February 27, 2024 • 50 mins
The body just wants yesterday, again. A stranger's office. Kate became the awareness. Jacqueline remembers the crystal shops. To ask, will that ever be me again? Holding the jade egg. Sensing what aisle to turn down. Imagine knowing dawn & yearning for a pendant. You know what it's not? A fucking migraine. The new guy is not the son. Are we fighting wildly, violently, and against our own best interest?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kate Berlan, I'm Jacqueline Novak, And this is POOG,
an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends, two
untamable intellects. This is our hobby, This is our hell.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is our naked desire for free products. This is POG.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Today's topics, loosely speaking, tiny does, tiny hands, tiny medallion. Hello,
ding Dong, It's me from last year.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I know this is absolutely by the way. I mean,
I don't even know how to begin.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Heaven heaven here with you.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Heaven knows your life.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Be sorry, I don't know that well anyway, Hi, Hire,
I can't believe because to be clear, and maybe this
is already abundantly clear to the to the hags. But
we have not done a recording since the tour, and
there have been so many days where I've of course
(01:01):
missed you, been toiling, missing you, days of inspiration. I go,
this should we should be recording, you know, conversations we've had.
But it's okay. The point is that we're back.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Isn't it surreal? Because we were going to I think
what we should do is or you know, I'm thinking, oh,
a tour recap, don't move on? Yeah, yeah, well I
will say one thing, the main thing.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I mean, there will be some natural moments, of course
we will.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
We will dip back into it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Tour was explosive, and thank you everyone who came, just
to hate to hey, thanks for coming, but truly thank you.
It was unbelievable. Doesn't it feel like so long ago
that we were on tour, Jacqueline, I mean being with
you us too. Another day, another city, Christmas cackling. I
was just thinking about us trying to get meals late
(01:49):
at night, places being closed, we went, we were in
What city was that? See this is like the cliche
of the person on tour. What city was? That's all blur?
But where was it? Where the beautiful French restaurant? And
again I typically don't reach for French cuisine, but what
was the place where? We got there a minute after
they closed and it was bustling and the rude mutret
and I I could not believe it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Oh yeah I did. He said something like he said
something related to the theater.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, because I was being I go. We just got
off the stage, looking in his eyes. A couple of performers.
Come on, sir, he couldn't have cared that. That's good
for him.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Though security concerns.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Thank you to the San Francisco Proper Hotel for helping
us out. Beautiful room given.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, they did help us.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Champagne toast.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
No, it was just funny because for a second there
it almost sounded sarcastic. But I know you're going for
the exact opposite. I know it happens to be a
lot where real enthusiasm is is mistaken for disingenuous uh whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Where I'm know you're actually your heart's in it, and.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's like, actually, yeah that was authentic.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So I'm just where are you?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Celsius addictions worse than it's ever been?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Too serious? How many a day? Jacoa?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Two? Oh mys? And actually the other day I think
I did three, but still falling asleep. Yeah, you know,
like I'm I don't mean a night, I mean during
the day. I mean the receptors are gone. The receptors
are like they're like my uh inside grain receptors. Yeah,
my teeth. Now, I'm just no, you know, like I've
(03:26):
ground them down. Okay, so they're no longer like a
dog's tooth, they're flat, right. I feel like my caffeine
receptors whatever, they've been obliterated, you know, like rapen bathed.
I mean like this is, this is I'm sorry a
little bit, but I was in meditation this morning.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Whoa you heard me in seven months? And I was
on such a fucking hold.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Out the old mantra, and I am resisting. The body
is resisting because Corneal Joe Despenza, whose work I've been
doing a deep dive back into.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, you even suggest that I could use your login,
that'd be huge.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah. So the body, when the body becomes the mind. Okay,
the body is the record of the past. Okay, okay,
the bodies around the past. Okay. Cellularly, we bathe our
cells and these emotions, and then our cells are literally
addicted to them because anything you placed in the environment,
it wants more of. So then you're addicted to certain emotions.
(04:25):
And then those emotions come obviously with certain thoughts, and
then that becomes a mood, becomes a personality, it becomes
a destiny whatever. So to get into the generous present moment,
you have to the body. The body will resist. The
body just wants yesterday. Again okay, and you have to
(04:49):
say no, okay, you you have to use the crowning
achievement of the human form, the frontal lobe. Okay, and
go and.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Treat it like a stallion plastic city and go no, yeah,
and oh.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, so the body will resist. It's amazing. It's like,
isn't it wild? Just like you know, spend all night
reading about the benefits of meditation, completely excited, and then
the next morning literally kind of like.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
No, it's impossible. I mean again, thinking about myself and
maybe this summer I was on poog ranting about I'm
meditating every day. I was, Yeah, I was doing twenty
minutes twice a day. I was at a work function,
asked to be excused yes when he found an office, Yeah, yes, yeah,
and found office Hi do you mind? And I got
to kind of be the whoa, she's really went into
(05:38):
an office, a stranger's office, dim the lights, meditating, and yeah,
my greatest fear happened around minute seventeen. The door handle jiggled,
brought me out erradically into the present, and I thought,
that's okay. I was so calm. I got to the
point where I started to feel it happening noticing thoughts
and said, I can tell you I started having that
happen in my life. I started going, oh, thoughts are
(06:00):
coming up. Interesting, interesting. I started to beat that. The
observer you.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Became the awareness.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I'm back relapsed hard, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, searching. Ah, yeah,
getting it directly a joke.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
By the way, this is not a joke.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I'm going back. I'm going back to I'm doing five
days nothing starting Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
See. I just think that with you, these these these.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Extreme, these harsh extremes.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They you're comfortable with a routine of bender and then not.
I know it's become a no.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But I was doing the ten minute integration, as I
call it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yes, you were finding balance.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And I'm doing that again. I'm going to go back
ten minutes a day. That's all you get your.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Bad phone still, right, Yeah, I still have two phones.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So that's actually it's actually been a long and by
the way, thank you. You're right. It's a huge difference
not having Instagram when I'm out in the world. Huge
still having two phones.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Ah, only in your home, only in your sacred space.
I know I'm joking, but yes, okay, it's a huge thing.
That must we must on knowledge.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Okay, No, no, I was I mean, yes, but I
was moving to by the way, this thing that happened
to me today, hyper Let me don't forget the window. Okay,
hold on to the window. Okay, you're right here. And yes,
this was fed to me by Instagram. Okay, do I
recognize the irony, of course, but who cares? Okay, you ready,
(07:26):
don't you dare? Scroll? First thing in the morning in theta. Okay,
you're coming from delta to theta to beta, I think,
and then there's ranges of beta, but the point is
to go from sort of delta to you know, deep
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low theta whatever theta. And then you open up your phone.
You are thrust violently into high beta. Okay, and it's
not good. And I forgot why it's not good, but
I know it's not good. Oh. And then the dopamine.
This is the other thing, first thing in the morning. Okay.
This high dopamine action of the scrolling, when you're in
that state sets off a addictive thing where you need
(08:09):
it all day.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Oh okay, somebody with a Hulu show liked my picture. Oh,
oh my god, what could this mean for me? Absolutely? Nothing.
I mean, it is fucking crazy. No, no, no, it's it's
completely true.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Show things I slayed in this photo.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's completely it's I was having an
incredible conversation last night and I really.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh wait, your spiritual experience looking out the window. Okay,
i'll say this morning, but wait and last night, I'm
herea ousy.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I'll just say this. Guess guess what. Guess what. I'm
going to a psychiatrist. Motherfucker. I'm getting medicated. I can't
live like this anymore. I'm getting I want to I
want to experiment with the modern eighty medication. I'm going
on a long road trip eighty two point zero the
book which I bought and of course have been unable
to read past page two. We're going to do the audiobook.
(08:59):
I'm going to see you cock sucking psychotherapist. I'm an
experiment because what because here's my fear is right, because
after all, of course more powerful than cocaine. Yeah, I'm
terrified of that. And who knows what drugs are?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Self stimulating?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Look at me, afraid at me?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Self stimulating?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
What you're doing?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, I can't tell.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm I'm using the mic, I'm using the microphones.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Web rubbing on your forehead.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
To lift my eyebrow up down.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, I want to go on a microdose. By the way,
it's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Careful, yeah, I just no, no, no, I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Say it's micro dose pills.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh, I don't guess. Let me get I don't know
what the contemporary signed on the tiny there's ever been
a flexapro.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm mocking this.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I feel like there's a thing that like women in
my family, it's like half a half a SYMBOLTI yeah, yeah,
my doctor, and it's like a wrestler, half wrestler. Okay,
and yes, now you've you've you've swallowed whole the sumer
wrestler idea and forgotten that it can from me and my.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Thought it was you. I knew it was you.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh thank god.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Don't erase me. Wait, okay, so psycho theay, so so here.
So here's here's the thing. I downloaded an app okay
that got served to me. It said I was scrolling Okay, yes,
I recognize the irony.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And it said, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Hey, imagine if you weren't scrolling O get or if
instead of scrolling, you were taking in useful information whatever.
I run to the app. Okay, I get in there.
What books are you interested in? ADHD two point zero yep,
and it starts serving me the book in kind of
a form that is sort of you just swiping across,
and there's sort of visuals and I'm not I'm not
even like I don't even think I'm like the visual
(10:39):
learner or whatever. I like can read easily. But I
was doing the app version of ADD she want to no,
it was coming and I was going yes, and I
was learning things. And I learned something within like five
minutes that I did not know about ADD, like what now?
And I remember telling Chris Chris, I learned something about
ADD that I did not know and I thought, oh
my god, I'm so excited to show Okay, forgot can't remember.
(11:00):
Oh no, wa wait, let me see if I could
find it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I mean mentally search of the brain.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
The point is the guy's got new things to say.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I'm curioused by the way. There's some pills I haven't
even heard of out there.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I know, I know, well you know about what happened
to me when I tried one of the modern pills
but I mean at this point it was eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
But weren't you vibing with their.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Friend to rone? Or I met up with our friend
a Rone and I was on the pill. It was
I forget what was called it. If you said it,
I'd remember.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And what happened.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It was another ADYD pill. It was like newer add pill.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I was on a weird one. There were shape of
little tubes. That was when I was like seventeen. I
remember there were like long tubes. I guess all pills
are tubes. No, this was different. It was no, no, no,
it was like it was not a rhombus.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It was a crazy two dimensional it's part of.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
The sea anyway. Wait, so what happened when you met
up with him? Were you tweaking?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So I was already on the thing, and I'm sitting
there in Central Park chatting and I go, wait, something
is a miss okay, And I go, it's silent in
my head. No stop, okay, go silence in there, okay.
