Season One: What We Learned and What’s Next

After 56 weeks, dozens of guests, and one full season of Post Run High, Kate and Jeremy sit down to reflect on what actually changed.

In this season-ending conversation, they look back on a year of movement-fueled interviews — what surprised them, what didn’t work, and what it really took to build a podcast from scratch. They share how Post Run High grew out of the Running Interview Show, why movement consistently leads to more honest conversations, and what they’ve learned from talking with founders, athletes, artists, journalists, and performers.

Together, they unpack the biggest themes that emerged across the season: discipline before glamour, reinvention as a true superpower, and how movement helps navigate both success and setback. Kate and Jeremy also look ahead to Season 2, sharing what’s next for the show alongside personal life updates, including marriage and major transitions.

A reflective, behind-the-scenes conversation about consistency, curiosity, and why some of the best insights come after the run.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today is the last episode of season one of our podcast.
We have been posting one episode a week for fifty
six weeks. We have interviewed six award winning journalists, thirteen founders,
six elite athletes, ten musicians. We also completed the Wicked trifecta.
When you guys are watching our running interview show, you're
only seeing a three minute version of what often is

(00:22):
an hour long conversation. Post run High was born as
a way to show you guys, more of our conversations
and also to capitalize on that post run or workout
endorphins rush that you feel only after you move your body.
We're talking about three things. First is what we have
learned through season one, what we're going to be doing

(00:43):
in season two, and then just talking about our life
updates as well. Hi guys, it's your host, Kate Max.
Thank you so much for tuning in to today's episode.
Your support truly allows us to keep growing the show
and bringing you conversations we can learn from together. I
am so excited for what next season, starting in January,

(01:03):
has in store for us. If you've been enjoying the podcast,
please make sure to follow us wherever you listen and
feel free to connect with us on social at Post
run High and my personal account at Kate Max. We
always love hearing from you. After this short break, we
will get into our season one Rapped. What's up, guys,

(01:27):
Welcome back to Post Run High. I just went for
a little three mile solo run and did a bit
of a workout after, so my endorphins are flowing. I'm
feeling good, and I am just so excited for us
to get into today's season one Rapped episode. So Yes,
today is the last episode of season one of our podcast,

(01:48):
and it is so crazy to say that since we
have been posting one episode a week for fifty six weeks.
So yes, season one went on for a little bit
over one year. But that does not mean we are
stopping filming. We have a very busy December ahead of
us as we gear up for season two, which we
will be launching in January. So thank you guys so
much for your support this past year as we have

(02:10):
taken on this podcasting journey. It has been such a
learning experience for me and my team, and your faith
in us is the reason we are able to continue
doing this show for season two. I have personally found
so much purpose in being able to go deeper with
our guests after our runs, and we are just so
excited to keep growing these conversations with you, and we're

(02:33):
so excited to bring on guests we can learn from together.
And I will dive more into what I mean by
that in a few minutes, but first I just want
to say people always ask me why I started this show,
and since it is just you and I here for
a little bit, I figured let's talk about it. So
first of all, the post run High podcast would not

(02:53):
exist without the Running interview show, which is how I
got my start on social media. Back in twenty twenty three.
My husband and I had the idea to create a
show where movement and conversation could exist together. And I
talk about this a lot, but Running has always been
the place where I think clearly and where I can
get really honest with myself. And what Jeremy and I

(03:15):
realized is that other people open up the same way
when they're moving. And we are actually going to have
a psychologist on soon in season two that is going
to dive into this phenomena a little bit more with us.
That person may or may not be my mother in law,
but Jeremy and I brainstormed together and we thought to ourselves,
what if we captured that phenomena on camera, and what

(03:37):
if we let people be themselves, let them be out
of breath, you know, unpolished in motion and on a
run or a walk with me leading the conversation. And
then after almost two years of doing the running interview show,
we started having the urge to go deeper with our guests.
And when you guys are watching our running Interview show,
you're only seeing a three minute version of what often

(04:00):
is an hour long or thirty minute long running or
walking conversation. So post Run High was born as a
way to show you guys more of our conversations and
also to capitalize on that post run or workout indorphins
rush that you feel only after you move your body.
And so that is a very simplified version of how
post Run High was born. Not to mention our team

(04:23):
having to also learn how to use all of this
production gear, build a set in Brooklyn and build sets
across the country whenever we are filming on the go.
We film a lot of episodes on the go and
meet people where they are and also learn all the
things that go into post production, which I could spend
hours talking about, and guys, we have definitely not mastered
any of this yet, but we've had a lot of

(04:45):
fun learning along the way and just challenging ourselves to
figure it out with our tiny team of people help them.
And speaking of our studio in Brooklyn, I have to
say this because this is one of the last times
you guys are going to see me here in our
Brooklyn studio for a few months, because we are heading
to la for the winter because a it is freezing
in New York and b after almost three years of

(05:07):
doing our Running Interview Show, I have learned that it
is very hard to convince people to go for runs
in sub thirty degree fahrenheit weather. And if I'm being
totally honest, as I've gotten older, I feel the same way.
I used to be a little psycho that could run
in freezing cold weather, I could run in the snow,
and now I have to say that with my lifetime membership,

(05:27):
I've gotten a little bit spoiled and a little bit comfortable,
and it's very hard for me to run outside. So yes,
we will be filming both the Running Interview Show and
post run high out in La through the end of February,
and then we're going to be spending a week in Austin,
Texas to also film the show, and then finally making
our way home to New York City for the foreseeable future.
Because guys, I have a very big life update, probably

(05:50):
my biggest, that we will get to at the end
of this episode with Jeremy, and it's going to require
me to hunker down for a little bit here in
New York and you guys are actually going to be
the first people to know about it today. So for
today's episode, without further ado, Jeremy, come on, come on,
come on, come on. We're talking about three things said

(06:10):
it in the beginning of the episode. First is what
we have learned through season one, what we're going to
be doing in season two, and then just talking about
our life updates as well. Well.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Kate, thank you so much for having me. I've overheard
this show so many times.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Jeremy Warden, welcome to post run high.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
How are you feeling well? While you were running earlier,
I was doing Soto Soto method app which Hillary Hillary Hoffman,
that's her name, got a good thing going on, And yeah,
I didn't run, but I'm feeling good.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, Jeremy and I have found One of our personal
twenty twenty five updates is that we have like fallen
in love with Soto Method. And I felt really lucky
because I actually got to do a video with Hillary Hoffman,
who is the founder of Sodo.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Method and running video.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, yes, we did a running I ever on the
podcast though you should. Yeah, she's awesome.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I'm a fan. I feel like it's like when people
are fans of Peloton instructors. Yeah, I never I never
was on the Peloton bandwagon, but I'm on the Sodo app.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I love Sodo Method. I love all the instructors that
are in her studio and also on the app. It's
so cool to see them in person and then also
do the app. So for people listening, we just have
to set some contexts here. Sodo Method is an in
studio workout class in New York City that also has
an app. The same instructors that are teaching in studio
teach on the app. The classes are exactly the same.

