September 29, 2025 • 54 mins
Lindsay Hubbard joins us for a candid conversation about life on and off Summer House. She opens up about how movement and running have shaped her, staying fit for the show, and navigating postpartum and motherhood while working as a new mom. Lindsay reflects on her upbringing, early career in PR, and the unexpected path that led her to reality TV. She talks about living in the public eye, the lessons she’s learned about herself, and the resilience it took to announce her pregnancy and film while expecting. From advice to her younger self to how becoming a mom has changed her, this episode offers an honest and thoughtful look at Lindsay Hubbard’s journey.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi, guys, welcome back to Post Run High. I am
so excited for today's episode. We've got Lindsay Hubbard coming on.
She's a TV personality, entrepreneur, and fan favorite on Bravo's
Summer House. We started our day with a run before
sitting down to chat, and as always, it was the
perfect way to set the tone for our conversation that
you guys are about to listen to today. We talk
about how Lindsay first got her start here in New York.
(00:27):
From building her career in PR to finding her voice
on reality TV to being open about love, friendships, and
everything in between. Lindsay has always put it all out there,
and I think you guys are going to really appreciate
the vulnerability and honesty that she brings to today's conversation.
Without further ado, let's get our Post Run High go
in and let's get into our conversation with Lindsay. Lindsay,
(00:58):
Welcome to Post Run High.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh my god, I just went to the bathroom and
I almost laid under the hand drier.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You know, it's funny whenever, So we started with the run.
We started all of our interviews with the run, and
it's very hot. In New York right now. And I
always wonder when people come back to the studio, like
if you're in the bathroom like splashing their face with water.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
No, I did look at my face and I was like,
who needs highlighter when you have sweat?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We have a natural glow.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And we've got the post run high going, which you're
an athlete like, no better feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Uh yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Have you ever done an interview sweaty before?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
No? No, not on purpose?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I feel good, I feel alive. I feel like that
was like the jump start to my new fitness journey.
Running on a treadmill inside with Ac.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We actually have a version of the show in the
winter that we do sometimes on treadmills because when it's
like fifteen degrees in New York, I just can't do it,
Like I literally cannot be in the cold. My body
shuts down. But I hate running on a treadm.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Like, no, it's boring, it's so boring. Like I mean,
are you a podcast on the treadmill or like a
TV show on the treadmill? Like what kind of tread
if you are forced to run on a chreadmill and
you're not interviewing somebody.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So on the rare occasion that I'm forced to run
on a treadmill, like if it's sobered all outside or
like it's pouring rain and I'm like I have to
work out. Like typically I won't go to the gym,
like unless I really feel like.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I need to, Like I just avoid it altogether.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, Like, I like, I like running outside. I like
going to like fitness classes with my friends. But if
I'm on the treadmill, rare occasion, I'm catching up on
Chloe Kardashian's podcast video version on YouTube, and I'm watching
it like TV.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, so you have the video and the sound. I
I recently, I mean I'm not I haven't been on
a chreadmill in a while, but like the last time
I was on a treadmill, I was listening to a podcast.
It makes it go by so much faster because you're
just like absorbing and your mind is distracted from like
how many lack of miles you've gone.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, I hope some of the people listening are listening
to this while working out.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Would I agree they are?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, just know that Linz keep going, Everyone keep going.
Lindsay and I just worked out, so we're here to
tell you that there's light at the end of the dome.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah. I laughed at Kate when she said how many miles?
And then we went over one mile, so mission accomplished.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, I mean, come on. So I liked finding out
that you were a soccer player growing up, So you
are an athlete, but you just had a baby recently.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Which is like a sport in and of itself. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And I also feel like with fitness, there's like different
chapters of people's lives, and movement fits in differently in
all of those chapters. So like where would you say
you're at right now movement wise, Like what does it
look like in your life right now?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I just moved downtown, so like I've been like so
focused on this move I have a very long hallway
in my apartment, so the most exercise I get is
like walking back and forth, which, by the way, like
it's it is a lot of steps.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Especially when you're holding a baby.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, especially when you're holding a twenty pound baby. But
I am I'm ready to like get back into something.
I think I'm gonna start small and maybe like do pilates,
But I am traditionally a runner, Like I grew up
playing sports, playing soccer. You know, soccer is like a
huge running sport. So I've always loved running for just
(04:28):
the mental health aspect of it, but also you know,
the physical benefits and the stamina. But yeah, maybe it'll
wait till it like cools down a little bit more
for my running journey to start back up. But yeah,
I think I'm like ready to explore the fitness studios
and Trybecca.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I feel like it's good to like ease yourself back in. Yeah,
and no better way than with ploates. But it is
so true like when you grow up an athlete, like
I was the same way. I was always on sports
teams growing up. And so now movement is in my
life in like different ways, and it like comes in waves.
But I feel like it'll always be like a piece
of me, Like I need to move my body in
some sort of way or sweat or just like get
(05:09):
myself going so that I can like accomplish it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
No, I looked at my ass the other day in
the mirror and I was like, what I need to
do something like no, like squads. I was a big, big,
big berries girl for a couple of years. Like I
was at Berries for like I don't know, four or
five days a week.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Berries is intense.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's so intense, but like I like intense activity.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
For everybody listening, you're one of the OG Summer House
cast members. Summerhouse is a big reality show on Bravo TV.
It's actually one of the only reality shows that I've watched.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh really, yes, Oh yeah, because you don't watch Love Islent,
which I do need to watch, which you need to start. Yeah,
and I am until Summerhouse comes back on.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah. When does Summer House come back on?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Usually in like the winter time, so like January.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
February exactly, because you guys are filming right now. Yeah,
going into filming a show like that in the summer,
right you're in bathing suits, like you're you know, summer
clothes or summer clothes. Like, what did your fitness routine
typically look like going into like shooting.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Back in the day, I used to, you know a
month before, like really amp up on exercise and eating
healthy and not drinking. I think these days, I'm just
like trying to survive. Yeah, most days, I like survive
and survive on like a glass of wine at the
end of the day, after I get my daughter to bed,
(06:35):
I'm like, I need wine.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, take my mind off of this immediate yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Literally, so so yeah. I don't know. I guess I
could eat a little bit healthier, but I definitely was
way more into it when I was younger. I think
now I just have a little bit more confidence. I've
always been like a pretty self confident person, especially just
like just physically, like if I had gained weight, if
(07:01):
I had lost weight, Like I always felt good in
my skin for the most part. But being a new mom,
like all of a sudden, I was like, all right,
what is my body gonna look like? Am I gonna
bounce back? Am I gonna you know, like need to
like step it up again? And I think I can.
I think I can step it up again.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah. And like for for women listening that you know,
or even like men that have wives that are like
pregnant or going through the process of like postpartum, and
even for me as somebody that like wants to have
a baby relatively soon, Like what would you say the
months post having a baby have been like.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
They were wild? You know. Postpartum is like no joke.
And I am lucky because I'm you know, I didn't
really suffer from postpartum depression, but I did have you know,
in the beginning, I had body image issues because your
body just goes through so much, like I especially towards
the end when your baby's like full baked and I'm
(08:00):
out to hear I gained sixty pounds during my pregnancy,
and you know, then afterwards, you're like, you know, people
just think that you have a baby, and then you're
flat again, like your stomach is flat and you're back
to what you looked like before you're pregnant. But it
takes it takes a while. Your your body is raging
(08:23):
with hormones. You're trying to figure out, like, you know,
the the feeding journey that you want to put your
baby on, whether it's breastfeeding or pumping or both or
you know, combo feeding with formula. It's a lot of
pressure for new moms, and you know, and then on
top of that, like I was having an identity crisis
of like, okay, you know, who am i I'm now
(08:47):
a mom? Like that add that to like, you know,
one of my titles, but like I need to gain
experience and confidence as a mom. And you know, but
what does that mean for my future? Where's my career?
You're going? Am I going to be on summer House?
Am I not going to be on summer house? Like
you know, it's not exactly an environment, you know where
(09:08):
you can bring a baby to the summer house and
like live there. So you know, there was like a
lot of question marks. It was a huge transitional year
for me from you know, having a baby and becoming
a mom, but then also like question mark, question mark,
question mark about my career, and I think that's where
I struggled the most. You know, as a career oriented
(09:30):
and driven person. You know, my career has always been
important to me, so you know, not knowing where that
was going, you like really have to trust in the
universe that it's all going to work out and everything
happens for a reason, which is why you know, that's
kind of my motto is just like you know, really
just trust the process and it's all it's all going
(09:51):
to be. Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
It's so true and like you're in such an exciting
new chapter of your life. But yeah, it is crazy,
like you bring a new life into the world and
all of a sudden, like your priorities chain. But at
the same time, it's like you have your job, you
have your career, you have your show. And I think
what's so cool is we were talking about this on the run,
but I didn't realize this until last night when I
was like doing a little bit of research. But July fourth,
(10:13):
twenty twenty four is when you announce to your cast
mates that you were pregnant. Yeah, it is July first,
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Your baby insane seven months almost seven months. Sunday, she'll
be seven months old, which is like crazy, it's so true.
You literally blink and you're like, whoa. She's already trying
to crawl. She's like standing up in her crib, Like
in the mornings, she'll lift herself up. She's so strong.
But it's like so many milestones in the first year,
(10:41):
and it's such a beautiful process to and you know,
like to experience and witness and she's just she's the
best baby. But yeah, like you know, there's nothing better.
Like basically all the cliches you know that they say
about you know, how being a kid, they're all true,
(11:02):
Like you know, the the one that's like it's a love,
like you've never felt before, and you're like, Okay, we
get it relaxed, Like no, it's so true. It is
a love like you've never felt before. Your heart expands
in a way that like you know, is just so
fulfilling in your life. It's also you get like more protective,
(11:24):
where you know, every decision you make comes with your
child's safety first and foremost, you know. But it's also
like highly motivating, like I was just telling you, you know,
since having Gemma seven months ago, like I've worked harder
and more than ever. Like I was literally on my
(11:44):
hospital bed having like given birth twenty four hours ago
doing a Jimmy John's you know ad as like my
first meal post you know, delivery, so and then in
January and like the heart of post part of and
like you know, in the throes of like new parenthood,
I had more brand campaigns than ever before. So yeah,
(12:08):
it's a motivation personally to like, you know, do more
and and and be better.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Definitely. I mean be better is like I think the
biggest thing, because I feel like having a baby become
so much more selfless, you know, and it's like your
life is no longer just revolving around yourself, like there's
literally a human being that you're raising that you know, yeah,
working hard for so.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Well, and that's like you you as as a woman
and especially like a very social girl who would just
like pick up and go like meet my girlfriends for
a glass of wine or a dinner in the neighborhood.