And it was like Jesus, it was exactly like if
on the interior, if all of a sudden all the
birds stop chirping, all the you know, you know what
(12:17):
if like the equivalent of the exterior. Just everything kind
of goes silent. But it was the interior. And I
didn't realize, you know, until I was having that experience
that that is not what I'm normally experiencing, right right,
you know those like in movies when they're like, I
mean not really, I mean, I mean I was, I
(12:38):
immediately dollar signs in the eyes, going is this everything?
Is this what others have? I mean, it would make
it made me go if this is how others are living, okay,
even any of the population. I was like, then we
have nothing in common, okay, and me relating to you know, however,
(12:59):
much of the popular is like this, we are living
in a.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Completely different realities.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, different world like yeah, because I don't even think
like I'm not even like internal monologue person.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Like no, no, just I'm not like full sentences no no, no, no,
of course not France images. It's more like James Joyce
in there.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, yes, I wait, spiritual looking at the spiritual looking.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
At the window.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Last night I was on a chair talking about a
d you know, all this, and I was talking about
the relapsing on the phone, and this morning woke up,
I thought, what if I looked out the window. What
if I just turned and looked at the window, I
felt the presence of God. Okay, so true. I mean
(13:58):
truly I was like, I reach for my phone. I
see texts, right, I don't go further. I don't click
them to open them up. I turn away and I
look into the Yeah, and I just it was the
thing where I'm like, I was like to be clear, Yeah,
and if I was like if I just did this,
like it's like whatever, who fucking care? I just got
(14:21):
depressed thinking about my life.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Wait what just now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, I just got so depressed. I mean, like this
is the phone.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Spiritual, just the part on you. Just then something happened.
Were you selling a lie? Were you like?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
No, No, I wasn't. I was thinking about again this
is and this is pooh. You know it's like I
was thinking about all I thought, Yeah, I know, this
is all I have to do. I just to look
at the window every morning and and and just notice
nature and just take in even just for even spiritual
even you know people go even just for five minutes,
five minutes or six hours. Yeah, oh even just five minutes,
what five minutes?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Try ten seconds?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, try to start with ten seconds, start with ten seconds.
And the other thing, I get so hard June ten
seconds all hot. Even earlier you went like this and
I thought, even that, just take one bread, Oh my god.
But I was like, and this is the thing, like
page a day because reading now, my reading is so off.
(15:16):
I haven't read a book in month.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I was thinking about it a lot. I think about it.
I think I hear it in our head. I mean
our head, by which I meant you and me talking.
I sometimes hear in our head, I mean my head.
Kids started is happening. But I'm like lying on like
a non.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Negotiable okay, non negotiable.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And you know it's been saving me, not dragging myself.
Not television. Yeah, where I'd like to well tell you.
I can't wait to tell you about my current Hobanichi situation.
But you know, my new year, getting the special journal
that I have, remember the special daily journals and getting it,
and then you know, weeks go by. I mean like
I was, you know, Jan one through six, and you know,
(15:53):
I'm not one of these people that gets on board
for things Jan one, but the calendar starts send, so
I found myself among them. Not yeah, the first, like
eight days, I had a chart where I would fill
in a little box like yes, like I meditated, Yes
I did Tracy Anderson workout. Yes I did this is
in tract you know, like you as I sat with
the journal whatever, and it was like going and filling
(16:15):
in the blocks and whatever. And then you know, things
got a little crazy and I decide it's like if
the practice is not I don't know, two years embedded
in your body again when shit's going down, like oh,
like there's a bunch of stuff to do, it all
fucking goes and that's like like when you like, excuse yourself,
(16:38):
you know, to go do your meditation. Hm, it must
have been in your body enough that your body pushed
through on the habit.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
To wanting to make you go do it. Yeah, And
like the twenty minutes twice a day, God, that was good.
But I'm like, I just don't know if that will
ever be me again for more than a month, I know, devastating.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Well I've wondered, Kate, Yeah, I've wondered, if you know,
these fantasies of like I was reading this one book
and reading and I was listening to David Lynch is
like book catching the big fish or whatever from whenever.
And it's like he's talking about when he like found TM,
(17:20):
you know, and and like the first time he tries it,
and I'm pretty sure he said like basically he tried
it one day at the TM center, you know, and
hasn't missed a day since. Okay, now that how right? Now?
I mean how I get it? If you pull it
off for six years, you struggle for six years, and
then you get it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
There are also just three two who doesn't have ad
David Lynch. Guess who does not have a d D.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, Well what I was going to pose.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Was and for those who don't know, TM is transcendental meditation.
Keep going.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I couldn't bring I couldn't decide which way to say
it which I'm from. So so I was thinking, do
I need my teacher to recede my mantra? Okay in
my in my flesh, you know. I was like, just
need to get re uh so fuck oh here was
my thought. So you and me going, will it ever
be me for more than a month?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Are we destined to experience our on and off again life? Okay?
We can either suffer it, we can rail against it.
We can constantly be suffering. Why aren't I lynch? Right?
Or can we somehow make peace with on again off again? Right?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah? Ooh, now I like this. I like this.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Now here's where I get a little bit and you're saying,
where you start to think, this is it? This is
the answer? Yeah, the whole thing. And that's my spiritual
dollar signs where you start to go, no pain, no pain.
I figured it out if I just do five minutes
a day staring out the window, you know. Yeah, But
it's like I want to force something onto this, and
so I go. There's the whole problem that all of
these practices we've been doing are sort of masculine, psyche ideal. Okay,
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in the union yong sense to be clear, sure you
know continuous linear, never ending, eternal okay, okay, nuclear unending
energy power, continuous straight line. Are we fighting wildly violently
and against our own best interest against the cyclical? Kate
is the problem. We're not on and off again. We're
(19:22):
not receiving the cyclical.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
God, this is good, bitch, And if we.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Could align with the cyclical, there would be room and
it would know it's not we're not.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
So I love this, This is that.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So this is I find myself three years back where
I learned this once, okay, when I was reading all
those cyclical things. And then I've also wondered at times,
are some of these meditation practices, you know, designed by
men for men? Okay, yeah, in the year whatever. And
I've even gone, do I have a feminine psyche that
(19:58):
is sitting on the rock? Like what if that really?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I've been doing this moving meditation Heartstone by Tracy Anderson. Okay,
it's recently dropped. There are these stunning things you hold
with Rose Courts, okay, and you do this work whatever.
And as we know, I experienced wild changes back when
I was doing dance. The chakras couldn'tle yoga, all that
kind of stuff. What if, you know, what if you
(20:24):
and me are trying to be good little tm and
sit down and do our thing, but we're forcing a
kind of masculine What if, for example, moving meditation was
our natural way?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
M h.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
What if what if embodied meditation was our okay, was
where it was where.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
We where the where the spiritual and the and the
grotesque met for us again, and we're like fighting it,
like like there's a prejudice against that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
There's a prejudice against like ecstatic dancing stoic.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh by the way dancing, yeah ship I had. Yeah,
that stuff's crazy. That'll get you crazy people that are
really into that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Like going going from But you don't have to just
be up, like like the Dance of the Chakras. Things
starting like stamping your feet, yeah, and the roots are
going to the ground feet feet feet. There was this
other one by shiver Rat that was incredible. An audio
program took you through. I mean when I was doing this,
I was like at another level, you know, forgot you
(21:25):
know what I mean, life happened. But Chiva Rat it
was called Shocked You Dance or something. It was like
forty five minutes long, and it whipped you from It
whipped you from you started with the roots and the
feet and the stamping and then up the up to
the knees and the knees catch fire.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It anything anything like I got down some wormhole on
Instagram where I came across this woman who's obsessed with
like jade vaginal jade eggs. And this is the whole
thing of like the Kuta manifestation. It's in your pussy
and she's like, oh, pussy will bring anything that you want. Yeah,
and she's like to do this thing and she's like it's
(22:01):
all very straight though she's like the cock. I'm like,
oh God, Like she's just really but she's like she's
talking about. And then she's this woman who's like, I,
my pussy knows everything. She's like, I'll be She talks
about like she's a job at a warehouse and she's like,
I get down the ols of the warehouse. My pussy
knows which which I'll just turn down, Like I'll listen.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
This is incredible.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And I was like very interested in. And then this
woman who's like talks about and does she use the
word pussy. Yeah. And this woman who's in it, who's like, yeah,
I've been training with a jade egg whatever. She's like,
I gave birth. It was pure, there's no pain. I
was coming the whole time.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
No, okay, it's orgasmic birth with you.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I was like, that was actually an early stand up
bit of mine, really early.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You want to it's genius Jason or whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I love you so much. I can't believe you remember that.
I mean, it's it's horrendous. I was talking about coming
on like my son's head or whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It's like horrific phenomenal is one of the key reasons
that I recognize your greatness.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Oh my god, thank you. I remember doing that. I
remember that was a specific bit I did. Or like
a manager, like like a like a sleazy manager with
the business car was like, yeah, yeah, I ditch that stuff.
But it's like, no, you got something, you got something,
But I wouldn't do that stuff. Yeah, but uh, oh
my god.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, but this woman's like talking about I mean, while
I'm worried, I'm like, save it, save it, leap it
all out, and I'm going to create your next special
around it.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But yeah, but she's talking about, you know, paying during birth,
loving it coming the whole time. Now I'm like, in
my mind, I'm like cervical orgasms, Like that's the big
that's like the thing this woman's talking about. And this
other girls talk and now I squirt from kissing. I
was like, well, I actually don't want that. I don't
want to be like making out and be like drenching. Yeah,
a surface. But this woman is.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Being served this like this, Oh I've not been warehouse.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's this guy that I follow on Instagram who I
saw visually in Airwan and I saw him and I
kind of was like, oh my god, it's him, And
then like a vision looked at me. I saw him
in the yam aisle and by the yam basket.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And yam isle for caper lamb. I know, you know
it looks like you ask a mechanic, I'll give you
a hammer. Right, It's always yams, You're always I know.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
So I looked at I looked at him, and it
was that thing where he looked at me, and I thought,
does he know, like, is there a world where somehow
he got into poog like because I maybe liked something,
you know, I'm just like in some.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
World does he or is he just looking at me?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You know, because he was looking No, it wasn't he's
looking at It was like our eyes met pussy knew
yah his pussy like truly and it was like he
and he does the whole thing about I don't even
know what his thing. Oh I saw jetones and no, no,
but that's how he got to the jade stone. Pussy
on what's this through I saw she called the jade stone.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Sorry, yeah, yeah, you were saying, like her being like
the cock like yeah, like the j stone, the just
the jade stone. Because I remember back in the days
in the crystal shops, Okay, it would be like there
were these egg it's an egg, you know, egg shaped stone.