(07:38):
So I love it because it's way more affordable than
going to the class all the time. Although I do
like to treat myself a couple times a month to
going to the class in person, saying hi to the
instructors because they have become like a little fitness family
for me and the city, and I like going and
working out with friends. Obviously I'm a big workout with
a friend or a buddy type of person. Anyways, it's

(08:00):
a really great app. I actually was at the gym
today after my run doing a quick thirty minute Sodo
session which I did not make it all the way through,
so whatever. But the girl that was also in the
same studio as me, I noticed, was doing a Sodo
Method workout class too, So it's.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Gonna blow up. I mean, I must say I am
when I go to those classes. I I'm the only guy,
and when I'm on the app, there are not a
lot of well actually I don't think there are any
male instructors on the app, but I still do it.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Honestly, there should be. I feel like they should get
a couple guys because it's such a good workout for
girls and guys, and I see guys in the class
all the time.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
When Hilary comes on the pod, well this discussion.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, maybe Jeremy will be the first Sodo Method male
instructor dream come true. Do you think you could teach
a Sodo method class? No? Do you think you understand
the format? Though?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
At this point I get it, and I think what
I like about it is it's very time efficient, Like
you can go on the app and I know today,
sorry we didn't, I didn't come on to talk about
the soda, but here we are. But like you can,
there's five minute classes, ten minute classes, fifteen, twenty, twenty five, thirty,
thirty five, forty, all the way up to an hour.
So for me, like today, I went down, I was

(09:11):
on the treadmill a little bit and then I was like,
all right, I got to call in thirty five minutes.
All right, I'm gonna do a thirty minute Soto. So
I like that. It's like super time efficient.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, super time efficient. And I know you mentioned Peloton before.
I'm also a big fan of Peloton, and during COVID,
I was like doing Peloton spin classes every single day.
I was doing a lot of just their like Matt
workout classes, and they also are really efficient with timing,
like they do ten minute, twenty minute whatever workouts. And
it's funny because I feel like during COVID, I didn't.

(09:43):
I didn't totally understand the like the purpose behind like
a fifteen minute workout. You know. I was kind of like, well,
that's not a real workout. But now as I've gotten older,
I'm like, and if I don't have that much time
in a day and I only have fifteen minutes, Like,
there's something about those fifteen minute classes is that actually
are great and still make you feel good. And I
think it just goes to show that any amount of

(10:05):
movement throughout a day, whether you have five minutes or
ninety minutes, it still makes you feel good just to
move your body.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I remember when you had the knee surgery following was
that the last time you ran the New York City Marathon?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yep, the last time I ran the New York City Marathon?
Oh God, should we tell the whole story?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Let's tell story?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Oh go, we're here for again, the last time, the
last time I ran the New York City marathons.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
The post run high fam today, Yeah, they can learn it,
and I.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Promise guys, we have a set schedule for today's for
today's episode, but whatever, we'll riff for a little bit.
But Jeremy and I had gone out in August to
see your brother in Colorado. It was the first time
I was meeting your older brother, Alex. And you are
going to be able to do a better job explaining Alex.
So maybe you kind of explain your brother and then
I'll tell you. He's like he's in the army. He's

(10:57):
an adrenaline junkie. He is very much so a risk taker,
and I think that's because he had cancer when he
was a kid, and now he's somebody that just like
sees life in a different way and it takes things
to the extreme. And so basically the first day we
got to Colorado, he took us on this hike on

(11:18):
basically the side of the highway. It was like an
unmarked trail. It was kind of like if you're on
the highway driving in a car, you know those moments
where you're.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Like, also known as a mountain. Okay, took up a.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Mountain mountain, Yes, but I'm like, but I just want to.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Got there by the highway to get.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
There, Okay. But for the girls and the guys listening,
this is like how I would explain it. Do you
know those times when you're driving on the highway and
you're kind of just like in the car in your
you're in your own thoughts and you're just like looking
up at the mountains that you're passing while driving and
thinking to yourself, could I climb that? Like that is
exactly what we did. We climbed one of those and
we did it out there.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't have to use your hands. It was a legit.
It wasn't like we you know when you see the
videos and people have the shoes that like so somehow
clip into the mountain and they have a hook on
their hand that they they reach up and grab and pull.
It wasn't like that. But there were parts where you
actually had to like use your hands and like kind
of crawl upwards.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, I honestly could have used It was mostly it.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Was mostly a walk hike. Yeah, But then we got
to the top. I remember just thinking like, oh and
we wanted to catch the sunset. So we got to
the top. Beautiful sunset. Amazing. It was a very beautiful moment.
I think it was a good moment for for all
of our our relationship. Uh, and then it was a
terrible moment for for our relationship because cake Gate goes. Okay,

(12:34):
so like where's the where's the stairs down?

Speaker 1 (12:37):
No, No, I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well, I think I actually honestly said that. I looked
at Alex and I was like, all right, where's the
easy route, Like, what's the easy path down? He was like,
you go down the same way you come up, And
I was just like what.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
And guys, we were like scrambling up this mountain. It
was like basically little teeny pebbles that are like impossible
to not just trip on. So you're literally on all fours,
like I don't know, bear climb up this mountain. And
then we had to go back down it. And keep
in mind that we were up there to see the sunset,
and then all of a sudden, the sun set.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
And it was dark.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
It was pitch black. And when it's pitch black in
the mountains in Colorado, it's pitch black. You can't see
a thing. So we had our flashlights on our phone.
We're going down this like pebbly steep mountain and I
wipe out.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
You're like sliding.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I was literally sliding out on my butt because I
don't have an acl in my right knee because I
tore it. You guys know the story. But but basically
I've torn my ACL twice, never got surgery the second time.
Now I do everything without an ACL, but my limitations
are that I can't do any lateral movement. Partner not
a good pickle buck I can't do anything Like I
can't ski, I can't do any side to side movement,
and knocked me out of sports when I was in

(13:45):
high school. But anyway, so as we're going down this trail,
I'm like very aware of my surroundings. If I'm on
a slippery surface, if I'm in a slippery bar, if
I'm at the beach when you're walking on sand, like,
I just have to be very aware of like where
I'm stepping, because if you make the wrong move without
an ACL, where you can't your body can't do lateral movement,
your knee will buckle and it's really uncomfortable. And if

(14:07):
you're somebody that's experienced having your knee buckle, or maybe
you don't have any sale or you've torny resale, you
know what this means or feels like, and it's awful.
But again I've gotten good at knowing what to not
do to avoid that happening. So of course I'm going
down this mountain it's like pebbly slippery whatever. I'm on
all fours, kind of like reverse bear climbing. Like what
would it be like a crab walk. I was crab

(14:28):
walking down the mountain and sliding, and then I think.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's that's that's the service to the crab calling that
a crab walk.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
It's a crab walk, right, I'm just trying to like
it's like the opposite of a barre walk, where you're
kind of like the opposite way, but your body's inverted.
But it was a kate walk. I don't know I
was doing something anyways. I stood up for like one second,
all of a sudden, I slip down this mountain. My
knee buckles out of control. And this was day one
of our Colorado trip. Mind you, I'm like training for

(14:57):
the New York City Marathon. I had long run to
do that weekend while we were there, which I was
so excited to do because it was like beautiful in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, you ran like seven miles the next day, okay.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Training with a little bit of elevation, and then I
like basically couldn't walk for the rest of the week.
I got better by the rest of By the end
of the week, but my knee was just like very
messed up. But obviously I was in like marathon modes,
so I was like, oh god, I have to get
my milagen. And this is like also I was very young,
so it's kind of like you learn.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
That I could.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
It would have been completely fine if I took two
weeks to recalibrate and like, you know, heal myself. But regardless,
I was never gonna heal myself because when I slipped
down that mountain, my fall was so bad that the
screws from my original ACL surgery that were still in
my knee of course, had gotten loose in my knee

(15:45):
and they were basically as I was training for the
marathon and running, they were floating around my knee somewhere
and cutting through my cartilage and like some other ligaments
in my knee that are still there anyways, And I
would have this crazy sensation when i'd be like running
through Central Park, where I'd like scream at the top
of my lungs, and I was like, oh my god.