Like that was always my thing. Is Like you know,
my girlfriends would call it like eight pm and they're like,
let's go get a glass of wine or let's go
to dinner. Like you can't do that anymore, and you know,
(12:52):
you're just trying to like figure out this new cadence
of life as you know, a new mom and that
like it really took a while, but you're mourning the
loss of who you were before. Like I can sit
here and tell you, yeah, there are definite like elements
of like my personality and you know, being driven and
(13:13):
you know, outgoing and outspoken, but I am a very
different person like sitting here today than I what would
have been a year ago.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
If you could go back and tell your you know
self a year ago July fourth, twenty twenty four, one thing,
like what would it be?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I guess that like it's gonna be challenging, but you're
gonna you're gonna figure it out. And you always do,
you know, like there's something about me, like I always
land on my feet because I refuse to accept like defeat.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You know, yeah, no, you can tell. And this show
is all about movement, and we love covering stories of
people that really just show the power of movement and
the idea that you if you just keep going, like yeah, succeed.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know, literally one foot in front of the other.
Every aspect of life.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Every aspect of life. Yeah, And like I just love
how the word movement transfers into so many different things
really not just about the physical activity, which obviously we
always start with, but it's so much more than that.
And I want to bring everybody back so that we
can get to know you from the ground up. Can
you paint the picture a little bit more for us
of where you grew up in Florida, what your early
(14:34):
life was like, and like what young Lindsay was.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Like, Yeah, I mean I grew up in Hobe Sound, Florida.
It was like it's a really really small town that
not a lot of people had heard of. But if
you're a big golfer or your husband or boyfriend loves
the golf, like they'll definitely know it. It's a golf community.
But I did not play golf, Like I was a
(14:59):
tom Boy. My you know, brother played baseball. My dad
you know, coached, and I just like loved doing everything
that my brother did. At one point, like he went
to high school and he was a ROTC. So I
was like, well, I'm going to be an ROTC because
I wanted to do everything that my brother did. He
(15:20):
was a year older than me. But yeah, I had
like a you know, pretty good childhood, like normal, comfortable,
you know, household with you know, I think, just like
a normal childhood. And then I was always very into
my academics. Like I knew I really wanted to go
(15:42):
to college. I wanted to go to like, you know,
a big state school, and the only way to really
do that was to focus on my academics. You know,
I did play soccer my whole life, but then I
had to quit so I could focus. I was in
the International Baccalaureate program, which is based LEE weighted higher
than AP, so I was taking college courses since like
(16:06):
eighth grade. Like I read the Odyssey in eighth grade,
I read like every Shakespeare book, like you know, in
like ninth tenth grade, and I was taking all these
college courses, you know, to basically get all the credits
and be able to like get into University of Florida.
(16:27):
So graduated high school. I think I was like twenty
fifth out of like six hundred people. Oh my god, lindsay, yeah,
I used to be really smart.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
You are really smart, but that is so impressive.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I was like opposite of a girl's girl in high school.
I definitely yeah, well you're a girls girl. Well, but
then I went to college and all of a sudden,
like I like hit puberty late in college and I
had boobs and I end up like working at all
the bars and clubs to make money. You know. I
(17:04):
paid my way through my own college. My parents didn't
help me, and like college is expensive and like especially
like a big school like University of Florida. It like it, Yeah,
it was really expensive. I had a lot of student loans,
but I had a great college career, like it was.
I majored in public relations, which even when I picked it,
(17:28):
I was like, what is this. I don't even know
what this is, but sounds cool, you know, maybe I'll
like it. And then of course, it just I realized
it had always come natural to me.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
What do you think it was that came natural to
you about PR?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I think like just my creativity of you know, branding
things or promoting things like I, you know, would always
gravitate towards you know, how to how to hype up
a brand or restaurant or you know company. It was
(18:06):
just like always in me, Like I just you know,
I was hanging out. My boyfriend in college was best
friends with the basketball players, and we had won two
national basketball championships and two National football champions championships. Like
this is like t BO era, but my my boyfriend
in college was best friends with the basketball players, and
(18:27):
like I remember, we were walking down the street with
like Joe Him, Noah and Al Horford and I don't
even know if anyone knows these you know, if the
listeners know, but it was like they were famous in college.
And like I remember, I was so hungry. We were
going to lunch, and like we could not walk more
than twenty feet because these guys were like taking photos
(18:47):
and signing autographs and I was like, okay, no more pictures,
no more autographs. We gotta go, Like like spreading the
crowd so that we could get by, And I was
like kind of good at this.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
No, And I mean it makes so much sense considering
what you do now, you know, and how you went
on to start your own PR agency and how you
really do a lot of PR for yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, but it works with like any brand campaign because
I can speak that language and I know the back
end of it, and I know you know what their
deliverables are, and like you know how to speak to
a brand and like you know what it can offer,
just based off of my PR background.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And absolutely, yeah, it's so important. Like I worked in
advertising straight out of college, and I was interning during
school school. I went to college here. I also worked
all the way through college. I didn't pay my whole
way through college, but I also graduated with a lot
of student loans And you and I can connect on
that and we'll talk about it in a little bit
with the feeling of finally paying them off through being
in this industry. But yeah, like I think having that
(19:51):
PR background that you have, or the advertising background, or
really any sort of corporate kind of setting, it just
helps a lot with the industry and like knowing how
to like talk to clients and you.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Know totally how to navigate, like you know, even even
just like red carpets, like I was running. I was
on the back end, I was behind the camera, but
I was running red carpets in my like young PR
days I lived in I told you I lived in
LA for three and a half years, and I mean
that's like Hollywood, and I represented a lot of like restaurants, lounges, clubs, bars,
(20:25):
and you know, it was part of my job was
to get celebrities to come to your venues. And you know,
if I threw an event like I would have to
run that red carpet and make sure that like you know,
all the media was able to interview the celebrities that
were there. And you know, I had to go to
all of these like events around the world, you know,
(20:47):
from the can Film Festival to you know, the first
Formula one race in Austin to you know, Sundance to whatever.
And it was just like I kind of just always
felt trouble in that world that it was an easy
transition when Summer House happened.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
What was the PR that you were working in when
you first graduated.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, it was like lifestyle, so I did, you know,
I did hospitality, restaurants, lounges, bars, clubs, hotels, but then
I also did like beauty, fashion, consumer goods and yeah,
just more more lifestyle. I think back then when I
first came out of college, it was like I think
we represented MySpace. Yeah, so like even you know, websites
(21:33):
and tech. I've kind of everything. I've done it all
under the lifestyle umbrella. But I loved, loved, loved PR,
and especially back in the day, like I was trained
on traditional PR where I had to really challenge myself
and you know, use my creative mind to write pitches
(21:54):
and press releases that then had to convince you know,
the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times to
right about my clients or get my clients on Bloomberg
or you know, e news like whatever the case was.
Like we had to work really hard to develop those
relationships and also like use our creativity and different pitch
(22:16):
angles to like keep our clients relevant throughout the years.
And it was fun and it was challenging. But Pierre
doesn't make a lot of money, and I'm sure like
you ran into that in the advertising world too, Like
it's very top heavy and when I was starting out
in New York City in two thousand and eight, I
made twenty seven thousand dollars a year. That's insane. Like
(22:39):
to survive in the heart of New York City on
twenty seven thousand dollars a year. Guess what half that
goes to taxes? Now you're looking at like thirteen thousand
dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
It's criminal. And when I first graduated, I think in
twenty When I first graduated in twenty nineteen, and I
technically I graduated graduated in twenty eighteen, I was like
a psycho because I was like, I'm paying for my
last year of college, Like I need to get out
of school as soon as I can, so I kind
of like stacked my classes that I could graduate a
little bit early. But technically, when I graduated in twenty nineteen,
(23:09):
I think I was making like maybe forty or thirty
nine thousand, so like not that much more than what
you were making at the time, and like that amount
of money. I don't even know how I made it work,
but I did, but it was criminal. How much you
get paid, No, it's insane. I think that's like illegal.
Now I don't even know it might have been like
less than minimum wage. Yeah, it's horrible. And then all
(23:31):
of a sudden, at a Bard's end on this time
and guys, for anybody that doesn't know how student loans work,
it's basically six months postgraduating, they kick in and you
can figure out how much you pay. But for me,
it was like five hundred bucks a month I was
paying Yeah, on top of like paying twelve hundred bucks
a month in rent and trying to afford to eat
and figure out how to go out with friends. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, no, I don't even know what I did. I
don't even know if I paid them. I just knew
I had them. Yeah, it's and I was like, can
they still find me?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Right? No? Yeah, but you paid them off though, right eventually? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Well, so when Summerhouse came about, that was the entire
reason I was like, you know, this is going to
be a great way to supplement my income. Is like,
I mean, we obviously didn't make that much money on
season one of Summerhouse, but like in my head, I
was like, I have a student I had like at
that point, thirty thousand dollars more, thirty five thousand dollars
(24:27):
more of student loans that I had to pay off
and PR was not cutting it. I wasn't making enough
money to like, you know, obviously the interest rates are
adding up. It's now been like years. I'm like, oh,
you're working so hard. I'm working so hard at this point,
like you know, I'm starting my own PR firm, but
it's still is just like it's a grind. And so
(24:49):
I really started doing Summerhouse to pay off my student loans.
And it's like for me, it was never like a
fame thing. It was never like I just wanted to
pay my student loans off. And I didn't know how
long it was going to last. Like we thought Summerhouse
was going to last like a year or two. Like
here we are ten years later, and like my mind
(25:10):
is just blown.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Did you start your PR firm before the first you
did season a Summerhouse?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
So I actually had all right. So I worked at
a PR firm with a boss. We had a New
York office in an LA office. I left that PR
firm in August of twenty fourteen to start my own
PR firm with my boyfriend. At the time. He was
(25:48):
a chef and had you know, a bunch of restaurants
in the City, so it was kind of like a
built in client, and we started a PR firm together.