But sometimes they would be like that's that's they basically
(25:26):
would be like sometimes they'd act like that was like
the word egg has foundine connotation and like uh uh
not vestibule vessel connotation. But then they're like, but oh,
I know what it was. It was like it was
like shivellingum or something. Okay, wait, let me see. And
there were it was like it contains some masculine and
(25:46):
the feminine because they're like, it's a stone, you have
the stone object, particularly if they're putting it in themselves.
Is that not kind of penetrative energy or are they
acting like you're putting the stone and you are the egg.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I have no fucking idea, is the answer. I think
it's about like kegle muscle training. But then of course
the streak because like and it you know, it's a
good rey reproductive health of like m you know, it's
like all this stuff. And then Gwenna came in trouble.
The jade egg was like the thing that was synonymous
with why Goop was like a laughing stock because like
Gwenna had to pay out. I think she had to
(26:22):
pay out for it some claim on the Goop website
about the jade egg or something, and I'm, well, we'll
do the research, are we won't? But there was something
it was like I think she had to actually pay
And then yeah, this girl talking about shooting Why is
this the big thing people want to do? Oh yeah,
I started shooting ping pongs out of my pussy. Like what.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You're like, why is that the well? Like why is
I mean knowing nothing, but like is must childbirth be painless?
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Like totally right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
If you want to do you accept the claim?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I don't know. It's like there is I know, not
of what I speak.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
There is definitely there is a connection between sexual energy
and the crave energy or whatever, like for sure, but
it's like I don't know these women with their ping pongs,
I just I just can't get behind it.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
But it's just putting the energy into the ping pong. Okay,
how is it getting into your art? Like yeah, it's
bouncing against the wall like if you're exactly. That's what
I mean, like you shooting the ping pole. You're not
like starting a business where you're like, you're not like
manifesting a business. It's like you've made You've made manifest
(27:40):
I mean, I remember doing belly dancing video that I
really enjoyed and frankly should get back into. And I
can't remember her name right now, it'll come to me,
but you know, we're working hips, and you know, she'd
say these things that if someone passed by the room
they would hear and laugh, you know, but like you know,
like you know the power and the hips, the power
(28:01):
and the hips, and we're kind of like are we
talking symbolically what's going on? And like you can and
shaking the hips and.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
There's a lot to do.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Weird, it's weird. It's it's like if you go through
a period where I don't know, everything is as meaningful
as it is to the person. You know, It's like
the ping pong balls could be a symbolic act of
whatever that lets them monder.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
No God blood, truly, I'm like, great, great, And this
woman is talking about how now she gives her husband
hand jobs with her pussy. I was like what she's like.
She's like she's like my and she's like, my husband
loves my pussy. Now I was like great, Like sorry,
I had to go through a twelve course ping pong
course to get him on board. But and it's like
she's like, he says, it feels like a thousand hands,
(28:55):
like jerking him.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
A thin hands.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, and I'm like, show us the husband's I want
to see these motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Well, yeah, I saw this. I saw this. I saw
this thing. It was what was it about facial massage
or something, you know, And I mean it's like my
life is like about like all I am on Instagram
is lymphatic drainage, facial massage, facial exercise. It's like that's
(29:30):
my hobby apparently, and I'm trying to understand it. But
oh yeah, I'm really listening of opening up okay, pumping
the pumping the armpits, what's that ten times? Because that's
the ultimate where like the limb ultimately, I think that's
like where it dumps it in deliver or something, okay,
to move the ship out. The arm pits are like
(29:51):
the final stop, I think, Okay. And then and then there'stermany,
which is under the collarbone and under from above. I mean, okay,
and you get pumped this to open this up. And
then so any any of the lymphatic drainage, you got
to pump these terminy okay, right here okay. And so
it's like very appealing idea, like warm it up, warm
(30:12):
it up. And I've been pumping all.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Those guys to I don't like pumping the limp. It
just makes me want to throw up.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So wait, hold on, hold on, and we take me back.
Oh the husband's oh yeah, So she's like it was
like and like you know, of course so focused on
the result that I don't notice sort of the meaning.
And then finally I did. I was like it was
a meditation, but I was like, she's like, my husband
thought i'd gotten a facelift. Okay, but what you did.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And it's like instead after.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
No or after you know, lymphatic drainage or whatever like
or like you know, after I did these exercises for
two weeks.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Okay, your husband doesn't know you're you don't like.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
He thinks you might have gotten a facelift. So where's
your husband?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well that's always the question.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
How often do you see the man? Yeah, like did
you get a facelift. You know what I'm saying. I mean,
it's it's just.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
So devastating. You're like, no, you just haven't looked at
me in years. Yeah, you've glanced in direction, see anything?
God damn, yes, honey, I did take that to the end.
What's the logical end? Yeah, exactly. Well, you were out
with the boys. I was getting a facelift. Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
He didn't see me for two weeks. Yeah, you know,
I was recovering. I've been leaning the neck.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I gotta go back in.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Actually no, I can't say I've been doing it with
a ferrocity. I've been, but when I'm watching the tube,
I sort of lay it somewhere.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But you're watching those days and a good jolles.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I just finished True Detective.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
God, I listen. I turned on episode one because I
got excited of it. Okay, great, we all remember the
goofiest thing on Earth, which I guess everyone talks about.
I've missed the discourse entirely. But I was also amazed,
like they're both playing straight women. It's like really dark,
like when that one is like writing that guy's dick.
I was like, waitit, wait what poor Jodie's like she
(32:27):
says something. She's like, oh god, I love God. She's
like it's something. I'm just like, it's so crazy. What
are you guys doing? Oh people are such senile losers.
Making both of them a straight is so weird.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Well, I don't want to give anything away.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Oh wait, doesn'tthing go down? Go down?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I wish?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Okay, that would have been great.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
No, but but but one of the characters does say
that she's had girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Okay, I say she's a single.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
A single line of dialogue is thrown to the wolves.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I won't say anything about the show, but I did
ultimately very much.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Enjoy It's supernatural.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well it can be read two ways.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Cool cool, which I was watching again that the first episode,
and it's so funny when she shows like that, try
to be funny, like it just never works, Like every
joke bombs hard, Like what was it? It was something like yeah,
well uh, or what is it? I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Is it a character who's supposed to be funny?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
But there was something we're supposed to go there? There
was something this thing of like or it's like when
something's written by people who are I say it with
respect old and they're trying to say something about the
current culture. Like there's a character who's like has like
his phone set up ostensibly to record some kind of
TikTok video or front facing video, and it's like, whoever
wrote this or something has no idea what this actually
looks like. It's like a character making a sandwich. He's like, hey, guys,
(33:48):
what's up today, And it's just like this isn't even.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's based on It's like
they wrote it based on another television show that had
that character in it, which was based out like no
one actually needs to see a person making a ticktock,
although I did see someone driving down the street in
Los Angeles, like I saw like full on almost like that,
you know the cliche, you know when you like think
(34:13):
the cliche isn't and then you come across like like
someone like taking it again, you know, like taking the
good again, and then like I'm here in.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Front of them and they're absolutely out there. I was
thinking about I'm just hold.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
On, I'm getting going into a full split. I've been
going in studio.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I'm coming, by the way, I email Tracy. I emailed
the website going hello because I was like, I want
to come in for a private to like learn the ropes.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, that response interesting.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
See if you can pull some strings for me.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, I think you just got to go to book
class and then you hit on private. Let's say I'm
coming you see in my in my distance.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
My ass is going up to my shoulders by the summer.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It's always about you always think your ass needs to
be lifted. It's never been anywhere but high flying.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I've actually been having kind of a healing experience with
my ass. Lely, I feel about like.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
It's always like get a new ass by January with
you always. I brought this up before, but it's always
like I need a new ass. I never think about
it's just behind me. Wow, it's in the dust, it's
in the wind.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I literally never think like about my.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That's also because you don't have the pain that I have.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
It's like my lower the pain brings you to it
and then vanity follows.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Well just that I can't do the stuff that you
can probably do.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Oh no, I just mean in my life hip issues,
I don't know, I just don't think about it that much.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Okay, A what time do you go to the studio.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
It varies six thirty sometimes PM. Yeah ten Jesus, can
you imagine? But yeah, I'd get into like some seven
am practice if I could rediscover the early morning when
I say ree to suggest that I've ever really known it,
But imagine knowing dawn. Imagine knowing dawn like it's your life.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I know. Well, I was thinking about this about Lacey
Phillips or is it Yeah, I want to say Lacy Peters.
I know Lacy Phillips, the magnetic woman, and how she
wakes up at dawn and then she got My big
obsession about her is that she once the sun is setting,
she turns off all No more screens in the house,
no more artificial lights, all candles.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
We've talked about this, Yes, because I've done. I have
my digital version, which is still better than most, because
I have a little battery operated candles that turn on
at like five thirty. Yeah, I got to recharge them.
I mean I got to put my new rechargeable battery.
And then that's the one thing that Oh, as usual,
I asked rated my own saliva, which a classic Well
(36:42):
what'll take me in the end? Oh, I'm thinking of
ordering the straw I saw this thing that goes onto
a straw. It trains you in getting your tongue against
the roof of your mouth like mewing, and all the
benefits and breathing. It's marketed as an anti snoring thing,
but in general it does everything. And I want it.
I want it, I want it. It's huge. And then
(37:04):
the other thing I'm I'm kind of wanting what I
refuse to pay. Yeah, so you know the MF stuff right,
Oh no, it's a bad rabbit hole. Right if you
go down that, you're just like, okay, we're all.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I had a friend recent that was like, you don't
have em F blockers on your phone? Like are you insane?
