay, that somehow I'm able with you to like
be in a bad mood, kind of be shitty and

(01:02:23):
I'm like shocked that you still love me at the
end of shocked every time. Yeah, it's very powerful. Like
like I'm like, I'm like like I really like let
it rip with you kind of yeah, Like it's kind
of like I'm kind of like like you know, like
off not even off air, like I don't know, like

(01:02:44):
I'm just like and you're kind of like okay, like
and like you will like react like like there's a bickering,
there's a safe bickering that is very luxurious.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Because sometimes unfold on that kind of it's like the
short thing and then they'll be like, love.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
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