We had a very like tumultuous relationship. Like if anyone's
ever dated a chef, they could probably understand what goes.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
What was tumultuous about dating a chef?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I need to like, they're just they're very interesting people.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
This is kind of a hot topic right now because
I think The Bear, the next season of The Bear
just came out, and I keep seeing videos.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well it's like, i mean, just an obvious, you know
factor is that the hours are very difficult, Like they
work at night and I would work during the day,
so you just kind of don't see each other. And
then you also, I think in that particular relationship, like
(26:41):
he was very controlling, you know, he didn't want me
going out with my girlfriends, and I'm like, dude, you're
working at night, Like I'm gonna go out with my girlfriends.
I was also like in my late twenties and you know,
no like strang and I didn't have a kid, so
and you're working, so course I'm gonna go out with
my girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Throw in to the mix. You're doing PR for him?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, And I'm like doing PR for him. So but yeah,
so I had actually started a PR firm with him
in August of twenty fourteen, and then two years later
we started filming Summerhouse, and he and I had been
broken up, like we were able to like maintain our
(27:27):
you know, PR firm together. He had was fully dating
a girl, like, no problem, I'm okay with it, like
we're cordial, we're friends, and we're running a company together.
But once I started filming Summerhouse, he did not like that.
And I also started dating my boyfriend at that time, Everett,
(27:51):
he was on season one, and that guy did not
like that either. So it was very toxic and so
I sidestepped, left that PR firm with him and started
my own and that was in July of season one,
So July twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Wow, so you were balancing season one of Summerhouse, being
on reality TV for the first time in front of
a camera. Yeah, while building your business.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, and dealing with a toxic X.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
And dealing with a chef. Yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, No, it was kind of wild and like, and
I maintained that PR firm for the first five years
of Summerhouse because again, like it was just it was
always my thing. Like you never know what's going to
happen with reality TV. You never know what's going to
happen with your show. We could have gotten canceled at
any point, and I needed to be smart, like I
(28:44):
needed to you know, I wasn't going to give up
my traditional career, you know, in corporate America because this,
you know, I'm filming a reality show. But slowly and eventually,
like we kind of proved that we had staying power
with Summerhouse, and you know, there was a lot of
hope for longevity, and then COVID hit in twenty twenty,
(29:06):
and you know, you can't really promote restaurants or you know,
brands if no one is going to the restaurants and
if no one is buying anything, because now the whole
world is, you know, confused about what's happening. So I
got put on pause by all of my clients, which
is like completely understandable. Like pr is a luxury for
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a client, and it's a lot of money. You know,
a monthly retainer can be from anywhere from like three
thousand dollars to like twenty thousand dollars. Of course I
didn't have twenty thousand dollars clients I had smaller brands,
but you know, so everyone put me on pause. Totally understandable,
and I kind of looked at that as the opportunity
(29:51):
to really just lean into being Lindsey from Summer House.
You know, brands got really smart to they targeted influencers
at home to promote their products. I was one of those,
you know, influencers that started working with brands during COVID
to you know, kind of go into that route and
(30:14):
lean into it. And then all my clients were like, Okay,
we're ready for pr again, but we have like one
thirtieth of the budget. Like whereas you were paying me
five thousand dollars a month before, you can only pay
me like five hundred bucks a month. And I was like,
this is just not worth my time because like when
(30:34):
I do something, I do it at one hundred you know,
like if you're not able to pay me what it's
actually worth. And I don't know how to like pull
back the reins, like I'm always going to do a
great I'm going to do the job of a twenty
thousand dollars you know, retainer. So yeah, and I just
(30:56):
was like, you know what like this is now the
time Summerhouse is seemingly not going anywhere, and I can
you know, make more money doing brand campaigns.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, and your PR experience, like directly, you know, helped
you know how to brand campaign for sure. What do
you feel like about having a traditional PR background from
like a public facing point of view? How do you
think that helped you when you were on Summerhouse and
like in front of the camera for the first time.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I don't think it helped me at all. In fact,
I probably should have hired a publicist sooner because I
never did personal PR. I never I only ever worked
with brands or you know, hospitality accounts. And the only
time I would, you know, do the personal side of
the PR for an actual person was if it was
(31:51):
the CEO of that company or the chef or the owner,
you know. But I never did personal PR for you know,
people in the entertainment industry. And I think in regards
to me, like I I did not. I never knew
how to do like PR for myself. Like I just
have always been authentically me, take me or leave me good,
(32:14):
good or bad, you know, activated or not screaming about
sandwiches or you know, just being silly and goofy, And
I think in the real world, you know, it's not
always good to you know, have that level of like energy,
(32:35):
you know people. Yeah, but I think like for TV,
you know, it's entertaining, Like people want to see drama,
people want to see people activated.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And let's talk about the premise of Summer House for
people listening that don't know the show and how it
came to be. Can you kind of paint the picture
for us, because I feel like the drama on the
show just naturally comes with the setting that you guys
are in totally. So let's paint the picture if I everybody,
how did Summerhouse come to be? And what is the
premise of the show?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, So in New York, you know, the summer culture
is that we live in the city. We work hard
Monday through Friday, but then on the weekends we all
drive out to the Hamptons on Fridays and share a
house together, party, hookup, and you know, just enjoy the
weekends literally sharing a house in the under the same roof,
(33:29):
you know, every weekend of the summer, which is the
culture of New York. If you're in your twenties and thirties.
It's just it's a it's a lifestyle that we had
been living already. It's a lifestyle that like, you know,
I have have been doing since like two thousand and
seven when I interned in the city.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And that's early. I like I didn't start going to
the I mean I don't go to the Hampton's consistently,
but like last year we did a house in the
Hamptons for the first time with some friends. But like
in my early twenties, I would have never been able
to afford it.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, no, that's why you share houses. I mean some
of these houses are just like I mean, we've slept
on mattresses and a garage before we have you know,
there's been rooms where it's like bunk beds. You're you know,
in a bunk bed with another girl, you know, sharing
a bed. I mean, they like some of these houses
like they just like stack them with people so that
(34:24):
you can afford to pay for a weekend or you know,
a month. But yeah, it started with Kyle and I's
group of friends. You know, this is ten years ago,
and that was like our heyday of partying and going
out in the city and you know, just we like
kind of took over at night. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
And how did you guys know each other?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Just like we had this big peripheral group, so you know,
obviously there's pockets of best friends, but then like you
all know each other. I mean there must have been
like undreds of us that all knew each other because
of going out and you know, having fun and partying
in New York City. So we you know, once the
(35:10):
producers found our group of friends with things to Kyle,
he was like, you need to meet our group of friends.
They just started picking everyone out one by one until
they had the cast. So Summerhouse started with like Kyle
and I as true, you know, group of friends. And
our headset was like, okay, well we do this anyway,
(35:33):
Like fine, if there's a camera there might as well,
Like we're already going to be doing it with or
without the cameras. Me of course, I wanted to pay
off my student loans and yeah, it just you know,
it was a little different because we were used to
like creating our own schedules on the weekends in the Hampton's,
(35:53):
whereas this time around you couldn't. And yeah, and the
surveyalens camera aspect is definitely more unique to Summerhouse than
like most other Bravo shows.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Let's talk about what the surveillance camera is.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Surveillance cameras are like cameras in the corners of the rooms, right,
They're in every single room, They're in all the bedrooms,
they're in the living room, kitchen, and I think what
is so unique and cool about the surveillance cameras is
that it captures very authentic moments. Right, Like we're talking
about summertime in the Hampton's. You're filming around the clock,
(36:34):
you know, Friday nights, all day, Saturday, Saturday night, all
day Sunday. We drink a lot of rose and or
I guess lover boys, or you know, whatever your drink
of choice for the summertime is. So you know, at
the end of the day, when you're like in the
hot sun and you've been drinking rose all day, it
can add to the drama. And the surveillance cameras definitely capture,
(37:00):
you know, that level of authentic behavior. You know, whether
it's someone crying or someone hooking up, or someone getting
into a fight, Like there's no escaping, you know, it's
not like you can wake up the next day and
be like, thank god, no one was there to see that.
(37:21):
Like if you get in a fight with your boyfriend,
you're like, okay, I'm glad we worked through that in private,
like we're gonna keep this between us, not on Summer House.
You're gonna fight with your boyfriend. And it's now everywhere everyone.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Now it's now part of the plot.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
But the producers literally like, what was that like in
those early years of going from like living a private
life to then all of a sudden everything is out
there for the public to see, Like was that a
hard adjustment?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
No, because it was like a slow build, right, Like
I think that people didn't really catch on to Summerhouse
in those early seasons, and you know, which is probably
why we didn't know or think it was going to
go past a couple of seasons. But by season like
four five, we had switched up the cast a little bit,
we started hitting our stride. The COVID season was like,
(38:15):
you know, it was a lot for us in the
house because we were in the house for a month
and a half, like, did not leave, didn't go back
to the city, same group of people, but it made
for really good television, you know. Season four season four
had aired. It was airing right when COVID hit, so
all of a sudden, everybody's at home and they're looking
(38:37):
to discover new television shows. By the time we're filming
season five, it was summer of twenty twenty, in the
middle of COVID, and so I think that's where we
started hitting our stride, and that's when a lot of
discovery was made with new viewers, and I think it's
been up from there. So it was like a slow build,
(38:58):
very gradual, with like the you know, people recognizing us.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
What was the biggest learning curve for you? And maybe
like what did you learn about yourself through being on
the show?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
What did I learn about myself? I mean, here's the thing, Like,
you really should not go on reality TV if you
are very concerned about people's opinions. It's probably a really unhealthy,
you know, career if you are if yeah, if you
mentally or emotionally cannot handle you know, what the world
(39:44):
thinks of you. I think what I learned about myself
is I just don't care what the world thinks of me. Yeah,
I mean, you know, like I truly like show up
and I am just me, which I think was maybe beneficial,
you know, because like my mindset was always like you
know what, like if people don't like me, then I
(40:07):
probably don't like them either, like end of sorry. If
they can see through like some of the bullshit and
like see to like who I truly am, then you know,
chances are yeah, maybe maybe they'll like me. But either way,
like I'm not living this life or you know, presenting
(40:27):
a different version of myself to America or the world,
like you get me as I am. But I think
that works for me. It doesn't work for everyone, Like
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
And like, I think the beauty about reality TV too
is like in the context of what you're talking about,
Like people get to see you in a very natural setting,
right because you're in a house, you're hanging out with
your friends, You're talking to people and communicating with them
the way you would communicate to anybody. Right Like, guys,
Lindsay's sitting here right here with me, you're the same
on the show as you are in person. And I think, yeah,
(40:58):
like like making friends with people in general, it's like
there's people that are going to like you, there's people
that are not gonna like you. But the people that
like you will always back you because Ye're like, no,
I know her. I've seen her vulnerable on the show,
Like I've seen her have real conversation totally. You know,
when it's either like you vibe with like what you're
putting out or you don't. And it's okay if you don't,
you know what I mean, because there's enough people that do.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
And I'm all right, like, you know, if someone's not
my kind of people, like, I'm okay with that, Like
I have enough friends.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, exactly, you have enough supporters, Okay. Well over the years,
I mean, you guys are filming your tenth season right now.