And I almost know yeah, and they do. Yeah, I'm
a texture right now?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Is it like the little disc?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I don't know. I'm a texture right now.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Because your text text. I'd like a personal wreck on
this because what so I get served one. It's a
little medallion you wear around your neck to protect you
from electromagnetic stair frequencies.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Full medallion ridiculous? What full?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Julian Moore and safe? You know, like it's a film.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't think i've seen it.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
You haven't seen Safe as Wild. You have to see
Safe tonight.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Is it old?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yes, it's Tod Haines.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Oh my god. No, I haven't seen that, Jacqueline.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I'm wordless, right Okay, when you were saying Safe hasn't
seen it?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Okay, incredible s a f So it's poog.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
It's poo.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
So the medallion, I see it.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
We should do merch. That's poog. But in the Safe Genius. Wow,
this is actually hekay?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I mean I say that already sold. I know I
heard you know. It's my favorite film.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
And don't forget merches live folks. The merch company has
been tough, so sorry. If you've had any issues, let
us know. But by the merch.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
If anyone wants to wildly revolutionize the merch industry, partner
partner with me. Okay, I have my ideas about that
tiny medallion. I have trouble believing that the tiny medallion.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Ye, you should have trouble believing that. That's I do.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I can't buy it. I can get into it. But
then here was the problem for me, So I go,
I go, fuck it, I'm buying it. I don't care. Okay,
it's fake. They clicked the medallion. Yeah, I click through
the link, and it's one of these endless scroll which
is so like two thousand and two infomercial, but on
a web page, which is you scroll, they make you scroll.
(39:12):
You're trying to get to purchase. It's it's really actually
like sick. It's like this thing where because you can't
get to the purchase button and see how much it is,
you're almost like more invested, okay, and you just keep
going scrolling, scrolling, and you're like it's and they do
this thing where they lay out this is like classic.
They lay out like what it should cost?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Oh right, They're like it should be because.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You're getting for a two thousand dollars for you know,
two hundred and eighty six okay or some random number.
And then like and if you buy it now, you know,
in the next ten minutes, you know, apps knock another
four million. Not if I come back to your website tomorrow,
I'm not gonna be offered the same whatever it's it's
(39:52):
And so I go, why are they doing Like why
are they doing this cheeseball marketing technique that is completely
entirely in o associated with like bullshit products, Like you're
telling me there's science here and then you're you're doing
this version of the buy now. I know exactly, and
I had to back out. I had to exit my
(40:13):
ass out.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
You backed out. Good for you. I'm glad you bought it.
And here I am yearning, Oh I have. I was
humbled deeply because about three weeks ago I got the
common cold, and I had.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
You forgot it was a three days ravaganza. I had
to tell you, like, it's like two weeks of your life.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Men, it was two weeks. It was two weeks. I
was doing a show. Okay, I was doing eight shows
a week, seven or eight shows a week. I was
never I never had to cancel show. It was never
to the point where I but there was a there
was There was one day, by the way, I had
a matinee, I drank, I did, I took Dave cool
and had a Celsius and I was wow tripping and
(40:52):
I got off stage and I was like, I actually
can't drive. I had to have someone drive me because
I was like, yeah, yeah, it was crazy. But the cold,
the way the common cold humbles you, I couldn't believe
it because here I am, I've been knock on wood.
I've had this incredible kind of immune system and fending
and I've been doing it got me, It got me,
(41:13):
And by the way, I was deeply grateful. It wasn't COVID,
you know, as far as I know, testing whatever. But
the way when health returns, holy shit, Yeah, when health returns,
and I was saying, I was saying, I was like
a day of health. Any day of good health is
like the almost unblievballe blessing from God imaginable, right, And
it really is true. It's like there's nothing even and
(41:34):
even just a a sore throat or it's like when
the health returns, you're like, oh my God, and every
every other thing you aspire for or you know, it's
like all desires fade when the health returns. Yeah, you're
just like, oh.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Anyway, no, I'm just like built and immediately take it
for granted. And within a day's time.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
It's like here, I'm thinking about the beginning of the
episode of right Us. Oh here I maximized. If you
have health, you have everything. And it's the cock sucking truth. Yeah,
I don't care how many hand jobs you're giving your
husband inside your pussy. It's like for those of us
just joining Yeah, but and I'll post on the grand
(42:19):
for fun the wellness subblemans I was taking but I couldn't.
I still do think it was the kind of cold
where if I could just have stayed in bed, I
would have been fine after four days. But because I
was working well remember rest for you, what was it
I can't.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
You're like, I can't heal because I'm draining my energy,
and I lay stage and I go, don't think of
it as draining your energy. You know, you know you're
doing your your art. Think of it as like the
show heels. Well.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I started saying, yeah, the show heels, because like there
was one night where I was like, there's really only
one time where I kind of was like the product
is suffering. There was one show where you could hear
it in my voice and I just felt kind of
low energy, and I was like, I don't like this
because I'm just not giving my best show. But then
I came off stage and I felt better, and I said,
I turned to my stage manager. I said, the show heels.
(43:04):
The show heels because doing it at least takes you
out of it.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Also that as performers, okay, the body is a reality, right,
and the bodies effect on the so called product. The
body cannot be removed from the product. Okay, So instead
of seeing it as your cold was making the product suffer, it's.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Like you your body is the product, that.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Is the product because it is right. It's like look, look,
look vocal power.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Here, she comes, she gets business. Yeah, sure, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
It's like, okay, like it's like sure you know, like yeah,
like don't don't get a cold, you know, but when
it's there.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Well, by the way, something else happened. But I know
you'll relate to this strange you for it because I
am so paranoid about a hyperfix. Say I'm not getting sick,
just kind of generally I have fear. Of course COVID
exacerbated this, but it's like the common cold anything. I'm
like really like, I will be completely if somebody sniffles
around me and like get the fuck out of here,
and I really find it, like I do deep. The
(44:14):
thing I'm judgmental of most it's all the people who
are sick and in public or I mean, like you
know the things that you're at. We've talked about this,
but it's like you've been sitting next to one at
dinner party all night and they go, I'm going to
duck out early, and I'm not feeling well actually, like
I'm kind of fighting this cold. Like cool, I'm so glad.
Yeah that your bag at was spread across my mouth
the whole night.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
I love the way you shared your bread with me
and your poor choicest I mean, it's just upon your fingers.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
But but but this thing that I have been fearing happened.
And again it wasn't a severe case. Okay, yeah, but
I was like, there is something. They go, oh, this
is what I've been fearing, and I'm okay, right, it's
kind of.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
The true medicine for caper lance illness. No, but it's
a land in the center of the storm where there's
a stray.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I did a strong and brave okay. People around me
were going, wow, I can't believe it. Really, know, you're
really you're not canceling shells, You're doing it. I go,
you know what, it's not a fucking migraine, and anything
is tolerable because I'm so used to living with their
kind of pain. It's like, oh, if this were a migraine, right,
like that would make me want to actually cry. There
was once I had the cold and I felt like
I was gonna cry because I would just felt like,
(45:21):
but yeah, if it's not a migraine, I'm like all right,
Like I.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Find like the cold. The worst part is the sort
of day too, if it progresses along the path, the
sort of day too throat like, oh to me a
sore throat.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Oh well, this is what I kept saying. I kept
at least if it were a sore throat, then I
would have to cancel or whatever, right, And then towards
the end, suddenly sore throats started to sort of come.
But it was never bad. But that I had the
numbing spray and I go modern medicine is we go
to CBS. Right now you get a throat spray.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Numbing spray tastes like pisries are like what like probably
like that they're probably like the most extreme version of
not I'm menacing because I feel like they're just like
a numbing like agent. But and now just it's it's
just spray spray spray, like straight from a numbing plant
and you just put it in your throat. But you're
like weird with throat feels when you swallow, when it's
(46:14):
got that thing and it.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Feels with me meet or I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
It's like it feels like a tongue back there.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I don't like it. I have like numbness really freaks
me out. I don't like that, and it puts me
kind of an anxiety state like I when I had
when I went to a dentist who was a piece
of shit years ago, who was like fourteen years old
and experimenting on me. Yeah, that's what it felt like.
He was having all this fun injecting me with novak,
making me numb, and I was like, Hi, I was like,
(46:41):
I have a lot of anxiety around numbness, Like can
you tell me if I'm like gonna be numb or something?
And he's a He's like And then there was a
thing where I checked back later and he'd been fired
or something, and I was like, oh cool, so he
was evil. Oh God, I wish I had the.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Information right and you were open mouthed, open mouthed, he was, yeah,
a stick.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I've talked about this in the podcast. I think he
was like, I feed the nurse there and he's like,
go for it.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
I go. I don't think it's set yet.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Oh god.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Okay, So at the dentist, I go, give me more,
I go, I go, How will I know which pain
is I'm supposed to be experiencing. I know they're like,
you'll feel pressure. I'm like, what do you mean? And
I'm like, how bad would the pain be?
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I can't hear about it. I'm not prepared to hear
about it. He goes, machete in your mouth. That's how
it feels. Just imagine so with all the forces, the
force of generations pulling, the coming down with a machete
between your eyes.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
See I don't. That's not what I imagine the horrifying
pain being. I imagine more because I find I've nearly
blacked out. Slash left my body during a cleaning okay,
because of the of tooth sensitivity. And they use the
word tooth sensitivity like like it makes it sound like
it's something subtle. I would take any pain over what
they refer to as sensitivity. Oh god, it is like
(48:00):
fighting on a fork. It is like electricity. Uh it is.
I was lying there and I had to go it's
I had to say to myself, it's not pain, right
Like I was like, it's different than pain it's worse
than pain for sure, but I go, if it's not
pain and I just have to tolerate it right now,
what how do I surrender to this? And so I'm
(48:21):
telling myself like it's a sensation. It's a sensation that
I it feels like the most wrong thing is happening possible.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
I have to get my teeth cleaned, and.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
I'm like to let it kick me out of my body.
I'm like, it was like it was like wee and
then it was like I was almost like like the
feeling like.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Okay, okay, okay, that's and then I'm like.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
And then I'm like like like trying to like transcend
like basically give myself over to it, become become the
thing that was happening to me.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Like, by the way, sorry, just to end on it,
just to I mean, that's terrifying and it makes me
so uncomfortable. That's why I'm glossing over it on we Go.
But I want to just say, for those of you
who are in Los Angeles and came to my my
run of Kate at the Pasadena Playhouse, thank you so much.
And guess who came? George? Oh, and he came backstage.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Wait, George is the one who retired.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, yeah, so George came light in my life.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Best he came to see one of George's girls.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yep, George's and guess who also came George's son. Yep, okay, no,
actually not the son, but the new George, my new guy.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
No, wait, the new guy is not George's son.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
No, George's son is also a doctor.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
But no, oh, okay, I always confused. Women.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Godless came down.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
He hands them walk came.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
With his wife. It was wonderful passing it down.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
He's ceremonially. He comes into the room. He calls his
son in and the legs up in the stirrups, and
then he goes like and he angles the whole. I'm
imagining a ceremonial passing along to me. He turns the
open legs towards the sun.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Well, great to be back.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
It's great to be back.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
See you soon, Love you, love you. That was poog.