(16:07):
And so of course you never in a million years think, oh,
it's literally medical screws loose in your knee.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Like I thought.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
It was like every other thing possible. I thought it
was a Baker's sist, which is very common for people.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
You would swell up, Yeah, yeah, that's a big I
don't know, I've never seen this baker sist before.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Baker cists are very common for people that I've had
acl tarras and even people that I've gotten them repaired
and not retorn. So anyways, I never obviously would have
guessed that it was a medical screw. Basically continue training,
have continue training with this crazy pain, and obviously, like
the pain wasn't every single time I ran, but it
was like maybe once a week, and that was because

(16:42):
the screw was literally like readjusting in my knee that
I would feel it like flipping or whatever. And yeah,
I ended up doing the New York City Marathon didn't
feel at all, which I was so happy about. And
then basically the next week I thought to myself, Oh,
let me just like go to the doctor and see
what's up. And I went to the Hospital for Special
Surgery in the City, which is where I had had
my surgery when I was how old was I like

(17:04):
fourteen my first surgery, And they compared my twenty twenty
one X ray to my X ray when I was
fourteen years old, and the doctor or the PA calls
me basically right after they got my results back, and
he was like, do you have crutches in your apartment?
And of course who has crutches in their apartment? Nobody?

(17:26):
Like I was like no, and he was like, okay,
well you need to come in for emergency surgery. I
think it was like either the next day or two
days post that phone call and the doctor like squeezed
me in because I had these emergency situation where these
screws were floating around in my knee and I ran
the New York City Marathon doing that, and yeah, since then,

(17:49):
I haven't ran a marriage. Actually, I guess I have
read a marathon since then. And I definitely now deal
with over usage more than I used to, Like my
knee gets more swollen if I like run too many miles,
and that by too many miles, I mean like if
I do a marathon, I really have to take time off.
But yeah, that was my twenty twenty one marathon experience,
running with medical screws loosen my knee, cutting through my cartilage.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
He left out the part where I nursed you back to.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Help Jeremy did nurse me back to help.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I flew Kate called me. It was like, hey, I'm
getting surgery, can you come help out? And yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I don't think you realized what it would entail, but
I literally couldn't do anything. You were making us food.
I think Brendan was staying with us too, my twin
for a little.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
It took a community.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah that was funny, but yeah, it was good. Luckily
that surgery was nowhere near as extreme as an ACL surgery,
and within like two weeks I was able to be
back to move in and groove in and doing the
peloton a little bit and doing some workouts at the

(18:57):
gym and slowly getting back into running. But that was
definitely crazy. I can't believe I ran twenty six twenty
two miles with that freaking thing in my knee and
obviously all the training miles and I really trained for
that marathon that year.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
This was like December twenty twenty one when I got
the surgery. Was this twenty twenty two?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
No, No, twenty one, I think it's twenty two.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
No, I ran the marathon in twenty one, Okay, I
think twenty two. With the year that was like, really,
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
The end of twenty twenty one. Oh, I guess it
was the marathon would have been yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
November, it was the end of twenty twenty one. Yeah.
We weren't like officially dating it or anything nice. We
were just friends. You're feeling good post your workout.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'm feeling good, and I'm feeling good after this amazing
season one of Post Run High.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah. So, Jeremy has been obviously a huge part of
the show, both behind the scenes and on the scenes.
He's in a lot of our videos. You probably see
him in a lot of my content. But you've been
it will Post Run High a. It was your idea.
So you been the biggest advocate for the show.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I want to tell them the story behind the name.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I was in a GTX class at a lifetime and Kate,
you know, she has become an amazing storyteller, the medium
for storytelling for a couple of years, was running with
her phone in her hand with a tripod and getting
an hour of footage and compressing it into a three
minute clip. And thought that, you know what, I think

(20:25):
you you know, you would be great at a long
form just where you can kind of let your ideas
flow and not have to edit it after into like
little digestible bites, and also.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Show people that I'm the one guiding the conversations. I
think a lot of people like the one thing that
I get triggered about with my running interview show, and
I feel like this is a safe space, this podcast,
so I could talk about it. But I have so
many people be like, like I had this girl say
this to me at our bas Oh my god, my voice. Sorry,
guys at our bastall, I had somebody say to me.
They were like, well, we have this update coming up
that we'll talk about in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Stay tuned to the update.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
But this girl was saying to me, She's like, well,
you're gonna be fine because like you're not even in
your videos anyways. And I was like, I am very
much so in the videos, you know what I mean.
I'm like, I'm the one running with them. I'm the
one guiding the conversation. Like you think these people are
just like saying stuff without being prompted. You know. It's
like I go in and I prep for a full interview,
and yes, like you're seeing a very condensed down version,

(21:19):
but it's like it takes somebody being with them that
A is showing up with the right energy to make
people feel good and feel comfortable opening up to you.
But B it's like they don't just talk about different
topics without being prompted, Like I am the one They're
guiding the conversation the entire way through, and also doing
it while running, you know, having to make sure my

(21:41):
energy levels stay up when the guests are getting exhausted,
you know what I mean. So I got kind of
triggered by that, cause I was like, well, yes, my
videos are like storytelling about other people, but it's like
I'm the one creating the environment for them to tell
their story and prompting them with the questions to get
things out of them, you know, and also making them
feel comfortable, and then also the one crafting the story

(22:03):
afterwards and taking down taking hours of video footage and
condens get into three minutes to tell their story in
a way that makes sense but also pulls the key
moments from so much footage, you know what I mean.
So I got a little annoyed by that. I was like, Okay,
well you.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Are definitely very much in your podcast, no debate there, Yeah,
And Kate wanted. She wanted to make sense like you're like,
I want to sure, I want to do a podcast,
but I only want to do it if it like
not just going to be another podcast, like obviously there's
a lot of podcasts out there, and really appreciate you
guys for being here. It really doesn't mean a lot,

(22:41):
because yeah, there are a lot of podcasts out there.
So I think I came up with a couple ideas
where you're kind of like, eh, I don't know about
that one. And then I was at the GTX class
at Lifetime and if you guys are familiar with that
kind of like berries where half of it's like running
half of its floor workout. And I just finished a
class and I booked it. I think I was up

(23:02):
to like seventeen point two world record GTX world record
on the treadmill. It's definitely not the world record, but
I was feeling it, yeah, and I just thought like
it just literally came to my head. I was like,
I've got it. I'm feeling it right now, like I'm
feeling the post run high, like I can feel it.
And then I just texted Kate post run high, and

(23:23):
she was I think you were just like, yeah, that's it,
and here we are. Look at the wall, Look at
the wall, look at the look at the mic, look
up behind your head.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
When Jeremy texted me that, I was like, that is
so good. And it did make so much sense, because yeah,
we were toying with a couple other ideas because we
had this urge to go deeper, and then yeah, that
was the one that just totally made the most sense
and just as the most natural fit with our show too,