You know, you've dealt with a lot online. We talked
a little bit about Carl during the run. Let's talk
a little bit about what you guys went through and
kind of what that experience was like going through publicly,
you know, and ending an engagement.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, I mean, I can't really speak for him, but
for me personally, it was awful. That was a moment
that like created a lot of adult trauma for me.
I think, like, you know, I always thought that our
relationship it was such a slow build, Like we started
(42:07):
out as friends and we were best friends and we
tried to date. Season four didn't work out, Like he
was still partying and I was not in a place either.
But then you know, then he got sober. Then we tried,
you know, we started dating after filming season six, and
you know, we had been together for a year he proposed,
and then by the next year, like we had been
(42:28):
planning a wedding. So we were, you know, in total
together for two years. But we had formed such a bond,
in a friendship and a best friendship, so I always
felt like our relationship was beyond the show. And when
he made the decision to you know, basically break up
(42:51):
with me out, which was very blindsiding for me, but
like I did not see it coming. I had no
idea that, like, you know, he was even capable of
hurting a friend like that. So, yeah, that breakup and
then like as soon as it happened, thirty minutes later,
(43:14):
it was all over the internet, which means someone leaked
it and it was not me because I was still
trying to process what the hell just happened to me,
So yeah, it was it was like it was pretty bad.
It was one of the most humiliating moments of my life.
(43:34):
Like I I would have thought that he probably could
have like had a conversation with me in private to
at least give me a heads up of, like, you know,
just on a friend level, that he was going to
do this. And you know, when you realize someone has
that little respect for you just as a person, it's
(43:59):
just not a person that I really care to have
in my life. So but it was all for the better, right, Like,
look at where I'm at now, Like that was probably
the best decision that could have ever happened to me.
For me, it was already going to be a very long,
hard road ahead, just based off of you know, his
(44:20):
struggles within you know, you know, understanding his sobriety, and
I think, you know, no matter how much of a
support I was, I it was never enough for him.
And and that's okay, you know, we're not each other's people.
And I just don't even know if he even understands
(44:40):
me as a person in general. But I will say, like,
once I like rearranged and re reframed, you know, the
entire breakup in my head, I was able to you know,
put one foot in front of the other and just
start slowly like pushing my I sell forward and you know,
(45:02):
which then led me to my baby daddy and then
led me to my baby, which was always my ultimate goal.
And I feel like I was able to accomplish. I
bought a house in Nashville, which I don't think I
would have done if I was still inside of that relationship.
You know, I was able to like accomplish a lot
(45:25):
of like my personal goals and dreams and ambitions that
I was able to make come true.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
It is so crazy, like whenever I think about life,
like I sometimes think about all the different kind of
paths that you can take, and it is wild that
you know, when one door closes, another one really does open.
And yeah, like it led you to Gemma and now
you have family and yeah, but women are strong as hell.
And I think, seriously, the most impressive thing about you
is that you are able to go back on that show,
(45:54):
continue filming and just do your things.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I've always sort of been that way, right, Like, you know, sure,
I have accidentally caused drama for plenty of years. I've
fought with so many boyfriends. I step and shit a
lot wherever I go, which you know, causes a lot
of chaos. But ultimately, like you know, I'm just sort
(46:18):
of like in my own on my own path and
on my own journey, and like the whole world has
literally witnessed me growing up on national television.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
My entire thirties have been spent on Summer House. And
those are the years that we in New York are
finally growing up. Like, you know, a lot of people
in other areas grow up a lot faster than us here,
but our thirties is where we are just like trying
to learn how to be adults. And like the whole
world came along for every journey of mine. And I think,
(46:53):
you know, it's relatable, you know, because whatever I've gone through,
I've shared it with everyone.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, And there's a beautiful thing in that. And there's
so many people that relate to your story and have
been through similar experiences, you know. And I think that's
the cool thing about your position is like and you're
you know what you've been through is you're able to
connect with so many people that have gone through similar
experiences and you're you kind of are a figurehead of
letting them feel less alone. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
But and vice versa, Like people share with me so
much on Instagram, and you know, I love reading their
stories because it also makes me feel less alone, and
that's like a really fun and great community to be
a part of.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
What was it like announcing your pregnancy last season?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
So Carl was not there the night I announced it,
and that was by design by me, because it just
wasn't about him, you know, like this was my biggest
announcement of my entire life. I was like terrified. I
prepared this in this entire speech that went on for
forever because I just was like trying to memorize it
(48:01):
and you know, didn't want anyone to know what I
was actually going to say, and yeah, wound up going
on forever. But I yeah, I was like I was.
I was a ball of nerves before announcing it, but
because I knew, you know, based off of being scared
for something to leak, that as soon as I announced
(48:22):
it to my cast mates, I was going to have
to announce it to the world. So I had like
two different, like you know modes going of announcing and
I was just, yeah, I was. I had a lot
of anxiety and nerves, but it wound up being a
beautiful thing and it was very freeing, you know, like
when you get pregnant you're like first trimester, you have
(48:43):
to keep it private for so many reasons, or you
don't have to, but a lot of women do just
to make sure that they have a healthy pregnancy, that
you know they're gonna make it through the genetic screening,
you know, after twelve weeks. And I had a miscarriage before,
so I was terrified in my first trimester that like,
(49:04):
you know, is this going to be viable? Am I
going to have another miscarriage? And you know, I was scared.
So yeah, it was very freeing when I was when
I finally announced and I was able to like celebrate
publicly and openly, you know, this beautiful life that I
was creating.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Absolutely. What was it like filming the show while pregnant?
Was it?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I had so much fun? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:28):
It was your first sober season.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah yeah, and probably like it was probably time. But no,
I I had I had like a real I just
had a really good pregnancy. I was blessed with like
an easy pregnancy. I didn't get sickness or anything. And
I was in the sweet spot of like being in
my second trimester. I wasn't in my first. I wasn't
(49:52):
in my third where I'm like waddling everywhere and dying
of heat. But I was, Yeah, I was in the
sweet spot of being in the second trimester. I had
a lot of energy, and you, as a viewer, got
to like physically watch me growing, Like every week I
would come and like I was like a little bit bigger,
a little bit bigger. She had started kicking towards the
(50:14):
end of summer, so that was like fun and I
was able to share that experience with everyone in the house.
Like I it was never just me alone pregnant physically,
I was the only pregnant one, but I felt like
the whole house was like really, you know, celebrating with
me every little milestone of pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
December twenty twenty four, you welcome, Gemma. How has becoming
a mom changed your world?
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I went on a date the other day and I
like looked at the guy and I was like, you
you can ask me questions that you might be thinking,
because I've been through a lot over the last two years, right,
And he was like, how has been a mom changed you?
And I was like, wow, that is deep and that
is creative. So points for creativity, but you know what
(51:02):
it is, It's just such a different world. I think that,
like I have a very different lens in every decision
that I make. It's always putting jim a first, even
if that means I have to sacrifice like my comfort
or you know, my personal ones and needs. It's always about,
(51:23):
you know, making sure she has everything that she needs
and wants to to you know, be as happy and
healthy as she is. I think, you know, obviously I
I don't go out as much. I can't really leave
my house, Like I put my daughter to bed every
single night at six thirty seven, and you know, I'm
(51:44):
in the room next door watching Love Island. But yeah,
I don't know. I think that, like I'm a lot
more patient, not even just because of having a kid, right,
but I think just through the whole process, in every
step of the way, patient with myself as a new
(52:06):
mom and all of the physical, emotional and mental changes
I've gone through. But yeah, of course, like you know,
patient when you have like a baby. I think, yeah,
I don't know. And I just and I think that
I like I have this like softer, more emotional side
(52:28):
where I'm like very much easier to cry and celebrate
emotions that you know, I didn't I It's not not
that like I never cried, but like I definitely cry
a lot more and for all different reasons, whether it's
happiness or sadness or you know, just celebrating a friend.
(52:53):
So so yeah, it's interesting. But I think I think it'll,
like you know, continue to evolve as I continue to
you be a mom.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
What advice would you give to someone who feels like
they're starting over? Maybe career wise, relationship wise, or personally.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
I mean, how refreshing? Like you have to look at
it as like a refreshing moment that was much needed,
and like, you know, use it as like a springboard.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
I love the word refreshing. What's one boundary you have
set in work, life or love and friendships that's changed
your life?
Speaker 2 (53:28):
I yeah, one boundary. I guess I haven't really had
a lot of boundaries in life. I should probably have
more boundaries, have more boundaries. Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
For anyone who's feeling stuck, what's one small thing that
they can do this week to move forward?
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Go on a run or exercise? Yeah, now you've inspired me.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
We're getting Lindsay back into her.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
No, you are, This journey starts now?
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah? Perfect? Okay, And lastly, what do you want Gemma
to take away from watching your journy when she watches
it back someday.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
I think how to be a strong independent woman, which
she is already a very strong independent baby, but you know,
just I want her to be like proud that like
I've done everything for myself. I've never been given anything
in life. I've worked my ass off, and you know
I want to be able to inspire her in that kind.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Of way you will.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, thank you, So this was fun.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
This was so fun. Thank you guys so much for
listening to today's conversation. I hope you loved it as
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(54:49):
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much for tuning in.