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Hi, I'm Kate Berlan, I'm Jacqueline Novak, And this is POOG,
an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends, two
untamable intellects. This is our hobby, This is our hell.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is our naked desire for free products. This is POG.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Today's topics, loosely speaking, tiny does, tiny hands, tiny medallion. Hello,
ding Dong, It's me from last year.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I know this is absolutely by the way. I mean,
I don't even know how to begin.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Heaven heaven here with you.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Heaven knows your life.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Be sorry, I don't know that well anyway, Hi, Hire,
I can't believe because to be clear, and maybe this
is already abundantly clear to the to the hags. But
we have not done a recording since the tour, and
there have been so many days where I've of course
(01:01):
missed you, been toiling, missing you, days of inspiration. I go,
this should we should be recording, you know, conversations we've had.
But it's okay. The point is that we're back.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Isn't it surreal? Because we were going to I think
what we should do is or you know, I'm thinking, oh,
a tour recap, don't move on? Yeah, yeah, well I
will say one thing, the main thing.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I mean, there will be some natural moments, of course
we will.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
We will dip back into it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Tour was explosive, and thank you everyone who came, just
to hate to hey, thanks for coming, but truly thank you.
It was unbelievable. Doesn't it feel like so long ago
that we were on tour, Jacqueline, I mean being with
you us too. Another day, another city, Christmas cackling. I
was just thinking about us trying to get meals late
(01:49):
at night, places being closed, we went, we were in
What city was that? See this is like the cliche
of the person on tour. What city was? That's all blur?
But where was it? Where the beautiful French restaurant? And
again I typically don't reach for French cuisine, but what
was the place where? We got there a minute after
they closed and it was bustling and the rude mutret
and I I could not believe it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Oh yeah I did. He said something like he said
something related to the theater.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, because I was being I go. We just got
off the stage, looking in his eyes. A couple of performers.
Come on, sir, he couldn't have cared that. That's good
for him.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Though security concerns.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Thank you to the San Francisco Proper Hotel for helping
us out. Beautiful room given.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, they did help us.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Champagne toast.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
No, it was just funny because for a second there
it almost sounded sarcastic. But I know you're going for
the exact opposite. I know it happens to be a
lot where real enthusiasm is is mistaken for disingenuous uh whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Where I'm know you're actually your heart's in it, and.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's like, actually, yeah that was authentic.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So I'm just where are you?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Celsius addictions worse than it's ever been?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Too serious? How many a day? Jacoa?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Two? Oh mys? And actually the other day I think
I did three, but still falling asleep. Yeah, you know,
like I'm I don't mean a night, I mean during
the day. I mean the receptors are gone. The receptors
are like they're like my uh inside grain receptors. Yeah,
my teeth. Now, I'm just no, you know, like I've
(03:26):
ground them down. Okay, so they're no longer like a
dog's tooth, they're flat, right. I feel like my caffeine
receptors whatever, they've been obliterated, you know, like rapen bathed.
I mean like this is, this is I'm sorry a
little bit, but I was in meditation this morning.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Whoa you heard me in seven months? And I was
on such a fucking hold.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Out the old mantra, and I am resisting. The body
is resisting because Corneal Joe Despenza, whose work I've been
doing a deep dive back into.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, you even suggest that I could use your login,
that'd be huge.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah. So the body, when the body becomes the mind. Okay,
the body is the record of the past. Okay, okay,
the bodies around the past. Okay. Cellularly, we bathe our
cells and these emotions, and then our cells are literally
addicted to them because anything you placed in the environment,
it wants more of. So then you're addicted to certain emotions.
(04:25):
And then those emotions come obviously with certain thoughts, and
then that becomes a mood, becomes a personality, it becomes
a destiny whatever. So to get into the generous present moment,
you have to the body. The body will resist. The
body just wants yesterday. Again okay, and you have to
(04:49):
say no, okay, you you have to use the crowning
achievement of the human form, the frontal lobe. Okay, and
go and.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Treat it like a stallion plastic city and go no, yeah,
and oh.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, so the body will resist. It's amazing. It's like,
isn't it wild? Just like you know, spend all night
reading about the benefits of meditation, completely excited, and then
the next morning literally kind of like.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
No, it's impossible. I mean again, thinking about myself and
maybe this summer I was on poog ranting about I'm
meditating every day. I was, Yeah, I was doing twenty
minutes twice a day. I was at a work function,
asked to be excused yes when he found an office, Yeah, yes, yeah,
and found office Hi do you mind? And I got
to kind of be the whoa, she's really went into
(05:38):
an office, a stranger's office, dim the lights, meditating, and yeah,
my greatest fear happened around minute seventeen. The door handle jiggled,
brought me out erradically into the present, and I thought,
that's okay. I was so calm. I got to the
point where I started to feel it happening noticing thoughts
and said, I can tell you I started having that
happen in my life. I started going, oh, thoughts are
(06:00):
coming up. Interesting, interesting. I started to beat that. The
observer you.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Became the awareness.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I'm back relapsed hard, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, searching. Ah, yeah,
getting it directly a joke.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
By the way, this is not a joke.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I'm going back. I'm going back to I'm doing five
days nothing starting Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
See. I just think that with you, these these these.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Extreme, these harsh extremes.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They you're comfortable with a routine of bender and then not.
I know it's become a no.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But I was doing the ten minute integration, as I
call it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yes, you were finding balance.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And I'm doing that again. I'm going to go back
ten minutes a day. That's all you get your.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Bad phone still, right, Yeah, I still have two phones.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So that's actually it's actually been a long and by
the way, thank you. You're right. It's a huge difference
not having Instagram when I'm out in the world. Huge
still having two phones.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Ah, only in your home, only in your sacred space.
I know I'm joking, but yes, okay, it's a huge thing.
That must we must on knowledge.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Okay, No, no, I was I mean, yes, but I
was moving to by the way, this thing that happened
to me today, hyper Let me don't forget the window. Okay,
hold on to the window. Okay, you're right here. And yes,
this was fed to me by Instagram. Okay, do I
recognize the irony, of course, but who cares? Okay, you ready,
(07:26):
don't you dare? Scroll? First thing in the morning in theta. Okay,
you're coming from delta to theta to beta, I think,
and then there's ranges of beta, but the point is
to go from sort of delta to you know, deep
(07:46):
low theta whatever theta. And then you open up your phone.
You are thrust violently into high beta. Okay, and it's
not good. And I forgot why it's not good, but
I know it's not good. Oh. And then the dopamine.
This is the other thing, first thing in the morning. Okay.
This high dopamine action of the scrolling, when you're in
that state sets off a addictive thing where you need
(08:09):
it all day.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Oh okay, somebody with a Hulu show liked my picture. Oh,
oh my god, what could this mean for me? Absolutely? Nothing.
I mean, it is fucking crazy. No, no, no, it's it's
completely true.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Show things I slayed in this photo.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's completely it's I was having an
incredible conversation last night and I really.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh wait, your spiritual experience looking out the window. Okay,
i'll say this morning, but wait and last night, I'm
herea ousy.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I'll just say this. Guess guess what. Guess what. I'm
going to a psychiatrist. Motherfucker. I'm getting medicated. I can't
live like this anymore. I'm getting I want to I
want to experiment with the modern eighty medication. I'm going
on a long road trip eighty two point zero the
book which I bought and of course have been unable
to read past page two. We're going to do the audiobook.
(08:59):
I'm going to see you cock sucking psychotherapist. I'm an
experiment because what because here's my fear is right, because
after all, of course more powerful than cocaine. Yeah, I'm
terrified of that. And who knows what drugs are?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Self stimulating?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Look at me, afraid at me?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Self stimulating?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
What you're doing?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, I can't tell.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm I'm using the mic, I'm using the microphones.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Web rubbing on your forehead.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
To lift my eyebrow up down.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, I want to go on a microdose. By the way,
it's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Careful, yeah, I just no, no, no, I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Say it's micro dose pills.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh, I don't guess. Let me get I don't know
what the contemporary signed on the tiny there's ever been
a flexapro.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm mocking this.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I feel like there's a thing that like women in
my family, it's like half a half a SYMBOLTI yeah, yeah,
my doctor, and it's like a wrestler, half wrestler. Okay,
and yes, now you've you've you've swallowed whole the sumer
wrestler idea and forgotten that it can from me and my.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Thought it was you. I knew it was you.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh thank god.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Don't erase me. Wait, okay, so psycho theay, so so here.
So here's here's the thing. I downloaded an app okay
that got served to me. It said I was scrolling Okay, yes,
I recognize the irony.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And it said, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Hey, imagine if you weren't scrolling O get or if
instead of scrolling, you were taking in useful information whatever.
I run to the app. Okay, I get in there.
What books are you interested in? ADHD two point zero yep,
and it starts serving me the book in kind of
a form that is sort of you just swiping across,
and there's sort of visuals and I'm not I'm not
even like I don't even think I'm like the visual
(10:39):
learner or whatever. I like can read easily. But I
was doing the app version of ADD she want to no,
it was coming and I was going yes, and I
was learning things. And I learned something within like five
minutes that I did not know about ADD, like what now?
And I remember telling Chris Chris, I learned something about
ADD that I did not know and I thought, oh
my god, I'm so excited to show Okay, forgot can't remember.
(11:00):
Oh no, wa wait, let me see if I could
find it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I mean mentally search of the brain.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
The point is the guy's got new things to say.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I'm curioused by the way. There's some pills I haven't
even heard of out there.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I know, I know, well you know about what happened
to me when I tried one of the modern pills
but I mean at this point it was eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
But weren't you vibing with their.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Friend to rone? Or I met up with our friend
a Rone and I was on the pill. It was
I forget what was called it. If you said it,
I'd remember.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And what happened.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It was another ADYD pill. It was like newer add pill.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I was on a weird one. There were shape of
little tubes. That was when I was like seventeen. I
remember there were like long tubes. I guess all pills
are tubes. No, this was different. It was no, no, no,
it was like it was not a rhombus.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It was a crazy two dimensional it's part of.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
The sea anyway. Wait, so what happened when you met
up with him? Were you tweaking?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So I was already on the thing, and I'm sitting
there in Central Park chatting and I go, wait, something
is a miss okay, And I go, it's silent in
my head. No stop, okay, go silence in there, okay.