(23:52):
Like I didn't want to do something that required me
doing a completely new show. Like this show works so
well for us because we go for run with our guests,
and then if that guest so happens to have extra time,
like an hour, hour and a half, we say to them,
you know, we can use that time to sit down
for our podcast post run high we're already feeling good.
It's kind of like having a drink. You know, don't

(24:14):
have to have a drink. You just go for your run,
sit down for the podcast. You've already opened up with
each other so much and gotten comfortable on the run
that it makes for a really seamless long form podcast.
And it just made so much sense because we were
already hanging out with so many of our guests for
like a half hour hour post the run anyways, that

(24:34):
it was just like, well, let's just let's just put
this on.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Video and when you listen to the show, you can
you can feel it. Yeah, I mean everyone you smiley,
smiley happy like you can you can honestly feel that
that energy. I think it conveys itself. But yeah, I
think I remember the first few guests because initially there
was no podcast partner. iHeartRadio is now a part and

(25:00):
on the show, and guys, we will can announce it
right now or iHeart has picked the show up for
season two, so the show will go on. But initially
it was it was very much bootstrapped, and I think
the first like five episodes that were recorded, there was
no podcast online, so you couldn't be like, hey, do
you want to be on my post run high podcast

(25:20):
because it didn't exist. So people would come for the
run and then you'd be like, oh, do you want
to go upstairs?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Like do you want to go podcast for a little bit,
And people were like, do you have a podcast?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Do you think that we're working on it? So yeah,
people would just come upstairs and podcast, and the set
did not look like it does right now, is very
much like a makeshift MVP set. And then I think
posted five episodes and it was enough for iHeartRadio to
come in and say, all we think this, we think
this has legs. And here we are a year later

(25:55):
and trying to figure out how to do season two.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, we really sent it. We built this beautiful set.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Kate built the Kate built the set. I must say
I was very much I like the MVP set. I
guess if it was up to me, this, the set
from the first two shows would probably be the set
it is today.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Really, I mean, it's an audio first Kate.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Kate's more aesthetic than I am.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I just like wanted we have. We are fortunate in
the sense that we Jeremy and I, when we first
moved to Brooklyn, we both had wanted to have an
office space that we could go to outside of our apartment.
I think, like if you live in New York or
in a city that you know has cramped apartment space,

(26:38):
apartment living, I really think it's healthy for people to
have a space that they go whether it's a local
coffee shop, a library, or just a space that you
can go outside of your home to work from. And
you and I definitely both shared that value, and we
found this awesome space in Brooklyn, and it just made
sense to build a pretty studio. And you know, you've
used the studio before, we'd have other we've had other

(26:59):
people use it as well well. But yeah, I'm somebody
that like I just like things to look nice. You know, you're.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Asthetic, and I think that that's something that you don't
well obviously you don't get interviewed a lot, but Kate
is actually a very talented artist and an oil painter, creative.
I mean, this wall is limewashed. I don't even I
didn't even know what that meant. I still don't even
really know what it means.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Lime wash is popular right now?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well it looks cool.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, So first topic, what we've learned from fifty six
plus weeks of conversations after the run. So I'm just
going to run you through quickly some of our stats. Guys,
But we have interviewed six award winning journalists, Al Roker,
Dana Prino, Mark Consuelos, Lindsey Davis, Will Reeves, Jason Kelly.

(27:55):
We've interviewed thirteen founders I'm not going to read them all,
but to name a few of our highlights, We've interviewed
Rebecca Minkoff Darman, one of the co founders of Robinhood,
the co founder of Infatuation, The Real Real founder, Christina Tausi,
the founder of Milk Bar, Gary Vaynerchuk, and so many more.
We've interviewed six elite athletes, Tom Aspinall, Charlotte Flair, Tim Tebow,

(28:18):
Paul Rabel, Nicholas Thompson, Sean Johnson. We've interviewed ten musicians,
and to name a few, one of them being Jordan Davis.
And if you guys follow my Instagram stories on my
personal page at Kate Max, then you know I am
always sharing Jordan Davis' songs and I was actually in
the top one percent of listeners on my Spotify rap
for Jordan Davis. We've interviewed Derk S. Bentley, John Party.

(28:41):
John Party was actually the first and only guests that
we drank a beer with on camera, which I probably
shouldn't have been drinking a beer, but I had no idea.
But we're going to get to that. Mike Posner, Xandra Pohl,
and so many more. And we also completed the Wicked trifecta.
We interviewed Mary Kate Morrissey who played Alphaba, Ali Trim

(29:03):
who currently plays Glinda, and we just recently interviewed Jordan Ltz,
who was on the podcast last week and he is
the longest running fierro in Broadways Wicked history.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
What a Guy, What a Guy?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
And we built twenty one sets across five states. So
we obviously have this beautiful set in Brooklyn, but not
everybody comes to Brooklyn to film the podcast, and we
often what we love to do is we love to
go to people, meet them where they are, and pop
up our podcast there hang out with them and but yeah,

(29:40):
so that was a lot. We really have, you know,
done a lot, and there are so many more categories
of people that we could have, you know, highlighted, but yeah,
we've done actors, Yeah, others. Troy and Belsario was like
our biggest episode. Which was so cool to interview her

(30:02):
because I watched per Little Liars when I was growing up,
so that was crazy to be sitting across from her.
I was like, whoa. You know a lot of people
ask me like do you ever get starstruck? And it's
very rare that I get starstruck. I don't know why.
I think it's just like we do so many of
these interviews, like typically on like an average week. Obviously
we're going into the holidays, so things slow down a
little bit. But I typically film like anywhere from four

(30:23):
to six interviews in a week, and we often have
you know, people on that you see a lot in
the media, whatever the industry that they may be in
is in, so you kind of just it becomes Obviously,
I get like so excited for every single guest. I
get excited for anybody that shows up for me, But
I don't really get starstruck that often. I think it's because,

(30:43):
like you realize after doing so many of these that
people are just people and they just want to be
treated like a friend. But I do have to say,
Jeremy and I had one person in twenty twenty four
that we got starstruck by completely twenty twenty four, right
last year, No, it's this, We'll say on three, who's
one person we both got startruk by three?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Both got starstruck by three in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
In twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, so last year
it's the only person only we both.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Got start one. I think it's starstruck by? Yes, what
did I get starstruck by? J oh Well, that was
on this running show. I thought you meant the podcast. Yeah,
I mean that guy. That guy just glistens. I didn't
get starstruck. I was just like, this guy's literally glistening.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
He came out of his like stretch your car whenever
we met him on the West Side Highway and that
if you guys are familiar with the West Side Highway,
we met him, Oh god, what is it like right
near Pier forty five, but in the area that you
can like pull up with a car, So it's kind
of like there's Peer forty five and then you're running
towards the Freedom Tower and then there's another peer and
then there's this like stretch of buildings where you can