Hi, guys, welcome back to Post Run High. I am
so excited for today's episode. We've got Lindsay Hubbard coming on.
She's a TV personality, entrepreneur, and fan favorite on Bravo's
Summer House. We started our day with a run before
sitting down to chat, and as always, it was the
perfect way to set the tone for our conversation that
you guys are about to listen to today. We talk
about how Lindsay first got her start here in New York.
(00:27):
From building her career in PR to finding her voice
on reality TV to being open about love, friendships, and
everything in between. Lindsay has always put it all out there,
and I think you guys are going to really appreciate
the vulnerability and honesty that she brings to today's conversation.
Without further ado, let's get our Post Run High go
in and let's get into our conversation with Lindsay. Lindsay,
(00:58):
Welcome to Post Run High.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh my god, I just went to the bathroom and
I almost laid under the hand drier.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You know, it's funny whenever, So we started with the run.
We started all of our interviews with the run, and
it's very hot. In New York right now. And I
always wonder when people come back to the studio, like
if you're in the bathroom like splashing their face with water.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
No, I did look at my face and I was like,
who needs highlighter when you have sweat?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We have a natural glow.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And we've got the post run high going, which you're
an athlete like, no better feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Uh yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Have you ever done an interview sweaty before?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
No? No, not on purpose?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I feel good, I feel alive. I feel like that
was like the jump start to my new fitness journey.
Running on a treadmill inside with Ac.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We actually have a version of the show in the
winter that we do sometimes on treadmills because when it's
like fifteen degrees in New York, I just can't do it,
Like I literally cannot be in the cold. My body
shuts down. But I hate running on a treadm.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Like, no, it's boring, it's so boring. Like I mean,
are you a podcast on the treadmill or like a
TV show on the treadmill? Like what kind of tread
if you are forced to run on a chreadmill and
you're not interviewing somebody.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So on the rare occasion that I'm forced to run
on a treadmill, like if it's sobered all outside or
like it's pouring rain and I'm like I have to
work out. Like typically I won't go to the gym,
like unless I really feel like.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I need to, Like I just avoid it altogether.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, Like, I like, I like running outside. I like
going to like fitness classes with my friends. But if
I'm on the treadmill, rare occasion, I'm catching up on
Chloe Kardashian's podcast video version on YouTube, and I'm watching
it like TV.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, so you have the video and the sound. I
I recently, I mean I'm not I haven't been on
a chreadmill in a while, but like the last time
I was on a treadmill, I was listening to a podcast.
It makes it go by so much faster because you're
just like absorbing and your mind is distracted from like
how many lack of miles you've gone.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, I hope some of the people listening are listening
to this while working out.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Would I agree they are?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, just know that Linz keep going, Everyone keep going.
Lindsay and I just worked out, so we're here to
tell you that there's light at the end of the dome.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah. I laughed at Kate when she said how many miles?
And then we went over one mile, so mission accomplished.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, I mean, come on. So I liked finding out
that you were a soccer player growing up, So you
are an athlete, but you just had a baby recently.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Which is like a sport in and of itself. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And I also feel like with fitness, there's like different
chapters of people's lives, and movement fits in differently in
all of those chapters. So like where would you say
you're at right now movement wise, Like what does it
look like in your life right now?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I just moved downtown, so like I've been like so
focused on this move I have a very long hallway
in my apartment, so the most exercise I get is
like walking back and forth, which, by the way, like
it's it is a lot of steps.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Especially when you're holding a baby.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, especially when you're holding a twenty pound baby. But
I am I'm ready to like get back into something.
I think I'm gonna start small and maybe like do pilates,
But I am traditionally a runner, Like I grew up
playing sports, playing soccer. You know, soccer is like a
huge running sport. So I've always loved running for just
(04:28):
the mental health aspect of it, but also you know,
the physical benefits and the stamina. But yeah, maybe it'll
wait till it like cools down a little bit more
for my running journey to start back up. But yeah,
I think I'm like ready to explore the fitness studios
and Trybecca.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I feel like it's good to like ease yourself back in. Yeah,
and no better way than with ploates. But it is
so true like when you grow up an athlete, like
I was the same way. I was always on sports
teams growing up. And so now movement is in my
life in like different ways, and it like comes in waves.
But I feel like it'll always be like a piece
of me, Like I need to move my body in
some sort of way or sweat or just like get
(05:09):
myself going so that I can like accomplish it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
No, I looked at my ass the other day in
the mirror and I was like, what I need to
do something like no, like squads. I was a big, big,
big berries girl for a couple of years. Like I
was at Berries for like I don't know, four or
five days a week.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Berries is intense.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's so intense, but like I like intense activity.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
For everybody listening, you're one of the OG Summer House
cast members. Summerhouse is a big reality show on Bravo TV.
It's actually one of the only reality shows that I've watched.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh really, yes, Oh yeah, because you don't watch Love Islent,
which I do need to watch, which you need to start. Yeah,
and I am until Summerhouse comes back on.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah. When does Summer House come back on?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Usually in like the winter time, so like January.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
February exactly, because you guys are filming right now. Yeah,
going into filming a show like that in the summer,
right you're in bathing suits, like you're you know, summer
clothes or summer clothes. Like, what did your fitness routine
typically look like going into like shooting.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Back in the day, I used to, you know a
month before, like really amp up on exercise and eating
healthy and not drinking. I think these days, I'm just
like trying to survive. Yeah, most days, I like survive
and survive on like a glass of wine at the
end of the day, after I get my daughter to bed,
(06:35):
I'm like, I need wine.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, take my mind off of this immediate yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Literally, so so yeah. I don't know. I guess I
could eat a little bit healthier, but I definitely was
way more into it when I was younger. I think
now I just have a little bit more confidence. I've
always been like a pretty self confident person, especially just
like just physically, like if I had gained weight, if
(07:01):
I had lost weight, Like I always felt good in
my skin for the most part. But being a new mom,
like all of a sudden, I was like, all right,
what is my body gonna look like? Am I gonna
bounce back? Am I gonna you know, like need to
like step it up again? And I think I can.
I think I can step it up again.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah. And like for for women listening that you know,
or even like men that have wives that are like
pregnant or going through the process of like postpartum, and
even for me as somebody that like wants to have
a baby relatively soon, Like what would you say the
months post having a baby have been like.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
They were wild? You know. Postpartum is like no joke.
And I am lucky because I'm you know, I didn't
really suffer from postpartum depression, but I did have you know,
in the beginning, I had body image issues because your
body just goes through so much, like I especially towards
the end when your baby's like full baked and I'm
(08:00):
out to hear I gained sixty pounds during my pregnancy,
and you know, then afterwards, you're like, you know, people
just think that you have a baby, and then you're
flat again, like your stomach is flat and you're back
to what you looked like before you're pregnant. But it
takes it takes a while. Your your body is raging
(08:23):
with hormones. You're trying to figure out, like, you know,
the the feeding journey that you want to put your
baby on, whether it's breastfeeding or pumping or both or
you know, combo feeding with formula. It's a lot of
pressure for new moms, and you know, and then on
top of that, like I was having an identity crisis
of like, okay, you know, who am i I'm now
(08:47):
a mom? Like that add that to like, you know,
one of my titles, but like I need to gain
experience and confidence as a mom. And you know, but
what does that mean for my future? Where's my career?
You're going? Am I going to be on summer House?
Am I not going to be on summer house? Like
you know, it's not exactly an environment, you know where
(09:08):
you can bring a baby to the summer house and
like live there. So you know, there was like a
lot of question marks. It was a huge transitional year
for me from you know, having a baby and becoming
a mom, but then also like question mark, question mark,
question mark about my career, and I think that's where
I struggled the most. You know, as a career oriented
(09:30):
and driven person. You know, my career has always been
important to me, so you know, not knowing where that
was going, you like really have to trust in the
universe that it's all going to work out and everything
happens for a reason, which is why you know, that's
kind of my motto is just like you know, really
just trust the process and it's all it's all going
(09:51):
to be. Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
It's so true and like you're in such an exciting
new chapter of your life. But yeah, it is crazy,
like you bring a new life into the world and
all of a sudden, like your priorities chain. But at
the same time, it's like you have your job, you
have your career, you have your show. And I think
what's so cool is we were talking about this on the run,
but I didn't realize this until last night when I
was like doing a little bit of research. But July fourth,
(10:13):
twenty twenty four is when you announce to your cast
mates that you were pregnant. Yeah, it is July first,
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Your baby insane seven months almost seven months. Sunday, she'll
be seven months old, which is like crazy, it's so true.
You literally blink and you're like, whoa. She's already trying
to crawl. She's like standing up in her crib, Like
in the mornings, she'll lift herself up. She's so strong.
But it's like so many milestones in the first year,
(10:41):
and it's such a beautiful process to and you know,
like to experience and witness and she's just she's the
best baby. But yeah, like you know, there's nothing better.
Like basically all the cliches you know that they say
about you know, how being a kid, they're all true,
(11:02):
Like you know, the the one that's like it's a love,
like you've never felt before, and you're like, Okay, we
get it relaxed, Like no, it's so true. It is
a love like you've never felt before. Your heart expands
in a way that like you know, is just so
fulfilling in your life. It's also you get like more protective,
(11:24):
where you know, every decision you make comes with your
child's safety first and foremost, you know. But it's also
like highly motivating, like I was just telling you, you know,
since having Gemma seven months ago, like I've worked harder
and more than ever. Like I was literally on my
(11:44):
hospital bed having like given birth twenty four hours ago
doing a Jimmy John's you know ad as like my
first meal post you know, delivery, so and then in
January and like the heart of post part of and
like you know, in the throes of like new parenthood,
I had more brand campaigns than ever before. So yeah,
(12:08):
it's a motivation personally to like, you know, do more
and and and be better.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Definitely. I mean be better is like I think the
biggest thing, because I feel like having a baby become
so much more selfless, you know, and it's like your
life is no longer just revolving around yourself, like there's
literally a human being that you're raising that you know, yeah,
working hard for so.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Well, and that's like you you as as a woman
and especially like a very social girl who would just
like pick up and go like meet my girlfriends for
a glass of wine or a dinner in the neighborhood.