And it was like Jesus, it was exactly like if
on the interior, if all of a sudden all the
birds stop chirping, all the you know, you know what
(12:17):
if like the equivalent of the exterior. Just everything kind
of goes silent. But it was the interior. And I
didn't realize, you know, until I was having that experience
that that is not what I'm normally experiencing, right right,
you know those like in movies when they're like, I
mean not really, I mean, I mean I was, I
(12:38):
immediately dollar signs in the eyes, going is this everything?
Is this what others have? I mean, it would make
it made me go if this is how others are living, okay,
even any of the population. I was like, then we
have nothing in common, okay, and me relating to you know, however,
(12:59):
much of the popular is like this, we are living
in a.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Completely different realities.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, different world like yeah, because I don't even think
like I'm not even like internal monologue person.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Like no, no, just I'm not like full sentences no no, no, no,
of course not France images. It's more like James Joyce
in there.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, yes, I wait, spiritual looking at the spiritual looking.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
At the window.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Last night I was on a chair talking about a
d you know, all this, and I was talking about
the relapsing on the phone, and this morning woke up,
I thought, what if I looked out the window. What
if I just turned and looked at the window, I
felt the presence of God. Okay, so true. I mean
(13:58):
truly I was like, I reach for my phone. I
see texts, right, I don't go further. I don't click
them to open them up. I turn away and I
look into the Yeah, and I just it was the
thing where I'm like, I was like to be clear, Yeah,
and if I was like if I just did this,
like it's like whatever, who fucking care? I just got
(14:21):
depressed thinking about my life.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Wait what just now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, I just got so depressed. I mean, like this
is the phone.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Spiritual, just the part on you. Just then something happened.
Were you selling a lie? Were you like?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
No, No, I wasn't. I was thinking about again this
is and this is pooh. You know it's like I
was thinking about all I thought, Yeah, I know, this
is all I have to do. I just to look
at the window every morning and and and just notice
nature and just take in even just for even spiritual
even you know people go even just for five minutes,
five minutes or six hours. Yeah, oh even just five minutes,
what five minutes?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Try ten seconds?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, try to start with ten seconds, start with ten seconds.
And the other thing, I get so hard June ten
seconds all hot. Even earlier you went like this and
I thought, even that, just take one bread, Oh my god.
But I was like, and this is the thing, like
page a day because reading now, my reading is so off.
(15:16):
I haven't read a book in month.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I was thinking about it a lot. I think about it.
I think I hear it in our head. I mean
our head, by which I meant you and me talking.
I sometimes hear in our head, I mean my head.
Kids started is happening. But I'm like lying on like
a non.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Negotiable okay, non negotiable.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And you know it's been saving me, not dragging myself.
Not television. Yeah, where I'd like to well tell you.
I can't wait to tell you about my current Hobanichi situation.
But you know, my new year, getting the special journal
that I have, remember the special daily journals and getting it,
and then you know, weeks go by. I mean like
I was, you know, Jan one through six, and you know,
(15:53):
I'm not one of these people that gets on board
for things Jan one, but the calendar starts send, so
I found myself among them. Not yeah, the first, like
eight days, I had a chart where I would fill
in a little box like yes, like I meditated, Yes
I did Tracy Anderson workout. Yes I did this is
in tract you know, like you as I sat with
the journal whatever, and it was like going and filling
(16:15):
in the blocks and whatever. And then you know, things
got a little crazy and I decide it's like if
the practice is not I don't know, two years embedded
in your body again when shit's going down, like oh,
like there's a bunch of stuff to do, it all
fucking goes and that's like like when you like, excuse yourself,
(16:38):
you know, to go do your meditation. Hm, it must
have been in your body enough that your body pushed
through on the habit.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
To wanting to make you go do it. Yeah, And
like the twenty minutes twice a day, God, that was good.
But I'm like, I just don't know if that will
ever be me again for more than a month, I know, devastating.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Well I've wondered, Kate, Yeah, I've wondered, if you know,
these fantasies of like I was reading this one book
and reading and I was listening to David Lynch is
like book catching the big fish or whatever from whenever.
And it's like he's talking about when he like found TM,
(17:20):
you know, and and like the first time he tries it,
and I'm pretty sure he said like basically he tried
it one day at the TM center, you know, and
hasn't missed a day since. Okay, now that how right? Now?
I mean how I get it? If you pull it
off for six years, you struggle for six years, and
then you get it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
There are also just three two who doesn't have ad
David Lynch. Guess who does not have a d D.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, Well what I was going to pose.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Was and for those who don't know, TM is transcendental meditation.
Keep going.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I couldn't bring I couldn't decide which way to say
it which I'm from. So so I was thinking, do
I need my teacher to recede my mantra? Okay in
my in my flesh, you know. I was like, just
need to get re uh so fuck oh here was
my thought. So you and me going, will it ever
be me for more than a month?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Are we destined to experience our on and off again life? Okay?
We can either suffer it, we can rail against it.
We can constantly be suffering. Why aren't I lynch? Right?
Or can we somehow make peace with on again off again? Right?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah? Ooh, now I like this. I like this.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Now here's where I get a little bit and you're saying,
where you start to think, this is it? This is
the answer? Yeah, the whole thing. And that's my spiritual
dollar signs where you start to go, no pain, no pain.
I figured it out if I just do five minutes
a day staring out the window, you know. Yeah, But
it's like I want to force something onto this, and
so I go. There's the whole problem that all of
these practices we've been doing are sort of masculine, psyche ideal. Okay,
(19:00):
in the union yong sense to be clear, sure you
know continuous linear, never ending, eternal okay, okay, nuclear unending
energy power, continuous straight line. Are we fighting wildly violently
and against our own best interest against the cyclical? Kate
is the problem. We're not on and off again. We're
(19:22):
not receiving the cyclical.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
God, this is good, bitch, And if we.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Could align with the cyclical, there would be room and
it would know it's not we're not.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
So I love this, This is that.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So this is I find myself three years back where
I learned this once, okay, when I was reading all
those cyclical things. And then I've also wondered at times,
are some of these meditation practices, you know, designed by
men for men? Okay, yeah, in the year whatever. And
I've even gone, do I have a feminine psyche that
(19:58):
is sitting on the rock? Like what if that really?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I've been doing this moving meditation Heartstone by Tracy Anderson. Okay,
it's recently dropped. There are these stunning things you hold
with Rose Courts, okay, and you do this work whatever.
And as we know, I experienced wild changes back when
I was doing dance. The chakras couldn'tle yoga, all that
kind of stuff. What if, you know, what if you
(20:24):
and me are trying to be good little tm and
sit down and do our thing, but we're forcing a
kind of masculine What if, for example, moving meditation was
our natural way?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
M h.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
What if what if embodied meditation was our okay, was
where it was where.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
We where the where the spiritual and the and the
grotesque met for us again, and we're like fighting it,
like like there's a prejudice against that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
There's a prejudice against like ecstatic dancing stoic.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh by the way dancing, yeah ship I had. Yeah,
that stuff's crazy. That'll get you crazy people that are
really into that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Like going going from But you don't have to just
be up, like like the Dance of the Chakras. Things
starting like stamping your feet, yeah, and the roots are
going to the ground feet feet feet. There was this
other one by shiver Rat that was incredible. An audio
program took you through. I mean when I was doing this,
I was like at another level, you know, forgot you
(21:25):
know what I mean, life happened. But Chiva Rat it
was called Shocked You Dance or something. It was like
forty five minutes long, and it whipped you from It
whipped you from you started with the roots and the
feet and the stamping and then up the up to
the knees and the knees catch fire.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It anything anything like I got down some wormhole on
Instagram where I came across this woman who's obsessed with
like jade vaginal jade eggs. And this is the whole
thing of like the Kuta manifestation. It's in your pussy
and she's like, oh, pussy will bring anything that you want. Yeah,
and she's like to do this thing and she's like it's
(22:01):
all very straight though she's like the cock. I'm like,
oh God, Like she's just really but she's like she's
talking about. And then she's this woman who's like, I,
my pussy knows everything. She's like, I'll be She talks
about like she's a job at a warehouse and she's like,
I get down the ols of the warehouse. My pussy
knows which which I'll just turn down, Like I'll listen.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
This is incredible.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And I was like very interested in. And then this
woman who's like talks about and does she use the
word pussy. Yeah. And this woman who's in it, who's like, yeah,
I've been training with a jade egg whatever. She's like,
I gave birth. It was pure, there's no pain. I
was coming the whole time.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
No, okay, it's orgasmic birth with you.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I was like, that was actually an early stand up
bit of mine, really early.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You want to it's genius Jason or whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I love you so much. I can't believe you remember that.
I mean, it's it's horrendous. I was talking about coming
on like my son's head or whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It's like horrific phenomenal is one of the key reasons
that I recognize your greatness.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Oh my god, thank you. I remember doing that. I
remember that was a specific bit I did. Or like
a manager, like like a like a sleazy manager with
the business car was like, yeah, yeah, I ditch that stuff.
But it's like, no, you got something, you got something,
But I wouldn't do that stuff. Yeah, but uh, oh
my god.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, but this woman's like talking about I mean, while
I'm worried, I'm like, save it, save it, leap it
all out, and I'm going to create your next special
around it.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But yeah, but she's talking about, you know, paying during birth,
loving it coming the whole time. Now I'm like, in
my mind, I'm like cervical orgasms, Like that's the big
that's like the thing this woman's talking about. And this
other girls talk and now I squirt from kissing. I
was like, well, I actually don't want that. I don't
want to be like making out and be like drenching. Yeah,
a surface. But this woman is.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Being served this like this, Oh I've not been warehouse.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's this guy that I follow on Instagram who I
saw visually in Airwan and I saw him and I
kind of was like, oh my god, it's him, And
then like a vision looked at me. I saw him
in the yam aisle and by the yam basket.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And yam isle for caper lamb. I know, you know
it looks like you ask a mechanic, I'll give you
a hammer. Right, It's always yams, You're always I know.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
So I looked at I looked at him, and it
was that thing where he looked at me, and I thought,
does he know, like, is there a world where somehow
he got into poog like because I maybe liked something,
you know, I'm just like in some.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
World does he or is he just looking at me?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You know, because he was looking No, it wasn't he's
looking at It was like our eyes met pussy knew
yah his pussy like truly and it was like he
and he does the whole thing about I don't even
know what his thing. Oh I saw jetones and no, no,
but that's how he got to the jade stone. Pussy
on what's this through I saw she called the jade stone.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Sorry, yeah, yeah, you were saying, like her being like
the cock like yeah, like the j stone, the just
the jade stone. Because I remember back in the days
in the crystal shops, Okay, it would be like there
were these egg it's an egg, you know, egg shaped stone.