(31:49):
play like soccer in or whatever. And that's where we
met him, and he got out of his stretcher car
and Jeremy and I both saw it because we talked
about it afterwards. But he was like glistening silver, wasn't he.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
I never knew what aura meant until then.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
That's aura. Jason Darilla's got it.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
He was like he's like, do I have Like I
was like, we're like looking at his face because I
mean we're I was just like, whoa, it's a good
looking guy. And uh, he's so good. Like he's like,
do I have pizza in my beard? I was like,
I was like, are you no, man, you don't have
anything in your in your beard. You've got something going on,
but it's not pizza in your beard.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
No. He looked so good and uh, it's not even
just that he's good looking, it's just he has he's
got that aura.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
He glows literally, and it's.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Probably because that's somebody that we like, Like I haven't
done that many people that we've really grown up watching,
you know, Like he's somebody that we've known about since
we were little kids, like using our Apple gift cards
on or Itune gift cards to buy their music.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I would imagine like we were supposed to do an
interview with Ed Sheeran in twenty twenty four when he
was doing promo for something, whether do I forget maybe
a new album or a new song and it ends
up getting canceled? But I had imagined that probably would
have been a similar situation.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Troy and Bella Sarrio was very cool. I think that
was one of your top podcast episodes. I didn't realize
and we showed up that she was married to Mike
from Suits. Yeah, that was someone who I mean, I
used to love that show when I was a look in.
I think I think it's had to come back over
the last few years. Well, that was kind of like

(33:23):
a moment where like, oh, yeah, this is pretty cool.
We showed up at their house that had been on
like Architectural Digest the week before, and he just like
comes out of NANTA office. What you doing, honey. I'm like,
you married the Mike from Suits.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Patrick j Adams, Right.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Patrick j Adams, Great guy, great couple.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
They are such a great couple. I'm such a fan.
So I have a few things kind of prepped here
just within the key learnings from the year. What are
some of the biggest things we have learned from the
vast range of people that we have interviewed on post
run high and what would you say or some of
the threads.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
So everybody has their own demons that they've faced, whether
it's mentally, whether it's in their jobs. And yeah, the
thing that has been consistent and is Also the theme
of your show, or the common thread is when times
are good, they move, they get out, they get going.
When times are bad, they move like physically, and that

(34:26):
helps everybody get through those periods and into greener pastures.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, definitely, I like that you said that. I agree.
I think it's very clear through like every single person
that we have interviewed that has made something of their
lives and had success in some sort of way has
faced highs and lows in different ways. And I actually
wrote down a few. So I like that you gave
that example because I wrote that down as well. But

(34:54):
one example that always comes to mind is Tim Gunn
talk to me about not being cast in for the
new season of Project Runway. And he's somebody that obviously
is a fashion icon. He was the face of Project
Runway for so many years, or one of the faces
of it with Heidi Klum and he I think we
might have talked about it off camera, but he was

(35:16):
really upset that he didn't get recast for the show.
So that's, you know, part of his story that he
was very open about. Another person was Paul Rabel. This
was a dream guest for me, but Paul Rabel is
like known as one of the best lacrosse players ever.
He's goaded and I was a lacrosse player growing up.
I come from a family that like loved lacrosse. My
brother's played. My parents got really into it when we

(35:38):
were kids. So to interview him was really cool. And
he started the PLL, the Professional Lacrosse League, and one
of the things that he was really open about was
all of the discouragement and negativity that he faced within
the lacrosse community. A community that had lifted him up
for so many years was now putting him down and

(35:58):
saying to him like, you're never going to be able
to do this, You're never going to be successful, You're
never going to build another lacrosse league, professional lacrossleag because
already was one.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
What does Paul think he is building his own competitor?

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, professional, And sure enough, of course he now has
and he's been very successful with it. And Paul will
go on to do so many things that he's going
to find.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
They bought the first league. Yeah that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, they acquired it. Okay. Another example Julie Wayne Wright.
We had her on recently. So Julie, as you guys
know her is the CEO of The Real Reel or
you might not know her, but you might have shopped
at The Real Reel before. Julie Wayne Wright was the
founder and CEO, and she was actually the CEO of
pets dot com, which is something that I didn't know about.
But pets dot com was a massive failure during the

(36:40):
dot com bust, and Julie in her forties was like
publicly humiliated over what happened to pets dot com because
she was the CEO, she was the face of the brand,
and it was like public humiliation, like a lot of
media sources picked it up, et cetera. Anyways, she obviously
goes on a little bit of a hiatus aually reinvents

(37:00):
herself by coming up with the idea for The Real Reel,
which you guys can watch our podcast or listen to
our podcast to hear that story behind her founding the
Real Reel. But you know, the Real Reel went on
to be one of the first female owned companies to
go public. She obviously made a ton of money, massive success,
but then she got fired from her role at the

(37:22):
Real Reel and she is now in another phase of
reinventing herself. So like it just goes to show that,
like all of these people, and those are just a
few examples, like if you listen to every single one
of our episodes, Like we just interviewed Jordan Litz last week,
Who's Fierro on Broadway. He's the longest running at Fierro.
Good guy, and Jordan Litz for his whole life was
an elite level swimmer. He raced in the twenty twelve

(37:43):
Olympic Trials against Ryan lock Key. Is that the same
Ryan lock Ryan Lockkeey and Michael Phelps.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I've ever heard of them.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Michael Pobs and I actually have the same birthday. You
and thirty of the shout out. We got to get
Michael Pelps on the show.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Huge fan of the Pod. I bet, I bet Michael's
listening right now. Michael, come on, man, friend of the Pod.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I let when people say that, that'd be sick if
we had him on. But anyways, Jordan had to go
through a phase of reinventing himself because obviously in twenty twelve,
nobody was beaten out Michael Phelps or Ryan as Jordan said,
they were just built differently, and he reinvented himself.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
No matter how good he got he just wasn't going
to be as good as that he could have. You know,
he could have been the best guy in ten years before,
ten years after. He just there was no way he
was going to be the best guy then. Yeah, like
he he was. He wasn't right below them, but he
was close. He was in the Olympic trials, right, But
at a certain point it was just like, yeah, I
gotta do something else.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, So he pivoted from elite level swimming to musical
theater and then working his butt off to get to
the top of the top within musical theater and is
now a principle on Wicked playing Fierro.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Literally, was that Disney World as like a prince, right,
Like a prince at Disney World.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, which is also cool, and that's like a way
that a lot of people get their start, like, but
I mean not everybody that he was saying, Like his
wife wasn't didn't want to be an actress, but she
was like a Disney Persons princess at Disney World.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
You go, you go from being like an Olympic or
close to Olympic swimmer to a prince at Disney World.
Like that's just within like a year. That's just a crazy,
crazy pivot and a five thirteen mile er that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
He's like, I mean that, you guys have to listen
to this podcast because this guy is just a beast.
Like everything about him was just so cool. He's such
a great guy, and he's a girl dad, which we love,
a girl dad to two girls. I don't know if
he had his second daughter yet, but like by the
time this podcast comes out, I'm pretty sure his second
baby girl will have been born again. Everybody has their
highs and lows, regardless of the industry, and as Jeremy said,

(39:44):
movement was one of the common threads that we found
through all of these people that helped them push through,
power through, and you know, regain the strength to keep
on going.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Keep on keeping on as you keep on keeping eye.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Okay, on that note, of course, if you're on post
run high, there's some sort of movement involved in the show.
Before we sit down for the show, we do some
sort of movement, whether it's a walk, a run. I'm
pretty sure we have some rock climbing coming up. I've
done a bike ride with guests. But if you are
involved in the show, you have to do some sort

(40:24):
of movement first. So one of the common threads with
all the guests is definitely that they all exercise and
move their bodies, and even Al Roker at seventy one
prioritize this movement, and Tim Gunn prioritizes movement as well
at seventy two. And I'm pretty sure in the beginning
of our episode with Tim he talked about working out