Like that was always my thing. Is Like you know,
my girlfriends would call it like eight pm and they're like,
let's go get a glass of wine or let's go
to dinner. Like you can't do that anymore, and you know,
(12:52):
you're just trying to like figure out this new cadence
of life as you know, a new mom and that
like it really took a while, but you're mourning the
loss of who you were before. Like I can sit
here and tell you, yeah, there are definite like elements
of like my personality and you know, being driven and
(13:13):
you know, outgoing and outspoken, but I am a very
different person like sitting here today than I what would
have been a year ago.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
If you could go back and tell your you know
self a year ago July fourth, twenty twenty four, one thing,
like what would it be?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I guess that like it's gonna be challenging, but you're
gonna you're gonna figure it out. And you always do,
you know, like there's something about me, like I always
land on my feet because I refuse to accept like defeat.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You know, yeah, no, you can tell. And this show
is all about movement, and we love covering stories of
people that really just show the power of movement and
the idea that you if you just keep going, like yeah, succeed.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know, literally one foot in front of the other.
Every aspect of life.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Every aspect of life. Yeah, And like I just love
how the word movement transfers into so many different things
really not just about the physical activity, which obviously we
always start with, but it's so much more than that.
And I want to bring everybody back so that we
can get to know you from the ground up. Can
you paint the picture a little bit more for us
of where you grew up in Florida, what your early
(14:34):
life was like, and like what young Lindsay was.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Like, Yeah, I mean I grew up in Hobe Sound, Florida.
It was like it's a really really small town that
not a lot of people had heard of. But if
you're a big golfer or your husband or boyfriend loves
the golf, like they'll definitely know it. It's a golf community.
But I did not play golf, Like I was a
(14:59):
tom Boy. My you know, brother played baseball. My dad
you know, coached, and I just like loved doing everything
that my brother did. At one point, like he went
to high school and he was a ROTC. So I
was like, well, I'm going to be an ROTC because
I wanted to do everything that my brother did. He
(15:20):
was a year older than me. But yeah, I had
like a you know, pretty good childhood, like normal, comfortable,
you know, household with you know, I think, just like
a normal childhood. And then I was always very into
my academics. Like I knew I really wanted to go
(15:42):
to college. I wanted to go to like, you know,
a big state school, and the only way to really
do that was to focus on my academics. You know,
I did play soccer my whole life, but then I
had to quit so I could focus. I was in
the International Baccalaureate program, which is based LEE weighted higher
than AP, so I was taking college courses since like
(16:06):
eighth grade. Like I read the Odyssey in eighth grade,
I read like every Shakespeare book, like you know, in
like ninth tenth grade, and I was taking all these
college courses, you know, to basically get all the credits
and be able to like get into University of Florida.
(16:27):
So graduated high school. I think I was like twenty
fifth out of like six hundred people. Oh my god, lindsay, yeah,
I used to be really smart.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
You are really smart, but that is so impressive.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I was like opposite of a girl's girl in high school.
I definitely yeah, well you're a girls girl. Well, but
then I went to college and all of a sudden,
like I like hit puberty late in college and I
had boobs and I end up like working at all
the bars and clubs to make money. You know. I
(17:04):
paid my way through my own college. My parents didn't
help me, and like college is expensive and like especially
like a big school like University of Florida. It like it, Yeah,
it was really expensive. I had a lot of student loans,
but I had a great college career, like it was.
I majored in public relations, which even when I picked it,
(17:28):
I was like, what is this. I don't even know
what this is, but sounds cool, you know, maybe I'll
like it. And then of course, it just I realized
it had always come natural to me.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
What do you think it was that came natural to
you about PR?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I think like just my creativity of you know, branding
things or promoting things like I, you know, would always
gravitate towards you know, how to how to hype up
a brand or restaurant or you know company. It was
(18:06):
just like always in me, Like I just you know,
I was hanging out. My boyfriend in college was best
friends with the basketball players, and we had won two
national basketball championships and two National football champions championships. Like
this is like t BO era, but my my boyfriend
in college was best friends with the basketball players, and
(18:27):
like I remember, we were walking down the street with
like Joe Him, Noah and Al Horford and I don't
even know if anyone knows these you know, if the
listeners know, but it was like they were famous in college.
And like I remember, I was so hungry. We were
going to lunch, and like we could not walk more
than twenty feet because these guys were like taking photos
(18:47):
and signing autographs and I was like, okay, no more pictures,
no more autographs. We gotta go, Like like spreading the
crowd so that we could get by, And I was
like kind of good at this.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
No, And I mean it makes so much sense considering
what you do now, you know, and how you went
on to start your own PR agency and how you
really do a lot of PR for yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, but it works with like any brand campaign because
I can speak that language and I know the back
end of it, and I know you know what their
deliverables are, and like you know how to speak to
a brand and like you know what it can offer,
just based off of my PR background.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And absolutely, yeah, it's so important. Like I worked in
advertising straight out of college, and I was interning during
school school. I went to college here. I also worked
all the way through college. I didn't pay my whole
way through college, but I also graduated with a lot
of student loans And you and I can connect on
that and we'll talk about it in a little bit
with the feeling of finally paying them off through being
in this industry. But yeah, like I think having that
(19:51):
PR background that you have, or the advertising background, or
really any sort of corporate kind of setting, it just
helps a lot with the industry and like knowing how
to like talk to clients and you.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Know totally how to navigate, like you know, even even
just like red carpets, like I was running. I was
on the back end, I was behind the camera, but
I was running red carpets in my like young PR
days I lived in I told you I lived in
LA for three and a half years, and I mean
that's like Hollywood, and I represented a lot of like restaurants, lounges, clubs, bars,
(20:25):
and you know, it was part of my job was
to get celebrities to come to your venues. And you know,
if I threw an event like I would have to
run that red carpet and make sure that like you know,
all the media was able to interview the celebrities that
were there. And you know, I had to go to
all of these like events around the world, you know,
(20:47):
from the can Film Festival to you know, the first
Formula one race in Austin to you know, Sundance to whatever.
And it was just like I kind of just always
felt trouble in that world that it was an easy
transition when Summer House happened.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
What was the PR that you were working in when
you first graduated.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, it was like lifestyle, so I did, you know,
I did hospitality, restaurants, lounges, bars, clubs, hotels, but then
I also did like beauty, fashion, consumer goods and yeah,
just more more lifestyle. I think back then when I
first came out of college, it was like I think
we represented MySpace. Yeah, so like even you know, websites
(21:33):
and tech. I've kind of everything. I've done it all
under the lifestyle umbrella. But I loved, loved, loved PR,
and especially back in the day, like I was trained
on traditional PR where I had to really challenge myself
and you know, use my creative mind to write pitches
(21:54):
and press releases that then had to convince you know,
the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times to
right about my clients or get my clients on Bloomberg
or you know, e news like whatever the case was.
Like we had to work really hard to develop those
relationships and also like use our creativity and different pitch
(22:16):
angles to like keep our clients relevant throughout the years.
And it was fun and it was challenging. But Pierre
doesn't make a lot of money, and I'm sure like
you ran into that in the advertising world too, Like
it's very top heavy and when I was starting out
in New York City in two thousand and eight, I
made twenty seven thousand dollars a year. That's insane. Like
(22:39):
to survive in the heart of New York City on
twenty seven thousand dollars a year. Guess what half that
goes to taxes? Now you're looking at like thirteen thousand
dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
It's criminal. And when I first graduated, I think in
twenty When I first graduated in twenty nineteen, and I
technically I graduated graduated in twenty eighteen, I was like
a psycho because I was like, I'm paying for my
last year of college, Like I need to get out
of school as soon as I can, so I kind
of like stacked my classes that I could graduate a
little bit early. But technically, when I graduated in twenty nineteen,
(23:09):
I think I was making like maybe forty or thirty
nine thousand, so like not that much more than what
you were making at the time, and like that amount
of money. I don't even know how I made it work,
but I did, but it was criminal. How much you
get paid, No, it's insane. I think that's like illegal.
Now I don't even know it might have been like
less than minimum wage. Yeah, it's horrible. And then all
(23:31):
of a sudden, at a Bard's end on this time
and guys, for anybody that doesn't know how student loans work,
it's basically six months postgraduating, they kick in and you
can figure out how much you pay. But for me,
it was like five hundred bucks a month I was
paying Yeah, on top of like paying twelve hundred bucks
a month in rent and trying to afford to eat
and figure out how to go out with friends. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, no, I don't even know what I did. I
don't even know if I paid them. I just knew
I had them. Yeah, it's and I was like, can
they still find me?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Right? No? Yeah, but you paid them off though, right eventually? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Well, so when Summerhouse came about, that was the entire
reason I was like, you know, this is going to
be a great way to supplement my income. Is like,
I mean, we obviously didn't make that much money on
season one of Summerhouse, but like in my head, I
was like, I have a student I had like at
that point, thirty thousand dollars more, thirty five thousand dollars
(24:27):
more of student loans that I had to pay off
and PR was not cutting it. I wasn't making enough
money to like, you know, obviously the interest rates are
adding up. It's now been like years. I'm like, oh,
you're working so hard. I'm working so hard at this point,
like you know, I'm starting my own PR firm, but
it's still is just like it's a grind. And so
(24:49):
I really started doing Summerhouse to pay off my student loans.
And it's like for me, it was never like a
fame thing. It was never like I just wanted to
pay my student loans off. And I didn't know how
long it was going to last. Like we thought Summerhouse
was going to last like a year or two. Like
here we are ten years later, and like my mind
(25:10):
is just blown.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Did you start your PR firm before the first you
did season a Summerhouse?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
So I actually had all right. So I worked at
a PR firm with a boss. We had a New
York office in an LA office. I left that PR
firm in August of twenty fourteen to start my own
PR firm with my boyfriend. At the time. He was
(25:48):
a chef and had you know, a bunch of restaurants
in the City, so it was kind of like a
built in client, and we started a PR firm together.