But sometimes they would be like that's that's they basically
(25:26):
would be like sometimes they'd act like that was like
the word egg has foundine connotation and like uh uh
not vestibule vessel connotation. But then they're like, but oh,
I know what it was. It was like it was
like shivellingum or something. Okay, wait, let me see. And
there were it was like it contains some masculine and
(25:46):
the feminine because they're like, it's a stone, you have
the stone object, particularly if they're putting it in themselves.
Is that not kind of penetrative energy or are they
acting like you're putting the stone and you are the egg.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I have no fucking idea, is the answer. I think
it's about like kegle muscle training. But then of course
the streak because like and it you know, it's a
good rey reproductive health of like m you know, it's
like all this stuff. And then Gwenna came in trouble.
The jade egg was like the thing that was synonymous
with why Goop was like a laughing stock because like
Gwenna had to pay out. I think she had to
(26:22):
pay out for it some claim on the Goop website
about the jade egg or something, and I'm, well, we'll
do the research, are we won't? But there was something
it was like I think she had to actually pay
And then yeah, this girl talking about shooting Why is
this the big thing people want to do? Oh yeah,
I started shooting ping pongs out of my pussy. Like what.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You're like, why is that the well? Like why is
I mean knowing nothing, but like is must childbirth be painless?
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Like totally right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
If you want to do you accept the claim?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I don't know. It's like there is I know, not
of what I speak.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
There is definitely there is a connection between sexual energy
and the crave energy or whatever, like for sure, but
it's like I don't know these women with their ping pongs,
I just I just can't get behind it.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
But it's just putting the energy into the ping pong. Okay,
how is it getting into your art? Like yeah, it's
bouncing against the wall like if you're exactly. That's what
I mean, like you shooting the ping pole. You're not
like starting a business where you're like, you're not like
manifesting a business. It's like you've made You've made manifest
(27:40):
I mean, I remember doing belly dancing video that I
really enjoyed and frankly should get back into. And I
can't remember her name right now, it'll come to me,
but you know, we're working hips, and you know, she'd
say these things that if someone passed by the room
they would hear and laugh, you know, but like you know,
like you know the power and the hips, the power
(28:01):
and the hips, and we're kind of like are we
talking symbolically what's going on? And like you can and
shaking the hips and.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
There's a lot to do.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Weird, it's weird. It's it's like if you go through
a period where I don't know, everything is as meaningful
as it is to the person. You know, It's like
the ping pong balls could be a symbolic act of
whatever that lets them monder.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
No God blood, truly, I'm like, great, great, And this
woman is talking about how now she gives her husband
hand jobs with her pussy. I was like what she's like.
She's like she's like my and she's like, my husband
loves my pussy. Now I was like great, Like sorry,
I had to go through a twelve course ping pong
course to get him on board. But and it's like
she's like, he says, it feels like a thousand hands,
(28:55):
like jerking him.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
A thin hands.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, and I'm like, show us the husband's I want
to see these motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Well, yeah, I saw this. I saw this. I saw
this thing. It was what was it about facial massage
or something, you know, And I mean it's like my
life is like about like all I am on Instagram
is lymphatic drainage, facial massage, facial exercise. It's like that's
(29:30):
my hobby apparently, and I'm trying to understand it. But
oh yeah, I'm really listening of opening up okay, pumping
the pumping the armpits, what's that ten times? Because that's
the ultimate where like the limb ultimately, I think that's
like where it dumps it in deliver or something, okay,
to move the ship out. The arm pits are like
(29:51):
the final stop, I think, Okay. And then and then there'stermany,
which is under the collarbone and under from above. I mean, okay,
and you get pumped this to open this up. And
then so any any of the lymphatic drainage, you got
to pump these terminy okay, right here okay. And so
it's like very appealing idea, like warm it up, warm
(30:12):
it up. And I've been pumping all.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Those guys to I don't like pumping the limp. It
just makes me want to throw up.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So wait, hold on, hold on, and we take me back.
Oh the husband's oh yeah, So she's like it was
like and like you know, of course so focused on
the result that I don't notice sort of the meaning.
And then finally I did. I was like it was
a meditation, but I was like, she's like, my husband
thought i'd gotten a facelift. Okay, but what you did.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And it's like instead after.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
No or after you know, lymphatic drainage or whatever like
or like you know, after I did these exercises for
two weeks.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Okay, your husband doesn't know you're you don't like.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
He thinks you might have gotten a facelift. So where's
your husband?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well that's always the question.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
How often do you see the man? Yeah, like did
you get a facelift. You know what I'm saying. I mean,
it's it's just.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
So devastating. You're like, no, you just haven't looked at
me in years. Yeah, you've glanced in direction, see anything?
God damn, yes, honey, I did take that to the end.
What's the logical end? Yeah, exactly. Well, you were out
with the boys. I was getting a facelift. Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
He didn't see me for two weeks. Yeah, you know,
I was recovering. I've been leaning the neck.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I gotta go back in.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Actually no, I can't say I've been doing it with
a ferrocity. I've been, but when I'm watching the tube,
I sort of lay it somewhere.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But you're watching those days and a good jolles.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I just finished True Detective.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
God, I listen. I turned on episode one because I
got excited of it. Okay, great, we all remember the
goofiest thing on Earth, which I guess everyone talks about.
I've missed the discourse entirely. But I was also amazed,
like they're both playing straight women. It's like really dark,
like when that one is like writing that guy's dick.
I was like, waitit, wait what poor Jodie's like she
(32:27):
says something. She's like, oh god, I love God. She's
like it's something. I'm just like, it's so crazy. What
are you guys doing? Oh people are such senile losers.
Making both of them a straight is so weird.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Well, I don't want to give anything away.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Oh wait, doesn'tthing go down? Go down?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I wish?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Okay, that would have been great.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
No, but but but one of the characters does say
that she's had girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Okay, I say she's a single.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
A single line of dialogue is thrown to the wolves.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I won't say anything about the show, but I did
ultimately very much.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Enjoy It's supernatural.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well it can be read two ways.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Cool cool, which I was watching again that the first episode,
and it's so funny when she shows like that, try
to be funny, like it just never works, Like every
joke bombs hard, Like what was it? It was something like yeah,
well uh, or what is it? I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Is it a character who's supposed to be funny?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
But there was something we're supposed to go there? There
was something this thing of like or it's like when
something's written by people who are I say it with
respect old and they're trying to say something about the
current culture. Like there's a character who's like has like
his phone set up ostensibly to record some kind of
TikTok video or front facing video, and it's like, whoever
wrote this or something has no idea what this actually
looks like. It's like a character making a sandwich. He's like, hey, guys,
(33:48):
what's up today, And it's just like this isn't even.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's based on It's like
they wrote it based on another television show that had
that character in it, which was based out like no
one actually needs to see a person making a ticktock,
although I did see someone driving down the street in
Los Angeles, like I saw like full on almost like that,
you know the cliche, you know when you like think
(34:13):
the cliche isn't and then you come across like like
someone like taking it again, you know, like taking the
good again, and then like I'm here in.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Front of them and they're absolutely out there. I was
thinking about I'm just hold.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
On, I'm getting going into a full split. I've been
going in studio.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I'm coming, by the way, I email Tracy. I emailed
the website going hello because I was like, I want
to come in for a private to like learn the ropes.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, that response interesting.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
See if you can pull some strings for me.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, I think you just got to go to book
class and then you hit on private. Let's say I'm
coming you see in my in my distance.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
My ass is going up to my shoulders by the summer.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It's always about you always think your ass needs to
be lifted. It's never been anywhere but high flying.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I've actually been having kind of a healing experience with
my ass. Lely, I feel about like.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
It's always like get a new ass by January with
you always. I brought this up before, but it's always
like I need a new ass. I never think about
it's just behind me. Wow, it's in the dust, it's
in the wind.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I literally never think like about my.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That's also because you don't have the pain that I have.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
It's like my lower the pain brings you to it
and then vanity follows.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Well just that I can't do the stuff that you
can probably do.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Oh no, I just mean in my life hip issues,
I don't know, I just don't think about it that much.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Okay, A what time do you go to the studio.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
It varies six thirty sometimes PM. Yeah ten Jesus, can
you imagine? But yeah, I'd get into like some seven
am practice if I could rediscover the early morning when
I say ree to suggest that I've ever really known it,
But imagine knowing dawn. Imagine knowing dawn like it's your life.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I know. Well, I was thinking about this about Lacey
Phillips or is it Yeah, I want to say Lacy Peters.
I know Lacy Phillips, the magnetic woman, and how she
wakes up at dawn and then she got My big
obsession about her is that she once the sun is setting,
she turns off all No more screens in the house,
no more artificial lights, all candles.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
We've talked about this, Yes, because I've done. I have
my digital version, which is still better than most, because
I have a little battery operated candles that turn on
at like five thirty. Yeah, I got to recharge them.
I mean I got to put my new rechargeable battery.
And then that's the one thing that Oh, as usual,
I asked rated my own saliva, which a classic Well
(36:42):
what'll take me in the end? Oh, I'm thinking of
ordering the straw I saw this thing that goes onto
a straw. It trains you in getting your tongue against
the roof of your mouth like mewing, and all the
benefits and breathing. It's marketed as an anti snoring thing,
but in general it does everything. And I want it.
I want it, I want it. It's huge. And then
(37:04):
the other thing I'm I'm kind of wanting what I
refuse to pay. Yeah, so you know the MF stuff right,
Oh no, it's a bad rabbit hole. Right if you
go down that, you're just like, okay, we're all.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I had a friend recent that was like, you don't
have em F blockers on your phone? Like are you insane?