(40:45):
with a trainer or something. I forget the type of
movement that he was doing, so you guys will have
to go back to that episode and watch it. But anyways,
I just loved knowing that people of all ages are
moving their bodies, and you don't always get to learn
that about certain people based on their careers. You know.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Who fencing he was, Tim Gunn was.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Tim Gunn was fencing. I was gonna say boxing, And.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I definitely got to get Tim Gunn back on on
the pod and do some you and him do some fencing.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Oh, that'd be crazy. I think one of the common
threads that I've realized with all of these guests, and
that I've realized even through the running interview show, is
that success looks glamorous, but it starts with discipline and
I think the common thread that you'll see and find
amongst all successful people is that they've gotten their ten
thousand hours in.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I agree. I think the saying is what like an
overnight success after like years of repeated effort. I think
there's some quote there, but that was what everybody in
all the country artists who did ten year Town, that's
what they all said. They're like, Yeah, you come to Nashville,
you work your tailoff, you work bars, you write for

(41:55):
other people, You put in, you put in your hours,
and ten years in is when you get your big break.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
And I think one of the cool things that I
learned through interviewing a lot of the country artists is that,
And I think this ghest applies to every industry, but
I'm just gonna use the country. One of the country
music artists as an example, Jordan Dave is my favorite,
is that when he moved to Nashville, he wanted to
be a songwriter and he was going to record labels
couldn't get picked up as a songwriter, and they said

(42:24):
to him, like all the record labels were like, we're
not signing anybody that's not an artist right now, Like
not somebody that can also sing, So he goes to
Nashville to become a songwriter. Then is told he's never
gonna make it unless he's a singer, and he's never
sang before. And he puts the work in and he
learns how to sing, and now he's Jordan Davis and

(42:46):
his songs are incredible. He's literally one of my favorite
country artists ever. I love his voice so much. Turn
that track d by Dirt. But like, think about that,
It's like, so, I think the point there is that
the point there is that, like I think, yeah, the
point there is that I think it's so important for
people to One of the common threads I've found through
all these interviews is that it's so important for people

(43:08):
well roll with the punches, but also it's like, follow
your passion, yes, but as you're following that passion and
chasing the thing that gives you energy, don't be afraid
to dabble in some of the other things or opportunities
that might come up along the way, because you never
know where they're going to lead you. Even when I
think about myself with the running interview show is that

(43:28):
I started out doing runs with people, but really my
running interview show in the early days in March of
twenty twenty three, when I just started in April twenty
twenty three, was I was just running with people and
vlogging it and like learning why they like to run,
and learning how many years they lived in New York
and you know what they do for work, and obviously
like running five miles, ten miles having fun with them
along the way. But it wasn't necessarily an interview show.

(43:51):
And like the interview show came so naturally because I
had somebody. I had Bobby Flay and Chelsea Cutler reach
out to me, and Bobby Flay was like, I have
this cookbook coming out. I would love to come on
your show. I'm a runner and we can talk about
you know this the work that I have coming up,
and I can tell my story and we can also
cook together and do your running show. You know. So
like I had no idea. I had no idea that

(44:14):
this was.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Going to turn into like a modern.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Running interview show. Like an interview show.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I remember Jason Derulo, which one of the common themes
I think you see from successful people is their curiosity.
And I'd say especially successful people who like came out
of nothing, you know, like, there's sure, there's probably a
certain degree of nepotism in you know, the world of celebritism.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
However, celebritism is that a word.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
I think I'm just gonna I'm gonna roll. I'm gonnakeep going,
I'm gonna roll with it. But there's a lot of
people who you know, Barbara Corkran, I'll use her as
an example. Derulo, you know, they they didn't you know,
they really made something for themselves, and curiosity is what
enabled that. Derula is also a guy who wrote songs
for people like he got in the right room with people,

(45:03):
he made it happen. And one of the things that
he said that I thought was super interesting. This wasn't
on the interview. He just said to us because I'm like, yo, man,
this is crazy, Like you're doing this with with Kate,
Like thank you so much, Like this this is this
is huge, Like thank you, this is this is an
awesome opportunity for us, for Kate. And he was like, well,

(45:24):
He's like, I'm gonna be honest, this is a great
opportunity for me. He's like, I flew here with my
crew to do what I think the morning show or
I don't know, one of the one of the talk shows.
He was like, yeah, it cost me, you know, like
a million dollars to fly everybody here, to fly my
entire you know, dancing team, production team. And he was like,

(45:44):
this is gonna probably do better numbers. He was like,
this is probably going to get more more views, like
more hits than that whole shabbaccle, Like this is the future.
And I was like, you saying that, like Jason Derulo
saying that this might actually have like more of an
impact than like the Morning Show or the Today Show

(46:06):
or whatever. It was like, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, And it's so funny because even like that was
a year ago saying didn't no, yeah, and even and
I think it did.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
I think it got a lot you ran with the
security guards. It's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
He's got a lot of views. But even it's funny
that even then you were like, oh my god. But
now it's like people kind of know that that like
social media stuff is doing better numbers and podcasts and
then the typical shows, and we're hearing a lot about
that and anyway, so it's gonna be really interesting to
see how the next couple of years unfold Okay, the
last thing, and then we'll move on to the next topic.

(46:38):
But I have a few people written down, so we
just want to go over them. But reinvention is the
real superpower is another thing that I wrote down as
a key. Learning from everybody that we've had on in
season one. A couple examples, Mark Consulos. You guys might
know him from Kelly and Mark or from what was
that show that Riverdale or from Riverdale, but Mark Conswalo

(46:59):
shifted from act ding to hosting, and I'm sure he'll
do more acting gigs, but right now he's in his
hosting era and that's a big transition, going from scripted
television to unscripted. Sean Johnson, we had her on. I
knew her growing up as the Olympic gymnast. You know,
she's kind of in that golden age, one of the
golden ages of gymnasts.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Absolute legend, absolute legend.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
And she is currently and has been rebuilding her life
post gymnastics and figuring out this new identity for herself,
which is so cool to see and she's done such
a good job with it. And then the other example
is Christina Tausi, and she was always somebody that loved
making desserts, but she a reinvented the dessert industry and

(47:39):
how we see desserts, which I feel like we don't
notice as much now because there's so many crazy desserts
out there. But at the time when Milk Bar came out,
like her desserts were so different and so unique, and
she came from mamufuku making what it would be considered
like she was like a sous chef, right, like a
professional chef, so making savory dishes. So she went from

(48:03):
savory to making the best suites. And that's on the
power of reinvention. So topic number two is how our
life has shifted in the last year and how it
will be shifting in twenty twenty six. This is the

(48:23):
topic that I'm super excited to talk about. But we
never really talk about what's going on in my life
because we spend so much time interviewing other people on
the show, which is definitely my passion. I love interviewing
people and getting to know their stories and guys. My
goal is to be an interviewer, so that's why you
see a lot of those episodes. But it's always fun
to talk about what we're up to and I think

(48:44):
our biggest update so far has been that Jeremy and
I got married in September of twenty twenty five. Locked
it down, and it was a really exciting year. A
lot of family events, a lot of seeing friends that
we don't get to see that often. I know your
friends that live in North Carolina. So we had a