We had a very like tumultuous relationship. Like if anyone's
ever dated a chef, they could probably understand what goes.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
What was tumultuous about dating a chef?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I need to like, they're just they're very interesting people.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
This is kind of a hot topic right now because
I think The Bear, the next season of The Bear
just came out, and I keep seeing videos.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well it's like, i mean, just an obvious, you know
factor is that the hours are very difficult, Like they
work at night and I would work during the day,
so you just kind of don't see each other. And
then you also, I think in that particular relationship, like
(26:41):
he was very controlling, you know, he didn't want me
going out with my girlfriends, and I'm like, dude, you're
working at night, Like I'm gonna go out with my girlfriends.
I was also like in my late twenties and you know,
no like strang and I didn't have a kid, so
and you're working, so course I'm gonna go out with
my girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Throw in to the mix. You're doing PR for him?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, And I'm like doing PR for him. So but yeah,
so I had actually started a PR firm with him
in August of twenty fourteen, and then two years later
we started filming Summerhouse, and he and I had been
broken up, like we were able to like maintain our
(27:27):
you know, PR firm together. He had was fully dating
a girl, like, no problem, I'm okay with it, like
we're cordial, we're friends, and we're running a company together.
But once I started filming Summerhouse, he did not like that.
And I also started dating my boyfriend at that time, Everett,
(27:51):
he was on season one, and that guy did not
like that either. So it was very toxic and so
I sidestepped, left that PR firm with him and started
my own and that was in July of season one,
So July twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Wow, so you were balancing season one of Summerhouse, being
on reality TV for the first time in front of
a camera. Yeah, while building your business.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, and dealing with a toxic X.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
And dealing with a chef. Yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, No, it was kind of wild and like, and
I maintained that PR firm for the first five years
of Summerhouse because again, like it was just it was
always my thing. Like you never know what's going to
happen with reality TV. You never know what's going to
happen with your show. We could have gotten canceled at
any point, and I needed to be smart, like I
(28:44):
needed to you know, I wasn't going to give up
my traditional career, you know, in corporate America because this,
you know, I'm filming a reality show. But slowly and eventually,
like we kind of proved that we had staying power
with Summerhouse, and you know, there was a lot of
hope for longevity, and then COVID hit in twenty twenty,
(29:06):
and you know, you can't really promote restaurants or you know,
brands if no one is going to the restaurants and
if no one is buying anything, because now the whole
world is, you know, confused about what's happening. So I
got put on pause by all of my clients, which
is like completely understandable. Like pr is a luxury for
(29:29):
a client, and it's a lot of money. You know,
a monthly retainer can be from anywhere from like three
thousand dollars to like twenty thousand dollars. Of course I
didn't have twenty thousand dollars clients I had smaller brands,
but you know, so everyone put me on pause. Totally understandable,
and I kind of looked at that as the opportunity
(29:51):
to really just lean into being Lindsey from Summer House.
You know, brands got really smart to they targeted influencers
at home to promote their products. I was one of those,
you know, influencers that started working with brands during COVID
to you know, kind of go into that route and
(30:14):
lean into it. And then all my clients were like, Okay,
we're ready for pr again, but we have like one
thirtieth of the budget. Like whereas you were paying me
five thousand dollars a month before, you can only pay
me like five hundred bucks a month. And I was like,
this is just not worth my time because like when
(30:34):
I do something, I do it at one hundred you know,
like if you're not able to pay me what it's
actually worth. And I don't know how to like pull
back the reins, like I'm always going to do a
great I'm going to do the job of a twenty
thousand dollars you know, retainer. So yeah, and I just
(30:56):
was like, you know what like this is now the
time Summerhouse is seemingly not going anywhere, and I can
you know, make more money doing brand campaigns.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, and your PR experience, like directly, you know, helped
you know how to brand campaign for sure. What do
you feel like about having a traditional PR background from
like a public facing point of view? How do you
think that helped you when you were on Summerhouse and
like in front of the camera for the first time.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I don't think it helped me at all. In fact,
I probably should have hired a publicist sooner because I
never did personal PR. I never I only ever worked
with brands or you know, hospitality accounts. And the only
time I would, you know, do the personal side of
the PR for an actual person was if it was
(31:51):
the CEO of that company or the chef or the owner,
you know. But I never did personal PR for you know,
people in the entertainment industry. And I think in regards
to me, like I I did not. I never knew
how to do like PR for myself. Like I just
have always been authentically me, take me or leave me good,
(32:14):
good or bad, you know, activated or not screaming about
sandwiches or you know, just being silly and goofy, And
I think in the real world, you know, it's not
always good to you know, have that level of like energy,
(32:35):
you know people. Yeah, but I think like for TV,
you know, it's entertaining, Like people want to see drama,
people want to see people activated.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And let's talk about the premise of Summer House for
people listening that don't know the show and how it
came to be. Can you kind of paint the picture
for us, because I feel like the drama on the
show just naturally comes with the setting that you guys
are in totally. So let's paint the picture if I everybody,
how did Summerhouse come to be? And what is the
premise of the show?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, So in New York, you know, the summer culture
is that we live in the city. We work hard
Monday through Friday, but then on the weekends we all
drive out to the Hamptons on Fridays and share a
house together, party, hookup, and you know, just enjoy the
weekends literally sharing a house in the under the same roof,
(33:29):
you know, every weekend of the summer, which is the
culture of New York. If you're in your twenties and thirties.
It's just it's a it's a lifestyle that we had
been living already. It's a lifestyle that like, you know,
I have have been doing since like two thousand and
seven when I interned in the city.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And that's early. I like I didn't start going to
the I mean I don't go to the Hampton's consistently,
but like last year we did a house in the
Hamptons for the first time with some friends. But like
in my early twenties, I would have never been able
to afford it.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, no, that's why you share houses. I mean some
of these houses are just like I mean, we've slept
on mattresses and a garage before we have you know,
there's been rooms where it's like bunk beds. You're you know,
in a bunk bed with another girl, you know, sharing
a bed. I mean, they like some of these houses
like they just like stack them with people so that
(34:24):
you can afford to pay for a weekend or you know,
a month. But yeah, it started with Kyle and I's
group of friends. You know, this is ten years ago,
and that was like our heyday of partying and going
out in the city and you know, just we like
kind of took over at night. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
And how did you guys know each other?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Just like we had this big peripheral group, so you know,
obviously there's pockets of best friends, but then like you
all know each other. I mean there must have been
like undreds of us that all knew each other because
of going out and you know, having fun and partying
in New York City. So we you know, once the
(35:10):
producers found our group of friends with things to Kyle,
he was like, you need to meet our group of friends.
They just started picking everyone out one by one until
they had the cast. So Summerhouse started with like Kyle
and I as true, you know, group of friends. And
our headset was like, okay, well we do this anyway,
(35:33):
Like fine, if there's a camera there might as well,
Like we're already going to be doing it with or
without the cameras. Me of course, I wanted to pay
off my student loans and yeah, it just you know,
it was a little different because we were used to
like creating our own schedules on the weekends in the Hampton's,
(35:53):
whereas this time around you couldn't. And yeah, and the
surveyalens camera aspect is definitely more unique to Summerhouse than
like most other Bravo shows.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Let's talk about what the surveillance camera is.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Surveillance cameras are like cameras in the corners of the rooms, right,
They're in every single room, They're in all the bedrooms,
they're in the living room, kitchen, and I think what
is so unique and cool about the surveillance cameras is
that it captures very authentic moments. Right, Like we're talking
about summertime in the Hampton's. You're filming around the clock,
(36:34):
you know, Friday nights, all day, Saturday, Saturday night, all
day Sunday. We drink a lot of rose and or
I guess lover boys, or you know, whatever your drink
of choice for the summertime is. So you know, at
the end of the day, when you're like in the
hot sun and you've been drinking rose all day, it
can add to the drama. And the surveillance cameras definitely capture,
(37:00):
you know, that level of authentic behavior. You know, whether
it's someone crying or someone hooking up, or someone getting
into a fight, Like there's no escaping, you know, it's
not like you can wake up the next day and
be like, thank god, no one was there to see that.
(37:21):
Like if you get in a fight with your boyfriend,
you're like, okay, I'm glad we worked through that in private,
like we're gonna keep this between us, not on Summer House.
You're gonna fight with your boyfriend. And it's now everywhere everyone.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Now it's now part of the plot.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
But the producers literally like, what was that like in
those early years of going from like living a private
life to then all of a sudden everything is out
there for the public to see, Like was that a
hard adjustment?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
No, because it was like a slow build, right, Like
I think that people didn't really catch on to Summerhouse
in those early seasons, and you know, which is probably
why we didn't know or think it was going to
go past a couple of seasons. But by season like
four five, we had switched up the cast a little bit,
we started hitting our stride. The COVID season was like,
(38:15):
you know, it was a lot for us in the
house because we were in the house for a month
and a half, like, did not leave, didn't go back
to the city, same group of people, but it made
for really good television, you know. Season four season four
had aired. It was airing right when COVID hit, so
all of a sudden, everybody's at home and they're looking
(38:37):
to discover new television shows. By the time we're filming
season five, it was summer of twenty twenty, in the
middle of COVID, and so I think that's where we
started hitting our stride, and that's when a lot of
discovery was made with new viewers, and I think it's
been up from there. So it was like a slow build,
(38:58):
very gradual, with like the you know, people recognizing us.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
What was the biggest learning curve for you? And maybe
like what did you learn about yourself through being on
the show?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
What did I learn about myself? I mean, here's the thing, Like,
you really should not go on reality TV if you
are very concerned about people's opinions. It's probably a really unhealthy,
you know, career if you are if yeah, if you
mentally or emotionally cannot handle you know, what the world
(39:44):
thinks of you. I think what I learned about myself
is I just don't care what the world thinks of me. Yeah,
I mean, you know, like I truly like show up
and I am just me, which I think was maybe beneficial,
you know, because like my mindset was always like you
know what, like if people don't like me, then I
(40:07):
probably don't like them either, like end of sorry. If
they can see through like some of the bullshit and
like see to like who I truly am, then you know,
chances are yeah, maybe maybe they'll like me. But either way,
like I'm not living this life or you know, presenting
(40:27):
a different version of myself to America or the world,
like you get me as I am. But I think
that works for me. It doesn't work for everyone, Like
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
And like, I think the beauty about reality TV too
is like in the context of what you're talking about,
Like people get to see you in a very natural setting,
right because you're in a house, you're hanging out with
your friends, You're talking to people and communicating with them
the way you would communicate to anybody. Right Like, guys,
Lindsay's sitting here right here with me, you're the same
on the show as you are in person. And I think, yeah,
(40:58):
like like making friends with people in general, it's like
there's people that are going to like you, there's people
that are not gonna like you. But the people that
like you will always back you because Ye're like, no,
I know her. I've seen her vulnerable on the show,
Like I've seen her have real conversation totally. You know,
when it's either like you vibe with like what you're
putting out or you don't. And it's okay if you don't,
you know what I mean, because there's enough people that do.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
And I'm all right, like, you know, if someone's not
my kind of people, like, I'm okay with that, Like
I have enough friends.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, exactly, you have enough supporters, Okay. Well over the years,
I mean, you guys are filming your tenth season right now.