And I almost know yeah, and they do. Yeah, I'm
a texture right now?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Is it like the little disc?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I don't know. I'm a texture right now.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Because your text text. I'd like a personal wreck on
this because what so I get served one. It's a
little medallion you wear around your neck to protect you
from electromagnetic stair frequencies.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Full medallion ridiculous? What full?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Julian Moore and safe? You know, like it's a film.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't think i've seen it.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
You haven't seen Safe as Wild. You have to see
Safe tonight.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Is it old?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yes, it's Tod Haines.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Oh my god. No, I haven't seen that, Jacqueline.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I'm wordless, right Okay, when you were saying Safe hasn't
seen it?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Okay, incredible s a f So it's poog.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
It's poo.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
So the medallion, I see it.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
We should do merch. That's poog. But in the Safe Genius. Wow,
this is actually hekay?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I mean I say that already sold. I know I
heard you know. It's my favorite film.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
And don't forget merches live folks. The merch company has
been tough, so sorry. If you've had any issues, let
us know. But by the merch.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
If anyone wants to wildly revolutionize the merch industry, partner
partner with me. Okay, I have my ideas about that
tiny medallion. I have trouble believing that the tiny medallion.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Ye, you should have trouble believing that. That's I do.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I can't buy it. I can get into it. But
then here was the problem for me, So I go,
I go, fuck it, I'm buying it. I don't care. Okay,
it's fake. They clicked the medallion. Yeah, I click through
the link, and it's one of these endless scroll which
is so like two thousand and two infomercial, but on
a web page, which is you scroll, they make you scroll.
(39:12):
You're trying to get to purchase. It's it's really actually
like sick. It's like this thing where because you can't
get to the purchase button and see how much it is,
you're almost like more invested, okay, and you just keep
going scrolling, scrolling, and you're like it's and they do
this thing where they lay out this is like classic.
They lay out like what it should cost?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Oh right, They're like it should be because.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You're getting for a two thousand dollars for you know,
two hundred and eighty six okay or some random number.
And then like and if you buy it now, you know,
in the next ten minutes, you know, apps knock another
four million. Not if I come back to your website tomorrow,
I'm not gonna be offered the same whatever it's it's
(39:52):
And so I go, why are they doing Like why
are they doing this cheeseball marketing technique that is completely
entirely in o associated with like bullshit products, Like you're
telling me there's science here and then you're you're doing
this version of the buy now. I know exactly, and
I had to back out. I had to exit my
(40:13):
ass out.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
You backed out. Good for you. I'm glad you bought it.
And here I am yearning, Oh I have. I was
humbled deeply because about three weeks ago I got the
common cold, and I had.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
You forgot it was a three days ravaganza. I had
to tell you, like, it's like two weeks of your life.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Men, it was two weeks. It was two weeks. I
was doing a show. Okay, I was doing eight shows
a week, seven or eight shows a week. I was
never I never had to cancel show. It was never
to the point where I but there was a there
was There was one day, by the way, I had
a matinee, I drank, I did, I took Dave cool
and had a Celsius and I was wow tripping and
(40:52):
I got off stage and I was like, I actually
can't drive. I had to have someone drive me because
I was like, yeah, yeah, it was crazy. But the cold,
the way the common cold humbles you, I couldn't believe
it because here I am, I've been knock on wood.
I've had this incredible kind of immune system and fending
and I've been doing it got me, It got me,
(41:13):
And by the way, I was deeply grateful. It wasn't COVID,
you know, as far as I know, testing whatever. But
the way when health returns, holy shit, Yeah, when health returns,
and I was saying, I was saying, I was like
a day of health. Any day of good health is
like the almost unblievballe blessing from God imaginable, right, And
it really is true. It's like there's nothing even and
(41:34):
even just a a sore throat or it's like when
the health returns, you're like, oh my God, and every
every other thing you aspire for or you know, it's
like all desires fade when the health returns. Yeah, you're
just like, oh.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Anyway, no, I'm just like built and immediately take it
for granted. And within a day's time.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
It's like here, I'm thinking about the beginning of the
episode of right Us. Oh here I maximized. If you
have health, you have everything. And it's the cock sucking truth. Yeah,
I don't care how many hand jobs you're giving your
husband inside your pussy. It's like for those of us
just joining Yeah, but and I'll post on the grand
(42:19):
for fun the wellness subblemans I was taking but I couldn't.
I still do think it was the kind of cold
where if I could just have stayed in bed, I
would have been fine after four days. But because I
was working well remember rest for you, what was it
I can't.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
You're like, I can't heal because I'm draining my energy,
and I lay stage and I go, don't think of
it as draining your energy. You know, you know you're
doing your your art. Think of it as like the
show heels. Well.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I started saying, yeah, the show heels, because like there
was one night where I was like, there's really only
one time where I kind of was like the product
is suffering. There was one show where you could hear
it in my voice and I just felt kind of
low energy, and I was like, I don't like this
because I'm just not giving my best show. But then
I came off stage and I felt better, and I said,
I turned to my stage manager. I said, the show heels.
(43:04):
The show heels because doing it at least takes you
out of it.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Also that as performers, okay, the body is a reality, right,
and the bodies effect on the so called product. The
body cannot be removed from the product. Okay, So instead
of seeing it as your cold was making the product suffer, it's.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Like you your body is the product, that.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Is the product because it is right. It's like look, look,
look vocal power.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Here, she comes, she gets business. Yeah, sure, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
It's like, okay, like it's like sure you know, like yeah,
like don't don't get a cold, you know, but when
it's there.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Well, by the way, something else happened. But I know
you'll relate to this strange you for it because I
am so paranoid about a hyperfix. Say I'm not getting sick,
just kind of generally I have fear. Of course COVID
exacerbated this, but it's like the common cold anything. I'm
like really like, I will be completely if somebody sniffles
around me and like get the fuck out of here,
and I really find it, like I do deep. The
(44:14):
thing I'm judgmental of most it's all the people who
are sick and in public or I mean, like you
know the things that you're at. We've talked about this,
but it's like you've been sitting next to one at
dinner party all night and they go, I'm going to
duck out early, and I'm not feeling well actually, like
I'm kind of fighting this cold. Like cool, I'm so glad.
Yeah that your bag at was spread across my mouth
the whole night.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
I love the way you shared your bread with me
and your poor choicest I mean, it's just upon your fingers.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
But but but this thing that I have been fearing happened.
And again it wasn't a severe case. Okay, yeah, but
I was like, there is something. They go, oh, this
is what I've been fearing, and I'm okay, right, it's
kind of.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
The true medicine for caper lance illness. No, but it's
a land in the center of the storm where there's
a stray.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I did a strong and brave okay. People around me
were going, wow, I can't believe it. Really, know, you're
really you're not canceling shells, You're doing it. I go,
you know what, it's not a fucking migraine, and anything
is tolerable because I'm so used to living with their
kind of pain. It's like, oh, if this were a migraine, right,
like that would make me want to actually cry. There
was once I had the cold and I felt like
I was gonna cry because I would just felt like,
(45:21):
but yeah, if it's not a migraine, I'm like all right,
Like I.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Find like the cold. The worst part is the sort
of day too, if it progresses along the path, the
sort of day too throat like, oh to me a
sore throat.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Oh well, this is what I kept saying. I kept
at least if it were a sore throat, then I
would have to cancel or whatever, right, And then towards
the end, suddenly sore throats started to sort of come.
But it was never bad. But that I had the
numbing spray and I go modern medicine is we go
to CBS. Right now you get a throat spray.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Numbing spray tastes like pisries are like what like probably
like that they're probably like the most extreme version of
not I'm menacing because I feel like they're just like
a numbing like agent. But and now just it's it's
just spray spray spray, like straight from a numbing plant
and you just put it in your throat. But you're
like weird with throat feels when you swallow, when it's
(46:14):
got that thing and it.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Feels with me meet or I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
It's like it feels like a tongue back there.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I don't like it. I have like numbness really freaks
me out. I don't like that, and it puts me
kind of an anxiety state like I when I had
when I went to a dentist who was a piece
of shit years ago, who was like fourteen years old
and experimenting on me. Yeah, that's what it felt like.
He was having all this fun injecting me with novak,
making me numb, and I was like, Hi, I was like,
(46:41):
I have a lot of anxiety around numbness, Like can
you tell me if I'm like gonna be numb or something?
And he's a He's like And then there was a
thing where I checked back later and he'd been fired
or something, and I was like, oh cool, so he
was evil. Oh God, I wish I had the.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Information right and you were open mouthed, open mouthed, he was, yeah,
a stick.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I've talked about this in the podcast. I think he
was like, I feed the nurse there and he's like,
go for it.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
I go. I don't think it's set yet.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Oh god.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Okay, So at the dentist, I go, give me more,
I go, I go, How will I know which pain
is I'm supposed to be experiencing. I know they're like,
you'll feel pressure. I'm like, what do you mean? And
I'm like, how bad would the pain be?
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I can't hear about it. I'm not prepared to hear
about it. He goes, machete in your mouth. That's how
it feels. Just imagine so with all the forces, the
force of generations pulling, the coming down with a machete
between your eyes.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
See I don't. That's not what I imagine the horrifying
pain being. I imagine more because I find I've nearly
blacked out. Slash left my body during a cleaning okay,
because of the of tooth sensitivity. And they use the
word tooth sensitivity like like it makes it sound like
it's something subtle. I would take any pain over what
they refer to as sensitivity. Oh god, it is like
(48:00):
fighting on a fork. It is like electricity. Uh it is.
I was lying there and I had to go it's
I had to say to myself, it's not pain, right
Like I was like, it's different than pain it's worse
than pain for sure, but I go, if it's not
pain and I just have to tolerate it right now,
what how do I surrender to this? And so I'm
(48:21):
telling myself like it's a sensation. It's a sensation that
I it feels like the most wrong thing is happening possible.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
I have to get my teeth cleaned, and.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
I'm like to let it kick me out of my body.
I'm like, it was like it was like wee and
then it was like I was almost like like the
feeling like.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Okay, okay, okay, that's and then I'm like.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
And then I'm like like like trying to like transcend
like basically give myself over to it, become become the
thing that was happening to me.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Like, by the way, sorry, just to end on it,
just to I mean, that's terrifying and it makes me
so uncomfortable. That's why I'm glossing over it on we Go.
But I want to just say, for those of you
who are in Los Angeles and came to my my
run of Kate at the Pasadena Playhouse, thank you so much.
And guess who came? George? Oh, and he came backstage.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Wait, George is the one who retired.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, yeah, so George came light in my life.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Best he came to see one of George's girls.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yep, George's and guess who also came George's son. Yep, okay, no,
actually not the son, but the new George, my new guy.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
No, wait, the new guy is not George's son.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
No, George's son is also a doctor.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
But no, oh, okay, I always confused. Women.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Godless came down.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
He hands them walk came.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
With his wife. It was wonderful passing it down.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
He's ceremonially. He comes into the room. He calls his
son in and the legs up in the stirrups, and
then he goes like and he angles the whole. I'm
imagining a ceremonial passing along to me. He turns the
open legs towards the sun.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Well, great to be back.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
It's great to be back.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
See you soon, Love you, love you. That was poog.
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