(49:05):
really exciting just friends and family type of year, jam
packed with events.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Probably do a entire episode just on a wedding and
lessons lessons learned there.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
What would you say, it's the biggest lesson you learned
from our wedding.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Who that's a good one. Let me the biggest lesson.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Just whatever pops into your mind, going, it's.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
All go and work out. I think for us that day,
Kate was looking at the weather for the month leading
up to the wedding, and I must say the reports
were not great. And yeah, there was a terrible storm
that day. It was a very bad flash flood type situation.
Had some difficulty with the buses getting out. Actually, one

(49:49):
of our guests their cars got just destroyed by trees
and we didn't learn until later. We were just like so,
I was like, oh, are they okay? And no, one
wanted to like upset us, so we didn't learn until later.
But yeah, they're totaled both their cars. So yeah, the
weather was terrible for the most of the day. Kate

(50:10):
really wanted to do an outdoor ceremony that was super
important to her, but we switched it up. We audibled,
We did an indoor ceremony. It was beautiful, and then
as soon as the indoor ceremony was over, the clouds
parted and we went outside and it was beautiful and
there was an amazing It was like a hot, humid,
rainy day earlier in the day, and then by the afternoon,

(50:32):
the cocktail hour, it was a perfect breeze. Yeah, and
the clouds had lifted. So it's all going be okay.
That's that's that's that's the takeaway.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, I think it's all gonna be okay. I do
have to say for brides out there that are planning,
you know twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven weddings, do
choose a venue that has a good enough weather plan
that you're happy with, Because I do have to say,
we got married at Sleepy Hollow Country Club.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Awesome venue, beautiful venue.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
My grandparents have been members forever, so it was really
special to me. I really wanted to choose a venue
that we that didn't feel like a wedding venue to me,
Like was a place that I grew up going to,
I was familiar with. I had a couple family members
that had also gotten married there, so there was a
lot of history there. My grandma I think had her
debutante there. I could be getting that wrong, but anyways,

(51:26):
it was a place just rooted in family history for
my family. You also have a lot of connection to
that area because your dad grew up in that area.
But regardless, we got really lucky because nothing had to
be outside, Like our weather plan was still beautiful. When
we pivoted the ceremony from being outside to being in
a room inside sleepy hollow, like the room looked like

(51:48):
a chapel, it was still gorgeous, and then people got
to enjoy the outdoor area without being obstructed by like
a ceremony setup. When we ended up getting good weather
for the cock till hour and the reception was in
a totally closed off tent. So I do have to say, like,
if you're planning a wedding, like I was the type
of person I was like, it's never going to rain

(52:09):
on my wedding, Like I'm never going to get that unlucky,
you know. But of course it did rain on our wedding,
and it was like a mon soon. It was like
the worst it could have possibly rained. Like Jeremy and
I didn't get that many pictures from our wedding because
the weather was so bad outside and we wanted to
avoid like my dress getting super muddy and just like
soaking wet before the ceremony. But yeah, so you need

(52:30):
a contingency plan that you're comfortable and not only comfortable with,
but like you're happy with, you know, because the last
thing you want is for it to be your wedding
day and you to be like, oh, like it just
wasn't as beautiful as it could have been. Like I
still feel so grateful that our wedding was so beautiful,
and it was just it was different than what we expected,

(52:51):
but not that much different, you know what I mean.
And I actually had shout out Soda med again. But
leading up to the wedding, I was going to Soda
Method a lot.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I was too, I was doing the.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
App, yeah, and I was talking to all the girls
there all the instructors and the girls that work at
the front desk knew that I was stressed out about
the weather for the wedding. Like I would walk in
and they'd be like, well, how's the looking today.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
And I was like a month long.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yeah, it was like a saga, saga, and then I
find oh my god, yeah, by the way, just trust
trust that they're right if they say there's going to
be If one of them says one hundred percent chance
of rain, baby, it's raining. But I do have to
say so I one of like the last week before
the wedding, I had Steph Shrine say it. Who's like

(53:37):
one of my favorite instructors at SODO. She just round
the New York City marathon actually, and she was a marine,
so great girl, and she said to me, she goes,
Kate you. She was like, Kate, the hardest thing when
it comes to like big life events and things that
you're like excited about is managing your expectations. And as

(53:59):
soon as she said that to me, my mindset completely shifted,
because like, who am I to be? Like why is
it going to rain on our wedding? You know, like
this isn't what we planned for. This isn't what we wanted.
But at the end of the day, it's like you
have to be able to manage your expectations, you know,
And I think that goes for so many things in life.

(54:21):
It's like nothing is ever going to go perfectly to
plan and you just have to be okay with that. Anyways,
it was a really good mindset shift for me. I
felt like I was in a therapy session when she
said that that isn't and what.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
You need to also do. You need to do a
mini moon after your wedding. Don't do a big honeymoon.
Do that at some point, but just go get in
your car, drive somewhere, do something comfortable.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I just think the last thing that I wanted to do. Yeah,
after that whole lead up and all the logistics and
planning and effort and then energy that you expect end
leading into the big day is then uber over to
an airport, fly for twenty two hours to the other
side of the world. Like, just take it easy. And

(55:12):
then what's great is that you now have that get
out of jail free card for the next three years,
when if you want to go on a three week
trip or something two week trip, you can always say
I'm on my honeymoon, like I'm not going to respond
to emails, I'm not going to respond to texts, let
me be. But if you'd done that right away, then
you wouldn't have that anymore.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
That's true. I mean, I think both are like, both
are great. If you're the type of person that's like,
I want to do my honeymoon right away, That's what
I always imagined for myself. Again, manage your expectations. But
also that's fine, Like, I think people have so much
fun with that. I've had a lot of cousins and
friends and family members. My mom and dad did that,
my grandparents did that. But definitely, if you're somebody that's

(55:53):
taking a long trip after your wedding, in the beginning
of it, allocate I would say at least three to
four days of just R and R hit a SPA
because I was really sick after our wedding.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Yeah you did, you got burnt out from it? I
was fine, Yeah, I had like a cold. Think you
put more more effort into the wedding then than I did. Admittedly, maybe, however,
New Yorkers or anyone in the Northeast, honestly, any anyone anywhere.
We have a great recommendation. We planned our mini moon.
You can also call it a honeymoon whatever, but I'm

(56:27):
choosing to call it a mini moon.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
It was so beautiful that I was like, Jeremy, this
is our honeymoon. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
We a couple weeks before we got very reasonably priced place.
All the upstate New York Hudson Valley places were like
three four times as much. This place was like five
star resort. Oh my gosh. They spoke different it was.
It was in Quebec, so they spoke quebec Qua. They
spoke a different language, which made it feel made it
feel more exotical than it really was. Yeah, but six

(56:53):
hour drive from New York City and you're in a
French speaking country with like beautiful mountains, and it was
really I digress.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Team Mini Moon Tea Mini Moon and Team Man were Jobe.
It was really beautiful. Actually, Laura Geller was the We
did a running in Reach episode with her.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
She's a she's a makeup art.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
We got to get her on the definitely having her
on the pad.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
She's so hilarious.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
She's hilarious. Yeah. She actually sponsored Jeremy's mom, who was
running the New York City Marathon this year. If you
guys haven't seen that video, go check it out. But
she was the one who recommended a mini moon, and
I'm really happy that we like went with that plan
because you and I would not have been in a
place to plan a whole trip. Also after now that
that's the point, I really think like mini moon was
the move for us, regardless of anything. We were always