You know, you've dealt with a lot online. We talked
a little bit about Carl during the run. Let's talk
a little bit about what you guys went through and
kind of what that experience was like going through publicly,
you know, and ending an engagement.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, I mean, I can't really speak for him, but
for me personally, it was awful. That was a moment
that like created a lot of adult trauma for me.
I think, like, you know, I always thought that our
relationship it was such a slow build, Like we started
(42:07):
out as friends and we were best friends and we
tried to date. Season four didn't work out, Like he
was still partying and I was not in a place either.
But then you know, then he got sober. Then we tried,
you know, we started dating after filming season six, and
you know, we had been together for a year he proposed,
and then by the next year, like we had been
(42:28):
planning a wedding. So we were, you know, in total
together for two years. But we had formed such a bond,
in a friendship and a best friendship, so I always
felt like our relationship was beyond the show. And when
he made the decision to you know, basically break up
(42:51):
with me out, which was very blindsiding for me, but
like I did not see it coming. I had no
idea that, like, you know, he was even capable of
hurting a friend like that. So, yeah, that breakup and
then like as soon as it happened, thirty minutes later,
(43:14):
it was all over the internet, which means someone leaked
it and it was not me because I was still
trying to process what the hell just happened to me,
So yeah, it was it was like it was pretty bad.
It was one of the most humiliating moments of my life.
(43:34):
Like I I would have thought that he probably could
have like had a conversation with me in private to
at least give me a heads up of, like, you know,
just on a friend level, that he was going to
do this. And you know, when you realize someone has
that little respect for you just as a person, it's
(43:59):
just not a person that I really care to have
in my life. So but it was all for the better, right, Like,
look at where I'm at now, Like that was probably
the best decision that could have ever happened to me.
For me, it was already going to be a very long,
hard road ahead, just based off of you know, his
(44:20):
struggles within you know, you know, understanding his sobriety, and
I think, you know, no matter how much of a
support I was, I it was never enough for him.
And and that's okay, you know, we're not each other's people.
And I just don't even know if he even understands
(44:40):
me as a person in general. But I will say, like,
once I like rearranged and re reframed, you know, the
entire breakup in my head, I was able to you know,
put one foot in front of the other and just
start slowly like pushing my I sell forward and you know,
(45:02):
which then led me to my baby daddy and then
led me to my baby, which was always my ultimate goal.
And I feel like I was able to accomplish. I
bought a house in Nashville, which I don't think I
would have done if I was still inside of that relationship.
You know, I was able to like accomplish a lot
(45:25):
of like my personal goals and dreams and ambitions that
I was able to make come true.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
It is so crazy, like whenever I think about life,
like I sometimes think about all the different kind of
paths that you can take, and it is wild that
you know, when one door closes, another one really does open.
And yeah, like it led you to Gemma and now
you have family and yeah, but women are strong as hell.
And I think, seriously, the most impressive thing about you
is that you are able to go back on that show,
(45:54):
continue filming and just do your things.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I've always sort of been that way, right, Like, you know, sure,
I have accidentally caused drama for plenty of years. I've
fought with so many boyfriends. I step and shit a
lot wherever I go, which you know, causes a lot
of chaos. But ultimately, like you know, I'm just sort
(46:18):
of like in my own on my own path and
on my own journey, and like the whole world has
literally witnessed me growing up on national television.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
My entire thirties have been spent on Summer House. And
those are the years that we in New York are
finally growing up. Like, you know, a lot of people
in other areas grow up a lot faster than us here,
but our thirties is where we are just like trying
to learn how to be adults. And like the whole
world came along for every journey of mine. And I think,
(46:53):
you know, it's relatable, you know, because whatever I've gone through,
I've shared it with everyone.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, And there's a beautiful thing in that. And there's
so many people that relate to your story and have
been through similar experiences, you know. And I think that's
the cool thing about your position is like and you're
you know what you've been through is you're able to
connect with so many people that have gone through similar
experiences and you're you kind of are a figurehead of
letting them feel less alone. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
But and vice versa, Like people share with me so
much on Instagram, and you know, I love reading their
stories because it also makes me feel less alone, and
that's like a really fun and great community to be
a part of.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
What was it like announcing your pregnancy last season?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
So Carl was not there the night I announced it,
and that was by design by me, because it just
wasn't about him, you know, like this was my biggest
announcement of my entire life. I was like terrified. I
prepared this in this entire speech that went on for
forever because I just was like trying to memorize it
(48:01):
and you know, didn't want anyone to know what I
was actually going to say, and yeah, wound up going
on forever. But I yeah, I was like I was.
I was a ball of nerves before announcing it, but
because I knew, you know, based off of being scared
for something to leak, that as soon as I announced
(48:22):
it to my cast mates, I was going to have
to announce it to the world. So I had like
two different, like you know modes going of announcing and
I was just, yeah, I was. I had a lot
of anxiety and nerves, but it wound up being a
beautiful thing and it was very freeing, you know, like
when you get pregnant you're like first trimester, you have
(48:43):
to keep it private for so many reasons, or you
don't have to, but a lot of women do just
to make sure that they have a healthy pregnancy, that
you know they're gonna make it through the genetic screening,
you know, after twelve weeks. And I had a miscarriage before,
so I was terrified in my first trimester that like,
(49:04):
you know, is this going to be viable? Am I
going to have another miscarriage? And you know, I was scared.
So yeah, it was very freeing when I was when
I finally announced and I was able to like celebrate
publicly and openly, you know, this beautiful life that I
was creating.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Absolutely. What was it like filming the show while pregnant?
Was it?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I had so much fun? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:28):
It was your first sober season.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah yeah, and probably like it was probably time. But no,
I I had I had like a real I just
had a really good pregnancy. I was blessed with like
an easy pregnancy. I didn't get sickness or anything. And
I was in the sweet spot of like being in
my second trimester. I wasn't in my first. I wasn't
(49:52):
in my third where I'm like waddling everywhere and dying
of heat. But I was, Yeah, I was in the
sweet spot of being in the second trimester. I had
a lot of energy, and you, as a viewer, got
to like physically watch me growing, Like every week I
would come and like I was like a little bit bigger,
a little bit bigger. She had started kicking towards the
(50:14):
end of summer, so that was like fun and I
was able to share that experience with everyone in the house.
Like I it was never just me alone pregnant physically,
I was the only pregnant one, but I felt like
the whole house was like really, you know, celebrating with
me every little milestone of pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
December twenty twenty four, you welcome, Gemma. How has becoming
a mom changed your world?
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I went on a date the other day and I
like looked at the guy and I was like, you
you can ask me questions that you might be thinking,
because I've been through a lot over the last two years, right,
And he was like, how has been a mom changed you?
And I was like, wow, that is deep and that
is creative. So points for creativity, but you know what
(51:02):
it is, It's just such a different world. I think that,
like I have a very different lens in every decision
that I make. It's always putting jim a first, even
if that means I have to sacrifice like my comfort
or you know, my personal ones and needs. It's always about,
(51:23):
you know, making sure she has everything that she needs
and wants to to you know, be as happy and
healthy as she is. I think, you know, obviously I
I don't go out as much. I can't really leave
my house, Like I put my daughter to bed every
single night at six thirty seven, and you know, I'm
(51:44):
in the room next door watching Love Island. But yeah,
I don't know. I think that, like I'm a lot
more patient, not even just because of having a kid, right,
but I think just through the whole process, in every
step of the way, patient with myself as a new
(52:06):
mom and all of the physical, emotional and mental changes
I've gone through. But yeah, of course, like you know,
patient when you have like a baby. I think, yeah,
I don't know. And I just and I think that
I like I have this like softer, more emotional side
(52:28):
where I'm like very much easier to cry and celebrate
emotions that you know, I didn't I It's not not
that like I never cried, but like I definitely cry
a lot more and for all different reasons, whether it's
happiness or sadness or you know, just celebrating a friend.
(52:53):
So so yeah, it's interesting. But I think I think it'll,
like you know, continue to evolve as I continue to
you be a mom.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
What advice would you give to someone who feels like
they're starting over? Maybe career wise, relationship wise, or personally.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
I mean, how refreshing? Like you have to look at
it as like a refreshing moment that was much needed,
and like, you know, use it as like a springboard.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
I love the word refreshing. What's one boundary you have
set in work, life or love and friendships that's changed
your life?
Speaker 2 (53:28):
I yeah, one boundary. I guess I haven't really had
a lot of boundaries in life. I should probably have
more boundaries, have more boundaries. Okay.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
For anyone who's feeling stuck, what's one small thing that
they can do this week to move forward?
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Go on a run or exercise? Yeah, now you've inspired me.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
We're getting Lindsay back into her.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
No, you are, This journey starts now?
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah? Perfect? Okay, And lastly, what do you want Gemma
to take away from watching your journy when she watches
it back someday.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
I think how to be a strong independent woman, which
she is already a very strong independent baby, but you know,
just I want her to be like proud that like
I've done everything for myself. I've never been given anything
in life. I've worked my ass off, and you know
I want to be able to inspire her in that kind.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Of way you will.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, thank you, So this was fun.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
This was so fun. Thank you guys so much for
listening to today's conversation. I hope you loved it as
much as I did. If you guys are enjoying post
Run High, it would mean the world to me if
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