(57:39):
somebody that like wanted to do the trip later. But
on that topic, I have two ideas for Meanwhile.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
My grandma got married this year and she went on
an African safari. So she did not take that advice.
She very much said the honeymoon Grandma Bee.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Jeremy's grandma, Grandma Be is the best. She's eighty six
years old. She remarried and she religiously remarried. And yeah,
her and her eighty six year old partner husband, they
went on a honeymoon to Africa. They went on a.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Kosher honeymoon, kosher safari.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Kosher a safari so cool. She was like sending us
pictures of her on an elephant. I was like, what
is going on? But awesome? I mean I only hope
to have that kind of energy when we're that age,
she's awesome. On the topic of a honeymoon, I have

(58:35):
two ideas that I do want to do when we
do decide to do our honeymoon. The first one is
go to the south of France and rent a house
just chill.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
The second one is an African Safari.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I think when we have little kids, that'd be fun.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
And I want to do it with our daughter.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Our daughter. What you have something to say and now
we're saying it.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Okay, So our final update life update is that Jeremy
and I are pregnant.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
We're pregnant.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
We're pregnant, so we're having a baby in the beginning
mid June. I don't know when she's going to decide
to come, but it's a girl. And yeah, we are
getting into our we're in our second trimester and everything's
been going well, so we.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Start jumping around the ultrasound.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
The other day I saw her jumping around. That was crazy.
It's crazy how big they get so.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Quickly, crazy how good ultrasounds are.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
It's weird that she's with us right now. But yeah,
I definitely want to do a honeymoon where we bring
our daughter. Would be so fun.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
So that's the personal stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
So everybody that's listening to this, which you guys are
like our family. Like when you think of like our
the people that listen to our shows, it's like people
watch the running interview show. But if you guys are
also people that listen to the podcast.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
If you don't even watch the running show, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
If you only listen to the podcast, then.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
You're finding out first.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
You're finding out for But b go give me some
love when you see me doing running interviews with people,
because I have to say I've a been a lot
more delicate with my body. But it's been a lot
harder because I'm not a scientist. This is from shat GPTI.
Because I've been like, why have I been so breathy
on these runs with people? And I think your heart
just like works a lot harder when you're pregnant, well

(01:00:20):
of you, you're pumping a lot more blood. I don't
know something like that, but anyways, the runs have definitely
been harder. But we've been working closely with our doctor
to make sure everything we're doing is healthy and we're
not overdoing anything. I think that's the biggest thing with
me is I'm not like an over exerciser, and I
don't push my body to any extreme, so we are

(01:00:40):
safely running. But it's going to be a fun year
because you'll see my body continue to change, my stomach
get bigger, and we're going to be doing a running
interview show. Well, Karen, a baby.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Yeah, and then after you push the baby out. I
don't want to commit you to anything over the air. However,
you have expressed a goal for postpartum.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Yes, so I haven't done a marathon since twenty twenty. Well,
we did the marathon in twenty twenty three, I guess,
but that was like unsanctioned marathon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
You haven't done a marathon sanctioned since you've had screws.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah, I haven't done a sanctioned marathon for New York
City right since New York City in twenty twenty one.
But I do kind of want to do the New
York City Marathon in twenty twenty six. And obviously it's
going to take time post having the baby to be
cleared to start running again. I think it takes like
six to eight weeks, depending on how your birth goes

(01:01:38):
and all of that. But regardless, by end of September October,
I'll be running, so there's a chance that I do
the New York City Marathon or maybe the Philly Marathon.
Who knows, but I would love to do a marathon
postpartum and just challenge my body to get back after it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Show you a baby girl, what's possible?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Okay, So those are our life updates. Let's go into
the third and final because I think this segues nicely
into it. But what are our goals for season two
with you guys? So we alluded to this in the
beginning of the podcast that we wanted to talk about this,
but I think coming off the fact that I'm pregnant,
we're going to be moving into a season of becoming parents.

(01:02:20):
My body's changing a lot. I'm asking a lot of
questions I want to interview in season two. A lot
of health experts, a lot of women's health experts, a
lot of doctors, a lot of athletes, maybe some women
that have had kids and gone back into being competitive athletes,

(01:02:40):
and just kind of talk about things that I think
we as both women and as men, are googling about
our bodies.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Had a girl dad on this past week, Just.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Had a girl dad on this week again he is
pushing his body to the extreme and he was great
to talk about Jordan Ltz. But anyways, so I think
in season two are you guys are really going to
see and you probably saw the last couple of episodes
with Nicholas Thompson and then Jordan Ltz the style of
interviewing that we're doing. But moving into season two, we
really want to get hyper tailored in the episodes we're

(01:03:11):
sharing and the people that we're having conversations with because
we want to make sure that we're getting the most
amount of value out of all of the episodes for
you guys, Like I want to be learning just as
much as you guys are learning, and I want us
to be, you know, topic talking about topics that can

(01:03:31):
can help us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Every every time you tune in the Kate, you know
you're going to get something out of it that is
going to apply to you or help you in some way,
shape or form in your own life. That's really it.
I mean, we've obviously been blessed that you know, you've
been able to do a lot of folk very you know,
diverse array of folk at different types of talent. But

(01:03:56):
really we're you know, trying to always just have that
that nugget in the back of our head of like, Okay,
these are great people, but like how can they actually
help our listeners, you know, like how can they improve
folks lives? So that's really the framing that we're taking
into season two. Also going to be on the lookout

(01:04:18):
for more just experts on different topics. Health wellness is
obviously going to be one of the biggest ones, but
we're open to your guys' ideas of like what are
types of things and types of people you want to
learn from if you have ideas Kate's dms or I
would say the post run High podcast Instagram dms are open,

(01:04:42):
like we're trying to We're here to serve you, frankly,
so let us know how you want to be served.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Yeah, exactly. I couldn't say it better myself. That's exactly
what That's it. And with that being said, this is
our season one rapped and we are so excited for
season two. We'll be back with you guys in just
a few weeks and coming up we have a lot
of people, including Jeremy's mom, that we're filming and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
The premiere I think so, I think so she's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Gonna be so good. Guys. If you don't know Dana,
go check out some of my New York City marathon posts.
She's a psychologist. She specializes in hypnosis. She also specializes
in sports performance, and she works with a lot of
big time athletes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Like retired NFL players. She's ran a bunch of marathons.
She's one of the fastest sixty five year old woman
in the world. She's also my mommy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
She's also Jeremy's mom, and she's the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Best grandmother future grandmother.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Yep of our baby girl. And uh, it's gonna be great.
Thank you guys so much for listening to today's episode
with Jeremy and I. It was so fun doing a
season one rapped. I can't believe it's been over a
year since we started this podcast, and I'm excited for
us to take a little break over the holidays. As

(01:06:06):
you guys know, we're not taking a break from filming
or recording, but we're gonna be taking a break from posting.
So keep in mind we will not have an episode
this coming Monday, but starting back in January, first week
of January, we will be posting our season two and
we have so many great guests and conversations in store

(01:06:27):
for you guys. So I am just so excited to
continue this podcasting journey with you guys and continuing to
grow this show together and learn together. So I hope
everybody has an incredible holiday season, Happy almost New Year,
and I will see you in twenty twenty six